Transcript of Just A Bunch of Hooey: Friday, March 6th, 2026

Good morning, girlies. It's The Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's The Toast.

They sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Friday. And if I look a little crazy or different, it's because Jackie accidentally gave me a lip plumping gloss before this. I feel embarrassed at how big my lips probably look. So I'm sorry. That's why I look. Just getting ahead of the rumors. I haven't had any surgery. I love a plumper. Jackie gave me a lip gloss, and I was like, Is it a lip plumper? Because you love lip plumbers and your big lips.

I know. My usual plumper is the Buxom one. It's not that I love a plumper. I just love the Buxom gloss, so it plumps fine. Then this one, I didn't assume it was going to be a plumper. It's La Mare. I didn't think La Mare engaged in lip plumping activities.

In tacky behavior.

I hate lip plumpers. They're so clean, girl. They're so like, less is more. A thousand %. And we'll charge you a grand for less.

No, I can't believe I put this on. I'm always in your stuff when I'm here. I'm like, Oh, I walk into your house. I'm like, Hey, I need Undies. So I went into your makeup the other day to just touch up. And I couldn't use any of your lip products because you love Buxom. And I don't know if Buxom makes anything that's not plumping.

I don't know if they make a gloss that's not plumping.

I hate plumping. First of all, it doesn't work.

I guess my lips are perpetually cold. Yes, I'm feeling an icy sensation. I'm used to the tingle, but now when I think of how my lips feel right now, it's as if there is icy hot on them.

It's such a bad thing. It doesn't work. And it just is uncomfortable. Some of them actually really hurt.

This one's not so bad. I don't really know better at this point. You don't know anything else.

Do I look really swollen? Do I look exactly the same?

You look the same. That's what's so crazy about the plumpers. You are trying to endeavor for I have a larger lip. I just got filler. Okay, I didn't want to call you out. Why? I just talked about it here. I didn't know. I can't keep- My upper lip was like, crawling up underneath, and I was not going to be like the girl with the gums. You know, I love when my little sisters get their lips plumped. I know.

And I have to tell you- Margot, I need to call her. I don't know. I actually hadn't gotten lip filler in many years because the last time I did it, I didn't love the way that it looked, but it also changed the shape of my lips forever. So it fixed the problem.

In a good way. In a good way.

They never went back to my original form. No. But then after being pregnant and everything, I do I reverted to my original form, and I said, That won't do. So I got lip filler, and this is the first time I've gotten it, which is probably maybe the third time in total that I've gotten it, where I didn't immediately hate it. I got a little bit of a lip flip, so my lips stopped moving so much, and a little bit in the top lip, and I think it looks pretty amazing.

I feel like I have no idea what you look like or even myself, and I'll know in a year from now how it looks.

After you fully stop breastfeeding- No, when I look at old pictures of me, I'm like, Oh, I can read myself.

But when we're in it and I feel the same for you because we spend so much time together. I can't see you. And then I look at old pictures of me. I'm like, Claudia, you were anorexic. Yeah, that's how I feel about Ben. When I was with you, I didn't know that.

Even though I am coming to realize this is maybe the best Ben has ever looked. And I can't tell you how unfortunate the timing is and how it's actually really not going to work for me. I guess I'm, of course, on my journey as well, but we're so far. Ben is at the end of his journey, and he decided to pick that up in my postpartum era, which I feel is grounds for divorce. I'm calling a lawyer.

It's insane. Ben looks insane. I also feel the same about Ben. People will be like, Ben looks so good. And I'm like, he does it just like Ben.

Yeah, except then I'll see pictures of when Ruby was born. I'm like, who's that? Whale.

No, I totally agree. And I also feel the same for my husband.

Yeah, I don't see.

And also- It's people who I see every day. I can't see them. It's not that.

It's people who I really love. If I love you- I'm clouded by love. And I know you, you always look the same to me, even if it's such a drastic difference. It isn't until a year later that I see pictures and I'm like, Oh, they look so different. They had some transformation. But for me, it's like a love thing. If I love you, I don't even see that.

So in a year, I'll be able to tell you how your lips look today.

They look amazing. You don't need to tell me. I know.

I know, but I didn't know you were a bobblehead. I didn't know that was happening.

Yeah, Jackie told me that before I got pregnant, she was worried about me.

No, I wasn't worried about you. But now when I look back at pictures from that summer and it's It was funny because we thought we were getting fat that summer. Meanwhile, we were so gorgeous, skinny and pretty. And I didn't even realize you were rail thin. Thank you. Like, your head was too big for your body. Goals. I had no idea. Goals, goals, But now with hindsight, it's as they say, hindsight is 2020.

What else is 2020 is my transition right now because we have so much to do today. Did you watch Real Houseize in Beverly Hills? I did. I also caught the first couple of minutes of, I didn't realize the series or season premiere of the new Ladies of London, modern version, was premiering. So I did watch it. It was so bad.

Okay, good. I was so upset. I don't have time to take that on. I I don't have people watching Ladies of London without you.

Without you. Okay, so they did something crazy. They cast a man.

I saw that in the trailer.

Which is crazy because all of these shows, whether... Ladies of London is like a housewives of London. There's never been a man cast. I think they floated the idea of a gay man. The one in London is gay. But the show was called Ladies of London, which is just crazy. I guess they're going for totally opposite of what they did last time, because I guess last time it didn't work.

No, it was magic in a bottle. Even though it did.

So they're going It's like the Real Housewives of Rhode Island. It's just like young, tacky-looking. Maybe one or two of them is a part of aristocracy. But I was really disappointed at just the intros to everyone. A lot of them aren't even British.

It was not the vibe. That was fun with Ladies of London because it was a lot of transplants or people from America. Really?

I feel like one or two of them were American, but the rest.

Marissa...

Was American.

Was American.

Annabelle wasn't. Caroline Sanbury wasn't.

Noelle was American. Julie.

Julie. Sandwich was American.

Sandwich was American, and Caprice is actually American, originally.

But she was basically British. Marissa Hermer. You said that earlier. Juliet. Juliet, yeah.

So they were all American.

Half and half. Well, I just feel like I'm not interested. We have so many shows about Americans, and I don't doubt that the experience of being an American in London is exciting, so give me one. But I'm here to watch a show about aristocrats. This is not that.

And you need people who anchor the show, like Caroline Stanbury.

Who are very... And I think they do have one or two people. I did not watch long enough, but it wasn't... I was disappointed because it had potential.

Damn. Sad.

I just thought it was really crazy to cast a man. What is a man doing here? Honestly, we can't have one thing. No. We can't have one. Even ladies of London.

I guess they're trying something new. It does remind me Desperate Housewives when...

Oh, Bob and Lee. Yeah. Okay, but Bob and Lee were not...

Holding apples.

