Transcript of Cardboard Coji: Friday, January 23rd, 2026

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Good morning, girlies. It's The Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast-fired things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's The Toast.

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They sound amazing.

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Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Friday. Yeah, that's right. It's the end of the week. It does feel a little bit undeserved because it was a short week, thanks to Martin Luther King and the wonderful work that he did. So I'm just thinking for what it is. I just want to acknowledge I got to work that hard for this Friday.

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Oh, I feel like it feels deserved. Four days is still a lot of days.

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I mean, you're telling me. Should we talk about your slut strands?

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Oh, yeah. These are by way of Chris Appleton. Chris Appleton. Now I can finally wear my hair like this, which is one of my favorite hairstyles, especially on a Friday. As you know, my hairstyles do correlate to the day of the week. And now I'm back with my strands.

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Okay, Streisand.

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I'm Streamberries.

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Totally. We're both rocking our new Chris Appleton haircuts. I heard somewhere, and please, again, I just hear things in comment section, so always take what I say with a grain of salt.

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When she says, I heard somewhere, I learned somewhere, I just found out, it's from a comment section.

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Apparently, if you wanted to book Chris Appleton for a haircut, it's $100,000. Because not anyone could just do it. If you want Chris to come to you, like, randomly, it's 100 grand.

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Or you can start a podcast, work really hard for it at eight years, slay with your sister every single day, never give up, never back down, never give up on your dreams. He will come through on his book tour as a press stop to this podcast you've been working so hard on, and you can ask him to cut your hair as a bit.

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For free. Or you could start to go fund me.

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Or you could pay $100,000. I don't know. Both are a tall task.

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I just want to say I didn't even style my hair this morning. This is still Chris's blowout. I didn't have any time until I put any heat on it. It's looking amazing, and it does feel like $100,000 haircut.

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Yeah, you look like $100,000. Thanks. Which in this day and age, it's not a compliment.

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You look like a billion dollars. Yeah, billion bucks. I just feel like I won't truly be happy till I have a billion dollars.

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I've heard that the best amount of money Have you heard this? A comment section? Probably. Probably. Or like, something. Like, to be super wealthy, but not like, you know.

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Out of touch.

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The sweet spot is 200 million. That's what I've heard.

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I don't know. I just don't think I would be happy. I really don't. I feel like I would... Because you know me, I always worry about money. And it's like, no, I think 200, I would still be worrying. Yeah. Okay.

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I'm just telling you that's what I've heard.

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And then I feel like when you have 200 million, you start to run in really fancy circles of people who have 500 or a billion, and then you just feel poor. You feel less then. Yeah. And I don't want to feel poor.

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Yeah. But I feel like once you get into the billions, it's definitely toxic and you're insane. I just want to say- And so I've heard that 200 is really good amount to have.

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I believe that 200 is a good amount. But I just want to say, I happen to know just a few billionaires.

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Okay.

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And they're wonderful people.

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They seem happy.

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But maybe that's just more so a reflection on me. I attract really positive billionaires.

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Not the negative, toxic one.

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Even though I think that billionaires is just a term now for very, very wealthy. And probably a lot of the very wealthy people that I think are billionaires are just multi, multi, multi.

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Are 200 millionaires.

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No, like 500.

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And they're very happy with their 200.

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They're good people. They're just people, you guys. Us billionaires, we're just people.

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We're just like you.

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Except, happier. We have an amazing show. It's Friday, so I just feel like the energy is going to be extremely positive. The Trader's Recap, which now Trader's is releasing episodes on a one a week basis, which I do feel like, I didn't know that, I do feel like I can maybe start doing Friday recap if you're open to that. But for now, I haven't watched- We'll have to sync up on Thursday.

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Last night, I was finishing my homework for the Redheads. I finished the book. We're recording today, so that was my homework last night, but I'm I'm excited to watch Traitors. One episode is tough, though, because once I get into it, I need more.

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I mean, 100%. Netflix ruined TV by giving us the entire season at once. We all became so accustomed to this way of binging shows. And now they reverted back to like, they'll drop five episodes of a new season and then one a week, one a week. And now everybody copies what Netflix does. So Netflix just ruined my life with that. And now watching one Traitors episode a week, it's just not going to Yeah.

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I feel both ways about it. Like, yes, they ruined us, and now they're subjecting us to withdrawals. On the other hand, the term binge is never going to be a healthy thing to do in any sense.

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Yeah, but they started it.

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And when the whole season comes out, it's like you can't check Twitter at any point in the season until you finish it because there's spoilers everywhere. So I do like watching with the people. I'm a woman of the people.

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So am I. But I just feel like my habits as a consumer changed because of Netflix. And now when things are getting released weekly, The Pit, I'm in hell.

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But as a working mother now, if something was released all at once, I would not have the bandwidth to just sit and binge it. The last time I did that was Secret Lives of Norman Wives, and that was because I just had a baby. It would be too much pressure. So you know what? The timing works for me in my life if we go back to one episode a week, even though I like a little bit more, I'll be okay. They leave you wanting more. That's the point.

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We also have Queenie and Weanie today, and we have stories. And would you be able to describe those stories for me in perhaps three words?

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I could describe it in one word. Okay. Arse.

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Oh. The stories are arse. So here's three words. It's giving arse.

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It's giving arse.

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The stories are where you make them.

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Yeah, and it's more so like rounding out the week, putting a button on certain conversations.

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This really was a crazy week with a lot of developing stories.

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I honestly could not take on another new story.

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It's true between the Beckhams, the Baldonies, and the Blakes.

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We're juggling a lot of stories right now, and we're going to set our balls down by the end of the day today. That's the goal for today's episode. That's the intention I'm setting.

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Okay, so you're being intentional.

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I'm being intentional in my authenticity, for sure.

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I don't feel like that's new for you. I think you are constantly showing up here with an intention to be authentic.

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I think that's true. It would be so much energy to be anything but.

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I think we're all authentic.

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I think we are all authentic on this stage. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I don't think that's ever really been in question.

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No, we get accused of a lot of things, but being inauthentic is certainly not one of them. No.

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It wouldn't work for us. We do too much content. We wouldn't be able to keep our stuff apart. The mask on. Oh, yeah. For an hour a day.

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We also We did play Majang yesterday.

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We did play Majang yesterday.

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And we went to this busy card room and everybody was stopping us being like, Are those the Oh My Majang tiles? It's like, Is that the Chanel jacket? The Chanel boots? Yeah. Yeah.

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Everyone loved our mat and tiles. They're from Oh My Majang. They're so energy, and it was just really fabulous.

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Neither of us got Majang, and we were like 50% of the table. The fact that neither one of us ended up winning was a poor reflection on our family, I think.

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I guess so, but this was my Third time playing. I'm still learning how to be good, and I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to be a part of it.

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Yeah, I guess it's more a poor reflection on me. I just sat there the whole time talking about how I've been playing since high school. Meanwhile, I didn't get much on one time. Maybe you should. Shut up. I just learned. Stop telling me. I just learned yesterday. Yeah, I'm pretty good for someone who just learned.

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Wow. She's really good.

