Transcript of Episode 948 | "Somebody Call Freeze"

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We are trained professionals who do not have your best interest at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. It's hard, ain't really no start. Welcome to the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by— hey yo, listen, I just want to say something. Before I came upstairs, you know I like to scope the scene, just make sure there's not niggas attacking me, looking for me, and anything in the environment.

I look to my left, I decided to look at my brother Mark's car, and he has this in my car. Yes, because you thought somebody might be attacking you from inside. Of course. He had his karate outfit on the front seat. This nigga coming straight from karate to work, nigga.

Hey, relax. You got kicked out the apartment. Now you sleeping at the dojo? Nigga, go home, nigga. That did all that home shit with Flip.

Mark, I saw it right there. Nigga, it was this big. That's my son's. Oh, shit. It was white, right?

Yeah, it was white. Nigga, that's my son's. That could be yours. Nigga, you just said the same thing I was gonna say. You just dried it.

I said, oh shit, he just came from karate. Took a picture too. I play with Mark. I gotta test my sons, dog. I probably should watch it.

That's hilarious. What's he liking it? He loves it, yo. I came on here and said that he failed his white belt test a while back. I should have probably told y'all he passed it next time.

Oh, yeah, he passed next time. And now he's all— he be trashing them kids in there. They about to give him a stripe on his belt. He's getting a little carried away with it. All he needs to do is fight.

Stop, stop. No, at home, he just be wanting to— all he want to do is That's just the child we need to know karate.

And he's stocky. Yeah, yeah, you can see it. That's crazy. Flip, do you always go through your friends' cars? I do, I do, I do, I do.

Do you think that's normal? No, it's not. But I have to— looking in your car, seeing the condition of it allows me to know where your mind is at in the current state and where your life is at. Yeah, he's not— that's true. Well, I don't want to talk about niggas' lives because they're gonna start getting on me.

So I know what water to go in because I'm about to shoot shots ish, and I want to play with him today, okay? He came in and told niggas I had pee in cups. Yeah, you did. Gatorade bottle. Your car is dirty, nigga.

I ain't gonna say it's dirty, but it's junky. Junky, dirty, same shit to me. Y'all flip, get in. Just move this shit over. Niggas spilled coffee on me.

He said he gonna take my shit to the cleaners, never did. That's what I'm saying, this shit is dirty. I think he— that was piss. He peeing in the Wawa cup. Why your car like that though?

Do you— why is it like that? What? How can— as a nigga, can you come in here clean? Okay. You always fly, bro.

Clean. I haven't seen a speck of dirt, not even on the bottom of your sneakers. But your car is two different niggas. Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde type shit. That shit nasty in there, boy.

Why is it like that, boy? You be stressed? Oh, I'm not in there. No, but you, you have an assessment on it. I have absolutely nothing to say.

I've never seen your car or the mess. But you know the assessment. Wait, his car wasn't like that back in the day?

Yo, you see me trying to be cool. He trying to be cool. I don't really litter, so whatever. Yes, you do, in the backseat. Oh, so you keep it all in the car?

I don't litter. I drink, like, I drink water all day, as y'all know. So if I finish a water, I put the water like— Nigga care about the environment more than his health. You know, so then when I get out the car at a certain point, I'll just— There is an in-between. It'd be 40 water bottles in my car.

I just throw them on the trash. Oh, you recycle? Oh, you do the 40 Cent shit? Okay, I see. Okay, I should have known that.

No wonder you be trying to ask JR to go down the block. You be doing that shit with the cans and bottles. You go to the can bank. Yo, it's that bad for you, boy? Oh yeah, that's where you recycle your shit.

You see? See, nigga? Watch your mouth, son. Have my man saving bottles, nigga. Stop playing with my son, nigga.

I'mma slap you in here. It's a lot of shit. Go to the car parks one day and see. No thanks. Oh, this shit clean though.

Mine is disgusting too, but— White man shit, I watch this shit too. Your kids will make your shit disgusting too though. I'm sure. Yeah, that's 90%. I mean, it's a— or y'all are just disgusting.

That's not true. Oh, I'm disgusting. Y'all are disgusting. I own that. Yeah, I'm disgusting.

My car used to be super clean though, but now once I had a kid, I just said fuck it. You shouldn't even be able to get out your car wearing pink if it's fucking junky. Seriously, because how you get out the car like when you fresh, like when you feeling confident, and your shit is just— the outside be clean, they hit the car wash. No, it don't. You gotta get car washes. Wait, you niggas go to a car wash and get exterior?

Not you niggas. Tell me that y'all go to the car wash and just get the exterior done and then pull off. It's a conspiracy with Ish. He think the nigga's gonna steal from him. So when I had the daily shit I was going every day to get the exterior.

Oh, you don't got it? I don't live over that way no more. No, I gotta— I gotta tell you, you should— I got the same guy. He comes to the house, he cleans the whole car. That's the only way my car don't be disgusting all the time, is I have to have somebody come to the house to actually clean it.

Wait, uh, yeah, yeah, it's a level I gotta get. These niggas don't even go to the car wash. Niggas will come here and clean your car. No, I don't want niggas to come here. He's dope. He does Joe's cars, and he'll come to your crib, he'll clean your car inside, outside, all that.

Got it. I see Flip on the road looking bad. You saw the outside? Y'all niggas just— hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You saw the outside?

You still take pride in shit? You saw the outside? Because you got— I gotta be incognito. You had the nerve to have the window down rolling in that fucking Dustbuster. I was talking to you.

First of all, my shit, my shit is not a Dustbuster. Your shit be fucked up. Wait, you took all that shit? I was about to say your shit better not be fucked up. You better have a crispy clean— oh, let me just tell you, eat off your fucking car.

And it's the summertime and you niggas is dirty and jumping like this and you live 5 minutes from a car, from 7 car washes. You know when the weather change, that whole green shit get on your car, your car black is going to show. Yeah, I just didn't clean it. And then this nigga said to me, yo, you looking bad out here, nigga. Resign, nigga.

That's what he did. That's what he did. He said that? Yeah, he said that. He said, you got to resign, boy.

This looks nasty. Look bad. Yo, nigga, inside my shit clean. I'mma check. I'mma check.

I'mma check. Whatever. Freeze your shit clean, right? Yeah. Mm, freezing.

I keep the inside. I check Park shit. I keep my shit clean. Yeah, I keep— even with the kids all the time, so I gotta keep this car clean because they don't have your shit fucked up. They would— I had to go get them thick rubber mats.

I can't use the regular floor mats. Oh, you like a rubber mat, nigga? Put the rubber mat on top of the other mat. That's a freaky shit. He been that way in 2007 when he had his little blue Escalade.

He thought that shit was a Phantom. That thing was like, yo, I'm going— That's the one I had to give you a ride in, right? It was a nice car. It was, yeah, spinners on it. Man, who wrapped this?

I don't remember that shit. Rich. Fucking Rich. Yeah, he was getting the special floor mats to his shit. Freeze didn't play.

He didn't play, I could tell you, I was there. Was your car like that back then? For special floor mats? No. No.

No. It was regular. But you hardly drive your shit though. If you drove your shit every day, it would still be clean. What you talking about, today?

Now? Yeah, now. If you drove your shit, would it be clean? I do see you going around picking shit up, so. Nah, nigga clean.

He cleans all the stuff? Okay. Yeah, spotless. Spotless. I couldn't walk by a dusty car 5 times in a row ever.

Really? No. Why not? It's OCD time now. Once I see it, now you can't unsee the shit.

You gotta, gotta do something. Oh, I can't see. I got a pizza box on my floor that's been there for at least— that's disgusting. Is it crust in the mouth? I can see that shit with 20/20 vision.

It's crust in it too. Yo, you need— yes, come on, Mark. But that don't shock me about Mark because Colt is in the Mark profile, and a few things come with that. I thought the Colt was like— wait, wait, what? How you connect the pizza box?

My profile— Colt is not in your— your profile says something different. Oh yeah, Colt is in his, so it's pizza crust. I thought Colt has all types of shit. I thought the Colt would be like the military. Order and clean.

Pizza crust— no, the military means that. 5 minutes. The military means order, not what he did. We had some order, but we also wouldn't let a pizza crust go. You know what I mean?

We had a much— Y'all was starving. Yeah, we was starving. You ain't gonna eat that crust? But I wouldn't leave it. You know what it is?

My son fucks up the car so much in the back that I've just given up. Like, Po, you've been there before. Remember when he took the stencils and drew all over with chalk on the back of my seat? Excuse me? Yo, I was like, I lost.

I gave up. What's that car seat you got? Get a better car seat. Your car is like that because your profile says that you're all about exterior. My exterior be dirty.

Now what? You're what? My exterior is dirty. Now what? Yeah, I gotta see.

I gotta, I gotta deep down. My car says that because I don't really value shit like that. It's not a big deal to me. It's not about the money, fam. A car is a car.

I don't look at it like that. You don't value cleanliness? I don't value my car like that. Like, some niggas treat their car like it's a trophy. I don't do that.

Oh, it's not about a trophy. Yeah, in my car, I don't give a fuck. This is hard to focus with mess. Same. Like, my car messy, I'll be like, I gotta pull over.

And as soon as they get out the car, I gotta clean the car out. I can't have that shit. Yeah, see, is that the police? I don't know. Yeah, like, what am I hearing?

What was that? So yes, yes. Oh, so yeah, the police.

And I'm joking. Y'all be getting me in trouble with them jokes. I could tell. What? I'm chilling.

I'm just talking about now. Listen, I can tell we get you in trouble. That's all I'm saying. Because the person that makes the jokes get the look as well, nigga. She got no pics.

Y'all heard that shit you said? Like, girl, you that man's girl. Don't press me. I heard what you said, nigga. Watch your mouth.

She don't play. I guess yesterday I'm chilling in the bed, minding my own business. Long story, not long at all. She said, I gotta buy some popcorn and some slushies, and we got movie night with the kids, and we go find a horror movie because they want to see horror. We're gonna sit on the couch, you want like a family and watch movie.

I'm like, all right, shit, that's dope, we're gonna kill that shit. I go laying down, laying down, laying down. You get close to the movie time. She like, all right babe, when are you, uh, come on, it's almost time.

Say, uh, uh. I used to— I, I ain't grow up with a family. Yeah. And, and I like it like that. Yo, you had to get your, your plaid pajamas.

This is some toxic shit, but some toxic shit I'm on, but I can't say that to her. You can't say, yo, yes sir. I grew up without a family, and I had a family, but we ain't doing— we ain't do none of this together. Yeah. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. But I didn't say that. I said, all right, babe. I took my goofy ass out there.

He puts a pajama pants on, go out there, mad. Get the dog bed is out there, and they pull up some shit called Passenger.

I don't think I saw that one. No, you didn't. I think I did see that. Oh God, no. If you didn't see it, right?

I guess it was trash. It's no— it's a— nigga, yes, this is the worst movie in the fucking universe. They don't make horror like they used to make horror. They don't. Shit is a fucking comedy.

Down the street and the people be standing on it, then match where they jumping. One dude, yeah, on the side of the road. The guy's driving around, he hops in, he kills some nigga in the first 5 seconds of the movie. Then they show you a couple. The couple was all in love, they kiss.

The couple decides to go live in, uh, What's the shit, the vans that go on the road? Now you live in the country, cross country. RVs and shit. Yeah, they done hooked it up, some little tiny-ass Winnebagels. So now they gonna take a drive.

So you know where this movie is going. Oh yeah. And I walked out. I was in my living room when I walked out. You walked out?

Yeah, I walked out. I'll trade with you. Because I have to do that and watch shit like Toy Story. Wait, you do the movie night shit? Yeah.

Like with your family? Yes. You thought Freeze was doing movie night? But Toy Story dope. How dope is Toy Story?

Now you don't want to watch this shit. Everything about him says movie night. Yeah, word. You like a family dude, you let me get out of it. How do I get out of that?

Cause the argument the night before, you know, you don't. You don't. For real, seriously. No, you don't. No, you don't.

You just sacrifice 2 hours. Sacrifice money. You want the short movie? The Passenger movie wasn't but 90 minutes. Yeah, there you go.

My stupid ass during family night, I pause it thinking we done got through most of this shit. We was 39 minutes in. I said, I'm walking the fuck out Sorry. Hey, judge me. Hey, break up.

I'm out. She understood it that point. I'll meet you in the bed, baby. Okay, I'm out of here. No, you got to sit there.

I got to watch this stupid shit. There got to be a peaceful way to do it. I'll figure it out. There's two. Go to the bathroom.

No, you can— there's the— twice a year you get an emergency. Yo, my son, he's just— he dealing with some shit. I need to help him with it. You know what I mean? That'll get you out of it.

Long term, you got to actually have a conversation. And say I'm not doing this shit. Yeah, I'm not. So the short term— Mark ratting on himself. Yeah, when you jump up here, he'd be like, yo, you know, Mark, you do this shit too.

You think I enjoy the family time? But we don't do it a lot, so it's not— I've had to do every week, I would drive me fucking crazy. I would shoot myself. But once a month, easy. Goddamn.

Okay, I'm sorry, sorry. Thank you, Flip. You're right, I would be unhappy. I like time to myself. I don't like a lot of people all the time.

So yeah, true. Any time to myself, once a month. I love family time. Again, once a month. Look at that bitch-ass nigga.

Look, I love sitting with all my children and my wife and watching the movie, nigga. I love that. Just me and my lady is different. You know what? Me and my lady is different.

When you get too many, you start adding other people, shit become a burden. I go to sleep. I do that too. That's the— you know what? Sit there and go the fuck to sleep.

Yeah, they gonna watch this shit. I'm out. Felix.

Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2.

I mean, that's just my vibe on a rainy day. Fuck with me. Hey!

Big Jersey, big Jersey! Whole New York City, what's going on out there?

Always for the ladies, always for the ladies.

Here you go. Shout out to all the side chicks out there, we're not forgetting about y'all too. Y'all like slow jams too.

And side chicks is misleading. Some of y'all out there is like this whole side family. Shout out to y'all, y'all holding shit down.

Hey, Stupid Dog. They said Stephen A was in an interview talking about how his dad wasn't really taking care of the household. He said their family wasn't poor because they was broke. They was poor because dad was taking the money and doing it somewhere else. And he watched his mom work 16-hour days, 7 days a week to provide and take care.

And dad was on the other side of town in a whole nother house, like taking care of another Yo, listen, I ain't saying it, but there will be signs.

Shout out to Michelle. I seen you, uh, in that Cadillac doing your thing. You absolutely killed that. I'm so shocked that your voice Voice still sounds like that too, by the way.

Hey, shout out to all the parents out there, all the kids out there, all the kids getting ready for college and all that.

Come on, man, let's start this thing the right way, man.

Wherever you at, if you in your car, if you in the crib, I simply can't. Doom scrolling on YouTube.

Got me. You out in the park somewhere, wherever you could possibly be. You at Topgolf, nigga. You at your bowling alley, the skating rink. That's what I've called all my life.

40 and up, 40 and up.

Holy shit, 45 and up, goddamn it. Now think about it.

Love is in the air.

Yes sir, take it back to when you used to leave a voicemail, nigga, with your sexy voice on. Hey, what's up girl, you know I miss you. Slow Jamz playing in the I love you, baby. I just called you. I know I missed you just now.

Don't call me back. You mean the world to me, yo. When you get a second, at your earliest convenience— that's what niggas— at your earliest convenience, give me a call.

Hey, what else? What else?

Visions of your love. You're 40 and up, you in the car, let me hear you out there! All my love is for you, whatever you want I will do.

You're the only one I want in my life, for you I make that sacrifice.

Yeah, I mean, taking it back to when niggas used to hold hands. Facts. Niggas still hold hands, but they be initiating it.

Shout out to the niggas leave a hand there dangling for a second too, like, oh shit, oh shit, you wanted my hand.

Yeah, shout out to niggas that hold hands but interlock the fingers weird. And you too awkward to say something, nigga. So now you just stuck like that.

Shout out to the niggas that, you know what I mean? Hold on, let me get these drops out the way.

Shout out to you niggas that still going to bed in whatever cuddle position y'all fell asleep in. Y'all too pussy to move. Now your legs sleep, arms sleep. My leg be sleep now. My bitch is a unit.

Shit be fucked up. I move, I get out the way.

Who is that? It's Mark Lamont Hill, pussy. I'm from the Webber Nitty era. It's the network. All right, what episode is this?

948. Welcome to episode 948 of the Joe Button Podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful I'm extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Budden here with some really amazing people. This episode is brought to you by Fueled by Power by PrizePicks.

PrizePicks gang, yeah! Uh, to my right, Queens get the money, come on, man, you seen them out there. Big Queens, Flip. Flip, how you doing, man? I feel good, feel good to be here.

I'm doing great. Good, absolutely love that. Next to him, Philadelphia's finest, our good brother Dr. Marc Lamont Hill in the building. Marc, what's good with you? I'm great, Man, good.

Absolutely love that. Next to him, our good brother Mr. Thousand Doors and Up, Ish is in the building. Ish, what's good, man? I'm great, sir.

You good? Couldn't be better. Next to him, come on, the freeziest of them all, Mr. Take It Further, Big Freeze in the building. Freeze, what's good? What's going on, man?

Great. Nothing much. Can't call it. Waiting for Bron, man. That's it.

That's it. About another hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got the notifications on. We set.

He announced today. He announced today. He going announce when he announce. We ready. Take your time, big dog.

We cool, we waiting. Whatever you need. Said, I'm waiting for Bron, and didn't pause it. They dead ass. Y'all thought we was joking.

Why they think we joking? They waiting for Bron. And Ish, you not in the group chat, so let me tell you what they was doing.

Tell, let me tell you what they was doing. I got— cuz y'all, cuz y'all niggas was looking nuts in there, man. Mark is in there saying, hey You know Mark always got a source. Yeah, I'm getting sick of it. Yeah, Mark said, I got sources telling me this thing is official, it's already done, just waiting on the announcement.

We like, all right, we let that cook, right? Mark is a Sixer fan, he's excited. I'm excited. We let him go. They took it further.

