Transcript of Weenie of the Roundtable: Friday, February 20th, 2026

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Welcome back to The Toast, and happy, oh, that's right, Friday.

What time is What time is it?

Friday. It's our vacation.

What time is it? What time is it?

Time of our lives. School, sound, scream, shout. They didn't have to go so hard with that song.

Welcome back to The Tears. Every Friday feels like the beginning of summer, especially when It's beautiful. Especially when you're living in Florida. Because we have a little summer break this weekend. That's unbelievably beautiful. We're going to go to the beach, the pool.

Yes.

Dip, doc, dodge, dov, and dive. And dive. Yes, we are. I meant to say dive, but We're also going to dip, duck, dodge, dive, and dive.

Now, usually we ease into the weekend, but I feel like we have a lot to do today on the episode front. We do. Real House is in Beverly Hills. Did you watch?

Of course. Traitors. No, I forgot. Kidding.

You got me. She's a traitor. We got another throw away boat. Oh, my God. Last night's episode was actually an exercise in how to be a loser. It was insane.

We were so close.

Oh, my God. We were so close.

We were so close to vindication and everything that we are with the worst players left. And admittedly so, they'll all say they're the worst, even though they all say Natalie's so smart or whatever. Great.

Stop Natalie's speech made me cry.

No, they're disgusting.

I fucking hate these people. Let's save all the spoilers for the TV recap. Along with Real House Size and Beverly Hills, we also have Queenie and Weanie. And then we also just have two fabulous gals being fabulous.

Talking about pop culture.

Yes, that is what we do for a living.

Talking about themselves.

Yeah, today's a big day. I mean, it is what, the 20th, right? Yes. I wanted to have this little speech on the 21st, but it's a Saturday. Ruby is turning nine months.

On the 21st.

Nine months in, nine months out. Even though it's like 10 months, I will be making a speech regardless. Oh, wow. Where has the time gone?

I think of that Harry just turned four, and I was like, It's Harry's birthday.

I'm sorry. Nine months is bigger than four. Do you agree? Nine months is like, it's basically the same as a year.

Yes. I'm not here to continue.

Oh, my God. I'm We're going to try not to cry. I was crying last night, nine months in, nine months out. I just wanted to use this moment as a marker, the selfless queen that I am for others. If you find yourself pregnant right now and freaking or wondering, Should I? Is this life for me? Let me tell you, it's for you. If you're worried, you should only be worried that your life has sucked so much until this point. Okay? Oh, my God. It's the most amazing thing. Yes, life is different, of course. Are we out shaking our titties on yachts? No. It so doesn't matter, you guys. It's the best, most amazing thing ever. Your life begins now. And of course, if this life is not for you, your life is great, too. I feel like the childless people and then the childful people are always combating with one. I don't give a fuck. That's not what I'm talking about.

This is a statement. You're not here to knock anyone. You're just here to uplift people who might be on the fence.

On TikTok, child free women and childful women are always battling one another. And I'm like, Girl, they always think the other is talking about them. I'm not talking about you, and you're not talking about me. We're good. So sorry. Anyway, I just had to uncancel myself.

You're talking to people who are on the fence and also people who are nervous who expect that one day they're going to have kids, but you're always just like, Am I ready? I don't feel ready.

Of course, I loved my life so much. It was a very hard decision for me. I always knew I wanted to have kids.

Everyone has been watching you on the show for seven years. You've been married the entire time that you were on the toast, and you just didn't feel ready.

I didn't feel ready, and I was really going to miss my life. I had this amazing life. I got to do whatever I wanted. I had a lot of disposable income that I could just do whatever I wanted with. There was no one to tell me no. And while that was amazing, of Of course, and can't wait to get back there one day, this 32. 0 is just the best thing in the whole world. Maybe someone out there needed to hear that. So I just wanted to say- Just a little encouragement. Nine months in, nine months out.

Are you going to post a nine months in?

No, because I don't have any pictures.

From nine months in? Yeah. And from nine months out.

Yeah, like, no.

Well, you could do something from the toast, a clip of you on the toast nine months in. That's the thing. It's like, sometimes I feel like I don't capture enough.

Can we make an edit for me? Yeah. Of turdy- Is it like a Taylor Swift song or something?

Yeah. Sometimes I feel like I don't capture enough content. I'm like, I actually capture content like hours long every single week.

Oh, that, of course. But I thought you were talking about the struggle of being people who don't share their kids on Instagram.

Oh, that's a different struggle. But no, I'm like, actually, what do you mean? I just made an hour long video.

We have clips. I know.

We are two of the funniest people, and I know us offline.

When I tell you, there are two more caring, charitable, generous people.

Yeah. Mazel tov to you.

Thank you so much. And Mazel tov to you as well.

Thank you. Four is a big deal. It's also just four years of me being a mom. Not only having a four-year-old, but I've been doing it.

It's important to center yourself on your kid's milestones because it's also about you.

No, but Only just for Harry. When Charlie has a birthday, it's not like I was a mom for two years. I guess then I'll have been a mom of two for three years. But I've been doing it for years, and shout out to me.

Shout to us.

What's that speech? Shout out to me. I want to thank me.

Yeah, do it.

Someone will know the reference. It evades me.

What else? I watched so much TV last night.

Yeah, I was doing my homework last night. We played Maj yesterday.

We did play Maj yesterday.

I didn't know if you wanted to talk about it.

Because I didn't win, and Jackie won so many times.

I just slayed Maj. Maybe my brain is coming back. Maybe that's what's happening. Probably not. I think I just had a good day.

Listen, some days you have it and some days you don't.

Yeah, I'm so excited to Maj with my wits about me. I can't even tell you. I'm scared. And when I'm not sweating the whole time.

Okay, but just, I wasn't breastfeeding. I was sweating the whole time yesterday, too.

Maj is a sweaty game.

It's a lot of brain activity, and I think that burns calories. And stress.

And stress. And it's a lot. Your body's working over time.

Except the Maj snacking needs to stop. It's insane how much we snack. Yeah. I sat down with a bowl of Nonpareils. That's fucking crazy.

Yeah. For me, that's my sweet treat, and I'm unlimited in what I can take down. But the good thing about when I Maj, after I'm done breastfeeding is I'll have my wits, but I won't be snacking. I won't have that. I'll be hitting the fruit. You know? Yucky. Maybe a couple of celery sticks.

I hate to be that girl, but we have so much to do today.

And all the stories. The stories are not ground baking, but interesting.

Not ground baking. Okay.

You know what I mean? Yeah. They Are just interesting little bits and bobs of what the peeps are up to.

Speaking of a conversation- That would be a great title.

Do you think people would want to listen to that episode? It's a little long. Interesting little bits and bobs of what the peeps are up to.

How about just bits and bobs?

Is that click baity enough? Oh, my God. We saw something yesterday. It was like one of our titles from I don't even know when someone wrote it out. Couch potatoes deserve love, too.

Okay, title today. Couch potatoes deserve love, too. Part two. And I think I know what we were I'm referring to Kevin Fetterline. I'm sorry. They're not two more funny or charitable individuals.

When I saw that, I was like, We titled something that? That's hysterical stuff.

Our titles are insane.

Yeah, we get very... Not to zoom out. Yeah, let's zoom. It's a Friday. It's just like when we do this show, we just get very in the weeds with it, and it's funny to see it at a glance sometimes.

