Transcript of Episode 933 | "STFU Janice" New

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Like, yeah, let me say this on camera because I got to— like, this shit got to stop, for real.

Welcome y'all to the Joe Budden and Mona podcast. Exactly, we here.

And I don't give a fuck if I talked too much last week.

You did?

Yes, just a half.

Just a half, nigga. I'm trying to give y'all a chance.

Can I tell y'all something? That's a gift that I have, but because of the laws in the world, I can't, I can't, uh, give us Adderall.

You can absolutely give them Adderall in podcasting.

I feel like I shoot a good percentage of knowing when somebody's on something.

Oh, me too. I could tell.

But you can't say that in the workplace.

Oh, for sure.

You sure can't. So let's stop this here. Let this be the last time we do this. I don't want to hear nothing from none of you fuckers.

Did you listen back or you just taking our word? Well, is it my word? Nobody else said it, right?

I said it. Anyway, guys, I have another point that I want to make. Mind your business. I have another point I wanted to make. We was talking about off camera because I know that's what y'all really want. Y'all really want what we say when the cameras are not rolling. So I was saying that, like, I like, I, I like Shawty, you know what I mean? But I hate a bitch that really love her man, you know? And I was talking to this bitch yesterday and she just, oh, Joe, Joe's like, bitch. Like, that's your nigga. Is he in there? So I'm like, where the fuck are you at, bitch? You down south? You up top? She like, down south. Almost hung up. Because like, it's a little—

That's how it's supposed to go. Even though them bitches do be annoying.

Oh my God.

But my man, my man, my man.

Yeah, she really wanted to hang out.

My man, my man, my man.

But I couldn't even crack a shot. You know what I mean? Like, I'll crack a shot. Like, oh, this podcast sucks because of the leadership. She'd be like, well, first off, let me explain why Joe's the best. Like, girl, shut up and take what I said.

I love it, but it's also a trick. It's manipulation.

Is it? Yeah. How? You not even on the phone.

Come on, man. Come on, man.

Joe, that's not right.

I'm a G from back in the day. Now, I do love— I love it, and she really is my man, my man, my man. That's my baby. But it is also a manipulation tactic. I'm a woman.

I'm a woman, and she uses that shit.

You knew it was going to get back to him, though.

Right, right.

How?

I didn't know that.

You know what's crazy? The first 10 times I noticed it, I've never said anything. Have I ever said that to you? Me and Sade have been on the phone millions of times, correct? Or you don't know that?

Well, I can assume that because you texted me yesterday saying, where's our girl?

No, I say we have to call our—

we got to call our girl on FaceTime.

He's selfish. Whatever. Um, no, but I've never— I've never mentioned it before. Like, I've never said that before, that she wanted my man, my man, my man ass bitches. And she listens to this part. Did y'all know that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Y'all better be friends.

And she checks in. She stops here sometimes.

Sometimes that extra little That's going to get some of y'all in trouble.

We can move on. Well, what we was talking about was how I'm never doing another fit check of yours again.

Yeah, that's how we got here.

That's what we was talking about.

Yeah.

Mona does fit checks for her TikTok crew and Snapchat, wherever she be putting them shits. I never asked for no money, so I'm not certain the way it's just being distributed. I just do it on the love. I do it on the strength. I think it's a good content piece. But these last few weeks, she been acting kind of shady.

It's not true.

She been rushing out of here.

It's not true.

I ain't been on a fit check in weeks. So today she come here talking about, ooh, we going to get a fit check today for sure. Uh, no, we're not. Well, not with your butt in it. The thing Mona don't know about me is I was salty when she wasn't doing the fit checks and I was getting dressed. It was days I wanted to come in here in laundry clothes, but I knew this nigga here was gonna do a fit check, so I came in with something to wear and she just went on about her business. So when I'm salty—

such a baddie—

when I'm, when I'm salty about something, I have to find a way to return the favor. It may not be in the next week or the next month, but you gonna feel some of this salt that's on me. We gonna share the sodium.

First off, normal humans, hey Mona, let's tap in so we don't miss each other. Joe Button, I do a fit check last week, he walks through the shit. I'm not doing no fit check and walks through me and Flip Fit Check. You know me and you know Flip Fit Check, we need extra time with.

And he's walking back and forth through the shit trying to be smart.

That was last week. First of all, I have not made $1 off of fit check. I don't make any money. I put it on my TikTok. I don't make money on my TikTok because They claim my content's graphic.

That's the other reason I ain't doing a fit check then. Small creators. Oh, I thought I was helping put money in your pocket, but if you're not earning, we just—

for them, they really like it, and I feel like it gets them to get to know some of y'all more. And I don't know, it's just cool. And I think it encouraged all of us to get dressed because, you know, podcasting traditionally you do it in sweats. But why we can't be the flyest podcast out?

Well, I think it's us getting vulnerable because the audience hates how every one of us dresses. Fuck them. Exceptional part.

Fuck them.

They hate how we dress.

They do. Me too.

They just started giving me credit 4 months ago.

No, the first one I did on you, everybody in the comments called you pregnant. But you got on that old zip.

I got rid of them bitches.

You got a zip down.

The Zempik is for the people that, uh, the insurance is giving them to them.

Yeah, my boy slimmed down, but every comment was like, what is this?

Is this his baby shower? Is this Joe Button baby shower Hahaha! Wait, hold up, because the Ozempic people was complaining. We, we knew about Ozempic giving you Ozempic face and Ozempic butt, but now they're saying to give you Ozempic pussy, and it's a real thing. Oh, what's up?

In a good way or bad way?

Hold on, wait, hold up. Which—

yeah, good way or bad way?

Bad.

Oh, all right.

It's never a good way.

Sometimes it could be.

What's Ozempic pussy? What does it do?

I don't know.

That's what we was asking. How does it change the—

well, it wouldn't be good. It could be—

it could make it tighter, it can make it small.

No, it could not. Coming off the heels of Ozempic ass, which ain't good. Olympic face, which ain't good.

What's Olympic ass?

What's the ass?

I never heard that one.

Pancake. You lose your ass, right?

Drop.

It get low.

Any weight loss, for real, it should be down by your kneecaps. Oh shit, that's any weight loss if you're not doing eating protein and working out. You know what I mean?

If you're not doing—

oh shit, it drop, it fall out, like get to hanging low.

I don't want to get to talking like I'm an expert, but one, one of my people said the Zep Bound fuck your dick up.

Oh God, that us.

I believe one of your people told you.

Gay in here, right off the gun bus.

I was a health professional. Oh, and they said, um, well, as a non-health professional, I'm here to tell you you ain't working off the natty though.

You ain't working off the natty, so you might, you know what I mean? I go natty sometimes. Oh, I go off the nap just to see what I got off the vert still. You can't just always give it to them, you know what I mean? Yeah, now you want to mute up.

I'll take your word for it. I mean, I'm deadass, somebody told me that.

Well, if we do our old school— if we do our old school shit where we fucking bitches in the same room again, I can disprove it. Oh my God. Would you do that with me in the future? Joe, they gonna—

if you pay.

When you pay, it come with noises.

That's the part of the game. It's like Teddy Ruxpin. Oh shit, he ain't like that I posted whatever I posted on Instagram. He ain't like that shit now. He strapped up for me. Whatever.

Oh, he didn't even catch it.

But you getting shot.

Yeah, he didn't even catch it.

Now he's shooting at me today. He on his shit.

Mind you, in that clip, Ish looks so offended, like Not at all. I know, but it just looks like it in the clip.

Don't be offended. Niggas that get shot got to be careful when they offended.

Wow, trauma.

That's not true.

This nigga's crazy. Come on, is that funny?

Yeah, I'm waiting for your bum ass music.

I'm in a—

wow, wow, wow, wow.

Music be great.

Thank you, man.

Jesus, like 90— you shoot like 95% from the field.

My grandma, you looking good, Mona.

Thank you, I think so too.

Got your new nails, huh?

This new ass. I don't know why everybody—

baby fat to go with them.

That's right.

Hold up, the fupa's gone.

The cat out the bag.

The cat gone. Said the cat out the bag. I said Mona went and got that body right.

Uh-huh.

Hey, is this the grand reveal?

No, I, I guess I'm still swollen and shit. I just got it done though, really. I got it done last week. I just wore men clothes. I know, you told me, cuz I ain't I want to talk. Goddamn, Parks. I wore men clothes last week because I wasn't ready. I mean, most people probably be laying in the bed eating ice chips, but I have to work. I have a lot of children.

I mean, you probably should be laid down somewhere.

I mean, this is only podcasting, but I'm so glad to be here. I don't want this to cut my show. I'm so glad to be here, and I look so good, and I am single, and I am fucking.

Hello! Yeah, look, look, hype! Do your coochie in the pod first. Yo, I'm single and I'm fucking. This is my brother. You ain't got your catchers, man.

You not fucking.

Shut up, Mark.

I'm—

I want to fuck.

She not fucking.

She ain't fucking. I want to.

Don't try to set up.

You said stuff.

What? Soon as I can shake this ass, I want the whole mix to be ass shaking stuff. I should have shook this ass when I had the chance the last time we was dancing. I like when we—

I'll take— we'll take the 305. We'll give you a little Miami, uh, Uncle Luke, 2 Live Crew.

All you got to do is throw that— bounce that ass like your friend. That do it. You ain't get a—

you ain't get a bone job.

Your knees better be still right just because the ass got fat.

I know how to shake this ass, period. Okay, it's been fat, I just filled in some days. Thank you.

Got you. Um, shut up.

And you know what? No, you know what it is for me? Any like Project Pat 3-6 type beat. That's what really— it ain't that new shit. I'm old.

I like that, you know.

Okay, I legit got cut in half, guys. It was crazy.

Congrats.

You feeling all right?

How you doing?

How you feel?

Oh my God, I could die right now, but—

No, I heard that shit is painful.

No, I woke up, right? Like, oh my God, I'm about to die. Where's the pain meds, right? And they give you Tylenol where I went.

Um, Tylenol.

And you know what they did to calm the pain? They walked up to me with the, um, picture of myself. Pain gone.

Yo, that 42 dog on— Hey, hey, wait a minute now.

Hey, hey, hey, let's Work.

Hey, hey, big Mona, let's work. Hey, hey, got your body done. Work, work, work. Now that ass didn't work. All right, all right, all right, relax. She's still in recovery. Relax, we don't empower women up here. Relax.

Oh shit. Uh, wake up guys, we're here to have fun.

Yes sir.

Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check, mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. So happy to be here today. I could fool anyone else. So glad y'all could join us. Rest in peace to the community if they are indeed killing the community out there. It's been real. Thank you for your support, your love, your service. Y'all can curse them out later if y'all want.

That requires acknowledgement, huh? That requires acknowledgement.

Shout out to wherever you might be listening from, man. Anybody getting ready for spring? Anybody getting ready for summer out there? All the graduates, all the graduates out there. I'm on my peaceful spa vibes, man. I'm chilling. I don't want no smoke. I'm here for a good time, not a long time. Always for the ladies, always for the ladies.

It's more than just your physical. Shout to all the happy couples out there.

All the miserable couples out there, we love you, we love you.

Everybody on vacation right now.

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute now.

Yummy! Everybody on their way to Philadelphia for Roots Picnic? Y'all going to Roots Picnic? Y'all going to Roots?

Going to Roots?

Yes, sir.

I believe so.

Yes, sir.

Got it, got it. Shout out to all the hoes that touch they self out there. Man, and all the artists that make music about it. It's a very important, uh, very important topic.

Who is that? Who is that?

And Mona, what episode is this?

933.

Welcome to episode 933 of the Joe Button podcast. Brought to you by Powered by Fueled by PrizePicks. PrizePicks gang, yeah! I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here host Joe Budden, here with the dopest cast on Earth. To my right, Philly's finest, don't call her white girl, you know the vibes, Big Mona in the building. Mona, how you doing?

I'm doing amazeballs.

Good, we absolutely love that. Next to her, Philly's second finest, fucking our good brother Dr. Marc Lamont Hill in the building.

Marc, what's up with How are you? I'm great, man. Feeling good.

Good. Absolutely love that. Next to him, come on, man. I know you got that money from them tenants by now. Boy, if you ain't get that money by now, I ain't gonna hold you, nigga. Old school, we'll go over there together. No way you still ain't get that money. Goddamn it. Anyway, Mr. Thousand Doors and Up himself, Ish, is in the building. Ish, how you feeling, man?

Somebody just sent me $1,200.

That's only one.

$1,200, that ain't even a full rent at 1018.

All right, it's $1,200.

You got it for the first, right? Yeah, you got something. It's early, right?

The first of April.

Is that what the late fee—

you one of them soft landlords?

Yes.

Yes, them niggas think I'm sweet. Yes.

No, no, no, they think you sweet. You are sweet.

Sweet money right here.

If they, they, if they paid you April rent, then you sweet still. And yo, I got an announcement out there because times is hard, fucking when gas prices and shit is up. Oh, if I'm late on my rent, don't text me about it.

Really?

I know already. Duh. I can't believe— I thought about that shit all when I went home, that Ish was texting these people. Don't text me if I ain't give you the rent.

Now, 2 months, you can text them.

I'm gonna do more than text you.

I'm texting you on the third. I ain't sending the people down there with this motherfucking Roscoe.

See, no, that's where— that's where I'm not lucky. If I'm not paying you rent for months at a time, time, I factored in the time that it takes for you to file the paperwork and them to come put this pink slip on my door. That counts in my time. As long as when that note come and it say, yo, you got to have this money by this date, man, as long as I got it. So don't text me.

Them niggas now know how to play the game. That first note come, it'll be 8 months before.

Yeah.

And because you filed, I'm not paying no more now.

Exactly. And the courts are backed up in most places, so it's like you have an extra 6 months, man. Ever since COVID niggas know how to get Come on, Iso on ish.

The problem is these renters got too many rights. Let's get to the— let's get to the real root of the matter. Yeah, on God. I'm not saying that, but it's true. It's not true.

It is true. I just think that you just said you wouldn't say nothing. No, no, I don't think that they got too many rights, or not. I think that just as a human being, you're supposed to do what's the right thing.

When I'm making a good joke and bit, don't ask me to be as a human being.

This is— guys, if I— did y'all see the landlord that went viral for getting— for fucking in one of his tenants' houses? Yes, yo, that's me.

You late on the rent, now this is our apartment, and I'm knocking on your counter.

I'm eating the fucking Uncrustable. I love me a warm Uncrustable that's not in the fridge.

I'm eating Uncrustable, getting heated out for about 20 minutes. Let it—

I can't fuck this nigga at the house, my husband here.

I know you about to be throwing it. Your shoulder dance hitting different, everything hitting different. Everything looks so much better. Nah, I ain't going to hold you. You looking like— I mean, uh, anyway, uh, yo, give Ish his money, yo. Stop playing. Just cuz he on a podcast making millions don't mean he don't need— don't mean don't need the money from you. For real. When he bought the property, he bought it thinking that he put somebody in there that would pay the rent. His millions don't have nothing to do with y'all, with your thousands.

Pay it up, or lack thereof.

See, that's the other thing with renters, because they renting sometimes, and I'm saying this for from my renter brain back when I wasn't paying the rent.

No, this is the problem. But because this stupid motherfucker say his millions podcast money and really think he telling the truth and think that you got it and don't need your rent money.

Somebody is making millions off podcasting.

Yeah, a few peeps. Somebody's in here. But anyway, renters, let's stay right there. Yeah, please don't stay right there.

Somebody in here making millions of dollars off podcasting.

Yes, one person.

Let's play a Please.

Okay. It's easy game.

Is Po making millions off of podcasting? No.

No, no, no, no.

Is Parks making millions off of podcasting?

Maybe, maybe, maybe. Maybe. Write that down, put an asterisk by that. He might be.

No, I am not.

Parks has been here for 10 years.

Listen, baby, in his face read for the listeners. Is Ice making millions off of podcasting?

No, close, close, close. No, close.

Ish making millions off a podcasting?

Fuck no. Yes, yes, yes, yes. All right, now keep— we got another yes coming. No, keep going. Come on, we got another yes.

Oh yeah, keep going.

Is Mark— is Mark making millions off a podcasting?

Oh no. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Is Mona making millions off a podcasting?

She still sells coke.

Joe making millions off of podcasting.

Wait, no, we not done with you. Would have been a yes, but due to us peeping her lifestyle and how she, how she live, I'mma guess no. I'm so happy that y'all quiet, cuz this shit is inappropriate.

Best part is Joe making millions off of podcasting in our backs.

We got the fuck— in our backs. That was hilarious.

Great game.

Great game. Great game. I like you playing Like, like once a month.

No, we're not.

We not going to beat them allegations and not want to play.

Yeah, no, nigga.

I—

anyway, you see, anyway, Freeze is here. Mr. Take It Further himself. Freeze, how you doing, man?

I'm great, man. I'm absolutely great.

Good, love that, love that. Elmira's finest, Big Parks is in the building. You good, Parks?

Chilling, feeling great.

Love that. White Poe is in the building. In Love Cory is in the building. Fresh the Death Phelps in the building. I ain't playing with you today, boy.

I ain't playing.

I see you over there, nigga.

Backed him down last time. He did, he did.

He learning.

But that's part of being wise and knowing and recognizing when you have been backed down. Some niggas try to fight through it. He got it.

Makes it worse.

Yeah, it only makes it worse. It only makes it worse. Hold up, the new account just laughing about something privately on this major broadcast. Free, what happened? Free?

Nah, I just be hearing funny shit and it just be funny.

Don't leave us out the joke.

Yeah, we want to laugh. Keke, nigga, you— that's the joke.

That bullshit you just said applies to you.

Oh man, damn. Yo, what they think of me versus what is— you think that I don't back down?

No, I know you don't back down. I've personally witnessed you not backing down. You be wrong and don't care and will double, triple, quadruple down in it. Just to avoid saying I was wrong.

That's a little different than what we're talking about.

Yeah, that's not really what I'm talking about.

We talking about if, like, if a motherfucker get you, throw a shot at you, but it fit, you gotta just eat it. It's like the shit last week with Phelps when, when they had it back and forth. Joe was like, all right, you got me there.

Like, that Joe was trying to clown his clothes. He showed him the tags, so he was wrong.

And in that instance, he backed down. He don't normally do that.

Got you.

He be wrong and then will double and triple and quadruple down. But wait, wait, no, no, I hate this Y'all lying, y'all.

Listen, but the presence of one don't mean the absence of another. We not talking about that. I do that what you said that time.

I do that that time.

You— that's not—

that's not up for debate.

I do that.

There's no fight. But how many times do I do the other shit?

I don't know. I seen you do it last week.

Who else is here? Yo, Court Phelps, Tanner, and, uh, Tanner and fucking Erickson are here. Savon is here. Who else is here? Please, somebody come here.

He said Tanner.

Oh, he said Tanner.

These motherfuckers. They said pardon with your friends, it'd be a benefit. It is anyway.

It's a benefit.

Yeah, it is a benefit, my nigga. The fuck you talking about? I mean, if you put all your stock in money— yeah, on meaningless paper that they, they, they print that on.

Slave Master faces and all that shit. Don't nobody care about that shit. Crazy. Come on, man.

Cashless Don't put all your stock— that's not where true happiness is.

No, that's right. Money can't buy happiness. Happiness is in things that the dead presidents bought you. The slave owners bought you a Ferrari, you know what I mean? Vroom vroom, little happiness there.

That Ferrari don't make me happy. I'm about to get rid of it.

Slave owners bought you some— getting that new electric one.

You got a Ferrari, nigga?

Damn.

Oh, that ain't all. Oh, that ain't it.

You stick out for—

yo, Miss Philadelphia.

You got rules, nigga. Take me somewhere, boy. Not through there, nigga. Over there. Take me over there.

Yes, over the bridge. There's a difference.

It's a difference. And some people do that, you know.

What do you mean when they say take me through there?

Get fucked. That's what I think. Get fucked or take me through a stressful time. That's how I— because it's kind of new. Take me through this a new drawing for us. You know, we old, we got to keep up with the young hip shit. Now we sit up here and say that, all the kids say take me through there, mean get on ecstasy. We going to be looking so stupid.

