Transcript of Memoirs Of A Daddy: Wednesday, February 25th, 2026

Good morning, girlies. It's The Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, It's The Toast.

They sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy... Why are we having such a hard time this week? Tuesday? Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. It is Hump day. Don't forget to have someone you love. And speaking of somebody that I love, it's Jacqueline Follet. Hello Ms. Follet. Thank you so much for taking the time to join our show.

Of course. I always take the time. You actually like, I'm someone who doesn't take the time. I know.

We're not a guest-based show. So sometimes it's fun to welcome people to the show.

You like to pretend that I'm your guest.

Yes. And you do have multiple sides to you, and it's a new guest every day.

Really? I feel like I'm so rock solid.

You know what I mean? You're very dynamic.

Thank you so much.

You have multiple personalities.

I have multiple rocks. You're right. In my solid. So if I was your guest, what would you want to be interviewing me about?

I wouldn't because I want to talk about myself and something that happened to me today.

So maybe I should say, Welcome to the Toast.

Oh, so now you're stealing my intro.

Thank you, Claudia, for joining us today. Claudia, tell us about yourself and what it's like to be turd self.

I want to talk about something that happened yesterday, Valentine's Day.

Okay.

The flowers.

Yeah. What? You were saying it like something I don't know, like you were about to tell me a story.

Well, you don't know.

I don't. What happened in your house?

I told a story on The Toast yesterday that Ben also told on his podcast, and his version was like, Oh, Slam Duncan, Claudia. Okay.

So obviously- I also can't believe that if we hadn't just happened to mention this stupid flower thing that you would never know that he said that on Good Guys.

Yeah, right. Because I don't listen to their show. So I told a story, if you're not familiar with this saga, yesterday that on Valentine's Day, we were at Jackie's house, and Jackie got flowers, and I yelled at Ben for not getting me flowers. But turns out they were at home, and we We just weren't home, and they were very beautiful, and I had to apologize. And then Ben went on his podcast saying that when we were at your house and Zack sent you flowers, it reminded Ben that he didn't get flowers. And so we went into the other room in that moment, ordered flowers, and then they were there when I got home. And obviously, I knew that. I was trying to I checked my husband by trying to make him look good. He's disgustingly honest. So, yeah, the man forgot to get me flowers. Imagine, how many years have we been together? Fifteen. No, not a single flower. And then he had to... And then this is just where you're going to piss me off because I am all about a fiscal conservatoriness. And because Ben went so nuts and didn't get flowers, he had to then overcompensate.

So instead of a normal person getting three dozen roses, he got seven. It was $700 on flowers that I threw out two days ago. So that's dumb. So not only are you forgetful, but you're also irresponsible. Like, jail twice, two life sentences.

Yeah.

So, yeah, guys, I know. It wasn't like a big, Oh, look, turdy. I knew.

That's really sweet.

I lay it all out here on the podcast to a point. I'm trying to protect my family.

I just want you to know I really... I bought what you were selling.

Yeah. I make my bones on making fun of Ben. So sometimes I try to protect him and just not everything needs to be shared. And in his defense, he was like, well, I assumed you were just going to tell the story on the podcast. I'm like, no, I protected you. You didn't protect yourself.

I can't help you there. So your protection ends here.

Oh, yeah.

No more secret service. Also, I'm sure the florist up charges people who ordered, who forgot to order flowers. And they definitely have extra flowers that they know there's going to be people who need them same day.

And you could charge 3X for delivery.

You can literally charge 3X. That is a desperate person you're talking to. Yeah. Lish.

Extremely desperate. The funny thing was that Ben has started to not keep Shabbat, but on Saturdays, he's been turning his phone off to be more present and connect with the Lord, and I think it's great. So Valentine's Day was on a Saturday, and he had to use my phone behind my back. Not on my phone, on using my minutes to call the florist.

Watch how he didn't know his credit card number.

So he probably went into your Apple Pay. 1,000%. So that's what I get from trying to protect my husband. Duly noted, won't happen again.

Okay. Well, thank you for your honesty, though You were dishonest with us yesterday.

I wasn't dishonest. I wanted to share your funny story, but I don't need to lay...

No, I understand.

I hate this whole, you have to lay your whole life out online to be an authentic influencer. Okay, I'm not.

No, but it's been 24 hours.

And I told the truth.

And she told the truth.

Yeah. So that's what the truth is.

Because you also could have continued being dishonest and said, I didn't know.

Yeah, but now I look like a fool. Oh, I don't fucking think so. I don't fucking think so.

Not today. She's nobody's fool.

This foolishness ends here. Yeah. I also went to Target yesterday. Now, I know what I'm going to say. This is not...

That it's an amazing magical place.

It was such an amazing magical place, and it was just really ruined by the fact that I had to pee. So I was rushing through it when I really wanted to be leisurely. And it's funny how Target on a weekday is like a daycare. There were kids everywhere. I guess if you're a stay-at-home mom or you're home with your kids, you're just going to go to Target. You're going to put them in the car and you're just going to wheel around for fun. I was playing with kids. I felt weird not having a kid there. I went by myself for some me time.

They should do music class.

They should do music class. They have a Starbucks. They need to open a little gym or one of those gym places. It was so magical. I haven't gone to Target for convenience these days. If I'm ordering for Target, Target Online has the best delivery. You get same day delivery.

Target Instacart.

I know, but you pay an upcharge on Instacart. Target website delivery, Target Circle, you could shop from the store locally, and it comes directly.

You could also pick up and then get one of the best spots.

Parking spots, yeah. Sometimes I park there when I'm not picking up. And the suitmate, okay, cuffed me up.

Wow. First she's lying, now she's breaking the law.

And I did steal because I went to Target and I had a card of about 100 things. I spent, yeah, I spent $400. I I did so many things, and it was self-checkout. So I did my best.

I did my best. I didn't realize you've been through that.

I did my best knowing that I probably wasn't scanning each thing, maybe correctly. And I just thought, that's the tax of making me self-checkout. I had multiple items. I bought 10 onesies, baby onesies, because we needed the new pajamas. And I was scanning them all. I didn't hear the beep every time, and I just thought, self-checkout tax.

I tried.

Yeah.

And That's the price. You should be paying me.

I'm your employee now.

That's the price of them no longer paying cashiers. You're losing it on the self-checkout end.

At this point, I'm a cashier. I want benefits. I want health insurance. I want this onesie.

You're the checkout girl.

When I was walking out.

Like, look homes.

Yes. I work in the market as a checkout girl. When I was walking out, I heard a beat.

And?

I said, self-checkout tax, and I kept walking. Nobody stopped me.

Okay.

I spent $453. I'm good.

So, Target, you heard all that. Do what needs to be done.

I'm a big fan, but there are improvements to be made. Okay. And I like how they all have Starbucks. A lot of them have Altas now. I love that. They should put a daycare or something. They would make bank.

Yeah. Bank. That's where the mamas like to go, the Reels mamas.

You guys, it was jam-packed with kids. I felt like the only person there who didn't have a kid with me. And I felt weird.

Rubla missed out.

No, I felt inappropriate. It's like if I went to a music class without a kid. It's weird. So it was amazing. I got some great stuff.

Oh, good. I'm so glad. That I paid for, of course. I'm so happy for you. Zack and I took a field trip yesterday. We went to this design show in Palm Beach. That's a really big- Everyone's talking about it here. Everyone's talking about it.

Have you been to Kips Bay? I'm like, no. I'm like, the movie theater? That's what it's called in the city, the Kips Bay.

Well, the neighborhood is called Kips Bay.

Yeah, but nobody goes there unless they're going to the movie theater.

Yeah.

Unless you just graduated college. Yeah. Nobody my age goes to Kips Bay unless you're going to the movie theater. Yeah. Or the Fairway next door.

And it was so cool. Spritz was a sponsor, so we were just like, the bell of the ball.

You were the big wing.

Yeah, that's my beverage. Yeah. Anyone want a sip? Yes. We donated. And we vlogged, so I'm not going to spoil everything of what we saw, but it was seriously sickening. Really cool, talented stuff.

I would find an event that upsetting because then I have to go home to my house that looks nothing like this fair.

Yeah, but the fair thing was so cool. So it's in a house. All these designers, you have to be selected. You get a room to design, and everyone does their own thing with it. They do their big one, of course. That's pretty cool. They literally put in new toilets if you get a bathroom.

Then what do they do with that house afterwards?

