Transcript of All Roads Lead to the Road: Thursday, January 15th, 2026

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They sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy, oh, Thursday.

It's Thursday. It's feeling like a Thursday.

Chugging along. Really feel like my time in Florida is coming to an end. Like, what is this weather? It's freezing. I heard it snowed in Pensacola.

Wow. And you weren't there to see it.

I know. And she's from Pensacola. That's not much bigger than Mayesville.

The weather is very on and off. Even as I was driving today, I had to put my sunglasses on, take them off. I try not to wear sunglasses when it's not super sunny because I don't want my eyes to not be able to handle any light.

Speaking of driving, I do feel like yesterday's conversation about driving just set me off on this journey of destruction. As I was pulling out of here yesterday, just ran into a pole, and I heard this crickling, crackling sound, and I haven't actually went to the back of the car to investigate it. I just can't bring myself to do it. And I feel like if it's really that big of a deal, Ben will see it and be like, Hey, what happened?

Someone behind you driving will honk and be like, Jack, you're behind.

And the thing is about this pole is that I swear to God, when I was looking, and I'm just at a stage in my life where the cameras aren't enough. I really need not be turning my neck around. I'm telling you, it wasn't there.

On the cameras.

The camera. But then when I heard the crackle and I looked at the camera, I'm like, Oh, big black pole. It really came out of nowhere, you guys.

Just one thing to say. Oops.

My bad. I just really- They're going to revoke our license. I can't be bothered with stationary objects. It actually is really crazy that the average person can get a license.

No. And that's what gives me a lot of comfort, even when I'm doubting myself, when I'm driving, I'm like, I can't do it. Knowing tons of people do it. Everyone does it. I once saw a video of a kid in another country. I think he was four years old, and he was driving a truck.

That's interesting. You know what actually brings me comfort that I think about all the time? And it's actually related to when I first gave birth, I was so paranoid that somebody was going to come and steal my baby. And a friend of mine was like, Nobody wants your baby. Babies are a lot of work. I'm like, Oh, I guess that's facts. Sure. People on the road, they don't want to be killed either. So if I'm just swerving into lanes and you're in my way, I also I have a lot of faith that that person, even if I'm in the wrong, they're going to get out of my way. They care about their car, too.

Oh, I have no faith in that. When I want to change lanes where an ordinary person would, if there's a car within 50 feet of me, I'm not doing it because I just think they're not going to stop what they're doing.

I just imagine it's also annoying for that person to get into an accident. It delays your day. It's expensive. Insurance, police, it's a lot. I imagine they're also going to do everything in their power to get the fuck out of my way as well. And that brings me great comfort because I'm changing lanes and I'm like, I think nobody's there. And if there is, they'll get out of my way. They know what to do. Yeah. It's human nature to avoid destruction. So if I'm just swerving into your lane, I have great faith in my fellow man that they will GTFO.

Yeah. Okay. I'm not going to apply that because I just don't think I'm in a place where I can be so brazen on the road. You'll get there. I'm much more of a shy driver, introverted imposter syndrome. But I think It sounds like we all have a bit of imposter syndrome on the road.

It's true.

We're all thinking the same things about one another.

It's Thursday. I still did not watch Tell Me Lies, and I'm just feeling like...

You don't want to watch this show?

No, I do. I love the show. I just feel I don't know why I feel physically unable. Do you know what I mean?

I'm still in the second episode. I watched more last night, but I couldn't watch that much. It's hard to go in and out of. You really have to be sat for it. I understand if you don't want to take it on. Once you're in it, it's so good. But if I'm pausing every five minutes, it's not the watching experience.

I'm also just like, I've got this baggage, right? Ben, when we get into it, he's like, What are we watching? I'm like, Well, I guess we are not going to watch a show that I watch two seasons of and that you've never seen.

Yeah. It's been isolating for sure because I have to watch two nights ago when I thought we were watching, I was like, I have to watch Tell Me Lies For Work. You don't watch it, so you're on your own.

The buck stops here.

Yeah.

Yeah. So instead, we ended up watching because I realized there's only one episode of The Pit Out, and I watched it the other night, so I'm screwed. We ended up watching, Ben was really wanting to watch Martha Stewart. She doesn't have a show. Do you know what I mean?

No, she has bits and bobs of content. But there's no...

It's insane that she got to the homemaker level that she is Ina the Great. She literally doesn't have a TV show. So he searched in the TV. Martha Stewart? Yeah.

And these turntables- Episodes on Amazon Prime?

No, on Samsung TV Plus, which I guess I have. I think it comes with my Samsung TV or whatever. It was pretty good. It was called Martha Stewart's cooking School. It's very educational. Ben was taking notes. I did fall asleep. It just wasn't for me. I had this famous butcher come on. Not only could I not watch Tell Me Lies, I got roped into watching something Ben was into.

That sounds nice, though. It sounds nice to watch Martha Stewart.

Yeah, she's a queen.

There's worse things he could have wanted to watch, like Marvel.

I do want to say, though, because I watch a lot of cooking content my husband, and I feel like I'm very critical. You guys know I'm always talking about Ina. Like I said, it's amazing that Martha has become this billion-dollar homemaker without ever having a steady TV show. I feel like I understand why.

She- It's not like, doesn't have that Well, she's very educational.

She knows shit. Nobody knows. She was talking about making stews and putting like, carrot, onion, celery, like the classic. And there's a word for those vegetables, like aromatics. It's like a finja-rafun. And she's just She's so woke in cooking. She knows everything. And it's just boring. Yeah. And if you're taking notes, the roast chicken she made, I can make it. She explained it so perfectly, but it wasn't the most entertaining. I feel like maybe that's why her empire is without its own TV show. Let me tell you, that bitch is so monotone. Do you ever notice that? Yeah.

She's not a lot of- She's not warm and fuzzy. She's not trying to be, and she doesn't want to be. It's really educational. I watch a compilation of her making pies over the holidays, and it was like, bing, bam, boom, bop, boom, bop, bam.

Yeah, no pizazz.

No.

