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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.

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It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts.

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It's your favorite show, the fast 5 things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.

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I sound amazing.

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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having a great day. Great day.

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Happy Thursday, fam.

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Speaking of great girls—

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oh, it's me.

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Speaking of great—

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speaking of greatness, I have that sweater. Avara.

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Is this nice to have a nice sweater?

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You know, I have two of these because I— so do I, from Avara. I didn't know that.

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What do you think, you're the only one who got gifting from our sponsor?

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No, but like, I didn't know that you wear the sweater. Like, I love this sweater. You know, it's so interesting. I actually wear that sweater all the time on the Toast, but I guess you're not like noticing me, or I just see it like I see a white collar sweater and I don't realize like it's the exact same one that we're that simpatico.

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We Oh my God, I have to yell at you for something.

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What'd I do?

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So we took a little date trip yesterday, you, Ben, and I for a little secret project. We had a meeting. Mm-hmm. And so of course we had like a 30-minute drive to the meeting. So before the meeting we had to get snacks and we got a bunch of stuff like turkey sandwiches, uh, croissant, some other stuff, and we ate it all. You were eating it in the backseat.

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Okay.

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And we ate it all and we like left it in the bag, right?

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Yours.

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There was a key. She, no, we left like all the garbage. It was like a big bag with all the stuff and like the garbage. Okay.

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But like not my garbage cuz I brought mine into the meeting and then Ben— not her garbage.

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Garbage. What about the quiche? But you were, you were sitting in the back seat and you left the bag of garbage. I got into the car this morning with a bag that had been left overnight in the heat with quiche, tuna sandwiches of your garbage in your car. It was our lunch and you were sitting in the back seat where the garbage was.

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You guys gave me a tuna sandwich when we were leaving the car.

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Like, it is on you to bring the garbage back.

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I didn't even know that was a gar— I didn't know there was anything in there.

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Sure.

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You guys went shopping. There was like market goods in there.

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Yes. That was different. That was a different bag.

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Be like, less my problem. 100%.

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We procure the food. And you left the tuna in my car overnight.

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No, there was no tuna. Ben ate the other half of my sandwich.

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Oh, the garbage. Okay, you know what?

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Garbage?

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There was a—

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it's right there.

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I brought it. There was a big thing of garbage.

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I had no garbage.

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All of our food.

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Your food.

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I don't work for you.

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Our food.

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No, we got the food. It was our food.

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You and Ben got the food. I wasn't with you.

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We got food for all of us.

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And you gave me my sandwich and I handled my sandwich.

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We also got you a quiche.

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You gave me my sandwich and I handled my sandwich.

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It was a group thing. Like, if you want to be now independent, like out on your own— it was not a group thing. We all got lunch from the same place.

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And I have to throw away your garbage?

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Our garbage!

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My garbage wasn't in there.

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You were in the back with the garbage and you left it in the back.

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Your garbage that I didn't even know was garbage because you had like cans of tuna in there that like you bought from the market.

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No, we didn't. No, we didn't. That was a different bag.

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I didn't go through the bags while I was sitting back there.

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Well, when you were leaving the car, like you take all the trash.

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I didn't know it was trash. You guys went marketing.

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Okay, that was a different bag.

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I know you want to blame this on me, but you just have to concede it's not. I handled my business.

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But like, it's not your business when we all had lunch together. Like, it's our stuff.

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We had lunch together.

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We went to St. Ambrose Market.

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Oh no, without me. You guys went without me.

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We bought lunch for all of us while you were shopping. We all bought lunch from the same place. We all ate it together. Like, it's lunch.

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We didn't eat.

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It's group lunch.

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I ate mine in the meeting.

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Well, she brought the other half for sandwiches.

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She brought the other half for sandwiches.

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It was a group lunch.

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My lunch was like—

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You can't remove yourself from the lunch.

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I handled my lunch.

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You cannot remove yourself from the lunch. It was a group lunch.

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I know you want someone to blame.

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No, I don't want—

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that was—

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I have someone to blame.

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And unfortunately, I guess you can't blame Ben because he was driving.

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Correct. It's you.

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It's you.

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No, no, it's you, sweetie. It's you.

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It literally couldn't be less me.

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You were in the back seat.

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It couldn't be less me.

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100% you. 100%.

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I don't know what's in those bags that you guys threw in the back. It's your car.

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We were all eating lunch.

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I ate my lunch alone.

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Stop removing your lunch from the group lunch.

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I ate my lunch alone.

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It was a group lunch. It was one receipt. Like, we all bought lunch together and we all like ate it together.

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We did not.

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So my car smelled like food this morning. That's what I've been up to.

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Well, I'm sorry that that happened to you because you didn't throw out your garbage.

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Through your fault. Yeah, it's okay, don't worry about it.

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It's not my fault.

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Don't worry about it, don't worry about it.

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It's not my fault. I'm not going to wear that.

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No, it's okay.

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Don't— I'm not going to wear that.

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Don't worry about it, don't worry about it.

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You should be worried about not knowing how to accept responsibility.

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Not worried. I'm not worried. Ben did buy like literally like canned sardines. We went to like, um, It's like a, like a, a market. Like, I keep calling it St. Ambrose. What is it? Like, um, nowhere you went because I wasn't there. It's, um, yeah, no, we got lunch for you while like you were shopping. You're welcome, first of all.

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No, I know, but I don't know where you went. But we were talking.

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Yes, yes, thank you. You do know where we went. Okay, Bilbo K. And like, so we, we bought all the food and then like I'm leaving, like we're done, and Ben's like, wait, I have to go back in. I'm like, what? And he leaves me in the hot sweaty car. First of all, I'm dying like eating a croissant. He comes out with the biggest shopping bag of like They should make a store called Smelly Disgusting Foods, and like Ben would be the CEO of it. He bought canned sardines, canned tuna, uh, $40 mustard. Like it was one of those specialty food stores.

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And then there was like a jar— what was in that jar? Artichokes? No, it looked like a jar of artichokes.

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I think it was sardines. Oh no, I guess sardines are like canned.

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Yeah, no, it was— it looked like a jar of like, you know, something.

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It was like all the most disgusting food in the world sold in one store. And they didn't even realize when they— like when Ben walked in that they met his match.

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Did he at least bring that into the house?

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Of course.

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Oh, okay. What's he gonna make with it?

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I don't even know what it is.

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You're saying he went into the back, brought—

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that wasn't in the back. That's what I'm saying. Yes, it was.

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I was sitting next to that.

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Remember I said it was a brown bag and I was looking for a white bag?

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I saw a bag of food. I was looking for a sweet treat.

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The brown bag was in the front. The white bag was in the back. And the white bag was huge, like full of garbage.

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I never saw a white bag. I never even saw— I saw two brown bags.

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You need to be a little bit more aware. Aware of the garbage in your surroundings. Like, who's around?

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Aware of the garbage in your car?

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Huge white bag.

