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The Toast
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Good morning, girlies.

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It's the toast.

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It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts.

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It's your favorite show, the fast 5 things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

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I sound amazing.

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This fucking necklace. It's the second time it broke.

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Oh man.

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Fucker. Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Monday. We are live and in living color with Jax and Kla.

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We are live in studio together. We're back together. We've been so simpatico because I came to New York this weekend to see my co-journer.

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Sure.

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And for a work obligation.

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Yeah, for sure, for sure.

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We had Dear Media by night, which we'll get into because it was so much fun. And then Claudia, you know, she didn't trust me to get home on my own.

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I don't trust— when Jackie was walking around these streets of New York, I don't know why I felt like my daughter. I'm like, do you need me to drop you off?

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Like, do you know where you're going?

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I forget. I know you lived there for a bit.

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Not only I'm from there, which is just the craziest, most incongruous fact.

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I felt worried about my sister. Like it was broad daylight, but I'm like, she's gonna get lost. She's gonna get mugged. She's gonna get jumped. She's gonna come back home with a black eye. But you survived New York City.

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I did.

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You kind of thrived in New York City.

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I did. You know, I had a really nice day. I feel like the day that I came, the weather was amazing.

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Yep.

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We were in Central Park. You had a little soiree.

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Yes. We threw like a little, little picnic. It wasn't so little and it kept getting bigger. I'm like, we'll do a little picnic. Next thing you know, there's like a balloon arch.

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It was a glicknik.

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Yeah.

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A glam picnic.

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It was a Shabbatnik, a Shabbat picnic. All of Ruby's friends came, which is like a little basketball-themed party. It was so cute.

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And all of my friends came too. So I got to see all of my friends. I was in New York for literally 24 hours. Vlog coming.

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Oh yeah.

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We vlogged the whole day.

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Yeah, we did.

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Really funny and fun vlog. We vlogged like Dear Media by Noche. It was just like really great. Um, so I was able to see almost all of my friends.

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Very productive trip.

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Very productive trip. The city was looking beautiful. The place—

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we crushed—

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the place looked great. It always does.

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We crushed our work obligation.

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We crushed our work obligation. We played mahjong. So all in all, I was like really nervous for the trip. You know, I haven't traveled in a while. I, I don't travel. I'm not a traveler.

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And like you walking around a major city by yourself, like it's worrisome.

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Yeah.

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3 bucks, 2 bags, 1 jumping. One, one mugging.

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One Jax. 3 bugs, 2 bags, one Jax.

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But you only brought one bag, which I was really impressed with.

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I mean, it was like a tiny little suitcase. Yeah. And it was a short trip. Um, but it was a great success. And now I'm back. Claudia escorted me home. Thank you so much.

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We all flew home together, which was so nice. I miss my sister. Yeah. And it's so great to be here. The place looks great. It, it always does.

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And you know what, like traveling, not traveling, like, cuz I don't wanna go down that road, like, but like Moving places.

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That's like, will make you love your place.

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No, no, no. It's just like, it's fun for us. Like going there, coming here.

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Yeah.

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Having, having multiple places coming here, going there.

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Absolutely.

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Just like renewed energy. Like we love our pen pal energy, but we love our in-studio energy.

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We do.

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So it's just like fun to switch it up.

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It's fun to switch it up. And you know what, as the great America Ferrera once said, you gotta kick it up.

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And I do feel like we have kicked it up. I also did what I said I was gonna do and I watched Real Housewives of Rhode Island.

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What episode are you up to?

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I'm in the middle of the last episode, so I feel like, oh my God, you're ahead of me.

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What episode is that?

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7.

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I feel like I'm on 6.

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Oh, I'm in Newport.

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I'm in Newport too.

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Uh, they just fought in the bedroom. Yeah. And now it's the next day, but oh, I just saw like the previews for like the mid-season trailer. Did you see the mid-season trailer?

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Oh yeah. Oh, am I all caught up?

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No. And now there's one episode that I haven't really watched.

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Oh, me neither. Okay.

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So, ah, okay.

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What do you think? Do you love it?

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So I understand like, you know, the woman who—

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that's a no.

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The woman being cheated on in real time, like is, is crazy, is major for television. Um, I wouldn't say that like I love it, but I'm, I'm into it and like I want to keep watching it. And yeah, it's not like the worst. I thought it was going to be like seriously the worst piece of garbage based on the trailer that came out.

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Yeah, agreed. My expectations were in the garbage.

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I thought it was going to be like the end of Housewives, like we've lost the plot here.

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Yeah. And the thing is, I do think it marks a shift in Housewives because even though they've slipped in recent years, it's always been this like affluent group of women. And really, this is not an affluent group.

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Not super.

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Liz has a nice house and that's it. They all are just regular women and they do well.

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But I think like the group and the history is very good. And of course we have like the, the young, the youths, the Rosie and the Kelsey. Rosie, Kelsey.

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Are you team Rosie or Kelsey?

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Kelsey.

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Oh no, I'm team Rosie.

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Kelsey.

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First of all, Kelsey is such a jealous— I'm sorry, I know I'm about to use this word and it's not nice.

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Don't say it. Don't use that word. She's not that terrible.

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No, I'm not using that word. Starts with the same letter. She's literally the definition of a concubine. Like, seriously, get a job. I hate her. Sure, she's just really pretty. Like, once you get past that, you're like, wait, well, first, you're mean. You're literally a bully. First, and her coming after Rosie for like her house and whatever, like, you literally don't have a house, first of all. Second of all, how do you know that she's lying? You need to bring proof.

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No, also, when she said that, when Rosie said that, that like, I have a house, I have a man, I have a job, and you don't, like, yeah, no, she's right for that. In general though, like when it comes to like confessionals or friendship, personality, personality, I really like Kelsey. She is also so easy on the eyes. Not that any of the women are.

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She has pretty privilege.

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But she's so pretty.

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No, you wouldn't be saying that. That scene in the dining room—

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everyone is pretty.

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No, she's prettier than everyone. She's one of the prettier Housewives of all time.

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I know. No, no, no. So it's just like really nice to watch.

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And so she— I don't want to encourage that.

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So she gets a little bit of something. No, not with me.

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Sorry. That scene at the dinner—

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someone's really wealthy, you want to watch even if they're not the most interesting. Like that gives them a little something.

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That scene at the dinner when she was like That's the first genuine thing I've ever heard come out of your mouth. Literally the definition of a backhanded compliment, being like everything you say is a lie. I'm like, that was nice. And she was like, it's mad that Rosie's not like so grateful for like shitty compliment.

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Rosie lost me. Like, I became like a Rosie op. So it's like, I didn't—

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I was a Rosie up when she first entered. I'm like, who's this toddler in tiara? Like, her outfits and her confessionals are fucking crazy. Her house is gross.

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Like, she— when they went on the railroad around the sea, uh-huh, and she gets in the car with Liz and says out of nowhere, do you like Ashley? And then Liz shares her thoughts on Ashley, and then she goes and tells Ashley Liz thinks that you aren't— like, you're not nice to her. And we said that she could be scary, and then she immediately flipped on Alicia and turned something that Alicia said into a negative. In that moment, I was like, I don't like this person. She is such— so desperate to be on TV that she's like operating like a producer ploy. And so maybe if Kelsey was fighting with someone else, I wouldn't— I would maybe— and I agree with you, like, I'm not like loving the fight, but I already wrote off Rosie in that moment. Like, when Alicia did— when Alicia saw her, she's like, you're being weird. And I I see you, I see it in your eyes. I'm like, I see it, I see it in her eyes, like so desperate to be on the show and like make shit happen. Even though things are happening, Rosie, you don't have to try so hard, like to run to one person, talk shit, run to the next.

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I imagine when all the women watch this, they're gonna be like, the fuck were you doing? Like starting shit and then telling someone else what someone else said.

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I see it so differently. First of all, I think that on the railroad, I think her and Ashley are like actual friends. So if like the head honcho was saying this about you, I actually think Ashley wasn't even mad. She was like you know, I get this a lot because I'm really quiet. Some people think I'm being mean, but I'm just shy. I'm not a bitch. I actually think that was like helpful for her friend because Ashley's not in the mix and like Rosie's trying to bring her for her and her friend to level up with the older women. And I'm sorry, I loved when she clocked Alicia. Alicia's so fucking two-faced and Alicia like couldn't handle anyone who just like blows up when they're being called out for stuff. Like, you're so wrong. Oh, she had no—

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I'm so—

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was talking shit about Liz on the beach. She did say everybody has to walk on eggshells around Liz. Sorry, she got motherfucking called out for being a snake.

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'Oh, I didn't think she was a snake.' I felt like she was saying like, 'Yeah, like Liz is head bitch in charge.' That's not what she said. 'We walk on eggshells around— like, she's a little scary.' And I feel like everything that she said and the tone in which she said it, she would have said to Liz. I don't think like anything that what she said was bad, but the way that Rosie framed it when she brought it up in front of the group was snake-like.