I'm going to throw in a joke. Right. Oh, no jokes. No smiles.

Even Aina throws in a joke.

It might not be- No, it's awkward, but it's a joke.

The most amazing joke. But she's got something. No, when you watch a lot of cooking content, you start to realize I actually watch someone who you would think, She should have a cooking show. I'm not going to say who. No, I'm not going to say who because she's otherwise talented. It was just a feeling to me like, Oh, maybe she shouldn't.

Yeah, none of her Someone could do it, you guys. Even someone you would think.

Yeah, it takes a special kind.

What else can I tell you? We had lunch together yesterday. That was nice.

We did have lunch together yesterday. We had a nice time. We did.

We always have a nice time.

We always have the best time. I actually filmed something really fun last night. Bruno got a brand deal. Chooy. I don't want to spoil anything. No, it actually might be up for Toasty Lion's when it comes out. I have to get the content approved, but yeah, Bruno is going to start paying his home bills as the most expensive member of the family.

There's quite literally nothing better than when your dog starts bringing in money. I remember when I got Theo, it was like such an added expense to my life. It was my first big responsibility. And I was like, I'm not even worried. We're going to get so many brand deals. I think over the course of his lifetime, we got one with Barkbox.

You got Amazon Pet, remember?

Oh, yeah. Okay. So sorry, two. And that Amazon Pet one paid extremely well.

Oh, and Barkbox was the gift that kept on giving. There were so many toys all the time.

Yeah, except that I was paying for a Barkbox, and I couldn't figure out how to stop paying for Barkbox. And then I got the brand deal, and I was like, Oh, that's great. Now I pay for all the boxes. At one point, I think I was getting two a month. It was insane. And I could not figure out how to cancel it. That's how they get you. They make their portal so fucking confusing. It didn't bring it as much money as I thought it would.

Having a pet. Yeah. You know what I was thinking about yesterday? I don't know why I was thinking about this. I don't know what set me off in this course, but I was thinking about when you had Theo and how he was just the center of the universe for all of us. The moon and stars. I took being a dog Anne so seriously.

For our family, none of us had kids yet. It was our first really big responsibility.

When you would ask me to watch Theo for the weekend, I would clear my schedule. Every time he came in from a walk, we would have baths. I'd make a little spa set up for him. I would do photoshoots with him. We cared so much. I even remember when Olivia was pregnant for the first time. Yes. I remember thinking thinking, How am I going to love my niece even more than I love the dog, the dog nephew.

No, it's inconceivable- The dog nephew. That I could have more love than this. Yeah. Because the love doesn't get greater than it did for Theo.

That's what I thought. Now, of course, my heart's expanded, and now I'm the worst dog in. Fuck them no. Let's get these run out of my house.

Jackie won't even let Magnolia into her house. Right.

And Romeo, seriously, on his last leg. But it was just really funny to think about the evolution of how you're It was a priority. A whole weekend. I wouldn't go. I wouldn't go out because I'm like, Theo needs me.

But I do think it also prepared us. It was the first, not for mother, but just for responsibility. It's a necessary step. I think all young married couples should get a dog if they're not having kids quite yet.

And if you want a dog. But it does get hard if you want to have a kid within the next few years, and then you do have this young dog that needs a lot. I think it could go either way. Now, with Brew, we slayed the timing, and he's an amazing addition, and he's just one of the boys.

With Theo, we had planned on slaying the timing, obviously. God had other plans. Now, I'm stuck with Romeo.

But you had Ruby at the same age Romeo. It's different because he was your second dog, but you had Ruby at the same age Romeo was as I had Harry with Bruno, 18 months apart. You had two under two.

It was just different.

Yeah, no, it was different. For a bowl to two under two. I agree. Bruno is, he's just a real one.

I'm going to say something crazy.

Shout out to Bruno today.

I think I love Bruno more than I love Romeo. I love Bruno. I really love Bruno.

It took a while. I feel like- No, it didn't. I feel like everyone like clowns on Bruno.

No, that's Magnolia. You're getting confused.

No, for a while, they just... I feel like Bruno didn't get his shine.

He just Well, Bruno constantly lived in the shadow of Theo. Theo was like, it's honestly insane that Theo was ever earthside. He feels ethereal.

Like, even- Like, he always was ethereal.

He was this larger than life being. And Bruno definitely Got shadowed. Got shadowed. So the best thing to ever happen to Bruno is Theo getting cancer.

Makes you think that Bruno poisoned him and gave him cancer. Perhaps. But I also want to say to Bruno's credit, when Theo passed, Bruno really stepped up to the plate as the number one boy in the school.

The big wise dog.

The big wise dog. He really took on the role.

He did. I feel like maybe I don't say that enough. I love Bruno.

Oh, my gosh. I love you.

And Bruno fucking loves me.

Oh, he does. He loves his Auntie. That's so sweet. I'm so glad Bruno is getting his flowers today. We talk I love to talk a lot of trash about Bruno, but sometimes I just look at him. I was sitting with him this morning because whenever I'm sitting, he's like, Oh, girl.

Oh, sitting? He's like, I'm sitting?

I'm sad. Yeah, right. I was just like, he's such a good boy when he's not being crazy Rudini, Mr. Steal Your Snacks.

Now we're having this conversation about Bruno, and I do feel like we're skipping over a brief period of time. It wasn't all perfect when you had babies and you started blending. I feel like you went through a Romeo phase, too, where you guys just couldn't be bothered with Bruno, and he was just there.

No, sometimes I can't be bothered with Bruno, but he's fine with that.

Yeah, right.

And I've always said we have like, Stry o'clock, which are the evening hours, and he gets to co-sleep with us. And then the rest of the day, he knows his brothers have needs.

Yeah. Bruno Potter.

Bruno lives under the stairs.

But actually quite a very cool contraption, not like Harry Potter at all.

Yeah, no, he actually has, I would call it a beautiful cottage.

Yeah, the actually... When they were renovating their house, they built into the bottom of the stairs, like how Harry Potter had a door. There's a door, but it's a crate. And it's quite lovely. Yes. Do you worry ever about the structural integrity of your house? Because if one thing goes wrong, like Bruno's dead, if he's sleeping.

