Transcript of Italia, Y'all!: Thursday, February 12th, 2026 New

Good morning, girlies. It's The Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast-fired things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's The Toast.

They sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Thursday. That feels like a Friday.

No, It really feels like a Friday.

In the sense that I don't think that we should work tomorrow. Yes, I agree.

I just feel like there's so much happening today. It's like a very celebratory day, and tomorrow just feels like...

Like extra.

And we have a long weekend because it's the weekend of the President.

Oh, my God, I forgot that it's a bank holiday on Monday, and of course, we will be honoring it.

Of course, we would never not honor- Let a bank holiday go. Our President, our Banks.

It's such an important historical day. Yeah. Maybe we should take a trip to Mount Rushmore.

Maybe we should take off Tuesday, too.

Just to be really honoring. Respectful. Yeah, very Charlie Pooth of us.

And maybe the Friday before. But we didn't, and we're doing this show tomorrow. No, no.

Just one day, and it's enough.

It's also like tomorrow is Harry's birthday, Harry's fourth birthday. So I'm already thinking of tomorrow as a fun celebration day, and it's just giving weekend. Right. Yeah. It's a freaking weekend.

But it is Thursday, and that's okay.

And it is what it is.

It is what it is till it ain't anymore.

Are those real lyrics?

What do you mean? You think I just made that up?

No, I just want to confirm.

Yeah, it's a Casey Musgrave song, so take it up with Casey.

I love her, but that's not great.

I know. I love her, too.

It is what it is till it ain't anymore. It's not.

I believe that's from the Patch of Material album. Her greatest work. Yeah. It's just funny that everybody's out here thinking they know Casey Musgraves because they listened to Golden Hour and then dropped off. But I've been knowing her, and I will take credit, and I know you're going to argue with me on this, but historically in the family, I introduced everyone to Casey Musgraves when Mary Goeran came out. Anything you want to say to that?

I'm not going to agree with you wholeheartedly, but I'm not going to dispute you.

I remember where we were.

I don't remember how... I don't have a conflicting tale. I just don't remember it being you, but if it's you, it's you.

I also introduced the family to Luke Holmes, but nobody wants to give me credit for that.

See that one? I I will dispute you on that.

So when we hosted the CMA Red Carpet for the first time, he had just released When It Rains It Pores, and I was telling you guys about this Cutie Little Redhead who had a song, and it was making you- You think he's a redhead?

That's how you think of him?

Is he not?

I don't think of him as a redhead.

When I think of like, famous redheads throughout history. Oh, Luke Holmes is one of you. You don't know that?

I never thought of it.

Am I just making stuff up? No, I guess- This is like when Taylor Strecker came on the podcast and was like, Julia Roberts, famous redhead. And I said, What the fuck are you talking about? What hair color would you consider Luke Holmes to have?

No, let me just look a picture of him. But he's one of those brunettes that has red hair.

No, he's more than that. He's red.

You don't think he's a brunet?

Oh. Luke Holmes' hair color is generally considered dark brown. He has a fully red beard. I don't know what ChatGPT is talking about. I'm right. He's a red head.

That's so funny.

What do you consider? Look at the photos. What do you say? He's not.

Yes. He's not. He has a fully red beard. What the hell are you guys talking about? But look at his hair. You said red head.

Okay, look at that second picture on Google. That's from the... This one? No, no, no. Top. That's from the when he was- He's wearing a hat, so you can't see his hair color. But you see his fully red beard.

No, but there are men who have brown hair and red beards, and they're not considered red heads.

There are men who have brown hair and red-ish beards. His beard is the same color as your hair.

But they are not considered red heads.

I don't care what is considered what. I have eyes.

I'm sorry. This is my community, and I think I speak for everyone. I say I would love include him. It's your what? It's my community. If he wants to be considered a redhead, I would let him in, no problem.

Luke Holmes, what do you consider yourself?

I'll have to compare with Shannon. We are the council women.

You are the Vultori.

Whenever something happens, in the redhead world, and there are things- There's stuff happening. Stuff happens. And I know stuff happens because Shannon and I discuss.

Okay, what's the most recent thing you guys discussed at a Vultori meeting?

Oh, at a redhead's meeting? Let me search on my phone.

Last night was twilight themed tonight on Mass Singer.

Oh, we need to talk about who got eliminated.

I know. Billy Ray was... Oh, sorry. Spoiler alert. Was eliminated on last night's episode. I think everybody pretty much guessed that. And the thing is, I need to keep tuning in because I have to fucking find out who Picasso is. What?

My conversation with Shannon. I just searched redhead on my phone. So here's what comes up between me and Shannon. Me. Yes, it's more painful for fair skin, and then everything hurts more for redheads. She goes, I just assume redheads have shit end of the stick anyways. I said, It's harder and more painful for redheads. You know that, right?

Your favorite statistic is there.

She said, Such redhead things.

So you weren't really talking about major current events at the most reason?

No, but I think when we were both experiencing childbirth, there are things to know as a redhead, and that was in the fall.

So what's the biggest drama in the redhead community?

When a famous redhead dies her hair or when somebody tries to join. No, when somebody tries to join, not a big deal. Everybody's always dying their hair. A famous redhead dying their hair is drama in That's so crazy to me.

Does it hurt your feelings?

No, no. I just can't understand it. Yeah.

It might be how I feel or felt when a fellow fat person decided to lose weight. Perhaps. Being left behind. Like, what, you don't love us anymore? Perhaps.

Then also sometimes there's a couple of iconic redheads that Shannon and I feel we keep tabs on. Okay, who?

Madalaine Petsch?

No.

Who are famous redheads? Julia Roberts, of course.

But not even. Not even. We have Ila Fish or Amy Adams. Yeah, of course. The classic.

But I believe one of Amy Adams is not a real redhead. One of them isn't. But do you care? Are you an authenticator?

No. You know what? If I never knew, then you're a redhead. You're the elk of a redhead. Because there are also people who are the elk of redheads, where it's like... Like Jason Marie. But she's not. But I consider her a redhead.

Okay. That's very big of you. You welcome everyone with open arms. I do.

I love that. She does such justice for the community. She makes it so cool. Okay. So yeah, Shannon and I have to get together for our quarterly redhead review.

So we're watching Olympics last night. Okay. So much going on. Is anyone familiar? What the hell was his name? Jason Stolls.

We were talking about breastfeeding. That's why I was talking about painful for redheads. Got it.

Jason Stolls? Justin Stolls? Oh my God.

I was hoping for his package. I only know Stuhl Drum.

