Transcript of You're Seeing Trouble: Friday, February 6th, 2026

Good morning, girlies. It's The Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's The Toast.

They sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Friday. Hope everybody's having an amazing final day of the week. Congratulations. We made it to the end of the week. I'm so honored and scared to be joined by my co-host today, Jennifer.

Jennifer?

Yeah, it's like that Megan Fox movie, Jennifer's Body, where Minka Kelly or whoever the other one is.

Was that your intro that you were working on, Jennifer?

Yeah, what intro What intro were you working on?

You're not seeing double.

You're seeing trouble. Tiktok, let's make that later. Yeah, I came in in an outfit that I worked hard to procure. It's a matching set, and Jackie was like, Oh, I just got that set. She happened to have just picked up her mail, and she has here because we got an NPR. She's like, What if I just put it on?

I thought, though, first of all, it's sitting here. There's one package here. It's the same outfit that Koji has. We're so cute and adorable. We've been so simpatico. It's such Friday vibes. It's giving middle school when it was like, Pajama day.

We're like those girls who synced up.

Yeah, I feel like we're bananas in pajamas.

It's also giving Miriam Webster to find stalker for me.

But you went with Jennifer.

Yeah, I had three seconds to come up with something like, Sorry, I'm just doing my best.

You're not seeing double.

You're seeing trouble. Those two moronic twins who made quite literally no impact.

Can you say it and go cross-eye?

Let me get my solo camera ready. You're not seeing double. You're seeing trouble. Going cross-side is my party trick. It makes every joke so much funnier. I'd like to thank the Lord for giving me that ability. I've been doing it since I'm a kid, and I used to do it for the sisters as a kid to freak everyone out, and now I do it to get a chuckle. It's really one of my talents.

It's a beautiful It's a terrible thing to be hoping.

And when I do it on the toaster, like colloquially, I don't go full because I'm afraid to go full. I was always told as a kid, I get to get stuck that way. So if you want to, I can show you because people are like, You don't really look that cross-side. Well, you haven't seen me yet. Ready? Okay.

What'd you just do?

That This is my joke, cross-side. This is my joke.

I can't see you. Oh, sorry.

But this is my full-fledged 100% cross-side. I'm scared. I get scared to do it.

Okay, I'm not. Don't do it. I can I see you in the reflection. Yeah. Go back.

You're not seeing Zabel. You're seeing Zabel. So yeah, we're wearing matching outfits.

And for that alone, I'm so glad that we are.

Yeah.

We're just adorable.

Wait, you know what's so funny?

What's so funny?

I can't hear anything. I don't know why I'm wearing headphones. Oh, they're I'm not on. Just turning it up. Hello, hello, hello, hello.

I thought you just wear them for the look.

Well, some days I didn't have a ton of time to run the dice in through my hair this morning, and I am on day six hair, so I didn't do a full- But when you have $100,000 hair- I don't wear the headphones. So just know if I am wearing the headphones, it's because I feel insecure. Sometimes also I feel like a big pair of headphones just makes my face look really small. It's called contrast.

But it doesn't really matter what's coming through the headphones is all I'm saying. It's not about- But I do like to hear both of our voices in my ears.

I feel like it fuels me to be the best podcaster I can be.

Okay. I feel like you are a fantastic podcaster.

I definitely agree with that. I'm also a Pulsey podcaster because we're so on the pulse. Real Hot Spouse, Beverly Hills, Trader's episodes both dropped last night. Jack and I stayed up late watching them both, so we can recap them both for you today. So that will be today's episode. Don't do not worry.

Yeah. At the end of the show, we'll recap. I'm excited. But we also have a lot of really good stories today.

Thank God.

Like, random for Friday. Good. That the stories are a slay.

Sometimes, Fridays is the perfect time for random tech news or like... Oh, yeah.

We almost had some food news yesterday about how McDonald's is giving out caviar in the kids' meals or something. Oh, that's weird. I didn't read it in full. But no, none of that today. None of that nonsense.

Okay.

Just pure pop culture.

Oh, yeah.

All the time.

Oh, yeah. We played Majang yesterday after the toast. I won three times. Some days you have it, some days you don't. Yeah. And I happened to have had it. That's always a good That is a good feeling.

I'm excited for the new card to come out.

Yeah. Everyone in the Maj community- You know I have my favorite runs.

I just feel like the people who have been playing all year, the way that I have three or four runs booked and I can see them in every hand, they have that for so many hands. I feel like it will set the playing field.

So it's my understanding that the cards aren't that different. That's what I thought.

I thought just 2025 becomes 2026.

They might make a couple of adjustments, but for the most part, I couldn't really tell which year the card is from. It's pretty similar.

That's what I thought, but then someone said, No, it's not.

Well, maybe the person you were talking to was crazy.

They had the card. I forgot my card, and they only had 2024. It was like, No, it's so different. Really? Yeah. Let me just look at 2024. I just hope my personal favorites make it fair.

What is your first personal favorite Majong sequence?

I don't want to say. I feel like that puts everyone onto me.

I know you love a 2468.

I don't. That's not what I was going to say. You do.

Okay, I'm looking at the 2024 card. It's a lot of the same stuff.

Some new stuff. Let me see if my favorite one's in there, and then I'll know.

I want to know which your favorite is.

I feel like I can't tell you because I always know I'm playing it.

It's just hard You're going to have to consider your own tiles before everyone else's.

That's always what you do. Oh, no, my favorite's not there.

Okay, so now I'll be able to deduce based on what's there and what's not.

And the 2026 card- That person is going to jail because you're not allowed to take a picture of the card.

Yeah, you're not. So jail. I don't even bother photocopying it.

Oh, no, jail.

The rules for Majang are so strict. I actually appreciate that they've kept the sanctity of the game.

Yeah.

And that's how it's been passed down from generation to generation. Yeah.

Of the Jean.

I keep singing this morning, And my mama told me it's all right, you were dancing through the lightning strike. Because I'm sure we have a story about Taylor Swift's new music video. We don't. Oh, okay. Let's talk about it really quickly.

Right.

It was a star studied on ensemble because it was actually really cute. I guess she wasn't even supposed to do a music video for Opalite. But when she went on the Graham Norton show, which is this turnt show in the UK where they have six celebrities being interviewed at the same exact time. And she was with this group of actors, musicians, things of that nature, someone, Dom Hall-Gleeson. What is he from? I was going to say Ron Weasley, but that's not Ron Weesley. Whatever. He made a joke about being in a Chela Smith music video, and she said it gave her this idea. So she cast everyone from that. Jody Turner-Smith, Kylian Murphy. He was in it very little. I got the vibe that he was just doing it, so he wasn't the only one not there. But his participation was a photo of himself and voiceover, so he didn't leave his house. But it was super cute. I loved it, and I loved the concept of including all these people. I'm not going to lie, if she didn't put at the very end, she put a clip from the Graham Norton interview where Tom O'Gleason says that he wants to be in a Taylor Swift music video.

A Louis Capaldi is in it, your boyfriend. I might not have. Maybe I will watch. I might not have noticed. I might have recognized Tom O'Gleason. I'm like, Oh, that's cute. You cast this one random guy.

You just want to keep saying Damal Gleeson.

Because I can pronounce it, and I'm better than everyone else.

What is it? How is that spelled?

D-o-m. I feel like there might be an N after that. Yeah, H-A-L-L. Oh, man, I'm literally so smart.

Damal Gleeson.

But I think it's Nomenal.

I don't know him.

Yes, you do. What's he from? Is he from Ex Machina?

Ex Machina, yeah. Okay.