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She just learned. Can you believe that? Also a major update in my life. We're officially a playpen household. I meant to send you a picture this morning because it arrived. Of course, I had to get a collapsible one because I'm not about to- Sacrifice your living room. It's just not going to work. But in the recent week or two, we've started to move a lot. Moving and grooven. Moving and grooven. Grooven. Grooven is grooven and moving. Grooven.

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Roven with Roven.

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And so we would put up pillows all over the room so we didn't roll into a table or anything. And I was like, I think it's time for these walls. So I got an Amazon this collapsible thing that I can take with me when we go back to New York, and it's parching.

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Are you going to build it up and break it down every day? Of course.

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That's why I didn't get the one. There's $300 ones that you set up and you leave. It's like a play room. Yeah. This one's like a big ass pack and play that you just pull it up and then it goes in some closet. Because I may not be home, I still care about, like, clutter, things of that nature. What?

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I always just think of that clip of that show. What's that show? I always think of that clip. No idea what you're talking about. The guy, extreme cheap skates. No, but the guy- Excuse me. Who lives in an apartment and he won't buy anything.

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What do you mean? I buy so much.

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And he sits on the cardboard box on the floor that he- What did you think of me? Repurposes as his table. It's like this one piece of cardboard.

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And what about this cardboard man reminds you of me?

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It's just you. You're a swirlier version of that. But like, oh, my God. I've sent you the clip before. You were very offended.

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I don't even remember, so I'm getting re-offended all over again.

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I have to find it.

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No, I don't think that you do. And what about me getting a collapsible pack and play play pen item for my son makes me an extreme chipskate who lives with one cardboard box?

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Well, the thing is, even with this guy, just like you, it's not just about money. You did mention $300, so it was a little bit about money. It's just about the having of things and things in the room. So he just pushes his card for it. And my room's in the next.

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I'm deeply, deeply offended. It's about the having of things. Yes, I'm deeply, deeply offended. And I don't to this cheap skate. I don't know his name. I don't know him at all. I resent the accusations. I'm an extremely generous person. Here, look.

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What is she going to show us? Is that a new bag?

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It's a new bag, a new wallet. Where I keep all my money because I'm not... A cheap skate? Is that what? Here, $100. Would a cheap person do that? Even though I just give you $100 for calling me a nasty name. Take it back. You don't give me that money back, bitch. What am I doing? Rewarding this No, here. Jess. See, just to prove I'm not cheap.

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I understand.

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But I'm not giving it to the girl who just called me cardboard box homeless man.

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No, he has a home. He has a home. He has an apartment.

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He just likes his box.

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He doesn't want to buy furniture.

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I just can't fucking stand you.

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It was at the having of things.

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Yeah. So I care about clutter. Obviously, you choose to live in a pig's side. That's fine. Different strokes, of course. I would never make fun of you or compare you to anyone. So derogatorily, just different strokes. You guys know. And so, yes, I got a play pen. That was my major life update. Just huge things happening in my house.

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Well, I'm excited for you. I'm excited for Ray Uvin to be Gray Uvin.

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Yeah, he is Gray Uvin and May Uvin. Me and Ben figured out Ruby's bar mitzvah theme a year, not a year ago because he's not even here. But three months ago, we've not been able to stop planning it. I cannot wait for the affair. Obviously, it's going to be disco-themed and the merch and everything is going to say, Grooven with Reuven. Ruby's Hebrew name is Reuven. His full name is Reuven. So Grooven with Reuven. Or if you're from the old country, Greuven with Reuven.

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I'll be Greuven with Reuven.

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And I'm looking forward to seeing you shaking that thing on the dance floor. It's going to be very Studio 54.

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Very Victoria Beckham.

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Yes, exactly. I can't wait to see you in Ippropriate Dance.

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I can't wait. That is going to be a time.

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That was bar mitzvah season. Bar mitzvah season. As a parent. Yeah. Because we thought we were crazy when we were 12 in the photo booth. No.

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No. And I didn't even feel like we were crazy. We were having fun, but it- It did feel illicit.

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It was like a party.

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A bar mitzvah is an interesting time. It is the cusp of manhood and womanhood. But as a 12 and 13-year-old, you can't really appreciate the party for what it is.

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No, sweet 16s are much more- Age-appropriate in terms of being able to appreciate the affair. No, people might have been smuggling in wine coolers to a sweet 16. That really wasn't happening at a bar mitzvah.

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No, no, no, not at all. That would be really... And I'm sure some people like to drink at Bar mitzvah. That's insane.

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When they're 12, you mean? Yeah. No, that's too young to start drinking.

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Or 13.

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How did we get here? Oh, my playpen. So yeah, he's just drawing up so fast.

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And he's gray-oven.

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Gray-oven, yeah.

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Rubal.

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What's it with you?

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Not too much. Long night. Long night, yeah. We had a couple good runs, but it was back. It was back to the three-hour window. So that was rough. But we're here. We did it. We did. I can sleep in tomorrow, so I'm excited about that. And what else? We're recording Redheads today, so got to get with my gals. It's a huge day for the community. And today's the first day of the new format, where I'm not...

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Oh, hands off.

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I'm not doing the whole episode. So I'm just showing up to this podcast that's being produced for me. I can't wait.

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Okay.

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Hopefully it's still good.

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I think it will be. Yeah.

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But we're just changing it a little bit.

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Listen, change is good. I agree. I don't. You don't? No, I'm really an anti-change person.

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You are. Have you become more or less anti-change?

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Well, my life has changed by design. Yeah. And it's been wonderful.

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So has that made you more.

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But I also feel like my life hasn't changed. Do you know what I mean? I'm so may.

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You're still same old Koji.

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Same old Carboard Koji. Carboard Koji's corner.

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I have to find I'm making a clip for you. I think you'll really find it funny. Like, it's really not offensive. He's on TV.

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It's so true. He's more famous than us.

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Our first story, in no particular order, in no order of importance. Harry styles drops his first new single in nearly three years with Aperture. Not to be confused used with Apto.

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Also, not to be confused, because again, the song was in a circle, and I was thinking rapture. I could not find the beginning of the word.

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Turapair.

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Curect. Literally. Tupperware.

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It's Aperture. So it's his first song from his new disco album. I heard it was very techno, very dance-like. So I was so excited to listen on my commute because I am a techno girl now. I didn't enjoy it. I didn't finish it. What did you think?

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So it was five minutes long, which I just think is a crazy length for a song.

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It had a long intro.

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It did. Lots of synth. I just think it's a big length for a song. And if you are going to cross the four-minute mark, these days, songs are literally two minutes and 30 seconds. I hate that. I feel like the sweet spot is like 3: 30. If you're going to go above 4: 30, it has to be All too well 10 minutes. Like a Hall of Fame type of song. Bohemian Rapsody. Exactly. This is not that. And I do feel like it's a new sound, and I don't like to make a judgment on a new sound. I've only listened to it once. Ask me on Monday.

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That's really fair. That's fair. You can't judge a new sound because it takes a minute to get used to.

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But also it's like- You can't break the mold and expect people to get it. It's literally Nicki Minaj. You're not going to get the song the first time you hear it.

