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They sound amazing.
Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Tuesday. Yeah, you're listening to the podcast of the most interesting girl on the planet.
Claudia is in the news today. You are in the stories. You are the stories.
Do I have a different energy? I hate this phrase, but I do feel like I have main character energy right now. Do you feel like everyone's talking about me? I feel like it's my birthday, the amount of people blowing up my DMs and my text.
I feel like I don't even know how many people are talking about you, and we'll get into it because I saw you in page 6 this morning, and I've been seeing you in my algorithm from accounts I don't follow talking about influencer Claudia Asher being body shamed by the new Real Housewife. It's such drama. I'm being body shamed.
Okay, I don't want to spoil it, but I did make some news yesterday. I posted a TikTok. There was a lot of news in the Bravo universe, and it had to do with me. So I spoke my truth. People were interested in my truth and hearing it. And we'll talk... If you aren't on TikTok, I did post it on TikTok because I was like, give me a to the real fans first. And so I will tell the whole story from the beginning, but I don't want to talk about that right now. I just want to say, yes, you are listening to the podcast of the Girl on the News.
And we will talk about the thing. The big thing. We're not going to skirt around it.
And how I'm feeling.
Yeah, no, I will get- My high school bully is like... A 10-year long bullying campaign.
Is becoming famous.
I'm really excited to talk about it. I really need to dig into this, get my teeth into it and try and wrap my head around like, what's going on here?
Yeah, and I feel like a lot of people are going to be surprised at my take.
I think we're going to wind up giving grace.
No, I'm not going to give grace.
You'll see. You're going to forgive her? Let's not spoil. Okay. We have so much to do today. I feel like you're going to forgive her. Sort of. You'll see. We'll see where the conversation goes.
But yes, we have a lot- And I just want to say I'm forgiving someone who has not apologized. No, no, no. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. Let's talk about you. Me? How are you? I'm good. The sister of the most famous girl in the world.
I know Olivia is doing major things in the advertising industry. She actually is. And Satchel?
Don't get me started on that.
Don't get me started on Satchel. I actually conversed with Satchel a lot yesterday because we did Redheads.
Oh, wow.
We recorded Redheads. It was a great, fantastic episode. So changes are a brew at the Redheads. Every episode is like...
Rejiggering the format.
It's like when they meant the internet and everything was just new and different and there was no format. That's like Redheads right now. We're changing everything up. It's a very exciting time to be a part of the community.
I agree. And how are the girls?
The girls were great. The book was fun. Lots of humor, no bomber talk. Margot also shared at the end of the episode. That she didn't know. That she didn't know. I don't know why I expect that she would.
And you know what? I'm glad we clipped that moment yesterday because the comments did make me feel less alone. I like to pride myself on being a decently smart person. I know what goes on in the world. I don't walk around with my head always up my ass. And so I did feel a little bit of shame that I didn't know who that was. But shout out to my fellow Zelenials. Excuse me, Zelenials.
You've heard of him, right?
From you? I've heard the word Unibomber.
And the red light thing, right? No, what's that? I told you about this once, and we were talking about it on the episode, but it was also in the show, Manhunt. The Unibomber We're just a crazy individual. However, there are small parts of his manifesto. Parts of his manifesto. You know, like technology. We should be aware of. It doesn't mean we should kill people, but limit your screen time. Of course.
I want to say Jonathan hate is the Unabomber of our time.
Well, that's what I said in the show. I was like, that's a nice medium of...
Well, no, you can have radical thoughts on anything. You just can't kill people who disagree with you.
But also it's like, you can't stop progress. You can't stop technology. You're supposed to live in the Stone Age forever. No, that's not good. But parameters- What's red light? Boundaries. Okay, so in the show, one of his things, it's like when you're at a red light and there's no cars coming either- Oh, my God. I love this. Either which way. No, I feel bad loving it because it's like a Unabomber theory. But when there's no cars coming any which way and it's like, you don't go because there's a red light telling you not to go, when you could just go.
Yeah, but that's what separates man from monster.
Yeah, and that's That's being a civilian in a civic society.
That's always what I think when I'm driving, even when I'm not driving my best. It's like, I know that the other people around me also don't want to get an accident. So even if I'm wrong, they're going to get out of my way.
No, but that's not what this is. This is like, there's no reason why you can't go other than just a red light telling you the law. But in this moment, you could technically go. I mean, I would never. And I don't put... When I'm there and I'm like, I could go, but I'm not because of this red light.
What does that have to do with the Unibomber?
That was something that he was saying in the show. Why are you staying at the red light when you can just go? He's anti-government, anti-law, anti-order. Got it. Actually, in the show, the guy who is investigating him- Who plays the Unibomber in the show?
Someone like- That we know, like someone famous.
I don't He looked more like him. Hold on. Unabomber, Manhattan Unabomber.
Cameron Grant?
No, I don't think we know him. Okay. Oh, Richard Juhl. Remember him?
No.
Yes, you do.
I'm on IMD. Give me a second.
Paul Betny? Oh, my God. I forgot about Richard Jules. I'm just- Who's Richard Jules?
Show me.
Do you remember that with the- Chris Noff is in Manhunt. There's a couple of different iterations of Manhunt. Claudia, remember the movie Richard Jules?
No.
Yes, you do.
I think if you think that if you keep saying it, I'll remember, but I don't.
You will, Claudia.
Can you show me? Yes.
Remember, he got like...
Of course, Richard Jules. What was his story again?
They thought that he planted the bomb at the Olympics in Georgia.
And it was just a guy.
And it wasn't him. And his whole life was turned upside down.
Richard Juhl. Fucking Richard Juhl. Those are the kinds of stories I love. Not obviously that that happened to him, but like these random niche.
Yeah. Oh, my God. So, yeah, Richard Juhl is associated with the Unabomber. As in just like- Just like crazy times.
Yeah.
Anyways.
The Redheads are doing well.
The Redheads are doing well. Oh, but just to finish my thought. In the show, the guy who's investigating the Unabomber, starts to take on his beliefs a little bit. By the end, he's living out in the woods. And that's just like Hollywood.
Because that definitely didn't happen. Moronic. Yeah, that's moronic.
Yeah. Moronic.
I watched a I did something crazy last night. Crack? Crazier.
Met.
I caught up on the Real Hot Size of Beverly Hills, and then I watched Watch What Happens Live, which was such a lackluster episode with Amanda Francis, which was crazy because she actually wasn't in this week's episode of...
They obviously just didn't program that.
Yeah, and then Gol Nessa because it was the finale of Shaz, and the two of them are so polar opposite. And even though Amanda wasn't on the episode of Beverly Hills, it was her first time on Watch What Happens Live, and she's this interesting character, so there was a lot of attention being patron. I feel like Gigi was like, dating that shit, kept talking about Amanda's questions. But I will say it was a good showing for Amanda Francis. She's still nutty and whatever, but she dressed very head-on, that people say her business is a scam and all the things we think about her and how she walks into the room purse first. I have sunscreen in my Chanel backpack. Oh, I have that bag. And she was like, I'm sorry, I thought that's what we were doing. This is a show about affluent women, and these women do it all the time. Every time they're on TV, it's like they show how much their purse costs. So I don't know.