They leave it. It belongs to the owner. The owner who lent his house out, he then gets the house.

Who was the owner of the house?

I don't know. But then- Was it like a mansion? Yeah. This time it was like two houses. It was like a mansion on the intercoastal and across the street, a cottage, like the guests. So cute. So cute. Every room is so different, though. I wonder if like... If it's annoying. No, or it's like maybe there's a couple of rooms that they wind up just taking some stuff down. It's a lot to live with all the time. But yeah, you got a free, insanely decorated house.

I wonder if that increases the value of your home, how like, Oh, this home was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright.

But this home was designed by 20 different designers.

It was a part of the big festival.

Yeah. Zack and I were discussing in the vlog, but I just thought that That is so cool. That is really cool. And they also do one in New York and Dallas. Really? Yeah.

In a New York City apartment or a house?

I feel like in an apartment city, New York City. That's cool. Really cool.

Love that. Look at us just expanding our interest.

I haven't done something culturally that wasn't the The children's museum.

Yeah, or like being the housemate.

We're going into the aquarium. We do a lot of cultural stuff, but it's always for kids, for all science. I haven't done a cultural activity for just an adult self. And it was very cool. Like, oh, everyone He's doing cool stuff.

Love that. Cool. Happy for you guys. Well, speaking of culture, you know what else I got at Target? What? And I would love to get your take on this. So Ben has been keeping Shabbat.

Great.

And he said he wants a Shabbat book because he gets so bored. And a book, what happened? He refuses to do a Kindle. He thinks it's not the same. So when I was at Target, I'm like, Let me find a book for Ben that I think he would be interested in. And in the past, when I've tried to get him to read, I've gotten memoirs. He did like Rich Paul's memoir. But other than that, it hasn't stuck. So I'm like, Let me go fiction. So I was reading a bunch of covers, and I got him, Have you read Remarkably Bright Creatures?

No, I haven't.

Okay, so I had heard of it.

I've heard of it, too.

And it like... What?

No, I just can't believe that's what you got for him. Wait, why? First of all, it's like, part of the similar like, Crawdads of literary Fitching Guys. Yeah, popular. Yes. I think Dana and or Rebecca read it, and it was not recommended. Shit. Because if it were- There was Marine Life on the cover, and Ben loves Marine Life.

And then I was reading the back, and it's like a thriller. Somebody goes missing, and then she also works in an aquarium, which is Ben's dream to work at an aquarium. I think Ben might. It wasn't for me.

It wasn't for me. It was for Ben. It's a book that I should have read because it's like, Zypicey book. Popular, good reads. But it did not come recommended to me. In fact, it was not recommended to Okay, but I think that might still make it a candidate for Ben.

You and Ben are very different.

And I like what you're doing.

Yeah, I tried. And you know, books at Target, it's not Burns & Noble. I feel like it's like airport books. It's just the pot. Mel Robbins was all over the place and a bunch of cookbooks, which I was going to get for bed. So I was limited. I couldn't find niche books. It was just the Goodreads Hot 100.

Yeah, it's the Goodreads Hot 100. Let me know how it goes. I will. I endorse this message.

He plans on only reading it on Saturdays, so it'll be like a couple of months before.

Well, if he loves it, he will read it on Sunday as well. Yeah. And Monday and Tuesday until he finishes it because that's what a good book does. If you're really only reading it every Saturday, then you don't like it.

Yeah. I can't pick up a book and then days later or weeks later, pick it up again. I have forgotten the entire thing.

And it just means I didn't like it, really. If we're being real. If we're being honest. Because if I loved it, I can't put it down. Correct. That's the thing about books. I'm about to read.

So I'm hoping that Ben's book will get me to... I haven't read in months. I love that. I did it more so for myself. I would love to. We have a TV schedule. Tell Me Like is Tuesdays.

Yeah, last night was a light load.

Right. So I'm thinking we are in a heavy schedule with TV, and on the nights now, Tuesdays have opened up. On the nights like that, maybe we could read. And I thought, if Ben had a book, maybe I would then pick up my Kindle.

That's so cute. And that's really goals, like reading in bed with your partner.

And then putting on moisturizer.

And then also you've both read each other's book, so you could talk about them. You know who does that? My friend does that with Sam and Ben.

They share- They're both really... Smart. Smart. But in a book's way. We're all smart.

I think Dana and Josh probably do that. He recommends a lot of books to her, and sometimes she'll even make them for the red heads. They swap books.

That's elite living. That is living on a different planet than the one we're currently on. We just swap We just swap real.

We just swap real. We just share memes.

No, I want to get to a place where we're moisturizing and reading in bed.

And then Ben will take off his glasses.

Yes. It's such a scene, right? His and her sides of the book, they're both... Side of the bed, they're both reading. She takes out her cream of moisturizers. She's rubbing her elbow. And they say, Did you know Winston Churchill? Yada, yada. I just want to know things. Yeah.

Yeah, goals.

Yeah. We'll get there. We'll see. No, that's really... Okay, resolution.

Resolution is you and Ben reading... Well, you're on your way. He asked for a book.

We're halfway there. Yeah. You have to want.

I'm not... We're not there.

All right, you'll get there.

But actually, there was a book I wanted Zack to read, and he endeavored to read it over the course of multiple years.

Oh, multiple years? Yeah.

He didn't like it. It was Bad Therapy by Abigail Schreier. I thought it was really insightful, and he enjoyed what he read over multiple years.

Does he reference it ever?

No. But every time we go somewhere, he brings it. Oh, my God.

That's so fucking cute. That's actually better than if he had finished it. Yeah.

Even when we were dating, he was always bring a book. If we went on a trip or something.

Well, I deeply relate to Zack in that way because a book is also like an image thing. It's obviously nourishing the mind, but also having everyone around you know like, yes, I read.

Yeah, but he would always bring a book on the trip, and it was always the same because he never actually read it. That's hilarious. Now that book is that book for him. Got it. That's his go-to. His marriage. Well, the book that he wants to read next. What was the first book? I think it was the one with the orange cover. It was like... The Art of War? No.

How to not give a fuck?

Like, subtly.

The art of not giving a fuck. The subtle art of not giving a fuck.

Maybe that one, something like that.

People who don't read own a copy of that book. I know.

Because the funny thing is that- They think that's the one you start with.

Yes, because I've been talking for years with Remi Bater about how I actually think she would love to read, especially when she became really famous on TikTok, it was very bad for her mental health. I was like, If you take a couple hours a day off your phone to read, I think it would be really good for you. You love all the shows and everything. Books are shows. And I've been dying. And she was like, The one book she has, and she's like, Okay, I'm going to read it. She's always posting about this book, The Orange: Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck.

People think you need to start with that. If you start with it, you will never read it.

You're never going to continue.

Just start with Colleen Hoover, okay?

Colleen Hoover is The Gateway Book.

Yeah, I think Verdi is The Gateway Book.

Okay. I think that's a great recommendation. For me, The Gateway Book was recommended by you. It happened one summer. When I read I was like, Oh, I didn't know that books were like this. I didn't know we were reading like a rom-com books. And then also, Seven Husbands is a gateway book. It's just a little long.

No, but that is really good.

That's when I read books, I'm like, Oh, this is what books are. My whole mindset on books was school. Yeah. Literature, boring. We have to find double meaning in everything. Is it a pencil or a penis? I was like, This sucks. I didn't realize that books were just TV shows, and TV shows are Yeah, and we could just read for fun.

But you know what Margot said once? Margot Monterey? Yeah, a cute, insightful thing she once said when she talked about... When she was the first one in the family reading, and she needs...

She gets credit there.

She gets really annoyed when we don't share it.

When we were on tour, she would bring a Kindle, and it was such a vibe killer. I'm like, Can we go out?

Yeah. When we would go on family vacation, up until I started reading, she would always be in the bath reading. She read first, okay?

Yeah, 100%. She had to get the first. She had to get the first.

She said that she likes reading over TV shows Because you know what the character is thinking. That's very insightful. Isn't that cute?

It's not cute. I knew what you thought you were going to say, but- I just thought it was cute. No, the cuteest thing Margot ever said. Do you know what it is?

She wants to be a mom and a cheerleader.

When you would ask her when she was a kid what she wanted to be, she would say a mom and a cheerleader. No, you're going to remember it, though. We were in LA.

Okay.

Okay, so you don't remember.

I'm not there.

