Transcript of JuniorMint and SoccerBabe: Friday, May 8th, 2026 New

Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast 5 things you need to know.

We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Tourist. Happy Friday. Yeah, that's right. I'm singing my own song about Friday. Yay! Yay!

Happy Friday! We did it! We motherfucking did it!

I do feel like it's important to celebrate one's accomplishments, and making it to the end of this particular week, I don't know why, just felt really hard. And so congrats! We— things we all did that— pat yourself on the back, girl!

Today's the last Friday before Mother's Day, so happy Mother's Day to all who are celebrating!

How was your rager last night? You know, I wanted to ask you a question. Okay, I saw you threw a rager and didn't invite me to celebrate Max's half birthday.

Well, I wanted to let everyone know that, like, be— I inspired by our discussion yesterday about like half cakes for the 6-month birthday. I decided to do it because I was like cooking dinner, and whenever I cook dinner, I like invite the Shapiros, and then I'm like, and let's have a half cake for— oh, we're having a party, we're having a party. So we did it, it was so cute.

And I wanted to ask a logistical question because I saw that, of course, because you're a queen, you had a Carvel cake, which If you're inviting me to a party and the cake is not Carvel, like seriously, don't invite me because I'm not coming. Those things are so fucking hard to cut. How did you cut the whole thing in half?

I wet the knife with warm water. Cutting it in half—

Yeah, I do that too. It doesn't really help.

The cut in half was so easy. I actually, when I envisioned the cake, I actually was not envisioning a Carvel cake, but I sent Zach out and he always buys Carvel cake because he knows—

That's my king right there.

That's what I want to see. Um, but I was expecting like— ice cream is just, you know, and then Max needed a bath and we were like sort of waiting. And you know, it wasn't the ideal cake, but it was totally tasty. The other kids loved it. They were like, I don't know what we're celebrating, but yum!

Let me tell you, there's not a more delicious treat. There's not a more delicious treat. They don't make treats better than that.

Yeah, it was really fun and special. I'm glad that we did it to commemorate 6 months of Maxi. Yeah, 6 months of me being a mother of 3.

And Mother's Day.

And then Mother's Day, my first Mother's Day as a mother of 3.

My first Mother's Day, period. We actually recorded a fabulous Patreon episode yesterday themed— you know, we love a theme over at Patreon— and since it is the week of Mother's Day, we decided to do a Mother's Day Q&A talking all about, you know, the nitty-gritty, you know, products, but then also like, you know, the big stuff. How has motherhood changed you? Feelings. Yeah, thesis on motherhood.

Big Little Feelings.

Matrescence.

Matrescence. Yes, it's really good. And the comments are saying like whether or not you're a mother that you can still enjoy the episode.

Yes, I heard the girls who don't have kids were living for the episode. That's just what I heard.

That's what I heard too. Um, speaking of episodes, also Redheads is out and I would say this is a great—

I don't know if I can listen to it.

This is a good Redheads episode even if like you don't read, you didn't read the book. Like it's actually just us having fun and like talking shit and I think everyone would enjoy it. Um, so if you're looking for something to listen to this weekend, like, check out the Redheads episode 8, girl. Check it out.

You know what, I might be, because I'm going on my trip. I packed me and Ben's books. So Ben's still reading Remarkably Bright Creatures.

I think it already came out on Netflix.

Who cares? Sally Field has been doing so much press, I'm sure. Is she in our Fast Five today?

No.

Oh, she's kind of like whirlwind press tour. Did you see the story she told about Robin Williams?

I did, but I feel like we hit our Sally Field quota this week talking about Not Without My Daughter.

Oh, that wasn't this week, that was last week actually. So the quote is sure positive. I was actually just watching the clip of that, it was from Friday.

Oh wow, this week flew by.

Yeah, not really. Um, what was I saying? Sally Field. Oh, I packed your books, so I will be beginning hopefully if I have time. I feel like I'm not gonna have any time. Stranger Is Bel Burden.

Oh, and I meant to say, in the episode of Redheads, Rebecca and I recap Stranger Is Bel Burden because we both read it And I'm like, I can't recap it on The Toast because Claudia like says she's gonna—

right, it's not a safe space.

She's like, yeah, so I'm just in this purgatory. So let's recap it over on Redheads. So if you want a little Stranger's Bell Burden recap, head over to Redheads.

Well, good, because I think the place that you should recap your books is the book podcast that you hold.

We— oh, whoa, whoa, we always do.

No, you're acting like, like you can't talk about it because of me. Like, no, you should save it for your book podcast.

Anyway, we've been meaning to recap that book here, but We are all waiting for you to read it.

Well, I don't have a lot of hope that I'm gonna finish it this weekend. Like, it's just, you know, I feel like I'm not gonna have a lot of me time.

Oh, because you'll have re-time.

Yeah, and it's like we're taking a family trip and then like we're going to the Knicks game.

Like, he takes a big nap.

I heard Kylie's gonna be there. The thing about the Knicks games in Philly, which this is now for some reason my second Knicks game in Philly for the playoffs, Um, is that it's usually just like MSG because everybody just drives up. It's like not fair, they don't even get home court advantage.

Do they not have a lot of fans?

No, they do, but you know, like New Yorkers, this is literally all we have to live for.

Yeah, but they could also as easily come to MSG, they could drive down.

Yeah, but you know, like they're not coming to our house.

It's a two-way highway.

And you know how I feel about Philly sports fans, let's not go there.

Yeah, well, so then that's good that you don't have to encounter that many of them.

Correct.

Yeah.

Um, you watched Beverly Hills Housewives?

I did not because I was co-sleeping my way through life and I took the W and went to sleep at 8:30 with the boys.