It was a good showing for her. They're more subtle about it, though. Yeah, of course.
She's just tacky by It was just a weird episode of Watched Robins Live, but I liked it. Oh, and then my favorites were Bartending. It was such a crazy episode.
Who was that guy?
A twink and a red head. You know their song?
No. The red headed girl. I saw his Instagram post, he said that he accidentally, like, insulted Amanda.
Did he? Yeah. They didn't even talk. Andy never gives the bartenders a minute to speak, but he gave them a particularly small amount.
I didn't realize this happened last night. I saw it this morning.
He When Andy- But this wasn't from last night. This was from last week.
Okay, so from last week when Andy threw to the bartender's, they were like, What do you think about Amanda? And the red head's like, Love you, whatever. And he's like, I've been seeing all the comments, but I think you're great. And he came on, and she was insulted. She turned around. He was like, I didn't need to clock her like that. I don't even know her.
No, and it's crazy because they got three seconds of air time. He's like, I'm so sorry. No, funny. I really like that. They make funny TikTok content. I feel like I've sent it to you before. Yeah, watch Watch What Happens Live. I feel like that was really crazy of me. Ben was out, I got nothing to do.
I always like to watch Watch What Happens Live. It's a little more subject material on the subject.
Yes, exactly. Contextualizing the context.
Yeah. Secondary and tertiary sources.
Yes. And I prefer primary sources, obviously. In the MLA format.
Yes, of course.
And did you write your bibliography today or are you going to give it to me tomorrow? It's pending. I am so glad I never have to write another fucking bibliography. Those were some of the lowest points of my entire life.
I don't know. The bibliography is like an extra page. Maybe we can make it go longer. No, but they knew. In hindsight, why it so hard? There's a format. I know. You get your book, you put it in the format.
I know. Why were we struggling? Because I feel like the bibliography... Because I was never one who wrote amazing essays. I feel like if you looked at my bibliography, it was like a window into how little I cared and how bad the essay truly was. You can hide, but the bibliography shows facts.
Understood. But you should need to just get a random text, take one piece of information and cite it. And for a couple of random text, and even though you got your whole paper from one book. Of course. You have a bunch of random texts.
And I just don't feel like getting lost in the minutiae of the MLA formatted bibliography really prepared me for life in any meaningful way.
What about J-Store?
Remind me.
Where you would go and read PDFs. J-store. Do you remember? Yeah.
J-s-t-o-r. Yeah.
And you would just read somebody's work.
Like I said, some of the worst fucking times of my life, lowest points of my life was like, midnight the night before a paper was just getting the bibliography together. Oh, I have pills just thinking about it.
The reading is on J-Store.
Good luck with that. I don't even think I had an account. I was not participating in the readings.
What does J-Store stand for?
Just seriously, kill me now. I don't know. I just feel like I'm doing really well in life for never having done a proper bibliography. I was always losing points on the bibliography.
Yeah, I feel like the bibliography wasn't my favorite, but it wasn't my least Well, the bibliography, when you got to that point, it was the beginning of the end. Yeah. And it's like, okay, I just have to plug in names and numbers. I don't have to think.
But I was somehow always doing it wrong. Yeah.
Well, now I'm sure you can just do like, plug in mybibliography. Com. No, chat probably has its own format that would give you away in two seconds. It's in person.
Yeah. Like I said, sometimes when I'm like, can't sleep or whatever, I do think about the fact that I'm so grateful I never have to go to school again. School was really just the worst.
Homework papers- Then you go to sleep and you're back at school. I have so many dreams. I know. I have so many dreams that I forgot that I didn't take four classes this semester. Okay, yeah.
My dream- And I'm not going to be able to graduate on time. Yeah, my dream is that I signed up for a class in college, and I went to the first couple of- Yeah, yeah, okay. I went to the first couple of sessions, and then forgot all about it. I dropped it. No, I don't remember if I dropped it, if I stayed in. So it's like, did I ever graduate because of that one class?
No, and I never went back. Some of it, it's like I dropped it, but I never picked up another class, so I will be one credit short. And some of it is, I never went to class ever again. Do they even count me anymore because of my attendance?
Did I submit any in homework?
And how am I ever going to pass the final?
1,000 %.
Do I even have to take the final?
Those are the fucking worst.
And it's like, did I ever even do that? That that's in my subconscious? Did you ever drop a class?
You mean?
Yeah, no.
No. And then watching Tell Me Lies didn't help. It just brought all those feelings back. I was having the dreams a lot.
Yeah. No, but that's recurring. But for everyone, too. And I don't know what.
You know, that's like a universal.
I wonder if you didn't go to college, do you have that dream?
You have it about high school or whatever your most recent schooling system was.
You think? I don't know. Sound off for the comments. Sounds like a reason to not go to college.
Just to save yourself the trouble.
Yeah.
Sound off in the comments. If you didn't go to college, what are your nightmares about?
Yeah.
Love that. We have two tosters today. We have stories about turd self, so I'm ready to dive in if you are.
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You're welcome.
Our first story, new Roni cast members have been revealed, part one of her story. So, Real Houses of New York and Bravo announced yesterday, the new cast members for the new season of Real House of New York. Some familiar names, including Erin Leachy, Jessel Tank. We know Jessel very well here. Of course. I'm sitting next to her. Jessel. And Si De Silva.
So it seems like everyone else from previous cast has been... Uba is gone, Jenna Lyons is gone. I forget who. I don't even know. Oh, Rebecca Minkoff. Okay. So it's just these three girls from the original Reboot cast.
Okay. And then they've added Erica Hammond, who is a celebrity fitness trainer and friend of Claudia's.
She's a great casting. She's very pretty. She's very wealthy, her husband. Oh, they're one of our sponsors, Built. Built Rewards. It's like the rewards company that gives you points for paying rent. He started that company. Actually, he's one of Ben's really good friends. They're a very interesting couple. They're very well-traveled. They're very, very wealthy. And she has such an interesting background. She's one of the cofounders of Rumbble, the popular boxing. And she used to be in the WW. So that's the type of gal we want to see. It's literally a perfect casting. And I knew she was going to be on the show. I found out a couple of months ago, and I thought, you know what? Hope reigns Eternal.
Oh, you knew that?
I did know that, and I thought it was really a perfect casting.
I didn't know that was happening.
When we talk about Real Hot Spouse of New York, we're always talking about affluent women, interesting women. And I thought, great, maybe her and some of her wealthy friends will be. And it seems like they got it right with Erica, and I genuinely don't know where they went with the rest of them.
So then the other lady is Daisy Toy, who's a celebrity makeup artist. I think she does Martha. Martha Stewart. And then Haley Glassman, who is a public relations professional.
And I think her claim to fame is that she used to date John Gosselen.
Oh, yeah. Ex-wife, I think.