Of course. And Utah. So he's a speed skater, and he won gold last night for America. And they were just telling the story. It was literally Ice Princess. So He grew up in very, very rural Wisconsin. I watch things now as a parent. I'm always looking at his mother, right? And grew up in very rural Wisconsin on a pond. And you know, tale as old as time, the pond froze, and him and his siblings were like, What should we do? And they literally made a rink, and he just fell in love with speed skating. He lived 40 miles from the nearest facility. He was training in this basement. His parents drove him every day, 40 miles, 40 miles. And then watching him win gold, I was literally crying for the mom. She must be so proud. He was so cute. You know when they give them a pack? All of this They air it in primed time, but it all happened already. But I try not to spoil anything for myself. So you know when they're airing the package that he definitely did good. I was getting Hyped. I'm so on to Peacock, by the way.

I know them. And they just waste so much of the coverage. I put on the coverage and why am I watching a men's hockey game of two countries that aren't even... It wasn't America, but it wasn't big ones either. I'm like, Girl, get out of here.

But they've got to cover.

There's so many things to cover.

Who were the teams playing? Maybe they are really good teams that will end up in the finals.

I don't know, but it was annoying.

It wasn't the big hockey team.

No, it wasn't like Russia versus Canada. What's that game? Miracle. Miracle? It wasn't political.

Miracle on 34.

It wasn't political. It was like Sweden. Someone literally neutral. Oh, no. Switzerland?

Both.

They both are so lovely.

And neutral.

And neutral, yeah. Which I just want to say.

That's you.

Switzerland ate down with that neutrality thing. Yeah, I feel that. Sometimes you just don't want to get involved. Yeah. It's like, this is not... This is not my plate.

But sometimes don't you feel called?

Yeah, of course. I think Switzerland famously turned their Jews away when they were escaping. For sure. For sure.

So much for not getting involved.

It's an imperfect system, okay? It's an imperfect system, of course. What else can I tell you guys about before we dive? Actually, the stories are really- There are a lot of stories today. I know. And I've personally followed down the rabbit hole about the Casey Wasserman thing, which I'm sure we're going to be talking about.

I have started to enter Epstein reels. I'm getting a lot of Epstein content from the files, and it's not a good place to be.

I don't know if I said this on the podcast, but I was talking to you about it. I was so annoyed. I was reading this thing, a carousel on Instagram, and then Ruby woke up from his nap and I lost the carousel forever. But it was all the Bravo, Lebron's Bravo adjacent people mentioned in the Epstein files. Now, almost all of them, it was fairly innocuous. Nothing really Really, none of them met Epstein.

Nothing associated or an accomplice.

But some guy was emailing Jeffrey about how he had dinner last night and met a guy named Whitney, who's putting together a show called Serena. Sounded amazing.

Yeah, about like, Russian princesses living in New York.

So Whitney never met Epstein. The only one who's involved in a way that's a little close is Carol.

Radswell. Also, Annabelle from Ladies of London.

Annabelle from Ladies of London, who now... It's so easy to look back. She's She has passed. She has passed, and now it's easy to look back on her death as being... But she was asking Jeffrey for money. She was like, he was like an investor. Like, really weird. And talking a lot about girls, like young girls. Her emails were bad.

Her emails were bad. I would put her in bad category.

Maricio Umansky was in there, but so unfair.

On a huge list of business people. Yeah.

Here are a bunch of business people who's networth. It was so unfair. Maricio is not in Appstein Piles.

Caroline Stanbury was in there in a way that I did not think was suspicious. Me neither. But I But it was also without context, it's hard to understand, but they were just talking about her.

Yeah. It's also crazy how frequently these people who were doing really bad things were emailing. Why don't you just call them?

Yeah. But one, I think they thought they could get away with it forever because they did and they were.

And they still, by the way, they still get away with it.

No one's gone to prison. No one's been arrested. Even the names who you know are the names, the obvious ones who are obviously- West Lexner.

Lex Westner.

Lex Wexner. Yeah. Yeah.

Nothing.

Bill Gates.

No, no. Literally everyone.

And I think that- And it's like, I was watching an interview with his ex-wife, and she was asked about it.

Melinda? . And it's like, no one's being asked about it except Melinda.

No, and she's not even denying it. Really? She was just like, it brings up a lot of painful memories.

I didn't see that.

Yeah, she was with NPR.

Yikes.

Yeah. Like, okay. And then he's just going to go talk somewhere and tell us what to do.

Right. That's so crazy. No, it's really... It's very upsetting.

Yeah.

But the The amount of people, like just... Sorry, all back to the Wasserman thing, which I started seeing some things about on TikTok a couple of days ago, but it's only recently become more of a big story because some bigger names are talking about it, which we'll get into. And then, of course, so sad, James Van der Wijk. Is that a story?

Yes, it is.

Like, really so upsetting. Sometimes a celebrity death just hits you sideways.

Yeah.

So lots to discuss today. Lots to discuss today.

What are the other stories? I have one fun Olympic story of just an Olympic fun fact of a crazy thing that's Okay. And you didn't know that was happening. So I like to add one of those a day. Okay. Well, if I tell you all them right now, doesn't that spoil the fun?

Yeah, but like, sometimes it's nice to know what you're getting into. Okay.

Like a little teaser. A little teaser. Okay. But I'm going to make it super teasey. Okay. Okay. New face of Skims. A hot bombshell has entered the Skims campaign. Okay.

Oh, speaking of bombshells, I don't know if you saw big news. Iris and T. J, who, by the way, are still together, Iris got her lip filler dissolved. Iris. I love when... And I say this as somebody who got lip filler two weeks ago. I love when girls get their lip filler dissolved. I feel like it's a real coming-of-age story.

But do you feel like getting lip filler and then getting it dissolved, you don't look like the same person who never got it all. You always leave a little bit in there. It's the best way to do lip filler is to have lip filler and get it dissolved.

A thousand % because you still leave a little bit in there.

Yeah, and you have this new puffed up shade. You're not the person that you were before you got them.

No, but I feel like we all remember where we were and Breal Beermann got her lip filler dissolved. It was a cultural reset. Kylie, Brooks just did it.

It's such a- But they still have bigger lips than when they started.

Of course. And that's the whole point.

Yeah, but I feel like the look now is get filler and dissolve it. Not just skip it. Iris looks amazing. Not just skip it entirely.

Oh, no, no, no. Iris looks amazing.

Oh, I have to see. Yeah. So do you feel like we could dive in? I don't know.

Except that I actually am so... I'm becoming a moisture queen. By the way, my hands and My ankles. What am I talking about? What are they called, the bottom of my feet? Heels had been so cracked. I haven't been on top of my moisturization because I thought being in Florida, we didn't have winter skin. No, you definitely do. And today's sponsor, Gold Bond, has been keeping me in check. I don't know if you guys know. I heard other postpartum mamas talking about this. Do you know you're more likely to have dry skin postpartum? As if we don't have enough to deal with? Of course.

And if you're breastfeeding, it takes all the moisture out of your body. My hands get dry, my nail beds get dry, my elbows are dry, dry elbow. Nobody wants to see that.