Nah, the kids will have you calling your girlfriend Lil Ball, Lil Shit, Lil Shit, Lil Fine Shit, Lil Ye, Lil Ye.

The Lil Shit was hard.

I fucking hate Lil Shit.

They lost to me. I was so glad to be old boo, especially somebody that's not your bitch yet, like your boo, you know, when you— that's your little shit.

That's your little shit.

Your wife is your little shit.

My wife is your little shit. Yeah.

Oh damn, little shit.

Yeah. And it's a male to female thing. Your female don't call her nigga little shit, but the nigga call her little piss. Oh, what the fuck are we talking about? Like, what?

Where, where, where would you guys like to start?

Wherever you want to go, Janice.

Jonas. Hey Jonas. All right, well There you have it. Uh, apparently this week— I don't even know how this came about, so we did some digging.

Yeah, yeah, they had time.

But who did the digging is what's gonna help me figure it out. Was it the OVO people? Was it Joe Budden people? Podcast people? Who has this just in there? But anyway, they pulled up an old clip of when Ice and Ish first got here and we was all talking And if I remember right, the context of the conversation was when I want to be a Karen.

Oh, uh-huh.

Oh, okay.

Sometimes being a Karen is all right.

Yeah.

So what is my white woman name? Like, what am I calling it when I'm doing it?

Okay.

And I said mine was Janice.

Okay.

And then I tossed it to them, and then the clip cut off from there. But so that was the talk. And now the internet has put 1 and 1, or 1 and 4 together and I'm Janice.

Yeah, it's way better than like the— what was it, the marketing manager at UMG or something like that?

Yeah, that one was hard.

And the other one was, uh, they were saying was Baby Keem's mom, I believe.

Oh, come on.

And wasn't they saying The Sopranos, the sister from The Sopranos?

No, the line is—

no, that's where the sample comes from.

Oh, so on a scale of 1 to 10, how sure are you that you Janice? Oh, he's Janice.

No, he's I was about to ask y'all if y'all think I'm Janice.

10 being—

no, we know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, the way that you guys say that this boy is meticulous, because I don't think Baby Keem's mom nor the marketing manager need to shut the fuck up, right?

Oh, yeah. But Joe talks a lot.

Joe talks a lot.

Like, people—

I mean, a lot.

Everybody talk. But who would you want to say shut the fuck up to if not Joe Button? Like, I sit right here and I always want to say shut the fuck up, Janice, Joe, whatever. Ever.

Yeah, but I don't know.

I saw some people on Twitter say the opposite.

I was gonna say, I don't— the record is Shut the Fuck Up, Janice, and maybe I'm Janice, but he's dissing— at least when I listened to it, I thought he was dissing everybody else in the world. I didn't really hear a Joe Budden diss.

Sprinkled you through.

I gotta listen to it again now.

You sprinkled through like Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean? Like kanaf on Dubai chocolate.

The funny shit is I'm Janice even if I ain't Janice now. Yeah, of course.

Yeah, boy.

Yeah, I see some niggas out there mad I'm Janice. They trying to talk me out of it. It ain't you, it ain't y'all. Hey, it is if it ain't. Yeah, it's lit if it is.

Akademiks was the one saying that it wasn't you, and he gave an explanation for why.

I saw a couple more people saying to.

Yeah, what did X say?

He, he just said it wasn't Joe. He said the song was dissing multiple other people and that it wouldn't fit for it to be Joe. Now I don't know if that's— if he thinks that. I don't know if that's a cover. I don't know if he could be wrong.

He's an insider.

He's an— but that's what I'm saying, he's an insider. So I feel like Drake could have also just told him, you know, that wasn't about Joe. Uh, but this— he didn't say that, but that's what I wonder if that's where it came from.

But that's just like what Joe just said, like, well, I don't get it because every other diss for other people. Who fucking cares? And now you're in the game.

Sprinkle, sprinkle little J on the song.

Grab her in the blunt part.

Yeah, that's it.

Joe is the grabber on that song.

All right, let's get to the bottom of this.

Let's do it.

Let's get to the bottom of it. I was out again, this song came on. Yo, listen, I got to go with— hey, all right, let's see. Now some people on the internet were saying that if you take off the baby and put Joseph, then this applies.

No, you looking too far into it.

Listen, buddy, I didn't look into nothing. I woke up one day and niggas was in my shit calling me Janice.

You don't have to always dissect it down to every little piece.

No, that shit is aggravating. I know all of y'all are getting it.

Of course, bro.

That shit was in my shit 100, 200 times, bro.

What?

Janice?

Just the word Janice?

The clip, the clip.

This joint hard as fuck.

This shit is, it's so hard.

You really lit, boy.

I'm that nigga.

You that nigga.

I don't give a fuck.

That's lit.

All right, let's see. Don't make no face. He fucked this up.

I ain't even a drink fiend.

He fucked this up. Hey Mark, don't make a face on the— if I call up this shorty, right? Mark, we'll face Mark face.

Mark the king of the faces. I forgot I was on camera, my bad.

God, Jesus, man. Mark face be perfectly placed.

This shoe might fit, my nigga. Hey yo, that shit might be your size.

Crazy.

Already y'all coming away with that? I'm from the 11th, dog. I ain't hearing it. We know how you OGs rocking already, my nigga. The jig is up. They say the truth will set you free.

Well, might as well stream while you watching HD. They say that karma could take an eternity.

Yours is dropping the same night as me.

Funny thing is that they ain't gonna repeat.

I mean, it's not just you.

I don't hear it.

Don't cut off the best part. That was the part about you.

Shut the fuck up. Hey Jonah, shut the fuck up.

Hey Jonah, this is funny.

Well, since I'm Janice, this remind me of when fucking, uh, the Migos dissed me in that fucking number one song, and everywhere I went for the whole summer they was playing it. What was that? They played that shit as soon as I walked in a club. That was your song? Yes, they were playing that shit like it was Pump It Up.

Shout out to everybody in the building. Nah, for real.

What that shit said again?

What did it say?

Something like that. I don't remember the exact words.

And then pussy in the background.

No, but like pussy.

Yeah, like it was a Migos ad-lib. Yeah, Migos ad-lib is a different dish.

They shot the video with it.

Allegedly.

I don't remember seeing it.

Oh man, we gotta play that. We can't talk about it and not play it. RIP Takeoff.

Off.

Mama.

All right, listen. Yeah, they got, they got the boy out of here. Made you— yo, all the Joe Budden disses be hard. I ain't going to lie, Lil B, Lil B started the trend. Imagine walking in the club though.

Yo, that's crazy.

Yo, that's crazy. She walking like this. That shit had the clubs lit.

The next contract, uh, the discussion we have, I'm walking into that. I'm walking in the meeting with that on like I'm a wrestler.

Yo, that's Phelps going to be in the back like, "Bussy!" Little new shit, some new, new shit. All right, back to this guy. Oh, this is all the Kendrick shit. Come on.

I don't—

yeah, well, how many houses you build? Ish builds houses.

I mean, you know what I mean?

Man, you been— you mean doing your little thing?

How many interviews you going to do?

You know, I hate that we got to pick each part piece apart. Why can't it be that that part is for Joe and that's it?

That's it.

That's what I think is happening.

I like reaching watching though. Okay, I have long arms.

All right, yeah, maybe it's just titled after me and I'm Janice. And, and I do gotta shut the fuck up sometimes.

Please. I think that when I listen back to this shit, he don't want you to shut up.

It could be a by the way type of shit where I'm talking about all this. Oh yeah, and by the way, Joe, shut the fuck up.

Yeah. And then, yeah, I mean, he's— it's been years since all this happened. He's a little, he's a little tight still.

That nigga Patroni, wait till I find out. Block you, nigga. Out what is fucking— probably some shit like Orbs Angel or some shit.

Oh my gosh.

All right, well shit, we got to the bottom of it then.

I think so.

We got to the bottom of it.

Congratulations, Joey.

Thank you.

Another, another one. Thank you.

You, you, you the number one song. You such a narcissist.

Listen, I'm number one. Ain't nobody— I'm number one again. I don't think there's nothing to be mad at. I know we don't. It's a Bop. Wait, wait, is there a world where I'm supposed to be mad-ish? Come on. Oh, okay, I'm about to say—

I was about to say—

no, you're the nigga that'll be like, see, based on my inspiration, I'm the one that got him a number one hit. You owe me, nigga. That's your brain.

Really, it's both ours.

It's really our—

it's our song. You, you, you ain't— you remember during the recap, I kept telling this nigga to dig deep in me.

Now he listened to me.

You the reason for the makes us. Joe bought the album, don't look for his name in the thank yous.

He did.

Let me see. Oh shit, niggas still do that?

Do these niggas still have to thank people?

They need to.

They should.

They should.

Really should.

Yo, I ain't gonna hold y'all, I'm gonna tell y'all the truth. No other artist is going to tell y'all, niggas hated doing the thank yous. Not one artist out there loved doing the thing. But you know, your first album, no, really standard.

And so you had to do it.

Your first album, you excited to do it because there's so many people you want to thank, right? And then as you get to writing, because there's so many people you want to thank, that's what— you don't want to do this anymore.

You want to leave nobody out. You got to keep going over it. Like, fuck, I'm glad the internet wasn't around because nowadays they be like, yo, you see, he ain't thank such and such. For sure, left such and such off the thank you list. That means something.

I never write in my books. Same thing. Like, I, I have to— it's the last thing I do and I hate it. The first book I love loved it, but I was— it was stressful. After that, I, I put it off to the end. Well, I try not to do it.

Just think I started doing some shit like putting a poem or some shit. I think on one of my albums, one of my later albums, I just took the tracklist and made the thank yous out of the song titles.

You're too creative. That's that smart shit. Like, go ahead.

Yeah, different shit.

Please, please see how far that got you.

Anyway, um, Oh yeah, so I'm not mad if I'm Janice. I'm not mad, then I don't have any thoughts on this. Big rapper diss me, you gotta work on your hate.

I do, you gotta work on some albums, Joey. I'm on some albums, but it's not this shit. It's just like me saying funny shit.

I got tired of just like the mixtape niggas dissing me, like SoundCloud niggas, television niggas.

Like, need some superstars. Yeah, a little separation.

Yeah, because when Hov was dissing me, niggas ain't acknowledge that that's what was happening.

They made it sound like you was imagining it.

Yeah, they made it sound like I was delusional. Oh, so at least this time it's—

that happened with Drake too for a while. Like, remember the 4 PM Calabasas? They're like, that wasn't about you. They made it seem like you was delusional.

That nigga told me, he tore me up on that shit.

Then he got to the point where he got a little bit more.

That's really why I love this show. I'm such a fan of that nigga. What'd you guys say? It's like when I battled Hollow. I was such a fan of him, I wanted to hear what he was going to able to say, yeah, go ahead and diss me, nigga. That 4 PM Calabasas, I got to be that level of grown. I'm glad I was on my way out the game.

Yeah, I ain't that grown.

You heard it.

You take it personal?

I mean, Ish hasn't heard any Drake songs.

He's— he— yes, he has.

I've heard—

I don't know if you play 4 PM Calabasas, he be like, oh, he, he's going to say, wait, this about you? I tell you exactly how this is going to go.

I want to be—

he knows the song.

I want to be that—

he knows the song.

He freestyle twice and didn't remember.

Have you heard This nigga mad on this. Somebody made this crispy.

I thought we looked out for one another. Saw all his brothers in the struggle, too blessed to be—

I'm not playing that.

Get the fuck on.

I ain't playing that. He went off on that shit. Anyway, what else needs our— what What else needs our attention? What doesn't need our attention?

We talking new music?

We could.

That new Lotto was out.

Mark, you're such a bitch.

I was joking.

I thought he was dead.

You wanted to talk about it first.

He beat you to it.

That new Lotto.

Crazy, yo.

No, Ice came in and said he liked it.

No, he did not. Don't lie on me. Ice came in and said I I made it through 5 songs and said okay this is uh yeah let me go put on something else I did about 6 yeah yes absolutely because it's not bad I did one it's exactly what you think it would be no no no no no don't do that it's an in love horny lot of—

Not What You Think That's Not What You Expect Horny?

I mean there's a lot of yeah yeah okay there's a lot of fucking going on up there yeah in love fucking yeah I ain't expect that she just had a baby too good that do make you horny for retirement album album.

It definitely—

this is not the retirement—

when you drop that shit, boy, they're not letting her retire off this album. Retire?

You know that, people, cuz she announced this as a retirement album.

Oh, child, please.

I believe when rappers say they retiring, I believe.

And we got so much respect for the situation that we just let it rock. But I mean, I could have came and gave what I thought was happening, but it would have sounded real misogynistic. Dawg, why is it misogynistic if a guy say sit down for a second? Sit down, huh?

It's 2026, y'all just can't say certain shit.

Why though?

Why?

Because you have penises, so shut the fuck up.

But I'm saying if you in a relationship with somebody—

oh, of course that's different. You could tell your bitch to sit down. You tell somebody else bitch to sit down.

We saying as if her dude might to say, you having a child, we got enough money for you not to have to be out here. Chill out, chill out. Yeah, let's enjoy this. All this touring shit, you don't need all that.

I got too much respect for 21 to say that that's what I think. Okay, but I think that—

I mean, it makes sense. I feel like every woman that has a baby, especially did it the way Lotto did it, every woman don't want to tour with the baby and be lugging the shit around with the headphones on. Everybody don't I don't want to do that.

Exactly. Yeah, so the alternative is, and depending upon who your baby father is, you ain't doing that because you don't have to.

Yo, check this out. When the sit-down come, it ain't supposed to be a lot of questions. That's the thing. No, you talking back.

It's not a discussion.

Yeah, you think we're going back? And when the sit-down come Go sit the fuck down. He said sit down. Sit the fuck down.

It's not a question mark at the end, sit down. No.

And it's not—

wait, wait, wait, but let me help out, let me help out. Because they're going to look at us a certain way. It's not a one-way thing either.

That's true.

That's true. It's not a one-way thing. Your girl can tell you to sit your ass down. Yeah, right.

No, no, no, he's telling the truth. That's not fair.

Tell me what instance a woman can tell you to sit down.

My girl tells me sit down all the time.

Same.

All the time.

Dog, niggas will call my phone like, yo, we up here at the blah, blah, blah.

Nah.

I'll be like, all right, give me 10 minutes. I'll go tell my girl like, yo, yeah, blah blah blah, and then move it. My girl give me the— no, you don't go tell your girl. No, no, no, no, you don't go tell— there you go. Let's be clear, I'm not even gonna lie, I gotta get a permission slip.

I don't go out. Is this telling the truth about it?

That is the truth. I'm telling— ain't no truth to be— I mean, there ain't no shit to be making up.

All right, your partner, if it's a good partner— you, I mean, if it ain't a good partner, your partner should be like the checks and balance system. I'm saying that there's times where me, I, and me and my decision-making have decided to get out of character for a month, and she'll, she'll, she'll need somebody to reel you in. She'll watch it and be like, yo, that know you and is watching you to be like, yo, dog, what you doing? Fuck, cuz of what I'm saying, what are you doing for you? Yeah, you need somebody that care. Sit down. It's just, just, you've been out 4 times this month, yo. That bartender is not that cute this month. I mean this week. Oh, this week. Go sit your ass down. You famous, you all at the same bitch bar, you throwing thousands. These bitches made $35 when you ain't there, nigga.

Move.

Act like you somebody, nigga. You look like a doof. All right, baby, sometimes you need to hear that. All right, you right. Yeah, you've been in my phone, so you really know the doofy shit. Anyway, anyway, uh, I haven't heard the Lotto album.

It's not bad, it's just too lovey-dovey for me.

I don't really want to hear nobody in love.

Did you like the Ronald Isley sample drum with her and him on it?

Yeah, actually I did. I didn't expect to—

I—

that was what I was like, that threw me off. I thought it was gonna be too syrupy. I liked it.

Can somebody play play it? I'm not just going off words.

There's a couple on there that's all right.

Yeah, it's not—

it's not a bad album, it's just—

It's what I expected.

My problem is her last album was too good.

Okay, that's it.

The last album was absolutely fire.

Here's Hostage with 21 Savage.

Oh no! No, no, don't stay here though.

Just hold on.

It's the point.

It's the point.

Pause this. Pause this. Pause this.

It does, uh, it's the point. You stay there.

It's the point already.

Yes, it contextualizes.

You got your dude on here with the sample singing, I love you, baby, love you. This is about to be the Chance the Rapper album.

But it's like the 6th track in. It's not like they don't—

No, it's a vibe. It's a Chance.

Go ahead.

They love—

Go ahead.

They love record.

This is the, uh, y'all niggas hate love relationship reveal song and shit.

Yo, stop this!

Oh boy, I don't know when it started. All right, I don't want to do like a real deep dive on an album I haven't heard yet. I feel like recently she give me a lot Drake.

A lot of people give a lot of Drake. Yeah, in fairness.

Yeah, he's right.

I don't get that from a lot of people.

Shit, you ain't listening probably to a lot of people.

Yeah, that part.

Did you remember this late, uh, Latto's intro from her last album? Most people said that this specifically sounds like Drake penned this This. Yeah, did the Ref track. So I'm not talking about what people say about people, I'm talking about Telado specifically. Like, this song sound like it could have been on— what's the 21 album he did with Drake? Her Loss. Sound like they could have took a couple joints from there. I'm just talking shit right now, but go ahead.

But I hope—

I don't think this would have been—

see, stop this. It's too soon for me to hear Shebang flow from somebody Well, stop it.

This is not Shebang flow.

Yes, the fuck it is.

Okay, the flow may be the same. I don't think that she took this from that song because this song has—

if you ain't say that, I wouldn't—

it didn't come out 2 weeks afterwards. Like, it is like she couldn't have heard Shebang. I guess maybe she could have heard it.

I'm not saying that, Parks. I'm not saying that she heard it.

Got it.

I'm saying that this sounds like the Shebang flow to a T. Oh, okay, that's fair. And And that's just too soon for me to hear that right now. Go ahead.

Y'all not fucking with this?

It sounds great.

Oh, this is one of the joints I like.

I'm done giving my opinion on what I think is going on.

I think it sounds good musically.

It sounds great.

It's a super lovey kind of record, which is not my love. Love rap records are not usually my favorite.

That's not your job? Okay, typically.

Is there another like standout on it that we should hear?

No.

I mean, y'all heard the single.

Yeah.

The, uh, the joint with Glo.

Well, the intro she released. Yeah, um, I like the, um, well again, I only made it through— yeah, Chrome Heart Diaper Bag. I do like that one. I, I only made it to like track 6 on the album. I was just like, yeah, let me go.

And there's a lot of features on here, by the way. Glo is on here, 21 Savage, Doja Cat, Sexyy Red, Mariah the Scientist.

I want to play a song. I don't care about that. Okay, I want to hear a song.

Chrome Heart Diaper Bag.

I don't want to sound like the NPR people with the—

just reading off.

Yeah, let's hear music. Lotto albums always going to sound like some money was spent.

See, I didn't get that.

I got only heard— Today I'm pulling out the G-Wag. Tonight this nigga getting teabagged.

First round, he'll be tapping out.

He'll be begging me for a rematch. Killing hoes, it's a repack. Why body, not the E? All right, let's go.

Do the drums ever come in on this?

Yeah, see, this how I like my lotto.

Yeah, I love this record.

Now my closet is That's hard. Hey, screaming, hey, screaming, hey, screaming.

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Hey, oh God, I hate that Dreams and Nightmares made everybody do this. Dreams and Nightmares made everybody just not bring the drums in when they supposed to come in.

Yeah, I'm so fucking cold I could put your coat in the trunk.

All right, all right, all right.

But yeah, that's that. Like I said, I, I only made it to maybe 6 or 7. That was outside of what I've already heard, which was the Glow record, the intro. That was probably the standout so far. I don't know what the rest of the album has. I, I'll get back to it at some point.

All right, well, that, that sounds hard. I'm— that's hard enough for me to go, uh, purchase and give it a listen, even though she's in love, and I have a rule against listening to people in love.

I hate y'all, man.

It's true.

It's some good in love albums out there.

Which ones?

Name one.

Uh, Like Water for Chocolate.

Was that in love? I mean, the light— okay, that's—

was obsessed with Erica the whole— even the next 2 hours. Yeah, that's a great in love album.