Pargi, it was just as you would expect. No resolution, like some funny Kathy moments. Jennifer Tilly is in the World Series of Poker. I think I knew that on like a subconscious level, but like Not in a real way. She's so dynamic.

I thought I got the gist. I got the gist. No, then we won't like her anymore. I got the gist from the first two episodes. I'll probably watch the third at some point, but it didn't feel like need to watch television. And I was like, no, I have to pretend to fall asleep with them. And what if I just went to sleep at 8:30?

It was a wise decision. Uh, it was, it was so unremarkable, and it was very much like echoing the same sentiments. No conversations were had that weren't had in part one and two.

Yeah, like, I got the gist. I, I'm, I'm abreast. Thank you.

Yeah, although I will say overall, like, it wasn't an amazing look for Boze. I think she's had— she didn't have a bad second season by any means, cuz—

no, not bad.

I still ride for her, but like, it wasn't a perfect second season, and she had a perfect first season.

It's impossible to do both, it really is. So as long as she didn't like have such a slump—

yeah. And I will say, as an Ateetah apologists, it was like painful to watch. Like, I just wanted to shake her. It's the same thing I said last week. Like, I think overall she's right, But so much of her decisions, like, I just don't agree with. And her demeanor, like, yeah, just apologize for stuff big or small. Like, she can't own anything, and that's— it's starting to get annoying.

Just apologize for some things. Not everything, not most things, but like once in a while apologize. It's very refreshing.

Yeah. And I think I said this last week, but it happened again on last night's episode. That's, I think, one of the better qualities of Miss Amanda Francis. She apologized again last night for something, even though right before that she was like begging Bose for an apology and Bose wouldn't. And then she gave one. Like, I, I actually really appreciate people who can just be like, oh yeah, Sorry about that.

As long as they mean it.

Even if they don't, like, sometimes people just need an apology and you can't move on until it's so fine.

Yeah, but like, then don't just like do stuff and apologize and you're like Ramona Singer.

Like, oh no, you can't be like doing apologizing, doing apologizing. That's the worst type of friend, right?

Right. It's a balance, a healthy balance, and we do need to see genuine authenticity.

I love that. I did the craziest thing this morning while packing for my trip. What? I was like changing purses, so I was taking out like the neat things, like, you know, wallet, keys, and I had my mahjong card and I was like, yeah, like, what if— like, what if I run into a game and I don't have my card on me? So I brought my card. Is that weird?

You're not gonna run into a game, but it's good to have your card on you at all times because you just—

why wouldn't somebody else at the hotel be like posted up. Yeah, I guess it's Mother's Day, so like there's not like a girls trip going on. And if there was a girls trip, there would be like 4 girls playing mahjong. But you never know when somebody needs you to tap in.

So, so yeah, you'll be ready.

Yeah.

I did something crazy last night as well.

What did you do that was crazy?

I don't think you'll guess, but I think it's pretty crazy. I used Real Activist.

That is so funny that you said that. I packed Real Activist because I needed a face cleanser.

Yeah, I ran out of Neutrogena wipes, and so I used the Rael that I had of the makeup removing balm.

That's what I packed.

Yeah. And I found a way to do it that works for me, which is to do it in the shower.

Uh-huh.

So like I put it on my skin dry, like rubbed it all around, washed it off in the shower. No, I did that in the shower and then hit my face in the water.

Smart.

Wash it off. And I was like, there's no way all my makeup is off. Let me tell you, I was squeaky clean and like my skin felt pretty good.

Oh my God, okay, I'm going to use the same product this weekend and I'll let you know. But I'm sure it's great. I've heard actually very good things. And you know, with an influencer brand, if there is ever any like negative feedback, it's so outsized, like, because people love to like make a video about it more so than they would like Sarah V.

So I've heard good things too. I just thought it would miss me because my particular skin concerns are not the same as Lix's. And the balm is for everyone, but I'm not a balm girl. But all of a sudden I'm a balm girl in the shower.

Okay, I love that. We're so simpatico.

So simpatico. Ran out of our wipes at the same time. Yes, I got real.

And did you feel real?

No, I felt real.

That should be their slogan, like, don't feel real, feel real.

I don't know why her YouTube series isn't spelled like Get Real With Me. I have to imagine it would have been such a cute Easter egg for the brand, no?

Yeah. Oh, you mean at first?

Yeah, like when she launched her series Get Real With Me and there wasn't that—

she might not have known that Reali was like down coming down the pipe. Actually, no, she said she's been working on—

she might not have known that Reali was really happening.

Yeah, right. I'm literally physically unable to say Real actives. Oh, real activities.

What's that mean? The Drake meme? Real actives.

The Drake, yeah. Real activities. Yeah, yeah, real activities.

So if I'm looking extra shiny today, it's because of that and because I did a little spray tan, which was like not the move. I didn't know I was going to be cold sleeping, so I'm like, I hope I'm not getting tan. Sticky.

Yeah, right, right. That's definitely gonna be a part of my future as like somebody who refuses be pale and somebody who is like extremely affectionate. Um, so I guess I should just start doing like more organic products.

Yeah, I was wearing my Beats by Dre—

your Beauty by Beats, my Beauty by Beats, Beauty by Earth, uh, tanner.

So it was less so about the chemicals, more about like they're— it's going to transfer.

Beats Beauty.

Um, but I thought Zach was going to get them down, but no dice. Nah, nah.

It is what it is. You listen to any of the new Kacey Musgraves album?

I don't want to say, uh, yeah, because it's just not hitting for me. But I do see that it's hitting for Margot Lashley, so it, it's hittable. Different strokes, it's hittable.

I've listened a little bit, not enough to make a general consensus, but I wasn't like, you know, inject this into my veins.

Mm-hmm.