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You're telling me Ben went into the back seat, got the things that he brought from the market?

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The market bag was up in the front with me.

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No, no, no, it wasn't, because remember I got into the back seat and I said, is there a sweet treat in here? I'm like, oh no, I don't want like yellow belly tuna.

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The brown bag, I believe I brought it in, like it was with my purse in the front seat.

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Then what was it? What was the food in the back?

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Garbage.

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No, no, no, but I saw the cans of tuna. Remember I said— no, I was like, what's this yellow belly tuna? He got like belly tuna. And I saw the cans of artichokes.

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The cans of artichokes made its way.

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So someone brought those in and willfully ignored the other bags. I rest my case.

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Backseat responsibility. Anyways, today's episode is gonna be like, you know, quick and easy.

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Okay.

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I don't have a lot to add. Didn't really do much yesterday. Didn't play Maj. Was like being a businesswoman. We had a photo shoot, which was like devastating, obviously.

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Well, we did a lot yesterday. No, we had a photo shoot. We took a meeting. We got a contentious lunch apparently, even though I loved it.

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It wasn't contentious.

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I loved my sandwich. I split it with Ben. I brought it to the meeting. Everyone was laughing.

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Jackie like walked into a meeting with a tuna sandwich, like, like not even in her purse, like holding it.

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Like, I know because I, well, because you gave it to me in the car, but I could not eat in the backseat of a car. So I, and this sandwich looked amazing. So I brought it in and you know, I could have used a chip with my meal. And thankfully they had like a little, when we walked into the meeting, they had a little basket of snacks. So I was able to pair my sandwich with a plantain chip.

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And then also when we walked into the meeting, I sat down in my chair and I didn't realize that the chair had wheels. And I just sort of like rolled backwards a little bit and took down into a plant, like a big potted plant.

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Yeah, it was huge.

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And the potted plant like literally fell over onto the ground. Um, it was deeply humiliating. Like just walking in, I just, I kept think like laughing to myself thinking about what we looked like as a group.

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Like walking in with our sandwich and stealing the free snack. All of us sitting down, not even hi, just like, oh, you have chips. Good. I was looking for a chip. Then Claudia takes out the furniture.

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Humiliating.

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Like, we, we don't even like say hi, we just like bumble in.

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Yeah, seriously funny stuff.

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Really, really funny.

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Um, but then we also had a photo shoot yesterday, which like was upsetting.

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Oh, it, it's okay. Like, it's so hard. I know.

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Like, I feel like, try being an influencer for a day. Like, having to like have all these body image issues and then like consistently be like photographed, paparazzi. Like, it's exhausting. I told Jackie, like, next time we launch merch, like, We're generating AI images of us in the merch. Like, I can't take it anymore.

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No, I wanna Photoshop these pictures so hard that like we go viral for how hard we did it.

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For how hard we did it.

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Obvious Photoshop job.

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Let's do it.

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I think that we will. No, the goal was to get like one suitable photo.

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Of each item. Doesn't matter if it's you or me. Yeah.

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Yeah. Just one. And I think we achieved that.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And it's like, that's what we have to do as business women. But like, it's exhausting.

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It is exhausting. It's not just like body image issues, which like we all have.

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Mm-hmm.

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It's like childbearing. Of course.

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You know what I mean?

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It's like We're trying to do these major things and then we also have to do a photo shoot. Like, seriously, stop.

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No, it's, it's not our fault.

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No. So like maybe just the merch photoshoots are on hold.

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Like, why don't you guys just like give grace in the comments? Okay.

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Yeah. No, the, the pictures are gonna be amazing, but it was the process of getting there.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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And like, I wonder if regular models, regular, I mean real models, like do they sweat? Like I feel like anytime I'm on set of a photo shoot, like changing clothes, like running around, like I'm always getting like so hot and like sweaty.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I just can't really imagine like real models getting sweaty cuz they're like, they're so skinny.

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Like I think they move at a so slower pace. I feel like shoots usually take all day. Credit to us, we did our shoot in under an hour. Like, we shot all of our items in under an hour. Most people, you know, they like to dilly-dally, extend the day. They're paid by the hour.

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We are not hourly. No, we are not hourly.

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We're salaried.

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I love that.

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No, no, that's like the opposite of that.

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No, I know, but it rhymes.

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Yeah, we're salaried. So we— so we moved swiftly. I love being salaried.

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Like, I just think that like salaries are amazing. I hope everybody gets the salary that they want. I'm sending salary dust to everyone here today.

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Yeah, just love—

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like, when I see my salary come in, I'm like, yes! Yeah, don't you find—

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more salaries!

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Yes, more salaries in 2026! Salary, like, always puts a smile on my face. Yeah, like, look at us, we're like, we're giddy. Like, salary, salary, salary, salary, salary. Um, not to be confused with celery, which does not put a smile on my face.

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No, never fine.

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It's not.

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Celery's fine.

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It's not.

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It's a nice little crunch.

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What did you call it? What is it? Celery and carrots? The French word?

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Mise en place?

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No.

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Micro-po?

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What is it?

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Micro-po.

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Like the aromatics, like—

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Yeah, when you do that in the pot, that's micro-po.

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What's— that doesn't sound familiar, but you know what I'm talking about.

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Yeah, no, I think it's micro-pox. Like they're—

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Micro-pox?

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Like M-I-C-R-E-P-O-I-X.

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Very Le Cordon Bleu.

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Mise en place is when you prep your ingredients ahead of cooking in little bowls like you're on a cooking show.

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That's so Rachel Riley.

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It's so important to mise en place.

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Mise en place has a place.

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Like, if you mise en place early in the day and then like you cook at dinner time, it's a breeze.

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Absolutely.

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Life's a breeze.

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Life's a breeze when you have a salary.

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Yeah, but then you have to have a photo shoot.

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Did you feel like there's like a weird vibe in the air?

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It's very hot in here. Oh yeah, raining.

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Do you remember when, um, we were in the Hamptons two summers ago and we were like acting so crazy so we thought the house had mold?

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That house 100% had mold. In retrospect, you actually can't convince me otherwise. I agree. I—

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we did buy an at-home mold test, but like it takes weeks.

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We didn't do it, but it 100% had—

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but it was affecting our state of mind. Yeah, I feel a little moldy today.

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That's what mold does. And I do feel like kids were getting sick.

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Totally.

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We were only there for a month.

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That's enough to leave a lasting impact.

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No, it's just— it's hot in here. It's raining outside.

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Oh yeah, what's up?

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It's like overcast.

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What's that about?

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I don't know, but it was hard because it was like, I need my sunglasses on, but now it's like really dark.

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So like the, the sunglasses in like the rain, you know, when it's like gray out and it's like so bright, but there's no sun to be had. What is that?

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And then like I put my sunglasses on, I'm like, okay, well I'm driving in the dark now. Yeah.

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Right.

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Safe. But then I take it off and I'm like, well, I'm ruining my Botox by squinting so hard.