I see Common in the street from time to time, so I can't tell the truth about Common's, uh, when Common is in love. With you.

And let me ask you, dude, that last— this most recent Wale album, I mean, based on the tracks, sound like he was— he was— his nose was open, at least based on the tracks.

He was going through it.

Yeah, but he was going—

that don't sound like in love. He's like, I was going through it. In love, you going through it?

You going through it?

I'm talking about the happy—

I'm talking about people that we know in real life are in a relationship and in love. Wale, I don't know what the fuck his business is. It's just in the music, whatever it is.

Got you.

But Lotto, we see the happiness.

You say like when it's public and then—

yeah, and then, and then we hear the music. So I don't even know if it's really about the music or our psyche when we know that, or your psyche when you make that.

Nah, because sometimes you kind of right, because it ain't even about the knowing them. It's, it's, it's—

it'd be different.

Like, so when you're not in love, or who you was, or what made us a fan of you, you kind of steer away from it just because you're so happy. I don't even necessarily be the love part, just be happiness. Like, I'm speaking— I'm speaking from a place of being happy.

No, you're not wrong. I think it depends on what you were doing before too. Yeah, yeah. Miseducation, Lauryn Hill, she was in love. That whole album, she was madly in love with Rohan at that point, but that wasn't a departure of who she was as an artist. So, you know, I mean, if you—

if you make—

there was a lot of breakup.

Yeah, but she— that's what made it so great. It was like, we know who it was about.

So you're confusing things. Breakup record's cool, a love record is different thing. Yes.

Yeah, but what he was just saying is when a— when an artist is in love, they don't make— they don't really make that kind of I'm saying, can you— can you be in love, have a couple breakups for your ex? Fuck my ex, I'm in love with this new person.

You can't be in— see, that's what I think. I don't think you could be in love and do X Factor.

Really?

X Factor comes from a real place, dog. That's why it is what it is, because you hear that song and you can't fake it. Yes, you cannot fake that.

Yeah, fuck it, fuck Wyclef. I'm in love with Rohan. That's the whole point. Lost Ones and all of them is for Wyclef. The new shit is for Rohan. Yo, I'm in love. That's what Zion— she just had the baby.

That was for a baby. That's a different love.

No, I'm saying that's the moment she— that's how I know she was still in love, cuz she just had the baby. They were still together.

We saying heartbroken, fucked up. I know, man, it's bad, but that's what we talk— we speaking to. Like, not the in love is just a different— I'm happy shit is going right. We don't want to hear that. No, I think that when you got a woman and you talk about popping it and doing all those other things, now you in love, you got a baby on the way and all that to make that type of content is a little, you know what I'm saying, it's a little tough to be, yo, I split it, bust it open, nah, nah, nah, had a baby, love.

I think it's just about not making the whole records no more.

Yeah, I think that it's that.

But the same goes for men talking about fucking all these hoes and blah blah. Now you're a sucker for love ass album. I don't want to hear that.

Men can do shit like that, women can't.

Yeah, yeah, that's a double standard.

You know what I mean?

I don't think men—

with men is still believable even though we know this nigga chilling and he hung up his jersey, he be in the crib, it's still believable. With girls, you just can't do that.

Oh, if they're still— if we know they're in love in real life but he's still talking about fucking mad bitches, that's fine. He could be— I'm talking about the love album, rap album. It just never hits for me personally.

Did y'all not like the Carters either?

Who?

The Carters.

All right.

I like that album.

I like that album.

I like that album.

I like that album.

I like that album.

I like it.

I like that album.

But it wasn't— but again, we also—

it's the art.

I'm gonna use Joe for example.

Thanks.

Not a bad— this ain't a bad example. Well, majority of Joe's music, his fan base gravitated to him because of the struggles that he was going through. He wasn't in necessarily a good space, right?

Yeah.

Then he go and make No Love Lost, which was— even though it has some songs on, that was a more happier Joe album. And them hated that. It's just, we didn't buy into you to hear you in this space. That's what happened. Mary, that's what happened. A people, you fall in love with their music when they're here, and then once they get out of that, which you be happy for them that you made it out of it, but the music ain't reflecting it because it reflects where you are today.

I feel that.

So a lot of people— I've heard the same shit about Em, like, we liked you better when you were fucked up because it just sound— it was something different in the music.

And even though this may not be the healthiest shit to say either, but I'm going to I'm gonna say it. Sometimes with women falling in love, you could throw a couple darts at the board and guess what's gonna happen next with them. Like, women will fall in love and that person will be their life, and they're gonna stop seeing their friends, stop going to the studio, stop whatever they was doing over there. I'm over here with my man, my man, my man, my man, my man, my man, my man. To bring it full circle, until—

yeah, see, inevitable, right? The shit with Lotto squared back to her because we talked about her album. Um, we never saw this from her before, you know what I'm saying? We, we've only seen her be the, the— I want to say like nothing derogatory, but just the type of music she was making. We only saw that lane. Now this is all brand new, seeing you in love. Like, if this was her third relationship publicly or something and we could see the ups and downs, like, we understand a little bit more. A lot of people was like, all right, what the fuck is this?

I liked it. I like the change, and I like the old shit too.

I love the old shit. That was absolutely amazing. That's why we should get started.

That's part of my problem.

I compare you to yourself a lot. So especially if I loved your last work. Yeah, I'm— I have an expectation set, even though I shouldn't, because you could— you're in a totally different space than you were then. It's just natural. I, I still listen to her old album. So now you got a new project. Yes, it's like I want to hear some more of of that?

I might like 10 rap love songs ever in the history of rap music.

Really?

Yes.

Oh, I would love to challenge that with you right now.

Yeah, I think you got more than that.

Are you sure? Are you—

I'm not positive it's just 10, but it's not much more than this.

Yeah, but give us a real number that we could play a game with.

I like this.

I'll stick with 10. I don't give a fuck.

Come on. No, you sure? Yeah, I'm cool. All right, let him stay with 10.

Come on, let's do it. Miss Fat Booty.

Is that a love song?

Yes, yes, yes.

Okay, I allow it.

Renee.

Yeah, that's a sad song.

That's a—

your love—

that's a top song.

She died, he loved her.

He tells— take it off the list cuz it's too debatable.

Wait, everybody, cuz this is good.

I reminisce over my ghetto princess every day.

He's talking about—

he's selling the list off his dead girl.

She's dead.

Yo, he talked about— all right, let's, let's pin Renee for a minute.

No, no, no, no, all of this is good. We just need to, come on, we just need to hear each other. How long did Mr. Cheeks know Renee?

That's what I'm saying.

It don't matter.

Long enough to get to John Jay. He walked into the subway.

If you listen to Renee, he just met her. He just met her and followed her on the train. He's really stalking this bitch.

She liked him too.

She was like, "I like you too, nigga." They like persistence. All right, so do we vote that Renee is in or out?

I say no.

No.

Okay, we'll take it out.

I think we can get it without Renee.

All right, Meth and Mary.

Yes, of course.

Yes, absolutely.

The life.

Absolutely, of course.

Uh, Bonita Applebaum.

That is not no fucking love song.

Uh, that is a love song. Bonita Applebaum.

Hell no, ain't no love song.

Kim.

If someone dies in the song, it's not a fucking love song.

Kim is not a love song.

You give me Bonita Applebaum, right? Uh, yeah, I'll give you that.

Fuck it.

Okay.

Yeah, you being nice because I know I'm being nice.

It's not—

be nice works.

I'm with you.

You're right. It's a more of a lusty song than it's a fucking love song.

Find a Way.

What is it?

Find a Way. You caught my heart.

A lot of trap going on right now. You're gonna run out once you get out of here.

I got plenty of these.

Yeah, I got them too. Selfish.

Selfish.

Oh baby, I'm selfish.

I'm calling.

I can't help it.

Yeah, okay.

That one for sure.

Wait, wait, which one?

I Need Love.

I Need Love.

Wait, Love You Better.

Around the Way Girl too.

Around the Way Girl.

Yeah.

Okay, how about Come Close?

Around the Way Girl is an homage, it's not a love song. Y'all getting on my—

I'm not putting that in my top.

Like, it's a cool song. 21 Questions, is that a love song?

Okay, yeah, that's it. 21. Now we at 11.

There's a lot of iffy ones on this list.

I think we can get—

I think we could get into 22.

Mahogany, of course, of course.

I Need a Girl Part 1, that's more—

I Need a Girl Part 2, more R&B.

Wait, I Need a Girl Part 2?

No Parks.

That's more R&B.

Old 3 Bonnie and Clyde.

Wait a second.

You're done.

No, that's not a love song.

It's a love song, but I like it like that.

Yo, what part of I Need a Girl Part 2 is an R&B song?

A lot of these songs are not great, great songs where I'm putting them on on a regular basis.

I got an easy one for you. Uh, The Roots with Erykah Badu.

You got me.

You got me. Yeah.

Okay.

Mobb Deep, Hey Love.

And Break You Off.

That's one of the weirdest songs ever.

How about you? How about Break You Off?

Big social ones, like, uh, again, he going—

do I play these songs?

No, I don't fucking play this song.

How about Fab to Mia? I'm into you, I'm so into you.

That's more of an R&B song to me too.

How about Silent Treatment?

That's not— it's a breakup song more than it's a love song to me.

Park, y'all not counting—

I'm talking about happy—

I'm not talking about sad love songs. I'm talking about happy love songs.

That are rap, not R&B with a rap on it.

Rap. No, rap.

Wale, The Matrimony.

Great song. That's a good one, although that's a little R&B-ish too, but whatever, I'll, I'll allow it.

You fuck with any, you fuck with any Jean Gray?

Mark, please, right now. Not today, not today. She got 6 love songs. We love her, but not today. Okay, I'm talking about songs that I love, that you love.

Me and my chick Big.

Me and my chick.

She—

I don't say the B word.

Nah, me and my bitch got a love song, but she died. I consider that—

even prior to that, I'm just saying.

I'm not exactly calling me and my bitch a fucking love song.

Tupac don't have one.

Do for Love.

Meek. Dangerous.

Come on, dude.

No, that song is a joint. Uh, Dice Pineapple.

Fab, I Miss My Love.

Dice Pineapple. It's a good song. What's that?

Fab, I Miss My Love.

I don't have that one off the mental roll.

I'm just thinking Lover.

Well, we got him past 10.

Not really, you got me.

No, because he got so many, it's like debatables.

Y'all got Parks and Rec.

6 that I love.

That's what we were talking about. Yeah.

Oh, I think we got him. But anyway, uh, where were we?

Uh, new music, new music. Unless you want any more Lotto information.

No, I'm cool on all that. Congratulations Lotto 21. Yeah, love the video. Videos. Loved it. You guys are—

and it might be some heat on the rest of the album. I am gonna listen.

I'm gonna listen to it.

I just— the beginning part, it was too early. It just wasn't for me.

Listen, I'm back right now with my, uh, with an album review a week after album come out, because that's the best. Black—

that shit is tough, right?

That shit is ultra hard. Yeah, that Black shit. Wow. Yeah, I didn't know.

Black is my favorite of that, like, genre of rap, R&B, like the Tiller-y, all that lane. He's my favorite.

He's the conscious— he's conscious Bryson Tiller for me.

He's got a little bit of toxic with him too.

No, he's super toxic. Okay, but like Bryson, Bryson for me gonna get the hoes shaking ass. This nigga, we, we really might have to listen to what he's saying.

I think that he's just— I love Tiller too, but I think that he's just a little bit more— I like his vocals better. I think the production is more—

the production on this album is out of here. Uh-oh. He's 3 on the list. Dog, dog, this whole— you gotta just let this whole shit ride. And I didn't all the way love Black's, uh, previous project, so this was like a really good bounce back album to me from him. He got all the way in his bag. Let's go, Black! Hey, this is track 3, All That Mass. Writers.

This is last week. I thought this was track 2. This is the song I was They smoked everything about this.

The beat, the hook, the verses. Fucking good.

All right, he smoked this verse, but I do got to hear Leon. Hold up, hold up. Here we go.

Way to continue the hell of a run you on, Leon Thomas. It's almost like an R&B right now. You can't put no heat out if Leon Thomas ain't on it, and they know it.

They running right to him.

Hey, hey, wait a minute. Hey, I need the Leon Thomas SoundCloud version of this one. Hold up, man. Hold up, man.

Make me better, Fab and Neo.

Still R&B-ish to me, but Okay, let's let him go, let's let him go.

Track 4, Foot on My Neck. Let's go, Black. Real good album to just let rock for sure, be in the car during a ride, let it ride, let it ride.

Really no skips, there's no, uh, super drastic mood changes. There's one little rap song, but it's kind of towards the end.

Hold up, hold up.

I don't care if y'all tired of me. I don't care if Mona fall asleep when she ain't— when she ain't talking. I don't care. I'm just gonna play this little 2 Chainz record and then I'm done.

So play 3 of them, nigga.

Talk about good— come on now, talk about good music. Black, you did what the fuck you had to do on this project. Yep, she sound good. This record is called Sunday Again. Hey, it go!

What's this called?

This is called Sunday Again, but get the whole album, man. Get the whole album. It's really a great listen.

I like my breakfast with the bacon. No such thing as overstaying, baby making. No more playing. A lot of textures are we overlaying. If we is alike, well, I'm Man, I'm trying to run back. That shit was perfect and all that Kodak. Before this shit get better, it got to burn. I promise the lessons learned.

Try and let it go till Chains come on because he absolutely smoked this shit. Hey, hey. Yeah, I mean, they pulling the album up in here. Black, hey, let's go, James! Here it go. I want to touch it, really, I'm talking touchy-feely. I want to bust up in it, buy her a custom pendant. I mean, unfortunately, you not accustomed to a boss, so baby, don't resent me.

I got a predictions.

I'm addicted to your vibe, I don't need no prescription. You say it's Sunday morning, I say it's Saturday night because I still ain't sleeping. No matter where I go, I take my ego with me. Soon as I bust it down, I try to reload quickly. Let's go, J-Rod! So tall, I make it get on them tiptoes to kiss me. On Sunday we had shrimp grits and biscuits. Hey, this nigga's so descriptive in the verse, yo. He's different. He make you feel like you there when he right. Beautiful music. Beautiful music. Like I said, this shit is a smooth listen, man. Shout out to Black, you did your big one with this project. I'm glad, I'm glad I didn't just rush to it, uh, when it came out. Was able to sit with this, but this album is great.

It really It is. Uh, we did get some hip-hop. Uh, 38 Special got an 8 Shots, uh, which I mix, so I'll, you know, I don't want to get accused of payola, but it's great. It's got Meth on there, it's got Bust on there, Dave East, Ransom, Shay, the whole squad. And Freddie Gibbs dropped a 3-pack.

Yeah, he did.

RBT Rabbit.

Rabbit. Yeah, made it look like the SRT logo on the, um, on the hellcat.

That's what that is.

Okay.

Uh, 3 records: Immigrants, Rabbit Mode, and Action. And I like them all. I'm hoping for a full project.

Project soon, but it's a nice little 3-pack to keep us, uh, and it's some ratchet shit. Meg jumped on that, uh, Bossman D-Lo Motion Party remix. You're gonna hear it. And she did exactly— certain beats call for her. Yeah, I'm gonna keep it a buck. Certain beats, I swear, like, it's like they made the beat like, yo, at some point we have to get this to Meg.

And so she smoked, and she gonna do that. Yep, every time.

She did.

She got to keep beating Oh, good.

I was only gonna say word to Meg in the booty shorts. Remember when she first dropped, when she first came out, she did that freestyle with the booty shorts back when her titties were saggy? I love that Meg. I love saggy titty Meg.

I think everybody loved that Meg.

She's in a—

I like slim Meg.

I like both. I like all the Megs, but saggy titty Meg on that motherfucker rooftop.

I know what you're talking about.

Shit.

Um, not to keep beating a dead horse about this Caresha spending record, But has anybody come around yet? Anybody been—

no, no, I hate—

people are starting—

I hate when y'all on the wrong side.

I swear, I take your word. Like you said, fuck with it because the ladies fuck with it, so I'm with you.

No, that's enough for me. But hold up, I said that last, last week or last part.

Yeah.

And went out some more, and now I'm telling you, no, niggas is fucking with it. I'm telling y'all, I need to hear— like when that shit came on out, I seen niggas niggas start just going to grab money. And of course, you know where I was at, but that record being a cue— that's very important, niggas.

I could absolutely see this record working.

Yeah, it should work there.

You know what's upsetting? Because it sucks, and it's one of those songs that they play it a lot and there's nothing you could do about it. For a bona fide fact, that song is fucking trash. The bitch that Made It sucks at rapping. It's like, let's stop pretending like, oh, this is good. You hear it so much, it's locked in your brain. Everybody loves it. He's not wrong, everybody loves it, boys and girls. But most people I know that like it now, they didn't want to like it and it just happened.

That's how a record happens though. That's how a record happens. Some shit you can't escape.

And I'm telling you, and it'd be one of them. I'm telling you, as, as a songwriter and writer, he on you. No, no, I'm not trying to shit on you because that's your opinion. A lot of niggas gonna say that's whack, but the people that put that song together know how to make a song.

Oh, for sure.

That's all I'm saying.

Nigga been blowing up. Yo, yo, you gonna come around to it. Shout out to Lake. But he's been— every few, every couple— yo, you—

this is one, you know I know what I'm doing because you know what's funny.

Yes, yes, you could.

Yes, you could. If you got Mona, if you got with -established songwriters and producers that know what they're doing in the studio, they could do that for you. They can come up with a hit for you.

That's a fact.

Listen to me, yo, it's a blueprint. No, what I'm saying about that song— cut the hook off, because I've heard it as just a music bed also. Okay, cut the hook off, cut the words off, just let the beat play. Okay, the beat sound like sound like fucking— it sound like one of them Marvin Gaye beats. It sound like one of them Isley Brothers beats. It sound like one of those—

what song we talking about?

Even though I like the beat, I don't get that from it.

But that's why I don't like the song, because yeah, the beat is fire, and then what's done on the beat doesn't do it justice to me.

Are you talking about just the guitar?

Yeah.

Oh, okay. I was—

I said cut all the vocals on and just—

you say nothing about no drums.

You said the beat.

Yeah, but even the drums and the guitars, this is—

I've never noticed the guitar.

You can't keep running in and out of my life. This is mad songs I could think of. Just the beats, just the beat, just the beat, just a sample.

Unfortunately, what makes the song is the beat, lyrics, and the hook and everything else.

I don't think it's bad. It's just, it sounds like a strip club song.

I don't hate it, I just don't— it don't move me. It don't—

it—

yeah, yeah, I hate it.

I think what makes me hate it though is that it's like every trigger word for right now. Scammers. Because it's so corny.

But I guess it's made for a certain culture.

Okay, that's—

and they're going to love it.

And they—

I'm going to be singing it in 2 weeks.

It's 2 more weeks till I'm taking over.

Yeah, Mona, it's made for you, bitch.

Yeah, and I can see you doing your lick tongue.

I understand.

You should be going crazy.

You are the target. All Audience, you just got your ass done. Yo, your body looking right and you looking for one of the scamming. You throwing that pussy this summer. Yo, who do you think was in mind when the song was made?

It must be some weird shit with me. It must be some other shit. I'mma just let it go, cuz I really hate you. Like, it's going around.

Is it her? Put your arm— it might be her, cuz it sound like it's her. Put your arm up for me real quick.

Put your arm up.

Do this. Just do the shoulders with it. Just do the shoulders with it.

I can't I rap— play Pump It Up. Wow.

The other thing that's gonna make people come around to this is when other people start doing the Jaques to this. Oh yeah, not the remix with all the girls that they're gonna do, but when niggas start getting their hands on this and doing their version of it, you're gonna see what type of song it is.

You right now though, everybody's— everybody that I knew hated it loves it already today. As of today, everybody I know—

this is before— this is before the label did anything. They just had her go sit on a couple podcasts and they and they gave it to a couple people. They ain't done nothing yet.

It's a fact.

People love songs don't move this fast unless a lot of people are liking it, and a lot of people ain't fucking with her. It's the song. But anyway, I got more R&B, uh, that I want to play for y'all. Please. Yeah, gotta do this. Gotta do this. This record is called Break Me Off.