New Harry Styles music video, it's more like turn this racket off. You're really embracing your like 30s.

I had meat defrosting.

Turn that racket down!

I had meat defrosting last night in the sink. I was—

oh, were you okay?

I was losing my mind with the sink running.

Jackie's personal audio trigger.

Uh-huh.

For me it's like Ben's throat clearing. For Jackie it's the sink running. Yeah. But is it like the kitchen sink in particular?

There's nothing wrong, it's just like the sink, it's so loud.

It's like white noise. You should be used to that with all them kids.

No, it's so loud. Also, even the white noise machines, the moment we wake up I turn them off. Like, people leave them on like every time. Like, you know, you just take your kids up and you go about your day, forget about the machine.

Oh, interesting. I don't. Off.

Turn that racket back off.

I actually find the noise machine like so fucking annoying.

Yeah, yeah.

So what else can I tell you?

You excited for your big weekend?

I am.

I'm excited to hear about it.

I just want to like say how unfair it is.

I don't know why we're like dilly-dallying when like we actually have shit to do.

We're recording at 6 in the morning, we're on the clock. Like, yeah, looking for shit to talk about. Like, it's literally— we literally have 5 things that we like have to talk about.

It's been almost 15 minutes and we have a lot to do, plus clean Queenie and Weenie, which I am actually eager to get to, 'cause you think we have the same Queenie, and I don't think that we do.

Well, if we don't have the same Queenie, then you're just not the girl that I thought you were, honestly.

Really? I love my Queenie though. I feel really good about it, but I do feel like I sort of went out of the box.

Okay, you know what, I love that.

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Her first story: Taylor and Travis are in London taking in the sites and taking in the show starring Sadie Sink.

So— oh, I didn't know that. I thought they were— I, I saw them photographed like out with this like famous cinematographer. It's giving wedding videographer, like—

oh, well, they went to see Romeo and Juliet starring Sadie Sink.

Oh, so cute. I love the Sadie Sink friendship.

Yeah, it's very wholesome.

I saw a clip weirdly of Sadie Sink. I just assumed it was Broadway. I forgot like about the West End. And, uh, People are like dying over her performance.

I'm sure she's amazing.

She's such a good actress. That movie, The Fucking Whale, that was insane.

Yeah, that movie. All Too Well, 10-minute version.

Oh, chilling. So good. When people talk about Sadie Sink, they're probably like referring to Stranger Things. Never seen a minute of it.

I know her from her work in the All Too Well 10-minute music video, and I know her because like for the redheads, we always like put her in everything for Hollywood treatment. 'Cause every book like starts a redhead and we're like, Sadie Sink.

But she's also like, if you've seen The Whale, which I hope you haven't, she is a chameleon. Like she really can be anything.

Yeah, yeah. So now she's Juliet in Romeo and Juliet, which—

And did the twin flame bruise paint you blue? Just between us, did the love affair maim you too? Oh, in Taylor's Songwriter of the Year New York Times interview, she talked about All Too Well 10-minute version and like the concept of vault songs, about how like with All Too Well she had to go back into like this journal to find all the verses that she had written when she was releasing 10-minute version. Cuz at the time I remember people were like, there's no way that this like 20-year-old girl did the twin flame bruise paint you blue. And It was quite a controversial thing to say at the time, but Taylor pretty much confirmed that, like, yes, you know, there were— the journals were a little damaged, or I couldn't read what I had written. So she sort of, you know, improvised the whole thing, or just edited parts? Part— like, I'm sure it was a combination of both.

Like, why does she have to be true to the journals? Why can't she put out the best song possible?

I know nobody wants to hear this, but I feel that way. The way people feel about All Too Well, being like, she definitely didn't write that at the time. I feel like she actually could have, because the song All Too Well, the version she released back then, was actually like incredibly deep. And like, yeah, I could see, I could see her having written it. I think the vault song Nothing New, like, there's no— there's just no way. It's so introspective and so self-aware about how, like, she's— what is she, 19 at the time? And the whole song is worrying about how, like, the industry is going to be done with her. Will they still want me when I'm nothing new? I've had too much to drink tonight. Like, I'm just telling you, she was drinking at 19. I'm just telling you, she wrote that song last year. Like, I'm sorry, that's one of my great, like, big theories.

Oh, that doesn't bother me if true. Like, put out the best piece of work, you know?

No, of course. And like, that probably is how you felt at the time. I don't think maybe you wrote it or even subconsciously, like, knew that that's how you felt, but I feel like it's reflective of the red era where she was at in her life.

Yeah. Yeah, my concern would just be like writing songs like cosplaying as that time in your life and like trying to get back to that headspace, like they wouldn't be that good would be my concern.

But if they're good, they're good. Yeah, no, I feel like the Vault songs stood the test of time. Some are better than others. The 1989s are some of the best.

Yeah, 1989s are the best, period. You know I don't really fuck with Vault songs. I know I have my own hangups about them. 1989 Vault songs, it's actually insane.

Like, and I do believe that the Vault songs from 1989 were left off of the record. Like, I do believe that there So many bops. Yes, it's insane though that like some of that— Suburban Legends is like one of the best songs ever written and you didn't even release it. Like, that's fucking crazy. But that's also how I feel about New Romantics. New Romantics was a song from 1989 that was only available on the version if you bought it at Target.

Like, she had a surplus of great songs at the time.

Yes. So I believe that, but I think that the vault songs from debut are like—

which is just so crazy that then Shake It Off the lead single, but okay. I don't get me started on Taylor Swift's lead single, even though like Shake It Off has— I've done a complete 180 on Shake It Off. It's one of my favorite songs now.

It has withstood the test. It is a timeless song.

It just ages better and better and better.

Absolutely.

It's crazy.