I'm now that person with hand cream. Actually, I did hand cream. We were playing Majong yesterday, and I whipped out my Gold Bond hand cream, and I was asking the girlies if they wanted. And everyone said, no. They're like, It'll make the tile slippery. Can I tell you, I feel like I didn't play good because I was really slippery with mine.

You hand cream too close to the sun.

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And with Majan, everyone's looking at our hand.

It's so true. I've been staying on top of my manicure.

I can't have a cracked knuckle.

It's so true. Flaking, and then you leave flakes on the plage I'm at.

No, don't be flaked. But I also just want to say I endorse taking a moment's break during the show to rub our hands. I love that. I feel like I'm at the spa. Yes. And it smells good. As much as one could be at the spa in the middle of a podcast.

And life hack, you don't really have to shower because you smell so good from your cream.

Sure.

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All right, let's dive into the stories. Okay, our first story is some sad news. As the before mentioned, James Van der Beek, star of Dawson's Creek, has passed away at the age of 48. So James Van der Beek was diagnosed with colorectal cancer in 2023 and made his diagnosis public in 2024. Yesterday, his family shared the news with this statement on Instagram saying, Our beloved James David Van der Beek passed peacefully this morning. He met his final days with courage, faith, and grace. There's so much to share regarding his wishes, love for humanity, and the sacredness of time. Those days will come. For now, we ask for a peaceful privacy as we grieve our loving husband, father, son, brother, and friend.

Stop. I'm so upset. So he has five kids? Six. Six kids. I think we haven't seen him publicly a lot since he announced his diagnosis. And every time we saw him, he looked like he was withering away. So I don't think it's a huge surprise, but it's so sad. I don't I don't watch Dawson's Creek, so that's not how I came to James Vanderbeek. I think a lot of people came to him to Dawson's Creek. I came to him to Don't Trust the B. Don't Trust the B.

He was huge. Which I want to say is his greatest work. I know. I agree. I know he's known for Dawson, but him and Don't Trust the B, if you haven't ever seen it, treat yourself. Such a treat. First of all, it's an amazing show, and he plays himself, and it's just comedy gold. Yeah.

Then a lot of people came to him on Dancing with the stars. He was so popular. Really just an America's sweetheart. This is so sad. I saw Becatobin today. Shared. They started to go fund me for his family because he has six kids and leaving behind a wife to take care of all that. It had reached over a million dollars and so many celebrities donated, which obviously I'm obnoxious. I wanted to see.

I think- Yeah, because also, apparently, he wasn't making money from Dawson's Creek. He's not making the money that you would think that he would make. Oh, he was on a show that's syndicated and has a million seasons. You would think it's like mailbox money, and they are not in that position.

As of this morning, it's $1. 4 million. And then the people who donated, Jonathan Chew, that's John Wicked, $10,000. Gio Siri, $10,000. I don't know. A lot of other people donated $10,000, but I don't know them. I'm only saying the people that I know.

Anonymous, too.

A bunch of anonymous, a bunch of people whose names I don't know. Then I saw Zoe Saldana donated $2,500 a month, and it says a green thing that says monthly. Oh, wow. It's every month. The celebrities are getting flack for not donating enough and posting about it. It's like, Well, why don't you give it? All that to say, there's now over a million dollars, and she's now a single mom of six kids, so I'm not going to clown on the celebrities in this moment.

No. Not today? No, that's very nice that everyone's doing that. I think he's someone who's just beloved, period. I know. Everybody loves him.

Did we see him in person?

I remember. I saw... Yeah. When we were in LA. I hadn't watched- Margot and I were really excited because we were a big fan.

I hadn't watched Don't Trust the Bee yet. So you guys chased him down the street. And I. And he was nice, yeah?

No, because our behavior was off. You acted like an animal? No, we chased him down the street, like you said, he was with his family, and he just wasn't interested in being a celebrity in that moment. And I don't hold it against him. No, of course not. As I've grown up, I can recognize- You realize you were in the wrong. That he didn't owe me anything in that moment. A thousand %. No, and I feel like- And it doesn't change how I feel about him. If anything, I'm just like, okay, so he's more interested in being a father than being a celebrity. A committed father.

Go off, king. I completely agree. Such an upsetting way for this story to have ended. And just sad, really sad. Yeah. I feel really sad for his wife.

Me too, and his children.

I know. They're so cute. They have this troupe. Are they all girls? No. But they're all platinum blonde.

Yeah, they all look like him.

They look like the Von Trapp family. So cute. Yeah. Really sad.

Really sad. Are you ready for our next story? The teaser that I mentioned, new face of Skims. I can't believe you didn't see this. I Kylie Jenner strips down for a new Skims Underwear campaign. So Skims did the most yesterday, announcing new everyday cotton collection for Skims. Kim posted a little behind the scenes blog. She's trying out her content creation.

She's been doing that on TikTok, too.

Kylie is the new face of this new collection.

So it seems as though in the last month, Kylie decided to show up for work. She also did a Lemme campaign. Right. And I feel like she's been... All the sisters do each other's stuff every once in a while, but not really Kylie. Yeah. And I feel like maybe they had to talk with her or something because now she's done two.

Interesting. Maybe she wants another plane. Maybe she's hustling.

I don't feel like that's how she gets another plane by doing campaigns for her sisters. I feel like you It's like the day rate.

Maybe she needs them to watch her kids or something so she can go on a trip with Kimmy. She needs something from her sisters, and that's why she's now done two campaigns. What would make Margot do something?

She is Margot, and I guess, I don't know, But Kylie's in a unique position where she doesn't really need anything from her sisters.

No, she doesn't. She doesn't need to use them for clout. She's more interesting and famous than she's ever been.

I feel like with the Skims thing, she could just also have wanted a bombshell campaign. This is very good PR for Kylie and her body.

Yeah, it's good PR for Kylie and her looks and her ability.

I don't know what she got out of the Lemmy thing.

I think it was a Kylie Cosmetics thing, though. Was it? I think so. And that's like, they need... They need to stay up. Not saying they're irrelevant. They need to stay up in the culture.

Oh, What was it?

Like a beauty gummy?

Kylie Cosmetics, you're right. A skin one. Speaking of actually, she's had the craziest thing this morning. I saw the craziest ad for Lemmy today with the influencer Mikaela Nguera, your favorite.

My favorite influencer to hear about from you.

She did Let Me Pur, which is the sexy one.

So you knew it was going to be- How did she say it?

It's great. Once you hear what she says, you're not going to care.

Okay, ready? Can you play it?

I have an embarrassing confession. And if you're my grandma or my mom, and I know you watch my videos, if you could just scroll on this one, that would be great. I love her. I have never been eaten out. I know. When I asked all my friends this, their jaws dropped. I'm going to tell you why. I am so terrified that I'm going to taste like shit. I'm just being honest. But in the new year, I'm all about trying new things, okay? And when I saw Let Me Pur was viral, this is a vaginal probiotic gummy, I was like, what?