It goes— I'm telling you, I'm here for niggas with the Mark Nelson flip.

Old school, 15 minutes. Come on, man, you had to be there for that one. Let me go to the end.

This is hard.

This record is called Break Me Off. That is Amaria BB. It's in your phone right now. Sounds good. All right, now it's time for my— any, any more music? Any more music? Any more music?

Uh, no. Anderson Paak dropped a K-pop album, but I'm not going to play any.

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Mhm.

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I want Spurs, but the way the Spurs have been going for OKC in OKC. It's— I don't know if I can pick against it.

I'm taking OKC.

I'm going Spurs.

I want, I want the Spurs, but I think OKC wins. Home game, right? Yeah. And Wimby's been, you know, or homies playing great, but he was a little passive in the last road game.

I've been 50-50.

Yeah, I, I think it's, it's SGA's time to show up.

I think, yeah, I think we haven't seen a good SGA all series. I think that's because AJ Mitchell and Jalen Williams have been hurt. If AJ plays and he's healthy, I think OKC win. Um, if AJ not healthy, I think Spurs won because they got enough young people to throw at, um, Shea to keep him busy. Yes, they could. They got 24 fouls on him if they want between all the guards that they got to stick them, and I just don't see nobody else out there being aggressive enough to carry to load.

Knicks in 5 either way. I was about to say, Knicks in 5 either way. I'mma pick the Spurs in Game 7 against all of my better judgment because it's a young team, they never been there before. I'm only picking the Spurs because if I'm Adam Silver, that's what I want. I'm sending Scott Foster to Game 7. I'm sending Tony Brothers.

I'mma say shout out to Tony Brothers.

Shout out to Tony Brothers. I'm sending the hit squad reps over there. Yo, you're nuts. I'm sending my Game 7 ref all-stars. I got a chance to get the Spurs with all of that history and Texas and France. Yeah, against the Knicks in the finals. OKC, y'all won it last year, y'all were great. We gave SGA MVP again, we gave them all the calls all year and all series. Now is when we send in the hit squad and they go a different way. Because let me tell you something, when SGA don't get them calls, it's a different person. It is, it's a different team. All them other niggas start looking real Mortal look lost. Yeah, they start looking real beatable. I ain't gonna hold you. And when the Spurs bench get in there, I ain't gonna lie, they start looking real beatable. I got the Knicks in 5 either way. I'm not scared of none of these teams. I don't know what the rest of the world is seeing and what they talking about, but the Knicks, even with Mitchell Robinson's bad pinky, is getting this done.

I was thinking about that on the way.

We're getting this done.

How much money I'm gonna get back from you? I'm down $6,000 to you.

Uh, did you pay me the $1,000?

I did.

Yo, you really think y'all could beat them in 5 games?

Yeah.

Really? Yeah, I think the Knicks think so too. Yeah, they're playing with a different type of confidence. Mike Tyson said, hey, everybody gotta play until they get punched. What if you don't get punched?

We'll see, we'll find out. I think America gonna change their tune as soon as game 1 is over.

I like—

I see Knicks fans tweeting this out. I've seen Cash tweet Yo, that, that 20-0 run on the road that the Knicks open up Game 1 with is going to feel great. I feel like that. They going to see some shit they, they never just— it's going to be bad for somebody.

It's going to be great for me.

It's going to be bad for somebody. I'm not going to hold you. It is. We on that type of time.

I can't wait.

Uh, but we'll see. Uh, I just, I don't even want to see the Thunder and the refs and all of that.

Oh, you mean they getting these excuses, that Brunson treatment?

I've I've been saying this before the Knicks got there.

They gonna get that Brunson treatment.

Nah, it's different.

It is more—

it is different.

It is different, but Brunson gets it.

He does. He does.

Y'all could give— I don't care what nobody say, he gets the SGA. SGA out of 10, Brunson at an 8.5.

Brunson gets beat up a lot more too.

Yeah, at least Brunson plays physically so that like it kind of evens out a little bit. Shai just be getting fucking—

well, he don't get touched. He initiated a bunch of that contact, but it's cool. I just see this is on his way to being Wimby's league And he's gonna be there.

That's why the Knicks got to get ours now.

Yep.

Because Wimby about to run off. It's about 9 in a row, bro.

All of them are good.

Yeah, San Antonio has a good team, and as he grows, the rest of them just gonna get better. That shit gonna be unfair.

Oh shit, now you reminded me. Now I remember what I'm about to start complaining about before the series starts. Okay, and it's not— and it's not the SGA whistle.

Okay?

I think that if a coach is retired, then he should be retired. He should not be allowed in the locker room—

no shit—

on the plane watching film with these young people. Don't pop around now! Pop the fuck out of here! Hell no!

No, get Pablo got to investigate this fan.

I'm complaining about this.

I'm a fan. I'm a consultant.

We ain't seen this nigga no other time doing all his extra shit. And I love him. Pop is one of my favorite white people.

Yes, he's one of the—

but he also one of the best coaches. We do not need that. See, at least with they coach now, the Spurs, sometimes you could tell when he got a migraine. Sometimes you could look to the side and tell when he look a little confused, or when the service is bad and you can't text Pop on the— do the same thing.

You get Dave Frisdale or somebody to come through in the locker room.

Wow, wow.

Call, call, motherfucker.

This is not why Cle Anthony early risked his life over there at Cityscapes. He did not risk his life for Greg Popovich to be the one coaching the team when we make it back to the finals. You say whatever the hell—

English, boys.

We lose him on here.

I'm sorry, bro.

All right, what doc came?

Yo, 6'6" black niggas, that's rich. Pulled you back?

No, no, she ain't got none of them.

Exactly.

What the hell?

Why would that be?

You was supposed to say dope boy scammer.

Oh, pardon me.

And it's the thing, right? All that shit switch up once this ass get around internet. These clowns think I date street guys. Like, what, when I walk in here with Poindexter with the glasses and that shit got some IT shit going on? He a coder. What they call Mark? He a fucking analyst.

Yup.

Yeah, that's what you want to do. Systems analyst.

I'm telling you, I'mma text Mark. This nigga say he just— he do— Mark gonna be able to tell me. Okay, it's a go.

Listen, just all you got to do is say the word when that family start. When you start your family, what's—

see other OnlyFans?

Yeah, that's the other one. That's the low one. Family.

That's like the— like the—

y'all niggas know the bootleg OnlyFans?

It's just an alter alternative.

It's like Threads, but it's like Apple Music and Spotify.

It's like Threads.

They do the same shit.

I don't want to post pussy on the fucking cheaper OnlyFans.

Wow, you going to get there early, it don't matter.

No, no, fuck that. I don't want to do that, bro.

OnlyFans or nothing?

Yeah, I already told y'all to play Fupa Snacks.

There goes that plan.

That tongue will boys get to work. Yo, your tongue on your word. Look at him.

Don't worry about it.

Look at him.

Look at me.

I got it. You the one that said it. I know, so let me do it. Let me do it. You ain't got to jump right in like you— like back in the day. This ain't back in the day, nigga.

I like to wag his tongue too.

I know, but when I'm doing it, he tried to jump in on some of my shit. Tongue wagging.

No. Hey, you know why we love this? Can I tell them about what happened off camera yet?

Yes.

That's my whole dude beauty here. So we had a small discussion about, um, the fact that, you know, no, nothing crazy. It's just, son, every person that I bring up here on a weekly basis that everybody loves—

y'all are all starting to get into the Joe Button bag of storytelling where y'all just—

I always made half my story up prior to fucking with this nigga. Don't even do that.

I've been a liar.

I've been a liar. Okay, anyway, Anyway, so, and let her lie uninterrupted.

Damn, on me. Go ahead.

Um, no, but we had a discussion because only my brother-ish, the gorgeous one, would not— this goes right over his head. He doesn't get why you can't ask the pseudo-famous podcaster, comics, friends, or may be referred to as entourage, to do anything past pass me me that water, you know what I mean? It's automatic. And it's so crazy because the two people talking about— we talking about Big Joe lovingly calls her Big Juice. Big Juice is an entrepreneur.

Love Juice.

She did these nails. I mean, she—

I love Phelps too. Your crew, your crew is a podcaster.

Phelps is a producer. Phelps got a million bajillion songs. But it's like, it's something with that. I know it's probably a deeper meaning. I can't break it down Anyway, but it's something past ego. It's like so many times they'll come with me somewhere assuming they're just entourage and people are rude to them. That's really the truth, you know what I mean? Like people, people a little bored of people you with, they don't know that's your brother though, right?

So if you don't lay something down over you, the wrong one, that's another thing.

Rich or murderer. In my case, I'm more of having murder around on some calm shit, but it don't get it. Like, nah, that's too ego.

No.

And, and the bottom line is That's why they stole from me.

Damn people, what happened?

Well, basically he asked them to go to the store. They had a little back and forth about it. Ish asked your people, Phelps and Julius, to go to the store last week and make a little run for him, and he cracked jokes today.

He said he had no water in here. He asked him to go get him some water.

Oh God, Watergate continues. Yeah, he had to go get some fucking alcohol.

He was respectful though.

He said, y'all niggas love painting shit a certain way, right? So when I start doing it, I want everybody to shut up.

It's so much fun.

He finally getting— I be quiet when niggas start getting they Bob Ross on. I'll be chilling, fam. What happened was we didn't have no water here at the studio, so when I came in, I see that we didn't have no water. I took it upon myself to try and stock water for everybody here.

So, but don't you normally just like order water, right?

I don't have, um, he don't do none of that new hippity-hoppity shit.

Twitter threads or Facebook.

So what happened is— what happened was I asked my girl to order water, but it was going to take too long. We was literally empty with water here, the whole entire studio. So I wasn't doing it for me. No, so I wasn't doing it for me, I was doing it for us. I said, yo, dog, I asked them if they wouldn't mind going to the store. So I was like, y'all ain't trying to be funny or nothing, like, we just don't have no water, blah blah blah blah blah. I don't look at it as a big deal. Some people do. I think it was a big deal. What did you give him? Funny part was I gave him $100.

Did you get any change?

Zero.

Just learned your lesson, nigga.

Was you expecting change?

$100 for some water? I ain't think about it. Yeah, gas up.

He sent this nigga to the store. Hey Mark, a nigga from Philly, right?

That's, that's unreal.

That's, that's ridiculous. And that's the thing, he popped the shot about today, like, yo, your folks didn't even bring the change. It's like, nigga, they also went through your car, they opened your door, see if they was open, and took other little things. Why did you play with me like that, nigga? No matter what the back and forth is, what the conversation is, and it's the thing, I get the whole ego part. It's like, all seriousness, I get the ego part. And yes, if I was to come up here, right, y'all could send me to the store totally. It wouldn't even have been a back and forth, a little back and forth they had. But the fact that it go over your head that when you approach these people that's offensive is the ridiculous part. It's like, it's duh, come on, bro.

That's because it's just saying he wasn't trying to son nobody, he wasn't trying to little bro nobody, which I told— I don't think that's what his intention on that.

Nobody thinks that.

But if them your people and you don't have that relationship with them, you shouldn't be asking nobody's people to do nothing.

Fuck no.

Other people—

that's what we was saying.

Wait, wait, hold up, hold up. We talking about what we should and shouldn't ask other people, right? But where we come from, you probably kind of got to be careful asking one of your people that.

Yeah, sometimes, depending on your people.

You got to be careful asking another adult that where we come from. Yeah, because of how it can be.

They show up with you, that's your squad.

And that's, and that's the a joke. So I know he know that joke, but he—

but that's why he tried— he was like, yo, I'm not trying to be funny. No, listen, I'm not trying to— so don't take it that way. I'm confusing.

You want to be serious? I just want to joke. I don't care about the truth of the matter.

No, but my thing, I just— I just look at it differently. It's fine.

I—

the only thing I would say, I don't think he was trying to be— you can't expect him to change though.

He wasn't trying to be funny.

But no, you expecting a change back was funny though.

That's funny.

That's the fun—

that's not knowing.

These niggas is from Philly.

That's what I keep telling them. Why did you expect change?

No, no, but But wait, anybody that you send to the store, nobody's giving you change.

Nobody's walking up to you with the metal money in the bills in the bag.

It's not happening. How much did the water come to? That matters.

$20.

He don't fucking know because he ain't get no change.

$20.

How much water did they get?

$100, right?

They got two, uh, the, the cases, cases, uh, the, like the, the Fiji. No, they didn't. They got Fiji.

They got cases of Fiji.

They definitely were the cheapest ones.

Like, show us $25 roughly.

Yeah, you going to have to eat that change.

75, 4.

I would have gave him $50 and told him keep—

yeah, yeah, I would have gave you something, but I'm going to get— I'm get some change back.

That's— his first mistake was even pulling out the Benji. You tripping.

I agree.

Second mistake, giving it to Phelps. I don't give Phelps the Benji to grab the weed.

Phelps was like, we got one.

Thank you.

Got him.

He took out $75 for some weed.

I promise you he was offended. I prob— even after the laugh part, and we didn't talk about it, I knew that they had a conversation because I caught them cracking jokes about what happened earlier, and that's how I found out it even happened. But I know my homie. I guarantee you, off the initial walk-up, Phelps was like, nigga, what? I know it. You know how y'all say you don't know that friend? I don't ask Phelps to go to the store for me. Like, I just don't.

He's not that friend. Are you offended? Me?

Yeah, that he asked. Yeah, fuck no. Okay, I know it's— I know it's— don't have no mouth. I know it's really walking up not knowing not to do that. I know it's really on some like green-eyed, like, yo, you don't mind going to the store? He turned his back before he even realized that you need to see how they looking. Turn back around, they would have been mortified.

Like, that best thing to do is just go to Phelps and be like, yo, can you— can I use your Uber Eats?

And just give them the best thing to do, we go to your co-worker and ask, because everybody—

oh yeah, yeah, that's true, that's true.

Yeah, yeah.

We all got it. But no, that's the thing.

Ralph Lauren head to toe the other day. Do you— that ain't the nigga you asked to go to the store. A nigga that put thought into his outfit. Y'all know you feeling fresh to death.

He's on the jog.

He's on the jog. He said when niggas ask him to jog to the store, he don't mind it.

Oh shit.

Mark, I saw something on your story that had me absolutely dying of laughter.

Hm.

You, you put up something that said that you had been invited to be a guest principal at a school. That's—

I was principal for the day.

Just me imagining that. Oh, Super Fire Noble and all that bum shit. Um, all that bum shit. But as— but as soon as I pictured Mark as the stand-in principal, everything about that That was funny. My whole childhood came back and flashed before my eyes about when we used to see a Mark-ass nigga walking. It was a short nigga you thought you could beat. When we used to see the sub teacher or the— hey, knew what type of day it was going to be.

Yeah.

So then Mark posted pictures of him at the board and him sitting down speaking to the kids, and he had the nerve to pan to the kids. I, I screen recorded it in case Weequeg High School in Newark.

Wait, what'd you call it?

Weequeg. How you pronounce it?

Okay.

Yo, them kids look like—

don't have too many jokes now. Them kids, because they were talking about you when I went.

Oh shit.

They say, they say, where is Ice? They say he promises money for the prom and we ain't seen him since.

I haven't.

On my kids.

Yo, that is so loud. I don't know how to pronounce the school.

That's funny, son.

They say he said he'd be right back and they said they never heard from you again.

What is this?

She said it was tight. No, like 3 different teachers said that to me and the principal.

We quake.

We quake.

We quake.

Yeah.

Is that some new charter bullshit?

No, it's old school.

It's an Indian word.

Wait, so what was your job?

How did history class go? That's all I want to know.

Oh, he's a principal.

You don't do history classes.

I did, I did, I did guess—

You weren't going to let history fly in there?

I did guest lecture in the Spanish class. I did a little lesson in the Spanish class.

About what?

Okay, Spanish.

Spanish.

Spanish.

I was teaching them cognates. And then, um, yeah, I went around. It was a great, it was a great experience. I got to teach some Spanish. I went to the— I didn't go to history class because this is a super like in the hood, wonderful, beautiful school. The principal's a 5%er. When I walked in, he was like, peace God. And on the board it said, proper education always corrects errors.

I was like, oh Wait a minute, is it in the ghetto or ran ghetto-ly?

It's in the ghetto but not in the ghetto. It's in New York and it's—

oh, it's in Jersey.

It's in Jersey. New York, Jersey.

It's definitely the ghetto.

It's one of them. It's a great school, great teachers.

Like, they proud of it because they grew up there.

The history teacher was like, brother Akinyele, brother Akinyele, and they had Malcolm X up on the board.

And can I ask one question? Is that a school that's been around for a long time?

Yes.

So did y'all— one of y'all go, or one of your friends?

My mom graduated from there, but a bunch of my friends went there. My mom's graduated from there.

So that's how long it's been around.

Oh, okay. So what side of town do you have to be from Newark to go there? From Newark to go there?

Like the Weekaway section? The Weekaway section, which is a project. Yeah. No, no, it ain't projects. That's a better section.

I don't care about the history of the school. Yeah, I just want to hear about Mark.

And then— and I met some great teachers there. One of them knew you.

Really?

Yeah, he said he went to school with you, uh, and he said that the triple-double story is bullshit.

There we go.

Gil Reynolds from Laurenburg Prep.

Now he dropped his name.

That's the sound familiar.

Gil Reynolds is deceased. That was the coach. Rest in peace.

No, he told me his name. Oh, okay.

This guy told me Gil was the coach, basketball coach.

The coach's notes a little scribbly.

No, it's a good run. He told me he's— he, uh, he told me, tell you what's up. He said he went to Laurenburg prep with you?

Did you have a Ouija board? This told you— I can assure you that I believe he the coach is deceased.

All right, I'mma find out his name then, cuz he— I wrote down Gil.

He probably was saying Gil like that was our coach.

Maybe that's what he said, but he said, he said he, he was a baller there. He said he knew you and he said you were there cuz like you were in some trouble, but he, he said you were a great guy. He sees you all the time.

Mark had a paranormal experience. Some wild , bro.

Yeah, but he told a great story, but he sang your praises. He sang your praises.

I wish I knew who it was.

He sang your praises and he called you a liar cuz he said the Triple Double was a lie.

He did say that. He did say that.

Yeah, I bet.

It's okay. I asked— that's, you know, that's the first thing I asked when he said he went to school with you.

You—

I ask how many—

no, no, I did not know that. That is the first thing you ask somebody.

Somebody said—

that's the first thing I know about you from Laurinburg.

Somebody said I went to I went to school with Joe, that's not the first question I'm gonna ask him.

Which school, nigga?

I went to 9th Grade.

I went to both of them.

I'm in North Carolina and he said his name, he said Laurenburg Prep.

Yeah, shout out to Laurenburg, man.

I mean, and they love Ish. Ish actually is the one who arranged everything.

So what?

Yeah, go ahead, Ish.

Ish arranged for you to be the principal at Weekaway?

Well, what happened was that, yeah, yeah, she, she, she hit me up.

I'm asking you, nigga, don't brush your hair while I'm talking to you, nigga. Fuck it. He always trying to Look cute while I'm talking to this nigga, man.

Anyway, Mark, this sister hit me up. This sister hit me up and was like, uh, you know, Ish hit me and say, yo, my, my, my homegirl wants to, uh, wants to connect with you. They want you to be the graduation speaker. And then when I connected to be the graduation speaker, they said, hey, could you be principal for a day? And I was like, that's dope. We connected.

You just be doing shit, bro.

And then I saw about two— and then when we connected, I was like, yo, how— we just make a small talk. How long you know Ish? How long y'all been friends? She said, well, I've never actually met him in person. She said but we connected on Instagram.

Dog, the joke's writing itself.

It was right, it was right there.

No, no, no, no, no, no. This what, this what makes it dope.

Ain't no jokes.

She said, but, but he, but without meet, without meeting her in person, he still arranged for the prom.

That's fire.

For the kids to get their prom, their prom, what do you call, uh, prom suits and transportation. He paid for it. Like, just on the, just on the love that, just on the love. I thought it was dope.

I have questions.

I can see why you get your rent.

So you did that just to give back, cuz that was for free?

Oh, it was definitely for free.

