Transcript of Another Year in the Garbage Can: Friday, February 13th, 2026 New

Good morning, girlies. It's The Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast-fired things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's The Toast.

They sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Friday. Hope everybody's having a great day kicking off acknowledging Lodging the space, et cetera, et cetera. Hello, Jacqueline Follet. How are you today?

I'm great today. It's Friday. She's getting emotional. I'm getting emotional. It is an emotional day. It's my baby's birthday. I know. It's my babe's birthday. So that's Emo. And then Dana texted me this morning, it's also Colgate Day. So every Friday, the 13th, is what we call Colgate Day in the Colgate community. And this is the first time... Harry was born on the 13th, but this is the first time his birthday has fallen on a Colgate day. So it's really just a meshing of all beautiful things.

And they say, White people have no culture. Colgate Day, that's so... Colgate is like...

Don't be rude. No, no. Colgate. Jealous. She's so jealous that I went to a college with Laure.

Okay. Okay. Moving on. Happy Colgate Day to all who celebrate Dana Holesberg, specifically. Specifically Dana. Oh, sorry, Webman. I cannot. There are some people... It's funny how you're married people, like who they... Like, whose names change forever. And I'm sorry, she's Dana Holsberg forever.

Oh, she's done a really good job of morphing. She will be Dana Holsberg because that's how we know her. But she peeps in with the Webman for me. As much as she could change in my mind, she has.

Yeah. It's just like, it's never going to happen for me. I'm such a stubborn person for all my married friends. Dana went extreme. The second she got married, she changed her Gmail. She changed everything. Her Venmo. Yeah, everything. Then some people slowly transition. I just can't.

The slow transition doesn't work. No.

Changing your Instagram handle is a really... It's an expedited way. I will start, but even... No, I just, sorry. She's Lauren Bushnell. No. She's Lauren Bushnell.

She's so Lauren Lane.

I'm so... Maybe it's the feminist in me.

Oh, you want to keep women as their independent selves.

I want to keep women down. Yeah. We're up. Oh, my God. I called you last night. Did you? Just remind me after the show. Actually, I called you from Ben's phone. What? Yeah, so you didn't pick up.

Let me see. Oh, my God. No, I would never miss a call from Lish. Oh, a FaceTime from his iCloud account.

Oh, Ben's having iCloud issues.

So maybe my phone screened that.

Yes, Ben is very boomer in the sense that every time his phone rings, his computer starts ringing, even if the computer's closed. And now every time he FaceTimes me, it's the iCloud.

Got it. I think my phone must have screened. I'm not going to glass his email, but at iCloud. Com.

Yeah, no, it's actually been an issue for the whole family. I wonder what you had to say to me. Just remind me after. It's nothing of great import. You guys don't need to be jealous about what I'm telling Jackie. It's just like, minor administrative tasks, things for the family.

Okay, great.

Yeah. We're such a busy show today. First of all, did you watch Try Us?

Of course I did.

And Real Hot Spimes of Beverly Hills.

Of course I did.

And then we also have Queeny and Weenie. And I feel... I just feel excited about the potential for today's episode. Do you know?

Yeah, there's a lot to discuss. And we have five stories. The stories are storying.

Oh, and yeah. What? Yeah. The story is- Mikaela?

Yeah. Mikaela Noguero.

Things we didn't predict, but it's just crazy how on the pulse we are.

Yeah. Unless the two things are related because I guess- But of course they are. So we were just putting a magnifying last to that. I don't feel like, I feel like we magnified a situation.

We are just like, radioactive. Everything near us, like everything in our orbit is on fire in good and bad ways.

It doesn't sound good.

Like, Mikaela Noguera doesn't get spoken about on podcasts a lot, but when she does, she gets divorced.

But also, is it like she was spoken about once and she got divorced? Or like, she's always doing something. She's always in The Zeitgeist. She's crazy. Everyone's obsessed with her.

Just you. Oh, my God. Joey Kamasna.

No, everyone is. Remember the mascara?

Oh, yeah, of course. They're still talking about it.

They're obsessed with her.

Because she just got a campaign with L'Oréal for a mascara, and now they're making a joke about it. On TikTok, it's referred to lovingly as Mascara Gate. And she became a global face of L'Oréal for their new mascara launch, and they were talking about Mascara Gate. So, yeah, she's made coin off of the mascara fiasco. Good. Yeah. Joey Kamasta texted me last night that he was on the floor. He said his pillow was wet from the tears he was crying at that clip that we posted about you seeing the Let Me Add for the first time. He's obsessed with when you're uncomfortable, like in sexual innuendos, because when you guys did the episode during my maternity leave, it was like a lot of that because Joey's are rated, and you're not. He was crying. It was so funny.

It was really funny. It was very unexpected.

How were you celebrating the A big day?

The big day? Well, it's a big weekend. It's a holiday weekend, which is so fun. So it's just like, bus club, another bus club. And I think we're going to do a little beach day today, perhaps. So see if weather permits.

I'm wearing shorts.

Yeah, I packed a T-shirt. I have a beach bag in my car. Oh, a good T-shirt. Back to the beach. You're so crazy, Kevlari. I know this looks like a T-shirt, but it's actually a leotard. And if I'm going to be breastfeeding by the beach, I need a T-shirt, not a leotard.

That's really crazy that you're wearing a leotard.

Well, these are like my new It's body suits. I have them in every color. I wear them a lot before I got pregnant. I wear them every day. They're just like, they're better than T-shirts.

I know. They just are. There's just something crazy about being a postpartum woman wearing a leotard.

It's a T-shirt body suit, so I don't want anyone to think. But it clips at the beginning. It clips, and if your breasts- It's not a thong, is it? No, it's... Well, I'm wearing undies.

Okay, but sometimes the body suits are like thong.

It's not thong, and it's not not thong. Oh. It's not I'll show you later. Oh, how exciting. The beach.

Okay, that's just crazy.

I have not worn- I have changed into my T-shirt.

I haven't worn a leotard body suit long before I got pregnant. To me, that's just a part of my former life.

It was just the shirt for the job today. Okay. I don't know how to describe it, and I feel good about it. It's not bothering me. It's not. No.

I imagine, though, and I don't want to get too personal, but I imagine wearing underwear and then a thong-like bodysuit is weird.

Not if it's not... These are why the nudes ones are great. Have you seen them? I don't wear bodysuits. If I showed it to you, you would understand. It's a T-shirt. It looks like a t-shirt. And then at the bottom, it just has a stretchy Undercarriage. It's not like what you remember from American Apparel of a bodysuit. You just unlock. I know. I know that's what you're thinking is happening. Actually, that's not what I was thinking. They've made great strides.

Let's talk about American Apparel, can we?

They've made great strides in the bodysuit world. Did they make a documentary? I think they did. I didn't watch it.

Okay, because they should make a documentary.

Because I can't give any more of my life to American Apparel than I already did.

They should make a documentary, obviously, about American Apparel, but just about that one store on Third Avenue in 66th Street. The way it shaped a generation of New Yorkers.

It shaped culture. It shaped the culture.

That store in particular was insane. The draw. It was literally like, Soho House. It was such a place to see and be seen. When it went out of business, it was devastating for the community. And what were we even buying their? Hoodies and V-neck T-shirts? Yes. The V-necks.

Yeah. It was like the modern... And now there are so many brands that... Do what they did. It's not as...

Revolutionary?

Concentrated into one brand. It's like everyone's wearing one brand.

There's Brandy Melville. Yeah.

