Transcript of Episode 897 | "Company Tardy Policy"

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Did you just tell Mona that you don't wear draws?

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Yeah, that's what I did.

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Yeah.

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It seems like a violation of some sort.

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She asked.

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She said, I want to see the draws. She said that first, so fair enough.

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Well, what I said exactly was I wanted to see if. When you and Ish match, do y' all have the same draws on? And then you said, I don't wear draws. And then I said, you a real.

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Well, I.

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You said that in response to us saying that you and Joe called each other and matched hats today. That's what happened.

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I got the bedazzle gun.

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Yeah, yeah. They got that gun out.

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My head. Cute.

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We look good.

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Yeah, if you 12.

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Oh, we look good, girl.

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Y' all look good, man. I'm in a good mood.

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No, I really like this workly head thing.

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So welcome, welcome, welcome. Salute. Peace. Shout to wherever you might be listening from. Uh, Ish is not here with us. He just texted me and said he's on his way here. He's leaving the dentist.

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Gotta book that on pod day.

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Which is what my brain said. My brain is like, yo, you book a dentist appointment on a pod day? But I didn't type that to him.

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It might be a dental emergency.

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Yo, he gonna come in with his shit swollen. He might have talked to orange pill and talking about.

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Crack your tooth out of orange peel. That's crazy.

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I got a dental procedure I've been putting off for years because of this job. Years.

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You should go.

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Yeah, you might want to get that looked at.

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No, because they said once they do that, that surgery to put the metal in there, you're gonna be done for a little while.

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Yeah.

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Oh, what you gotta get done?

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Oh, you get the implant crowns?

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Implant?

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Yeah.

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They gotta put the screw base in first and all that shit.

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Yeah. But because my gums have risen to a certain extent, it has to be done through my something else. And it sounds like it's real surgery.

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Yeah.

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It'S a real oral surgery. And don't expect that I didn't hear that and think I could be good to pod for.

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Gotcha.

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I'm risking my life for this. I'm risking my life at this gig. Yo, honestly, people don't look at it that way because I just come in here chilling. But it'd be so much going on behind the scenes.

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It's one of the most dangerous professions in the world.

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In the whole wide world. Is it? No. Yeah. Yes.

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Potter's dangerous.

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No, we talking. So anyway, so Ish is not here and Mona wasn't here. So we were going to start with our. Start with our new company, tardy policies, since it's such a big deal for you people out there.

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Oh, they don't like that.

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They don't. They don't like.

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Oh, they don't like that.

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They don't like when people are late here. They don't like it. And then they. And then they talk all the. About me in the world. Poor reflection of leadership.

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They say they put it on you.

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Yeah. The guy who's probably fired more people in podcasting than any other master out there. I know how difficult it is to get rid of a podcaster, so I'll be damned if we're doing it just because it was some traffic.

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On top of the fact I don't know why they assume that we're not getting verbal lashings off camera. I mean, he's so professional. Why would he do that on camera?

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Exactly.

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Like, he would never, like, just grind you the up and disrespect you on camera.

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On camera. On camera.

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No, no, he would.

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Not at all. And like, Mona gets so. Mona. Y' all talking about Mona's tardiness.

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Oh, my God.

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Behind her back and in front of her face. Mona gets so many graces from me. Mona gets girly lady grace, cuz girly ladies just, you know, when they girls.

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They never going to be on time.

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They never going to be on time. Never. And this is one of those. And this is one of those gigs. And Mona's bad with time, period. And this is one of those. And Mona's coming from a million hours away.

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Her niece, her cousin over there nodding you up. Stephanie. Mona's the last one to show up to everything. Family reunions, Thanksgiving.

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And Mona's coming from far away. That's true. And this is one of those gigs where in order to be on time, you have to be early. A lot of things working against her, y', all. For trying to talk behind Mona's back.

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Yeah, that's wrong.

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Into my face.

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Ish, I think, is just on some friendship shit. Like, he just think, like, this is regular. Just like a Monopoly game.

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A lot.

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No, no, I wouldn't say a lot.

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I would what do we.

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Wait, wait, you mean here, just in.

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General, tardy out the crew?

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You mean just in general or here?

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Here, here. Who's the most tardy besides me? Out the crew?

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Flip, I wanted to hear. I want to hear what y' all.

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Was about to say.

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So there's two levels of on time here. There's the 10:30 on time.

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Yeah. Am the real time.

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The real.

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The actual on time. And then there's the what time does the show start? And when the fans see that somebody late, it's. Cause they not only missed the 1030 window, that means they missed the actual show stack.

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They late as hell.

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The fans know you late. You like you laid as hell. Right. But so I was. It's issue on time. He's not here at 10:30, but he's here long before the show. He's here for the planning of the show.

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So my new rule. Audience out there that cares about the fucking tardiness policies up here. Well, our new rule is when Parks is here, I'm starting.

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Fair enough.

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And Parks is all.

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Parks. Always here.

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Well. Well, that's. That's kind of the thing. When the engineer gets here and we're able to record, we're recording. There's no point in six and seven people's day being. Being altered because one or two people are late. I don't think that's fair, especially with.

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Such a big, beautiful ensemble.

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This is an ensemble cast.

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We have so many talented people that like, you know.

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Come on, man.

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Next man up.

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I couldn't agree more.

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We can talk about anything, so.

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I couldn't agree more. Stop playing with us, man. Stop. Yo, put some respect when y' all talking about us out there. Honestly. Yeah, come on, type like I see it. Yeah, come on, type like I see it. Sometimes they just throwing at the wall. Sometimes, you know, is looking, man. How y' all feel?

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Feeling great. Feeling good.

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Feeling good.

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Much better.

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Good. Mark, you sound a hundred times better. Yeah.

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Got my voice back.

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You were sounding like me before.

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I know, I know, I know. And then this morning, I did a shot just to clear up my throat a little bit.

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A little Bacardi.

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In the morning, I did something else. I will never drink Bacardi again. Just cause y'.

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All.

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Motherfucker.

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I did a little Tito's.

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Ew. A shot of Tito's.

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Okay.

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Yeah, just clear the throat.

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Okay.

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Yeah, I took one, too. Shots of vodka.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I wasn't gonna stay.

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We on that. We on that today.

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I mean, it's better than cir. But shots of vodka is disgusting.

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What am I supposed to do?

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Clear my throat up? Yeah.

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You know, and get you saucy?

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No.

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Hell, no.

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Shot ain't gonna do that.

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Nah, not a shot. We GS over here. We grown men.

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We drink.

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Oh, boy. We seen Mark tipsy off a red couple. Red. We seen Mark tipsy off some bullshit over there at nodding off. Mona. What's up? You good? You good? You good? You good?

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I'm good. I'm in a great mood.

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Good, good, good. I love you, y'.

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All. It's Aquarius season, okay.

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That's true. Congratulations.

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Yeah, congratulations.

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I didn't know that.

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When is your actual birthday?

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February 12th. Same day as Abraham Lincoln.

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You wanted those. Okay.

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I'm a signed person, and especially my sign. But we happen to be some of the most special people on Earth. It's the truth. Think about the Aquarius, you know? Yeah.

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You know, Autumn Soul, Aquarians. They all Aquarians.

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Yeah.

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There's a lot of artists I love. What you want for your birthday?

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And all the great, like, activists a lot. Elangela Davis's. I can name so many people. Yeah, yeah.

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And Demona, which I want for my birthday.

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From who?

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From us, as a collective. It's probably gonna be one gift.

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I don't think y' all should do one gift.

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It's probably gonna be one.

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Probably won't.

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Yeah, it's going to be one gift. I see what you want, right?

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I'm thinking lunch.

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That works. Go get you lunch.

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We always do lunch.

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Well, this is your birthday.

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It's gonna be a birthday.

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Filet sauce is all yours.

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A gift card from the body shop or some. Get yourself some lotion.

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Get you a. I'm gonna get you a booster gift card.

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Hey, you know me.

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I got you.

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You know me. I know you.

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Get me in a case of blacks.

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Some Victoria's Secret.

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Oh, yeah. Nah, you gotta get her a lot of blacks.

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Secret. From the middle. From the middle square. The middle square. Where everybody's touching it, putting their germs. Where you supposed to put your. From the middle shin. Vicky Secret. Mad germ.

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Yo, people try candies and lingerie on all the time and return them.

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Yes. Okay.

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That's nice.

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They do. They do.

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Yo, is Victoria's Secret one of the spots that, like, you thought was the shit when you were younger and now nobody fucks with it, or is it still, like, something you could give somebody?

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Kinda. I feel like they evolved a little bit because they separated. So they got like a younger brand called Youngest Pink. Shit. Yeah. So.

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But Kind of freeze those.

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I be in the malls, man.

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Vicky Secret was never. Was never that. That for me since very young because.

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I liked the catalogs.

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Thicker, thicker women, but they can't fit that facts. They couldn't get done out of the house. Fredericks.

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That makes sense.

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Fredericks.

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That's a fact.

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Fredericks was the Frederick Secret. Big breasted bras.

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Gotcha.

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Vicky Secret ain't gonna get it done. That's what I'm. Little white girls. Then they got in trouble. Then Vicky Secret got in trouble for some. What? They got in trouble for how they marketed something.

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Wasn't it the. The fashion show? It was that fashion show. And then. And then Rihanna came out and put her foot on their neck. Cause she was all inclusive.

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Yeah.

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And once that happened, she killed Rihanna.

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Got the sports bra and the 6X.

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Good to know.

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Speaking of Rihanna, man, you were missed so much.

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Oh, my God.

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On the episode, ASAP came in and we asked where you were by name and talked about how funny you were.

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Crazy.

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Yeah. He made sure to say the newer girl. Yes. He made sure. It was no confusion.

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No, I With him. I can't believe it.

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Still me.

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That is what he said. I feel a little sauce on. Like he said by name. He said, you know the one right there.

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I still. I still be up by certain people knowing who I am or whatever, but, you know, this platform is huge, so. But that's lit. Shout out. They said thank you for the glasses. They really hard. Thank you.

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Yeah, no, he was great. He was.

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Yeah, he was. That was fun.

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And the glasses was dope.

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Hell, yeah.

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Even ish, Mr. I don't with Ray Bans, yo.

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What was.

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Oh, this real nice.

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Ish wore the ASAP glasses before. The glasses you got.

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That's what I'm. That's what I'm going.

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Yo, it would be on brand.

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It really would.

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It would be very, very on brand. They real cute. Ain't nobody. Oh, man. Shout out to asap. That was. That was great. That little clip is flying around.

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I heard you.

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Yes.

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I said, yo, that everywhere I looked.

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I said, okay, y' all killed that flip joke was great. And that was perfectly timed.

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Yeah.

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Non disrespectful. Like, it was a perfect joke, yo.

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Yeah. But the whole interview was dope. Y' all killed it, man. I was really happy to see it.

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No, it was dope. It was dope. I had a good time. I'm glad that happened. Ooh. Hey, Mic check, Mic check, Mic check.

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Whole Florida.

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What's going on out there? Whole new York City, big Jersey, big Jersey Houston, y' all getting snow too.

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Say you my I'm be your killer Nobody gonna play with you when I'm with you go against any like this girl ski all dirt on I put it in for you I spin for you Whatever you gonna call I've been multitasking, rapping and being a daddy to my little chill Everybody in the what's.

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Going on out there? Shout out to the nurses too, man. Shout out to the nurses. I hope y' all get that together soon. Worse, that strike is lasting longer than I thought it would.

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Now it's not safe for you. You switch like a pussy little bit. Damn my tripping we could have been superstars helping now remember this? Remember we were checking cars how you better keep your distance Cause it's not safe for you Twist like a.

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City.

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Everybody down south what's going on out there? Everybody in the supermarket getting ready Loading up, loading up. I still wish my. We did not.

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Yeah, I miss you more than 80s yeah milligrams I'm still a man we slinging yeah you jig a hoo and.

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I'm plugged on the border.

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I'm doing 45 a day and that's on any phone. Yeah, I'm a Hooper baby and I dropped out of school I was too connected I just spit my ass bro you can do the next no these ain't triple S these white Ls I might get their head boo but I.

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Wip we get something through the air but it ain't iPhone Let me put my whites out.

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From these ways busses from my DNA what you doing with a doctor? You a CNA baby we in Hellcats delay TNAs yeah, we scratching off mini kitchen yeah, bitch we barked and we want all blues he just got up front of all this and I keep a fold Nicky aka Ms. Parker once they put a big show me it's hard to get her on dawn fool. Yeah, we working we going all blues.

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Just for you, man, just for you. Get the energy right in the building. It's been the highlight of my week putting together this new gym playlist.

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Little different from that disco you was talking about before.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Different mood, different vibe.

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Puzzling, puzzling, puzzling.

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And Mona, Mona. What episode is this?

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897.

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Welcome to episode 897 of the JBP. Brought to you by a few by power by price Fix Price picks, gang. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. Stop playing with her, man. Don't call a white girl Damona. Ms. Mona in the building. How you doing, Mona?

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I'm great.

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Great. Absolutely love that. Next to her, Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building. Mark, what's poppin with you?

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You ain't man.

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Good. Absolutely love that. Next to him, the freeziest of them all. Elizabeth's finest. Big ice in the building. Ice. How you doing?

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I'm great, man. Glad to be here. And I missed you.

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I love that. I missed you too. My brother Elmyra's finest, our good man Parks is in the building. Parks, how you doing?

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Feeling great, man. Feeling great.

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Absolutely love that. Po is here. Corey is here. Mona's niece is here. Anaya. Shout to Anaya. Nothing against you every week. Mona has somebody different every week. I think it's a lineup. I swear.

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Selling tickets.

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Backstage passes.

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I get it. Shout out to Eric Sin Tanner. Savannah here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. Everybody is feeling great, looking great, smelling great and ready for work indeed. For sure. Big snowstorm. Yes.

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Is it really going to happen?

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Yes.

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Yeah, this should look like it.

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This one, look.

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No, no, it is. It's guaranteed. It's guaranteed. The news people all but said no. They said it's guaranteed to be happening. This is the first time that everybody, all of us over here are getting six inches. Not just six inches.

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Six inches. That's it.

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That's the minimum.

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Guaranteed. Six as the minimum. Everywhere, like certain areas, like where I.

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Looked at where I live, they talk about 11, 12 inches.

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We're gonna get 12 inches and then another four the next day.

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When does this start?

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Sunday morning.

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Saturday. Now it's Sunday midnight.

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Going like basically all night. When you go to bed on Saturday.

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You'Re gonna wake up with like 2am Sunday morning. Which for hood, like it's Saturday night.

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So they'll be outside.

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So that's. Yeah, yeah, be outside. I'll be right.

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I'll be inside, but I'll still be.

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I won't be outside.

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It won't be school.

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Hell no.

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That's what I'm worried about.

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Yeah.

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Why are you worried? You got another day home with your kids.

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Mom, Donnie announced your question. There will 100 be school on Monday either by remote?

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah, they got that.

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I don't care if they learn. I'll care that they're not home.

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Right. Get them out.

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Do it. Help if they in the house learning.

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Can we meet at the Pow and.

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Do the right that remote is some bullshit.

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I'm watching, I'm, I'm watching our, our mayor to see how he handles this snowstorm. This is his first big like. Let's see what you got.

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Yeah, yeah.

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No, for real.

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That's true.

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I was there when they up in, when de Blasio up in 2016 and didn't have any trucks on the street. Yeah, yeah. That was absolutely. No, I remember that. You remember that. The streets were messed up for a while after that.

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And you can't have New York like that.

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Not at all.

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There was somebody else that messed up the snow before that. Before that. Before that somebody messed up. So how they handle these types of, these types of weather events? Yeah, it's a big deal. Yeah.

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Don't be, don't be conservative with this, that road salt this weekend at all because it's supposed to be freezing too. So this about to be here for a minute. That's the problem.

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That's scary.

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That's the problem.

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Four degrees.

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Houston has got. Houston has got really bad weather as that storm makes its way to Oklahoma. I've been on this since 4 in the morning.

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Yeah, A lot of the south is getting hit, right?

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Yes.

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30 out of the lower 48 states are going to feel this storm.

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Sheesh. Okay, so let's talk about what really matters. Who's been in the supermarket buying everything on the shelves?

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Nah, I instacarted but.

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Well, yeah, I ain't go in the supermarket.

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I got a dude, man, he came back with all the wrongs. Oh my God, it's so bad when.

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You get a man cancel, redo it. They just. Men don't know how to instacart.

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It was like, don't just get. I ordered like a plain soda water like a couple cases or whatever. He's got the same bread but like some weird ass flavor. Like it's. I don't care about the brand. Get me plain soda water. Like. Yeah.

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Do you fill out the replacement thing?

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I did, but I was doing some so I didn't like you got to be there.

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Yeah, you gotta be like out the aisle.

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You done?

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But I didn't. I order it for you to just bring it to me. I don't order it. If I'm gonna have to shop with you, then I might as well just go to the fucking store.

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Exactly.

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When you, when you do put your order in and do you automatically put like find something closest to this?

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I do, but passion soda water is not the same as playing sad.

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So you have to be able to read to be able to do that part.

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And they don't got good judgment. They bring Alka Seltzer.

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Fact.

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You know what I mean? Yeah.

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Well, did you buy anything else? Did you stock up on anything?

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Water, toilet paper, paper towels?

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What are you guys, normal? A storm is coming. Supermarket habits, World War II.

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I assume that the weatherman is off by like a month. So I buy about 20. 20 days of canned goods.

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Oh, God.

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I buy frozen meat. I buy. I don't buy bottled waters. I already have, you know, water machine at the house. So I always got. I always keep like 20 to 30 gallons of water, just in case, you know what I mean? Just basic things like generators and all that, too. All of it.

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Sound like you got a bunker.

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You got some guns, dried.

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Oh, wait, I can't ask you that.

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I'll just say this. I grew up in a cult, so there's a way that you prepare for not being able to go out in the world for a while. And that's how I prepare at all times.

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Got it. They got a word for that. What is that? The survival.

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No, you're right. It's called a survival. Yeah, it's something. I know what you're talking about.

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Yeah, there's a word.

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It's a survivalist.

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Yeah. Yeah, I thought. I thought so.

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That sounds really good, people. That sounds very positive. Survivalist, like survivalist.

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Stay ready. Ain't got to get ready.

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I'm relying on. I'm relying on. What up?

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Yes, we're recording.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we recording.

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We're just sitting, talking.

00:22:47

Wait, the funny is, this is where we come to record for five, almost five years now with you. Like, this is the record place.

00:22:55

And he knows what it looks like when we're not recording. We're over here, we're over there.

00:22:58

We're on the balcony.

00:23:01

I'll be back.

00:23:03

Your teeth look great.

00:23:05

Are you okay? Are you in any pain?

00:23:07

Go ahead and make yourself some tea, man. This guy's the greatest. Look, this is why I like starting.

00:23:13

Yo, that might be mad loud, too.

00:23:19

So glad you can almost join us. You halfway to. You almost at work, yo.

00:23:22

He's chilling.

00:23:23

He's almost at work. That's my man. Audience. Israelites issues here. Rejoice, rejoice, man, he made it from the dentist and he's gone. Yo. This weekend I'm relying on. On somebody from Doordash or Uber Eats to need a couple coins and have a bicycle. I don't ask for much.

00:23:43

Yo, bicycles. No, no, no.

00:23:46

Don't ask for much.

00:23:47

You know who gonna do it? The Chinese joint?

00:23:49

Oh, for sure.

00:23:50

Oh, yeah. No, the Chinese joint. Go always.

00:23:52

I'm just saying if it gets shaky, you can count on him.

00:23:56

Anything outside of that, I'm relying on what black people have in their cabinets. Black people have. It's soup in there. Whenever you go in there.

00:24:06

Yeah, that shit expired like seven years ago.

00:24:09

No, once you heat it up, it cook all that.

00:24:12

Fix that right up.

00:24:15

Expiration dates are suggestions, not you hold.

00:24:18

To oodles and noodles.

00:24:19

Always got some oodles.

00:24:21

I definitely got some tuna. I know I got tuna. I just bought some tuna. I got some in there. I'll be fine. I rely on. On humans ability to survive things for a short period of time. Like the news don't ever come on and say, yo, it's about to be up for the next month or two. Then I'd be like, okay, let's hit Acme.

00:24:39

Did you do it for Covid?

00:24:41

A couple days? No. Hell no.

00:24:44

I'm talking about when the first everything shut down. You ain't go to supermarket and stuff.

00:24:47

No.

00:24:48

Yeah, you part of that. All they said on your paper towel or toilet paper?

00:24:53

Toilet paper. At one point, that was bad.

00:24:54

That was going to help us with COVID That was one of the dumbest things they did was say, hey, go get some toilet paper.

00:25:00

I bought a bidet that you're not catching me slipping again.

00:25:04

I got a bidet too, during COVID That's weird. We have that in common.

00:25:09

Clean. You know, Clean are so clean.

00:25:12

That got that germ on the top of your mind, boy. My handyman. Handyman was doing some work the other day. When he finished, he said, let me use the bathroom. He came out of the bathroom and went to shake my hand.

00:25:23

Nope, nah, nah.

00:25:25

And I shook it, assuming that you know what I mean. You did what you supposed to do.

00:25:29

What?

00:25:29

Damn.

00:25:31

Oh, no.

00:25:32

Not a drop.

00:25:33

Not a drop of water.

00:25:34

Not a drop of water.

00:25:35

Sometimes you gotta not dry your hands just to tell the person that you're about to shake their hand. I did wash.

00:25:39

It was not a drop of water. Dry.

00:25:43

Hold on.

00:25:43

Hold. Yeah, I just pictured. I picture hit you with a. I'll save you guys.

00:25:50

Y' all will be surprised how many people do not wash their hands, like at all.

00:25:53

Women.

00:25:53

And I thought it was a men thing, but it's women too. This. These women were talking about it in the comment section. Some people were like, who cares? One person put, why do I have to wash my hands if I'm holding tissue? It's like What Cuz do get through the tissue.

00:26:07

Sometimes they don't know about the do flakes in the air.

00:26:08

Do flakes.

00:26:10

I call people out on it. I was in the airport like last week and somebody like, when I see people walk out the stall and don't do. I mean, don't wash their hands. I'd be like this. This one works. Like you do that.

00:26:19

Yeah.

00:26:19

Because I don't want to embarrass them. I just make. I act as if I think they thought the sink didn't work. Oh, this one works. And then they got to do something.

00:26:24

I'm surprised Mark don't fight more.

00:26:26

I was just getting ready to say somebody gonna Mark.

00:26:28

He shrugged it off and. But he did put on hand sanitizer, like as.

00:26:32

Okay.

00:26:33

No, he just sanitize the. That's on his head.

00:26:35

Yeah, he said.

00:26:37

And that is the end of our hypochondriac segment. Really hope you guys enjoyed that. Enjoy your hands after you use the bathroom. Don't ever forget, they had to teach us how.

00:26:46

That's the one thing I remember about the pandemic.

00:26:49

What?

00:26:49

They didn't teach us how to wash our hands. Like PSAs. The watches, the apple watches had like a little timer on. It was disgusting.

00:26:56

Anyway, okay, what needs our attention most on this beautiful, beautiful, beautiful day?

00:27:01

It's going to be hard to talk new music without is here.

00:27:03

That's true.

00:27:07

Yo, you so stupid, man.

00:27:10

What do you want to talk about?

00:27:12

I mean, you know what I'm excited the most about? What's the producer versus having a daughter?

00:27:17

Yeah, we back.

00:27:18

Excuse me. What'd you say? Having a daughter.

00:27:21

Yes.

00:27:22

That's number one.

00:27:23

That's number one.

00:27:23

Okay, number two.

00:27:24

But number two is Mike, Will and Hit Boy.

00:27:29

I hate him.

00:27:30

I hate him.

00:27:31

I do.

00:27:31

He's a piece of shit. I hate him.

00:27:33

Come on. We can start with Mike, Will and Hit boy. Come on, get in your bag. Mike Will and Hit Boy. End of the month, brought to you by Complex Apple Music. They are bringing back producer verses.

00:27:43

I love that.

00:27:44

We've been begging for this for how long?

00:27:45

For a long time. I love this. Songwriter, the producer versus much more than the artist. Star artist versus same, same. It's just more interesting. It highlights people that don't get highlighted. It's a lot of. Oh, I didn't know they did that too.

00:27:59

That's my favorite part.

00:28:00

It's a much more interesting versus to me.

00:28:04

All right, give me the tea. Give me the tea. Who you got winning?

00:28:08

Oh, this is tricky.

00:28:10

It's Tricky.

00:28:10

This is a tricky one.

00:28:11

And again, the way they do this now is a lot of performances. So you start questioning who's showing the up.

00:28:18

Oh, yo, listen, that is an interesting. But I wonder if they will do pot.

00:28:23

Like, I'm pretty sure that's how. Because it's a lot of money behind these shits now.

00:28:26

Yeah, true.

00:28:27

So they have. It's not just y' all stand there and play records. We're gonna have some performance promises.

00:28:31

All right, that's cool. Who you got winning this?

00:28:34

So I think Mike Will has the bigger bangers, but I think that Hit Boy has a deeper pause catalog.

00:28:41

I got Mike.

00:28:42

Mike.

00:28:42

I'll tell you, I got Mike.

00:28:44

Mike is tough. Gonna be tough to stand in front all them race rumored records and are gonna work. Hit Boy got bangers too.

00:28:54

I'm not.

00:28:54

I love it.

00:28:55

Boy. This is just gonna be great, y'.

00:28:56

All. What? Who y' all got?

00:28:58

I got Mike Will. You got parts. Let's call him out.

00:29:01

Hit Boy, my man. But I gotta go. Mike Will.

00:29:03

You going? Mike Will.

00:29:04

Mike Will.

00:29:05

Mike Will.