Oh, really?
I don't know. I thought I saw ex-wife.
I thought it was girlfriend. Whatever. Ex-girlfriend. I was so confused. I feel like The Roni reboot really got it wrong. From the start. And they refused to acknowledge that. So I think people have been saying for years, please boil down the original cast to Jessel, Erin, and Cy. Those were the three who were most liked. And so they finally listened to the fans a little bit. I don't know why they had to go so random and also so all over the place. Because like I said, Erica is the perfect person for this. Why is she on the same show as John Gosselen's ex-girlfriend? I'm so confused. I'm so confused. But then, obviously, to make everything about myself, I had known Erica, and then I was curious. I didn't know the other two people, and so I was doing a deep dive. I literally saw it on Dumont before they announced it. It said Haley Glassman, and I was like, That name sounds so familiar. It didn't sound familiar. It looked familiar. I'd seen that name before. I was like, Who the fuck? Why do I know this name? Went to her Instagram, and I was like, Oh, wait, I think I know.
So I went to her messages, and I was like, yes. We have people who troll us professionally, and we know their names, that girl Megan. Yeah.
And there's not that many that I book, but there are a couple names that I'm like, this one's trouble.
Yes. And I was like, Oh, my God. Yes. I scroll up. We must have Well, not we. She has messaged me probably 50 times since 2017. And the crazy thing is I noticed she unfollowed me before I made my TikTok or anything.
She's done with you. She's done with me. She's been a long-time fan.
And she's always trolling me. She's making mostly about my weight. She's clearly one of these just weight obsessed people. She was always commenting on my weight. I think her family owns a plastic surgery company?
Yeah, they must because she was hashed her second glass in plastic surgery in the DM.
She was sending me messages being like, why you've lost a lot of weight. When you need a neck lift, I'll find the right doctor for you. I'm like, oh my God. Okay. She was calling Ben fat. Her DM's to me over the... And some of them are also really nice, being like, so happy for you when I got pregnant, which is It's your crazy fan troll behavior. Your biggest trolls are your biggest fans and your biggest haters. So that's always a trope. When you respond to a hater who's calling you ugly, you were like, Excuse me? They're like, Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I love you so much. It's a real mental disease where you're obsessed with this person in both positive and negative extreme ways. I was like, How is this person a real housewife? You've been trolling me for almost 10 years, but I don't even know what to call it. Because is she a fan or is she a hater? I couldn't put together.
She's a bit of both, really a bit of both.
And it was reminding me of Monica from Salt Lake City, a crazy internet troll becoming a housewife. And I was so on a sleep test, I'm not going to lie. Not this being about me.
Having to do with you.
Of course, made a TikTok about it. I wasn't sure if people were going to care at all. And the TikTok blew up. It's everywhere.
I just think that's really crazy because for a real housewife, you expect that it's a dignified individual who's hopefully too busy to even be engaging in a behavior like this. That's not what we expect from real housewives. Of course.
We always say it's a very... Why can I never remember this word?
Aspirational. Thank you.
It's supposed to be an aspirational show about women who are successful, women who are wealthy women who are fabulous and women who we would like to be. Now, obviously, the show has taken a turn in recent years where it's very just like reality TV. So I feel a little conflicted because while this is not the Real Housewives I grew up with, in this day and age, in this day and age, The crazier you are, the better TV you make. And a really crazy, deranged person is what it takes to be a professional troll for almost a decade, that I feel like she's going to be amazing on the show.
Maybe because those DMs were like, wow, they speak to some wacky personality that might make for good TV.
And when we think about the greats in terms of the last amazing season, we think of the Ashley Jacobs. That was crazy times. You think of the truly crazy people.
I don't consider Ashley Jacobs one of the greats. I think I consider it a crazy time. No, but that was such a fun time. I don't know. It was really dark.
It was dark, actually. You're right.
It was really dark.
I don't know. I just think in order to be a successful reality TV villain, you have to be a legitimate crazy person.
And I think we got one. They might have found one in her. Yeah.
People are leaving my comments- People who are willing to just not look so amazing all the time.
People who have nothing to lose. Yeah, but not that they're putting it on like, Oh, I don't care how I look. I'm going to be the villain. It's like, They seriously can't help themselves. Correct.
Like, very Tom Sandoval, very narcissistic. So a lot of my... Almost all my comments are flattered. Like, Bravo. Fire her. I just want to say, I do not want her to be fired. This franchise is so random and weird. Sure, throw in a crazy person. Maybe that's just the thing they've been missing. Maybe everyone Maybe everyone they've cast have been a little too sound of mind.
Yeah, and then safe, and nobody wants to ruin their lives.
So I wasn't making the TikTok, like calling for her to be fired. I just want to say, please don't fire her. She sounds interesting. She sounds perfect. Yeah, because it's not like it's this perfect cast already. I don't know what's going on with the franchise and why they refuse to call it, but sure, let's throw a crazy person in there.
Yeah, I agree. I don't think she needs to be fired. No, don't fire her. I wonder if she'll reach out to you.
Oh, sorry. She blocked me. She blocked the toast. She blocked my personal Instagram club with her- She'szogen.
I mean, I understand. Imagine she's having a big day yesterday. But the thing is, she's just...
She just owned it.
You just told everyone who she is. It's not even like she did something that one Instead, it was like, oh.
Yeah. No. And I just want to say, I forgive you, even though you haven't apologized.
You understand. Yeah.
No, I actually really do not want her to be fired. I don't think she's going to be, but I don't want her to be. Yeah. No, no. And now because now I'm honestly intrigued.
Yeah. And the other part of the story is that, Carol Radswell.
So they announced Carol coming back as a friend of Roni Legacy before they announced the cast. So I was like, Oh, one of the new girls must be a friend of Carol. No.
What the hell is she doing on this show? I don't know. I heard that she sued Ryan Murphy into not using her name in Love Story. That's why she's not in it at all.
Oh, interesting. Although I will say Ryan Murphy doesn't give a fuck. Did you see what he said about Jack Schlossberg? No. Jack Schlossberg is doing press- Jack Schlossberg is talking shit about the show. Well, Jack Schlossberg just did a big interview, which is why this is coming back. But when the show was announced and those paparazzi pictures got leaked, he was like, This is my family, real people. People. Ryan Murphy was asked about it on a podcast, and he was like, I don't really care what this person thinks. He never even met John F. Kennedy Jr. Now, yes, Jack Schlossberg was really young. It's a crazy fucking thing for Ryan to say, but Ryan doesn't give a fuck. That's what I mean. I doubt he could be intimidated by Carol Ratzelal. Just saying. If he wasn't intimidated by an actual Kennedy.
I don't think people are intimidated by Jack. I think that's an easy one to go after. Yes.
I just want to say Jack Shoshberg is pissing me off because he's doing all this press about how bad the Kennedy show is and it's mean and yada, yada. And it's like, sure, well, maybe Ryan Murphy could have spoken to more Kennedy's about it, involved them more. But he's really riding the coattails of this Kennedy resurgence. He has this campaign for Congress. And he's living it up, dressing like JFK, doing events like JFK Jr. And the only reason people care again is because of this show. So you're knocking it so much when you're benefiting so greatly from it. Why don't you just... Quiet.