It's about to manifest. They took it further. Then Mark said, listen, I'm hearing that he's, uh, even enrolled his kids in the Philadelphia school. That's what my source told told me, and I left it alone because Mark is hyping, he's excited. It's July.

And then Freeze comes in with some AI school evidence. Yes, with some AI Philadelphia school report that says a LeBron kid is in there. I don't even know this kid. What kid was this? The youngest, the one that's the strongest, the one that's in school, bro.

Okay, I got it, got it.

And the whole group chat just kind kind of left that shit be because they're excited in there because they're fucking haters. Look, that's all. I thought you said you were gonna ask around. I asked that. So exactly, I got a text saying, hey, LeBron's daughter was just enrolled in my friend's daughter's private school down here.

So that was, you know, so I immediately— who text you that? I can't say. Yeah, I bet it sounds like, uh, hey, Chris Broussard, man, knock it off. Ain't nobody texting Mark but Chris Broussard, man. So I said, let me go find out.

COVID, when everyone's cousin's cousin was working for the government, right? I think it was one of them reverse joints. Because when I saw the AI thing, I said, I know what happened. Somebody saw that, and then the rumors started back. So by the time it got to me, it, you know what I mean, the person probably was being honest but just getting bad info.

So I called the school. Okay. And I called some people who work at the school. How'd that go? Why?

You didn't feel like a loser when you did that? You think I called as me? Oh shit. Okay. You didn't feel like a loser when you did that?

That's double— yeah, that's a double whammy. Hi, this is LeBron. Hey, does my daughter go here? No, no, I call, I call I called my peoples and asked them if they knew anything, you know what I mean? As a school, I just asked if there was any announcements.

I didn't ask, you know what I mean? But they said no, right? He said no. Yeah, it's more how they carry it. Yo, Mark and Ice, yo, I ain't even putting this on Ice really because he's just trying to support his man.

Y'all gonna absolutely hate me if LeBron go to, uh, the Sixers. We hate you already. Well, y'all gonna hate me more. I don't think it's possible to hate a Knicks fan more after y'all this year. Yeah, I'm calling Pablo Torre immediately.

That's my very first phone call. Well, we still— don't worry, Pablo got a backlog of work to do right now. He got work to do. If LeBron go to the Sixers, that mean that Michael Rubin started a plant company. Oh shit.

Oh shit. That's what it means. Solar wind. Yeah, because there ain't nothing about that sexy. I mean, they Sixers fans, but outside of that, you crazy.

That's the least sexiest spot when you talk about Miami and Cleveland, uh, and Cleveland. No, the story, the story. You don't think the story— I could go and deliver a championship to a champion, to a franchise? Yeah, I've done it. I brought— I went, already did it in Cleveland.

I went back home, I got Cleveland one. I did it in Miami, I put the Lakers back on the map. I went and got the Lakers one, that even though people try to throw that bullshit asterisk that I disagree with on. But yeah, now if I could go to a— I could even do it in Philly. I could even do it in Philly.

I started to end your career as a Sixer. I started in Cleveland, I made a full transition, I come back to Cleveland and end my career there. That's the fairy tale story. Not one of those Sixers. Cleveland has a better shot of winning him a ring.

I don't think so, but I don't think Cleveland got a better shot. But not me neither. I mean, I, I don't know how good James Harden will be, but I don't make it about basketball. I, I'll just say this, I think saying we could— I could even win the Sixers a ring is a hell of a storyline about his greatness on some legend shit. Also, he grew up admiring AI.

AI. That was, you know, he said that was his favorite player. Oh my God, Elmira's finest, Big Parks, is in the building. Parks, how you doing, man? I'm great, good.

We love that. Big Po is here, Corey is here, Erickson is here, Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very, very, very important people out there are here. We're so glad y'all could be here with us. You could have been anywhere in the world.

This nigga started talking about Allen Iverson, he looked up there. All right, 250th anniversary of the Liberty Bell was his favorite thing growing up, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like I'm just telling you why he gonna do it. He's gonna do it because they can win. Yep, that's the main reason.

You got it. Well, what else are you guys most passionate about? By the way— And don't say Doom! No, no, I was thinking Ice because he helped me this weekend. I lost my mother-in-law for like a couple hours.

Wait, all right, don't say it like that. Yeah, goddamn it. No, no, no, no, no, no. So every week I'm in charge of taking her to church church. Uh-huh.

I drop her and I leave, and she no longer— it's a kind of— it conflicts with my schedule. Like, it's really hard to take her because I got other shit I want to do. And now she has dementia, so every week I'm facing this moral quagmire. Like, she don't know if I take her to church or not.

I could just— I could just tell my wife, like, yo, I— that church is You just leave her? I mean, it's church. What's gonna happen? All right, come on. No, I pick her up.

I pick her up afterward. But what I'm saying is, I wasn't even gonna— I had something else to do, so I wasn't even gonna take her. I was gonna leave her at the spot, and later on, if she say she, you know, whatever. But I decided to take her. But I didn't wait outside.

I went and did some other stuff. I had to— went to the dojo, actually. And so when I got back there— this nigga picked karate over— yo, I slapped the shit out this nigga. I almost slapped him. Go ahead, man.

She wasn't there, Flip. Shit, I don't know. He didn't know, bro. I didn't know. I had no idea.

Because why is— they put an AirTag on her? That's what I'm going to start doing. Cuz it told on her phone, like 12:15 I pick her up. I got there like 12:18 and there was nobody there. They must have got out early.

Old motherfuckers with dementia are elusive. They can get lost. Yo, she did. I asked everybody where she was. Nobody could find her.

Now fast. This isn't the first time I've lost her, it's the second time. So this time I knew how to find her, but I, I, because she got on the bus last time. Okay. Yeah.

So, but I didn't know how to— where the bus goes. So I called Ish, he didn't answer. Then I called— right, because I was like, who can help me get to Irvington faster than this? Then I called, then I called Ice and He helped me find the bus route, and I tracked her down on the bus route. She wasn't there.

And eventually I was able to locate her without telling my wife. That's the important part, because I was terrified. I was going— I was about to hit the shelters. I was going everywhere to try to find— where did you find her? She was back at her nursing home.

Apparently she forgot I was coming, and so she took a cab. Oh, I didn't know. But she didn't know her address, so I was— I didn't know how she was able to do that, but she was able to find it. And she had it written in her first. Well, that's the thing about old people with dementia too.

They're like keen senses, like just off their memory of the world they can make it. Yo, they like a seal. Like a what? A whale? Oh, that's a whale bird something.

I know your heart was being fat. They got memory. You didn't tell your wife at all? You told her? I didn't tell her.

I told her after after. That's what you told me. That's a funny story. But, but as the time goes on, like, the, the less— if you don't tell her within 15 minutes, you can't tell her, right? Because I— now I lost your mom, but I didn't tell you I lost your mom.

Got it. So now I got to find her mom before I can— you, you always bring back good news. Mhm. You know what I mean? So I brought back good news.

Let me tell y'all something, white people on Dateline handle this shit so different.

Yo, Honey, taking mommy-in-law for a trip.

We're going— I can't stop. No, white motherfuckers kill the shit out of somebody. They do, they do. I don't know what happened. There's a ransom note.

Yeah, right. I adore her. I was so scared. That was dark. But it's coming back in like 2 minutes.

I reason I didn't pick up because I said, already give me me the information. I was walking through the bus terminal in Irvington looking like food to them motherfuckers, man.

It was that— you saw old lady, my mother, you was showing their pictures, dog. They was shooting up in there, fucking in their feet. They was, they was rolling dice, all kinds of shit.

I got the fuck up out of there. I think if she here, she, she, she, she going to, she going to fin for something. She'll figure it out, she got this far. Stop, bro. Stupid.

Yo, he left. Stop. Yeah, man. No, but thank you, Ice. No doubt, man.

I'm glad it worked out. So next week I'll wait. I know I'm slow. What did Ice do? He didn't know.

He looked— I had no idea how to find the bus route. I had no idea how to follow the bus to where the bus— he didn't know where the bus station was. I'm not from here. He not from up here. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Just put the bus in. No joke. He didn't know the bus. I don't even know the terminal name. He didn't know the church is in downtown he was in Newark, and I had no idea where the bus in Newark— though I didn't even know went to Irvington.

That's what I'm saying. He gave me all that. Yeah, I mean, I just knew she got on the bus before, so no, he didn't know nothing. So he said there's a bus— what was it, Irvington? Yeah, and that's where all the buses go apparently.

So I went there and got it because he was like, yo, one that goes like that way, I know that much. But it wasn't even the right information. No, but I mean, the fact that he was willing to help— that's true. I was just happy for the help. Yeah, no, it actually took— get an AirTag.

I think so. I thought that was gonna be the answer. Or I could just wait in front of the church. Wait at the church. Oh yeah, not your mother-in-law's dementia by herself.

All right, Judge Judy, somebody's gonna put you in a lot. It's an hour and 20 minutes in front of a Catholic church. What am I gonna do with my son?

Let them go in the church, they'll be out faster. That's true.

You start throwing water on them. Yeah, that's crazy. Oh shit, speaking of, uh, older people, uh, Jackie Robinson's widow Miguelito just celebrated, uh, her birthday the other day. She celebrated being 104 years old, so make some noise. Happy birthday.

Uh-huh. She's— she's— did you guys happen to see a picture of— no, I did, I did. What's wrong? She looks great for 104. She looks really, really good for 104.

Let me see. Or 94. Or 84. 74? Yes.

She looks really, really good to be 104 years old. That's the first time I've ever had the thoughts that I had.

What? What's the thoughts you had? Ain't that a crime? Yes, it should be. No, you should be ashamed of yourself.

What's the thoughts you had, Joe? What? Why? Why should I be ashamed of myself? You said you'd fuck Cher.

Same shit. 30 years different. She's supposed to be Cher's mom. And I wasn't. That's at 70 at white is about 120, 125, whatever the else.

It's kind of— carry the one. I know, she just look good, that's all. That's all I'm saying. God bless her. And you had thoughts?

God bless her. Yeah. Wow. Wow was my thought. Wow.

That was it. That's it. Okay, Mark, you had the same thought, right? Times 2. Yeah.

Wow. Wow. Fold the shit out that old lady. That old lady wouldn't stand a chance. You know what I mean?

Causing death. You know what I'm saying? What the fuck? Way too early in the show. I'll fuck that lady to heaven.

With the OJs playing. Here we go. Y'all are terrible. Fuck is you talking about? Fold up too.

Shit. And they more flexible when they 100. That's true. It's quite the opposite.

Too far back if you want.

Put that leg over there if you want. Nigga, some shit break off. This nigga's crazy. Anyway, shout out, shout out to her. Shout out to her.

Happy birthday. When we When I called you, you didn't pick up at first. Were you out of town? Yeah, I was in DC. Huh, what you doing out there, boy?

When Mark called me, fucking sweating my balls off. Yo, whoa, oh nigga, yeah, you get straight to it. Okay, that's my son. Yeah, you back, you back at 50, nigga. That old thing, he won't hit you cuz he drop you.

Yeah, pick, boy. I don't even— I don't know what this nigga talking. You said fuck it and you stopped. Fuck it. I said— I didn't say— I said when Mark called me.

Yeah, you said— you got to mention too, called me, fucking— and then it was a little pause after that. I was hanging sheet rock, sweating my balls off, yo. Yeah, man, when Mark called me, I was working. So you bought a new— you bought a new spot out there? I seen the BTS were trying.

I was hanging sheetrock like crazy. You bought a spot out there? That's what they call it. I was working, my brother. All right, that's awesome, man.

Hope, hope you had a blast. I was trying to get to Ish, took the train back. I see where he was going. I was just going to Ish, took the train back, and just nobody follow me. Go ahead, give it a shot.

That's not his fault we did— we took him the wrong— I just said he took the— anyway, never mind, his fault. I thought, I thought it was— we wrote it on the board and everything. I thought this would be one of them like— stop doing that to my man, y'all. No, it's not about Ish. Enough Y'all started fucking with him about hanging sheetrock.

That's what we got to do. I just wasn't— he took the train back. We were joking about taking the train. It never— no, shit was horrible. Uh, uh, uh, couldn't get a flight out.

The flight stopped kind of early yesterday, and them shits was mad expensive.

What the fuck is so funny, you stupid nigga? I have no idea. He's spitting coffee all over the place. Stop! It's a show.

He ain't do shit. Stop! I'm not like I'm not allowing y'all to do that. Stop playing. No, and this comes out.

Show Joe's face when he started talking. You do this thing where you purse your lips up and you turn to the side because you about to clown for no fucking reason. He was telling a good story. I promise you I wasn't doing that just now. You're fucking acting.

I thought you was laughing because he said the flight— every time he out of town, Delta have problems. His delays get longer. Flight cancellations, fucking free condoms being given out.

That's when they come up and say, hey, anybody that's— we having some trouble. Anybody willing to travel later gets a room and condoms. That's what it's going to run up there. This is crazy. Oh God.

Yo, y'all don't judge them people to go up there. Nah, they give you some bread.

I'd be jealous. I would do it depending on how bad I gotta get back. I would do it. I always wish I could do it. Yeah, what you gotta get back for?

To be a father?

What you rushing back? No, see, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking. What? No, y'all don't tell the people for real when they're not paying you big time money, because some of them tricks, they be like, yo, I got $1,500. Yo, I made more from the fucking flight delay than I did off the gig.

I was like, All right, if they tell me I can just stay another day, is this place I want to be? Yeah. And give me a whole other free ticket. Yeah. I just never had the time to do it.

I always have to get back. Yeah, I never did it. But sometimes when things be $800,000 to take the next flight for one— yeah, it's crazy. $1,500 is crazy. Yeah.

But no, I, I wouldn't do it. My ego would be kicking in, I guess. Did you go on the train? Hell yeah, that shit was terrible. What train was it, Amtrak?

Yeah, it was on The regular joint. But you still— you still was business class and all that other shit? No, that business class was ass. That was a small business. That shit was horrible, my nigga.

My neck was hurting. They ain't had no USB-C, all that shit. I'm on the phone with Ice like, yo, this is some bullshit. Y'all call each other for everything.

I never been happier. To not talk to you niggas outside. Yo, you believe they don't have a U— UCBS in this motherfucking train? Oh my God. But no, that shit was trash.

That's how you know you getting bougie. Yeah, that shit was terrible. I'm not even gonna hold you. And that seller cuts like an hour off the trip, so the last hour I was awake. You were awake on a train in business class?

Must go horrible. I'm sorry you went through that. Pursuit of Happiness Part 2. Wilmington. Fuck out of here.

No, that shit was horrible, my nigga. Man, no bueno. Oh man. All right, but did she check on you at least? Who, she?

My girl, nigga. Come on, my girl booked it. Don't be stupid. Who else would it be? My girl booked that.

They playing. All right, now my lip is doing the thing.

Hey, I felt it.

My girl. Anywho, talking about This motherfucker. Stop. Hey, what are y'all most passionate about? Come on, let's have a good time.

Clearly nothing. Let's have a good time. Oh man, I'm— I like the verses. I don't know if y'all want to start there. Let's go!

Let's do it. They gonna call us the Versus cast. Yeah, well, we don't got to start there then. Y'all want to? No, you can call me a Versus cast.

I don't give a fuck. They called worse. I think me and Ice gonna be— I think me and you gonna agree on this. Um, well, they announced another versus which will be later this week. It's, uh, Game versus YG.

Tomorrow. Oh, tomorrow. Tomorrow. Damn, that's quick. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz— yeah, but yeah, um, I saw a lot of— oh, this don't even make sense, Game is going to wash.

I think y'all look for a rude awakening. Yeah, YG is going to surprise, and it's in Cali. It's in Cali. Oh yeah, I got YG. I got YG.

I got YG winning. Okay, so we all agree here, really? Yes. And I like Game's music more. I love Game's music.

YG out there is different. Not in California. He has anthems out out there. Game raps better. Game makes better albums.

Game is the better artist. For a versus stage, well, YG is— it's apples, it's apples. YG came out at that pop-up, it was like Michael Jackson or something went on stage. Like, people came rushing out of nowhere, bum rushing the whole show. You think that the crowd in, in the venue are going to dictate who wins when we're watching it?

It does a lot. Yeah, they can. Okay, I got, I got, I got, I got Game, and people going to forget how many, how many anthems YG got. Yep. Yeah, but come on, Dream, Blood, nigga, Hate It or Love It, like what we talking about?

Like what's, what's, what? Yeah, I don't think Dream does as well as you think it will in the Versus crowd. I see everybody kept going to that record. YG got songs, bro. When BPT come on, you'll see.

Yeah, there's— I don't— there's— there might be one record in Game's catalog that could fuck with BPT on a Versus stage. I'm only— I'm not talking I ain't talking about the better rapping. I'm just specifically saying on a versus stage, hit for hit, in a California crowd, it ain't a lot of— This is how we do, nigga. What's that? You don't think this is how we do gonna do good out there?

Of course it will. That's the record I was talking about. Flip, how you think last time I check gonna go off? Exactly. Right.

That shit gonna set the— Just that right there, they turned already. As soon as the beat drop. Okay, hold on.

I'm telling you something, okay? I give Jesse— I don't know.

There was nothing bad I could say. Yeah, my nigga, come on. Problem. Who you guys— you got, you got YG winning as well? No, no, you got a nigga.

I'm from the era. I ain't these niggas. I ain't none of these new niggas. I'm from the era. I'm from the town.

Yeah, I'm from the town. I don't know what they doing. I'm shocked at Ice. I saw Ice's tweets. Why you shocked at me?

I was just— Why you shocked at me? Oh, shit. Why was I shocked at you? Yeah, I'm just curious. Because I've heard your commentary about Game over the years, and I almost feel like I've heard you say, niggas don't want to see Game.

Nobody give a fuck about Game. I know how you feel about Game. So the fact that once it was announced and all your tweets to me look like it was actually— you said it, I got YG. Yeah, I do have— I, like I said in the beginning, Game is a much better rapper. Game has probably, in my opinion, a top 5 discography in hip-hop.