Oh, if the staircase were, too.

If something- Good thing he's never in there.

Yeah, right. Good thing he's always with his mama.

And let me tell you, having a dog is wonderful, obviously, but having a crate is so fucking ugly. If you care even a little bit about esthetics, this big black, wiry cage, it's so fucking ugly. So having your little built-in cottage is It's really a privilege.

Yeah, and he has a place to go.

And then people are like, Well, why don't you get one of those nice crates? I'm not spending that much money on a dog.

What's a nice crate?

If you go to Wayfair, they have really park- Oh, a little dog house. And they're like, Wooden. I'm just not there yet. Certainly not for Romeo. Maybe for Theo.

Does Romeo sleep with you?

No.

Oh, he doesn't? No. Well, he's still being trained.

Yeah, he's still being trained. The crate is really good for him. We never put him in the bed because we knew we were going to have a baby. When he was of age, where he could start sleeping with us, I was pregnant, and I was like, no, let's not get used to him sleeping because we're going to have to show him back in the crate. Then, when we started sleeping during the night, he could have, but my sleep is too important to me now. Yeah.

Oh, and not for Romeo.

Yeah. Oh, No, no. And like, yeah, no.

Understood. Well, that's what's the latest with the pups.

Yeah.

Rip Theo, Rip King.

It's always Rip Theo.

Rip King.

I know when I die, Like, Theo will be greeting me at the gates of heaven. I still have lots of love for Theo.

He's your soul dog, as Margot says.

No, I know. And that's like a cringe online term, except when we're talking about Theo. Like, he's my soul.

And you can't have more than one soul dog?

No, no, no.

That sounds like a movie, Soul Dogs.

Yeah. And it's like dogs on a plane. Soul Plane.

What's the dog's movie?

Marley and Me. Airbud? Yeah. Airbud's a real tearjerker, that Airbud.

Don't forget the Airbud, too.

That's where we got our Air buds. Nish inside joke.

I love listening to music on my Air buds.

Yeah, I actually don't.

Me neither. Accorded.

I'm in a corded phase, except I went to the gym yesterday, and I was moving. Obviously, that's what you do at the gym. And I frosted the cord. Oh, my God, they ripped the fuck out of my ears. It was actually a hazard. You shouldn't wear corded headphones to the Yeah, but at least when one falls out, you don't have to go scurrying under the machine looking for it like an air bud. That's where we got our air buds.

Yeah. Let's get into the stories. The stories are actually fun today. I'm excited to chit chat with my swarletude regarding the stories.

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Our first story, not to make it about ourselves, but the 2026 iHeartRadio podcast, nominees have been revealed. So iHeartRadio is one of the only institutions really taking the art of podcasting so seriously enough to give it an award show. They're not I'm calling it the Potties, which is a mistake.

Don't worry. We will one day fund the Potties, and we will give ourselves all the awards.

Free idea to iHeartRadio. It shouldn't be called the iHeartRadio Podcast Awards because it's just a mouthful. Well, but not only that- And they have their own podcast. It would be like the Netflix- It's an honor to be nominated. It would be like the Netflix movie Awards.

Yeah, exactly. So they should change the name and then have it be secretly funded by iHeart because that's like, seriously, Spotify doing awards for podcasts. You're going to give it to your Spotify. And so iHeartRadio has a lot of really popular podcasts, and they didn't only nominate I Heart podcast. We were nominated. We're not an I Heart podcast, but I don't feel confident that we'll win because I think there's another I Heart radio podcast in there, and they're obviously going to lift up their own shows.

However, it is fan voted. So if the toosters want to vote for us in best comedy category, feel free. Let's talk about the nomination. So your girls were nominated for best comedy podcast, and they don't want to complain.

No, of course. But I was also confused because there's a best pop culture podcast, and I guess we're funnier than we are pop culture.

It's like whoever did the nominees really gets it because we always say the point of the show is not pop culture, even though we do five pop culture stories per day, roughly 25 per week, so it's more. But the toaster at iHeart was like, it's not about pop culture. It's about the hilarious of Jackson Claude. Correct. So we were nominated for Best Comedy Podcast along with Good Hang with Amy Poehler. Great. The Golden Globe winning podcast. Yeah, right. Distractable, Handsome, and The Basement Yard.

Oh, do you know the basement yard? No. They're super funny. Who is it? It's Frank and his friend, who's the name I don't know. Their clips are literally a TikTok-built podcast. There are a lot of TikTok-built podcasts, but they have a lot of fans. They do big tours. They're super funny. They're like, one of them is a dad, one of them, I think, is just married. And they're just funny. Oh, great. They're very Brooklyn. I don't know where they're from, but they're so Brooklyn.

So who do you think will win?

Amy Poehler.

But do you think the good hangers are more fervent?

The I have a bigger honors, yeah.

Then the Toaster's.

Yeah, I do. Obviously, I can't say I think we're going to win, but I hope so.

The thing is, I actually feel free to vote for me. I'm not going to stop you. Oh, yeah.

Feel free to vote for me, too.

But I have no plans to go to the show, so I don't really like... It's an honor to be nominated. Yeah.

I am curious if this is like...

This is actually our first real big nomination, I would say.

I don't know.

And you're the Shorty Awards.

I also was nominated for two People's Choice Awards.

Oh, for The Toast?

Yeah, I did get a Please don't make me tell that story again. Yeah, no, that's true. Actually, I want to say I would love to win. Sorry, I'm not better than that. It is, of course, an honor to be nominated, but I just want to go on record saying, I want to win. So please, I will make multiple accounts and I will vote for myself, whatever. It's five times a day, whatever the rules are. But that's probably not enough to compete with Amy Poehler.

But I have no plans to go to the award show anyway. That's why this year, feel free to vote.

No, you guys...

But we just are trying to be cool. But if you want to vote for us.

Yeah, it's We're cool, but one thing about me, specifically, I won't drag you in with my... I'm unbelievably desperate for recognition. And this is- Is this the recognition you've been waiting for?