But the debut Vault songs, I don't know if people are ready for this conversation, are not good.

I don't need to hear from a 12-year-old girl right now. Like I'm old.

Oh, sorry, not debut. She never really debuted. Fearless.

I don't need to hear from a 15-year-old right now. I would go listen, you know what I mean? Like, that's how I feel about old songs. They meant something to me when I was that age, but now I don't need to go listen to me— like, the feelings of a teenager. I, I don't relate.

Right, right. That's beautiful, actually.

I, I feel that, you know.

They— I do. Back to Taylor and Travis in London. So it's nice that they went to see Sadie Sink. Like, love to see women supporting women in the arts.

And that's like a major good move from a friend, you know, you crossed the sea to come see my show.

So I feel like she crossed the sea and saw the show, like she didn't cross the sea to see the show.

I don't care how it happened, that's a good-ass friend.

It's a good-ass friend, like coming to my play.

She might have heard the allegations that we thought she might be the problem in her friendship, right?

Right. No, but I also think Taylor is intent on taking her power back from the UK because it's definitely like It's definitely filled with landmines for her. You know, I love a London boy, I enjoy. And so to come back there with like her big football boyfriend, and I'm talking football with you, uh, yeah, I'm talking football with your hands, not with your feet. I just know it felt good. Like, they're so American. I feel like for a while she was sort of like running away from her American identity, don't you find?

Yeah.

And like with her Stella McCartney collab, and she loves the London boy, and I feel like she was like living in London for a lot of the times that we didn't see her. And now she's like the face of America.

She's proud to be an American.

Her big boyfriend who plays football with an O. Husband with an H. Neither. Literally neither. We're both wrong.

That's her husband.

I know, I need them to get married already. Like, I'm sick.

2 months.

Yeah, I've, I've been hearing such conflicting reports about their weddings from people who are genuinely in the know. Nobody knows where this wedding is. It's either, according to my sources, the Hamptons or New York, or the city. The, the fact that it would be in the city makes no sense to me, but that seems to be the leading—

the city makes more sense than the Hamptons.

The Hamptons, you have space.

Like, the Hamptons makes no sense.

Where is she gonna get married in the city? Like, seriously, at the Plaza?

Perhaps.

I think she's gonna get married at the Park Avenue Armory. Actually, I just want to put that out there. I feel like that's where she's getting married. Because it's literally a fortress. If you've ever— you— it looks like— I think it is like an army base in the middle of the city. But like, they had the Victoria's Secret fashion show there one year, so you could just like make it whatever you want. And it's a fortress. Like, there are no doors. There's literally one door.

Nowhere for her to get married in the city that's not like— I don't want to say corny, but just like done.

There's an element— I mean, we only say that because we're from New York and most of the weddings we've been to are from here. I think if you're not from here, it's like, it's very exciting and it's very like classic New York, what we might consider corny.

Yeah, no, it's just like, like, Cipriani is not corny, but it's like done, you know?

She's not getting married to Cipriani. I'm telling you, she's getting married.

I think she's going to get married at like a very old church, St. Patrick's Cathedral.

But like, then it's a spectacle. Do you know how many people are out standing outside those churches on a Wednesday? They're like tourist destinations.

I think it's going to be something like that. That's my guess.

I see people getting married at St. Patrick's Cathedral all the time. It's actually so cute.

Even if she got married at like the Met It's like, it's not original. The Met, it's not original for her.

By the way, it is original.

Not for her. She has to get married somewhere no one's got married before.

Or I, I want to say quite literally 4 people have gotten married at the Met. It is impossible to do.

No, I know, but like, she's— so she's not one of 4, she's one of one.

I don't know, I think she could be one of 4. It's really not that big of a deal. And it's not like Beyoncé got married.

Public library.

Okay, the New York Public Library is where everyone gets married. It's an actual wedding venue. Like, anyone can book it if you have the money. The Met, even if you have the money, you can't get married there unless you're like hella connected.

Museum of Natural History, similar.

But I don't see—

she doesn't have a side girl. That's what I mean, I don't see it. Where the fuck is she getting married?

Like, it's killing me. Cuz the city— unless this rumor is just like a cover-up and everyone's kind of like a Carolyn Bessette, they like went you know, to the middle of the woods.

Mhm.

Maybe this is just a cover-up.

I think, and I hope so, because it makes no sense. And the Hamptons makes less sense.

Not only does it make no sense, even though Taylor like lives here a lot of the time, and I think she loves New York, it's like so not a part of their story either. Actually, maybe it is in a way that we don't know.

Maybe it is in a way that we don't know.

I'm so excited for this wedding. And like, oh, it's so funny, I was doing a Q&A the other day and I got it so many times that I had to answer it. People were like, are you taking off this summer? We never take off the summer. You guys had a baby. Like, I'm like, yeah, don't worry, we're doing Daily Shows. And everybody was like, thank God, we always do.

They miss us, Claude.

I know, it's nice to be missed.

Yeah, no, we'll be on this summer, live from the Hamptons.

And I feel like there's going to be a lot going down this summer, like with the wedding and stuff. So we have— we couldn't miss it. I wouldn't miss it for the world.

Our next story, Zoe Kravitz is calling out Hulu for their tacky tweet.

Okay, I saw this.

So Zoe Kravitz tweeted back at Hulu. Hulu tweeted about a show that I guess Zoe's in, and she was in, and like was canceled.

It's like a one-season wonder.

Yeah, she plays a character called Robin Brooks. They said Robin Brooks definitely has a Kiss All the Time disco occasionally on her playlist. It was alongside a photo of her um, from the show. High Fidelity is the show. And then she responded saying, this is tacky, @Hulu.

High Fidelity is the show.

That sounds familiar.