Yeah. I am not paying that much attention, but I do feel like, and I have to watch more episodes, but I don't know. I do feel like they don't know the first thing about those two. I agree. Because I'm sorry. The more I think about the fight in the park, you're well into your 30s. You've been a public figure your entire life, and you're fighting with your girlfriend, the love of your life, physically in the park.
Yeah. That's like a crazy person. Yeah. And that's what I feel like, Caroline, specifically, was so private. There's only two on record interviews, and they're 30 seconds long. She's just being paparazzi. Nobody really knows her personality. So we're making it up as we go. There's a couple of biographies written about her, and they all say conflicting things, mind you. So nobody knows her. And the version of JFK that we know is the presidential polished press version. That's not who he really was. So we're just guessing and like, fictionalizing.
Which, okay, sure. But I do feel like this will be the- Record. What's on record about who they were. And if we don't know, it's It's crazy to just put that out there and say this is who they were. It's how the Crown represents the royal family, and I feel like they did a pretty good job. But that's how we think of them.
There's so much source material on the royals.
There's nothing. No. And so I think they did a pretty good job portraying everyone, given they are an enigma. But here it's like, I don't know. Not saying you shouldn't have made the show, but...
No. And back to Carol, what is she doing on this show? I don't know. As far as I know, she's not really friendly with any of the women. I just want to say.
She'll be on Roni new, but she won't be on Love Story.
And I was shook at the comments. People really hate Carol. They call her Carol. Carol Epstein. Oh, also, yeah. Yeah. She's like a- Galine's BFF. Yeah. So not only does her casting make no sense, it's like a controversial thing for them to have done. For what? For what purpose?
It doesn't even make sense. Yeah, wait, I forgot about that as well.
She's very heavily... There's a lot of- She's heavily mentioned in the Epsie files. In regards to Galaine. Yeah. Galaine is her girl. There's a lot of emails of her and Galaine being like, I love you so much. That's your girl. No, that's crazy. Yeah, it's a really crazy casting given that- I would hope that I had a best friend and they were involved in human trafficking, that I could sniff that out. So Carol's a really crazy casting given that and given the fact that she has no known ties to this cast.
Yeah. No, it's really... But forget known ties. She's downtown and she could throw herself in the mix, whatever. And I'm sure she's glad it's not like Bethany and the ladies who don't like her anymore. Epstein. I'm sorry. It's really crazy. We just missed the whole point.
Yeah. So this was such a weird announcement. I don't know. I don't watch your Only Legacy, so I don't feel like I have a leg to stand on in terms of how the cast. So if you are like, if you watch a show, what do you think? Right.
I don't feel like I- I don't know what's right for the show. And the three newbies. I don't know what's right for the show either. I can't help you guys. You can't help yourselves.
Yeah. Everyone's like, Bring Jenna Lyons back. I don't know.
This is where I leave you again. Yeah.
And it feels like in the last two, three years, they've been obsessed with getting people with names. Like, Jenna Lyons, who contributed nothing but was a name. Rebecca Minkoff contributed nothing but a big name. So now they're going maybe the opposite. Names that you don't know, like John Gosselen's ex-girlfriend.
Yeah, but crazy because Rebecca Minkoff doesn't want to tarnish her brand. Right. And she shouldn't.
Even though I want to say, Rachel Zoe is proving you can be a big wig, a big name, and contribute to a show in a really meaningful way.
Yeah, but you have to be... It's a hard line to walk. A special type person. Yeah, agreed. And are you going to be on the show now with your drama?
No, I'm not.
What if they called you in and said, We heard you and we want you on the show?
An idea was floated to me about a dinner, and I said no. First of all, all I do is sit on this podcast, talk about how bad the show is, and then I'm like, Yeah, I'm on it. I really have no desire to be on a Bravo show.
Okay, what if? Okay. What if they seriously, not just a dinner, what if they said to you, full cast No.
Oh my God, that's worse. No, I really don't. I really don't want to be. Okay. I think whenever I read the comments of a Bravo Leberties Instagram, I'm like, Oh, my God.
Yeah, you don't want to put yourself in that world.
There's very high highs when it comes to being a Bravo Leberties, but seriously, it's a very impassioned fan base, and that comes with both positives and negatives, and I seriously want a part of it. I'm really happy on my corner of the internet.
Also, I imagine you would not ever do reality TV, but if you were to, it certainly wouldn't be Roni. No.
If If it was going to be Roni, I'd have to move to Beverly Hills. You know what I mean? Of all the franchises, it's not going to be New York... What do they call that one? Reboot? Legacy? I keep calling it Legacy, but that's the old one.
Yeah, everything's O. G. Legacy. What's the new one?
What's the new one? Roni.
Roni Reboot.
Okay. Roni Reboot. So, yeah, it wouldn't be that.
Okay, well, let the games begin. This is all good for Roni Reboot. It is. Our next story. Story. Alex Earle is sobbing over Taylor Swift's song after seeing Braxton for the first time since their breakup. Alex posted a TikTok of herself sobbing in reaction to a fan's comment about her video last week, in which she spoke about seeing Braxton for the first time since their breakup last year. In the original video, she admitted it was really hard and really weird to see him again. She said, It was really emotional the first night. We were in the same place, but we didn't say hi to each other just because I didn't want to go up and annoy him. I don't know. She said, They eventually briefly greeted one another on the second night of the event. It's weird when you go from someone being your best friend to being a stranger in the corner of the room. So that was tough. And by tough, I mean terrible.
Yeah, I just want to say, this is going to be an annoying thing to say, but I've never experienced a breakup. It's so crazy, especially if you're in the same friend group. This is a person who Was she like... Your best friend. You're like your husband. You went together.
Yeah, you told everything to couldn't have a thought without sharing it with them, and now they are a stranger. That's really crazy. It is really crazy.
I appreciate her sharing this. And what if you just got back together?
Right. It seems like she She didn't just dump him for greener pastures. Right.
Or if she did, she might be regretting it.
I don't think she did. I wonder what happened. I also, you know what I watched a little bit of yesterday? Very, very young and on trend of me.
Oh my God, what? Her YouTube?
Yeah. It's good. The New Hot Mess. What's it called? Get ready with me.
Oh, you mean her podcast show? Her podcast show. Which one did you watch Stasi? Stasi.
Yeah. She was saying that she had a really cute conversation because she was saying that she was admiring Stasi's brown hair and how she's thought of eventually going on that journey for herself. And Stasi was like, You should. And she was like, I can't right now because I'm seeing my ex next week. And so if it doesn't look good, I don't want to see him like that. That's so funny. But maybe now that she's done seeing him, she'll dye her hair.