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And we need people making new sounds. That's what a great artist would do. So I will give him runway. I agree with you on that.

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I'm not making any decree as to it being terrible or being bad. It's different, which is we should embrace different.

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But it didn't immediately make me feel like that's my jam. Turn it up.

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Especially because he said it was a disco album. Disco does have a specific like sound, like disco already exists. So it was like new disco. I don't know.

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I just want to say the thing about disco, though, like those songs immediately hit. So again, I'll leave space for a new sound. Some of the lyrics, it seems he's talking about his lady love, perhaps. He said, It's best you know what you don't. Aperture, let's let the light in. No, of course. Aperture, lets the light in.

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I didn't even- Which refers to a camera's aperture, which controls how much of an image is visible to the photographer and affects the brightness and depth of the field of the image. Right. So I didn't even listen to the lyrics because I was just listening to the sound. But I did know that I wouldn't get it because I don't even know what the word aperture means. So it means an opening, hole, or gap. Okay, hole. Do you think it's sexual?

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No, it's something about- Or a space through which light passes in an optical or photographic instrument, especially the variable opening by which light enters a camera. It's not sexual. It's drugs. You know? Drugs?

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I thought it was like media.

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Trippy. It's like trippy stuff.

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It was giving media.

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It's giving like, Sharon.

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So it's not giving media?

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It's giving light, reflection, hallucination.

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Oh, so you think him and Zoe are doing drugs?

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No, it's just like...

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Yeah. You know? Sort of.

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Like, foggy, can't see, you know.

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Yeah. And then he also announced a couple of residencies, like mini-residencies.

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We knew he was going to be doing- That's so toast-coated.

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Oh my God. I'm telling you, he's craving stability.

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That was all right. Yeah, exactly.

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That's actually a really good sign for him and Zoe. Like, the fact that he's touring in this unique and different way so we can spend more time in one place with his lady love.

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And post up.

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Now, he announced it with a bunch of... It was like a carousel. Poster for London and then a picture of two people kissing. Poster of whatever, Amsterdam and a picture of two people kissing. And it was this very raw, unedited sexy rape. Did you not see them?

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So I saw some people kissing. I didn't watch the whole carousel.

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Yeah. And it was just like, new pictures every time. And it was like, I don't know what that esthetic is called, where it's like no airbrush, like sweaty, rave make-out. And it was just not graphic because everyone's clothed and kissing. It was just a lot of tongue.

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Okay, let's see. Harry's style.

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Oh. Yeah. Graphic. Keep going. Oh.

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I feel safe when I'm on the tour.

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I just don't understand. Yeah, right. Tongue. Okay. Safe. I don't really understand the esthetics so far of this album. It doesn't feel cohesive.

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Sexual drugs. It's sexual drugs. That's drugs and sex.

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Those pictures are sexual drugs. Yeah.

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I think it's sex, drugs, and- Harry styles. Yeah. I would say rock and roll, but techno disco.

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Yeah.

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Discotech.

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Yeah. I hate to be negative because that's my king right there, and he's always welcome, of course, in my home. But it's not giving what I was looking for, but at least it's different. I do respect when people try new things.

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The sound is different.

00:23:40

No, everything.

00:23:42

The kissing, the up-close kissing. Okay. Yeah. So cool. Wow. I'd love to see your tongue and your sweat going.

00:23:50

Yeah. Thank you.

00:23:51

I feel really inspired.

00:23:53

But happy for everyone who's going to get shows, they don't have to come to New York. You know what? Do not come. We don't need all these people We always knew he would do stuff out of New York, but it's also cool that he's posting up in whatever location.

00:24:07

It's very toast-coated. We've always said, if we ever did a tour, that's how we would do it.

00:24:10

He's also doing a little bit of press, very unique choices. He went on John Mayer has a Sirius XM show. I think it's on Radio Andy. Harry interviewed him. Excuse me. He interviewed Harry, talking about music and stuff. And then he went on some, I think it was BBC radio. I was really appreciative that this person followed up full circle, asking Harry why he was at the Pope's. Remember when they announced the new Pope and everybody ran to Connecticut? Yeah, yeah. Harry was spotted there. He was like, I was in Rome and I was getting a haircut. And I'm getting my haircut and people start screaming. And they He elected a new Pope, but in...

00:24:47

Italian.

00:24:47

Thank you. And he was saying, La Papa, whatever. Everyone's screaming it. And the hairstyle was screaming it. They finish up his haircut really quickly because a guy wants to go. It's like a historic thing. And Harry was like, Well, I was there. And it was like a big deal. So I went. Oh, cool. Yeah.

00:25:02

I wonder what other shows he'll do. So far, the ones that you said seem congruous with someone who's focused on the music. And then I do feel like if you want to get in the podcast game and you're focused on the music, you talk to Jake Shane.

00:25:11

I know. But he's also... Harry was remote from I'm telling you, he's really happy in his relationship. He's doing John Mayer. He was sitting on some green couch, and he was sitting on the same couch with wired headphones in, very low budget production for the other radio show. He's not wanting to move.

00:25:28

He's not thirst out doing a press tour. But I just want to say, and I like choosing stability, but you could go.

00:25:35

He could go. Of course, no.

00:25:37

He's acting like...

00:25:39

You're supposed to be a provider. Get up and go to work.

00:25:42

Yeah.

00:25:43

He's acting like us.

00:25:44

A new mama. Who? A new mama.

00:25:48

At first, I thought you said Malala. I'm like, I can leave Malala out of this. Yes, so he's acting like a new mother.

00:25:55

And so I could say maybe him and Zoe are expecting or something, but you could still go in person.

00:26:00

Yeah. No, and it's also like at some point, like leave your house. You are a man. You are here to provide.

00:26:04

He's acting like us.

00:26:05

He's acting like us, yeah.

00:26:07

Like, even the residency thing.

00:26:08

Yeah. And we do those things like to be comfortable and like work-life balance, being near our kids.

00:26:14

Like as like new mama's pregnant ladies, postpartum.

00:26:17

Press-feeding women. Yeah. We're allowed to do that. Like you... Like men, you still go to war, you know?

00:26:21

You could go see John Mayer in person.

00:26:23

I wonder if he'll do like any press outside, like off his couch.

00:26:29

I hope So Jake Shane.

00:26:31

Yeah. And Jake Shane. Maybe he doesn't want to travel. So if Jake Shane goes abroad, everyone, we know why. But maybe he wants to say he's in the UK. But there's lots. What's his name? Graham Norton.

00:26:40

Graham Norton. Yeah. I also feel like if he were going to do Jake Shane, it It's going to be already happening. Recorded.

00:26:46

Maybe it's coming out.

00:26:48

Or this week. You know what I mean? Yeah. We'll see. We shall see. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. We done trashing Harry's Diles for the day? I think so. I feel good. I feel all set. It feels right. Next, Ryan Reynolds is torched by fans over his cringe email he allegedly sent to It Ends With Us author, Colleen Hoover.

00:27:09

There's so... Every day we stop recording and there's more.

00:27:13

I don't even know which one to pick on a given day, but this just feels like covers a lot of areas. So Ryan Reynolds's correspondences are also being shared.