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So true. And so, and when you have photo shoots, like you can't be doing that.

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And then I also like struggle with like how strong to have my windshields go. Do you change them all the time?

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When I, but yes, but when I was driving here today, it wasn't actively raining, so I didn't have them on.

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Oh, okay. Cuz I'm looking at other people, I'm like, You guys don't even have your windshields going. I have mine at a 4.

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I think it's like a flex to like have it on a very low or a zero, being like, I can see, like rain is whatever. Hey, I can't see. I just, I hate that shit. Even Ben, I'm like, can you turn the windshield wipers on? I think it's like a very guy thing to be like, windshield wipers, like whatever. I can see.

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No, when it's like when I'm driving, I turn them up to a 4 cuz obviously the rain comes down harder, but then I'm at the stoplight and it's actually like not raining, so I turn them off. I literally am changing my windshield volume every 2 minutes.

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I think that's like a girl thing. You think? I think it's a gendered issue.

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I think I'm just an overthinker.

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No, no, I'm telling you, like, it's a girl thing.

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Maybe if I were distracted, I wouldn't be noticing, like, my windshield's going and there's no rain. Like, I would just not notice.

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I, I hear it. Like, when the windshields are going and there's no rain, it's like—

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and then, like, if you focus on them too hard, I'm like, it is a— turn this racket down.

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It's vertigo.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So that's a struggle.

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Yeah.

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But I made it here.

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Thank God.

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It, it did stop raining along the way, which I was thankful for. Like, the rain— driving in the rain less very dangerous, less than, like, it's just not, it's not fun.

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Um, what are stories like today?

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You know what, just a lot of topics that we've been covering, some updates, developing news. Yeah, developing, I would say. I think people will be pleased. It's the hot topics.

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Amen.

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I would say, like, the things that people want to hear about. But who knows, you guys always complain about everything, like too much Summer House.

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There's no such thing.

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What's Copper's Bell Burden? Like, what's Copper's Bell Burden? Educate yourself.

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What's Copper's Bell Burden? Are you even listening to anything we say?

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No, like, they don't care about the book or anything, but like—

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Oh, I like how it's like, before I read the book, everyone loves it. Claudia, you need to read it. Then I read it, everybody's like, can we stop talking about Copper's Bell Burden? I can't fucking win with you guys. Like, seriously, you're insane.

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We try to do like a different story, like literate, not something like so fucking mindless. Brain rot.

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And we get in trouble.

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But I had fun.

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1,000%. And like, we will always have Copper's Bell Burden. Yeah. Can you say the same?

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No. And like, we're just trying to like switch it up sometimes. No.

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And we're actually actively trying to like broaden our horizons, like just become better, more well-rounded individuals.

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Yeah.

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No, get on board.

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We, it's good for the show.

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I have to tell you something. I don't know if you know about this, but like people are freaking out. So Keke Palmer is like, what?

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Sean Evans.

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Oh, sorry. Oh my God. I didn't know if like that had like left TikTok yet.

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I'm, um, I'm right on top of that, Rose.

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Yes. Okay. Yeah.

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00:18:30

Our first story: Wes Wilson is allegedly not returning to Summer House.

00:18:34

What?

00:18:34

So insiders are saying that he has not been asked back for next season of Summer House after Sierra reportedly made it clear that she would only return if he didn't. Slay. And producers ultimately chose Sierra over Wes, allegedly.

00:18:48

Oh my God, okay, I didn't know like we were making casting decisions yet, so I wasn't even thinking about this.

00:18:51

I feel like we're not.

00:18:52

I just want to say, if this is true, let's, let's operate under the assumption that it's true. This is such a slay on Sierra's behalf, because I'm sure part of Sierra didn't even want to return and doesn't need to. But the fact that she has the power to take the one thing that he cares about most in this world away, which like is his fame, and she decided to do it, like, I love that.

00:19:07

Okay, but also there's like a spin-off show happening, um, that's filming another like Summer House, some Ozarks, Ozarks, and it's West, right?

00:19:16

It's Midwestern.

00:19:17

Yeah, it's West's Friends, and he's gonna be on that a little bit.

00:19:20

It.

00:19:20

So like, he sort of has his next job. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, I don't think she can like stop him from being famous. I'm shocked that she wants to go back. Like, what's there for her anymore except to like mess with West? But like, are we still messing with West?

00:19:32

No, because that defeats the whole purpose. Like, this person has made it clear time and time again how little he cares or respects you, but you're gonna still spend so much of your time and your career—

00:19:39

you're gonna give your whole summer to this show just to stick it to him?

00:19:42

I hope not. Or she like likes the show and it's like all good. I don't think she's like You know, like we were talking about, like the Ariana Maddix pipeline, where it's like, I think that she's getting a lot of opportunities, but not like retirement stuff. Like when Ariana was on that road, it was so clear, like, she has max one season left. Like, it was just not— I feel like Sierra's like still very much operating at this high level within the Bravo universe. I don't feel like she's exceeded it yet. So I don't think she's at a place yet where she can't, you know, can successfully turn it down and like has a million opportunities. She definitely has like a lot going on.

00:20:11

I think after Dancing with the Stars, like, things might change. Like, it hasn't really all started, started yet, um, and I think that will really huge for her. But I agree, no, being on the show is never— sometimes you can like leave and it gives you time back and you can do more, but it's never going to really hold you back. Like, it's just, it's summer and it's prime time.

00:20:29

Like, it's just not even— it's not even the summer, it's the weekend.

00:20:31

It's the weekends of the summer. You're on a major television show, like, great.

00:20:34

Yeah, it's true. It's like a low lift.

00:20:36

Yeah, it's like, it's never going to be a bad thing to stay on.

00:20:39

And I do feel like the more senior you are, like, you do get away— like, Lindsay Hubbard barely shows up like for the last couple of seasons. Like, I do think you get a little bit more runway and like flexibility in your schedule. Amanda and Kyle were always like missing weekends to like go to and stuff.

00:20:50

And then do you think in terms of like plot line, having Sierra in the house over Wes and Amanda is more interesting?

00:20:57

No, it's more just like— and I'm more— and I'm all for justice. So it's like, yes, justice means Sierra gets the house. But like, in terms of shit I want to watch, like, I want to see those two lunatics. Like, they're insane. They're crazy people and they don't give a fuck.

00:21:12

Like, they're crazy people. Also, people really were shocked that like we're actually believing that they didn't sleep together until after the statement.

00:21:18

I just would be hard-pressed to believe that they're still lying. Because that would mean you're some of the dumbest people on the planet. Like, dumber than—

00:21:25

I know, and I've already realized, like, you're so dumb. You're extra dumb. You're incredibly dumb. But are you—

00:21:30

before we sat down here, I was watching a clip of Wes on his podcast, and Sophie, his co-host, was like, let's talk about Jesse. Like, do you regret lying to Jesse? And Wes was like, I regret the lying of the— like, the part of this that I regret the most is the lying, mostly because I have no credibility now. Like, no one's ever gonna believe anything I say when, like, I literally have a track record of lying to the faces of people that I love and trust most in this world. So, like, yeah, I don't know why we would believe him, but I would be shocked if they're still lying. That's so dumb.