No. Best Comedy Podcast?

I haven't been waiting for it, but of course, it's an honor to be nominated.

Yeah, it really is an honor to be nominated. Now, we were also snubbed. Yes. In a category that I cannot believe exists. Me too. They found enough committees that weren't us.

No, it's actually disgusting that we were not nominated for best ad read. I mean, did Did you just hear that whole Wayfair snub, ha ha, thing, and then the Ollie callback?

This is disgusting. So they actually have a category for best ad read. We were not nominated.

I have to imagine that these are all I Heart podcasts, and this is I Heart's way of honoring their own sponsor.

But it's not. It's, Conan O'Brien needs a friend. Is he not I Heart? I don't think so. Let me look it up. Hold on. Call her Daddy, not I Heart. My Brother, My Brother and Me.

Okay, that's definitely my Brother. Hold on. My Brother, My Brother. No, it's not.

Dudes on Dudes. I need to see the specific ad reads that they're talking about because I really don't know how anyone can- Dudes on Dudes is iHeart. I don't know how anyone could do it better than Thuma.

Oh, I'm in place. Oh, by the way.

Even though they're not a sponsor anymore.

Dudes on the divisional round, is that what it was called? Nope. Oh.

Dudes on Dudes.

Oh, I'm sorry. Wait, hold on. Okay, Dudes on Dudes is an iHeart podcast. It is hosted by Gronk and Julian Edelman. I can imagine their ad reads might be funny, but I also can't see them caring enough because I've never heard of the show.

Fine. Distractables.

I'm on my way. Distractables is a Spotify podcast hosted by Mark Fishback, my favorite, Wade Barnes and Bob Muiskins. Muiskins? Muiskins. Thoughtful discussions about funny out otherwise interesting stories from everyday life. I don't know. I seriously can't imagine that they're coming up with original jingles like we are.

No. And doing live ad reads. Nobody does live ad reads. I actually don't know one person that does live ad reads. You know what?

I take it back. I don't want to win this award because an institution that wouldn't recognize our branded work is disgusting.

Right? So that honestly felt like a snub to me. And then I'll just share some other nominees. They have podcast of the Year, so that's the big one. Yeah, like movie of the Year. Movie of the Year, entertainer of the Year. Good Hang with Amy Poehler.

I do fear it's Amy's Year. I just want to say that. It was a big podcast this year. Yeah.

The Breakfast Club.

I feel like, first of all, that's iHeart, right? Because it's radio. I feel like it's probably radio show of the year. I don't necessarily think it's podcast of the air, just saying.

Mel Robbins podcast.

Just hold on. Can we talk about Mel Robbins?

I don't have a lot to say because it's missed me, but I think that's the point of what I want to say. It came out of nowhere.

So Mel Robbins is everywhere. She has books. I know Let Them was a really big thing. It's how I feel about The Weekend.

I feel like I actually practice the Let Them theory.

If you are a Mel Robbins super fan, please show yourself because, I don't know, something just thought adding up about her presence online.

I agree.

I think if you are the big... There is not a podcast that Mel Robbins won't go on. And I feel like if you are at a certain level, you do stop going on every single podcast to promote your own podcast. And just something about how low she'll go, it's confusing to me. Just saying.

Yeah. I don't know. But maybe it's just so not our thing.

That's what I'm saying. But I also, I haven't met someone who loves the Mel Robbins podcast. So that's why I just want... I'm definitely wrong because she's everywhere. But if you are a Mel Robin superfan, please show yourself in the comment.

I agree. Show yourself. Pablo Torre finds out.

Okay. Iheartradio podcast.

The Daily.

I guess. I just feel like, I don't know. Awards like this shouldn't be given to big corporations. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Give it to the little guy. 100%. The rest is history. Okay. This past weekend with Theovon.

Okay. I feel like actually he had a a quiet year, just saying.

Yeah. Call Her Daddy. Yeah. Heavy Wait.

The Claudia Asher story? Don't be rude.

And Giggly Squad. I just want to say, I feel like any award shows that don't nominate Joe Rogan, any podcast awards really can't be taken seriously.

I know people I like to exclude him as a political statement, but it does your right. It does take away- Whether you like it or not.

It's like when they don't nominate Morgan Wallen for best album, when he had the best album or when he was the entertainer of the year. You don't even have to give it to him. But by not nominating them, it seems unserious and extremely skewed.

That's actually a really good point. Now, can I make a prediction? I do think it's hard for me. Obviously, I live in my own world, right? In their only podcast. But I feel like if I haven't heard of your podcast, you were not the podcast of the year.

And we check the charts all the time. Yeah.

And I haven't even listened to podcasts, but I've heard of them. Right, of course. So I do feel like I can eliminate a couple from that one.

Well, do you want to predict your winner?

Well, I think it's either going to be... Well, I don't know who it's going to be because I don't know how these work. I don't know what the politics are. But for me, I think that the podcast of the year was either Good Hang or Giggly Squad. They really had a huge year. So that's my prediction. But I don't know who they're going to give it to because I don't know what the back philanthropy politics are.

I wish it was really like, votes-based.

Yeah, of course. I think they take in consideration who gets a lot of votes. But of course, the President of iHeart is back there yelling at people. Yeah.

Is he really going to let Theovon get up there and make a speech?

And shake that thing. I don't know. I don't know.

So very exciting for the industry. It's an honor to be nominated. Of course. I don't know where he can vote, but we'll be sure to let you know whenever we know.

Can you also tell me who was nominated for a pop culture podcast?

Oh, yes. Best pop culture, last culturistas.

Oh, but they are iHeartRadio, actually. If they weren't dealing with their big Jasmine Crocketgate, I do think they probably could have and would have won. And it wouldn't have been like a iHeart. They would have been deserving. Yeah.

Call Her Daddy, Therapus. That's got my vote. Giggly Squad.

Oh, I feel like they're more comedy than pop culture.

And Vile files.

Also having a rough week. But also that's part for the course. I don't think takes you out of the running if you're having a scandal.

