Transcript of Rumors and Nastiness: Friday, January 9th, 2026

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Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Friday.

Friday, fried derries. We I did it, you guys. First week of the new year in the can.

I think a lot of people look forward to the first Monday in May. Personally, it's always going to be the first Monday in January for me.

The Monday in January?

Because that means we're back. Depending on where the new year falls, we're always just taking off until that first Monday.

Until that first Monday.

In a couple of years, the first Monday will be January second, and that will be the worst January second on the planet. I agree. I just feel like that year, one of us needs to get pregnant, so we're on maternity leave.

We're on, yeah. No, but the beginning of the new year is always gangbusters. This week has been so much fun. We've been busting the gangs. We've been busting the gangs. You're here with me. We're together. Redheads came out last night like I said that it would. Nature is healing.

Amen to that, sister.

How are you doing?

I'm doing well. How am I doing? What did I do last night? I watched the most upsetting documentary, The Perfect Neighbor. Do not watch it.

I'm not going to watch it. I was going to ask, do I need to hear about it? Are you going to tell us about it?

It was an interesting feat in documentary making because it was the first documentary I've ever seen without any interviews, without any experts. The entire thing was comprised of police body camera footage. They told the whole story. It was about this crazy woman who lived in this really cute neighborhood with a ton of different kids who were always playing out in the yard, always playing in different yards. It was this real community, and she was this curmudgeon. And anytime the kids would be even remotely within distance. And she's a renter, by the way.

I've heard this story.

It was a two-year long story. They literally show all the body camera footage every single time she called the police on these lovely kids every single time. And everyone in the police, all the everyone in the neighborhood knew about this crazy curmudgeon. She How did he fucking end up killing one of their moms. And the mom was just such a fucking real one. It was just very upsetting. And they were showing us a lot. I don't want to talk about it. It actually really upset me. I was crying.

I didn't want to hear about it. It really upset me.

I was crying.

Protect your peace.

Yeah, I know. I didn't know. I was just looking for something to watch until Trader's because Trader's was on at 9: 00 PM.

That's not going to work.

Yeah. I'm going to have to get back on our screener shit.

Oh, we should get... Wait, I think we do get screener.

Yeah, I know. Because I was waiting up till 9: 00. I forgot about screeners.

It's been so long because I want to watch the Valley, Persian-style.

I fell asleep at 9: 07, so no. But I will be watching all three episodes of Trader's by Monday. So if you came here looking for the Trader's recap, we said Monday.

We did. We wanted to give everyone the weekend to watch it.

But still, stay and enjoy this episode. We're going to have a grand old time. And then your Traitors episode comes out on Monday.

Yes. I did something crazy last night. Crack? Crazier.

Meth.

I started a book for fun. That's insane. That's insane. Not for the redheads, just for fun, to lull myself to sleep. And I chose a book that I had already purchased in my library but never read. Okay, frugal. Yeah. Like, giving economical. Frugal. That's the thing that I bought.

That's my influence. It's by something new. That's my influence on you.

It's not the new Ellen Hildebrand, but a Ellen Hildebrand called Swan song. And the way she just eases right in the book, she really takes the edge off.

With books, there are a couple of authors who are trendy and viral, and everybody reads their book that comes out. And I find that more often than not, it's not worth the hype. But Ellen Hildebrand is bitch for a reason. Not all of her books are the best books ever. A couple of her books are the best books ever, but all of her books are good.

She stays winning. One thousand. An author you can trust.

There's so few things, so few institutions that are trustworthy these days.

And who she is as an author, is Congress with the books- Who she is in real life? The books that she writes. You know what? Sometimes you find your smutty author and it's like, Oh.

No, not even that. I can't read that. If you have a favorite author, it is imperative that in order for them to remain your favorite author, you You never see a picture of them. It just ruins a fantasy, smut or not. It's true. It's none of our business. And you know that little flap on the book where they put the author photo? The industry needs to get rid of that. So much of bookwriting is fantastical, unless it's a biography, in which case you're on the cover. Get rid of author photos. Authorship can be a completely blind industry.

I agree. Speaking of favorite author, it's not to sour the mood again.

Who did you start beefing with again?

No, my favorite author passed away. So Sophie Kinseela.

Oh, we never reported on that because it happened over the break. That was really sad. She was very young.

Yeah, she had a brain cancer. She's my favorite author. She wrote Confessions of a Shopaholic series, amongst other swirly novels that everyone would love. And so in her honor, you should pick up a Sophie Kinseela book. She was seriously one of a kind.

And her influence on this podcast in indirect ways, like Nose No Man, Men Like You are the reason I left Finland.

We love Confessions of a Shopaholic movie, spawned from our love of the book, which she wrote. And that movie wasn't appreciated in its own time. People weren't ready for it.

Well, it also is a movie about excessive spending and wealth. And it hit the theaters the day the market crashed.

In 2008. It was bad.

So Ila Fisher was robbed of her Oscar because of the financial crisis.

And it's such a shame because there are so many books in the series that are all amazing and hysterical.

And they would have gotten the movie adaptation.

And we would have had amazing movies for life if that movie came out at the right time. But maybe now people can watch and appreciate it.

I miss days where books were very rarely adapted into movies and TV shows. Now, it's the only films and movies that come out are adaptations, and it's just... It's not good. But I feel like back in the day when things got adapted, they were chosen. It was special. And they were created with a lot of thought and care.

And they were created. They weren't just selected, not created. Like Gossip Girl, unless you not forget.

Oh my God. Yeah, they became so big. Twilight, you forget that they were based on books.

Hunger Games.

Hunger Games, Yes. Something Borrowed. Literally the best adaptation of all time.

Harry Potter.

Also an adaptation. Yes, I forgot about that. But I feel like the books are as big as the movies, whereas sometimes the movies or the media, Eclipse, the actual book.

Game of Thrones.

Yeah, Game of Thrones. I actually know one person who read the book.

The show is bigger than the book at this point.

Much too good for children. Let's do with you? What did you do last night? Oh, you started your book.

I started my book. I edited The Redheads. It was a very intellectual evening for me.

Whatever the opposite of intellectual is, that's what I did. Yeah.

But we're going to have some change going on at the Redheads in order to set us up for success.

I mean, okay, not to make everything about me. I've been telling you for years to hire an editor. Jackie, you're very me like that. You're so passionate about it. You refuse to let go of any... Delegate.

I'm very hands-on with the red heads. And one, we're going to have help editing. But two, another thing that I floated past the girls that they were not about. Video? No, we do record video, but we don't have that big of an audience where we can really be splitting it up. I guess.

But if you want to have a bigger audience, you do that through video. Just saying.

Oh, that's true. No, but we have video if we wanted to do clips or stuff. But it's not pargy. You're all in different places.

It's hard to do video when you're all not in the same state.

Yeah, we all... It's just...

Okay, but what's the other change?

No. So usually I host the show. I do the outline, I choose the questions, and then I move the show along for every single book. Only when I became pregnant did the girls start doing the recap, summarizing the book that they chose because I was running out of breath. So it necessitated change, which was a good thing. Now everyone just does the brief description of the book.

I feel like when you choose the book, you should get a little bit more homework for the episode.