00:27:22

He wrote an email- And I want to say, shout out to Dumois, because there's so much stuff. I'm sorry, I'm not reading court documents. It's just not what I wanted to do with my life. I didn't go to law school. This is not my plate. But Dumont is finding the relevant media, and she's then making graphics on her Instagram and transcribing them. And they just feel like the text is bigger, and it's like, I don't know why. It feels more palatable to me.

00:27:43

So if you're wanting to read- I need it to be editorialized a little bit.

00:27:46

Yes. And I think Dumont is actually doing a very good job.

00:27:49

I agree. So let's get into the email that Ryan Reynolds wrote to Coleen Hoover. I'm sending you literally Every form of congratulations. I see this sky while jumping up and down and rapidly happy clapping. At one point, I was three feet from you at the after-party, but I wasn't able to extricate myself from the Sony studio's chairman's mouth. I'm still in here and I'm a little shocked I have service. Holy fuckety fuck, you guys really pulled it off. Like Coleen, this thing is on fire everywhere, and audiences have wrapped both arms around the film. You and B made something gorgeous out of ingredients you didn't ask for, which is what makes you both in this whole post-production team so clutch. I heard you got a tummy bug and you're stuck in New York. I can't think of anything worse. Although it might be your body ridding itself of any residual baudony, I'd rather be puking in a gulag than hijacking performative feminism while practicing personal growth catch phrases in the mirror. I hope you're taking a moment to enjoy this. I know the road wasn't always easy and clear. What a complete fucking win this is.

00:28:50

I know we all breathe rare air. I realize how lucky we are, but I also know how genuinely good you and B are. I could literally write you 84 more paragraphs eulogizing what this all means me, but mainly I'm just incredibly proud and inspired by you and B.

00:29:04

So just in their writing styles, Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds are quite literally made for one another. There are not two people more weird in their- Verbose. Verbose. Cringy. I feel like Drew Barrymore interviews people and touches faces. I feel like they're touching faces blankly. Help me with the word. Writtenly. Writtenly? What's the word?

00:29:31

Transcribably. Yeah. What's the word?

00:29:37

Orally, audibly, but for writing.

00:29:41

Literally.

00:29:42

Oh, yeah, probably. Now, what Blake and Ryan have been accused of from the very beginning is taking over this movie. I feel like all the media that's been released, text messages, emails, screenshots, whatever, has proved that. Blake thinks that this no good first-time director was not capable of a movie this size, and she took it over. Her edit made the theater. So they did successfully take it over. And I guess that's bad because it's mean. But it's not a crime.

00:30:16

I think the issue was about the second movie. They took over this movie, and then I think they were going to try and take the second one from him because also his character doesn't really- Exists in this.

00:30:29

He's like a very subplot.

00:30:31

So I think he felt like he had put everything he had buying the rights and producing the movie, and they were going to cut him out of it. And now it's just funny because there will be no second movie. There never could be a second movie.

00:30:42

If I'm trying to see things from Justin Paldoni's perspective, that sucks. This was his idea. He bought the rights from Coleen. He saw it before anyone else did, and he probably was excited to catch Blake Lively, this huge star, and her and her big-time husband ended up steamrolling the whole thing.

00:30:59

It could have gone on to be a huge franchise, a la twilight. It's this beloved book. The movie was star-studded. There is a sequel. There is a sequel. You could keep it going. And they were taking that from him. This would have been his big payday.

00:31:12

Right. Now, how that has any legal or criminal bearings. I don't know why we're talking about this in court. It just seems like a schoolyard. Okay, yes. And I feel like it has been proven. They stole the movie. They were probably difficult to work with. The whole thing that got us here is sexual harassment. So I I don't really understand, and I'm not reading the court documents, so maybe if I read every single page, I would understand. I'm not really understanding what them taking over the movie has to do with the allegations of sexual harassment and onset inappropriate behavior has to... Because one of those is... That is a crime. He is being accused of a crime.

00:31:45

I think that he said they took over his movie, and then I think their rebuttal is like, Well, in addition to incompetence, there was onset inappropriate behavior.

00:31:56

I know what it is, actually. What it is, is that Wait.

00:32:01

I think they're saying they pushed him out of the movie because he was in addition to incompetence, which we see inappropriate behavior with Blake, with other people, sexual harassment. So, yeah, we pushed you out of your movie.

00:32:13

And so as far as I know, based on everything I've seen so far, it hasn't been disproven that he didn't sexually harass.

00:32:21

Well, it hasn't been proven.

00:32:22

Well, they deposed Blake Lively's driver who said he witnessed a really uncomfortable conversation in Blake's car about about him having non-consensual sex. And he said that he would, after that, didn't feel comfortable leaving Blake alone with this guy. Jenny Slate, the podcast host, said lots of red... It has not been disproven. And allegations have been made by a couple of people now.

00:32:46

Right, but I think you have to prove something. It's not about...

00:32:49

No, I think it's the opposite. You have to prove that it didn't happen. Or you have to prove that it did. He's counter-suing. You have to prove that. He's counter-suing.

00:32:58

No, but I just think in general, you have to prove that... The burden of proof is on the person making an allegation.

00:33:05

Yeah, but is she making an allegation in court or just like...

00:33:09

In the public or just in the New York Times.

00:33:11

She filed an employment suit.

00:33:13

There's a lot.

00:33:14

Right. So all I know is, I don't know. No one wants to hear what I have to say, but I'm not... Where is the actual proof that Blake Lively wasn't sexually harassed and that she made it up?

00:33:29

Where's Well, you can't prove a negative.

00:33:32

Right. But there is supporting evidence that he did. The driver is the witness. That stuff isn't getting blown up. Of course, the Taylor Swift thing is getting blown up. But there was a deposition with her driver who said he witnessed definitely an inappropriate conversation. There was a voice memo when he was like, I'm sure your baby's lying on your breasts right now. Like, weird things your boss should never say to you. The young girl who said the inappropriate comment about her losing her virgin. Jenny Slate. How How does everybody know Blake Lively is making this up? What piece of information am I missing? They don't like her. She's annoying, and her and her husband stole the movie. Facts, right? That's facts now. What does that have to do with sexual harassment? Because she stole a movie, she's lying? I'm genuinely asking. It's generally been decided that Blake Lively made all this up. That's what the internet believes.

00:34:21

Okay, I can't go by the internet. I'm just going... And also the most strange people have takes on it. I don't really read stuff by crazy people. So I'm just based on what I'm seeing. So I think all of these things happened. Yes.

00:34:36

Stealing a movie isn't a crime, creatively. And I also would love to know why the Sony people went with Blake's movie, which was allegedly worse.

00:34:45

Also, then there's other documents that show Sony execs talking shit about Blake.

00:34:49

Blake, right. And also, I don't know that... Yeah, she's a bigger star. I don't know if they would throw a whole movie away to appease this one person. If her version was so Well, her vision is what you saw, so it wasn't so bad.

00:35:02

And I thought it was good. So it wasn't so bad.

00:35:03

And it was a successful movie made over $100 million.

00:35:05

It was a real movie.