So we took a sister's trip. Remember, we stayed at the Mr. C Hotel, and they had the two really small beds. We had to share two small beds. Margot started crying one day, and we were like, What's wrong? Where were we when she was crying? We were in the hotel room sitting on the tiny bed. Okay. We must have been getting ready or something. She started tearing up, getting upset. We were like, What's wrong? She couldn't explain it. She was like, It just makes me sad. We're not always going to be doing this. I'm not going to cry talking about it. It was so sweet. She was like, We're not all just going to be sisters like this. It was very, very sweet.

Oh my God. I don't remember. I didn't know that that had happened.

You don't remember that?

I feel like we need to take a sister's trip to LA with her.

I was so impacted by it.

That's so... It's not really congruest with the way I think she feels about us. So maybe she misses us.

It's a cry for help.

Maybe she misses us.

It is a cry for help.

I think we should take a sister trip to LA and sit down and share Mr. Ceebeds.

We have to share.

Okay, we all have our own room. No, no.

We like to share. I do. I love sharing rooms. That's my dream. Like us all being in. I know what Margaret was saying. It was such a girly moment. We were getting ready for something. We We went to Chaconis for dinner. It was a fabulous trip. We don't do that. We don't take sister trips.

No, and she's right because we used to be- A unit.

A unit.

We used to do every Saturday night. It's like, what are we doing? We're going out with our friends, but we're all going. We're just one group every vacate. We were always going on trips and this and dinner and this and that. It's obviously not like that anymore.

Yeah. She was speaking truth about what the future would hold. Everybody went on and grew up and did their own things and made new friends, got married.

It was very- It was Mostly just married with kids because it's not like we made new friends and ditched our sisters. Yeah.

We're always like- No, just life is different now.

Life is different now. It was very sweet. That was really when we were the Steans.

She literally said it's not always going to be like Steanie vibes.

It was really sweet. I mean, it isn't always- I wonder if she...

Am I making this up?

No.

I think for the second day tomorrow, we have to call Sachi. Okay.

But tell her we're recording. I will, of course. And also, I feel like it's a little personal, so she might say she never it. But know that she did. It's just Olivia and Brian. But know that she did.

Hi. Are you in the toilet? Okay, I won't show you, but we are recording, and I wanted to ask you if you remembered something or if I'm making this up because I do sometimes make up memories.

Hey, Sachi.

Do you remember when we took a sister's trip to LA and we stayed at the Mr. C Hotel? Of course. And you said- He had beds. He had beds, yeah. And you said the cuteest thing ever. Okay. I probably don't remember that, but what? We were all sitting in the room getting ready or something, and you were like, You got upset. And we were like, What's wrong? You couldn't explain what was wrong. And you basically were just like, It's not always going to be like this. Steanie vibes, the four of us. I do remember saying that. Okay, good. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't making it up. I was ahead of my time there. Yeah. Because you were right. I was right.

Oh, yeah. Thank you. And she wants to go to LA?

Do you want us to plan a trip, the four of us, and we could stay at the Mr. C Hotel and stay in tiny beds again? I think now at this point, I'm always being to do better than Mr. C, but I would love to. Okay. Enjoy your poop.

She would love to. You would want to do that?

You would want to do that? I'd love to do that.

Do you miss us? Of course. And I will see you Friday.

Yay. Yay. Love you. Love you. Bye. Maybe we do a staycation. Maybe for her birthday, we plan a trip to LA.

That's really cute.

She's so cute. That's actually just when you think she's going to zig.

It's so true. She zags. She zags back to her sisters.

We are the best. Who wouldn't zag to us? We're the best. I know that's how we feel. There aren't two more charitable- Everyone's using our sound. Monica Lewinsky.

Team USA.

Team USA, but Monica Lewinsky.

Monica Lewinsky and Dylan. Mulvaney.

When I say we have range, that's what I'm fucking talking about.

Everyone's using- In the same day, the men's hockey team- It was men's and women's. Oh, right. Men's and women's.

It was the official team USA.

They had all the men's and women's hockey team together. Then they said, We are two of the most I don't even know.

I don't even know. I just want to say it was a social media manager.

She ate that because it was like two teams. So we are two of the most. Yeah, crush it. I don't even know the sound.

We are two of the funiest, generous, charitable people. I know us offline.

And then Dylan Mulvaney.

The fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows my mind. To this day, genuinely.

What weren't Dylan and Monica up to?

I think Dylan's on Broadway, and Monica went to see the show. And then you go backstage, you make TikTok.

And you create content.

Oh, you know what? That just reminds me. I saw a video of Daniel Radcliffe. He's on Broadway as well. Don't you feel like everyone's on Broadway?

Yeah.

Like, Jake Shane is on Broadway. Jake Shane. Whitney Lee-Ovett. And Daniel Radcliffe is, of course, in a critically acclaimed. And part of it being a Broadway actress, and I just want to say, I never want to be on Broadway, please. Unless it's the role of we're making a full reprisal of Hairspray, do not come. Do not come knocking on my door. It looks like the worst job ever. You make no money, and it is so fucking hard. And then when the show is over, you have to do the back door. So you leave the stage door. You can't just finish a hard day of work, in the car, and go home. You have to go out, sign play bills, take pictures. So many videos I'm always seeing like, Oh my God, Jessie was so nice, and Whitney was so mean. They say Daniel Radcliffe literally put on his Puffer code. It was like the blizzard, ran out. People didn't even see him because he put his hood on and he just thought he was a staff member who worked there. And the comments were like, Oh my God, you didn't come to the stage, you hate your fans.

Oh my God, I could never. The fact that Broadway actors and actresses have to do a whole performance after doing that, have to go outside and take a picture with every person and sign every single play bill or else you're not... Or else you hate your fans. Oh my God, I hate that shit. I could never. That sounds like just to stand outside, everyone's filming you, you're exhausted. And if you don't do it exactly right, because the Broadway folk, they take that backdoor stage thing so seriously. I'm going to forget who it was that didn't do it. The person who hates his fans the most, Ben Platt. Ben Platt was like, I'm not doing it. He literally was like, he walked out, was like, waving. I just wanted to say I respected that.

Yeah, I don't take issue with that.

No, me neither. The fact that so many Broadway people, they just do it. You have to. When I'm sure all you want to do is go to sleep.

Yeah. No.

Daniel Radcliffe said, not today.

I won't use that against Ben Platt.

No, me neither.

I have enough.

Yeah, of course. Court of churned.

Let's get into the stories, right? Because that's the job we're here to do.

Much like those Broadway actors.

Right. And we love the back door.

Okay, we love the back door. Our title?

You actually, you said, I just want to go to sleep. You would love it. Remember when we used to do Gizmo?

I would fucking love it.

That was seriously... I actually fuck Ben Platt because that was the high of a lifetime.

It's so true. When we did Jizno and certain venues, like The Beacon, when literally they put up barricades, there were so many tosters. Why don't you take a picture of us?

Seriously, it's a joke. I can understand.

I want you guys to know, we knew that people were outside, so we had a whole presentation. We told everyone to get in the car, take our stuff. We can't be carrying bags. I said, take my jacket. I wanted to be and had a red solo cup because I see cool people drinking. We were going to our after-party and I walked out and I was surprised. I was like, Oh, you guys here for me? I was like, Oh, that's so sweet. I can take some pictures. Like, oh, Autographia, you have a Sharpie? When I tell you, it was like, that's how people die from fame addiction. I understand how you then become addicted to heroin. Because there is no high quite like that. The fact that we didn't become drug addicts after that, it's insane.

A hundred %. And I have no sympathy now for Dango. I agree. Except for a blizzard. But seriously, that moment of adoration, it's- Addicting. Yeah.

I feel like it would actually make you want to get up and go to work.

Yeah, that's what you do it for.

It looks fabulous. It looks alluring. And I could tell you as somebody who's done it, it feels more than that.

Yeah. So when you see people getting paparazzi, leaving like, Kimmel or whatever, and there's like... When there's two- Barricades.

And it's civilized. You're not being like... When I see those episodes of Kardashian's where they go to different countries and people storm their car. That is horrible. I'm talking about barricades, police officers.

Where they have to fight through. Yeah, that looks- And you're just walking like...

Yeah, no one's touching you. You're just getting photographed and you look the way you want to look. Yeah, we need to get paparazzi more. We should just hire someone to follow us around.

Yeah, we should have. We need paparazzi at those when we did that.

Absolutely. Call paparazzi.

For the next time.

We should do it just now soon. We're both free to do it. Yeah. Yeah.