00:29:08

Michael Williams. Rest in peace, Michael Williams. Mike Will did it. Mike Will's gonna do it. He thinks Will's about to do it bad.

00:29:18

Ain't gonna be good bad.

00:29:21

He got like Miley Cyrus or.

00:29:23

That's why it gets tricky. I feel like Hit Boy. Hit Boy is my man, so it pays me to speak about him in this light. I feel like he. You know why I. With him. I feel like he's. He'll walk into whatever fight for sure. Like he don't care about who's. Who's standing across from him. He don't care about the reputation, the hits. He's gonna walk in what's up on some hip hop.

00:29:42

I will say too, he's done this before. He. He had Boy Wonder during the early stages of. Of this. So that. That is a nice advantage. Like, he knows the mistakes he may have made or the advantages that he has in this field.

00:29:55

He lost the Boy Wonder.

00:29:57

Fair, right.

00:29:59

But that might give him a leg up.

00:30:00

That's what I'm saying. Like experience.

00:30:02

Yeah, experience at some point.

00:30:04

And Hit Boy move like he got a chip on his shoulder.

00:30:06

He do like he.

00:30:06

Like even when we talk to him before, like, he. He acts like I. I could see him pulling out some.

00:30:12

Yo, he did. I could see Mike Will being cutlery. Who's the person that moves some shit off you? Concierge. Hey, wherever that chip is located, I see somebody kindly removing it.

00:30:27

Knock that right off.

00:30:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:30:29

Last time, Hit Boy pulled out some unreleased Nip records. I think, too, that, like, he might have some in the cut. That it's like, oh, now, hold up.

00:30:37

For the people unfamiliar out there. Pull up some. Pull up some. Pull up some of the records from each of their discographies. Come on.

00:30:43

I mean, Hit Boy can go in Paris. Of course.

00:30:47

Of course.

00:30:48

Sickle Mode.

00:30:49

Colt. Yeah.

00:30:51

Formation, Beyonce.

00:30:52

He got some tough outs.

00:30:55

I mean, we got racks in the middle. Nipsey Hussle. He got Click. Good music.

00:31:03

Boy Wonder one because he had all them. Drake.

00:31:06

Yeah.

00:31:06

Yeah.

00:31:07

So it'll be nice to see Hit Boy get a shot against somebody that is not coming in with. Mostly a legacy act.

00:31:15

Yeah, true.

00:31:15

Yeah. They're both like, Mike. Yeah.

00:31:17

Tied to someone.

00:31:19

Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of shit, bro.

00:31:20

Read it to us. Come on.

00:31:21

All right, let me. I'm go directly. Hold on. Let me pull up Hit Boy.

00:31:25

I'll do some. Some Mike. Well, while you're doing that. He's got mercy. He's got no lie. Fans Maker dance Poured up.

00:31:35

Love me.

00:31:36

Wayne Bugatti.

00:31:38

Jeez.

00:31:40

Body Party is gonna work. The Miley Cyrus record. We can't stop all the Ray Shroommerd.

00:31:48

Yeah.

00:31:50

You knew that dope.

00:31:51

Oh, my God. These are tough records to stand in front of. No Flex Zone, no Tight. You know all the race Sherman.

00:31:56

And you know they're gonna pop out for the Paradise.

00:31:58

Yeah.

00:31:59

Yeah, I'm sure. I hope so.

00:32:00

I would hope so.

00:32:01

You hope. You know who gonna pop out?

00:32:02

Ray Shermer.

00:32:03

Yeah. I don't think they're busy.

00:32:04

Them ain't seen each other. Humble 17 years.

00:32:07

Humble asdna.

00:32:08

Shut your ass up. Okay, wait, wait.

00:32:14

Okay.

00:32:14

You think they seen each other?

00:32:15

Yes.

00:32:16

You think they text?

00:32:18

Yes.

00:32:18

They ain't texting.

00:32:19

Okay.

00:32:22

What'S their names? Slim Jimmy.

00:32:24

And who?

00:32:26

Sway ain't texting no damn. Slim Jimmy.

00:32:28

Okay.

00:32:29

I'm the one that started that room in 2015, too. I think I broke them up. They put that two pack out the double album.

00:32:37

Yeah.

00:32:38

I mean, he's got Backstreet Freestyle. He's got Click. He's got.

00:32:40

Yeah, I'm looking at. I'm over here.

00:32:42

He. Trophies.

00:32:43

Sicko mode.

00:32:44

He's got. He got a lot of, bro. He got a lot of Rihanna, Wu asap. Goldie Love.

00:32:50

Goldie.

00:32:50

Me, too.

00:32:51

And One Train.

00:32:52

It's. It's. Who's that One Train? Hit Boy. He better play it.

00:32:57

Oh, he's gonna play.

00:32:58

He better play it.

00:32:59

I tell you, he's gonna play it.

00:33:01

Damn. This is gonna be fun.

00:33:02

This is gonna be fun.

00:33:03

This is gonna be fun. Let me not. Let me not. Let me not. Let me not paint it like this is about to be some blowout. Yeah, I don't think it's going to be that.

00:33:11

If you put numbers on you. 128, 13, 7, what y' all think?

00:33:16

Yeah, I like a 12, 8.

00:33:18

I got Mike Will.

00:33:19

I still like Mike Will.

00:33:19

I like Mike will. 12, 8.

00:33:21

I'm not that cool.

00:33:23

And if Hit Boy, I'll be rooting for Hit Boy, though. That's my man.

00:33:26

So I'm.

00:33:26

Yeah, I'm Rude Van Boy. I ain't never been no studio with Mike Will. I ain't one of them type of. I'm riding. Riding with my boy boy. Yeah, I'm rooting for Hit Boy. Yeah, this is.

00:33:37

I'm excited is.

00:33:38

What's up, man?

00:33:39

What's up?

00:33:39

Y. Good day, sir.

00:33:40

It's a better day now.

00:33:43

I go to dentist, man.

00:33:44

You crack a two?

00:33:45

No, I got a crown last week and something happened with it. So I had.

00:33:51

Oh, okay. You tell a story. You asking me 30 minutes for that?

00:33:58

I got a crown all the way in the back, the wisdom joint. And they was like, yo, it's normal. Like you could eat. Wait. Wait till the anesthesia wear off. But now every time I'm eating, that is hurting.

00:34:10

Hurting.

00:34:11

Like every time I eat, that is mad painful. So I made an appointment to go in there, but I didn't think it was going to take this long. Like I was the first appointment.

00:34:18

That's the crazy part. Getting the crown fixed on a wisdom too in the background.

00:34:27

Piece of cake.

00:34:29

Five minutes out.

00:34:31

You the first appointment.

00:34:32

So.

00:34:32

So delusional about that. You got to just like.

00:34:37

Though I was there at 8 in the morning. You don't think that. That going to take that long? I'm telling you, you straight now.

00:34:44

They got you, right?

00:34:44

No, I got to go back. I got to go back tomorrow.

00:34:47

Tuesday.

00:34:49

Tuesday at 9. But it should be fast.

00:34:51

10, 15. You had you in and out. That's funny.

00:34:54

Yeah. Oh, my God. Holy.

00:34:57

And you go on Livingston. I know we're in national broadcast. Like they don't know that. Livingston is really like the fanciest of the fanciest. That's where the rich people go.

00:35:05

Oh, yeah.

00:35:06

How'd you. Why'd you pick there?

00:35:08

Because that's where the rich people go.

00:35:09

Got it.

00:35:10

You answered your own question. One of my friends referred me to that.

00:35:13

So your man's referred you.

00:35:15

Did they do A consultation for free.

00:35:16

Of course they did.

00:35:19

Please don't bring that.

00:35:21

Of course they did. But one more question.

00:35:22

Isn't Dennis woman n. It's a man.

00:35:24

Okay.

00:35:25

It's two side by side Dentist.

00:35:27

Oh, I'm glad you could be here. We're talking about hit boy, and I heard you. Mike will. Mike Will is a producer. Did some work with Miley Cyrus. All the greats.

00:35:43

Oh, Miley Cyrus. All the greats.

00:35:45

All the great. He got a future bag too, don't he?

00:35:47

Yeah. Who got a future bag back? Mike will. Yeah, you damn right.

00:35:51

How about that?

00:35:53

And big hit locked up. Your dad can't come save you, boy. Shout out to Big hit. Shout out to Big hit. Shout out to all the hits.

00:36:03

All the hits.

00:36:04

All the hits. You better bring them.

00:36:07

Yeah.

00:36:08

It's going to be a night, but I'm glad that. I'm glad they doing this, man. Shout out to Apple music. Shout out to versus Shout out to Complex. I look forward to this. This is going to be a lot of fun.

00:36:16

Yeah. More producer battles, man. And songwriters.

00:36:18

Bring them back to what else we got in music. What else we got music besides 21 versus Fabio.

00:36:23

I don't know the story.

00:36:24

The new Ari is out.

00:36:25

All right, let's go. 21 versus let's go. Anyway, the album came out.

00:36:31

Yes.

00:36:32

It's a great album.

00:36:33

It really is.

00:36:33

It's a great album.

00:36:35

Vacancy.

00:36:35

Yeah, vacancy's out 15 tracks. I think she's three for three on albums. I just think. I think she puts out amazing albums. This one's different than the other two.

00:36:43

It was fun, you know?

00:36:44

Yeah.

00:36:45

Yes.

00:36:45

Like, her Persona online does not give me. I'm about to get some fun music from her. But this was a very fun album.

00:36:51

Yeah.

00:36:51

I was shocked.

00:36:52

It took, like, the best parts of her first two. The sexuality, the vocals, little jazz layers, and then added, like, humor and fun. In this light. You don't feel like. Like somebody's going through trauma when you listen to it.

00:37:02

I don't want to call it poppy, but it's got a. Like, it's. It's easy to listen to.

00:37:06

Yeah.

00:37:06

More.

00:37:07

It's not like a super heady R B album.

00:37:08

It's.

00:37:08

It's. It's fun. I thought that JD probably did it all, but anyway, you didn't. When I looked at the production credits.

00:37:12

Nah. It was a few different folk and the reggae tracks were good. And not a lot of features, I think. Just buju, right?

00:37:18

I think so. Yeah.

00:37:19

Yeah. So it's just one feature. It's all her. The rest of the album. I strongly recommend this. I don't know. I ain't gonna say it's her best one.

00:37:24

The first album's still the best.

00:37:25

Yeah, but it's. It's strong.

00:37:27

Yeah, it is.

00:37:29

It's not. It is. No fall off to me.

00:37:30

Well, say less. I'm certainly going to check this out after that glowing review. And I was gonna check it out anyway. Cause Ari is. Ari is fucking queen. Folded before Kehlani. Every Ari song, Ari gonna keep a few about just getting folded. Bent up. Yeah, I love that. I love that. That's why I don't get how she act like that online.

00:37:54

Yeah, it doesn't.

00:37:55

It. Yeah, it don't match.

00:37:57

It don't match the albums.

00:37:58

No. Yeah, it don't match. But anybody's making music about getting folded. I'm into it. Shout out to Ari Leonard's. I bought another folded pack over the. Over the weekend.

00:38:07

There's more still.

00:38:08

What's this one?

00:38:09

This one was. They got acapella. They got a unfolded version. They got a.

00:38:16

What's unfolded?

00:38:17

Unfolded is a different version of the.

00:38:21

Oh, it's the one that was like the live version or some.

00:38:23

Let me see, let me see, let me see.

00:38:25

Came over there.

00:38:26

Oh.

00:38:29

That'S what happened, right?

00:38:30

He came to get a. Yeah.

00:38:32

And now it's. I just want to talk.

00:38:35

Unfold it back in the drawer.

00:38:37

Take your stuff and le.

00:38:44

If you're tired of hearing me talk about folded, just hit the skip button. Yeah, but I told you, I'mma buy it every time you put it out.

00:39:10

It's so silly of me to act like I don't need you back.

00:39:16

You get the point.

00:39:17

Oh, all I could think about since I seen you Then I know I didn't have to walk away All I.

00:39:28

Had to do was ask for space. Oh, my God, I love that. Yeah, I love it, I love it, I love it. My whole algorithm is unfamous. People singing folded, playing folded on a guitar. Some Japanese was singing folded on a. On a microphone. You saw him. He killed. That he was killing. Yes, My algorithm is nothing but folded. But anyway, what else came out now?

00:39:49

New music.

00:39:50

Go ahead, 42. Doug returned with his new mixtape. It's called Part 3, which is the Young and Turn 3. But it's just labeled Part 3. Quick 30 minute tape, 10 songs, features Ralo, Lil Baby, Glorilla G, Herbo, a couple other folks.

00:40:09

Oh, gym playlist. That's my new gym playlist. You name it.

00:40:14

For all of us 42 dug fans who wasn't kind of feeling the album. Wasn't feeling a couple singles beforehand. Thought maybe he was kind of slipping off. I'm here to tell you he is 100% back. Back with this project. Like, this is the dog that. Y' all know I'm a huge fan. And anybody who's a huge fan, this is the dog we wanted.

00:40:33

So we got.

00:40:33

ESTG is on there too. No AD?

00:40:35

No AD 42. Doug to the list.

00:40:39

He's CMG.

00:40:40

Oh, so you the list already.

00:40:42

All right, you won.

00:40:44

But anyway, he's back. So y' all are like this. I should have done the last project. So I keep it above up.

00:40:52

But yeah, well, I'mma check it out.

00:40:53

Go and cop that. Part three. What else is up?

00:40:56

Rock Marciano dropped a project. 656.

00:40:59

It's.

00:41:00

It's Rock Marciano. It's weird loops and abstract raps. And it's great.

00:41:04

I love it.

00:41:04

30 minute project, no major features. Arrow Holden's the only feature. Sounds great. My sleeper album was the IDK album, which is etds a mixtape. This got heat on it. We already played the pusher record. IDK is nice. Yo, this shit right here.

00:41:22

Hey, listen.

00:41:33

If I was a killer.

00:41:34

I would be like Luigi, do it real clean Treat the strap like a squeegee.

00:41:38

Okay, everybody with you and everyone needy.

00:41:40

How the fuck we supposed to co.

00:41:41

Exist when everyone greedy?

00:41:43

That's why I move out I said.

00:41:44

I don't need no one Help hit.

00:41:46

The lick on my lonely. Cause they might just tell every one of you Fake y' all plastic as.

00:41:50

Hell Me and saw Fat Rebel man we never gonna jail.

00:41:53

I play the thugs keep thugging the hoes keep going a fat ass and shaking. While the liquor keep pulling and they keep looking. Cause I keep winning and I keep up so I keep grinning.

00:42:05

Turning a hat to a hood. Turning a hat to a hood. Turning a hat. Okay, a hood.

00:42:12

This shit is tough. Album's real talk. He's got a bunch of different vibes on here.

00:42:16

I'm gonna check that out.

00:42:17

That sound good, but if it come on in the spot, I am. I am going to look around.

00:42:21

That's not spot music.

00:42:22

If you come on in the spot that I am, then I'm in. I'm a peek around.

00:42:26

It's not really the spots that you go to kind of vibe.

00:42:30

I'm gonna go talk to the manager.

00:42:35

Might catch that beat.

00:42:36

Yo, I'm that dude now. If I'm in the spot and I look over the DJ booth and it ain't no there. It's just a TDK playing. I go call a manager. Yo, dog, it's 1:30.

00:42:48

Oh, they should have a DJ.

00:42:49

Yeah, they should be a DJ.

00:42:50

That's. That's what I'm saying. But the New York DJs is getting on. They coming in. The New York DJs get behind that little booth. It'd be 2:15am, fam.

00:43:02

The New York DJs was recording a mix at home, putting it in the. With the drops and everything and then leaving. Indeed.

00:43:08

That's crazy.

00:43:09

We saw it.

00:43:09

You saw it?

00:43:11

I saw it. I saw it.

00:43:12

I did.

00:43:13

I did. Let's see, let's see, let's see. What else? Is there anything else in new music or can I get to the Beef?

00:43:20

Get to the beat. Because I got. I was thinking about another music.

00:43:22

Let's get to the Beef. Let's do it. I woke up to this beat. Oh, look at you.

00:43:29

That's what you woke up to. That's the Beef.

00:43:33

Yeah, yeah. I'm sick of Instagram. I need to speak to the manager, let them know how faithful I'm being. For real Instagram, boy.

00:43:42

Instagram rely on you, man. Instagram lies on you, man.

00:43:45

You ain't like that picture.

00:43:46

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The algorithms be you up. Everything you doing, you're not doing, man.

00:43:51

Y' all faces be floating everywhere.

00:43:53

And my girl sent me all the mid that my face is floating around. She sent all the mid like, look, you stole. Still. I got the you Joe Budden speech. That's how bad it was. That's how bad I was.

00:44:06

It was can't be under this mid.

00:44:08

Yo, dog, you are Joe Button. Look what you did.

00:44:12

I did see you under a white girl the other day. I was like, expanded.

00:44:17

Who you be seeing the most out.

00:44:19

There in these streets?

00:44:20

These two.

00:44:21

Thank you.

00:44:22

Hands down.

00:44:23

And they be in the same spots. Same spots, yeah.

00:44:25

Right there.

00:44:25

I be seeing Joe more than than.

00:44:28

Joe more than is, but I see both is and Joe the most. I'm changing that Joe just always, like. It just makes me. It's like, what the are you doing here? Like, it's always somewhere. I don't expect him to be like, it's funny, though.

00:44:41

Oh, man.

00:44:45

Okay.

00:44:45

Yeah. Let's get to the beef.

00:44:47

Fabio foreign versus 21 savage. I woke up to 21 savage cursing out fo Foreign. I didn't understand why, but it dates back to Fabio Foreign's academics interview, in which he said, go back before Savage is a street. Like Future. I look at him like he's.

00:45:04

He.

00:45:04

He a magnet. What's. What's making. What's making. What's making you think that Savage is a street.

00:45:10

It's seriously right.

00:45:11

That's enough right there.

00:45:13

The same when you said streets.

00:45:15

Okay.

00:45:16

I. I think he said that because he loves stuff.

00:45:17

Honestly.

00:45:18

The same thing you've heard about or.

00:45:21

Well not heard maybe just.

00:45:22

No. All right. The same thing I've heard about baby.

00:45:25

When it come to he be with and how they get down.

00:45:28

Same thing I've heard about saps same.

00:45:31

Nobody play with him.

00:45:33

It ain't like that. You know what I mean? Heard the same thing.

00:45:37

That's why Future is the biggest.

00:45:39

No. Well musically, yeah, of course.

00:45:40

He's a Jay Z of Atlanta.

00:45:42

Clearly.

00:45:44

Clearly.

00:45:45

I think Fabio. I think he going to drop two albums this year. Yeah. Futures the biggest. What the 21 Savage is treatment. Oh he's just.

00:45:54

Stop it.

00:45:55

Street. Where the foil stop in Atlanta. You could only be a street thing if where you from like in Montana.

00:46:04

Don't know if you're not true.

00:46:06

It's not true. You're a certain type of. You're a certain type of everywhere and.

00:46:11

Your name and your. Your arm is going to be able.

00:46:14

To stretch in certain different parts of the world. No, it's a sad states besides one of them. Honestly, like I'm.

00:46:19

I'm not even.

00:46:20

I'm not of what's going on in this clip. No, no, it's not but they continue.

00:46:27

No no. It's really.

00:46:30

I feel like I've seen enough and obviously I don't.

00:46:33

I don't know.

00:46:33

I don't see.

00:46:34

I'll see a lot of but like I love being the one that has to explain. I've never really been around baby but.

00:46:40

Everything I've heard about baby and.

00:46:43

And how you rolling you get down with. I know how they're. They're going right. I hear the same thing.

00:46:51

If you.

00:46:51

If I was to talk to talk about Atlanta. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

00:46:55

I still used to be on that.

00:46:57

Wait baby on that. Come on act mute up Savage on that then there's a lot of other people.

00:47:05

No, they always told me Migos was.

00:47:07

From Gwinnett, which I don't know what that means.

00:47:10

So how come.

00:47:11

How come 69 could could diss 21 savage so much. Yeah, but he dis New York too. Why he be dissing New York like he's going out. Stop.

00:47:19

Nah, but you saying this.

00:47:20

You saying this.

00:47:21

All right, enough of that. Which provoked 21 Savage to say this.

00:47:27

Your Foreign shut your ass up.

00:47:30

Name.

00:47:31

Don'T think cuz a trying to change that. Y' all need to sit down straight up. If your ass walk around with a 38, don't say nothing to me about the street. Straight up if your ass 35 or older and you've been trying to rap since you was got now 17, 16, 15. Me don't say nothing to me about.

00:48:01

The street you don't know nothing about.

00:48:03

You ain't there nothing in the street.

00:48:05

Straight up long clip but I'm letting.

00:48:07

It play.

00:48:10

Savage this, Savage that, Savage.

00:48:12

This, Savage just slap the out one of y' all. Don't think cause savage on some positive that is. Oh, let's talk about savage every day. Let's. Let's talk about Savage Y Nah, this ain't that. Y' all still get ass whooped straight.

00:48:30

Up.

00:48:34

Around that looking for clout, man old as hell poison in another state. How the can you tell a from a whole another state? What day is. You don't even know no what the hell. What the hell y' all has been want to be rappers y' all whole life Ain't that nothing in the street. Y' all ain't seen enough in the street to even feel how I feel about the street. That's. That's where the disconnect come in at. I don't give a about what your partners didn't did. I don't give a about what your hood did. I'm talking to y'.

00:49:10

All.

00:49:11

Y' all as individuals. Y' all ain't did nothing in the street. So y' all don't have no feelings towards Y' all ain't cried enough. Y' all ain't lost enough. Straight up, y' all better stick to rapping.

00:49:23

Man.

00:49:26

Good size man. Stick a fork in it, bro. Y' all be gangster as a area 59 man. Remote location ass man. Seeing y' all in 30 years, I need to keep trying to take the way a word some to make it to to to go at a diss a cause y' all been wanted. Ben Hana. I don't know what the hell y' all motives.

00:49:56

It's almost done.

00:49:57

Y' all be acting like y' all want to suck dick.

00:50:01

Always talking about another trying to ass up if I take my better on me wrong child. Everybody tough now. Fabio. Foreign shut your ass up.

00:50:19

He really didn't like that.

00:50:20

Okay, you get the gist of it. Sorry if that was a little long. That was FIO foreign verse 21 Savage Ice, you said it started a little bit before then.

00:50:28

Started before that. It started when the. The whole the streets thing very, very first started. And Fabio went on his Twitter and responded to him. Well, not responded, but he kind of directly addressed it. He was just saying, I can't get down with that fuck the street shit. It basically afforded us too many opportunities. A lot of shit came from the streets. I would never turn my back and say, fuck the streets. So just. So if you're wondering why he would even be asked that question by act, it was from that tweet in response to it that he was kind of addressing. They were trying to see what your issue was with him. And Fabio has since responded to 21 savages clip there. He put a little post up on Instagram. I'm not gonna read the whole post because it's very disrespectful at the end. But he says, I said what I said no back and forth with a nigga who said the streets and invited him to meet Frank and all that other shit.

00:51:16

All right, our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamar Hill. Let's hear it.

00:51:21

How do you.

00:51:21

How do you feel?

00:51:23

This is the one thing they're not gonna ask me.

00:51:25

Where do you weigh in on this, man?

00:51:26

I know the world really, who cares? But what I think on this, my thought was one. As soon as it started and I heard this, I was like, I'm so tired of this conversation. I'm so tired of this fuck the streets conversation. The who's street and who's not conversation.

00:51:41

Same.

00:51:41

Cause we all wallowing in some bullshit. I don't know who's street or who. Not everything I know about 21 Savage say he is with who he says he is, but I don't really care that much. It just seems like an unnecessary conversation when you're doing an interview. You. You could have just left that one alone. You ain't have to comment on. You have to comment on him. You could let it rock. So I'm not mad at 21 for the way he responded. I thought it was funny, but I just wish the whole thing didn't happen because it's stupid.

00:52:03

Agreed. Yeah, I agree. I don't really care. I mean, I know that's a hot water cooler topic out there. I don't care who street and who not street.

00:52:14

Yeah.

00:52:14

The who street Olympics is.

00:52:15

Yeah. Exhaust to the dudes that's not street. Get it how you live it to the dudes that are street. No concern to me. I'm gonna see you at a steakhouse or Somewhere, Like, I'm not gonna see y' all at the. At the duel, at the. At the gun show.

00:52:31

I've never seen something that kind of has like that's positive in nature get such like a. Like a negative backlash. It's like it was positive. So it's like, even if you don't agree, I don't know why it irritated so many n. Like, niggas seem really pissed. Like, how dare you say. It's like. Like, wouldn't that be something you want your son or your nephew to hear? Or you know what I mean? I don't know. I think that people took a lot what he said the wrong way from the beginning. The whole. They took it the wrong way anyway. So that's why I think a lot of people were, like, angry about it. But at the end of the day, for me, none of you entertainer is real street. Like, real street wouldn't be famous rappers. So what the are we talking about? Don't even go together. You know, for the most part, it is affiliation or what the next to you went through or whatever. So I don't know, but it's just stupid. And I don't know. I feel like Fabio always do a lot on Twitter, like, always.

00:53:24

Well, I mean, he. To answer your question, Wasser, like, I'm gonna read one of his original tweets. He said, I could understand saying fuck jail. Fuck crashing out over dumb ass shit. Fucking pressing the niggas in the hood that want to hold you back. Anyway, fuck violence. But it is something special about the streets that you can't find nowhere else in the world. I'm from New York, and the streets is bad out here, but it's a few good men I met in the streets. Streets that I met that would be in my heart forever. At the end, at the end of the day, I want to thank the streets for supporting me. I want to thank the streets for teaching me how to survive and how to thrive in the rooms that help change my life. Yes, it is a bunch of negative, but not every. But everything has negatives. So every time we see a thing we don't like or hear some we don't want to hear, we're gonna say it. Nah, I can't jack that. I kind of get what he's saying too. I just think is taking that they're taking his. What Savage was saying.