We not talking about that on a versus stage though. I'm only speaking to this being a versus. If this was anything else, it's, it's not close. And in California, I know what YG Music— is Game not from California? Why y'all keep saying this?

Because I'm confused. He's like California fucks with YG Music way more than Game, though. He's like a culture game. It is, it is, it is, it is, it is. Listen, it's levels.

I can't argue with y'all because on a Versus stage we have seen the regional sound be dominant. Yeah, yeah, we've seen that. So I'm not gonna say that anybody's crazy. I'm not doing none of that. I think Game is going to learn a lot of people, and I think it's just the other way around.

I think a lot Game is more— YG may win in that building because of LA, but I don't even know about that, cuz I expect Game to make it look like it's supposed to look. See, I think just YG being there makes it look like it's supposed to look. Well, he's going to make it look like it's supposed to look without Game. No, no, nah, I got Game matching that energy. Let me ask you, what does, what does, what does Game do with Is that slower?

No.

Hey, I'm telling you, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute now, wait a minute, wait. Hey, I'm conceding that point, nigga. I'm playing some bullshit when that come on. Yeah, I'm going to the bathroom. I ain't playing nothing.

Album y'all never heard. Yo, pick up my new I'm dropping this tonight. Freestyle now. Yeah, I'm conceding. Now what?

Now what you got? Okay, now what you got, big dog? Throw my 4 Club out. You such a phony nigga. You got a chord now for YG.

I thought you was gonna come here and start playing game records, go Ali Bumba and all that shit, and I was ready. That's why I'm like, oh no, no, no, go ahead. I can't believe you, but I didn't do nothing. I let you go. I just played 2 records.

But I'm not playing nothing. What are you talking about? You backed him down. Was he challenging me to like some type of— you've done that in the past and I ain't have a cord, so I said, you know what, I told Parks this morning, let me get a cord. Yeah, you've done that.

What are you gonna do to this? And you plugged up and threw a record on. I gotta sit here with the rabbit. Yeah, I thought he was just asking a question, which is what does he do when this comes on? I say concede.

So you, you played two records. He got 8 of them.

They making me mad.

They making me mad. About to open this laptop. I'm about to open this laptop. Freeze, you think he will? You think he scares somebody with that laptop?

Why would a laptop— I think I got a laptop too. I feel like Game got a lot more records. He does. I feel like Game has a lot more records. He don't have as many big records.

That's what we talking about. All we talking about for the— Game has all the big records. Let me please Give me 4. You only got to play them, just say them if you want. God, hit it.

Love it. One Blood. One Blood. Okay. Um, How We Do.

This Is How We Do, that's 3. Come on. And Dream, 4. 100. 100 is a better— yeah, I'm waiting for 100.

Yeah, yeah. 5, Game Drake, 100. Yeah, yeah, Game Drake, okay. 100. One Blood, higher.

Fucking— it's just off the top of my head. You know you're G-unit back. I'm not talking to you. You just G-unit it out right now. That's all that is with this nigga.

Yeah, like, that's what I know. That's half the songs you just said. Yeah, they didn't go out there the way you did. I just called out 6, nigga. Last time that I checked, nigga, we can see it today, right?

Shut your ass up, nigga. Shut the fuck up now. I'm like, you do certified gangsta on some just coming out, on some just coming out shit. Fuck you talking about? Don't piss me off.

Who the fuck you thought was coming after Young Buck, nigga? And this is just on some light shit, like playing. We didn't have to go back and forth. Give me a score? Give me a score.

It's going to be close. I got 12-8. I got a close— yeah, yeah, I got 12-8. Yeah, why? I got YG, but by, by, by maybe 2 rounds.

Let me advance the conversation, right? If YG— that's— that just happened. That was a mistake.

You bitch ass nigga, free you. I promise that was a mistake. You did that on purpose. If YG If Game wins this, it's gonna be 'cause— it's 'cause he's great and he's got a great catalog. Yes.

But it's gonna be 'cause of Mustard. That's okay. We're with— Not always. We're with— I know he's got more, but his classic is with Mustard. He's got classics with Mustard.

He got classics after Mustard. With Game, it's not necessarily fair because he tarnished his relationship with his producer guy. And if him and Dre was cool, then this conversation goes different. Differently. Okay, that could be true, but YG— hold on, YG and Mustard also had a falling out and didn't work together for a long time, and he put out a bunch of records that still worked that he are gonna— that's gonna— that you're gonna hear at this versus stage without Mustard.

Mustard wasn't YG's whole career. They fell out, I think, maybe after like album 2. Yeah, and he kept going. So he got records that are gonna play, that are gonna work, that are gonna get that crowd rocking, that are gonna score points with no Mustard. It's going to be a lot of mustard, which I'm okay with.

Let me hear one. Oh cool, let me hear one since you got a chord. Yep, I got a chord. Since you got a chord, let me hear some non-mustard. Oh shit, you going to play that record where he talked about how he lost his— No, no, how he lost his virginity, how the babies— how the babies— Stop that.

Come on, let's see. Let me see what you got. The Breakfast is coming on in LA. Nothing bigger than this. The roof going to come off that.

I ain't going to lie. That's just one. Hold on, it's why you so old, nigga. Feature bag is going to be— the roof is where he's going to really get crazy. If you drag him in the feature bag water, it's going to get— it's going to get murky.

YG has those. But hold on, what feature? What feature you got? You got a chord? Let me hear.

I know you got a chord. Let me hear. Maybe I don't know. He'll play this one. You good?

That's coming on. That has mustard.

That's a tough one. This nigga YG is just too LA. Hey yo, look, that's coming on and it's going to work in LA.

Oh shit, I'm telling you something, bro. It's going, it's going to look a lot more— if YG wins, I don't know if I'm going to come and admit it. Oh, that's fine, you won't have to. I'm coming, you don't have to admit it. I didn't— trust me, I barely scratched the surface.

I don't know if Game Takes even accepts this if it's as lopsided as Ice makes it. I didn't say lopsided. Yeah, but you playing a lot of joints. I'm saying 12-8. I, I mean, I'm not saying this ain't going to be Pretty Ricky, BTK.

If it ain't going to be a tie, either let 7-9 to 12-8. Like, you can't get much, you know what I mean? Like, look, let's put it like this. When Ross and French was announced, people were like, yo, this is not a matchup. And then French went in there and reminded niggas, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

The consensus was French won that Versus. Stop. Question: has there been a Versus— it can happen, bro. Question: has there been a Versus where the underdog hasn't won? Yeah, yeah.

Like, tell me which one has not— has not won. Because it seems like Versus a lot of times is Who?

I don't think the LOX was the underdog. The LOX was 100%. I don't, I don't know about that. Yes, there was. Check your own, check your own tape.

I believe— I think I could be wrong. Dipset, Dipset, all these fucking new kids running around. That's what I'm saying. You got to be from the cloth a little bit with these things. My only point is like the underdog wins a lot in verses, a lot.

And part of it is because he of late, cuz they catch people by surprise. That's what I'm saying. We've seen it a lot. So I wouldn't— and YG's the underdog in this, cuz that's— who the underdog of Ja Rule, Fat Joe? Fat Joe?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it. Yeah, that's true. That's, that's a good example. That's a good example for him.

All right, we can go back to it. Oh shit, all right, I forgot. Yeah, hold on, I don't know just yet. Hold up. Been around the world, been around the Vita used to have my boy Ish nose in that.

Yo, I ain't gonna hold you. Yo, hey, my boy ish— Vita Guerrero used to have my boy in a curly fry. There's nothing wrong with that. A frenzy, my nigga. He ain't never gonna admit to it because ego, you know.

But back in the day, bro, Something wrong with you, bro. There's nothing wrong with it. She did that to mad . I wasn't— did you play this already? No, I did not.

They all sound the same. Oh, how many of these Oh my God, bro, play if you want. Yeah, YG's tough out. Yeah, I'm telling you, he's a tough out. Yo, I would have rather have seen YG versus Tyga.

Stop it. Wait, I get it, but this is a confident thing. That's the, that's the 40-yard dash versus the 200-yard dash. Tiger got a lot of slaps. That's another one I want on the stage, on the Versus stage.

To remind people, because when their name come up, it's like, ah, but then when you start to hear them, you're like, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. That's what YG's gonna do. That's why I like verses. I like when that happens, when that— Pretty Ricky, we was telling niggas, yo, I don't know, and then what happened? Oh shit, oh damn, oh fuck.

Pretty Ricky ain't— I still got some of them songs playing. Pretty Ricky went there and turned it different. Pretty Ricky made B2K push their little single drop back, whatever that little Maled record was.

They pushed that shit back, boy. Talking about some Maled. Yeah, I know, they sat down. I know, we didn't talk last week about, uh, DJ Khaled's pushback. Oh, did he actually announce it?

Did it just not drop? It didn't drop, and then I saw him on an interview talking about it not dropping. Let me see if I can find the clip as y'all speak. I knew that wasn't dropping. Oh yeah, everybody, because Khaled Khaled, for Khaled to drop, he needs the single, the banger.

No, he needs a hit. Well, it has to be a— but you, but you know how the way he does everything, it has to be massive. Yeah, true. So without that, it's been way too quiet for Khaled. He can't drop no album right now.

Yeah, you can't drop an album, impossible. I'm telling you, once, once he put that, that little Drake post up there, Drake Bell, you knew right then and there because he was probably relying on those records to be— got it. Yeah, damn, he was running around the last album with the Drake features came in, that— I mean, the Drake vocals came in, that was the rollout. Yeah, letting know, hey, I got the Drake vocals, and now if I can't use that, you took my big joker away and I only had one spade anyway. Yeah, Khaled should have spoke up.

Yeah, I don't see it. That said Drake Bell. That was funny, son. So what does he do now? You think he waits like a long time, like pushes it back like crazy, or you think it's just a couple weeks?

I think Um, but he still needs a single. Yeah, so until we get a single, we'll have no idea. Why does he need a single? Because that's what Khaled built his brand on. But so why he can't change it?

Because he's not— because he can't— I don't think he'll take the risk. He can't. He's not a performer. Yeah, he's not making music. Yeah, he can't like put out a song without it.

Yeah, you need a single if you're not— I think, if I'm not mistaken— oh, go ahead. I think this Aroma record is part of all my studio process. Um, you know, like I said, everything's for my family. And you know, this album, everybody been waiting for it. You know, I was originally going to come out this week, you know what I'm saying?

But the album keeps getting bigger and bigger, so we need a bigger date. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That's just how it goes with music, you know what I'm saying? You remember, I've been doing this for 20 years, you know what I'm saying? I put out 13 albums.

I am beyond grateful and thankful for everything that we've done, right? And hip-hop changed my life, and I live and breathe and sleep and, and embrace hip-hop. That's what I am. But this next album, Allah God, it's like, why am I gonna rush? And every time I make some new music, I get another opportunity to make something even bigger.

And I get— like, I just left the Jay-Z shows, the, uh, Roots Picnic the other day, the Jay-Z show. I got inspired even more. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, man, I went all 3 nights. Yeah, all 3 nights.

So I got inspired even more. I think all that could be true, and he doesn't have— that's right. I don't know if it's cap. I believe that he's— if he had record. I'm just saying a record that I could begin my rollout on, it would be out.

Agreed. He don't have that. I think both can be true. He's experienced enough and, and accomplished enough to know when I got that song. Yes.

And I need one of them songs. I can't drop— I think it's a bunch of people y'all got fucked up. What you mean? Y'all think Cali can't get a record because Drake said it must— No, no, no, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying.

No, he might not have the song. Feels confident enough to be like, this is one of the ones to reintroduce myself after this long layover. Look at the records that Khaled has rolled out for his albums as his singles. He had— take Drake off the table, and I'm not talking about back to the like I'm On Ones, I'm just talking about as a recent— you have to take— I'm back to even before that, but I'm saying you've had the Rihanna, Bryson Tiller record, um, Hov and, uh, Future. You've had, um, what else?

You— oh, I said Drake a couple times. You had Kanye. Like, you, you need to go and get these people. If you move Drake off the board, Hov is clearly doing something, so he might not be giving you one right now. You're, you're, you're, you already only got 4 or 5 pieces that you could use, and if they're not in the mix, it's hard for you to get that level of record that you need.

Everything else will be fire. I'm pretty sure Khaled has a album, but he's missing the one to get the ball rolling, and he can't get it right now. And that might be his own standard. Again, yes, yeah, I want one of those. I don't want to— I don't want something.

I'm not dropping it. And again, he's the dude that would know it when he got it. Yeah, he know lightning in a bottle when he sees it. Or he could be going to get it. Yeah, that's what we think.

I'm saying he don't got it yet. If you were going get it, we wouldn't have had the album date from him. We wouldn't have had all of that yet. He hasn't done that like that. Well, no, he had the date because I believe he had a record, and now he don't have a record.

That's— you saying what we saying? He don't have a record yet. Yeah, but y'all saying it as if he can't get it. No, no, no, no. Yeah, even you saying there's only 5 pieces he can move around.

I, I disagree with that. I think his relationship— that's what— that's what you're not hearing what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying 5 pieces to move around for that big record to start the album. But why? I'm disagreeing with that because that's the bar that he said.

He started that, but there's— but not with 5 people is all I'm saying. As of late, go to— go look at his discography. The last, let's say, 5 Khaled albums, the lead single has been one of maybe 5 people. And if they're not in the picture, what do I do now for the lead single? I'm only talking about the lead single.

He started like the Bieber record. He did it with fucking, uh, T.I.'s Hot Right Now.— brand is and what he presents today. Nothing against TI. I need something that when I drop it, it's number one on the chart immediately. Let me— I'm not gonna do that for him.

You think that— because we put a lot of this on Khaled— you think that there's a world where Roc Nation is not going to have him have that? I think this Aroma record is the start of that. It's the start of what? The, the Khaled rollout run. I think that's this.

Joe and Jada are smoking hot. They're Roc Nation. Khaled's Roc Nation. This whole place— Stove Guy, Roc Nation. This whole place, Roc Nation.

The, the premiere of the record, the record being out, the track, the traction around the record. I think this is the start for the Khaled rollout. And if this is the start and you're right, I'm going to trash the shit out of this guy. But he still needs one of them. I'm saying he's finally got something.

We ain't even seen him outside of being visible at games and stuff. The way that they premiered this record, him standing up doing his dancing and all of that shit, we ain't seen Khaled like that. This is rollout. They just shot the video. They just shot the video.

This is rollout. We'll tell Joe it's his family, so we're gonna shoot the video. Okay, I think it's part of it. What's the new date? I don't know, right?

We don't know. We don't have a date. Yeah, Khaled wasn't even on the board. What else we got? Y'all know how after that.

No, that shit— you don't like that record? I love that song. Yes, but not for a talented first single. No, no, no, right? And that's all I'm saying.

Like, I mean, I know we kind of closed this, but all the people that he normally would run with— Wayne, Ross, T.I.— they're not gonna move the needle to where he needs it. What about Chris? What about Biebs? What about, uh, shit, Tiller again? What about— they're not gonna do it.

Why would Tiller— oh, you're saying that wouldn't be a name? Yes, it wasn't Tiller, it was Rihanna and Tiller that did the record. True, true. Rihanna's again another one off the, off the table. That's true.

Joe, Future, there's other people. Yeah, but you would have to do something. It's hard right now. Make a big record. If you put Future on a big record that— that's all I'm saying.

It could work. Yeah, Joe, you're an apology. What happened? I watched the Rihanna footage again. I realized that when I was— when we were watching it that night, I may have been caught up in the moment and all the shots, all of that intimacy.

Um, it was not quite the level of performance that I would have expected from the legend. Yeah, I really don't understand. Why would you have any expectations for somebody that was laid off for about 3 years after having children. I'm not applying any judgment to it. I just was— I was just fighting back like it wasn't that bad.

It was, it was that bad. Got it. That's all I'm saying. And again, I love her, I adore her, and I think she's gonna come back with something fire. But that— in my mind, in my mind, in my mind, in real time, 5-hour layover.

Again, no judgment. The show was supposed to start at 8 o'clock. They went on stage at 12-something. By the time she got on the stage, it might have been 1-something. I'm sitting in the back enjoying my myself.

They won't let my husband and my babies in. I'm back this bitch tossing them. Shit, we was— I'm no judgment. I'm just saying, I didn't— when I watched it back, it was not— you know when you in the moment, you don't see it the same way? When I went back and watched it, I was like, oh, you guys are too critical for me.

My witch was— Dre, I see Dippy. Oh, this thing is petty.

I ain't running just yet from the beef, nigga. I ain't running just yet from the beef. Still here. Shut your ass. Don't make him put up the court again.

Shut your

Yo, listen, man, now it's time for my favorite part. Fertility, nigga. Wow, wow, wow. He punched it right in the mouth. Yeah, that nigga said that.

Punch it right in the mouth. That's my favorite part too. Go ahead, get to it.

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You see what he did? Yeah, nigga punched him as hard as he could and ran as fast as he could. Game has 10,000 songs in my Serato, so I'm just randomly pulling shit up. I do think that with a concentrated effort, he'll show better today off the wing. I expect Ice to fully beat me down with YG songs, so I'm backing down.

Fair enough, fair enough. That's cool. I was listening to, uh, the conversation going online about, uh, 50 Cent and whether 50 could do what Jay just did at Yankee Stadium, you know, 3 nights, etc. And I wasn't that interested in it until I saw 50 himself jump in. What did he say?

He basically said, check the number. He said, Google me, check the numbers. I've done international. He did. And I put up crazy numbers in stadiums around the world.

He did. You know, I thought it was an interesting comeback. I don't think it matters though. It's moved the goalposts a little bit because Hov did 3— well, 2 separate albums. Yeah.

So the thing is, can 50 do that? Now, I don't even think you could do it with one. I don't think he could definitely do it. You think he could sell Yankee Stadium on 3 nights bro? No, I don't know about that.

I think that's what I'm saying. Let me— now I think yes, if he did it with this format. If he did some Get Rich or Die Tryin anniversary night one, okay, packed. Yes, yes. No, no, no.