Couple of months. Give me a couple of months. Now, without further, one of the things I need to do is the fast five stories that you need to know.

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Thank you, Tert Maseon.

I tried to write this in the family chat, but there was a lot going on and nobody answered me. So remember two, three weeks ago when it was a Monday? It was a Monday after the Super Bowl and I wasn't on the show. So I had to take root of the emergency room. He's totally fine. I didn't want to talk about it then because I was scared, but he's completely fine. And I got a bill. I got a bill a couple of days later, of course, they don't miss a beat, and it was $3,000. And I've heard forever. I'm Erica, and I read the fine print, so you don't have to. And they always say, If you call the hospital and ask them for an itemized bill, they will send you one that's almost always like half less. They overcharge people because people don't ask for itemized bills. You get charged for things that you don't do. I've never done it before, and I was like, Sure, I don't want to pay this bill right now. I called The lady was so lovely. She said, Yes, you will receive it in about 10 days. I got it yesterday.

Less?

The original bill, let me just get you the exact amount, okay?

Okay.

The original bill was $3,376, and the bill that I got yesterday was $8,446. So whoever started that fucking lie on the internet that you should call for an itemized bill, fuck you, okay?

Oh, my God. You know what I'm dealing with right now?

And that's what I get for like, muchkering.

You know what I'm dealing with right now? What? When I gave birth and then I'm checking out of the hospital, they're like, We'll mail you a bill. I was like, No, I want to pay it now because if you mail me a bill, I'm never going to...

I don't- What about insurance?

They I already did my insurance. Like, whatever.

You can pay when you leave, like a hotel. Yeah.

And I literally am wearing a diaper, carrying a baby, and I'm like, Here, charge me. I don't want a fucking bill. I'm not going to pay it. I don't look at my mail, and I can't get my bill. But I want to pay this.

Yeah, that's very magnanimous of you. Bleeding.

A day after I gave birth, I paid my bill so that they would leave me the fuck alone. They call me every day with a charge. What? Every day, I have a missed call, but I don't get it because I have my screen calls on, and I don't have I never even see it. That I have an outstanding balance. I'm now getting mail from the hospital that I owe them money.

They undercharge you?

No. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. But what happened in between when I left, right now, unless my insurance didn't cover as much as they thought it would. Sounds like a you guys problem. Agreed. Sounds like a you problem because I spent a couple grand on my way out the door. I'm done. That's big of you. What?

Yeah. My hospital bill for Ruby was just about $1,000, which I was That's really...

These people on their bills, they're crazy.

No, that's why I did the itemize thing because it's like, it's like, fake. They just make up prices.

No, they just make up prices. We had to go to the hospital over the summer one time, and so I've been just getting bills from that, which I paid. And then another bill, like $45. What? Yeah, right.

So that's just something I'm dealing with. And thanks to that girl on TikTok who started the fake rumor.

I know this isn't going to be like a news statement or anything, but the health care system is broken.

I mean, I watch a pit, so I know how broken it really is.

It's really broken. I paid my bill. What are you calling me about? I didn't do any new work.

I can't believe you paid your bill.

I know, but that's how much I know myself, where it's like, if something comes in the mail...

That's so funny because that wasn't even an option for me.

The bill just comes- I was like, who wants my card?

The bill just comes later.

That's crazy. I don't roll like that.

No, there wasn't a desk with a credit card machine. I don't even know where I would have done that.

On checkout.

There wasn't a checkout. They just gave me papers and they were like, someone gave me your credit card. She went shopping on the real real or something.

And now I'm getting my bill.

Yeah.

That's funny. Okay, let's get into the stories because we still haven't done that yet. Oh, my God.

Sorry, I just saw the clock. Sorry.

Our first story are two of our favorite categories of news. This? Podcast drama and memoir news.

You guys, I was not prepared for this cover. She released something? Sorry. Can I tell the story? I am so now. Yes, sorry.

Maybe I should say who she is. Sophia Franklin is writing a memoir about the Call Her Daddy fallout. So Sophia Franklin, the co-creator of Call Her Daddy, announced this morning that she is writing her memoir, specifically about what happened in 2020 with her podcast, Call Her Daddy, that she started with Alex Cooper, and the fallout from that. The memoir is called Daddy Issues, and the cover, as Claudia was just about to say, was not what she expected.

I I mean, it's a picture of Sophia and Alex, probably from 2018, like an early picture of their friendship, and Alex's face is crossed out. It's cut out. It's giving that scene in mean girls. This girl can't be trusted. She is a ugly slut. The cover is insane. The title is Daddy Issues, which we love to criticize.

A memoir title.

I think it's a great title. It seems like Sophia has not really leaned into the daddy branding because when she launched her first podcast after leaving Call Her Daddy or being booted, whatever. I think a lot of people thought she was going to do something Daddy-like as well, whether it's single father or whatever. She totally didn't lean into the branding at all, which I do think was a mistake. Now it feels like she's going full force with it. I feel like she's going to put in her Instagram bio, co-creator of the Call Her Daddy podcast. Because now I went on the website, her bio, it says, Sophia Franklin lives based in New York City and is a co-creator of the Call Her Daddy podcast. Now she's taking credit, where up until recently, she wouldn't have.

Yeah. The way you describe the cover. So I think that the format of it feels a little funny, but it does feel like Mean Girls Burn book. And when I see this book, I'm like, I feel like this will be turned into a show because we- She should sell the rights. She should sell the rights. This would be such a great show, and this would be the piece of material that they need to go out and make a show.

And the funny thing is that while it was the story ever. And Alex made that one YouTube video. After that, the girls never talked about it. When Alex has ever been interviewed or even alluded to it, she has a boundary up where she won't talk about it. Actually, I believe that a lot went on behind the scenes that people still don't really know about. I think there's actually a lot of meat for both girls to talk about. It seems as though Alex, that's a no-go for her. It's buried, and she's moved on and won't be going there. But I think it's very hard for Sophia to take that same route because she's the injured party.

Yeah. Sophia talked about it in podcasts and stuff. She's been on this show. She goes on other shows, and we'll talk about especially when the $60 million Spotify deal happened. But it seems like from the description of this book that there's a lot more that happened. I think by the time Sophia was ready to tell her story, people had moved on, and it's hard to just start screaming and be like, Wait, what about me?

And people would be like, You're still talking about that?

Right. I think she's talked about it a little bit, but that there is I think this book is also about her healing journey. I think we're going to read more about why she... There was months before she even put out her first video. I think she was paralyzed.

Yeah. I think she went from... First of all, they had such quick success. They had We're the number one show in the world above Joe Rogan, and it hadn't even been a year yet. To go from being an unknown person to that level, I think it's traumatizing. Nobody can handle that. Then overnight, you're the devil, your man is the devil. An entire barstool, everyone coming for you, making about you, making fun of your looks, making fun of your family. She got it so bad that she's really... So a lot of people were like, make a video, make a podcast, do something. She didn't come out with Sophia with an F for months. I agree. I think she was probably, and I'm sure she'll talk about this, really in a bad spot mentally.

Yeah. I think that that is what a lot of this book is going to be about. It says the memoir will delve not only into her time on Call Her Daddy, so probably the rise, too, which is also just interesting.

Very interesting. If you ever go back and watch their vlog, they were crazy.

They were so crazy. They were so funny.

They were magnetic. It's no shock that they were as successful as they were, as quickly as they were, because they were magic together. They were just crazy fucking bitches. Living in New York doing whatever they wanted. It was insane.

So she said, But it will also talk about the emotional and physical result of her fallout with Cooper, feelings of betrayal, and learning how to reinvent herself. She said, The decision to write the book was when I came to on my own. Six I was reeling from an experience I didn't understand. I needed to grow up and be free of ego as much as humanly possible. She said, For her, losing Call Her Daddy also meant the loss of her friendship with Alex. Everything that we had been working toward and planning for the last year, half a year to year, was suddenly not the plan anymore. Alex thought we just needed to stay with this company and do what Dave was saying. I found out later that Alex and Dave 1,000% had this relationship that I was not aware of and not a part of. I thought Alex was my best friend, sister, and we were not hiding anything. There's no way in hell I would speak to our boss without you. That would be fucking crazy. I don't think that went both ways. That's what Sophia had said in 2023 to Rolling Stone. But then I think the impetus for this book, at least in the video that Sophia posted yesterday, is the documentary.

Alex had her documentary on Hulu. It came out last year.