00:54:09

Saying Savage was saying that.

00:54:11

Exactly.

00:54:12

Just say that catchphrase.

00:54:14

They were hung up. They were hung up on the word streets, right? Because he's saying the streets. He's saying all the negative that comes with the streets. And you're saying, I want him to say all the negative that comes with the streets.

00:54:24

He's responding. Like, he said the ghetto, the hood, it's like, that's a different thing. And then at the end of the day, like, oh, I want to. I have never in my life heard a street say, well, first of all, I want to thank the street. The streets for stabbed me in my back and taking my brother. Like, what the are you talking about? Like, if you sub. That's why the streets are something people survive.

00:54:43

It ain't something that you long for.

00:54:44

Yeah, like, what are you talking about?

00:54:46

And they could build character, and it could build you up based on the adversity that you had to face. But that ain't nothing that you want for your children. That ain't nothing that you want for nobody that you love. So the. The point that hit me was when a 21 was like, yo, you can't talk to me because y' all haven't cried enough.

00:55:02

Enough.

00:55:03

That is deep. Because that is taking our kids away, taking your brothers away, taking your family members away. That is real. And that. You go through that enough times, you'd be like, man, that right. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think there's nothing wrong with what he said. Like. Like, yo, you go through that enough times, and you start hearing the old head talk about the cycle of deception that the streets presents for us. That is valid when they're. I'm talking about that. That was. Gave their life to the. When they start saying, yo, that is a. A farce, You. You got it. It's worth it. You got something different. So I. I ain't opposed to what he said.

00:55:38

And I like the OGs with that message. Yeah, I like. I like the OGs giving the blunt and honest truth about all you endure when you are in the streets.

00:55:48

And at this point, Savage is OG To. To the younger ones, they look at him like that. He's one of them. So, yeah, you want to hear it from them. You want to hear it from the ones that you're actually looking up to, because the ones older than him, the younger don't want to hear what you got to say. Sure.

00:56:02

Right.

00:56:03

You need to hear it from your.

00:56:04

The.

00:56:04

We say all the time. Even we talk about certain celebrities. Like, if they had somebody that would just pull them to the side and talk to them, it has to come from someone whose word matters to you.

00:56:13

Right?

00:56:13

And I'm sorry 21's word matter to these young. So to Mona point, I disagree, agree and I always agree with Mona. But it's some that really was knee deep in the streets, bro. And rap was they outlet to get away from the streets. So I don't think that a had to be telling a man's story. Some of these is telling their own stories. Some of these really was outside going crazy.

00:56:36

And I seen them do it music.

00:56:39

Music saved them, you know what I'm saying? And some did it at the same time about a bunch of Philly rappers and think about.

00:56:51

Yeah made their transition, y'.

00:56:54

All. When I say that, it's not like I'm saying nobody but these entertainer are not street. Like it doesn't, it doesn't go together. But this, this is stupid. And it's like it would be better if they could sit down, have a conversation. But this is not how it's going to go. Because the automatic thing is like, why you disrespecting me? I ain't even say nothing to you, you know what I mean? It's just, it's silly.

00:57:18

I don't know who street or who not. But if you're listening, I wouldn't just hop over the baby's fence trying to look at. There's a few of these where you ain't got to know what they are. You know the decision they will make in the event you hop over their fence and they happen to be home.

00:57:36

Please, walking around with a.38. Eight. Leave me alone. Yeah, see, that's what I heard. You heard that part too. I heard that like, man, you got. Okay.

00:57:46

Favio though recently, he recently went online and was like, yo, I'm checking myself into a program. I'mma get these drugs out my system. The drinking, I'm going get my thoughts white, right? Some of these I don't need to be around, just the negativity. I'm off of that. So, I mean, I. I think if he continues down that course course, he'll eventually end up where 21 is in the mindset is what I'm saying.

00:58:11

I hope so.

00:58:12

Sounds like everyone's saying the same, just in different ways.

00:58:14

He just had a semantics.

00:58:16

Yeah.

00:58:16

I ain't like you saying streets substitute it with something that I like and the whole message works.

00:58:22

Yeah, yeah, I get it. Hey, prayers to all of you. It's a blessing to be alive. It feel good to wake up in the morning. I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you. It does, it does us. Oh man, look at me, just filled with Positivity today. Why? I'm feeling so good. What's going on?

00:58:38

I got to check that calm before the storm.

00:58:40

Yeah. I got to look into my life. No pun intended.

00:58:42

Got to be positive before we get trapped in the house for the next 48 hours.

00:58:46

Only people get positive when they get skinny. He can look down. You know what I mean? See that thing? A little better.

00:58:52

I didn't. I. I didn't take my. This week. I'm waiting for Keno to walk in here.

00:58:57

Do you. Do you get, like, what doing You're.

00:58:58

I thought. I thought the kino it up last time. You think he's gonna do better?

00:59:02

You gotta do it right now. No, I haven't. I haven't felt that yet. The Is still in there. But I was supposed to take it already got you.

00:59:10

So you still don't have an appetite?

00:59:11

None of that game.

00:59:13

Oh, my God.

00:59:16

Yo, I got nervous when I had no more in the crib. Like when you had no more cigarettes. That same feeling. That same feeling, boy. No more Zion. I had itch. I had the itch.

00:59:26

How long you been doing that for?

00:59:28

Huh?

00:59:28

How long you be on that?

00:59:29

Another month.

00:59:29

Oh, okay.

00:59:30

We'll see how I feel then.

00:59:31

You got me thinking about doing it.

00:59:32

My wife, too.

00:59:32

Max, that is great.

00:59:33

Why would you.

00:59:35

Got some lingering belly.

00:59:36

He's been in Toso Locos for two weeks. Y' all talking about. Why would he do it?

00:59:39

That's true.

00:59:39

He's getting the urge to go out and have a Bacardi. That's.

00:59:41

That's.

00:59:42

That's why.

00:59:42

That's why midlife crazy got you. I did.

00:59:46

I was in the house.

00:59:48

Get yourself together, man. What did you say?

00:59:49

How you. I had a. I was at my doctor's on Monday, and I just. Just was like, yo, I'm hearing all this. What's your take on it?

00:59:56

And just make it small talk.

00:59:58

No, I wanted to. I wanted to get some information. I'm keeping it a buck. So I asked her. Even with the working out, I just asked her, and she was just like, nah, I don't. Don't know, because you got to keep doing it. And she was like, so no matter what. Because I'm like, I'm working out, I'm seeing changes, but I'm still not dropping to where I want to be.

01:00:14

All right? Poor doctors or one that doesn't want.

01:00:22

To get him addicted.

01:00:24

See, he got one of doctors. That's not part of the kickback program. Yeah.

01:00:32

You know, the fans think you already doing it.

01:00:34

I don't care what they.

01:00:35

There was a whole group thing about it. We just going to pretend he's not getting small every week. I'm like the working out.

01:00:38

I'm working out constantly.

01:00:40

So great.

01:00:42

You do.

01:00:42

Thank you. Thank you.

01:00:43

We can totally see the difference.

01:00:44

Thank you. Appreciate that. Now your counterpart over there. We get it together.

01:00:51

This look good too.

01:00:55

I a. I'm not.

01:00:57

Come up. Play back with me.

01:00:59

I'm good.

01:00:59

His crown sword.

01:01:00

Play back with me today.

01:01:01

I'm good, bro.

01:01:02

Oh, yeah. You can't talk Mouth. That nigga Mouth. That nigga Mouth is going through it over there. You can't even laugh.

01:01:10

Got the no mouth. Yeah, I'll tuck my gun away, bro. I don't want no smoke.

01:01:16

All right, fine. Then I have to do the ad. If you don't want to play, I'll do that. All right. Now it's time for my favorite part of the show. Prize fix. And I want to get right to it. But my good brother is sitting here mouth in pain.

01:01:35

Boy sacrifice, guys.

01:01:37

Damn, man. I would have called out, man. Your good will and spirit and just commitment to the gig that motivate me, bro.

01:01:46

I'm coming at nine next week, bro.

01:01:47

Yo. Catch you in the club with a.

01:01:49

With a smooth left. It's over. But that's why he don't be in the clubs. Freeze. He don't go out to clubs. He go out.

01:01:56

He went out for his birthday.

01:01:57

He don't go out there.

01:01:58

I don't go out the club.

01:01:59

He went to Sabor. He went over there where they. Not where they. They. They gonna let him live.

01:02:03

How you know I don't go to clubs?

01:02:04

Because I be in clubs.

01:02:05

You don't.

01:02:06

I'll be in clubs.

01:02:07

It's a word that go in front of the clubs.

01:02:08

I'll be in clubs. I'll be in clubs. Not with dental work done either.

01:02:13

You got dental work, Your whole mouth is done.

01:02:16

Oh, what you talking about?

01:02:19

I took one, though. I took one. I tested these.

01:02:21

I know. What's your point?

01:02:22

I got snuffed with the veneers.

01:02:25

Yeah.

01:02:25

I got snuff for a take. I said trying to take the pod to the next level. King. Carrying again, carrying again. I got punched in the face cause wouldn't do a take. No, I'll take the part to the next level, man. I get my life for this.

01:02:38

Did the veneers get loose or they were just like.

01:02:40

They were cool?

01:02:41

That's that porcelain work, not that composite.

01:02:44

What happened, Big ish?

01:02:45

You pay me what you make I'll take a couple punches. Oh, all right. Then I'll give you. You can make what I get with Javante.

01:02:54

But you can make what I mean.

01:02:55

I get in there with Javante.

01:02:56

If you stop procrastinating.

01:02:57

I know you think you can do that. You said carrying.

01:03:01

I got punched because I was carrying these. If you stop procrastinating. No, you can make what I make. What you think about that?

01:03:06

You can make what I make you stop procrastinating is a lie.

01:03:09

No, it's not a lie. It's not a lie. It ain't a lie. But that's why he get mad at me anytime I ask him, yo, man, why you won't like? Because he know I got a point.

01:03:16

I didn't say you don't.

01:03:18

But that's why he'd be like, yo, just shut the up. Don't talk about my procrastination. That is why he do it, because he know I have a valid point. Shut up neither.

01:03:25

I don't get it. What do you mean by if he. If he didn't procrastinate? He can make what? Like what? What are we talking about?

01:03:30

If you are more assertive and aggressive in following, pursuing opportunities. Yeah. You could make more.

01:03:35

You are a natural, Potter.

01:03:37

Thank you.

01:03:37

Like you are a podcast.

01:03:40

And we'll do it for free if you give him your phone number with this. That's my point about him.

01:03:46

I've been on the phone with this. It's not a conversation. It's more of a dissertation or a TED Talk. Oh, and sometimes he allows you to give opinions. Sometimes he let me say stuff.

01:03:58

But what y' all be on the phone talking about? You doing that again?

01:04:02

You still at it.

01:04:03

What y' all talking about?

01:04:04

That's my pod brother.

01:04:05

What you talk about?

01:04:07

Yo, we got a lot in common.

01:04:08

My.

01:04:09

We do.

01:04:10

Yeah.

01:04:10

See Ish talk to people so much, he know what he has in common with them. Yeah, you don't even hear himself.

01:04:19

That's what normal people dog food.

01:04:22

I don't want to hear none of that. Y' all talking about extra friendly shit.

01:04:25

With ice and fish and Mark. The only that don't answer my call since I got this job is Joe Button.

01:04:33

I answer your call. You was getting dicked down in a water bed and had to creep to the bathroom. Oh, you was getting dicked down with a water bed that was on the floor and you had to creep.

01:04:42

Never mind.

01:04:43

Never mind. That's what happened when I was trying to.

01:04:45

That's what I get.

01:04:46

I don't want to talk to nobody with a in the background naked. He got the towel on like he just did some work. Joe, button on the phone. So, hey, Mona. No, sorry. That's not my. That's not how that go. Then sorry. My own niece. I don't know if you be knowing. I only be getting dick down on the water bed that's on the floor going on.

01:05:04

I ain't got no damn water.

01:05:05

She had to walk over to a bathroom with towel in it. The little small square towel, too. The nicer towel.

01:05:11

See that, y'? All that bedroom nice. He is full of that bed.

01:05:16

Back down quick. She never going to mention the phone again.

01:05:23

Mona better not be trying to play, homeboy. She was on the waterbed. You look like you was into him, bro. You look like you was trying to show him who you work for. Look, look, the boss calling.

01:05:31

That's exactly what I was doing. Thanks for it up anyways. I was like, give me a second. Joe buttons on the phone. Joe, what is it?

01:05:37

Shout out to homeboy.

01:05:39

Damn. Joe.

01:05:39

What?

01:05:39

Shout out to homeboy.

01:05:40

Man, the four by fours. You're an idiot, bro.

01:05:44

Ish. I'm gonna call you later, man. We gonna talk.

01:05:46

No, yeah, now you're not. I'm sure of that.

01:05:50

Yeah, that's not how.

01:05:53

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01:07:11

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01:07:52

Who.

01:07:52

Who that? He said Kobe Allinson. Kobe Parkinson. Whatever.

01:07:59

I bet you get 24 passing.

01:08:00

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01:08:08

Yo, you don't even know who the people are.

01:08:10

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01:09:07

Careful like when you.

01:09:09

Oh, yeah, you shoot the club up. Now. That's a Virgo. That's a Virgo.

01:09:13

I was about to say when you go by the water and toilet tissue, get a 12 pack.

01:09:16

My n. I know that show that you and your girl binge watching is good. While y' all under the blanket and you got the heat on, so it's feeling toasty and have been preparing that.

01:09:24

I'm not trying to watch nothing this week knowing that we're going to be sitting around watching TV all week, shoot.

01:09:30

Some up parks, man. Stop playing, man. Let r know what time it is. Everybody know what's really good. It can happen to her.

01:09:37

Be careful. You know, you meet up, meet a Saturday night at the spot. She's not leaving for a couple years.

01:09:44

No new house guests.

01:09:45

You'll bring something home on a Saturday night in a snowstorm I'm telling you, never the case. That's why you tell them to be mom.

01:09:52

Never the case.

01:09:53

Don't do that. That's crazy. The horny will make a. Bring something home.

01:09:57

Bring some home.

01:09:57

I could get a home. You get out by the morning. You look after 10 inches of snow.

01:10:01

You can't now you stuck with it.

01:10:02

You call that Uber? They keep switching the driver.

01:10:05

Just take another nap now you bring some home. No, but call over a single mother who's feeling lonely and desperate while she's in her house and could trek it back home when she's done.

01:10:15

No, no, no.

01:10:16

And.

01:10:16

And baby daddy just took the kids for the weekend.

01:10:18

Yeah, she in there by herself.

01:10:20

Poor.

01:10:22

No dad.

01:10:23

And you took the word out brain. Ain't nobody. Ain't no dead in to get no goddamn kids.

01:10:29

Blizzard.

01:10:30

Hell no.

01:10:31

Don't come when it's sunny. He damn sure ain't coming in the blizzard. Let's be realistic here.

01:10:38

That's true, too, ain't it? My baby mom's called me to remind me my weekend was going on because it was snow. I'm like, I know.

01:10:45

Just.

01:10:45

Just make sure. You thought I had a trick up my sleeve. No, that's you, Cynthia. Cynthia keep a trick, boy. And we still got to talk about that little. Our trip anyway, yo, if you think long enough. That's the problem with a snowstorm. You in there in your house thinking.

01:11:01

Oh, yeah, idle time.

01:11:02

You know how much I think of in house. I just googled the other day. Why is. Is ducks in duck sauce? What?

01:11:14

That is an interesting question.

01:11:15

I. I asked it. I'd be home just typing, typing in the face.

01:11:20

I wanted to know why is it called duck sauce then?

01:11:23

Because it's traditionally served with pecans.

01:11:26

Like barbecue sauce doesn't have meat in it.

01:11:28

What about oyster sauce?

01:11:29

Wait, but that's a stupid name. Then that is a dumb name. That's a dumb name. What to call it Duck sauce because it's served with duck.

01:11:37

It's the sauce you put on the.

01:11:38

Duck when you eat. Barbecue sauce. What do you call it?

01:11:40

Have we been putting it on duck?

01:11:42

No, we don't do shit we supposed to do. Yo, you ain't start duck sauce. They got duck in the Chinese restaurant. They just don't serve it to y'.

01:11:49

All.

01:11:50

You ever walk in there, they eating at their table. It don't be the that's on the menu facts.

01:11:55

Oh, that's true.

01:11:57

They should be looking good on it. Don't give me chicken fried rice all the time.

01:12:03

I'll be home Googling. And my barber. My barber came over the other day, want to argue with me about how New Jersey is horrible for entrepreneurs? Saying that to me as he's cutting my hair in New Jersey. I hit the Google. Hey, how's New Jersey entrepreneurs? Oh, man. Entrepreneurs in New Jersey. 88,000. But is it good for small businesses? Then he. Then he switched it. He pivoted. He went to, well, black businesses. Okay, well, let me type that in. What do you know? Jersey. Kicking ass there, too. Jersey is good for entrepreneurs. I don't know what the fuck he was talking about. Then he switched it to barbershops. All right, then I'm done talking to you, man.

01:12:41

Very specific.

01:12:41

Wait, hold up.

01:12:42

All the black barbers are making sure that's true, right?

01:12:44

Hey, yeah. Nah. If you're a black barber, I could see you being mad in New Jersey.

01:12:49

Well, I can see you being mad for sure, because they here, and you know what?

01:12:52

They do. I can see you being mad in New Jersey. They took over.

01:12:56

I can't. Who?

01:12:57

Dominicans.

01:12:57

Dominicans.

01:12:58

I can't.

01:12:58

Your barber's Dominican, right?

01:12:59

No, my barber's black. Shout out Charlie.

01:13:02

And your barber's Asian, right? Korean. That's why your mustache be like that.

01:13:07

What's your excuse?

01:13:08

It's Asian or Dominican. Now the cheaper cuts, the 175. The Asians take 17.

01:13:16

How much you pay your Asian?

01:13:18

100.

01:13:19

Yeah.

01:13:19

Damn, you got Jackie Chan.

01:13:23

That's racist.

01:13:25

Quite racist.

01:13:25

That's really racist. I'm with you, though. Bruce Lee, he got one. A good agent per haircut.

01:13:33

That's with the tip. Or you give me 100 plus tip.

01:13:35

They shaving him up with a strip drink.

01:13:37

They wash your hair. Oh, oh, that's lit.

01:13:39

They watch.

01:13:40

All right, now you dragging it. If you talk to him too long, you'll start lying. They hate me if you talk to him too long because he's a talker. If you talk too long, he'll start lying. Yeah. Hey, massage. Just shut your ass up.

01:13:53

Listen, I didn't know that so many barbershops don't wash hair. I didn't know that was like a.

01:13:57

They don't do that, though. So when you get in the barbershop and you go to the $10 barber, guess what happens? You out the chair in seven minutes and they onto the. The next.

01:14:04

And then you go to the happy ending room, the bar, the Asian barber shop.

01:14:12

Yo, that's not.

01:14:15

No, that's very Asian barbershop.

01:14:18

But at the same time, Jackie Chan.

01:14:20

Is Asian two for one. Homeboy gets you right in the back. Homeboy nuts, bro. Oh my God. That's hilarious. I'm still talking about these snowstorm rules, but the young. Y' all talking about bringing people home in the snowstorm. The young people ain't even no more.

01:14:38

Yeah.

01:14:39

So young people, they're not drinking. They not. They not with marriage. They not with nothing.

01:14:45

They're not social.

01:14:49

They fall in love with who they love.

01:14:50

They. They not having children.

01:14:52

They're having much less sex.

01:14:53

They're not less sex.

01:14:55

Why are they not.

01:14:56

Because they're online.

01:14:57

Yes.

01:14:58

All day.

01:14:59

They're a lot less social across the board.

01:15:03

They don't want no real world interaction.

01:15:04

There's all these pieces talking about how nightlife, black nightlife in particular across the major cities in the US is dying rapidly because of the decline in drinking. The decline in.

01:15:17

It's not that. That's a cop out.

01:15:19

No, that's.

01:15:20

I think a lot. I think it's a cop out. It's the pricing that it costs to party in these major cities. So when we was young, you could go in a spot for 20 dol and you dance and you met some girls and you went to the bar. What has happened is bottle culture has ruined nightlife in the major cities. That's to go to new point. Yo.

01:15:40

I think legalization of marijuana helps.

01:15:41

No, I'm talking about even in the black.

01:15:43

These young kids is getting with their friends vaping in a hallway and that's the night.

01:15:48

Because they cannot afford to go to a spot. If it's three dudes when we was young, three niggas. $20 ahead you go in a club. Now if you go to a New York City club and it's three men, they want you to buy a bottle. Bottles be $700. You ask 22 year old, 23 year old to go on a 750 bottle.

01:16:07

Yeah, but these same young. And that may be true to a point, but these same young are not going in liquor stores and purchasing liquor. They just. They not with doing.

01:16:14

They're not with liquor.

01:16:15

None of this social activities liquor. But it's.

01:16:19

They're still socializing with other. Like you said, they'll go smoke, they'll go vape together. They'll go do they want to game?

01:16:25

They would got their headphones on with the vape. Yeah, they in college. The. The girl that's going Uber herself over.

01:16:33

Exactly.

01:16:34

That's what we're saying they are. They just not drinking like we was.

01:16:38

You know what into it.

01:16:39

They Responsible.

01:16:40

So what is she was saying? I remember traveling to Atlanta for the first time and they'd be in like different lines and this line was vip. And that was like my first experience with that. And even going into like the VIP section because I remember D4L was out back then and we went up partying with them, which was so corny. But if. But it's like I remember thinking how that experience was was like, well, that's not what it's cracked up to be like. We did the whole thing and it was new to us. But then now that's just what it is. Like everybody has like the celebrity experience. They walking you to your table, they bringing the bottles out with the sparklers. It's like it ain't even a birthday. What the are we celebrating?

01:17:14

He wasn't in VIP when D for Life came there, bro.

01:17:17

I was in VIP with D4L and 112. But they played out all right.

01:17:22

I remember going to Cheetah. A bottle of Great Goose was $150. That was cool. Now a bottle is 700 in New York. That's a lot of money. My for a 9 to 5. Are you talking about a 23 year old? A 43 year old might can't buy a 750 bottle.

01:17:39

But it ain't no spots other than the big New York clubs you could go to. I'm asking.

01:17:41

Yeah, but they. They low key. Like you being in white bars. You could get up and meet a baddie for $80.

01:17:49

I feel like still got the bar experience. I feel like they still got popping bars in the hood in certain areas. But I do agree the club thing is. Is ruin. And I feel like me going out and dancing and partying, that was so fun. This is not the same standing on the couch with the people. Not the same as being in a club. A new set of balls behind you. You been down. You get the dancing. You know that's how you would just be dancing and you don't know who behind you. You partying like that is over with. When I. When we party now we party with the in our section and we usually know who's in our section.

01:18:21

Section.

01:18:21

That corny.

01:18:22

These changed it. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. These right here.

01:18:25

Changed the phones.

01:18:25

Yeah. Again, even all that club you said a can't go to the club and have a regular night because got their phone out. Not just that we got.

01:18:34

We got.

01:18:35

You got to do it for the gr.

01:18:36

He don't get it because he privileged like he'd be in his people's section. Like he don't understand what it's like if you not in a section.

01:18:42

Pop, you heard him right.

01:18:45

That's why you don't go to clubs.

01:18:47

Why?

01:18:47

Cuz you wasn't accustomed to getting a section.

01:18:49

I don't go cuz I'm afraid too. I know you got to throw that in there.

01:18:51

No, but you go to. But you go to the hoodiest strip clubs in the world. You're not afraid.

01:18:55

And bust my gun, too.

01:18:56

What gun? That's why you bring your l. Ex.

01:19:03

And I don't do that no more. I changed. She. She won the fight.

01:19:06

I know you said bust your gun. I immediately went here.

01:19:09

That went right over.

01:19:12

He went so well, else he can.

01:19:13

Wear swishy pants any who. The Oscars, you guys. The Oscars. The Oscar noms. The Oscar noms. Let me hit the round of applause for sinners.

01:19:26

Start there.

01:19:26

Sinners who broke the Oscar record with 16 nominations. The old record was 14. This is the most nominations ever to keep that applause going. Goddamn most nominations to ever occur and for a horror film at that. So congratulations to Ryan Coogler, Michael B. Jordan. But it's not just. It's not just sinners though. My man, Dale Dell. Dell. Yes, yes, yes, yes. His first Oscar nomination. Keep his applause going.

01:19:59

Yes. I hope he wins that.

01:20:00

His very first Oscar nomination.

01:20:04

One what? What Delroy get nominated best supporting actor center.

01:20:10

Stop playing with him. Stop playing with him. Sinners. Yeah, he did the damn thing. I was really happy that, you know, there's the saying on that that goes around that says whatever the Golden Globes do, typically the Oscars do.

01:20:23

Yeah.

01:20:23

Uhhuh. This year it felt like the Oscar is kind of saying, nah, y' all shut the up. What are y' all know? What do y' all know? It felt like the Oscar sat around tired of hearing about wicked all year.

01:20:36

Like me, that wicked was not. That should not be in these conversations, but.

01:20:41

But it has been all year.

01:20:42

It has.