They weren't holding apples. They weren't in the posters. They were just like an addition to the neighborhood, much like Paul Young. No, No, it's not. Desperate Housewives wasn't like that, but it's an interesting comparison.

No, but they weren't holding apples. You can have a friend of. They were friends of Bob and Lee.

I don't know if the guy is a friend of, but he was in the whole thing.

Did he have confessionals? I didn't get there. I think he does because when I saw the trailer, I was like, Oh, yeah, there's a man.

And I will say he was the only one giving. Yeah.

I appreciate- He just worked twice as hard.

He was British, first of all, and he was like a snobby aristocrat being like, She'll never make it in London. She's better off than Los Angeles. That's what I'm looking for. Why they couldn't find women to do that? I'm I'm not sure because I know that that's what women do.

Got it.

I feel like, though, they've been saying... It's been floated across a couple of Housewives franchises, especially ones in a rebuilding phase about casting a gay man. And so I guess they finally did it. It's just crazy. They did it on a show called Ladies of London.

Yeah. But I guess it makes more sense because Ladies of London isn't Housewives, where it's about... So you have a little bit more flexibility, I guess.

But you don't because the title is Ladies of London.

Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

Housewives. But really Housewives, yeah.

All of them are gender.

It's a binary show.

Well, I'll say if they want to do it, it has to be done really well. Where we feel like, Oh, how do we ever live without this person? Correct.

How the house husbands in certain franchises like Jersey, really add a lot. It can be done. But this is different.

Well, if the show is not good, then the show is not good.

I know. So I don't think I'll be keeping up unless it becomes everyone's like, You got to watch it. Maybe they're off a slow start. But I wasn't even I'm expecting. Much like Cynthia Reevo, I didn't know that was happening. It just finished Real Hot Shows at Beverly Hills, and it was on.

First episode of a new season of a new show is really hard to be like, Oh, this is the best thing ever. Gang Buster. You need story lines, and we need to give it time. We need growth.

They've released two episodes. Two episodes. I thought I watched the premiere last night. Maybe the premiere was on. They played both episodes. We have Queeny and Weeny. We have stories. We have two fabulous gals that we shouldn't overlook that part about the fabulousness of the hosts of this show. Wait, major drama.

What?

The Kyle and Jacky O Show. What? They ended. There was drama. I ended up on Kyle and Jacky O Talk. For years, there has been, I think, an Australian radio show.

An Australian-radio show. Big, like Elvis Duran.

The Elvis Duran. The Elvis Duran. The Elvis Duran. The Elvis Duran. Like huge, huge, huge.

Of the South.

We're always getting like, tagged in stuff randomly when they have drama or whatever. It's huge in Australia because it's the Kyle and Jacky-O show. And they're like, splitting up.

They're splitting up?

There's splitting up. There's there's there's there's there's Kyle's villain.

It's ending contentiously.

Based on the TikToks that I saw, you never know if it's actually contentious or people are reading into things.

I feel like those two have been doing it for so long. Since I've been in this... Since I've had an Instagram, I'm always- Since you've been in this business. I'm always accidentally getting tagged and stuff for the Jacky O of Australia. I feel like they're consummate professionals. I can't imagine that they're ending badly.

Jacky O is leaving.

Okay, fine.

And her statement says, I didn't quit. In another twist on the Kyle and Jackie O saga, I'm telling you, it's like big drama. Jackie O, Henderson, has just issued a statement to address what she says is the misinformation surrounding her departure from the Kyle and Jackie O show. In a statement released this afternoon, Jackie said she is heartbroken by the way the exit has played out. Over the past few days, there has been a lot of speculation and misinformation about my departure from the show. I want to I want to make one important point very clear. I did not quit nor resigned. I'm deeply saddened by the events of the past week and the possibility of the show ending. This has come as a shock to me as it has to everyone else. The current media narrative does not reflect what actually occurred, and it has been It's truly heartbreaking to see how this has unfolded. At this stage, I'm unable to say anything further as I am addressing the situation through appropriate legal channels. Thank you to everyone who has sent kind messages of support during what has been an incredibly challenging time.

But I think there's only one place she can take her story.

To a smooth Hosts News Network.

Toast News Network.

Her comments are at odds with the notion that she elected to terminate her multimillion dollar contract with the network, contradicting the stock exchange release earlier this week. That said, Jacquelyn Henderson has given notice.

And why is she Jacky O, even though her name Is it Jacky O?

Maybe she got married over the course of the show. She was Jacky O.

Maybe. Or maybe her name is Jacky, and she called herself Jacky O.

I don't think so. But she spells her name just like you, Jacquelyn.

Oh, pretty.

So her company gave a statement saying that she gave notice, says she, cannot, quote, cannot continue to work with Mr. Kyle Sandalans. Accordingly, ARN then terminated the services agreement with Henderson, where she represents herself in the Kyle and Jacky O Show. She will cease to present the Kyle and Jacky O Show.

Good luck, Kyle. You're nothing without Jacky O.

Without Jacky O. Yeah.

Wow. Drama. I can't believe I didn't see it. I know. I wonder if I'm going to get tagged in a lot of stuff.

People are going to start leaving hate comments, thinking you're leaving the show.

Bring them out. Bring them out.

Engagement is engagement.

Yeah, totally.

What do we do yesterday?

I slaved over a brisket last night because I am hosting- Oh, I'm excited. I forgot we're doing brisket. Yeah, I made the Jake Cohen. I can't call him Jake Shane. Brisket, which is like an overnight- It works. Which is an overnight brisket. You make it, you bake it, you let it cool, and then you keep it in I'm going to put it in the fridge overnight and then reheat it the next day, which actually works for my workflow because I'm hosting it a very Pardjalicious weekend for the Webbman family. I'm so excited. Dana and her husband and her boys are coming to stay with us. I'm so excited to see my girl. I don't know. I'm making her a part. You I thought.

I didn't realize when I woke up this morning, I'd be having a brisket that was made last night with enormous love. I'm excited about that.

Yeah, and I've also carved out a few hours today so I can make the rest of the meal. I think I'm going to be making a lot of things.

I can help.

No, I can help. I think I'm also blogging.

I can help with that, for sure. You can help with that? Yeah. I love my microphones at home. I'll pick them up.

The DJs? Yeah. I have.

Okay. We also played Mahjong yesterday, where the tiles were in my favor. You know, that's a good feeling. When you walk out of a game just having slayed. There's nothing worse than leaving a game, just not playing your best. Or where the tiles just weren't with you.

Yeah, I always have faith in the tiles. That's beautiful. That what I need will come, but it's also good to need a couple, have a couple of ways of getting there. Being open. Can't just only be waiting for one tile. It might not come.