00:21:56

I know. And this is what I'm always trying to say is like, don't lie because then when you need people to believe you, they won't. And also like, don't lie cuz it's like morally and ethically wrong, but it's, it's for the next time, you know, it's for when you need to be believed. Like he has zero credibility. Why would we believe anything that he says? So yeah, I don't know if I'm naive or I just like actually can't believe that someone would be so like stupid and lie. Everything is online. People have photos, videos of everything, like true text messages, receipts, like If they are still lying, I would be shocked.

00:22:28

Yeah, I would too. So I, I'm gonna believe, and they're also just, everything they're doing is weird. So like, yeah, it would be weird that they didn't have sex until 2 weeks out. They're like, they're just freaks.

00:22:35

Agreed. But also the, the lie that they're telling that they didn't sleep together till after the statement doesn't make their situation any better. It really doesn't.

00:22:41

It's just like an, it actually makes it worse because they blew up their whole lives for someone that they've never actually like been intimate with. And like, you don't know if you really like, like you did all that, took all that risk for what?

00:22:51

But I guess they're saying like, we are going to be doing this. 'Sorry, but we're going to do it.' Okay, not like we've been doing it, and— but it's a bit of both. I don't think the lie— people have no reason to believe the lie that they're telling doesn't absolve them of anything. I don't feel any sort of way that they slept together after the statement versus before. Like, that doesn't move the needle for me at all. So if that's like the big lie, it's a waste of their breath.

00:23:14

Agreed. But they're so obsessed with the timeline.

00:23:16

Like, maybe I thought they were so obsessed with the timeline because they feel like the timeline vindicates them from like not having had an official affair. Yes. And it doesn't— like, I under— even if timeline is as they say it is, it doesn't vindicate them from anything. They've been falling in love for months.

00:23:30

And so Wes being off the show leaves us with Amanda, or no?

00:23:36

I would think no. You think Amanda's gonna go into the Lion's Den without Wes, right? No. And if I were Sierra, I would have said without Wes and Amanda.

00:23:47

Yeah, but this is all just put them both out of rumors.

00:23:51

Yes, this is rumors and nastiness. Exactly.

00:23:57

Um, it's weird, like, Wes has this podcast. I was just watching a clip where it's like we're hearing from the source. It has 3 likes. Like, it's like, it's not making an impact. I don't know why. He's this like random sports podcast where he goes and talks about the Summer House drama. Like, I don't get it.

00:24:10

I feel bad for Sophie Cunningham, his co-host.

00:24:12

I mean, I don't, because I feel like if their show has 3 listeners now, it would have had 1 before.

00:24:16

So like, no, but it's like she threw in with this guy who just like wound up being the worst person to—

00:24:21

Yeah, but let's, let's say you're starting a podcast with like someone you to kind of know. And like the week before you launch your podcast, like he's involved in literally like the biggest pop culture scandal. People are racing to podcasts for their takes and, you know, interviews, and you've got the guy.

00:24:34

Yeah, it's kind of major, I guess. But I don't know, I just feel like it's a little beneath her.

00:24:39

And she's like, I just came here to talk about sports. Yeah, like, here I'm asking you about Jesse Solomon.

00:24:43

Jesse Solomon, protect Jesse Solomon.

00:24:47

Truly, after he apologizes to Lexi Yeah, and to us. No, I don't need it.

00:24:52

No, I need— I need an apology. Like, that we were so gaslit into, like, like everyone saying that we were wrong about our take.

00:24:59

We took so much heat for Lexi. Like, it's insane.

00:25:02

I would do it again and again. I don't know how people watch that and our team house and can sleep at night. And their team house. And it's the whole house that did it to her.

00:25:10

Everyone. Amanda. Um, everyone.

00:25:12

Sierra.

00:25:14

All— everyone.

00:25:14

Wes. The boys. Are you moving too fast? Shut up.

00:25:17

Seriously, the whole house did it to her. That's true.

00:25:21

And we— not us, not us. Also, Kyle Cook is responding to Threads about theories about Amanda and West, saying that he believes that West hitched his wagon to Amanda after their divorce. So on Threads, there was like—

00:25:34

so much is happening on there.

00:25:35

I know, I'm never downloading it, but I hope everyone's having fun over there. It looks interesting. There's a couple—

00:25:39

it does.

00:25:40

Yeah. But anyway, someone on Threads was like, here's my theory about like what happened and what Wilson was doing. He saw that Amanda was like having a summer where she was probably going to emerge I want to see Ariana Maddix victim. Like, everybody loves her because she's going to be like the scorned woman rising from the ashes. And so like, he hitched his wagon to that person, got really close with her, and then sort of like fell into this situation. But it was all born of the fact that he was trying to like capitalize on what she was going to be doing.

00:26:08

I love—

00:26:09

and then Kyle responded, and Lindsay responded. Lindsay responded like, nailed it. And Kyle responded, of all the theories, this is what I believe. Just looked back and did a rewatch of my street interview on April 1st. I discussed this very concept and refer to him trying to be a knight in shining armor and saying that— and saying what women want to hear in part 3 of Adam Glenn's videos on TikTok. He hitched his wagon to Amanda, and as someone referred to it on Reddit, he white-knighted too far.

00:26:35

Okay, not Kyle reading Reddit. He needs to calm down. So I like the theory, like, in the base of the theory just being like, Wes is this like desperate, thirsty loser, like, who will do anything to be famous. I do think the theory gives him like a little too much credit in terms of like being that strategic. Like, I don't think he's that smart. But I do like— not enough people are talking about how, like, why this Wes thing is so crazy for a million reasons is because outside of Wes and his, like, you know, summer house drama, he's like always on the internet being like a woman's advocate. I don't know if you've seen that. And it's like, it's always those guys who are like the worst. Kind of like Justin Maldoni, you know, like, don't even start. Sorry. But it's always like the feminists that are like, like literally beating women, like metaphorically. That's also what makes the situation so crazy. And I feel like Kyle kind of said that in like a backwards way. I don't know if he meant to, but I don't— I don't like this theory. I just want to say yes.

00:27:23

No, but I could see— I don't know how they got to the point of like falling in love and had an affair, but I could see over the summer where he was like, everyone's going to like love and root— let me get in good with her, like let me support the person that everyone's going to love. I feel like people do that in general. If you see someone is in an argument, you support the side that's right because you want to be on the right side. But I do— I could see it having been like a little strategic of like, I'm gonna support like this victimized woman. Yeah, yeah. Um, and throughout the season we never got to see it through that lens because now we see it through this lens because like in the middle of the summer we started hating them. Um, but if we had seen when Kyle says to Amanda, fuck you, and then Wes brings his chair and there's our bonus, the way the internet would've loved that.