But I'm glad we chose that title because it was clearly such an impactful conversation. I knew what we were talking about even today.

It really summed up, and I think it was about His memoirs.

Yeah, he gets a really bad rap. At the end of the day, yes, he's a couch potato who just lives off of Brittany's child support, but he did raise those kids. Yeah. Just as a couch potato.

Memoirs of a feather line.

He's an inspiration to me.

That's goals for you?

To be a successful parent who's also a full-time couch potato.

And who's getting money.

Yeah. Passive income.

But wherever it's coming from. I love that. Goals for women everywhere. Kevin Fetter line.

Inspiration. Businessman of the Week.

Oh, my God. Next week, we're going to have to anoint another businessman. No.

What we had said was that, let's not hold ourselves to having to have a businessman every week because then the segment will become annoying and monotonous. When a businessman impresses us, he will replace his fellow, I have a businessman of the week. I actually do. Who? Okay. I forgot his name.

I know his job. So he's definitely a businessman of the week. I wonder who it is. It's Axel Dumas. Who the hell is that?

Okay, you're going to love this. He's the CEO of Air Maze. Okay. Which, of course,.

Oh, yeah. That's a great way to become.

But he's one of the very few people who was named several, several times in the Epstein files and is coming out looking like a hero. Epstein, for a couple of years long period, became obsessed with meeting him. He was at a play or something, and he very quickly met him. And then he starts emailing everyone he knows, Woody and Sunye. Lex, of course, being like, I need to meet with Axel Dumas. There are a million emails of him emailing his assistant, telling his assistant what to say to Axel's assistant. They get Axel's assistance information from Woody and Sunye. The assistant, it's clearly so meticulously written. He keeps avoiding him, does not want to be seen with him, does not agree to meet with him multiple times over years long, literally from 2010 to 2014. He recently gave an interview saying he believes that Epstein was targeting him for something, and he He knew that he was a bad guy and just said no.

Oh, wow. Did you see the same as true for Joe Rogan? No. Joe Rogan is in. His name came up because Epstein wanted to meet him. And one of the guests that Joe had on his show was trying to broker was going to make the intro, and Joe was like, I don't want to meet him. I googled him and I was like, no. Yucky. Yeah.

It's so crazy how there's so few people who did it. Axel Dumont, CEO of Hermès. Now I feel good spending all that money.

Oh, let's go I'm looking at Birkins.

If only they would let us. Or perhaps the businessman of the week could send us, too.

I'm looking. I think I'm ready for a Mini Kelly. I'm ready for...

Seriously, I'm not.

No, no, no. But if you're like, what would these girls like? I've just been introduced to them. I don't know them. Yeah.

I actually... I haven't been to Kelly. I would like a Kelly 25.

We should do it.

You do? Yeah. Okay. Color, I'm open for sure. I'm thinking gold hardware.

They're so annoying.

Yeah. Let's get a printed picture of Axel Dumas, and we'll keep him in the frame until he sends us Perkins.

Okay, you guys. Without further a do, do, do, do, here are the fast five stories that you, to do, need to know.

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Our first story is some sad news. Very, very sad news. Eric Dane, star of Grey's Anatomy and Euphoria, has died at the age of 53, nearly one year after announcing his ALS diagnosis.

This is so sad.

So sad. Eric Dane, a K, McSteemy.

I don't know him from that. What do you know him from? I know him from Euphoria.

But he definitely has other smaller projects.

No, and Euphoria was a much later thing for him.

Yeah, but he's such a familiar face.

Let's do our- I feel like he was in a walk to remember or something.

Let's do our favorite activity.

I am be.

And honor his body of work, shall we? I love that. Marley and Me. Oh, so good. So Valentine's Day. Everyone was in that, though.

Yeah, it's embarrassing if you weren't. Yeah.

What else? I don't know these movies, but I'm so familiar with him.

Yeah. He's just one of those people that- I guess it's really Grey's Anatomy.

I'm sorry, we're discussing Burlesque.

Oh, of course. Marshall. E. His name is Marshall, right? E. X.

P-r-e-s-s.

Love. Such a good movie.

Left such a Madeleine-women mark.

Made better by Eric Dane's performance as like the And teaching us about air rights. Okay, raise your hand if you only know what air rights are because of the movie Burlesque and Eric Dane's Body of Work.

Me. Me.

Q-racked. I was literally talking about air rights the other day. They're very important. Especially in the city when you buy apartments or you rent apartments for views, well, it's like, what are the air rights? Could a big tower go right in front of my apartment?

I feel like you can't get air rights in New York City.

They're pre-established.

Because everyone's just building everywhere. But look out for air rights. Thank you, Eric Dane. Also, euphoria. Grey's Anatomy, I think, is the biggest one. I think at one point in my life, I watched Grey's Anatomy because I'm like, I know McSteemy and McDreamy. I feel like I gave it a shot. You don't ever feel like that?

No, I know for a fact, and it's something I'm proud of. I've never seen one minute of that show. Not even a clip. Like, nothing.

Nothing? Oh, I get a lot of clips now. Oh, sorry.

I've seen a clip.

Do you get those clips? I get a lot of medical show clips where someone comes in. For diagnosis. It's like a four minute clip and I have to watch the whole thing.

Yeah, of course. I didn't realize that trend finally made its way to real.

Oh, no, no. It's been happening for a while, and I was losing a lot of time watching movies quickly on Instagram.

That's why I started watching Young Sheldon. From clips? Because I was getting full episodes in three separate clips. And I was like, You know what? The show looks good. Interesting. Yeah, it inspires. And I'm sorry, I have seen a clip from Grey's Anatomy. There's a famous episode where they weirdly decide to make it a musical. They've done so many episodes. You just have to keep doing stuff. And Che, Sarah Ramirez, Che from And Just Like That, someone's dying in the hospital, and she starts singing to them, All of these lines across my face. Don't ask me why I know that. I've I've never seen the show. I don't know if she's a regular, or she's just made a cameo, but all those lines across her face.

I love that. And he was married to Rebecca Gayheart, yeah? I don't know who that is. You don't? No. Yes, you do.

That's so sad. I saw a picture of his family. He has two beautiful daughters, but I didn't recognize his wife.

You would know her. She's a famous actress, and they are still married. She's in Jawbreaker.

Oh, who does she play? She plays one of them girls. I killed Liz. I killed the teen dream. Deal with it. This is on the left?

Mm-hmm. She was like a sidekick. She was like one of the girls. The three, yeah.

I Killed Liz. I Killed... That movie was so fucking crazy.

Yeah, it was. And very good.

So good.

Yeah.

That was a genre of film we watched when we were kids, that we were a little too young to be watching. They were old school. Why were we watching so many times, Don't Tell Mom, the Babysitter's Dead? That was a movie from 10 years before we were born. I'm right on top of that, Rose.

So good.

So good. I killed Liz. I killed the teen dream. Deal with it. She was so crazy for that. Who played the main girl? The killer. Rose. Yes. Rose. Rose. It's her name. Me too, Rose. No, not Roseburn. What's her name?

I could look it up again. Hold on.

Well, that's so crazy that that's her. Like, she shaved her head.

Rose McGowan.

Rose McGowan, yes. I killed Liz. I killed The Teen Dream. Deal with that.