So it used to be your homework was that you have to do the summary for anyone who didn't read the book or just to remind us all of what happened in the book. Now, I'm like, I think the person who chose the book should lead the episode. Okay. Choose the questions. I'll help move us along, but you should be the discussion leader if you chose the book. I was editing last night. I'm like, I'm sick of hearing myself. And I feel like switching it up will just make for more- An injectable It's like a new life into the Redheads. Girls were like, No, but you're so good at it. I'm not really that great at it. You are. I think they could do it. So we are going to try that. And then we're also going to have a set date. We always talk a week before the episode needs to come out, be like, When can everyone record? These girls are so busy. We're all so busy. I think we all sing. So now it's going to be the first Monday of the month or the Monday before the episode, we record at three o'clock every single time.

Don't put anything on your calendar.

That will make it easier. Yeah.

Clear the decks. That gives us then four days to edit. So major change coming to the red heads because it's necessitated.

I know that was hard for you. Yeah.

I'm glad.

What's hard for me? Just offloading, changing.

No, it's not hard for me. It just never really occurred to me. It was working for so long, and then the last few months, it's not working. We can barely get an episode out. So change is coming to the Redheads. It's never too late to become a Redhead. Redheads always pops off in January because everyone has New Year's resolutions to read more, to do more intellectually stimulating things. And let me make it easy for you, join the Redheads. We read a book a month, and then we do a hysterical podcast episode.

That's definitely the cadence at which I'm now reading, if I'm lucky, one book a month.

You should join the Redheads. I should.

I know- I pick and choose the Redheads. And also, the good thing about the Redheads It's like, yes, you can stay tuned every week. You can also just go read a book that you guys have read and then go listen to the episode, which I've done a million times.

We've read, not to be crude, 69 books. I feel like we should just end it now. Yeah, right. I just want to say 69 books is so many books.

So many books. There was a year that I read 60 books. That's insane. That is insane. I really had no life. Oh, my God. Do we have a story today about Dibbs?

No.

You know, Kelsey Ballerini's dog died.

Oh, I didn't know his name was Dibbs, and it's not a story, but I did see that he passed.

So sad. I feel like a lot of people were following along on that journey. And not to genuinely make everything about me, but obviously, I felt really- Tied to the story.

Yeah.

Her story was a little bit different than mine, but her sole dog, the dog that she had most of her adult life, got cancer. And then he actually lived with cancer for a year or two. And I feel like on the heels of I sit in parks and then her soul dog dying, I just want to make a PR prediction. I do feel like Kelsey Ballerina is going to get pregnant in a year. That's what happens. I'm just saying.

Yeah. But I think regardless of the No, no, not regardless of the dog. And she said in her song, and she's a woman of a certain age.

Regardful of the dog. Not regardless. The dog is a huge key player. I'm telling you. You heard it here first.

I feel like that's saying, Claudia O'Sher is going to podcast this year?

Okay, no, it's not. No, it's not.

Okay, here's what would be the more...

Oh my God, it's so quiet.

What's the word?

Oh, girl, you're talking to the wrong person. I don't know.

What's the word? Like less predictable. Will Chase be the father?

Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's... Yeah. Okay, cool. Here's our prediction. I love that. Be our prediction. What are the stories today? It's Friday. We have Queeny and Weanie of the Week. I'm really excited for mine. So many people came to mind when it came to Weanie.

Yeah, starting out the year in a Weanie-like manner. But it's never too late to change your year.

Actually, starting the year out in a Weanie-like manner, it's a good place to start because it's only up from here. You can only become queen.

You don't think how you spend the early days of the new year or how you're going to spend your year, that prophecy?

It could go either way.

Yeah.

I did want to say something. I've seen a lot of what people are saying online, and I wanted to talk about it, if I may.

You want to address the rumors?

No, not necessarily address the rumors, but just speak on something if I could.

Oh, I love that.

So the top comment on our YouTube yesterday was that we have too many ads. Dedicating 30% of your show to ads is insane. Now, I just wanted to I very quickly set some expectations for everybody because we're so, especially me, I'm so mindful of the minutes to ads ratio. Yesterday's episode was 50 minutes long, 5: 0. The amount of ads we had ran about seven minutes and 30 seconds. That's actually not 30%, it's about 15. Actually, I think it's 12. Excuse me. And just so you know, a standard episode of TV that we all watch without complaining has about 30% of its time being ads. So we're way under the industry standard, and I just didn't appreciate people coming for my bag. I'm always mindful of it. You don't need to be.

I didn't appreciate it either. I felt like yesterday's episode, I didn't even notice that it was shorter.

It's insane when we put out an episode less than an hour, like the vitriol that's sent our way. Would it be better if we put out a longer episode that runs on and is boring?

We're just dragging. We said what we said. Yeah. I didn't feel like there was anything left to be said yesterday.

Me neither. And when I finished, I was like, Things we did? I didn't even notice.

I actually looked at the time and I was like, Oh, I guess it's earlier than I thought. Sometimes that happens. Are we not allowed to have a 50-minute episode?

But podcasts are roughly 45 to 60 minutes. That's what average podcasts do. Now, of course, we are not average.

If you want to come for ads to content ratio, you can't start with us.

But if we are If we are coming for ads to content ratio, there is a conversation to be had. Not about us.

Yeah. And then once you talk about everyone else, then you can talk about us. Right. Per usual, we like to start at the top of the.

I did the math because it was piss me off. So yeah, it's 15%. That's what our episode was yesterday. And in a 30-minute TV show... Okay, if you want to know because I asked Chad. In a 30-minute TV show, commercials typically make up about 8-9 minutes. That equals to roughly 27-30% of the total run time. Yesterday's episode had seven minutes and 30 seconds of advertisements, which is 15% of our episode. So we are about half the media average for our tiny little Instagram show. So take it up with David Ellison, not me.

Thank you.

Take it up with Ted Serandos. Do Do you know the viral- Pick it up with Bob Dylan. What's his name? Bob Iger.

Do you know the viral sound from Real House, Guys of Salt Lake City? The rumors and Nastyness. What's so funny about watching the show, from from years ago was, I don't know what the viral moments were. And it wasn't until the reunion when Andy was like, Let's address the rumors and nastiness. I was like, Oh, yeah, that is hysterical.

Yeah. And it's Meredith who says it. And she has a little bit of lip impediment. Rumors. And a British accent. Well, that's so Meredith. The rumors and nastiness. Yeah, that's it.

Yeah. She's a little lit when she said it. Who isn't? And she also is now coming out with a card game called The Rumors and Nastyness.

Love that.

Yeah. Hysterical stuff. So you wanted to address the rumors and nastiness.

Yeah. I just don't appreciate that because that's something I'm really mindful of. And I listen to other podcasts. Oh, and there's an amazing button. On TV, there's not a button.

It's not a button. It's more of a procedure that is imperfect, where you have to scroll.

Yeah, but no, not if you're watching something live. You can't. Oh, live.

You can't hit the FF.

Yeah. I don't appreciate that. We don't monetize our YouTube. We're really mindful.

Yeah, I agree.

I love you guys. I just want you to know I love you more.