Can we talk about time? Of course. Let's also talk about Ex Machina. Did you ever see it? No. It was like a movie that I don't know the lasting impact on culture or cinematography, but the lasting impact on me was insane. I just accidentally saw this movie, and the way I never forgot it, Alicia McCander, she dropped off. She is a robot, and then Dom Hall is obsessed with her, and they're locked in this house together. Or no, they're just living in a house together. And Dom Hall falls for the robot, and then the robot ends up locking Don Hall in the house for eternity. He's still in there right now. He probably died. But a spooky movie. I'm just quite sad. I want to say that maybe like a precursor to the dangers of AI.

Oh, for sure. Sure. Though anyone could always... That's like, so low-hanging fruit. It's so true. Like, the robots are going to kill us.

Yeah. And it's like, no. If only we should be so lucky that that's our fate. Yeah. We'll end up killing each other.

It's true.

Well, he was great in the music video, and it was super cute. It was like very '80s. Opalight is like a product, like Windex, and it solves all your problems. It makes the only people not lonely. She becomes friends with Damaal. It was really cute.

You just want to say Damaal more. I'll pick more stories about him in the future.

The morning Dommal, okay. She also has brown hair the entire time. It's meant to be like an ugly wig, but I actually thought she looked amazing. Oh, cute. Yeah. I like when she changes up her hair in music videos, of course. Babe comes to mind when she was a sexy red-headed secretary.

Oh, la la. And all too well.

Of course. Like a very sophisticated author. When she was the author.

Yeah.

Must be fun. If you could have any other color hair, what would it be?

I don't know. Brown. Oh, really? Not brown. Oh, you hate my hair? Okay. No, no, no. I feel like a darker version of my hair, like an Auburn brown.

I would go for a blonde. Okay. But I would just have to be tan all the time. Okay. Do it. Should I? No. I really care about the integrity of my strands.

We can't just be people who change their hair. We are beacons of consistency and reliability. And if we're showing up here all the time with different colored hair, that's just not who we are.

For the community. Not only that, I think that people value different values.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Yeah.

And I think for us, something that's really important, I think that's integral to our success success is just consistency. And not to say that people who change their hair a lot are inconsistent, but you do have to have this I would say that-joie de vivre.

I would say people who change their hair a lot are inconsistent with their hair color.

That's beautiful.

I think that's I think that's fair. I think that's fair to say.

That's absolutely sick.

I agree. Like so much of Jacks and Claude, it's literally like changing your name at this. It's Jacks and Claude, we're Brown and Red.

It's so true. It's so true. We couldn't. The future of this show depends on the It's the consistency of our hair.

It'd be like, you got a dog that wasn't a King Charles.

Well, that would actually just be funny. Speaking of dogs, Romeo was up. I felt like a newborn up every three hours having diarrhea. Oh my God. Thankfully, that was not my problem. Ben had to go take him outside. It's freezing. Here at night. I was already on the fence about Romeo, but him messing with my sleep. Oh, no. Yeah, no. My eight-month-old slept through the night. My two-year-old dog did not.

And that affected your sleep score.

Yes. This is my first... My Oura ring is back. Did I tell everyone that yesterday?

Is that why your sleep score was not Pardjilish?

79. 179. I imagine it had a lot to do with...

Romeo. Romeo, wherefore, out thou?

Yeah, I'm not loving the aura ring. I think it's nice I have an aura ring when it's a means of a bragging. The last time I got an aura ring, I was at my peak physical health.

It's hard when you're in a bad spot.

I'm not in a bad spot. I'm just not in an active spot, and I refuse to consider that bad.

Well, I feel like you're more active than you think that you are.

Well, yeah, I would have thought so, too. I thought that once I had my aura ring, I'm up all day. I'm taken here. We're going to music class. It's not the gym, but I'm doing stuff all day. And before I became a mom, my activity score was never below a 90. But that's because it's easy to get an aura When you're in the most active phase of your life, it's not even helping you at that point. It's just bragging. Yeah.

And what are your goals for getting an Oura Ring now?

That's a really good question. When I got the aura ring the last time around, I got it to track my body temperature for when I wanted to get pregnant. Of course, I'm not there yet. But I did wish that I had like, years of data.

Or a new clogged cell. Exactly.

So it took me like two, three months because I needed to get my own data. So I'm hoping to have like, years worth of data when I'm I need to go. Okay. So that's what I'm doing. Although I hate sleeping with a ring. I forgot about that feeling. Yeah. And then the green light, and I had a night light in my room. It was weird.

Well, that's exciting that you're on your aura journey.

I'm not So, you know.

But you will be. The aura just takes over.

You think it's going to encourage me to be more...

Yeah. Like, you'll want to hit your activity. So like, okay, let's go for a little walk. Like, it doesn't have to be insane. You don't have to train for a 5K, but like, just little bits and bobs.

Yeah, I guess.

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Our first story, amazing news. Molly May and Tommy Fury are expecting baby number two after their reconciliation. So Molly May hog and Tommy Fury, who fans love from Love Island, are now expecting their second child, which is major news because even if you don't follow the couple, you've probably been following the toast. And in August of 2024, the two who were engaged actually split up. They were broken up for six months before they started to get back together. Now they've been- It was also insinuated at that time that there was something really nefarious going on.

That awful, dreadful-looking woman said that she hooked up with Tommy in Dubai. But it's since been, I think, realized by people that all of that was a lie. They never spoke on it, but it was clear that Tommy was going through just fighting some personal demons. And for Bambi and Mollie. Mollie's self, she decided to step away from the relationship at the time. But it seems like he's done a lot of work on himself.

Yes. They maintain that there was never any cheating, that it was more so just alcohol issues. Like, him just being a completely different person when he drank one that they didn't and couldn't be around. But they've been back together for probably on it, total, a year now, and they're expecting their second child. She posted a video of the two of them and Bambi, Bambilish, saying she's going to be a big sister. She talks like Peppa Pig. I'm going to be a big sister.

Actually, big news with Peppa Pig was that her brother recently shared he's been diagnosed as partially deaf.

Yeah, her brother George is moderately deaf. He shared his truth. So that was big for the Peppa Stan.

No, that's really beautiful. I feel like as a deaf child, that must be awesome. I just feel like everyone's moderately deaf or nobody's listening to me. I just want to say I never heard of moderately deaf before. But listen, it's important for the kids. But that's George's truth. And I'm not stepping on George's toes. I didn't mean to. No. So I don't follow Molly as closely as you do, but I feel bad for her because... And I'm not even on Molly talk, but she had posted... She has been consistently vlogging, obviously, while hiding the pregnancy.

She's a vlogger. And a lifestyle influencer and a designer.

And she was filming herself, and there was an oven behind her. And in the reflection of the oven, people saw a bump. And I don't know, that was two days ago. And then she shared the... So maybe that was like an- Well, I just want to say as a Molly Stan, that didn't make its way to me yet.

So I feel like they were probably going to announce soon, but maybe she wanted to get in front of it before everybody knew, and then she announced. So I was still totally surprised. Now, of course, I've wondered, will Bambi have a sibling? And on her documentary, she talks about how she really wants to give Bambi a sibling, how she's very close with her sister, and that's very important to her. But the last two years, things have been up in the air because her and Tommy weren't even together. So this is just a beautiful next chapter for this beautiful family. And you know what? It goes to show nothing's perfect. Nobody's perfect. Everybody has their trials and tribulations.

Even these idyllic relationships. They're literally royalty in the UK. Even they. So maybe you should text him back.

Maybe you should text him back. Yeah. Or forgiveness. It's a beautiful thing. It is. And people can change.

And I forgive you.

I didn't say sorry. I know.

But I know you are because I know you.