Julie Greer is in it.

Judy Greer. I love Julie, too.

That's her sister.

What the fuck isn't Greer in? She's a queen. She's Lucy Greer now.

Oh, she's Lucy Wyman now.

Like, seriously so sad about Eric.

Yes, very, very sad.

Als is so sad.

It is. And he came out with his diagnosis 10 months ago, so it's been 10 months since I mean, we don't know how long he's been suffering.

Is he in the upcoming season of Euphoria?

So they're filming it currently?

No, I think it's done because we saw a trailer.

I have no idea. You're the Euphoria spokesperson. You covered the Euphoria beat.

I I literally cover the Euphoria beat. Yeah.

Like, you're on the ground euphoria reporter.

Okay. Is Eric Dane in euphoria Season 3?

It's only going to be season 3 of the show that everyone- Yes.

He filmed a few episodes of the upcoming season 3.

And whose dad does he play?

Nate. He's very toxic masculinity. Spoiler alert. He's also gay.

Jacob Balorty?

His dad. Oh, oh. So he's like, You got to be good at sports and fuck a lot of girls. And he's over here like, you know.

Is he in the closet?

Yeah, of course. But they found out at the end.

Oh, okay. But he's not living his life as a gay. I haven't watched the show, so you're saying to me he's gay.

No, he has a wife and a family at home, and he just cruises at night. Got it. Okay. With someone like the local teens.

Got it. Very inappropriate. That is inappropriate. Well, speaking of Jacob Alorty, our next story is about Jacob Alorty because he's allegedly been offered the role of James Bond in Dennis Villeneuve's Bond 26. So a big question in pop culture, who's the next Carrie Who's the next James Bond? Why are we always talking about who's the next Carrie Underwood? Don't you feel like she's not dead?

She's not dead. Always talking about who's the next Carrie Underwood.

She's not dead.

When we talk about... It's literally like Nashville, like rising stars in country. I guess we sometimes say who's the next Taylor Swift.

I guess. I feel like as a society, we all do that.

No, it's just us.

Okay. I was just trying to force the blame.

No, it's us.

We're the problem. But everyone else is always asking who's the next James Bond.

And they never tell us. But I thought I thought you chose Aaron.

Yeah, the guy with the older wife.

With the 50-year-old wife. I thought they chose him. Yeah, I think they did, too. But maybe there's a rival Bond because you said it's like, gear- It's called Bond 26.

But yeah, as speculation continues over who will succeed Daniel Craig as 007. What about Aaron? Oh, several actors have been linked to the role, including Aaron Taylor Johnson, Tom Holland. Oh, but that wasn't confirmed.

I'm sorry, not to be mean, but Tom Holland cannot be James Bond. I'm sorry, you can't be everything.

No, but they just need other names to fluff up the story.

They're doing Jeopardy.

They're doing Jeopardy.

Now, we need to come up with a verb that me... What Jeopardy did with their host, we were so excited to see after Alex Trebek died, who would pass the torch. They waited so long. They tried so many people. It's low key what Jenna and friends did. They did it too long. Now with Bond, where we all stopped caring. There was a time when we cared so much who was hosting Jeopardy, who was replacing Hoda, who was going to be Bond. Now, so many rumors, so many stories, years and years, I actually don't care anymore. I don't think whoever is going to be Bond next. It's like, Bond is over.

I'm in shock that Aaron Taylor Johnson didn't come out with the Bond movie. I thought the movie came out. Right. Now it's the Bond after Johnson.

No, it's the Bond after Craig.

Daniel Craig, which is literally so long ago.

It's so long ago. And them making bonds with Daniel Craig while he was seriously on life alert, they handled the whole thing poorly.

So what do you think about Jacob Alorty as the next James Bond?

Well, they got me. I actually like an obvious choice. Like, yeah.

Is he British?

Yeah, Australian.

Okay, so he has an accent.

Oh, yeah, sorry. Americans can't do it, even though Miles Teller's grandma said he could.

Remember that? Well, if he said it, if she said it.

When people were talking about Miles Teller, maybe it's one of my favorite toast clips we have to post in. It's from five years ago. When Miles Teller was like, his name was being thrown around, back when we were talking about Bond again, literally five years ago, people were talking about Miles Teller, and a lot people were like, he can't. He can't do it because he's American. And his grandma took to Twitter being like, well, he could talk like British. And it's like, well, yeah, he's an actor. Yeah.

I would support Miles Teller as Bond One thing about me, I support Miles Teller, period. Jacob Alorty. Sure. I mean, we could be good for Olivia. I do feel like even though Jacob- They're not together.

They're not? No. I like, so I'm going to be spotted with another girl, twice. The same girl, twice.

I feel like even though Jacob has a couple- And Olivia moved to New York City. Big projects under his belt. Like, he's now Wuthering Heights, Frankenstein. I just feel like his role, he's still up in the air.

It's a little stifling. It's a full-time thing. I'm sure Daniel Craig did other projects, but nothing impressive or remarkable. I saw him in a play that was so horrible.

He did Knives Out.

That was after Bond. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? In between Bond. You are Bond. It's your whole thing. You don't do stuff outside of it.

I think anyone would jump at the chance just be Bond. That's all you're going to be.

You don't win Oscars or anything. So I feel like Jacob Lourdi is on the Oscar track.

Oh, fine.

It's a very commercial. It's very Tom Cruise.

I don't know. I'm worried about Jacob Lourdi. I just feel like he doesn't have staying power. I can't expect him.

Oh, you're worried about him? Yeah. Well, maybe you should see Wuthering Heights because there's a lot of Oscar buzz saying this is his moment.

Oh, really? I guess I haven't seen him in anything since The Kissing Booth. So maybe that's why I'm worried. I'm like, what is he going to do next?

If he didn't get nominated for an Oscar from The Kissing Booth, he has no hope to ever because that was the greatest acting performance of all time, especially in the movie, too. We had to act like he didn't fucking hate Joey King after they broke up. The way that The Kissing Booth was the best movie I'd ever seen is crazy. Second to all the boys I loved before.

That one was better. Well, you saw it before to all the boys. And then after to all the boys, everyone was like, Kissy Mouth is stuck. And it's like, why can't they just both have been good?

The Kissing Booth started this insane genre on Netflix where they had to beat it dead for two years of young adult, sometimes adapted from books, but not always.

Always starring Jacob Alordi or Noah Centenario. Noah Centenario.

And the paths that they both took are so different. I remember the one where he blinddates the girl.

Sierra Burgess.

Yeah. Sierra Burgess is the loser.

What about Tall Girl? Remember that one?

No. Where Sierra Burgess was tall?

It was about a Tall Girl. I think that was the name of the movie. Okay. Tall Girl. You saw it.

That was such a crazy time. Do you remember Peter Kaminski?

Yeah, look, it's called... Sabrina's in it. She was a little friend. Yeah.

I miss Sabrina's acting era. Yeah.

I know. Well, she's going to be Alice in Wonderland.

Actually, is that confirmed? Yeah. I thought it was like fan.

No, I think it's pretty confirmed. You don't remember Tall Girl?

No, I must have missed that. She was very tall. Oh, actually, I'm sorry. Of course, I remember Tall Girl. It just hit me like a truck.

I just want to say, in hindsight, I'm sure we all were like, I'm going to watch Tall Girl. In hindsight, that's an insane name for her movie.