Call me Alex.

Call her Alex. And they talk about the inception of the show and the falling out a bit. Briefly. I think that the way that now the story is told, it's Sophia is now like, Hold my beer.

Well, I think it's been very convenient for Alex to repackage how the story went because Sophia hasn't spoken about it. So she thought maybe she was safe to put her own spin on it. Like, enough time has passed. Sophia has moved on, started her own show. We're not going back there anymore. So when it came time to have an official retelling, she could have like...

I think she just probably glazed over, just like, We wanted this. We were getting paid this. We were the biggest show in the world. Dave is in the documentary saying that they were paying a lot of the salaries at Barstool. They were locked into a three-year contract, and two years into that deal, they became the number one podcast listened to by women, and they deserved more money, and they did. Yeah, they did. And he made them a deal that Alex said, We couldn't refuse, and if I do it for one more year, we get the IP, and she thought that was a great deal.

And- Sofia didn't want to take that deal? No. Or they didn't tell Sophia about the deal?

No, Sophia didn't want to take that deal. From what I remember, and this is just my memory, they were each offered half a million, 500,000- They were making $60,000 salary. Like, $70,000 plus bonuses. Like, and- Merch. Merch. So all in all, I think they were making $100,000 or $200,000 a year when- They had the number one podcast in the world. Which is insane.

Because Joe Rogan It's like $30 million a year.

No. And the math was coming out that their episodes were generating a million dollars for the business.

Yeah, they got a million downloads an episode. That's fucking crazy.

Or maybe they were generating $100,000 per episode. Something insane. More than their yearly salary in one week.

In one episode. Yeah.

So then the deal that we had heard was that they were each offered $500,000 to continue the show for one more year at Barstool, and then they would have their IP.

A little piece of merch, right? Like a percentage of their merch sales, like little things.

But the salary- The base salary was $500,000.

And Sophia said that wasn't enough.

Sophia said that wasn't a good deal. And then Alex said- Met with Dave. Met with Dave and said, I'll take that deal. And she got Sophia's $500,000.

Oh, so she got a million?

Yeah, she got a million for that Oh, that's crazy.

I didn't know that. Yeah.

That's how I remember it. And if I'm wrong, just let me know. Yeah, that was such a crazy time. And then she did it for one year. And then she got the show. And then the next year, she got 60 million from Spotify. Right.

And Spotify, and I'm sure Sophia will talk about this, the Spotify deal was $60 million for Alex to continue exclusively releasing on Spotify, but also for the back catalog. So all the episodes that Alex did with Sophia that were extremely valuable, like the Milf Hunter, right? Milf Hunter. They had Where's Milf Hunter? I don't know. They had a lot of sagas, famous episodes. People go back and-Gluck. Yeah, right. Things people would go back and watch. So they were really paying for the inventory as well. The 60 million was for future episodes, but also past the archive. And I think that's where Sofia was really felt robbed, where it's like, well, okay, you're selling her voice, her actual voice. Her work. Her stories, this time she got arrested, the time she accidentally did meth. That got sold to Spotify, and she didn't make any money from that. That's really crazy.

Yeah.

So I'm set for this book, and I I want Alex's side, too. Alex is like, I get it because it's murky, and Alex has so moved on. I do feel like the success of Call Her Daddy now is all Alex. You cannot, and I think that that's really something she's probably insecure about, not people being like, You took the success of two people and made it all your own. You can't deny that how far Alex has come is all Alex. She is a marketing... She knows what the fuck she's doing. I think she's hesitant to go back there because she doesn't want it to undercut her current success, which is fair. But I do think the early days and the whole saga, I don't think people know how wronged Sophia was. Yeah.

They thought she was just being stupid and letting her man write the terms and that he wanted their podcast. I think he was just trying to lend his business sense to her because they had something that they didn't know what to do with. They were so underpaid. It's a joke.

And even 500,000 is like, it's not enough.

It's not like 1% of what they make for the company.

If they had been a unit and continued to negotiate either with Dave or left, and they didn't have the IP, but they could have started another podcast at that height. There were options for them outside of it, but it seemed like there was things going on between them in their friendship that Alex didn't want to be with Sophia anymore.

It seems like that Sophia didn't know about it. Yes. That one person is like, this friendship doesn't serve me. This is toxic. Because Alex said in her documentary, it's a situation where what it seems on the internet is not what it was like in real life. I believe that. I feel like Sophia thought they were best friends.

Yeah, like roommate sisters, lovers for life. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know if this will encourage Alex to speak up. I feel like Alex is never going to go there. No, I feel like...

And I'm sure she felt like she covered it in her documentary. Box checked, we're good. That's that on that. Yeah.

And when she went back to the Barstool office, they were like, Do you talk to Sophia? I think that she thought she was really opening up a lot there, and she covered her bases. But I would really love to hear a rebuttal.

And I I feel like we have heard Alex's side. Even when she put out that video, when it all went down, and then she was telling us, See you guys. See you fuckers Wednesday. See you Fuckers Wednesday. She shared her side in the roof and everything. Yeah, the roof. It's really like Sophia's side that hasn't been heard. I don't really think Alex will respond to it, but I think maybe Sophia's sharing her side will show people things that they didn't think. At the time, they thought she was just being a stupid girl being used by her boyfriend. I don't think that's It's not going to happen.

I don't think so either. It was a tragedy.

It's a tragedy.

Her and her man. Her man being like, I wish I never helped these two bitches. His life was ruined. He was a very successful executive at HBO. He worked in media. He knew the scene. He knew that his girlfriend was getting robbed by this company. So he was like, Yeah, sure. Let me help you and your friend. The friend ends up cutting a deal. Dave decides, not only is Sophia my enemy now, but her man is and was selling merch about him. He ended losing his job, like years later. I don't think it had to do with this, but like a very sad story for him. But I think he's happy now. I think he's married.

And they broke up. Yeah, they broke up. I mean, I don't really know how a relationship can... And he's just like, boy, what's your girlfriend?

But they did stay together for a while after. I'm curious if she'll talk about him in the book. She has to. I know, but I think she's like, I don't actually don't know this. I just have a feeling. Maybe she feels like, I dragged him into this media storm once before. Let me let the man have peace.

But if it's for justice, maybe we can I'll let the man have justice.

Yeah, I don't know.

You know? Yeah. I think she has to... Otherwise, he stays like... It really can't get worse for him, for Sup Man.

The book doesn't come out until November, so like, Okay, talk to you then.

Yeah, talk to you then. That's a really long time. It's unfortunate. You can buy it on Saturday for Ben. It could be his Saturday book. I think he will like it.

I think he would like it, too.

Oh, and title name, what do we rate it? It's very good. It is very good. Now, it's not Memoirs of a Daddy.

But I also think she talks about her upbringing. I believe she was raised by a single mom. So there's also Daddy Issues, of course, Call Her Daddy, but then also your father. I think, I think. Don't quote me on that.

But I also want to say, if this were bought, the name of a show, Daddy Issues, it's a slay.

Yeah. No, I think it has real potential. I imagine part of her motivation for writing a book was having it be optioned because that's a thing now. You write a book, and before it even comes out, somebody buys the rights to it because we're big into book adaptations. And I'm sure when the idea was floated to her, that was a huge part of it.

Somebody should buy the rights before it even comes out. Like, this will be a great show, period. Because it's an insane story. It's an insane story. I can't believe it hasn't been like, fictionalized already.

That's just so true. Like the roof scene, it ends with us. The roof scene at Dave's during COVID.

But they went together, got together on a roof during COVID. Are you guys not mad about that?

I'm even cracking up. I didn't even realize it was a roof in COVID.

That's so funny. It was a roof in COVID. It was three strangers who were like, sheltering- Two, I thought.

Was just Alex at the meeting or Alex Alex and Sophia.

Alex and Sophia and Dave. It's hilarious that they had it on the roof. They were all quarantined in different places, and they got together from three different places. Called the COVID place. I think we need some retroactive cancelation. Agreed.

It's only right. It's only fair.

It's only fair. Are you ready for our next story, which is some more podcasting news?

Oh my God. Yeah.

Lil Dicky and Benny Blanco have a nude podcast. Yeah. And it's... It's bad.

There was a video going viral of Benny Blanco farting into his microphone.

And his feet up on his bare feet.

Yeah. The thing is, what I love about this industry is the cream is going to rise, right? I don't foresee this being the next Joe Rogan, Call Her Daddy, Theovon. And I know a running joke is like, don't give men podcast mics, or they should make podcast equipment more expensive.