Let the mouse go.

When you say you love me, know I love you more.

Who sing that?

Miley.

Lead it to Miley.

One of the meanest things you've ever said in the history of this show, we might have a walk off. How could you? How could you do this to me?

What I more so meant was you and Miley do not have the same register.

I actually disagree.

You think you and Miley... There are some artists who you should sing their songs because you're in the same key.

So I'm glad you brought that up. People I am in the same key with, Barbra Streisand, Leah Michelle, and Lady Gaga, underrated. I sing every single one of Lady Gaga's songs, sick Myli.

Oh, I love that. So not Miley. So that's all I was saying. Well, I stepped right into that one.

And Miley, obviously. When you say you love me. Yeah, no, it's not in my key. No, I... I could do it. Love you more. It's not bad, obviously. It's better than whatever you could do.

I didn't even mean to be so shady.

It's just naturally in your bones. Yeah. Shabbat Shalom.

Shabbat Shalom. I'm going to have Shabbat with my swirls tonight. Yeah. Shabbat with the swirl.

Hopefully, you leave that toxic energy at the home.

Hopefully, you sing in your key when you do the blessings.

This fucking bitch. There are a couple of things you could attack me for. Water off a duck's back. You're fat, you're ugly, you're dumb. You can sing. Because I know they're not true, right? But my singing voice is so personal to me. It's this thing that I... I'm shy about, if you will.

So you agree. You think you're really shy.

I mean, I said the other day, Yeah, I'm shy. That's That's what everyone says at me. She's so shy.

And you were saying that in earnest?

Yeah, I'm shy. Ernestfully.

I agree.

And you know what? Fine. Yeah, I'm fucking shy, okay? Because when you're not shy, there's so much pressure on you. When I go to a dinner party, it's like dance, monkey dance. Do you know how many times I've gotten up in front of a dinner party and just started singing because people are like, You sing, you have to sing. And it's like, Well, I'm not going to be the shy girl. So, yeah, I'm fucking shy. If that's what it takes, everybody to leave me the fuck alone. I'm shy.

Finally, an admission. It only took three days. It only took all week.

I said it three days ago.

Yeah, that's true. Do you feel too shy to get into the fast five stories?

Yeah. Okay, I'm shy. I don't want to do my work. I just want to be shy because shy people get away with it. They're like, Oh, she's shy. She was not rude. She's shy. But me, it's like, well, she's not shy. She was obviously being a bitch. I'm shy. I want everyone in the world to know I am shy. Stop asking things of me. There's just so many big requests when you're not a shy person. Nobody asks. You are shy.

It And they ask less of you. No, but it's still problematic because I do a show.

Whatever. Everybody has their own shit.

If you're a showman, how are you shy? I'm like, I'm just talking to my sister.

I just want to say I'm shy. Officially shy. Stop asking things of me. I'm not your entertainer. I sometimes feel like the bearded lady in Greatest Showman.

Do you think you become shy late in life?

Not about late in life. I think I've become a little bit more closed off. Not to be so annoying. The more famous I've become, I'm famous. It's actually a burden. I know what all those bitches were saying now, like fame is toxic. It's not toxic, but it's very hard to operate. It's hard to go to music class or mom stuff. When you're just a famous person, you're like, What is she doing in this music class? You know what I mean?

Yeah. She should be up there shaking that thing.

Well, that's for damn sure. If all this doesn't pan out, I do know what I'm doing next.

You'll be interviewing for Fisher Price.

No, I will be starting my own... In the city, it's called Little Maestros, one of the Juliet and Ella. I will be doing one of those.

Okay. And it's going to be called Coji's Corner. That's so cute.

Oh, so cute.

But the thing- It's like your aunt alias.

Yeah.

And so you're bringing Auntie vibes to the class.

For sure. That's it.

Okay. Well, I'll sign up.

If anybody asks, I'm shy.

You have a customer for life.

In you. In me. Yeah. And I know you are very whatever the opposite of thrifty is. So I'm looking forward to doing really well in my next career.

Cha-ching, cha-ching.

Cha-ching, Koji's corner.

Are you ready for the pastime stories that you two need to do?

We're having so much fun.

We are. But I know you only have so much van with being so shy, and so I want to just get you while you- It's so true. Before your social battery.

But I'm being mindful of the minutes.

Before your social battery runs out.

Yeah.

Do you have a social battery?

Do I have a social battery? Of course I do.

But you have a battery.

Yeah, but I have a social battery, but it's not like- You don't need batteries to play. It's not that I lose battery talking to It's like I lose the will to live talking to people. Do you know what I mean? It's not that I have no energy to talk to people. It's that I just, I really can't. My threshold for socialization. It's not a social battery. It's a social threshold. I can't. When people like my social battery, I'm like, Yeah, me too. But it's just like, I don't want to be here anymore. I physically can. I just genuinely don't.

You're at 100% and you could take this social battery somewhere else?

Oh, yeah. To my family. See, with you guys, when I stay at your house, everybody's I'm not going to bed. I'm like, Wait, we're not hanging out. I have unlimited social battery for key people.

You have unlimited familial battery. It's regenerative?

Yeah. Also, look at the few key friends.

They don't train you.

No, no, no, no, no. Okay.

Mark's safe.

Yeah. For now. But keep coming for my singing, and we'll see where that lands you.

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Our first story, an update in the Story of the Week, Celebrity Mom Group Drama. Mandy Moore is speaking adjacently about the issue.

Megan Trehner is speaking directly to the issue. Although I didn't really understand her TikTok, I just want to say.

I had to watch it without sound.

Oh, that's so funny. You want me to play for you?

I just saw her typing, but I need to hear the sound. Because I was in a nap trap and I couldn't play it.

While I'm going to her TikTok, it's just a great reminder to everyone listening to our show. You can follow me on TikTok at Roll with No Job. Okay, ready? Megan Markel, trainer, made a TikTok. She's typing on a computer. The text says, Me finding out about the apparent Mom Group drama. It's a Megan trainer song called Still Don't Care. So we see she's using that as a promotional opportunity, which we respect. This is a business.

As you should. This is the biggest story in the country right now.

And it's probably one of the biggest, most mainstream things to happen to Megan, Markel trainer in a while.

She's been doing well for herself, I just want to say.

No, she has a really nice career. Longevity, for sure. She's had a huge boost with TikTok. But in terms of big mainstream things that everyone's talking about.

You can't pay for this viral moment. I saw also her husband, Juni Cortez, was saying something. Everyone should get in on this, capitalize on this. Mandy Moore took to Instagram to rave about Hilary Duff's husband, Matthew Koma. So she's throwing her weight behind the Koma Duff side of things, the Tisdale. And everyone's just falling into place, and it's very much-Clear. Tisdale v the women. And it's very much, again, don't let them gaslight you. They're talking about this celebrity mom group.

Yeah. Everyone's addressing it in their own way. Some people are taking it as an opportunity to promote, which is great. It's hard to get attention as a woman in media these days. And also, Mandy Moore then... Mandy Moore was one of the most famous people to have lost a lot in the California Wildfires, and it It was the one year anniversary. The thing that she posted yesterday about Matthew Koma was that he's such an amazing person. I believe that he provided a lot of housing for Mandy and her family when they were displaced. It's like, Well, now we've brought up the fire.

