Transcript of A Very Berry Wednesderry: Wednesday, March 11th, 2026

Good morning, girlies. It's The Toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.

It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's The Toast.

They sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Wednesday. Yeah, I think. Back check. Sorry, We just have so much going on as successful businesswomen that I can't... What day of the week it is, it's none of my business.

No. And so much has already happened this morning. I got such a morning.

I was up with the sun.

I already had a day, so maybe it's Thursday.

I actually was up with the sun. I watch the sun rise.

Well, that's the beautiful thing about this portion of the daylight savings.

No, because I shouldn't have to wake up to my alarm at 7: 00 and it be pitch black. That's low-key absurd. I don't know why people can't get it right. Like, with the time. When I wake up, it should be bright, and when I go to bed, it should be dark. I don't know why daylight savings- You're a farmer. No, and I just want to say something else about daylight savings. Every time we talk- You're a farmer. Every time we talk about daylight savings, people are like, Guys, you're wrong. It's not for the farmers. And then people are like, Yes, it is. Nobody knows why. Everyone's always coming at us like, We're wrong about daylight savings, but you don't know. What is it for? Nobody actually knows. Every time we talk about it, people are like, You guys are so wrong. And people are like, No, they're actually right. I don't care if we're wrong or right. It seems like nobody knows what the fuck it's for.

Even though this is the lesser of the savings because we lost the hour of love and friendship and fortitude and fulfillment.

Basically said, true sisterhood.

I'm reminded that I actually like this time of year because it stays light out longer. We always go outside after dinner, which we did last night We had a whole another portion of our evening. No, that's great. However, then by the time all the kids were down, it was like, and I could get my wits about me, and I had to take my shower. It's 8: 30, and I have no night.

Yeah. And also, I'm a a bedtime Nazi. Just because it's bright out, we keep the bedtime. So it's like I'm putting it through to bed. It's bright out. Like the sun is in our eyes as we're giving the final bottle.

It makes no sense. I find that the bedtimes change with the seasons in my household. Because remember when I did my big push-up a couple months ago? That was after a Daylight Savings. I was like, It's dark out. Let these kids go to sleep. So we also say we're a bunch of farmers in my house. We're up and down with the sun.

We're farmers, but also businesswomen. We are very excited to announce a major launch in the Spritz Society universe today. We do a lot of collaborations, right? Of course, We did our famous Clawson Pickle collab. We did V8, Bloody Mary collab. We are doing, for the very first time ever, a non-alcoholic Q-Lab. So this is for the sober sisters, for the people who just don't want to turn up. It is in collaboration with Keels, which is one of the parches. Actually, we went on a whole tirade about Keels a year ago, how it's the only good skincare company out there. And we are honored to have made our first non-alcoholic beverage with them. It's a hydration drink. It's low calorie. It's delicious. It's blueberry. It's all about feeling hydrated. It's all about feeling refreshed. Here's the can, if I could get a little close up. It is our Ultra Berry, Mixed Berry, an electrolyte beverage. It's so good. I have to say, Ben really crushed this one.

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Ben's actually in New York today, hosting a meet and greet. Okay, like diva extraordinaire. Oh, and he's blogging the whole thing I meant to tell you. And of course, in the most Ben fashion, Ben doesn't like to spend the night away. So he's in and out. We flew out at the crack of dawn this morning. He's sitting on the tarmac in New York already late. So what does he do? Perfect for the vlog. He text a guy. Ben's already in the city because he took a helicopter from JFK. It's going to be the vlog of a century, honestly. I said to him, I'm like, Don't forget, you have to film everything. Ben's never vlogged before. So I'm like, Bring your microphone. You have to vlog in the Uber. And he's like, I'm crushing it. I'm crushing it. I'm actually afraid. The Spritz social media gal will be handling most of it once he's there. But up until then, Ben is responsible. He's logging from the helicopter. So, Ben.

I'm so excited to see. I feel like it's when you give a kid a phone and they take all their pictures and you see the day from their- Their eyes.

I just want to say, if you want to get Spritz X Keels, go to spritzsociety. Com/ultra It launches today, March 11th at 12: 00 PM Eastern Time. Oh, you know what else I found out? We're not saying Eastern Standard Time.

Because we're not on standard. Right.

It's Eastern Daylight Time, EDT. Isn't that crazy?

I'll stick with ET. Yeah.

I just want to say that's something I'm not doing. Phone home. Like, daylight savings has messed with me enough. I'm not doing that. We're not doing that.

No. Wow. Okay. Well, spiritsociety. Com/ultraberry. It's actually delicious. And it's electrolytes. You know I start every day with electrolytes. You know that? Me too. I saw a reel once, of course, that was like 100% of people start their day with coffee or whatever. And then he said, If you start your day with electrolytes before your coffee, you are better than 98% of people. It's a small thing. And then he told me chia seeds and all this other stuff, which nobody has time for that. But still, I'm like, 98%.

We also, that's one of my favorite statistics. We're better than 99% of podcasters because most podcasters never make it past their fifth episode or whatever. Oh, really? What's that sad? It's like, If you make it past your third episode, you're already doing better than 98% of failed podcasts.

That feels like such a low bar. I know.

I feel like- I think it might be a really old statistic.

Where there are just so many podcasts where people are like, let's start not even influence- Just friends. Just like friends to put out a couple of episodes. I I feel like- Oh, my God.

Do you remember our List of Failed Celebrity Podcast?

Yeah. Do you want to add to it?

No, we just need to remember that we have that. Yeah.

But they die with a wimper, not a thud.

I know. It's Confessions of a Female founder.

It's called the Confessions of a Female founder List.

No, the List is Ashley Graham-inspired, at least for me. Do you remember when her podcast was the biggest deal and Kim went on it?

No, I don't. For me, when I think of that list- We have Olivia and Margot on there. And Schwitz.

Yeah, but Ben is not a failed podcaster. He just had a failed podcast. Okay.

I didn't say Ben, I said Schwitz. When I think of that list, whom comes to mind- Anna Faris. No. We discussed Anna Farris. It's not a failed podcaster. She's a retired one. Yeah. Emily Ratajkowski remember when her podcast was the biggest deal that ever launched?