Oh, yeah. I see a lot. Anytime there's a stupid podcast, people comment like, tariff podcast equipment.

It's funny, but I actually like that it's such a low lift accessible medium because anyone can do it. That means anyone can be successful at it. It's really talent-based. These are two people with unlimited money for clips, editors, set building, audio engineers. At the end of the day, if it sucks, it sucks, no matter how much money or status you have. I love that. I love to see successful if people fail. I'm excited.

You know what's so interesting about this? Also, Lil's wife is a co-host, the third co-host, Kristin.

Does Selena make an appearance?

I'm sure that she will, but their podcast, and it's called Friends Keep Secrets. It's producing partnership with Jay Shetty's podcast. Now that I'm thinking about it, remember when Selena and Benny went on Jay Shetty's podcast? It was really great for Benny. I forgot that that's where I landed with Benny. Like, oh, this is very cogent, emotionally intelligent individual. Romantic. Because then I just saw this Farta Palooza. Yeah. But going back before Farta Palooza, like, oh, he actually should have a podcast.

He seemed very smart and had nice things to say.

I forgot. That was, I guess, a very fleeting feeling that I had when I saw him.

It's funny that he went into business with Jay Shetty. It must have been really overwhelmingly a positive thing for him.

Yeah, but it's like, doesn't he produce every major song?

This is just a hobby. This is not a money-making venture. Benny Blanco is just fine.

Yeah, but it's like, this is a very time-consuming hobby. Why does everyone want to do this?

People don't think it's time-consuming. That's why. I guess if you have unlimited resources and you don't need to book your guests, edit your own episodes, make your own clips, have any part in it other than sitting down for 60 minutes. Most people who start podcasts are very involved in, no matter how many resources they have, are very involved in the strategy of the podcast. But if someone's producing it for you, you literally just show up once a week for an hour, fine. That's, I think, what Amy Poehler does. She has a great team around her.

Yeah. But I can also see why for Amy Poehler, starting a podcast is the next logical step in her career. Do you know what I mean?

No, actually. If I was Amy Poehler, I wouldn't have done a podcast, but that's why I'm wrong.

What would you do? More shows and movies?

Well, first of all, I don't think she needs to do anything. I think there are a couple of things that she's done.

I don't know this is the devil's work, turny.

Of course, I'm talking about financial, right? Now it's like, what are you interested in? I don't know. When she started a podcast, I was like, Okay, like, corny.

No, but a comedian starting a podcast, yeah. Makes sense. Yeah, you have stuff to say and you're funny.

But I don't think of her so much as a comedian. I think of her more as like Tina Faye, right?

Comedy.

Yeah, but they're writers. They do comedy, but They're writers, they're producers, they're more like BTS. If Tina Faye started a podcast today, I'd be like, Okay. I don't know. It didn't seem like an obvious choice for me.

I feel like Tina Faye is about to start a podcast. Oh, really?

It would seem like she's just copying Tina.

Except not her because I remember when she said she hates when celebrities have work outside of their acting. Their thing.

Yeah.

It was mean. It was mean, but it's like, Oh, I'm not talking about you, you, or you.

Yeah, right. Meanwhile, once upon a farm just got acquired or went public or something for over a billion dollars, right?

Not enough. Not enough. It's not enough money. I agree. Give them more money.

I agree.

Like, what a slay. Yeah.

Actually, when I was at Target yesterday, I was in the baby section. All the pouches were out on the shelf.

Not refrigerated.

Not refrigerated. It's mixed. I mean, now I'm used to just refrigerated because once a month, I think that's really crazy.

Yeah, it's crazy to think about shelf stable.

Would you eat a piece of fruit that was sitting on it.

Well, dried fruit would sit on the shelf. There are ways of... I mean, it's not like there's nothing wrong with it, but like fresh.

Fresh is best.

Fresh is best. Are you ready for our next story? A little fresh news. Kim Kardashian is joining Energy Drink Brand Update as a co founder. So Kim Kardashian has taken a new brand under her entrepreneurial belt. She is now the co founder of the Parazan Thine Powered Energy Drink Brand Update, founded in 2022 by Daniel Solomons. So Update is an energy drink that does not have caffeine, does not have alcohol, and it's an energy drink.

I'm so fatigued by this.

Update.

I know that Kim is constantly working. That's her thing, right? Meanwhile, Skims is enough to pay the bills and then some. She's a billionaire many times over because of Skims. Okay, I'm just fatigued by this. I got it with Kylie, too. When Kylie did Sprinter, which was just so I'm not even authentic.

But to me, this tells me, this seems to tell me that Sprinter is a success. This looks like Sprinter, it feels like Sprinter. Now, Kim wants a Sprinter.

I've never seen anyone drinking a Sprinter.

No, me neither. But that's like, look, the cans look the same. It looks like Sprinter, yes.

Yes, they do.

So it makes me feel like, oh, being in the beverage industry is a success for the girls, 8182.

Yes.

Because what does this do? She had an update once, and she said, Oh, my gosh, I have to get involved.

Although I I heard something about 818 from somebody really in the know. But they had gotten an acquisition offer for under a billion dollars. I think it was 750 million, and they didn't take it because the Kardashian's are obsessed with the billion, and that was the number that they were going for. And now the value... And that was at the peak of the company. It's not on its way down, but it has stabilized. So I actually don't think all in all, that was a good decision.

That's crazy. I feel like there has to be more to that story.

It's just what I heard from someone like an update. Yeah, update. Like, okay.

She said, She first discovered update three years ago. She said, Immediately aligned with how I think about wellness and energy.

Yeah, I saw this video she put out, and my eyes just rolled so far to the back of my head. I'm sure it's a good brand. She does that rigorously. Yes, in energy drinks are so bad for you. But for a lot of people, they're so necessary. I feel like a lot of our... It's a trend now, like better energy. I feel like we have a lot of neuro gum and mint, one of our sponsors. It's a very trendy thing now to try and find caffeine alternatives, beverage sugary drinks alternatives. She's on trend. I'm sure it's good, but it's just like an eye roll. It's like enough.

I'm a little influenced. She said, I'm someone who moves at a really intense pace but still prioritizes focus, balance, and what I put in my body. Same for me, I would say. The energy category can feel loud. An update offers something different, a more intentional approach designed for sustaining energy. It became part of my routine very naturally.

Yeah, I think you look at the success of Celsius, literally the biggest brand. And Celsius is so good. It's crap, the stuff inside of it.

Not as crappy as the other one.

No, Celsius was a better alternative to Red Bull. So we're all trending upward, right? And so this is just a very on trend.

I need to see a picture I love Daniel Solomons.

Yeah, I was seeing the same thing, a nice Jewish man for-For Chloe. Yeah, or for Kim. Who's she dating? Lewis Hamilton.

Oh, yeah. She's not interested in Daniel Solomons, but for Chloe, I love it.

He's so cute. He's so cute for Hormel. Like a little nerdy. He's so cute.

Hermardo. Yeah. Should he be businessman of the week?

But he hasn't done anything yet.

He roped Kim into being a part of this brand.

I'm sorry. You don't go from the CEO of Hermes and MGM Grand to some random- I need to know more about his personal ethos. If Daniel Solomons comes across our desk one more time in an organic way, then he could be BMOTW. Let me look at his ex-account. I'm not willing to give up on Axel Dumont yet. I'm still waiting for my.

Maybe look at his ex-account. Has he been to a Kelly Clarkson concert? What's he up to in his personal life?

If Daniel Solomons has been to a Kelly Clarkson concert, then yes, he could be businessman of the week.

I have to look at his LinkedIn. He's going to see I looked.

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Our next story, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 17 Nominees for 2026.

I know that we never know who they are.

Well, we know some of them. Should I start with the ones we know or just go in order of this list? In order. The Black Crowes.

I've heard of them.

Jeff Buckley.

Oh, my God. He wrote Hallelujah, my favorite song.

Mariah Carey.

Okay. Rock and Roll Queen.

Phil My God.

We were just talking about him.

Melissa Etheridge.

Lesbian Queen.

Lauryn Hill. Queen.

Oh, my favorite movie. Okay, now be knowing everyone, first of all.

Billy Idle. Not Billy Joel. And not Billy Armstrong. Right.

Not American Idiot.

Not Billy Crystal. Yeah, right.

Not any of the Billy's that we know.