Also, I wanted to address because people are saying that the reason why the women fell out with Ashley is because when the fires were happening, she was insensitive, perhaps toned up, as Matthew Koma said, because she was posting about her new house that she's building and making about the house that she has. Not an Poopoo.

You don't have a house, but I've got a new one.

While other people are losing their houses. Now, I just want to say, I do feel like you can read into that, and you only read into that and see the negative in that when you already didn't like the person.

Yeah, but also I don't actually think that that's that. I I think these grown women can hold space for two truths, like Manny more lost her house, and Asha Tizzle has a new house, like two things. And as of Thanksgiving, they were all hanging out. So that's almost a year after the fire. I don't know. I think now it's like, well, in hindsight, she was posting about... No.

No, but I also think when you already don't like someone, you find fault in everything that they post, and you could see that and be like, She's tone deaf, as opposed to if it was your best friend and you love her and she's just doing her thing and posting, you're not like, you So.

I'm not working into it that deep, it's just like, Oh, she's got a nice house. That's nice.

Yeah.

The crazy thing is that now that all these women have responded, it's clearly confirmation that this story was about this particular mom group. And the fact that Ashley, not only wrote so many articles about it, died for the attention, got the attention, backtracked, and then lied and said it was not about this particular mom group. It's so lame, and it's such a bad... I don't know what she was expecting from this. She was really begging for it. She was posting about it a lot. She wrote this article. She got some traction from it, wrote another one. I don't know what she expected, but the outcome has so not been pro- Ashley. It's really got to be a bad day at the Tisdale French household.

I just would love to see what the mom group chat is saying right now.

Well, if anything, it's been the biggest validation on them kicking her out. They had a bad feeling about her before. I can only imagine how they're feeling about her now.

Yeah. They're probably cackling.

Yeah.

So that's the latest. I do feel like this story is dying. Yes.

And now that everybody's using their own music to promote, I'm officially done with the story, but I had fun up until today.

Yeah. Me as well.

Yeah. Then the husband got involved. It's over. Yeah. It's over. And it's okay. But thank you. Don't cry because it's over. Genually smile because it happened. Yeah. And just a reminder, it is okay to leave your Toxic Mom group, which is why I will no longer be a part of this show.

Is this a Toxic Mom group?

You literally told me I had a bad singing voice. This is my Hilary Duff, Man, more toxic friend group.

But you said that you have unlimited capacity.

I was speaking more generally for family. I was talking about Zack. My husband. Yeah, that's why when I go to your house, I want to hang out.

You're going there to see him. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. Got Got it. And he knows that, too. When you say you love me. Guys, one of the episodes to be longer? Okay.

No, I love you more. Remember when people used to complain that we sing too much? I'm glad that that stopped.

Is it? I don't read our- Comments? Actually, I do. But I guess maybe I do, so I don't know that they say that.

No, people used to complain in the comments, too much singing.

Every day. I'm so glad we shed those.

Either you You've accepted it or you've moved on.

And we're all better because of it.

To a music-less podcast, we are better.

A joyless podcast.

That was never happening.

We used to get that all the time.

I imagine when we added a theme song every day to every episode, that was when they had to do it.

We officially shook off.

Are you ready for our next story? Zack Bryant has a new album, and he's singing about chicken fry.

Okay. Tell me. Here we go. I don't even know this because I don't keep up with losers.

Zack Bryant isn't holding back on his new album called With Heaven on Top. So he has some songs. He has 25 songs. A weird title. Yeah, it's grammatically weird. Sex? With Heaven on Top. I'm sure if we heard the song that it's about. Right.

It's like a beautiful Sunday with heaven on top.

Yeah, it's like totally. Yeah. You should listen to it.

Nah, I like my version better. With a beautiful Sunday with heaven on top. Chunkly sprinkles in heaven on sup. Give me a cherry with Heaven on top.

25 songs seemingly shedding some light on his feelings toward his ex-girlfriend. We don't care. We are chicken fried lapaglia.

We actually don't care about your feelings. That's what's so fun.

And life with his new wife and his decision to get sober late last year. Late last year, so that's like a month, a week ago. You're right.

Also, how is he already writing it at his marriage? She got married last week.

Late last year. Maybe it was the year before. Maybe it's been a year and a week.

Okay, so what did he say about Ms. Lepogs?

So he has a song called Skin, taking after- Okay, Sabrina. Ms. Breen, and he takes aim at her, promising to, quote, take a blade to my old tattoos in order to drain the blood between me and you. He said, quote, I'm taking a blade to my own skin, and I ain't ever touching yours I'm sorry. This sounds like Sabrina. How do tattoos take to your skin? Does your higher ground ever sink in? Do you love people just to win when it's over?

Okay, yeah. She took the moral high ground, I guess he's saying, because she refused to be a victim of his abuse. Like, okay, you got her.

The way- And then he said, Do you still talk shit on all your friends? Need to take it all to the chin this time. Stone cold, sober.

I forget who it was that said, and I really wish I could attribute this quote to the person who said it because I guess what's the big secret? Like, Oh, she talks shit about her friends to her boyfriend. Okay, who doesn't? I literally talk shit about every person in my life. And it's just like, If I love you, I'm talking shit about you. I forget who said it. It was like, Yeah, when somebody leaves a room, we are talking about you. It's human nature. It could be bad, it could be good. That does not mean we don't love you. We're just talking.

Who said that?

I don't know. It was so brilliant. I feel like it was Maya Angelou or something.

I've not heard that one, but I do agree.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I feel like it started to talk.

They drove a wedge between her and all her friends, and then she he didn't have her friends anymore and maybe spoke poorly of them because they weren't her friends. Right.

And she was in this crazy ass relationship. I don't even know if there's anything he could say that I would be like, You know what? I feel that. Or, You know what I see his side.

Yeah. Well, I wonder how the album is. I'll have to ask Margot Walsh.

Yeah. One thing about our sister Margot, she's an extreme... You know you have a couple of friends who randomly listen to Chris Brown?

Margot and Zack Brian. Yeah.

Margot doesn't listen to Chris Brown. That would be way worse, I just want to say.

She listens to Zack Bryant, and she's not afraid to show it.

There are some things you have to listen to in secret, and I get it.

But she doesn't even. So I think that's more respect.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So let's see if she likes the album.

I'm sure it's good. No one's saying he's not a good songmaker. He just also is like an abuser, holding space for two truths.

A bad guy.

Bad guy.

Are you ready for our next story?

Time's flying so fast when I'm with you.

It It's some music news because it appears as though we have to go to the Houston Rodeo.

Who's performing? I've actually always wanted to go. I've been to the Fortworth Rodeo. They had no famous singers there, though.

Kelly Clarkson and Rascal Flats.

You're kidding. Wait, when is it?

The Rodeo is a series of dates in 2026, like March second, March third. It's like different artists perform on different days.

We are obviously going, first of all, because that's a fun family thing to do.

Rascal Flats Rascal Flats perform...

Oh my God. Should we do Houston Week for the toast?