I know because it's just her only thing was that she was tall.

And it's an insane concept. And it's like, okay, we've made YA movies. Now let's make it tall. No, no.

And they were really inclusive. It was a lot of representation. I remember the Korean community was obsessed with all the boys I love before. Their cuisine was put on. Everyone was talking about how amazing their snacks were. Remember those yogurts were selling out at H-Marks across the country. And so it's like, then they had to do tall. It was crazy.

It was a crazy time. I do think it slowed down.

I loved it. Oh, yeah. They don't make movies like that anymore. But I just want to say I loved that time. I loved those movies. There was It was like almost 30 watching them.

There was just a rush to make them.

Yes, yes. It was like an avalanche. They all are mixed up in my mind, except for Kissing Booth and to All The Boys I Love before.

And like Prom. Remember, or F the Prom?

No.

I feel like I saw more of them than you did.

Was it Madely and Petch? It's your genre. It's your genre, like bad movies.

It's my favorite. Oh, what was the one? Maybe it was Prom. No, there was another one. She's all that? No, no, no, no, no, We found it to be a little anti-Semitic.

Oh, of course. Where the villain was wearing...

Of course, we did. Cami Mendez, he went to a private school in Miami.

Yeah, Sophie Turner was in it, right?

Wait, hold on. Let me look at Cami Mendez's body.

And Sophie Turner. And the villain was this rich kid who was always wearing a Star of David necklace. It was anti-Semitic, for sure.

Oh, Do Revenge. With Maya Hawke.

Oh, yeah. Maya Hawk.

Yeah. Cammi Mendez was in a lot of these, too. A dream roll. Yeah. The Perfect Date. I think I was with Noah Centenario.

There were so many Noah Centenario ones.

Oh, my God.

That was so funny.

That was funny. Are you ready for our next story? That's actually adjacent to what we're discussing.

Okay.

A new book adaptation has been cast. Emily's Henry's Beach Read will star-Oh, enough with Emily fucking Henry. Will star B. B. Denver. Whatever. You didn't read Beachread. I did.

Which one was that? I read a lot of them.

They were on a beach in Michigan, and there were neighbors. She went back to her home and she fixed it up.

Why wouldn't I have read Beatrice? I read Happy People.

Beatrice was the first that made Emily Henry really popular. So then you read what came out next that was really buzzy. People We Meet On Vacation is where you started with her.

Yeah, maybe. I could check my good reads. Actually, you know what I will? What was it called?

Beatrice. You didn't read I know you didn't. Really? How do you know? Because I'm always like, I liked Beach reading or like, I didn't read it.

Really? I feel like I hated it.

I actually liked it. I remember chuckling a couple times. It's like totally cute.

No, I didn't read it.

Rom-com.

I've just had enough of Emily Henry. Somebody lied to everyone. I don't know why everyone's been brainwashed into thinking any of these books are good. I actually like the people we meet on vacation movie.

So that bodes well for Beach read movie.

Okay, so Phoebe Denevour, and then who's the romantic lead?

We don't know yet, but how do you feel about Phoebe Denver?

Why are you saying her name like that?

I'm trying the different ways. There's a lot of letters in her last name. Denevour?

How do you spell it?

Dyniver. D-y-y-n-e-v-o-r.

Dyniver.

Denver.

Diamond of the season. She fell off, don't you feel? We always talk about how like, Roger Jean Paul fell off because he left that show to pursue other things. Well, really, she stayed, and it didn't really do much for her.

Maybe there's a Bridgerton curse.

Yeah, I feel that. Same with Game of Thrones? No. The second season, the lead, her name was Kate, or is her name Kate in real life? A very beautiful girl. She also went nowhere.

Simone Ashley. The Viscount who loved me? Simone Ashley. Is that the Viscount who loved me?

But Jonathan Bailey. But he was famous before.

But Jonathan Bailey.

He was famous before. He had a huge theater career. Was he? Yeah, he was. You'll be happy to be there, dancing through life down at the Oz dust. If only because dust is why we come to. Nothing matters but knowing nothing matters. Dancing through life. Literally the best scene in that first movie. Yeah.

When he was like, Ticken- And he was listening to the soundtrack again.

I I always listen to dancing. Oh my God. When he was like, twinkled toes on that wood plank, I literally... That was the happiest I've ever been since Be Our Gast in Beauty and the Beast.

Also for this movie, it's the same director, so they're copy pasting People We Meet on Vacation.

Okay, you know what? I think it's good. People We Meet on vacation was hella cute.

Yeah. I think just like we were in... We used to be in the YA romance movie hole. I think right now we're in the YA book adaptation hole.

That's fine. Can we just choose some other authors? There are so many good books out there. Yeah. Like, Megan Quinn. Somebody adapt a Megan Quinn book, if you care.

What's Megan Quinn?

She's like, Smut Queen. Everybody thinks Tessa Bailey. No.

And where does it happen one summer? Where's our movie?

Where are all the books that got adapted? I don't know. And why do particular ones make it to the finish line when others don't?

I don't know.

I wish I understood how this worked more. Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story? It's some more content news. Okay. Chelsea Handler is going to develop a Hulu Comedy Series about a washed-up reality star. So Hulu is developing a comedy series from Zoe Young that has Chelsea Handler attached to executive produce and potentially star. The potential series is called Townhouse. Per the official logline, the show follows a washed-up reality star and her live-in entourage of misfits as they scramble to rehab her image and reboot her career. When her estranged daughter unexpectedly moves into their crumbling Manhattan townhouse, the TV husband is confronted with the one role she spent her entire life avoiding, Motherhood.

Now, I've got five words for you. Cut Sonia Morgan, her check. Clearly inspired by her life story. Don't you think? The townhouse? Come on.

I guess just the town.

Reality Star, Washed up, band of misfits, all of her interns. Yeah. Like, Which is so Sonia Morgan coded.

Oh, I guess.

You don't think so?

No, because she became a reality star in the townhouse. Okay, it's not a perfect- No, but I don't... No, because I just don't... No, it doesn't feel that way to me.

But if you- Because you always don't support my calls. That's why.

No, but sometimes when your call scratches the itch, I'll let you know. Sure.

Because I support your calls and you don't support mine.

Do you want blind support for your calls?

No, I just think you don't see me. I know we had this conversation already. You just don't see me. That's why you don't see my calls. But I see you from the inside out and everything you say I agree with because I see you.

So why don't you agree that that call is not good? That what? That that call is not good.

Because the call is coming from inside the house. Bitch.

This sounds cute.

Yeah, cute. Like, throw back to Chelsea handler. I forgot. But no, she doesn't act. Does she? No. She's like a commentator. So this would be her for acting.

This reminds me of, sorry. You know what? It reminds me of that show that you loved with the brothers.

Let me The show that I... Oh, with the siblings, the other two. Yeah. Five words. Bring back the other two. Did you ever watch it?

Yeah, I watched some of it.

Fucking hysterical.

Yeah.

That was such a weird... I know they had an investigation, Toxic Workplace. Seriously, I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck.

Is that what happened?