Yeah. It was like an international. It was like a Sony-produced.

And then also, I just think of one of the COVID podcasts of- Some good news. No. Phineas and Claudia, they did a- Did they? Yeah, they bought a house, and then they called it We Bought A House. We Bought A House.

Is that on the list?

It should be. I think so. That's one of my go-to COVID podcasts.

I have to tell you, I hate a lot of people.

I'll search Ashley Graham.

And I don't know if there's anyone I hate more than Phineas. I think there is something deeply sinister, and I want to say downright evil about him. He just says of really just hateful things, and nobody bats an eye. He was hating on Taylor Swift as him and his Shugana sister do. And he was like, She's the Israel of the music industry, as a slur. The way I fucking hate Phineas, and honestly, if I ever see him in person. It's on fucking site, bitch. Okay? Sorry, continue.

Do you want to hear the list? Yeah. I love the list. A little morning list.

The list of celebrity podcasts that were at once the biggest deal in the world and then just died so slowly and quietly. Yeah.

Jay Cutler is the top of the list. I didn't know his podcast It was over.

Why would he be the top? I didn't know he had a podcast.

No, we knew because remember, he had Sophia with an F on and we were shipping, and then he was causing drama with his podcast.

Oh, yeah, I remember.

But I didn't know it was over. He's so the elk of podcaster.

These podcasts just bring me back. It's like, nostalgia.

Everyone is a trip down Emrata.

Yeah, of course.

Not only is Confessions of a Female founder now have to be on it. Archetypes. Archetypes.

Yeah, she's a double platinum award-winning podcaster.

Confessions of a Female founder I was not previously on, so I just added that.

Yeah, no, I'm saying we forgot about this list, but it's one of our most important lists.

Archetypes. Kim's Spotify podcast about- Of course.

Social Justice. Yeah.

Michelle Obama wants the biggest deal.

I feel like- It still releases episodes.

She has a new podcast.

Oh, the other one.

The Spotify one. When we early in our podcasting, she was always in the charts.

She legitimized the industry a lot. Oh, yeah.

And then no podcast.

She has a new one with her brother that I think is not popular. What?

I think is not popular.

No, it's not.

Okay, cool.

Is that mean? Sorry. I'm sorry. I did not mean that to be Shade at all. I didn't say it wasn't good. I just said it wasn't popular. I don't see it on the charts. And you know, I'm always talking the charts.

So I feel like she's not a fail posture. She's retired and then came out of retirement.

When I think of the list, I don't think of her.

No, she put in her time as a podcaster. It's true.

And she was at one point a successful This list is for people whose podcast were launched, made it such a big deal, Emily Ratajkowski. And not only did it not succeed, it actually ended. It was so bad and poorly received. I would take Michelle Obama off that list.

Yeah, I agree. Ashley Graham.

That to me, she's the blueprint for the list.

Anderson Cooper. What? Learning it's something new every day. Ellen Pompeo, that were mentioned.

She's like a founding father of this list.

Margot Olivia Oshery.

Classic.

And Phineas and Claudia.

Okay.

So that's fair.

That's Sure. Oh, I love when we take a walk down Listy Lane.

Listey Lane. My favorite place.

Me too. What else? What did you last night?

What else? I watched H. R. A. I watched Summerhouse. Oh. And I have something to say. It's not a good season. Okay. It's been six episodes. Every time I start the episode, I'm like, Wait, is this the right episode? I feel like I've watched this already. And I go back into it and I find it again. I'm like, Oh, this is the new episode. Okay. It's not good. Last night, Ben, the new guy Ben, was yelling at Bayly, Stop it. She made a bad joke that made everyone feel awkward. She joked about how Ben wants to sleep with Amanda, but it's like, Okay, so she made a bad joke. I don't know.

That's a crazy joke.

Well, they always talk about how they went skinny to be in the south of France.

And he does- They're insinuating it, and she just said it.

Yeah. No, and it was uncomfortable and awkward, but she's an awkward girl. Leave her alone. It's her first time on TV. She's not ill-intended.

Yeah. Well, I'm glad that it's bad because I'm not watching it, but I'm glad that you are watching it because you did say something that actually really has changed my perspective a lot on Amanda, because at first when she got divorced and everybody was championing her, I'm like, Stop championing her. This was her choice. We all knew. We told her a million times, she's not free. She was in self-imposed prison. I actually really don't feel bad for her or champion her at all. But you did point out, and now I saw her, she just went on Jason Tartuffe's podcast and I was just watching clips. It's actually really almost admirable how she refuses to join in on the joyous celebration that everyone is clowning on her ex-husband. We always are demanding and asking people to stop spreading their ass cheeks open and telling us what happened in their relationship. Can nothing be private? Can you not just have respect for the person who was your- Who you once loved, who was your family? And she's actually the first person in recent memory to not go down that rabbit hole, tell all podcast. And every time she goes on a podcast, every time she talks about Kyle, it is with the utmost respect.

And you know what? Maybe he wasn't a great husband, but he does deserve that privacy and respect. And so you really did change my perspective on that. Yeah.

It would be so easy for her to be like, Yeah, F him.

Everyone would love it.

She could write a book. Yeah. But I think that this is way classier And ultimately, it speaks better of her. It's like, Oh, you did love this person. It's not like I just had to flip the switch, and now it's the opposite because you champion this person for so many years. And now what you... He's the same person. It's not like he did something, so he's the same person. And so it's like, you loved him and now you hate him. Now it's like, oh, you loved him, and now you can respect and like him. So I think that that's a better look.

Yeah, I agree. It's actually really endearing her to me. Yeah, but I'm not watching. No.

And I'll keep watching because also it's like, Zack likes it, too, but it's not a good season, and I just had to, I think I can call it.

I don't know if it's going to be a story because it didn't happen, but can we talk about Demois really quickly?

It's a story because it didn't happen. Because then stuff happened. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. Stuff happened in regards to the things that didn't happen. Exactly. And the things in which we hide from the light.