Rascal Flats perform March fourth. Kelly Clarkson's March 14th. Okay, so we can't say for 10 days. Oh, fuck.

But we are seeing Rascal Flats perform before at a concert, so maybe we just go for Kelly.

Okay, March second is Riley Green.

Oh, I've seen him perform. I don't need to fly to Texas.

But if we go for Rascal on March fourth, the next day is Russell Differson.

Okay.

Also really good. And the next day is Lizzo.

No. A fun fact about me is I've never seen Kelly Clarkson before in my life. Isn't that crazy?

That is crazy. You haven't lived.

No, I know. I've seen Russell Differson. I've seen Rascal I've seen all that, Reilly Green. So I need to go see Kelly.

Okay. And if we go to Kelly, the day before her is Shibuzi. Your favorite. And the day before him is Chris Stapleton.

Oh, we're obviously going to that.

Yeah. And that's like a three-day run.

Oh, my God. It's so fun.

This is very exciting.

Yeah. Can we actually... We're always like, We should go. And then we just lay at home.

Okay, wait. Let me just think. So it would be March, the middle of March.

You have somewhere to be? No. No, I'm available. I am also available.

Okay.

Let's just make sure it doesn't coincide with like, Passover. It doesn't. That would be bad.

Passover There's beginning of ape.

Okay. No, we're going.

Watch out Houston. Here we come.

Hold us accountable. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Okay. A guy from the rodeo.

Well, of course, we'll do podcasts for the days that we're there. And anyone, of course, like Kelly Rascal, come on the podcast. Maybe that's where we get Kelly. Let's take an RV. You know it's my dream because I fucking love that movie, RV, with Robin Williams and Sheryl Hines and Jojo. Let's do it. Let's all load up in an RV. What's Who would drive the RV, though?

My husband's a good driver.

Okay, but Jackie- And safe. But like, RV is not- No, he can... We need to spend the next two, three months getting his RV license. Yeah.

Okay. I'm open to it.

But then it's not fun for your husband. So we could have a driver But then there's this random guy in the car with us.

Okay. I'm putting Houston in to see how long the drive is.

I just want to say, and we could podcast. I would die.

Okay, so it's 16 hours. But I think that we drive 8 hours one day, stay somewhere cargy overnight.

I guess it's just like 16 hours. We're not driving. We're not in a car. We're in a playground.

And if we break it up to two days, how do people do it?

Well, to be clear, we also could break it up into five days and stop and see places if you wanted to.

Okay, that's a misery.

Remember when the Beermans did that on Dopey Tarty? Oh, man, this is my dream. As long as I get the bed in the back and you guys sleep in the bunk beds, of course.

No.

I'll be much thinner by March due to the Zetbound, so I might be able to take one of those bunk beds.

Can you imagine the kids?

No, I'm telling you, it would be amazing. The car Do you need a car seat? Yeah. That's not as fun. It takes up a lot of space.

No, it's fine. In the front.

They sleep in a car seat?

Oh, yes. Sleeping at night. No, we're going to sleep in a hotel. Remember we just said we're going to stop.

Okay. And should we also wrap the RV in the toast? Because now we're driving across country. This is a promotional opportunity.

I guess. Oh, my gosh.

Just an idea. I really think we should... Is there a company that does this stuff for you? You know what I mean? Probably. That plans it out. That would be helpful.

Luxury RVs.

Oh, yeah, of course. It's got to be Lux, just to be clear.

Okay. Luxury.

At this point, let's just take a jet. If we're going Lux.

Luxury, and do they come with drivers?

Yeah. The more I think about this plan, we obviously need a driver. And what's going to be playing on the screen the entire time? Of course, RV. Have you ever seen RV? I have. It's the best movie. Oh, my God. I'm so excited. Just the idea of it.

Road trips I've never looked this good.

No, I'm telling you. And I've ended up on TikTok where people do RV tours or they're selling RVs and they're like, Here's our lux model with the 14-inch platform or whatever. And let me tell you, these ain't your grandma's RVs, okay? They've got plasmas. They've got wide I-Fi. They've got reclining chairs. I'm telling you, I could see you're getting excited.

I'm open to it, but I don't know. How do I entertain kids in a car for eight hours stretches?

Oh, my God. Music, games, iSpy.

So many Eight hours of iSpy.

No, Kayla would love it. I'm telling you.

Okay. I'm open.

And what's one thing between... We could leave from here, obviously, because it's closer. We leave from here to Houston. What's one thing in the middle that we So you need to see.

There's a couple of things. First of all, we would be driving through the Panhandle. So we could also stop in like, Northern Florida, like 30A, which is beautiful. I don't know if you've seen. Okay.

I don't need to leave Florida. Like, go see more Florida.

It's literally different. But New Orleans.

Oh, my God. We got to do it.

But actually, I feel like New Orleans might take us out of our way a little bit. Houston really is the Easternmost part of Texas. I didn't even realize.

That works for our trip.

It's right there.

That really works for our trip. We pass through what? Louisiana?

We pass through. So we drive up Florida to the left.

What about the Grand Canyon? Is that anywhere nearby?

No, nowhere nearby. Yeah, no, it's really Louisiana.

A state park. I've never been to a national park.

We could hit a little bit of Alabama and Mississippi.

Okay.

So Mobile, Alabama.

Oh, my God. You're kidding me. Mobile, Alabama? I'm not even joking. You know what I'm about to say?

No.

Oh, my God. Ready?

But somewhere else that we actually have to go.

Just hold on. We have to go to Mobile, Alabama, so I could literally do this. I stepped off the bus in Mobile, Alabama. The sun was slowly setting on the bay. It was six o'clock on a summer Friday afternoon, Shabbat was an hour away. We walked around the town wondering what to do, 'cause Shabbat is no time to be feeling blue. But then I saw a man who looked the same way, too. I was quite relieved to find a fellow Jew. Two, three. I asked the man, I saw how many Jews in this town? Whoa, he said to me there used to be a Minion around. Whoa, then one of us passed away and we've been feeling down. But now it seems as though another Jew has been found. Won't you stay with us for Shabbat's Minion Man? ♪ Won't you stay with us for Shabbat's Minion Man. There's another verse, but I won't bother you guys with it. Do you not know Minion Man?

I do.

A classic song from the Onex.

I was just looking up ways to shave off time on the trip. But the other place- Of course, I'm over here envisioning dreams for our trip, and you're over here trying to shorten it. Yeah. If we flew to the top of Florida and then started our drive from Tallahassee. Is that better?

Yeah, we would- What about Seeside? Yeah, that's like- Okay, so I have some friends we should visit in Seeside, The Reeds.

That's what I'm saying. That's what I said, 30A, the Panhandle. Okay. That's why I said, when we drive through, we actually should stop there. It's very pargy.

Okay, so we'll spend a week in my friend, The Reeds house. They have a sick house, and they're always inviting us. We'll go. And then maybe they'll come with us. Oh, my God, this is so fun.

The other place that's on the way is Pensacola.

Jackie, we have to go on this trip. She's from Pensacola. That's not much bigger than Maysville. If you guys know that one time I auditioned for a Lawn Dower SVU episode, and it was in my monolog, and I obviously didn't get the part because I was obviously too beautiful for it because they needed someone really ugly, like an actual bridge troll. We have to go, and I have to stand outside the Pensacola town and do the monolog. I'll have to find the script in my email somewhere.