00:28:02

It's true.

00:28:02

It's true. Love that. So he was, whether it was intentional or not, like was playing into that, playing into that. And he was, would've been onto something if he hadn't so fucked it up.

00:28:13

Yeah, it's true.

00:28:13

Her too. I will never, get over the generational fumble. I will never— because, see, I mean, Amanda was supposed to be the, the Ariana of this season. Yeah. And now it had started, and now she's the Sandoval.

00:28:28

It's insane. The fall from grace.

00:28:31

No, it's insane.

00:28:32

It is.

00:28:33

And like, do you feel like—

00:28:34

you would never catch me being so stupid.

00:28:36

Are your feelings for West really stronger than a couple million dollars?

00:28:40

Not even a couple million like $10 million, maybe more.

00:28:43

Are they stronger than that? They better be.

00:28:45

You two have to be married.

00:28:46

They have to be.

00:28:46

That's the only way for this to have ended up okay is we come back in 5 years and you guys are still together. We come back in 10 years, you guys are still together.

00:28:53

Net-net, I would say like that's the financial loss here.

00:28:56

$10 million.

00:28:57

$10 million over time. I agree. Not even over time, the brand deals that she was doing that she's no longer doing, the ones she would have done as the season continued to get worse and worse for Kyle.

00:29:05

And she's—

00:29:05

and then the reunion when she has her like moment throughout throughout the summer, everything, like throughout like this next summer, like, and then plus probably her Dancing with the Stars, probably her Traders. Oh, and is she gonna be on the show anymore? That paycheck ends, right?

00:29:19

Right. No, it's a—

00:29:22

she should go on Traders because we never know what she means. So true.

00:29:26

Even at the reunion, she's just so stoic.

00:29:29

Well, people are saying she looks medicated, and I would agree. Yeah, well, she is medicated. She has shared that, but she looks numbed.

00:29:35

Yeah, like beta blocker whatever those are. I mean, I wouldn't— one thing about me, I have no idea what a beta blocker is.

00:29:40

I don't know what it is either. I always thought it would be like a Xanax, but it's not. No, no.

00:29:45

Khloé Kardashian, um, like was talking about it once, and it's just like, like all of your cells, like it's just like, it's like a neutralizer.

00:29:54

Could you ask chat what it is? Like, I would like—

00:29:56

I like not knowing, but yeah.

00:29:57

But now that we're like servicing it, I don't know what it is. I just want to know.

00:30:01

What's a beta blocker? Question mark. What does it make you feel?

00:30:04

Do we need them?

00:30:06

A beta blocker, it's a type of medication that slows down the effects of adrenaline on your body, so it blocks beta receptors mainly in the heart and blood vessels.

00:30:14

Oh, so I guess it's like you're having a performance, it's good to take like before performance.

00:30:20

So some people describe it as your brain being anxious but your body not being able to rev up. Possible side effects include fatigue, dizziness, cold hands and feet, exercise intolerance. Oh, I take beta blockers. They're not sedatives and they're not intoxicating. Most people still feel mentally clear. Okay, they can be dangerous for people with asthma, so you shouldn't take it if you have asthma.

00:30:39

So they block your beta?

00:30:40

Exactly.

00:30:41

Okay, so yeah, she's probably on like a bunch— like, she's definitely numbed. Yeah. And people are saying like her pupils are dilated. I don't know about all that.

00:30:48

Me neither.

00:30:49

But she's already a medicated individual, and I'm sure she loaded up for this huge life event.

00:30:55

Yeah, that's a huge source of stress, anxiety, because a person who's not medicated would need to be medicated.

00:31:00

Like, and so a person who is medicated would probably just amp it up. Like, this is probably like the stressful, anxiety-inducing thing a human being can experience in this day and age. Yeah, like sitting there for the roast, and it's, it's literally 13 hours.

00:31:14

Oh my God, miserable. And like in a full tight dress.

00:31:16

So like when people are saying they're not saying anything, like what, like what do you want them to do?

00:31:20

I know, they're probably just like butt clenching waiting for it to end.

00:31:23

Genuinely just took meds. They're sitting there like, like the cardboard cutouts.

00:31:27

No, they do, you know, when like, when like somebody smokes pot and they like get like anxious so they sit there in silence. Like that's what they both look like.

00:31:33

No, they, their job was to show up. That's, and they, it's The bare minimum. It—

00:31:38

so, um, TBD if he doesn't return. Although I will say, from like an entertainment perspective, like, not loving that.

00:31:45

Agreed. And I could see like Sierra not needing the show anymore.

00:31:49

Yeah.

00:31:49

So especially Dancing with the Stars would be in the fall, that she'll be back, back up and running. Yeah. Our next story, a little more reality TV news. Laiusa— Love Island USA is asking fans to keep it kind on social media ahead of the season 8 premiere.

00:32:04

So love about me is I hate the Love Island production team. Like, I think that they're all like the worst people ever. Like, this happened last season. First of all, I don't even know what they're referring to. Like, did something happen, or this is like a precursor?

00:32:15

I feel like it's a precursor because like last season things got out of hand. Who did they get out of hand towards? I don't like remember, but they had to— they had to—

00:32:24

Huda.

00:32:25

Was it that? Yeah. But that's— for me it's like, well, you cast a crazy person to go on the show.

00:32:30

Not only did you cast a crazy person, you saved her time and time again. There's like 3 or 4 Bonfire ceremonies where you sent home lovely people. Yeah, because you wanted to keep this crazy person. So like, stop giving us crazy and like wanting us to react and then being mad at how we react.

00:32:43

Mad that we have a reaction to craziness. Yeah, yeah.

00:32:46

They also are just like so— like, they are so tuned into like their fandom, and their fandom is crazy, and they let the fandom like run the show. So I like— I love Love Island. I think that the production is like nutty. So what did they say this time, and what are they talking about?

00:32:58

I think they're just like, you know, trying to remind everyone, because people do get so activated about the show in general. I don't know if they started filming because the premiere June 2nd. So they probably have like the early episodes, and maybe like things are crazy already and we're gonna like hate someone, hate someone and want to bully them.

00:33:13

Hopefully.

00:33:14

They posted, the Villa runs on good vibes, and so does this.

00:33:17

The biggest lie ever told. The Villa runs on good vibes.

00:33:20

It runs on like crazy vibes.

00:33:21

Yeah.

00:33:22

We love seeing your reactions, opinions, and debates, but everyone deserves to feel safe and respected.

00:33:28

Like, I—

00:33:29

yeah, this is a space for fun, not negativity. Sure. Literally, sure. Like, you torture people, like, psychologically.

00:33:35

And the challenges are literally designed to humiliate people.

00:33:38

So keep it in mind, keep it positive, and remember, this is Love Island.

00:33:42

And why don't you speak that statement into a mirror?