Madewell, J. Crew, all the staples. You can go anywhere for your staples, skims. Back in the day, there was one, and it was American Empower. You need a T-shirt, American Empower. You need a sweatshirt, American Empower. You need leggings American Empower. And if it's not American Empower, everyone's going to know.

It was such a status symbol.

Even though it wasn't the most expensive, but it was high- It was elevated staples. Elevated staples, fugly staples.

Purple zip-ups.

Fuggly staples.

And when I look back on pictures from high school, I was wearing it every day.

Every day. And it's like, Today I'm going to wear my nice purple zip-up.

And my black V- neck.

I'm getting dressed up today. I'll wear my yellow purple zip.

No, no. And the thing... Oh, oh.

What's your Timer for?

I don't even know you set a Timer.

Sure.

No, for real.

You don't have to take a vitamin or something.

No, I don't take vitamins. That's why I have these white lines on my fingernails.

You don't have to do an injection.

No, I took my zap out last night. What else? I don't take birth control. What else do people set timers for? To wake up. I'm not hard boiling eggs. I don't know what the hell my phone was going off for.

Okay, well, she's awake. Her eggs are boiled.

Yeah. What are we talking about? Oh, and as sisters, you had a bit of a uniform. We didn't wear uniforms to school, but you always wear a white T-shirt or whatever. And you had white T-shirts that were American apparel and white T-shirts that were not American apparel. And you would always have to keep them in the rotation of when you laundered them. And then if a sister took the good American apparel T-shirt, it was such a fight. What drugs were they putting in those T-shirts?

I don't know.

It was crack for kids.

It was.

What is crack for kids today? Roblox.

K-pop demon hunters. Laboo Boo.

I feel like that came and went. I think Laboo Boo is over. I don't know, though. If you're young, let me know.

I think they're cute. I don't know the point. Is it the point to wear it on a handbag?

On the Real House West Beverly Hills, when I saw Dorit wearing one on a handbag, it felt like a throwback because they filmed this, obviously, a year ago. I don't think Laboo Boo's are Laboobing.

Really? I feel like they've settled into whatever they're going to be.

No, I I think they've actually fated. They've fated. I believe they were a marker of the time, and the time has moved.

Did you ever get one?

No.

I got one in PR. I got one in PR from the bar.

Me too.

And it brought great joy to my household.

There was someone in my life who loved Labooboos, so I gave it to them. Wow. Yeah, I'm generous of spirit.

That's really sweet. So I'm glad to have had one. I get it. I got it. They are stinking cute. Yeah.

Are we going to make it a story, the Frida Baby thing? Yes. Okay. Because I really I actually want to talk about that.

I'm feeling sick inside. I'm feeling sick.

All right. So I feel like the stories are actually needed today.

There's a lot of stories plus two TV recap. Yeah. And Queenie and Weanie. Oh my God. Let's go. Plus Queenie and Weeny. So let's just get into everything that we need to discuss. Without further ado, do, do, do. Here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

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Our first story of the day, the after-mentioned divorce news between influencer Mikaela Noguero and her husband, Cody Hawken. She has shared that they are divorcing. She announced on Thursday in a TikTok video that she and her husband decided to split last year. She said, I'm getting a divorce. Take a minute. Take it in. I'm getting a divorce. Can you play the video for me? Happily.

I literally have it saved.

I want to hear it from Mikaela's mouth.

From Mikaela's self.

God forbid, I follow her.

It's a long video. She posted it on both platforms.

This video by saying, I appreciate you.

Can I see her? And I love you. I love her.

And you're going to want to sit down for this video.

She's so dramatic. I'm sad. I love her.

I am getting a divorce. Take a minute. Take it in. I am getting a divorce. Cody and I love each other so much.

We love each other so much.

We would do literally anything for each other.

That sounds like a great marriage. Say marriage. That sounds like a great marriage.

Well, I'm not going to be sharing any details whatsoever as to why Cody and I have made this decision.

I love her for that.

The main reason I am doing that is because I want to protect Cody. Cody deserves that. We both want to heal. Cody deserves to be happy. Cody deserves to be happy. So do I. This is an extremely shitty thing. No one gets married to get a divorce. Absolutely no one. But what I can tell you is that this is very amicable. We talk every day. He comes over for dinner. He sees the dogs. We and I were together for five years, married for two. And they are some of the best memories of my life. Memories that I will cherish.

No.

Okay. So they're perfect best friends, and they love each other, and they respect each other, and they love to talk and have dinner. You should get married. Yes.

So lots to discuss. In case you are just listening as a podcast, full beat, Mikaela J.

Well, nothing less.

Full beat, natural sunlight, her face pressed up against a window. Okay? It was so dramatic. Like, turtle neck, sweater. I lived for the staging, okay? I knew what she was going to say before she even said it. There has been so much speculation about Cody. If you've been following this for literally two years, he's been missing a lot. And then a year ago, she shared that he relapsed with his addiction. So everybody just backed off and didn't look so much into, Where is he? He's not in the videos because obviously he's going through active recovery, and everybody just backed off. Then at the end of last year, which she said that they decided to get divorced at the end of last year. She posted content for a month that she was in bed inconsolable, grieving, grieving, grieving. She can't tell us why, can't tell us why. A lot of really annoying click baity type of stuff. Okay.

But now we know that all of those things- Was the divorce.

Okay. Now, I just find this annoying because while I I really like her message being like, I'm not telling you bitches what happened. People are so awful to her. Really, really awful.

People share too much in general.

A thousand %. And he's a private person. This is not at all what he wanted for his life. So I respect the message, but her delivery is so... Almost like she's baiting people. The video goes on for two more minutes. I'm not telling you why. Don't even try and guess. It's not about his recovery. So what is it? I wouldn't even care if it weren't for- She's creating more mystery. Obviously.

That's because she's great at her job.

She's amazing at her job. Now, Now, do we want to guess?

Listen, I didn't even know that her husband's name was Cody. I think I remember that she got married because there was some drama.

That she kicked out, she disinvited her actual family members and friends so she could invite influencers, which was a lie.

Was there a drama with her wedding dress?

No.

I feel like there was a drama surrounding something in her wedding, and it's not what you just said because that doesn't sound familiar.

No, but the drama was how many influencers were there? And a girl made a video being like, I'm her best friend from college, and I got kicked out of the wedding. So where me Bayter could come.

She's obsessed with Mikaela. The girl. Yeah.

No, the internet is obsessed with Mikaela, and there have been so many scandals, drama, and a lot of them are rooted in complete lies. It's like the wedding thing was a lie. She deals with I don't feel much this girl. I actually feel bad for her. She's just so polarizing for people, and when all she does is make makeup. Now, I still have something to note about the video, and I'm surprised you didn't mention it, is her accent is completely gone.

It is?

Yeah. Listen, No, listen.

Let's hear it again.

I do not regret a single thing, nor does Cody.

Nor does Cody? She's been bossy.

I know there is going to be so much speculation. But in the past, there would have been so much speculation. I sound like Julianne Moore in 30 Rock, where she plays that Irish, Boston, Girlfriend of Alex, Paul, with Nancy.

That's good. No.

Nancy. So you crushed it. And then actually, two weeks ago, maybe three weeks ago, Mikaela made another video. She's always making these grand sweeping statements and then going back to normal. But basically being like, her entire internet career has been a lie. She hates that... I do feel like I actually thought she was being really honest in this video, being like, she got so famous, so wealthy overnight. And she's like, it changed me completely. I became obsessed with influencer lifestyle, money. She said, Everything that you've seen on my page in the last couple of years has been a complete lie. I think she was referring to the accent because she's very slowly dropped it. And it's funny because the accent was a thing on the internet for a year. People did not... They were finding videos of her from college talking normal. And then no one's talking about the fact that her accent is completely gone. Kim Kardashian.