I have another idea for how we could- I don't want to talk about this anymore because I know we're not going to do it.

I'm getting sad.

No, but this would make me... This is enticing just because We set our resolution to make more money.

Oh, okay.

If we do shows along the way to an area that we have no plans to otherwise tour.

And then the RV is an expense.

And because we're not touring because we're not touring artists.

No, yet.

But that's always our thing. We always say if we go somewhere, we should do a show.

Do a show to pay for the trip. Yeah. Let's start. Mobile, Alabama. We're huge in Alabama, by the way. I've done a ton of standup in Alabama, all over.

So we should do a show in Pensacola. And then I also saw Lake Charles. I like the name of it.

Okay, Charles.

Charles. Lake Choochee. Lake Choochee.

Okay, so can't wait to never do this, but it was fun to envision.

I feel like if it's meant to be, it will come together.

If the stars align.

Yeah. If the Houston Rodeo reaches out and is like, We would love to have you.

If somebody dropped out, we'll do a live podcast instead of like, Luzo.

And maybe one of us could sing.

I wonder which one.

Are you ready for our next story?

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Our next story. Chloe Kardashian reveals how her family handles money splitting costs. Oh, yes. So Chloe took to her podcast to talk about how the girly split costs on certain items and their philosophy around sharing and paying for each other. So she said, Me and my sisters do not ventmo each other, but we always take turns. She said, I would never go with one of my sisters and expect for them to always pay. We always rotate. It's just never really a thing because everyone's really respectful with each other. She said she recently footed the bill for Kim with their kids. Her kids and Kim's kids all needed new shirts for spirit day, and they have this little shop, and that only accepts cash. So Kim didn't have any money, so I was like, I'll get it for you. It's nothing. And she was like, I'll pay you back. Just tell my business manager to get you the money. And she's like, Kim, it's fine. We're good. I didn't get it back. But later she was like, Oh, let me buy this for you since you got me that stuff. She said, We're always aware of someone else spending money.

I think we're dare I say, normal in that regard.

So when I heard Clovely was talking about how her and her sister split expenses, I was extremely excited. Shirts for spirit day did not come to mind. I was more so thinking chartering jets.

No, and it's like when they go on a trip, I imagine they split the trip, but if it's Kim or Kylie's plane, they're footing the bill for the plane. So how does that factor into stuff?

Right. The things that normal people don't buy, like normal people do buy shirts for spirit day. That's more so what I was looking for clarity on. And also, when you're at that level of wealth, does everybody split things equally, or is it still like, Well, Kim's a billionaire, and Courtney's not? I was really more curious about that. I would never expect them to tell us, but she's opening the door and giving us nothing.

Well, I feel like, one, it all comes out in the wash, two. I feel like oftentimes I would imagine someone's planning a trip. They want to take their kids to the mountains. We're going on this trip. Does anyone want to come? And everyone tags along. Now, I imagine if you're always tagging along and you're never doing your own trip, paying for your trip, then you might not continue to get invited if people feel like they're always paying for you. But I'm sure it's akin to normal families just on a much bigger scale. Yes. I've never Venmoed you for anything.

No, but we do zelle one another for bigger stuff.

Yeah, we do zell one another.

Yeah, not that much.

Not really. It's more so just like you get the next thing.

Yeah.

I actually can't recall the last time I zelled you.

I can recall the last time I zelled you because I'm me. But also because it was just so recently on New for our hair.

For our hair? Okay. Yeah. But I didn't ask you to.

No, but Jackie had someone... You were the one who coordinated everyone. It's someone coming to do all of our hair. Then you paid for everyone's hair. I was like, Well, no, don't pay for everyone. I'll pay for mine and some else. Like a little.

That was very sweet of Koji. I didn't ask. I was happy to do it.

Because I'm not... I'm mindful of finances, but I'm not disgusting. I'm never going to leave people being like, Oh, she didn't pay her. I'm generous, but I'm just having a nightmare fit about it when I get home. I'm paying for everyone and then crying about it. You know what I I don't think anybody's ever described me as not generous or cheap, except for Ben, because he's the one who like, Here's how I truly feel. That fucking bitch.

You were just telling me this morning.

Why do you think she's going to pay me back? How you truly feel. I literally... Because at the beginning of the year, Yeah.

You want to start rocket money. You want to start on the right foot and be financially mindful. Yes.

And I was being a little nutty. At the end of last year. I moved apartments. My rent is much more. I'm just more... I'm here just spending money. When am I going home? I don't know. I'm just being nutty.

Yeah. That's why we have to go on tour.

Yeah, right. Of course.

Everything will be better after the tour.

The RV.

The RV tour. Yeah. That'll be historical.

When we don't do it. I'm open to it. I'm just reverse psychologizing in you.

No, I'm open to it for the kids because obviously an RV doesn't sound like my idea of a good time. I get motion sickness. I don't like to travel backwards or sideways. I'm going to have to be sitting shotgun. Next to the driver. In the jump seat.

Yeah.

But But if it's going to be a great experience for the family and for my kids, I will be open to it.

I'm so excited. Are you ready for- I'm going to start whispering to your kids, Tell your mom you want to go in the RV. Because then, if they're like, Why you want to go to see?

She'll be like, Okay. Yeah. Then I'll plan the best RV trip ever. You won't even have to plan it.

Great. It works for me. Guys, come here.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Kendall Jenner is addressing the rumors that she's a lesbian.

Oh, I thought you were saying she's addressing the rumors that her plastic surgery. No. Yeah, because she say that? She said she's never had anything done except for baby botox in her forehead. You guys, stop. No filler, no nose job. She said that- No lip. No lip. That was really crazy. She said she's never had a nose job. Bible, on my life, I've never had a nose job. She said that she took Accutane.

And it grew her lips.

There are theories that Accutane shrinks your Nose. People have said that. There's no medical data that proves that. But a couple of people were like, I took Accutane, and I swear to God, my nose got smaller. And she said that's what happened to her.

I can I can believe that. Accutane is extremely powerful and potent. Yeah. And like...

Strong.

Strong. So I can believe that. Lip.

Lip. I'm curious about, she said no fillers. But so What is she saying about her being a lesbian? Yes. I forgot that people think that. I haven't thought that in a while.

She's breaking her silence on the rumors that she's secretly gay. I'm cracking up. She went on In Your Dreams podcast.

That's also where she said the plastic surgery thing.

Oh, okay. And she talked about the gay rumors. She said, There's this whole side of the internet that thinks I'm a lesbian. She confirmed that she is not gay, but that she would have no problem coming out if she were. She said, I understand that coming out is not an easy thing for anybody, if not most people. I'm not saying that's an easy thing, But knowing, and I can speak for myself here. It's so funny, all the different- Yeah, right.

Don't cancel me. I know it's hard. I did this.