And in regards to the things that didn't happen, I feel like we should get into things that did and did not happen.

Hopefully, things that did.

In the fast five stories that you. Do need to know.

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Now, let's start with what you mentioned, the Dumois. Let's just finish that thought.

Because I actually got to clutch my pearls when Dumois said that this thing happened before I found out that it didn't happen. So in the one hour where I thought this thing happened, I was actually shocked. And it takes a lot to shock me.

I didn't have an hour with the news. I had a mere minute. But basically, Dumont posted a photo of Braxton Barrios walking in the street with a lady who looked like Sofia Colpo, and she said, Braxton and Sofia spotted together.

In New York. And let's talk about if that had happened really briefly. I was shook, especially because he was just chatting with Alex. And When I think about Braxton, my most recent thing is we were talking about maybe them getting back together, yada, yada. It ended so poorly with Sophia, and I think Sophia hates him. And Sofia is in a new relationship, and it was just the messiest thing. So I didn't know who I had less respect for. Or him or her, when I saw them together. I'm like, I was shocked. And then he left a comment saying it wasn't her, and I was like, Okay, that makes a lot more sense.

Yeah. That would have been crazy if it was her. It also would have invalidated his relationship with Alex. He's going back to his ex, and That she would take him back. I mean, I was like, oh, wow, that's really crazy. There must be so much more information that we didn't know. But then he commented on the Dumeua post saying, this was not Sofia. It's his friend from college. That's platonic. Platonic.

She got friends owned real quick.

The real girl. Fake news that had the Internet in a tizzie. I can't even tell you how many people sent me that in the span of the one hour it was up.

It's tizzie-worthy, I just want to say. It's really crazy. For anyone who was there at the time and remembers all the drama, Sofia Culpo podcast, them having lunch or whatever would have been the craziest thing. I think Sofia Copo has a voodoo doll of Braxton. She rightfully hates him.

Yeah, but now this begs the question, can Braxton Berrios have platonic female friends?

Who are young and sprightly and hot and look like ex-girlfriends. And his peers. Look enough like his ex-girlfriend to be mistaken for her. Right.

Look enough like his ex-girlfriend that he would be attracted to this look and is a friend of his, so he likes her inside. So why wouldn't that be a lady love?

Yeah. Yeah. And I also feel like his comment was mean. If this girl had any hopes of Braxton falling in love with her, he just friendzoned her so fucking quickly in a comment section.

Yeah, but she must be excited to be friends with Braxton. But I think also, I think he had to shut this shit down because of Alex. Not only would Alex be so hurt if he went back to his ex, because isn't that just the- Awful nightmare. Yeah, like, Oh, fuck. I didn't matter. But I do feel like they love and miss each other. And it's not completely over for forever between them. There might be whatever was stopping them from meeting together, if it could work itself out, like he was traded to the Rams and starting first string, that they could be together again. So he doesn't want to jeopardize his relationship with Alex, even though there's nothing right now, but it would- Potential. If he was with Sophia, she would never want to speak to him again. It would be closed book.

Yeah. Is Braxton employed?

Yeah, the Houston's.

I thought that was a one-year contract.

Well, I think We're getting into free agency season. Right. So maybe we'll be starting to hear some news about- Maybe he will be starting to be unseeding Matthew Stafford at the LA Rehab. Well, he's not a quarterback.

Oh, he's a runner.

Is he a runner? He's a wide receiver? I know. He's not a tight end.

No, he In the beginning of a down when everybody kicks it and runs.

Running back?

I believe he kicks it.

No, I don't think- He's not the kicker.

No, but not kicker of a field goal. Like the punter. He's a wide receiver, a return specialist. Yeah. It's when you punt.

He catches the punt? It sounds like he catches the punt and runs that.

Yeah. Such a specific job. Yeah. I can never do it.

Why?

Running?

But as far as football positions?

What position would I think I'd be best at? Great question.

I feel like kicker is so much pressure. It's the only point where it's solely on your shoulders.

It's the only job where the physical toll is not that big, but the mental load will break you.

Yeah, but the highs It's supposed to be so high. When you score that kick- Extra three points. That gets the game. Oh, man.

Yeah, yeah. But the lows? I think I would definitely thrive as Waterboy. Like, positive encouragement. Cheerleader. Yeah, cheerleader, of course, comes to mind. Cheerleader. But I don't want to want to stunt on those hosts.

So Braxton and Sophia are not spotted together. We can all move forward accordingly.

Can I ask you a question? Mm-hmm. First of all, you think like, Dumont, and I think Dumont does a lot of good work, so I don't want to clown on her, but this is a grave error.

Agreed.

First of all, what are the repercussions for something like this? And second of all, even though I feel like real news outlets misreport things all the time, like pink. She just said, I'm not going to... And What was the repercussions for an actual journalistic institution? But this is such a flop.

I agree. And I feel like Do is probably being hard on herself because- Do is probably being hard on herself. In the last few months, she's really pivoted to being a media outlet.

And a trusted source on a couple of key topics.

And she always had a couple of breaking stories, but also a couple of bad calls in the past. And so you always like, Oh, it's not new mop. It's probably true, but maybe not. Keep your mind open for maybe that it's not true. But I do feel like in the last few months, she's engaged in more responsible reporting. Everything is like a headline. She bills it like a media outlet.

And she does usually have photographic evidence, which she actually did have.

So she's been trying to shift instead of just being like, and random things in an Instagram account. She's really building up a little... I've noticed that Do is working on Do's-self. So this is definitely a setback. However, everyone was talking about it. It was good for Do visibility. As long as she doesn't get sued?

I do feel like when we talk about Do, you know there's a corner of the internet that thinks I'm Do.

I know. Do they still, though?

Yeah. I get tagged in this thing all the time. It's my cross to bear. I actually met Do before Do was Do. Before Do was Do, Do used to be a fashion publicist, and I was at an event, and I took a picture with a bunch of people I don't know, and Do was in it. And so they always- Do not know. It's the only known photo of Do. And so they always use it. And I think sometimes people just assume that I'm due or that I'm in cajoots with due. And then, of course, we can't talk about me being due without talking about one of the best pranks I've ever pulled on April Fool, which was making a video announcing that I'm due. So people also think that video is real, media literacy. So, yeah, I'm due.