And what am I sorry? You know what? For being too good of a sister, setting the bar too high. You know why. These other bitches.

Yeah.

For what?

You know why.

You forgive me for something? I forgive you. For what?

For throwing that ass in a circle like that. Like that wasn't cool. I am. But I know you know that now.

I am who I am.

I know you know that now, and you didn't do it to hurt me.

Just hurt you.

Correct.

Anyway, so thrilled for the furies now. I don't want to put pressure, but let's get back to that engagement at some point.

Yeah, even though being in a long term committed engagement is a very chic thing to do. Although I do believe that they will get married.

It seems as though she's wearing her ring in this video. She had stopped wearing her ring. It's not like they got back together and they're engaged.

It's also weird.

Does he have to propose again?

That's a great question. When you break up temporarily as an engaged couple, where does that leave the pending engagement?

Yeah, I think he should have to propose again.

Yeah, why not? It's always fun to get a piece of jewelry.

Yeah. This one's tainted.

I need another one. Yeah, agreed. Now, I wasn't a conscious mother when she announced her last pregnancy and then the name of her baby. And Bambi's definitely unique and different. So I'm really curious, did she say what it is?

I don't know. I feel like it's a girl.

The video was black and white.

Yeah. Maybe she didn't say. I wasn't a conscious Molly May fan. I didn't even know who she was when she had Bambi, so I didn't get to enjoy her journey through motherhood. So this will just be so much fun. And I guess she'll probably be due in summer or whatever. We're not really on the same time. She'd be a fun one to be pregnant with. Zack, get over. Molly May is pregnant.

You know what that means.

To me, that would be the same as when I was pregnant with Kylie, which I feel like is so cool.

I was pregnant with a Haley Bieber, which was obviously really special for her. Who else was I pregnant with?

I was pregnant with a lot of girlies.

I was, of course, pregnant with Lauren Helena. We literally had sex the same day. And I went a week early, and she went two weeks late. So our babies are actually quite far apart. But I do believe Concepcion was on the same day.

That's beautiful. Yeah. Mazel to the furies.

Really, Mazel. It's nice to work through things and come out on the other side. They must feel very happy. Yeah.

Our next story, some Olympics news. Tonight's the opening ceremony. I forgot. We have a bit of Olympics drama that I need What time is the ceremony?

Because it's obviously French-Canadian time.

But then they'll stream it for primetime. Okay. Yeah, they always do that. You might see snippets beforehand, but it'll probably be at 8: 00 o'clock on Peacock or whatever.

Thank God my Peacock description is currently active because of traitors.

Oh, thank God. Oh, thank God.

Yeah, or else I would have had to miss it.

Our first Olympic story, Utahierdom, is getting flack for flying private to the Olympics.

Who gives a fuck? I forgot. I'm like, Who's It's you to Learman, and why do we care? Of course, it's literally the love of my life, Jake Paul's fiancé.

Jake Paul's fiance, you to Learman, is a Dutch speedskating star. She is going to the Olympics- Wait. Again.

Is this her big- This is her- This is what she's been waiting for it? Because her and Jake can't really live in the same place until X.

Yeah, I think she was at the last Olympics, and this will be her last Olympics.

Oh, my God. Is Jake there? Did she fly with Jake?

1000% Jake will be there. I don't even know that, but of course he will be there. I don't think she flew with Jake.

Give us Paul American Season 2 now. Do you think that that show wasn't renewed?

No, I think it could be. I think it could be. I think they're definitely filming it, and then they'll see, we'll pick it up. Maybe you two. But that's what's great about the Pauls. They're filming everything all the time. Yeah.

The way I need to see, first of all, the way you feel about Bambi and Tommy Theory is how I feel about Utah and Jake Paul. I never even thought Jake Paul was cute until I saw him being such a loving and supportive- And you know what?

Our faves are actually connected because you know that Tommy and Jake- Of course. Actually, I learned about Tommy through Jake. Yes, you did. When I watched Jake Paul Untold. I need to watch that. Oh, my God, Claudia. I will love it. And then he was fighting Tommy. And then I had seen so much stuff about Tommy, and I just had Charlie. And I was like, you know what? I'll watch their season.

No, I love Utah. I follow her on every social media platform, and she's been crushing it. She had an injury, though, at the Worlds.

Yeah. It's a stick it. She almost didn't qualify, but then she got a spot. She had a freak accident at Worlds that put her out of contention. But she's okay. But because she's such a star, they were like, you've made the team. Yeah.

I think they saw Paul American, and they saw the sacrifices she's actively been making because she could just be a kept woman in Puerto Rico. Yeah, right in San Diego. But no, She is in Amsterdam, turning it out. Okay, so she flew private from Amsterdam to Milan? Yes.

Instead of making the trip alongside her fellow compatriots, people are calling her a diva, arrogant.

It's just so funny because if a male athlete forsook his team plane, I would be like, That's so lame. Whatever. Utah obviously needs to fly private. She's a celebrity. She can't be sitting and coach with the rest of these slobs. I actually do agree that she should have flown with her team. Even the biggest and bad... Tom and Giselle, when they went to the Super Bowl, you do fly with your team.

Or when LeBron went to the Olympics. He flew with his team. But does the whole team fly private?

Well, Team USA, we take care of each other. It's a big ass plane. I think I've seen videos. It's like a sick... They trick out a huge 737.

I also feel like different athletes get... I feel like the basketball team, they get a plane. I feel like some of the lesser outfits, they get a seat on Delta, and they say, We move you before you move us.

How does Team USA travel for the Olympics?

I feel like every sport travels differently. Like, based on what they're used to.

Okay, thank you to this avid aviator. This is how Team USA flew to the Paris Olympics. They have a video.

Oh, you didn't ask Chat?

No, I didn't.

Oh, wow. Is there something happening between you guys?

They're in the airport. Like, just show us the plane. Oh, Delta is the partner. You're right. That's what I just said. Yeah. They charter like a Delta flight for sure. But who gets first class and who?

Well, I just feel like it's based on what they're accustomed to.

So Team USA travels to the Olympic Games primarily via customized Delta Airlines charter flights, which serve as the official airline for athletes, staff, and equipment. Often, red carpet send offs involve specially branded team-only aircraft, ensuring comfortable, tailored travel, including business class seating for the athletes. Okay, beautiful. So maybe coaching staff gets coach.

Maybe. But I feel that's what we do here in the US. I don't know what goes down.

I'm sure everybody does something similar. The teams do- The Netherlands? Do normally travel together.

The Dutch is Netherlands, right? Yeah. Do you find me confusing as well?

A thousand %.

Between Dutch and Denmark? No, that- Netherlands? Dutch is to Netherlands as the Danish are to Denmark.

Yeah, which you should be in Nathanyaish.

The A Neanderthal. A Neanderthal.

You are a thousand %. Dutch. I feel like every time, every four year or every two years, it's like when our global education is really put on blast. Agreed. How we got to be Dutch people from Niederlanden is insane to me. But yes, Amsterdam is in the Netherlands.

And you're loving saying Amsterdam. That feels safe to you.

Yeah, right. Amsterdam is in the Netherlands, and people who live in Amsterdam are Dutch? Yolanda Hadid is a Dutchman.

Is a Dutchman.

Yeah. Okay.

And she's from?

The Netherlands. Yeah. Yeah. Same with Utah. Yeah. Same with Utah. I will be fully tuned into speed skating.

The thing is speed skating is mostly a single person sport, right?

They do have real life. It's like running.

Yeah, but it's like everybody is running their own race, literally.

Until you're a part of a four person.

If she were, but even still, you're responsible for only yourself, really.