It does, but I'm thinking High Fidelity, Hulu. Oh yeah, it was like, I guess she was the star of the show. I'm thinking of that show with that girl from, um, whatever. Um, so it's not an active show. I don't know why they would be promoting it.

So they are like, start like, you know, why can't they promote shit that's on their thing?

Well, they can, yes, but they're just like being buzzy, and I don't know why that's bad. I, I think this is an overreaction from her, especially like, she's never really publicly commenting on stuff in general.

And like, you're engaged to the man, they can say you like his music, like it Relax.

Yeah, I agree. Unclench.

It's sort of like, you know, every time when Taylor Swift used to be like, Jackie, I was just thinking of Ginny and Georgia. Yeah, like, this has always been hanging out with Taylor too much. Like, oh, for sure. Like, people aren't— I don't want to say make a joke about you, make a reference about you and your relationship.

They said that you like your fiancé, and they're over here promoting your fiancé's music, and Lord knows he could use the promo.

It's actually very cute. I don't think that it's tacky at all. I'm sure, like, the Hulu social media manager is having a really bad day, and I just want to say, like, I don't think you did anything wrong.

Justice for the 22-year-old girl who's running the Hulu account. Like, seriously, you did nothing wrong. Your heart was in the right place. You sound like you're really good at your job, and seriously, just, just move on. She's— it's, it's a gross overreaction.

It's a gross— and also, like, it being tacky, like, is social media not meant to be tacky? Is it the most refined place on Earth?

I just want to say, like, tacky? Like, girl, you're an actress. Like, What's, what's tacky?

I don't, I don't know. I, I just, it doesn't hit for me.

No, I agree.

It's the perfect comparison when Taylor Swift was like, they were actually saying some mean shit about her.

Sexist. It was like sexist and it was, it was like really a just an old joke. Like, she has so many boyfriends. It's like, we've really evolved from that.

Yeah.

Um, but I would like, she wasn't wrong to be upset, but like, girl, you're so much bigger than this moronic show that 3 people watch. Like, you're giving it, making it bigger. Was how I felt. And same with this, like, except there, there's nothing insulting about this. No, it's sweet.

Whereas at least Ginny and Georgia, like, Taylor Swift might have been watching the show on her own and then she like stumbles upon this, like, but you know what, that's like when I'm scrolling TikTok and then I end up on like a hate video about us.

I'm like, oh my God, how did I get here?

Yeah, then it's like, but you don't mention it because you don't want to make it bigger.

Of course.

Um, so I just— this is a miss for me.

Sorry. Yeah, agreed. Uh, especially for someone who like doesn't speak out ever.

Yeah, yeah. And it's like, cute, that's your fiancé.

And I just think like a huge account posting about your fiancé's new music when it seems like really nobody's talking about it, I just would be grateful for the promo, honestly.

Are you ready for our next story? I am. Some baby news. James Kennedy is expecting a baby with his new girlfriend. Vanderpump Rules star James Kennedy is expecting his first child. Sources with direct knowledge told TMZ that the DJ and his leading lady, who out of the public eye, are about to become parents. The couple have been dating for around 7 months. Oh, um, well, he didn't break up with Allie that long ago, right?

Parenthood is a beautiful thing. I hope he's in the right headspace for it. I really feel like we don't know James Kennedy. Like, even when he was on TV, I feel like he was always lying to us. Like, I don't— I honestly don't know anything about him. I don't know where he's at now, especially having been off TV for 2 years. I don't know what sort of headspace— I don't know where he's at with sobriety. Like, I just wish— I wish them the best.

I really do. I wish them the best.

Um, a baby is a blessing.

I wonder if they'll try and be on The Valley now.

Do you think he impregnated his girlfriend so he could be on The Valley? Because like, being in a relationship and like, and having kids— not— yeah, I guess everyone there has kids.

Like, one or the other.

I would say actually having kids is more, uh, than, than having a partner is more of a requirement. Yeah. Or like being TTC.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, I don't think he did it too good out in the Valley, but I don't— I think that now that he's having a child, like, he might be calling up Valley producers.

You know, actually, when I was doing my— I was scrolling in the tub last night, I was scrolling TikTok, and I saw actually a really beautiful cover. Ellie Luber, she was singing—

what was she saying?

I don't know, maybe like Olivia Rodrigo. She was kind of good. Like, I enjoyed the COVID and she was playing the piano too.

Oh wow.

Yeah, and I know she plays guitar because I've seen her guitar in it up. Guitar Gal, you know, that was one of my, uh, like, screen names back in the AIM days.

You were such a Guitar Gal.

Why? We were like seriously changing our usernames like on an annual basis, maybe more. I had so many. Guitar Gal.

I'm sure that's what the kids are doing like now on Instagram. I'm sure they change their username.

Yeah, I guess. I had Guitar Gal. I had, um, Vega Babe. That was like when I was obsessed with my camp identity. And I had a bunch, of course, Junior Mint.

We love Junior Mint.

When it was— that was my first screen name. And when we were all— I remember it was like a family activity, like, let's think of what Claudia loves. And it was kind of like a big secret of mine.

You didn't like them.

I, by the way, Do you think I would like a Junior Mint? They're like York Patties.

I hate mint candy. I just feel like you don't love Junior Mints, you are Junior Mint.

Yeah, but it became my identity, and like, I didn't even like them.

It's like a cute nickname, like Junior Mint. Hey, little Junior Mint.

Like, it was just—

and you know, your first grade name—

they're disgusting.

They're like miniature Yorkshire Patties.

Exactly. Yes, Yorkshire.

I love Yorkshire.

The worst candies ever.

Oh, I love—

I have never liked them, let alone as a child. So I think— I feel like when we were making my screen name, we had just went to the movies and like maybe I ate a Junior Mint cuz like I'm bad.