They are not paying I don't know what they paid her, but it's not enough.

Mind you, she's married.

Is that viral?

I mean, it has...

I'm in shock.

Where is this video even from?

I didn't know. I thought it was just going to be the way that she said it.

Okay. It has three and a half million views, which for her is not... The video surrounding it have 2 million, 5 million, 8 million, 2 million, 1 million. So it's a very high performing ad. Okay, this is from two weeks ago. I don't know how I'm just seeing it. The comments, no amount of money would make me say this. Somebody being like, But you have a husband. The other one, You couldn't torture this information out of me. Somebody else, The rent could not have been this high. Yeah. I just was shocked. It's not breaking news because I guess it's a two week old video.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. Maybe she wants a plane. Like, Would you do it for a plane?

No. There are a lot of things that I would do for money. Actually, I have a campaign coming up that you guys are going to know exactly what I'm talking about. It's very much like Lisa Rinna doing Depends. I'm very Lisa Rinna like that. I'm a hustler. I do draw the line at certain things, and I actually... You couldn't have paid me to make a video like that. But shout out to Lemmy.

She also could have done a video for Lemmy.

She didn't have to be so honest.

No.

Yeah. Sorry, how did we get here? Oh, Lemmy. It just reminded me. I saw it this morning. It was one of the first things I saw when I woke up and I was like, Wow, okay, we're going there. No. One thing about Mikaela Naguera, she will always be famous. She knows what she's doing.

Wow. Well, Kylie is the new face of Skims. His pictures are insane.

Oh, Timothy is just like...

She seriously never looked better. She looks drop dead gorgeous.

This is like a modern version of becoming a Victoria's Secret angel, which if Victoria's Secret was what it was, like Kylie would have been one. Yeah. I can understand her doing this. I don't understand her doing the let me thing, but I'm just saying they had a family talk. That's how I interpreted this collaboration.

Well, I like it. I like when Kylie's with her sister.

I like when they all do their other... They don't do it... Oh, my God. I saw this video. I think I sent it to you.

About Chloe.

About Good American. It's not confirmed or whatever. It's just purely conjecture, but it seems like she's not involved with Good American anymore.

Yeah, she hasn't posted for Good American in months. She posts mostly like, fabletics ads now.

She's very involved with- Which is a direct competitor of Good American recently launched at leisure.

Right. The followings, people unfollowed each other.

Yeah. The Emma greed of it all. Can somebody with insider knowledge, let me know what is Chloe Kardashian's- Involvement in Good American.

It seems very limited at the moment. Yeah. Maybe her contract ended.

How can it be a contract for a company you started? That's what it looked like.

But maybe she started it with Emma, but maybe she was more of a face.

A face. Kind of how people forget, but when Fabletics launched, it was Kate Hudson's company. You guys remember? It was like Kate Hudson's launching Athletia. I don't think she's been involved for many years. She definitely got a percentage of the company.

I thought she was still in it. Right.

I think it might be one of those. Like launching off the back of someone.

Yeah. I think that maybe that has a term. If someone ever wants to get out of it or you can re-up it.

Yeah. Maybe Chloe felt like it was holding her back. But Good American Gang, all that stuff. That was so Chloe.

Good Crew. What was it?

The Good Gang. Is that what it was called?

The Good Guys?

No.

The Girls?

Yes. Good American- Good Squad. Yeah. Good Squad? Yeah, that sounds right.

Yeah. They all sound right. Yeah. I feel like we'll find out more in time because someone was just onto it. The reel that you saw, the TikTok, it's one person putting it together. But eventually we'll probably know more. Yeah.

And shout out to my favorite creator who put it together. I feel like that is Georgie.

You have a favorite creator? Yeah.

She's like, British, and she doesn't give a fuck. She just makes a lot of pop culture content, and she does deep dives on... She's She's British. She's like, British aristocrats. She does a lot of royal stuff. That's how I found her. And she was the one who put together this Skims thing.

Well, Emma's British now.

Maybe that's how she landed there.

Maybe that's how she got involved. The British connection. But I find that some of those people who make those videos about pop culture and stuff, they're so off base. Yeah, right. They're insane.

You would like this girl? She has our vibe.

And is she on base?

No, she just always gives like... Yeah, she's on base.

She's on base because I'm down for you want to do a green scene. You want to Yeah, it's green screen content. Sure. They're so off base with some of these things. A lot of times, yeah. Like, worst takes, worst predictions. Yeah, agreed, agreed, agreed. Get it together, girls.

I only follow good ones. I only follow good ones.

Get it together, girls.

Agreed.

Because it's interesting stuff.

It's my favorite type of culture content.

Yeah, yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Speaking of pop culture, Dorinda Medley is set to join E's Roni Reboot after Jill Zara's firing. So, Dorinda is now joining the Golden Life. Is that what we're calling it right today?

Golden Coast.

The Golden Life. Okay. Featuring the original cast of Roni that was set to feature Jill Zara, Sonja Morgan, Luanne, Ramona Singer, and Kelly Benzema. I don't know why she's not here.

Oh, I knew that. I feel like they're positioning it due to the timing. It's like she's replacing Jill. But what I heard, she's been in talks. You don't get cast on a TV show in one day. I think she's been in talks to do it for a while, and I think they're trying to continue the news story.

The momentum.

Flush out the Jill thing. And make it a positive again. But Dorinda doesn't live in Florida.

Well, she must be getting her ducks in order. She could probably spend... They'll probably shoot for a couple months. She could spend a couple months down here.

I hope she gives more to the show than she's giving on Traitors. She's like, Oh.

But it's funny because Traitors, I feel, has been positive for her because I feel like her going into the season, she's never been- She hasn't said anything vile and nasty to anyone.

She says the lowest thing.

I don't know if they're allowed to drink on set.

Right. Remember when she was making fun of Tinsley for having to have a baby via IVF? And so she's like, were you in your turkey base? Like the worst fucking thing you could say. Yeah. Yeah. We haven't had a lot of that, Dorinda. Although I do think that's why people like her.

And so now, especially in the absence of all the interesting characters, we're rooting for Dorinda by default.

Oh, well, also she's the One of the few remaining ones who's familiar to us on traders. I don't know Natalie. I don't know Tara and Johnny, even though now watching the Olympics, I'm so rooting for them. Yeah. Yeah, we are rooting for Dorinda just because she's there. By default, yeah. By the way, they finally dropped the files.

We watched.