So I feel like- You don't get the medal if your team loses, but you slayed your quarter of your real life.

No, but it's like, if they're going to lose, they're going to lose. And Utah needs to protect you to self and be comfortable. And this is her Olympics. And she needs to win the gold so she can feel settled in her life and move to Puerto Rico with Jake. If she does not win gold, Claudia, she might try for the next Olympics, and we'll have four more years of long distance. Okay? The grandhog saw four more years of long distance.

We need Utah to win.

So she needs to be comfortable. For that reason, yeah. She needs to have extra leg room.

For sure. But she also needs the support of her fellow teammates.

But not really if it's a single person sport. Nobody wants to go to the locker room and have everybody, especially with the girls. Girls can be so bitchy. But she runs that town.

She runs that locker room like a ship, like a thousand %.

I wonder if she brought any friends with her on the plane. It's very Stephanie from Real Houses of Miami.

It's very Megan Fox from Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen with her Sid Arthur tickets. Also, us going to the Rascal Flatts tour is us seeing Sid Arthur.

One thousand %.

Like the farewell tour for the band that they've loved their whole lives. I was thinking that the other day that we're like, so Sid Arthur.

We're so Lola.

Yeah. And what's the girl? The blonde friend.

Is her name Ellen? Or is that- Oh, yeah.

Like, it's Ellie. Ellie. Ellen.

Ellen. Or is that her actress's name?

No, you're definitely onto something. You're so Ellen.

I'm so Lola Stepp.

I'm so Lola. You would never wear that necklace. Actually, your bottle cap necklace is like- Lola Stepp. Yeah, with your Teddy bears.

You're Megan Fox.

Fine. Yeah. I'm like the rich cool girl. No.

So, yeah, you know what? You're not going to catch us clowning on Utah. She did what she had to do for herself to win gold. You didn't It's to win gold, whatever it takes to get there. I support. And by the way, I won't say this for everyone. If LeBron doesn't fly with his team, but also he needs his teammates to pass him is what I'm saying. When it's a team sport, those dynamics matter more. Of course.

But also, I think it's just gendered as well. Like, yes, diva, take your plane. The man, it's yucky. It's for girls. Flying private is for girls.

Yeah. Also, I see the team USA really does the for their athletes. I don't know how the Netherlands sends their athletes and if it was up to her family.

Honestly, I could see them telling them on a bicycle. That's so Dutch.

One thousand %. And she's used to the high life with Jake. I'm sorry. This bicycle is not going to cut it.

Yeah, no, she's not going to slum it.

They probably took the train or something.

Okay, so it's from Milan, from Amsterdam to Milan.

Yeah, you could probably take the train. I think it's all land.

They love taking trains in your house. They love. Yeah.

So no, thanks.

It makes you think, yeah.

Also, some other Olympics drama. Olympic officials are investigating a claim that ski jumpers are injecting acid into their penises. Yes, I heard about this. So acid makes it seem like even crazier than it is. It's hyaluronic acid, and apparently it will enhance their performance. So it turns out that size matters in ski jumping. Before each season starts, competitors go through a 3D scanner wearing only body tight underwear. Their crotch height is also measured in their body suits, which can only have 2 to 4 centimeters of excess material, are find based on these figures. The hyaluronic acid can increase penis circumference by up to 2 centimeters, which would then give them bigger body suits, which adds to their ability to jump, like the meters of the jump. I don't fucking know.

Well, I just feel like if you're actually injecting a foreign substance into your penis, you obviously want it more than everyone else. And I admire your commitment to the craft, and I'm really not bothered by it. I don't believe that the margin of difference between a gold metal and a silver metal is pena size.

Yeah. You have to be that much greater, you're saying. Yeah.

You didn't win because you have a better... But cheating is cheating. And sorry, wrong is wrong. I take it back. Just like, who was looking that closely? Who's a freak who figured this out?

Yeah. Or they just heard whispers of people doing like, it's a known secret in the game.

Is that considered juicing?

And it's hyaluronic acid. I don't know.

I put that on my face every night.

I don't know. But you guys, don't do it.

You know what? Because of the Zet bound, I do have a couple of spare needles, and I put hyaluronic acid on my face every day. So maybe I'll experiment this at home with Ben.

So that, to what end? Is he going to the Olympics?

Just to see if there's a big difference.

It sounds really painful. I agree. You obviously want it more than anyone else. Yeah. But you've lost sight, I think, of what's important.

And what's the sport? Is it when you go down really and then up and you land a trick?

Yeah. Ski jumping.

And that's the... The Jessica Chastain movie, right?

Yeah. Molly's Game. I watched that a couple of months ago.

She was on track to be a professional ski jumper, and then she had an injury. So she became a pimp.

She was at the Olympics.

Right. And then she became a pimp.

She had a freak accident.

Maybe she had too much hyaluronic acid in her regime.

No, it was the pine.

Oh, yeah. It was twig in her.

The twig-in her mitts. And she went over a twig as, there's just... That's normal. And the angle that it went unclipped her ski. Do you know how bolted those boots are into your skis?

Now, is that a true Story? Yes.

Oh, wow. Yes.

Molly's Game is a really good movie.

Molly's... I feel like everyone has seen it, but if you haven't, you have to see it. It's amazing. Yeah, it's really good. Yeah, Molly's Game.

So good luck with that. Sorry that happened.

No, I mean, personal accountability. They did that.

I wonder if they'll be disqualified.

I feel like, yeah.

They should be. I feel like if the Olympics doesn't have insane integrity when it comes to rules and stuff, who will?

Yeah, I agree.

They just want to set the standard.

I agree. Our next story, Brittany Mahomes, Nourmani and more NFL wags are making a splash for Sports Illustrated swimsuit.

Yes, I love this concept. At first I was confused. I didn't realize that Nourmani was...

A wag?

Yeah. D. K. Metcalf is her fiance. And then also we haven't even talked about how I'm pretty sure Nourmani is on my season of the Massinger. Really?

Who is she?

Hold on. Let me look it up.

I haven't heard that. I have heard it many times. I've only heard Anthony Ramos.

It's not Anthony Ramos. And I just did a little personal investigating. And I don't believe that Chase Stoke's Cordova Street is Picasso based on just like... The clues. No, based on some... I also did some personal recon. Okay. Yeah.

I don't think he is either. So who the hell is it?

Philip Phillips?

People said that's not his voice. I did listen to Phillips on the way home last night. It was amazing.

Fans strongly suspect former Fifth Harmony member, Normani, is competing as the crane.

Show me the crane. What has she sang? That would be really crazy.

It's like whoever cast this season of the Mass Singer is putting all of my ops.

Yeah.

First, Allegedly, Matthew Morrison. But not. Maybe. It could be. Normani. Teddy Melencamp is not an op of mine. Neither is David Ortiz, but the Chrisleys are.

What I need more clues about Normani. Okay, so. I don't think it's her.

Based on voice, do you want to listen?

I want to hear what song she sing.

It's not right, but it's okay.

Okay.

By Whitney Houston is what she performed. Okay. Clues. References to the '90s. Oh, so why would that be Normani? Billions of streams working 10 times harder and pink ballet slippers. Wait, why do people think this is Normani? This person said she brushed wings with Janet, Michelle, and even Angelina is a fan. Paula Abdul. The panel and fans have suggested Maya, Normani, Ashanti, or Misty Copeland. Oh, ballet slippers. Yeah. Okay.

So not Normani?

No.

What a fun game.

I know.

Well, Normani is. She might not be on the massinger, but she is on the cover of Sports Illustrated. So the February 2026 digital issue of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit- I forgot how we got here. Features a bunch of wags on cover. So we have Brittany Mahomes, Normani, Claire Kittel, Ronika Love, Kristen Goff, and Haley Cavender.