I know for everyone it's different. But if I can speak on my own experience, she said, If I can speak for myself here and knowing myself, I think at this point in my life, I'd be out if I was. She acknowledged that she knows coming out is not an easy thing to do. She's just saying, I'm just saying that knowing me and knowing how I'd want to live my life, I would. I'd have no problem being that. She reflected on the narrative that she's hiding this thing from her fans. She said, I've seen really fucked up things that are like, it's bad for business. And I'm like, what? How? I don't understand it. All is to say, as of today, I am not gay. I don't think I will be, but I'm not closing doors to experiences in my life.

Okay. That's one way to throw people off if you are. I know that people thought that because there are a couple of things about her that's not like typical girl. You're like, I'm a nerd and I like horses. But I don't think that. I haven't thought that for a while. I do know that people think that. It's not that big of a corner of the internet. A couple of years ago, people thought it. It's really not huge. She's acting like gay lore. People do.

There are- I do feel like people sometimes think that about her. And I do think it's because, and she said this, too, she's not public in her relationship, so you never really see her loved up with a guy. I don't know why people immediately then think that she's gay.

I guess also compared to her sisters who are like, broadly traditional in the sense of having kids, and she's the only one who doesn't have kids. Maybe that's why. I don't know.

No, but it's been a while that this is just But first of all, I believe her because that's what she said. And yeah, all of her reasons, if she were gay, she would come out. There are a lot of people in her industry who are, and it doesn't affect- Yeah.

I feel like what she's saying without trying to be- And also her dad is trans.

Right. I feel like what she's- It's a welcoming space.

Trying to say without being insensitive, because like I said earlier this week, there are people... But for the most part, I feel like we've evolved past gayness. It's the least big deal.

Especially in certain industries.

In Hollywood, specifically.

And parts of the country. It's not the big deal that it once was.

Right. And coming out, I think these days, looks a lot different than it did 10, 20 years ago. And I think that's what she was saying. So, yeah, I didn't really wonder if she was Les, but she's not cool.

She's not. But it's also like...

She didn't close herself off to it, though.

Interesting to know. Well, she can't... All the different...

I do also think if you are really deep on the gay lore, there is- She's involved? There could be, because she was a part of... A lot of people forget because so much has happened in pop culture. But Kendall briefly was in Taylor's Girl Gang, like Via Gigi, and then Cara Delevingne. There was a lot of Les energy pulsing through that. Kendall then ending on bad terms. Now, of course, it has to do with her sister. But you could, if you were a theory person, you could look into her involvement in that group as well.

I agree. Maybe the group got a little Les-y.

Yeah. And then it was weird, and they couldn't talk to each other, and then they all stopped being friends.

Yeah. Because are you a gay Lord truther?

I am not a gay Lord truther. However, I'm not. I am not at all. Taylor's literally been telling us for years, she loves dick. She loves guys. She couldn't have more boyfriends. I do think her friendship with Carly Claw. That's the only thing for me that I feel is a little curious. Maybe they did fall in love, and It was so fast, so furious. There are a lot of lyrics that point to- Like Dress. Yes. There's a lot of Carly Claw, but maybe it was just a crazy friendship. I don't know. That's the only thing I'm a little like, well. But For the most part, no, I don't. I don't think you could be like, Taylor. You could be engaged with Travis while being a lesbian. I don't.

No, or bisexual.

Except I did see because I end up on the craziest parts of the internet. I did see what gay lore says about Travis because to me, if you ever thought Taylor was a lesbian, Travis. Everything's over now. Well, Travis is gay, they say.

But bisexual. You're being so binary.

Okay. I'm shy and I'm binary. Sure. What they say- Travis is what? Travis is gay. You know Ross, his roommate, who looks just like him? Sorry, Sorry, not his roommate, his friend who looks just like him. That's his boyfriend, the gay lore says.

I don't know Ross.

Oh, yeah. He's like there all the time. You've definitely seen him. He is Travis's roommate and lover.

And Taylor's lover is whomst.

I don't know who they say she's currently dating. She's single right now? You know, there was the Fiddler in her band.

No, I don't know about the Fiddler.

Yeah, there is a Fiddler. She played the fiddle.

That Taylor loved.

Back in the early... This is what... I don't think this at all.

A female Fiddler?

Yeah, I think her name was Emily, and they were really close. And Taylor was on the trajectory. I think it was the fearless era. And management saw what was going on, and they sent that Fiddler pack in. And she was literally never to be seen again. She literally vanished. And that's what gay lords people say. I don't think that. I'm just letting you know what they think.

Thank you for letting us know.

About the Fiddler on the tour.

The Fiddler on the tour. Well, thank you, Kendall, for clearing that up. It's also just It's funny when people address really- Obscure. Internet rumors about themselves. It's like, they see these things.

Not only that, but a lot of celebrities will go out of their way to address the most random niche, not the thing. That's not what we're actually saying. What are people wondering about Kendall right now.

I actually think that this floats out there.

Every now and then.

Cool that she addressed it.

Shall we dive on to Queeny and Weaning of the Week?

Yes, we shall.

Queeny and Weaning of the Week is our weekly segment we do every Friday. It's the last thing we leave you with on Fridays. To wrap up the week, take a look at the week out of Glenn's, and we deliver two awards, Queeny of the Week and Weaning of the Week. They're pretty self-explanatory. If you did something amazing this week, you might be Queeny of the Week. If you did something lame this week, you might be Weaning of the Week. Don't take it to heart. It is what it is. Now, I think we should just get the weanie out of the way because we obviously both have the same weaning. Say it on three. One, two, three. Ashley Tisdale, French. Now, her writing, she might not have been Weaning of the Week if she hadn't then released the PR, I'm a registered Democrat. This isn't about the celebrity group. It's about a different group of friends. She saw, obviously, the wind changing and tried to... She wanted attention, and she got it.

I want to give an honorary mention to Haley Duff.

Yeah.

Who said, Screw Sisterhood.

Yeah. That's Weenie like, too. Not as big as Ashley.

No, no. Ashley did it on a bigger scale. Haley just hit the like button. Her finger could have slipped.

Yeah. I do wonder what Vanessa Anne thinks of all this.

She's so far past it.

I don't know. She's like a mom.

Yeah. And I bet she has a mom group. And a former friend of Ashley's. I'm sure she's texting Hillary right now. Isn't she the worst?

Well, everyone now they're like, when somebody is getting their feet held to the fire. Now they're going back through their history, looking through. And people are like, Well, why aren't Vanessa and Ashley friends? They were friends. They're both moms. You would think that they're at similar life stages. So people are just pointing that out.

And I just want to say, I'm not taking up for anyone in this I don't feel...

We have no stake in this game.

Because I feel like everyone's done some wrong. And I don't even know necessarily that I would enjoy this mom group either. Maybe I would find them to be toxic, but I wouldn't write two articles about it and cause them to dislike me even further.

It's always interesting when somebody really strategically tries to do something PR-wise, and it flips on them so completely. It reminds me a lot of when Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner got married. Excuse me, got divorced. I feel like he tried to do something, and it ended up really flipping on him.

Yeah, a little different because he tried to do it, like, covertly, so we can't even...

Yeah, Ashley was so obvious.

He didn't leave his fingerprints on it. We just assumed. But yeah.

Weenie. Oh, no, that was Weenie. Queenie. Do you want to go first or second?