01:20:44

So I was happy to see that. And I won't say happy because it's black greatness in that. In that movie too. But the Oscars just seemed like they had a very different approach, a different reverence, a different understanding for sinners. And what they did did. Let me read off some of these. Let's see. We have best actor, Michael B. Jordan centers. Best supporting actress, Tiana. One battle after another. Best supporting actor, Delroy Lindo. Sinners. Best supporting actress, Wound me Mosaku sinners. And Tiana, best Director best original screenplay Ryan Coogler Best costume design, Ruth E. Carter, who now has the most Oscar nominations for a black woman woman ever because she did costume design for Malcolm X. She did costume design for Amistad, both Black Panthers and now Sinners. Congratulations to her. Ruthie Carter, Best original song, Raphael Sadiq Raphael Sadiq for Sinners, I lied to you Best production design, Hannah Beachler Sinners best documentary feature Nikon Quantu the perfect nature labor best makeup and hair styling, Shanika Terry Sinners. Best documentary short film Crystal and Hampton. The devil is busy. So a lot of black. Yeah, whole lot of black at the Oscars. Really happy about that.

01:22:11

Go Oscars. The Oscars is soon, right?

01:22:15

It's in March.

01:22:16

This March. Yeah.

01:22:18

That's a while.

01:22:18

Yeah.

01:22:19

The Oscars are in March. The Grammys are next.

01:22:21

The Grammys are are coming up.

01:22:23

Fifteenth is the Oscars and the Grammys are win. And Conan o' Brien's hosting Grammys next. Grammys next week.

01:22:30

And. And I want to say Trevor Noah is hosting the Grammys.

01:22:33

Yes.

01:22:34

Again for the sixth years in a row. Actor in a leading role nominees. Timothy Shalamet, Marty Supreme, Leonardo DiCaprio one battle after another. Ethan Hawk for Blue Moon. Michael B. Jordan for Centers and Wagner Moore Aura for the secret Agent.

01:22:50

I didn't see Blue Moon or Secret Agent but I like Michael B. Jordan in this. I watched Marty Supreme. It was a great movie. Timothy Chamberlay was great, but I feel like he kind of played the same role he did in the Bob Dylan, which biopic, which was also good. But I think Michael B. Jordan stepped out of himself for this in a different way.

01:23:06

It was the best Roy ever since played three roles. Yeah, he played three roles, man. Actor in supporting role nominees Bonincio del Toro One battle after a another. Jacob Elord L D. If I'm up your name, I apologize. That's for Frankenstein.

01:23:23

He was really good, man.

01:23:23

Frankenstein did really well this year as well. Delindo Center Sean Pen One battle after another. Stellan Skars Guard for sentimental value. Actress in a supporting role, El Fanning Sentimental Value. Inga is daughter Lilius. I'm sure I jacked that name up. Sentimental Value. I just go through the movies. Amy Madigan from Weapons. One more. Masaka for Sinners. Tiana Taylor. One battle after another. Directors we have for the movies. Hamnet Marty Supreme. One battle after another. Sentimental value and Centers. Listen, it's a whole lot of black shoes. What do we think? Distinguished panel? How do we feel? What do we think? Congratulations to Ryan Coogler And Michael B. Jordan. I could not be happier for you guys.

01:24:08

I'm excited for nominations but as they say, as many a slip between the cup and the lip I need to see that was, that was an issue.

01:24:15

That was definitely some issue.

01:24:17

My grandmom used to say it, she was a slave.

01:24:20

So it makes it many a slip between a cup and a lip. So between you lifting the cup up to drink, mad could go wrong. So you got all these nominations. We want to see some awards being.

01:24:31

I just trying to attract a younger demo, that's all. That's all we're do trying to.

01:24:35

To do that 80 year old plus demo.

01:24:38

Yeah, we got them down that 80 year old plus demo sleep right now. But I totally get it. Is this the big let down? Is this that thing that they do where they give you all, all the nominations, get you all excited, get your viewership, get your audience, get you where they want you only to let you down? Timothy.

01:25:01

Shalom.

01:25:01

What would be considered a letdown?

01:25:03

Yeah, think yes or no.

01:25:04

Cuz that's what I'm saying. Like is it if they don't win.

01:25:06

Not winning 16, then you're going to probably be let down.

01:25:09

You're going to be let down not winning 16.

01:25:11

I think that they should and they can and should win a a lot of them. Especially anything relating to the esthetics of the movie. Cinematography, cinematography, costume design, all that was absolutely amazing. I think Michael B. Jordan should win a score. Anything from that level they should win.

01:25:27

If Sinners wins three score they have in a bag. Costume design, I think they have in the bag. I'm sorry Mark, to answer your question, Ice, I want to say 9 out of 16, if I'm being realistic, at least 8 if they hit those.

01:25:40

But if they lose the best actor, best movie, best like the major ones, are you still let down?

01:25:47

I'll be let down, but I think this is the beginning of Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Coogler's run.

01:25:52

I was about to say dog. I think that this is unfortunate and I don't mean it in this way. I think that when you start talking about progress, small steps toward progress matter. So I think if they go in there and they win four or five fam. The fact that they got nominated for 16 speaks volumes. I'm not saying that. You know what I mean. We gotta go to the back of the bus. And now the middle of the bus is cool. I'm just saying that the acknowledgment means something because we haven't been being acknowledged for a long Time.

01:26:21

I just hope it's the right 4 or 5. I agree with you. I just hope it's the right four or five, because if it is score, by the way, all these categories matter. I'm not disrespecting anybody's craft because I think making a great score or making costumes is incredibly important. Incredibly important. I'm just saying in terms of the prestige and where voters often put their weight, you know, if they don't win any of the actor awards, but they win all the other awards, I feel like that's gonna be a pat on the head, and that's gonna disappoint me. No, it's not gonna disappoint me because I don't expect much. I think it'll be unfair. I'll be frustrated by it. I expect the Oscars to screw us over. So that's why I'm not gonna be disposable. Disappointed.

01:26:55

That's kind of where I was at. Like, don't. Don't give us all these nominations, but we don't get movie. You need something out of there. We could soften the blow by giving some of the other black people in the other films awards. So you can't say we was on our racial. Because we gave this black person over here award. We gave this black person over here in the war. We gave this black person over here in the war. But sinners only got four. You know what I mean? Like, you can't.

01:27:22

Yeah, exactly. And center is a particular type of movie. So even if you give it to a different black movie or different. Like, it's something about this movie in terms of its messaging, its power. If it doesn't get.

01:27:31

Oh, it's blacked out.

01:27:32

Yeah. It's not just a movie with black people in it. It's a black movie.

01:27:35

See, that's what that. That. That part shocks me, like, because of all that messaging in the movie. Like, I mean, they. They killed Klansmen at the end of the movie.

01:27:42

You know what I'm saying?

01:27:43

Yeah.

01:27:44

Just for it to be not. Not like. Well, let's say some people living under a rock that has not heard of sinners. And, you know, you get your. Oh, well, what's the. You know how sometimes we'll see certain movies listed in the Golden Globes of grandson. I'm gonna check it out. Let me go look. Like, the fact that y' all putting the movie up that high, you open a lot of eyes to the movie anyway.

01:28:01

For sure.

01:28:02

So, yeah, maybe they.

01:28:03

Maybe they get it, right? I mean, and the people spoke as far as sinners went. That's a fact. In spite of what that Variety article said at the time. That is a fact. Like, the people got up and went. Went out to theaters to support this movie, and it was one of the better movies I've seen all year. Yeah, it was. It's not just. It's not just something that's being driven off of hype and social media.

01:28:27

That was still a good movie. It was original. They delivered.

01:28:30

Rafael Sadiq would have to win that music award. Like, there's some of these awards that you, you, you. It'll be an indictment against you if they don't win it.

01:28:41

I think they know it.

01:28:42

They're comfortable with that shit. Oscars be comfortable.

01:28:44

Yeah.

01:28:45

They would be comfortable saying, fuck off. Remember, Oscars are white.

01:28:47

Yeah.

01:28:48

I think this is.

01:28:49

This could be the aftermath of that. We don't want another one of those.

01:28:52

I hope so. But there's some institutions that respond to this. The academy oftentimes does not get involved. They will be like, y' all just didn't get it. Y' all just missed it.

01:29:00

Or, we haven't necessarily seen 50 movies. Like, it could be a score somewhere over there. That's amazing. We just don't know nothing about Tommy Takes, like, You know what I'm saying? Like, we just don't know.

01:29:12

So then it wasn't that amazing. Cream Rise to the top. Somebody would have said something.

01:29:20

Somebody was Dunkin Donuts.

01:29:22

Check the music over there. Hey, check this out for the music. While somebody that did this is really amazing and talented. I just think we would have heard something. Something. But we'll see.

01:29:30

We'll see.

01:29:31

I. I'll leave this up to the experts.

01:29:32

The black guy that wants something for the perfect neighborhood. What was that? Best Document Tour or something? That's what it was. That's a really good documentary. The Perfect Neighbor.

01:29:41

Is it what I need to see?

01:29:42

That's what I shot with the cameras, Right, right.

01:29:45

Only from Body Cam. They don't use anything but body cam.

01:29:47

It's so good.

01:29:51

It's about the white older lady that killed her neighbor. That was like a mom of three or four. She had been beefing with the neighbors and all the kids all year and. Yeah, that's a real good documentary. I was waiting.

01:30:01

Somebody came in and talked about.

01:30:02

I did that.

01:30:04

Yeah. It was really, really.

01:30:04

I mean, heartbreaking. But amazing, right?

01:30:06

Exactly. It was a mix, but it was good.

01:30:09

If I can save anybody 9.99 or 1995 or whatever movie ticket cost today, I did make an appointment at 10pm last night to go see a bad movie.

01:30:22

What was this? Anaconda?

01:30:25

No.

01:30:25

Okay.

01:30:26

And, boy, there are some really bad movies out there. It's bad right now, this primate shit about the evil monkey. No, I did not. No, I did not. But that's one that I looked at.

01:30:36

Like, yo, I do too.

01:30:37

Yeah, what are we doing? The evil monkeys back? No, no, I didn't. I didn't do that.

01:30:41

That's not been.

01:30:42

I went to see the new Chris Pratt movie called Mercy.

01:30:45

Why'd you do that?

01:30:46

There's a new Chris Pratt movie called Mercy that, when you watch the trailer, it looks like they were trying to do today's version of Minority Report. Minority Report is one of my favorite movies of all time.

01:30:56

Okay.

01:30:57

So I did go to see it. I was bored. I had nothing else to do, and I wanted some popcorn. Boy, this was one of the worst movies I ever saw. I walked right out of there in about 45 minutes.

01:31:05

I just looked at the COVID of it, and I'm like. I would not go.

01:31:07

Well, the movie. What the movie is about, Chris Pratt, is there's a new program called Mercy that the people voted to have.

01:31:13

Oh, I know what you're talking about.

01:31:14

And that is the new law system. So they sit you in a chair, you're guilty until you're found, proven innocent. They allow you or you to hook up to the icloud system, where everybody's phone is on this icloud cloud, and you have to defend your case.

01:31:28

15 minutes or 20 minutes? 90 minutes.

01:31:30

90 minutes. So Chris Pratt sits in a chair for 90 minutes going through his girl's eye cloud, trying to figure out. Trying to convince the judge why he's in this.

01:31:38

Sounds like some.

01:31:41

The concept, if they really tried to make a movie out of it, sounded like it could have went somewhere. The execution of looked cheap. It looked cgi. It looked very poorly written and done. It was just. I lasted 40 minutes, 45 minutes before I walked out, and that's because I took a nap.

01:31:58

But you should have Submerged Supreme.

01:32:00

It was good, but the movie was an hour.

01:32:02

You want to see Marty hours?

01:32:03

I mean, the movie's an hour and 40. So you left an hour on the table. That might. Because conceptually, I know what he's talking about. Like, you got access to every camera he sold, right? No, conceptually, I was sold. That was. It looked crazy. It looked like Minority Report 2.0.

01:32:18

That's what you got, like, 24 rating.

01:32:19

It's really, really bad.

01:32:20

Rotten Tomatoes.

01:32:21

I know that the people out there don't really trust my movie recommendations or non recommendations, but it was really, really bad.

01:32:27

The rotten tomato says 24 out of 100.

01:32:30

So no, they got creamed on, on all of the movie apps.

01:32:34

It sound like some.

01:32:35

What else? What else needs our attention? Come on, let's get to it. Let's get to it.

01:32:38

Can we talk about Drake just for a hot second? Drake was, you know, in the news a couple months ago for the UMG decision. It was dismissed out of hand by the judge. He's filed an appeal, a very long appeal. I think 50 or 60 pages long. And I actually think he's onto something. He's gonna lose again, but I think he's onto something. I don't think Drake is wrong here. Basically what Drake said is the court or his lawyer said that the court dismissed the suit out of hand as non actionable by virtue of being song lyrics. In other words, the court said you can't sue somebody for defamation because their song lyrics. Drake's team is saying that is a dangerous precedent. You're saying, you're setting to say that something by definition just as such, cannot be used because it's a song lyric. He's saying there are times where that could be the case and the court has a responsibility to look at the case. Cause otherwise nobody could ever sue for defamation because of a song lyric. And I think Drake's team is. I don't think that this particular lawsuit is defamation. I don't.

01:33:47

That's up for debate by people, but I don't. But I do think that there are situations where somebody could make a song that would be defamation. And I think that the court should look at it. So I think Drake may. He could have some success at least getting to trial, even if he ultimately loses.

01:34:00

And it's a slippery slope because if you can't sue somebody for a song lyric, then what separates that from them jumping on the Internet and trashing you? On the Internet, Internet or any other type of publication. It's going to set a precedent there.

01:34:11

Well, that precedent is not the same as the song. There's precedent which is not the same for media people using the Internet president. That's why all these things are.

01:34:18

But media gets a pass, right? Yeah, yeah, media gets a pass.

01:34:21

Media. I think that is stupid as. And then that whole set of president things like precedent thing, it's like now everybody going to want to, you know what I mean, sue about a song. It's just whack. I'm a rap Lover. Hip hop lover. That's corny. Even if he has grounds for why he wanted to sue in this situation, the whole response from the legal team just opens up for everybody else to do it too. That shit's whack.

01:34:45

Everybody. Everybody can't.

01:34:47

But how are we going to. How are we going to have good battles if you can sue at the end?

01:34:50

See, I agree with you. Like, most of the time, I think you should be able to talk shit, be hyperbolic. All that in rap lyrics. You should be able to do all of that, right? Like, I never thought not, you know, when I was like, you know, talking about Jay Z, ether, I didn't believe what he was saying in there. It wasn't defamation.

01:35:08

Even skeeted in your baby seat part.

01:35:09

Oh, that was super ugly. That's a good example, right?

01:35:11

So I threw condoms on your baby seat.

01:35:12

Yeah. Skeeted in your jeep. Threw condoms on your baby seat, Right?

01:35:15

Excuse me.

01:35:15

I don't know who did what. I don't know who baby seat got skeeted on. I don't think there should be a lawsuit about it.

01:35:20

Right.

01:35:20

Cause it's a battle. But I think there could be circumstances where it does go too far. Very narrow, limited circumstances. And I just want to create room for that. I think about, like, for example, like when people do monologs at the end of rap songs. I think about what Tupac did at the end of Hit him up, for example. He's just talking, right? What if he was like, yeah, on January 7, 1992, you, you know, you broke in my house and shot my whole family and blah, blah, blah. If people could legitimately believe that what you're saying is true.

01:35:46

So let me.

01:35:47

I could see a situation, one that.

01:35:49

Comes to mind talking at the end is 50 talking to Ja, where he says, I know the style of shoe was fucking. I paid him 50. 50,000.

01:35:55

Boom.

01:35:56

Right?

01:35:56

So you're saying that could be defamation?

01:35:59

I'm saying I could see a situation where a person could be persuaded to believe that that's not just music. Yeah, exactly. Like, again, I'm not saying that it should be used often. I just don't like the idea of saying anything. That's when a song goes without any. Without any limitations. That scares me a little bit.

01:36:17

This, this case. This case, for reasons outside of. Of what Drake is stating is unprecedented. Because I don't think in any other hip hop beef can a rapper claim as much damage as Drake can claim from this one. That's a great point. Ja Rule would be Ja Rule would be closest, but.

01:36:39

And it still fails in comparison.

01:36:40

Objectively, I think it fails.

01:36:42

It fails in comparison.

01:36:44

Two, if you don't think it pales in comparison, that can be attributed to many other things. It could be attributed to the court case that they were fighting, the feds running up in there, Def Jam pulling support. You can't just say all of these are specifically tied to what 50 Cent is doing. Drake probably can.

01:37:04

Drake shit, I think is more quantifiable. A lot.

01:37:07

Yeah. A lot of his business and public perception and the view of things and his prices, a lot probably changed after that.

01:37:16

I agree.

01:37:17

Battle.

01:37:17

There's another piece to this that just hit me as you just made that point. Rap battles today are very different than rap battles during, like, the bridge wars or something where you just made music.

01:37:28

You ain't have brand deals, you ain't have shit. That was riding.

01:37:32

Yes, that's true, but I'm talking about in terms of how people communicate. 50's been in battles where he didn't put a song on wax. What if I defame you on a podcast and on an Instagram, I make up all these lies, which do fit the standard for defamation, and then I make a song about it now, and the song is heard by 50 million people. You get what I'm saying? So, for example, hypothetically, this did not happen. To be clear, if Kendrick had done a press release and given a press conference and tweeted that Drake was a pedophile and then made Not Like Us, Not Like Us still would have been a huge song that would have impacted him severely. And because the rap battles don't stay just on the musical realm, they often go in into blogs. You know, you go, you know, tweets, tick tock. I think it gets messier and more confusing in today.

01:38:14

I'm not saying that Drake doesn't have a point in what he's doing. Yeah, like, I'm not saying that. I was never saying that. I'm saying a few things. One, when you enter a battle that is kind of. Kind of. Well, I'm talking about how it's precise, received. It's kind of an enter at your own risk type of thing. Like, before that battle started, I came on the air, I said, potentially one of these people will never be looked at the same after this. Definitely said that. Yes. Yeah, it sounded like a lot, but you said it. I mean, I had a healthy amount of respect for the brothers involved, so. And sure enough, one person was never looked at the same. But you taunted him and you provoked him and you asked him to come out. This brother that we normally only know to be so quiet. So some of that is enter at your own risk for me. Two. Everybody can't sue. Everybody ain't going to sue. Back to. To Mona's point, suing is like a privileged type of thing. And when you lose and continue to use the judicial system to try to hammer home a point, it does come off away.

01:39:21

Yes. Like, my only point is for how he comes off, not in what he's doing. Doing. I'm. I can't even say I wouldn't do the same thing if I had all the money in the world. And you would. Time in the world, you wouldn't.

01:39:33

But I get what you said.

01:39:34

I don't think he.

01:39:35

Because I'm gonna rely on my rap. If I enter the battle and we on some rap and you got the upper hand and I'm on some rap and I'll just take my loss. I'll take my ball and go home.

01:39:43

I think. I think he fighting a different fight. Me personally, I think he just finding. I think he. This is past rap. I really, really honestly think he just won out his universal deal. That's what I really think. And I think that he is just using this as a catalyst to get that accomplished. I think that. Cuz, again, he ain't suing Kendrick, he's suing universal. And I just think he don't want nothing to do with them. I think that his level of success and money and access has shown him something that most people don't even get to see. Like you saying you suing is a privileged game. If you got enough money and your family got enough money to sue a. You could make some change. When the cops whip somebody ass and Newark, they don't have no money to sue. You whip some black person ass in Livingston or Shore Hills, they parents gonna sue you. It's gonna get all the media attention in the world. And now you can make some changes.

01:40:27

The only thing about what you're saying is. And again, I'm. I'm on optics. If he won against umg, I would put all my poker chips to the table. That he would sue Kendrick next, I.

01:40:38

Also would be worried about. I would judge that. I don't think he would, but I would judge that. And I think. I think.

01:40:42

But why would you judge it? Because for all of those things, because.

01:40:46

It'S like suing somebody that you told come outside and get a fair one, and now you'll sue them for assault. That's Some sucker shit.

01:40:54

What if you ask them about for a fair when they put out a gun and shoot you? Because that's Drake's argument is that you went beyond the rules of the battle.

01:41:01

No, no, no.

01:41:01

One of the.

01:41:02

And one of the dismissals before had highlighted what he said until it made where he said talk about him like in Young Girls I got it on. You know, it got to be true. Like you said this. You put that out there for him to say.

01:41:13

Say also he defamed Kendrick by accusing him of domestic violence too.

01:41:18

But that's why I. I would be.

01:41:20

More worried about this case. Back to your precedent thing in the. In the lyrics in court situation. Cuz if now there's facts in raps that might be across the board. Now everything is a fact in rap pursuable or actionable.

01:41:33

I don't like being indicted if that's the.

01:41:35

That's where my brain went at first.

01:41:37

Yeah.

01:41:38

That the people could pick and choose when they want to allow lyrics to be admissible.

01:41:42

Right.

01:41:43

And the damage because when these little is running around talking about shooting people. The white people or the court want to now allow those lyrics to be evidence in court.

01:41:51

I gotta say though.

01:41:53

But when it comes the dumber they are. But.

01:41:57

But now when Drake has a lot.

01:41:59

Less sympathetic to the rapper that says and then I killed him on July 7th at noon on 52nd Street. And then turns out that's where the body was. I mean I don't think it should be used used.

01:42:07

I'm with you there. But then what if you also get Drake talking gangsta in his raps. They're like, well maybe that's real too.

01:42:13

That was my very next point. Which is the other reason why opted I don't love none of the Drake lawsuit is because he get on them records and start spilling. Like when he not playing the legal game, he get on them records and say we're sliding you. Yo, I just had. Didn't they just shoot your house up? Shut the up ass. Yo, I'll buy tickets to your show. Get you killed. Killed. Yo, his mob ties over here. Like he. And that's the thing it gets into. It gets into the whole historical thing of the Oreo kid that can bounce back and forth like. And. And I think that's the part that hurts him the most in this is that's what not like us was about.

01:42:51

Exactly.

01:42:52

Yeah. I agree.

01:42:54

So your behavior as it continues even as we done forgot about it, you'd find finally listening to people you went and laid low like You. You chilling? Just want Iceman. Just want Iceman. And you should probably change the name of that with all the going on. But, yeah, that's what want anything else is a deterrent from. From that. But he got the money and the time, so please, by all means, have at it.

01:43:15

That's what I'm trying to separate, just in my last point, to. To separate my hip hop feelings from my other feelings as a hip hop head and just as somebody who cares about art. I don't ever want art to be criminalized or used or. Or. I don't ever want to restrict the possibilities of what an artist could do. I just thought there's just a small part of me that could see shit getting crazier and crazier in the 21st century with how we mix fact and we do it with news. We do everything. It's hard to know what's real and what's not. And I can see somebody's life, not Drake, but somebody's life really be destroyed for some shit. And then using music as a cover for art as a cover for it, and it just scares you. I'm not saying that this is the solution, but I'm very scared of that. That's all.

01:43:53

I can dig it, but it's a very, very slippery slope.

01:43:56

Super slippery.

01:43:57

You're right. Does anyone here think that he'll win the appeal?

01:44:00

No.

01:44:01

No, no.

01:44:02

Yes.

01:44:03

I think. I think he might.

01:44:04

I think. I think you'll get to a point where they just go part ways, and I think that's his overall objective.

01:44:09

But to be clear, winning the appeal means it not being dismissed. I think. I think they may. Because they dismissed it without even going to trial. I think he'll win that battle.

01:44:17

Battle.

01:44:18

Because of the argument. And then lose and then losing the next step. Yeah, that's my. That's my suspicion.

01:44:22

I'm not mad at that. Yeah, I'm not mad at that.

01:44:24

All right.

01:44:25

What else? What else? What else needs our attention?

01:44:28

Well, we talked about the Oscars coming up. We got the Grammys coming. They announced the performers, so some of them.

01:44:34

Some of them.

01:44:34

Who we got? Who's performing?

01:44:35

We got clips and Pharrell performing.

01:44:37

Yes.

01:44:37

No surprise.

01:44:38

No surprise.

01:44:38

We got Leon Thomas.

01:44:41

It's gonna be Olivia Dean.

01:44:43

I'm a huge fan.

01:44:44

In.

01:44:44

I'm in.

01:44:45

My brother. Yeah, man. At Olivia Dean. Finally.

01:44:50

Hey.

01:44:51

Can I believe we haven't. No.

01:44:53

She's a star, bro.

01:44:54

Did we talk about that? Me and Mark?

01:44:56

I made it my. I actually made it my sleep rig. When y' all clowned me. And then eventually.

01:45:02

That's the thing. That wasn't a sleeper type of thing. It wasn't a sleeper type of thing. I'm so glad that park said, yo, buy this.

01:45:08

Oh, that's.

01:45:09

I bought it and put it on.

01:45:10

No, she's a star.

01:45:11

She's amazing.

01:45:11

She's a star.

01:45:12

And her first album up, too.

01:45:13

Yes.

01:45:14

Oh, I don't know.

01:45:15

Yeah, like, she's.

01:45:16

She's this album. She's incredible.

01:45:17

She up there.

01:45:18

Fire.

01:45:18

Yeah.

01:45:20

I need to get into, like, the credits and who participated, who wrote, who produced like this.

01:45:26

She, like, some, like, writing it.

01:45:31

That is groovy.

01:45:32

Amazing. That is fun and amazing.

01:45:35

Vibrant.

01:45:36

I think I voted for her for Best new Artist. Hope she wins.

01:45:39

She. Her album being so good is up. My Grammy predictions.

01:45:42

Yo, fam. Yeah, I know. From out of state. She. They did the Garden and was calling me like, yo, could. Could you pull some strings to get tickets? I'm like, that ain't my bag.

01:45:52

Like, I know. Tell them, get money. Yo, stop calling you for everything. I'm not letting you do it today.

01:46:01

That's good.

01:46:01

I'm good. Why broke calling you, man? Like, yo. Nah.

01:46:07

She was selling out everywhere.

01:46:09

That Olivia Dean album is incredible.

01:46:10

Yes, it is.