You said you can see why I ain't get my rent.

Start saying no.

Yo, you can see—

yo, listen to your brain.

I can see why you ain't getting your rent. Listen to this . You got time to be on Instagram.

He literally took care of the prom last year.

I did a—

you said for the kids, ?

Yes.

Yeah, I like that about you. That was good.

I thought it was somebody you knew for a long time and you was doing a strip, but they didn't know. It was just some community service shit.

They don't even— they never even seen this podcast.

They have.

She's a big—

she's a big watcher. Oh, anybody— does anybody want to take a quick guess as to what Mark wore up there?

A suit.

I mean, with pads on the elbows.

Of course he wore a suit.

What do principals wear? I know you didn't go to school, but principals, that's what they do. I know yours, they wear uniforms. Orange. Yeah, exactly. And stun guns and shit. But no, the regular schools, yeah, that's what the principal wears.

Property of—

What kind of school did Joey go to? Alternative?

Oh, it was alternative.

What?

No, I didn't go to no damn alternative school. Let me clean up some of these jokes. I went to boarding school.

Oh, that's right.

I went to boarding school.

That's what they call it? Yeah, that's another name for it.

Yeah, you get on board that bus, they drive you, put on them shackles.

For kids that was bored. It's for kids that was bored in regular school.

Oh man.

Oh, that's what you—

that's how you—

anyway, Mark wore, you guessed it, a gray suit. Nobody else gets a kick out of that but me.

Gray suits?

No, Mark's gray suit.

I didn't see the gray suit.

Mark's gray suit is like Iron Man's outfit. Oh, it's one suit?

Yes, it's not.

Yes, he wear the same damn— oh, I'm not saying it's the same suit, but it's the same damn gray suit everywhere.

So he just, he just get out the shower, go like this.

He got a closet full of gray suits.

There's about 5 different—

he got a lot of gray suits.

Oh, I got like at least 8.

But for, but for like, he won't change his color palette. You look good in gray, boy. And look, he got the damn gray jeans on again. I think gray is his favorite color.

I'm telling you, my nigga love a gray jeans.

Gray and black.

Gray is his bag.

Hey, you know the black jeans to turn gray if you, if you wear them enough.

That's how he play both sides. Y'all missing it.

I respect the gray, but that's how he does it. Some other things he might do too.

The other thing that they asked for y'all at the school was—

they asked me—

they showed love to you. A couple people told me they love you, like love you, uh, especially the women. Um, they asked if I could get one of y'all to be principal for a day.

Me?

Oh. No.

Are you serious? Mark, can you tell him that me and Joel do it together? I'll be assistant principal, he'll be principal.

Let me get my answer out the way.

Let me eliminate the suspense from my answer. Why wouldn't you do it? Joel, while you was telling the story, the first thought that popped up in my head was, yo, I'm so glad Ish don't call my phone. Ish one of them niggas, yo, I got an opportunity for you. And it's something good.

It's fire.

And it's something good for the community, so you gotta do it.

No, nigga, I do all my school time with my wife's school, so I will decline.

And why you ain't coming here and tell us you was at Career Day?

He was at Career Day.

You didn't tell us.

Oh, you're right, it was right before the pod. I was tired, bro.

That shit—

oh, I saw you on the keyboards.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the picture that I saw, it looked like, like when white politicians try to get the black vote because it was a little black girl and her little pigtails was cocked because she played all day and Parks looking Like, you do have hope. It do.

You can do this, Keisha. You can be anything you want to be.

What the racist statistics is with this neighborhood, you too can be like me, Uncle Parks. He turned that camera.

Oh man, you are somebody.

You special.

You intelligent. You beautiful. Them kids ain't give a fuck about Parks. Not at all. Not at all. They didn't care.

Now, they were young. They were excited.

They Second grade, second grade, and fourth grade.

That grade don't care who come in there excited, something new.

But Rim was really happy. She was, she was really happy.

That's dope.

That's very dope. But that's another reason I won't go do career day.

Why?

Cuz I did a career day.

How'd it go?

My little, my little brothers. Yeah, my little brothers was—

I think you told us as a podcaster, as a rapper, or as a business—

podcaster.

You told us about it.

Yeah, I went up there to, to, to school in the Bronx. Shout out to whatever school that was. And I spoke in front of the kids and they didn't give one fuck.

Yo, you didn't feel good doing that.

The worst part of my career day, my homegirl Glenda was next to me and she works in like toy design and marketing.

She was a star.

I didn't stand no fucking chance. As soon as they hit the little bell, right over there.

What I'm saying to you, Ish, is if we having a real moment, yes, it feels good to accept those invitations if you're going here to do what you think you're gonna do, which is talk to the kids about your career, how you came from A to Z, how you grew a business, how you survived the mean streets and you could do something, make something of yourself. If you plan on doing all that, of course that feels good.

Remember I did the pod with the girls?

Hold up. So what I'm saying is I went in there career day, you thinking that's what you're doing. These kids don't give a fuck about your little success story or your job. So when you get to the end of your speech and they say, all right kids, anybody have a question you'd like to ask Mr. Push the button and I'm standing up there. Them questions was about all this other shit. So it's like, nah, I don't want to talk to you all about— they know when you got dissed, they know what grade— when an album flopped, the kids like, shut the fuck up, Janice!

What grade were the kids?

Crazy.

I'm curious.

Yeah, they must have been what, elementary high school? Uh, elementary.

That's why they're too young. Yeah, it's too young. High school, them kids— do you know how many kids we— oh, y'all know how many kids go through school? You know how many kids that, that answer changed? What do you want to be growing up? And now it's content creator, because their favorite content creator is 8 and this nigga made $7 billion.

You know what I mean?

I knew what I wanted to be until after high school even. So like a second grader, they don't get it.

It's a generic—

that's what I'm saying, it's too young.

Another doctor.

But that was the point I'm trying to make. High school right now would love to see successful content creator. That's their number one pick beyond a rapper or something like, like that, you know. Why?

Yes, a content creator, a young one.

Streamers is really—

yeah, yeah.

I don't know if they— if it hit the same if it's— no offense, Joe— especially, you know, a lot of young ones are drinking.

The kids didn't really know Joe Bun Podcast. To your point, when it— because they know the streamers, they kept introducing me as like the guy from the podcast. I was like, oh, you know, I have other things, you know, because I do you like that. Yeah, it's like this one of the two of the teachers was like, yeah, this is, this is, uh, Mark Lamont Hill from Joe Budden Podcast. So I was like, I'm a professor, you know, like, I think I'm here for this other shit.

Yeah, yo, yo, you're not.

But the kids didn't know.

You got hot up here, bro.

That's fair.

I don't know, you're seeing this shit.

Yeah, I mean, you Mark Lamont Hill.

Mark don't like to stop to that part. Hey, hey, dog, we know you accomplished a lot of shit on your resume. Yeah, but you got hot up here.

You got a real PhD.

Don't nobody—

real, real— they don't know all that other shit. That's the point. Like you said, we know that, like, them niggas don't know none of that shit.

Oh, they definitely didn't exist. But the kids didn't know JBP either. They were unmoved. The teachers loved it. They knew me from, from here. Kids had no idea who I was.

See, that's why— that's really why I went to do my little brother's school. The kids, y'all was good. Little but I wanted to shake hands and kiss babies with the teachers and the principals.

It was in the Bronx, right?

So that— yeah, so that my little brothers could get special treatment.

There you go.

Yeah, I wanted my little brothers to get special treatment.

I like it.

Let's move.

Oh, you trying to— oh, I'm slow. He's been shooting at me all part.

That's cool.

He's been shooting at me all part. Now I remember. That's cool. You think I would fuck a Bronx teacher?

She—

wait, what? How many?

It's just a yes or no question. It's just a yes or no question.

I said how many?

Oh, so the answer is yes to you. You think I would fuck a Bronx teacher?

Okay, again, another one. Callus said another one.

I never fucked a Bronx teacher. Why?

Yo, yo, yo, I wasn't even around.

No, that school was in Harlem. Oh, I was like uptown, man. It's a technicality.

Uptown.

She used to watch that. They be thinking uptown is the Bronx. It's cool, it's all right. Yeah, I only fuck one teacher up there.

It's all right, it's cool.

Shout out to the teachers, man.

Shout out to the teachers. All right, so I'm going to keep bugging you though, cuz that's your hood. I'm, I'm going to see if I can get you to come be principal for a day. It's not his hood, what you mean?

It's not his hood. That's my hood, yo.

I know, I got you. Next year.

Yeah, next year, I got you.

Appreciate you.

Shout out to all the schools.

Do we want to talk about Young M.A. saying that she She's not flipping women. Yes, she was on Shannon Sharp. Shannon's on a hell of a run. Shout out to him, my prize picks brother, my prize picks brother. Uh, Young and Made, we have a clip. You niggas always be looking at me to play something. Y'all play it. I'm sitting here, but don't look at me.

And I'm relaxing.

I got you guys covered. Thank you, man.

Y'all look at me to be responsible.

To be— oh, speaking of being responsible, this is what I learned about myself, or what I figured out about myself.

Anytime I'm responsible, I feel like I should be rewarded.

Yeah, this nigga's dead serious too.

That's too honest.

I figured that out the other day about me. Like, that's the dope shit about in your 40s, huh?

Why?

What do you mean why?

It's not self-rewarding. You should be rewarded. For being responsible?

No, it's not self-rewarding because normally when I'm responsible, somebody else's day is getting brighter. I ain't being— hey, when I'm being responsible, somebody else is having a time. So if I'm gonna keep being responsible and everybody get to have a time, then Daddy gotta have a time too. So that's all. What'd you do that irresponsible?

Well, which time? The time that made you come to this realization, fly shit, and you just feeling good about yourself?

I can't say what it was the other day.

Oh God, did I know?

Did I know what it was? I can't say what it was. I can't say what it was.

That might have not made somebody else's day better.

Yeah, like we talking.

And if you, if you do some shit for the kids in the, in, in the community that you grew up in, that makes you feel good. It's self-rewarding.

Oh no, I'mma go feel good when I'm finish that.

I know.

When I'm done with that, Daddy got to feel good too.

You gotta go teach somebody else something.

Listen, if you're doing all this good in the world— what Jeff Bezos said?

I don't know.

That's how you know it's wrong, right? When it starts with what Jeff Bezos said. Yo, them niggas that smarter than me, boy, they tore Jeff Bezos' ass up over that shit he said in that interview. They tore his ass apart.

Y'all be blowing me, cuz I ain't—

hey, listen, when somebody smarter than me get to talking, if it sound good, I'll— all I have is a bullshit reader, like my gut and my intuition. I just know when it's bullshit. I can't tell you why.

Discernment. Yeah, that's, that's like literally the most important reader.

They got on there saying that, all that shit Mark was saying, but with more attitude, with more— it was like Jeff only makes $80,000 a year and this is unrealized, and then the game's over here here, these not for me, no tax here.

It's like, oh shit, all right, all right, I got it, I got it, my bad.

All right, what we got?

We got Younger Mase.

Most women I've dated, yeah, was straight.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

You flipped them?

I mean, I wouldn't say flipped.

A lot of people get that misconception.

Help you out, help me out.

Women that I end up dating don't mean they fully— they just gay, right? No, they still like men.

They just have a— they just attracted to me.

Okay.

And that's it. And after me, they back on to me. Damn, that's it.

You know what I mean?

So a lot of people get that misconstrued. Yeah, like, but that's how I know, cuz the eyes. I, I got to, I got to see it in your eyes if you attracted to me.

But it's not a thing where— do you know before you actually say anything? The eyes.

Yeah. So it's not a situation they need to be gay or they need to be straight, X, Y, and I prefer straight. But you say you weren't going for that. You just said you weren't trying to flip nobody.

I'm not flipping them.

You flipping them. If they straight, hold on, if they straight, they've never been with a woman.

I'm a different type of person though. I'm not, I'm not like gay rapper-ish type, you know. I'm just me. Yeah, just me that loves women.

Yeah, but happen to be gay.

All that's true. Everything you said is absolute truth.

Please cut it off.

Yeah, please.

I don't know how y'all watch that shit or listen to it. He's on—

it was a great interview.

Great. But it's like all them— no, what you say? Goddamn, I can't take that shit. Like, that's the shit.

That's part of his— that's part of his stick. That's the shit.

It takes me back to civil rights. Either way, I do feel like that.

Goddamn.

Um, I do feel like she's being honest in her answer. And I feel like if Young M.A. would have really did the 'I'm a gay rapper,' she'd have been way more successful, right? But she— I know I have gay friends that are like, they're not going to go to a Pride event, they're not going to go to a gay event, you know what I mean? It's like they're, they're gay because that's what they're like, but they're not culturally gay, if that makes sense. You know what I'm saying?

I think it makes sense.

Some people make gay their fucking whole thing. Like, that's their whole thing. I'm gay, male or female. They make that their whole stitch. Like, with her, I think that she's being honest in those answers. And I think that I would love to fuck a bitch because I thought she was cute. I like that. A lot of lesbians make a mistake when they beg to think that they bag the straight girl and they really think she like pussy. She doesn't like pussy, she likes this, and that's what she's talking about. And I enjoy that. Like, I enjoyed that. So you lost with it? What?

I don't know where to go from there. Oh, Mark, please break it down to me.

I have no thoughts on that part. I think, I think Mona laid that out quite clearly. Um, I would say that this again feels like EJ territory.

It does a little bit, right?

Oh, I'm not about to do that with this. No, no, corny.

I, I don't think it's a bad thing. I, I don't— I'm with Shannon in a certain way, right? Like, you are who you are, and I think young Young MA is queer, certainly same-gender loving. I mean, I think that's just by definition. I'll let Young MA define themselves how they define themselves. That's not my business. But I do think that Young MA is doing the same thing that EJ was doing, which is saying that it's complicated, and that their ideas of gay and straight aren't just about biology, but like Duran Bernard says, about all this other stuff too.

The cultural shit.

The cultural shit that Mona's talking about. I think the thing that's interesting to me is even for me, it's still much easier for me to accept that from a woman, and that's my own shit. I acknowledge that. Like, I, I know a whole lot when women say, yeah, I'm not gay, I just like to get my pussy ate. I don't really think that much of it. Whereas if a dude says that, I definitely think, spend more time, uh, offering an analysis of that than I do when women say—

That's real, Mark.

It's honest.

From what I took from her, it just sound like she said she like curious women.

She curious.

That's a good word.

That's it.

She just sounds—

because she said, I know they don't be gay, they just be attracted to me, they've never been with a girl before. That sounds like some curiosity shit. And she finds out you're attracted, we try it, and then she say after me they go back to dudes. They don't become gay. So she's not turning them.

Maybe she ain't doing it.

She said— I'm just saying, she's not turning them.

When you say, Mark, I think you're, uh— I think that was interesting what you just said, because everybody knows bunch of women that think just like that, right? Oh, I can— I'm curious, I just get my pussy ate, but I'm not— those women were just your friends? Was it ever some that you dated?

Both.

Because when I have dated these women, that's when it became real important for us to get the same understanding as to what some of these things mean. What's your interpretation of it? What do you think that means that you can do, I can't do?

Like, so, yeah, some ground rules here.

Yeah, so it was important for me to figure out what— all right, what does it mean? We can't do the whole, hey, I was curious one night and I got my pussy ate and now I'm back to liking guys again. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

So can I ask y'all a question? Cuz I've heard guys lie a lot.

This is the kind of night we have it.

It might not be a we.

He didn't—

yeah, the we—

it wasn't a we.

Oh, you mean like—

got it.

Yes, got it.

Okay. And that's still a thing. Like, some girls will try to make it, well, that shouldn't— you shouldn't be mad at that.

That don't count.

Yeah, that don't count.

And that's super important because those girls will say, hey, we just going to hang out with the girl. They'll frame it as we just girls, but they doing the other stuff.

Yeah, I've had more— I've seen men more do the opposite of what Joe did just now and act like it doesn't matter. Like almost like, I don't care when she go fuck a bitch. Like, that don't bother as long as she— as far as a man that's dating a woman that's bi or a woman woman that likes pussy sometimes, right? So the fact that she goes out with her best friends and sometimes they end up scissoring it doesn't mean anything like I see guys give that response to life especially like on interviews and podcasts in reality then nigga would like legit lose it you know what I mean yeah but we're talking about again I've had this fight 1 million times no it's not—

No!

It's ego man!

The insecure part is: "I'm not in competition with other girls." Whereas if a nigga pop my dick or something... Chick, I feel some level of I could potentially lose my chick, or I'm in competition with the men. The nigga that lets the girl go out and fuck other— fuck with girls, they, they, they don't have no insecurity ties there.

Oh, I don't know.

I don't know. I think the nigga— I think it's the nigga ego, and he think at some point we going to flip him.

Or it's a nigga that's fucking other girls.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because then it wouldn't matter, right? You fuck who you fuck, I'mma fuck who I fuck. But if I'm faithful to you, right, you don't get a girl, and I'm not fucking other girls, right? Right. Yeah, yeah, I disagree. Chicks be wanting to pass, but facts, facts.

That's not cool.

And no, it's cool if, if I could go fuck another girl and we could come back like everything is hunky-dory, but that's not the case.

It's cool if that's y'all agreement. Joe is saying like if you could go fuck a chick and it's cool with me, then I should go— I should be able to go fuck a chick and it be cool with you. And that's not—

in my, in my experience, these women that I'm talking about are more overprotective of a guy with other girls because of their understanding and their relationship with girls. So they'll be doing whatever the fuck they want with girls and then get back with you and get to fussing and cussing and doing all of this shit. Nah, mama, we can't. This can't go there.

And they use it. That's just the bottom line.

But it shouldn't.

I feel like men are just not honest on camera about it. I think most men's reaction is that, because it's more the disloyalty and the lying thing. Because at some point you doing a little lying, being on the side. You don't come home from scissoring your homie that you go out with 3 times a year and say, babe, it got crazy. I mean, this bitch scissors in the car. You don't Don't do that. You tell her, him that later, and that's where the damage is done because now you're just a liar and a fucking cheater. It's not the same thing. On top of the fact it's still sex.

And can we just be really toxic here just because we having this bi girl talk? The bi girls, when you date, they lie more than the straight girls.

No, they ain't bitches.

The bi girls, the bi girls will try to keep you for 3 years and they girlfriend for 4 years and just have you thinking that's the fucking my first cousin or some shit.

The bi guys too.

Bye guys too. The bye guys too.

Well, I don't know about that.

I think the straight girls be lying too. I, I think everybody, everybody lie.

I think everybody—

I think bi girls be lying more.

It's a little like a little— it's a little loophole. You get to like—

you would too, because then bi girls also got like bi girl lines for every stage that this advances. Let's say the guy comes and has the conversation, all right? You buy what you like to do. I like to fuck around. Hey, how we— how we buy girls be like, all right, y'all can let— you can fuck with a girl and we can fuck with girls. I gotta pick them. All right, you a nigga, so you just happy to get an extra pussy. So you're like, all right, you know what, you go ahead and pick them. And then when it's their time to pick them, they pick— they picking shit that you never— they just never gonna fuck.

Uh-huh.

Bruce, like, yeah, what are we doing here? They pick Bruce. Yeah, that's funny though. It's a mess. It's a mess.

Please, please.

No, shut motherfucker. You trying to be funny. I wasn't. I wasn't.

I don't care.

I don't believe it.

Okay. Um, I think, I think some guys, uh, also let certain shit rock because there's still the threesome.

I just said that. Yeah, I just said that.

I apologize.

Niggas do that because he think the potential is at some point we gonna be able to—

Now I get it. That's what you get.

Whole time the other bitch hates men and dudes.

Yeah.

And she ain't planning on doing that anyway.

That ain't—

I think niggas just don't think that they can lose their chick to a chick. They can lose their chick to a dude.

That's a fact.

I'm telling you, that's why niggas look— they view them differently. I think men view that shit differently. Y'all got these chicks fucked up out here.