Well, that actually reminds me of something I was talking about with Ben last night because I was just catching up on my day about Majong. And I realized that Mahjong is my, I don't know if other people relate to this, my long-awaited rebuttal to golf.

That's what everyone's saying.

Hours and hours.

That's what everyone's saying.

I love that. I came to the conclusion on my own, but it's nice that other people had the same thought.

When men want to say you've been spending your time playing Mahjong, it's like, well, I'm not playing seven hours of it.

And I have 10 years to catch up on. And Ben hasn't said anything. Yeah. And he was like, and I brought it up.

He can't say anything. No.

And I brought it up and he was answering me as if I should be saying the same things about golf. So he was like, No, it's so great. I'm so glad you're having fun.

Oh, he's trying to model the behavior he wants to see from you. It's probably what you said 10 years ago when he used to go golf.

Probably not. No, but it's not the same.

No, it's an entire day.

It's an entire day with lunch breaks and you can play 18 rounds. If you want to play one game of Majong, you can play it in 10, 20 minutes. But he has no grounds. None. And he didn't. He didn't. But he was just being like...

Let's see if he keeps that energy up.

Patronizing about it.

No, he's just trying to show you how you could act, but it's not the same.

Could have, would have, should have. How are the stories today? They're good.

We have a lot of, I would say, ways enriched to wrap up the week. Week in these stories.

I like that.

Some updates, some conversations we've been having. So I think it'll be good.

Should we?

I think we can dive right into the Fast Five stories that you to do need to know.

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Thank you 30% off, Tert. You're welcome. Our first story update from yesterday, Brittany Spears' 911 dispatch describes the star swerving in and out of lanes before her DUI arrest. So we have more information about- Still no mugshot, though, right? No, still no mugshot, but we have information on what she was doing that, raise the alarm bell. She was swerving and speeding before her DUI arrest on March fourth. The dispatch audio reveals, quote, Black BMW sedan in and out of lanes speeding. Can we send all units down towards this area, please, says the officer in the audio, as units were heard following the vehicle and detailing the exact location. This is a 2026 Black BMW convertible, the officer said. They said they're talking with the driver, driver's out of vehicle, and then they had to request a DRE, which is an officer who was qualified to identify an impaired driver. I wonder what that means.

And she also had to then be taken to the hospital to have her blood drawn for a full blood alcohol test. Wow. Yeah, it must have been really bad. Yeah. Thank God she didn't hurt anyone.

And then the car was towed. And then paparazzi has a picture of the car in the toe yard. Can I see? In the toe yard.

Oh, in the toe yard. That's funny. Okay. I don't even know what to say here, right? Because I could shame her. I just feel like she's not in that place. I don't know what's right for Brittany. I know what's wrong for Brittany. I guess the conservatorship was wrong, that particular one. I don't know how to help her. I don't know. And then a statement was released by her team just being like, We're going to get Brittany the help that she needs, and her boys are going to come see her. And it's like, I don't think her boys should come see I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's right, what's wrong, but God speed to all.

And who's in charge of making decisions for her now? Or who's there with her helping her through this? I have no idea. She doesn't have her man anymore, right?

Sam? Right. Whichever the man was.

She's estranged from her family. So who's her right-hand?

I know. And it's her family. Let's talk about her family. They're bad, right? Her dad, they were all taking money from her. Okay.

Her sister? Right.

Jamie Lynn became very much the villain of the Britney Spears story, especially when the book was released, and then Jamie released her own book and went on to call her daddy, and people were so mad.

Well, this would be a good time for someone-Reconciliation.

Reconciliation. Yeah. I don't think Brittany's open.

Yeah, I can understand.

But at a time like this, you just need family, even though her family is a problem, right? I don't know. I'm not a free Brittany expert. All I know is this is just... Whatever is going on right now is not working. Yeah.

I hope she has someone that can help her navigate through this. Who is even by her side right now. I have no idea.

Well, we'll see what happens. Then I think when you're in Hollywood and you have a lot of money and then everyone around you who knew you from before is gone or you've written them off, you do become so susceptible to those Hollywood grifters. So I don't know.

Yeah, we'll see. Hopefully she gets help that she needs.

Yeah.

Our next story is a little casting news. Book to A movie adaptation, Daisy Edgar Jones is starring in Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow: A movie adaptation at Paramount. So you didn't read this book, did you?

I didn't. You told me I wouldn't like it.

I don't think you would like it. I didn't love it, but the world did.

It was pushed on Goodreads. It was pushed on Goodreads.

4 million One copy sold. It's about, and I actually just referenced it because I thought that the book we read for Redheads had elements of this because it's about the early Internet days. So there were these college friends who become creative partners in video game business. And it takes place over the course of the early days of the internet. So you really see everything happening.

One thing about Daisy Edgar Jones is she's going to be in the adaptation. Yeah, she is. She's done The Marsh Girl. She's done this TV show Normal People. And what's so funny is she didn't do Daisy Jones, even though it's literally her name. That was confusing.

That was confusing.

And she, by the way, she would have been great as a bunch of different people in that show. She's so bohemian.

Is it just a coincidence that everything used to be a book first? Or is she the book to movie girl? She really jumps off the page? Everything did used to be- Or is she a big reader and it's like, I want this?

I think everything... The chances that you get cast in something that were based on a book now are much higher. Maybe it's like 50/50. But there is something... I think they like her. They tap her.

Maybe she's really well-read, and she, one, like, picks these books because Crawdads, Normal People and Tomorrow, were like top five books of their year. Especially Crawdads was number one of the decade. And maybe she's a big reader, and it's like, I want to be involved involved in this because I loved this book and I know what I'm doing well.

But every time we talk about it, it's never her involvement. She's just cast.

No, but maybe she tells her agents like, Oh, they're casting for this? I want it because I know it, because I read it. Yeah.

Maybe. I don't know. I'm feeling like it's a coincidence, but she is the book girl. Has she done anything that wasn't a book?

We wouldn't know.

Correct. She's fantastic, by the way.

This is like getting the all-star treatment.

Oh, yeah. She did Oklahoma.

The director is Twisters. Thank you. The director is the director from Coda. This is going to be everywhere. So get ready for tomorrow and tomorrow, tomorrow, to be hearing it again and again and again.

Don't you feel like book adaptations have become commercial? If a book gets adapted into a movie, it's not Oscar Fadder. This does sound like Oscar Fadder, but now- I guess Crodes was in Oscars. Crodes, I feel, was the most elevated of the book adaptations. It ends with us. I just saw a commercial for reminders of him. Oh.

Did you see? No, I've been seeing- It looks like a lifetime movie. It's insane. I've been seeing synergized commercials. I saw Madison and Danita from Robin Chal.

Oh, from Bravo.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or no, Molly. Sorry, it's Molly. Okay.