Well, I think that's like everyone has a role to play. Go to pot too. Everyone has a role to play on the internet. Have you been seeing the Becker Bloom stuff?

I've been seeing the Becker Bloom stuff, yes. They say she's poor.

That she's not nearly as wealthy as she's been acting on the internet. Okay, she's playing a role. She's telling us a story. Kaylor.

Noguera.

Noguera is playing a role on the internet. You play up whoever you are. Everybody is a little extra. Except for us.

We're so authentic. We're ourselves. And that's why we're failures. That's why we will never be big stars, because all we do is tell the truth.

I completely agree. If we amped it up, if we turned it up, if we made ourselves fit into a box and then blew up the box, we would crush it.

No, we just started telling lies. We're I'm just so honest. I come over here and tell you guys what color my poop was. Nobody wants to see that, and that's why we're failures. That's why this is a tiny show, and we'll never take off.

It's true. It's actually 100% true.

I know. Our greatest strength, it's our Achilles heel, is our weakness.

Is our honesty and authenticity. It's the year of authenticity.

Unfortunately for us. Another year in the garbage can.

Maybe next year will be the year of putting it on.

The thing is, I don't put it on because I'm literally so lazy. Do you know creative and how much thought and time you have to put into making videos that aren't just your stream of conscious? Yes.

And for also talking technically, you can put it on for three minutes in a video on Instagram. We're sat here six hours a week. It's going to slip. Mikaela, we didn't even talk about the let me add and how this plays into it.

Well, of course. So I don't really want to theorize because she literally asked us not to.

Oh, right. Sorry.

But a lot of what she was saying...

No, but also, no, I don't even want to theorize. Oh, maybe they divorced because he never...

Well, no.

She said he never did.

They're divorcing because blank, and that's why he never blanked. That's what the internet's saying, by the way.

For me, more so it's like, because they are divorced, she could make that ad.

Well, I'm relieved to hear that they are divorced because she made that ad. And if that's your man- And you went back home like, Hey, honey, how was your day at work?

Good.

Just told everyone, You never ate me out. Like, insane. Yeah. So I'm actually thrilled that they're divorcing for that reason alone.

Yeah, because they don't have to live with the aftermath of the ad.

They don't have to have dinner together, like knowing that exists. Yeah.

Well, they still do have dinner together, she said.

According, yeah. For the dogs.

The dogs.

I mean, I don't know what's next for one Mikaela Noguera. She's in a transitional period. Like I said, she made this huge video at the end of the year being like, Everything has been a lie. I just want to go back to the normal girl that I am and stop lying to everyone. And I got so caught up with the money and the I'm just going back to being the girl that I am. So that means no man and no accent. I'm down.

I just like, I don't know why it's so hard to keep up the lie.

I think it was taking a toll on her mental health.

Really?

She was hysterically crying in that video.

To put on a little show, a couple of videos a week, whatever, being this extra person, rake it in and then go and enjoy your private life. Why is that so...

It's five videos a day. Okay. It's mostly makeup, so she doesn't have to get personal with it. I think that maybe is what she's going to do now. She's closing this chapter on her personal life being... And I follow her literally for makeup. I'm always buying shit. I literally do not give a fuck how many dogs she has, how many boyfriends she has. For me, and I think a lot of people, we come to her, we come to this place for makeup. So just do that. You don't have to share with us.

If I had a- No, but people demand it. You're a sound of mind, but people insist. I know.

She's so young.

She's so young. Yeah. And it's like, you feel... So I understand why that's hard on your mental health. You feel compelled. But faking an accent, just do it.

You know, it's theater.

It is theater. But if it's more than that, if she really feels like she's giving a piece of herself to the world and then everybody beats her up, that hurts.

Charlotte Tilbury.

I love her. Charlotte If she has no fans, Claudia, stop showing me her TikTok.

No, she is a character. You can't put Mikaela in a box. You can't.

No, you can't. But looking forward to see who she dates next. List of eligibility. Literally. At to the list. I would love to.

I mean, she's also like, Boston strong. Well, no, that's what they said with the marathon. She's Boston-Proud. Thank you. So maybe she could date Mark Wahlberg.

Mark Wahlberg.

Yeah. The two of them together with their voices match made in heaven.

If they make another Ted, she has to be in it.

She doesn't make a Ted TV show. It's on Peacock. Thank God I still have my Peacock subscription for the Olympics.

Well, she should be in it.

I saw a commercial for it. Our boys are back in town.

She should voice Ted's wife.

Girlfriend.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a great idea.

It's a great idea.

Are you ready for our next story? Some really adorable news, some positive news from Lively v. Valdoni because the two of them have started court proceedings and Blake Lively had her chauffeur fetch her pricey Majang set and bring it to her in court on Wednesday. You guys, one step closer to Taylor playing Majang.

Not only that, any hopes that I would have backed off on being Team Lively are now in the garbage.

Yeah. So page 6 here is that she showed up for court around 8: 30 AM on Wednesday for a day of mediation in her suit against former co-star Justin Baldoni, and the proceeding got underway at 10: 00 AM. By 11: 00 AM, apparently, Blake had grown weary of the wheels of justice, turning slowly and called for her diversions. We're told that her driver showed up at the door of the courthouse with a Majang set. She has previously talked about her Majang habit. I didn't even know this- Me neither. Have been paying attention in December when she told Vogue, I've been teaching friends how to play Majang, though I need to say I'm not a certified teacher, but I know enough to team teach my friends how to play with me, and in the end, I always end up gifting them my own set because they are obsessed and want to practice. Apparently, she favors sets from Oh My Majang, which runs as high as $500. A basic set costs about $25 in an ultra-luxe one like by Bruno Cucinelli, is $15,000.

Oh, somebody better get that for me.

Yeah. It just came out with a Mahjong set.

A friend of ours was telling us that for a birthday gift, her husband got her the Hermes Mahjong set, and it's literally impossible to play with. It's all like, it's beautiful, like wooden It has no numbers on it. It's all authentically in Chinese. Unless you speak Chinese, you can't use it. Oh, wow. Yeah.

No, I love a Mahjong set. Okay. And I know- It's just bust the case wide open. Who does she play with in court, though?

Well, so I imagine you bring a support system with you. We just saw her getting out of the car. That's true. A lot of people noted that Ryan wasn't there. I think it's better that he wasn't. I do think he's a distraction. Right now, they're both so unlikable. Them together in the same room is just bad for PR. And I think a lot of people are like, Is she not taking it seriously. This is serious. I imagine there's a lot downtime during these proceedings.

Is that what people are saying about the Mahjong?

I imagine. Are you having your show forfeit your Mahjong? This is a serious court about sexual harassment. It's like, Yeah, but this is also just a real-life thing she has to go through. Mahjong is an amazing way to pass the time. They should have Mahjong rooms in every airport.

Honestly, it sounds fun. Yeah. No wonder why she's not in a rush to end this thing.

I just want to say, when all is said and done and this court case is over, whoever wins, right? I do think Blake Lively should compensate me for my steadfast belief in her with a gifted Mahjong set. If it doesn't show up in my PO box, I'm going to be upset. Yeah. Because I'm taking a lot for her.

Well, and she can make it really nice, the flowers from the press tour.

I don't think she ever wants to remember those flowers. I think she's probably triggered by flowers now. She was trying to be thoughtful with her costumes, and she got called a woman-hating.