I watched. I've never... I don't think I'm the only one who felt this way, and maybe it's because I was waiting for it for so long that it felt so disappointing. But they did it differently than they've been doing all the other ones. And there is a theory, people conspirizing that Rob told Colton or Colton knew Rob, Colton knew something. And I agree with those people now, because for literally every person who's been eliminated since the season started, they filmed them finding out who the traitors are by flipping a playing card over and it has a person's picture on it. They did this like, spooky thing with Colton, like, the spirits tell me who it's, Candice. And we don't actually see his face when they say the words Candice and Rob. It's giving set up. It's giving fake.

Yeah. Also, we didn't get his guesses.

Yeah. Like, it was just the way they've been doing it is perfect. Literally perfect. I don't know why they decided to switch it up with the player people were anticipating most.

And it's also like, when you're going to do this video, you don't need to cut anything. Put the camera on them.

No edits.

Ask who you think that they is.

Yeah, sure. Ask who you think that they is.

He will say it and then have him open the cards and let us see his Just press record. I don't need an edit. I don't need you to put their pictures. I know what the traitors are. I don't need to see a full screen picture of Candice and a full screen picture of Rob. I need to see Colton seeing a full screen picture of Candice and a full screen picture of Rob. Just put the camera on them, okay? Yeah. Doing too much.

Completely agree. So I'm now like a cult and truther, and I think that there's something weird going on.

Interesting. I'm not convinced yet.

You know what? If they continue to make the videos of the future murdered people. Different? Yeah. Then maybe they're covering their tracks, and maybe I'm not, maybe I'm not convinced. But if they go back to just doing it the normal way, shut down.

Yeah. Those videos are a little, like a mess. It's a great idea, so I didn't want to knock it, but like... Oh, you hate them? No, no, no. The execution, we never get the facial. They chop it up too much.

Yeah, agreed. They're doing too much in the editing bay, and they need to just seriously press record.

It's true.

You're right. You're right.

That's how I feel. I'm glad that we're shining light on this issue.

Yeah. So by Colton. And welcome, Dorinda.

Welcome, Dorinda, to the Golden Life. I had heard that she was shopping, and it was going to be released like a Blue Stone Manor type, Vanderpump Rules type show.

Show.

Yeah.

Which I'm personally not into. I don't think she has what it takes to be Elisa Van der Pol. No.

To be at the helm of the show, I think she's very much a supporting character. But I also like Blue Stone Manor for me personally. I know. Never does it. That episode every year was not for me. No, I liked the episodes. I watched it, but they weren't making it for me. There was a viewer who it's for.

They did an ultimate girls trip at Blue Stone Manor, right? I feel like we've done enough.

Yeah. I think this is a better-Better fit for Dorinda, except that she doesn't live in Florida.

And up until this point, it was organic. Now it's just giving TV show.

It's giving TV show. Let's come, let's make a scene, and then we'll go home.

Rent a fake apartment. She's going to be like...

Or maybe she'll stay with one of the ladies. That would be cute.

Oh, actually, that would be cute. She is really friendly with Lou-Anne, right?

And Sonia.

Yeah.

Who stayed with Sonia Tinsley? That was crazy.

That she stayed with her. Right. At least it was real.

But why did she stay with her? Why couldn't she just get a place?

Because she She was like, Coming back to New York.

I'm sorry. That's insane.

Yeah, no, I know. She's literally like a wealthy socialite.

And she's going to live with her hooky friend.

That was the best TV. But that's insane. Maybe they encouraged them to do it because it made and living in close quarters with Sonia does make for interesting television. Yeah.

But in hindsight, why would she- It was not your grown ass woman having a sleepover. Yeah. Like, she can just get... It's really easy to rent a place in New York. Short term, long term. Hotel. Whatever you need.

Stay with maybe a family member. I don't know.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah, except we have a sip of your water.

Oh, you're loving my water today.

Yeah. She's going to finish most of it so that she gives it to me and she won't have to touch my lips.

I would like to have a sip, but not the one immediately after.

Are you going to be drinking this again or is it mine now?

No, I'll be drinking it again. I have to waterfall. I've been having a lot of headaches. Thanks for asking. So I've been having electrolytes. It really helps.

Okay, so.

So, yeah, take a small sip because Now you hear what I'm going through.

One small sip for turd kind.

It's giving like another product placement at, but it's not. She was just thirsty.

This is not an avertisment.

She was just thirsty, even though she has a water over there.

Yeah, but yours has electrolytes in it. Yeah. It's a little funky on my arm. I'm having a tough time. Oh, no. Yeah.

What happened?

I'm not sure. I just think my big body was on my arm all night, and now I'm in pain. I'm Except, Slay Mama had a 96 sleep score. How many mamas of an eight-month-old do you know that has a 96 sleep score? That's insane. I know. Two days in a row.

That's insane.

Yeah, that's my boy right there.

King Roo.

If you've ever wondered, Should I I'm a sleep trainer. Just look at my sleep score. No, we have different...

Actually- The thing is, you can't put me in a box. I'm a sleep trainer and a co-sleeper.

But I feel like when it comes to parenting, we do most of the same stuff. I I follow basically a lot of what you do. But I just draw the line at not sleeping through the night. So I did do sleep training.

But you're just blinded by your own experience that it went so successfully. The sleep training? Yeah. And that Rue was just a great sleeper.

Yeah. Okay. So you're saying you had a bad experience with sleep training?

No, not really successful. You know what I mean? But I endorse both. I know these two communities at war. I can bring everyone together because I do both.

I'm not at war. I just like mine better.

No, but there are people who it's like co-sleeping the sleep training.

You know, and if you're a co-sleeper, you think sleep training is evil. If you're a sleep trainer, you think co-sleeping is dangerous. Like, yeah, they judge each other. I don't judge. I don't judge anyone.

No. We can hold space for two things because I endorse both. There's a different time for different things.

Yeah, so all I have to say, 96 Sleepscore.

Yeah. But I just feel like Ruby's the... Even if you didn't sleep training him, he wouldn't be sleeping through the night because he's just like a king like that. King Roo.

That is true.

You know?

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Artists are joining Chaperone and exiting the Wasserman Agency. So fall out over the federal government's files on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein continues in Hollywood after the CEO of a major talent agency was named in a recently released batch of documents. Several musical artists have cut ties with Sports and Entertainment Talent Agency, Wasserman, after the files showed that its CEO, Casey Wasserman, corresponded with Epstein's co-conspirator, Ghislaine Maxwell in the early 2000s. After a singer, Bethany Cacentino published a letter on February fifth, demanding Wasserman's resignation, several other high-profile artists, including Chaperone, announced that they have cut ties with the agency.

So Wasserman, actually, Ben even knew what this was. It's a huge sports agency. That's how they got their client list.

And Chaperone is with the sports agency?