No, you have to see the real commercial. It looks like seriously a lifetime movie. When I think of The Housemate, even, very blockbuster, very commercial, not elevated. I feel like it used to be a high-bra thing to adapt a book into a movie, and now it's very, I don't want to say tacky, but just accessible.

Yeah. There's a movie coming out that I know is based on a very popular book. I think it's called Project Hell, Mary. Oh, my God.

You're kidding. I saw a commercial for it last night.

Yeah, and it looks to be like an interstellar type. Okay, wait. I have to talk about it. And it's based on a very popular book.

So I saw the commercial, and it was Ryan Gosling. And the song in the commercial is this stripped back version. Shampagne supernova in the sky. And I was like, Wait, this is going to be the best movie of my life. And then he's like, Fighting an Alien in space. It looks turnt as well.

I know. I'm sure it's good. Really? Because the book, apparently, was amazing.

He was on Jimmy Fallon last night promoting the movie, Project Tell Mary, and it was Eva Mendes' birthday, and he brought her out. And it was like, She doesn't know I'm doing this, even though I can't imagine you would ambush your wife who came to support you. She's like, her hair was not brushed. So I was getting the vibe that she really did it now, in which case, divorce. And they're saying her happy birthday. And it's crazy because I don't know if they've ever been spotted out together. Yeah.

Have they ever been confirmed they're together? They have multiple kids.

Just the kids. It's like, they're so low key. They're so low-key. They're so low-key. Good for them. And it's her 52nd birthday. And it just made me realize Ryan Gosling, who we all... He is America's Sweetheart. He's a hot... He's like a Brad Pitt of his younger generation. And he's just with a woman who's 52. I love that about him, but he doesn't get enough credit for that, for not being a loser who dates 18-year-olds.

No, for being a good guy.

Yeah. And staying with one woman. I mean, sorry, two women because he was also with Rachel McAdams. But he's like a serial monogamous, and you never get from America's heartthrob. Yeah. I guess actually, Brad Pitt was a serial monogamous. He was always just bouncing from relationship.

Well, there was just the two. And Gwyneth.

Apparently, Gwyneth voices the children's book for Tonys of Brown Bear, Brown Bear. I got to get my hands on that. You do? Yeah.

Are you about to enter your Tony's era?

I have one at my house in the city that you gave me. Everything I own is a Choo Choo wine wrap, Hand of Me Down. And it didn't take off, but he might have been too young.

He's definitely too young. I remember Charlie didn't get into Tony's until he was like, One, until he was like, DJ Tony.

And like, just this for your third son, Max, who has no Hand Me Downs because your second and a half son, Ruby, took everything.

Grooven.

Clothes, toys. Every time I leave Jacky's house, I'm filling up my purse with toys. I literally start to my house today. I was like, Where the fuck did this come from? It must come from Jogging's. Diaper, literally everything. Your garage is cleared out. It looks like Max is getting new everything.

I love that for Maxi.

And I know hand me downs are frowned upon. I guess when you're a kid, you're like, I want my something new, but there's nothing cuter than a hand me down. It's like, we need to re-imagine hand me down.

And the older kids love it, too, because I'm like, When you were a baby, you always wore this, or this was your favorite toy. And everyone just gets so excited by their own lore.

So Ruble was wearing a Choochee Wine Reb romper, hand me down yesterday, that does have a stain. It's clean, but there's like a- Yeah, a permisane. Yeah, permisane of It's in the area where it's some fluids. But I'm so excited about it that I was showing Choochee and Hoochee. I was like, This is Choochee wine red pea. They were like, You're kidding. I'm like, No, it's Choochee Wine Reb. I think it's pea or poop. I think it's pea. It's a little yellow. That's exciting to me. It's storytelling.

It's exciting for them, their own history. Correct. It's beautiful. Well, Daisy Edgar Jones. I'm not excited for this movie, but I know the world is. And you know what? I'm glad it's something that I'm familiar with as we go into talking about it a lot, something that I've read as opposed to a book I didn't read. Like Project Helmery, I feel like I really can't get into it. But I think I want to see the movie, especially because- It looks turnt. You can only do one or the other.

He's like a middle school teacher who is the only person who possesses the scientific technology to go to space and chill with this alien. It looks turnt.

I know. I'm sure that it's good. It's like Interstellar was a book. I still have to watch that for Timothy and Kylie. Yeah. Our next story, Darryl Hannah, breaks her decades long silence on J. F. Heer. She's alive? In scathing essay on love story, calling it Appalling.

Wait. It's what you were saying earlier in the week. It's not that long ago. So We're like, Of course. But everyone else in the show is dead. I just assumed she was no longer with us. And the fact that she is actually makes me feel bad.

So here's what she has to say. She wrote a new essay in the New York Times. Love, love. She was 65. She obviously had a long term relationship JFK Jr. Before he ultimately married Caroline Bacet. And she's slamming the limited series for her portrayal.

Ryan Murphy is just getting it from everyone.

Yeah. She said she's never spoken publicly about her romance with JFK either. She wrote, The The character, Darryl Hannah, portrayed in the series is not even a remotely accurate representation of my life, my conduct, or my relationship with John. The actions and behaviors attributed to me are untrue. I have long believed that engaging with distortion often amplifies it. But a recent tragedy exploiting television series about JFK Jr. And Caroleyn Bacet features a character using my name and presents herself as me. The choice to present her as irritating, self-absorbed, whiny, and inappropriate was no accident.

I don't think that those adjectives are correct. It was a bad portrayal of her, but I don't think she's- She comes off like, ditsy. Desperate, too.

Yeah. She said she went on to refute multiple moments depicted in the show, including a scene showing a cocaine fuel party with her friends in which the drug has been placed on a priceless Kennedy family era. Yes. She said, I have never used cocaine in my life or hosted cocaine fuel parties. I have never pressured anyone into marriage. I have never desecrated any family heirloom or intruded upon anyone's private memorial. She continued with a point by point rebuttal of several other buzzy scenes in the series. She, I never planted any story in the press. I never compared Jacquelyn Onassis's death to a dog's. It's appalling to me that I even have to defend myself against a television show. These are not creative embellishments of personality. They're assertion about conduct, and they are false.

Damn. You know what? Now that she's laid it out, I knew it was a bad representation only because she came off looking like a loser. But I forgot about the crashing the memorial.

The ax.

And usually- The Kennedy plate.

We don't know what was said, but we know things happen, so let's create a story around it. But if these big temple moments didn't even happen, what are we watching?

Yeah.

And it also makes me feel for the people who aren't here to defend themselves. Selves.