I know you would love for people to think that you're due. That's one of your favorite rumors about yourself.

Except I do think being due is hard and scary. It's very isolated. Celebrities also really come for them a lot. Remember Hilly Weaver?

I had due on the toast. Oh, yeah.

In what capacity? Zoom?

We were Zooming. I saw her because I can't speak to someone that I can't see. And then it was only audio. Chilling. And I remember, I feel like she was talking about, I I don't know if this was on the show or when we were just catching up before him, but it's like she's an influencer and she's in the... When she was anonymous, I think she found it to be very isolating because it's like she can't just go grab drinks with her fellow influencers. But she's recently come out, right?

Well, she hasn't come out, but everybody knows her name, and I don't think she cares.

It's not a big and anonymous thing anymore.

It doesn't matter. What happened to the TV show, remember?

Which one?

She wrote a book. You read it. And then it was being optioned for a show on Max. And it sounds like a good concept, but like new age gossip girl.

It does feel like it got lost in the Max Shuffle.

Yeah.

Paramount, Max, HBO, Max to Max, Shuffle.

Back to Max, go now.

Back to Max. Now, go. Someone said it should be called the new one, Paramax.

A little long, but not bad. I guess Netflix, Paramax.

It should be called Maxi.

It should just be called Max or HBO Max, whatever. It should just be called HBO. Sorry.

Maxi Lou.

It should just be called HBO.

Max Nester.

That's good, too.

Maxwell. It should be called Maxwell.

I wanted to say one more thing about Dumois. What was it? Oh, the only real gripe I have with Dumois, because I do feel like she's just doing her best. And I feel like nobody hits Dumois more on this Earth than Ariel Charnis.

Oh, yeah. That was bad.

That was really bad. Dumois started this whole thing with Ariel Charnis. That turned out to be quite literally nothing.

She literally said her husband was arrested.

Gay, arrested at a brothel with a man. Like, really bad. And started this- And criminal.

Oh, yeah. Arrested. She said, he's arrested.

He's in cuffs. Oh, no.

They said he got arrested at Polo Bar. Yeah. No, in Miami.

It was bad. Yeah, it was really bad.

He didn't get arrested.

I feel like that's actually a really big state on her record, if I'm being honest.

I agree. When I think about her credibility, I don't know. That was really bad.

And I just know Ariel Charnis has a do-voo doll. Yeah. A do-doll.

Are you ready for our next story? Travis Kelsey is speaking out on Mama Kelsey's massive home renovations. So the whole Kelsey family is really dining out on this story. As they should, Jason and Travis took to the pod to talk about their mom renovating her house. Travis said that she could have called him to switch out some windows, but she's going the full Monte.

They called their mom on the podcast, which was very us calling Snitch. And they were like, Hey, we're recording. Do you want to tell us about this massive renovation? And she was cracking up. She's like, TMZ posted, and I'm just replacing the windows. She said it's actually been unseasonably cold in Orlando, and her windows are very cheap and old.

She needs impact windows.

And so they were condensation.

And that can provide mold. Right.

And so she said there was a leak. And so she's just doing some routine maintenance.

Well, I do hope after this- Oh, I'm sorry.

She had to file a permit. She said this is how TMZ found out. She had to file a permit to replace the windows. And I guess they've got a Google alert on her permits. Oh, my God. And that's how they found out about her massive renovation.

Fucking cracking up. What? I'm sorry. If after this, like, Carson Cresley isn't down there with a camera.

What's Kohler? You know the- Kohler. Like a home brand.

Honestly, the FAB 5.

Cambridge paving stones with armor tech. They always look like new... She needs a new patio now.

The FAB 5, Queer Eye.

They are disbanded. Their show is over. They all hate each other.

They're still on. They were just doing press.

For the final season, it's over. It's always the final. And then Karamo didn't show I grew up, and Bobby left without a wimper in the night, and they got some new guy. It's bad.

I think the new guy, I think I've seen his stuff.

Jeremiah?

Yeah. Yeah, he was like...

When they cast the original- He was a bullfrog, right? Yes, that's how you know him from his Bullfrog days. When they cast the original Fab 5, it was like a bunch of unknowns who did hair and whatever. But then when they needed to recast Bobby, they brought in a name.

And Tan still does the cooking?

What does he do? He never did the cooking. He did the styling.

Does Antonio do the cooking?

Anthony. Anthony. Yes. And I feel like- That was the craziest part of the show. Why did they need a chef?

To show this person how to eat healthier. But sometimes it wasn't like- Health is wealth. No. If you're eating like crap, it's how you feel about yourself.

Just based on vibes, and I know there's been a lot of drama, and I'm saying this with quite literally no insider information, I do feel the toxicity that's always referred to by now Bobby and Cromo. I feel like it's Anthony.

You don't think it was JVN?

No, I actually don't. Just a feeling.

I think it might have had to do with JVN and whoever's on his team. Just a feeling. And JVN still does it? Yeah. That show was the craziest thing Because when it came out, it was the best thing we had ever seen.

Gangbusters.

And now it's like, you couldn't pay to watch it.

I didn't even know that we were still making seasons. Yeah.

But anyways, Donna needs something like that, like someone to come in. Like, Joanna. I don't know if she still does that. I don't feel like she does.

She needs Joanna. Joanna does it for celebrity clients. Remember, she renovated JLo's home.

Oh, yeah. Which is so crazy. Oh, yeah. And they're recording it for Magnolia.

They have a lot of Magnolia projects. I could see this being a Magnolia.

On Paramax? Discovery.

Magnolia is its own channel.

It's under Discovery, though.

Yes. And according to them, Discovery Plus still exists. I don't know if anybody can confirm that.