Well, now it's a full-fledged agency, but they're really known for athletes. So I saw it because Abby Wamback, former soccer player- Yeah, that's where I first saw it, too. She posted on her Instagram, I'm out. I don't mess with this. And then I heard that also Chapel Roon did it. But a shout out to that girl, Bethany, I just want to say, because I saw her statement. She's a very small artist. I saw that she posted a statement a week ago, and she's someone who has a lot to lose. You need a good agent. Abby Wamback, Chapel Roon, they will find another agent. It's still really commendable that they did it. But shout out to that girl who did it first, and she has so much to lose, and she's obviously a scrupled person. So this is so crazy. I was not familiar at all with the Wasserman Agency or the Wasserman behind Wasserman. And so he's this mega businessman. He's also the chairman of the LA Olympics.

I know. I had seen that the chairman of the LA Olympics was implicated in the Epstein files.

And there's been a lot of calls to have him resigned from his agency, have him resigned from the Olympics. Now, it's his agency. He doesn't have to leave if he doesn't want to. But the Olympics, that's our thing. It's a collective.

It's the warmth of collectivism. Yeah, and someone should be able to fire him. But for his part, he put out a statement saying, He did. I deeply regret my correspondence with Galena Maxwell, which took place over two decades ago, long before her horrific crimes came to light, he said, adding that, as is well documented, I went on a humanitarian trip as part of a delegation with the Clinton Foundation in 2002 on the Epstein's train.

He's throwing everyone under the bus with him.

It's The Clintons are there. It's not getting better. No, I know. He said, I am terribly sorry for having any association with either of them. He is also a trustee of the Clinton Foundation and the chairman of the 2028 LA Olympic Games Organizing Committee. Several LA City Council members have called on him to resign from the post. The LA Times reported earlier this month about that, and he has not been charged in any criminal cases against Epstein and Maxwell.

I want to say his particular emails, there are people's emails who are very incriminating.

That doctor that were telling me about?

Not only the doctor from UCLA, but also, I feel like a good example is Peter Thomas Roth. Oh, sorry, you're talking about Dr. Atia. Oh, his was the worst. Peter Thomas Roth. He was emailing Jeffrey. He came over to his house to give the girls a skincare tutorial, and he's released a statement, and it's his company, too. One thing might be, I'll never buy a Peter Thomas Roth product ever again. I have in the past. So I think some emails are much more incriminating than others. Wasserman's, they don't say any crimes or whatever. But if I have an agent who's like, I want no part of it, not to say that he's 100% guilty, but- I have to read the emails because there is a big birth.

I I know. In between people who corresponded, who were wrapped up in this world versus the people who did the things and also facilitated the things.

And the thing for Casey Wasserman is that there's this photo flying around of him, Ghislaine, and Jeffrey standing in front of a private airplane, which obviously is Giving Island, but it is the humanitarian trip that they took with the Clinton Foundation.

That's what he's talking about. Yeah. I'm also looking at a picture of him, Bill Clinton, Ghislaine, Jeffrey.

Let me see. Oh, just like a social photo. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not like there are some people whose emails like it is... Like, Thanks for the pizza last night. There are some people whose emails are full convictions, and there are some that could be explained otherwise. I would put Casey Walsh in that category. But if I'm a client, I'm not interested really in being a part of that. It's too close. That's the same with Carol. She has a lot of correspondences with Glaine during similar time, and they were like, Love you, my love. Not sexy, but like, My friend, I love you. I don't know if Carol has spoken about it. A lot of people have come right out and been like, I know my name's in there. I didn't do anything freaky. It's just unfortunate. Some of the things I do believe really can be explained away. This is a person who was deeply embedded in society. And so if you were a person in society, you might be in there and it might be nothing. Just because you're in there, I don't believe you're a pedophile. But there are a lot of pedophiles in there, too.

And there are a lot of people whose names come up again and again and again and again. Yeah. And if you're on the plane.

And apparently it was this open secret. Oh, another Bravo person who was named in the files is Leah Black from Real House Fives of Miami. And hers is really bad because her husband was Jeffrey's lawyer. A lot of people don't know, but after 2008, he was a registered sex offender because he had been accused of a bunch of crimes. Leah's husband, Roy Black, very famous lawyer, was his lawyer. Got him off on a bunch of the charges, but he did have to register as a sex offender. So if you're doing anything after 2008 and you're friendly with a sex offender, that's questionable.

Roy Black has since passed. Yes.

Just worth mentioning.

Oh, no, but he's old. Yeah. No, I just meant to say there's not going to be a That follow-up question.

His firm is not going to be denouncing him. Yeah. No, he's dead. Yeah. And this went on for so long. So many people involved are dead either in a suspicious manner or just because these were a bunch of old, freaky men.

Yeah, but there are a couple of big obvious names. Les Wexner. Les Wexner, The Bills.

Yeah.

Casey Wasserman seems to be a part of that crew. That crew, right. Well, actually not as much as those three. No, because there aren't that many emails from Casey Wasserman.

I just think it's a big Hollywood name, so a lot of people are talking about it. There's also this guy who runs all the ports in Dubai who was a big client, but nobody knows him, so nobody cares.

Yeah, I saw a list of, here are the five people that are like...

The worst. You didn't know any of their names?

I only knew Les Wexner. Yeah.

I only know Les Wexner from the documentary, Filky Rich.

That's so true.

Yeah, he's not even a famous person. Yeah, he started, I think, like Victoria's Secret or whatever.

In hindsight- Oh, did he start it or he owns it now?

He's been there for a while. He might be one of the But the other four names I never heard of.

Yeah. When it was like, these are the worst of the worst.

Right. So it's mostly like politicians, businessmen, whose names... I don't have their posters on my wall. I don't know them. And there's so many documents, even though I saw some, first of all, so much is redacted that the really, I think, stuff that would shock people. There have been rumors about a lot of these people for a long time. I think the stuff that would really shock people has been redacted to protect, I don't know who. It's really annoying. And also, I saw someone say, The stuff that they're releasing, it's so hard not to be a crazy conspiracy thears because the stuff that they're releasing is not that crazy and it's not going to shock you that much. It's hiding. It's to distract the public. From? I don't know. Sometimes I get a little too deep on the Epstein, but it makes you crazy. A lot of the stuff that people thought was crazy.

No, it's worse.

Pizza? Yeah. And also there's also so much AI stuff about the Epstein that I hope I'm not falling for it.

Yeah, man. And I feel like there were so many files. They all came out in this very disorganized dump. People are still hoping through it.

Yes, so it's still being uncovered. There are definitely people in there that we haven't even found yet. And they're just praying in their homes right now that nobody finds their emails.

Yeah. I feel like that's what Casey Wasserman has been doing for the last few years. Yes. And living like- But it's important.

Casey Wasserman does not have that many emails. I just want to say. He definitely runs in a freaky circle of people, and you are who you associate with. But in terms of like- So the Clinton Foundation went on a humanitarian mission on Jeffrey Epstein's plane.

Was it his plane? You said it was in front of a plane. A plane? Like, you take a private plane. Oh, not his plane. Not the Lolita Express?