Yeah, it ended so abrupt. It wasn't the biggest show ever on HBO, but it was pretty big and it had a really insane following. It seems so random because it was gaining a lot of momentum. That's also why. The first season was good, and then the second season was really... And so a show with so much momentum, like why you would nip it in the bud? They have so much crap on HBO. And then there was a report that there was an investigation into the showrunner and show was a toxic workplace and yada, yada, harassment. One of the other.

But does it not remind you of this a little bit? The vibe?

Kind of. Just because it's what? About the industry?

Yeah, and like, you know-I love shows that are not the industry. Outkast, downtrodden, industry discards.

Yeah, well, the... Yeah, industry discards. I love that. I I love shows about the industry, like Entourage, obviously. Hacks. Hacks, that's a little bit more satirical. I love shows about the industry.

You should watch Industry.

No, because that's about a different industry, like finance.

What industry? Are you sure?

Yeah. I watched the first episode of Industry. I told you, I also got confused because I thought it was the first episode of... What's the Apple one with Adam that everybody loves?

Oh, In the Boxes.

Yes, In the Boxes. No, I watched the first episode of Severance. No, no, sorry. I watched the first episode of Industry, and then I went on the podcast and told everyone, did I watch the first episode of Severance? And they were like, Are you sure you watch the show? I'm like, Yeah. The guy was doing drugs. Industry was a show that made me never want to watch TV ever again. It was so pit-inducing in the worst way.

Yeah, I feel like they love a strong drama with a strong title, succession.

Yeah.

Industry.

Severance. A one word of a Where do you have to Google.

They're literally making shows on thesaurus. Com. They're like coming up with the name and then making a show around it.

The show around it. I love that. What's the story? Oh, yeah. Townhouse.

Some exciting content. So very content-heavy day. A lot of upcoming excitement.

I can't wait for half of these things to never air. We're still waiting on Legally Blonde 3 written by Mindy Kayling. Right.

It's supposed to be coming two summers ago.

We have a list of things we're waiting for. We were waiting for Confessions of a Female founder. It came and went.

Let me search Lemonada. That's usually how I can find the things we're waiting for.

We're always waiting for It Happened One Summer Book Adaptation. Oh, I saw a commercial yesterday for Regretting You, Colleen Hoover Adaptation. I like how that one's not really being promoted. I guess she's scarred. It looked really turnt. It's giving lifetime smut. She goes to jail, loses custody of her daughter, and then moves back to the town to be near the daughter and her father, and of course, her and the father ended up being on.

I just searched this on my phone. It's such a worm hole. I can't. I saw perfect casting Juanita Solis.

It wasn't perfect casting. Where did they find her? Oh, Demi Lovato's sister.

No, but it's like, it just goes so deep.

And I feel like when we're having the conversation about nepotism, we often do not talk about how important of a thing it is because it gave us one Eita Solis.

When done right, Chef's Kiss because, you know...

Not anybody could have played that character.

Some of these traits are genetic.

Right.

So when done right, I support it. It's not all bad all the time, only when it comes to Ben Platt.

Do you see Ben Platt is jacked? He's been gone for a while, and then his husband posted a picture of him in the gym. He's enormous now.

We got to have to go look. Actually, Ben Platt isn't all bad all the time because he is talented.

No, that's the unfortunate thing about being Ben Platt's number one fucking hater, is that you have to acknowledge that not only is he probably one of the most talented vocalists of our time, but his debut album, they don't make music like that. In case you don't live forever, let me Let me tell you now. I love you more than you'll ever wrap your head around. In case you don't live forever, let me tell you the truth. I'm everything that I am because of you. Isn't that about his parents?

So thank you so much for bringing that up. Who just walks all over.

I think they're estranged now, right? Yeah. I'm so curious about the Platt family dynamics because they're all low-key famous in their own circles. Like, Jona Platt is probably one of the most... We were at like a... We were playing with a bunch of Jewish girls. Like, Do you follow Jona Platt? He's our hero. He's like a Theodore Herzl of our time. We're obsessed with him. Every Jewish girl is obsessed with Jona Platt. Mark Platt is one of the biggest producers. If you're in production, you know him. And then there was the drama with Rachel Zegler. And then, of course, Ben Platt. So they all operate in three different universes, but I just know they all fucking hate each other.

Yeah, but then he writes that song.

I don't know how Joda Platt doesn't hate Ben Platt.

Might have been before he was radicalized and he loved his parents and he loved his heritage and before he lost all of that.

It's the same with Alex Edelman. You know he hates his brother.

Who's his brother?

He's an Israeli Olympian.

Oh, is not Julian Edelman?

He's not Julian Edelman, no. They're just like...

And he's a comedian, Alex Edelman? Yes.

Who's dating Anna Kendrick. Right. Yeah. It's all coming back to you now. I just know he hates his brother, and I know his brother thinks he's a low life, like a Hollywood. I have the feeling. He's a brother. I wonder if Ben Platt and Alex Edelman get together and talk about their brothers who they find embarrassing.

Their shared interests. Their Zionist brothers. Yeah, right. Our fifth and final story is going to lead into Trader's Recap. Oh, okay.

So our Trader's Recap, our TV recap, and just all things about good television.

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Okay, so let's talk about the documentary that really everyone's talking about. If you were alive between 2003 and 2012, this show was unavoidable. And if you were just swirly, if you're listening to this show, you were definitely raised by America's Next Top Model. It was appointment television, sleepover culture, screaming at your TV while Tyra was screaming at someone. We learned smizing. I don't know if people know the origins of smizing.

Can I see yours? Your best one?

It's actually very hard, but yeah.

But look at me. I I love it.

Do? I don't think that was so good.

That's so rude. See, you don't support my calls. You don't support my-Yeah, no, I'm just taking after you. My attempt said smizing.

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And That's why the new documentary is so fascinating, why so many people are talking about it. We're getting a full behind the curtain look at the hit show that shaped a generation, not just from fans or commentators, but from the people who were actually there, the judges, Tyra. Tyra Banks, Jay Manuel, Nigel Barker. These names. Oh, my God. When we were in high school, we We got Nigel Barker at a restaurant, right? Yeah. We got Mr. Chou for someone's birthday, and we have a picture with him.

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Lisa Rinna has been spilling some tea about the reunion. She had said last week, I saw a quote from her that she had said that it all goes down pretty much like justice is served.

I heard that Colton walks off and somebody brings up the stalker.

She clarified the rumor that Colton stormed out of the reunion. She said, well, this is what she said. That wasn't how she understood it. She said, I didn't see it myself. I saw him leave, but I saw other people leave, too, to go to the bathroom and such. But it took a long time for people to come back. That I can share with you. But let's put it on the record because they probably won't air it, right? I said, Colton, I have a question for you. What did you mean when you said, I'm going to take her hostage? I'm dying.

Lisa is so funny. She read tweets and did research. And you know what? I appreciate that.

That's all I said, and that spun him out that she said.

Okay, obsessed. It's just reminding me of how many interesting people were on the show.

How good the show used to be.

I was watching so passively, even though I had low expectations for the episode, just because quite literally, not one person there do I care about. I don't even know who I'm rooting for anymore. I'm rooting for Mark Ballas. I don't even know who the fuck I'm rooting for.

No, I think Mark Ballas is actually like... Well, he did say- No, I'm sorry.

The worst one. Say it with me. Three.

Wait, hold on. Oh. Three. Well, the worst faithful or the worst- The worst person on the show right now.