00:35:06

Right. But it tested worse. And I know those focus groups are people... You don't live and die by the focus group, I think. You're supposed to take it into account, but it's not the end all be all. But yeah, all these documents, her and Ryan, and Ryan wasn't even hired. Like, Girl, get out of here. They stole the movie. They hated Justin. It seems like they hated Justin because Blake felt like he was, of course, incompetent, but also inappropriate.

00:35:31

Yeah, but I will say in these things that we're seeing, it's more so about hating him as a person. Yes. It's not like, I feel so... They say it was the nightmare to work with him because he's this fake feminist and he's so obnoxious and whatever. Narcissist. There's not a lot of references to a harassment. Not that there has to be all the time. No, but you're right. It does seem to be more about the personality clashes.

00:35:55

Yes. And her disliking him just for that, not because of...

00:35:59

And the who hubris and ego of him.

00:36:02

Yeah, I don't know.

00:36:04

I think everything that everyone said happened. So can we just let it all go? You're all wrong.

00:36:11

Yeah. Except that if everything that everybody said happened, happened, they're not the same. Like her and Ryan stealing a movie because they think they're big stars and they're probably insufferable, like egotus, is not the same as your boss sexually harassing you. So I feel like people are treating both things as equal, and they're not.

00:36:28

Yeah. Like, inappropriate comments is what we've seen. Yeah.

00:36:31

He's being accused of sexual harassment. Walking in and her with the boobs out, breastfeeding, all those things. Yeah, but if you tell someone to walk... You can come see me breastfeeding one time. That's not a free pass. We know that. Yes, I know that. And I've only recently realized that because it did happen to me where I was like, someone saw me breastfeeding once. And then every time I was breastfeeding, they kept coming in. I'm like, Well, no.

00:36:53

We know. So everything is like- No, but so Blake is allowed to feel some type of way about that. Yeah, but But he's allowed to be like, Wait, I thought it was okay.

00:37:02

Yeah. I'm not getting that. If that was the one thing, sure. But it seems like there's a lot of uncomfortable situations from this one person. But then again, it's also a movie about uncomfortable things and having a man direct all these women is already a little... It's like, Girl, get out of here. You're also the star. So it can be uncomfortable no matter what. Yeah. I don't know. I'm just like, I'm not ready to hop off yet. I'm not ready to jump down Blake Lively's throat. She's annoying. She's cringy. Her and her husband definitely think that their shit doesn't sink. They could do whatever they want. And they almost got away with it. Yeah. All of those things. Yes. There's also other stuff that I think is bigger.

00:37:41

Yeah. It's just in these filings, at least right now, what we're They keep alluding to the nightmare on set. The thing, yeah. Working with him was a nightmare. I can't even... This is all post-production. We're not getting a lot of production stuff. Yeah. Maybe that will come in his defense. He'll put forth those things as we get closer to trial to defend himself. I didn't do anything wrong. But they keep talking about what happened on set without telling us about it. In a vague way. Yeah. Just in past tense.

00:38:11

Yeah. And maybe I'll feel differently. I feel a little crazy. Everybody hates my takes. And I'm just like, I don't know. I feel like... And I read a lot, and I watch a lot of TikToks. Mostly from people who are team Baldon. Yeah. And I don't know, I just don't find it compelling. And I'm not just like... Blind. No, I'm not just like digging. I'm not even care about these people. I'm not even a huge Blake Lively fan. I'm not a Justin Baldon fan. I'm not digging my boots in just because this whole time said that I hate Justin Baldon and I don't want to be wrong. If I really felt my opinion changed, I would say it. And it would be like a whole thing. Maybe I'll get there, but I don't know, the more I read, I'm like, Okay, nothing Blake Lively has been accused of is criminal. If being annoying was a crime, she would be in prison. And if being insufferable was a crime, she would be in prison. But those are not crimes. Sexual harassment is.

00:39:15

And I just feel like every- Well, you keep saying she stole a movie. Stealing is a crime.

00:39:18

No, it's not. Creatively stealing, steam rolling over someone is not a crime. And I feel like there's so much that's come out. And of course, the big headlines are the Taylor Swift and the cringe text messages. But there are also things like the deposition of her chauffeur that nobody's talking about because it does support her claim.

00:39:36

When was that?

00:39:37

When was what?

00:39:37

The deposition.

00:39:38

It's in all these filings. I don't know when he was deposed.

00:39:43

Yeah. Also, I saw stuff yesterday more about the birthing scene, which has always bothered me. Like an uncomfortable set.

00:39:50

Actually, whenever I think about that, I think it's crazy that he said his wife gave birth naked. How you gave birth without a bra is insane.

00:39:58

And in a hospital, I've I've never heard of. But people who do home births and give birth naked, that I've never heard of in a hospital.

00:40:07

That's just a fun fact. It's crazy.

00:40:10

Yeah. I don't like that. It's icky and yucky, but not a crime.

00:40:18

No. And the movie really does deal with such sensitive topics that there was never going to be a world in which nobody felt uncomfortable at all. So I do think some of the things you can chalk up to, it being just a really sensitive movie, covering a lot of sensitive topics.

00:40:32

But I don't know. Yeah.

00:40:35

I just feel like the big storyline about Blake being annoying and cringe and a celebrity. What else do you expect from these egotistical people who have their whole lives been told how amazing they are? She's definitely difficult to work with. Why that is a bigger headline than all of the weird things Justin Baldon is saying?

00:40:55

Well, I don't think the headlines can keep... There are so many headlines.

00:40:58

No, but that's what I see.

00:41:00

The takeaway.

00:41:01

That's what everyone's clipping is the...

00:41:03

Well, at least right now, it's all her correspondence is. So that's what everyone's really focusing on. Plus with Taylor, that's always going to be the big thing. Of course. No, everyone wants to hear what Taylor said more than the driver.

00:41:14

Of course. But the driver is more pertinent to the case than Taylor.

00:41:17

But I also imagine that... Well, also Taylor was really involved.

00:41:23

And by the way, did you see the correspondence where Blake wrote, Thank you so much. You were amazing.

00:41:28

You saved another movie from the Graveyard.

00:41:30

This will be the second movie you pulled out of a grave. What's the first?

00:41:33

No. And so a year ago or whatever, when he said Taylor and Blake conspired to take my movie from me.

00:41:40

He sounded crazy.

00:41:41

He did. And she said, I'll release my Dragons. They could be your Dragons on my team. He's talking about this. They did.

00:41:49

Yes, definitely.

00:41:50

And that's crazy. And that's just for me, that's tea.

00:41:54

Exactly.

00:41:55

This is like legal tea, though. No, but it's like, that's tea. I don't know why you all are in court. And I've said this for a while now. They need to meet the two of them. They are destroying each other and themselves, and they need to just say and walk away from this.

00:42:13

That's so funny. I don't feel like Justin Baldon is being destroyed. I think there was a moment in time when she first released in that whole New York Times thing where he was on the brink of destruction. He was basically there. And he fought back tooth and nail. And I think it's pretty overwhelmingly bad for Blake. And now Justin, I feel like he's been vindicated.

00:42:41

Okay.

00:42:42

That's just how I feel based on public perception. And what ends up happening in court might not even change that.