It didn't look like the Lolita Express. It looked like a safari-like plane. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Okay.

But Jeffrey was on the trip.

Because he's a humanitarian.

And then I get the vibe he was passionate about giving back.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? A little Olympics drama. Okay. The Team Canada men's hockey team will stay at a five-star hotel instead Instead of the Olympic village, they say, We want to win gold.

Listen, don't let me get in your way. I agree. I know staying in the Olympic Village is camaraderie, but these are big burly men sleeping on cardboard beds.

No, And like, men's ice hockey is Team Canada's best chance at gold. Like, historically, it's like the US basketball team. Do they stay at the Olympic village? There's no way LeBron stays.

By the way, I'm having deja vu. We have this conversation every year about LeBron staying in the Olympic And I do think they get an excuse because they're too big for the facilities.

They're too tall for the beds. They're very small. So they can say, We don't fit. But LeBron is not staying at the Olympic Village.

Yeah, the thing is, and this is a conversation that gets had every year, and I don't know why the Olympic Committee just won't invest in queen-size beds. Twin mattresses- It would literally triple the budget of the village. It's the biggest thing in the world.

They have budget. But there are thousands of athletes. And they deserve a bed.

It's absurd. College kids live better than the Olympic athletes. It's absurd.

Well, no, you could have a nice Olympic village.

But the beds are notoriously made of cardboard.

It depends where.

I think a lot of the javelin throwers are above the weight limit.

And they probably get special accommodations.

And I just want to say, Slay Team Canada.

Yeah, I want to say that as well, especially like, they are the NBA players of the north.

I didn't realize it. I have to check every couple of days. I'm obsessed with the metal counter. Where are we at right now?

And are we in a good So the US is not amazing at the Winter Olympics.

We slay, even though in the last couple of years, China has really been like- But also, don't we send the most amount of Olympians to the- Yeah, and I thought about something that you said the other day because I was literally watching something sport and the person was like a Floridian competing for Finland or whatever because they had a finish. And Jackie said, because I don't know if you said on the podcast or in person, but the Olympics is just like Americans battling other Americans. We take over every country. If you don't make it in Team USA, you have a grandparent who's German and you go to Germany. It's just Americans messing around with each other.

Yeah. When I was watching the opening ceremony, there was all these countries from across the globe, and then they have one or two athletes. They're introducing the athlete who's playing for somewhere in the Middle East. They're like, And he's from the University of Utah.

Do you want who has the most gold medals or the most medals?

Both. Can I have both?

Gold medals is Norway.

How many?

Seven.

It's early days.

Overall, Italy has the most medals with 14, which just feels convenient. Rigged. Yeah, rigged. That's weird. Then in second place, with the most amount of medals is Norway in the US with 13. The US has four gold medals, Norway has seven, Italy has five. So it's Norway, Italy, and the US. Where's China? Go off Norway. China is flop central. Zero gold medals and three medals total. Maybe they also thrive during the- How many athletes did Norway send to the Olympics?

The US was the biggest delegation, so- How many athletes did Norway send to the Olympics? Percentage-wise, I think Norway is really slaying.

Eighty.

We sent 200.

And that doesn't count Americans playing for other countries.

Well, yeah. When you're literally speed-skating and there's your teammate from UCLA across the bench.

I remember, I was watching snowboarding, and there was this female snowboarder who I believe, competing on behalf of China. She was the prettiest girl I've ever seen in my life. I would say the prettiest girl that I would think right now is probably Hailey Bieber. This girl was prettier than Hailey Bieber. I've never seen somebody, not a stitch of makeup.

She's competing for China.

She lives in California. That's what it was reminding me of. But she's also 17. She's also 17. She's snowboarder, Cali. Girl. Just write girl. She was so cool, too. Like snowboarder. Of course, she shreds. Yeah.

Do you see her? Eileen?

I don't remember.

Or I'll find it. She didn't fall. That's the other thing.

In snowboarding, everyone falls.

Oh, they do?

Yeah, two out of three times.

Shred in the nar. I mean, everything is just about...

This girl. Oh, yeah. Eileen Gu.

Okay. Eileen Gu. Let me pull her up.

Oh, no. Yeah. Eileen Gu. Yeah.

Here's her Instagram.

Chinese Americans are obsessed, they're saying. Look at this girl. Not a stitch of makeup. Look at her.

Oh, wow.

She's extraordinary looking. She's also American, but also Chinese.

Yeah. Sorry, what was the story? The men's team staying in a five-star hotel. I'm all for it.

And maybe it's time for how the White Lotus partners with the Four Seasons. The Olympics need to partner with Marriott or something. Just take over a couple of hotels.

Well, they should.

I wonder why they don't do that. And there are so many corporate sponsors for the Olympics, like Marriott, Amex.

Yeah. Why not have a... They should do it at Disney and take over the resorts.

That's a great idea. And there are Disney's all over the world.

Yeah, but also even when they go to LA, there are so many hotels in LA. They're going to build a village.

People are really worried, actually, about LA not being able to build the infrastructure for the Olympics after rebuilding from the fires and things are really not going well. Oh, really? It's actually one of Spencer Pratt's campaign things. People are saying that LA should pass it off.

I didn't know that was happening.

Yeah, I think it's a drama. I think it'll be fine. I think they could do it. But also the way the bar is very low for the Olympics, Sochi, remember all the drama, the Olympians, sleeping in mold or whatever? We just figure it out.

No, and go to the Marriott.

And they have a lot of athletes. I mean, they have a lot of stadiums. They have Sofi, they have the Rose Bowl, they have Staples Center. They have a lot of stuff already.

I think they had really grand ideas for the Olympics. I remember, I think we even reported on it, that it was going to be a totally walkable Olympics. There would be no cars. I love that. They were going to build a little city, and maybe they can't do that, but they could certainly put on an Olympics. Yeah.

Even the summer Olympics are like, actually, I feel like it's probably harder to prepare. And when I think of all the drama, I think it's always the Winter Olympics because the snow is fake. Sometimes the snow is not real.

Yeah, it's not enough snow. It's icy.

Yeah. But I've actually heard that the snow in Milan cortina is amazing.

And so the cortina snow.

Because It's a real resort, ski town. Yeah. So they didn't have to build anything fake.

And that would be great for Cortina because I never heard of Cortina as a destiny. Not that I hear of... But I've heard, of course, Cheval. Yeah, of course. Geneva. But now I think Cortina is up there.

I think it'll be huge for the resorts. I don't know if we had this conversation, IRL or on the toast, but when they kept calling it Milan Cortina, I thought it was a fancy way of saying Milan Olympics.

I told you, I thought it was the second half, Miami Dade. Yeah, oh, yeah. You I thought it was the Miami Dade Olympics.