00:33:45

It's not Love Island, it's like crazy warfare island.

00:33:48

Yeah. And like, I'm just letting you know, like, I'm not listening to that because I'm gonna engage with the content you put out in whatever way I see fit. Like, I just am. And if you don't want people to have like outsized reactions, why don't you keep the crazy people, Huda Mustafa, off the television? Fans. She's so nuts. You see, she released a song.

00:34:04

I did, I did.

00:34:05

Uh, somebody said it's lash tech music, and I seriously cracked up.

00:34:08

What is it?

00:34:08

Lash tech music.

00:34:09

What, like when you're getting your lashes done?

00:34:11

Yeah, it's like it's music that only exists, but like at the lash tech.

00:34:14

That's funny. Our spa like plays like instrumental versions of Sabrina Carpenter.

00:34:19

Oh, our nail place? Yeah, yeah, they play like really like—

00:34:23

what's that genre called? Like bossa nova?

00:34:27

I have no idea.

00:34:28

Bossa nova, like generic Bossa Nova.

00:34:31

I've never heard of that.

00:34:32

Bossa Nova? Yeah, you have. No, it's like the girl from Ipanema.

00:34:36

What the fuck are you talking about?

00:34:39

The girl?

00:34:39

Yeah, I know you mean zubi zubi.

00:34:44

What's that called? Bossa Nova. That's a genre of music.

00:34:47

It's so Lauren Postek.

00:34:49

Yes, it is. She literally— I think one time she came on the show. That's why I know the word, because I was like, what kind of music do you like? And she's like, Bossa Nova. I'm Okay, moving on.

00:34:56

You can leave.

00:34:58

Uh, it's a relaxed style of samba developed—

00:35:01

yeah, so they do like samba, sambiana grande, like our nail place.

00:35:05

Sambiana carpenter.

00:35:07

Yeah, it's like something about you, zubi zubi, me feel like a dangerous— yeah, and that's what Huda's music sounds like. Got it. If Huda Mustafa has zero haters, like, I've seriously passed away, give my best to Romeo.

00:35:21

Yeah, he'll be fine. She's all—

00:35:22

completely, she's all over my like TikTok and stuff now because she released a song. Song. Yeah, she did like an interview being like, yeah, we're releasing an album, and everybody's like, okay, it took a while.

00:35:33

Yeah, it's been a whole year.

00:35:34

Well, she was busy, um, abusing her boyfriend and his baby mama. Yeah, that's obviously very time-consuming.

00:35:39

That is. And then she had Winter Games.

00:35:41

Oh yeah, I feel like that Winter Games really came and went.

00:35:44

Yeah, who won?

00:35:45

Was it a competition?

00:35:47

I would think so if it's games. I'll find out on Podster.

00:35:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:54

So, hmm, the purple team won.

00:36:00

That's great.

00:36:02

Okay, well, La YuSa, a couple days.

00:36:05

Are you ready? I'm like, not— it's so much, it's so much scheduling, like it's so much infrastructure. But I will do my best.

00:36:14

Yeah.

00:36:15

And like, how do you think we're going to be recapping La YuSa this summer? Like every day, once a week?

00:36:19

So the way that we did it last summer when we had guest co-hosts, it would really be like every couple days when the co-host was watching. I feel like with you and I, maybe at the end of every episode we'll do a Laiusa recap if we're watching every night. Okay, it'll be really hard to wait till the end of the episode, but like, we have to because not everyone watches. And like, I want to encourage people to not watch.

00:36:38

I know, but I really enjoyed all the content last summer, and there were a couple of people being like, you guys cannot stop talking about anything but Laiusa. So this is like just your message, like, we are going to be recapping Laiusa. If you'd like to join us, like, it's— now's the time.

00:36:49

But I just want to say, like, if it is really bad— and I thought last season was pretty bad. If it's even worse than that—

00:36:55

you thought last season was really bad? I feel like, like, it was really good.

00:36:58

No, it was— and like, the production was so frustrating, like sending home Jeremiah, sending home Hannah just when she has a connection with Pep. Like, it was infuriating. Like, keeping Huda over and over again. So if it's really bad, I'm going to stop watching. Like, I'm not— like, I have a family and a full life, and like, I'm going to give my time back.

00:37:16

It is an insane amount of content to ask people to watch. What is it, 6 hours a week?

00:37:20

Week. Yeah, the episodes are like more than an hour, right? And the way that it's filmed and like it's so slow. Yeah, so like I'm just letting you know, they have like to reach— they have to reach a certain standard in order for me to watch.

00:37:33

It's important to keep your standards high.

00:37:34

Yeah, no, no, I'm just— I'm letting everyone know.

00:37:37

Next, as I get to say, putting them on notice.

00:37:39

I'm putting them on notice for sure. Are you ready for our next story?

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00:41:57

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00:41:59

Our next story: Keke Palmer romance rumors swirl with Hot Ones host Sean Evans after his crush confession. So Hot Ones host Sean Evans, who hosts Hot Ones, the show everybody loves, went on Keke Palmer's podcast, and the two of them are sparking romance rumors after the two of them flirted throughout about the episode.

00:42:18

It's a really flirty episode. First of all, I ship so fucking hard because first of all, you know that Keke Palmer is like one of the most, um, like most watched episodes of Hot Ones. She did like— before the show really took off, she like really— her episode put the show on the map and she was being so funny. So now I think she's the person who's been on the most times. It's like either 2 or 3 times. And he's just like, every time she's on, he like doesn't know what to do with her. He's like really dazzled by her and I feel like kind of shy. But he is like a little weird, so you're like, oh, maybe. But then a couple—

00:42:43

because we also thought like him and Khloé, right? Yeah.

00:42:45

No, we hoped. There was nothing there.

00:42:46

Like, I feel like a couple times, like, because he's single and he has on these eligible beautiful women, and he asks really thoughtful questions, and I think a lot of times people end up just feeling very seen by him.

00:42:55

So people were like, is there something there? But nobody ever really was talking about it. And then he went on Chicken Shop, and she was like, have you ever, um, like had a crush on any of your guests? And he was like, yes. And she was like guessing, and he was like giving clues, like, you know, we shared this guest, and she couldn't figure it out. So he was just like Keke Palmer, and we were like, oh, like, we were, we were on to something. And now she had him on her podcast where they're literally just flirting for an hour. And like, good luck watching a clip, like, you're just like big dope, like smiling ear to ear. It's so cute. Um, I think her mom was there too.

00:43:27

Yeah.

00:43:28

And there's just like a lot of really cute moments. Like, I ship so fucking hard. And we know that Keke Palmer— I don't know a lot about her dating life, but I know like her previous, um, partner who is the father of her child is like, um, the devil. So we want like a nice P-Jump.

00:43:39

Yeah.

00:43:40

Yeah, I think he's like a really, um, like a nerdy nice guy.