We never let you live it down.

And you never fucking let me live it down.

Margot should have been Cream Saver, literally.

What was your screen name? I feel like— let me— was it Soccer Babe?

So many. I had so many.

Was it like soccerbabe92?

Oh, for sure. No, not that, but also I don't want to be like giving away my email addresses.

Oh, do you still actively use soccerbabe? Yes, I do. Was that what it was?

I don't know if it was babe.

Yeah, like soccer girl.

Maybe girl, GRL.

I don't think Olivia was— Olivia actually had a good one, livylove. Livylove, L-I-V-I-L-O-V. That was sick. Yeah, she's so cool. Oh, Satchel.

Candy Cutie.

I— wait, oh wait, I think S still uses that email.

I think so too.

She's so cute.

She's so cute. Um, okay, let's move on to our next story because I want to get to Queenie and Weenie today.

4. She wants to get to Queenie and Weenie today. Did you guys hear that? He said, do you have like a renewed interest and love in Queenie and Weenie?

No, I just feel like I was I was watching on my feed, and something that's been like a recurring theme this week of a person that I want to highlight as my queenie—

is it Cassie from Euphoria?

No, but I wonder what she's gonna do now, if she's gonna take that hotel room or if she's gonna go back to Nate.

Not— you literally know more about it than I do.

I know.

Oh, I did also see a clip that he's in debt, and he finally told her how much it was for, and it was like over a million dollars.

Yeah. And also then she went to a party in a leopard cat suit and did cocaine off someone's belly button.

Oh, I didn't see that. We will piece together this show by the end of the season. Yeah.

Also, what movie— oh, you know what movie I watched on my phone yesterday?

What?

Lovely Bones.

Oh God. By the way, I have seen that one in clip form.

Yeah.

And that's a movie that should be watched on the big screen if you haven't seen that. Some of Stanley Tucci's finest work.

It's insane.

Saoirse Ronan's debut. Who plays the dad? Matt— Mark Wahlberg.

Is it Mark Wahlberg?

Yeah, it's like he has like a '70s Firefalls in the haircut.

Oh my God, it's insane.

Such a good movie.

Our fourth story: Kelly Clarkson makes a surprising career move after leaving her talk show Page Six. Says abandoning her talk show, like that's fucking rude.

Oh my God, abandoning this? Fuck them.

She is returning to The Voice. She will return as a coach this fall on NBC's The Voice.

Okay, I just like, I'm so curious about her home life. She's so private, but we know she moved to New York when Kelly Clarkson Show moved to New York. I do feel like maybe if they had left her where she was, they would've gotten more years from her. I feel like maybe she didn't like it here.

Yeah. Or maybe it's like hard to be like away from family and what, you know, especially with everything she went through. Like she just sort of wants to go back home. But I guess The Voice films for a short period of time.

It's, I think it's a good job to have at if you're like a, uh, trying to be a present parent because it's like a short, but in LA. But she was in LA before. I think LA is her home.

Oh, okay.

So like, that's what her kids know and like, right where their like school friends are. Yeah, I think because she was doing the voice before that. I don't know why. I feel like she moved away from Nashville when she got divorced, but then he took the house in Montana, right?

I don't know, but I think this is great for The Voice contestants.

I mean, now I need to go on The Voice, like, seriously dream to be mentored by Miss Kelly. Yeah, excuse me, Miss Independent.

Yeah, Miss Self-Sufficient. Self-Sufficient.

Ah, I love her.

So looking forward to that for her. Hopefully, yeah, she's like feeling good and ready to get back to work in whatever way she— she's like the sort that can choose whatever she wants to do, you know.

And I want to say, like, as Kelly Clarkson's, like, probably second biggest fan, I am okay with her ending the show. Like, it's fine.

For sure. Um, I was sort of like rooting for it.

Yeah, I think it opens us up to like more things. I got to watch the Kelly Clarkson Show.

Vegas.

Yeah, tours, new music. Exactly. And, um, I like the voice. I think that you can do a lot of things while being an active voice coach. And we do get those, like, you know, bi-seasonal performances with all the other coaches. So we're going to hear Kelly sing. That's one of my favorite— I've been running down the Road trying to loosen my— when Reba, Niall Horan, John Legend, and Gwen Stefani sang that song. I love when the, the judges get together and make music. Who are the other judges?

Uh, it looks like it is Adam Levine, or maybe this is—

oh, you're kidding!

Actually, it might be an old picture. Sorry.

Oh yeah, because like his new face is not settling in well. He can't be on—

Adam Levine, John Legend.

No, that's definitely old.

Yeah, so I don't know.

Right, I guess like we'll find out. They're always changing it up.

Yeah, that was like when the judges on Masked Singer all sang Golden.

Exactly.

And Rita Ora, she's a judge. Oh, I thought she was the host.

Yeah, I don't know if they made it into my episode, but Rita Ora, when I took my mask off, she said, I love your podcast. And I was like, she's obviously lying. She was like, you hosted with your sister? I was like, yes. My sister, sister. So I'm like a huge Rita Ora fan now. She was like so nice.

There's nothing not to love.

There's nothing not to love. Although I do wish her and Rob Kardashian had worked out.

Yeah, yeah, of course. But she's on to bigger and better things. Can you blame her? Story, Kelly.

Oh, oh, right, right, right.