I think the Bams would maybe be locks of hair because of her Blake Lively, Blake Brown.

Oh, Blake Brown. Well, let's talk about the looks. We got paparazzi pictures of both her and Justin entering the courthouse, obviously totally separately. But this is a very high-profile case, and unfortunately, what she wears is going to be talked about. I was obsessed with her outfit. I did.

She looked great. She looked stylish but not flashy.

No. And that has been a big point of discussion.

And if she dressed any differently than how she normally dresses, it would look like she's faking and trying to put on a show. So I think she really nailed it.

And her hair looked insane. Yeah. Let me see. Turn around. This is the green suit. Yeah. It's very cool.

Yeah. It is. And then he was matching her.

Now I know I'm very being stereotypical. We're not supposed to care. What is she? Who weren't wearing? Yeah, but for me, these things matter. And so so far between the outfits, the Mahjong, I'm sad.

She's winning in my book. She did the Just for the superficial thing. Also, apparently, they went to mediation to try and see if they could settle it. They really should. They really should. That's what I've been saying the whole time, and they couldn't.

Do you think that Justin wants to settle? Because this actually has been good for him. The more things come out, nobody is turning on Blake.

I actually, I could say he's improving as the case. This is good for him. He doesn't want to settle. She, I think, has so much to prove that if she settles now, she settles. She only has what It's a loser. So I actually think neither of them want to settle. Yeah.

Justin should just take the W and go.

But she would have to agree to that.

Yeah, I know. But you're saying she's the one who's not, even though wouldn't she want this nightmare to end?

I think they are both not. Okay. When they both need to be R.

And so this is in New York? Yes.

At the Daniel Patrick Moynihan Courthouse.

Oh, I've been there many times. It's beautiful.

Have you?

I guess I have because I've done jury duty.

Are there not multiple courthouses?

Yeah, I've been to 60 Center Street. That's where you get your marriage license. And Pearl Street. Pearl, yes. Chinatown.

Pearl.

Pearl.

I had not been to that courthouse.

So, yeah, I actually quite enjoyed this part of the cour. Everything has been so dark and so like... Unfun? Yeah, that this was, I'm sorry, fun. The Majang, it was very interesting.

It was. Do you think she taught Taylor how to play before the Braggus?

No, because I'm telling you, if Taylor played Majang, we would know. Did you see the video of Donna Kelsey being TMZ outside the airport? No. It was such a funny and lovely conversation. The guy was like, You're a celebrity now. You go on reality. She was like, as yourself, not just as someone's mom or whatever. She was like, No, I'm really not. Then she talked about traitors, and it's clear that she was like, They didn't know how to film me. She was saying, not in a bad way, she was very smiley the whole time, really lovely. She said it was just something that she wanted to do, but they didn't know what to do with her. That's what she said.

What did they have to do with her? Why can't she just- I think because she couldn't do the challenges.

And because they, spoiler alert, made her that dumb secret traitor, they put her in a terrible spot. She was like, It was fun, but I could have stayed longer if... You have to watch a video. It was weird. Then they were asking her what she'll dance to with Travis at the wedding, and she was like, She was very open. She was like, I dance with Jason at his wedding to a song from the Bee Gees, Love Shack or something like that. So maybe something like that.

Maybe like Mark Anthony, do you think Phil Anthony? Yeah.

Then the interviewer, who was really lovely, by the way, it was a very positive paparazzi experience. Donna was with a friend who was cracking up at everything Donna was saying. Then the final question was like, did they make you sign an NDA for all the wedding stuff? Donna was like, Oh, no. They know I can keep a good secret. Bye. Thanks. It was a great interaction.

As the secret trader. You're right. The secret trader can keep a secret.

Not really. If I was Taylor and I saw Donna's time on Trade Desk, I would have had my lawyer putting the agreement together.

They're not going to make her sign an NDA. I'm kidding. No, I'm saying, what a silly question.

I don't know. Taylor is very, very private. I'm sorry. No, I mean, that's a quick way to become a daughter-in-law that you hate. Nicola. Yeah, literally.

Are you ready for her next story? It's some exciting TV news. Dancing with the Stars sets a spin-off series to find their next pro, and Robert Irwin is eye to host it. Oh. So Dancing with the Stars is getting the Glee Project. Yes. A competition show, Dancing with the Stars, the Next Pro. It will feature up and coming professional dancers who will live in a house together and compete in a grueling audition process. The winner will land a covened spot as a pro dancer on the next season of Dancing with the Stars.

This is very smart.

Yeah. And they're saying that Robert Irwin will host it.

Well, they love to promote from within. Keep it in the family. Like, Alfonso was a contestant who's now the host of the show. They love to create talent, which I think is so smart. They're literally like an incubator. And there is this A lot of people watch Dancing with the Stars, and then a smaller, but still big amount of people are obsessed with the pros. Like the culture, who day two, the history. I personally don't give a fuck. But those are the people who go to the tour. So there's a real built-in audience for it. And yeah, the Glee Project.

The Glee Project. I think this is a great idea. It takes a lot to be a pro as we saw. They thought they did to Yon.

What do you think it's going to be Hulu?

It is going to be on ABC and Hulu, it says.

I can't see this being on cable.

On ABC and I know.

I just can't see it being on cable. Why? I don't know. To me, reality shows that are- Or it says to air over the summer.

I think it's like summer is a lull. They just air like weird shit.

I think of just... To me, reality shows that air on cable with commercials are so old school. Like, they're not the future, like The Bachelor.

Yeah. Also, Mark Ballas is being eye to judge, along with his mother, Shirley Ballas, who is a dancer known as the Queen of Latin. Wait, that's so cute.

I didn't know that. Yeah.

A lot of personalities to choose from. You know, we should to judge even though I don't know him. I just know that he's nasty.

Let me think. Like someone who's nasty in dances.

In the world of dancing of the stars. It's not that crazy. Like, Maxim.

Of course, yeah.

He would be the Simon.

Yeah, they need that, by the way. They need that. That's a great call.

Bring Maxim.

Oh, yeah. And then they have also pros who have sunsetted who are still really influential and big in... They have a ton of people to choose from when it comes to all... So this is very smart. It's making use of the talent. Although I did see, because I follow a lot of the pros on TikTok, that's where it goes down. And a lot of them were hyping up this big announcement, big announcement. I saw people were a little disappointed that this is the announcement.

I think this is a great announcement. What were they hoping for? Another tour?

I don't know. Yeah.

Yeah, but no, I think this is cool.

No, I love this. Do they have a name for the show? Is it called The Dance Project?

It's called dancing with the Stars, the Next Pro.

Okay, I don't love it. It's a little chewy, but it's fine.

It is chewy. What about America's Next Top dancer? Yeah, love. Dancing with the Next Pro.

Dancing with the pros.

Yeah. That sounds like a rally show about the pros.

I love that, too.

Yeah.

No, this is a good idea.

This is a good idea. I'm happy for Mark that he's going to get more work after traitors.

Because Because if that was the worst thing he ever did... I don't want to talk about Trader's yet because it's like a- Except, did you see when he shut the door and furled after.

That's funny.

When I tell you, I was watching with half an eye last night.

I know. And I was shocked that I saw it. I was like, Wow, usually I miss stuff like that. Wait, what was it? He came back the challenge and he shut the front door.

And sached.

Turned like... That's the most he's given. I was like, That's the mark we know. And he talked about dancing at the roundtable about having a partner that you can trust. He's like, he's like, in my sport, I'm like, what are you? Who are you?