So, yeah, they got in on the fun of the renovations. Kylie also talked about it on her podcast. Did she? Yeah. I I didn't get to watch the whole clip because I put my phone down and then I couldn't get back to it. So classic. I always am starting a clip, and then it was just in my algorithm. I guess I could seek it out. I'd know where to find her. It's worse when it's a random. I'm like, Wait, what was that?

That podcast It's not that it's a forgotten podcast, but by any means, it's very popular, and she gets a lot of really good guests. But do you remember when it launched and the New York Times wrote an article that she beat Joe Rogan? That was so crazy.

They love to say that.

But she didn't beat Joe Rogan. She just launched a new podcast.

But her podcast Does this really become an option as a stop.

Yeah. Remember that article we were just talking about that these creators are the new late night? Well, it's more like they're the new press junket, and there are a couple of key stops when you're promoting something. And yes, if you're a woman and you have kids, you go on not going to lie. Yeah. I feel like she competes with the Kelly Clarks and Joe.

Yes, but also call her daddy Jake Shane.

Yeah, for a little bit of an older crowd.

Yeah. It's definitely a niche that she's serving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. And that actually leads perfectly into our story because two people who are just on Not Going to Lie, who are in the news, Tara Lepinsky and Jonny Weer are reportedly being eye to replace Kelly Clarkson. Thoughts.

Oh, wait. I love.

I'm very open to this. Me too. I think this is really interesting. It's ever been done. Just depending on if they're good at it, it could be good, and if they're not good, it could be bad. But I think that it's a left turn, and I like it.

Okay, because I was just watching a clip of them on Chicks in the Office talking about how they have matching Birkins and the story of how they got the Birkins. It wasn't the craziest story ever, but it was just a good story, and they were telling it really well, and I found myself really enjoying the clip. I'm thinking that if they bring that energy, I'm very down. I don't know what it looks like for a duo to host a talk show. It's never been done before, but they got to reinvent the format because it's not so modern.

Yeah, and it's ripe for ripping on. It's not so singular that you have to do it this way. They could have fun with it as long as they have guests on and let them talk because it's a a lot of people talking.

Did you see anything from Pink's Stint? Because Kelly's back now, but Pink's Stint, did you see? No. Kelly Oakey. People are saying she Kelly Clarksend. Kelly Clarksend because she sing Lighthouse from the new album. I didn't choose a win-butter. And honestly, it was really good. It was an amazing cover. It's also just an amazing song, so I love to see somebody.

Yeah, I wonder how Tara and Johnny can...

The singing.

Fill that hole.

Wait, that's a good call.

But also Tarek It has Jenna Bush-Hager energy. Just nice lady in your home, funny and humble and sweet.

Yes. And while there, I would say a majority of their time on Traitors was a waste, The last couple of episodes where they finally revealed their secret, actually, I found them to be a funny duo. I wish they had just done that the whole time because it wasn't display anyway.

We were so hard on them. If you told us at the beginning of The Traitors, by the end of the show- They were giving us nothing. By the end of the show, you're going to championing the two of them to take over for Kelly Clarkson. I actually would think that you're mad. And the thing is, when you say it like that, it sounds different than what it is right now. No one's ever going to be Kelly. They have to fill the slot. They have to try something different with two people who are just, not safe, but just easy and warm and can talk. They also do host for the Olympics, so they're not novices to the format.

Speaking of traitors in Kelly Clarkson, Rob was on the Kelly Clarkson show with Daniel Radcliffe, and it turns that both Daniel and Kelly Clarkson had watched the season and had a ton of questions for Rob. It was an amazing interview.

Kelly said that Rob should be an actor.

Yeah, that he is what it takes because he was so great at fooling everyone. Yeah. Which is true. Maybe an actor Does she cast a full actor on?

Well, they have. Who? Lisa Rinna.

Oh, I guess. But I really don't consider her an actor.

Claudia, she is an actress. Is she? That's why she was on Housewise.

I thought she was a host.

No.

She was in Melrose or whatever.

General Hospital, all those 90 shows.

Right, that's funny. Okay, but more actors.

Okay. Because when- Michael Rappaport is an actor. He was on Friends.

But again.

But he was on Friends. Right.

It's such a great episode, by the way. He plays Phoebe's Boyfriend.

Who else is an actor?

They have actors on there who do other things. You know what I mean? They need an actor by trade.

No, those two are actors by trade, but more actors.

Oh, my God. Speaking of, I can't believe we've sat here for so long and not told everybody about the Patreon episode we recorded yesterday, which is being lauded as our best episode yet and will become a monthly installment. We played the game Headbands, which it's like heads up. You basically put an index card on your forehead. We did pop culture edition, so celebrities. And you basically play 20 questions where you just keep asking questions about the person on your forehead. You don't know who the person is. It was seriously so funny. I had so much fun.

The crazy thing about it is I had so much fun doing it. I thought it was hysterical. Watching it is even funnier when you're sitting there with a person on your head.

And of course, we did funny people.

Oh, because we're funny gals. It was amazing. Monthly installment, for sure.

We'll have to figure out how to do it remotely when I go back, which I am going back. I just wanted to tell everyone that. There's one more thing I have to do, and then I'm going back.

Okay. If you insist.

Just letting you know.

So that's the latest on Kelly's Rumors. If they just put this out there to feel how the world feels about it, I'm very open.

But they do need to supplement that musical element. I don't know how those I'll have to fix that.

Maybe like a third. Someone who just sings, but then it's just someone who just sing. It's a lot. I'll do it.

Okay, I'll do it.

Are you ready for our third story, which is a little biopic news? Jon Bonjovi's music biopic is in the works at Universal.

Okay, I like this.

Bon Jovi is getting the big screen treatment. Universal has won a Bitting more tobacco feature film about the rock band behind hits like Living on a Prayer, You Give Love a Bad Name, and It's My Life. Oh, that's a banger.

So clay. Bonja Bon Jovi is so clay. I wonder if he knows. He only is known by young people today because of clay. His legacy lives on through Lea Michelle's dream.

A director has not been set, nor the cast or anything, but I wonder who will get the job.