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I think she's doing her job. Yeah, she's like the least eligible to be on this show. She's like young and like has a house that's not finished, like 1500s. She doesn't have like an interesting background like Kelsey does. So yeah, she's earning her keep here. And in the beginning I was like Who the fuck is this? Like, seriously, she looks like a child wearing her toddlers and tiaras, but she's really grown on me. And when she was like sick at the house and everyone was being so mean to her, like trying to convince her at that dinner that she should be grateful for the comment that Kelsey gave her— I'm sorry, that was like a big L on Joellen's part. And I love Joellen, she's one of my faves. I'm sorry, like, I felt bad for her, and now I stan Rosie. Sorry. And someone's like, someone's got to do the work. And you know all the things that have come out about Kelsey.

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No.

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So her and that guy broke up 2 years ago, and he like let her use that— they're still friends— he like let her use the house. Everyone knows, like, in her friends and family, like her real friends like let her use the house, like launch her career, and like having this interesting— because otherwise, like, seriously, what? Let's say we met her post-year— yeah, 2 years post-breakup, like, why would she be on the show?

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Okay.

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Yeah, so she's just like sort of lying about everything, and she's accusing Rosie about lying.

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Um, so is that everything that's come out?

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Uh, I think there was more stuff about Rosie was on Entertainment Tonight. I was watching it on the airplane yesterday. What else did she say? I don't know.

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She's like, I don't need your life story to be like— everyone fibs a little. Like, I'm watching what I'm watching.

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Pretty privileged from you. For sure.

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But also, I, I like her just like— I like her.

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We're so off.

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We're so— except I do like Joanne.

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Oh, I do think my opinion is the unpopular one. I think everybody like loves Kelsey and think she's annoying. I think—

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oh, I have no idea.

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I haven't gone on to Twitter yet cuz I'm not like fully caught up.

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My thoughts on Ashley are a little bit different from yours cuz I agree that like while she's not a part of the group, I actually like have sort of like liked her. It's just fun to like see her in this environment.

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Mhm.

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Um, But yeah, I agree, she needs to get like a little more involved. And she does feel like— I know she said she's shy and everyone thinks she's a bitch, which I couldn't relate to that sentiment more. That's literally my life story. Like the title of my memoir, Everyone Thinks I'm a Bitch But I'm Actually Just Shy. However, I do feel like there's like an air of snobbery about her. Like where I feel like in the confessionals and everything, she— it seems like she's sort of like looking down on Rhode Island and everyone. And she's like not really jumping in, not only because of shyness, but also just because I, even in the mid-season trailer when she's like, can we all just stop yelling for one second?

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Like, girl, go on a different show.

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Like, you cry, they yell.

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Yeah.

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Like, it's whatever.

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So, yeah.

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But I'm actually, and I also feel like her life, the position that she's in in her life right now is very relatable.

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Yep.

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And I'm really enjoying watching it cuz it's like The Valley and all of that.

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Secret Lives.

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Yeah. Of like, you know, young motherhood and the stresses. And I feel like she's like sharing a lot, but I also have so much— I feel like she's such an amazing wife. She loves her husband so much.

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A little too much.

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No, I know. But like, and she was always that girl. Like even for Chris Soules, like she would've done anything for him. She's a lover. She's a lover. And she loved Jared so much. We all saw it. And like, it's interesting to see how those two people then like grow up and have a life. And she's like so supportive and so patient and so loving and like just so like worried about like her husband's happiness. Yeah. And like, It's really like admirable to watch her like be so patient.

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Yeah.

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When I think a different woman would not be, you know.

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Agreed. But it's, um, it's definitely hard to watch, you know, at times.

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Yeah. No, but it's really, uh, it's, it's admirable. I will say like how, how loving she is, but why don't we ever see their house? Why haven't we seen their house? We only see, we only see the coffee shop like for their season.

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No, I think we saw their house once. No.

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Oh no.

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They were both home with the kids.

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When?

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I don't remember, but I like— I'm like picturing their living room only because that's where she's like—

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her confessionals are, right? Right. But like, I feel like we don't like actually see a lot of her home life. And even when she talks a little bit about the influencing or like— oh wait, I'm sorry, the cruise that she went on, like, I want to see more of it.

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Kelsey being with like the Instagram hair to Rosie, like, that was really painful.

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Yeah.

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And it's like, she literally hired you. Like, what more could you want in terms of supporting someone's business?

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Yeah, no, I agree.

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Like, that was nothing.

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It's thin.

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It's thin.

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But I understand why, like, Rosie automatically rubs Kelsey the wrong way and why she's just like looking for an issue with her.

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Yeah, of course.

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Like, because I— so I understand that.

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Yeah, of course. I have that with people in my own life as well, right? But it's like, it's more of a reflection on me than it is on—

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like, would you rather go to lunch with Kelsey or Rosie right now?

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Rosie.

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Like, right now, Rosie for you.

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But we'll see where the season shakes out.

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No, I love Kelsey, and she looks like Gal Gadot.

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She's so beautiful.

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She's getting more beautiful. I feel like in the early episodes, like She just looks like a girl, but like every scene, like, and every angle that they film her at, you know, she's like, it's just, she's a pleasure to watch.

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The other thing that they had said about Kelsey was that her and Bill, like the other guy, had been dating for 2 years.

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I love it.

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Like when they literally broke up. So she's just telling the story of her life from 2 years ago.

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Okay.

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That's just a lie. Pretty privileged. Pretty privileged.

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I, I just like don't care that much cuz it's like, it's her life. Like in the house and the circumstances, housekeeper. That's not why I like her. So it's like, oh, that was—

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that is why she got on the show.

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Like, but if you told me she had a face transplant, right?

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Oh, if the pretty wasn't authentic, you would be upset.

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No, actually I wouldn't. I would just say, who's your doctor?

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Right, right.

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That's what I would say.

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And Rulala, like, she makes me so sad. What was the LulaRoe? The leggings. When they were at Polo, he left and comes back without his ring. Like, that was one of actually the craziest things. I think his parent was in the hospital just so to go see his mistress, and then she's at home being like, he went to the hospital. Why would he have to drop you at home? Why couldn't you all go to the hospital together?

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I don't know. And so what's the reason that he won't just leave her? Like, because she makes the money?

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Oh, maybe she makes some money. Or like, I don't know, I get the vibe that from a lot of these people, like the way they talk about marriages, they're like kind of old school. It's like, you just have to make it work.

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Like, I want to stay. No, why he won't leave her?

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No, because it's like their ethos is like, we make the marriages work, but like, you know, we have issues.

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Yeah, so he wants to stay married and also have a girlfriend. That's like the ideal for him.

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Do you think that Liz slept with Dino? Like, do you think that they had an affair?

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I don't know and I don't care.

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Oh, okay.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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And the way they keep talking about things and they allude to like a lot of the rumors and stuff, it's like a lot of context for us is missing.

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Needs to be provided.

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No, no, I— and they're not providing, they're just not. So I don't care.

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Yeah.

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I don't care about the ongoing, you know, and Lizzy, you know, down by the seawall, like I don't care.

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Yeah. You know, Lizzy, you know, down by the—

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it seems like there has to be like an understanding that everyone here— oh, Joellen and the sister and the husband.

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Joellen and the sister. And also, somebody help me, what does Joellen look like? Like, it's bothering me.

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Oh, I was getting close.

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Ben said it too. He was like, wait, she—

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I was getting close to it.

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I, I can't tell if it's someone in my personal life or somebody like famous.

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Um, I, I was getting close to the identification, but, um, I didn't get there yet.

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I will let you know. It's someone, right?

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It's someone. Also, but that's where I got with Kelsey and Gal Gadot. Now you will see it.

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Okay, I don't really see it, but I'll, I'll look for it now.

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You'll see it. It's like in her being, you know?

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Yeah, yeah.

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In her being, in her being of being gorgeous.

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So, uh, what nights is it on? Like, I need to add it to my weekly schedule. On a Sunday?

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Oh, Sunday.

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Oh great, so now we're 2 episodes behind. Great. Okay, we'll catch up this week. Just one. Okay, okay, um, we'll catch up this week. Also, major news in the Licks vs. Lex. I don't have my whiteboard, but if I did, like, I'm throwing it out.

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Yeah, throw it out.

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Obviously we need to talk about it every day.

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Yeah, um, the lead story today. Oh, and then also we just want to talk about Dear Media by night because we had such a fab time.

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I know, Che. Yeah, they did like a live— I don't even know what to call it. It was like almost like a festival where they had like a lineup of their most popular podcast. So it was us, of course. Taylor Strecker was a host of the evening. The Good Guys did a show. They brought out Joey Camaster, um, Amanda Hirsch. Not kidding, but not fat came. She brought out Amy Schumer, which was such a slay. We got to the downstairs dressing rooms. It was at Webster Hall, and all the, um, talent had dressing rooms with their names on the door, and it said Amanda Hirsch, Amy Schumer. And I was like, first of all, I didn't know that everybody was bringing guests. Like, we don't do guests, but— and we never would have brought one, but I just like didn't know that that was like, I guess that's what people do on like live shows.