00:42:47

I agree with what you just said, but it proves why he had to fight Tooth and Nail and do all of this. Because when that New York Times thing came out- It was over. Goodbye, Justin Baldon.

00:42:58

No, it's insane how quickly and how drastically it went from one extreme to the other.

00:43:04

Yeah. And don't forget the summer of Hating Blake Lively. Yes.

00:43:09

And then... Wow, it's been such a long time because this was last summer.

00:43:15

It wasn't this past summer. It was the other one.

00:43:17

And then in December, she did her big thing and almost won. And he did not give up. And now we're over a year later, not even in court yet. Yeah. It's been a long time. It's been a long Long time coming.

00:43:33

So, yeah, it's a lot. I understand it's emotional.

00:43:38

And if someone could just explain to me how they know Blake Lively's lying about the sexual harassment.

00:43:43

It's not that they know that she's lying. It would be someone saying she has yet to prove it.

00:43:48

Got it. That's all, I think. Okay. And so we're just not... We just don't believe. I thought we were believing women. I thought that was the party line.

00:43:55

Well, it depends- On the woman. Who you are.

00:43:58

I think it also depends on the woman. Okay, the woman's annoying and the woman is like- For other pea-brained people.

00:44:04

But I'm saying in general, here, yes, we shall endeavor to believe women, but you have to prove something as well. Right.

00:44:12

And so because she stole a movie, maybe that makes her a less believable victim. I'm genuinely just trying to understand.

00:44:21

I can't get into the mind of a pea brain.

00:44:23

No, not even a pea brain. Somebody smart who is Justin Baldoni believes, you don't believe Blake Lively was sexually harassed because she sold a movie and she's like a bitch. Is that why? Bitches can't be harassed?

00:44:34

I can't answer this question. I'm just curious. On behalf of people that I don't agree with.

00:44:39

Yeah.

00:44:40

And I don't listen to their takes on TikTok. So I actually don't- No, I do.

00:44:43

And the whole thing is like, well, look, Look at what's happened this week. What that has to do with sexual harassment? I'm not sure.

00:44:50

Not a lot has happened to do with sexual harassment this week, though.

00:44:53

No, but it has been proven that her and her husband stole the movie. He was getting involved. It's not his movie. They were using their big A-list money connects powers. Even him saying, Look, I was in the mouth of a Sony exec. Everybody in Hollywood, up until recently, ate their ass. So they used all their powers to steal a movie from someone they didn't think was capable of doing it. Yes, that has been proven. I personally would like to focus on the crimes more so than the movie stealing.

00:45:22

Our next story, some memoir news. Who's writing it? Hayden Penetier is getting the memoir treatment. She's revealed the cover of her new memoir, not called Memoirs of a Hayden. It is called This is Me, A Reckoning.

00:45:36

Okay. I will never say anything bad about Hayden Penetier. She deserves all of our love and support. It is a bad memoir name as somebody who just for a living, criticizes memoirs names?

00:45:47

That is the best part of our job. I would say my criticism with this memoir name is that it could be anyone's memoir name.

00:45:56

Yeah, right. This is me, a reckoning. It could be Keala Settles. It should be Keala Settle.

00:46:01

One thousand %. But who's the last person that we said was writing their memoirs? It could have been this is me. So I would have loved something else.

00:46:12

Now getting past because we're not supposed to judge a book by its cover nor its title. I don't think there's somebody more poised to write a banging memoir. She's an amazing fan of it. I mean, let alone her prolific child acting career. And she almost made it out of that trope of child actors. She was doing quite well until she had a baby, and I think that really sent her into a very rare but not spoken about enough case of true postpartum psychosis, postpartum depression. She had to give up custody of her daughter. And then she had terrible things happen in her family separately from that. So it's really sad what's happened to Hayden Panetier. I feel like the way everybody feels about Amanda Binds, where we just want to... Hayden Panetier doesn't get enough love because she's really not in the public eye. She's taken a step back, but she deserves all the love. Everybody buy her book, even if you don't know how to read.

00:47:03

I will be reading it. It's due this spring. I'm going to read it. I really hope she talks about Raising Helen. I hope she talks about Nashville.

00:47:11

Okay, so where we're staying has this TV that has Samsung TV+. I told you, that's where I found the Martha Stewart Show. It has the most- Would my frame have Martha Stewart Show? Samsung? Yeah, but this TV, whenever you turn on, just takes you. You know how in New York, you put on your TV, it takes you to New York One? This takes you to Samsung Plus TV or whatever.

00:47:30

Oh, mine takes me to the weirdest channel. But yes, I understand.

00:47:33

And so they're always playing the most random stuff. Last night, they were playing Nashville. And it was, I forgot. That girl, Scarlett. She was so annoying.

00:47:40

She was. What do you mean remember?

00:47:42

She was the whole show. When I turned it on, she was singing around on some stage. And I was like, now I remember why I stopped watching this show. She literally ruined it. Speaking of Nashville.

00:47:51

Scarlett and Gunner. And she wouldn't take him back, even though they were meant to be together. Gunner was there, too. Gunner.

00:47:56

He's cute. He was sweet.

00:47:57

He always comes through our red carpet.

00:47:59

There There are so many things that Hayden Paneteer needs to touch on.

00:48:05

Well, yes. So she was in Remember the Titans. She was on some soap operas like One Life to Live. She was on Heroes.

00:48:10

Raising Helen.

00:48:12

Scream movie.

00:48:13

Wait, one more.

00:48:14

Bring it on.

00:48:15

Bring it on with Solange Knowles.

00:48:16

Bring it on All or Nothing.

00:48:17

Where she learned to crump.

00:48:19

So good. So, so good. So, yeah, that's out this spring. Get your TBRs ready.

00:48:27

Who's publishing it?

00:48:29

Grand Central Publishing and Imprint. We all know that word from younger.

00:48:33

Yes, I watched younger.

00:48:34

Of Hatchet Book Group.

00:48:36

Okay, let's go. Let's go. I don't think often about Hayden Paneteer. So if you would have asked me which celebrity would write the best memoir, she wouldn't even come to mind. But she's up there with the greats. I think this will be a great book.

00:48:47

I think so, too. Our next. And memoirs don't have to be held back by their titles. Like, even if you think of our favorite celebrity memoir.

00:48:56

Jessica Simpson, Open Book.

00:48:57

Open Book. That could also be anyone. It's generic. It wasn't chicken of the books.

00:49:03

Tuna of the Book. Tuna of the Literary Aisle. Books of the Sea. Did you see her theme song? No. Because we talked about them doing a partnership, right? And we literally said, Bring Back Jingles. She made a jingo for them.

00:49:15

Oh, I have to go see.

00:49:15

Yeah, it was cute.

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00:52:21

Our next story. Scarlett Johansson, Kate Blanchard, and Joseph Gordon-Levitt are among 700 industry backers of a new anti-AI campaign.

00:52:32

Okay.

00:52:33

More than 700 artists, writers, and creators, including the three people I just named, have united behind a new anti-AI campaign, calling out the tech companies exploiting copyrighted work without permission. While lawmakers on both sides of the Atlantic are weighing new regulations around AI training data, the campaign argues that stealing our work is not innovation, it's not progress, it's theft, plain and simple.