I love this concept.

And Ronika Love is pregnant, and you know I just want to see a pregnant woman on the cover of Sports Illustrated.

I just feel like that's unfair. I didn't even know she was pregnant. I love this. I feel like at one point, we did girl boss away from the WAG terminology. I think some people were like, It's offensive to minimize them to their husband's jobs. But I really hope we've reverted back. I love WAG culture. I don't think it's demeaning. I think that it's a full-time career being a supportive ass wife and mother and holding down the fort while your husband just throws a ball around. So I'm so back on Wag. I hope we all are.

Yes, me as well. This is really cute.

And Romani looks sick.

Everyone looks sick.

Yeah, this is a great concept.

Yeah.

Who should- So this was like the- Was it you, Tye?

I'm not seeing like a mention.

Was this like a... What do they do this for? February?

February, digital issue. Okay. So it's a digital issue with seven covers. She's always doing stuff. No, I know. And it's like, is this the one? The one. Is there any more homes on the cover of Sports Illustrated?

But she was last year. For? The big one.

Okay, but this isn't... She was?

Yeah, but you know they have eight.

It's so crazy how quick... Oh, yeah. They love eight covers. So we have eight digital covers. Is there anything in the magazine? Yes, all the girls. Do they just make covers?

So there's four or five covers, and then it's all the girls's spreads are in there.

So what's going to be in this one? Is it going to be more wags? I wonder why they didn't have Olivia. She's Sports Illustrated girly. She's so SI.

I actually could see her turning it down. She's been like, she talks a lot because she does all these get ready with me's about how she hasn't bounced back in the way that she wanted to, which is insane because she looks perfect. So I actually could see her turning it down. Like, be like, not yet. Yeah. Because she's done it before and I think she'll get it offered it again. That's just conjecture based quite literally on her get ready with me's.

Yeah. That's like Molly when she didn't want to walk in the L'Oréal Fashion Show.

Correct. And that's real. Yeah. That is so real. Yeah.

And just the confidence knowing that they're going to offer it to you another time. There will be another time. If I got it once, I'll get it again. Yeah. Not like, Oh my God, this is my one chance. I have to do it even though I don't want to. Yeah.

If you got offered to walk in Sports Illustrated Swim Week or be on right now.

No. That actually sounds awful. Not one part of me would be like, Oh.

Yeah. So guys, please don't offer it.

Yeah. Don't waste your time. Give it to someone who really wants it.

After my children, my breast lift, my reduction, and my tummy tuck, give me a call. Maybe. I'll see you in actually I've been doing it for nine years.

Yeah. But this is a great concept.

Yeah, I love it. And I just, I really love wag culture. And I know maybe it's not woke or whatever. I just like it.

Yeah. I do feel like they don't like the term, but that just doesn't work for me.

I know. I actually, the last time I was hanging out with Kristen Neustech, I was like, Do you like hate wag? And she was like, Yeah. They do find it to me, and I get it, but I love it.

It's so cute. It's so cute.

Think of the joy. Think of the joy that it brings America.

Yeah.

But they don't like it. And you notice the word wag was not on the cover, and they don't say wag. It's just now it's implied, the implied wag.

But what did they say then?

They didn't. I think we all just put together like...

Page 6 is saying wag, but S-I is saying- I just put it together, and then I was like, oh, wait, it's a bunch of wags and normani. The new era of NFL wags.

Oh.

It's wagalicious.

I didn't know that was happening.

Here, this is what they said. For years, wag has been a word used about women, rarely. One, women Rarely One Women were invited to define- Rarely One Women. For themselves. Wasn't sports straight to the one that was accused of having AI write articles?

Let's see if this is giving chat.

It came loaded with assumptions, glamor Over Grit, Proximity Over Purpose. But that version of the story is obviously... I'm sorry.

It's So Chat. Yeah.

In today's sports culture, the women on the sidelines aren't waiting to be seen. They're already leading. That's true. Our February Digital Issue spotlights six women who are doing exactly that, reshaping what it truly means to be a so-called wag by simply being themselves. I want to see if there's a name associated with this.

With the article? Yeah. Or is it just written by Chatbot? Batista. Chat Batista.

It has like, photographed by, swimsuits by. I'm not seeing like an author, 1,000. They're never beating those chat allegations.

And I actually appreciate them I'm not spending wasting money on like, writers, because quite literally, nobody's picking up this magazine for the words. You know what I mean? I'm looking for some thought provoking, reading material for my flight. Let me pick up Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition.

Wait, this is so funny. The entire article is about Wagon. And they asked each of the models, what does the term Wagon mean to you?

So funny. I like how we're sitting here being like, I wonder how this is a Wagon. I wonder how they feel about the term Wagon. Okay, so what did they say?

Okay, so Normani said, I feel like the term Wagon definitely needs to be redefined. I feel very sexy. I feel like I'm in my divine femininity. The photographer is incredible. This is going to be iconic.

Okay, thanks for not answering the question. Although I do feel like Wag would mean- You need to take back the term. But Wagon It would mean different things to different people. Like, Normani is obviously an accomplished performer. She has so many different things going on outside. I think where it becomes derogatory is where it's like, we I wouldn't know this person unless they were a wag.

Yeah. Brittany Mahomes said, I think being the significant other to an NFL player is an incredibly hard role, and we take on a lot of important stuff. It seems that people don't get to see. But we also get to enjoy life and do things that we love, too.

Yeah. No, Brittany Mahomes is like the quintessential wag. She's on the cover of Sports Illustrated because of her husband. We wouldn't know her or her work if it wasn't for the job that her husband had. She's someone I find it... Normani is not a wag.

Yeah. Kristin Goff got the right attitude. She's a wag. She said, I feel like the word wag has gotten such a bad rap over the years. I just think being a wag is so much more than being the wife of a football player.

Yeah. But she's the quintessential wag.

Yeah. Okay. I feel wagged out.

Now I'm saying it so much, the word wag.

We're all saying the same thing.

Everyone's afraid, but it sounds like everybody likes being called a wag.

It's very convenient. It's a convenient descriptor.

It's So you're so embedded in culture now. Good luck not saying it. You just have to let it go.

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

What number?

You know what? It's going to be number five.

Do we have TV recap? Yes. Okay, so I'll wait.

Okay. Sort of will lead into TV recap.

Oh, so then should I not wait?

No, because I don't want to feel like I have to stop if my thoughts take me into the TV recap.

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Our fifth and final story, The Real House Eyes of Rhode Island trailer is here. They're teasing fights, affair rumors, and more. So the smallest state is ready to prove its home to some of the biggest drama. The first trailer for The Real House Eyes of Rhode Island, fans got a taste of what they can expect from the new Bravo show. So we got a bunch of cast members, including Ashley I. Kennedy from The Bachelor and one of Dolores Catania's friends, a former Miss Rhode Island, a pizzeria owner, a town gossip. You got it all.

So the trailer looks horrible, literally so low brow. And it's just annoying because Rhode Island itself is so pargy, and they open up the trailer, drone footage of these insane waterfront estates. And you just know none of the housewives that they've cast live there. I just have quite literally no hope for this franchise. The trailer, it just looked like...

It actually looked a parody of housewives, like something SNL would put together, a bunch of women who all look the same, arguing with each other about nothing. I could not tell one from the other. And trying to have iconic sayings. It was so cringe and cliché and nothing new or never been done before. And it's really crazy to me that Bravo would pick this up, but not the golden life.