Three, two, one. Tara. I'm sorry. What Tara did last It was so awful.

But she was so close. I'm not not rooting for her and Johnny.

But at one point, I understand you don't want to get off the show because more episodes is good. So you're afraid to say something. But at this point, there's one or two more episodes left. Why is she so afraid to take even the smallest of risks?

I think she was afraid to get it wrong and be the leader of the charge. No one wants the responsibility of making the choices and being the one that got it wrong. I think last week when she did it to Steven, she did not like how it felt. And so even though all day, and I think Tara is a sweet person, so I am giving her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't leave Natalie out to dry just because. But I think all day, she's really playing the game, theorizing whatever. But when it comes to actually making accusations and pointing fingers at the table, she doesn't want to be the one to do that.

She's also not good at it. I'm sorry. When we talk about the biggest weanies, it also cannot be understated Maura. I mean, if Maura isn't such a stereotype, how little it takes for you to blindly... She wouldn't even consider the conversation and then ran back and told him. I mean, it's so like, she's such a loser.

And also at this point, you need to just look at who's left. And when Natalie keeps saying, Why am I still here? Who's keeping me around? It's because you do want voices of people who support you because always vote for you. Rob knows he can count on Maura's vote, he can count on Mark's vote. He, up until this week, could count on Natalie's vote. And so when they're accusing Natalie of sending home gamers because that would throw us all off. No, if she were a traitor, you need those voices of support because the deck is stacked when you have people who believe you and who want to go with you. Just like if Johnny was a traitor, Tara would always go with him. So their logic was so off. They don't know which road to walk down, and they refuse to really look into why Candice was throwing out Rob's name. So I was glad to see that Mark was like, Yeah, that was a red flag for me, But Mark is probably the least intuitive one there because at least Tara had the thought of Rob and brought Rob to the table. I think Johnny said at this point, I think it's Rob and Eric.

I could see being Rob. At least someone's close.

I know, but they guess everyone. And now there's so few people left. I'm not even finding it impressive that somebody said Rob.

It must be really weird to be in a room where everyone's trying to figure out who the traitor is, and you know that one two are among you and you actually can't trust anyone that you're talking to. I imagine it really is a mindfuck at this point. Plus, they're in a bubble closed. I think it really gets to be very... And the goal is to be paranoid and be suspicious. I think it really starts to eat at you.

Do they know how many traders are left? No.

But they do know that people turn?

They do, yeah.

So they're saying one or two left.

It's incredibly lame of Rob to be riding so hard for Eric because the reason he threw Lisa under the bus was because Lisa- She was getting suspicious. She was like a liability. Eric sucks at being a trader. He's such a liability. The first roundtable he went to, Kristen was on to him, and now Mark was on to him after last night. So the way he's so not throwing Eric under the bus is very suspicious.

And I don't understand why they're not more suspicious of Eric. I can make the case for why no one there is a traitor. Johnny and Tara, I think, are safe. Natalie, people really started to believe she's not a traitor. They just voted for her because- Because what else? They got confused. No, because they're afraid of me. Nobody He seems to think Mark is a traitor for whatever reason. They trust Rob, even when confronted with maybe it's Rob, they're like, No, it's not Rob. To me, Eric is the most obvious traitor. There's no reason to argue why he's not a traitor. He doesn't throw anyone. He's just coasting the whole time. Also, Mark, literally, Kristin said, If I get killed tonight, it's Eric. Okay, so this is where Mark is so dumb. And now Mark is like, Well, maybe it's to throw me off to think it was Eric.

Kristin literally told, If I go home tonight... And Mark didn't want to tell anybody He didn't want to bring it up at the roundtable.

I don't know. Also, they're like, Why did Candice throw out Rob's name? It's like, If they would just go one step further and be like, Well, the first time she threw it out is when Rob went for Lisa, and Lisa wound up being a traitor. That must have made That's when Rob started turning on his fellow traitors, right? If Rob is the traitor, then he went for Candice, and Candice was leaving Crums. It's right there.

No, but they don't really have the courage to go there. Even if they were able to put it all together, they would be able to explain it Really, the roundtable, I say this every week, the show is so fascinating because it's seriously a sociological experiment. To see all these people have actual concerns, legitimate concerns about Rob, not voice them and get so... Rob sitting there smiling when the conversation now becomes a fight between Tara and Natalie. It's so just silly and funny how humans are easily manipulated by people.

I also think it's not good for women.

Maura?

Maura, but also Tara and Natalie getting distracted. They were aligned on Rob, and they had really good reasons for Robin. Instead, they start infighting with each other.

Yeah, but I think the Maura thing is more embarrassing. Maura would not even entertain the conversation. She's swooning. Yeah, but they're not even in love. When she fucking finds out.

I don't think she's even going to care. I don't think she's taking this very seriously. Right. And that's why it's weird that she's still there.

Who do you think- I appreciate her saying that being like, I don't know why I'm still here. I'm not good at this game. So why are you crying, Tara?

Yeah. Who do you think they'll kill tonight?

Is everyone an option?

Except for Eric.

Except for Eric. I think that they should kill Mark because that's their ally. I know they then lose a vote, but it really makes them look very innocent.

I think they look more innocent if they kill Maura because people would think Rob would never kill Maura. But they shouldn't kill Maura because she will always vote with Rob. He needs her vote. So if you kill Tara or Johnny, Johnny, then you're like, the whole opposition is gone.

No, not only that. If you kill Tara or Johnny, that makes Johnny's not a faithful. And I think whatever Tara is, Johnny is, and whatever Johnny is, Tara is. So you're then getting rid of two distractions.

No, but at this point, they don't need distractions anymore. If they get rid of Tara or Johnny, he will still have the vote from Mark and Maura, Eric. Well, sorry.

What happens next? There's no more round tables.

So I guess the faithfuls have one more shot. This is just me guessing, have one more shot at guessing the traitors. They put it in, and then all will be revealed. Then the game is over. And so if they- Is next week the finale? I think so.

Yeah. Okay, good. It's enough.

It is enough. So I think, honestly, they just have to kill Tara or Johnny because Eric, Rob- Mora. Mora.

And Mark- Mark is like 75 % team Rob.

He is capable- He might have to be the one to save everyone, but I think they'll never get more to flip. And so if he goes against the group, I think it's one. The game is one already. By Rob. Yeah.

Yeah. Rob had a moment of reflection. First of all, Rob lashing out at the carnival was weird.

Yeah.

But then he had a moment of reflection for the first time. The sociopath was like, I feel bad for all the people I'm hurting. I actually did not buy it.

I think that Rob will get them all to turn on Eric, and they'll banish Eric. They'll have gotten a traitor, but Rob was still in their midst.

Well, I think that that would probably be the best thing for Rob, because I think people are like, you couldn't go to bed for your tried and true traitor. The second thing got hard, you dumped Lisa. But this rando, Eric walks in at the 11th hour and you're fighting for him. It actually makes him look really bad and really misogynistic.

Yes, but I think he needs his vote.

Yeah.

Because if Eric got out. If he worked it so Eric got banished instead of Natalie, Natalie's not a sure vote for team Rob. She already started going for Rob, so she had to go.