01:46:11

Hey. And it answered some of my question as to why some of my favorite R B wasn't coming out.

01:46:17

Oh, yeah, she back some people down.

01:46:18

Yeah.

01:46:19

Yeah.

01:46:19

No, that answered it. Yeah, that answered it. I'm like, oh, yes.

01:46:25

I would do the same.

01:46:28

Wait for this little speeding hot, piping hot train to slow down. Because this girl is yo.

01:46:34

Young.

01:46:35

Yeah. When she first came out, this girl is young, hot.

01:46:39

She's 26. Her first album was two. 20, 23.

01:46:43

So, yeah, you gotta watch when these young come out and you could tell that they have fresh ideas. I mean.

01:46:51

It'S just.

01:46:52

She's really. I don't necessarily look at it as, like, revolutionary new music. It's just really good.

01:46:57

It's refreshing.

01:46:58

The songwriting is great.

01:46:59

The songwriting is great.

01:47:00

Production is great. It's is great.

01:47:01

That little British accent helps a little bit, too.

01:47:02

Oh, it does something for me.

01:47:03

Always.

01:47:04

Musically.

01:47:05

Yeah.

01:47:06

Music.

01:47:07

She's also a beautiful, beautiful girl.

01:47:09

I. I see it. I don't see beauty.

01:47:11

Yeah.

01:47:11

But she remind me of when one of them dropped one of them. Nora Jones, Avril, or what's that other little.

01:47:17

It's more snowish to me than.

01:47:18

It's more snow Leger.

01:47:19

But I was never going to say that. Oh, I was never going to say what y' all just said. Why y' all said that?

01:47:25

I said it.

01:47:25

Yeah.

01:47:26

That's a whole.

01:47:26

Was talking about. No, that's what I'm talking about. I, I, I. Hey, I salute Snow. I think Snow is doing the right thing. Right?

01:47:36

Snow's amazing, too.

01:47:37

She's amazing. The Nora Jones comparison I would make in May earlier was just in terms of I think she's going to catch, you know, Nora Jones's first Grammys. She just bodied everything. Don't know why I won everything. That whole album, which is a. Damn it. A perfect album.

01:47:47

Yeah, it was.

01:47:47

Won everything. I think she's going to have that kind of success.

01:47:49

Is she performing at the Grammys? Yes.

01:47:51

Yes. Yeah, she's in the.

01:47:52

She's in the.

01:47:53

She's in the.

01:47:54

She's in. She's doing the background work, too.

01:47:56

Look, she's doing the best new artist segment. You know, they do the medley of all artists.

01:48:00

Yeah.

01:48:00

So it's Addison Ray, Alex Warren, Cat's Eye, Leon Thomas, Lola Young, Olivia Dean, Somber, and the Marias.

01:48:07

Yeah, they could fall.

01:48:08

That's my. That's, that's. That's my favorite segment out of all the awards shows last couple years in recent years.

01:48:14

What's the girl that killed last year or two years ago.

01:48:17

I need more than that.

01:48:18

The new chick, the one you kept making jokes about. Oh, I know you talking about the one that had the earring in her. You know, it was a white girl that killed.

01:48:27

Oh, Billy Eilish. No.

01:48:31

She going to do that.

01:48:33

Chaperone didn't clean up.

01:48:34

Yeah, she did.

01:48:35

I don't remember her cleaning up.

01:48:36

Yeah, she cleaned. There was a couple years.

01:48:38

You came in here cracking jokes. You came in here cracking jokes because we ain't know who she was.

01:48:42

But she bodied.

01:48:42

The speech is when she bodied and she killed.

01:48:44

But when she bodied, the speech is not when she cleaned up.

01:48:47

Year, I think.

01:48:47

Okay.

01:48:48

I think she won best new artist that year, if I recall correctly.

01:48:51

Best new artist.

01:48:51

Okay, then I'm mistaken.

01:48:53

Yeah, it's Olivia's year.

01:48:55

Olivia performing.

01:48:56

Yeah, that was last year.

01:48:57

Leon performing and clips. Performing means I should leave the Grammys happy. And all the people that I think should win will win something.

01:49:05

Yeah.

01:49:06

Yeah, I think so.

01:49:07

Okay. And I'm excited to see Trevor Noah. I'm excited to just see.

01:49:12

And like you just said, artists, they're getting their black viewership back. Like when you start highlighting the clips are going to perform with Pharrell. When you start highlighting Leon Thomas, it's going to now bring some of the diversity back to. To the viewership, in my opinion. You know, blacks come kind of boycotting them unless it's us. You got to watch it for work. But a lot of people don't be with the Grammys like that.

01:49:36

No, they've been doing pretty good in recent years. One year better.

01:49:39

They got a lot better.

01:49:40

Ever since that whole weekend versus the Grammys thing, it seems like they picked.

01:49:43

It up and they fired everybody.

01:49:45

Yeah. Yeah. When?

01:49:46

Dude, it's like, yo, we gotta step your game up. That was crazy.

01:49:50

And I ain't gonna hold you. And it's back to the young. Not no more. What a good time to be single. If you're just thinking about it, right? You got football all weekend. These hoes next weekend, you get to be announced watching the Grammys weekend after that, you get whatever you. You get allstar week. February, like outside of Valentine's Day. Good time to be by. By yourself. You and your dick beater.

01:50:13

Valentine's Day might not be the worst day to be single. Save a lot of money.

01:50:17

Actually, that's a real good time. Real good time to be single. Have y' all started working on your Valentine's Day gifts? Let me tell mine now. If you listen. Nada. Sporty. Sporty started working.

01:50:26

I'm working on it.

01:50:26

Sporty Thieves. Hey, let me queue it up. Don't believe me?

01:50:30

Let me queue it it up your mouth. Say one thing.

01:50:37

Instagram.

01:50:38

We'll see it on her gram.

01:50:39

Big Dog.

01:50:40

Yeah, we hear you.

01:50:41

I'm excited to see you be talking.

01:50:43

All heavy and then you look on. Yeah, I know.

01:50:48

Yeah. You know, every Sporty Thieves song is about the same thing.

01:50:52

They got more than one song.

01:50:53

Wow.

01:50:54

I'm playing.

01:50:56

The albums.

01:50:57

True cinema. I got albums.

01:50:59

Well, they have this and they have not. And they do have another song.

01:51:10

Like, she can't say hi. What? Not even a dollar from us.

01:51:23

From us? Us? You don't know that. All her mark know is, yeah, that's us.

01:51:33

That was a hit.

01:51:36

Ass went triple.

01:51:38

Platinum in the Tri State.

01:51:39

No, that.

01:51:40

That was my.

01:51:40

That went dominant.

01:51:42

You jersey was bopping to it, too.

01:51:45

Yo, congratulations, Joel. Embiid is looking amazing. The six look amazing. I know me and you might have had a bed at the start of the season.

01:51:52

We didn't this time.

01:51:52

I was talking a lot of.

01:51:53

But I told you, we're gonna be fine if we help it.

01:51:55

But you guys, thank you. You gotta feel good about where you stand as a basketball team in the city. I also wanted to ask you two guys, what do y' all think about the slavery exhibits that are being removed from Philadelphia's Independence National Historic Park. I want to ask the two Black Panthers on the show, like, what's going on in Philadelphia?

01:52:12

Being at Philadelphia? Don't take no. We're suing.

01:52:16

Like, I thought Philly was like a pro black.

01:52:18

Like, look, this is Donald Trump. This is his direct orders. Donald Trump. Whole thing is like, we going, you know, erase everything that happened, and we're not going to focus on the past. But they came to Philadelphia with that.

01:52:30

We want. We going to sue Ice. Our sheriff stood toe to toe. We suing the government for these statues and these removals. That's what we do. We resist, man.

01:52:38

Yeah. We ain't one of them. We ain't know none of that. You can't just come to Philly doing what the you want.

01:52:43

Yeah.

01:52:43

No, you can't do that.

01:52:44

All right. And there's our Philly report question.

01:52:47

That's it.

01:52:48

Circling back to this Valentine's thing. Cuz I got tickets to New Edition the night before. Isn't that enough? No, New Edition, boys.

01:52:56

It might be.

01:52:57

Y' all was so gassed about that concert.

01:52:59

Park's got to not be in these talks, cuz he playing from a different game.

01:53:02

I'm trying to play Park's game.

01:53:04

I think if you combine it with some romance things.

01:53:08

Let me. Let me help you out. Nobody in this room can play that Parks game. And I'm not talking about the white game. No, at all. The other game, I think.

01:53:17

I think Ice could play that game.

01:53:18

Neither one. Oh, you don't know.

01:53:21

I don't know.

01:53:21

Ice can't play that game.

01:53:22

I can't play that game.

01:53:23

I think Ish could play the game.

01:53:24

Parks's wife pays half the rent.

01:53:27

She doesn't pay half the rent.

01:53:29

Or she pays rent, she pays half of bills, or she contributes money.

01:53:33

A significant portion.

01:53:33

No, it's his business to tell.

01:53:35

I. I keep it on a low 3 million, tops.

01:53:38

His. His wife, like, she don't know what he makes. What? Like he got a really good situation going on over there. He.

01:53:46

Look at him. Look at him look crazy.

01:53:50

I think it could play the same game. I think he does play the same game.

01:53:52

He can't and doesn't. He can't and he don't. Yeah, tie your little shoes up.

01:53:57

He don't believe in Valentine's Day. He plays even hard. Harder ball than I do, sir.

01:54:01

On air, Ice and Ish pay for a lot more than they bring to the air.

01:54:06

Who said that?

01:54:06

And the streets be telling otherwise. The streets. The streets be telling.

01:54:10

I never said you could smell it on ice.

01:54:12

No.

01:54:12

So tell park since he thinks he.

01:54:13

Not dancing with it.

01:54:14

What?

01:54:15

Remember Christmas?

01:54:16

I pay my mortgage.

01:54:18

But what are you doing for Valentine's Day?

01:54:20

Nothing.

01:54:20

See.

01:54:23

I ain't doing nothing either.

01:54:24

I'm so.

01:54:25

You're a liar.

01:54:27

So confused what's going on. So you're not doing that for Valentine's Day because she don't want nothing or that's something y' all agree with?

01:54:32

We just don't do it like when I first met my girl. Yeah.

01:54:35

Val.

01:54:35

I don't do Valentine's Day. I don't do Halloween.

01:54:37

Christmas.

01:54:38

On Christmas, you want a gift?

01:54:40

You want these bills paid?

01:54:41

No, I do.

01:54:41

Christmas didn't. Wasn't. Bills get paid this year.

01:54:46

Wa.

01:54:47

This said you want light or you want gift?

01:54:50

That's not why.

01:54:51

So what you like on Christmas?

01:54:52

You paid the bill.

01:54:53

She is a gift.

01:54:56

Don't listen to him. Yo. That's what.

01:54:58

Don't.

01:54:58

That's not why.

01:55:01

Credit card.

01:55:01

Just take your bill your. Your and run with it. I asked my girl. My girl wanted a cardier watch. So I asked my girl like, yo, do you want the watch or do you want me to pay off your credit cards? And then she said credit cards. I would have bought the watch if she said she wanted the watch. I would have said both.

01:55:16

She wanted both.

01:55:18

Crazy.

01:55:19

It was both.

01:55:19

It was both.

01:55:20

Would have been unlimited. Sucks for the rest of the month.

01:55:23

You want a card? You want a card?

01:55:25

You got to pay for, yo.

01:55:27

Anyway, people in relationships don't get their dick suck. Stop.

01:55:32

Huh?

01:55:33

Not by the person in a relationship with. For sure.

01:55:37

Right? So back to what I was saying.

01:55:39

When I first met One of those.

01:55:43

Definitely one of the joke. No, dog. I. I pay enough. I pay a lot, bro.

01:55:50

Valentine's Day. You getting your valentine a card. No me from Tiffany.

01:55:57

He's g. Tiffany got a new Valentine's Day.

01:55:59

Exactly. I promise you there will be no Valentine's Day. Get for me. I can assure you.

01:56:03

I love to watch men sport their women on holidays.

01:56:06

That's so I'm tapped still. I'm waiting for March like a.

01:56:09

And then you have her birthday.

01:56:11

My money is back to back.

01:56:13

Mine too.

01:56:14

Birthday, Christmas, all these kids birthdays. I'm tapped. I'm done. I don't have it. I'm. I'm. I'm. You shouldn't.

01:56:20

Me.

01:56:20

No. Hell no. Building the house. Get the out my face. Go sit down somewhere.

01:56:25

So Parks.

01:56:26

Yeah.

01:56:26

New addition. And then I just dinner like Dinner.

01:56:29

You got to do a little something, bro.

01:56:30

I mean, in front row. Does that matter?

01:56:34

First off, it should always be.

01:56:36

I think she ice television.

01:56:38

That don't mean nothing. And gave Ricky Bell some money. So he come down there, said his front row. Yeah, that's the norm.

01:56:45

Yeah, it's regular.

01:56:46

He just got. You see, that's the problem. Yeah, that's the problem.

01:56:50

That's the game, bro.

01:56:51

All right.

01:56:51

Game is the game. So let me see what day Valentine's Day fall on.

01:56:54

It's like a Saturday.

01:56:54

A Saturday?

01:56:55

Oh, yeah, no, yeah, it's a Saturday.

01:56:57

Cuz the show was a Friday night. That's why I was like, oh, that is a Friday.

01:57:01

Oh, It's Friday at 13.

01:57:03

These chicks think something lit about it.

01:57:04

That's what I'm trying to tell you, dog.

01:57:06

Something lit you do with something.

01:57:07

She leaving with something.

01:57:08

I better take my nap on Friday.

01:57:11

I better take my nap on Friday.

01:57:13

What is that? I need a good holiday dick. Oh, okay. You getting some holiday dick. And I don't think there's nothing wrong.

01:57:20

With saying holiday dick because girls definitely try to give up for the holidays.

01:57:23

You got to get a new. You got to get a new fresh batch.

01:57:26

Fresh batch bald.

01:57:28

Fresh batch bald. Yeah, I need some now. Corey keep coming to my door talking about some.

01:57:35

Yeah, fresh ones.

01:57:37

Cory took three of my good sex pills.

01:57:41

It's crazy.

01:57:42

And you don't know how to tell.

01:57:43

Your man when you running low or some and you need it. You like, I need another like. Damn, me too. God damn.

01:57:50

You take a whole sex pill, huh? Yo, you. You is crazy. I did angel dust.

01:57:56

I have a high time. I have a very high time. We trying to get hard, but I'm just saying. This crazy again.

01:58:14

You ain't getting high. You getting hard.

01:58:16

Y.

01:58:16

It's not the point.

01:58:19

Yo, your bloodstream ain't your.

01:58:22

It went over your head.

01:58:23

Do you guys want to talk about the canceling of Vince Staples's show?

01:58:28

That sucked.

01:58:29

Yeah, that did suck. We apologize, Vince. Yep.

01:58:32

Yeah, well, we apologize. We ain't cancel it.

01:58:35

I watched it too.

01:58:36

Because what happens is we should have came in and made a big to do about it. We should have definitely made it our priority in our business to watch it, support it, and come in and talk about it.

01:58:45

I unfortunately never saw it. Yeah, me and I heard great things about it.

01:58:48

You didn't see the first season.

01:58:49

I saw the first season and I heard it was amazing.

01:58:50

First season was really.

01:58:51

The first season was amazing. Second season was still very good. I blame Netflix in terms of marketing and advertising, there was almost none. I think Vince was even going around saying, if I don't tweet this, no one's gonna watch it because they don't know it exists.

01:59:01

And that's my point. So to us, I'm talking about that's our job. If we know he not getting a proper marketing and that's our homeboy, we should have marketed his show more.

01:59:13

Put it on Netflix. But I get what you're saying. We should help. But yeah, Netflix should do.

01:59:18

I thought we were really excited about it and, and talked about it as soon as we learned it was coming.

01:59:22

Yeah, he got picked, but that was la. We talked about it. Once we knew they re upped them for season two, we went crazy. Season two came out and we didn't.

01:59:30

Netflix should have had Vince go to where his audience is. And they didn't. They didn't. I'm not, I'm not owning that. I was on the phone with Vince while he was in New York trying desperately to get to this show because. Cause niggas and his schedule was jam packed with the other shit. So I mean, he went where it was a priority for him to go and they got those results. It also seemed like in speaking to him that he was aware, a little bit like he was aware that I'm going. He may have been against some things, fighting silent battles behind the scenes. And now when it's promo time, you send him to Good Day New York. And I think Z. That ZWAY interview, if it wasn't for that was amazing. The ZWAY interview took off, was excellent. If it wasn't for that, he went to a bunch of whitewash.

02:00:23

I don't think I saw him anywhere else, honestly.

02:00:25

And that's that. But Vince is a friend of the show. He's actually family of the show at this point. I support everything that he does. I don't think this will be his last shot. He's extremely talented.

02:00:36

So talented.

02:00:37

Extremely talented.

02:00:38

I'm pretty sure someone else will pick up the show.

02:00:39

That's what I was thinking. Somebody else pick it up because it's good. It's not like it's corny. It just wasn't handled properly.

02:00:45

Yeah, yeah, take it to fx. Take it to Max. Just take it. Take it somewhere else. Or write a new show. Or write a new show. I don't think this is the last that we've seen of Vince Staples on a big or small screen.

02:00:57

Yeah, Vince is brilliant.

02:00:58

Yeah, that's, that's, that's one of My sucks though. Vince, one of my young mentors, man. He mentors me.

02:01:04

That's dope.

02:01:04

That's my guy guy Ab. Absolutely love him. Really?

02:01:07

Wait, he's your what?

02:01:08

He's my mentor.

02:01:09

No.

02:01:10

What is he to you?

02:01:10

What?

02:01:10

You just called it.

02:01:11

He's my mentor.

02:01:12

His mentor is disabled. My button. Okay.

02:01:15

Yeah, he mentors me on some things. I left the game in 06, you know, I mean, I need the young to tell me what's going on out there, you know, I mean, I did.

02:01:23

My first show in Jersey and I came out to pump, pump, pump it up.

02:01:26

Did you pump it up?

02:01:27

Yes.

02:01:27

I was supposed to come because Mark was supposed to invite me.

02:01:30

You didn't show show up. It's the second one.

02:01:31

Mark never called and never invited me.

02:01:33

Joe, it's cool.

02:01:35

How'd it go?

02:01:36

It was great. And I was going to say, cuz, is that in your area, New Brunswick? Are y' all like from the area?

02:01:40

They are.

02:01:40

We're not from.

02:01:41

They are.

02:01:41

No, we're. No, we're not.

02:01:42

They are. These two ass.

02:01:45

Can you please tell me what's up with New Brunswick?

02:01:47

Like what kind of area they got to tell you?

02:01:49

It's a college town.

02:01:50

Okay?

02:01:50

Ruckus, Dom.

02:01:51

That's where like them soft be at.

02:01:52

These two Ruckus dominates.

02:01:54

I feel like it was like.

02:01:55

And they got mad probably projects. And you won't go down there talking that.

02:01:58

Not a one.

02:01:58

They run you out of there just like they ran you out of Jersey City.

02:02:01

I won't go there for a day.

02:02:02

The people of New Brunswick were cool as I want y' all to know that they were. And they were nicely dressed.

02:02:07

And they treated me good when I was at Ruckers too. Let me stop talking. They did, yeah. When I went to Ruckus. Hell yeah. I was excited to have me any. What else? What else, what else? What else? What else? What else is important? Vince, I love you, man.

02:02:22

Yeah, we love you, Vince.

02:02:22

Yes, Right back. Ain't no thing.

02:02:26

LMA has a new project dropping. I pre ordered it, cuz. Stan, of course.

02:02:32

Same executive producer beef.

02:02:34

And actually before we even get to that. Come on, cuz. I meant. I meant to play this the other beef. Let's see. I'm joking. It's not really one.

02:02:44

He likes it here.

02:02:45

Here we go. Here we go. Come on. Let me do Ella. Let me do Ella. Right, man. Man ain't going to act like shame and dropping no heat around here. That's still Ella. Let's not get it up around Here, Wait a minute. Brand new LMA's record is called 100 and as Fire as it is, that is not why they brought the topic up. So who's executive producing LMA's new project?

02:03:39

Mustard, of course. Also Jason Tatum. Get to see who's a better executive producer.

02:03:47

LeBron building an empire here or Jason Tatum.

02:03:50

Oh, yeah. Jason, I need your shoe sizes, yo. I need your shoe sizes.

02:03:55

He tells the area.

02:03:55

Jason Tatum asked me, but I gotta.

02:03:57

Get it to him in 20, 23.

02:03:59

I gotta get it to him. But anyway. All right, so.

02:04:01

Hey, yo, JT. A 10 my. That's all you got? He watches.

02:04:06

See you that type of word for what? Hey, yo, jt, your man, you know, give me your size.

02:04:12

The. Give me your size 17.

02:04:15

That ain't for you to yo, JJT. Don't say yo, JT again.

02:04:19

Hey, he was at the finals game up there.

02:04:20

That's why I don't introduce none of my people like that.

02:04:24

I don't introduce you to none of my peoples for other reasons. I know.

02:04:27

Mandy. I know. Danny, I know your people already. I know your little people. I know. Oh, I know. It's the cool gang.

02:04:35

You corny.

02:04:37

How do we feel? I know. Yeah. Want to make some jokes about this? I can't because Jason Tatum is my man.

02:04:41

I think it's fire.

02:04:42

Jason Tatum is one of my better Internet friends.

02:04:45

I think it's fire.

02:04:46

What's the Internet friend?

02:04:47

Not a real friend.

02:04:48

People that you just social people that.

02:04:50

Yeah. Like people that you root for that you pretty fly with digitally.

02:04:55

Oh, I have a lot of those.

02:04:56

Exchange little LOLs in the DL.

02:04:58

Yeah.

02:04:59

Yeah.

02:04:59

He's. He's. Congrats, bros. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a good digital bros. Good digital friend of mine.

02:05:04

Little hate speech in the dm.

02:05:06

So I try to hold it down for him, and they pretty private with their relationship. And because they put so much effort toward that. I don't come on air talking about them two like that. And that's probably a large reason why Jason Tatum won't come sit down over here because he don't trust us to not bring up like that.

02:05:23

I think it's fire.

02:05:24

Why?

02:05:26

Because he a cupcake ass.

02:05:28

That's why you.

02:05:29

The icing.

02:05:30

That's why.

02:05:32

Wait a minute. The icing.

02:05:34

That's what you said, the icing to your cupcake.

02:05:38

You just caught that. You might want to take that back.

02:05:43

I love you, too.

02:05:45

I think. I think that you.

02:05:46

The icing.

02:05:50

You don't want to be the cupcake.

02:05:51

L is Ella May, right? She. She's one of them. And I think that if they had an opportunity where he could necessarily fund her project or some. You could kind of bypass past a bunch of the.

02:06:04

That's maybe that is.

02:06:05

You get what I'm saying? Like you.

02:06:06

You don't think it's a creative input. You think it's strictly financial?

02:06:09

It could be. You don't think Jason Tatum know slaps?

02:06:11

Yeah, I do. But again, if I could finance my shorty's project, she don't need to label as much. She don't have to have as much label support. And we could do it that way. It's worth a shot if that would make you a ep.

02:06:24

Yeah, so.

02:06:25

So that's part of the conversation, right?

02:06:27

Because I'm an EP.

02:06:28

That's all EP is.

02:06:29

I'm an EP. I got a 500 million dollar contract and you my girl.

02:06:34

I thought the EP was the person that funds things.

02:06:37

So it depends. In music, it's also sometimes a creative.

02:06:40

EP means anything.

02:06:43

Is like the most vague term ever.

02:06:45

And if I sell a million albums, that's putting another check over here in my household, we going to build an empire together.

02:06:52

You think Jason's going to want his cut?

02:06:54

No, in the household, not his pocket. You think.

02:06:59

You think really wealthy men are looking to their girl to form in a business empire with them? Tell me more.

02:07:08

I think that. I think. Let me take this, let me rewind this. I think. I think it depends on the mentality of the man. Some really wealthy men, from what I've seen, want their wife to just shut up and be seen. And that's a control thing. Then there's other men that got a little bit more security. They want to build something with their wives. I think think that when you get married or you have a brand, I think it just helps the brand. When you married to somebody that's successful too, and y' all just working together in concert.

02:07:36

Mark Ice Parks.

02:07:37

I'm good with it if it's a business ep. If it's. I paid for this project. Where I get nervous is when people start dating artists. And I'm not saying this is Jason Tatum, but that when I saw the headline, that's what I. That's what I thought. When you start dating artists, you start having creative influence, input, and you start wanting. I be spitting y right. Them drums could be tweaked a little bit, you know, And I've been in that situation where like you date an artist, you know what I mean? And you like Start giving input on songs and thoughts and things like that, and you start really thinking you.

02:08:08

That's what you did.

02:08:09

Yeah.

02:08:10

I thought they were trying to control your speeches.

02:08:14

I think actually rock landed on us.

02:08:17

I'm say landed on us.

02:08:18

Did you any. Answer the question, though. If. If you were super wealthy, would you be looking toward your wife to be a business empire with you or be it some type of power?

02:08:28

No, I would want to just create with her. I would want to. I would want to partner with her on things.

02:08:33

You're doing it right now.

02:08:34

Exactly. Yeah. That's a perfect example. Like, I'm. I'm bleeding money from this.

02:08:37

He says he's not super wealthy. That's why I didn't.

02:08:39

But I'm not super. I got no money. But I love to, like, work with my wife on stuff. But I don't want her, like you said, like, working on my speeches. I'm not gonna be writing her books, you know? I mean, like, we can have our own worlds, but I like the idea saying we can build stuff together. All I'm saying is I've seen people start to get in the studio, get in the booth, and don't know. And that's what I don't want. I just don't want any creative offering.

02:08:59

What about you, man?