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Yeah.

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Um, so when Ben told me he was bringing on a guest, I'm like, that's weird. But I guess it wasn't.

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We were the weird ones.

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We were the weird ones. Amy Schumer came down to the dressing room, was like swirling it up with everyone. Like, she was so regular. She looked so pretty. And she came up to us and she was like, I want to meet you guys. I'm such a fan of The Toast. Yeah. Yeah. And then she did her segment and slayed. And then Ben and Josh went and slayed. And then Jackson Turd went and obviously slayed.

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Jackson Turd came out of live show retirement.

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I know. Did it make you want to do more?

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Yes, for sure. I like it's everything around it that's really hard, you know, like the traveling or like missing bedtime or whatever. Um, but like being on stage with the Swirlies, like genuinely is electric.

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Yeah, it was— it's addicting.

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Yeah. So we, we will at some point do more. It was nice to come out for one night only, just like pop in, pop out. Mm-hmm. But it's definitely like in our future once we can like move freely, move freely. We're not in a, a free movement time in our lives.

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No.

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You know? Yeah. It was great. Yeah. So it was fun to just like one night be a rock star.

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And they also like, threw together like such a nice event that like everybody there, like they got PR bags to go home with like from all the brand sponsors. It was just like, it was kind of like really well put together. There was like custom cocktail napkins, you know. Yeah, they said, what are you nuts?

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What are you nuts?

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And they had like, you know, lots of sponsored, um, activations. Like everybody was getting True Fruit and Cloud Popcorn for free.

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I love it.

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I ate so much True Fruit when I was there. Like there was just, it was all over the dressing rooms. Yeah, I've never seen those individual size, like you get one piece of fruit. Yeah, pretty smart.

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One fro for true, for a true do.

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True do. A true do. I love that. So today's story is like, we kind of got to get into them because it's going to be hard not to. And I left my iPad in New York, so, um, if you're wondering why I look like Dan Rather, it's because I am the Dan Rather of my generation. And we're going analog today with the sponsors, so thank you to our sponsors at the, um, Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.

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Okay, our first story. Throw out the whiteboard because Alex Cooper is pregnant. She shared yesterday on Instagram this— she is expecting her first baby with her husband Matt Kaplan. So she posted photo of the two of them loved up and bumping and said, 'Our family.' Now turns out they probably are sleeping in separate bedrooms.

00:22:10

Maybe like the smell of him has started to bother her, maybe she needs more room, or maybe the pregnancy pillow just sort of only left room for one. Um, so good to know that those rumors were true.

00:22:19

Or no, but it's funny because the rumors were that like her and her husband like are rocky and they're splitting up, and those articles were coming out for weeks, and it's like, no, you couldn't have been further from the truth because they're pregnant.

00:22:28

Yeah. Now I need people to like have normal reactions to this, and I've, I've seen some really like genuinely up upsetting things. First of all, people saying, oh, you know, they're probably having a baby to fix their marriage. Like, seriously, stop. Now when someone gets pregnant, like, they are off limits. I'm sorry, they are. And I actually feel really bad that she was dealing with this in her first trimester. You know, I had a little bit of a scandal during one of my pregnancies— one of my— I've only had one, um, during my one and only pregnancy. And let me tell you, it was really hard. Like, it messes with your mental health. And like, I feel bad for her.

00:22:54

So, you know, did you have—

00:22:56

well, sorry, we— yeah, and we didn't even do anything. Like, I was getting canceled and I literally was just like laying in bed. It was insane. So I will tell you, it's very hard on your health. So I feel bad for from. Yeah, another reaction—

00:23:07

why they went to Hawaii. Yeah, of course, away from it all.

00:23:10

Of course. Another reaction, like, again, I need people to be normal, is like, well, Alex Earle obviously knew that she was pregnant, so she withheld, you know, in, in getting herself involved and making it worse for Alex Cooper. And it's like, okay, like, she obviously didn't know that. She didn't know she was pregnant.

00:23:24

I don't think that she did. Um, no, but also, like, Alex Cooper did open the ring.

00:23:30

Yep.

00:23:31

While she was pregnant. But she was also probably, like, just feeling like, you know, you also just get, like, impatient. And also, like, pregnancy and having babies, like, makes you real— it makes you tough like makes you just be like nothing matters.

00:23:39

Like, only a crazy hormonal pregnant woman would start this drama, honestly.

00:23:42

Yeah, but also like sometimes when you're like younger and scared, you just like shy away from things. But like the confidence that comes with like pregnancy and being a mother, you're like, say it! Yeah, let's fight!

00:23:53

Yeah, of course. I want to say something and I know you don't want me to say it, but I do want to say like— and it's just like the most annoying thing you can say— but like I did have a feeling she might be pregnant. And if you watch a video, um, I only saw the trailer, her episode with Kevin Hart, like The Roots, That's why I'm so glad I don't dye my hair. Like, you can't dye your hair in the first trimester or the whole pregnancy.

00:24:08

Some people don't do it whole pregnancy, but definitely not first trimester. But it opens your roots, will give you away, I guess.

00:24:13

So, right? I think she thought like the slick back pony would help.

00:24:15

She changes up her hair.

00:24:16

Really? I actually feel like it's the one thing she doesn't change.

00:24:18

No, she's like had different shades of blonde. Like, some people grow their roots out, some people like are transition to brunette. Like, it could be, um, it could be a bunch of stuff. Yeah.

00:24:28

Well, the roots are a dead giveaway for the blonde swirlies. So thankfully we don't have that problem.

00:24:32

Yeah.

00:24:33

Um, I think this is nice. Like, yeah, it also, it is really crazy cuz I feel like it's so like against her ethos, you know?

00:24:40

It's very incongruous with like, I don't know, her messaging. Her messaging. I don't wanna say her because I don't know her. And I feel like there's a, a complete difference between like what she puts out in the world and who she actually is because a lot of the content that she's become famous for, I don't know what she says on every single episode, but a lot of like the ethos is like, like, you know, women, we don't need a man, dump him.

00:25:00

Well, she's like getting married and having babies.

00:25:02

She's very traditional.

00:25:03

Yeah, very oddly. Yes, she actually is very traditional. When— yes, a lot of her messaging like encourages fellow women, fellow—

00:25:08

like, be independent, right? Men stink, right?

00:25:11

Break up with your boyfriend. And I think she also— she's on an episode about like how okay it is to like, you know, push kids down the line. That was kind of recent. So I think this is wonderful. I was shocked.

00:25:22

Yeah, me too.

00:25:22

Yeah, and I like being shocked.

00:25:24

Yeah, me too. But I also— I also saw a video today that was like, she's just like won the battle because I don't think at this point— not that Alex Earle was like, this is changing anything for Alex Earle's plan, but like now it's kind of case closed. You're not going to go after a pregnant woman.

00:25:40

Absolutely. No, it's definitely— it definitely changes the landscape of the fight.

00:25:43

It also makes me want to start fights like when I'm pregnant because then no one's going to come after a pregnant woman, right?

00:25:48

Absolutely. I need to call Ben. We need to, you know, we should always have like one of us And I don't know if everybody agrees with this, but in terms of like internet, like drama, like I do feel like pregnant people are off limits. I really do.

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Yeah, once it's—

00:26:02

once they're pregnant. But nobody knew, right? So I didn't ever—

00:26:04

like I mentioned, so like, so it shouldn't come out on the show? On this?

00:26:07

I actually do wonder if this changes Alex Earle's plans at all. Like maybe she was like planning on going in and it's like by then the show— she'll be like 9 months pregnant. That's even worse. Like, yeah, I don't know. I really don't know. I'm curious.

00:26:19

Um, uh, I feel like it doesn't change her plans.

00:26:23

Okay.

00:26:24

Because I— she does still need to—

00:26:25

and she didn't start this.

00:26:26

She has her own brand to worry about. And if she like has— oh, if she just leaves this open-ended forever, like, that's not good. Um, especially if she has some big story to tell.

00:26:34

Yeah.

00:26:34

And she didn't start it. So I guess like pregnant women then just get licensed to start stuff.

00:26:38

Yeah.

00:26:38

Which is also not fair. Yeah. Which is— and not historically true.

00:26:42

But it is funny because when we saw the video, one of our takes on it was like how out of character this was. And like, she never, you know, sort of—

00:26:50

it's the confidence—

00:26:50

lowers herself.

00:26:51

Confidence of a new mama.

00:26:52

It's not only that, it's like the hormones too. Like, it really will make you feel fed up.

00:26:56

Yeah, you're fed up.

00:26:57

So it, it makes it like— it adds—

00:26:59

it also sort of like— that's also kind of reductive to just be like, she's a spiraling hormonal woman. That's like when people are like, she's on her period.

00:27:07

She probably was on her period. Like, no, no, you're so right. It's so reductive. Not me being reductive.