00:43:43

Yeah, so they are flirting on the episode. There's clearly like attraction both ways. It's established on his end, like he said he's had a crush on her. Um, he in the episode, he said that his celebrity crush growing up was, uh, Left Eye. And then Kiki said, I played Chili in the TLC story movie Close Enough. And then he said, absolutely close enough.

00:44:02

Do you think that they're dating?

00:44:03

And like, no, but like, okay, I think that say they're not dating, but what do I know? This is just how I think about it. Say they're not dating, but they— it's just always been in the background. Like, every time we see each other, it's really nice. He goes on her podcast. Okay, it's very clear we're both single, we're both interested, we're having a great time. Like, they are going on a date now. Yeah, they abs—

00:44:21

even just to like give the internet what they want, like we need to see them spotted. But I do think that there's like real potential here.

00:44:26

Of course.

00:44:27

Stop, it's seriously so cute. I love Keke Palmer more than anything in this whole world.

00:44:31

Like, no, and like Keke said, like, shout out to Mr. and Mrs. Evans, like your parents.

00:44:35

Yes.

00:44:35

And he was like, oh, I thought you were talking about Yes, I'm dead.

00:44:39

No, it was very slick, very slick. Um, I can't. I also feel like the one thing that's missing from Keke Palmer's career, like, is a relationship. I don't know who her ex was, but he wasn't like very well known. So, you know, it's just always a good way to like, you know, rise your star. And I would love this.

00:44:57

They need to go out, like, give it a shot. Let's see what happens. I don't see a reason why not.

00:45:02

Yeah, it's not like they're like co-workers, like it wouldn't, you know, ruin a friendship.

00:45:04

Yeah, like they've both been on each other's podcasts, like, so if they never could go on again, no big deal.

00:45:08

Feel seriously cute.

00:45:10

Yeah, I think they're gonna go out. I think they've already gone out before the episode. I don't know, like maybe the timing in the past just like wasn't right, like she was in that relationship, right?

00:45:21

And then she was like a new mom. But I feel like now everything's like really settled, it's time.

00:45:26

Yeah. Our next story, some slomo production news. The producer of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives confirmed in an interview to Variety that both Taylor and Dakota are welcome back to Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

00:45:41

I don't believe you.

00:45:42

He said, I've talked to Taylor and she wants to come back, and I want her to come back. He told Variety that he's hopeful she will return to filming the show. He compared her to reality star predecessors Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian. He said Taylor Frankie Paul has that thing like her two predecessors do, where she's just made for this, to share her life on camera. She does it like breathing air. She doesn't edit herself. She's really built for this type of lane. Um, he said that due to the dual restraining orders from Dakota and Taylor, production won't be able to— unable to film them interacting for the foreseeable future. Good. He said, but I'm very hopeful that we'll be shooting with both of them or either of them very soon.

00:46:19

I have no problem with Taylor returning. Like, she's problematic, but it's her show. Like, she can return to her show. I have like a really big problem with that weasel returning. Like, I won't watch.

00:46:29

And I have a problem, like, on behalf behalf of her, of course, you know, because it is her show.

00:46:33

On behalf of women. Yeah, like, as if the men of that show— like, did we not learn? Like, they ruined the show.

00:46:37

They added nothing. So it's not like we're missing anything by reducing their time. Um, but it's unfair to her to have him on. He can go build his own thing. And I agree, his own—

00:46:49

this is a show that's like really built off of her back.

00:46:51

Yeah. And like, if this is her abuser, it's not fair to— even if they don't have to film together, like like he's always in the dialog, he's always in the press. Like, he's— when they're doing, you know, shows and other girls are talking, like, just remove him from the equation, please. Agreed. I can't— especially if we want her to heal. Like, I think everybody who is a fan of the show or works on the show is rooting for her, is disappointed by her, but like wants her to heal and like be the best, be better person that she—

00:47:18

no, we have— we're not discarding her mother. Absolutely.

00:47:21

And if we are— and the production too— like, if we're really invested in like her healing, you should not put him on the show because it just sets her back. She's incapable of compartmentalizing. Yeah, that also makes her a good reality— like, yeah, we should say compartmentalize better, but also makes her a good reality star. She never thinks, should I not put this on TV? Should I not say this?

00:47:41

Yes, all of that, I agree. But it's also just like, it's ethically wrong. Like, this is a bad person. And like, what— let's normalize like not engaging with bad people. Yeah.

00:47:49

And at a certain point, the— there's no longer entertainment value. No, it's sad. It's all this tragic— no, but it's been done. Like, there's nothing that could happen between the two of them that I'm sat for. Like, I don't care.

00:48:02

Yeah, I don't need to sit down, conversation.

00:48:03

It's run its course. I don't care if they hook up again and then fall out again. Like, I'm not interested in that. I don't think anyone is. When we saw, like, where it gets to, like, I think we closed the door.

00:48:13

Yeah, agreed. But she's welcome back. It's her go.

00:48:16

Of course, that's how I feel. Actually, I'm not saying of course because I think people would say no, right? I personally think that it— she should be back if she wants to come back. Um, our fifth and final story is sort of some major news, and it's, um, part of a new segment that is now being called TPN, Toast Passion News. Okay, so it's just a subject of things we're passionate about, you or I or both are passionate about. Okay, and that is Susan Boyle's new era.

00:48:40

Okay, so you are passionate about Susan Boyle.

00:48:42

I'm obsessed with a jaw-dropping radical transformation as a new era starts for the recently reclusive star. So Susan Boyle has wiped her Instagram account and revealed new images of herself after a jaw-dropping makeover.

00:48:54

You think it was AI?

00:48:56

No.

00:48:56

Oh really?

00:48:58

I don't think so.

00:48:58

Let me see.

00:48:59

Like, so there's a couple— one of her crossing the street, I thought was AI, in a fur coat with like the very Beatles with the new hair. Like, here she just is at the microphone. Why would that be AI?

00:49:07

No, that's not AI.

00:49:09

That— there's—

00:49:09

I'm seriously cracking the fuck up.

00:49:12

So she's teasing the drama. She's teasing a new era.

00:49:15

Fuck-ass bob. She sort of looks like Anna Wintour. Yes, she has like a very blunt bob and bangs, sunglasses. She's wearing huge sunglasses and fur coat.

00:49:24

But it also says #ad, a new era starts tomorrow.

00:49:28

What?

00:49:28

Like she wiped her Instagram for an ad?

00:49:31

An ad? An advertisement?

00:49:33

For what?

00:49:34

But how can it be an ad if you don't tag the advertiser?

00:49:37

Well, I think Susan like does things in her own way. Yeah, I agree.

00:49:40

And I could see her like her finger slipping.

00:49:42

Or it's like an ad because her record laborers making her post about her new music.

00:49:45

Or like it's an ad because like she thinks it stands for amazing display. Display. One thing about Susan is that you can't—

00:50:00

you cannot put her in a box. They tried to when she stepped onto that stage. They thought she was just going to be like a sad woman.