It's so— exactly, it's so many lesbians right now throwing shit at the TV because it's no— niggas hate zykes. I say it with a Z so it's not homophobic. They hate that. Like, they hate the whole, you know, like, I've— it's a running joke, like, no nobody— it's no better stepdad than one with two bras on, you know what I mean? Don't nobody take care of them children better than the bitch that dress like a man with the Manny Fresh fro. We talked about it. What I'm saying is that those lesbians, from what I hear, is like, niggas is real insecure, try to fight them, always popping on them, you know what I mean? It's a jealousy thing. They do it so much better, you know what I mean?

Well, I'm gonna say they do it better, but I will say that I think it becomes a competition over this idea of masculinity.

That's what I should say. They do it better for a person is not doing his fucking job.

Got you, got you, got you.

That's what I'm saying, for real. I— a lot of my gay friends that date straight people, whether it's male or female, I never understood it. It's like a life of heartbreak. I love the fact that Young Ma knows these bitches is just for the time. We having a good time, whether it's two summers or one. I know that this is not— we're not getting married. That's not what's going on here, you know. The only thing I disagree with when she said the funny part about— it was the funniest part when she was like, they go back to dick. They never leave the dick.

See, in your— in, in your brain, is that possible?

What?

Cuz that's where it can get blurry a little bit, right? Some people think, all right, if you have had a same-sex experience, if you open to doing it, then you're that— you're gay, you're bi, whatever.

I think that's old school way of thinking.

Yeah, that's old school.

So you think you can have a gay experience and then just go right back to, to straight?

I think people—

I think it's a cultural thing. I think it's a lifestyle thing more so than a— it's like the same thing EJ said, same thing she's saying, same thing Derea said, same thing she— Mona just said. I think it's a cultural thing and not necessarily just a biology sex thing.

It's just more accepted when girls do it. When guys do it, it's like, hell no.

You said it better than the way I'm about to say it.

I have said— I have— I went viral years ago for saying if I met a guy and I liked him and I liked his vibe, right, Parks?

Yeah.

He was generous and sweet and kind and he had the girth, not the length. You know, we talk— you know what I like. You know the type of dicks I like Burks, right? I said that if he told me in college he had experience with a man and a man sucked his dick in college but he's not gay, I would have— I can understand that. I can appreciate that over, over the other, the other version, right? And that's exactly what that is.

It's like, could you date him?

Yeah, I don't think that would stop me from dating them. And I went viral for saying that. And the reason why I went viral, because people like— when in reality it's this for men. How many times have y'all met a bitch that got her pussy ate or ate her pussy? It's so normal. It's such thing. The bigger point that I'm making when I say that is that I appreciate the honesty and that he knows himself to a certain extent. Because what I believe is that a lot of niggas got they dick sucked by men. They just don't fucking tell anybody.

No, that's not what I was raising my hand to ask you a question.

And a girl is involved, they always take it to hell.

I ain't taking it to hell.

I want to ask you a question though.

That dude, the one that you said, you know, he took it to hell. Told you whatever happened before and now you can date him, you appreciate the honesty. How you talk to him if y'all arguing and you mad at him?

This is the thing, Ice, because what I really said was, what I really said was, was that if I meet him and I like him, I like everything about him, he's honest about that, I'm not stopping our situation.

I got that.

And no, when we argue, I don't say, that's why that nigga sucked your dick in college. Like, no, I'm not going there. Okay, I'm also not the one that, oh, I put my finger your ass. If we try some freaky shit and we get an argument, I said, well, I put my H hands up. I don't do that either, you know. I know I appear like super whatever, but I think that's whack to wait till the guy tell you that, oh, it broke my heart, my father left me, never came. That's why your daddy don't love you, nigga.

Never did it.

Didn't do it when I was 20. Like, it's just—

can I ask you one more question? Weird.

One with a pussy should shoot off, you know. That's why I get—

all right, I'm the only one in your What if that same guy, the guy who said he got his dick sucked once in college, what if instead of saying that he told you he sucked a dick once in college?

Now that's why I don't like talking to smarter people. I don't like talking to people that's funnier than me or smarter, and this nigga teeters the line on both. Um, sit the fuck back, put your back to the couch, because I ain't even look at you, but my periphery, that green is burning my side of my face. Can you please I also went viral for saying this and I got in trouble, so let's say it again. I will, I will. And I got in trouble for saying it, and I'm gonna say it again.

She's taking a long route, don't worry about it.

I said that I could fuck with a nigga that was a top, but I couldn't fuck with a bottom, and they said I was a bottom shamer. But that goes along with the same thing. Yes, it is different if I know he sucked the dick versus getting his dick sucked. It is different. It's corny, I'm just being honest. Yes, it's different.

I appreciate the honesty. Tell me why.

Because, man, come on. You can't be sucking on no dick.

Don't dab me on this shit.

Dabbing in this shit. It's obvious.

You know why? It's obvious reasons. It's just, it's, um, because you could say a bigger word that's better. It's just like, it's beyond cultural stuff. It's just how we kind of come up and how the same way why the F word. Exactly. It's from homophobia. The same reason why it was so hard for me to drop the F-word out of my material and stuff. I did it anyway after having that experience with a supporter and they told me it felt the same. Somebody told me that it felt the same when somebody chased them home calling them a nigga and when they called them the F-word. That's why I stopped using it, right? I've never called a gay person the F-word. I call my baby dad an F-word or I call the guy in traffic an F-word, right? But that, the fact that that's a diss is the same reason why in my mind, I can't fuck with a nigga that was a bottom or a nigga that sucked a dick. It's homophobic.

I gotta say, your ability to repeat the exact thing that offended a large group of people in the longest way possible on a bigger platform is even crazy. That's dope. That's a talent.

There's my feelings. I'm not saying nothing.

Did that answer your question, Mark?

Yeah, yeah, it doesn't. I mean, I, I can hear around it because to me some of that is about— it's not, it's not just homophobia, it's just a little a little bit of misogyny in there, right?

Yes, it is.

Because some of it is about you're more like a woman, right? Like, if you got your dick sucked, I can live with you, but if you're doing the dick sucking, then you're less of a man. And if you're less of a man, you're more like a woman. I mean, there's a whole way to think about that that I think might be part of it too. It's hard to see him as a man if, you know, he's, you know, tooting it up or, or whatever the thing is.

If he's not doing the bending, that's my last thing for real.

Yeah, and that's what I said. I think that's how a lot of you— I have no judgment about it. I Just curious because of what you said.

And you know what sucks, guys? Damn, I forgot I was done talking. It sucks that like people won't get the honesty out of that. And the fact that I feel like the community that I'm from, the Black community, is harder to come out in that community for so many reasons. So it's like, why not seeing that, that I'm more promoting be honest with yourself and know yourself? Why isn't it open the same way? I prefer a dark-skinned nigga with waves don't mean I'm not gonna talk to a yellow nigga with green eyes that could pass for like a dyke.

He in his phone, girl. He not listening to you.

I'm not in my phone.

He heard me though.

He always hear you. He'd be ready.

Shut up.

Y'all don't get what I'm saying though. I hate that y'all just be—

We understand.

No, I get it.

We get it. No, fact. Everybody get it.

I'm not saying nothing else.

Okay, great.

I promise.

Mark, you ain't supposed to have that shirt on.

What?

What?

James Brown?

Oh, the stories.

James Brown was rough on the bitch, wasn't he?

Mark is throwing me off with this shirt on. Mark, nigga, you ain't— you ain't hurt.

Boy, they need to have the James Brown Academy. Y'all hear what he did to Tammy?

I said goddamn, Mark, what are you doing with that shirt on, dog. Not you.

Is it Tamar?

Shit, nigga made an exception.

What's her name?

We got to excuse Jamie.

Jamie is Marvin Gaye's wife.

No, but I think James Brown did. James Brown knocked Tamar's teeth out.

Yeah, he knocked her teeth out.

This the main word in my knowledge.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mar.

Yeah, it's a good point.

I hadn't thought about it before. I won't wear it again. That's a good point.

You're right, boy.

You done turned that black gray.

You wore it enough.

Oh, it's just—

okay, I wore that shit a bunch.

No, I wore it today.

You can wear your stuff as much as you want, Mark.

Yeah, and shout out to the company that makes— they make these great vintage shirts.

Nah, we don't—

they making shirts of abusers. That's a good— it's a good point.

That's a really good point.

I won't do that no more. Dog, James Brown. Mark, Mark, why you don't just say— it's right there. Why you don't say— come on, it's right there.

Shut the fuck up, Janice.

Yeah, basically, basically. Oh, that came deep down from Mark. Mark down, y'all.

Mark's wanted to say that.

Mark is down. Mark is down.

We excuse—

Mark excuses James and maybe some other people.

Look, I'll tell you something. You can't listen to music or anything if you hold people to a certain standard.

That's a fact.

That's what we've been saying.

I, I've always said— I never disagree with that, but I wouldn't wear the t-shirt on purpose. And I'm saying I didn't think about— I didn't I never thought about it before. You raised a good point.

I'm wrong.

I'm accountable for it.

I won't wear it again. Take that shit off. Why you still got it?

Okay, Joe, relax. He said in college. That's it.

James was— James was rough. Did you ever read that long-ass shit?

There was a long shit that came out. It was like pages of—

James was rough.

James was rough. Of like, like people start blaming the people with them, like why y'all ain't help nobody. But James was wrong.

James had a gun on him. They was shocking us at all times. He was shooting niggas.

And James was abusive to everybody. I mean, of course it was worse the person he laid with, but the band— you see, you ever hear how he treated his band? Yeah, how he paid them and penalized them and took dollars to pay. Yeah, bro, you burp, you lost $2 for the burp.

Do it on beat.

You better do it on beat.

You better.

Yeah, another one that we know about out, but write it off. Who else we write off?

Miles Davis. There's a few that you just are so hard, you just gotta kind of—

Rick James, I kind of—

it's like, oh no, Rick was rough.

Yeah, yeah, he wasn't himself.

Smoking that coke would do that to you.

I'm smoking that too.

Yeah, him too.

Oh yeah, shit, Smokey too.

Damn, Smokey.

Yeah.

Smoky.

I should have been around back then.

What happened with Smoky? Is this shit still pending?

That's a good question, yo, cuz that shit kind of disappeared.

Like, he got a lot of money. Smoky got a lot of bread.

He dropping like deluxe albums.

They just gang banging.

Turns out—

oh, come on, come on, dog. How many cleaning companies do you need?

You saw that?

Oh my Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. All that we said, we still ain't heard a peep about Nancy Guthrie.

Oh my God.

Oh yeah, damn, I forgot about it.

I hope they find what happened.

He's about to lie.

I hope we can get to the truth.

I hope they find her soon.

Y'all know damn well ain't no her.

Oh, it's her.

They'll find out where she is.

We've been saying that, Mona, from day one.

She's out of here.

Sadly, she's, she's—

I'm not finding no remains.

I'm so sorry, Mona ain't doing the sadly part, right?

Sadly.

There we go.

We are so saddened by the news, and we also saddened by Mona and I having hope.

Yeah, no, she's—

our prayers are with you.

Oh, Mona, tell them about Um, um, the shit from that doc you was talking about. Oh yeah, yeah, the crash. That's a joke, bitch! Are you crazy? You will never discuss another doc on this podcast ever again. Your doc report is over. The monolog, you're done.

It's on the BTS, I think.

Yeah, yeah, it was so— it was so— ready?

Yo, it's gonna be a sticker. It's gonna be stickers with just moving around. It's going to be GIFs and stickers. Thanks, Joe Button. She said, oh no, guys, guys, the most important— no, fuck that, you shouldn't have did it. No, Mona and Dom were texting about Black people. They were racist.

And there you have it.

Wasn't worth it.

Don't y'all ask— you mother— hey, y'all, I'm going somewhere. Y'all, I spoke to—

we're doing Docs with the Mona. Why can't we do Docs with the Mona? Is never going to grow to be what it It could be Parks if y'all don't let me try.

I think we should do it. I think we should do it.

I think we should do a full show.

It's so crazy that I never could tell if these people are being serious or they're not.

I don't know. No, no, I like it.

We should do it on Thursdays.

Yeah. You know what's crazy? It's crazy if I come here with a bat and I bust up some knees in this motherfucker. That'd be crazy.

That's some Jace Brown shit, right?

It would be so crazy if I came here with a bat and hit some of these older knees in here. Y'all need to stop playing with me.

I had a segue that I was going to do.

Fuck that.

She seems so disappointed she can't do it.

He really wooed it. Come on. Have a heart.

That was crazy. She was ready to—

Ah!

Yeah, no, I'm sorry. We love you, Momo.

Some people enjoyed it.

That is true. It's true. Mar, go ahead.

We were doing Young and Made gay stuff, and then I saw on the board, Gayle isn't gay.

Oh, uh-huh.

And I didn't know what that meant.

It meant cat.

King? Gayle King went on Call Her Daddy's podcast. Gail.

Yes.

Okay. Oh, I didn't see that clip. Okay.

Yeah. And, uh, Call Her Daddy, uh, Alex asked her about the rumors with her and Oprah, you know, and Gail just took the time to set the record straight on how that's not true, untrue. She's straight, prefers dick. She did say prefers dick. Oh, uh, prefers men, not dick. Oh, uh, and she said how those rumors, uh, started— when those rumors started, started, they caused her a lot of emotional distress, and it made her time on the dating scene much harder.

Really?

Yeah.

In what way, Joy?

Let me find the clip since y'all think—

I heard, I heard the clip about the cheating. That's the one that I heard from that interview. What she said in that one? Uh, she's— she was just talking about her husband, finding out her husband cheated on her with a friend, uh, and the husband put out an apology statement statement, even though it happened decades ago. He put out an apology statement again, apologizing for friends— to the friends, to the family, to the kids, to the grandkids, just saying I'm sorry for what I did and the hurt I caused, which I thought was interesting. I respect—

I can see why he did it.

He ain't wrong. I would have done the same thing. It's just—

see why he did it.

But I also know, like, if you cheated in 1986, but now it's—

now it's being brought up again, a lot of people might not have known, a lot of new attention. Yeah, this culture we live in. Let me just address it.

Pay if you want to pay it. He would have been wrong not to address it either, cuz he addressed it in writing himself a decade earlier. So I think he had already paid his debt and given his pound of flesh, but I think doing it again was noble.

Yeah, I'm not mad at it.

But I didn't hear this gay— I didn't hear this gay, uh—

yeah, let's hear this one, please.

Uh, here, I got it. You got it?

Yeah, thanks.

You did.

You've been on point with the clips, Mark.

Ain't bad. Someone got—

somebody's got to be.

But they are like, there's no way this isn't a romantic relationship. I know, I know, I know. I just—

I, I don't even want to speak for you, but like, tell me how that feels when you guys have had to handle those headlines, handle those rumors, handle that speculation.

Well, I tell you this, it used to really bother me. I was recently divorced and there was— the National Enquirer did a story about that's the reason for the divorce because there's secretly gay. Number one, if we were gay, we would tell you, because believe me, there's nothing wrong with it. It's just I prefer a man. Come back for a minute. So, so we would tell you. And then I would say to her, you've got to say something on your show, because it's hard enough for me to get a date on a Saturday night, and now people think I'm a lesbian. You've got to say something. And she said, no, we should just leave it be. I said, no, you've got to say— she, she said, no, No, just leave it alone. Leave it alone. So, well, that's fine for you to say. You have somebody. I don't.

No joke, man.

So it used to really bother me, and now even today there's still people that say, well, you know, the truth is— I don't care. I've now gotten to the point in my life that very few things get to me because, you know, when you go on social media, it is an accelerator on hate. As long as I feel good about what I'm doing. The people I respect and trust are okay with it, who will say, well, Mom, maybe you shouldn't have done that, or somebody who's— somebody whose opinion I value. Otherwise you'll drive yourself nuts. So now I really don't care. I really don't. I am sorry though that you have to deal with that, because I also just feel like that is a clear indicator— the people who are saying that, there's two options. Number one, they have never had a genuine gorgeous female friendship in their life.

But do you know what I mean?

And then the other one is, again, it's for the salaciousness, and it's so sexist, and it's so—

it's, it's just horrible that they put you in that position.

But it is also a weird thing. And again, I guess we always should just listen to Oprah, but it's like when to speak up and when not to, right?

Thank you, Alex. Distinguished panel. Distinguished panel.

That's, that's Mark. I'm I'm, I'm, no one else is distinguished.

I'm hesitating because I know, I know Gail pretty well. Not like super tight or anything like that, but well enough. I've had this conversation with her before. Okay. Um, I, I—

this nigga knows Gail pretty—

had this conversation before.

They talked about this.

Not— I mean, it came up in the context of an interview, not like in the context— not like we weren't gabbing on the phone and she was— she'd expressed this before.

You don't know Gail.

That's what I keep What are you saying about Mark? Mark don't know these people.

Yeah, she—

we—

she making it up.

That's all. Go ahead, though.

Where'd y'all fly?

South Africa together. From South Africa together.

When was it?

What season?

When Nelson Mandela died. We came back from the funeral together. We got to talk for a long time. And so I have a sense of how she sees these things a little bit. But I believe her. I don't think Gayle is gay. As sure as you can be about something, right? I trust— I take her word for it that she would say it if she was. I don't think they're homophobic. Homophobic. I think though the thing that people can't understand and that throws people off, and they talk about this in Oprah's biography or unauthorized biography, is they have such a tight bond and their love for each other is so strong that it's actually probably stronger than a lot of relationships that they have with men. And I think people are confused by that. Like, why aren't you prioritizing men more? I think they would choose each other, not romantically or sexually, but they would choose each other over maybe even the men in their lives. That's my assessment. She didn't say that, but that's my assessment. Of it. And I think that's what throws people off.

I think that, of course, I'm being cheeky even when I say cap, like I'm kidding. At the end of the day, I hate that, like, you almost, almost like I grew up with they date because it's already been put out.

Yeah.

Now whether it was put out by competition back then, Oprah killing on daytime, so we're gonna, you know, now that I know how things work, it sucks that it's some things are just imprinted in your brain because it's imprinted in my brain that they go together. It's a paid for person or it's not real or whatever. Whatever. And I know for a fact what it feels like to have an intimate relationship with a woman that I do not have sex with that is so important to me. I've never got a boyfriend or nobody I dated name tattooed me, but I've had my besties tattooed on me.

That's what I'm saying.

And I understand niggas can't make sense of it.

It's hard to make sense of that.

I don't—

there, the relationships, even down to the heartbreak that I've had from a bestie, I've never had from a man. Man never hurt my feelings like my bestie has. No bullshit.

There is one more piece to this though that I think we can can't ignore, or we could, maybe we shouldn't, is Whitney Houston, right? There are other examples where the relationship does, according to Robin, um, if you read her book, she talks about it in great detail.

Yeah, she does.

Um, where the relationship is more than platonic. And so in Hollywood, before we had all the social media, all you heard with all the tabloids, National Enquirer, all that shit, was everybody's gay, everybody's best friend is gay, everybody's gay with their friends. And some of them were true, some of them weren't. And I think they all got lumped into that mix too. And once you heard one of them is true, then you start thinking, oh shit, maybe everybody's fucking.

Well, we just said earlier when we were talking about Dubai girl that, uh, the Dubai women will hide their longstanding girlfriend as just a regular part of their life. So that exists, one. And right, two, we all believe that Oprah has enough money that when we imagine her home with just like a good group of girlfriends friends if she want a pussy ate, and she say, yo, straight friend, do me a favor, lick this spot right here for the next 10 minutes. I— we just see that happening.

That, that's what I was more so looking at.

And if you love your girlfriend the way y'all saying, why wouldn't you go?

We done had a couple conversations now with somebody fucking with the same sex but still saying straight.

That's true too. Like, well, that was my problem with what she said, uh, because I believe believe her too, because I have no reason not to believe her and take people at their word. But if people are heterosexual, then saying I prefer dick throws me off.

Me too. Prefer is an interesting word.

I would never say I prefer— I prefer pussy, because it gives that you had it, right? It gives that in the event that it's not— it's not around.

Like, I prefer butter pecans, but you got strawberry.

Yeah, exactly. That was an interesting choice of word, uh, for me.

She said, I like—

she could see—

she said, I prefer—

I think that really—

I prefer men.

I don't think she meant anything by it, but I see how you could read it.

I just think it's a lot of people— this is entirely up to them, you know, we don't get to judge anybody, whatever. I think a lot of people may dabble, however, and still identify as this. I think that a lot that is happening. So maybe to her, you know, I'm not gay, but I'm taking Freeze's word.