I talked about this with Danielle Carollan when she was on the podcast because she shared that she's not a natural blonde, and I was shocked to hear that. There is a pipeline of successful women who have been blonde most of their life, realizing that they were always meant to be their natural hair color, which is brown. I feel like Stasi is having that journey right now. I think a great example of it is Danielle Bernstein, who was Bleach blonde for many years. And now we look back, we're like, what the hell was she thinking? Like, her hair is so meant to be the color that it is now. And I wonder if that'll happen with Alex Earle. It's one of my favorite arcs.
It happened with Sally Carson on Southern Charm. First season, she was blonde, and then she discovered she's a winter, and she looks amazing.
I think people... And then we did Face App on Danielle Caroline, and we made her brunette. Actually, I don't think she should go brunette.
No, I like her as a blonde. But then if she went brunette, I'd also say this is great. But I also think you can be blonde for a time and then go back to your roots. I think Stasi being a blonde in the early days of Annapurls Was it necessary? Yeah.
Necessary. Yeah. And when you are really young, the phrase blondes have more fun, I don't think it's that. I think it's that. You are special. You're the blonde girl. You're the girl who took a chance, you know? Yeah. Who put herself out there creatively. Yeah.
So maybe that's next for Alex. I could actually see that. But also, get back together with Braxton if it hurts so bad.
I know. I don't know what the proper timeline is for a breakup, But if... Because it was New Year's, right? And it's almost three months later. I guess it was the first time that she saw me like, maybe this is normal, but maybe just get back together.
But then someone commented saying, You just described the lyrics of New Year's Day by Taylor Swift. And then she posted a video responding to that saying, of her sobbing, saying, Alex hasn't been posting as much, probably because this is me spiraling every night.
I also feel like Alex, just in regards to her posting, because I saw a TikTok she made a week a go being like, I've been posted in so long. She was doing her makeup. I feel like she's doing the reality show. She's doing her podcast. And when you have so much content, different places, I feel like it's like, well, what do I post? She doesn't want to spoil something on the show by posting it on TikTok. I feel like she's in a tough spot with what to post.
Yeah, but I also really- It used to be get ready with me, but now everywhere she goes, she gets glam. I commend her for sharing that she's sad about Braxton because I just would have assumed that when you're a celebrity, you don't talk about your feelings because the other person is going to see it.
It's not like you're just talking to your girl.
You have to be cool. And she's not being cool. But I think that's another reason why people love her. I did not expect her to be crying on the internet about Braxton. Because we all know it's about Braxton.
I hope Braxton saw in Texas I'm going to get her.
And get back together. Maybe he needs to propose.
I just want to say, I haven't been rooting for them, but this made me really sad, and I think they should get back together.
I think so, too. She was so happy. What could have went wrong?
I don't know. I do feel like she thought maybe this relationship was holding her back from something.
I think that would be very...
And then it was just becoming a lot of work with him being in Houston. It wasn't worth it anymore.
Love is always worth it.
Well, that's a lesson. Maybe she's learning the hard way. Okay.
Well, I'm holding out hope for that.
Me too.
Are you ready for our next story? Another memoir forthcoming. It wasn't a big announcement. It was actually announced in a different way. Doc Sheppard shared on his podcast. Really? That he is writing his memoir, which will cover his child sexual abuse. So he had Marcus Mumford.
He's also sober, right?
Is he?
Yeah.
Yeah. So he has- He has a crazy story. Yeah. He had Marcus Mumford on his podcast, and Marcus was talking about his child sexual abuse, and that's also referenced in his song, Cannibal. And then Dax revealed that he has been documenting his own story in a forthcoming memoir. He said, I want to bond with you on this experience, which is I have for years on here been acknowledging that I had been molested, and that was its own hurdle to just say that. And I got quite comfortable being able to say that. That was fine. Now I'm writing a memoir. And last year, really, the whole year was about, do I have the balls to write down the details of this? Because the details were always going to be mine. I didn't want anyone to be envisioning me. It's weird that that was still some wall between my shame.
Well, first of all, it's like a soft launch. We didn't get a cover and title or anything.
But what do you think? I think the title should be Armchair Expert.
Oh, like in the armchair. Like something about how he's now telling his story where he usually has people in his chair.
Yeah, but also it's how he became the arm. He is the armchair expert. How yours is girl with no job.
Before the chair. No, I think he needs to reference the chair, but I don't think he should have it be the same name as his podcast, especially because we're assuming an armchair expert, it's someone else's story. Now it's his. So it's in my own armchair.
In the arms. In the arms of a chair.
I like that.
But how yours is girl with no job because that's your pronoun online.
Yeah, Yeah, that's my pronoun. Girl/withnojob. I like that.
His is arm/chair.
Yeah, that's a good title.
No, I think the arm chair has to be in there. I do.
I need to say something.
Okay.
So I've been getting tagged a lot. I think with the resurgence of Reza Farahan being on TV again, a lot of people are tagging me in his memoirs being like, Oh, my God, Claudia. He named his book Memoirs of a Gay Shot because he's Persian and he's gay. Being like, That's your dream because we're always saying the perfect title is Memoirs of a Gay Shah. That's where the whole joke started from, with us. He teased his memoirs 10 years ago. I don't know if it came out already. Yeah, it did. Oh, so he's just continually promoting it?
Yeah, no people- Because people think it's a new book. Yeah, and they just comment, Do you guys know Reza's Memoirs is- We know.
That's where the whole thing comes from.
It's very exciting for us. One person who did what they needed to do.
Yeah. He inspired our We didn't inspire him.
I think, but also we were both inspired by Memoirs of a Geisha.
But of course, an inspirational tale.
I need to read it.
I need to see it.
I feel like I would love it.
I think you would, too. I think it's like world renowned.
Yeah, everyone loves it. But I also think I would like it.
Everyone loves it. Everybody loves us. They do.
So excited for Dax's Memoirs. I feel like it'll be strong memoirs. Yeah.
I mean, between his celebrity marriage, he's on one of the most, I hated it, but one of the most acclaimed shows many years, Parenthood, that people are obsessed with the lore of, Addiction, Childhood.
Melisation. But also, he has just big personality and insights.
And then building a really successful podcast.
I'm going to read it.
Mark me down. We were just talking about how them as a couple, they have an insane networth, right? They're both crushing it. And I would like to know a little bit about, I'm sure he'll talk about it because they're always talking about the awkward dynamics of their relationship. When you marry someone in the same industry, and he was very much like when they got together, the lesser earner and the lesser everything. And I think she lift him up. So I'm just curious about them in general.
Yeah. And I'm sure he'll also talk about being a parent, which is subject material that I'm very interested in.
And I think he's just polarizing to people. And people like that always make good books. Is he? Yeah. He's always saying stuff on his podcast that people hate.
I feel like only one time he did that.
Oh, what are you referencing? Like J. V. S. Okay.
So if we both have the same one, do you have a second- No, but that's not...
Yeah, this is just the thing with Cher. And Kristen Bell showed up. He He's always... He's toxic masculinity. Oh, really? Yes. Guys, I'm not wrong about this. He's very... He's taken to ways. I have no problem with him. I don't know what the hell he's talking about. I don't listen.