00:50:06

Although I will say I think a lot of the appeal is her sadness and like her homely vibe. Vibe and this sort of like chic, fashion-forward, um, era for her. I don't know if people will be receptive to it. I think they like her like sort of nightgown—

00:50:18

they want to keep her down—

00:50:19

hausfrau energy.

00:50:20

I think they want to keep her down.

00:50:22

I don't know if I would say they want to keep her down. I think they would want to say like, just be who you are. This doesn't necessarily feel authentic to Susan.

00:50:29

But I think those of us who know and trust Susan, like, like, you know, she wouldn't do something inauthentic. So if this is who— what she's doing, this is what she's feeling.

00:50:38

She's literally the British Mason Ramsey, don't you find?

00:50:41

Yeah. Um, I did check her Instagram. I— she has not posted today, like, the era starts today. But she—

00:50:47

how do you know that?

00:50:48

Because yesterday she posted new era starts tomorrow.

00:50:50

Tomorrow. Oh, okay.

00:50:51

I didn't know if she said as of, you know—

00:50:53

well, she's in the UK. What time is it?

00:50:55

It's further along. So where's the new era? Where's the new era?

00:51:00

Oh no, that's got me worried. Maybe she said this isn't She had like a crisis of conscience the night before.

00:51:05

At the 11th hour.

00:51:06

Yeah.

00:51:07

Well, I'm looking forward—

00:51:08

I love TPD, by the way.

00:51:10

TPN.

00:51:11

Whatever.

00:51:11

Yeah, I love TPN.

00:51:12

Passion news. What else would fall under passion news? I guess anything having to do with Belle Burden.

00:51:18

No, but actually that is pretty like mainstream.

00:51:20

Of course.

00:51:20

People are talking about it. Anything to do with like Charlie Puth and Michaela Nogueira.

00:51:24

I disagree. That was worldwide news.

00:51:26

What was the fifth story yesterday? Neil McDonough, the guy from Desperate Housewives.

00:51:30

Neil. Desperate Housewives definitely falls into TPD. PM.

00:51:33

Yeah, so like, I think it's new segment alert. New segment alert on days when there's like— if there were a more compelling fifth story, I would—

00:51:42

more compelling than Susan Boyle's new era?

00:51:45

Personally, I have no answer for that.

00:51:47

Good.

00:51:48

Those are the past—

00:51:49

you're going to cut your hair like in solidarity with Susan?

00:51:51

You know what, I was just thinking this morning, not because of Susan, I, I was feeling like I need to cut my hair because I don't have like really the time or energy to really like style my hair right now. And do it. But no, not, not right now, but like maybe in a few months. But I think in a few months I'll have the time and energy to style my hair. But like right now I like—

00:52:08

Bob. Who remembers Jackie O Bob era? Bobby O, that was the best.

00:52:11

No, and I'm going to do a bob again one day.

00:52:14

Um, that day is today.

00:52:15

I know it's not today, but I was just like thinking like, what am I gonna do about my hair? Like, I just— what am I gonna do about it?

00:52:24

Sort of like this existential crisis where like, you know, you like realize you can make dinner every night for like the rest of your life.

00:52:29

Yeah, like I have to—

00:52:30

you have to have hair.

00:52:32

No, and forever, it's just like an extra.

00:52:34

You take your power back and, you know, buzz your head. Should we do Jackie's buzz era like Susan has her bob era? No, but I don't have a problem with my hair. Like, my hair is fine.

00:52:44

Well, I was just thinking about it. I think, you know, in a few months I'll be able to like dedicate more time. Plus it's like falling out, so I'm just like not like feeling it right now.

00:52:52

Oh yeah.

00:52:53

Like, even if I had someone come and do my hair, like, that takes time.

00:52:56

What about a pixie cut?

00:52:58

I don't feel like you're being constructive.

00:53:00

I know, I'm just throwing things out there. Like, what are your styles?

00:53:01

You're not throwing real, real options out there.

00:53:04

Okay, um, mohawk. Um, let me think, let me think.

00:53:10

It was just, it was just a thought I was having, so it's funny that you mentioned, like—

00:53:15

What about, like, pigtails? Like braids?

00:53:16

Please stop. No, okay, please stop. Now this—

00:53:18

I'm just trying to, I'm trying to get creative creative. Like, how would— how do people wear their hair besides down and up? You know, like, that's what I'm thinking.

00:53:25

How do people wear their hair besides down and up?

00:53:27

Pigtails.

00:53:27

Down is not working for me right now, and like, up's not really working either.

00:53:30

Okay, sorry, I was trying to be creative. Half up, half down?

00:53:32

I literally told you this week I don't like pigtails. Even Kelsey couldn't pull them off.

00:53:35

Oh, okay. Half up, half down? Okay, what about like one solid braid? Like, like a—

00:53:42

end the show. Like, end the show.

00:53:44

Like a French braid down the back. Please end the question.

00:53:46

Like how we would wear our hair in camp when we were playing the man. Yeah, in the play.

00:53:49

In the play.

00:53:51

Because it was an all-girls camp. So if you were playing a boy, you wore one French braid.

00:53:54

Okay, you're just kind of insufferable. Like, I'm trying to help. I've thrown out a lot of options. I'm sorry you don't like any of them because what you're looking for doesn't exist.

00:54:00

No, you're not being solution— you're not, you're not offering solutions in earnest.

00:54:07

Okay, what are other ways to wear your hair?

00:54:09

What, like, yeah, what are other ways to wear your hair?

00:54:11

A wig?

00:54:13

It's not— we're not there.

00:54:15

You're not there yet. Okay. Um, Um, okay, what about like a, like a clip-in bang?

00:54:20

Okay.

00:54:21

Thank you so much for listening to The Toast, the greatest show on Earth, where we listen to the fast 5 stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday. On YouTube, if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast on your podcasting found. So that's Spotify, TuneIn, Stitcher, Public Radio, iHeartRadio, CastBox, all the places where you listen to podcasts. Find us at Toasty 5 Star View, review, rating, and weekly day. We'll see you tomorrow.

00:54:37

Love ya, bye!

Episode description

1. West Wilson Allegedly Not Returning To "Summer House", As Insiders Call Lies (Deux Moi) (18:30), Kyle Cooke Slams West Wilson for “Hitching His Wagon” to Amanda Batula After Their Divorce (Cosmopolitan) (25:24)

2. ‘Love Island USA’ Asks Fans to “Keep It Kind” on Social Media Ahead of Season 8 Premiere (The Hollywood Reporter) (31:56)

3. Keke Palmer romance rumors swirl with ‘Hot Ones’ host Sean Evans after his crush confession (Page Six) (41:59)

4. Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota Mortensen Are Welcome Back to The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Despite Dual Restraining Orders, Says Producer (PEOPLE) (45:27)

5. Susan Boyle reveals jaw-dropping, radical transformation as 'a new era starts' for recently reclusive star (Entertainment Weekly) (48:25)

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