Yeah. Everyone who's still alive and connected to the show or represented in the show has an issue with it. Now, I think you have to take everyone's issues with a grain of salt because like she said, it's like a tragedy exploiting TV show. It's not. It's teaching the world about this story. I think that everyone who was a part of it is going to hate it just to start. So you have to take everything they say with a little bit of a grain of salt. That's what I say with Jack Shosberg. However, I hear what she's saying, and it's like, if every single thing she is saying, and I believe her, that every moment that she's in this show is not true, didn't happen. Not only that, it was the opposite of what happened. You do have to consider.

Yeah. And then I just feel like I'm wasting my time watching something, A, historical and watching lies. Yeah, I think- That's not what I signed up for. I wanted to see what happened with JFK and Caroline.

I think there's nothing out there. So about them.

Do something else.

I know there have been biographies written about her, and those are considered the most, the authentic texts. But even those are from outsiders after her death. They were so, so private. And it's very rare that people at that level are so private and things about them aren't widely known. The only thing we all really know is that fight outside, and it's because it happened outside. There's no texts. There's no nothing. The royal family, because we keep comparing it to the Crown, there's so much, and there are so many people involved.

Even OJ is a good example of a different Ryan Murphy, where, of course, he ad-lib, but not enough to offend Kim. No, and to change the truth, the sequence of events.

Yeah.

But even if Kim didn't think everything that happened with Robert in the trial was really what happened in the show, she obviously wasn't offended by it. She works with Ryan Murphy. He did a good job of telling the story. I just feel like we're watching a ton of who we now.

Yeah. It's just giving like, Here's what I think happens.

And because there's not a lot of source material, maybe this wasn't the right story to focus on because you can't just make shit up about real people.

It's just a good show. That's the thing. We're making shit up. I think that's what's become abundantly clear. He made up a lot of it, but people are enjoying it, and it's a good show. So where do we go from here?

Well, I feel like he should have taken the Emily Giffen route and made a fictional show based on this story, not use people's real names and attributed actions to them that did not happen.

Kind of like hacks.

Exactly.

Yeah, that's a good call. Only because there's not... There's even all the research in the world.

You can't use someone's name and show that they did all these things. And it's not true. It's not even a version of the truth.

And I haven't heard anyone from either Caroline's family or the Kennedy side, anyone coming out and being like, This is it, guys. Or, yeah, like this is the best. Yeah, no, I do think it's Huy. Like, they're making it up.

And it's not even meant to be a hit piece.

No, it's meant to be a love story.

And it's not. So I don't know. They're losing me a little bit.

Well, I'm still enjoying the show, but you have to then know. And I think they're a little disclaimer at the beginning of each episode, ain't going to cut it.

Yeah. Now I understand why Emily Giffen did it the way that she did it, and she ate with that.

Because there's like nothing. The Kennedy's are pretty well protected How are they using her name, Darryl Hannah?

And she didn't do those things. Yeah, I don't know.

Justice for Darryl Hannah. She came up looking really bad.

Yeah, she did. I'm glad that she shared her- Me too. Her side.

It's a dog thing. I forgot about that. And then I got another dog.

Yeah. With Carole. Oh, I'm not there yet. Oh, sorry. They got the dog. I don't care about the spoilers for the show. And also it happens, so I don't care about the spoilers. And also it didn't happen. Right.

So I don't care about the lie.

Yeah, right. What lies did Ryan Murphy- The fictional spoilers. It's a pedal now. Our next story, Travis Kelsey is allegedly coming back to the Kansas City Chiefs next season, per an insider. So insiders are saying that Travis, Kelsey is not done yet and that he is coming back, ESPN Chiefs reporter Nate Taylor said on The Fan on Wednesday. He said, Every indication I've gotten is that Travis, Kelsey is looking forward to coming back when we'll know that for sure, that's really his prerogative.

Yikes. I don't know what the right answer is here because obviously, he should have retired the season before last. And now that he hasn't, we have to find a way to go out that isn't totally humiliating. So this last season can't be the end, right? No way.

But what if it's worse? But what can he do differently? It's not like he didn't... Last summer, he trained so hard. He trained so hard. They moved here for trainers, and He did everything that you're supposed to do, and he still had the season that he had.

His worst yet.

And so how can he troubleshoot even further?

While also now being one year older.

Right.

But also, how can you go out like you did? It's so weedy.

But I'm also scared for him to retire. People lose their minds when they retire. I think the workload balance in their relationship works for them, both being in these major careers And he'll have stuff after, but he's going to turn to acting. I don't know how that's going to be for his- Hosting. He's going to be on TV. I don't know. I think that him playing football is good for his relationship. Yeah. And once he quits, he's going to be home more often. He's no longer early workouts. He's going to be sleeping in. That's not the man she fell in love with. No. So I think it's good for them if he keeps playing.

And so they say that they're getting married, that rumor, June 13th, right? Yeah. Wouldn't that be peak training season? Not peak. The off-season.

He can have a wedding. You know what I saw?

What?

Are you sitting down? This news is going to be hard to hear.

What?

Paul American did not get picked up for season 2.

You think I don't know that? That's my weaning of the week. Thanks for spoiling it.

I'm sorry.

Whatever idiot decision that was.

I saw it between snooze this morning.

Yeah, I saw it too.

Logan shared on Impulsive that they spent $4 million on the wedding, and he justified it by it going to be the season finale for season 2 of their reality show, a big culmination moment, and jokes on him because they didn't get picked up for season 2.

Yeah, we'll talk about it because that was my weaning of the week.

Okay. It can still be your weaning.

Devastating. And while I really only liked 50% of Paul American because I hate Logan and I love Jake, and maybe we could get a Jake Utah spinoff series, it doesn't bode well.

No, I like... I know that you love Jake, but I still like Logan and Nina and now their parents, and I love 100%.

Although seeing my healer on Paul American was really crazy. Yeah. I look back so fondly on the show because me and Ben watched it right before I gave birth, and it was this great thing. We just loved it so much. She was pregnant. I can't believe. This is why we can't have nice sayings. Are you kidding me? You know which crap is on max?

No, it's so crazy.

Oh my God. Crap.

I'm so mad.

And you know they produce it themselves. They pay for it.

Just put it on. Just put it Or they could put it on their YouTube or something, but I don't know. It just doesn't- A reality show on YouTube is sad. Like, sorry. I don't know. It just doesn't... The watching experience just isn't the same. Of course. Even though I could put on my YouTube app on my TV.

No, not the same.

Not the same. I'm really mad. Our fifth and final story, though, an update from yesterday, Morgan Evans- Wait, it's not that Amanda and Wes are allegedly dating? Oh, no, that wasn't in the news yet. Can we talk about that just briefly? Because it's rumors. It's rumored.

It's du moi. I just want to say what I've heard is that that's not true. She's hooking up with one of his friends. They've been out together a lot.

I saw a few weeks ago that they identified the friend of Wes that she seems to be dating. And then I saw yesterday that her and West are.