Yes, sellout. G-Unit night two, awesome G-Unit reunion type shit. The whole G-Unit night two. Oh, you mean with Game? Whatever.

G-Unit. No, you don't. Shit, crazy. G-Unit night. This is New York.

Yankee Stadium. This is New York. Ain't you want to say no, can't nobody sell out Yankee Stadium? It would be Shea Stadium, but still, G-Unit night too. And then 50 absolutely could do an extra innings type of shit for like 50 and Friends.

Yeah, yeah, and Friends, absolutely. Justin Timberlake, you're saying he could sell out? Yes. Mark, you're saying he could not? I don't see it.

Well, for one, I don't Um, you don't want to start saying no rappers out there— yeah, can sell out stadiums. No, no, no, I hate— don't misinterpret. I'm sorry, no rapper can do a tour, a stadium tour in the United States dolo. That's what I said. That's fair.

When I watch artists do their hometown, which does help, it's, it's an enormous accomplishment to be able to sell out a field, a whole, uh, a field, you Yes. Um, I think he could do it, but I've also seen people not do it. But when you start getting to night 2 and night 3, that's what you got to separate the nights. Hov wouldn't have been able to do it if it wasn't for Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint. If it wasn't for those themed— for those— if Hov just said, I'm doing Jay-Z and Friends, Yankee Stadium, 3 nights, I don't think he sells it out.

I'm telling you, I don't think he sells that out. I think wanting to see him is why he sold it out. Doing shows like that. He doesn't, he doesn't spread himself thin. And his catalog is so extensive that he has enough bangers that everybody that I saw in that crowd— man, woman, boy, girl, 20 years old, 40 years old— was singing those songs word for word for word.

You got to have 50 songs to do that, 60 songs to do that. I don't think that a lot of these artists' catalog is long enough where they have 50 and 60 recognizable songs by the Asses. With all, all due respect in the world to 50, I don't think 50 could physically do the show.

That's a lot. That stage was humongous. That's a lot. That nigga's breath control, he had to get in shape. That's why he walked out looking like that.

He was in shape. He was like— 50 is in TV world. I don't know if he's working out actively or— Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda finished that every sentence. Good point, good point. So would he be able to sell out?

Who knows. I think that leads to an interesting conversation too about who spends more money between Queens and Brooklyn, because Brooklyn— yeah, because Brooklyn showed up 3 nights in a row, bro. So it didn't really matter that— it didn't really matter that it was 3 nights. Brooklyn is coming out all 3 times, same people. Yeah.

Can Queens do that? I think it takes some more than that because there are people that flew in from other states and went to 2 and 3 shows. They didn't go to one show and go back home. Motherfuckers was here from DC, motherfuckers was here from LA that went to all 3 shows. Who was here from DC?

Mad people, you know. Mad motherfuckers was here, yo, that went to all 3 shows, you know what I'm saying? So, but me a couple names.

Cynthia, Lisa, Angela, Pamela, Renee.

No, I just think that, I think that 50 Cent could definitely, easily, easily, easily, easily shell out. He should do that first with all white names. Um, Shea Stadium. It was Sally and Becky, Karen, Cynthia. You know what I mean?

But I, I just don't know if he could do it 3 nights. Even if he broke it up in a manner in which Ice broke it down, I don't think 60,000 people come out to see you. But I'm just saying, you have to break it— you have to break it up that way. You, you have to. I'm saying he did— I'm not— and this again, it's ain't no shot to 50 Cent, he's him.

I just don't think that 50 Cent's catalogs— Jay-Z got 16 albums, dog, of recognizable songs. So my point is, even if the album was bad. It's 3 recognizable, 4 recognizable songs per album. I just don't think 50 Cent and them got enough songs to warrant people coming out 3 days in a row to see you. The whole Saturday show wasn't but 90 minutes.

Yeah, he didn't play all those songs. Okay, 90 minutes. And like I said, if I'm doing Get Rich or Die Tryin' night 1, 50 could do 2 hours again, 3 nights in a row. That's the point that we making. Of course he can sell.

Let me ask another question. This is a little more, a little more touchy But like, there's a way that the Jay-Z event was a celebrity event. It was a star-studded event. People from all over— you had to be there. It was a can't-miss event.

Yes. The 50 show was going to be for the heads. The 50 show was going to be for people who love 50. And I love 50. I love G-Unit.

But 50— but Jay-Z's kind of worshiped and loved. He's like a star star.

I get what you saying. They going to call me over and jump— no, I get what you saying. What you getting? Let him say it, nigga. I don't think 50 is— I was hoping somebody 50's not gonna bring out the stars.

Like, that's what he's trying to say. He's not coming out to see 50 Cent. The actors and the A-listers and the who's who's may not fill up the stadium for 50 Cent. Fam, niggas treated that New York run that Hov did— no matter where you were in the world, you had to be there, right? Like, there was more— like you said, niggas— and because it was the importance of Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint, Extra Innings, you had to catch all three of them.

That's what I'm saying. It ain't like, yo, all right, I caught this this night, we out. You gotta get the whole relationship. DC coming all the way up. We know that Eminem and Dre made sure for 50.

Yes. Okay, but they ain't coming 3 nights. They don't have to. Keep going. Right, we don't know the other relationships, nigga.

We put TV execs, nigga. I don't know. I'm asking you, I think performing with him. Okay, that's on stage. Listen, yeah, that's the other thing.

I don't know who coming to perform with 50. 50 has made him himself, uh, I don't know his relationships, but if we talk about music, is that he has sort of made himself and caused a separation between him and a couple of artists and people based off of his jokes and online. So that's what I'm trying to say. People are taking that personal, then yes. However, I do see some people coming out for 50 celebrating Get Rich or Die Tryin' because of what that album did for niggas in that time, same what Jay album did.

I can see people coming out. They don't necessarily have to be his friend or be cool with him, but go back stage. I see niggas coming outside. Using your point, right? Using your point, let's say he mended all of his relationships across the board, every single one of them, and everybody was open to coming.

Dre, Em, Game, Lil' Kim, Lil' Magic Stick, Kim, all his relationships. Mhm. Jah. Jah. They never had a song.

Now we in fantasy world. They never had a song. No, no, no, no, we talking again. They don't have songs. I'm talking about what I got songs with.

Oh, oh, my bad, my bad. But, um, just in this intro, are there any artists that could do it outside of New York, in other cities? Yes. 3 nights at a stadium. The only— I immediately thinking of LA.

Okay. I think Kendrick could do it for sure. I think Drake could do it in Toronto, by the way. But I, I think, but I think Kendrick can do it, and I also think Dr. Dre. And Dre, yeah.

Eminem could do it. He could do it in Detroit for sure. And we could do it in Detroit for sure. Detroit. That's kind of it.

Kanye. Kanye. Kanye could do 30 nights. I'mma keep it a buck with us. That's a fact.

What'd you say? Kanye do 30 nights and she— that's a fact. He could do a month. Yeah, who else? They love him.

Who? Who? It's only— and, and they'll pop out for the— oh yeah, Outkast. Outkast, sure. Outkast could do it for sure.

Outkast could do that in Atlanta. That's true. Still only a few heads. Yeah, I'm just saying what other names could do it. We still counting on two hands.

I mean, it ain't like— it ain't a lot. And a lot— stadiums, stadiums are hard to fill. Yes. Yes. Yo, bro, having the interest of the masses— movie theaters are hard to fill.

Anywhere with people sitting in the audience, they got to pay for some shit. Yeah, you're right. Putting asses in seats. And 3 nights in a row is a unique challenge. 3 nights in a row is a testament.

Because it's not like you're doing the same show 3 nights, like, you know, you come to town. We're talking about 3 basically different shows, or 2 impossible kind of shows, with a lot of moving parts and a lot of people. That shit is hard, man. Yeah. Everybody.

Yeah, come on, we tossing the parks. Yes, yo, we tossing the park. We missed, we missed some music shit last week. First of all, I was— had a long little road trip to Vermont, had a good time in Vermont, ate some mushrooms by the fire, good times. But I had a long road trip, so I got to listen to all the music that I didn't listen to going, right?

That Sid album is very good, and I fucked up. There's, there's some good joints on there. I missed it. Hombre's album, also very very good. Come on though, get to it though.

Uh, this thing been in a group chat going crazy. I thought I was in the cult again and it worked. Steve Lacey's out also, pretty good. It's a little, uh, Miguel-ish, a little Frank Ocean-ish, but it— there's some good joints on there. But then I got to that Baby Rose album, which I'm glad you was going crazy in the group chat because I hadn't purchased it.

Yeah, I hadn't bought it at all. July is fucking me up. That's what it is. Why are we still in July? It's like 7 weeks in this shit.

I don't know what's going on. I looked the album up, the album came out July 10th. I'm like, what the fuck? You blaming July? It's not July.

It's July. July style. This your life. That's what I'm talking about, nigga. It's a lifestyle, nigga.

Everything is moving slow. You like, it's still July.

Welcome. Touch the grass, you bitch ass I've been having a blast, but we all are. Anyway, I got to this Baby Rose album, and if you are a music fan— oh yeah, you went to where I was going. Yeah, this is, uh, Is This Love, Baby Rose and Elminé. Elminé.

Étienne Elminé.

This shit is so crazy.

Is this love?

I am sure. Is this the way it's meant to be?

Is this love?

I don't know. Is this meant for you and me? This shit is so hard. This shit sound like R&B jazz if RZA was doing it, or if Alchemist was doing it. Her arrangements, the melodies, the pockets that she handles on this whole great driving album.

Great. Make you want to just leave the house to get in the car. Yeah, that's what I did. That's what I did. I went and took a ride.

I had cabin fever. Parks was in the group chat going crazy, and I'm talking to Siri, sending these texts. I left them on read because I was too embarrassed to say, oh, I ain't checked this yet, let me, let me go see. So I hit my girl like, yo, you want to just take a fucking ride? Oh, you went together?

Yes. Nice. I went to take a ride to the fucking house I purchased, see if I could see them. Okay, okay. Yeah, I went and took a picture of the little sold under contract, whatever the fuck this shit say.

But this album, on a late drive to Alpine, that shit is absolutely ridiculous. This fucking Leon Thomas shit. Oh, Leon Thomas was the joint I was about to say. Is there an album that is allowed to come out today without Leon Thomas? No, no, no, no, no, it's not.

It's the single. I played it when it was out, but niggas ain't really understand. Man, and turn it down a little bit. And I got to shout Baby Rose out because to make an incredible album in 2026 and stay true to her elements, like with her voice. Yeah, come on, man.

Yeah, she's unbelievable. Turn me up, turn me up, turn me up, turn me up, turn me up, turn me up.

Let's go, Leon! Goddamn!

All right, all right, all right, all right, let me jump in, let me jump in, let me jump in with a little bit. I'm starting in the middle. I'm starting— this is my favorite. This song is fucking incredible. I wasn't sure if the room was going to feel this one.

This one, it ain't a Miss Lonely Time for me, cuz this is when she really showed ass from Sunday on. Oh, let her go, let her go, let her go, let her go, let her go, let her go. It was made for listening and dancing in my kitchen. Go start a new beginning. Yes, Ice, this is a girl.

Maybe find my way. I'm not familiar, but she does not look how she sounds.

Is my redemption. Now I'm letting this rock. This shit is incredible. I'm letting this rock. Yeah, I mean, shout out to the heads out there.

Shout out to the Blue Note heads out there. Oh, this shit fire, yo. Shut up, friend. You Instagram. Yeah, I mean, shout out to the Village Underground heads out there.

Waiting on the sun to start over. Shout out to the bitches that cook breakfast, man. I ain't going to hold you. This shit feel like some fresh toast of pancakes with grape jelly. Smoke t-shirt on.

Yeah, where my party at? Hold up.

Oh, here we go. Give it to me. Background's coming in. Come on. Yeah, give it to me, give it Do it to me.

This one almost fell in the shower. I was like, oh shit. Yeah, nah, she bugged out. Brand new Baby Rose's record, it's called Sunday.

Yes sir. Yes, you can play this around the white joints, nigga. They gonna think you eclectic. Come on.

Hey, all right, I'm extra.

God damn. Yo, Baby Rose, thank you. Wow, Baby Rose, this album is absolutely incredible. My favorite album of the year by far, hands down. Just one of them.

It's one of them. It's one— she's one of them. She did it. And she's opening up for Olivia Dean. I'm— I gotta— they— you can't get tickets, but I'm sneaking in.

When? Where? I didn't hear this. MSG for 4 days straight. Oh, I'll be there.

Yeah, good Good luck, because she, uh, Olivia did the Ticketmaster fight. Yeah, and it's almost impossible to get tickets. If I get something, I'll let y'all know. Yeah, please. So, uh, last week when, uh, or last week when Tory Lanez dropped, I gave it a quick run-through because I didn't want to come into work and not have heard what Tory Lanez did.

But then I listened to it some more. I'm talking about the R&B side, the rap side. I know, I know. That's cool, have at it. But what he was able to do on that R&B project, like, if you don't mind his Drake influence, like, if you don't mind his being inspired by Drake and some of the sounds of some of the songs, he showed his absolute ass.

And it's all from jail, correct? Yes, but he on the side of jail with a studio. He cannot convince me otherwise. He got a whole fucking mattress. CEO or somebody.

He got a— somebody's bringing him out. That little— he— that stabbing shit. Yeah, right, nigga. You went to fucking Right Tracks or fucking Quad. Deadass.

Well, you can't convince me that's AI. I don't care. That ain't no damn AI. You cannot convince me it's AI. I heard what y'all was saying and it made sense.

No, sorry. He got Pro Tools. He got the proest of tools in that motherfucker. This is a really, really, really great R&B project from Tory Lanez. This record is called Cody.

That's the warden's office, nigga. This boy right here.

Hold up, man.

This is Dancer's Remorse. Tory Lanez. Made you think I was gone, but in your phone right now on DSPs right now. Turn up then.

I like all the songs where these niggas fall in love with the stripper and want to buy her mad clothes and pay her rent. And I don't know why that is. Relatable. No, for real, these niggas— Chris Brown so ill, he got a song on his album, I think it's called Moment, I think. That song, so the moment— for the moment, that song's so fire, all I do is just play it and vibe because it sounds great.

That's probably the best. But once he— what, what he's saying in there is, yo, I waited for the lights to come on in the strip club, and I waited the whole song. I waited. Uh, this is my advice to Tory Lanez, because I do have some advice for you. Here we go.

You got in your, uh, Ella Mai bag and you let us hear a little voice note. Is this, is this it? Let me see. Yeah, let me play this real quick so I can help Tory. Bitch broke my fucking heart.

My heart is broken, you know what I mean? Like, my trust is broken. There's so much that I tried to give, so much I tried to offer Tory, but it's like, that shit might have worked in '01. No, for real, in the '90s you could call your live and be like, yo, I heard you hurt my heart, yo, the bond we had had. In 2026, niggas is fucking your joint, Tory Lanez.

Niggas is fucking your girl. She listening to that message on a yacht. Yes. Yo, hey, Tory Lanez, I know you locked up, but out here, Paul cause the niggas is niggasin'. No, she let the other nigga hear it.

You hear this nigga? Yeah, yeah, on the yacht. Tory Lanez, the girl that you relying on like commissary, the one that you caring about and all that, she's fucking other niggas out here, dog. It's too long of a bid that you wouldn't did. Now if it was 2, 3 years, maybe she was holding down.

Oh, the girl— the girls are saying it today though. The second the cuffs are slapped on, they ain't with that waiting around. Damn, yo. They let niggas know up front, yo. Damn, all that hold it down, ride or die.

No, they're going. It happened to the most gangsterest. Mark did that shit. All this everybody equal shit. Look now, look now, look at the mess I created.

Now look how they treating us. Niggas can't even go to jail. Quick little child support warrant. Back in the day, niggas' moms and them used to wait, Mark. No, they didn't.

You think they waited? That's what I'm saying. Y'all dumb if y'all think they was waiting. Some of them They just didn't tell y'all they was— well, no, no, no, what they did was creepier than that. They held you down and they was getting held down.

Yes, that's what happened. Now they're not even doing that. I ain't know, nigga. I ain't know. As long as you don't know, you cool.

Because it'd be creeps like y'all niggas that be going after the niggas that girls— because y'all wasn't brave enough to do it while the tough nigga was home. That's not— wait till he get locked up and y'all fucking this girl behind his back, you suck-ass niggas. So look at y'all. Late, right? In the '20s I did both.

Was I relieved when he got locked up? Yes, for sure. It's the type of grimy nigga— hey yo, put this on his books.

You leave it on the dresser ass nigga, right? Put that on his books. No nigga, he's holding us down nigga. Whatever's gonna make her life less stressful.

Birdie. Uh, I don't have nothing else in music. I'm, I'm, I'm done with music. Shout out to Tory Lanez, Baby Rose, masterpiece you put out. Yes sir.

Uh, anything coming out Friday? I don't know, I don't think so, I don't think so. Be so out of time. I don't even care. Yeah, word.

I don't be knowing when it drop. Yeah, midnight, go check. All right, I don't care. I'm still on the albums that I'm on. Facts.

Yeah, I'm totally cool. Um, pretty much. So now we could talk about, uh, our friend of the show Ryan Clark indeed, uh, was let go, laid off, fired— I don't know what the word they use— but terminated from his gig at ESPN. Uh, and ESPN will have more layoffs on the way. That wasn't what the breaking news— Cam Newton was just— as the time we sit here, Cam Newton was just let go too.

Really? Shut up. Literally as we sitting here. Yep. Yeah, they said widespread layoffs.

They said it. They usually— any white names? I guess that usually means the Blacks. That's what it means. Well, Pat McAfee, if you care, is about to get an extension to make $60 million a year.

They got to get that money from somewhere. You know what $60 million is? Why does Disney have to get that money from somewhere? Yeah, even though that's what they're doing. But why does Disney have to do it?

Because they'll have a cap on we paying out of this pool right here. Oh, I got all the money. You said if you have an exorbitant amount of money, you shouldn't be held to the same standard. I'm saying that Disney don't need to fire people, look for no money, to put money in other people's pockets. Nobody got fired up here when you got that money.