Oh, of J. B. J. Let me see. Of John. But it's young John, right? Oh, so cute when he was younger. I want to say one thing. Bon Jobe, I feel, is, I feel, is is is is is is is is I don't know if he's had a crazy... I think he's still married to his O. G. Wife, mother of his kids, which we love. But a lot of those biopics are about people who do drugs and are crazy. I don't know. He gives just dad from New Jersey vibes. So I don't know how interesting of a movie that is.

No, I'm down. I'm sure that's an inspiring story.

By the way, you know what movie came and went without a wimper? The Bruce Springsteen one.

Is it out? Oh, yeah.

It came out a year ago. Jeremy Allen White. With Undies, boy. Undies, yeah. Let me say, who does he look like? He's very handsome.

But the person would also sing, right?

Yeah, but I guess if they found the right person and that person didn't sing, they could- Austin Butler is already. Honestly, it's a good call.

He's already growing his hair.

They could do an unknown.

I don't think Austin Butler would do this because he needs to do something else. Different.

But he needs to do something. Doesn't he have to pay his bills? Austin Butler hasn't worked in years. No one's coming to mind.

Glenn Powell. Assessed. But he doesn't sing. Cordova Street, your best friend. Allegedly Pug Caso.

It's not Pug Casa. I feel like it's confirmed Phil Phillips, right?

That would be so crazy. That would be so crazy. Tonight's the night.

Is it messing around Wednesdays?

But is it the finale? No. Oh, you sounded like it was the finale.

No, but maybe Pug Caso goes home tonight.

I don't think so. I think he's going to win.

He's amazing. There's still some bad people in.

Yeah. Who's still in?

Galaxy Girl. Okay. Stingray.

Stingray. Do you know who that is?

I believe that both of them are Evan Ross and Ashley Simpson. I think they cast a husband and wife. Is that what she's saying? Yeah.

I think that's really cute.

I think there's some athletes left. I don't know.

Well, I'm rooting for Pug Casa.

We know.

But so are you now, too. Yeah.

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Are you ready for our next story? A little more show business news because dancing with the stars duo Whitney Lyovid and Mark Ballas will unite on Broadway for a run in Chicago. So as we know, Whitney is on Chicago playing Roxyheart.

And now Mark- And so successfully, by the way, the tickets are sold out every night. They are a It was like people are screaming on TikTok about how expensive the tickets are, the resales are insane. She's literally like... It's Giving Showgirl. Back when Broadway was like, It's Giving Showgirl, my book, Evelyn Asbit.

I feel like whenever someone plays Roxy, we always hear this. Tickets are Oh, really?

I actually feel like when people do Roxy, it's cool, but it doesn't change the show at all. It's just the same show.

This seems bigger than everyone else's, but I do feel like it's always a boom for the show, but it's also a small run.

It's so funny. I actually feel the total opposite. Really? I feel like she's the most successful Roxy they've ever had. This is what they're always trying to get when they cast random people.

No, I feel like it was good with Ariana Maddox.

I don't remember people clamoring for tickets. Really? Yeah. Also, I just want to say I keep talking about the book that I read, and I guess I haven't said the name of the book, so I want to apologize. It's It Girl by Allison Pataki.

I feel like we did, but it was like- So quickly. No, we literally did. We said how that's an amazing name for a book, like It Girl.

Yeah, but I don't think we said It Girl. I said you were like, The name is really good.

Mark Ballis will be returning to the boards whatever that means. He'll play Slick Talking Lawyer Billy Flynn.

This is so brilliant.

They'll be working and dancing together once again.

Great. Why didn't they do this sooner? It's a great idea. She's excited. I'm sure he's excited.

Yeah.

Love that. Do you think She's off the show. No. You think she'll go back? Because I know she's on this current season. They're all doing press, but she's not. And that's because she's not in Utah and whatever. She can't go do press.

But she can do press in New York. They don't do press in Utah. They actually like... Sorry.

Yeah. But I think her doing press Yeah, I guess she hasn't done any press. I haven't seen. I saw all the girls doing stuff. You'll see Jessie talking about her face. There's drama with her doctor.

I saw her in a video saying that she is mad at herself.

No, she's also is mad of the doctor. She said she was swaying and lied to him at the recovery. And she was also posting about the doctor. So it's weird.

What did she do?

Like skin grafts? I don't know. Like bigger than she intended. I think she went in just to fix something and ended up doing a bunch of stuff.

She said that on this forthcoming season, she likes how she looks. It's before. It's before, yeah. So what we're about to watch is not what she's talking about.

The new face. Maybe what she talks about the journey.

Yeah. Or we'll see what she was doing, what she had planned to do.

Yeah.

But then in the video where she was talking about it, she was wearing sunglasses. So I couldn't really see what she didn't like.

I do want to say, and I just, oh, I forgot to update everyone. I went back to the dermatologist yesterday. I got that mole removed. Just, I know you guys were waiting. But I did get filler. I got the filler and Botox, and I came for a checkup. And I've recently come to the decision that I don't think I ever want to get a facelift. Do you know what I mean? When Jessie was saying her journey, I was like, That literally sounds horrible. So I've decided, big news, I'm going to stay out of the sun.

Or are they just going to age gracefully?

No, no. I'm still going to get filler and stuff, but I feel like I'm in the sun a lot.

That's not what I meant, no filler, but are you just going to age?

No, I'm going to do stuff, lasers and all that, but I don't think I want to undergo the knife. So I'm going to start protecting my skin.

You were in the sun yesterday when I facetimed. You were on the beach.

I was at the beach wearing sunblock on my face and a hat. Usually, I'm crazy. I don't wear sunblock. I just lay out. And I want my body to be tan, of course. And I was laying on my stomach so my face was out of the sun.

So the message is you're going to start wearing sunblock?

I'm going to start wearing sunblock. I'm going to stop laying out, roasting so much and just face... I used to literally raw dog it, first of all, no sunblock on my face and just get super burned and would be happy about it. But now I'm going to be taking more precautions because I really feel like... And when I went to the doctor, she was like, You have a lot of sun damage on your chest. I'm like, Yeah, I know. I was proud of it. But I'm feeling like if I want to age gracefully without getting a facelift, I think I need to cut back on my sun.