00:52:56

How are they stealing their work?

00:52:59

They They use their...

00:53:02

Name and likeness and stuff.

00:53:03

And also like sounds and imagery.

00:53:05

Well, Scarlett Johansson had that crazy saga where an AI company that has a Siri type of voice- The sky. Was using her voice, which is illegal.

00:53:13

Yeah, for sure. That's a big one.

00:53:15

They were found guilty. I feel like this is confusing because the law is pretty clear on copyright and stuff. If any AI company is using any of these celebrity's name and likeness without their consent, that is illegal and they are entitled to compensation. I think- So are they taking this stance against AI in general or just AI skirting the law?

00:53:32

Ai skirting the law in terms of using copyright and material. I imagine using a scene from a film and putting someone else's face on it, stuff like that.

00:53:40

Yes, I remember Chat just recently. They have a different... They own a thing called Soma or whatever.

00:53:46

Oh, the video one?

00:53:47

Yeah. Sora? Sora, right. And they were using a lot of movies and like, Jake Paul's face. And yes, that is- So that would be like, I think that's among the things that they're talking about.

00:53:56

I think that they are fighting for more licensing, basically to get paid for AI, for those sorts of things, as opposed to not using it at all.

00:54:07

Got it. So they don't really inherently have an issue with AI.

00:54:09

It's more so about- I don't think you can fight AI happening. Right.

00:54:12

So this is just a niche issue for them. It's hard for me to personally care about like, Scrolle's Revents and not getting more money. But even though I believe that she's right. And like, sorry that happened to you.

00:54:23

And they weren't mad when robots were taking other jobs.

00:54:25

Right. Of like, coal miners. So again, that doesn't mean that their cause is wrong.

00:54:29

If only robots could mine the mines.

00:54:33

Mine the mines.

00:54:33

Mine the coal.

00:54:35

Right. Like, sorry. Agreed. Good luck with that. Yeah.

00:54:43

Yeah.

00:54:43

T-t-y-l.

00:54:44

Everyone's got their own battle to fight.

00:54:47

I just want to say one thing. Open ladders. Effective?

00:54:54

I don't think so. I think I'm personally open-letter fatigued. When I So performative. When I see an open letter, even if I agree with what they're saying, I don't agree. It's not that I disagree with writing an open letter. Say what you want, do what you want. Read by the press.

00:55:09

It's really hard for me to care. They're so performative, and it's like, there's an open letter, and then a bunch of celebrities sound like an opposing open letter. It's like, battle of the open letters. And it's like, you know what? I prefer the Morgan letters.

00:55:21

I do prefer the Morgan letters.

00:55:23

Yeah. So good luck with that.

00:55:25

And it's really just about numbers because they say these three people and then 700 others.

00:55:30

And I want to talk about these three people. Obviously, you lead with Scarlett Johansson. It's like, wow. Who is the second?

00:55:34

Kate Blanchard. You know? Then we get to Joseph Gordon-Levitt.

00:55:39

Joseph Gordon-Levitt. And I love Joseph Gordon-Levitt. If 500 Days of Summer has no fans, I've passed away. But That's the third most famous person on your list? Seriously, good luck.

00:55:48

No, and also some of these open letters. I mean, this is like whatever Hollywood stuff, but some of these open letters will be like, 600 scientists said. And it's like someone who's in eighth grade science class. And it's the eighth grader.

00:56:01

They use a lot of big generalization.

00:56:03

Yeah. So you really have to really look at the list of signatories.

00:56:08

Yeah. And I'm just like...

00:56:10

And I don't want to look at the list of signatories.

00:56:11

No. I'm just over open-letter culture.

00:56:14

I agree. And I agree.

00:56:17

Let me ask you this. So a closed letter is the mail?

00:56:23

I think a closed letter is like, the public doesn't know that you sent this letter to the AI company. Yeah.

00:56:30

Why don't people try closed letters? Try something new.

00:56:34

Yeah. I think people like an open letter is a great way to get your name out there.

00:56:38

It's so true because when they do- It's a great way to generate press for yourself about a cause. When you send out an open letter, it almost always comes with a press release.

00:56:46

Yeah. And then you look cause-driven. Your name is in the press, and you didn't really have to do that much. And it looks like you care about something.

00:56:55

Slay the house down boots, Scarlett. Yeah.

00:56:58

Our fifth and final story story, Kyle Cooke is addressing potential financial implications in Amanda Patula's breakup.

00:57:05

This was the weirdest.

00:57:06

It's not a breakup, it's a divorce. Right.

00:57:07

And this was also the weirdest you think. Okay, he's being... Speaking for the first time on his divorce, 10 years in the making, And it's literally like somebody following him around with a phone in the street. He's on the side of the road. Yeah. And it's not like an airport TMZ or anything. It's just like his intern filming. It's Adam Glenn. Oh, it's Adam Glenn? Yeah. Okay. I actually know him. You know him?

00:57:28

Who is he?

00:57:29

He is like a paparazzi who started his own social media, and now he has really good relationships with celebrities. Reality starts, too, because he is a successful paparazzi. So we think he's a paparazzi for higher, so they all really like him. And now he does a lot of man on the street content. I actually see his stuff everywhere. So good for him. He got the scoop.

00:57:47

He got the scoop. So Kyle Cooke is addressing online speculation that Amanda could potentially get saddled with some of his debt from Loverboy.

00:57:55

Because he took out personal loans, right? Instead of raising more money.

00:57:58

He said, I've seen a bunch of videos up talking about divorce and the financial implications. I don't think a lot of people really understand the intricacies of my business to begin with. Is there debt? Yeah, I took a small business loan, he said. I actually have no idea, he admitted, adding that he and his estranged wife don't really plan to get to that point. So I guess hopefully they could just like- Split amic.

00:58:17

I imagine they never really merged finances or anything, like a very modern marriage before you have kids.

00:58:22

Except that she was very involved in- Lover boy. Lover boy, doing the branding, building into helping out where it is. I don't know if she would just walk away from all of that, but maybe for her piece, she would.

00:58:33

Yeah. I think I said this the other day. There was a time where I do feel like it actually would have been really hard for her to walk away. I think the company at one point was actually worth a lot of money. And now the space is very saturated, and I don't think they have a huge market share anymore. I think they did take on a lot of debt. Now I think it's maybe easier for her to walk away, be like, Yeah, maybe this company will sell for a lot of money. It might not. For my piece, I can go.

00:58:56

Or maybe he'll give her a percentage of it.

00:58:58

But didn't he say on the show that he had taken a personal loan? A small business loan would not affect your partner. It affects the business. You take out the loan on the business. Where you get into trouble is where you start to take out personal loans and you can't... If you default on those loans, then your house gets taken. That's what happens in a lot of big scandals. So I remember him saying on the show that he had taken out a personal loan.

00:59:15

I don't know that.

00:59:17

I can't. And if he did, that would be incumbent on Amanda. I also believe Amanda is personally wealthy, her family. So I just imagine she's not terribly worried.