00:27:12

No, but it's not about the hormones for me. It's about the fact that like when just so many bigger things are happening, like when your life is changing and you're pregnant and you become a mother, it just like puts things in perspective. Perspective.

00:27:22

Absolutely.

00:27:23

Sort of like fearless.

00:27:24

How many weeks along do you think she is?

00:27:26

I think that belly, I think she's just out of the first trimester cuz she also shared like on her Instagram yesterday, like so happy I can finally like, I don't have to hide this belly anymore. So I feel like she was like waiting for like the first minute she could post.

00:27:36

Yeah.

00:27:37

That's just my take.

00:27:38

Oh, you know, and maybe she was gonna post it like a little while ago, but she like didn't think, I feel like maybe she's like 20 weeks.

00:27:42

6.

00:27:43

Yeah, because like her announcement maybe got pushed back a little bit, perhaps.

00:27:47

But she would have been the one to push it back because she posted the video, right?

00:27:51

Yeah, but she didn't know it was going to turn into like this whole Vanity Fair exposé.

00:27:54

Yeah.

00:27:54

I also am curious like what this means for her content and her, um, like branding, because she's like made a very, um, intentional choice like I want to say like 5 or 6 years ago to be very Gen Z.

00:28:04

Like she's, you know, Gen Z language, Gen Z influencers, Gen Z content, every like PR press article is like, you know, unwell, the voice of Gen Z network. Like, that's— they've led with Gen Z, right?

00:28:14

They do like Gen Z programming. So is she going to become like Millennial Mama making reels?

00:28:20

Making—

00:28:20

I'm so curious, like, will the reels— do the reels begin now?

00:28:24

I don't know. I actually do think she's low-key been like turning Millennial with all this reality content.

00:28:30

Yeah, it's Millennial women who love reality TV, and I, I don't think like Gen Z like, I don't think like Gen Z like being spoken to like by a not Gen Z person.

00:28:41

No, no.

00:28:42

So maybe like there was a brand shift and she was like, oh, maybe I can have a baby.

00:28:45

Yeah. Also, I'm cracking up because my agent texted me this morning being like, do you actually want to go on Potsters?

00:28:51

Yes, she does. Yes, she does. You should.

00:28:55

Only if they film in South Florida.

00:28:56

Only if they film in South Florida and you don't have to live at the house. Like, you can go home at night.

00:28:59

Yeah, of course, of course. I don't know if it's gonna be podsters, but like, I'm now like, you're itching to do— I'm not itching. I'm curious about like one of these sorts of programs.

00:29:08

Like it would be so fucking funny. What's the one that— why can't I even remember the name? Special Forces.

00:29:15

Oh my God.

00:29:16

You actually would win though. You have insane mental fortitude. Like people don't know that about you. Like how tough you are up here. You think so? The physical stuff like would be hard for you.

00:29:23

No, but once I get into a physical shape, right? I, I, I'm an athlete.

00:29:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But where you really like what your strength over anyone else is up here. Yeah.

00:29:29

It's both.

00:29:29

It's mental and physical.

00:29:30

I love that for you. Oh my God, no, I couldn't.

00:29:33

And then I could like be what you did at Masked Singer. Like, it's fun to watch someone else do the hard thing, you know?

00:29:38

And like, no, I don't think Special Forces. I think that's again like too involved. Yeah, but something like very light where it's like a bunch of like internet personalities. Could you imagine me and them? I know.

00:29:47

And then it's like sort of like a land— landline of like people we've talked about. Yeah.

00:29:52

Oh, and then I'll obviously be in the drama because they'll be like, you said this about the episode. I'm just gonna be like, yeah, I did.

00:29:57

Let's talk about it.

00:29:58

Let's not talk about it. Yeah, right.

00:29:59

That's my art. I can't be held responsible for anything I say when I'm creating art. Yeah, but I think I would make like friends last a lifetime.

00:30:04

I'm very friendly, you know?

00:30:06

Yeah.

00:30:07

Like I always cultivate like a great group of friends.

00:30:08

I would just hope that you would stay on long enough for people to really get to know you. Cause like, like we were saying before, like you come off when people don't know you, they really think you're mean. Mm-hmm. Like you just have that sort of like cold face. Mm-hmm. And so I would say, I would hope that you would stay on for like the first 3, 4, 5 episodes so that everybody can get to know you. Like you're the nerd who everybody realizes he takes off his glasses and he's handsome.

00:30:27

Yeah. Not only like my fellow cast members, but also the audience.

00:30:30

Of course.

00:30:30

You know, I think I would have a real arc with the audience.

00:30:33

Oh, I've chills just thinking about this show. Maybe we should just produce it ourselves. Yeah, we should, just to show everyone, like, might be like Bobby Flay, but you're the Bobby Flay and you just go up against challenges on other internet stars.

00:30:44

No, we're like, we have to build like the house environment of a show that I could go on, you know? Yeah.

00:30:49

So everybody brings their kids to the daycare.

00:30:50

I actually think it could be Podsters if it films in like, say, Utah. Uh-huh. And I could go with my family. Yeah. And I can sleep with my family. And then go and stir the pot.

00:31:00

Jackie on Pot Stir is when?

00:31:02

I think it's like a Thanksgiving-centered show.

00:31:04

I know, I'll come too. I want— I don't want to be on the show, but we can like all stay in Utah for Thanksgiving.

00:31:08

We could do live shows, pay the bills with live shows.

00:31:11

I love that.

00:31:13

I love it. I need more information on Pot Stir.

00:31:17

What'd you text your agent?

00:31:18

Yes. Um, what did I say? I think maybe just like a bunch of LOLs. I don't know, like nothing actually I think I said only if they're filming in South Florida, LOL, or Utah, or if it's in Utah.

00:31:30

Get the deets, get the deets. Even though the last one was in Utah. Well, she obviously likes Utah, and it can't be a prerequisite to like you sleeping in the house. Like, no, no, no.

00:31:38

Or I could do like Jackson Hole, you know, somewhere beautiful.

00:31:43

Aspen, Montana, Genov— Genovia.

00:31:46

Fine, I'll go to Courchevel.

00:31:48

Fine, we'll do it.

00:31:50

We'll do it.

00:31:51

Twist, twist mountains. So funny, so funny. Seriously, crazy plot twist in this whole saga that she's pregnant. Like, seriously, mazel tov. I really hope that, like, she don't let it get to her. I do feel like she's also very tough. Like, in order to operate at the level that she's at— I know everybody, like, loves to, like, make their think pieces on TikTok, but, like, sorry, to get to the level that she's at, like, you have to be a different kind of beast. And she definitely is. Like, she has what it takes. Because there are a lot of podcasts who even interview high-level people and they're not operating at the level that she is. So I do think it takes like a very special type of person, and hopefully that's the same type of person who can just like stay sound of mind and at peace in a first trimester cancelation.

00:32:28

Also, for the most part, if she turned off her phone, it goes away. It goes away. Except it was like on the news, so it was—

00:32:36

it was—

00:32:36

so you have to turn off the local news too.

00:32:38

And this big alleged hit piece, which I imagine like her and her team and her lawyers are like involved in.

00:32:44

But this is bad for Vanity Fair because like they should have gotten it in before this, because now you just look like an asshole.

00:32:50

It's a destabilizer, like it's a neutralizer, this pregnancy.

00:32:52

Especially if the article like comes after their marriage a little bit, like, right, and also tries to make the case that like there's trouble in paradise.

00:33:00

I think that the article, based on what I've heard, is really about him. Yeah, not her, which isn't a good look for like everyone's feminist queen, that like her husband's over here like destroying her empire and like stealing her money. But they haven't said anything yet, so I'm just making stuff up again.

00:33:13

And I just think that like the, the gap between like who she act— the life she actually lives and the, the show It is why I feel like, like, really nobody knows her.

00:33:23

I don't know her. Like, who is— literally, who in the world is Alexandra Cooper? It's kind of a slay.

00:33:28

It's kind of, it's kind of nice.

00:33:30

She has Shalom Bayit for sure.

00:33:31

Well, I don't know about like recently, but no, no, no, but like, it is nice to not, to not have the whole world know all your business.

00:33:38

Yeah, agreed.

00:33:39

And if you're able to like cultivate an audience and be a successful—

00:33:43

and like earn a living doing content while sharing nothing—

00:33:46

knows nothing about you, it's a slay.

00:33:48

I agree. You have, you have privacy and like this.

00:33:50

Mhm. Mhm. Okay, are you ready for our next story? Yeah, some more feud news. Dina Manzo's daughter is fighting with Bethenny Frankel.

00:33:59

This is so crazy.

00:33:59

Calling her a weirdo for failing to credit her shoe business. So Dina Manzo's daughter—

00:34:03

I saw the video and I didn't know it was Dina Manzo's daughter.

00:34:06

I saw the video knowing, like, I saw it with the context of Dina Manzo's daughter.