But okay, love that relevant work experience.

No, I agree. And then he made a relevant good point. And I was like, thank you, Mark, for your- Try doing it more.

For your contribution. Let's not talk about traitors yet because it is a gateway drug and I don't want to spoil anything. Okay. But I'm just thinking, what other shows or like, could you give the Glee Project treatment to? Finding the next housewife where you put a bunch of women in a house. That would be so scary.

That would be scary. Yeah.

I love this.

I love it. Toasty Lion, perhaps.

Well, let's see how it goes.

Yeah, but for ideas.

It's a great idea.

Are you ready for our next story? What number? Our fourth story. Yeah. We spoke about this at the top of the show, but popular baby care brand, Frida Baby, is facing backlash over inappropriate market marketing campaigns. Okay. Some posts are going viral in the last few days about Frida Baby, some screenshots of their products.

Just sorry to cut you off. Anybody who doesn't know what Frida Baby is, it is a company. It's like a cool millennial company that- It is the premier brand for baby products and for They make one of their postpartum products for women. They make everything. If you had a baby and you need something from a nail clipper to a bath to a thermometer, big things, little things, they make one of everything, and their shit is really good.

Yeah. I don't want to make this an endorsement for them, but I think what's so shocking about this is not just a baby brand. Whatever Before they make something, it is the best in category.

That fucking nail clipper, you guys, it's insane.

The three-in-one baby bath. I love that.

The nose sucker. The undies, the postpartum diapers.

Oh, the postpartum kit, the Squeezie bottle. Perineal. Perineal bottle.

So this is an industry that's archaic. The baby nail clipper has been the same since... And they make one that's a little bit different and 55 times better. What they've done for mothers can't be understated. No, I just think it's before we drag them, I'm going to.

Everything that they make is better. No, that's why it's destabilizing for the mama I mean, it's not like, Oh, I'm just going to boycott this random baby brand. It's like, These are the best products.

You can't boycott it. If you need to live.

Yeah.

But let's tell everyone what happened.

So a couple posts and product packaging are resurfacing. No.

So what happened was they posted something on Instagram about a rectal thermometer. Yes. And that's what set the whole thing off. Now people are going back at all their packaging. But this Instagram caption really rubbed people the wrong way for good reason. Obviously, it's a rectal thermometer. When you take a baby's temperature, you don't put it in their mouth, you don't put it in their ear, you put the temperature in their touche for the most accurate reading. They make a great one. I have it. And the caption that they posted to promote this product was suspicious.

It says, This is the closest your husband is going to get to a threesome. Meet the new three-in-one true temp thermometer, the Swiss Army knife of temperature, taking accuracy. Then here are a few more reasons to love it. We've got options, rectal underarm or oral, light for the end of the tunnel, parent proof stopper so you don't stick it in too far. Then along with that, people started finding other posts that had inappropriate, not even questionable. We can just say straight up inappropriate marketing. And then also their product packaging. It's always been like quippy.

Yeah, like supposed to be different, right? Like I said, they're like a new age millennia. This is like an archaic industry, and they were such a disruptor because they made all the best baby products in pargy packaging and funny captions, and they definitely took it too far.

Yeah. And so I don't know what this is, a pacifier or something, it says, I'm a power sucker. There's another one of a forehead touchless thermometer. It says, How about a Quakey? And then another one for a... What is it? Oh, this is like a humidifier or something. It says, I get turned on easily. Oh my God. No, it's all disgusting. And there's more and more and more. I can't believe we never noticed something like this. I know. I guess I'm not breathing.

I'm not, of course, looking in hindsight, it's like, Well, yeah, it's all weird. And it just took this one Instagram caption to get people to talk about it. I think when it comes to baby products, some people are really like, it's funny or whatever. I don't you can really ever take it too seriously or be too extreme in how careful you are. And there's a difference between being a funny company. They're saying funny things, versus being anything even remotely sexual when it comes to kids. Like, sorry, no. I call me I'm woke. I'm so cancely with this. Like, get out of here with that.

Agreed. Some of the Instagram captions have been archived. They're from 2020 and 2021. They reportedly include terms such as threesome and lube. Then people identified current team members listed on the company's website. They all had quotes about being parents. Those were all so weird. And now the team page was removed from the site.

It's giving Balenciaga. The difference is that this is a company Balenciaga was weird, but it was a company for adults. You're making things for kids. If you find yourself writing a piece of copy that even remotely could be interpreted as sexual, delete. What's wrong with people?

I don't know. And this seems to be their strategy. Strategy. I need to now look at everything in my house because I think a lot of them are like, do hit the nail on the head. No, no, no. And they get it right about whatever, gas or whatever. They make a little jokes.

About farts, yeah.

I don't read the packaging that intently or think about it.

When I'm coming from Frida, I'm obviously in a state of distress, and I'm tearing it open to take the temperature.

But seeing this all spelled out like this, it's disgusting. And I also think that there's probably a difference between the product team and the marketing team for a company like this. There's people who make great products for babies, and then they hire these- Packaging experts. Yeah, and these experts are disgusting, and they need a change of experts. Yeah, no. As a mom, and I know that they make the best of everything, but you literally bought me something, Frida, yesterday.

I did. I bought myself something for you yesterday.

Right before we saw this, because I wouldn't have bought it. The thing is- Until there's a change in the company. I'm sorry, this is disgusting.

It's disgusting, but I really don't feel like I should have to suffer. Do you know that until I found that nail clipper, I was making Ruby bleed every time. So I'm not going to make Ruby bleed just to take moral high ground.

But having said that, Frida- But now that you have your nail clipper, we're good.

Oh, no, in case I misplace it, I will be replacing it.

And you will misplace it. No, but I'm saying, Frida, do better, for real. And they're also the ones that did the breast milk ice cream. And that was weird. It was weird. At the time, I didn't think it was inappropriate.

They did a collab with Van Luyn or whatever making ice cream. I don't know if it was Van Luyn.

Breast milk ice cream. They paid a bunch of influencers.

Yeah, I was mad because they paid a bunch of influencers. They didn't pay me when I was actively breastfeeding. It's like, Well, support mothers. Half the people that they worked with weren't even mom.

Have nothing to do with this community.

Let alone, I'm here bleeding out breastfeeding, and you can't even pay me. That's why I was upset.

But when you think about it, what are we eating?

Breeding breastmilk. It's weird. Obviously, everything in hindsight now feels weird because it is weird.

At the time, I think, maybe even report about it, I can imagine they're like, Oh, yeah, they're celebrating breast milk. But now putting it all together It paints a different picture. It's very yucky.

And there was a boob on the container. Yeah, it's weird. I just think you can't be ever too sensitive around these things. No. There's no such thing as being too cautious. You should have so many systems in place that nothing I'm like, this can ever happen.

No, but this seems to be the point. This isn't like, oh, we fucked up. We didn't see it that way. Sorry. This seems to be the intent.

Yeah. My pitch fork is out. I'm being a Karen.

I want heads to roll.

Yeah, no, I need people fired. And I need Yeah, which we never get.

But I do need some change in leadership.

One thing about a community to piss off, you don't want to piss off the mamas.

No, and not in this way. This is the worst thing you could do.

Especially given the current climate.

And I feel I feel like people like to act like Balenciaga has bounced back, but I know in my heart that it hasn't.

But it hasn't. Only within celebrities. And maybe, yes, over time, when all these celebrities are wearing it. I literally saw... Who was it? It was someone's kid wearing a Balenciaga I'm like, Yucky. Like a celebrity kid. I can't remember who it was. The celebrities are back full force. I know there has been a change in designer, but I don't feel like ever accountability was really taken.