The IDLE one. Okay. Inxs, INXS. In6, I'm going to say.

Oh, In6. Okay. I don't know them.

Iron Maiden. I used to have a shirt. Oh, of course, the shirt. Yeah. Joy Division/New Order.

Love that music. Mazel.

New Edition. That sounds familiar.

No, it doesn't.

Oasis. Tell Ben.

Oasis, they sing.

Wndw.

Anyway, here's WNDW.

Anyway, here's WNDW. Pink. Oh, my God. Wait. Is there going to be...

Because I know Taylor Swift performed at the induction for someone. Will you still love me tomorrow? Tomorrow. So I imagine there's a party ceremony where people sing and we get covers when someone gets honored at the Kennedy Center and everybody shows up to cover their music, which I know is painful for the person sitting there. So I hope we get pink. And I feel like Kelly Clarkson would show up to sing for pink.

You think so? Are they that close?

They're not very close, but they're musicians who respect one another and their joint cover of, That's all I know so far, that's all I know. And pink is wearing Airpods as earrings is one of that YouTube is most watched in my house.

You know who I feel like will show up?

For pink?

As a tribute, who's just showing up.

Who do you think?

It's such a good call, but I don't think you're hearing me yet. Who? John Legend.

Is that a good call?

It's just like, he just shows up.

He is the tribute guy.

He's like the go-to guy.

The go-to like, tributarian.

Yeah, he's very like...

Tribute.

Fine with everyone.

Yeah, and he covers a wide range of music. I think people really respect him in the industry, so that's a good call.

Anyway, here's John Legend. Sure. When in doubt, John Legend. No one's going to be mad. No one's going to be like- So freaking excited. Yeah, it's just a safe choice.

Yeah, I like that.

Shade.

We're not done with the list?

No, there's one. Okay. Shade. Okay. Shakira.

Oh, baby, when you talk like that. Yeah. That's the thing I love about the Rock and Roll Music Hall of Fame.

It's not about Rock and Roll.

They refuse to be anchored by the boundaries of genre.

Luther Vandros.

Dance with my father again.

And who will show up to tribute him?

Who was just talking about him? You.

Oh, no.

I thought they were talking about him in one of the Real House fives. Maybe I'm making that up.

Who? Luther Vandros? I don't know.

Because we were just talking about Luther Vandros. Oh, because Cher said Luther Vandros instead of Martin Luther when she announced at the Grammys that Sia and Kendrick Lamar Oh, that's funny. Bring Cher.

Bring Cher.

That's why we were just talking about Martin Luther.

Luther Vandros. Yes. Thank you. But you just sang that song. Because we were just talking. Okay.

Dance with my father again. That's beautiful.

But didn't Ruben Stutter singing on American Idol?

Probably, and I love that.

So he should do the tribute. Okay, sure. I was saying we were just talking about Ruben Stutter.

Yes, we were, but you're off base. We were talking... Okay, the reason- Okay, we talked about...

I I thought we were more simpatico than we are. That's all.

You're not simpatico with the facts right now. I sing that song because of Cher.

When I said who should tribute him, we were just talking about him. I meant the person who... We were just talking about the person who- I thought you meant we were just talking about Luther Mandros. No, I meant we were just talking about the person who should tribute him.

Yes, Ruben Sitter did sing that Chilling.

Chilling. When he comes on our podcast where we interview people- I just want to say the name of the podcast is Namesake.

Yeah. Write it down. It's beautiful. Yeah.

You don't even need to write it down. And maybe it's like a mini-series. Yeah. Like a moment in time. I don't think we can go on forever.

Oh, my God. I could see us starting to dread it.

And Wutang clan. Now, these are Nominies.

Oh, damn.

So, some of them have already been nominated.

Oh, so you don't automatically get in? No.

That sucks. Yeah. So they have to work for it.

Okay. Start.

Get to work. And maybe you to be nominated multiple times. But good luck to the candidates. Go off, Kings and Queens. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

I'm trying to think of what movie I'm quoting. Oh, it's Friends. Sorry. When Phoebe's just like, Good luck to you. Sorry. Continue.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? It's a little summer house programming news because the summer house world is about to get even bigger as truly original plot's next steps. So as we know, summer house is spinning off in the city. But they are also looking for summer houses of other locations. They are trying to build out the summer house.

They are currently searching- It's what Jersey Shore tried to do with Floribamashore.

Yeah. They are currently searching for locations for new iterations of summer house itself. The show has a very specific architecture in terms of its narrative. So finding that is what we're endeavoring to do. There are actually two potential places that we're looking at. So once we find a place where the architecture is correct, we'll begin the casting process.

Didn't they do this Martha's Vineyard?

Yeah, they did. So you need a They said, You need a place that people go on the weekends, then come back to their own city life, and it has to extend over a summer in order to make the storytelling compelling. It can't be a week or 10 days. That won't work.

I only know what people do in the tri-state area. I know Nantucket. I know the Jersey Shore, which obviously they cannot do. I know the Hamptons. So people who live in other parts of the country, like chime in, where do people go on the weekends?

In the summer? Well, first of all, they could do the Jersey Shore. Good luck to you. Good luck to them, but it's slayed.

No, but I actually would find it disrespectful.

Yeah, but they could do Jersey Shore, Tom's River. They could call Jersey Shore. What is the one?

Long Beach, Long Branch.

No, but also Long Island Beach.

You know what they should do?

What's that one called? Long Island Beach. Long Beach Island. Thank you.

Okay, but if they're really looking for niche, they should do Deal, like Monmouth County. That's where a lot It's like, very wealthy people go over the summer, and it's not a real place. They should do Deal.

They should do Nantucket.

Even though that's not... You don't go back. You have to fly to Nantucket. That's true.

You don't go on the weekends.

And why are they obsessed with the whole going back on the week thing?

Because I think that they They like this format for summer house.

I think it's a flaw in the format is that people always have to go back to the city. And that's why I've always felt that they should cast people who can work from anywhere. And after COVID, a lot of these people could have worked from anywhere. So if they're all in the house all week, having to work, that's more interesting.

I guess, but it would be a lot of... They can't party. I mean, I guess this fits like Jersey Shore.

That's why Jersey Shore was so good. You're stuck in the same house with the same people.

But I guess they're not trying to recreate Jersey Shore. They're limiting into the weekends where everyone gives everything that they have. They get to... I think the format works for I think it's a flaw. No, I think that it's good for this show. There's Jersey Shore, there's a house. There's real world where people live in a house together, and then there's this.

I think in Texas, there's a lot of Lake towns that people go to. Remember on Real House is of Dallas, they would go to Brandy and Stephanie's Lakehouse.

What's that? Yeah. Or in LA, where do people... Do they go to Tahoe?

Like Santa Barbara. But not for the... There's not a culture where you have a summer house because LA, it's always summer.

I guess because the city is where you really have to get out of the city. Other people don't. They have pools. Even if they live in an apartment, their apartment building has- Pools. Amenities. In New York, you need to touch grass, literally.

Yeah, and I think it's similar in Austin and Dallas, where there are a lot of Lake towns nearby.

Interesting. Where people go every weekend. But I do think down the shore, Long Beach Island.

Yeah, you're going to get the most characters in Jersey.

Yeah, but that is anywhere where New Yorkers go.

Yeah. So I'm saying, are they just continuing to do the tri-state area?

They didn't say.

Right? I'm curious.

I think that's interesting. I'm open, and I watched a lot of Summerhouse. I didn't finish the episode. It was a whatever episode. They had a singles event for Ben, the Australian. Lindsay came. She came to the event. Her and Ben are like, flirting. Is that her first? I think so. I don't know. Where is she? And then she came to the- I'm more inclined.

I'm so over summer house. I just want to say sorry. Until it's bopping so hard. Everybody's like, I need you to watch it. I haven't really heard much.

No, I don't feel... You don't need to watch it right now. Nothing's really happening, except like Jessie asked West if he could hook up with Cierra.

Oh, and what did he say?

He was shook, and he said in front of all the other boys, too. And I think West is feeling like, no. That's really weird. Jessie and Cierra are in bed together every episode, cuddling, recapping, being best friends. So their closeness, they couldn't even be possibly closer. Who cares if they kiss at this point? They're literally so close.

Jessie's a crazy person.

Jessie is a crazy person. And I also feel like West, after the way that he went about his business, he He's not allowed to stand in the way. I know that technically it's bro code, whatever, but he just can't stand in the way.