No, that's what the podcast awards are about. They should have a category, best bounce back from a scandal.

Winner. I want to say I think Jake Shane could and should win. I agree. It's become a real destination. And I think this year, particularly. Everyone obviously called their daddy's big all the time. But in this year, particularly- About the year. Yeah. And I feel like a lot of music artists who otherwise would have gone on Call Her Daddy are now going to Jake. Luke Holmes is on. Did you see?

Yes, I did see. It's really like one or the other.

Yeah. For music people.

Yeah. I did see Luke Holmes. I'm excited to listen to that.

So I did... I had a feeling he was going on because Jake started posting a lot that he's in his Luke Holmes era. I'm like, Well, if he wants Luke Holmes, he can get Luke Holmes. So I was sending him songs. You have to listen to these songs. And I was sending voice memos. I'm like, Okay. And he also has a wife, and he has two kids. I was just giving him a little bit of backstory. So I'm feeling hopeful.

I think it's going to be great. That it's going to be Because I think, if anything, it's just going to be different than what we usually see from Luke. Yeah.

Luke on Joe Rogan, I'm sure if you're into hunting, a lot of that did go over my head because they weren't really talking so much about music. They were talking about their shared interest, which is just game.

Hunting, fishing. I love it every day.

And so obviously, I listen to it, but I was just lost for a good portion of it. And I don't think I'll be lost.

I think you'll be found. Yeah. You will be found.

No, not Ben Platt. Luke Holmes is a song.

Thank you. I didn't want to sing Ben Platt today. No, no, no. Are you ready for our next story? Actually some podcasting news that I do fear you're going to hate, but- Pete Davidson. Pete Davidson is launching a podcast, a video podcast, which is pretty interesting. So he's launching the Pete Davidson show, a new video podcast filmed in his garage. It will be streamed on Netflix. So he has announced the Pete Davidson show, a weekly video podcast filmed inside his home, inside his garage. He said that's where the best conversations happen. It launches on Netflix on January 30th. He said, Netflix was the home of my first standup special, so it felt right to bring the podcast there, too. It's me and my friends talking about anything and everything. It's going to be a great time.

So I saw, I don't know if you saw Liz Wood's posting about this. Apparently, there's a lot of controversy here because Netflix now making podcasts that are just talk shows, and they're going to be on TV, is a backwards way of creating a late-night interview show without having to pay union workers. The way you get Jimmy Fallon made or Jimmy Kimmel made is you need so much staff. There's so It's much more expensive and slow and classic TV. Whereas now in the digital age, podcast doesn't have any of that stuff. This is essentially the Pete David's a Joe. It's an interview show, like how David Letterman would be, but they don't have to deal with any of that union hogwash.

Says who, though?

Because if it's- Says Liz.

But if it's filmed in his garage, there's going to be camera operators, there's going to be producers.

Yeah, but they're not union workers.

How do you know that?

Because that's what they said on the story. I don't know. I'm saying it's not a union job.

And just because something's called a podcast, that just means not a union? Yes. Podcast means not a union.

Yeah. Thank you. I'm glad you got it.

Is there something in the union contract that says no podcast?

No, but if you're creating a show and you're doing it like- If you're creating a TV show. No, if you're creating any type of show, union makes it harder. It makes it more expensive. And so this is a way of very legally not doing that and just hiring regular camera guys.

So you think it's all about the union?

No, but I just think now we're at an intersection in media where forever TV has been unionized. And now with the podcasting game, it's just a little bit more free.

And the union is SAGafstra. Yes, it is. So this takes it back to Sagafstra.

All roads.

Lead to Sagafstra. Because I feel like when you say the union, the union, you might not realize it's Sagafstra. Right.

And that means you have to pay all your workers, give health care. It makes it- Back to the Afstra. It makes it expensive. And so this is the first big Netflix thing that's non-union.

Well, I look forward to hearing from Sagafstra regarding this matter. Yeah.

You know Fran, even though you know she's not the president anymore. Who is? For me, it will always be.

Fran. But that's fine. I'm ready for a new president. I feel like she was there for the big moment.

Yeah. When it mattered most, Fran was there.

President Sagafstra is Sean Aston.

Sly.

So I look forward to hearing from Sean. What they have to say about this backdoor.

In terms of the actual podcast. So we were talking earlier in the year that Netflix is in the business of accruing podcast. They did a big partnership with Spotify, and now they're making their own, which is just repackaged TV, right? Right. This is the David Letterman show.

But I guess it will also be on the podcast app and Spotify. So that's what makes it a podcast.

But everything, Netflix's originals are always only available on Netflix. Will this be available on Spotify?

And the Apple podcast.

And like, Apple and Stitcher?

Great question, because otherwise, it's just a show.

Right. That they're calling a podcast. And I think maybe that's where some of the controversy lies.

I'm not seeing that it's exclusive to Netflix. It launches on Netflix, and it's a podcast. So we better be seeing you in the app store.

Because you're not a podcast if you're not on Apple, just saying.

Yeah. What do you What do you think about Pete Davidson joining the podcasting sphere, if he is? I feel like it could be successful. Yeah.

The thing about Pete Davidson, it's so crazy, and this is going to be an extremely hot take. I don't even know if I want to say it. Maybe we'll cut it out. Like, In terms of his level of celebrity, he's not that accomplished, right?

That's what Chat said.

Oh, yeah. That's where that theory came from.

We did a Patreon. We did a Patreon a few weeks ago. It was just about pop culture. I'm going to ask. The prompt for us was Who do we think are the most overrated celebrities? And so we gave our answer- Can you remind me what you said about Pete Davidson and why he's overrated? But we also recognize that we're very biased because we don't consume everything all the time. So we asked Chat for an unbiased opinion of who are the most overrated celebrities based on their actual body of And one of the names, and by the way, they were spot on with a bunch of stuff. One of the people that they said was Pete Davidson. His celebrity is much bigger than his actual body of work.