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Our fifth and final story leading into TV recap: PK Clemsley claims Dorit blew nearly $1 million on designer duds as foreclosure looms. So PK is claiming a new court filing that estranged wife Dorit has spent more than $1 million on designer items even as they face potential foreclosure on their LA home. According to court documents, PK's team investigated how Dorit was spending their money and found she spent $995,000 on wardrobe-related expenses during a 14-month span. In the meticulously detailed docs, PK cites charges of $69,000 each at Louis Vuitton and Chanel, $38,000 at Hermès, $22,000 at Saint Honoré, as well as retailers including Net-a-Porter and Moda Operandi. He also claims, despite the travel and designer item expenses, the reality star failed to make any mortgage payments on their lavish home and made, quote, only one related utility payment during the time period, despite having exclusive use of the residence since April 2024. Meanwhile, PK claims he paid the lion's share of the family's expenses, including both the mortgage and the cost of raising their children.

Okay, I'm just like, I'm not believing everything he said, although I find the, um, $900,000 on designer duds to be quite interesting.

I believe what he said. Like, uh, look at her. Yeah, she looks like a million bucks.

No, but I'm saying like, he's— so he's saying she's not paying for anything that the kids are doing, she's not paying the mortgage. The mortgage is his responsibility. Like, yeah, she may live there, she's taking care of your kids.

No, but it's like, if she spent a million dollars of the family's money on her clothes and you're mad that she didn't pay mortgage from the family's money. It's like, what do you mean? Like the one person who just like did the admin of sending the money? Like, it's the same money.

Oh, I guess. Is it? But is this— this is talking about like post-divorce, right? The post-separation—

$1 million is from December 2024 to March 2026. So that's post-separation. So is that her money or their money?

It's giving their money, so their money should also be paying the mortgage.

So like, just send it off, right?

If you have access to the money to buy clothes, why aren't you also paying the mortgage? Because I think she assumed he was, right?

But if it's, if it's from the same account, like, it doesn't matter who like presses send.

This is just unfortunate because like it does give credence to like what Kyle was saying, but it was never really about Kyle, like the validity of what Kyle was saying. It was just like the manner in which she said it and like the fact that like her Dorit have like a broken friendship.

No, and also if the money's about to run out, like, keep shopping. Well, you're about to get cut off.

That Kelly she bought, assuming she brought it retail, she can sell it for double on The RealReal.

No, and also like one outfit of hers looks like seriously $50,000 minimum. These numbers seem low. $69,000 at Chanel in a 14-month period, that's literally two outfits.

Yeah, no. Her outfits are so crazy.

At least she has what to show for it. I see the money.

I just feel like their finances have been called into question a few times over the years, but the, the rug was really never pulled out from underneath them. I do like think that the divorce probably will be the thing, because even for like financially sound people, a divorce can be crippling.

But it doesn't sound like PK's saying we have no money. It sounds like he's saying like she's spending a lot of money on clothes and stuff, not contributing to the mortgage of the house that she lives in. But it doesn't sound like like there's not money because like, look, she spent a million dollars on clothes in 14 months. That's a moneyed individual. He's not saying we can't pay that bill, right? So I don't really know. And the thing with the house, it's like the house has now over $6 million in mortgage debt. Foreclosure could be imminent. Notices of default have been recorded. PK is asking the court to force a sale, further claiming he'd been making efforts to avoid it. He also claimed Dorit rejected a suggested temporary relocation for Dorit and the children to his own home while he covered expenses. That's the part where I'm like, okay, what's the— what's the other part of the story? Were you living there with your girlfriend? Are you living here?

Right. No, no. And also, like, that's crazy. They're not gonna come live with you in, like, his bachelor pad. But, like, are they poor? I want to say yes.

I don't know. It's like, on context clues, I feel like yes, because I don't know what he does and how he could, like, be so successful.

Like, what— I don't know what he does. He's the former manager of Boy George.

Yeah, but like, it's not giving like, we have $0. It's giving like, I don't want to pay for this big house for you to live in. And she's like, this is the children's family home. You're not uprooting them. We are staying and you're going to pay for it. Which isn't wrong either. Like, if you have the money, pay for the fucking kid's house.

Agreed.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Well, and also, this isn't good because like, last we heard they were on good terms, and now he's like, airing out her net worth.

At the end of the reunion, I was like, what are your— oh, he was like, we're gonna manifest, like, what do you want for this year? And everybody said— and Dorit was like, I really just want to stay in the place that I'm at with PK. Like, we're so good, or like as good as it's gonna get. Also, I just want to stay that way.

There was like a scene this season or last season where like Kyle goes over to Dorit's house and it's like a mess. There's like boxes everywhere, and like every box is like Farfetch, Net-a-Porter, right? No, but it's like, none of this is surprising to me. I'm like, right? I'm like, look at her. Seriously, look at her.

If you know anything about clothes and you see her in one of her looks on a group trip, head to toe jewelry, bags— she wears $100,000 outfits night after night after night. It's actually an insane level for Housewives in general. She is by no means the richest like she's probably one of the poorest on the couch, and she dresses more high-end than, and than Jennifer Tilly, like just based on like logos. Yeah, she's wearing more than Kathy.

Yeah, so I just like wonder what this is trying to prove, because like this is not surprising to me. I would actually say like the figures actually sounds low considering what she looks like every day. Of her life. So what are— what are we— what are you telling me here? I know she didn't pay the mortgage, and I know she spends a lot on clothes. Thank you. The wife looks great. She always does.

She always does. In terms of recapping, um, any other thoughts? It was a repetitive reunion for like a kind of a slow season there. I actually don't really have that much else to share.

Okay. Let's get into Queenie and Meanie. I need to know who yours is.

Okay, Queenie of the Week and Meanie of the Week, a segment we love to end our weeks with here on Fridays at The Toast. It's just a good way to take a look back at the week at a glance and just give out awards to people who deserve it.

Yeah, yeah, we love to award people.

My Queenie of the Week, of course, goes to one Nicole Sanchez.

Oh, that's so good.