My Queenie. I'll go second.

Okay, my Queenie. I feel like I made her my queening so many times, but it just cannot be overstated. How much joy Alex Droll continues to bring to me as a woman in media. And also she's dropping hints that she's launching something.

What do you think? Give It's a PR prediction.

She said she's launching her company. She just said a company. She said that a couple of weeks ago. And then she posted on her Instagram a picture of her doing a photoshoot, which we're being led to believe is for the company. She's wearing little to no makeup, and I'm just putting it out there. I believe it's a skincare company, and I think everybody pretty much thinks that because she's vulnerable about her skin. She shares a lot, and she's made so many things go like, hell of viral. Do you know what Meticube is? No. Okay, I didn't know about it either. It's now the biggest number one selling skincare brand on TikTok. And her facialist had recommended it to her. These wipes, these pads, cleared up her skin. She's very influential in the skincare space for young women. So I do believe an Alex Earle skincare line is coming. I don't know what it's going to be called, but...

I like that. It feels like road.

But yes, exactly. Sorry. And she's my queen, obviously, because of her behavior over the years. It's a little bit delayed, but I couldn't let the week go by without honoring her with that title.

And we did discuss it this week. Yeah. My queenie of the week, always a queenie, was queenie like this week. A A lot of queenies this week. A lot of queens. Kylie. Kylie at the Critics Choice Awards.

Wait, I'm so glad you brought that up.

Timothy, maybe my queenie for acknowledging his partner of three years who's given him this foundation and who he loves. But Kylie for being his partner of three years who's given him that foundation that he loves.

Also, quickly, honorable mention for Wee Named, Minji.

I like that better. I don't know why I don't feel inclined to pile on to Ashley to the sale. I know. I think that you should leave your toxic friend group and just go. And just shut up. We should never see you again. We should never know about it. But I'm not so fervent in my dislike. There was Weanie behavior exhibited.

So you want to change yours to Amanda Seafre, aka Minji?

I think I do. Because I feel like the weaniness is consistent. It's overt. It's troll-like behavior. It's more nefarious. Whereas Ashley Tisia, I don't know something about it, makes me sad for her.

Yeah, that's fair. I'm really glad you brought up Kylie because I needed to say something, and I feel like I can't believe people haven't said this. I see it happen a lot with celebrities who own brands, and I've seen it with Kylie a couple of times. She makes her quarterly TikTok promoting the brand. And there are allegations like, You don't use your own products, whatever. And she's like, Here's my five-step lip combo. And she did this insane lip combo. It actually looked amazing. And it was like, Well, she obviously knows her own products. She's opening the products, and every single one of them is in the box. It's a new one. And I think this happens a lot with people who are just making promotional content for their brands. With celebrities a lot, we get like, Haley, you don't use road. And it's like, well, every time she uses road, it's like she's squeezing that lip peptide all the way out because she's used it so much. I feel like I've never thought that she doesn't use road. Kylie opened every brand new.

Where was it filmed?

In her car.

Car is where you have used goods. I was thinking, if it's in her office, maybe she just grab new ones. I'm going to film this video.

No. I need celebrities to... If they're making content with their own stuff, I notice it a lot.

Do you think she wanted to show us the packaging?

No, because it was off camera. She was just like, And this is the lip liner, but she's taking it out of the box. Well, if you love it so much, why is it still in the box?

Well, no, I think she does love it, but she probably grabbed a new one. There's probably a good reason why she did it. Because she did that off camera. She definitely uses it. But yeah, it should feel more authentic. Yeah. Authenticity is the name of the game.

To the social media managers, the brand managers for celebrity-owned brands, make sure that you're like...

But maybe she's authentic in the fact that I pretty much use a new one every time. Yeah.

Just like, squeeze out half the bottle so it looks like you're using the face wash.

Even if you are using the face wash and you just did this because it's actually... No, of course, and we're on It's a set. Let's say we're on set. It's a set. And part of the act is that you use it often.

I'm surprised social media users aren't more discerning. I see it a lot. I'm like, Girl, throw the box away. We're onto you. And I do feel like Kylie uses a lot of her own products. I do.

I do. They're a great product.

They are good. But people often think that- I'm wearing a bit of Kylie today on my lip.

I cobbled together three different lip liners because none of them were sharpened. And this is what I've got. I have a sharpener here. I found a sharpener in my drawer. My life has changed.

That's our show.

That is our show. You know what? I have metered parking today, so I've actually got to go. Oh, wow. So even if you wanted us to dilly dally for the sake of it, RoboCop is going to get me. I've never used a meter before. Very yucky experience.

I know you're not chronically aligned, so I do want to tell you that metered parking is actually like it's fatphobic. I don't know if you know that.

Tell me everything.

I actually, I feel that. You know you feed the meter? And when the meter is running out, it says, I'm hungry.

Okay.

So that's like fatphobic language. You can't use a manhole. It's a person hole or whatever.

But skinny people get fed and hungry as well. I thought it was fatphobic because you have to walk and find one.

What if fat people can't walk? Fatphobic. No, it's like... But what? What about walking? Fat people can, too.

It's just like exercise.

It's... Fat people exercise.

It's just harder.

Fatphobic language. I don't appreciate that.

I think what you said that feed me, I'm not angry, is fatphobic. That's not real, is it?

100% real.

Well, I'm with you guys. I think we should end metered parking. I did it today. I did not enjoy the experience. They don't take Apple Pay. I had to put my credit card in. It was wet inside. It's dirty, yeah. It was wet inside. My car, it came out wet.

Probably rain, but okay. Yucky. That really is gross. Where'd you wipe it?

I put it back in my wallet.

Okay. In your Chanel wallet, why not just wipe it on your Amazon set?

Air Maze.

You're not wearing an Air Maze set.

But thank you for thinking. My wallet's Air Maze.

Oh, is that the one I got for you for your birthday?

No, it's the one I got for myself that I couldn't stop telling you about. Should I show everyone? No. Okay.

It's really- In this economy, Jackie, people can't afford rent. That's what everybody says when they don't like your TikTok. They're like, I literally can't afford to buy groceries.

I thought you guys would I'm really excited for me. I haven't bought myself a new wallet in 10 years. I loved my old one. It was just a little pocket, but my lifestyle has changed. It's becoming a mother, and I just have more things. So I was really excited. It was a point of pride that I bought myself a new wallet.

But people can't afford to buy groceries, so you should kill yourself. That's literally what people say on TikTok. I literally can't afford to buy groceries. It's like, what this has to do with this Girls Forever 21 haul? It's just the comment people say now. It's like, This is Wendy's. Yeah, it's like bean soup theory. That's what they call it.

Okay, tell me.

Bean soup theory is like, I'm making a video about how I love bean soup, and it's like, well, I can't eat beans. It's like, well, okay, we don't give a fuck. It's like, what about meisms? It's like, that's the culture now. It's bean soup theory. I can't afford to buy groceries, but I'm happy that you took a trip to Hawaii.

So we shouldn't talk about our RV trip.

No, you can't talk about anything because someone somewhere is suffering. Yeah.

I guess we can't talk. I have to end the show. The meter is up.

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