When I think of divisive podcasters, I don't think of him because there are so...
Oh, no, Jackie, he's up there. What? Yeah. He's I'm not a sweetheart. Everybody loves him. Should I ask Chad?
No, I feel like- Is Dax Shepard and his podcast considered polarizing? I feel like the commentators will let us know, but especially because the podcast realm has so many polarizing characters that when you compare him to the others, he's so lukewarm.
So funny. When I ask Chad, of course, the Jonathan Van Ness thing comes up. But a lot of his comments about personal topics get criticized for being cringe and awkward moments to discuss on social media. Maybe it's my own perception, but I'm always seeing people like, hating him.
I feel like they just... Hater is going to hate, but like... No, I think I'm right. But I just love, love, love.
Okay, Theresa. I think I'm right, but let me know.
Sound off in the comments, please.
Am I just sensitive? Because I think- Or maybe sometimes you see something one time and it just really colors.
You know what I was thinking about this morning? My theory that I now... You told me I'm wrong, but I still believe it. Oh, let's hear it. That Long Live is written about Taylor and Joe. She wrote about Joe Jonas and when she performed with the Jonas Brothers. You said it's for the fans. But I one time heard that it was about them performing, and I just believe that.
Who am I to stomp on your belief?
I'm just saying, sometimes you just see something and it doesn't matter what anyone tells you. That is what it is to you.
Rascal is a name, of course.
Of course. Are you ready for our fourth story? Harry Style's concert coming to Netflix.
I saw that when I was watching TV last night. I went to Netflix and I didn't choose anything. So then they put up a screen saver of all their comings. One night in Manchester, right?
Yep. The Superstar show from the Co-up Arena in Manchester, in which he will play his new album, Kiss All The Time, Disco Occasionally, will be be beamed out worldwide on the streamer this Sunday, two days after the album drops. He records the show on Friday. He's recording Friday for Air Sunday. Okay. I love this. Okay.
I love a concert DVD. I love this new format. So it's not livestream because it's airing Sunday and recorded Friday, but it's like a live to tape thing.
It is. And I like that one. I don't want to see all the mistakes, so feel free to take those out. But I also don't want to see something heavily edited and produced that feels like fake.
Right. Like the 1989 concert DVD that was literally destroyed by Apple TV because it cuts every 2 seconds. You can't even see anything. Love this. I'm just confused about the timeline. Is he only performing his new music? Because I'm like, I need to wait until I learn the album to appreciate it. Or is he just singing his one new song and then all the old music?
I think he's just singing the new album. I think this is solely in promotion of his new album. That's cool. And I think it's a cool way to promote your album. He obviously saw that we said that he's doing press like a new mama, and he said, Hold my scarves.
Doesn't it feel like this was thrown together at the last minute? Yeah.
I like this. It's new and inventive. I'm not saying... If this were... I don't know that I'm a big enough Harry Style's fan to actually watch this, but if it were someone that I were a huge fan of, I'd be so sad. And I'm not saying I'm not a fan of Harry's, but to get me to watch someone's new album concert. You have to be Bruno Mars.
Yes, of course. I hope that this is successful for Harry and Netflix. I would love for Netflix to do more of these. I love concert films. Whether it's partial documentary, partial concert, I don't care. This is my favorite type of content.
I feel like people are always trying to do something different, like visual album, this and that. But doing it like this where we can see- Where does one watch a visual album? Ask Miley Cyrus. Where we can see the songs in the context in which he wants us to see them, I think will do a really good job of getting these songs to the fans.
I agree. I love this. Netflix had an era where they were doing this a little bit. Remember Ben Platt, Live from Radio City? I never watched it. Oh, my God.
I- But not actually not because I'm a hater, but because I was such a big fan. I wanted to save it, and then I never watched it.
I, at that time, was probably the biggest Ben Platt fan when it came to his music, which is insane. I'm literally had a Glassman, a big fan, and I'm a big troll. Because, and I wanted to see it, too.
Unfortunately, her name is now a verb. Great.
I wanted to see it also, and now in hindsight, it makes so much sense. But he was playing Radio City, his hometown show on Roshashana, so no Jews could Probably how he prefers it. And so I had to watch it on Netflix, and it's incredible. It's so hard to be a Ben Platt hater for it because he's so insanely talented, and it's one of the best concert DVDs. It's so good. And I feel like they did someone else. They did maybe Olivia Rodrigo right after. And then they stopped doing it. These concert DVDs, bring that back. I love that.
Love. Me as well.
And speaking of streamers, I don't know if it's a story, but do you see Paramount and HBO announced that they will be merging? And I don't know if it's a new app that we all have to Download. But if they want to get in the game, do more concert DVDs. I love that. Yeah.
We'll see what the new app is.
Which name should they stick with? I feel like HBO.
Hbo, though, you just think it's like Sex in the City and Sopranos and Game of Thrones.
Then there's an opportunity to introduce a new generation. I think the name has such history, which is great. I love the acronym. It's the Home Box Office.
I know, but I feel like it can't be HBO, but I like... They need to take elements, maybe box.
I was thinking that, too. Also, I don't think that they should go with Paramount. I think Paramount has become a controversial title. They're always getting involved in politics. They are? Colbert.
Colbert?
His boss is Paramount.
And then what happened? I don't know.
He's always doing monologs about them. All I'm saying is if you're very- It can't be that bad if you're talking shit about them on TV and they let you stay there. If you're heavily involved in politics, you might not sign up for a Paramount subscription. So box, sure. Although it does have the sexual-Oh, yeah.
But like...
Hbo.
Something new. No, no, no. Not HBO, I'm telling you.
I don't know if we can handle something now.
I think we can handle one more new thing.
It has to be the final new.
The final new. We cannot handle one more regurgitation of the old. This would have been a good time if they hadn't run their load for Max.
Yeah. What if they went back?
That would be crazy. What about Maxi?
Maxi Louhu.
Max.
I like that.
He's my favorite streamer. Maxi.
If it's okay with you, might I let everyone know? Maxi. That's today's episode. It's brought to you by Bowl & Branch, where we like to cuddle up with Maxi. Okay, Bowl & Branch.
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Our fifth and final story. Justin Timberlake is suing Sag Harbor over his DWI arrest in a desperate plea to save his reputation.
Yes, I saw that page 6 really slammed him in the headline because the news is just like that he's suing the town. I don't know what his motives are, but they're saying it's to undo the damage.
Well, so actually it is because he wants a judge to block the video release of the dash cam footage of his arrest.
Oh, it must be really bad.
The recording, which was captured by officers during his arrest in June 2024, is currently part of a Freedom of Information Act request filed by members of the media. So he argues in the lawsuit that he has depicted, in an acutely vulnerable state during a roadside encounter with law enforcement. The court documents also claim that the body cam video captured, intimate details of his physical appearance, demeanor, speech, and conduct during his field sobriety test arrest in confinement. His lawyer claimed the release of the body cam footage would cause, Severe and irreparable harm to his personal and professional reputation and subject the singer to public ridicule and harassment. Actually, page six was not exaggerating. His own lawyer said that.