No, there was no accountability. And the mamas don't forget.

No, the mamas don't forget. And So this is really bad. Yeah.

I'm really icked out. I'll be looking at my Frida products differently.

I know. Still using them though.

And I'll be thinking... Yeah, the ones I already own, I'm not giving them.

Yeah, because I won't suffer.

I'm not giving them new money.

Me and my family won't suffer. No.

But when the time comes to give new money, I am going to look for another brand on the show.

I'm going to read the packaging.

Oh, for sure. I'm going to be following this closely to hear any statement from free to self. We're not going to let this go. Yeah. Yeah. So messed up.

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She's back. Our fifth and final story, Olympian Breezy Johnson gets engaged after her boyfriend proposes at the Olympics finish line. So yes, our bunker's Olympic news of the day. We have an Olympic engagement, which it's not an Olympics if someone doesn't get proposed to at the finish line. No.

And there's lots of controversy around this. People being like, he's stealing her moment. And people are just insufferable because I feel like the last Olympics, some girl proposed to her husband and everybody was up in arms, rightfully so. And now it's flipped. He's stealing her moment. She has said that if she ever got engaged, she wanted it to be when she won. Yeah. And so he's just doing what she asked. Leave her alone.

She said this is what she wanted. And it's also like, yeah, she won gold, but she doesn't know if her man is going to propose. So you can't just say, Do it here. You still have to play the game of, is he or isn't he?

I mean, also, no wonder she won gold. The potential of getting engaged, that will propel a woman forward.

I agree. Do you think that you can get in cage if you won silver or bronze?

No, I really don't.

I don't think you should.

Yeah, you lost.

No, you didn't lose.

And then there's also a Taylor Swift element here.

She commented because- Yeah, she commented with some lyrics from the Alchemy.

Because that little proposal, he gave her this little thing that said, Who are we to fight the alchemy? Which is all about being in love while also being an athlete. Who are we? Touchdown got the amateurs and won the winning team. So it was very It was there. It was athletic. It was there. She commented, which is just as exciting as getting engaged. Honestly, maybe more.

Yeah. Taylor's really loving the Olympics. She's just a girl. Yeah. She still has her Peacock subscription from watching her mother-in-law in The Trade Des.

What do you mean she's loving the Olympics?

What else? She also made a video for the Olympic team saying, Go get them.

Okay, why?

Goats. Goats, get them. Goats going to go. She just made a testimonial. It honestly looked like a cameo of her being like, Go team USA. You guys have worked so hard. That's so sweet. Yeah. And now she's following this closely.

I love that. She's literally just a girl. And she doesn't go to work every day. I'm sorry. She works every day, but she doesn't go to 9: 00 to 5: 00. I imagine she does have big chunks in her day to fill with time while she's off tour.

So watching the Olympics. And I imagine the Olympics is like the Venn diagram of Taylor and Travis. It's like the Olympics is in the middle of things they can watch together. In addition to Love is Blind, which, by the way, is like, coming back, we have to watch.

Okay. I find Love is Blind. It's literally a factory now. Do you know what I mean? I could not name one person besides Sparkle Megan from the last season.

Okay, but I just want you to know Sparkle Megan has given me more than anything has given in a while.

I find Love is Blind to be a factory, and I'm so over it. But Sometimes I'll start the season with everyone, and of course, it turns out to be a season that no one's watching. And I'm recapping it and nobody cares. Then sometimes I'm like, you know what? I'm not doing it. And it's like the banger season. So I'm just going to see. I don't see really anyone talking about it.

Can I say something that's going to lead into our next subject, which is traitors. I feel that way about traitors. If we weren't watching it, everyone's talking about, You have to watch traitors. It's amazing. And I'm watching it last night, and I'm not enjoying myself. But Objectively, it's not very good.

So I agree with you today, and I think that last night was the first time I felt that way. Now, spoilers will be in now.

I'm enjoying watching it. I'm excited to recap it, but I was also watching it with Zack, who's only watched a couple of episodes with me. So I was sensitive to how he might be feeling about the show, and I'm a little embarrassed because it's very stupid and not good.

Well, I have only felt that way starting last night. Up until last night, every episode I watched, I'm on the edge of my seat, me and Ben talking about how this is the best show ever made. Michelangelo could never. And last night, Ben I were watching like, literally half on our phones. It was such a bad episode, especially when they opened the episode. I was just saying yesterday how quite literally, Dorinda is the only person on the show I'm even remotely familiar with, and I guess I'm rooting for her.

She wasn't even on the episode. Last week, we were toggling between rooting for Dorinda or Steven. No, no.

And literally, the two remaining people on the show who I was remotely familiar with and liked Argonne, we are left. And it's exactly what you said when we just first started recapping the show, is that it seems like anyone who stands out, who has a personality, who goes for things, is punished for that. That's exactly what happened. We are left with the six most unremarkable people.

Sorry. And the herd and the people who aren't really thinking critically, who are no threat to the traders because they're so off the mark.

And now people are like, Well, She didn't even figure it out. There's no one left. There's six people left, and apparently, they don't even know how many traders technically there are. So her looking at Eric, it's like, Well, it only took you 11 round tables.

There's six people left. We all have to look at each other, and you're actually not looking at the one mastermind, the one.

It's really insane what Rob has done. I know people are saying he's a villain, whatever. It is remarkable the game he has played. Alan Cummings was on Watch Revenues Live, and somebody asked, who's the best trader? He said, Rob is the best player I've ever seen in the entire game.

Now that I am moved on from the last two episodes with Ronan and Candice, and I come back to the game and just watching the game and my feelings are no longer involved. Yes, I can agree that Rob is a great traitor. I think the game is flawed in a number of ways. One, it rewards the least interesting, most boring, worst game players because they stick around because they are bad. And there needs to be a way for traders to not turn on traders because then you can turn on your trader immediately. You get a trader. And that's an easy way to win. It's an easy... He cracked the code.

I don't think anybody's ever done that before. He definitely cracked some code.

There needs to be an incentive for the traders to win together. They should have to look out for one another because, yeah, it was like he just threw them under the bus.

Easy peasy, lemon squeezey. Yeah. I don't even know what to recap, except was anyone else so confused by that challenge? I was not following it at all. Yeah. Some of the challenges are so confusing. Actually, a lot of them are. And when they explain the rules, I feel like you, when someone explains a game to you. You're just like, okay.

Yeah, they're not really for me. But you got less physical challenges.

Yes, yes. The box was giving me a pit. I could never. Yeah.

It's funny. Tara and Johnny's friendship was really put through the winger this episode.

Not only that. When they said their big reveal. First of all, you could hear a pin drop. Nobody cared. The fact that they kept the secret this entire time was so lame. Maybe it would have been a good idea if things had panned out differently. But them sharing that to an audience of three people, quite literally, who were not shocked and didn't care.

No one just said, Oh, so you're liars. Okay. Yes.

Rob was right. Them saying it now, to what benefit? I'm not sure, except now that everyone knows that you're capable of keeping a big secret.

Well, and they were able to save themselves for one more day.

I do think one of them- Rob should They have to save both of them because it looks like they both might be traitors. If one of them gets out, it's like, Well, Tara's fine because Johnny was not. They should work hard to keep them both. Who do you think that they killed at the end?

Who did they have to choose between? They had Kristen. Oh, I think Natalie. I think they fight.