Yeah, no, Milan Cortina. I'm like, Oh, I'm learning so much Italian.

I love watching the Cortina.

Cortina is like a village, like a ski village.

Yeah. They do this for the Summer Olympics, too, where there are outposts of other sports taking place. They were in French Polynesia doing the surfing during the summer Olympics while they were taking place in France.

But I don't think they'll have to do that in... Like Malibu is peak.

Oh, will there be any sports where they have to off?

California has Everything. They've got skiing and big bear.

Yeah, they do have surfing.

Yeah.

They couldn't go to Hawaii.

Yeah, but it's not California. I guess it's just US.

It's US, just like Milan Cortina, Italy. You know what?

They really should. But the next time they have it in the US, they should have it all over.

Okay, wait. I was talking about this with Olivia, but I want to get your take because when I was watching Milan Cortina opening ceremony, I realized it's so much about Italy. Yes, they focus on Milano a little bit, but it's celebrating Italy, just like the Paris Olympics were celebrating France. And so the LA Olympics should be, even though there's so much lore in LA, it should be about the US.

Because LA is not hosting the Olympics. America is.

Right. And we have decided to place it in Los Angeles, but America is the host country. It's not about a host city, it's about a host country.

And I think when the other people say that they're going to the Olympics, they say they're going to the US, not LA.

So a couple of things to think about. It should take place all over.

A couple of things- Surfing in Malibu, skiing in Denver. They should take over the whole country.

A couple of things to think about, though, because just like Andrea Pocelli is the premier Italian artist when you're doing an Italian opening ceremony. Taylor Swift. No, but it's not. You have to think about the US at a glance. And for everyone, who do you think are the artists that you perform at the opening ceremony? And I literally said not Taylor Swift and Beyoncé. That's who you think of when you think of the biggest, but like- No, I literally think of Taylor Swift.

When you think about her tour, she's the biggest global touring artist.

At the moment, but you have to think throughout history.

And for a while, and she will be for a while. She's not like a flash in the pan.

No, but for the older people.

For everyone. Taylor Swift is eternal. It's obviously Taylor Swift. I don't think she'll do it. She absolutely should. But let me think who else.

Because a lot of the people I was thinking of have since passed. But think about it this way. Whitney Houston passed.

Is Madonna American? Is she British?

I don't know, but I don't think she's right for the job. Michael Jackson.

He dead. Thanks. Yeah.

No, I'm going with the dead people first, just so you can then think of the living.

And I still say Taylor Swift.

Elvis Presley. Okay. And then who did we wind up saying? When you think of America, like Dolly Parton, she's going to be at the opening ceremony. Sure. Bruce Springsteen.

Oh, yeah, but he's not known globally, just so you know.

Yeah.

He might be known in Canada.

Olivia said Billy Joel. And then I was saying- So should Olivia answer? And it's a good one. And then I was saying the opening ceremony should be a journey through the US, where they stop at different places and they- Oh, I'm sorry.

I know. Kelly.

That's what the commenters were saying.

No, I stand by Taylor. I think- I literally think this is going to be the craziest thing I've ever said. Taylor Swift is to the US, but Andrea Bocelli is to Italia. Okay. Yeah, I said Italia.

I thought you said Italian. I was going to, and I fucked off the words.

Yeah, Taylor.

No, it's honestly such a fun job to have, and Casey Wasserman does not deserve it.

I think he's coming at it from a sports perspective, but I agree. Whoever's in charge of entertainment, hire us.

Or a consultant.

They need to have the Rockets, all the things, all the arts that America is really known for. Yeah, Taylor Swift, the Rockets. Sorry, broke the microphone.

And a journey through the US, what they're doing with the housewives for the 20th anniversary. They should do for the opening ceremony.

The Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders.

The DCC.

I'm trying to think of like, I'm taking a road trip. Yeah.

Yeah. It was a really fun conversation.

We've got a lot going on. We do.

And I hope that...

I love the Olympics.

I know. And I don't want to not be present in what we have right now. I know.

But they're so subpar, the Winter Olympics. I still like them.

But no. Also, Italy is doing a really amazing job. Really, the opening ceremony was so beautiful.

I know. And I feel like we're always clowning. So when it's good, we have to say it's good. No, I know. The France opening ceremony was such a shit show.

Remember, I was thinking about how they had the teams go on boats down the Seine. Terrible. That was insane. Who filled Seine. And like some teams had to share boats because they had a couple of delegates.

So wrong.

They tried to be different.

Like, everybody does it in an arena. It was raining. Oh, yeah. Everybody does it in an arena.

And the Cancan dancers on the bank of the Seine who put in Cancan because it was raining.

Yeah, and they were like, slipping off the bridge.

So they were just like, marking it, and we were supposed to be like, That's amazing.

Yeah, it was really bad. It was really bad. And it's interesting that they had Mariah Carey.

I thought that was so interesting.

I'm an American. I'm not mad, but she is American.

No, and she sounded amazing, but I feel like...

She could have done it at the US.

No, but I feel like she doesn't sing anymore. But she had the New Year's disaster. It's like, does she even sing anymore? We know that she once had the most amazing voice, but does she still? And she does. She sang at the Olympics. I believe she does. I don't think it was prerecorded because if you're going to do that, you could get anyone to sing. It's not like she- Oh, they also had Lady Gaga in France.

The Americans are everywhere. It's literally like the Olympics. We're everywhere.

And Céline Dion, French-Canadian.

Yeah. We, unfortunately, can't claim Céline Dion.

No. Yeah. So she won't be at the American. Maybe Ariana Grande.

Yeah, I guess. You also think about who's in the Super Bowl. That's a good marker for who might do the open ceremony.

But it's not always- Oh, sorry.

Bruno Mars. There we go.

Bruno Mars. It's done. We fixed it. Yeah, Bruno Mars. We fixed it for you.

Let him host the whole thing.

He's got personality. And pay him. The hooligans. Pay him enough.

Free him from the shackles of MGM Grand. Yeah.

Okay. Well, that's our show. Except when they did the transfer from Paris to the US, it was Tom Cruise. Oh, and this is what I said to Olivia, Billy Eilish and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Remember that?

I do remember that. It's in the past.

No, I'm sorry. That's like...

Let's just look forward. Tom Cruise was a good choice. As much as we think he's a weenie, he is globally known. He actually likes what he did. I know you're obsessed with Tom Cruise. He is globally known. He's like the American movie star, like very protocol.

Globally known. Yeah.

Taylor Swift. I don't know why you're not seeing it.

No, Claudia, you don't have to tell me. You have to tell Casey Wasserman.

I got a lot of things I got to tell Casey Wasserman, okay? That's our show, you all. Yeah, I said you all. Italiana, you all. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast of the Millennial Morning show where we deliver the fast-time stories that you need to know about everything Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please definitely subscribe. Did you watch Tommy Lies?

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