Well, now I need to see it. I don't know what the right way to have handled this was, but by drawing so much attention to it, I might not have even cared. This is a two-year-old thing. I would have watched it and moved on with my life. But now I need to see what he's I'm talking about. I need to get in the weeds. And the thing is, he's probably not going to win. Say what you want about this country, but the Freedom of Information Act is rock solid. Nobody really gets around it. Not even really famous people. I don't know what grounds it It wasn't recorded illegally. He just wants it dismissed because he doesn't feel like people seeing it. Well, that's too bad. What's his reasoning?
I mean, it will cause personal injury to him. But I want to say, even if he is successful in blocking this video coming out, these quotes It's just, he said he had a martini and drove home. So they already just upend whatever story he was telling, because how could it be so bad that you wanted... If he had a martini and drove home, then it's just an embarrassing dash cam What did he do?
Yeah, no. All the attention being drawn to it, I do feel, is a mistake. Reese Witherspoon's dash cam footage almost took her down, but she's come back bigger and better than ever. This is over. I haven't really thought about him or his arrest unless I'm in Sack Harbor. I'm always thinking about it.
We're at bar that he had his martini at. Yeah, the American Hotel.
I had a margarita there as well. I didn't feel like driving home. I actually took an Uber. I took an Uber. So drawing a lot of attention to it. It would have made waves, but now it's a big thing. I feel like people don't really care anymore. The whole Rue in the World tour, it was fun. It's over. People really have moved on. I think the video is coming out regardless. So now knowing that you tried to stop it, you tried to use your money and status to get around the law, that literally everyone... That's the whole thing that the celebrities have with is the Freedom of Information Act. Their birth records, their addresses, it's all just public record. It's this annoying thing. He's really not special. These circumstances are not special. I don't think he was recorded illegally. This is just what it is.
The video captured... It wasn't recorded illegally.
No, that's what I'm saying. So he's requesting... He's trying to sue or whatever. On what grounds? Was it recorded illegally?
No, no. No, that it will cause harm to him to have it out. It has intimate details of his physical appearance, demeanor, speech, and conduct. Is he naked? Right. That's what it sounds like.
And if he was naked, I imagine they have to release it blurred.
Yeah, of course. But then we'll all see him in his naked form. Blurred. No, that will be- Well, that causes harm for sure, but so I'm just drunk driving.
I literally don't give a fuck.
I'm just saying I just can't even fathom what's so bad.
I don't know what his hopes were for a comeback, but I feel now I'm getting pretty mad all over again. No. And I hope the people in the town fucking hate him. I don't think that they're going to take this lawsuit lightly. I don't think the judge... The Hamptons is very small town. They hate outsiders. The fact that all these people come every summer, they hate... It's very local, strong, local, proud. So I feel like they're not going to take lightly to this big celebrity trying to intimidate them.
Yeah. Well, you shall see. If he's successful, it still doesn't bode well because what did you do after one Martini? Now it's not more Martini. Of course not. And if he's not successful, like, oh.
Maybe there's a woman in the car with him? I don't know. But wouldn't we know that from the police report?
Yeah, the descriptions.
No, see, look at me. Now I'm coming up with theories. He should not have done this because he's not going to win either. So it will have been for nothing. And now we just hate you even more. Well. Good job.
We'll stay tuned.
For that. Let's dive into Deer Toaster, our weekly advice segment. So every Tuesday, Jackie and I help out our swirlies in need. You guys do so much for us. You support the show. We try to support back by helping you out. So you can write into us, deartoosters@gmail. Com, or head over to our website. There's a little submission box. When you scroll down, it says, Dear Toaster. Both of the methods, you have just as much of a chance getting on the show either way, and they're both totally anonymous.
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Based on method. So thank you to everybody who wrote in. And here are today's submissions. Hello, girly swirleys. I just want to say I love you all so much. You seriously put a smile on my face every day. That's really sweet. I need your thoughts. Is this a red flag or am I overthinking? My boyfriend flipped out on me for getting a little Botox for my little bar head wrinkle that was starting to show. I paid for it myself because we keep our finances separate. But his reaction really made me worry that he might try to control what I do with my body or my money in the future, especially if we ever get married and share finances. Would love your perspective.
Okay. Boys think Botox is a big deal, and they love taking a moral high ground like, You're beautiful. You don't need these things. And let me tell you, if you never told him you had Botox, he would never even notice.
Good on you for being honest, but what's the lesson here?
No, but he just like, I think this is something every boyfriend has to go through where they think, Don't do Botox. I love your face the way it is. And then your face doesn't change at all.
It's a rite of passage for them to, seriously, do you need me to pick you up? Like, insane. They think it's just, I don't know why. Maybe they think it's filler or they were misunderstanding. They think it's a facelift. So it's very sweet. If he continues to torture you about it in the years to come, he needs to fuck off. But for right now, this is not a red flag.
And you don't even have to tell him that you're doing... Now, he knows that you're a woman who does Botox now. Great. He should know, like we've said, And transparency in terms of medical procedures in your relationship is a good thing. But you don't need to tell him now every time you get Botox. And if you're worried about combining finances and how he might micromanage what you're doing with shared finances.
You would know if he was micromanaging finances in other ways. I feel like this is the Botox talking.
I agree. But no, then you know that whenever you do join finances, that maybe you guys each need your own little thing so that you can do what you want if he is going to be overseeing everything and having something to say. Yeah, no, but plenty of people have joint finances and still have personal accounts.
Of course, and every woman should have a nibble. But that's if you need to flee, not for Botox.
No, no, no, no. That's like an emergency. This is just like daily living. You don't need your daily living policed.
Also, if he is policing what you spend money on when it comes to cosmetic surgeries, he will need plugs, and you just have to keep up that energy for him. What are we getting hair plugs for? It took a while. Every man needs these plugs, and a lot of them do it now. Okay. Yeah. So it's like, Oh, I can't get You can't get your plugs, balding. You love plugs.
I just want to say- Because it's the one thing that men have to deal with.
You know what I mean? We have to deal with wrinkles and skin, and sag, and boobs and pregnancy, and belly, everything. They just lose their hair, and they can't handle it. They can't fucking handle it. And they all consider getting plugs. I feel like most men now get plugs. If you can't get Botox, you can't get plugs.
Yeah.
And I just keep bringing it up because it's like, We're not the only ones.
You love plugs. Yeah.
Ready for next one? Do Toosters. I'm 23, married three years together for eight. We met in high school. When I was a teen, I went through a cancer diagnosis. He stayed through it all with me. We share a very deep love and bond. He's very loyal. He loves me deeply. But for years, I've asked him to grow in areas like discipline, career goals, household responsibility, spiritual leadership. I eventually stopped asking because I started to feel like an aggy bitch wife. I'm a travel nurse now. I'm still in school. Sometimes I feel like I'm managing him instead of partnering with him. We've had serious conversations about these issues over the span of the four years. He's not It's a bad guy. It makes me feel so terrible for even thinking this. I'm scared of hurting him and being the one to leave. But even my family has brought up concerns to me about his behavior, my happiness. So how do you know if this is something to work through or if you're just misaligned? Sincerely, a confused and empathetic toaster.