Obviously she's a queen of the week. She worked her way up from like a distressed like entertainment reporter— I don't even know what she was— to literally the chair of the Met Gala. She's standing at the bottom of the stairs with Anna Wintour while opening the carpet amidst all the criticism.

I'm sure she is a— you're peeing in a bottle. That's what you're doing.

She is a genius. She's an inspiration to women everywhere.

Agreed.

And she is a Queenie of the Week.

I completely—

sorry, it might be an uncomfortable truth for some.

Yeah, we could all learn something. Also, she was kind of Queenie of the Week in my household because, you know, she wrote Two Children's—

Fly Who Flew to Space.

And randomly we wound up picking— the boys picked it to read it like while we were having dinner one night. So we all took in a reading of The Fly Who Flew to Space. Really enjoyed it.

I read it at your house and I thought it was dumb.

Oh wow, I, I thought we were uplifting.

I thought—

I think it's cute, like it has a cute message. It's about outer space, which they love. And, um, I know she snuck in a little bit about like a learning disability in there.

Oh, did she?

Yeah, to like make it, you know, have very inclusive impact.

And, um, right, right, the proceeds of the sales go to charity, like kids with dyslexia.

Yeah, because Flynn like gets distracted while learning.

Um, so relatable.

Yeah. And then like he goes to outer space and it just gives him perspective, you know, sort of like what we were saying about how like go up there and you'll see we are one. And I felt like that's what— that's sort of like how Flynn felt, like he started to appreciate like the small things.

Yeah, I love that.

So Queenie of the Week in my house as well. But no, actually my Queenie of the Week— I know I was gonna shock you— is Spencer Pratt.

Oh, I'm so glad you brought this up because Spencer Pratt clips—

he's running for mayor in LA, so I don't like see everything because I don't live in LA, I'm obviously not voting, but there was the LA mayoral debate this week, which he was just on fire.

I was cracking the fuck up. Seriously, like, so good.

So good. I've been seeing like a lot of his stuff now in his ads. I just watched a video before we sat down of him like on some bridge saying, the bridge is beautiful, right? Too bad you can't see it because people are stealing the lights off of the bridge. And now the bridge is not well lit. And he said, Karen basura.

And oh my God, no, I'm sorry. So fucking funny. Karen Basura.

When he says Karen Basura, I'm not okay.

He went on Good Guys like a couple of months ago, and Ben gets— I had picked up Ben from the studio, was when we were in Florida. I picked up him from the studio and he was cracking up, and he was like— he called her like— he was like, Spencer calls the mayor the funniest thing. I'm like, oh, I knew what it was. I'm like, yeah, he does. He was like, Karen garbage. It's like, no, that's not what it is. He like couldn't remember what the joke was, so he just told me it was Karen garbage.

Oh my God, so funny. And not only is he so funny and just like crushing it with his like social media stuff and videos, but like, yeah, he makes fire points. He did so well in the debate. I think people like— the consensus was that he won the debate.

He, the, yeah, the consensus was that he won the debate. Like, people in LA are really in distress. Like, I don't know what it's like to live there, but I think it's really, really bad and hard. And so he's sort of like the hero that LA didn't know that they needed. And I think when he first launched his campaign, it did seem like a little bit like that, like a joke or like, you know, uh, like a stunt. Mm-hmm. And it's just over time, he's just a really impassioned Palisades citizen. He lost his home in a fire. His family lost their home in a fire. And no, It's been actually crazy to watch. Yeah.

And then I saw a clip of Heidi yesterday on The Squeeze.

What's The Squeeze?

The Taylor's Lot Nerd podcast.

Oh, oh, oh yeah.

And, um, she was talking about more like the emotional side. Like, she's actually— it's giving First Lady of Los Angeles. Like, absolutely. She's talking about like what it felt like to lose their home and like how their sons— like, it was like really sad and emotional. Like, she's like, you know, giving heart to the campaign. I think the two of them are a winning team.

I mean, on a small scale, she has sort of been the first lady of Los Angeles for quite some time.

Mhm.

I, I just think it's about to become formal.

I would love to see it.

He's really infringing on the incumbent, Karen Basura.

Basura. And then like the, the third person who he calls random city council member.

He's seriously cracking me up.

No, it's so good.

It's It's so good. It is, it is. It's refreshing. Like, yeah, these people literally let the city burn down and they're running again. That's insane. No, only in politics. Like, could you seriously burn your city to the ground and be leading in the mayoral race?

No, and have the highest taxed city, like the most money for community projects, like the most—

the biggest pool, and your city's burned to the ground and you don't have a, uh, water reserve, right?

And it was also like arson, you know. I mean, it's just— it was what Heidi kept saying is like, this wasn't a natural disaster, this was like completely preventable.

Absolutely.

So that— yeah, no, they're taking the fight to the mayor.

Okay, so we didn't have the same Queenie, but like similar vibes.

Um, and I think both needed to be said. There were two Queenies this week.

Who's your weenie?

Oh, my weenie was Sarah Paulson, who acted like in a weenie-like manner, you know, just like performative, the definition of performative. Yeah.

And then I saw people like saying like we didn't understand, like it's a thing on billionaires, and it's like her best friend is Kim Kardashian. Like, what are you guys talking about? It's giving selective outrage. My weenie is also an attendant of the Met Gala. You come to nobody, my weenie is Heidi Klum. I just can't get over— I really, I've thought about it a lot since Monday. Like, it was so nutty. Like, it was insane. Yeah, sorry, weenie.

Okay, I feel like those are good weenies, like, you know, what weenie is meant to be.

I really enjoyed chatting with you this morning and this week in general, and I will miss you dearly until Monday.

I enjoyed it too. We should do it every day for the rest of our lives.

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