02:09:00

I would absolutely want my partner, if I was wealthy, to do it. To build it together, but. Yo sit your FAA to this even Can I be a little toxic?

02:09:12

Please, please.

02:09:14

Why can't this just be a saying? This might go. And in the event we don't work.

02:09:19

Out, I want my piece.

02:09:22

I think they're married.

02:09:23

In the event that this don't work.

02:09:25

Out, they're not married. They're a day from it.

02:09:27

In the. In the event this don't work out, I'm Jason tatum. I got $600 million. I'm still young as. I don't need Jet.

02:09:34

He'll be fine.

02:09:34

Parks, did I need to ask you.

02:09:36

What's the question?

02:09:39

Nice.

02:09:41

If you were super wealthy. Yeah. Would you be looking to your partner for you guys to become a business powerhouse if she was into it?

02:09:51

I've tried to encourage certain things, and it doesn't necessarily work out.

02:09:54

You guys make some noise.

02:09:59

Hold on, sir.

02:09:59

Hey, Big moment.

02:10:00

Hey, Joe.

02:10:01

These are such cupcakes.

02:10:02

Joe Facts.

02:10:04

We like to ask you a question now as well.

02:10:05

And I want motors. Answer this, too.

02:10:07

My baby's eyes.

02:10:08

Thanks for being on. Thank you so much.

02:10:17

This the main, right? This not Patreon. This the main.

02:10:20

She listen.

02:10:23

No, his image though YouTube lines, comments. This is interesting, right? Because a Cameron conversation went viral recently where he was talking to his ex, and his ex was saying, yo, when we were together, you didn't support me? And he was saying, no, I supported you. I just wasn't into your business ventures because I thought that they were bad investments. Investments. And you take that as I don't support you. And that couldn't be further from the truth. It was an interesting. It was an interesting talk that they were having. But if I. If I'm. If I'm guessing. I just told. I just had to talk with my girl last month. I think I told y' all where. Hey, what do you want for your birthday? I want content building. No, sorry. And she said, why? Because I don't think that that's the greatest investment. Then she says, but it's a gift. Nah, it ain't.

02:11:32

Why it's a gift?

02:11:33

Cause it ain't a gift.

02:11:34

Why it's not a gift? You said, what do you.

02:11:37

It's a gift that's gonna keep on giving.

02:11:38

That's right.

02:11:39

But you said, what do you want for your birthday? And she said, x. So if I want X for my birthday as a gift, get me X.

02:11:48

Y' all allowed this? Nasty.

02:11:49

That ain't a one off. That ain't a one off. That's the problem.

02:11:52

That's why it's not a gift.

02:11:53

It'd be like if. If somebody said, I want a cell phone for my birthday, but you got to pay the bill every month.

02:11:56

It's a bill. It's not a gift. It's a bill.

02:11:59

Well, it's also his line of work, so it's going to become. If she gets really into it. Now, you are executive producing whatever she's done, whether you like it or not.

02:12:07

Yeah.

02:12:09

Want a content building? I like your style, girl.

02:12:11

Yeah, I'm cool on that. Some business. Some business ideas that, like Mark was saying, like, you're inheriting maintenance, you're inheriting fees, staff fees, supply fees. It's a lot more fees and time. That's time away from me.

02:12:28

No, I'm talking about your.

02:12:32

Can we talk about the conversation that Cam had with his ex? Can we talk about it?

02:12:36

But I want Joe to answer the question first. He didn't spend.

02:12:39

Yeah, okay.

02:12:40

I was waiting for him to answer the question.

02:12:41

Yeah, he's good at that, too. I wrote notes.

02:12:44

No, I'm not looking to my partner to help us be some type of power couple. If she wants to go join, like, a sewing club, though, or.

02:12:54

Knitting club.

02:12:55

Some knitting volunteer at the old folks home.

02:12:58

I encourage her to find some to do with yourself. Do something.

02:13:02

How about you, Mona?

02:13:05

Mona ain't getting no. No time. Mona is far a long way from me.

02:13:09

Like if I like the idea of like chasing money with my partner or whatever. But I know in reality when I've done it, it's like that spill over to the house because y' all get to fussing about. So if you almost like I feel like it's hard to cut it off. Whatever y' all fussing about, investment you made. Sometimes that comes to the house.

02:13:30

Who gonna back up?

02:13:31

Exactly.

02:13:33

Usually y' all go on me. Y' all call me ghetto or drug dealer, but I promise any business adventure I've had with a man, it was some drug so far, but it's the same thing. It's a business and you make money.

02:13:43

If you a halfway decent dude out there and you looking to manage a comedian, there a easy entryway. It's a real easy entryway and she don't even need a big beat.

02:13:54

She.

02:13:56

If you. If you a halfway decent.

02:13:58

Why halfway decent, Jo?

02:13:59

Cuz it ain't going to take like no, but that's.

02:14:02

We still not shooting for that. Like, stop.

02:14:04

But halfway decent is good.

02:14:06

No decent. First of all, if you're halfway decent and you come in my life, my mentor and my new brothers are gonna smell it and they're gonna get rid of you. Correct.

02:14:13

That's a fact.

02:14:14

Indeed, yes.

02:14:15

We play too much with these. No, but seriously, I feel like now if you tell me you in particular tell me that the. That a drug business that I might have had with a man is any different from a legal business. It's the same thing where it's like we can't cut it off once we get in the crib. We still have. It's still tension from what we were doing outside. I don't think that that would be different with a legal business than an illegal business.

02:14:37

Seriously, it would be a little bit.

02:14:38

Oh, I think it is.

02:14:39

It is a little bit.

02:14:39

Why? Because it's more stressful.

02:14:42

Always got to be on. When you sell crack to the community. Legal, you gotta just say, we'll talk about it on Saturday.

02:14:49

Listen, make sure you put the double lock on the door before you come upstairs. Before you come upstairs, make sure you tuck that in the crawl space.

02:14:58

So if they kick the door right.

02:15:00

I do kind of want to hear the fights. What were the fights about?

02:15:03

I had to shoot that over your dumb.

02:15:08

Cut it wrong. It's Crazy.

02:15:10

Cuz it's something right in the tip of my. I'm not even going to do it to myself.

02:15:12

That is hilarious.

02:15:13

Listen, but that's what I think. I do like the idea of us chasing the same thing. Especially with the economy, how hard it is out here. So if y' all got something, y' all got something. You know, average person the is not a great singer. And this is good at sports like in.

02:15:26

In average people Grace.

02:15:28

You know what I mean? So it's like if we got something, we going to push it and sometimes we need all the energy to make it into this thing, you know. But I don't know. I. I like the idea of that being separate. I do. Yeah.

02:15:40

I think it's fun about you. When you used to get a new.

02:15:43

Girl, they had money, right?

02:15:49

That's not where I was going, but I think they did. I know every time you got.

02:15:53

That's what you ain't real quick, right?

02:15:55

No, it's the fact that they sunned you out and hired you to their business and now you looking up in encyclopedias and all.

02:16:01

I love that. Is that what happened? Like you've had some of your hired.

02:16:05

Why would you now you don't want to hang out no more.

02:16:07

Why would you not be supportive of your girl's dream?

02:16:09

And that's what I love about you, cuz I feel like you one of them my friends. I got a.

02:16:12

That's how I am with a. I stop speaking immediately.

02:16:15

Don't leave me.

02:16:17

You over there. I ain't with that don't never stop.

02:16:20

Calls or none of that.

02:16:20

Yo, that's not me.

02:16:21

I stop speaking to all y'.

02:16:22

All. And he's lying, yo. And he's lying like this with me and him used to be outside at. At the height of our outsideness. Yeah, my girl used to be mad as she should.

02:16:33

This keep dragging.

02:16:34

So he's sitting here lying, but it's okay. But I think that any out here, especially if you have the ability to stand behind your girl dreams. Why would you not?

02:16:43

Well, let me ask you this. Have you ever did it reverse where she chased you dreams with you?

02:16:46

Yes.

02:16:46

Okay.

02:16:47

And them same chicks that was getting money, they was helping me get money too.

02:16:50

No cash. He know I'm a jig and low spending lot to do.

02:16:54

Go ahead ta go.

02:16:57

You see him tapping.

02:16:58

You know you're bad. You a to do that.

02:17:00

Well when he that one way he put her on in his business, she. She ran off.

02:17:05

I knew that's what she ran off.

02:17:06

With all the houses this disgusting. That was his darkest type of period. And like he was really down and depressed.

02:17:12

Did you kill that?

02:17:13

He wanted to un. Alive himself.

02:17:14

I beat that really happen.

02:17:16

I was there for him. Say I wasn't there.

02:17:20

How many houses, Joey? How many houses, Joey?

02:17:23

I got lots of them. What I'm saying.

02:17:25

I didn't think you had.

02:17:26

He was broke.

02:17:27

Shut the up.

02:17:28

He was down bad.

02:17:30

She wiped him clean.

02:17:31

Yes.

02:17:31

Oh, my God. What the. What happened?

02:17:35

You want to know the story?

02:17:37

They don't know. They really don't know.

02:17:38

I really don't know. I thought he was lying.

02:17:39

They don't know.

02:17:40

Shorty took your. Your.

02:17:41

Sorry.

02:17:42

Please. You have to talk about.

02:17:43

If you don't tell us, Joe's gonna tell us.

02:17:44

We can't enjoy your good times if we don't talk about your damn short ver.

02:17:48

What happened?

02:17:48

You ain't gonna tell everything. He had.

02:17:50

She did some trickery business.

02:17:52

He was so down.

02:17:53

Was you blinded by the.

02:17:53

Tell us the story, man.

02:17:55

Nothing. In life, you make bad business decisions.

02:17:59

Literally nothing.

02:17:59

Yo, where you don't necessarily.

02:18:01

To the cleanest. Have you ever heard the term take to the cleaners, dog? She took my man. She took my man to the cleaner.

02:18:14

And when you said you were there for him, you bought his next investment property so he could flip it.

02:18:20

Just.

02:18:20

Talking to you.

02:18:22

Outside.

02:18:24

I gave him a shoulder to lean on and to penetrate. What?

02:18:30

That's nice.

02:18:32

Did you hear yourself?

02:18:33

Yourself for real be feeling down on themselves. Feel like they can't go get it on their own. Yo, I got you, yo. Come on. Yeah, we out tonight. Yeah, we out tonight.

02:18:42

I got you down to go pull it yourself.

02:18:43

Yes.

02:18:44

A real friend.

02:18:45

Real friend.

02:18:45

A real friend.

02:18:47

Thank you.

02:18:47

I'm just trying to understand.

02:18:48

God, what did she do?

02:18:50

You don't think I could go get no box?

02:18:52

Listen, that's not. That's not what we talking about.

02:18:54

You couldn't get no box.

02:18:54

Then we're talking about you being, you know.

02:18:56

Hold on, hold up.

02:18:57

You talking tough now that you cleaned yourself up. Up and got some. That's. That is Cups. Then at that point when you was down and out. Out of luck without a door pot to piss it. No, you couldn't get.

02:19:07

No.

02:19:08

Your eyes was a different color. Your skin looked bad. You was down bad. No, you couldn't. You cleansed yourself up. Look, you bounce back. Look what you did.

02:19:18

I'm not gonna yell or scream. Look, look, you performing. I never been ugly and I never been broken. And I always could talk.

02:19:25

Yeah.

02:19:25

So those Three things in combination. I could get some.

02:19:28

Something you don't know about.

02:19:29

You talking about doing that?

02:19:31

We not going to do that.

02:19:33

You get a bunch of. If they feel like they can get a thousand doors at the end of.

02:19:36

The deal, you can feel what you want to feel.

02:19:38

Feelings don't equal Mona. I was there for him.

02:19:41

I know.

02:19:41

I helped him feel a little better during one of the darker periods of his life.

02:19:46

You about to piss me off.

02:19:47

And sometimes he act like.

02:19:50

Was his eyes brown?

02:19:51

Yeah.

02:19:51

Some wax. Hey, he lost the twinkle. You might have to piss me off. Yeah.

02:19:59

You know, everybody here know it's a joke because imagine you ugly. Can't try.

02:20:04

Didn't even work.

02:20:05

Can't even picture it.

02:20:06

Yo, you so stupid.

02:20:07

But how she take your doors?

02:20:08

Yo, you want to talk about Marcus talking to you?

02:20:10

You going to piss me off Marcus talking to you. I'm done talking to you. Okay. You better talk.

02:20:15

Your girl stick your doors then bad.

02:20:17

Put you out.

02:20:18

That. That didn't ever.

02:20:19

She put you out. Who was there to pick you up? Yeah. Watch yourself. Who was there to pick you up when she kicked you out in the rain? It was raining, too.

02:20:25

Whoever kicked me out, it was raining.

02:20:28

And it was raining. He's standing on. He's standing on River Road talking about. What light you at? I'm telling. I'm at the light. I'm at the light money.

02:20:38

I'll be right.

02:20:39

I'm at the light money. Yeah. He act like he forget.

02:20:44

I act.

02:20:45

The bucks don't act like you forgot. Yo, we've been there for each other in our friendship. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

02:20:52

This is a. Yo, you the greatest.

02:20:55

Funniest.

02:20:55

You the greatest.

02:20:56

Anyway, he never answered my question.

02:20:59

I give.

02:21:00

I was. Oh, tell me what happened.

02:21:02

Nothing. You. Sometimes you enter back little talk, low talk. You could just enter into a business with somebody, and when a business. Business go wrong or the relationship go wrong would be on some.

02:21:16

They dissolve you out.

02:21:18

So she. And she walked with all the stuff.

02:21:20

Yeah.

02:21:20

Yeah.

02:21:21

Have you seen it since?

02:21:22

Yeah.

02:21:22

Y' all good now?

02:21:23

Yeah.

02:21:24

Have you ever hit her physically like a punch or like a shot? Like a good. Like a mush.

02:21:33

You can't.

02:21:34

Ain't good for a mush after burning you out of $200,000.

02:21:37

It's more than that Was a lot more than there.

02:21:39

A lot more than $200,000.

02:21:40

You at the invest fest 10 years after. I ain't seen you after you do that.

02:21:44

Nah.

02:21:44

Oh, yeah.

02:21:45

Y' all tripping you the mush. What's 10?

02:21:47

I'm mushing.

02:21:48

What's 10 from the front? What's 10? What's. What's 10 times 25 grand? Like, I'm bad, man. Let me 250. 10. Yeah, like 250. Work of houses, yo. There more than that, too.

02:22:02

It's all right.

02:22:03

No, but. But you pay attention to the story.

02:22:05

It's a lesson learned, Right?

02:22:06

And the lesson learn was you could have took precautions that made it so it wouldn't happen. So what you did was highlight your mistakes yourself instead of worrying about the fact this dirty scoundrel robbed you of everything you had.

02:22:17

Left you in the rain with a.

02:22:18

Bandana on a stick.

02:22:20

Yeah, she was lesson free.

02:22:22

No, she wasn't.

02:22:23

But she. It was lesson free. Unscathed, not a pro. No jail time.

02:22:28

She was driving.

02:22:29

No community service, no nothing.

02:22:31

He not calling a better business.

02:22:33

He had to go. He had to. To bounce back. That's why it's tough being a guy sometimes. Like, you got to bounce back. No matter what you do.

02:22:38

Got to bounce back. And what happens when you bounce back? Better.

02:22:41

You better than other way eyes more.

02:22:43

Twinkly and they look in their wounds. More doors.

02:22:45

Oh, now they saw, bro.

02:22:46

Don't do that. Let me check my pills. Stop.

02:22:49

What that mean? What do you mean?

02:22:51

He said when you bounce back, your eyes are greener than they ever were. When you bounce back, you doing better than a. That robbed you for the little 250. What's 250 to a millionaire?

02:23:00

She doing bad now.

02:23:01

Yeah.

02:23:02

She still got them houses.

02:23:03

She still got them houses?

02:23:04

No, she wet block.

02:23:06

Oh, damn.

02:23:07

She sold them.

02:23:07

God damn.

02:23:08

They kept the money.

02:23:10

Damn.

02:23:10

It's cool, though.

02:23:11

It sting me, man. Yikes.

02:23:14

They talking about.

02:23:15

I'm not saying a word. I'm chilling. Listen, bro, I don't want.

02:23:18

Just one last question. Were you really like, like really up financially or was Joe just with us?

02:23:23

No, he was down really bad.

02:23:25

No, I wasn't. I wasn't. What he talking about?

02:23:27

That was the poorest.

02:23:27

I lose money in business.

02:23:29

You were still inside. You was still a house.

02:23:32

Do y' all hear this?

02:23:33

I've never seen him border than that.

02:23:35

This such.

02:23:38

I know. For real. I ain't known him his whole life, but I've known him since like 01, at least. Since 01. That was the down baddest I ever seen him. But you got look at him now.

02:23:47

Bad.

02:23:47

It's not even a word.

02:23:48

But take a look at him now. You bounce back. That. Anyway.

02:23:55

That bit.

02:23:57

What else needs our attention? Listen.

02:23:59

Oh, good.

02:23:59

Oh, yeah. No, no, no. This is important. Yo, Charles Barkley time. That ish was wrong.

02:24:04

So Charles Barkley gave a interview the other day, and one of the things he talked about was saying that he wished that he was on TV more because TNT's inside. The NBA has only been on, I think, three or four times all NBA season. The NBA has kind of pulled the plug on that and basically said, this ain't our shit. And Charles is just saying. He said, like I used to say I wouldn't be on tv. I didn't want to do that ESPN shit where you working all them channels. But I do wish he was on TV a little bit. And he said he hoped that things will get better in the spring. So it just seemed to be that the NBA really doesn't fuck with this show. And my theory is that they didn't want the show to exist anymore at all. And instead of just killing the show where they could go elsewhere, they did that industry thing like you do with movies, where you buy it and then you put it on the shelf so no one else can have it. So I just think that's funny. I think it's poetic justice.

02:24:52

Cause I remember when they were on TNT and Charles was clowning ESPN people. I'm not. They do Spanish, they do this, they do that. They work 50 jobs like clowning them. And now he ain't getting.

02:25:00

And be clear. He's. He's still clowning him. He said. He said a lot more than you even said. He was clowning some of the commentators, the experts, the analysts. He was clowning ESPN. 1, 2, 3, Deportez. He was clowning some of the shit that you have to say to even be on tv clown. The amount of times they've been on espn, not just since the NBA season, but this month as a whole. He said they've been there, like, twice or three times this month. He said he don't care if he get fired. He was shooting at the upper, upper executive. Hey, I would love nothing more than to get fired. And y' all have to pay me out the rest of my contract for the next seven years. I triple, triple, triple dare you. Please let me go home and golf. Please let me go home and golf and get paid instead of doing this bullshit. He said a lot. He said a lot. But the big takeaway was that he was upset because the show's not on. There's no airtime. I agree with everything park said. They just wanted that show off of the air and it wasn't really good toward the end.

02:25:51

One of the best shows ever. My opinion toward the end, not so much.

02:25:56

Is it slow down.

02:25:56

Where was I wrong?

02:26:00

You were saying that they'll be fine and they are still on television.

02:26:05

I didn't. I didn't say that. I said the NBA ratings have dropped. I said people would watch the show just to see Charles, Kenny and Ernie and. And Shaq make you laugh. It could be a game with the Pelicans in Milwaukee and will watch for them. I said they were an attraction in and of themselves. And I said that I think the new people that have replaced them are not fan favorites like they were. I ain't say nothing about them being okay. I think them niggas love that job. I think when you rich and you don't got nothing to do coming to work sometimes with niggas that you fuck with doing something that you love. Love I. E Coming to this podcast. It gives a level of enjoyment that we could come up here and talk and still get paid to talk shit like it's cool. I think them would love that job. I think they modified their lives for that job. And I think they tight when that. They expressed that they was tight when that shit got canceled. I just think that those niggas because you came in and was saying that their new assessment would be oh yo, they not working hard enough.

02:27:08

They not playing hard enough. They wouldn't go into the answer analytical stuff about basketball no more. They was just real short with it toward their end of day run.

02:27:17

I think that was the bottom line of my point is that they, they. You can tell that they weren't watching games.

02:27:22

Yeah.

02:27:22

You said that they were extra critical of their business partners and the product had just deteriorated. It's still a performance based business. Like I think that EJ and Kenny Smith will be fine because. Because they're really, really good at just explaining things. Shaq got too much business and too much money to really care about.

02:27:44

He's not a basketball.

02:27:44

But no, the funny part is EJ and Kenny would handle the analytical stuff. What made that show that show was the banter, the comedy and all of that that also came from Chuck and Shaq. When you take those two that are the journal like the more journalistic, if that's a word.

02:28:03

They're actually just analysts. They're basketball analysts.

02:28:06

Check and Charles and bring it all together. I think it's a real good gumbo that everybody liked because the.

02:28:11

The.

02:28:11

The comedic portion and the performative portion came From Chuck and Shaq. But what if everybody didn't like it? Like what if they ran whatever they little focal groups or they numbers research and marketing and all that focus test.

02:28:22

Yeah, yeah.

02:28:23

And saw like people don't want that no more. Oh maybe it might have started to dip. But be clear, they were the number one sports show for a very long time. Long time. Very long time. And deserved and the rating said so maybe it took a dip. That's possible. Yeah, it's possible. I'm not saying that but we're not gonna say that they them had a state they. We know what they was. Yeah, they stayed.

02:28:43

They're a super entertaining show and I always thought they were and I think I agree with you. Shaq and Charles added the personalities to what Kenny was doing which was the analytics and then Ernie is probably as good a host as there as there is but. But I think the fans are also this generation of fans want something else too. In the age of podcasts, blogs where just so much expertise or pseudo expertise there's so much talk. People actually wanted to talk about X's and O's and. And that makes it tough. But I think Charles and then made this bed and I love Charles Barker. I think they made this bed and they're gonna have to lie in it now. I don't know if we'll ever see them on TV the way they were five years ago.

02:29:18

Probably not. Probably not. Life is a series of moments and moments pass.

02:29:21

That's what I always say.

02:29:22

Exactly. Did you guys familiarize yourself with the ESPN article the piece that they did on the Lakers LeBron and Jeie bus?

02:29:31

Oh yeah.

02:29:31

I didn't see the. I didn't read the whole piece. I saw excerpts from it and I think. I think it's true. And again I've come in hand. We've been talking off mic and telling you what have said to me and I ain't got the inside track. I ain't you know what I mean.

02:29:51

But you do be having inside track a little bit.

02:29:52

But the that but didn't it mirror what the been saying me months ago I said some of this stuff and and it comes out that this the same exact.

02:30:00

And LeBron has denied it by the way just for the record.

02:30:02

Of course.

02:30:03

So what were the spicy details that.

02:30:06

They tired of his ah him and him and Rich Paul are running around like they the mayor and some of these people not with that.

02:30:14

The Lakers ain't with that. Nobody's bigger than the pro.

02:30:16

We talking about old white money bro.

02:30:18

Je bus privately grumbled about LeBron's outsized ego and clutches overt control over the organization. Some of the same things that you heard out of Miami when that whole.

02:30:28

Thing.

02:30:30

And Cleveland actually right about that lack of accountability. Jeannie Buss felt that LeBron would shift blame onto others, especially after the Russell Westbrook trade that did not work out. She said she can seriously considered trading him a few years ago. She said she feels like. Like LeBron takes way too much credit for the organization being where they are. She said a lot of LeBron stuff. To which LeBron replied, I don't care about articles that are written, and all the LeBron stuff is juicy for headlines. I read the entire piece. The Real Juice, to me was about the internal fight between her and her siblings.

02:31:11

Okay, yes.

02:31:12

Yeah, I thought that was.

02:31:13

That's where. That's where the real team.

02:31:15

The rest of it sounds like regular, like workplace bitching kind of. You know what I'm saying? I know it's. It's super blown up because we're talking about LeBron and the Lakers, but it.

02:31:23

Sounds like, yeah, but it's every battle athlete has had with it.

02:31:27

But the article was. It was talking. It was talking about how Jeannie Buss may be recognized differently in the estate planning than the rest of the siblings, which enabled her to take a certain stance or behave in a way that was against the majority. Majority of the siblings, especially when it came to do with the team, the handling of it, the selling of it, so forth and so on. They painted her to be like a real.

02:31:56

Well, the rest of the siblings came way after. Right. Was it wasn't Gene Genie around, like, when the purchase happened. I'm just going off of Showtime. I'm not a. I don't know.

02:32:06

But what I did hear, I heard that for a while she stepped back from the organization because they was bimping, beefing. And I heard she stepped back and said, cool, I'm gonna let y' all do it your way for three or four years, and we gonna see what happens. And that's when the Lakers were that low and she came back in like, all right, let a real do this.

02:32:25

Now, she said that as a quote.

02:32:28

You get what I'm saying? She came back in and said, yo, let me do what we gonna do, and we gonna see who fares better when y' all was at the helm or when I'm at the helm. You understand what I'm saying? And then she fared better, and then she fared better.

02:32:41

But she was around since the 80s no.

02:32:44

Yes.

02:32:45

She's.

02:32:45

She's been the one.

02:32:48

My dad was my. You know what I'm saying? So she grew up in the organization. Again, to your point, I think this is old white money.

02:32:54

However.

02:32:55

Oh, I'm sorry, everybody. Not a fan of the sport. I think she's a fan of the sport.

02:32:58

Right.

02:32:59

Some people look at this like it's a business. So now when you start talking about the inner turmoil, I don't know this to be true. It could have came from the handling of LeBron.