A thousand %. Also, and I really don't mean to be mean or holier than now in any sense, or I don't know what the word is, but a pizzeria owner is just not going to cut it for me personally. I judge housewife franchises on the level of wealth. I'm sorry. It is an aspirational show, and I do think they have found success in certain markets, not just going for the uber, uber wealthy. I think Salt Lake City, none of the women are particularly wealthy, but it works. This is just giving really... It's supposed to be a- Aspirational- Thank you.

Show. Show. Also, Ashley I posted her cast photo, which, by the way, I think she's a great reality TV person and would be good on the show. But it's almost like they have eight Ashley eyes. Yeah, no, because her caption was From Roses to Pearls. And let me tell you, I'm clutching those pearls that I don't own because it's scary over here. So it's like she's obviously coming in as the one of lesser means, and it's just so contrived, and it looks really bad. And I'm always really open-minded. I love a new franchise. I actually love franchise in its infancy more than a few years later when I fall off, especially if they live in an interesting location. They keep saying, The smallest state with the biggest drama. They just keep saying the same thing. I'm like, This is fake.

Yeah. Being a parody of an SNL, that's a great way to put it.

It's like what everyone thinks housewives is. We know housewives is so much more like, you don't even know the first thing about housewives.

Oh, I literally got emotional at last night's episode. I started crying when Bowes was having that. It is dynamic, what people think. And this is just seriously a slap in the face.

It's horrible. If you had to ask someone who's never seen Housewives to put together a trailer of what they think Housewives is, that's what it would be.

Yeah, it was really disappointing. Yeah.

I don't think I'll give it a shot.

Yeah.

And I just can't believe that they would pass on Golden Life and go with something like that.

Because the bar is obviously in hell. Yeah.

We're picking up TV shows. Give us a TV show.

Yeah. And it really is the more I think about it, so crazy that they let this show go when they have Peacock. I understand maybe at one time when they were just a cable network.

We only have so many slots.

The amount of crap on Peacock, throw one more on there. You never know what's going to take off. That's what happened the Real House House in Miami. It was a Peacock exclusive because somebody pitched it and they were like, Sure, throw it on Peacock. And it became so popular. It started airing on Bravo.

Yeah.

Yeah. So hopes are not high.

No, hopes are not high. And it was disappointing to see.

Now, let's talk about the Real House of Beverly Hills episode that was on last night. That was so amazing. I felt so... I don't know, maybe I'm in a Ludial phase, but I was feeling very strong emotions. I felt very angry on Dorit's behalf. I literally thought... I think Kyle's disgusting based on her behavior. I don't know if I was just having an outsized reaction to it, but her publicly taking Amanda's side, in front of the whole group, this girl, she's known for five minutes. I guess her and Dorit have, they're in a bad, not a great spot, but they have so many years of friendship in I thought it was so disgusting.

I am a little conflicted.

And I got like, when fucking Rachel Aso stepped in on Dorit's behalf and Dorit was like, Thank fucking God. Like, yes.

Yeah. Because Dorit was no one was houndering. No one was houndering.

Yeah.

I'm a little conflicted because I'm team Doreet all the way. However, Kyle's point that Doreet talking about all this stuff on TV might not be the best thing for her in the end is correct.

Obviously, but quite literally, nobody's even disputing that. It's not the message, it's the delivery. To say it to Amanda weeks ago is so disgusting.

Also, Kyle did lead that conversation. Amanda did just agree.

No, agreed. But by the way, we're not even talking about Amanda anymore.

As we shouldn't be because all she said was like, Yeah, agreed. Yeah.

Her problem is with Kyle, and she hasn't seen that. She was just given information by Sutton, a little bit misleading.

And where did Sutton get that information?

The dinner at Cathy Hilton's house under the gazebo. Amanda told- Amanda just regurgitated what Kyle said. Got it.

Made it her own thought. From Sutton, it sounded like an Amanda original. Yeah.

I think at the reunion, everyone will have a little bit more clarity. It's Kyle's original thought, and by the way, she's so valid. That's a true thing to say. Yes. This is serious. A good friend would say it off camera alone, but a fine friend would say it alone, period. Saying it in front of everyone multiple times. And they're just in a bad spot. And it's true. Anything Kyle Kyle. Like, Boze could say it, and Doreet would be like, Yeah, of course. And then Kyle could say the same thing. And it's because Kyle is coming from a bad place.

It's true because Boze only has Doreet's best interest in mind. She doesn't even know P. K. She doesn't talk to me. Hey, when something comes from Kyle, you have to question what her other motives are because she has other irons in this fire.

And Eric has been pissing me off these last two seasons because she says what I'm thinking in her confessionals. And yes, she shouldn't call out Kyle in front of everyone. That's a bad look. But she doesn't ever tell Kyle that she's wrong. I don't know, there's something to be said. Yes, Dorit is saying too much about PK, but Kyle's not saying anything about her divorce. At least, Dorit's having a human reaction to it. And it's like, well, it's nice that you're not fighting about finances, and it's nice that you're not fighting over custody. Your kids are all grown. How nice for you? And that's your experience. And there's clearly a lot going on behind closed doors with Mauricio and Kyle that we don't know about.

Obviously, you're not just best friends and then just get a divorce and everything's totally fine. Right.

So at least Dorit's being honest with the group.

And it's like, if Dorit was putting on a brave face and acting like everything was fine and not opening up, they would say, You're not being real. We feel like something's going on. So you can't win.

Yeah. And Amanda is really annoying, but this really wasn't even about her. She's being very Crystal Kong, and I like that everyone's just brushing it off. We really can't entertain Moronic.

We can't... Boundaries.

This franchise is better than that. We don't have to stoop that low. Maybe the Real House is a Rhode Island, dude, but we don't have to stoop that low. There's enough meat. Here. I'm so team Doreet. It's insane. And I was getting so annoyed. It was slowly becoming a pile on. And then, thankfully, Rachel Zoe stepped in. And I just I love Rachel Zoe. And this Rachel Zoe, Doreet, Bow It's triangle dream team.

Dream team. Dream team. Yeah. Obsessed. No, I was happy for Doreet that Rachel stepped in. And I think everyone respects Rachel.

I just think it's awkward because I think that Rachel doesn't like Kyle. It's just the vibe that I'm getting. Oh, interesting. And she's really good friends with Cathy. Even when she went over to Cathy's house and was talking about the group, the group.

She was talking about Kyle. Yeah. But Cathy is open. She won't jump in, but you can... Remember when Kyle had Rina over with Kathy?

Unforgivable. Seriously, unforgivable.

So there's I got that line for them.

I got really, really choked up for Boze when she found out that the two eggs that they made into embryos just didn't take. That was really sad.

I know. It was sad to watch, but I do have it in the back in my head that blind item.

The rumor we heard.

Which is like, booing me because I think that it's going to turn out okay. Right.

I guess she does go and do it again.

Yeah. Or the doctor has suggested using someone else's eggs. Right.

I'm sorry, Boze is just firing on all cylinders as a housewife. And I do think it's a real testament because a lot of times housewives come on and their personal stories in the first early seasons of their life, whether it's about a family thing or trying to have a baby, it doesn't always hit for me. I'm like, I don't really know you yet. Boes has had such a stellar What is this? Her second, third season?

Second.

That's insane. I got so emotional for her.

Yeah, I think it's just her second season.

That's so crazy. Her impact is insane. Me and Ben were cackling. She just makes us laugh. She makes us cry. She's such a voice of reason. And I know a criticism of her is that she's just blindly team Doreet. But I'm sorry, if you're a moral person, you are team Dore.

And I think when someone is your real best friend, that's how best friends act. Like, Oh, you're fighting with my best friend? I have my best friend's back because I know my friend. I trust my fave. It's not just a blind loyalty. It's like, that's what friendship is. Have you ever heard of friendship?