Yo, move it right along, move it right along. Anywho, so Ryan Clark was fire. And I think, first of all, shout out to Ryan Clark. I love that brother, and I think he's an incredible— me too, probably one of them, one of the better dressed people on ESPN. Not that that matters, but I always love whoever does our Ryan Clark suits on TV, period.

And he got his own little emblem, the little RC emblem that he wears. He brought some style and some flavor and some fucking oomph up there. And he's smart, he's insightful, he's thoughtful, he's honest, um, he knows his shit. Um, he's experienced, he's got all the things, he checks all the boxes. He does.

Um, and it's crazy that they didn't just fire him, which— or lay him off, but they also laid him off in the middle of a show. Yeah, that's crazy. That's the crazy part. Yeah, that's horrible. On a break.

It's disrespectful. That was horrible. That was disgusting. They didn't even let him finish the show. And yet they took his— they took his comments, his content, his clips, and kept airing them all day on ESPN.

Wow. They said he voluntarily didn't finish, from what I heard. But I don't give a fuck if you allowed me to come to work today. Yeah, wait, what do you mean he voluntarily— they said they told him in the middle of one of the shows when he was taping. So then he didn't— he just involuntarily not finish.

But they sound like— did they give him the option? Like, hey, you can finish the show after this show is over. I didn't hear that, but either way, it's fucked up. Either way, I don't give a fuck. Whatever the case may be, yo, dog, if you fire me in the middle of my work day, it's disrespectful.

Fire me during Prize Picks, you know what I mean? You can stay the friend of the show. And it just— I meant to ask y'all, is that like— what is firing etiquette like typically in corporate? A lot of times in corporate they let you finish your work day. Yeah.

And then we'll call you to HR about— at the end of your work day, about 3. And when you go to HR, when you go this way, a nigga's coming this way. They going to pack you a cardboard box. They going to put all your shit from your desk and all your personal shit in that that box because they don't want you to come back to your company. I got that.

What I'm asking is, is if you were in corporate world, would you prefer a text, an email, a phone call, or come in and have your, your business partner tell you that face to face, or the company tell you face to face? It depends on my relationship with them. If I'm cool with them, then I would expect my face-to-face superior to call me. If I'm not cool with them, then I just treat it like we not cool. You could text me, you could email me, you can smoke cig with me.

I don't give a fuck if we not cool. Yeah, I would rather you— but don't fire me if we not cool. Let me stay home. Yeah, don't let me drive, cuz that happened to me before. I, I was working about 45 minutes away from the crib.

I got to the job, got in, walked in, they was like, oh, um, they want to see you in the office first. This was the security job? No, no, this was an insurance. I know, I know Marcus is asking questions. He tried to be I know you're trying to do it.

But, um, yeah, it was like, yo, you got— they want to see you in the office. Got in the office and they was like, you know what it was, or you just thought you was getting raised or some shit? I didn't know what it was. Oh, that's— I didn't know what it was. But, um, I was like, yo, word?

Like, I'm saying, y'all could have told me this at home because I'm mad. Yeah, y'all could have told me this at home. I said, well, let me go get my stuff. No, we got somebody that's gonna get your stuff. They'll meet you at the front door and walk out that way.

Back to your computer. Please leave your key card here. All of that shit. Yeah, they don't want you taking nothing. They got to surprise you to do it.

In TV, they usually don't give you a chance to have access to the audience again once they let you know. Oh yeah, because that's why I was surprised to hear— I'm a little— I'm not sure that they would have let him during the break go back on air. Because if you say to a nigga, especially somebody like Ryan Clark, who's articulate and thoughtful and smart and principled and courageous, if you say to him, look, we letting you go, uh, but you got 10 more minutes on air, I don't know what the fuck you're gonna say. You could spin that. You could spin that.

You could go on air and spin that and quit. Yeah, and it's live. And now to the, to the public, you quit. Like, yo, this is, this XYZ what's happening. You could spin that in your favor and say you should never say that you quit, cuz now you're not getting your money.

Yeah, which is the other piece of— that's true. And that's another piece of this, right? They still got to pay him out his contract. He's paying— yeah, he's getting paid out. So if they're paying you, so if this is about budget, you could let him ride out the contract.

Oh yeah. Which is often what happens, because if you're— and then they just don't renew it. They just don't renew it. Cuz there are jobs where I Obviously, we don't want to go to work if we're going to get paid anyway. But TV people want to stay on air.

They want to be seen, because that's the job. And that's how you get the next job. And that's how you— So it's not like— I mean, a lot of people are told their contract won't be renewed at the end of a season. And they keep going. So this feels like it's bigger than just money.

That's a good point. This feels like there's something about Ryan Clark that they're not fucking with. And what I don't like is that I'm starting to see all of them— Something about Michael Smith, something about Jemele Hill, something about Kerry Champion, something about— There's something. There's a few things about it. I'm noticing a pattern here.

And it's two things, right? And, and that's the thing. So when I, when I say versus the people that are getting the money, i.e., Pat and Stephen A, right? Exactly. Because that's the end of the list.

That's the end of the list. Pat McAfee literally makes more than everybody in the NBA except, except Steph Curry as of this new deal. And I think Pat McAfee's underpaid. Oh, he's extraordinary. I'm not taking nothing from him.

I think $60 million for him is, is a deal. It's a bargain. In fairness, it's him and his whole shit. It's not just— it's an infrastructure for 5 days a week, and it's the premier, yeah, show over there. It's our SportsCenter block.

You got to pay the man. Yeah, yeah, I ain't mad at that. But to your point, you could also— I think Ryan Clark was making $2 million there. Yeah, there's a report that said between $2 and $6, and they said Cam was closer to $2. Um, with the Pat McAfee thing, Pat McAfee drives inventory.

It's almost like he's in sales, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you in sales, yo, the sky's the limit to your earnings. Whereas other people that are like, um, just— they don't necessarily push the ad dollars and all that other shit. Yeah, you're not valued nowhere near as high, you know what I'm saying? And so to your Pat McAfee point, that nigga's out here 5 days a week pushing the shit out them numbers for ESPN.

ESPN, so that nigga's worth way more money than most of the other people. I agree. I don't want Pat McAfee to lose a dollar. Me, it's just talking about what their resources are and also the kind of people who they're willing to invest in. Sure.

Because there's the race thing, a whole bunch of Black folk getting fired, but some white folk getting fired too. Um, but it's also the kind of voices that they don't want to have on that network, the kind of voices that they always seem to silence and push out. And, and that's the thing I, I don't like. And I don't like the leaking of reasons. That's, that's the part that I don't like.

It's not what they did and how they did it, but to add insult to injury, their reasoning was we feared that, you know, if we didn't tell him while he was on air or while he was here, that it would leak. The news would leak and he would hear it from somewhere else, and we care so much about him that we didn't want him to hear, hear it from a leak. You're Disney, dog. You're Disney. No, not just that, it's bullshit.

If that's the case, then you called him the night prior to— if you're his boss, you call him. This is cell phone era. Yeah, my nigga, his supervisor or his direct, um, upline could have called him on the phone and gave him the news. You don't have to have him come into work so that it don't— you could tell him like that. This is, this is unpr— I mean, this is so out of bounds with what happens in media, you know.

You know, media jobs don't work this way. They just don't. And you're starting to see the, uh, insiders say, well, it was the way he talked to my man last year, Schrager. Yeah, when he said you didn't play, uh, you didn't play in the NFL. That's bullshit.

It's complete bullshit. But please, and what they do is they put it as a speculation, so that becomes the dominant narrative. So people think that's why he got— that ain't why he got fired. That happened a year ago. No, no, number one.

And number two, I don't know that that's complete bullshit, but I don't think that's all the reasons.

You don't know who— when you're in corporate, but you don't know who in the boys club and who ain't, right? And he was in the boys club, and they were trying to get him a show. That— and, and so I'm sure that didn't win him any friends in corporate. I'm not saying that, but I have it if you want to hear it. Yeah, wide receiver who got one target all night, and then you got CeeDee Lamb.

But that's the— when was the one— that's the target. But I'm saying, when was the one— I'm saying you could have it both ways. 4 seconds left in the game on second and 11, it was the one target. He runs the out— up this morning and said AJ Brown had a better day than Sidney Landry? You know what you wake up saying though?

AJ Brown's team is 1-0. Of course. Right, like, that's what I get. But the thing is this though, and, and we shouldn't do this on TV, and so I apologize if people think this is rude. That's the non-player.

Oh, stop. That's— no, let me tell you why. I'm not saying— I'm not looking at fantasy football, Ryan. I'm not. Don't Don't belittle me like that.

I could come in and say, as 3 ex-players are saying one thing, and give an alternative perspective that maybe CeeDee Lamb did play well in the— I ain't gonna hold you. In commentator land on that ESPN, uh, morning desk, that, that'd be a bit— that'd be a hot button issue anytime it come up. Yeah, non-player versus player. But it's kind of the third rail, like you're not supposed to do that. And Brian knows that because he started with— right.

Hey, this is gonna come off the wrong way, but shut the fuck up, right? You never played the game. Which I remember this morning because I remember that game. It was such a big game. CeeDee Lamb went off.

Yeah, CeeDee Lamb went off. AJ Brown, not so much. So the point that he was arguing was, hey, CeeDee Lamb went the fuck off in a loss, but boy, he looked good. I was agreeing. I never played football.

But Ryan Clark, my thing with this whole thing is, boy, thank God for independent Black media. Yeah, he's killing it. Like, I don't know. Yeah, he is. Corporate did what corporate does.

Who shocked? Yeah, right. Yeah, who's shocked? Who's shocked by that? Certainly no— some things will shock you.

This shouldn't be shocking. This shouldn't be shocking. He's on a tear, bro. I wouldn't have thought that. I would have thought he would have been an asset that they wanted to hold.

Oh man, if they can't control Hell no. Let me tell you something. I worked at Fox News 2 decades ago, and I remember when Glenn Beck was the biggest thing going. I mean, Glenn Beck was beating Bill O'Reilly. He was beating Sean Hannity.

I mean, he is— at 5 o'clock, he was cooking everybody, but they couldn't control him, and they got rid— and everybody was shocked, right? I was surprised too, because I— but then when you realize that their money is so big and their desire to control is so strong, they'll sacrifice sacrifice their number one earner or their number two earner for the bigger picture. And what they do, they got rid of Glenn Beck and they created a show called The Five that did basically exactly what they wanted them to do and got almost the same ratings. Same thing, Ryan Clark is a top-tier commentator to me. To me, if I'm building a network for sports, he's at the top of my list.

But they, they want niggas they can control, and they want people they can silence, and they want people who don't have a backbone. And so unfortunately definitely, um, he didn't make the list. But I'm not— I'm just not surprised having seen this so many times. Like you said, I'm glad he has his own platform. Thank God he has his own.

Thank God Cam has his own. Thank God that content creators are out there not relying on the fucking old infrastructure. Yeah, hell yeah. So we don't have to cry over these stories every time we hear. I got a question.

When do you see someone who is unfireable? Unfirable? I know everyone can be fired, but we're talking about bring a lot of ratings. No matter what line they cross, the execs will make an excuse and still just keep them because it's easier to keep them than to lose them. When do you see a situation— I'll say this, it's never a situation— nobody's unfirable, but there are people who have a lot more rope than everybody else.

I'll give you an example. That's what I mean. Yeah, and unfortunately, it also supports my point. Bill O'Reilly had get that at Fox News. You gotta catch a lot of cases, you know what I'm saying?

You gotta get in a lot of trouble before they get rid of your ass. But he— I mean, he was the quarterback of Fox News. 8 o'clock, they played this show at 8 o'clock, then they re-aired at 11, and at 11 o'clock re-air was still doing better than everybody else on cable news. Really? Yeah, and it was a rerun.

I mean, he was just a beast. He was making $30, $40 million, $50 million a year back when people weren't making $10 million a year. You can imagine how loose that rope was, right?

You talking about me, you bitch-ass nigga? You compare me to— No, I'm just asking what Mark said. You can't relate to that. I can't relate to it? No, I'm just listening.

On an unrelated note, yeah, Bill had a lot of cases. Hey, I put you in a lot of— Watch your mouth, nigga. I put you in a lot of shit, boy. It's okay, you love me, you love me, my nigga. I skipped a good joke when Ish was talking too, cuz I seen Mark tried to look at me.

Fuck you, nigga. He's trying to play point, man. Yo, Ryan Clark, I'm anxious to see what he does next. Yeah, me too. Yeah, I mean, The Pivot's an amazing show, so yeah, Brian Clark will be absolutely— yeah, he'll probably get another network job, FS1 or wherever, if he wants one.

If he wants one. I'd love to see what the Blacks that worked at ESPN group chat looks like right now. Oh, you know that shit lit. I wish, I wish I was still in the Black people media privately, cuz J. Will is my man.

Yo, I hope I hope nothing happens to J. Will because he's the only one I see that actually goes crazy up there that has not started his independent journey on the side to kind of run concurrent with— he's a Dookie though, they ain't gonna fire Dookie. No, he's said some things that's pro them. I like J. Will a lot.

Me too. Ryan Clark, we love you, we support you, you're a friend of the show. Joe, you know how I feel about you. I've done your podcast already. Niggas can't hold you down, man.

Y'all know Bart Scott? Yes. Yeah, what about him? Yeah, he got laid off as well. Yeah, I just seen Bart Scott in fucking Haven.

Yeah, now he'd be over here. I do want to say, you got to pay attention to them niggas that when they come, and this don't— it applies to Bart Scott, but I'm not talking about Bart Scott because he's Bart Scott. I always show love when I see him, but he one of them niggas that he's still in really good shape long after his playing career. You gotta watch them dudes. Yeah.

Why you still in such good shape, my G?

Nigga came in Haven fucking the size of the doorway. Big as hell. Anyway, I'm glazing. Shout out to Stephen A. Smith for tweeting support for Ryan Clark, because a lot of times that doesn't happen. When you get fired from a spot, the people that still work there don't say shit.

And oftentimes those influential and powerful people really don't say shit. But Stephen A actually tweeted and said, I understand layoffs, I understand business is business, but like, Ryan Clark, this is fucked up. He didn't say those exact words, but that was the sentiment. What do you think Stephen A is going to say on this show? Because I saw you retweeted, and that's a good tweet that he sent out.

What is he about to say of Impact? I'm just happy he did that, even honestly. I— and maybe, maybe my bar is in hell, maybe my bar is just super low, but I just remember even when I got fired from CNN. Nobody did it. I got all the private— oh, on text, shit was jumping.

Mad support. Then it was like, can y'all say something? Yeah, let's not do that. I want to be next. I'm saying something to you.

Exactly. Well, because Angela Rye was like, oh, we going in the office, we about to go, we about to have a sit— no, Angela was about it. She— yeah, I mean, she was like, we about to go in, in, uh, my man's— I can't think of his name right now— the head of CNN. We're gonna go in his office right now, all the black commentators. Haters and have a sit-in.

We're gonna talk, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then some other people— I don't want to say Van Jones's name and others because I don't want to, you know, implicate them— but they was like, no, let's, let's not do that. Let's not make the bosses mad, you know. Let's, let's talk about it off air. And so that's the more common response, you know what I'm saying?

So to see somebody even publicly say it, I think is a shot. I appreciate that. Again, my bar is low maybe, but I thought it was dope. No, you made a good point. You made a good point.

Even if that's the extent of what he does, it's nice that he did it. And I ain't gonna play with Steve like that. Steve, it's just tricky for me. Steve always reps for some of the black people at ESPN.

But is that like an oxymoron? Rep for the black people at ESPN? I get it. 'Cause what does that look like? And what does that, Shannon Sharpe, fucking, there's a list of black people.

I'm not going through the list again. Anyway, love you, Ryan Clark. Word, word. Anybody can fucking get fired from somewhere. The fans, yo, put him on the couch.

Uh, we got room. All right, so let's— facts. What is wrong with this man? What? So, so listen, in my fast food segment of this show, I'll be brief, I'll be brief.

I just wanted to highlight two 2 things that I saw going on, or that I see going on in the fast food— well, one thing I see going on in the fast food world, which is my girl is being very particular about the lettuce that I order now. Oh, you got— when I order lettuce, are you still eating? And she can— yes, I'm eating lettuce. That Taco Bell, I'm a man. The diarrhea runs.

Is that man? Well, and that's what I'm here to talk about. I was watching the news, they said all of the Taco Bell letters has E. coli. All of the letters got E. coli. The bulk of it came from Taco Bell, the news said.

But have no fear, because even though that happened the other day, Taco Bell has removed all of the E. coli letters. Sure, from all Taco Bell. And it's important to say, because Taco Bell is absolutely killing in the fast food world. I love some Taco Bell. They're crushing, they're crushing more than I fucking imagine.

You still eat Taco Bell? I don't eat Taco Bell. Hell no. Oh, you eat that? Yes, I do too.

I eat some bullshit. I'm not eating Taco Bell though. Chick-fil-A is crème de la crème in the, in the fast food world. They're killing everybody. Everybody's dead.

Um, what am I saying? Oh, back to Taco Bell. So Taco Bell says they got rid of all the E. coli letters, and I only wanted to bring it up to tell y'all that Taco Bell is absolutely lying to y'all, for sure. And there's no way they got rid of all of the E. coli lettuce. So go and buy that shit at your own risk.

I'm sure they will get rid of it eventually, but they didn't do it yet. It's much bigger than Taco Bell though. Taco Bell give you the runs anyway. It's a company that provides a lot of lettuce called Telefarms, and they're the ones— the shit is called, uh, Cyclospora or some shit. That's the shit that's making everybody get the explosive diarrhea.

Like, explosive? That's literally— it's explosive diarrhea. Sound like a regular Saturday for me. Like, it fucked me up because when I remember I walked in the, um, I was in, uh, Acme and the whole produce, they cleaned the whole shit off. I thought the store was closing because I know you said Acme was closing.