02:33:08

Well, and I think they recognize her status with the organization. However, the other siblings say it's pretty clearly laid out in the estate plan. And if anybody ever knew their dad, that their dad wanted the Lakers to be a family business for the rest of life. Like any profit, any. Any. Any benefit fit. Y' all divvy this up. We don't. I don't want to sell this. I want y' all to work through this as a family. I gave my entire life for this, for y' all to do. Hey. So the siblings are like, everything that Genie Buss is doing is in stark contradiction with what dad would have wanted with this team. And they talk about. They talk about the handling of the Mitch cup check firing, the Magic Johnson handling off. They said, Jerry, Jerry. Jerry west has kind of been the glue behind the scenes, holding things together between Genie, the siblings, and just the handling of it. And all the siblings are not happy with the sale of the team and how they went about. So really, really, really interesting piece. The LeBron stuff was secondary to. To me.

02:34:17

Yeah, that sounds interesting to your thing. I'm just. And again, we now we just being objective.

02:34:22

Yeah.

02:34:22

If I'm the person in the office, everybody, every day I'm busting my ass. I'm racking my brains. I'm trying to hold this together. I'm trying to create winning teams. I'm handling all these personalities. And y' all may not have more day to day duties. Y' all over there chilling. Being billionaires, right?

02:34:39

Oh, she fired them and I'm getting older. She fired them from their positions.

02:34:44

Succession.

02:34:45

Yeah, yeah.

02:34:45

Like, I'm getting. I'm getting older, dog. That's true. Y' all not doing. You can't tell me. I gotta maintain. When y' all over there chilling. I gotta hold this together. And y' all just getting residuals from whatever it comes in. You can't. I want to live my life. I still look like a little. You know what I mean?

02:35:02

But.

02:35:03

And I'm with you, but, you know, you you might can't tell. You might can't tell me that. Yo, I gotta hold on to this forever. Even though that was dad's wishes, it's. It could be unfair. Y' all ain't helping me.

02:35:17

Where do you stand on that?

02:35:18

It'd be like that in some of these family. Family pass down.

02:35:22

But where do y' all stand if.

02:35:25

If Pops left control or like the. The final say whatever that to her, he saw something in her and believed in her. So obviously he didn't believe in y' all to do it a certain way. Not because you could easily say, dad would have wanted this, dad would have wanted that. You don't know their conversation. You don't know what pop said to her. She sees something else, she knows something else. So I stand if he left it to her. Yeah, that was for a reason.

02:35:47

I also think that family business is like dad said, we wanted this to be a family business. If she's running the business, it's still the family's business. You know what I'm saying? Like, I could see how.

02:35:57

Or. Or you might be in an advantageous spot to say, yo, we ain't gonna sell the business. You not doing. You just collecting off of the business. You just collecting. You not doing no heavy lifting. You're not helping me negotiate contracts. I got to deal with these when they come in my office, not you.

02:36:13

Did I tell you I don't leave nothing to them dumbass kids?

02:36:16

I just told you.

02:36:16

Well, all you got to know which kids to leave. Which is what pops could have did. He could have looked at his kids and said, yo, I know this one right here. She been here. She know how to run this. She going to do, get it done the right way. And I think. I think that the state of business, economy, etc. Etc. A lot of that your family business is a thing of the past. I think that is a thing of the past. A lot of times now people are starting businesses, they build market share, they sell, they go start another one, they build it up, they sell. And that's how are scaling out here.

02:36:49

I think it's also a little bit different when the business has made billions and billions of dollars. Like, we're no longer a mom and pop shop. Like, this is an international billing, multi billion dollar business.

02:36:59

Daddy took.

02:36:59

We could cash this out. Like, yeah, you're right.

02:37:02

And she take that money and go.

02:37:03

Do something else with it.

02:37:04

I'm never selling. Well, when I say never, no time soon it won't be in mine or my siblings lifetime That I am selling. If I know my dad's story was there to witness it firsthand. How he took his very last and then borrowed team and kind of build the modern day live NBA game that you see Caesar say, I'm never doing that. One, two. There's always, sometimes is that. And I'm not saying that what y' all are saying is off. But also sometimes the sibling is presenting themselves like they're going to hold it down for everybody. And as soon as dad or mom hit the casket, now their own agenda is coming.

02:37:45

That's possible.

02:37:46

And if I'm looking at what Boston sold for recently, what Golden State sold for recently, and I'm the Los Angeles Lakers. And granted they got some record breaking.

02:37:55

They got the highest number.

02:37:56

Yeah, they got a record breaking number for it. But I'm gonna hold on for a little bit and, and have faith in the direction that the NBA is going in.

02:38:04

What if she, what if she ownership, huh? She still has a percentage, I think, right?

02:38:10

I don't know.

02:38:11

I think so. But think about that. Let's say hypothetically.

02:38:13

Yeah. Just not majority. Maybe you.

02:38:15

Yeah. You leave the Joe Button network to Trey. Right. Trey might not want to do this no more. No more. Trey might want to go be a family man. Like, yo, I'm sitting on 100, 200, $300 million. I don't want to have the day to day tasks of coming in and doing this no more. I can't go on vacations. I can't really live my life. You get what I'm saying? Like, I think it's unfair to, to, to put that charge on somebody now, if they willing to do it, cool. But if they not willing to do it no more because they want to go enjoy their life and not deal with the mental anguish that comes along with it.

02:38:49

Well, the audience should also know you're a big genie bus guy, bro.

02:38:52

It's not about genie bus.

02:38:53

Yeah, but you are a big genie bus guy.

02:38:55

No, I think genie bus, but I'm not, It's not about her. I mentioned Trey. You get what I'm saying? Like, I think that that's unfair. I think it's, it's a goal that we would want our family to do the Kennedy thing and generations. But everybody don't want that.

02:39:10

You know what's funny?

02:39:11

Each child had a equal vote in.

02:39:14

The trust and they still sold.

02:39:18

Yeah, I guess.

02:39:19

So Somebody probably felt pressure.

02:39:22

Oh, yeah. Read further on that. Because even though they may have added.

02:39:25

After her father died in 20, 2013, his 66 controlling interest ownership of the Lakers passed with six children via trust, with each child receiving an equal vote. Jerry's succession plan had Jeannie assume his previous title as Lakers governor as well as its team representative. At the board of governors meeting, she became president. President, leading the team's business operation, while her brother Jim continued as VP of basketball operations. She had ultimate operational authority and could overrule Jim's position. Okay, that's interesting.

02:39:51

There it is. So equal vote. But she was recognized differently in the estate. I know somebody recently who. Incredibly successful in business, and. And they recently just got, like, a really, really, really, really, really big check. So I've been home all week trying to figure out what it would feel like to just get that big of a check as a result of one of your businesses. Right.

02:40:21

Give us an example.

02:40:23

Check.

02:40:24

Balls. Ballpark.

02:40:26

Call it a billion. Call it. Call it a billion dollars.

02:40:29

Okay. Sheesh. Have they been in that range before for.

02:40:33

They've had money.

02:40:34

I mean, up there like this.

02:40:36

Probably never sold a business for a billion dollars.

02:40:38

Okay.

02:40:40

You know what I came to. This is gonna. Y' all up me. Retirement for that person is probably really similar to retirement as a fireman.

02:40:54

I would agree.

02:40:54

How you been?

02:40:55

Probably has a lot more parallels than one would think.

02:41:00

I would agree.

02:41:01

Like, you hear somebody got a billion dollars, you'd be like, oh, it's lit. It's time. Oh, bowling, yachts, planes and. But that person is probably sitting around like, you know, now. Now, now what? Oh, for sure.

02:41:14

I think I don't want to sit at home.

02:41:15

I think that level of retirement, that part of retirement is the same for everybody.

02:41:18

I never had all this money. Now I got all this money. There's nothing really to do when you have all this money. Money when you could do all of.

02:41:25

It or have done all of it. That's why I asked you, what was their financial situation prior to the big, big check? Now, if somebody gave one of us that type of check is different. But if you already been in the hundreds of millions for the last 20 years, and now you just get a billion dollars, even tens of millions, your life might not change as much. Your life might not change. But you're saying, now what else to do? If. If I've been building up a business to sell it, and I might have made some money, made some money here, but now I hit one for a billion. To some people, that could be his motivation to go do it again. Or now I want to go see if I can flip one for 2 billion or 5 billion. You just keep.

02:42:00

You keep.

02:42:01

You keep growing. Them work hard, bro. Like, them might not work physically hard, but a lot of them in that upper air, they work hard. Go back to what you were saying. You're like, if I could just get this much, this amount a month, then once you got that amount of money, it was, oh, yo, let me go here, here. It could be the same thing with doing the business. Or if you got that amount of money right now, you'd be like, man, I'm poor. Chris Rock said, yo, if. If Bill Gates had Oprah and Shaq money, he'd jump off a roof and slit his throat on the way down. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, dog, it's levels to this.

02:42:36

I've never put myself in the mindset to think of what that person would be thinking. Like, in. I don't want to call it retirement, but. Because that might not be retirement.

02:42:48

That might not be retirement.

02:42:49

Yeah, it might not be. Yeah. Like, if I made that much money, there's no way I could sit home.

02:42:53

You can't stop.

02:42:54

I would kill myself.

02:42:55

Yeah, you can't. How can you stop that person in.

02:42:59

More danger than the retired fighter? Fighter, yes. For sure. Like, it's scary almost.

02:43:04

So you assuming that that person got that big check, and now I'm done, and now it's what next? Good point. That person that big, that could be another day at the office. Now I just hit a benchmark, and. And now that. That could. Motive. Like, now I'm, oh, let's go. What are we doing next?

02:43:19

Let's go.

02:43:19

Get this one over here.

02:43:20

I don't want to say any more.

02:43:21

About them, but I'm just saying they might have several companies.

02:43:24

Hell yeah. True.

02:43:25

I just ran one up to a B. Yo, let's go run the next one up. That's what we doing. Let's get it.

02:43:30

Yeah.

02:43:30

There was a point with you because we could take it over off of them. There was a point with you where you was like, yo, I want to get to 50,000amonth, right? If you was making $50,000 a month.

02:43:42

Right now, you'll be very grateful.

02:43:45

Be sitting in the corner and appreciative. You'll be sitting. God, you'll be sitting in the corner.

02:43:49

Kind to me and blessed me. I know. In. In this way. That's true. I'm popped. It's up out here.

02:43:57

Just give me me to 50 you a month.

02:43:59

Well, we've been trying to. You won't. You won't return the text. Just trying to you text us whenever you're ready.

02:44:07

What else did y'.

02:44:08

All.

02:44:08

Did y' all listen to the. The Camron Letter to Dame Dash song? I did.

02:44:13

I did not. I heard half of it.

02:44:15

I ain't listen to it.

02:44:15

What y' all think?

02:44:16

I don't pass on too many K freestyles. Cam still hard.

02:44:20

Yeah. That is too personal for me to want to get into it.

02:44:23

I think that's why I like the.

02:44:24

The song.

02:44:24

Because it was. It was one of the few times where, like, he wasn't. It was It. Right. It didn't feel like a disregard.

02:44:28

Cam loves that.

02:44:29

Yeah. And you can tell it in the song.

02:44:31

Yeah.

02:44:31

And I love listening to Cam rap, but also it was honest and there were some jabs in there, but they weren't. They didn't feel like they were mean and they didn't feel like they were for the purpose of embarrassing them. It felt like, look, I'm really telling you how I feel. I want you to really think about this and reflect on this. It almost felt like an intervention.

02:44:45

It was from the heart.

02:44:45

Yeah. He loves it.

02:44:46

It was from the heart. That's. That's the first. That's all I took from it. Like, yo, this was like having a heart to heart with a person I can't really sit and talk to.

02:44:52

Dame is another one that unless something big happened in 2026, I'm just going to try my best to not like. It's never nothing. Yeah, sorry. Just me.

02:45:03

I get it.

02:45:04

Just me. I love.

02:45:06

It's worth listening to.

02:45:07

I believe it.

02:45:08

Yeah.

02:45:09

That's like that old storytelling, Cam.

02:45:11

Yes.

02:45:11

Like, he was really talking. Like, he walked you back from here and we did this and we did that. That like, it was almost like, dog, how you coming at me like that? Like, this is what we've been through.

02:45:20

Right?

02:45:21

This is who we are.

02:45:22

Like, again, it wasn't a diss.

02:45:24

And he was honest. Like, you helped me here. You. You saved me here. You got me off this record labels. So it wasn't. It. It was great. I thought it was great.

02:45:32

Before we leave sports, did you guys. Did you guys have a chance to look at the Buffalo Bills owner and the press conference that he gave Terry Gula?

02:45:41

That was natural.

02:45:42

Terry Bugula and what he said, what he had to say about Keon Coleman, that was nasty.

02:45:45

What do you say?

02:45:45

No, he essentially, he kind of blamed the failure of the team on the coach picking Keon Coleman. To. To a degree.

02:45:57

He was riding for the gm. He was riding for the gm. They asked the GM of the team about the Keon Coleman pick. The owner chimed in and said, hey, can I answer that? RGM has been taking a of lot, lot of heat. I just wanted to be known he wasn't with the Keon Coleman pick. If it were up to him, it would have been somebody else. I, I have that for fact. Yeah. The player, he was just, it was, it was, it was, it was really poorly done.

02:46:25

There's a lot of times where the owners should not speak. They're not, they're not trained. They're billionaires. So they have a skewed conception of reaction, reality and how to talk.

02:46:38

And a lot of times they talk like they talking to the other billionaires how to manage, how to do a bunch of things. Yeah, look full circle back to the Lakers like, yo dog, I might be the in the trenches every day and you not so you your opinion is weighed less than mine. And some of these owners got a detachment, bro. They, they billion this be one of their business.

02:47:01

Wide receiver.

02:47:03

Yeah, can I interrupt?

02:47:06

I'll address the Keon situation.

02:47:12

The coaching staff pushed to draft Keon.

02:47:17

I'm not saying Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice.

02:47:23

That was Brandon being a team player.

02:47:26

Player and taken advice of his coaching.

02:47:29

Staff who felt strongly about the player. And you know, he, he's taken for.

02:47:40

Some reason heat over it and not.

02:47:42

Saying a word about it. But I'm here to tell you the true story. See what, what really happens in a lot of these. It's like Game of Thrones level of getting ahead. The GM Brandon Bean was brought in, I'm sure, I'm pretty sure by Sean McDermott. They've had fairly poor drafts for a while. They've had some good drafts too, but they've missed on some picks. Wide receiver being an important one. And I think that the buck is just getting passed around so no one takes the blade and gets axed.

02:48:16

What people are pointing out after that interview, you specifically, was that the wide receivers drafted before Keon Coleman didn't absolutely go crazy last year. When you talk about Brian Thomas Jr. When you talk about Xavier Worthy, when you talk about Marvin Harrison, who else was in that.

02:48:38

He balled out a little bit last year.

02:48:39

He balled out a little bit till.

02:48:40

He got hurt lad McConkey who had a better year and I think he was even drafted, but he picked up at the end afterwards.

02:48:47

They had a different OC last year and they misused him, I think.

02:48:50

But anyway, I think that one keon.

02:48:55

Coleman is 22 years old and he's.

02:48:57

Still under contract for like three more years. This is a fucked up thing for the owner to come out and say.

02:49:00

And in football, bro, one person don't make the team at all. Like, one person don't make the team. It's not the only receiver on the team. Fucking homeboy was fumbling and throwing picks and all of that shit. Like you can't do that. Yo. Like, I think it's. I think it's important taste if, if that's what they were trying to do, make this young God be the scapegoat for them not winning.

02:49:20

No, I think that they were trying to just pass the book. We fired Sean McDermott because he made poor draft decisions. That wasn't the GM who has survived this firing cycle. And we still believe in him. But that was worded absolutely horrible.

02:49:33

Yeah, I ain't with that.

02:49:35

And we haven't. See, this is the problem. These organizations, Buffalo has been pretty clean for a long time. They were shitty for a long time, but under the Sean McDermott era, it was clean. They. They forward faced. Well, this is a bad step.

02:49:47

Y' all traded Steph.

02:49:49

Yeah.

02:49:50

Y' all had a number one receiver, if that was your issue. Y' all had a one.

02:49:53

Yeah.

02:49:55

Decisions are made on a yearly basis, bro, that affect your team for sure. That's it. You gotta live with them.

02:50:03

I want to hit the round of applause. Making a hard pivot. Hard pivot. Hard pivot. Okay, okay. I want to hit the round. Round of applause for a lady that has been extremely important in the eyes of America for the better part of 40 years. Keep that applause going. I want to hit the round of applause for someone who has been nothing but a beacon of excellence. Someone who has set the standard and been a clear example to those coming up behind her and young women looking up to her for the last 40 years. You guessed it.

02:50:40

Years.

02:50:41

Vanna White. Vanna White has married her long time partner. She was engaged for 14 years.

02:50:51

How many?

02:50:52

14 years.

02:50:53

You don't want to rush things.

02:50:54

Yeah.

02:50:54

You gotta take your time to get to know her. Yeah, yeah.

02:50:57

That's important.

02:50:58

Yeah.

02:50:58

You.

02:50:59

You don't want to rush into anything. So I want to shout Vanna White out for doing this thing the right way, not conforming to societal standards and their beliefs, doing what feels good in your heart, finding the one you love, taking your time, making sure that bond is built as securely as possible.

02:51:16

That's right.

02:51:16

And then stepping in the name of love. Man, a lot of people don't do it that way. So I want to hit the round of applause one more time for Vanna White and anyone else out there who is dying down for the 14 year engagement.

02:51:27

Shout out to her. She didn't put no pressure on him. She ain't rush him.

02:51:30

Yeah, she let him be him. Or.

02:51:32

Or shout out to him for not putting pressure on her.

02:51:34

Oh, no.

02:51:34

Yeah.

02:51:35

If you're in 13 of your engagement, please get out.

02:51:38

Hey, we didn't hear a bunch of subs. No, she didn't hit the insta story.

02:51:43

She was working hard too, so she probably wanted to wait till after she retired.

02:51:46

Let us be mad heavy.

02:51:48

Can y' all stop it?

02:51:49

No, for real. We found somebody that she could build a business empire other never had.

02:51:54

I want to know what this sucker does for a living but loves her.

02:51:58

I'll look it up.

02:51:59

Look up.

02:52:00

Don't play cuz he around Got a.

02:52:02

Feeling he working and backing them letters.

02:52:03

I think you got. You got him up around.

02:52:06

Be a Texas oil magnet.

02:52:09

I almost would assume he would be.

02:52:10

Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:52:11

Vanna White ain't just grow V for 20 something.

02:52:15

V is 60s.

02:52:16

They've been together for how many years? He's a real estate developer and construction executive. Executive.

02:52:21

Don't play with it. Don't play with it. Don't play with it. Now what you got to say? What you got to say now, huh?

02:52:30

I don't give a. 14 years is ridiculous to be engaged. Y' all not going to talk me into it.

02:52:36

That might have been her doing. What if he said, yo, I'm ready, I'm ready. And she like, yo, chill, David.

02:52:41

Not to mention y' all wouldn't be engaged for all them years.

02:52:46

Who I'm.

02:52:46

I'm opening.

02:52:52

Your wedding is gonna be in the back of that big pretty house that you're building. Yeah, exactly.

02:52:59

Well, the house will definitely be built in seven years. Seven.

02:53:04

14.

02:53:04

Yeah, the house will be built. It takes seven to 14 years. I mean, it's a beautiful house.

02:53:08

He's getting really good.

02:53:09

The permits, the permits.

02:53:10

A lot of cabinets in the kitchen.

02:53:12

I want virgin oak.

02:53:15

Don't forget about like. I mean like some people like the long engagement and they just rock with it.

02:53:19

Some people don't want to be married. But why are we engaged then?

02:53:21

I'm thinking about homeboy phone.

02:53:23

She can wear the.

02:53:23

What is her name? She's. She's from. She lives in la. Dude is on Black Ink crew. Ryan, I don't watch Black Ink.

02:53:30

Yeah, it's all you, bro.

02:53:32

She's an Actress who. Anyway, they've been engaged, they got kids. They've been engaged for like 10, 20 years. They're super happy. And everybody's always saying, when y' all gonna get married? Married? And she's like, I'm cool. I'm good with it.

02:53:44

Shouts to a real one. A real one. Don't. Don't rush into nothing with nobody. Make sure you know him 14 years.

02:53:51

You should pretty much know.

02:53:52

No, not. No, you gotta live. You gotta live with them for at least 20 to really know him.

02:53:56

That's true.

02:53:57

Let's see. All right, so Dana. Dana, Vanna White is married now. Let's see. Also, also, mom, Donnie cut all the whole hotel fees. And that's in New York. In New York business that people not in New York might not care about. Mamdani Court cut all of the fees attached to when you're booking a hotel. The destination, the resort fees, the surcharges, all of this. That is vague and misleading. He cut it not only for hotels in New York, but for New Yorkers booking a hotel outside. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. Let me hit the round.

02:54:37

Right there. So even if like you live in New York and you go into Atlanta, you don't got to pay to save the wells fee and all that other.

02:54:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:54:43

Do it on rent a car.

02:54:44

Cut all that out.

02:54:45

I rented a car yesterday. Them be having facilities fee, oil transmit fee. What are you talking that on? Concert tickets.

02:54:55

That's next.

02:54:55

That's. That's where it need to happen next.

02:54:57

Thinking back, just wanted to shout him out. He seems to be attempting to do the things that he said he was. Yeah, he was doing.

02:55:04

Shout out to him now. That's what's up.

02:55:05

Go him. What else is important? What else is important? Nathan's in Coney Island. Let me hit the round of applause. You know the infamous, the fancy business, the world famous Nathan's. Yeah, I'm into this type of. Sold for $450 million. I repeat. Yeah. Now it's not a joke no more. 400. And damn. Who the grocery store too.

02:55:30

They sell products.

02:55:34

$450 million. Nathan's, which opened as a 5 cent hot dog stand in Coney Island, Brooklyn more than a century ago, has been sold to packaged meat giant Smith, Smithfield Foods and in all cash, $450 million deal. The companies announced on Wednesday. Smithfield, which has held rights to produce and sell Nathan's products in the U. S and Canada and at Sam's Club in Mexico since 2014, will acquire all of Nathan's outstanding shares for $102 each.

02:56:05

Congrats.

02:56:08

Business got goddamn hot dogs.

02:56:10

I mean, a round of applause again, that's big. You started selling hot dogs for 5 cent, and 100 years later, you had 459 million for your bum ass.

02:56:19

Great grandkids, Grace, Papaya, you're next. I was about to say, see anybody waiting around? Like, Genie, I saw that 50 years ago. 400.

02:56:31

What else, what else, what else, what else, what else? In news, opposite of that. Sebastian Telfir says the $20 million that he made in his career was not a lot of money. When you really break it down. He went on the pivot show and.

02:56:46

Said, we hear this story a lot from professional athletes. And I get it, I get it.

02:56:51

I keep hearing it. And then when you hear all of.

02:56:53

Them, I can watch on the show.

02:56:55

I know you've seen at least 20.

02:56:57

I don't know the big picture, really, what you've seen, but you've seen 20.

02:57:00

Grown men, like, don't just say bad investments.

02:57:04

Like, how did you run through 20? I never saw 20.

02:57:08

And just thinking about, like, my thing, when I see dudes and I'm talking to them, I'm like, bro, if you.

02:57:12

Got 10, then you got 8, then you got 6, then you got 4, then you got 800,000. Like, you. You can see that money leaving. Like something.

02:57:26

Something is going wrong with this financial plan.

02:57:28

That's a good question.

02:57:29

And no excuse.

02:57:31

No excuse.

02:57:32

So I played 10 years. You said I made 20.

02:57:34

We all know about Uncle Sam, right? So what's that?

02:57:37

10? That's 10 already, right?

02:57:39

So that's about a million a year.

02:57:41

That ain't no money.

02:57:43

That's the real truth.

02:57:44

The real truth is I ain't really make no money.

02:57:46

I hate that he does that, but I know he feels I really. They called me the pocket watch on the show. Sorry.

02:57:50

I really ain't making no money. So people like, oh, I understand how.

02:57:54

You look so crazy from.

02:57:56

You know, I'm like, I ain't make Floyd Mayweather in the money. I didn't make the type of. Of money where it's like, I'm.

02:58:05

I'mma go crazy because I don't have it today.

02:58:08

That's the real truth.

02:58:09

If you do the Math, that's a $1 million a year.

02:58:14

Parks is right. I do feel like this conversation comes up every four to six months now.

02:58:21

It frustrates me on in a couple ways, you know, the conversation frustrates me in a couple ways. Me, I get the point that he's making. Right. If you don't make money or don't have access to that money or that world where everything costs more and you have expenses that people don't imagine, you got people you got to take care of. You got all this shit that goes. You got agents, you got all. I mean there's a lot of things you got to do. I get how people underestimate how fast that money can go away. It's easy to run through a million dollars a year. I get that. But I don't want us to believe or I don't want to communicate to people, people that that means that this was unavoidable. A million dollars a year after taxes is a lot of money. You could buy a house, you could make a conservative investment that would ensure that you're. That you have an annual income forever.

02:59:10

Yeah.

02:59:10

Like you could. That's less conservative than I would go.

02:59:13

But sure.

02:59:16

And, and so it's a mix of, yeah, it ain't that much money. Money, but it's a lot of money.

02:59:22

It's a lot of money.

02:59:23

It's a lot of money. And financial responsibility is the part that I want. The conversation I want to hear is about here's what I could have done differently so that when these young people watch, these young athletes watch it, they don't make the same mistakes. Because you're going to make mistakes, but we should make new mistakes. And I find that we're making the same mistakes when it comes to money.

02:59:39

And even outside of athletes, just anybody who's making money really at any level, but particularly of any. The higher, higher tax bracket level. Like I think you're. I think you're absolutely right. Like let's talk about how do you spend it properly.

02:59:52

Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

02:59:53

I do understand this because there's a lot of expenses that we don't think about like trainers and nutrition and travel and all types of that.