So his public profile is over... This is what Chad says. His public profile is overwhelmingly driven by high-profile relationships rather than stand-out comedy, acting or writing. The Fame to output ratio is off.

The Fame to output ratio.

His comedy doesn't match the hype.

This is what Chad says.

He's likable and self-aware, but his stand-up and SNL work haven't really produced many iconic era-defining moments that justify people's obsession with him. He relies more on persona than craft, which I actually don't think is a crime. I think a lot of really funny do. But the sad boy, damaged but charming angle, carries a lot of his appeal that vulnerability reads as authenticity, but it often substitutes for range or evolution. Yikes. Pr and media culture do the heavy lifting. He became a symbol of the internet and press, latching on to messy relatable dating famous women. But that narrative snowballed faster than his actual body of work. So cultural curiosity is more than him as a cultural pillar. He's interesting to talk about, not necessarily essential to comedy. The attention he gets far outweighs his long term artistic impact. So I think there are a lot of huge comedians who would be like Netflix's first podcast who have a larger body of work. That's not to say that it won't be good or funny. And I think celebrities really like him. And so much of being an interview show is getting good guests. And when it comes to people feeling comfortable, I do think he'll pull a lot of people with the Netflix thing, and then also just him being himself.

But I feel like as a comedian, we don't really know him.

Yeah, I agree with Chad about the Fame to output ratio. However, I feel like that bothers Pete, too. That he doesn't want all of this. It's not like he drummed all of this up. I think he would rather people focus on the work rather than his Fame. I actually think this has the makings of a good podcast. One, like you said, he'll get good guests, but I feel like he's just a funny person. And that's what thrives.

That's what Chad says. It's more his persona.

Right. It's not about the one-liners and the crack and jokes, the stand-up. So I feel like that's what a good podcast is, someone who's just funny and can talk to friends and have a funny conversation and make us laugh. Also, him being a new dad now, I feel like maybe he'll have a lot of- Funny stories. Insights and just a new POV. I wouldn't be surprised if this became very popular, Good Hang with Amy Poehler. I feel like she was poised to be a good podcaster, and I could see the same for him. Now, I could also see it being another Pete Davidson project. Right. In the can. We hear about, that we talk about, and then we never talk about again.

Yeah, the thing with Amy Poehler is I think Amy really likes to work and is a hard worker. I think that's why her podcast is so successful. I don't think she just shows up. With Pete, I haven't gotten the vibe that he's a big hard worker. The thing about a podcast is you can really tell when someone's into it, no matter how big or famous they are, you can tell when they're just showing up and reading cards or that they really love it. I feel like that's what happened with Chloe. I feel like at first maybe things were really being done for her, but then she really started to like it. I think her podcast has gotten more and more successful because she's so in it. She picks the guests and she asks the questions, and yeah, she has a lot of help. I I don't know if I see that for Pete, wanting to really get in the weeds on it.

Yeah. We will see. We will see, but it's not a bad idea. No.

It's really interesting that not only is Netflix getting into the podcasting game, they're creating their own podcast. I'm curious where it's going to live. It has to live on the audio.

And by the way, if it doesn't go to the app store and Spotify, it's not a podcast. It's just a show. It will be the Pete Davidson show.

It's just a non-union show.

I'm calling SAG myself.

Yeah, and they would be right for being upset.

For sure. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm.

Oh, I see.

Nini Leaks sets Bravo return with Real Housewives' ultimate road trip. Nini Leaks is officially coming back to the Bravoverse with the Real Housewives' Ultimate Road Trip. The mother of all housewives and former star of Real Housewives of Atlanta is making her return to Bravo with the spin-off, which is celebrating 20 years of the Real Housewives franchise. She said, This has been a really long, long journey, and gosh, I'm happy, overwhelmed to say that I will be returning to Bravo. I almost can't believe the words that are coming out of my mouth. I'm just so happy. The Real Housewives' ultimate road trip follows a group of beloved housewives from across the years. They embark on a once-in-a-lifetime adventure, making their way through some of the most memorable locations in the franchise's history, starting where it all began in Orange County and culminating in an epic East Coast grand finale. Each stop will feature appearances by fan favorites from different cities to pay tribute to the past, embrace the present, and look toward the many miles still ahead.

So it's like an anniversary special. I, for one, I'm thrilled that Nini Leaks will be back on my TV, although I I'm confused because she was embrouled in a lawsuit. She was suing Bravo for serious allegations, including racism. And so I'm shocked that she would go back. Yeah. And I don't even know where we landed. There are a couple of housewives who, for me, I thought were just persona non grata. If you've ever been embrouled, a couple of housewives who were involved in the lawsuit, or at least speaking to that, was it Vanity Fair, about Andy, Liam McSweeney, you'll never be back. And I thought Nini was one of those, which is a shame because she's an O'G and she's iconic. I thought we would never see her again.

Yeah. I think that's why she's so shocked.

Right. And I thought that was not only her choice, but theirs also.

Right. On both parties. So that's why, obviously, they've made amends. They can come together, and I think she's excited for this. I want to say this show sounds like a good idea in theory, but in practice, I have no interest. No, this is- In watching a bunch of OGs come together and just talk about the thing. It's not going to be new moments. It's just rehashing the old.

This is for hardcore superfans. It's cute and it's fun, and it's a nice way to pay homage. I don't think it's going to be gangbusters. We need multiple seasons. I think it's going to be a one-time thing. And yeah, I'm not dying to watch it, but you never know.

It's just going to be a lot of like, hugging and oh my God.

Yeah. I don't think it doesn't sound like there's going to be drama. It just sounds like it's a produced anniversary special.

I imagine like an RV with a bunch of O'gees, and then they'll stop in different cities where they've done Housewives and see other housewives or go somewhere where they went on a trip and be like, Well, this happened here. I don't need a museum tour of the Real Housewives.

I don't either. But a bunch of O'gees on an RV doesn't sound bad. I just want to say that part. Something about an RV is just- She Claudia is addicted. It makes amazing television, scripted or otherwise. So yeah, Nini sharing a bus with like, Theresa. Like, okay, maybe funny. Yeah.

Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, the first episode of this season, they went on an RV.

And was it amazing?

No.

Oh. What show was I just... Oh, did they take an RV? Was it Van der Prump Rules?

Kardashian's.

Oh, that wasn't good because you know their asses did not sleep in that thing.

No, they did. I mean, Chris went...

Chris went home, but I just feel like it was fake. I did not get the vibe that they were actually doing it. But I feel like it was someone else. When they went to Big Bear or something, Vannerpump Rules, I think they went camping, right? And they took an RV? Maybe. I don't know. It's great TV. It can be great TV. So actually that element of the road trip part. Yeah, I agree with you. Like the Hall of Fame moments. Oh, here's where I threw up. I seriously don't give a fuck. But funny people like Nini being in close quarters, that actually could be funny because the thing about ultimate girls trip, it's still very lux. So it's just like a brand trip. I do like when they slum it. Like that Sonia and Ramona show. No, Sonia and Luanne. I don't know if it was popular. I liked it. It was very funny where they went to that random town in Illinois and tried to help the town. It was funny. So that simple life vibe. I'm just being optimistic.

That's really generous of you. I feel like oftentimes I would be, but I've realized I've watched none of these shows.

I've watched a couple. Nini does not do things poorly. She's just a funny person. Anything that she's a part of will be funny. And so they were right to bring her back. There aren't a lot of housewives. I think a lot of housewives think that they have that. They're like, Everything I do is so great. And it's just like, actually not. I've watched Ultimate Girls Trip. Where did we ever land with that? Because they were doing them, and they were getting a little bit more successful. And that Morocco trip, which never made air because- Caroline Brandy. Yeah. Did that end the Ultimate Girls trips for good?

I don't know. And now there's so many other things, like traders.

Yeah. I do feel like when Bravo was trying to bring old people back, that was one of the first projects, and it didn't- I liked the first one,.

Me, too.

With the Jersey Housewives. Ramona was there.

Kyle was there. It was really like, icons only.

But I feel like then Bravo found success with other and didn't need to do that ultimate girls trip anymore. I think it was expensive. I think a lot of those women won't do anything for less than a lot of money. Yeah.

Are you ready for our fourth story?

Oh my God, no. So sorry.

No, that's okay.

Oh my God. I'm so fucking for clams. Hold on.

That's okay. Take your time. I'll give you space to get ready for the fourth.

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I was just like, maybe I shouldn't say that because people might go to Booking. Turdy. It's always the risk I run.

I know, but that's where personal accountability needs to take into place. Why would you be going to Booking. Turdy? I don't know.

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Yeah, with the call to action. So don't go to Booking. Turdy. Go to Booking. Com. I feel like we're even outperforming our ad rates ever since we've been snubbed.

I know. We have to show them. Yeah.

We'll show gronk.

Yeah. Our next story, Justin and Haley Bieber are loyering up against a TikToker over abusive marriage allegations. So Justin and Haley have loyered up against a TikTokeer who claimed that they had an abusive marriage fueled by the singer's alleged drug addiction. The couple's lawyer sent social media user Julie, a cease and desist, claiming she fabricated her story about their marriage, per TMZ. In the letter obtained by the outlet, the lawyer writes that the psychologist has allegedly spread, quote, outrageous, false, fabricated, and defamatory statements she made and disseminated online.

Imagine being a psychologist and you're making videos about Haley Bieber. I just want to say, get off TikTok and get back to your clients.

He also claimed she manufactured, quote, a false defamatory narrative concerning our clients and their marriage that were published and widely disseminated, noting that her conduct is wrongful, highly damaging, actionable, and exposes her to substantial liability. He went on to demand that she immediately take down the videos in question as well as stop posting that the Bieber's are in an abusive relationship. If she doesn't, the couple would have no choice but to protect their rights and remedies against you. He concluded the letter by reminding Julie that she acts at her own peril and to govern herself accordingly.

Now, I know people are like, Oh, big bad celebrity, rich people coming for the little guy. And I just want to say this, fuck around and find the fuck out. I literally don't care. And yes, I'm a toxic Haley Peeber stand, and I'll probably support anything she does. Having said that, people on the internet are far too comfortable being mentally ill and actually just saying things, whatever comes to their mind. And not only do I think this girl, you can't just say someone is a drug addict and abusive. Those are big things and saying them As a professional, people would look at a psychologist and be like, Oh, well, she obviously is smart. She sees something we don't see. So you can't just say whatever the fuck you want. And I also like what message not only this sends to this particular person, but to people who want to be crazy and just say stuff in general. I like this.

And to people who I don't want to diagnose people that they don't know, that they've never met, who want to yield degrees that they have and education that they have and project it onto people that they've never met. I think that's not something that you should do.

I could see people being like, Well, Haley and Justin, you're so famous. Why are you bothering with a random TikTokeer? And it's like, Normalize stuff bothering you.

I was going to say that surprise me about this is that they saw it, that it bothered them, that it bothers them enough to do something about it.

I didn't even see it.

Oh, really? It's not what's going everywhere on TikTok.

No, but still, it must have gotten big enough to get across her desk.

She had this theory that they're in an abusive dependent.

Right. And so that this relationship will last forever because Haley is codependent on an abusive narcissist, really using all the big buzzwords. And it's like, Girl, you literally don't know these people. Why don't you, like I said, get back to your clients. And actually- Maybe not get back to your clients. I like that this story is becoming public because if I find out that my psychologist is being sued by Haley Bieber for making TikToks, I, for one, I'm glad because I have a new psychologist now. Haley is actually doing a service to this woman's clients because you can't have a psychologist who's making TikToks. I'm sorry, you can't. I feel that way about a bunch of industries. Whenever I see someone like, Oh, I'm a blank, and you have a TikTok following, I'm like, Well, you'll never be my blank. I know social media is for everyone, but it's really not.

No, I saw that recently, and I had the same thought of, How can you be in a certain profession and be making these TikToks?