I'm like, oh shit, this one too? But they was like, nah, we getting rid of all the produce. We don't know if some, some type of cross-contamination. They cleared that whole shit out. But, um, yeah, it's, it's not just Taco Bell, it's, it's much bigger.

And then they, then that company Taylor Farms came came out and said some shit like, hey, uh, we cleaned up all our lettuce, and then some shit tested positive like a day or so later. Uh, that was a false test. We're clear. I'm telling you, we clear. We put some water on it.

That's why I'm not— I'm just not fucking with no lettuce right now. Yeah, no. Yeah, I don't need— yo, give Taco Bell a couple of weeks and let them go mop. Let them, let them clean up the establishment before you go rushing back in there. That's number 1.

Number 2, in a happier story, I just wanted to shout out McDonald's VIP. Huh? I wanted to shout out McDonald's Premium. On the way back from motherfucking my Lil' Alpine trip, my baby said, "Hey, do me a favor. Stop at McDonald's.

Let me pick up some french fries." I said, "Hey baby, that's a good idea." I pull up. I wasn't just gonna get french fries. I ordered a double Quarter Pounder meal, all the man shit, and she ordered some shit, pull up. It was a late night, it was like 11:30. Oh, we pull up, we was getting the food, we paid, and we had the honor, the privilege of them looking at us and saying, hey, do me a favor, pull your car right there to the side.

They always do that, you bitch-ass nigga. Pull the number 1 or 2 and we come out and bring Thought you was at Sonic. Let me tell you something.

When the McDonald's worker— yo, shut up! I'll slap you! Tell you to pull your car right there to the side. That's what it means. Hey, get comfy, you're gonna be there.

They're about to be the best, hottest french fries that you ever had. The burger gonna be fresh off of a frying pan. Yo, you know, are you kidding me? Chris, what? Fresh.

Fresh shit. You can just say cook to order anytime you order anything. They love that. They treat your fries real special. I did not know that.

I didn't know that. Yes. Ask him. I used to work at McDonald's, and I'm telling you, when they told us somebody asked for a special batch— I got a special batch. They got a special batch.

When you worked at McDonald's? The '70s.

Burgers was still 25 cents. I worked at McDonald's In the '90s, man. City Line Avenue. I worked at McDonald's and Little Caesars. Yeah, I worked at McDonald's too.

Yeah, it was a good job. How did you explain that to your mom? Because like, it wasn't no McDonald's. Like, that was like telling her you want to be a rapper. Stop it, yo.

What, no McDonald's in 1908? And she was upset. Boy, you better not go to— you better make something of yourself, boy. I'm talking shit. And he did, he did, he did.

And she went to McDonald's. Well, yeah, he worked at McDonald's, nigga. Did you work in the kitchen or the— that was going to be my question. '91, '92. Kitchen or register?

Where'd you work? What part of the— what part of the— or maintenance? The whole store? The whole— you worked at the whole store? Did all that shit.

Let's go, X! Give me pal, please. Free! Give me pal! Free!

I'm with you! Please.

What was your favorite?

You worked in maintenance, you worked at the register, and you worked in the kitchen. Which was the one that was lit? Or the drive-through? The drive-through was the one. Yeah, I used to love the drive-through.

Was insane. If it's up to me, they wouldn't ask you anything, like, just so we clear. Like, but they somehow do it. He was You know what, you know what a said? I did everything.

No, you didn't. No, you did not. They not going to let you mop and flip a burger. Yo, you mop and flip burgers? Yeah, that's not true.

They didn't let me work. You just lying, trying to fit in again. No, when I was a checker, they— everybody— yeah, no, when you work at McDonald's, for the most part, they let you— you do everything. You do everything. You ain't special.

I mean, I, I didn't do the grill a lot because you have to work your way up to it, or was it like one day you this, one day you that? It depends on where they put you at. A lot of times they start you on the grill and then like the register is like— what year was it? Did y'all work there? I worked there in '93.

I worked there in '91 and '92. You was there for 2 years? I was there for a while. Oh, manager? You became a manager?

I was fucking 15 years old. Oh, nigga, I thought you was 40. Team leader.

Fire. I know you got questions, I see them.

I'm done, I don't— Joe, did you ever work fast food? No, I had talent.

What the fuck are you talking about? You know how many rappers— I was— you got more than one hit, work the fast food? No, I don't. No, I don't. To get one hit, you know what you need?

Talent. The fuck? Yeah, good times. But yeah, the special batch of fries though. Dirty games, and I want no parts.

I was like, do something with yourself, go to McDonald's. Yeah, I never had no time. You was in the streets early. I just didn't work. I worked in real restaurants.

I've worked. Oh shit, I've worked. I never did that. I worked for a day at KB Toys and got fired the same day. Stealing?

Arguing? No, no, just being disrespectful. And, uh, Roosevelt Fields. And that's it. Then I tried to get another job at this cleanup shit somewhere in Queens, was rude to the lady.

I said, hold on, hold on, let me— I forgot what I said. She said, don't talk to me like that. I said, man, get the fuck out of here. Had my wife pick me up. I was done.

Can I play something real quick? For sure. After this, we're going to talk about Mandy. How old were you? Right, what, when I— I forgot you got married real young.

He think I had my wife together the second— we got to remember that every part. No, hold on, uh, because I was— I became broke at one point, nigga. I was going through my own little phase, so I tried to get a job my way. I had kids at the time, nigga. I tried to go clean up, nigga.

And then what's the joke? Put me on, nigga, so I can know. I can respond. No, there's no joke, bitch-ass niggas. There's no joke.

You niggas is all bitches. You get ran by your women. Y'all all get ran by your— not me, nigga. Come pick me up from this bullshit-ass job to clean the fucking floor, nigga. Y'all can never talk to me, nigga.

You get ran by your woman too. No, you really do. We won't see Selena Powell head by your fucking— I know one thing we won't see. In the sake of content, nigga. In the sake of content, you will, nigga.

You see what somebody did. Let's talk about it, nigga. Let's see it. I run this shit. Post it right now.

Post it right now. Post it right now. Big Lickhead. Don't call her because she not with none of that shit. It's y'all that's causing the danger in my home.

I slap y'all niggas. Danger. I'm sorry that we do that, Flip. I'm sorry. Thank you.

It's okay, it's okay. I know you've been talking about it a lot more though. I like that you mention your relationship more, talking about your lady more. Well, because yeah, niggas, you bitch ass niggas come up to the podcast and highlight everything. Hey yo, Flip, milfy.

How does she take it? You do mad stupid shit. I don't know what you're talking about. It sat him down the other day. Oh, I watched that.

Oh, you did? Yeah, it did not sit me down. He sat you the fuck down. He gave you some OG advice? He definitely sat you down.

He sat you the fuck down. Oh, did you see the consensus? He said buy her outfit. Did you— all that was funny. All that was funny, yes.

But did you see what your— did you see what your— he got to hype his man because he checked him, so he got to suck up to him. Did you see the consensus of what your audience said? Did you see what they said? Yo, Flip should have bent that. They was cursing Ish out.

And did Flip entertain it? No, I don't use my man as no piece, nigga. That's my man, for real, nigga. I don't use my man as no content piece, you bitch-ass nigga. That's a nice little reverse.

You just did. It was Clyde Drexler. Laugh at each other. Yeah, I know, be cool. Don't be cool in front of me, bro.

I'm your man. So the stay low— give me— is your car so clean? Cuz of Milfy. But I let you rock. Oh, see what I'm saying?

I let you go, but I ain't want— you know what I'm saying? Stop, bro. I be chilling. I don't want no problem. You see what he just said?

I don't want no You gonna let him say that? I didn't hear what he said. Oh, now, because he finally spoke, right? He finally spoke. Oh, help me.

Yeah, nigga, use me as a ploy to speak to get paid, nigga. And what you saying now? Ain't that what you do to me every week? Never, never, nigga. All right, never.

They get the best in the business, nigga. You hear me? Don't— I go against all you niggas right now, nigga, for death.

Sit up on the couch. Yo, that shit give me every time. Shut up. Shut up. You got to say something to that joke.

So in, in my Stay Low and Keep Firing award that I'm giving out, it is going to go to none other than Big Tigger. Uh, I was getting a haircut this morning, I saw Big Tigger's face pop up on my timeline. I was like, oh shit, that is brave to pop out in the midst of such controversy while you going through this this with old girl. But you know what, finally he's gonna speak out and tell us what he thinks, right? Tell us where the missing kid is.

And, and I had— and I have the clip. And I gotta say, this nigga's ability to just pop up during absolute turmoil and do an ad, it's so top tier. I'm playing the ad. Like, let's check this out. What's happening?

It's your man Big Ticket doing Big things. Nigga, no. What the fuck is this nigga talking? What? You know we love Big Ticket.

That's my man. I'm playing again. Come on, let me put it back. He out there doing it. Hey, what's going on, y'all?

No, nigga, where is that girl? Where's the door at? That ain't— I'm gonna ease my way back into the shit. Tell us how you got the phone. What phone did he get?

Phone purchased. Don't pop up. That's a crime. Take it from me, you can't just pop up with art. Hey, what's happening?

It's your man Big Ticket doing big things. And take it from me, life doesn't always give you a warning before things change. See, I thought he about to get in bed. Having someone to call can make all the difference in the world. Do yourself a favor, save this number: 1-800-CHUCK-WATTS.

1-800-878-9595. 9-7. You actually hope you never have to use, but you'll be happy that you have it when you need it. At the heart of everything they do is all about people, and that's what this nigga crazy as fuck truck wreck lives by. And the best way for you to understand that is to speak directly to someone that they call— here's one of their clients.

Driving on the expressway. Shut your ass up, bitch ass nigga. My life is a truck wreck. That's a pro right there. Oh my God, Big Ticket, we love you, but wow, what the hell was that?

I ain't going to hold you. Okay, so now we tossing it to Ish. Uh, let's hear what our— let's hear what our girl Mandy had to say about marriage. Go, Mandy. Protect everything that you have.

If you're a woman that is focus on making more, having your own career, bringing your own money. Absolutely. I think— okay, so this is gonna be my hot take, and no shade to either. We're only 3 minutes in. I know.

I think marriage is for broke bitches. Oh, and so I think a woman who wants to be married is leaning more into the patriarchy and wants to be essentially— I'm sorry, possibly taken care of, have their man as the leader. All the ideals for me of what marriage looks like is that. So I just saw my friends recently this weekend. She was like, did you want to be married?

And I literally said, yeah, when I was poor. As a woman who can now like provide for herself, also doesn't want motherhood, and also sees a lot of these celebrity women now having to continue working because they have to pay alimony. I mean, we have even podcasters now paying alimony. Shout out to Rachel Lindsay. Like, there's all these people that once you make a certain amount of money, if, if your man doesn't, you have to pay them out.

And I don't want to be that. That's a take. I don't want to be that. But you also serve— That's crazy. She did that sitting next to Wheezy.

Shout out to her, just recently got engaged.

Um, I think she had some points in there, but I think she— the hot takeaway, I think it's starting to really be an overwhelming sentiment, if people want to admit it or not. I think a lot of people that are getting up the ladder financially are not looking at marriage in the same way anymore. And I hear every day from men and women that are starting to make more bread, they'd be like, yo, it's, it's not needed for me. I don't even see the advantage in being married. Um, I know Mandy personally— Mandy stands on the hill of, I don't really want children.

So if you don't want children, then you take away the whole family dynamic from marriage. You get what I'm saying? True. If, if it's not in your plans to have children, there's still a family involved. I'm not— I said it takes away from the family dynamic because the kids make up a part of that dynamic.

So you could literally be dating somebody for 10, 20 years and be married to them for 10 or 20 years, then that's your family. Yeah, and they could be your family if you're dating or married. Like, it ain't no real big difference. So the marriage piece don't, don't change. That would be the same thing.

But the same shit go with kids then. I think that, I think the kids add to the family dynamic. You could have— you could be with someone, have kids, y'all, and, and still be a family. I know. So I'm, I'm— again, bro, I'm not We did this like I'm talking about this particular person.

She don't want any kids. She is in her car, she's saying, I don't want kids at all. And so for her, again, she could date the same person or date multiple people without being boggled down by marriage and what— and all of the restrictions that marriage presents. Because marriage does present some restrictions for you. I can't do whatever I want to do if I'm married without consulting with my significant other.

What do you mean, whatever you want? Is that different? Like, what I'm saying, what, what's the difference between that? You study, you believe in studies, and, and, uh, and, and like, you, you— what I'm saying is that there is a study that married men are more, um, successful. That makes sense.

Yeah, because some of those restrictions, the distractions that you have when you're single, some of those distractions aren't present when you're in a relationship. That is people. Yeah, like, again, you can't just— well, you're an exception.

Most married people, they just can't run around and do whatever they want to do. Of course. Sorry, sorry. No, please, please. You, me, like, oh, I mean, I'm not married, but that's my point.

Like, it seems like you got those same restrictions without marriage. That's what I was trying to— and the same commitment, the same family dynamic. That You do. Yeah, that's true. Um, what it sound like is just people know that today a lot of marriages end in divorce and you got to pay, and you got to pay.

So if you up— I mean, yeah, there's prenups and all of that, but again, just the whole— the process— people just looking at it as a lot of marriages don't stand the test of time today, and if I'm up, it's going to cost me too much to get out of this, so I'd rather not do it. You know what, that's what it sound like she's saying. I'm not shooting that, Mandy. Your man— a lot of wealthy men are— yeah, people just— people that are saying it like, yo, it's just not cost effective. I'm not shooting at Mandy.

No, this— let's remove her. I don't like when people come on podcasts or speak about marriages because they had a lot of failed relationships. Not Mandy, let me move— but somebody else said that similar. No, and Mandy. Okay, yeah, but I don't want to go back and forth with her to make it seem that I'm attacking her.

The shit ain't work. You don't go— if you go from wanting to be married and don't get married, or it doesn't work out, and you keep trying and trying and trying again. Sometimes we have to look internally. I'm not saying anything, but just anybody in general now, you know what I mean? And when they come and say, yo, marriage for broke people and shit like this, some rich people get married every day.

I mean, there's some rich women that look for marriages every fucking day. There's some CEO women, Fortune 500 companies, that wish that they were married in that moment. That's say how lonely they are by just being this, and they can't find the man to match them, and they want to be married. So it's not for broke women. Yeah, I mean, all right, so I would say two things, or a couple things.

One, historically, marriage, I mean, has been about men taking care of women. It has been patriarchal. You literally go from your dad to your husband, and they hand— they literally hand you over, walking down the aisle. That's true. You know what I mean?

I'm paying your father for you. Literally a dowry, right? So that is historically what it's rooted in, and I don't want I don't want to ignore that. That is very true. Got it.

Um, I heard she said that. Yes. But I also don't want to reduce marriage to just broke women trying to get on, or broke women who need it. I, I respect her desire not to be married. And I know a lot of people who say, if I don't want kids— I know a lot of married men will say that.

If they say, if I didn't have— it's not for my kids, I could have done without marriage. And if not for— and if I were to ever— if something were to happen to my wife, I probably wouldn't remarry. I'd be in a long-term relationship, but I wouldn't remarry. I hear people say that all the time, and I respect I agree with that. Um, but for me, I think we have to also separate marriage as a bond and as an institution, and marriage is a legal thing with the state.

So like, when you make a commitment to be with somebody forever as your life partner— like, Joe, you just celebrated your 7th, and congratulations, I meant to tell you at the top of the show, congratulations. Thank you. On your 7th anniversary. Congratulations, bro. If you got married tomorrow, that wouldn't make your love any more or less deep, intense.

It wouldn't make your relationship any, any more more or less legitimate, you know. So to that extent, um, like, I don't think you're on year one if you get married tomorrow, you know what I'm saying. Like, the relationship is what it is. I feel the same way about my wife. Um, so I don't want to like fetishize marriage and make a thing out of marriage, but I do think when you make a commitment, a life commitment to somebody, it's more than just financial protection, it's more than just taking care of it.

It's saying me and this person are going to spend our lives together and we're going to affirm that relationship in the presence of our community. The world— we want the world to know that. And what my wife my wife has said to me, uh, which I hadn't thought about, is she says when she wears that ring, it's not about— she don't care about the ring per se, I mean, or marriage per se as a contract, but she said it's also a way of saying somebody in this world cares about me, someone in this world is looking out for me. And as a woman in the world, sometimes you got to think about that too. There's somebody other than me and my parents who, who, who— it's a good point, you know.

And that's something I hadn't thought about before. I got a homegirl who used to travel solo, solo trips. Yeah. And she would wear a ring. She was so single and was— and I'm like, why would you do that?

She was because at least over there they'll think somebody might have a husband who's not here with me in the room. Like, it just— that you think there's somebody that cares, like you said. Yeah. And I'm just saying, these are all factors I think that are bigger than just money, is all I'm saying. And I think there's a lot of rich women who, who want that relationship, or people who can take— my wife could take care of herself financially.

Um, she's better now, but like, she was doing just fine without me. I think too, nigga, Miles was taking care of me at one point. Yeah, it's— so I don't know, I just think it's complicated, but I hear what she said. Yeah, I think, I think everybody has their own individual views. Um, she can— and to Mark's point too though, like, um, like I said, like, I think that, uh, the, the marriage— I mean, the family dynamic can be had with or without the, the ring or the church or the justice of the peace.

It's the same thing if you on a 15-year relationship with somebody, that commitment that y'all quote unquote have, it's the same commitment. Mhm. You get what I'm saying? So I see it just from everybody's perspective. I think everybody, um, has a right to, you know, stand on what their square is.

How is it the same commitment? If I sit in a car with you and say, yo, I'm committed to this relationship, these are our ground rules, these are our— huh? Which— no, go ahead. These are our ground rules, right? Whatever our— we outline where we want to be in this relationship.

The dos, the don'ts, the yes, the nos, whatever the case may be. There's no difference when we walk to the justice of the peace and say, yo, I do, in front of this. Oh, that's not true. Oh yeah, I disagree. That's not true at all.

What happens when you die? Let me finish my sentence, please. Because now, because now it's legality and contracts in it. We talking about the commitment that you're making to a person, not what happens when you die. Because what happens when you die, now that's all legality and paperwork.