00:59:30

Yeah. I hope, I think they'll be able to just both walk away. Like he said, we hope to not get to that point. I think it should be as mess free as a divorce could be, even though they do have this entity between them.

00:59:43

Yeah.

00:59:44

We'll see. Well,. Queener and weaner.

00:59:48

Queener and weaner. Sabrina the weaner. Never. Today is Queeny and Weanie. Our final, excuse me, segment of the week. Every Friday, Jackie and I like to do a little segment we call, Queenie and Weanie of the Week, where we deliver two awards, a rose and a thorn, if you will, to a queenie of the Week, somebody who acted like a Weenie of the Week, and Weenie, somebody who was being major Weenie energy this week.

01:00:09

A lot of choices.

01:00:10

And if it's okay with you, I'd like to go first with my weanie because- We know we start with Weenie. That's what I said. Sorry.

01:00:15

Did I say- You said Weenie.

01:00:16

Excuse me. I'd like to start with my queenie because I've had my queenie written in my notes app since Monday, since I saw this video that literally brought me to tears. Bridget from The Bar, influencer to the stars, and also founder of The Bar. She has been publicly battling cancer for the last two years, she's been documenting the whole thing on social, just acting like a queen. She finished her treatment, and she did the whole walk with the bell. And whenever I see a bell video, I'm sat and I'm crying. This one just seriously broke me. She was wearing the cuteest outfit. She refused to lose her sparkle during chemo. She rang the bell, her fucking husband, the way I would take a bullet for that man.

01:00:49

I have to have chills. I saw the video of you describing it.

01:00:51

Her fucking husband. Obviously, I was watching Bridget, but I was watching her husband. He was so overcome with emotion. He wanted to hug her, but he did not want to take... It is, first of all, the video is a work of art. Bridget is a queen. Excuse me. Bridget is a queenie, and she happens to be the queenie of my week.

01:01:09

I love that. That's a beautiful queenie. Shout out to Bridget. My queenie is Chris Appleton. For coming on the show, being such a trooper, giving free haircuts. With our breath-like... With our breath-like energy, cutting my hair on his way out the door, down to clown.

01:01:26

He was very generous with his product, his time, his skill, and his scissors.

01:01:30

Yeah. And he was down to clown, which is really like, if you're coming on this show- You have to join us down here. Yeah. It might always go... But sometimes it's just an adventure over here at The Toast. And he had such great energy. And everyone really loved yesterday's episode. You got an amazing haircut. I did. I got fresh pieces. He's the queenie of my week.

01:01:48

Yeah. And you do expect somebody who is so... He was literally the most famous stylist. You would never know. He was so normal and so cool. How he was on the show was That's exactly how he was. Literally, we were running out of his studio because he had a book tour to do making TikToks. He was so down. He gave us everything. He left everything on the mic.

01:02:08

Agreed. Weenie.

01:02:10

So many good options this week. Now, what really took over my week was Tell Me Lies. I feel like weenie is not even a big enough term for Steven, but the way he made me feel was so profound. That filming scene, it was really... I don't even want to give him weaning because he behaved was so more than a weaning.

01:02:31

It was diabolical. Psychopath of the Week.

01:02:34

Criminal of the Week. Seriously, Jail for You Week. But he was my weaning of the Week. Seriously, I fucking hate Steven. It's actually crazy when a show makes you feel... That's how you know it's a good show, good and bad. It makes you feel... It's such a good show, and his performance is really... I hope it's a good performance, and he's not even remotely like that because he's so believable. He is fucking awful. I cannot stand that man. Weenie. Also, A shout out to Colton.

01:03:01

My Weenies, plural, are Brooklyn and Nikola. Oh, of course. I cannot believe that they did what they did.

01:03:07

Can we talk about a person whose name I swore I would never say on this show, but it has to be said?

01:03:14

Oh, I just saw that this morning. Okay, so Elana Hadid- I didn't read into it, but I saw Nikola's ex's sister is talking about how Nikola always wanted to be famous. I was like, Which of her ex has a sister?

01:03:24

So Elana Hadid, the extremely irrelevant, awful anti-Semitic sister of the Hadid family, chimed in. And you know what? I actually appreciated it because I had read in a TikTok comment, really, that Nikola dated Anwar Hadid for four years. And I read that at the time, he was really estranged from his family, especially his mom. And I was like, Well, that's convenient, if not true, and interesting, if true. And then Alana chiming in, basically echoing that sentiment and being like, Team Victoria. While I hate her with every fiber of my being, her perspective is appreciated.

01:04:00

Oh, I thought you were saying that she was a weanie.

01:04:04

Well, she is a weanie, but I just wanted to talk about what she said.

01:04:07

Oh, yeah. It seems to just be a pattern.

01:04:09

Yeah, which is not good.

01:04:11

And so, yeah, I can't believe the two of them wrote that, especially as we discussed this week. No one was talking about it at the moment. We weren't looking for an explanation. The two of you could have ridden off into the sunset, and you don't have to... I'm just never going to side with the person that publicly trashes their family when the family... It seems fine. Yes, sure. Maybe they're a A little controlling, and she danced.

01:04:31

And she's posh spice, so what do you expect?

01:04:33

Right. She shook her hips at the wedding.

01:04:36

May I suggest? I do feel like the weaniness really weighs heavy on Brooklyn's shoulders. Honestly, Nikola Slay, your man loves you so much. Him throwing your mother to Nicola, Victoria is just like a mother-in-law. To Brooklyn, that's your mom, dude. I agree.

01:04:53

The onus is more on him, but they're- A unit. They're a unit, and it's like Megan and Harry. I know you love to put... You're very consistent in that. You put all the onus on Harry. I think the womanly wiles can't be understated. So true. But the men falling for it cannot be understated.

01:05:13

That's our show. Thanks for an amazing week, you guys. We're back on Monday with just more swirly energy, hopefully more breath energy.

01:05:19

Monday, Traitor's Recap.

01:05:20

Monday, Traitor's Recap. And that's all we've got for you. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast & Millionaire Morning Show where we deliver the fast five stories. It means to know every Monday, Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe. And give us a video of thumbs up. We're also available as podcast anywhere. Podcasts can be found. So that's Spotify, iTunes, Twitter, public radio, iHearReady, cast box, all the places, where we have this in a podcast. Just leave a five-star review about how beautiful, about how stunning, and about how wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have a wonderful weekend.

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Episode description

1. Harry Styles Drops First New Single in Nearly Three Years with 'Aperture' (PEOPLE) (18:52)

2. Ryan Reynolds's TORCHED by fans over 'cringe' email he allegedly sent to It Ends With Us author Colleen Hoover (Daily Mail) (27:03)

3. Hayden Panettiere Reveals the Cover of Memoir This Is Me: ‘Some Stories Are Only Yours To Tell’ (PEOPLE) (45:23)

4. Scarlett Johansson, Cate Blanchett and Joseph Gordon-Levitt Among 700 Industry Backers of New Anti-AI Campaign (Variety) (52:22)

5. Kyle Cooke addresses potential ‘financial implications’ in Amanda Batula breakup (Page Six) (56:58)

- Queenie and Weenie of The Week (59:47)

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