Freeze the expert in this shit.

No, no, he's not the expert.

You the fucking expert. Excuse me, nigga. Excuse me, fucking dyke.

You the one that was bisexual.

I did read that on the internet.

Huh?

Huh?

They say Ice is a stud in his secret life. Call that nigga. Okay. Dyke Bivens.

Got it.

What?

You know what?

Nope, I'm shutting up.

Yeah, I think all the gay topics should just stop coming to this part. I don't know why. Mark be bringing all shits up like we the place that nigga talk to.

Nigga, I didn't write gay isn't gay on the board. I didn't know what the fuck the story was.

Also, you know what I want to say, fellas? I think I can And I appreciate too when you— I like that you brought up Robyn and Whitney because there also was rumors of Robyn and Bobby not getting around, not getting along. Whitney's whole family hating Robyn. That fits the narrative that this might be some gay shit going on because Whitney comes from that Christian background.

Her mom said, I would rather my daughter be something than gay. Like, she did not want her daughter to be gay.

Exactly. So, well, how many times have we heard anything like that with Gayle and Oprah? That Gayle and Stedman hate each other, you know what I mean? It's not even any proof in the pudding when you think about it.

But is Stedman allowed to hate things.

No, nigga, but that don't mean that it's not taking place, cuz it's not—

oh, but we—

I'm not saying it's not taking place. I'm saying it would make more sense how Robin and Whitney— if it trickles down that Robin and Bobby are about to fist fight, people see that, people talk about that. That's not like something that nobody knows, right?

But over here, saying Oprah's good graces— I'm about to say we can have understanding over here too, y'all.

It's going over y'all head, okay? Yeah, it is. I'm saying there would be be some other thing to go with that. But beyond that Oprah super rich, it would be at least one—

I wouldn't even say super rich. I'm not saying nothing about the money. I'm saying we have an understanding here. I mean, all of us are on the same accord. We know what's going on, we know what's going on, and we present this way. It ain't nobody else's business. That ain't got nothing to do with money. Just we all— y'all people are— people in open relationships that are poly and all of that shit, we know what's going on. Think what y'all want, we know what it is. And, dog, we talking about Oprah Winfrey. Like, I think Oprah gave Gayle her first million dollars so that she could realize what it feel like to be a millionaire back in the day. Like, Gayle King wasn't the Gayle King that she is today back then. Again, Stedman, I've heard he's an amazing entrepreneurial businessman.

If she got something in return, it's called something else.

I don't know if— I don't know if Stedman was the Stedman that he is today back then. So if Oprah Winfrey could have been running her house like it was a motherfucking— you know what time it is— the ISIS point. So yo, we doing what we doing, the media don't got to know what we doing. Everybody not running this a sloppy shop where if Stedman and Gayle hated each other's guts, the world don't have to know that. There's not going to be a sign.

That's true.

And it's not just— people don't think what they think solely because of Gayle and Oprah's relationship too. Gayle, you want to fix this, pop out with a nigga.

Joe, she's dated niggas and she was married for a long time.

Do— does the public know about all these niggas yet, or any of the niggas?

I mean, they knew her ex-husband. He just came out, he just wrote a thing yesterday about the cheating.

I don't know her ex-husband.

That's Kirby's dad.

When you in certain circles, my nigga, the world— we not in TMZ age, or I'm not 27 years old. These people are older, they more established, they My circle is tight-knit. Who I'm fucking is never gonna get public.

I'm saying it should get public. I'm saying it should get public. If you, if you've been struggling and your mental health is bad because people have been assuming that you were gay, then nigga, go to Wet Willys with a joint like the rest of us do.

I think that's why she did that swimsuit cover. I think that's why she did it, partly was to show herself in a sexual manner, thank you, feminine manner, to remind people like, hey, I'm here. That I'm available.

Gil, you, you are beautiful in every single way.

We love you.

We absolutely love you. We love you down. And that's all I got on that. I'm minding my business in terms of what people— and I don't care. We just spent the last 25 minutes at all.

I'm with you.

Tell me about the one-armed police officer dude or some shit.

This is one of my favorite stories of the year.

I don't have any idea about what this is.

This is one of my favorite stories of the year. By far.

Let me hear it.

Police gotta play the clip.

We gotta play the clip. Actually, let me, let's play the clip. Let me listen.

You play the clip, guys.

It was a quote-unquote routine traffic stop.

Hello, ma'am.

Hey, good morning.

I'm Enrique Salazar with the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office. This is why you're being pulled over. The City of Lake Worth today, we're doing an operation for distracted driving, and you drove past me holding the phone with your right hand, manipulating that phone. I mean, I saw you.

Oh, you want to just call this a day? I don't want to call a day.

You had a hand up manipulating.

You just said my right hand.

Well, I thought I told you without hand.

You had hand up the right hand. I told you manipulate with the right hand.

Perhaps not.

If you can't see this, when she says obviously not, she's showing her right hand, which is cut off.

I know what I just said.

I know what I said. I'm asking you now, did you, did you or not have your phone in your hand?

I did not.

You did not have your phone in your hand?

Hand to God, you did not have phone in your hand?

Oh my God. Holy shit.

This is where accountability and some of that bullshit come into play. He says specifically, ma'am, you had your phone in your right hand. She sticks up a nub and says, yo, dog, you want to call us a day? Like, go get back in your fucking car.

He could have bowed out right there.

He could have bowed out right there and he didn't.

He goes back to the car and writes her a ticket for driving driving with a phone in her hand and then says, you can fight it if you want. She's like, but you said I had it in my right hand. And she pulls the little chicken nugget again. It's like, look, this— I could not have been doing this.

And he said, you gonna say you ain't have a phone in your hand? I don't have a hand to have a phone.

And I was clearly driving a car. So what, like, you got a car?

So what, I was driving with my niece?

And I like, I like what you said, it's about accountability, because she wasn't even nasty.

She wasn't nasty at all.

Like, I could see if she she was nasty, then he gotta keep up with the whole cop, I'm in control thing. But she wasn't. She laughed and was like, well, I see that was wrong.

Started laughing, said, yo, you wanna, you wanna call us a day right now?

It says you're a hand to God.

It's like, nigga, that was crazy.

It's crazy that you're even putting God in this at all. Why are you assuming I believe in God? Why are you assuming that I know the whole cultural putting your hand?

Right, look, it's horrible, cuz once he did the hand to God thing, I thought he's going to let her off. Like, all right, fine, if you say you didn't want to do it, I'll take your word, which, which you could do anyway, bro.

I would have— my pride and stupidity would have made me tap out to this lady. Ma'am, I'mma give you a warning.

Save face, right?

Yo, have yourself a wonderful day. No, your ego got to make you come back and get a lady a fucking ticket. And now the body cam footage is out in the world. Nothing's gonna happen to this man, and that's the fucked up part.

And she had to go to court. So she goes to court, she puts out a new video where she goes to court and says, uh, they dropped the charges. Apparently they dropped the charges the night before court, but she started to go to court to know, and they said they put lack of evidence.

Fam, I, I told this before, I swear to God, I told this shit before up here. When we had the compound, I got pulled over running to the Quick Check. The cop was like, I'm like, what you stop me for? He said you was on your cell phone? I was like, I'm actually running back to the house because I left my cell phone and my wallet. See, I never had shit on me, right? Didn't give a fuck. Yo, license, registration, let me run your shit anyway. You didn't have a license, right? Oh yeah, um, give me your name. I'm sorry, I didn't have my license, but yeah, give me your information. Registration and shit is in the car, but got you.

That was sick.

And I had a warrant.

Yeah, I personally, I just believe that most cops are dumb. Um, they don't know how to investigate shit. There's not no detective shit, none of that. Most of the crimes are solved by cameras or people telling on people. And they're dumb and they're ego-driven. That's like a perfect example. He was mad as shit. She ain't had no fucking hands. And he didn't know what to do about it.

Because it's usually just my word against yours.

Bro, why are you telling me to swear to God? So if I would say, I swear to God, ain't no brick in the trunk, you'd let me go without checking the trunk? It's just weird. He is dumb as a bag of bricks. That's what I know.

But this is important, Mona, but I do want to shout out to the good policemen out there. Yeah, oh yeah, sure. I know. I do not share in Mona's views. Fuck the police. Too many jobs. Yeah, no.

Coming straight from the underground. A young bitch got it bad 'cause I'm brown.

But you ain't.

And you're not brown. Shut up. You're not brown.

Mark it to the blanket.

Anyway, go ahead, Mark.

But I was gonna say, and it's not just cops. This is the argument people have had in their relationships that they've had with niggas in the barbershop. Like, you were talking about this earlier. Like, sometimes you just gotta bow out. Yeah.

Yeah, word.

Like, this is the point where you gotta be like, oh, you know what, you're right, I'm wrong.

I lost.

This is a full circle moment because we were talking about that in the beginning.

Yeah, it's like, come on, bro, you said you had a right hand and she ain't got a right hand. What the fuck?

Just get back in your car. Yeah, that my bad.

She was like, do you just want to nip this in the bud?

She's like, yo, you just want to call it a day?

He was like, nah, I don't give a fuck.

No, you had a phone.

You had that motherfucker in your toes or something.

Yeah, something.

We have, uh, the other part we were telling y'all about Larry Jackson. And some of the smear campaign and some of the websites popping up that were just dragging his name through the mud and alleging a lot about him. But, uh, Larry Jackson is now fighting back.

Yeah, as he should.

I like it.

Let's see. Larry Jackson's Gamma is at the center of a legal battle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, get to the juicy shit, goddamn it. Uh, according to court documents filed this week, Gamma is seeking to uncover the anonymous individuals responsible responsible for launching two websites that accused the company of financial misconduct, streaming manipulation, and misuse of investor money. The complaint argues that the allegations are entirely fabricated and were intentionally designed to damage the reputation of the fast-growing entertainment firm. The lawsuit specifically references the domains LarryJacksonExposed.com and GammaExposed.com, which allegedly surfaced shortly after a favorable Bloomberg feature highlighted Jackson's rise in the music industry. Gamma claims the sites used inflammatory language and false accusations, including claims that sales connected to Kanye West's album Bully were artificially boosted through bots and yada yada yada yada. All right, so Larry's trying to find out who's at the bottom of these.

I'm happy all the way with it.

Good.

I ain't mad at him. I'm with it. Just, just uncover— you got it. Show yourself. Yeah, I mean, I— we knew it was some bullshit in there when you said Sexy Red was surrounded by Crips. That kind of should have told you something. It was right there. But yo, I think that this going to be a bigger— I think it's going to be a bigger thing that's, that's connected with some other shit. What do you mean? I think it's Larry Jackson got got other ties, and the fuckers that are trying to get with them is beefing with a whole bunch of other people. Not a whole bunch of other people, but I think it's interconnected with some other shit we have talked about.

Okay, okay.

I like the idea of, uh, exposing people posting shit anonymously on the internet regardless, or having them be held accountable for putting out some bullshit.

You did this shit on purpose to lower my value or lower the interest in other people potentially coming over here or doing business with us, to make us look like we shady or we scammy. That, that's intentional.

Or even if you didn't hurt anything, I got a little bit of time and money, so no, but you try to hurt.

That, that guise of anonymity just lets people think you could just get whatever off, yo. Yeah, like, that's— I'm just— hey, I'm not debating on what's true, what's not true. I don't know. I just think that he has a right to know who his accuser is. Yeah, like, you don't get to put up an anonymous website with all of this shit up here and it just go and it gets taken as fact. Like, all right, who is saying this? I feel the same way about a lot of the social media shit, all this anonymous faceless page name. Like, you just saying whatever and there's no— there's no accountability to that. It's the Wild Wild West. Nah, I like this. Show yourself.

I hate faces.

Show yourself.

Yourself.

I tell people all the time, say it from your real page.

You disagree? Imagine that.

Um, no, I agree with y'all. Reveal yourself. You have a right to face your accuser. I mean, this is America. But I agree with y'all here. On the flip side of that coin, I can see this being a chess move, a good smoke screen. Defamation. Defamation is one of the hardest things to prove. Okay, so if he's saying that he's defamed, that means you have to prove that everything said was untrue. Do I believe that Larry Jackson really wants to get into the open my books and talk my financials and prove that this stuff is not true? I don't think he really wants to do that. Maybe he would do it. We'll, we'll see.

Maybe I just want to—

you also have, you also have to prove in defamation that your business was truly affected, right, by what was said. And while I think you could prove that, it's tough to prove. So I think he gets more out of it. Again, I don't know anything. I haven't spoken to Larry. I told Larry to come up here, talk to me, and tell the world that he's not popped. That was my advice on whatever part that was. But I could see how you would put this out just to let the industry and the music record business know where you stand and that you're going to try to handle this aggressively. But do I know if he's going to go through with that? I think just the report of this gets Larry to where he wants to be.

Now, that both the two things could be true, but again, let's say it's— so we can look at it from both perspectives. Let's say it's false, right? That could potentially harm people from doing doing business with me. Let's say I'm looking for crowdfunding, let's say I'm looking for sourcing somewhere, and they're saying I'm misappropriating people's funds. That now stops other people from potentially wanting to invest with me or do business with me.

I get that. That's why you got to prove it. Cool.

I can make a nigga lie and say, yeah, I was going to give him $100 million and I didn't give it once I read the reports.

No, that's not— that doesn't prove that. You can't— it's not a nigga's testimony. It is a paper trail or some contracts or some emails that to say where your business has been affected. It's not just somebody's word. Cool.

I'm saying, I'm just— he would have to find it. Yeah, but that—

but you can— it's, it's tough is all I'm saying. If I'm negotiating a $100 million deal right this very second and nothing is papered because we're on the phone, and then a report come out on the Shave Room or some shit that throws them off, which happens all the time, might I add, everybody's safe because I can't even prove that I was negotiating this $100 million deal.

And they not going to tell you that's the reason.

They going to tell you—

cool, that's the good scenario that you just gave with your— so let's say we are in negotiations and some of this has a paper trail where we are negotiating, and now I start to get unfavorable reports and I back out of the deal. That's a possibility.

Yeah, but I'm not going to say I backed out because this report came out and you look like a sleazeball.

Never on the report. They won't say it. They won't put it on the report.

And that's why proving it is just tough. That's why these cases are tough this way. Proving it is tough, that's all. But that's why, again, I think Larry got what he was looking for just by this going out saying, I'm not laying down, I'm not taking this lightly, because that shit went around.

Reasonable doubt. Yeah, you get the reasonable doubt. Or if somebody thinks, yo, I'm willing to go all the way with this, and if I find out who's doing it, now I'm willing to potentially press charges against you, then if it's false, you get the people to back down.

And also, because Larry is Larry, I don't think it's as easy as, as going to the court and making them find out the person that purchased this fucking website. Website. I don't— whoever would be coming after Larry, in my brain, got a whole— got a million proxy emails.

And they got this shit right.

Yeah, it ain't—

this ain't just somebody in their basement that just—

yeah, I think Larry know that, which is why I get what I need just by putting this out. But again, I don't know, I haven't spoke to anybody, and this is above my pay grade. So we will see, we'll see what happens. Larry, good luck. You know I love you.

Good luck.

But I'm with being able to face your accusers.

Yeah, that's my own.

And I'm not, I'm not with people hiding anonymously and yada yada yada yada.

Or again, even outside of the law, the lawsuit part, yo, you spending— let's say he spends XYZ amount of dollars and they really get to the bottom of who created this email address and this company address. Now you know who some of your— a nigga might be kikiing in your face. Now you know you really don't fuck with me. So me sometimes finding out the identity of the culprit is worth more than anything else, or the niggas that's behind this shit is worth more than anything else.

It's possible.

It is.

Listen, we'll keep you updated as the updates come in. That's all I got for you Larry, you know you're in my prayers. I love you. I'm praying for you.

We talked about facing your accusers. There's another story that I think we should highlight. I think it's a great story. It starts tragically, it ends great, and that's in Philadelphia. Uh, 3, uh, men's, uh, convictions were overturned.

I don't see how it ends great.

I mean, they could still be in prison.

That's true.

It, it, it ends as well as it could. Yeah, that's what I'll say. Uh, 3 men, uh, Jeremy Shuler, Mark Brittenham, and Rashid Turner, in 1997 7 were convicted of murder. And there was no physical evidence against them from the beginning. It was a single eyewitness who said that they did it, and that they saw these guys coming out of this elderly woman's apartment on a Saturday. And then they determined that the person had died that day, and they convicted this guy, these 3 guys. The guys said they never did it. They've always maintained their innocence. And they've been fighting with one of Joe's favorite organizations, the Innocence Project.

Hey.

And it turns out that they didn't do it. When they checked the body and they actually did a full medical examination, it showed that it was impossible, basically, for the person to have died on Saturday. They actually died 24 hours later than the medical examiner said. They basically tried to make the autopsy retrofit the testimony. Right, right, right. 'Cause you know how it is. They say, well, we got a witness, and the witness said they did it, so they must be lying, you know, the guys must be lying. Fine, so let's just make the case. That's often what happens, unfortunately. And so they did that. They found out that the guy died 24 hours later. And it was impossible for them to be convicted. They've been fighting since 1997 to get free. And a couple days ago, the judge finally overturned their conviction. They were let out. And just shout out to every attorney and every organization that fought to get these guys free. And also without the technology, they'd still be in there.

That shit is scary, bro.

It's terrifying.

Because I feel like that shit can happen to literally anyone.

And Larry Krasner, yes, the DA in Philadelphia.

Kind of sounds like that yogurt— did you guys watch the yogurt shop murder thing on HBO? It was like a couple years ago, then they found out that they found some DNA shit. There's a follow-up episode now.

So to your point, that's why you don't really fuck with the death penalty.

Because let's say these three gentlemen were given a death penalty. 30 years later, later, uh, we find out that they were innocent.

Yep.

My, my, my whole thing in that is they lost 30 years of their lives, one.

Mhm.

Number two, you don't even know what they had to endure in prison, right? Like, yo, people be thinking this shit is a cakewalk. That shit ain't no cakewalk. You did 30 years in the state jail or fed jail, that shit is real. And then nobody from the legal side gets any punishment when they find out that they fucked up the evidence, or we tampered with this, or we tampered with that, nobody loses their job or gets any criminal convictions. And that's the shit that I look at as fucked up. That's the problem.

Philly was dumb corrupt for years, years. It probably still is. I'm a fan of Larry. I know, but all of it is corrupt, but it's like extreme in Philadelphia, the history of Philadelphia. And I feel like a lot of people don't know how racist Philadelphia has been, like inherently, all the way down to, um, what is it, Rizzo?

Frank Rizzo.

Good with the shit with the MOVE movement. Um, but just in general, that's— I'm a big fan of Larry Krasner because that's the first thing that caught my eye about him. He came in and all them bullshit cases, he let a lot of them guys out. And because a lot of those, it's the same district, same detective that just left around just a fucking— a long line of just— they just fucked everybody for years, years, years.

Well, long live the Innocence Project. Salute to them.

Indeed.

To the work they do every single Round of applause. Let's hit another round of applause for that.

Joe, since we're talking about Philly, you going down? Can we get you to go to the Roots picnic?

Uh, I, I wasn't going to the Roots picnic anyway, but I'll be out of town for my stepkid's graduation. Yeah, man, fucking— that's the crazy shit. 7-year relationship. You go the whole 7 years barely having to go to Houston. You make her do all the sacrificial work, get on the plane, come up here, and right the second you about to move, you got me. I gotta show up for these kids.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's important for them and they're excited about it.

You damn right.

So I gotta go.

You got to.

That's whack. That shit is being there.

Trash.

I have a blast.

He don't mean that shit.

I know I do mean it because, oh, got to be responsible now.

Yeah, that's true.

That mean when Daddy get home, it's playtime. I mean, I'm talking shit. I'm talking shit. Oh, congratulations to fucking Naeem. No, no, that's gonna be a big deal. Congratulations. I just don't get how motherfuckers be so quick to ask you to go to a graduation knowing that you dropped out. Like, nigga, this is dramatic. Like, why I gotta go then? Yeah, I mean, I be crying.

That's your reward.