I'm talking about the commitment that you set forth with the person. Whether I tell you this in closed doors in confidence, or if I say this in front of some stranger, man, that gives us a piece of paper. And what— and so your wife— legality and the paperwork is— I'm looking at as part of the commitment. But you can do that without being married to somebody too. So you can have a will and say, if something happens to me, XYZ goes to this person, without going to the justice of the peace or having a marriage certificate.

You can still cover those things. You can also rent a house from somebody for eternity say I'm never leaving. And I think it's a little different if you own the house and have a little more stake in the game. I see. I think the house can be owned or rented in both scenarios.

Like, for example, I could put myself out, dog. When my will is done, my girl— we're not married, but my girl will get every single thing that I have, and it'll be allocated according to the, the will. When you, when you are married, now the state assigns how your assets are broken up if you don't have a will. So that's the only difference. Now the state says, yo, your shit goes here, here, here, and here based on the laws of the state of New Jersey or New York, wherever you reside.

This is what happens. The marriage don't dictate that. You and the lady didn't dictate that. The state dictates that. Okay, so, so that has nothing to do with a commitment that's being made by the two individuals.

I agree. That's one. I couldn't disagree. Yeah, that's one. If you on your deathbed, your girlfriend is not the one responsible for making decisions for you.

Can— no, no, it can't. But you can assign that too though. Yes, that's what I'm saying. You could sit there, if you, if you're getting sick enough, you can assign power of attorney to somebody. Check this out, Ice and Ish, this is what I'm saying.

If you are, if you are properly planned to the point way past death, you could set up everything. Correct. Let me give you an example. So it's not what I'm saying here. Most people are not.

Of course. Cool. But somebody— so you and your long-term girlfriend, when you get sick, if you don't have all this premeditated shit going on, right, she will have no rights while you're on your deathbed. To that, you say what? That, that's correct.

You are correct with that. Now also, to the— I'm also applying that to the will situation. Wait, wait, give Second, also to the non-planned person that goes and gets married, what happens when they, when they break out, when they break up? Exactly. To the person that did not plan, the non-planning goes both on both sides, married or unmarried.

To the non-planned person that gets married and then they get a divorce, what happens? Not a divorce. Let's say they just break— let's say they, let's just say they separate. So we've seen people that— I don't want to use nobody because words have power. Of course, two people are married, they split up.

They've been split up for 6, 7, 8 years, right? That man now has a girlfriend or kids or whatever the case may be. That person— and this is a true story and this happens a lot— the, the, the, the, the ex-wife, they still linked. She controls every single thing in this man's life, fam. I told y'all, when my uncle passed, rest in peace, who was still married, his wife could have taken everything.

Luckily, she was just a good person, and they were separated for at least— but that just goes back 6, 7 years. So that's my point. The planning on both sides. The marriage don't have nothing to do with that. Whether you're married or not, you still got a plan.

If you don't plan, you're, you're subject to the state no matter what. Okay, fair. Yeah. So, so why— I don't see how that marriage change the commitment is what is what we're saying. We started with commitment.

It has nothing to do with post-death what happens. And again, those things that That's one specific example. I'm just addressing what he said. Those things that happen post-death aren't dictated by the two people, they're dictated by— unless there's a will. That's the only way that, that it's dictated by the person, whether you're married or unmarried.

This— if you're married, the state dictates it, the person don't. Do y'all believe in marriage? Yeah. Yeah, in an unconventional way. I believe in a conventional way.

I just think it's a personal decision. I don't think that somebody is right or wrong if they get married or not. I think that's for those two individuals to decide. I couldn't, I couldn't agree more. But then there's a better way to state why you're against being married than to offend the people that are married and to say, hey, this is all broke people.

I agree with that. I agree. But like I said, what I think she was trying to say was to speak to— back to my original, um, point on that— I think she was trying to speak to the divorce divorce rate. So yes, if you're up and you get married, it's going to cost you if y'all don't work out. If you're looking at marriage as divorce already, you're probably in a bad position.

Fam, I buy a car and put insurance on it. I don't plan to have an accident. And also, it's ignoring a lot of the financial benefits of being married— tax, uh, benefits, insurance. It might not be— it's a bunch of shit. It might cost you money, but again, it might not be ignoring it, could weigh that on one side, and also keeping in mind what happens if this don't work.

If you go into anything saying what happens, you know, you sign a business contract, there's, there's shit in there in case this don't work out. That's true. Everything you do in life, you should be also preparing for what happens if it don't work out. Sure. So the same thing should apply to marriage.

So to the person that don't want to get married because they say, yo, I'm up if this don't work out, this could cost me a lot of money just for not working out when I could just be an Oprah instead, man. I could just be with somebody and not have to worry about that shit. See, that part is a crock of shit. Why? And I prefer that the people that just ain't with marriage just come out and say, yo, I'm not with marriage, and you don't give no reason.

Because what if, what if you fall in love or want to marry somebody where you're the person that has less money? Well, that's why she's saying— again, a lot of people there are speaking from the I have the money. So now I'm thinking about what happens. I'm trying to protect myself. Her view might change.

Her view might be different if she— it might be different. Yeah, which is why she then says— again, her wording, I think, just, it was a little offensive by saying for broke chicks. I agree. Or poor chick. I forgot which one she said.

Broke. Broke. But that is kind of what she's speaking to. I just know we hear from too many chicks that ain't been marriable, marriageable, talking about their views on fucking marriage. Mandy do a podcast, or did a podcast called Horrible Decisions.

She go out there, she tell you— yeah, horrible, not horrible, spelled with a W-H-O. Yeah, W-H-O, you know what I'm saying? She, she'll tell you about her fucking sexcapades, she'll tell you about— she'll tell you about her life. It's kind of all, yeah, out there. Mhm.

When is the fucking— don't make me say it— when a nigga was married at— when is the marriable part and that. Where is the, the portion of your life where you were living in a way to where that would be an option? Like, even in this, when I hear her talk— because people got different lives. I'm not saying a nigga's wife— and, and I know I probably am more privy because that's my friend, to information that everybody up here don't have. Mandy has been in relationships, long-term relationships, so I don't want I'm not trying to say that she's not wifeable based on the content of her show because I didn't say that, by the way.

No, no, I'm just saying, what is that? Okay, if you've been in long-term relationships, what does it say when you make a statement like that? That I don't want to be married. Based off of what? Because I'm up.

Yeah, she said it based off the experience. Okay, no, that's what she said. Oh, okay. I don't want to be married because I'm— Yo, Cam Newton has said this. A lot of people have said these things that are rich.

They say, yo, dog, I don't want to be married. When you do the cost-risk analysis, the risks are not something that I'm willing to take on. Which is very different from saying what she said. True. Joe, I'm not disagreeing.

I think that's bad what she said. I'm not defending Mandy. I'm talking about objectively. There's no right or wrong, right? Everybody do what the fuck they want to do.

So this is not like your babe. Why sign a prenup? Right. Why sign? Yeah.

A bunch of reasons. What? What? Because you said, yo, if you thinking like this that we gonna break up, then there's no reason for you to get married. So if you thinking like this and we gonna I'm going to be the guest forever, then why would I sign a prenup?

A prenup is a protection or an insurance, the same thing that I said. Yep. So, if you're going into this arrangement signing a prenup, that means you have taken in mentally that this could possibly not work, right? God willing, it works, but it could possibly not work. And in the event that it don't work, I want to protect myself as much as possible.

That is the whole thing about a prenup. Prenups. That's not the only thing about it. I'm not saying that's the main thing about a prenup. If this don't work, these are the protections that I'm putting in place in the, in the event that this don't work.

I'm having prenup conversations with mine not because I want to be okay in the event that this don't work out. I'm having those conversations because I want to make sure you okay. But you can make sure she's okay without a prenup. Yeah, exactly.

Tell me how. You can put money in account today that only Sade has access to. Put it in trust tomorrow, and you don't need no prenup. Whatever the prenup agreement is decided on, yo, if I— if the prenup says, yo, you get $5 million, $10 million, $3 million, whatever the case may be, because in my heart of hearts know that I want you taken care of in the event we break up, you could do that today without a prenup. How would you do that?

Just by putting money in the account? You can put money in a trust. You can have— these trusts are so— and these wordings and these wills and all this shit, when I say, my nigga, they could be detailed to the the tea. They could— yo, I want you to have black nail polish the whole entire time or you forfeit the money. You leaving a lot.

You leaving it when you say being vague. I'm just giving you an example of— you ask me how it can be done, I'm giving you an example of how it could be done with no prenup. But that example is not realistic because that example is void of the human emotion part of marriages that go through some shit. And again, I've never been married, so I want to watch my words on this. But okay, cool, I want you to be fine after break up.

I'm fine right now, you fine, and we married. Put money in your account, put money in your account, put money in your account. Now emergency happened, something go wrong, we looking at each other differently. That, in your example, that guy continues to do that so that she's okay. Yeah, that's not realistic to me.

But you can have it worded to where I don't give a fuck what your emotions get to, this stands, this happens, this is concrete. Lawyers can put whatever you want in there. Y'all are saying what I'm I'm saying the prenup is not just for the protection. No, we're not talking about the prenup. You can do that.

No, we're not talking about a prenup. We're not talking about a prenup. I'm talking about you— me and you today could go start a show and we say, yo, dog, regardless of what happens with this show, when we walk away from the show, I'm Joe Button, I'm the alpha on this show, Ish is the beta on this show. I want Ish to now have XYZ because of sacrifices he committed to this show, and I don't give a fuck what happens, it can't be touched. You can do that with any contract.

Contracts are binding for a reason. You could do the same exact thing regardless of what your emotional sways are. You know, a prenup is just a contract. I know. So y'all are saying have a contract, just not a prenup?

No, we're not saying that, Joe. That's nowhere near what we're saying. Park said that if you go into a marriage thinking that it could possibly fail, you shouldn't be married. No, that's not what I'm saying. That's what you said.

That's what you said. Well, speaking of marriages and prenups, uh, Malcolm Jamal Warner, uh, has an interesting situation, uh, going on right now. And posthumously, get that shit off in there. That bromance talking, niggas is crazy. What you mean, let her get it off?

We didn't get it all. We said we disagree with her wording. I disagree with her wording. I got it on my pajama pockets. Fuck house, I'm gonna do it.

You were saying, Michael Jamal Warner is having a really interesting situation right now. Speaking of prenups, and of course this is posthumously, we lost Malcolm Jamal Warner last year, a year ago, uh, rest in peace to him and his memory. Um, his widow is suing the estate. The reason is there's a family trust managed by Malcolm Jamal Warner's mother, uh, that's where the money is, that's what's managing everything. The widow, Malcolm Jamal's wife was saying— is saying, look, we had a prenup and he never lived up to the terms of the prenup.

And because he never lived up to the terms of the prenup, uh, I need— I need money from the estate. What— what terms did he— one of them was, uh, the big one was the insurance policy. He never had, uh, an insurance policy. I'm pulling up the rest. Uh, he, uh, never had an insurance policy.

Policy with her as a sole recipient or beneficiary of at least $1 million. Okay. Which sort of makes it— in the prenup that he was supposed to carry a life insurance policy, her sole beneficiary, $1 mil? Yep, $1 million life insurance policy naming her a sole beneficiary and a reciprocal policy on her life. Got it.

To pay her $5,000 a month as his chief of staff. Okay. And to give her $16,000 a year on their anniversary. Okay. And also to fund a tax-free retirement account for her and paying college funds for their children.

Okay. So those were the things he was obligated to do. Mm-hmm. So I'm watching people on the internet respond to this in a lot of different ways. Some people think it's in poor taste to sue the estate.

Mm-hmm. You know, they make it seem like it's a money grab. I'm like, well, if they had these prenuptial conditions, it was for her financial security. And part of why we establish prenups is, is for financial security. You know, $5,000 a month, $16,000 a year on their anniversary.

I didn't even know people did that in prenups. I'm not saying it's wrong, but $16,000 a year on their anniversaries, funding the retirement account for children, college funds, all that stuff makes sense, right? Um, and the life insurance policy, I think it's just a responsible thing to do for anybody. Malcolm was making $680,000 a year reportedly at the time of his, uh, death. And so just to give you— I'm just adding that because that's been reported, but also I think that gives some context for what he may have been able to, to pay, and also what their lifestyle was.

So I think that's just— let me, let me ask a question. Um, all right, I agree to these things, prenup, we get married, times change, you know what I mean? Can— I'm not married, I don't know— can you amend any of this shit? Can y'all go back and— look, we need to, we need to change some of this because now I can't do, uh, $16,000 on it, whatever the case case may be. Can y'all go and fix any of that up?

You can if both people agree to it. Okay, you can. Here's where it gets tricky, and this is the— no one expects to die, of course. Exactly it. Of course.

So yo, I, I might have agreed to maintaining a $1 million life insurance policy when we signed this, right? You hit rocky roads, you going to bounce back because you are who you are, and I'm riding. You might have borrowed the money from your insurance policy, you might have canceled it, you might have did a bunch of shit thinking that I got time to go back and replenish this, right? And he died again in a freak swimming accident, right? Uh, uh, he wasn't sick or anything of the sort.

It just haphazardly happened. So to my point before, he could have— when I was telling Joe— he could have put a million dollars in an account, right? An interest-bearing account that he can't touch, right? You can legally do that. He could have put some shit in away or whatever the case may be, or way in the— in, in, in the— if unforeseen shit would happen, she's taken care of.

They have an 8-year-old, right? So I'm not mad at her. They have an 8-year-old, and my 8-year-old is accustomed to this standard of living. So if these things you promised me and we have documented on paper are what I should get in the event of your demise, I don't think it's wrong. And you said, um, it was reciprocal.

So in the event of her demise, right, they would— he would would have gotten $1 million to take care of their child, etc., etc., etc. It's an 8-year-old involved here. It's not like their kids are 25, 26, 27 years old. I don't know what the young lady did for a living, but I don't look at that like she's in the dead wrong, especially if the estate and the trust has enough money to give her this million dollars. That was my question.

I'm about to say, what if he was making this amount? What's, what's, what's left? Like, how much is it? How much is it? He gets his royalties and all of that Exactly.

Okay, here's the thing, he may have had other insurance policies. Yes, it could have. You know, his mom might have this one set up that way. Yeah, I'm not mad at her because he has a net worth of $3.4 million. And when these trusts get set up, a lot of times the trust is the beneficiary of the, um, insurance policy.

Like, that's something that the wealthy people do. Like, uh, they set it up to where the individual— Parks is not the beneficiary beneficiary, the blah blah blah blah blah trust is, uh, you know what I'm saying? And so the trust will get the bread and then allocate it accordingly. Yeah, interesting. That's the Rockefeller shit.

I, I just hate— and I don't, I don't know their situation. I don't know who's right and who's wrong in this. Um, I just want everybody to be okay, but it's just— is there a right and wrong?

I don't really— I don't know. Let me say this, it's being presented by the media in way that's making it seem like there's a battle between the mom and her. And I don't know what the other side of that argument is. I don't know what's true. I don't know what's in the prenup.

I didn't see, you know what I'm saying? There's a lot of things. But if everything on face value— I'm not mad at all. Yeah, if everything that you said is true, that, that's the only avenue I got. Exactly.

I gotta do this. Exactly. And I'm sure her first move wasn't to contact the lawyer. You probably talked to the family and they, yo, we ain't got this. Or, or it could have just been a shock, right?

You know, wait, what do you mean there's no life insurance policy, right? What do you mean? Is that— wait, wait, what happened? Yeah, okay, so what do I do, right? Well, the only option is you're gonna have to sue the estate.

His wife was his assistant and his chief of staff during their marriage, right? And that's what he wanted to— and that's why she wanted that monthly salary, okay, the $5,000 a month for monthly salary, etc., etc. So if she hasn't worked in some time. What, what am I supposed to do? She's a doctor of psychology.

Additionally, she's an unemployed graduate student pursuing a doctorate in clinical psychology. She got it. And the co-founder of the Warner Family Trust and River and Ember. Yeah. So again, I don't know based on her doctorate what money she has coming in, but if she's been working for him for some period of time, she may or may not have just this nest egg of money sitting around.

I just don't get the other side of it. Like, like, what do people say she's supposed to do? I think the other side might be, yo, just take the L, you good. Not take the L, but again, the only thing I could imagine the mom saying is, we don't have that much money here. If I, if I give you all of this, there's nothing left.

And there might be some other thing here. I might have to sue y'all to see that. And that might be true. I'm not taking the other side. I'm saying I can only imagine the other side is, we have limited funds.

And that's the funny part. To Joe's point, if you not married, which they were, but when you're not you're not married, sometimes the issue gets presented when you just a long-term girlfriend. Yeah, you don't got no rights here, bitch. What would they put down there? Long-term boyfriend?

What would they put in the, uh, obituary? Special friend. Special friend.

That gives you that. Yeah, some families won't give you that. And so I see, you know what I'm saying, the benefits. And that's why I said like that paperwork should be ironclad in the event you are not married, that paperwork should dictate how you want all of your shit to go, and your— especially your assets and protection. Yeah, well, thoughts and prayers.

Thoughts and prayers. We don't know shit about shit, so we can only speculate. Yo, just, just now— well, uh, yesterday, um, on Monday, uh, Streamers University wrapped up. I think it was Sunday, right? And graduated.

Did y'all have a good, uh, graduation? I wasn't there, man. I wasn't there. Streamers University, but I want to shout out to Carson, that— absolutely, always, you know, at Streamers University. I think that it's important because— no, I'm not begging.

Yeah, watch your fucking mouth. Hey yo, look, I want to salute Carson, and I think that what he, what he's done and what he's doing by, uh, bringing different creators from around the world, no matter your color, no matter your race, no matter who you are, is important in having them engage with each other. Small creators engaging with big creators. I think that that's amazing. When I was tuning in, there was a lot of smaller creators who were afraid to approach the big creators because they didn't want to look like a leech or look a certain way.