The sun.

So more fraudulent tan.

Oh, I love that. That's me.

Yeah, but I like fraudulent tan on my face. I don't like it on my body, so I'm going to continue to lay out neck down. Face up? No.

Right. Because you wouldn't get a facelift for that area.

Right. And I don't show off my body anyways. I seriously don't even care what it looks like.

So maybe it's just the news is wide brim hats for cojers.

Yeah, but then hats make me hot. So not really. But just more mindful about my sun exposure because I'm like a sun girly.

On her face.

Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Great. Thank you for that.

Maybe I can inspire someone. And then maybe that funky mole on my back was the Lord's way of telling me.

Stay out of the sun.

Chill. Yeah.

But you're not keeping your body out of the sun anyway.

Also, I just would say the place in my back where the mole was never even sees the sun because I wear one piece. Interesting. I know. Yeah. Not to be a conspiential theorist.

Interesting. Are you ready for our fifth and final story, which is actually big news? It's just the way the conversation played out, and I let the chips fall where they may.

And This one ended up in the fifth story, but it probably deserved better treatment.

Yeah, because Kylie's on the cover of Amnesty Fair. Looking insane. Is she?

Okay. I can't be the only person who didn't know that was her, and I thought it was the girl from Bridgerton. Season 2.

Simone?

Simone Ashley. Thank you. Oh, that's funny. She looks so different, and I just want to say that spray tan is intense.

Oh, well, she also lightened her eyebrows. I thought she looks like Gabrieette and the other girl. Let me see. Emilia Gray. Emilia.

I didn't even notice she didn't have eyebrows. I was so everyone was like, Kylie, Kylie.

I'm like, who's Kylie? This is Gabrieette.

Yes. So then later on in the photoshoot, because you see the picture where there's only light on her eye. There's a spotlight. She's back to her normal skin tone.

Got it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, Oh, Kylie Jenner is who? And the comments- This one? Yeah. No, no, no, no. The comments were like, Oh, see, she's embracing her Romanian side. She ain't Romanian. Robert Kardashian. Yeah, that one. I'm like, Oh, it's Kylie. Look at her skin tone there versus the cover. It's actually an insane... I think it's a combination of the lighting and a severe spray tan.

Yeah, because look, when her eyes in the light- That, by the way, that to me looks like a different day. No, but this side of her face, that looks like Kylie. But when she's in the not sun on her, she looks- She looks darker, but she looks brown in the first one.

Like, her skin looks brown.

In the picture, the cover photo?

Yeah. Okay. I was so confused.

She looks great. I wasn't confused. Maybe I saw it Because I saw it on her... From the moment I saw it, it was like, Kylie on Vanity Fair.

No, I think I saw it on Liz woods, and she was like, This is great. I'm like, Who is it?

No, and also it says, Kylie on top.

Got it. It was very clear to me. I was like, Kylie Minoga. I literally... It Give me a full 30 seconds to figure out who this was.

For me, I was like, Kylie's on the cover of Vanity Fair. Let's look at the pictures. She looks amazing, and she's inspired by Gabrielle and Amelia.

I love that she's on the cover of Vanity Fair. She's embracing her actor era, even though I really don't want that from the Kardashian's. I think they all get... Kim is obsessed with acting, and it's like, okay. Kylie's foray into acting, I have enjoyed. I don't need more. She does talk about how she wants to do more. She's been getting sent a lot of scripts since her Gangbusters scene. She also talks that she wants to have more kids.

I won't get my hopes up too much.

Who was she interviewed by?

She was interviewed by Nate Freeman and photographed by Myrta Lass, obviously.

Myrta Alice. Myrta Alice?

Myrte.

Myrte.

Of course, by Myrte. Of course.

The girls don't leave the house unless it's Myrte.

Unless it's Myrte and his friend.

Yeah. What's the friend's name?

That he's always working with.

Collaborating with. His collaborator. Myrte. Kim is always working with Myrt and blah.

Yeah.

Who has an equally-Markus.

Myrt and Marcus? Myrt and Marcus. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah. Allison Mert and Marcus. I'm sorry.

I didn't get a chance- Chloe and Sam and Sophia and Marcus.

I didn't get a chance to read the article yet, but I'll snuggle up later with a nice mug of tea and really enjoy.

She says she's finishing up her 20s and she wants to focus on travel and business and spend time her kids. And then, she says, And of course, I want more kids.

More kids? Well, I wonder with who. With Timothée's kids. I wonder with whom.

Did you see Misty Copeland is coming for Timothée?

And she was in Marty Supreme, allegedly.

Oh, I need everyone to stop. I really need everyone to stop. This manufactured outrage. You don't give a fuck about opera. You don't give a fuck about ballet.

Misty Copeland cares about ballet. Yeah, of course.

But you knew what Timothy was trying to say. They're just obsessed with having something. They're like a dog with a bone. You don't care. Misty Copeland is allowed to be offended. I'll say that.

Yeah, but I feel like it'd be cooler if she wasn't and was just enjoyed the spotlight that it put on because I don't think he's anti, and I'm sure he actually really appreciates opera and ballet. I'm sure he's been. They're not commercially successful.

Can everyone say the same?

But I think calling out the culture for not appreciating opera and ballet is a good thing.

Yeah. Name five operas.

Phantom of the Opera.

Not even an opera.

Opera Bopera. Oh, my God. That one's really good.

Didn't you cry?

Yeah, almost. Yeah. But you know, I just won't let my emotions get the best. I'm going to go there.

You can't get dark. Yeah.

Chopra.

You've seen Chopra?

Yeah, really, it's not that serious. And this is the best thing that's ever happened to the high arts. To the movement. To the high arts.

The fine arts, yeah.

Whatever where they are. But again, this is not my fight. So if it is offensive, I agree.

Cancel, Timothy. You know, it's a good thing this magazine probably went to print a while ago, or else she would have had to speak on it. Yeah.

Oh, for sure.

This is really good. Maybe he should go on Chloe and Wonderland and speak his truth.