There's no way, first of all.

But I didn't pick it because it's not a story. It's just rumors.

Given the Sierra of it all, there's no way Amanda would do that. This group of girls, girls, girls, girls, girls I'm Raquel. Because of Cierra, though.

Oh, I'm thinking because of Kyle.

Kyle and West aren't even that friendly. Yes, they are. They're roommates for two years. Like, Cierra, that's her best friend. That's even crazy.

I didn't even think about that, but on both sides.

I just feel like Kyle could get over it. And Kyle is like, We don't care.

Kyle to West is Ariana to Raquel.

No, Cierra to Amanda is Raquel to Ariana.

There's a marriage there. That's why it's like this. Okay. No, but by the way, The same. The fact that we're even arguing about which is the bigger betrayal is to say that both of them are huge betrayals.

There's literally no way. I just want to say I'm going to give Amanda a little bit more credit because based on everything I've seen from her post-divorce, she's actually quite mature.

I'm going to give her more I get to. And you think for the last two seasons, bubbling under the surface was Amanda and Wes?

If anything, she's into Jessie.

Jessie's into her.

Yeah, no. I don't think she would be dumb enough to go for the same toilet, different shit. Wes is just 10 years younger than I'm going to give her credit.

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt and say that that's not true. It's preposterous.

Yeah. And also, I don't think she would hook up with someone in the house for a million reasons.

Maybe that guy, Ben, even though it seems like Australian Ben has a girlfriend right now, whatever. If he didn't, I You would see them getting together. Because he's like an outsider. And they were friends before the show. They met at a wedding or whatever. So that would have been fine to me. And he seems serious and quiet. Not like Kyle at all.

Totally different. There's no way.

There's no way. And when I saw I was like, Oh, that would be crazy. There's no way. And that would be a betroth to Kyle. But after talking it through, I'm about to see her. She would have lost a friend so that she could be in love with Wes. I don't think so.

No, she's not dumb. She's an emotionally intelligent mature person. Hooking up with Wes a couple of times because he's not her end game. It's not enough to burn a bridge with her best friend in the whole world. Right.

No, no, no. Okay. Anyway, so fake news debunked. Sorry. Yeah. Had to be discussed. Morgan Evans is clapping back at Chase Stokes. He posted an Instagram of him and his muscles carrying a refrigerator with the caption, Feeling pretty masculine today. No, I think this is so funny. Album out in two weeks.

It was a slideshow of him carrying a refrigerator over his head with his guns out in a tank top, then chopping wood, doing things, very- Mixing his car motor. Stereotypical, like toxically masculine. I just want to say, some of the blinds say that Chase and Kelsey are back together, which would make the story even crazier. It would make it a lot worse.

Yeah. He's not just trying to get her back by doing things.

But he has her back and he like, or is this sanctioned by her? I don't know. I really hope that that's not true.

I think maybe by the time when the blind, I think they're on and off every day. And this is also speaking to some erratic relationship.

Because I feel like normally she would address it in her story. But she said she's done. Yeah, and she should be.

I think every other day they break up and get back together. I think when that blind was posted, they were back together. I think they might be broken up this minute, but check back this afternoon. He's doing all of this because he doesn't know where he stands and he wants to stand somewhere. But if he would just stop cheating, I think things would become a little more clear for him.

Yeah. Okay. Well, Morgan Evans, I think, took a W.

This is a great response from Morgan. Yeah, this is a W.

I feel like he needs a little bit. Honestly, I'm happy Chase did it because Morgan, I feel like, has been totally- And now we're talking about this conversation. No, we're talking about Morgan's album. That's what all this is for. And it's like, I feel like he got totally... And by the way, if you ever want to hear the best song ever on his debut album, which I do think will go down, for me at least, is one of my favorite debut albums from any country artist. It's amazing. Our favorite song, We Dream to Exist, We Dream to Let... He also has a song on there with Kelsey. I think it's called, I hope you dance with me. And they have blended harmonies. It's so beautiful. And then there's a song called The American, which is about Kelsey. Because he's from New Zealand? Yeah. Australia. He's actually a really, really good musician.

Albums out in I hope he gets a little bit of traction from this because I do feel like the country music world literally chewed him up and spit him out, and he moved to New Zealand.

And it was just not good for him. I'm happy that at least, honestly, I'm grateful to Jake Sokes for giving Morgan Evans a tiny platform.

Yeah. I feel bad for him. We I didn't even have heard about the interview with Bobby Bones. So maybe that's what Chase was doing.

Lifting up others.

Lifting up his ex's ex.

Let's dive into Queenie and Weanie, our final segment of the week, where Jackie and I just like to take a look. Take a look at the week. Sit back at a glance, look at the week and deliver two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weanie of the Week. It actually derives from a childhood game where in a very mean-spirited way, we used to all vote on who was the Weanie of the Week at the dinner table, and it was somehow always me or Margot because Olivia and Jackie teamed up for it to never be them. So they would just count on Margot and I to turn on each other at one point, and it worked every single time flawlessly. And I've taken my power back, and we're doing Queenie of the Week. So it's not a big deal. If you're Weanie of the Week, it's okay.

We also have Beverly Hills recap.

Oh. So what should we do first?

Well, Now that you've done this whole introduction,. Okay.. Queenie of the Week, my queenie this week is Ballerina Farm, who just had her ninth baby, a baby girl. Her and her husband posted a video from the childbirth bed. She gave birth two days ago, and they posted this video yesterday with Baby on the T, just saying, Mom and Baby are doing well. She had her baby, and I just think she's such a queenie. I know Hater is going to hate, hate, hate, but I just love her. She makes it look so easy. I know from personal experience that it's not, but it's so aspirational to see someone who's just having them babies, crushing her career, looking so happy and in love in her marriage, and doing exactly what she wants to be doing in her life because she can't be a ballerina forever.

That's beautiful. My queen is like a similar elk. It's Lisa Rinna. I feel like I spend a lot of time being very hard on Lisa Rinna, and I just find myself being really drawn to her recently. I think she's really funny. I think she's a great reality star. I'm actually really wanting to read her book. I feel like there was maybe a time where I would have given her weaning of the week, several weeks in a row. But I feel like she took a beat. She humbled herself a little bit. She's returned to the Bravo universe, and she's slaying. I love her friendship with Maura. I don't know. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm loving Lisa. Okay. And you know what? Normalize changing your opinions based on new information. I had a couple of other contenders. I wanted to give Kylie my queeny of the week because the way she slayed the house down.

I feel like- She's always... She's queeny of the week every week. She is queeny of the week. So we're just trying to give it to people who don't have a crowd.