Would you ever—

you get to experience one, you get to experience something.

Do you have any, any interest at all in getting a diploma? Like, like doing it?

Get him to do what? Show the numbers.

Show the numbers.

Apply for a job. What?

Motherfuckers, I'm the example. All this shit The teacher said, boy, it was wrong. Boy, was you wrong. You don't need that shit.

You—

hey, you could do it.

Don't believe him.

He is extremely talented. Your black ass need that diploma. You better—

I was telling the teachers I'm extremely talented.

What you need the diploma for, bro?

Go ahead.

I'm not trying to be funny.

I do want to go back to school, so the answer is yes. I want to go back to school.

You're not going back to school to get a diploma?

No, I'm going back to school. Well, I'm going to—

what you going back to school for?

You went to college.

College information to learn.

Oh, all right, got you.

Good.

I'm done and I hate all of y'all and I'm never talking.

Stay in school, man. Stay in school.

Stay in school, y'all. I'm going to some other shit. I'm going like to San Diego State or some shit.

Everybody drop out, maybe you'll be Joe Budden.

I ain't going to Rutgers or nothing that you think is around here.

I'm out.

I see, I see.

I'm going to something with fine shit. Wow.

Okay.

Yo, no, far fine shit, not local fine shit.

A university Maui or some shit?

Is it fine if she did? Oh, then yes. Then yes. Oh, say less then. My girl gonna be mad I'm back at school. I can hear her hating already. Look at you trying to learn shit. Uh, let me see what else is important. Oh, Roots picnic. Roots picnic, we were saying. Oh wait, my memory is bad. Did we talk about Roots picnic? No. All right, please have at it. Just because I'm not going. I won't be there.

I'm going. I want to see y'all over the Roots. I want to see Lasso. That's the main two I'm, I'm excited about.

Kehlani said it's going to be dope too.

Oh, for sure. There's mad talented people there. I'm just— the two that I'm excited about is Hov and Drake.

Do you have fancy-pantsy celeb tickets?

You want—

I don't know how that work.

You want some positive news?

Probably not.

Probably not. Probably, probably not.

They're in the middle. They're not gen pop.

Okay.

But they're not the— cuz I had to get so many I couldn't get— sure, I had to get— I got like 10. I got a set for you, you, you, and then some other folks.

I'm hoping that maybe I can text someone once I get there.

That's the move. Once you in there, you, you can get to—

moving around in there a little bit.

Y'all y'all will be fine.

We know how to do it.

Yeah, hip-hop love song.

Oh, just a little music bed while y'all talk, that's all.

I'm excited to see Roots with Hov.

Me too.

And I want to see Hov at Yankee Stadium, and I don't know for sure if it's happening, so this is, this is the next best.

Yeah, or maybe the best in some ways, cuz it's the Roots and it's not out.

You, you could go to my suite.

Oh, work. Good looking.

No, you invited to my suite. Parks.

That was oddly specific.

Not really, if you think about it.

You said you had tickets already.

My brother said he got the tickets. I need to follow up with him though, cuz he don't be— he be forgetting shit.

Did he say which show?

Uh, Blueprint.

So that's the Saturday show.

Saturday.

What day you got this week for?

Sunday.

Oh, can I come?

No, let's not be hasty.

Oh my, that's not good.

I mean, my bad.

I'm joking.

No, fuck that.

Fuck the spot.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, man.

Yeah, man, they actually announced the lineup. The thing about the Roots Picnic is they don't announce the lineup until like the day before.

Oh wait, that was my question. I'm sorry to interrupt you, Mark, because I saw Kehlani post her show set, her setlist. How do y'all feel about when artists do that?

I don't like it.

I'm not a fan surprised me.

Oh yeah, surprised me. Maybe she still will.

Maybe she still—

what do you mean?

She posted the setlist that she plans to perform in the order that she plans to perform. Like, she posted it online, and that may be cool for the people that are not going to be there, but I'm against artists doing that. Yeah, it should always be a surprise.

You take this thing out.

I could see how with the new out— relatively new album out Yo, learn these songs so you sing along while I fucking—

oh, that's interesting.

Do it.

I'm still—

I don't— I still don't love it, but I could understand how it could be beneficial, especially also if I'm probably going to be getting a bunch of social media content here. I want the crowd to look lit, know every word. If we drop the beat out, I can see how—

because if you fuck with Carolina and you already know those songs, or you listen to them, does that— would that make you do that? Like, I can't imagine somebody who I'm going to see who I don't know super well. I'm not— I don't know if I'm doing homework before I go to this.

I would, I would, depending on if—

because of course she got a lot of new fans. Yes, granted, she's had a fan base, but with the success of this album and Folded, it's—

I don't see a lot of songs from the new album on here.

That's interesting.

When is her—

so maybe, maybe to your point, she's trying to get the Folded fans.

Yes.

That might be right.

And I'm about to tour.

So actually, that's not true.

It's a lot.

I do see there's more. There's more in the view. Yeah, still. Ooh, out the window.

She had a 45-minute set.

Kehlani deserves all the time in the world.

I thought she'd have longer.

45 minutes is a long time, especially at a festival.

At a festival, yeah.

Especially at a festival. That's a lot.

Yeah. I was just having this conversation with somebody about how headlining. They were like, how, how long should the set— my opinion as a headlining act, how long should your set be?

Oh, the festival?

No, this is just a show, like they're on tour.

Hour and a half, I think, depending if you have the catalog. Hour and a half.

I said no less than an hour because when we saw Eclipse, who I love, it was only like an hour and I felt it didn't even feel like an hour.

Yeah, it shouldn't be less than 45 minutes, in and out.

Yeah, if you're a—

but I understand why that was that way. Because Push didn't want to take away— it was all Clips shit, right?

But still, I want to hit the round of applause because I wanted the round of applause for the Scripps 2026 spelling bee champion. Oh, if you're a long time listener, you know I love the Scripps spelling.

What was the word?

Well, this time it's different because it was a lightning round to decide the winner. So it was like rapid-fire mad words. They had to go through like 35 words, but the word this year that won it for him was— you know I can't pronounce this— bromocriptine. Bromocriptine. Anyway, it's B-R-O-M-O-C-R-I-P-T-I-N-E.

Seems easy.

Yeah, it seems mad.

A polypeptide alkaloid used to mimic dopamine activity. Huh.

I can see the I thought I might would have put a Y instead of the—

yeah, that's the only thing that would throw.

Yeah, that's the only thing.

Uh, but anyway, his name is Shrey Parikh. I'm sure maybe I'm pronouncing that wrong, but it's S-H-R-E-Y. His last name is P-A-R-I-K-H. So you know I love the Scripps spelling bee. Congratulations. I think it's a big deal anytime somebody wins, so round of applause to him. His, his 2-word total broke the previous spell-off record of 29 words set by Bharat Soma in 2024. The runner-up— no, we don't care about no runner-up.

Oh, Mina Kimes hosted it too. That's fun.

Salute.

What happened?

Mina Kimes hosted the spelling bee. Oh, Mina Kimes, the ESPN girl, does football. She did Jeopardy recently. She's doing a bunch of shit. She's a nerd.

Spelling bee is fire. Every year is fire. Uh, let me see what else, what else. Let's see here. Larry fights back. Gil isn't gay. Gil's arena isn't Gil's, but we maybe can get to that on Patreon. Shout out to Gil.

You fucking with that new Ferrari?

Shout out to the electric one.

Electric Ferrari sounds wrong.

Literally sounds wrong.

This is a great— listen, so the, the new, the— what is it? The Luce.

Luce.

The Luce, the Ferrari's all-electric car dropped to mixed reviews, and that's me being kind. Yeah, I was about to say it wasn't mixed reviews. They were getting absolutely hammered. Uh, what I thought was interesting is that Ferrari's—

this is ugly.

I'm looking at it.

Oh shit, Ferrari stock price dropped.

You see them?

I'm surprised they're publicly traded.

I've seen it.

They seem so exclusive that I I would feel shocked that they even do that.

Let me see if I could find somebody that's educated on the matter to help me here.

While you're doing that, that car is ugly as dirt, and I could see why, uh, I can see why people don't like it. Yeah, don't look like it should be a Ferrari.

Could y'all explain this to me? Because this is out of my— above my figure. Why, why not make it— why not make it look like a Ferrari? Like, like, this clearly isn't an attractive car, But like, why wouldn't the first one— you know, like when Porsche did the Taycan, it kind of looked like a Panamera, just a little bit smaller, but basically the same design. Why wouldn't they go with what works, they know people like, and just make the electric version of it?

I agree.

Um, I think it takes away from the original car, so you might, you might drop off in sales from the other car. And we don't want nobody to confuse that with this.

Yeah.

Like, we make statement cars.

Like, yeah, that shit is designer.

Finally unveiled unveiled its first ever EV, the Luce, and it's Johnny Ive and Mark Newsom. Apple-esque esthetics are proving polarizing. Apple spent 10 years and reportedly more than $10 billion developing an EV.

Actually, let me take this— pause this for a minute, because that's the thing. The dude that designed the iPhone, apparently, Johnny Ive, is the guy who designed this car. And that's interesting. And from what I'm reading, and I'll let him finish.

Doesn't help it.

For all intents and purposes, this was the Apple car. Yeah, this—

it was the Apple car.

So I'll let him continue now. This is hideous, but it looks like all the rest of the electric cars. It's hideous as a Ferrari.

Yes, this would have been fire as Apple.

The problem is having that Ferrari badge on it.

Polarizing.

Apple spent 10 years and reportedly more than $10 billion developing an EV. Codenamed Project Titan, before scrapping it in 2024 to focus on— yes— AI. With Ive only departing Apple in 2019, he had years at the company while Titan was running before he and a core team left to form LoveFrom, the design agency that Ferrari placed in the driving seat to craft its first ever EV. But the Luce, with its considered rounded corners, brushed aluminum, sculpted glass house exterior has, for all the world to see, all the hallmarks of the products that I've spent decades perfecting at Apple. So is this the Apple EV in all but name? To its already vociferous social media critics, the Luce is an iPad on wheels for a 193 mph Apple mouse. Ferrari Facebook and some motoring commentators are appalled that the Luce design with its hints of Alfa and Tesla has landed so far from the brand's lauded stable of iconic cars. Aide himself has described the Luce as "still clearly a Ferrari" but cannily admits that it represents a different manifestation based on some of the beliefs around simplicity. A different manifestation indeed. One that, had it arrived as the Apple Car and not costing €640,000 would have likely been universally praised as a triumph.

And remember, this is from a team that has never designed a car before. You cannot blame Ferrari for actually doing something new here either. Luxury EVs are bombing, with Mercedes' electric G-Wagon being a particular disaster. Lamborghini has pushed its first EV back to 2029. Bentley has moved its all-electric deadline from 2030 to 2035. Porsche, at enormous expense, has remapped its immediate future back to combustion. The cross-pollination of Ferrari and LaFerrari could yield truly amazing things and very much needed innovation. The whole of Ferrari will be crossing everything that the Luce gets a reception on forecourts that matches the EV's pre-reveal anticipation. But for Wired, what some are missing here is not that the Luce isn't, on first reaction at least, red-blooded enough for the tifosi. It's a bittersweet glimpse into an alternative reality, one where Apple stayed the course and brought us its own EV.

Wow.

And that just tells us how powerful branding is, right? Because they've abandoned all of the, all of the Ferrari anchors, the things that make a Ferrari. However, if they just slap an Apple sign on this thing and make it $70,000, a lot more affordable than $640 grand— yeah, I think it's a hit.

I agree.

It's a hit now.

I agree. It's not a hit.

They're sold out to the end of 2027 already, and they just released the car at a $640,000 price point.

Yeah, I don't know if that means that. That, that to me don't mean—

and that's, and that, that's not true.

If you put your electric car out and your stock price dropped, then it's like, okay, yeah, but that's a temporary thing.

But again, the branding piece is— and a lot of brands do this on purpose— we want to make it exclusive, and so you only have a few. When they start playing with these colors and some other shit, niggas gonna start buying those cars and buying them for over sticker. Ferrari, Rolls-Royce, and all of them niggas are an exclusive brand, and That's why people buy the cars. They don't always buy them based on the look of the car.

But Ferrari is more exclusive than Rolls-Royce and Lamborghini and all that. You have to like get out of— fuck, you can talk about it.

People that go to Ferrari, you looking for Ferrari shit. Like, you're looking for all of the things that make a Ferrari Ferrari. To come out with a car that abandons all of that— because again, I think Ferrari could have made this car if it were Ferrari. Actually, all of the graphic design. AI niggas started designing their Ferrari, uh, electric car and it was looking crazy.

So this looked like a Testarossa with fucking, uh, EV engine. I don't think anybody would have batted an eye, right?

Yeah, I don't know if this car takes off. I don't, I don't, I don't know. I'm not looking at it.

Yeah, I, I get it.

It's already sold out to the end of 2027 already at $640,000 each dealer or something. But a lot of high-end cars don't make extensive amount of cars anyway.

They only make about 13,000 to 15,000 cars, period, all year. So I don't have a point of reference for it, but I will say, just looking at the ones that— no, to, to, um, everybody's point, they don't sell well in general, electric cars. But to me, the ones that I like the most are ones that just— like the G-Wagon, it just looks like a regular car. It just looks like a car. The range sucks. I think— I'm sorry, the range sucks. You only get like 200 miles out of it, 250 miles out of it. Yeah, the Taycan, I think, looks great. That's one of the ones I Yeah, the Porsche Taycan.

And it doesn't help that the ex-Ferrari president is criticizing this vehicle.

That don't help it. I don't help.

Hey, what's happening right now?

They just don't look— the BMW did a decent job. I just think this looks so far from what a Ferrari looks like. Yeah, that—

yeah, we'll see.

Yeah, we'll see.

I mean, it's a Ferrari, so we're not going to see them all over the streets regardless of anything.

So I don't know, you'll see it though.

Like, is— is Joe— just one more question, because I'm trying trying to get into the Ferrari owner's mind. Like, I, I know people who have BMWs who are like, I like the BMW, but I don't— I want to be good on gas. I know for me, like, I want to not consume gas, so I go to an e-car. I'm trying, I'm trying to— I do a hybrid now, and I'm trying to transition into an e-car next. Does the— in your mind, does the average Ferrari owner care about the environment? Okay, because to me, that'd be the only reason you would—

I could have answered that, and I don't even got it for real.

The average Ferrari owner don't even drive them shits.

That too.

They drive them shits once in a blue moon, bro. Niggas' cars be 7, 8 years old. That shit be having 6,500 miles on it.

11, 65, you know what I'm saying?

Like, no, I'm talking about 10 years. Like, niggas be 10 years in with 6,500 miles on the car. Like, that shit don't be— they don't drive them shits like that.

Okay, yeah, so I didn't get the appeal. I'm like, I don't think of— I didn't think of a Ferrari owner, somebody's like, you know, I just gotta shrink my car environment and do my part. Yeah. Yeah, they don't give a fuck.

Listen, you got $640 to spare, go ahead, have a blast, have at it.

I thought about grabbing it, I was like, fuck it.

Fuck it. No, I feel you on that.

When you say it like a certain way, that shit sound real, don't it? Like I said it so laid back, it sound like I really thought about it.

Um, let me see here. Do y'all bother— do y'all want to bother with this Complex top 50 list?

No, no, maybe Patreon.

Patreon topic for sure.

Okay, great. Let me see. Pretty boring Young and May. Oh damn, should I at least play the Future Tyler record for you guys?

I wanted to hear that actually.

Come on, let's play the Future Tyler record. And I heard people say it was good.

It's a World Cup record.

All right, let's see.

It sounds like something.

Yeah, yeah, I've read the credits. It looked expensive. So you can hear it?

Yeah, like as soon as when he drop it, you'll hear Oh, okay.

Oh, Game Time is the name of this right here.

Button clicks on up.

Just the fact that it's the World Cup.

I heard what you said through the grapevine.

Funny thing about your problems, they ain't mine. Staying up through the late night.

20 seconds to game time.

Getting religious with it.

Time crossing these state lines.

Working hard through the late nights.

20 seconds to game time.

All right, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts so far? Thoughts so far?

Bad.

All right, look like y'all vibing. I'm not bad at it. I'm not mad at it.

I think she smoked this shit. The Future part of Future is gonna be Future. The Tyler part made the song. Yeah, she came on. Tyler made the song. She came in with a different flow. She smoked this.

All right, good.

I'm just so miserable about the pending traffic from the World Cup that it's hard to be happy about anything.

World Cup, you said it's hard?

Hell yeah, that traffic is going to have us fucked up over here.

I checked the schedule, it only affects us on two Tuesdays.

Okay, that's it. How about Fridays? No Fridays?

Two Tuesdays for the entire joint, that's all it affects us.

All right, that's not the worst.

Getting a room, helping the economy.

Sure, sure, I'm happy.

Okay, now that record sound like something.

It's Jersey, it's both. Oh, okay.

You think that shit ain't spilling over to New York?

Oh, of course, a little bit.

Um, not a bad record. I'm probably never gonna listen to it again, but not a bad record.

It's like a soundtrack record.

Yeah, that's what it sounds like.

It's for the World Cup.

Oh, they got paid. Everyone got—

that's what I'm saying. Like, they're gonna pump— you're gonna hear this song.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah, listen, I'm not mad. I'm not mad. It sounds good. Uh, anything else on our minds, hearts, bodies, souls, and spirits? Oh shit, I didn't mean to do that. I'm bugging out.

Anything?

Anybody? Anything?

No, no, I think we did it. Anything?

Anything lit this weekend? Anything lit this weekend besides picnics and the graduation?

The graduation?

Graduation, Roots picnic. What else?

Also, family, if you care, uh, tonight, Saturday night, come to, uh, at 4 PM, come to Riverside Church in New York if you're in the area. We're doing a memorial for Assata Shakur. Uh, me, Angela Davis, and some other people will be, uh, will be, uh, leading the festivities.

Amazing.

Um, Mona, what you on this weekend?

Um, I'm gonna be resting, getting my body in order, and you can subscribe to DCMW wg.com and see what I'm doing all weekend. I just wanted to stay on that positive with the design decor. My website, Tomato Tomato.

Strong Black women.

Yes, I am a Black woman.

Absolutely strong.

Uh, what am I on this weekend? Sitting around waiting to see who the Knicks opponent will be. You know what I mean? I ain't doing too much. My team is resting up. Mitch had surgery. We chilling, man. We'll see what's going on on Wednesday. Uh, again, I'm going to this graduation out in Texas. Shout out to them. Uh, before we get out of here, I do want to say rest in peace to my girl Mohawk Diva. Uh, shout out to her. We miss you and we love you. I have no details on how she passed, when she passed, or any of that, but she was well loved, well liked, very popular girl from, uh, Harlem, man. Mohawk Mohawk— can't talk. Mohawk Diva, we love you, we miss you, baby. Rest in peace.

In peace.

Hey, yo man, y'all have a good weekend out there.

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Go out there and buy some ish t-shirts from wherever the fuck him and ish, uh, S are selling them shits. Go out there and buy some motherfucking Freeze keychains or some Marathon merch, whatever Freeze got going on. If you rapping, hit Parks up, get your record mixed.

There you go.

If you feel like it, he'll let you, he'll let you come by. If it's dope, if it's dope.

Don't take no bullshit over there to Parks. He don't do that.

I don't do that.

Never have, never will.

That's right, we don't do that shit.

Never have, never will.

DCMWG.com. I'm selling pussy on there.

I'm just being real.

Everything on there is on there.

DCM—

I want you to say it in the Fancy Joe Button voice. Go ahead, rap.

If I say the website that you selling pussy on, I'mma end up in jail, bro.

Why?

You're not the pimp.

That's have to prove that.

Say it.

That's conspiracy.

Yeah, word, word.

Can you let the man talk?

Yo, Mona's selling something on her own, on her own website. I don't know what it is, but I mean, support her.

You can hit the rewind button, she said it.

Oh my God, man.

I'm subscribed, so same.

I want to see fucking proof.

To family, Not to that one though, that would be inappropriate.

Oh shit, that's all we got for y'all, man. Till next time, same time, same place next week, you heard? We'll fold that up right now. Nope! Nose? Nope!

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