I just want to say- Timothy on Wonderland, when? If his next press tour doesn't include a stop on Chloe and Wonderland, he's a bad boyfriend.

No, I wonder why he didn't Like on Marty Supreme press. He was doing a lot of cool different things. The girls were all wearing the jackets. Like, he should have gone on Wonderland. Yeah. Timothy and Wonderland.

Yeah. He didn't do a podcast, did he?

No. I think he's done Jay Shetty. Do you see Lou Holmes on Jay Shetty?

Yeah.

I fucking love him. I cannot wait for this album.

I know. Any day now, right?

March 20th. He went on Jay Shetty, and he was talking about a lot of different things. He likes to get deep. But you have ever seen that viral video of him Refunding everyone in the stadium, but then continuing to put on a show.

Yeah, because the weather was bad. No, because he was sick. Yeah.

And he was like, I really can't sing as good as I want to, but I'm not going to let you guys go home. So I'll sing all the hits, but you'll all get your money back. And he told the story of that whole day and how the idea came to him, and it was deeply moving.

Yeah. He was also talking about fatherhood. Of course. His advice for new dads, which is to support new mom.

Which is to fuck off.

Fuck off and support your wife and whatever she needs.

The baby doesn't need you yet. Your wife needs you, which I loved.

Amazing advice. Yeah. Those are the fast-five stories. I feel as though you needed to know them. I did a bit of my summer house recap at the top of the show. Oh, but anything else? No. And I was realizing that the reason why the show isn't really good this season is because we don't have a central storyline. I would say the biggest storyline is Kyle and Amanda, but that's on ice right now. They're getting along. It was Amanda's birthday weekend. He bought her Cartier watch, and they flash back to all the other birthdays she's had where he totally fumbled the ball. I remember when Paige was helping him buy tickets for a trip, book a hotel on his phone to take her on a trip? I don't remember. Here, I bought you a trip. Right.

Thanks.

He got her a piece of weird art once. So anyways, he finally crushed it with the birthday present. It was actually a really fun weekend. Everyone went out for Amanda's birthday. Then the next day, they went to the Vineyard, Welfare State, and then they come home and they go swimming, and they're just lit all weekend. Sierra and West are flirting again, and they're like, Should we? Should we? Shouldn't we?

It seems that they do.

We He shouldn't.

Dumeau reported that they were seeing out together in West Village.

And didn't Dumeau also report that he's with Amanda? Dumeau? That's what people are reporting. Right. I don't think either of you- But that's been widely debunked by everyone involved.

The Sierra and West thing seems to be true.

I don't know. I would be really- I would like to think she's smarter than that. Yeah. And it just doesn't do for me what- And I believe that he likes her. Not even that he can't articulate his feelings. He He won't even say, I like you. I'm sorry. I'm gravitating towards you. He'll be like, I feel like I don't know how to talk to you.

I actually still have this thesis on TikTok about Cierra and how Jessie and West act around her and why she should really stop dating men from the show is because they really lack the emotional intelligence to realize they just are infatuated with her. She's so beautiful. They want to experience her, but they don't want to know her. They're stuck in attraction mode, and they don't bother digging deeper and getting to know her. That's why when Jessie was like, Can I make out with you? Or whatever. It's just the obsession with experiencing her versus knowing and loving and understanding her.

Well, yes. And that's what she said. That's how she feels like everybody wants to experience her. But they are really good friends. Her and Jessie are really good friends. I feel like he does know her, which is why it's like you're obviously attracted to her. You obviously like her because you spend all day just trying to get to her room to chit chat. So that's a relationship. So that's what she's saying. It's like, if those two things are connecting, why aren't you asking me out on a date? And it's because they are immature and they date and move without intention, and they don't articulate. They're so scared of saying anything that's remotely a commitment because they don't want to be committed. So they don't say anything except for fits and starts of like, I think I want to talk to you. Take it further. No, not... That would be amazing if they said take it further. But Wes is stumbling over his words about just talking to her. And it's like, why don't you decide what you want and then go after it? Period. And not be afraid if it goes well or it doesn't.

That's therein lies the issue. So we have no Lindsay. Carl wasn't even there this weekend, but there's some drama brewing. And I think this is what the fight between Carl and Kyle becomes about because at some point, Kyle curses him out this season. Carl invested money into Loverboy, and Kyle did not invest money into Softbar. Jessie invested money into Softbar. That's so sweet. Yeah, it is really nice. It was open to investors. He also crowdfunded online. I remember. But Kyle did not put money in, which would have been a nice thing to do. Carl put 15K into Loverboy, so Kyle could have put something like that. Just done the same. Kyle said at the time Loverboy is in the worst financial position they've ever been in, and he had just put $500,000 into Loverboy to cover payroll, so he didn't have to lay people off.

I believe that Kyle didn't invest because he doesn't have the funds to do it.

Agreed. But then Carl was saying, Kyle's DJing, when he does You get Instagram deals.

You get cash when you're in that line of work.

He could have made enough money just to give him something just for the- Just to endorse, I believe in you. The support, the idea of support.

That's really sad. And I can't believe that actually really endears me to Jessie.

Yeah, because at least last season when he said it wasn't a great business, he wasn't moved by the business, but he wouldn't tell that to Carl's face. And everyone wanted to enable Carl to do this, even on the back end, they were like, I don't know about this. At least he enabled him and put his money where his mouth Wait, that's really sweet. Yeah. But don't say nice things about Jessie. He's a mess. I can't fucking stand him. He's such a mess.

Apparently, he was talking shit about Lexi's mom and a meet and greet night. Got back to Lexie. Lexie made a TikTok. My mama don't like you and she likes everyone.

I seriously, I'm so mad. I can't even go down that path.

Bring her back. That would really shake shit up. I don't think she would ever, but bring her back. Do it. I dare you.

Yeah. So everyone's just, you know. There's not a real serious storyline. And that's why I think it's not a great season. And maybe it will ramp up towards the end with Kyle and Amanda, and that will make in the city very interesting. But right now, there's just really nothing going on. So that's that on that.

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