I know, who don't normally... And you know what it is? Not to pit Sister Against Sister, but I feel like Kim's always talking about how she's so desperate to prove everyone wrong and just Excel at everything she does, whether it's going to law school or whether it's being an actor. And I just feel like Kylie didn't even try. She just showed up and literally delivered. I don't even know if she practiced. One of the most stunning acting performances, and then Kim gets clowned on for her whole TV show. Not to pit Sister Against Sister, of course.

Yeah, but it just goes to show like, Hiley's.

She's just effortlessly a queenie.

Yeah.

The effortless queenie. Now, Weanie of the Week.

My Weanie is She Stokes. Oh, that's good. Like engaging in textbook Weanie behavior.

Yeah. Textbook. Speaking of textbook Weanie behavior, she's not my weaning, but of course, Haelia Glassman comes to mind. Of course. For Weanie-like behavior. But yes, I wanted to use this as a platform to talk about how devastated I am about the cancelation of season 2, or not even, the on renewal, the non-picking up of season 2 of Paul American. My weaning goes to whoever made that decision, I don't know because I don't work at Max, but I know there was somebody there who was just like, We need to cancel some shit. Sure, let's cancel the show that was life-changing for so many young women. I'm fucking upset. I knew because it's been so long and we heard nothing. When a show gets picked up, they tell you. So I had a feeling to find out in some turnt clip. I was just upset.

I'm upset. I just feel like it's not too late. You know the footage is there and the Paul brothers own it. And can someone just buy it from them and put it up? Because we love Paul American. We love Paul American. Everybody loves Paul American. What's wrong with you guys?

And what's so funny is that Paul brothers are actually quite polarizing. People have so many hot takes when it comes to them in sports, in politics. But something about their show, It was just very humanizing. Yeah, we moved on. It was nice. It was nice. It was nice.

It was nice. There were so many different things happening. It was so crazy. Yeah. Wwe, Utah.

Sports, family.

The boxing, Mike Tyson.

Motherhood. Yeah. So annoying. Real Housewives Beverly Hills. I can't believe we're ready on our third trip, and not a lot has happened.

No, and we were in the Hamptons with three girls for three to four weeks.

Wait, why was the Hamptons trip so many episodes. I was thinking that, too. I don't know.

They're really dragging it out. And then half of this episode is the traveling to Italy and then a conversation in Italy and- About like, Jury being late.

I don't give a fuck.

And next week is Italy, but it was a very... This episode was just filler. So last week's was even more. Yeah, I watched both of them last night, and I don't know if I was just watching without intention. No, you weren't. It sucks. Or it wasn't like...

I'm sorry. How much time are we going to devote to her picking out her plates for her wedding, Amanda Francis?

Oh, I actually thought that was interesting. No. Just because she's a wild woman.

She's so nutty.

She's so nutty, but that's entertaining. I liked hearing about her wedding. Budget? The budget, just because she's being like, Dana, 25,000. Yes, yes. I love that. That's why we started watching Housewives. And it was like, I wasn't feeling relatable, but I was being entertained.

Yeah. I actually love this trip, just in terms of its trip, like the itinerary, Bo's absolutely slayed. The Real House of Beverly Hills, they always get the best trips, and this is really sick. I don't know what's going to happen. I'm loving Sutton this season. She always says, every season, she always resets, and she never follows through with it. But so far, she's pretty much followed through. How far into the season are we? Are we halfway?

Maybe. Maybe about halfway.

I actually really, and I think she's earnestly trying to help Amanda, I believe it goes south pretty quickly next week.

But I understand where she's coming from. Okay, whatever happened, happened two weeks ago. Now it's a shitty position to be in to feel isolated, and all the girls are so close, and Sutton has been there and like, Oh, now that everyone doesn't hate her, she's just going to jump ship. I think It was nice that she is trying to take Amanda under her wing, whether or not Amanda will- Let her. Accept her advice and try not to- I'm also over the Amanda thing.

I think the weirder thing was her reaction to it, and then that awful dinner party at Rachel's. I thought that was just really crazy behavior. I don't even care so much about the Dorit thing because it is more about Kyle and Doreet. And just Kyle keeps doing the same thing over and over, and it's so frustrating. It's true. You spend four days with Dorit in the Hamptons under the guise of, let's get together. Let's all get along. Rekindle our friendship. And you're calling Bowes, talking shit. If you had a legitimate concern about your friend, you would bring it up to her face to face. And Kyle's so claiming. She's desperate to help Doreet, desperate to get her message to Doreet. Well, if I tell Doreet to face to face, it's not going to work. Maybe I'll tell Boze. Why don't you just shut up?

Well, here's the thing. If she told... It all comes back to the fact that Kyle's not well-intended for Doreet. So if she had said it to Doreet's face, it could have been confrontational. But also the idea of telling it to a friend who could get through to her is not a bad idea. But just knowing how Kyle talks about Dorit in her confessionals, we know- And to the others, Amanda. That she doesn't believe Dorit when it comes to PK stuff, that she's more on PK side, that her and Mauricio think Dorit is crazy. You're not well-intended. And so that's why it's not landed whatever you're saying, because you're not her friend. You're not being her friend. Because if Bo said something to her straight, face-to-face, Dorit knows in her bones, Bo is looking out for her. Looking out for her. And so even going to a friend to tell her, it's still the person... The messenger The messenger and the message. And you don't seem to really care about Dorit's interest because you also wouldn't be saying this stuff on camera.

I also love that Dorit brought up. I totally forgot about that one season where Kyle was acting so weird, working out, stopped drinking, getting tattoos. That was the season that her marriage was falling apart. We didn't know it at the time, but now when we found out, we were like, Oh, yeah, she's been so crazy. Dorit must have known. She's like, I didn't do half the shit that you're doing to me because I actually cared about you. If I I mean, so it really is the perfect comparison and the fact that like- But they also showed the clip of Dorit asking her about it.

But even in the way that, they were really good friends. Of course, you trust that person. That's the way that you ask a friend. Of course. Dorit and Kyle are adversaries this season, and they've been for a few years.

Why is Kyle insistent on being a fake friend.

Right.

The... What was I going to say? The conversation between... I forgot where I was going with this, but- It's Was it all about Doreet and Kyle? No, it was about... Whatever. I don't know. So much time devoted to the travel of it all. Why do I give a fuck that they traveled in three different groups?

Right. And why did they travel in three different groups? It also made Doreet being late, not as big of a deal because she could have gotten on the next flight. It's not that they all traveled together.

I just want to say, it was a commercial flight, and she made it. So why were they being so dramatic? I really like Rachel, how she refuses to just everyone... Erica is pissing me off. Her fatal flaw is she's so loyal to Kyle. And out of all the friendships that have come from the show, this is the last one that's really remained for her.