00:34:10

I was going to say, it doesn't really change anything, the fact that she's her daughter. No, I mean, it's just— you should like—

00:34:14

yeah, it doesn't change that much, but it's like, I don't know, I guess it's just germane to the story. Dina Manzo's daughter from The Real Housewives of New Jersey has a shoe company.

00:34:24

It's called New Shoes.

00:34:25

She posted a video calling Bethenny Frankel a weirdo, citing the fact that she sent Bethenny Frankel some of her shoes a while ago.

00:34:32

She sent a screenshot of the message, and she was like really like— you could see like very eager, like, hey, can I send you shoes? And like following up a million times. And she— Bethenny did accept the shoes.

00:34:41

Bethenny accepted the shoes. Then this week, doing press for Sports Illustrated, Bethenny wore a very cute outfit, made a very cute video to like a Jessie J song. And she's wearing the shoes. And I guess the video like did really well for Bethenny, and people asked like, where are the shoes from? And Bethenny posted a screenshot of the shoes and said, here's where you can find a similar pair, with a link. So Dina Manzo's daughter like made a video being like, Bethenny Frankel is a weirdo. Not only like did we send her shoes and she wears them and she loves them, but she posted a link, an affiliate link, so she's making money off the link to a dupe of the shoe. Um, so someone who's like essentially making like knocking off her brand.

00:35:14

So because the shoes were sold out?

00:35:16

Well, so she makes this video like talking like a lot of shit about her and how she's like a bad person because she linked the dupe shoes. And I was like, well, damn. Well, like, Bethany, that is a weird thing to do.

00:35:28

Bethany had also worn the shoes a year ago, um, before this, and I guess like didn't tag but didn't do like an outfit reveal or anything. She just wore them and didn't tag, which like is really not a crime. You send someone shoes and like you have to sort of— when you're doing gifting, like you have to make peace with the fact that like you're giving something for free, and if they get it and they post it, that's great, but if not, you You can't go into it having such high expectations.

00:35:49

Wearing the shoes and not tagging is not a big deal at all. The damning thing was that she had posted like an affiliate link to a dupe of the shoe. So I was like, oh, that's like very weird. What does Bethany have to say about this? So Bethany comes on and makes a video just being like, well, damn, you played yourself because the shoes were sold out. My audience doesn't like when I click to something that they can't buy. So I posted a similar pair and I had posted, made a video, it's in my drafts of my outfit of the day with all the details. And if you had just waited, I would've posted that video and you would've gotten a boom, but instead you played the short game and you've pissed me off and you've missed out on what could have been. And I was like, well damn. And she eventually did post the video that she had made that day. So like there was no, it was real. She literally took off the shoe to read the name of the brand and shared it with her audience of what the shoes were. And now of course there's beef between the two.

00:36:42

No, and the internet like loves to hate Bethany and they, the internet loves like a loser victim.

00:36:45

Mm-hmm.

00:36:46

So this girl who got like her business going, oh, and like she also really lost money.

00:36:48

She opened her shoes now for pre-order.

00:36:50

Like now everyone's like blowing up her business. So like, this is, this is like internet, like you make yourself a victim and like everybody loves you, when actually like, yeah, Bethany's explanation of it like made a lot of sense.

00:36:59

What you want her to do, link sold-out shoes, right?

00:37:03

And if you just had waited, like she, she did kind of slay because she had the video. Now someone could say like she put the clothes back on and made— no, it was so clearly the same stoop where she made the Jessie J video.

00:37:13

Yes, for sure. Um, And yeah, she's not gonna link that. I guess she could have said these are new shoes, but here's a similar pair. But that's like such a minor detail.

00:37:25

This is also dupe culture. Like, the internet dupe like pipeline is insane, and people love dupes.

00:37:30

When she goes at the end that she was like, you know, that she would do this to like a small business, a woman-owned business— like, shut up, right? She could do it if it was a man-owned, right?

00:37:40

Correct. Could you do it? Or man-owned the business?

00:37:43

Then it's okay. Yeah, like irrelevant.

00:37:46

Agreed.

00:37:47

So honestly, I was actually like ready to be like, oh, Bethany's gonna have to apologize, like this is so awkward. And then I saw Bethany's video, I was like, yeah, yeah.

00:37:54

And is she— like, Bethany was coming at it like giving, you know, business advice to a girl who seriously did not want to hear it, but basically being like, yeah, you shot yourself in the foot by like making this whole big spectacle. But you know what, in the end of the day, while Bethany's business sense is like very OG business, like internet drama, people love to side— they love to hate Bethany Bethany, they love to side with like a small female business owner who was, you know, so she's, I'm sure raking it in now. She put this shoe, the shoes have been sold out. So like there was nothing to sell. Mm-hmm. Um, but now they're up for pre-order and everyone's, you know, to stick it to Bethany.

00:38:21

Great.

00:38:23

Yeah.

00:38:23

Great. To stick it to Bethany. I'm gonna spend a couple hundred dollars on shoes.

00:38:26

Right.

00:38:27

Also, that's just like a moment, you know, like to have a viral moment with your product is really amazing. But that doesn't, that's not a great beginning of her business, but it's not like, you know, this— it will be a great moment, but there you have to build on that momentum. Yeah, you know.

00:38:47

Yeah, it, it was a crazy story. And when I found out it was Dina Manzo's daughter, I didn't recognize her. Her name is Lexi, right? Mhm. I mean, I remember from the early season she looked so different. I, I had no idea. It came up on my— I saw this whole thing happen naturally. It came up on my For You page. She opens her video, Bethenny Frankel is a weirdo, and I was like, oh, I wonder why. I'm sad. And I had no idea that it was her.

00:39:08

And also, I feel like in business, even if Bethany— I've never posted the second video— in business, like, these are like shitty things that happen sometimes along the way that you're like, well, damn, that didn't go our way, and damn, we got a little bit screwed here and there. Now with like the internet, you can blow up every slight and like make a moment of it, but like, these things happen.

00:39:24

Not only that, but nothing happened. Like, look, when you— when you are a brand selling— sending clothing to a celebrity, what is your biggest hope? That they wear them. She's literally at the biggest event of the weekend besides Dear Media by Night. She's at Sports Illustrated. She's being paparazzi. Hold up the picture. Literally wearing your shoes. What more could you want? And you told us now this is the second time she's worn them. So she did exactly what you wanted. You wanted her to wear them. You also wanted her to post them. But like, it's honestly giving Rosie and Kelsey, the obsession with posting. No, I get it. No, it's like a small brand. When you send somebody gifting, like, your hope and dream and wish upon a star is that they blow it up and post a million things. But you have to be okay with— you voluntarily asking us. This happens all the time. I remember, I like, I'm always seeing like, I sent this influencer, and it's like you're begging someone to send them product. They let you send. Sometimes they'll blow it up, wear it all the time. They love it so much.

00:40:08

Sometimes they don't like it and never wear it. And sometimes it's something like this where like they wear it and they don't blow it up in the way that you wanted them to. But like the expectation that you're just sending product to somebody who would probably get paid by a shoe brand $100,000 for a TikTok or two, like she wore them and she wore them to a major event. What more do you want?

00:40:24

Yeah, I guess like the small slight was posting the dupe, right?

00:40:29

Um, but dupe culture, like we can get into dupe culture as well with an affiliate link, but that was only because they were sold out. Right.

00:40:35

So what would you have liked her to post?

00:40:37

Just, just like tagging that they were tagged, but she made the video saying that they were new. She hadn't posted it yet.

00:40:41

Yeah. So I think all in all, yeah, she'll have a great moment. I'm sure she has no regrets about what she did, but big picture, I don't think this was the move.

00:40:49

No. And I don't think Bethany's now gonna be like working with a lot of small businesses, like with TikTok followings.

00:40:54

Yeah. No, I mean, I don't know.

00:40:57

I think everyone makes a video about something. Like everyone's trying to like make their moment on someone else's thing.

00:41:01

Like, yeah, but at the end of the day, like, we're still talking about Bethenny, so thanks.

00:41:04

We are always talking about Bethenny.

00:41:06

Yeah, everything she does. She can't wear a pair of shoes and post a leg.

00:41:09

Correct. She looks great.

00:41:10

Yeah, she did look great. Um, okay, next story. Are you ready? Double date news. Jacob Elordi and Kendall Jenner, Justin and Hailey were there with Kylie and Timothée, and allegedly Justin and Hailey.

00:41:22

That's what Deuximo said.

00:41:23

Okay, well, that makes it— they weren't in the car.

00:41:25

I guess like Kylie and Kendall maybe are going to like Hidden Hills or like family-owned car. Yeah.

00:41:30

Well, if it was just the four of them—

00:41:32

obsessed. We were just talking about like, do you think that Jacob Elordi and Timothée Chalamet like, like the potential brother-in-law, or do they beef with one another? Because they probably like kill each other for roles.

00:41:41

I think they're different enough. And again, I think like Timothée is overly confident in his craft. Jacob definitely like works on it in the mirror with mantras.

00:41:49

Yeah, I mean like, hi Timothée, nice to meet you. Hi Timothée, how was your day?