Oh, that's really tough.
I know because obviously, a man who stays with you through cancer.
Oh, I wasn't even thinking about the cancer.
No, because I'm thinking about it differently. I'm giving different advice to someone who just, let's say without the cancer, got married really young. And it's like, yeah, when you get married really young, you run the risk of growing into different people that aren't well-matched. But this is different because we always say, Bridget, choose your husband like your life depends on it. And so in a darkest moment, you had the husband that you deserve and the husband who did everything right. And so are you giving up on him? But I don't know how many times you can have a conversation with someone before they take you seriously.
Yeah. This is tough. One, because he was there for you, but also just because he loves you and he's devoted to you and he's an otherwise very good guy, but lack of motivation and ambition and desire. You don't even have to be the most successful person, but a desire to be your best and learn and grow. And in all areas of life. That's bad.
Yeah. I would, because it's a marriage, because you guys have been through a lot together, I would take your concerns seriously. I would continue to talk about them in a serious way, maybe counseling.
But maybe spiritual counseling.
He's a good man, Savannah. But you get to see. And so there's good stuff here, as Katie would say.
It's hard to find a good man. Oh my God. The important box is are checked here.
No, of course, because then you have a man who might be very disciplined, career gold, ambition takes, and then it's a terrible husband.
No one needs sheets on you. Right.
In the places that it really matters. I feel like in the things that really, really, really matter, when you boil it down to life or death, He is a good guy. And so there's a relationship worth salvaging here. So whether that's counseling, spiritual- Maybe starting to go to church together.
And unfortunately, I do feel like the onus is going to be on you to help try and break him out of his shell. But I also feel like we need to be giving advice as if he might never break out of his shell. And then what?
Well, then you can go. Absolutely. But you have to give it a full, full, full shot because I feel like it is a marriage worth saving just based on what you've said about him.
Yeah.
In other aspects of your marriage.
Yeah. He needs a life coach.
But not a turnt one. He's on the housewives.
I know. It's impossible to find... If there was a life coach- The concept of a life coach is such a good idea.
It's such a good idea. The execution of it is almost always grifter.
One thousand %.
And it's like the people who have the worst lives telling me what to do with mine. Like, no, thanks.
No. And when anyone says they have a life coach, it's like,. But the concept is so strong. Agreed.
What? I guess... But it's not even therapy, even though I want to say the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Did you watch last week? No. Erica had a therapy session, and it was literally half the episode. And I hate when people do therapy on reality TV. It's just like, it feels too intimate. First of all, it was such an amazing scene. And I feel like this therapist has to be having a three-year-long waitlist. She's the most amazing therapist.
Yeah, she's been working with Erica for a while. Yes.
If I ever go to therapy, I want to see her. She was amazing. Sorry. So what's our advice to this girl? I would really...
Don't give up.
Don't give up. I don't think he knows the seriousness. So sometimes when your wife is nagging you, you're not listening. But maybe if your wife is nagging you with a bag packed, maybe you'll listen.
Maybe talk to members of his family. Really, I guess, try every avenue before you were to give up. But that would really be my last last- Me too. Thing to do.
Our third and final Tell us a little bit of Mahjong drama. Hey, Swerlies. I have a little bit of Mahjong drama. I'm hoping you can help your girl out. I've been begging one of my close friends to join me at my weekly Mahjong Club, and after a couple of months, she finally agreed. And to no one's surprise, she loves it. I've continued to invite her weekly to which she has declined, but instead, she has to be on four occasions now if she can borrow one of my sets to play with. Her and a group of girls always post pictures playing together with my set, and I've never been invited to join. Also, it always takes me asking multiple times to get my set returned to me. I have my I have a phone group of girls I regularly play with, so it's fine, but for some reason, this just really rubs me the wrong way.
1000%.
Am I justified in being a little hurt by this? And when can I tell my friend to buy her own set already?
Tell her today.
You don't have to tell her to buy her own set, but she can't use yours.
She cannot use yours to a game that you're not invited to. Stop inviting her. That's just the rules of feminism.
It's the rules of feminism, and it's certainly the rules of Mahjong. Now, the thing about Mahjong is that it being a four-person game, you're limited in some ways. You can't be invited to every game. But if you're always inviting someone to play and you have a pre-established game and you got her into the game, and then she's flourishing and inviting you back, and then is also using your set and not even being a good borrower by giving it back in a timely fashion. Say it with me. Fuck this bitch. Fuck this bitch all the way. Yeah. Don't give her your set anymore. Do not give her your set. Don't even respond. We're done with her.
Do not give her your set anymore. Say, No, I'm using it. No, I can't.
Ben always says that I'm so quick to cut someone off, but I'm sorry, this bitch needs to be cut off.
Yeah, that's really bad form, bad friendship to not invite you to play with her when you're the one who got her into the game. And you know what? I feel like sometimes games just come together in a natural way where you have a game, but that she never even invited you and gave you a chance. Even if you have your own game and you're fine, I feel as though that's rude, especially the set. Maybe you have your game and she has her game, but then you also could have a game together with two other parties.
One person from your group and one person from her group.
Right. Or other mutual friends. Not cool. No. Stop giving her your set.
Oh my God, you're so nice.
People are so nice.
I know. And also people are so awful.
I would never give my set.
So you can play without me? Are you fucking kidding? Never. I love my set. Absolutely, really not. Me too. My set is so personal to me.
I feel like I'm ready for my second set.
I have three now. Actually, four if you include a travel because I had to get one here, and then I have one in New York, and then I got another one here because somebody sent me one, and then I got the travel one in case we want to play at the beach.
I have one. I love it. I love it so much. It's like purses, right? It makes my heart sing.
And it's like an accessory.
Yeah. And I love when we play with it. I feel like everybody... It's a good vibe. It has I have good energy. It's from Oh My Majang, and I just adore it.
We played with my set yesterday.
I love yours.
And being the girl to bring the set, it's just such a good feeling. I'm always the one- You guys need cards? You need a rack? I have.
I love yours, too. Me, too. But I feel like itching for my second. Do it. I need like, so I can keep one in the car. And one in the house. And one in the house. I'm always like, oh, it's in my trunk.
She's always making us go.
I'm like, take my phone.
It's just a whole thing. So tell that bitch to get her on set. Yeah, roll or. She don't even tell her. Roll-or. Roll-or. That's your toaster. Thank you to everybody who wrote in.
Roll-or greater than roll-tied.
Wow. I feel like you just offended a whole fan base, and I'm not getting involved.
Not to say roll-tied is bad, but roll-or is greater.
Right over left, left over right.
Rollore greater than Taylor.
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