Rob Rob should have Kristen go because Kristen said, If I get sent home, it was Eric. Yeah. So he's just like, his game plan has been working, which is throwing his fingers on the box.

But he did let Eric know that.

Oh, this was just the first time. Yeah, I know. So he's not going to let-Right.

So he's not doing the Candice.

This was the first time, though, that I feel like something... Nobody noticed it, of course, but maybe they'll look back. The Rob thing with the double dagger, Natalie being like, You have to tell everyone. It was a bad look for him. I don't really understand why he kept it. And then being forced to tell it from Natalie under distress. It's giving liar.

But also, why did Natalie need him to say?

I don't know. I don't know.

Maybe if they send home Natalie, they would look back at that. But they just think Natalie is a stronger player than she is, and then she'll figure it out, which she won't. But I guess out of the people who are still there, she's the biggest threat because she's the smartest. I guess. Who's up for killing? Natalie, Kristen, Tara, Johnny.

Natalie, Kristen, Johnny.

We're not going to kill Tara, Johnny.

They shouldn't, and that would be dumb. I don't care about the others. If he wants to throw Eric under the bus, sure. Get rid of Kristen.

But I don't think... He already told Eric that, so they're not going to do it. I think they're going to kill Natalie.

But there's so much suspicion on Natalie. That's the other thing. It's a good It's a distraction. There's no suspicion on Kristen.

No, but she said- Then it leads everyone to Eric, so that's a good another distraction.

Kristen, let people keep splitting the vote over Natalie, Johnny, and Tierra.

No, Natalie has pretty much gotten out from under the suspicion. She was in the hot seat for a little bit with the antidote, but people seem to believe that she's not a traitor.

I loved Steven's speech being like, You blew it. You blew it. He literally told everyone, I'm a fucking faithful. It was such bad evidence, too. How does nobody, to this day know how to spell his name. I understood in the beginning, they were spelling Portia's name wrong, but Candice, they sped everyone's name wrong.

But when would they ever learn the spelling? I don't know.

Is anybody going to tell them?

No, I think that's part of the game.

It is funny. There should be an award, like an extra bonus money at the end if there was a contestant who spelled everyone's name right. Yeah.

I love Steven. I think the show has been so good for him. I don't know what he's doing in his personal life right now, but I hope him and Chris can get back together.

And the thing is, is that guy? Yeah. He's been that guy since high school. He was such a- He's even better than that. The show was so good for him. He was the only one who stood up for Ron. He played like an honorable game. He never threw anybody under the bus. He was always letting the girls get the shield and the girls go up the hill first. This was a great... I'm sure he I don't have a hard time catching tail, but spread him. Yeah. He's such a cutie. And he's aging so beautifully. Yeah, he is. Handsome boy.

No, they're all just looking at each other and they don't feel... They feel like, Oh, I don't feel like it's Johnny I don't feel like it's her. I don't feel like it's Steven or whatever.

No one has said the name Rob.

Look at someone else.

What we're doing is we're a gang.

And why doesn't anyone look at Mark?

Or Mora. Oh, and Maura is like, such a stereotype. Like, she's so blinded by love. Like, they're all like, nobody's thinking of Rob. It's definitely like a male privilege thing. Like, he's playing it really well, but also like, he's a tough guy. He's going to protect us. Maura is just like, okay, Rob. Like, she's in love with him.

Yeah, but she's also like, he's also the only person who Who she knows. She knew going into it. That's like Tara and Johnny would be like, if one of them were a traitor.

And I wonder if one of them had been a traitor, what they would have done.

That would have been interesting. They probably would have had a mental breakdown, like trying to keep it from their best friend.

Yeah.

But why doesn't anyone look at Mark? Why do they just assume Mark is a faithful?

Can I ask people who watch a previous season, is it always this? I feel like the climax is really in the beginning, finding out who the traitor. And with each episode, it gets less and less climactic. Is that Is that just this season in particular, or is that just a thing with the show?

And also, unless you are the trader who wins, it's actually embarrassing to win, to go all the way to the end.

You look so stupid. Even people who are smart, it's just a hard thing to figure out.

No, it just means that nobody found you threatening, smart, or interesting enough to eliminate earlier on. Because if we get the faithfuls winning, and it's like, Mark, sorry, Mark, Kristen, Mora, and Natalie.

Okay, but I'm thinking of last year because I remember when they were on Watchdrap Inside, it was Dorinda, Zac Efron, and Gabby Wendy.

No, it wasn't. Dorinda got out night one.

Oh, sorry, not Dorinda. Dolores. Sorry.

No, I don't think it was Dolores. I think was a traitor. It was Gabby Wendy, Dylan Efron. Dylan. You're whatever. Lord Mount Baton.

Yeah, it was. You're right.

And a fourth. I remember when we found out that four people weren't traitors, we were like, what fucking show is this?

But thank God, if we had to wait three more extra weeks.

Yeah, I know. Okay. Let me see if it was Dolores.

Maybe not. I just remember her being on Watch Reven's Live.

Because she was on... Oh, no, she won. She won. Okay.

Good for her. But they were all faithfuls?

The last main traitor was Brittany Haynes. They were all faithfuls. All faithful victory. Okay, I won't spoil any further seasons just in case I decide to watch.

Let's also talk about the Real Hot Size of Beverly Hills, which was also a dud of an episode, but the dichotomy of both dinners was cracking me up. That turnt dinner and Erica finding out in real time that she wasn't invited to the Hamptons, and they're having this- Why did Rachel only invite Kyle and Doree because they needed a night out and she's trying to get them back together?

I guess. I wanted it to be a big group trip.

No, even if it wasn't, I understand her inviting Doree, but I don't really... She doesn't like Kyle. I don't know why she invited her. It looks like they're having the best time. Just Donna Karen, it was so everything. And cutting to this extremely weird dinner when they're all manifesting in journals, and I didn't even know that other girl there. It was so weird.

It was. I want to say about that dinner, maybe I didn't watch as closely as I needed to, but I'm not really with Sutton. I am feeling for Amanda in this one situation of she didn't really bring up this... Kyle drove that conversation with her about Dreet saying too much. Then she went to Cathy's house and recounted that conversation and said- She didn't recount it.

She regurgitated it as her own thought, and that's why Sutton told Dreet. She never said- She didn't say that's what Kyle said. She said, Don't you guys feel like this is bad for her marriage? And Sutton was like, Who the fuck are you? I'm actually so team Sutton.

Okay. I just feel like when Amanda said, You're teaching me how to clean up this mess that you made, I'm like, Yeah. Well, that's the show. Sorry. It is the show a little bit, but it just made me feel like, Oh, this is a little stupid. It is stupid. I'm going to tell someone what you said, and I'm going to also tell you how to fix it. And it's like, what if you just never told them what I said? Because I just was sharing an innocent thought with you.

In the real world, yes. But in housewise world- I know.

But in housewise world, we need something a little more thick than that. Yeah.

I can't stand Amanda. I just hate her.

And I'm not saying that I love her or anything, but in that moment, I'm like, this is pretty stupid what we're talking about. And that she's going to be taken to test and that nobody can move on unless she cops to it. Cops to it saying something that everybody else has said. And as a viewer, I am feeling a little bit. It's a little... And I love to read so much, but I'm worried. Just like Kyle said, I'm worried that she's saying too much. This isn't good to say on national television when you're in the middle of active, tense negotiation.

I think they really want you to suspend disbelief and just imagine this is a normal group of friends. And this random new girl who's rubbing people a bad way, saying it as her own thought. Yeah, she can go back and forth with Kyle. Kyle has earned a right to comment. This random girl who she's actually at that point had met twice, has no right to make any commentary, whether she thinks she's being helpful or not. I just also can't fucking stand her.