00:41:52

I'm really happy for you, Timothée.

00:41:53

Timothée, you look great in orange. Timothée, I loved you in Martyrs Supreme. Him. But go next.

00:41:57

I think Timothy can like, you know, be friends with him. And I think this is cute. And I also— I just want to say I really like Kendall and Jacob Elordi. Like, yeah, I mean, it's like dating your twin brother, but yeah, they went to Hawaii, so like they're actually dating. And I would love to see Kenny, you know, settle down.

00:42:12

Yeah, I just don't get the vibe that like Jacob's in his settling down era, even though every time I watch an interview of his, he's like extremely well adjusted. He like is not a fame like whore. He brings his mom everywhere, like I get the vibe. Loves baseball, his friends and his mom. Yeah, I just get the vibe that he's like ready to settle down, even though nothing he does gives me that reason.

00:42:33

And I don't know if she is like— I know she's not like made any sort of like proclamation that like she feels differently, right, about life.

00:42:40

Well, cute double date.

00:42:42

Super cute.

00:42:42

Speaking of like people who have dated Kendall Jenner, can we talk about Harry Styles really quickly? Sure. I don't know if you saw over the weekend, because it— I feel like it largely happened on TikTok. It was opening night of his Liz Woods is keeping me abreast of his opening night of his weekend, uh, opening weekend of his tour, um, which I guess like up until recently has been really heavily criticized for its pricing, um, by Ticketmaster, by resale. I don't know, I can't get into it. Like, by the fans, the fans are upset.

00:43:05

But like, is Harry actually making the money? Is it like Taylor Swift?

00:43:08

What's dynamic pricing, which people hate? Um, he's playing these huge arenas, and so there was a lot of expectations were high because if you're going to charge that much— and I feel like with the Eras Tour, like, every person who said that they had to like sell people, you know, take their kid out of college for a semester just to pay for tickets. Didn't regret it. Like, after the show, they were like, you know what, we got a 4-hour show, I feel good about— there really wasn't a lot of backlash. And she did everything she could to keep the prices down, but like, with scalpers, and she didn't do dynamic pricing. Um, so the expectations were high for Harry, and opening weekend was just like kind of a flop according to people who were there. Like, I didn't go and I didn't watch any of the footage, but the criticism I'm seeing for people who were there was like, first of all, it was completely bright in the stadium, which was just like a weird vibe.

00:43:45

Vibe.

00:43:45

Um, this stage is the biggest thing you've ever seen. He doesn't really sing a lot of his like big notes. He's like not singing well. Um, he has the wired microphone running around this like big stage. Like the criticisms were, were there. Um, and I just feel like nobody like kind of wants to hear it, but we have been talking for, you know, quite a few weeks and months that like this most recent drop of his— and we do always compare it to like the other pop girlies, and I'm not like glad he's getting criticism, but like if this was a female who like was charging thousands of tickets and like gave a very mid performance where like they're not even singing the notes to their own songs, like we would all be talking about it. So we have to talk about it.

00:44:20

It's equality.

00:44:21

Yeah, it's, it's quality. Like, and I think that the Eras Tour is a really good comparison because he's playing really huge venues, um, he's not really delivering.

00:44:29

Interesting.

00:44:29

It's been an interesting weekend for Harry Styles. I saw a couple of unfortunate clips that like, I, I don't want to like judge the whole show, but I know because there used to be like clips that people would post of Taylor being like, this is your queen, and it's her dancing.

00:44:38

And also like people would post— used to post— like, it's just about the context. They used to post clips of Harry Styles just standing there and be like, oh my God, it's amazing. Here he is again standing there and it's no longer amazing. So I'm not like— I— you don't want to just take, take a snapshot. Um, but I guess, yeah, the discourse isn't super positive. But he did just have a baby and he's in his new mama era, so I think he didn't have a baby, so I think he's doing what he can.

00:45:00

No, that's what we would say about a woman. No, but like, what's his excuse?

00:45:03

He's engaged, he's in his new mama, but maybe stress from the wedding planning. No, I don't know what his excuse is why he would have lost his voice.

00:45:09

Yeah, like not even singing, that's the weird part. Like a lot of times you can criticize whatever, you know, like the outfits, but like if they sing—

00:45:14

why doesn't— why does he keep his shirt on? You know, like why does he—

00:45:16

that would be an easy fix, just take your shirt off or something. Yeah, or your pants. Like seriously, everyone would be really happy.

00:45:21

Wasn't he always shirtless before?

00:45:23

I think like his shtick is just like a little over. Yeah, um, you know, like always with the male dancers and sexy male, and it's like, well, all you've ever done is date like the most beautiful women in the world. So like, not to be— not to be woke, but like it's giving queerbaiting. Yeah, instead I feel like a lot of his shtick is also— it's like culture is like, we're not really into the woke stuff. Like, people are like moving on a little bit.

00:45:42

Like, so you don't think it would be like help if he put on a dress?

00:45:46

I don't know, people do love when he wears a dress and it gets people talking. That's the thing. Yeah, I feel like the thing with Harry Styles is like no one's talking. Like, we don't really care. Like, the album stunk and like people are not living for him and his engagement. Like, 5 years ago, not even 3 years ago, if you told me Harry Styles got engaged, like, the world would have been turned upside down. Nobody cares. I kind of care. I feel like I care more than other people. Yeah, like, I don't know why he's just like not making an impact.

00:46:07

Yeah.

00:46:08

And it's not like he's been eclipsed. Like, who's like the new male pop star?

00:46:10

No one. Like, one, but if you think about like the males who are having a moment right now, would be like Somber and Role Model, and it's just like a different vibe. Yeah, it's a different vibe. And the vibe that he chose for this era was like '80s businessman.

00:46:22

Yes, it's giving '80s businessman.

00:46:24

Yes. And that's not like, you know, what the people— the moment right now. He's not meeting the moment.

00:46:30

Yeah, it's, it's, um, it's—

00:46:33

and I mean, even aging, Benson is like almost going to like break his neck throwing flips.

00:46:37

But Benson is doing like OG Harry stuff, cuz there are a lot of comparisons, which is very like Freddie Mercury coded, and it's working for Benson, right?

00:46:43

But Benson is doing more than Harry, you know? Yes, yes, Harry's doing the least.

00:46:49

Yeah, yeah, no, it's, it's just been interesting.

00:46:51

Benson's throwing tricks at every show, flips and schmips and handsprings. Yeah, Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, are you ready for our next story?

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Thank you. You're welcome.

00:52:58

You're welcome.

00:52:58

I'm—

00:52:59

how did everybody like my paperwork today?

00:53:00

We liked it.

00:53:01

Yeah, it was good.

00:53:02

Thank you, Dan.

00:53:02

And you, like, if you're listening as an audio, you probably heard like shuffling. That was me just shuffling my papers.

00:53:06

Classic papers.

00:53:07

Classic Dan.

00:53:08

Um, remember when we were at Deer Media and we did the photo booth for Face Foundry and we sent the photos to my husband's email?

00:53:15

Because— oh yeah, because it was like a touchscreen and I had to write like Claudia. Like, so Jackie said her husband's email is so simple, it really was 5 words.

00:53:22

And so he just texted us the photos. Oh yeah, one— like, they're actually kind— there's one that's really good.

00:53:27

I don't know, I was like looking, like, big face.

00:53:29

No, but it's like a black and white photo booth. It's like Parge. Um, but it was just funny, I forgot that we did that. And then how cute! Oh, and it's a little GIF, you know, like Monday morning he got on his work email.

00:53:38

I'm seriously cracking up.

00:53:39

You're thinking of him, like, imagine such a treasure.

00:53:42

I mean, it is— it was a Spritz event, like Spritz was served. Oh, big Spritz news coming tomorrow, and I feel like we've really undersold like what what we created.

00:53:50

Yeah, we've created something amazing, kind of like an industry-leading—

00:53:53

it's gonna like kind of change like the whole alcohol game. I know it sounds crazy, I'm not being drama, but like watch this space, watch this space, and check the Spritz Instagram tomorrow. Next up, we filmed a commercial at Jackie's house, like, yeah, like an actual commercial.

00:54:05

Yeah, we did. Next up, um, Gucci show making news. I would say the lead story, Tom Brady making his catwalk debut at the Gucci show.

00:54:14

Oh, I'm sorry, you know I just— speaking about Gucci and Demna reminded me of like an inappropriate joke about children I wanted to bring up.

00:54:19

Okay.

00:54:20

I hate to be like woke mama.

00:54:22

Do it.

00:54:23

But there was a joke. I watched, um, SNL. You know, they do once a year where, um, Weekend Update, Michael and— it's actually so funny. I always watch them. I don't really love SNL, but at the end of every season, Weekend Update, the two co-hosts who are Michael Che and Colin Jost, they write jokes for one another and they have to— they have to read them and they don't get to see them before. So Michael writes jokes for Colin. They're always like really racist and Colin writes jokes for Michael, and they're always like sexually inappropriate. And one of the jokes like actually wasn't funny, like it really made me sick. And I'm not seeing enough hate.