No, I think that she loves to read in Kyle pretty much equally. And for a while, she's been riding the fence. But I think Dorit is pissing her off. And Dorit is manic, and she has a lot going on. And I think for Erica, who also has a lot of chaos in her life. Like, she can't... They're opposites right now where they're not what each other needs. So I think when Erica, who again has chaos, sees Dorit and the way she's acting, it's just not what she's gravitating towards. And then Kyle over here is not that way. And I think she just sees Kyle's side a little bit more because Doreet's energy is not aligned with Erica's at the moment. That's all. Yeah. No, that's fair. I don't think she hates her or anything, but I just think you're late. But I can't even imagine what's going on in Doreet's house, where if she has to get out the door and go to Italy for a few days, she's too young. It's a lot. She's not just late for late's sake. I mean, I don't know what she was doing in the Hamptons house, saying her outfits were too false.

She just... By the way, the reason why she bought everything at Love Shack Fancy is not because she's mad, it's because everything looked amazing on her. That store is like a drug.

Kyle's also annoying. She had glam at 2: 00 AM. Well, she's filming a TV show. She didn't just get glam for an airplane. It's just annoying.

Oh, that too.

But then you land and you have full glam. I get it.

When Dorit was trying on everything at Love Shack Fancy, she needed to buy everything.

Oh, and Rachel Zoe is there hyping you up.

Styling her? Yeah, please. But then I don't understand why she didn't have an outfit for the backyard. She was wearing black. And then she came in wearing all black after complaining everything she bought was too fall. But we saw the pink summer dress. What about the blue outfit? So that's when I'm like, and your kids aren't there. So I'm like, why couldn't she get down to the dinner in a family manor?

We know this about her, like with Teddy.

She's a chronically late person. I can understand why that is annoying. And when it's like that, yeah, I wouldn't really have a lot of patience for that. But when she's trying to get out the to go to Italy for a few days for a work trip, essentially, and she has her kids, and she has chaos going on at home, I just feel sorry for her. I'm not like, You're late because you're so self-absorbed. So I would hope the girls would have a little more grace.

And I guess they're soft launching Natalie because she's on the trip.

Who is she married to again? Not Simon Cowell. Simon Bowler, his ex-wife. Okay. Who also produced American Idol. And the way that they've gone about... Launching her? Bringing Natalie into the fold is in a way that had not been...

Makes me disinterested.

Interesting for me. Yeah. They must have thought she was going to be on the show, brought her on the house, and then now they're cutting away all her scenes, and she's just on the trips.

Which I can't imagine how boring her scenes were because there's not other stuff going on. You know?

Yeah. But I guess Amanda took the cake and Jennifer Tilly is still...

Yeah, I need Jennifer Tilly and Cathy to arrive. Their filler is so interesting to me. Everything else is really boring. Yeah. And I love her a lot, Rachel, though, but I do feel like she's sharing so much personal stuff, which is a lot for a first-time housewife. But her husband, a very high profile. But I'm getting a little... Okay.

You're bored by it?

I'm like, I've had enough. I get it. You're getting divorced. And I feel like these big conversations that you're having with your kids on camera.

I thought that was crazy that she told- I thought it was insane. That they're getting divorced on camera. Yeah.

Maybe that- And they're clearly very mature, intelligent boys. And they love her, but maybe she had the conversation with them before and said, We're going to do this fake thing. But I I thought it was weird.

Yeah.

Like, bleeding out in that way.

Yeah. Also, not to make it about us, but were you realizing when she said a year ago, her marriage ended?

And that's when we had dinner with her?

I looked in my phone. It wasn't when we went to the Rachel Zoe for Love Shack Fancy dinner. But that was the month that we went at- We forgot that dinner we went to was Love Shack Fancy at X Rachel Zoe.

She couldn't have given Dorita credit.

Right. Yeah, she couldn't have even got those things comped or sent her a bunch of gifting.

Also some drama. I saw that she was interviewed in an interview magazine, and they were like, Let's talk about assistance. And she was like, Oh, triggering. I've had some of the best, some of the worst. And Brad Gresky commented on it on Instagram and was like, Triggering. Imagine how we feel. Tarap. And named a bunch of people who I guess were former assistants.

So I don't know the tea and the Lauren and Brad has gone on to do amazing things, but I would just say, Just leave her alone. She's finally back. We all know she's a terrible... She hasn't seen the sweetest- I don't think she was a terrible.

I think how it was portrayed on the show was that her long, long, long-time assistant, Brad Goresky, love of her life, lived in her house, one of those- Betrayed her, went out on his own. Betrayed her, went out on his own, which is not necessarily betrayed, but took clients, which is at the time, she was a celebrity stylist. She doesn't really do that anymore. But she was the biggest stylist in the city, I mean, in LA, and he took a bunch of her clients, and it was a really, really big deal. Now, so much time has passed. She doesn't even do that anymore. They're not competing with one another. He's a successful celebrity stylist. She's a media mogul, licensing queen, Zo Report, not even in the same. But maybe Brad feels like the story was misrepresented because the story is- Because he was the villain in the story.

He stabbed her in the back. Well, I just feel like she seems to me like the elk of early 2000s horrible bosses. Intense person to work for. Kelly Cattrown.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And okay.

Yeah.

That's fine. That doesn't seem in Congress. With the girl we know. Yeah. But the whole thing was on TV. They would never say it about a man.

No, they wouldn't, actually. Yeah. A man, like, yeah. Yeah.

So I just feel like that bygones me. You guys are both thriving. I don't even remember what happened in my impression of it, but I just feel like, Oh, yeah, she's a tough cookie. No, he has really- That's what it takes.

He has really successfully changed what people think, because for a while, he was the guy, the Benedict. It was insane that he did that. And when we saw him styling clients, it was just crazy. But him and Gary, they have Totally. Everyone forgets.

You know what I think about him with who I feel like is the best endorsement of one's character?

Oh, character. I thought you were going to say one's skill because he- No, no, no. Demi Moore. No, no, no.

His character. Who? Tanya Rad is his best friend. True, true. And she's the The gooddest person I've ever met.

Very true, very true.

And so- So he must be also. He's good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, and by the way, I met him. He's the nicest guy ever. I'm talking about perception-wise. He was for many years the guy who stabbed Rachel Stone in the back. And now he's the guy with the very success. He's a huge celebrity stylist. He really brought Demi Moore back into the fold of fashion. And then, of course, him and Gary, everybody loves their Starbucks Instagram thing. So he's very successfully moved away from that. But I think it probably plagued him for many years.

Yeah. And I'm sure if he has beef, then seeing Rachel Zoe coming back on TV, he probably wants to say his stuff. But I just... No, both do your own thing. Yeah, agreed. We can share on both of you. I've moved on. Don't pit yourselves against each other because I'm rooting for both of you. I've moved on. And don't make me take aside.

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