Her speech made me so upset. First of all, I can't believe she was in that dress all day with the heels. I know. So I read about the schedule. You do full glam by yourself in the morning. You go to the castle all day. You change there for the challenge into running clothes. You get back to the castle, put back on your outfit. I think you're allowed to touch up your makeup a little bit. And then the roundtable goes into the wee hours of the night. I was so uncomfortable for her in the dress and the shoes. And then she gives this speech about how she's always wanted to be strong, and now she feels like it was her greatest asset. And then people here used it against her, and she's a faithful.

No, And when they're like, I think you're a traitor. You're very smart, you're very strong, you're good at the game. It's like, just because I'm smart doesn't mean I'm a traitor. So all faithfuls are dumb.

Not only that, you don't achieve traitor status. It's just given to random people. So being smart, it's not like you earned it. Right.

So like, okay, because I'm smart. And because I'm smart, you guys want to get rid of me when I could maybe help you.

It's very hard to judge everyone because I just know if my ass is in this house, I'd be dumber than all these people.

I have no idea what I would be. I think it's so hard. I don't think I would be good at it.

I think you're right that only a true sociopath bath as a faithful or a traitor, can be successful. I'm being very judgmental of everyone. You're dumb, you're stupid, you're fat, you're ugly. I would be worse.

No, I think that it's hard to be a really good traitor. I respect Rob's gameplay But I think for the faithfuls, it's a bit of luck and going unnoticed and just being unremarkable.

Until a certain point. Because then you've been so quiet the whole time. That was like Lisa Rinna.

Yeah. No, but you can't do that as Lisa Rinna.

Yeah, right.

Mark Ballas is a perfect example.

But even Donna Kelsey. She engaged with no one because she was afraid, and they got her in week two.

Yeah. No. So it's really like luck, who they're going to try and focus on.

Except Rob is a skillful player.

And it's like, Colton got banished or halfway through the game or whatever. Would we say he was a good player, even though he left early? Excellent. I would say he was great. So it's weird. The best players aren't there.

You know, it's like you aren't rewarded. The people who make it far aren't the best players. They're lucky or And Remarkable. And that's boring. That's the fatal flaw of the show. The people that we're left with now, imagine if the remaining six was like, Rinna, Candice, Michael Rappaport.

Colton.

Donna Kelsi. It was a good cast.

Yeah.

Who we were left with, that's just the fatal flaw of the game. Yeah, it is. Why were the first three episodes the best TV I've ever seen in my life?

Because it was a lot of different people, a lot of characters, a lot of personalities.

And I know the Secret Traitor thing was dumb, but I did really like when people would get on the circle that I didn't know what they were going to say. Now I know what everyone's going to say, and I'm like, Yeah, stick it to them, Natalie. But it was a little thrilling to be like, Is Donna the secret traitor? Not knowing who- For the audience.

I always wonder what the show would be like and how I would be as an audience member if I didn't know who the traitors were, would I be able to guess? So that was fun.

You should try it one season.

I didn't think it was Donna.

I didn't think it was Donna. I thought it was for sure Colton.

I thought it was for sure. I thought it was for sure Colton. I thought it was for sure. Like, elder abusers. Yeah. Fending this poor old lady.

Yeah, I thought it was for sure, Colton. Yeah. And then Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which was really... I was not loving the episode. I thought it was boring until Denise showed up. I thought that was the most fascinating conversation in reality TV history. One, because Denise's time on the show, I believe, was cut short. I think the women really did her dirty. And it was very interesting because she remained friends with a couple of Garcelle. And I guess she kept in contact with Erica. And now we know why Erica was so moved by Denise's story. I was so shocked when Erica spoke up. I was shocked. I wasn't sure if it was the boy, sorry, boy, one of my three, the man that she's dating. Is that what she was referring to? Because I was like, How much time has passed? But then she said, No, now she's dating someone else. So it was a relationship before that. Yeah.

Who we don't know who she's been dating in the years since Tom.

It was so crazy. First of all, Denise's stories about being abused after her facelift.

Oh my God.

On the toilet. Like, fucking crazy.

I fucking hate her. You can't walk. You can't go to the bathroom. You can't wipe yourself. Would you be more vulnerable? No.

And that's how she knew. Before the next surgery, she wanted... Like, insane. She looked amazing. And I love the transparency about facelifts.

No, that was frightening.

And then out of left field, Erica says, It happened to me.

Yeah, well, Erica was being so supportive, and she knew just what to say. She couldn't have been a better friend in that moment. And then she shared that she knows how she feels because it's happened to her, and that was just so sad. Sutton was also just so there.

And I want to say I thought it was very It's very appropriate that Sutton got choked up in her confessionals. When someone shares that with you, you crying, stop. That's inappropriate. But it's such a heavy thing. And I thought it was a real... Just a very graceful response to be there and supportive and ask questions, but not be overly emotional, but then clearly, it's a shocking thing to hear in her confessionals, getting choked up about it.

Yeah. I feel like all the women, at least this season, are really good at being there for each other. Even Erica has more legal drama, and they've all reached out. That's so crazy. Yeah. That sucks. It sucks.

Because she's just She's digging herself out of the hole that Tom left her in, and she's working so hard. And it's almost all for nothing because all of it has to go to her legal bill. That's terrible. I would love to have Denise back on the show. I loved her when she was on. I thought the women mistreated her so poorly. Kyle. Kyle doesn't get enough hate for that. She was so awful leaving the charge against Denise. And Rina. Yeah, of course.

But Erica is still best friends with Rina, yeah? They were best friends on the show after the show. It was a real friendship. Yeah. But I think Denise I hate Rina. Of course. Yeah. So, so, Erica is in the middle.

Now, watching those old clips of Aaron. I know. It's the hand crushing thing. I hadn't seen that before.

I remember seeing it, and then it was just explaining I mean, it was just like, oh, it was a bad moment. Yeah.

And men who get really involved, it's always nefarious. It's fucking weird. Yeah. Especially season one.

None of the other husbands are. Honestly, I don't remember exactly everything they did, but I just remember thinking, Denise and Aaron were such a great couple.

They were just supportive of one another. Yeah.

Yeah. Especially after Charlie. And then when Denise said he makes Charlie look like an angel. It's true.

Because when I watched Charlie's documentary, and his greatest crime was that he was self-destructive. He never really heard... Denise was in the documentary. I think he was a terrible husband, but I think she loves him, and they still try to actively co-parent, and they have a good relationship. He was worse than Charlie. Yeah. For sure.

Shocking.

The episode was boring, otherwise. I love to see the ladies at Surf Lodge.

Oh, I loved the Hamptons. Watching like, to reget her flirt on was so cute. Was that guy 26 or 40?

I don't know. Xander?

Yeah. He didn't look 26, and he didn't look 40. Xander. He looked both. He actually looked both 26 and 40.

I could have lived without the whole thing.

Why aren't all the girls there? It's a weird trip. And it really looked like they were having true fun. Yeah.

It's like a perfect summer. They do two trips on housewives, like a small one, always a little bit more local, and then they're going to Italy.

But they already did.

Oh, yeah. Where'd they go? Santa Barbara or like- San Antonio? Oh, no, Arizona.

Sedona?

Whatever. Tuscán. Tuscán. They did a local trip, and then they do a big trip. But yeah, they could have done a mid-size trip where they all went to the Hamptons, and we're all at Surf Lodge, and we're all going shopping.

Would be amazing. Yeah.