And Kai, not only did he say that— Kai and other people, not only did they say that you're supposed to do that, but he encouraged that. I think that's important. That's important. One of my favorite things was an older lady, I think she's 59 years old, named I Love Puzzles. And, um, she was in there and it seemed like she was alone and she just— they was knocking on her door and stuff like that.

But I like the fact that Kai took his time. He popped up behind her, acknowledged her. And I like that a lot of streamers followed that because sometimes when you reach that age, you know, your kids are probably grown, you know, or, you know, chose a different life and you be by yourself. And to see that the kids didn't forget about her and to make her feel feel as important as I felt watching it meant a lot to me. And I gotta pick up the car, man.

Young man doing it, putting on for the young people, man. A lot of y'all niggas made fun of him when he took that mental break, or when he took a break for himself, like, oh no, it's not, nigga. Sometimes you need a break. Your life is on camera 24/7. You're trying to appease to the people out there, and then now you found a way to come back, and not only come back, make an impact.

So shout out to you. University. That my big homie. Watch your mouth. He called me, he called me Unk, nigga.

Watch your mouth. That's cuz you old. That just mean you old. Hey, who you look up to, huh? Me?

Who, 19 Keys, nigga? Who you look up to again? Shout out to my man 19 Keys. Why you disrespecting 19 Keys? That's my man.

I can't tell. No, no, don't, don't, cuz that nigga will respond. I know he will. He with them other niggas. No, exactly.

Has anybody seen Brother Flip? Brother Trevor? Brother Trevor? Hey, how you going to bring somebody here from the, from the nation and not invite me, nigga? You know I want to go be— about fighting, nigga.

Me and you— you said what? What he said? Because he do that shit, he do talk too quick. Say it again, say it again. What he said?

He said he's a fighter and he didn't want you to be like, oh, it's about scared or like intimidated. You know how you feel about that. It was your day off, bro. I shake my hand. Fuck you.

It was your day off. I asked my brother to bring— I want I asked Mark, yo, can you invite me up there to the Nation of Islam? I want to meet Minister Farrakhan. And I got you. It's the only favor I asked.

That was funny. So can you invite me up there to the Nation of Islam? Right, it's one everywhere. Like, it's like, can you invite me to Chicago to meet Minister Farrakhan? I know what you mean.

That got nothing else to laugh at, nigga. Let me sit up. That got nothing else to laugh at, nigga. You immature ass niggas. All y'all do is giggle like little bitches.

Yo, can you say that? I want to meet Minister Farrakhan. You are checking me out, you bitch-ass nigga. All you want to do, Joe, over there. At least when y'all laugh, I'm not distracted like you, nigga.

When a nigga laugh, you don't want to talk, nigga. You mute, nigga. Mute my talk, nigga. You can't stop me from talking. Look what I'm doing.

Laugh at me and watch me talk. Exactly, nigga. Stop playing with me, boy. But you got it, bro. Yeah, nigga.

I want to meet Minister Farrakhan. I mean, you made a good case for it. Yeah, yeah. If I could bring one person to see the minister, it's gonna be you. We talked about it enough.

I'm a fan. I would love to. No, no, I would love to do that. You got— we'd have to go to Chicago. I'm down to go to Chicago.

All right, let's do it. You trying to insinuate, nigga? I'm down to go to Chicago. No, I'm just saying, like, he's not traveling as much. We have to fly, that's all.

Are you still invited there? Huh? Are you still invited? Of course, I'm invited everywhere. Mark, you're not invited to— he said you do more.

Actually, the minister sent me a lovely note last week, 2 weeks ago. Let me see. I don't trust this nigga. He always be dropping— let me see, nigga. Yeah, I love Minister Farrakhan.

I watch all that old Phil Donahue shit. I watch when he's up there the first time, he was cool. The second time when he went back and broke the niggas up, he put out all the Nation of Islam to the front. I watch him. He responded to my eulogy up here.

Oh, that's fine. You can read it. I mean, the minister just watched and was moved to tears. He said your words touched his heart 6 to 7 times. He thanks you for your love and service.

Why you putting that voice on? To our people. So does it— see, you can't say you struggling with some of the words. No, to our people, to the world. I would— what?

You perform your job, minister. You, you perform your job with brilliance and courage. The minister. Why you doing that? Yo, yo, you know what?

Yo, you, you a, you a intellectual bully. His receipt game was crazy right there.

Text that, but he shut me down. Because he doesn't— because he's 92 years old. You can voice it. Hey, tell Brother Mark that I said— this, he gonna be looking for Brother Trevor.

I don't play with— I don't, I don't, I don't play with, you know, nigga, you remember last time. He not playing with them. Yeah, no, salute, salute, salute to the minister. And do you plan on going to see him though, Mark? Do you plan on— yeah, I, I was, uh, when I was in Chicago at St. Sabina, I wanted to catch up, but it was just too so much going on.

Got it. And, you know, I want to be respectful of people's time, but yeah, I would absolutely love to, uh, to see him and anyone else, you know, who's a long-distance runner in our struggle. But, but, but, but, but definitely him. But yeah, bring you— is anybody— is there anybody else who's like a giant that y'all want to meet? Like, I always wanted to meet Muhammad Ali, but I didn't get a chance to.

Like, people like that. No, yeah, um, I might, I might— if I had the chance, I would want to shake OB's hand. Obama. Oh yeah, for sure. Oh, that's interesting.

I want to be Seinfeld.

Jamie Lee Curtis.

Jamie Lee Curtis, that, that counts. Maybe Jamie Lee might be one of them. Bill Clinton. It ain't that many people, but Obama, Farrakhan. Facts.

Uh, Obama is— Muhammad Ali would have been fire. Yeah. How do you act though? You got to be cool. I think you're gonna be cool.

It's gonna be cool all the time. Some me. If anything, I think Ish will under— he'd be too cool. He'll understate how excited he is because he's too cool. It depends on— it depends who would make you giddy.

Obama, male, both of them. Okay, Farrakhan and Obama. Okay, I can see that. I love Farrakhan. Uh, how about you, Ice?

I said Obama. Obama, that's the one. Who was Ice? Martha Stewart. Martha Stewart, sure.

Huh, that wouldn't have crossed— it's a good one, I just didn't think about it. How about you, Park? So many, so many. Just want to meet them. But you— because the thing is, a lot— I feel like a lot of people you would giddy out of, you've already met.

Uh, or you giddy out of them over a musical. Yeah, so many, so many creatives. Giddy out when Ghostface was— when you walked in, was in your seat. I would never forget that. That was classic.

I wish we had the BTS camera for that one. That was great. Mr., Mr., Mr.

Besides Minister Farrakhan, I want to I want to meet Larry David. Yeah. Oh, I can see that. I want to really meet Larry. That shout out with the police.

Have you started watching the new show yet? Larry David from Curb Your Enthusiasm? Oh, I'm scared too. I'm sorry. I'm scared too.

From the Bronx. Oh, that was Larry Davis. My bad. I'm talking about Larry David. I would love to meet him.

He's the only person that I like. I told Ian, yo, Ian, use your white power. Let me meet Larry David, please. What? What's so funny, Freeze?

I want to meet him. Yo, I think I would like to meet Denzel. Oh, that's a good one. He just cool as shit. He just seems Super duper cool.

Yeah, that's a great— um, no, I didn't see— I'm sure everybody else— I wanted to— I'm scared too, but it also might be hilarious. It is Larry David. Scared what? He's got a new show where he's breaking down like historical events but in Larry David format. Oh, okay.

Oh, HBO? HBO. Yeah. Okay. I'm always scared when people do that last hurrah.

Yeah, cuz sometimes you swing for the fences and it's a amazing, and sometimes it's like, oh shit, word, like Curb is amazing, but it ran its course. Go ahead, real quick. My man from the YMCA died, right? He did, the leader. Yo, they have a song, son.

They dropped a new song before he passed away this year. People, yo, you said my man from the YMCA? I thought it was a nigga you knew. I thought when he was homeless, the dude that was in the cop Nah, yo, hold on. He said romantic security guard.

Hey yo, listen, listen, because I was on my stream yesterday and I'm like, yo, you guys, especially the podcast and people around the world, made it very yucky and scary for me to sing the YMCA because they attach salacious behavior to it. Because it's a salacious song. No, no, it's about butt sex. We did. No, no, no, no, no.

We broke the whole thing down. Yeah, we don't got to break it down. But look, nigga, I went on their YouTube, nigga. You went on the Village People page? Yes, I did.

Okay. Yes, I did. And they got a song called Disco Star, nigga. Is that to make it not gay? This new?

Yeah, it's new. It dropped a month ago. I was hyped. All them niggas in it.

Your algorithm gonna be crazy. Disco. Watch your fucking mouth, ish. Slap you. Yeah, nigga, they not gay.

They got girls Who's in this shit? You know girls can be gay too, right? Look. Oh, he doing the dance. The dance is a little freaky.

Hold on. This is gay too. No, it's not. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with it.

No, there's nothing wrong. See, that put me in a twist. A month ago. You know what was a month ago? Pride Month.

Pride Month.

Disco Star is code for gay. Oh, what? Don't you know the truth? You're a disco star. Everyone can tell that's what you are.

Don't you know that you're a disco star? You'll be shining bright all day and night. I'm not going to allow you guys to take my brain. Disco songs, I listened to them as a kid, nigga. Yes, you listen to nigga.

That's Funkytown. Yeah, that's not— that's disco. That wasn't gay.

That was gay Why you think the town got funky? All right, but sex, it all goes back to butts. See, this is the problem with these people, these two mature guys. The problem is you can't— you guys tainted my whole childhood, yo. Don't say taint in this conversation.

I was jamming to that shit. That shit is a gay song.

I mean, every song is— stop, man. Yo, man, it's all right. It's cool, bro. You're a disco star. Embrace it.

Disco star. Embrace it. You just have to know who you are. I saw girls in there, fine, younger— not young, meaning younger than them in the video. Look a little closer.

Yeah, but why can't— why can't it be girls in the video? Yo, can we go to the next topic? I'm not— I'm not allowing y'all to do this. Y'all do that a lot, and y'all put me out there, and I stand on the ledge by myself and in the community, they don't play with me. Which community?

The LGBTQ. They don't play, nigga. They don't play about you. No, they don't play with me. Can we go to— would you like them to?

No, I would not. I would not. Hey yo, speaking of bedazzling, look, I see— speaking of bedazzling, I see what you— I see what you did. I just wrote that. I just wrote it like that because of Fab.

Because of people that— on the board it say death to bedazzled clothes. Yes, that's what it says. Exclamation point, exclamation point. There's a couple of them. Uh, it gotta go, bro.

It has enough. Somebody gotta say it. It was that— I didn't— I don't— it's bad. I mean, it's bad. I like that fashion, son.

You went on bedazzled clothes at the whole show. That's true.

Now pause and shout out to your mother. She complimented me and I love her. She inspired me to go get more bedazzled clothes. She was very complimentary. She pulled me to the side.

Go shake my hand, nigga. It's the truth. No, no, see, I thought fat body, that shit. I didn't see it. Any bedazzled shit you wear is the glitter that your son throw on you, nigga.

Watch your fucking mouth, nigga. Baby Malcolm tearing the car up, nigga. Watch your mouth. I like that shit though. I like the outfit.

I can't, bro. I can't. What's wrong with it? It's bad. It's just got— it's out of hand.

Is it aging or is this what I'm saying? I ain't even talking about just that. Like, it's out of control now. Jeans, everything, hats, shirts, sweatpants. But yo, it's out of control.

You— this is your old man, get off my lawn shit, just so you know. Yes, okay, as long as you know, I'm fine with that. Okay, I'm an old nigga, but some of these old niggas— like an old nigga, huh? You don't dress like an old nigga. Yes, I do.

Freeze, that is not an old nigga. Young niggas don't wear Reeboks no more. Guess who wear them? Freeze. Freeze dress like an old nigga who just came home.

No, he does not dress like an old nigga. That's not a diss. I'm saying like— no, no, no, you might be right. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He don't dress like an old nigga.

He don't dress like he's 50. I mean, what? No, no, say it, nigga. Don't, don't protect your man. Say it.

He don't dress like he's 50. We need— what's understood got to be said. Hey yo, blue eyes, you there? Green eyes. Nigga dress like a 30-year-old nigga.

Chill out, you'll get yourself in trouble. Oh man, and wrap it up. Yo, did y'all see, um, The Avengers trailer is out? Did y'all, did y'all get a chance to peep it? I did, I did see it.

I did. Do y'all have any thoughts on it? Uh, are y'all familiar with— no, I'm kind of, I'm, I'm lost in the timeline of all this, all alternate universes. And I think this was a— because, you know, they were supposed to been doing a whole situation with Jonathan Majors. Yes, as Kang, and all that thing happened.

They they scrapped the entire shit. You're mad over that? Hell yeah. Seeing how it played out, I, I get it. Yeah, I get it.

But, um, they've been needing a home run. Yeah, the MCU in general, for sure. Like, movies— even if the movies have been not bad, but they ain't been blockbuster, right? It hasn't been no hype around like, oh my God, you got to be there. I told I told y'all, y'all know I used to go see these shits the Thursday before they dropped.

Yes, you did. Buying tickets months in advance. I ain't did that in a minute. I haven't wanted to. The people I talked to, like, that be hyped up about these shits, there's been nothing to be hyped about until now.

We're here. You got the Fantastic Four, the X-Men, the Avengers all being thrown into one. It's, it's versus Doctor Doom, which a lot of fuckers is about to die. And I think this is about to be Infinity War death times 10. They— yeah, he's fucking shit up.

And they brought Robert Downey Jr. back. Well, yeah, Robert Downey Jr. is Doctor Doom. So they brought Chris Evans back, who from the end of Infinity War— I mean, excuse me, um, Avengers: Endgame— seemed as if he was taking the path, I'm gonna live life, actually age. He got older, passed shield off. Yeah.

And now he's back, he's welding Thor's hammer. Pause, pause. Whoa, that sounded crazy. But yeah, and now the tickets drop, shit sold out immediately. Kind of like— and it's in December, right?

It's December 18th is the official date. That's crazy. That's, um, December 17th is the date I got tickets for, and a lot of people, because you want to catch that first showing. Yeah, it's interesting though because it's dropping the same day as Dune 3, and there's like an IMAX fight happening. That's smoke.

Dune 3, y'all laughing. Dune, Dune, y'all can laugh. I've never watched them. I never watched it. I never watched it, but I know the Dune people go hard for Dune.

Okay, I just, I just caught up cuz they were a thing. Yeah, I watched both of them, uh, this last probably like 3 months ago. Uh-huh.

That's where that Timothée Chalamet— that's all that came from. Doom. Okay, like he wasn't that prior to Doom. No. So that speaks to just the magnitude of those movies.

Yeah, it's gonna be a battle. Well, yeah, it's gonna be a battle. Avengers is gonna win that battle, I think. I, I mean, yeah, win, yes, I think. But I think so, cuz you don't have to necessarily see Dune in IMAX.

Yeah, you kind of do if you're a Dune head. You might feel different. You kind of do. Okay. But yeah, so we'll see.

We shall see. Shout out to anybody who's excited. Do I have a duty? Is this like some boy shit? I, I missed out on some dude shit that I realized growing up.

Like, I'm not— a lot of dude shit. I did sports, I did all— but like comic books and Avengers and shit like that, I never never got into? I didn't get into comic books. Okay, because I feel like now raising a son, I feel like I gotta— I want to break the— I mean, is this some shit you should introduce your kids to? I mean, probably not comic books.

It was organic for me. Okay, but it was a different day and time. So now you got the internet, we got iPads, we got so many other things that comic books— I don't even think they could have a resurgence in a manner in which that they were— no, I'm saying in that regard, like where I— dog, niggas used to go buy them shits. They still— people still do. My homies did it.

I just didn't get into it. Older people. Yeah, but now they have them digitally. Like they're releasing new comic books damn near weekly. Marvel has their own basic— I think DC has one as well.

You subscribe to them. Sorry, not an ad, but you, you can read the new comic books, new characters being introduced, all of that shit. Still, they keep going. People are buying CDs and playing cards and all types shit. Comic books are going to be on that list.

Vintage comes back, but again, it's the next step in the evolution. A lot of the shit— they got a He-Man movie out. He— now He-Man, see what I'm saying? But that's— but what they're doing is for the— for, like you said, introducing it to your child, it's through the movies now. It's not through the— not through the physical anymore.

It's through the movies. So they did Ninja Turtles, Transformers, He-Man, fucking X-Men, Avengers, all of this shit. Everything from our our childhood, they bring it right back. They just doing it. I wasn't allowed to do nothing else, I missed it.

But I want to loop him in. That's good shit. Movies. I said, I said we talked about movie night. I sat with the kids the other day, we watched the first 3 Transformers movies.

Oh shit. Because they got the toys and don't know who the fuck Optimus Prime is. They just know this shit turns into a truck and we like it. I'm like, yo, let me show y'all. I mean, I can't show y'all the cartoon because they're not gonna fuck with it.

Let me show y'all who these niggas are. And they love that shit. Bumblebee, all of this shit. But that, that's the way you introduce him today. Solid.

Yeah.

That is our show for today.

Hopefully you have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Yo, hey, yo, give me a second, give me a second, second before we can— I would be killed for this. I just want to send a rest in peace to Ali Boy. Oh yes, rest in peace to Bigger Rankin. I'm sorry it took to get to the end of the pod to do it.

Um, the South mixtape scene, just if you— rest in peace. Uh, two tragic stories came out. Um, I believe Ali Boy was kidney failure, and there was some, some videos and, um, resurfaced of him talking about it. Um, I'm— I didn't really get how Bigger Rankin passed but I know all of, you know, Jacksonville, Duvall, just salute. Rest in peace.

Thank y'all for everything. If you listen to any of them Down South mixtapes, you heard— you know Bigger Ranking from DJing them tapes. So just rest in peace. Rest in peace. Rest in peace.

Not as good as Mark with that. Sorry, y'all. That's important.

Oops.

Yo, hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoy delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, we bid you a due farewell. Adios, arrivederci, hasta la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye, or a simple head nod will suffice.

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