I think if he said yes, it would really hurt Cierra's feelings.

Oh, true. But I don't know why Sierra doesn't love Jessie back. They are so...

Well, I hope she doesn't love Jessie back Because seriously, this girl needs to learn her lesson. She needs to stop hooking up with people in the summer house.

Well, maybe that's why she doesn't love him back. But I think she does love him back. They're very, very close.

And if she is going to hook up with someone, it should be Carl. Honestly, his desperate plea last summer was so sad. And he's like, the only one, while I don't find him attractive or think he would be a good partner for her. He's the only one who's not a dick. He's the only one actually looking for a relationship.

Though Jessie says he's looking for a relationship.

Oh, please.

Yeah, that's Jessie. Please.

I actually can't take him.

Yeah, but it's like you had one last summer and you loved her.

And it was a great one. You loved her.

So no, you weren't. So you're not. You were not serious.

What was the other thing I was going to say? Oh, so yeah, I'm not watching Summer House, although I did see a big conversation, maybe it was a week or two ago, about Amanda smoking pot, which I thought actually might have been interesting. Can you explain it to me?

Yeah. So Kyle, of course, in the wrong capacity shares with the group, the boys, because Amanda wasn't there hearing the conversation until she walked in. That's not good. He's talking about intimacy issues in their relationship, and that Amanda smokes pot every night that she has for two years. So it's like, they don't really get down because she's high every night. And when would they be able to do that? Which was just really disrespectful that he shared that with this bunch of like, Randos, including some new people.

Was Amanda upset because... Was he misrepresenting that she's...

It didn't sound like it. Did she disagree? No, No. So she then hears... She walks into the conversation. She can tell they're all talking about her. So she now knows they were talking about her and their sex life, which is so not cool. No, that's so not fucking cool. He was drunk when he said it, but he it ruined their week. They didn't talk all week. The next week, they had to have a big fight. He Apologize in front of the whole table for having said that to everyone. But Amanda's like, You still haven't apologized to me. Yeah, you ignored me all week. Again, going about it wrong. But then the next week, they were talking and she was like, You act like I get high every night, but I don't smoke until I take the dogs out. So that's after 10: 00. You can hang out with me before that. But not denying that she smokes every single night.

And that doesn't leave room for intimacy. Yeah. Well, obviously, she's running away from him. So the pot is not really the problem. It's like, Why am I smoking this pot? Oh, because I don't want to be with you. Yeah. Yeah, but bringing it up in front of everyone, that's really bad.

Yeah, it was just like they just keep missing one another. What were they up to?

Last night- Did they introduced anybody new? Because I remember there were new girls.

Two new girls, Bayly and Levi.

Is there a makeup girl?

A makeup girl?

I saw this girl on TikTok when they announced new people. She was like, Yeah, it's me. She was doing her makeup. She was like a TikToke who does makeup.

It wasn't Bayly. None of them are a TikToker who does makeup as far as I know.

What TikTok did I say?

Oh, Dara. We just met Dara. Oh, okay. She is an influencer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She is very beautiful. Yeah. She just came. West invited her to the singles event as everyone had to bring a single. So he was like, We used to hook up, and I'm bringing her because it didn't work out or whatever. And Someone thought that was weird. Amanda was feeling like you're bringing her around to hook up with her again in front of Sierra. Don't do it. But I don't think that's the case.

In front of Sierra? I thought we moved on from that.

No, I know. But if he's bringing someone who he has... He can't hook up with anyone in the house. Why? He just can.

No, I don't agree. We're talking about Cierra and Jessie hooking up.

But with Cierra's injured party, she could do what she wants.

No, I'm sorry. People are allowed to break up with other people and then still hook up.

No. But even last summer, when he was like...

Last summer, he was in jail. Fine. He had act right, but he's allowed to live.

I don't know if they're going to... They say he's on probation.

No, I'm sorry. He's out of jail.

He didn't even do anything that bad. He's out of jail. He's on probation. Last summer, he was in jail. This summer, he's on probation.

Last summer, he was in jail because he got famous and gave a really weird article interview and broke up with Cierra. He was allowed to break up with Sierra, but he wasn't allowed to talk about it. And so, yes, you're in jail and you have to act right for a summer. The cuffs are off. I'm sorry. This is ridiculous.

But anyways, I don't think him and Dara are... He said in his interview, he's like, I'm friends with a lot of my exes. They're really cool people. That's why I like them to begin with. It doesn't mean we can't have a friendship. I think based on the previews, she has something going on with someone else in the house. Okay, good. But yeah, she seems cool. We didn't get to know much of her yet.

Got it. Okay.

Because I had seen a TikTok. And then boys, we have Ben, the Australian who was also the Bachelor of Australia.

Oh, he was on The Bachelor?

He was on The Bachelor. Oh, you're kidding. And he's really cute. I think he must be so insanely charming because the way they talk about him. Oh my gosh. Kj, who's also really cute. He's a friend of West's.

I think I met him in the first episode. Skateboarder?

Skateboard model? Yeah, whatever. Skateboarder/model. And I think that's it for the boys right now. All right. Plus the usual suspects. All right. But no, last night, nothing really that major happened. Just like, Wes, Jessie, he kept me hooked up with Sierra. And then I think like, Wes is going to identify that he still has feelings for Sierra.

Okay. I am rooting for them. You are? Yeah. They We were a real couple. The fact that he just got famous so quickly, I think, really messed with his head, and he handled it like an extremely immature man would do.

And then we need.

I give Grace because I do feel he was like... I believe his feelings for Sierra were really genuine.

Yeah, but his desire to meet girls at watch parties was more genuine.

I could get him thinking, This is only going to happen to me once. I could see somebody who- It was like, right person, wrong time. He's not the smartest guy ever. I could see him making a mistake like that. And if she wants to forgive him, I'll allow Grace for that. But if she doesn't want to forgive him, I allow Grace for that, too.

Oh, okay. Very interesting. Yeah.

Because I thought at the time, they were a really nice couple, and I felt like it was real.

But now Jessie is in the way.

I think Jessie is a crazy person. Nobody should be with him.

He's crazy.

If you didn't see what he did to Lexie last summer and want nothing to do with him, oh my God, I would never be with someone like that. Honestly, what he did to Lexie was borderline evil. I agree. You literally forced her into a relationship and then did not protect her on TV.

Yucky. Yeah.

Any girl who sees that and is like, Yeah, that's my man.

And whatever happens to you is on you. Gaslit her into thinking you and Cierra are brother and sister, and now you want to kiss your sister. Yes.

Jessie showed women everywhere who he is last season. Whoever he dates next- People didn't see it. What happens to you is on you.

People don't see it that way. Okay, fine.

So you date him. See what happens.

Yeah, no, I'm with you. He's crazy. And he keeps saying in his confessionals, he's looking for a relationship. Liar. He wants something serious. Liar. And West is the one who doesn't want that.

Wrong. Because West can be tied down by the right woman.

You think so?

I do. Jesse's crazy.

Yeah.

You may well start watching. It sounds like my opinions are not going to be liked.

Yeah, I'll let you know when it picks up a little bit.

I'm sick of my opinions not being liked. Do you know what I mean? Why is whatever I think about a show always the hot take?

I just feel like we really see- We're elevated. We see beneath the surface. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe because we're in the industry and we know.

We have extra life experience that colors our opinions. I'm just sick of it. People are like, Oh, once again, Jack and Claudia with a bad take. What show are you guys watching? I feel crazy.

Yeah.

Maybe I won't watch.

But that's it. That's your show.

Yeah, it was a good one.

It's our show. We did it.

For you.

For you.

Thank you for listening to the Toast, the Millennial Morning Show, where we deliver the fast-time stories that you need to drive your money to your front. I like how we've become the Millennial Morning Show again. Our episodes, we are a morning show now.

We're so early now. I like that. Yeah. I think-We want to be earlier.

When we were in our 20s, we couldn't be the morning show. I'm sorry. But now I feel like we're sitting at a desk. We're back to being a morning show. We haven't really taken that on yet, and I digested that.

It's just a commitment to waking up. It took us a while to shed it. We literally changed the name of the show.

I know. Can we go back?

No. I think this was so freeing.

Yeah, no. And like, some days we can't be the morning.

And we are like, just the toast.

Yes, but I- We're the toast of the town. I think it's exciting that we've reverted back to the original form of our show, sitting at desks.

Dropping in the morning.

And being newsbased.

And factual, as always. As always.

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