No, I know.

Also, let's talk about the Mauricio dinner, which was really weird. Any hopes for them two having an affair is out the window. I don't It's just frustrating when someone's saying A and someone's saying B. Which one is it?

Yeah. Was their term sent or not? Did you get a Google spreadsheet? The friend that Mauricio is to PK is the friend that Kyle is supposed to be being towards Doreet.

Kyle and her confessionals is so nasty. She doesn't act great in front of Doreet, but her confessionals are so nasty, so quippy for no reason. Yeah.

Because she's holding her tongue in front of Doreet because she's been told that that's what she should do, that She shouldn't express it. God forbid, she be supportive.

She can't be supportive, so she has to be quiet.

No, she can't because in her heart, she's not supportive. I don't care what Mauricio says, what PK says, what Kyle says is true. I just know what's going on in that it's Doreet is holding everything together, and PK is out globe-trotting, and then comes home and says, At 3: 00 AM, I want to see the kids. She's like, You can't see the kids. Then he says, She won't let me see my kids. It's like, They're sleeping.

No, I know that Kyle and Mauricio claim they have proof that negates everything she says, but I believe Doreet.

No, I just know.

She's home with the kids. She has the stories about her dad. She's the one who says, I've noticed a change in Jagger. I'm sorry, I just believe Dorit.

No, she's the one keeping them on their schedule, on their routine.

And the fact that Kyle, who's also going through a divorce of her own, and just as a woman who's been around other women who have gone through divorces, the fact that her first instinct isn't to defend Doreet, sometimes maybe her first instinct would be to believe Doreet, and then she starts hearing things, and maybe she starts having no. From the get-go last season, she just does not believe Doreet.

Yeah, I've seen people speculate that this is keeping her and Mo tight, and her being on his side might help her five favor in his eyes. Also, I think even at the Hamptons thing, when they're like, We're all divorced, and she's like, I'm separated.

She refuses.

I think she's just still holding on, and she doesn't want to be in this basket of divorce, scorn women with Dorit. And so she's like, No, I'm over here. Everything's copacetic. Dorit, you're wrong.

No, so true. Loving Rachel Zell. I have to say that every recap.

Loving.

Whose house was that in the Hamptons? Not hers. I thought it was hers. Just interesting. Even her packing. I Just everything about her is fascinating.

No, just watching her. She's like, just her hair is so shiny.

Her sister look exactly like...

Oh, I didn't see her sister. That was her sister?

Yeah, they're at their friend's house, and then the sister was there waiting for them, the blonde one.

God, I must have missed this.

Her name is Pamela. Or maybe that was the friend.

I must have looked down.

Yeah, it was like a boring episode. Erica's commentary was cracking me up.

I can't keep going over this point about the Amanda and who said it. Just drop it and move on and let's find something new to argue about.

Agreed. We'll find something quickly.

Because It's just not that... It's not big enough to be multiple episodes.

The trailer that we got was for the remainder of the season.

It's a little scary. Doreet and Erica fighting.

Doreet versus everyone. I feel like that's going to make Kyle feel so vindicated, but Kyle's so wrong.

Well, Doreet is in a bad spot. She has so much going on that she can't help but make every conversation about herself. She can't help but relate everything back to herself because that's what's going on. How can she be any other way? I imagine it's exhausting as her friend at a certain point, but what is she going to show up and pretend like she didn't just have the worst fucking day.

The walking away with a cigarette in the corset. Oh, the Italy trip looks good.

They look like a good trip. I feel like Rachel and Boze will continue to have Doreet's back. I did not like what appeared to be Doreet and Erica fighting.

Well, that's been an undercurrent is that Erica is a real moral compass. She's not super involved anymore, but she gives it to everyone straight, and she refuses to hold Kyle accountable in the least, but she's so excited to do it for everyone else. It's annoying. If you're going to be an impartial moral compass, you got to come for everyone, and she doesn't.

Yeah.

Let's do Queeny of the Weanie to wrap up the week. Okay, Queeny and Weenie is our final segment of the week, where Jackie and I give out two awards, Queeny of the Week and Weenie of the Week. Don't take it personally. If you act like a queenie this week, you might be queeny of the Week. And if you act like Weenie of the Week, you might be a weenie this week. Side of the deal, seven-day title. You could be queenie one week and weenie the next. You know how it goes. What do you want to do first?

Queenie. We always start with the positive. Okay. My queenie is Utah.

My queenie is also Utah. I wrote junta, but I meant Utah. Agreed.

Junta is how you spell it. It's Utah.

No, I wrote J-U-N-T-A. In case you're looking at mine thinking like I copied you.

No, I It's a type of title. Jenta means Utah? Yes, exactly. Utah leerdem, one gold. She can finally celebrate that, move- Get married. With Jake, get married, have babies. I'm so, so happy for all her hard work that We watched on Paul-American Petal.

Very full circle for us, too.

Very full circle for the viewers. It was just amazing.

Happy for the Dutch, the Neanderthals.

Yes, me as well.

My weaning of the Week is Olympics-coated as well, and it brings me to a story I've been dying to tell you.

Oh, okay. Okay. Why Can you add it to our bonkers Olympic news segment?

Because I had already had it for my Weenie.

Were you nervous every time I brought up the Olympic?

No, I know you have no idea what I'm about to say. Because my weaning of the week is a French woman named Jezebel Dua. Do you know her?

No, but I love her for that name.

So I'm sure you know Chalk and Bates, the figure skating duo, man and Woman. Like really the leading figure skaters for America. They're a married couple. She is gorgeous. He is super cute. They're the it couple this year, and it was just a matter of time before they won. And a A couple of nights ago, it was their final dance, and they came in second to a clearly subpar couple from France. Now, okay, people, it's sports. Very sad. Some people win, some people lose. But there is a bit of a scandal going on, thanks to a woman named Jezebel Dubosc. Now, how it works in figure skating is there's a delegation from each country that gives a score for each competitor. I think there was eight countries competing, US, France, Italy, all of them. And each of the judges from each country. Now, it should be... I now have a problem with the scoring because from your country, you shouldn't be able to vote. Whatever. But Jezebel Dubois of France gave the Americans such a low score, eight points lower than the French couple, and much lower than all the other judges. For the most part, all the other judges, a couple of points, max four.

Theirs was eight points lower because she cheated. First of all, it's just a flawed system. I didn't even realize that's how people were voting. You shouldn't be able to give a score to your own delegation. She gave them eight points higher. Everyone has a vested interest, so people are going to be shady. They came in second when they clear... The French team was fucking up. They were not the winner at all. Then there's also drama with the man. He has some allegations. Just bad. Jezebel Dubat. If the Olympics don't have integrity, nobody does.

It's supposed to be- I didn't realize they were so subjective. I realized that they were to some degree subjective for the judging of like, skating and gymnastics.

It's not like a score to point. Yeah, right.

But that they could be so willy-nilly.

Jezebel Dubois. Say her name. Jezebel Dubois.

I would love to say that name Jezebel Dubois.

What a name. And of course, her name is Jezebel. Dubois. Acting like true to her namesake.

Like Allison Dubois.

Of course. Your figure skater will never emotionally fulfill you.

Jezebel Dubois.

Who's your weaning?

My weaning, I'm remiss to name them weaning, I fear they might like it too much, is Frida Baby.

Yeah.

Frida Baby is the weaning of the week.

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