Kyle was being really crazy. She was getting so angry. It was like a really bad night for Kyle.

You're really angry.

Yeah, that's what it was. She was just like, what the fuck up Doreet. Like, oh my God.

No, I'm going to read. And I hate when everyone says Doreet, you talk too much. It is tired.

It is tired. And you know what? Everyone's always coming for to read, and then they're like, well, you're talking too much. How the fuck is she ever supposed to respond? Yeah. I hate that shit.

I like that she said it's old because I think it is old.

I'm triggered by it.

Her title should have had to do with something about talking too much.

Her tagline, you mean?

Her Memoirs.

What's her Memoir title? Like an unmemorable memoir. Memoirs of a Dorit?

No, that would be Memorable.

Memoirs of a Kempzli. I wonder if she's going to change her last name. I feel like that's something you do when you really fucking hate your ex-husband.

It is called Unburdened. Yeah, and we said that'd be a better title for Kamala.

You're right. Then 107.

Oh, yeah. But that wasn't her memoir. That was the date of her campaign. Yeah, but she should put that in her back pocket one day. To do Unburdened. Yeah. That's her word.

Yeah. And I feel like she actually is burdened by a lot. I think that whole thing was traumatizing for her.

So to read is unburdened. And then there should be a subheader.

That's bad.

Yeah, it is. It should have been like, talking too much.

Right. Or just like, something different and better. It was a great episode.

It's not my job to come up with a title.

Like, literally, this is not my book. This is not my place.

Yeah, they're a great group of women. I love Rachel Zoe.

I love Rachel Zoe.

I just feel really shocked and grateful that she's on the show. She's getting...

She cried.

To what do we owe this pleasure?

But I actually think it's very good for her. I think her business is successful. I don't think she's in the growing stages anymore. It's a billion dollar business on its own. I think financially, she's set. I think this is very much for her public image. I think maybe people would consider her cold, but no, her fifth episode and she's crying. Love that. I think this is a great thing for her Q-Score.

Yeah. I think also when she was talking to Cathy about how she usually goes to Europe in the Hamptons during the summer, and this summer she's not working. It's because she's doing the show.

Yeah, but she makes ever go to the Hamptons next weekend. Okay, good.

She needs a vacation.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was funny.

It was. Now, let's dive into the recap of The Greatest Show on Earth, which is Traitor. It's last night's episode, spoiler alert's coming in. We had two people go home. Two fire crackers. We are really left with the worst people.

Yeah. And that was my fear with this show. The worse and more boring you are, the farther you will go. With the exception- The more of a splash that you make, the harder you play the game, you will be eliminated.

With the exception of Rob, we are left with just the big group of losers. That's Eric. And this is not personal. They're just boring. Eric, Christine, Mark Ballas, Johnny and Tara, Steven. Like, everyone who's been- Maura. Dorinda. Honestly, I'm putting all my eggs in Dorinda's basket.

Everyone's saying there's no one left to root for. All the more interesting people are gone. Now, it's like, We're rooting for Dorinda. Which, yeah, even I feel that way. I'm rooting for Steven Colette.

Well, the only hope that we have of someone figuring out its Rob is Steven Colette, because Candice told him on the way out, he's going to have to do a little bit of mental gymnastics to be like, Is it possible that Rob turned on all of his traitors?

Yeah, because usually up until a certain point in the show, if a traitor is throwing out a name, they're throwing out the name of a faithful. They want to kill the faithfuls. So at one point, do you think that the traitor is throwing out the name of a traitor? You make both arguments.

Yeah, they just have to sit around and be like, The thought process of like, traitors backing traitors is not possible anymore. There isn't someone left here who has backed up Lisa. They don't know Donna was a secret traitor and Candice. So maybe we need to rethink. And so he's not the hero we wanted, but he's the hero we need, Steven Kalati. He's our only hope.

Yeah. I thought Johnny.

I'm sorry. Eric being like, I know who's handwriting this is. It's Johnny.

Magical ears, you mean? He's so dumb. He's so dumb. When I saw him walk through breakfast, I'm like, Fuck.

And I actually believe- He's still here.

And then when, spoiler, Rob chooses him, recruits him as a traitor, I'm like, Fuck more Eric.

More Eric. Now, I do believe that this show is very difficult when you're in it. So yeah, Eric's dumb, but I don't think that I would be doing any better.

I have no issue with someone being dumb.

Shout out to Tara fucking Lepinsky for being like, Wait, I'm terrible at this game. Like, Yes, Queen, you are. And I imagine I would be, too. And you're right, it does take us very specific type of sociopath, like Rob, to be succeeding in the way that he is. And I feel like almost like a sealed fate at this point. He's got everyone on lock. He's got the double dagger. No, I don't care. Nobody thinks it's him. More is in love with him. The women think he's hot. They're not going to come from him. The men respect him so much because he's the only alpha in the group now. So are we just going to watch five more episodes of him playing everyone like a fiddle?

It's boring. Yeah, and I'm mad at him. I don't feel warm and fuzzy towards him. I don't like what he did.

I don't do warm and fuzzy, but I respect the- Yeah, no, he's great at the game, but at what cost?

At what cost, yeah. Okay. I don't like what he did to Lisa and Candice. It didn't have to be like that. Maybe for Lisa, you and I disagree. I don't think he had to go so hard. At least I think he could have let her be banished and not come in to help her. I would have been fine with that.

He didn't need to facilitate it in that way, but I don't fault him.

For not saving her. Yeah.

I do wish him and Candice could have continued to work together because people were not really saying Candice. Except Colton. And then he got murdered that night. It was safe.

Yeah. No, Rob killed Candice. Is that blood?

I was just thinking, is there blood on this tissue? No. I cleaned off my lip gloss earlier. Is there lip gloss on my face? I just used tissue. Okay. That's so weird. I was like, Am I dying?

She coughed blood.

I'm like, No, it's just my lip gloss.

It's like a Victorian- Yeah, like when you cough, it's like in the movie, you know when they go, blood, that person dies. Back to traitors. Yeah. Rob facilitated the banishment of Candice. He could have easily swayed them one way or the other. So, yeah, everyone is eating out of the palm of his hand, even though Candice It's like, she did everything that she could on her way out to point it towards Rob. That night, they're in the library, Kristen and Eric are like, Could it be Rob? No. Oh, my God. I'm so excited for Eric's reaction to realize.

Eric, they have to post the video of Colton now. Yeah. Let me see if they posted it. See if they posted it. That's a fault in the show. We need to see on camera these people who got murdered finding out who the traitors are. It's just this little series they do on their Instagram, a day or two after the episode airs. It's not working for me because the way I needed to see... Let's see if they posted it. No.

I will say, Candice was great at this game. She got screwed, and I understand why she's not following Rob in real life and why there's beef.

Yeah, she was very good.

Because he let her kill Colton knowing that he had already thrown her name out there. Yeah. That's just like backstabbing. What's the point? At a certain point, the show becomes pointless. Do we want the traitors to win?

As a group? Right. Yeah. What is the point now?

What is the point?

I guess the point that we're all championing is for everyone to figure out that it's Rob.

Or what would be... Then what? A bunch of losers win, and we have four winners of traitors, and it's I guess we could be happy for Steven and Dorinda.

Dream team.