It's really finicky. When I see plastic surgeons who do like, Here's what I think this celebrity has had done. I'm like, Okay, well, I'm literally never going to you. It's very finicky with doctors. I do think doctors can be on social media, but it's such a private thing that I would prefer that they're not. I just would.

But some people do it well with doctors.

Educational content. But if you're making viral buzzy content on TikTok and you're a doctor, you're never my doctor. Sorry, you're just not.

Yeah.

Same. Like a therapist. When I see therapists making... I obviously don't go to therapy, but if I ever did, I would make sure that they don't make TikToks because that's fucking crazy. I'm sorry. Social media is not for everyone.

Yeah. So maybe she will cease and desist after this, and maybe people will take heed.

I just think you should think before you say something.

Yeah.

I'm surprised we've never gotten a letter.

To cease and desist. I mean, we don't- We don't say allegations. We don't go around diagnosing people. We don't. We just make jokes. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. Bad behavior. Kiefer Sutherland has been arrested after allegedly assaulting his ride share driver. Oh my. Yeah.

Is there a dash cam footage?

I'm not sure, but he was arrested shortly after midnight on Monday, January 12th. Officers responded to a scene near Sunset Boulevard, where Kiefer Sutherland was found. Officers from LAPD responded to a radio call regarding an assault involving a ride share driver. The investigation determined that the suspect, later identified as Keith or Sutherland. Kiefer. Kiefer. Entered a ride share vehicle, physically assaulted the driver, the victim, and made criminal threats toward the victim, the driver.

Oh my God, here I am. Like, always telling celebrities not to drink and drive, take an Uber. And then this one takes an Uber and beats up his driver. Like, seriously, celebrities are sick. They are sick. I don't even know what to say here. This is fucking crazy. Yeah. Oh my God. Like, seriously, Uber drivers don't get paid enough to deal with people's bullshit. Usually it's verbal assault. Physical assault is so crazy. It's just insane. You, a celebrity, a man. Like, what are you doing?

I don't know.

I need a psychologist to diagnose this because that is really not normal.

No, that's really bad. Kiefer.

Yeah, Kiefer.

Kiefer.

And you know who his dad is?

Donald, Rip, King, Rip, President Snow.

Not a lot of people know that.

Well, they're both Sutherland.

Benicio Del Toro and Guillermo Del Toro.

Yeah. The Sutherland boys.

He wrecked.

Donald, he would not be pleased to hear about this.

Oh, I don't think my father, President Snow, would be too pleased to hear about this.

Yeah. So...

Just don't beat up your Uber drivers. I feel like that's a good message to leave everyone with.

Yeah.

Like, even like, I've had- It's a rule of thumb, you know? Even if you want to, let it be an exercise in restraint.

Just walk away.

Yeah. That's really crazy. Like, this person is literally driving driving you home. Like, it's insane. Everything comes back to driving.

It really does. It really does. But yeah, I don't...

Tisk, tisk, Kiefer. Tisk, tisk.

Those are the fast five stories, it feels, though. They were weird. You needed to know, but they were fun.

I had a blast. I, for one, enjoyed myself.

What was your favorite one?

Oh, I'm so glad you asked. We should do this at the end.

What was your segment?

I feel like the Hailey Bieber one. Oh, really? I just feel like I had a couple of funny lines.

Oh, that's good. I feel like for me, obviously the podcast is yours, but I do get a little insecure that people don't care as much as we do when we talk industry.

Yeah, there are a couple of topics.

I was enjoying myself, but I was feeling insecure. Yeah.

You were enjoying yourself knowing you would get hate. The life of a pod,.

But I did enjoy the Pete Davidson one because I know people like talking about Pete Davidson. I don't, but I like the other subjects in that story, like podcasting. Future of the industry, Sagafstra. I got to say Sagafstra today, you guys. It was a good one. I'm happy.

I'm happy, too.

Job well done.

Now, Traitors comes out tonight. I do believe it's multiple episodes, again.

I heard. Let's recap it Monday. I enjoy the show. I want to enjoy it. Me, too.

Ben got in bed last night. He was like, he's obsessed. He was like, Do we have any more traitors?

You know what? Maybe this will give my husband some time to catch up because I wind up having to watch without him. And then we could watch it together because that's fun for the whole family. Agreed. I'm trying to think who he's a fan of that's on the show. Well, he'll enjoy the Donna Kelsi until he gets in.

Yes, yes. The limited Donna. She had a little stroke.

The limited Donna. Oh, you sent me a video. I didn't even get to discuss it with you. So we answered our question yesterday, When do the faithfuls find out who the traitors were? And when they get eliminated, they get that note saying they've been murdered, and then the producers tell them who it is in films, their reaction.

Which I'm obsessed with. If you go to the social media accounts, you'll see Portia and Donna both finding out who the traitors actually are.

And they also share their guesses as to who the traitors were.

And let me say Donna and Portia both guessed nobody correctly. And then every time they flipped a card, they were like, I knew it.

That Portia, literally, she gave her guesses. They were wrong. And then saw every card, was like, Lisa Renna, I knew it.

Rob, I knew it. No, you didn't. You didn't because we literally just asked you who you thought it was.

I thought that they asked who you... I'm so glad we're literally, no, you didn't know.

No, that's a new favorite part of the show for me is people's reactions because I imagine it's like such a mind fuck. Donna, too, was like, Oh, I knew it. No, you literally didn't. We just saw you not know it.

But no, even if she knew it, she wasn't going to nominate... Oh, yeah, because she knew it.

No, because we The producer sits them down and was like, Who do you think it was?

Who do you think it was?

None of them got it right. And every person's reaction was like, I knew it. But you factually didn't. We just saw that. Now you're a liar. That's our show, you guys. Thank you so much for listening to the Tustle Monday Morning Show. We love the fast-time stories. You need to know everybody on the Friday on YouTube. So watching us on YouTube, please subscribe, please give us a thumbs up. Also available as a podcast, and we're back as we found. So that's about our iTunes. It's your probably, and you guys. I hope you have a beautiful sounding. I'm Michalita. We are. Hope you have an amazing day, and we will see you tomorrow.

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