00:54:52

No.

00:54:53

Oh, Michael Jackson jokes, I'm sorry, like they are funny.

00:54:55

Okay.

00:54:56

Um, so Colin wrote this for Michael Che, and it was like, new reports say that like drinking grape juice is like 50% more likely to give you an erect penis or whatever, which makes sense because all my boyfriends love grape juice. And they show a picture of like an actual 6-year-old with the juice box. Oh no, because all my boyfriends are erect. Yeah, what? Yeah, you want me to find it? It was insane. I was like, I was enjoying up until then. I'm like, oh, haha. And then I was like, what? I swear it was really yucky, like talking about a child and saying erect. Like, seriously, are people fucking okay? Hollywood has never beaten the pedophilia allegations. Like, I'm sorry, every time they like start to call Demna—

00:55:38

like, I'm sorry, it's weird, but they are pedophiles. Pedophiles in Hollywood.

00:55:41

I know.

00:55:41

So it's like they can't beat them because they are them.

00:55:44

And like, where is like the, you know, that like mother's group, like Mothers Against Drunk Driving? And there's like a mother's group for TV. Yeah, they need to go after that. Like, Colin Jost, I'm sorry, you're disgusting for that.

00:55:53

Yeah.

00:55:53

And I was just starting to really like Colin Jost. He was on New Heights like being hilarious. Yucky. Like, seriously, yucky. Stop making jokes about kids. Like, seriously, if you can't be funny without talking about pedophilia, like, maybe you're just not funny.

00:56:04

Yeah. Unless you want to make jokes about the pedophiles and make fun of the pedophile.

00:56:08

I said pedophilia. Yeah, not pedophile. Yeah, yeah, that is Michael Jackson. Like I said, I'm always down for a Michael Jackson joke.

00:56:15

Um, okay, well, Gucci show and everyone was there, but now like Demna is Gucci.

00:56:20

I know, I was like, why is everyone going Gucci? And it's because of Balenciaga. And you know what, like maybe everyone will stop because— well, I don't think it was Demna who was like giving the weird child vibes.

00:56:29

I think he's amongst—

00:56:30

oh really? Yeah, yeah, I thought it was like, um, yeah, maybe.

00:56:33

Okay, so yeah, like, and I think then people started looking into Demna and they didn't like what they saw. Oh, oh, so then like Demna went to Gucci and now everyone's at Gucci and that's not good. Yeah, everyone was at Gucci.

00:56:42

Tom Brady, Alex Earle, Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton.

00:56:45

She walks and like Alex Earle gets invited to a Gucci event, like I don't expect— I don't blame her though, like, and she's just like operating at such an A-list level.

00:56:51

One thing about me, I never blame Alex Earle for anything.

00:56:52

No, but there are some people who have choices.

00:56:54

Yeah.

00:56:55

And they choose to do this.

00:56:56

Yeah. And also like randomly, like Tom Brady, like you aren't a model, you aren't a fashionista. Um, I saw him like mean mugging, he's like, he's seriously a stereotype. He's Ben Stiller. Yeah, he's like this, he's literally doing— he watched Zoolander, like he was giving Blue deal in like the Zoolander leather outfit. He looked like so silly. He seriously has like no shame. Yeah, I'm such a Tom Brady hater. Yeah, Paris Hilton also walked the show in a wig, in an Amanda Batura wig.

00:57:20

Yeah, yeah, she also has choices, you know.

00:57:23

Yeah, absolutely.

00:57:24

Kim has choices.

00:57:25

She has less choices than others, but she has choices.

00:57:27

And Tom Brady has choices. Yeah, it was in the middle of Times Square and these are the choices that they made.

00:57:32

Yeah, and it's crazy because like Alex Earle— and I'm sure she just like wears what she's told to wear— but she was like literally wearing like an actual little like Fashion Nova gray bodycon dress. It's like, that's Gucci, you know? That dress is like probably $2,000.

00:57:43

But she doesn't have choices.

00:57:44

No, I, I don't— I never blame Alex Earl. You guys know that. Like, she's just like happy to be there. Yeah, like honored.

00:57:50

Honored. Yeah.

00:57:51

And then like, and she'll get to a place where like she has choices, and I know she'll make the right ones. I know her dad will make the right one.

00:57:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But until she has to do these things to get— of course, of course, of course. Um, so yeah. Yeah, Gucci, Gucci. Our fifth and final story, a little baby mama drama. Oh my God, and Pete Davidson are like really, you know, getting messy publicly. So Elsie Hewitt called out Pete Davidson after their split as a source refutes her claim that he doesn't support their daughter. So Elsie Hewitt started responding to comments.

00:58:24

She made a video on TikTok just talking about how she's like doing this alone and she still has to work, and she's just like sort of like rattling off sort of motherhood musings, which would have been relatable but people are also like, your baby daddy is a famous person, so like, why are you struggling? Like, and so the comments were like, I hope this doesn't mean you're doing this alone financially too. And she was like, yep. She's since deleted the comments confirming that like Pete is a deadbeat financially, emotionally. Pete also then via a rep said that this is not true, he's covering actually all of the baby's costs. Yeah, so I don't know what to believe. So I'm gonna give two responses. Okay, here's my response if Pete Davidson is a read. You're literally disgusting and I hate you. Shame on you. And, um, I think you're one of the lowest levels of human beings and like you should actually change everything about yourself. I think you're disgusting.

00:59:10

I just want to say, I just— because I have like a hard time believing when people can be so horrible, especially if they've not like shown evil, if they've not shown like evil, horrible behavior. I don't think he's going to be like Dad of the Year, Partner of the Year, sure, but like sending a Zelle to go— like to go from being excited about the birth of your child to like leaving the mother of your child and your child financially stranded when you are of means. Like, I, I can't believe— I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not doing evil, that you're not that horrible. Okay, so I actually don't believe that it's that. Yeah, I don't believe it.

00:59:42

Oh, okay.

00:59:42

Like, I'm in disbelief.

00:59:43

You're doubting postpartum women?

00:59:45

No, I think it's like, you know, a difference of language and stuff. She— plus she deleted the comment.

00:59:49

Yeah, right.

00:59:49

She also could be like refusing to accept his help because she's so mad at him, right, for whatever he did. And so she's like, I am going to do —by yourself, like by myself. Fuck you, I don't want anything from you. I can do it by myself.

00:59:59

I do want to say, like, I— whether or not this is true, I blame Pete Davidson wholeheartedly for everything. Like, this is a postpartum woman. Like, just do whatever she says. Like, seriously, give her money, don't give her money, like do whatever she fucking says. And the disillusion of their relationship, like, I'm sorry, it is disgraceful when you have a 4-month-old. And I'm just, um, like, I, I, I, I'm mad at both of them, but like, I can't be mad at her, she's postpartum. Like, do whatever you want.

01:00:22

Yeah, I saw a clip, especially because I don't know what happened between them, right? Like, what, what he was doing, like what it was Maybe he was around and wanting to be around, but it was not a good, not a good scene. Yeah. You know, I saw a clip of them having said that, like on their first date, like she said, like, you're gonna be the father of my children.

01:00:37

I hate, like when people, like people in Hollywood are just like, they're just not real people. Like I can't say that we should talk about them as much as we do. Like we should really change subjects.

01:00:45

Like, no, they're insane. But like, so that part came true. Yeah. So, but so did they also like not, what are you not saying? Like, no, like I just don't understand.

01:00:56

And also, is there gonna be more kids?

01:00:56

Like, oh God, no.

01:00:59

Please.

01:00:59

Like, I don't know, I don't— I just don't understand this situation because they seem so happy and they were excited about this and excited about Peyton. I was excited.

01:01:06

And even though it's hard, you know, it's very hard, maybe it's just like so much harder than they thought it would be. Like, I don't know what—

01:01:11

but then it's harder to do it alone, of course.

01:01:14

And I don't know what could have happened between two people, famous or not, like, who were like in love up until recently. What could have happened to make you separate when you have a 4-month-old?

01:01:24

Like, but then also, and I'm— I give a postpartum new mama a crazy— but then she posted on her Instagram story, like, yeah, this was weird, trying to find a nanny, mother's helper, assistant type on her Instagram, through Instagram, wants people to reach out to her email address to apply to be her nanny.

01:01:41

And I just want to be clear that, like, a nanny, a mother's helper, an assistant are three different people. Like, you can't have an assistant who's also a nanny. Like, that's not the same. No. Like, are you looking for a work assistant? Are you looking for someone to help with the baby or to help you? You're looking for a nurse? Yeah, like, what are you looking for?

01:01:54

Yeah, those are two separate things.

01:01:56

Yeah, and you're not going to find it on Instagram. No, posting to—

01:02:00

for that on Instagram is the worst.

01:02:02

With your child, you're going to let a stranger from the internet come help with like your famous baby?

01:02:06

Yeah, right, right. Is the worst idea I've ever heard, ever.