I feel like they are going to get killed. It's going to wind up being like, Mark, Kristen. Oh, I had hoped that he would... This would have been interesting if... What's his name? Rob had chosen Johnny, recruited Johnny Because everybody has the heat on Johnny. But then Tara. Yeah. So that's the only way or one way that Johnny and Tara's best friendship would have actually made the show interesting because Rob said he almost chose Johnny to be a traitor with him because everyone's going to kill Johnny anyway. Then you're getting rid of two people. Right. But if Johnny's best friends with Tara, Rob doesn't know that, and then Johnny tells Tara, Listen, Rob just recruited me. I'm a traitor right now. Are you allowed?

If you're a traitor, can you tell someone you're a traitor and form an alliance or something?

But that's what Colton tried to do with Lisa Renna. I think- You can.

Okay.

So that would have been really interesting.

They should have encouraged him to choose Johnny.

Yeah. And then it would have all been for something.

He couldn't have chose someone less interesting, which was his strategy. I'm watching a television show. I'm trying to be entertained, and Eric's not cutting it. No.

And we were open with Eric like, Oh, how interesting. They casted a music producer.

He's a songwriter, but okay.

You said they really cast a wide man, and we have Eric, and that's very exciting. But my time with Eric has come to an end.

My time with Eric came to end weeks ago. I literally forgot he was still there.

And now it's just like more Eric.

You know who's pissing me off? Maura. Yeah. She gives nothing. I loop her into the group of losers. And I don't I guess she did sniff out Candice, but I don't really agree that because her throw away- Was Rob.

Right. Why that? And then now she's going for him. What does that mean? Why is that weird?

Okay, so Candice's only problem at the roundtable was her evidence against Rob was so weak, him dropping the fork. I kept thinking she should have brought up something else. Wait, hold on. When it comes to Rob. Oh, she should have said everyone thinks Colton dying is a reflection on me. I feel like it's a on Colton. I mean, excuse me, on Rob. It's so obvious. That's your best friend in the game. No one would think you. It is you. She could have gotten more creative with her Rob accusation. But I do think- Just to leave it in the minds of people because now her dumb fork thing is not impactful.

Yeah, I do think she did as good as she could at the roundtable. She kept her composure. She kept her composure. She threw out good arguments, unlike Lisa Rinna, who just kept saying, I don't know who said she was going to come to the roundtable and Lisa fucking Renna, and there was nothing. So I think Candice played the game amazingly. I have mad respect for her. There's nothing more that she could have done because she was screwed.

Yeah. I just hope somebody puts together that they're probably at the point now where one of the traders has turned on the rest of the traders. So everything we thought up until this point about who voted for it, it's over.

And so if they get Rob out now, then eight people win.

They win. Yeah, and they have to split the money. Got it. I liked the challenge. I feel like we were talking last week about how less physically demanding challenges and more... This one wasn't intellectual, but it It was funny. I liked it.

Yeah, it was funny.

How did Christine know that the shield was in that thing?

It was the only one that had a backing. All the other pictures were just on canvas. That's really smart of her.

Where has that intellect been this whole time? I was shook.

Yeah. So they'll kill someone tonight, Eric and Rob, unless Eric says he doesn't want to be a traitor, and then he's dead. Okay. I feel like- So either it's no Eric or someone else dies. I wonder who.

I think Eric's probably going to accept the traitordom. And maybe he'll be the hero. He'll sacrifice himself.

I feel like they'll kill Johnny or Tara because they were close to Candice.

Yeah, but that's good. They shouldn't kill because Johnny is a great distraction. Until Johnny gets home, Rob still say- Oh, right.

They won't kill Johnny. Right.

Or Tara.

Why? Why not Tara?

Because Tara is close to Johnny. They're a good distraction. They're so crazy, too. They are so inconsistent.

Yeah, but they're not going to kill Mark because he just goes He's a follower. Follower, yeah.

Mora. Steven.

Steven is a threat. But Steven's also a distraction.

Yes, he is.

Dorinda.

But also the theory that it's a turret of housewives, it's still possible. So that would be a good theory, too.

Okay.

See you next week. Oh, we will. Oh, Queenie and Weanie.

Queenie and Weanie.

Oh, Queenie and Weanie. Our final segment of the week where Jackie and I create two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weanie of the Week. And it's It's just like it sounds. If you did something queeny-like, you'll be the queenie of the Week. And if you were a major weanie this week, you will be Weanie of the Week.

My queenie is Candice. Yeah, she played a great game. I've been hard on her, and I do feel like Tabularassa, and she did so well that I've come back from any negative opinions I held of her. I thought she played a great game, very respectfully, and she made a lot of great friends. She seems like a great girl, and I think overall, traders was really great for her.

Agreed. Team Monique always and forever to eternity, but I'm separating the art from the art.

In that situation. Yes, exactly. But in this situation, team Candice.

Yeah, and I had low expectations of her. You're right. I mean, I was wrong, and I'm a woman enough to admit that. Yeah. My queenie goes out to Moira Rose herself, Katherine O'Hara. Devastating week for the community. She's a queen. May she rest in peace. And I mean that all capitals.

Yeah. And then my Weenie goes to the person at Bravo who chose to green light, Real House Eyes of Rhode Island instead of the Golden Life.

And my weaning goes to the person at Bravo who passed on the Golden Life.

Right. I think hopefully they're the same person, so they could be one weaning or it could be a shared title.

It definitely was a group.

Whoever said yes to Rhode Island and no to the Golden Life.

I heard that, and this is just what I read in a TikTok comment, that Ramona is banned from the network.

Why?

I guess some of the unsavory things of the last couple of seasons not being so woke or whatever. I just feel everyone at Bravo has a little bit of that and why Ramona would be banned from the network.

Does she go to BravoCon? I was going to just ask you that.

I feel like- Let me ask Chad.

Is she on Watch What Happens Live? I don't think that's true. I also feel like those women- When was the last time Ramona Singer was at BravoCon? Those women would have dropped her in a second. They would have said, Can't be on our show. A thousand %. If we can be on Bravo. I'm going to say false. You read it in a TikTok comment, false.

Yeah, I read it in a TikTok comment. The last time Ramona Singer actually appeared at a BravoCon event, according to Chad, was BravoCon 2022. She was scheduled to hotel Oh. She was scheduled to attend BravoCon 2023 in Vegas, but was disinvited from the event amid controversy over reserviced allegations and a publicized comment, and therefore did not appear in 2023. So the most recent BravoCon was 2022.

And when was the last time she was on Watch What Happens Live?

When was the last time she was on Watch What Happens Live as a guest?

Or like, doorbell or whatever. And I feel like Avery Bartends.

I feel like you're thinking like a while ago.

Maybe. I'm living in the past.

And you're right. They would have dropped Ramona off that show. They have enough.

One thousand %.

There's no widely reported extremely recent Watch What Happens Live appearance by Ramona Singer in 2024 or 2025. She was a freaking guest through her time as a Roni cast member through 2021.

Oh, so you could be banned from the network and then be unbanned, like Nini.

Yeah. So she has not been on Watch What Happens Live in 2020. So it seems like the last time she was... Something happened in 2023, Bravo Con canceled, and that was the last time she was on Watch What Happens Live, and she hasn't been at the network since.

Okay, but she also hasn't been on a show there since 2020. Yeah. So what could she have done? But also, Nini was suing Bravo, and now she's back on Bravo. It's true. They could unban her.

It means nothing.

It means nothing.

A lifetime ban is not a thing.

It's not a thing. They could be mad at her and then be unmad. I'm sorry, TikTok commenter. I'm calling it false.

Yeah, sorry. I just feel like recently I've been reading a lot of TikTok comments, so I just wanted to- No, and everything is a lie.

Or just- Just everything is just... You just can't take things at face value. I'm sorry. You cannot from a TikTok comment or TikTok. Okay. Like, otherwise you think I have beef with Natalie when that was not the case. No.

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