And then it looks like next week, Kyle calls Boze being like, I'm really concerned.

About Dury because she's shopping. She's shopping at the home.

By the way, Erica is giving real empath this season. I had her conversation with Amanda, which was the first time I heard Amanda speak, and I didn't hate everything she said and thought she was the worst. She's just coming... She's approaching the season with a lot of feelings. Yeah. And understanding. It's nice. It's so not Erica.

She's really a rock solid friend. Yeah.

I feel like she's just a rock solid person. Oh, it was chilling when she said, You don't know what it's like to be the mother of a police officer and have to call 911. Yeah. Chilling. I always forget that Erica has a son who's a cop. Yeah. I also forget that she has a son.

Oh, I remember.

I feel like it's a little incongerith with her image, her Erica Jane image. Erica Girardi had a kid.

She's so 360.

You cannot put Erica Jane in a box.

No, I forgot about Amanda. She's been coming up on my timeline a lot.

With her content?

Her content.

It's definitely giving Boze onto something because she's so wealthy from all these courses, right? She makes Instagram reels that have 700 views.

Yeah. So what do you think that it is? Because Boze is saying she teaches you how to manifest money while also taking your money. So it's counterintuitive.

Yeah, no, it's snake oil salesman. Like, snake oil salesmen live in nice houses because they are good salesmen.

Yeah, but if you want to spend your money learning how to make money, that's how you...

She's not breaking the law.

Right. But it sounded like you were about to allude to some fraudulence because how can you make that much money.

It's not fraudulent per se.

It's a question mark because how can you make that much money doing what she does?

She lives in a nice house.

And she shouldn't have said that her husband brings home no money because we would just assumed they're dual income. You know what I mean? But it definitely leaves a question mark of how can you make that much money doing what she's doing?

The thing she said about Doreet was really mean about how Doreet's just jealous of Amanda because Amanda has never financially depended on a man.

Oh my God. I was like, no one was saying anything.

Yeah, but Doreet financially dependent on a man, and it's really not working out for her. Like, so mean. So uncalled for. I'm going through a legal battle with their ex over custody and money. It's such a traumatizing thing.

So uncalled for. I just hate her. Argument, their petty squabbles, have not reached a level. We've not gotten there yet. Where you need to say that about someone. Yeah.

That was just so out of left field.

Yeah.

So, yeah, it was a boring episode. I need the girls back together. It's now It's a two and a half episode where they're- It's bifurcated. Where they're on separate coats. And it's like, oh, sorry, Erica should be in the Hamptons. Oh, I like that Rachel Zoe hates Kyle. Because it's true. Kyle is like this OG housewife. Everyone loves her. Everyone loves us. And it's like, Where's that girl? This new Kyle is definitely... I don't think it has anything to do with her being sober. She just... She sucks. And so I hear Rachel being like, You're the O. G. Of the B. H. And it's like, This is it?

No. And it has... I don't even remember that she's sober. I'm not interested in watching drunk people. That's not like... So it has nothing to do with that. It doesn't. I also now notice what you said, which is that Kyle is very nasty in her interviews. Nastyer than at the table, she'll not say anything, and then she'll undercut whatever said in her interview. It's going to make for an interesting reunion. But if I'm to read watching that, that's not your friend. No.

And Rachel really likes to read. I think they are similar personalities. They're very fashiony, and then they both have this divorce looming over their heads, so they relate to one another. And I think soon, Rachel's dislike or just like meh on Kyle is going to get even worse because she's going to start taking up for her friend. I like that Rachel Zo is not afraid to get a little dirty. I wish she could go a little bit more.

Same, but I also I think Cathy stands in her way.

Even though like those were her sisters.

Cathy wouldn't stand in her way, but she's not going to... Meanwhile, the Hilton sisters, no one's asking to them then each other, but you can be.

I think Rachel would respect that that's Cathy's sister.

Yeah, and not want to put Cathy in an uncomfortable position, even though Kyle chose Reneside over Cathy. But like, Rachel's- You ask in the ask and DJ situation. Remember it had her over.

Of course. That was awful. Awful. No, Rachel joined this crew. She has to work over the summer, but she's like, Whatever. I think being a reality star is fun. These women look like they have a lot of fun, and she's wanting to have fun. And Kyle's so not in a fun place, and she's not a fun person right now. So I just feel like it's not a good match them two. I don't know why she brought Kyle, and it was all to help with Dorit.

I think it was single ladies.

No, I thought it was to help her and Dorit see one another. Meanwhile, they haven't had a meaningful conversation the whole time.

But I guess also if she just brought Dorit and Erica, well, that would have been my dream. Dream team. But she probably brought Dorit and Kyle because that's content. They need to have conversations and do the spiel. But But they're not. But they're not even doing it.

Why is Erica sitting at home?

Why isn't Erica there? I feel sick.

Even Kyle could have been there. It's not one or the other.

All of them went, Boes, then Boes. Where's Boes? Sorry, wait. But she is not going on.

Dream team is Boes, Erica, Rachel, to read. Even though it looks like Doreet and Erica go at each other this season. I can't.

It happens as long as it's something we can't come back from.

Well, that's your TV recap. That's our show for the... Oh, no, sorry. It's Queeny and Weanie. Almost forgot. Sorry. Our final segment of the week is something we like to do called Queenie and Weanie of the Week. We give out two awards to two different people. It's extremely self-explanatory. Queenie of the Week and Weanie of the Week. It could be anyone from pop culture to world news, global impact, Queenie of the Week and Weanie of the Week. So, Jax, would you like to go first with your queen?

Yes. I think my Queeny is pretty obvious. The man, the myth, the legend, Paul Salem.

The joy that this photo... Honestly, it's the frame. It's not even the man inside of it. The joy this has brought me. People are laughting it as our best segment ever. I'm obsessed.

And he is not only the first businessman of the week, but he's the first joint businessman of the week and queeny and unanimous queeny at that.

Bacotta.

Bacotta. So heavy as the head that wears the crown, Paul Salem, don't fuck it up.

He's the first businessman of the week, and if I have anything to do with it, he'll be the last.

Oh, wow. That means we don't get Jets and we don't get Birkins, and we didn't get a sponsored segment.

And then Weenie. I actually had so many options this week. I, of course, wanted to throw Massimo's name around because just imagine fumbling I'm Lori Loughlin, but I didn't end up going with him. I came very close to choosing Tara Lepinsky because honestly, her behavior at the Roundtable could only be described in one word.

That would be Weenie behavior.

But I decided to go with someone else, and that's Lucy from Tell Me Lies. Getting in the car. Actually, I want to also make Weanie of the Week anybody who thought she had a plan getting in the car and that Lucy's in control and she let him go because that's also.

This was all her idea.

But Lucy, her getting back in the car, Like, her getting back in the car.

Her getting back in the car. Her getting back in the car, only to do it all again at like, Brie and Wrigley's wedding. Correct. My Weanie of the Week is adjacent to yours. It's from Tell Me Lies, and it's Wrigley's wig and the people who put it on his head and thought that that was a good idea. I love that. And in what's supposed to be the penultimate moment of the show of Brie and Wrigley- So distracting. Finally getting together without morning breath, and they're looking their best, and it's been years, and he's in that wig. Major plot hole.

I agree.

Like show-ruining.

Do over. Like, seriously, do it over.

Yeah.

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