01:02:10

Like, and this is where like where you're a celebrity, you have access to these like staffing companies and agencies who can help you find a nanny. So like, I don't know, you're— it is such an— what she is accusing him of is like so evil that yes, it's not Congress, he's not the best guy ever, but he's, as far as we know, not an evil person. So to leave your baby mama when you are, yeah, like you said, of means high and dry with no money, no help, no food. Thank God, you know, she has a Bobby partnership. Hopefully they're sending her formula, you know, like, and also like, who is she before this? Does she, is she nepo dating before this? She did like Seth Rogen or something. She dated someone like, like rando. Yeah, someone big.

01:02:48

And what was she— how did she meet these guys? Because she was— she famous?

01:02:51

I think she's like a nepo. She dated Jason Sudeikis, um, and Betty Blanco and Ryan Phillippe. Okay. And let me just Google Elsie Hewitt job, like what does she do?

01:03:03

I feel like she might be a model, or she's a model, an actress, or an influencer. She's a model, actor—

01:03:08

she's a model, actress, and social media influencer. She's well known for her roles in Industry and Dave. All right, so by the way, and those are— and major campaigns with Yes, that's what she's known for. I think she was discovered in like a Guess campaign. Okay, cool. And then she was named Playboy's Miss June in 2017.

01:03:23

Wait, here's a little video coming up. Who is Halsey Hewitt? 3 things to know. One, she shares a daughter with ex-boyfriend Pete Davidson. Okay, next. Oh, it's filled with like quotes. Hold on, it's a little package People magazine made. She's a model and actress. She moved to LA at age 10. She modeled for brands like Guess and was Playboy's— so yes, exactly like you said.

01:03:49

Thank you so much.

01:03:50

Yes, they obviously— was in a 2018 Guess series called Turnt. Also, number 3, she's a foodie.

01:03:58

Elsie eats.

01:04:00

Yeah, yeah, she likes food. That's unique.

01:04:03

Yeah, a lot of her content like is giving manic, but postpartum is sort of a manic time, and I just—

01:04:08

and the internet responds to mania. Yeah, they do, and they encourage it too.

01:04:12

They enable kill it. So I just really hope she's doing well, and I hope she finds a nanny or a nurse or whatever. And I hope Pete comes through with like a bag of money. Yeah, um, just like give money.

01:04:21

Give money.

01:04:22

Like, if you can't give your heart, you can't give your time, you can't give your energy, you bitch, just give money.

01:04:26

I just want to say, back to Kelsey, back to Kelsey, because when she was saying— Kelsey from Real Housewives of Rhode Island.

01:04:32

I'm like, her name is Elsie?

01:04:35

Real Housewives of Rhode Island. How her man is like paying for her like rent and like helping her with like utilities he's— even though she's like broken up with him and moved out and like 2 years ago tarnishing him on television and like has a new boyfriend.

01:04:45

He said on Watch What Happens Live he loves the show so much and he wishes that— he obviously— he— Andy said he gave the production zero, um, approvals on using his photo, his name, anything. Um, but Kelsey says he loves the show now.

01:04:56

That's so cute. I just want to say like she's really got it made in the shade for herself. Like, and the fact that she's got this guy like paying her bills after they broke up, and she said like, if we were married 10 years, I'd have something. So like, why not I get a little something even though I've just been the girlfriend. And the fact that like she's literally in the show having a boyfriend, like while she has a boyfriend, she's like considering her options like under his roof.

01:05:17

I just— But she's not and she never was. Like this is all fake and she's a concubine.

01:05:20

'Cause I would be like worried you'd get kicked out of the house for like being with another guy at the polo match. Yeah. But she really, she must be so fabulous that her boy, her OG boyfriend like doesn't, you know, he just wants to help her and support her. Love her.

01:05:35

Is concubine like a slur?

01:05:38

I think it's like—

01:05:41

yeah, no, I know what it means. Like, I think it's like the word whore. Yeah, okay, I mean, if the shoe fits. Like, and shout out to Margaret Josephs for teaching me that word. Who did she call a concubine? Jennifer Aydin. Oh yeah, but that was a stretch. Jennifer Aydin has 6 children with the man, so like, oh right, she doesn't work, like that's fine. I kind of feel like Kelsey's sort of textbook.

01:05:58

Yeah, no, sure, maybe she's a concubine. I just feel like that word— and you say she doesn't have a job.

01:06:03

That's the definition of a concubine. That's her job.

01:06:06

Yeah, that's her job. But I also want to know, like, what was she doing in that house for 8 years without a job?

01:06:11

Well, she was really technically in it for 4 years because the other, like, 50% of the time—

01:06:16

no, no, but she was still in the house.

01:06:18

Yeah, but she was in the house with the owner of the house and, like, living a full life.

01:06:21

No, with the 50% when he was there, I understand what you're doing. Yeah, you are working.

01:06:24

So the cumulative 4 years, like, what was she doing living there alone? Yeah, what—

01:06:28

how was she filling her days?

01:06:30

I mean, I definitely— it's lonely in the palace.

01:06:32

Like, she wasn't on the show, she wasn't running a business, she wasn't doing anything.

01:06:36

Like, what was she doing? And that was probably her biggest mistake, was like not using those 8 years to like build something that she could walk away with.

01:06:42

Yeah, like, you literally had 8 years, like, squirreling away a little money.

01:06:45

I don't get the sense that she was. You don't think she was squirreling? No.

01:06:49

I hope that she was, but it seems like money just, you know, people just give her money.

01:06:52

Yeah, she's just one of those girls, like, where it appears like, I wish I had a dollar.

01:06:58

'Cause I was worried, of course, like you have to leave the mansion. I'm gonna have to get like a condo or something, a job and how you gonna, and she's just like, he's giving her money. Yeah. And I just think it takes a special kind of woman to get that.

01:07:09

You're so wrapped up in the pretty privilege. Like it's insane.

01:07:11

No, I think, I think she's one of the best to do it. To be beautiful? To, yeah. Like some people like have a, a rich boyfriend, sugar daddy, and the minute they disrespect them, they're out on their ear. Yeah. Yeah.

01:07:22

Yeah. Like, like literally some people, their husbands, like Lisa Hochstein, she gets thrown out. She has two kids with the man.

01:07:28

Alicia's not even on the deed for her house. That's really crazy that she has, like— and so Kelsey really got herself set up nicely. Yes, yes. So credit to her. You're so toxic. Why? You just are. Why?

01:07:41

I hate disagreeing with you.

01:07:43

Like, I just hate it. No, and your criticisms are very valid. I know, but I want to focus on the positive. I don't want to fight. No, I don't want to fight either, but I can't believe you like Rosie.

01:07:54

No, I, I know because it's incongruous with me. She's so crazy weird, like, but I just feel like that's how right she is and that's how mean everyone's being.

01:08:01

Okay, even though I feel like she's not wrong in this situation, I don't think she's so right. I think because also, like, what if she is not being— hasn't been genuine this entire time?

01:08:11

Well, I need that to be proven. I need her, like, I need the blueprints to the house. Like, I need someone to be, like, showing me. Like, you can't just say she's lying about adding 5,000 square feet. And then Kelsey was like, it's less than that.

01:08:20

It's like, okay, you don't even have a house. Yeah, but like if she's going around saying like 8,000 square feet, 8,000 square feet, and it's not, like, well, what is it?

01:08:28

Yeah. And now, by the way, I hope she's updated her plans because it has to be. Of course. Like seriously, just put like a garage in. Yeah, right. Finish it. Get it done. A big porch. Yeah, this is giving, um, Real Houses of Atlanta when they were all buying new houses and like lying to each other about like Moore Manor Château Chiray about like they didn't have baseboards. Like, that was seriously so funny. This is what it's giving.

01:08:50

That's funny. Yeah. Well, there you go. That's your show. That's your show.

01:08:55

I think it was a good one. Um, and the place really does look great. It always does. So thank you so much for listening to The Toast on the Monday Morning Show. We deliver the fast stories you need to know every Monday, Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast and where podcasts can be found. So it's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, iHeartRadio, CastBox, all the places where you listen to podcasts. Find us at Toasted with Five Star Review. About how beautiful, stunning, and wickedly talented we are. Have an amazing Monday, and we'll see you tomorrow. Love ya. Bye.

Episode description

1. Call Her Mommy! Alex Cooper Is Pregnant, Expecting Her First Baby with Husband Matt Kaplan (PEOPLE) (21:52)

2. Dina Manzo’s daughter calls Bethenny Frankel a ‘weirdo’ for failing to credit her shoe business (Page Six) (33:53)

3. Jacob Elordi & Kendall Jenner Double Date With Kylie & Timothée Chalamet (Mandatory) (41:12)

4. Tom Brady makes catwalk debut in Gucci fashion show (Page Six) (54:07)

5. Elsie Hewitt Calls Out Pete Davidson After Split as Source Refutes Her Claim He Doesn’t Support Their Daughter (PEOPLE) (58:06)

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