03:00:00

It's not a million dollars a year neither. Like you got agent fees, you got this, you got that, you got to pay NBA dues. Like all of that stuff. You got to pay that. It. He just was on some real round number. Yeah, it's less than a million dollars. If you average it out with their net take home pay is less. But Mark's point is right. Financial literacy should be the message that you're. But he just answered the question that they asked.

03:00:29

Right.

03:00:29

You get what I'm saying? Not just that you gotta.

03:00:32

Did he.

03:00:32

No, he didn't.

03:00:33

See, that's my point. Is that he.

03:00:34

Yes, he did.

03:00:35

To me. To me. His. If I. If. I don't know a lot about this, and I'm a fan watching this, what I hear him say is, I ran.

03:00:40

Through the money because it's not a lot of money.

03:00:42

It's not enough money not to run through.

03:00:44

He did answer the question. I, like Mark would have liked to hear him come to a different epiphany.

03:00:52

I think. I think. I think two things could be true.

03:00:55

I made a million. A million dollars isn't a lot of money. It's not really answering the question, but.

03:00:59

This is where I went wrong. Like, he goes on to say, I was taking care of 40 and 50 and 60 people. That stands.

03:01:06

Yeah, but we only play the clip. But keep going.

03:01:09

I mean, I can play the rest.

03:01:10

No, no, no, no. I'm just saying, like. And what. What needs to be brought into this picture is when you come from these communities, bro, you are so far behind to even get to a level of relaxation, you might have spent 3 or 4 million just to get to where you peacefully could see sleep at night.

03:01:35

What you mean?

03:01:36

Give me an example. I'll give you one. I don't know how many siblings he has. I don't. I don't got 13, 14 brothers and sisters. Cool. So you sign a deal, your first deal might be 4 million, $5 million. Right. You are now, by default, the foundation for your entire family, which us, as men, we welco welcome.

03:02:02

That for sure.

03:02:03

Like, if you could give your little sister's college tuition. You came in and talked about how your father said he's so happy that you was able to send your. Your kid, I mean, your sisters, to the Montessori program. As a man, that feels good. As a man, you take on those responsibilities. I don't want us to just say, yo, we can make this money and cut everybody off in our family, because that's not the definition of manhood.

03:02:23

But you started with if you're able.

03:02:25

Yeah.

03:02:26

So you don't think if you're in his position that you're careful. Career is not gonna blossom because life has shown you different. So you think, yo, my next bag gonna be 40. My next bag gonna be this, everything.

03:02:40

Everything you saying is exactly what I would have loved to hear from him. Yeah, I would have loved to have heard him say, yo, at this point in my career, I thought I had.

03:02:49

All the tomorrows, the time in the world.

03:02:51

I didn't plan properly. I didn't do this properly. When I hear go through all this money to Him. Listen, what I think is this. I think, because I ain't gonna tell nobody what to think. It's a lot of money to some people. It's not a lot of money to some people. If you think it ain't no money, I don't think you should say it out loud.

03:03:05

That's the part.

03:03:06

Not today, not right now.

03:03:08

Not with what's going on based on his live experiences. Again, maybe, Maybe that was 800,000 a year for him, right? But again, let me finish. Yo, dog, you're not gonna have your mother living in Coney island projects. You're not. I don't give a fuck what nobody says.

03:03:21

I'm with you on that. But you don't gotta buy a $50,000 chain.

03:03:23

Have to go from one extreme today.

03:03:25

We're not going from one extreme to the next. He lives in Brooklyn. If you go buy your mother a moderate house in New York, you spending your yearly salary on that house, right?

03:03:33

But when I said one of the.

03:03:33

Streams for me it's a $50,000 chains.

03:03:37

It'S cars and we, and you Talking about a 21 year old black kid from the inner city. That is what all of everybody in here got chains and watches and like that. And we don't make a million dollars a year.

03:03:48

But that's, but that's the responsible. That's my point, right? Make. That's the conversation. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not being unfair to him. I'm saying at 40, I just want him to reflect on that out loud. That's all I'm saying. Like, because the problem is if you say, well, I ran through all the money because it wasn't that much money, then a person, every athlete looking up is going to say, well, if you're supposed to run through that, like that's like that's the natural outcome. And, and for me, and it ain't.

03:04:09

It'S not slap in the face when you say that's not a lot of money.

03:04:13

That's the other part.

03:04:14

To people that have never, never are, have never and maybe will never see a million dollars at least one, one time. That's a lot of money. I know people. My man from, he's, he's a, a street pharmacist. One, one some money around that figure and he's the same thing. Not a lot of money. And I, you know, we kind of understood each other over that a little bit. Because it's not really a lot of money.

03:04:40

There's levels to shit, bro.

03:04:41

However, it's a. It changes his life.

03:04:43

Me and Joe had an argument.

03:04:45

He did his money too, just to be clear. So it wasn't just 19, was just the NBA salary. So he actually ran through even more. But this.

03:04:53

And also I understand if his career was two or three years long, he had. He said 10 years. Yeah, like, I understand blowing those first couple checks those first couple years, but.

03:05:01

Yo, he has kids by year eight. You should, bro. But he had kids. He was married. It's a lot of expenses that come along with that. I agree that the financial literacy piece needs to be expressed to the young people that are coming up so they can learn from the mistakes that you made. I agree with that. But we also are talking about a 2120. He might have been 19 when he went to the league.

03:05:24

Probably. Yeah, that's. I'm not cascading him for losing the money.

03:05:28

About 10 years of it. And I feel like it's about where you come from. So if you grow up and everybody got more money, you know what I mean? Or you grew up in your friends, people had a lot of money. And if your friend's family had a lot of money, but if he's from the inner city like y' all say, I feel like at a certain point, if it's not that much money, then why aren't you figuring out how to flip it so it is more money? You know what I mean?

03:05:47

I feel like flipping money takes financial literacy that we are saying that none of us really have. Your family didn't give you an opportunity or your family didn't pass down nothing. You learning on the fly as a 20.

03:05:58

I think she was years, but not seven years.

03:06:00

I'm 29 is young crutch, though.

03:06:02

That's a crutch. When people from our neighborhoods run into the athlete, entertainer, money. One of the first things that I think you should do, and a lot of people do do, is they go get a business account. Now, if that business accountant robs you, then that's a whole different story. But most people, because you asking people, when you say we not financially literate, it might not be enough time in the rest of some of these people's lives to get. Get the information that they lacking. But you can go with that coin and hire somebody that is going to protect you and your money. You can. And when people talk about going broke, I never hear. I never hear, yo, my accountant told me not to. Yo, I was going to buy these chains. I was going to take care of my 30, 40 siblings. My accountant expressed against this vehemently. I never hear that part of it. And, and we talk about this 20 million million and, and 10 million, all these large numbers. But it's. I know at a much lower scale that could benefit from having an accountant. But don't be wanting to share that money.

03:07:06

Don't be wanting to go in their pocket and pay somebody else for something that they feel like is not a problem, it's not detrimental or something they can't handle themselves.

03:07:13

And it's a crock of.

03:07:14

Yes, it's a crock of get a account in your account.

03:07:17

It's also.

03:07:18

And once you pay, that account is relative to what the you made.

03:07:21

I was just about to say real quick, accountants don't be that expensive because that could be. It could be scary to someone.

03:07:27

That's one of the big. That's one of the things that's scary out there is you hear accountant, pardon me and be like, oh, I don't have that. Or I'm not going to do that.

03:07:37

I can't afford it.

03:07:38

It don't have to be that expensive. Again, it's relative to what you make.

03:07:42

If you make.

03:07:43

If you make 70 grand a year, if you make 50 grand a year. I'm just throwing numbers at a wall. How much do you think the accountant is going to charge you a year? A year to. To run your.

03:07:51

And you probably get that money back in what you save.

03:07:53

Yeah.

03:07:53

And not to mention a good account.

03:07:55

Who'S gonna make you some money, bro.

03:07:57

Accountants and financial advisors is different. That's one. And then number two, we, we hear enough stories about in the NBA and in professional sports that get raped and robbed by their accountants. The same. So there's already a stigma and a, A sour taste in people's mouths when it comes. It comes to that. But again, I, I don't know. We, we going in circles. But yo, as a young black man.

03:08:21

I don't think we are.

03:08:21

I think we introduced him. But as a young black man from the inner city, bro, we could tell everybody what they can't do. He played 10 years. He got out the league at 28:29. At 28, 29, I wasn't. And I had more financial information than most. I wasn't financially smart or sound or any of that in my 20s. I think that's an unfair, severe thing to say to this man that, yo, he should have known better.

03:08:45

But I don't think anybody's saying that. I think our conversation isn't about the shoulders for him back then. It's the shoulders. Now, in terms of how he's talking about it and now he's talking about it, I want the best for him, but I'm really just saying you have perspective now. You know what I mean? Let's give it. Yeah, exactly.

03:09:00

Because.

03:09:00

Because that's what his generation came in.

03:09:02

If his mood is. If his vibe is still. It wasn't. It wasn't a lot of money. You know, where his head at, you know, saying.

03:09:07

Still.

03:09:08

See, that's the part that get me. I wonder if at that age, he thought that wasn't a lot of money when he was getting it.

03:09:13

I don't think that's possible at that age.

03:09:15

It is.

03:09:15

A million dollars a year is a lot different.

03:09:17

But I'm saying, look, not when your cousin is Stephon Marbury. Not when you surrounded by certain.

03:09:23

We, look, if somebody came up to him today and dropped a million dollars in his lap, I think. I think he would think it's a lot of money.

03:09:28

A thousand percent. Yeah, a thousand percent. Because now he has experiences on perspective and education.

03:09:36

Right.

03:09:36

That he didn't have.

03:09:37

And I wonder what he would do with it.

03:09:38

And I feel like time, y'.

03:09:39

All.

03:09:39

It doesn't matter. It's 10 years of it up. That doesn't matter. Like, at no point.

03:09:45

That's what I was trying to say. Like, the first couple years. I get it.

03:09:47

Yeah, that makes sense to me.

03:09:49

But it's 10 years.

03:09:50

You're still not kept.

03:09:51

Because if we talk about 10 years midway, we ain't really got a savings. We don't have no investments.

03:09:56

All we.

03:09:56

We had a point in halfway. In 10 years, we still at a point that if these knees don't work, ain't no more money coming in. And we. Because we're not saving and we're not flipping nothing. Like, yes. I expect you to kind of wake the up. Financial literacy or not, I think expect you to, like, bounce with it.

03:10:09

Like, you know what happens a lot of times, sometimes you get in that. I'm sorry.

03:10:11

Go ahead.

03:10:12

No, you get into a hole and you can't get out of it. You've created debt. You create responsibilities for other people.

03:10:17

And now you're gonna tell your wife you gotta go from a G wagon.

03:10:19

To a Honda, Right?

03:10:20

That's a hard. It's a hard conversation.

03:10:23

It's hard one.

03:10:23

You're gonna take your kids out of private school.

03:10:25

Listen.

03:10:25

Send them to public school because you're downsizing your house. It's a lot.

03:10:28

To the other side of that is not telling the nothing and the sheriff come to get you out the house. Yeah, but so what the I'm gonna tell you? You getting a Honda Odyssey or the sheriff's about to get you out this king's house. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. Like, I. I get. I get everything you saying, and I understand, but I just feel like the way his attitude is, why he's talking now, combined with the fact that you. It was such a long up. Like, I just. I don't know. And I do think, like Joe said, it turns out turns into like a crutch a little bit or certain. Well, I didn't know. Are so honest about being over. And so many people are in control of what they got going on because they've been over. Because we share the information with each other. It's like, come on, bro.

03:11:08

That I don't know. After a certain while, like, it's like I tell my kid, yeah, hey, where's your code at? I don't know. Well, who job is it to know? Who the Is supposed to know? But you, like, once you get all the money, who job is it to know. Know what to. What to do with this stuff. But yours.

03:11:23

Yeah, we gotta. We gotta. That same expertise we develop on our cars, on our jewelry, on houses, music, all that that we can become experts on through Google and YouTube. And I mean, we become scientists about some shit about our weed. Like, we could figure that shit out at some point. Again, I'm not criticizing poor people for. For making bad financial decisions. The system is designed to make sure that you stay.

03:11:43

That's right.

03:11:43

I'm just saying we can do something about it collectively. That's our. That's our. Our job, right, as old heads. To let these young people. Where you left. Oh, I'm saying it's our job as old people. Old heads.

03:11:53

Excuse me.

03:11:53

To.

03:11:53

To.

03:11:53

To intervene. I'm saying now, as an old head, I want. I just want him to speak back. Everybody, present company excluded, to lean back into these young folk and say something to them.

03:12:02

I have a question because all of y'. All, none of y' all are the only child, right? As a. With no siblings. I mean, my father had a couple children. Fuck them. Who cares? As motherfucker that grew up in up alone.

03:12:13

Wait, dad. Cause he did his numbers.

03:12:15

No, them children. In regards to me talking about me growing up, I have siblings, but they're much younger than me. So like you said earlier, we're talking a little bit off camera. My little sister's more like my Daughter. Because we're so far apart. But I'm saying to y', all, at what point do that sibling? It's like, whoa. Because if you got 14 siblings, you supposed to buy all 14 house? Or is it your brother that you slept in the bunk be with? Cuz if we real far apart. And I had already moved out when you was growing up. I don't even know y' all like that.

03:12:45

Some of them might have all grew up in that house together, though.

03:12:48

That's why I'm asking. Y' all got siblings. Do y' all owe every sibling you have the same. Take care.

03:12:54

No. You might go buy one big house for your mother. You might. You might go one big. Buy one big house for your mother and your. And your family, but not.

03:13:03

Oh, responsible. Who are you responsible if y' all all from the dirt fields of Kentucky and y' all grew up? Because everybody's story just seems so up. And we the worst.

03:13:12

We had to walk five miles to.

03:13:13

The mailbox barefoot in the rain, 110.

03:13:16

Bedroom in a decent neighborhood. All y' all move in until we can afford better. Again, the athlete problem. And the problem just to close this up is again, everybody assumes that tomorrow is going to be better than yesterday, and it's not always true.

03:13:29

Don't close it out on some big. I like where Mona was going.

03:13:32

I'm sorry.

03:13:33

I want to ask y', all, because that was.

03:13:35

No, that was a great question.

03:13:35

When. When. When do y'.

03:13:37

All.

03:13:38

Because you got siblings. You got siblings. I don't remember if you have siblings. You got siblings? I do. I got siblings. When do y' all show up and be Captain America for your. For your siblings? Like, you know what I'm trying to say. Most people like my. My brothers know when she get real. If there's like an emergency, you could break the glass. Glass.

03:13:57

You different. You different. You are different.

03:14:00

Why y'.

03:14:00

All.

03:14:01

Cuz he rich.

03:14:01

No, Cuz he don't give a.

03:14:04

He changed.

03:14:04

Get it? How you get it? No, that's him.

03:14:06

He's always been that way.

03:14:07

A lot of people take care of their families, bro. A lot of people. And again, I want just to fall off of. This is what we are telling men to do today. We're telling men to be the providers and the protectors of their families. And when we do it, sometimes that.

03:14:20

Could be the downfall of.

03:14:22

I'm not disrespectful. Disagreeing most times. Yo, dog, you are thinking you doing what you should do for your family, bro. You saying family.

03:14:28

We. I'M I'm really curious about what y' all think about your siblings, your brother and sister, because I don't have any. I really. It's a real question.

03:14:34

I'm with you and I get what he's saying. It's just like once we all grown and.

03:14:40

I'm between.

03:14:41

I'm go back.

03:14:42

I'm gonna go back to point. Not obligated.

03:14:44

Everyone's got this massive sob story, and sometimes it's very, very true, but sometimes, like, your sister might have a good job and is doing pretty good. You don't have to have to support their lifestyle. Like, that's true.

03:14:54

Yeah, that part.

03:14:55

Everybody doesn't need the. Even some people that need you to be the Superman, you maybe shouldn't be Superman for.

03:15:03

I'm not disagreeing. And it's how often they need, like, you got to show up.

03:15:07

That's why that matters, bro.

03:15:08

My brother has a really, really, really, really, really good job. Both my brother got good jobs. My older brother got a really, really, really good job. I thank God every day for that too. I am so happy that he is doing.

03:15:21

Such a.

03:15:22

No, that's definitely.

03:15:24

Thank God that. I mean that hell gotta call my phone or my mom's phone. None of that. Like, my mom could chill knowing that both her kids are doing great and if something go wrong, I mean, then. Then we'll talk.

03:15:40

Of course.

03:15:40

Because I didn't tell you to make them improvements on your house.

03:15:42

See, it was the other side. Say, look, so.

03:15:45

So for real. He went and made some improvements, see, Trying to be grown.

03:15:49

And they got two cars. Two nice cars.

03:15:51

No, he went and tried to make some house improvements. Like he made some.

03:15:54

Did he call us that?

03:15:57

Wow.

03:15:58

Now on the other side.

03:15:59

Now they raised the taxes. I didn't. Who knows that?

03:16:02

Me. You find out who knows that if.

03:16:04

You make an improvement.

03:16:05

They doubled mine.

03:16:06

Nah, they killed my bro.

03:16:07

They doubled mine. You ain't hear me.

03:16:10

Double what room you made, though.

03:16:12

I put a second floor in my house.

03:16:15

Oh, yeah. Yo, when we gonna have that episode talking about the improvements that be trying to make on their house and what it actually does to your tax bill? Yeah, second floor. My brother told me. Out, outside, door, outside, deck.

03:16:33

They decked.

03:16:33

You.

03:16:36

Don'T pay them people. They money, man.

03:16:38

But no, Mark is a prime example and I don't know disrespect.

03:16:41

Mark made some improvements.

03:16:42

One of Mark's brother.

03:16:43

My tax is doubled, man, with that backyard.

03:16:45

One of Mark's brothers is a boy, and they tax as high as giraffe. Up there. Yeah, but Mark, one of Mark's brothers is a prominent attorney. One of Mark's brothers is not so prominent financially. So now if mark became a 20 million dollar man, which he on his way to.

03:17:02

Well, on his way.

03:17:03

He ain't that far. He close. You know what I mean?

03:17:04

He's on his way.

03:17:05

Continue the story.

03:17:06

Yo, you don't feel like you, you, I don't want to say obligated or. Oh, but you don't feel like it would be responsible to make sure your, your, your, your other brother.

03:17:16

I mean, that's what I've always done. That's what I've always done.

03:17:19

But you can't ask Mark that, cuz he's a sucker.

03:17:22

He's not a sucker.

03:17:23

Mark is still paying. The lady that gets his text from his old.

03:17:28

Lady puts money in Mark's pocket.

03:17:30

No, Mark is a sucker.

03:17:37

No, but in the middle, I'm somewhere in the middle as I get older about it. Because now I'm also like, I'm not gonna throw good money after bad. I have to draw a line when people are adults. You know what I mean? So for my brother, my. I have another brother too who's doing fine. My sister passed and she was doing fine. So he's kind of been the one we were worried about. I remember right before my dad died, one of the things he said to me was, I'm so glad he works with your dad. He was working at my bookstore because I was always worried about how things would turn out. So I feel a certain kind of obligation to make sure that he's okay. But he fumbled that a couple times. So now. And he's obviously incarcerated right now. So my goal is now to make sure his kid is okay. To make sure that there's something in place long term. That's my goal. I can't take care of him at 49 years old.

03:18:19

Gotcha.

03:18:19

I gotta make sure that kid costs.

03:18:22

Yeah, bro.

03:18:23

Yeah.

03:18:24

Yeah.

03:18:24

And I do feel a certain kind of duty to that. But in general, because that's an extreme case. I do feel like when you hit a certain age, it's like more like break the glass in case of emergency.

03:18:33

True.

03:18:34

Like If I got 20 million and you got a regular job. And I don't mean, I don't, I mean just a good middle class, middle class job. I don't feel like I have to buy you a house or a car at all. Like that.

03:18:43

At all. Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. Like 200.

03:18:46

At 200 I would do it, but I still don't feel like I have to. Yeah, I would feel compelled. I would feel like I had to, but I wouldn't write that as a rule.

03:18:54

True.

03:18:54

That's all I'm saying. Like, I don't think it's the same as if your kid. If your people's in a homeless shelter.

03:18:58

Yo, dog, every. Or if they. No, I'm so. I don't care if you're playing music. I'll be trying to get this in. I'm gonna say it anyway. You can turn down a little bit, please.

03:19:04

I was trying to say that kitty got claws.

03:19:09

I don't care. Kitty got claws. I hate y' all spicy ass.

03:19:13

Kitty got claws is crazy.

03:19:16

That was nuts.

03:19:16

That was nuts. I'm gonna shoot back at him on Patreon. I'm gonna get him. But no. Or you put them in position to try to help him out.

03:19:22

Like.

03:19:22

Like my younger brother.

03:19:24

He.

03:19:24

He no kids, wasn't in college, didn't know what the he was doing. I put him in trade school, graduates. Now he owns his own business. And now he don't have to call on you as much, you know, now.

03:19:36

We own some of that business.

03:19:38

Executive producing.

03:19:39

Right. That's not what he said.

03:19:41

Hey, Ice, that's if your people came call back.

03:19:44

But I'm saying, you give them that shot. That's what. That's why I told my brother.

03:19:48

Couldn't put his brother in tracer of my bookstore.

03:19:51

Right. Your brother going to steal all the tools from. But then after. After a certain amount of times, it's like, yo, all right, now I got to. What can I do?

03:19:59

What can you do?

03:19:59

You look out for the kids. Like you said.

03:20:01

That's all you can do, man.

03:20:02

You can't keep taking care of grown folks, though.

03:20:04

And I feel like with. In that.

03:20:06

In that case, sibling or not, when.

03:20:07

You do have it like that, that's something a can't turn down. Because when your brother come, it's like, yo, but I did do this for your son. It's like he can't say none of that.

03:20:14

Yeah.

03:20:15

Because that's something that he lacks on. Thank God you're doing that for me. Now. I ain't asking for 20. I know you got hold my son down. I respect that. And I feel like they respect it, but I'm getting a lawyer to write up stuff so he can hand deliver to my family members and my friends that we're done, like, once the money cut. Cutting them. Yes. I want a lawyer to walk to the door and say, hey, here's like, it depends. Like my father. 3,500. Yeah, I might offer her 15,000, but the offer is you sign a check for a permanent NDA. We don't know each other, and we're not related.

03:20:46

How much money you got?

03:20:48

Well, like, once I get here, my mother.

03:20:50

15B.

03:20:51

I was just giving you an example that, like, it's levels of how much of a loser you are. So some people, I might come. The lawyer might show up with 8, 850, you know what I mean? Some people, the lawyer gonna call you because we gonna cash app you. Other people, we gotta knock at the door with a check. You know what I mean? My grandma gonna get a different knot.

03:21:07

All right.

03:21:07

No, just joking.

03:21:09

Joking. I would never get my grandmother murdered.

03:21:11

He's gonna wait her out.

03:21:15

My grandmother would do an interview with my grandmother dirty. I'm telling y', all, my grandma do an interview about you tomorrow. N.

03:21:24

I feel like we did it, y'.

03:21:25

All. Oh, I can be.

03:21:35

Show that man.

03:21:36

Oh, yo, you might could sing if you put your heart into it.

03:21:38

I can sing.

03:21:39

I hear them. Raspy.

03:21:43

This think he the only one good on the mic. I like when we let him rock.

03:21:48

What I'm saying.

03:21:49

And then.

03:21:49

Okay, go ahead, tell your homegirl. Next Friday is the day. Yo, it's time.

03:21:52

Let's go, boy.

03:21:53

It's time. Next Friday.

03:21:54

I might fry y' all some chicken. I might fry y' all some chicken.

03:21:58

The chicken lies, girl.

03:22:00

So what?

03:22:00

She said might, though, right? That also means might.

03:22:03

Get with your. I. I just love the idea of making all that food. And this can only eat a string bean.

03:22:08

He ain't the only up here we like.

03:22:10

I like the fact that he can't eat any, so I have to do it by Ozippicus. That running through his. His, you know.

03:22:16

Yo, this one.

03:22:20

I think we did it. We did it.

03:22:21

We definitely did it.

03:22:22

Real good day. Real good day. Real good day. Good energy, good vibes, good people, good folks. Let's go, Mona. Super fat ass.

03:22:37

Hey, yo, if you had a fat ass, you might be a problem.

03:22:39

You see, I should be looking back anyway.

03:22:41

Wait for the code.

03:22:44

You on the phone with it without the super fat ass.

03:22:48

I got it. I don't like this fat lip thing.

03:22:53

All right, so we're not saying anymore that Reddit. Oh, okay. Listen, man, hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until the next time. Time we bid you a do farewell Audio Cerebra dirt. What the is that?

03:23:11

Hey.

03:23:19

So longer buying all that.

03:23:31

You just to kill.

03:23:35

Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have until the next time. Last, but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel. And the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol. You might hear this on my new gym playlist. Hey, oh, wait till tomorrow. We in the gym. Wait till you see my playlist. What the is that? Yo, it's the weekend. I know. It's a snowstorm. What's everybody doing this weekend? Mona, where are your shows at? I know you got something tonight. Tonight? As in Saturday night?

03:24:11

No, we at the Stress Factory, King of pressure. The 23rd.

03:24:19

All right. Markish Ice Parks. Will y' all want weekend look like studio?

03:24:24

This is 20 bags of salt tomorrow. Yeah, I call a couple of the.

03:24:29

Homies like, yo, still trying to get free soul.

03:24:32

You going go sh.

03:24:32

Pay for the salt?

03:24:33

No, the hustler and me want to go get a box truck and go buy all the Home Depots out.

03:24:39

I'm off. I pop out. I got ACG boots. What's up?

03:24:43

Yo, the hustler be want to go buy 15, 20 worth of salt.

03:24:47

Let's. Let's get it.

03:24:48

Freeze. What you on this weekend? What you on this weekend?

03:24:50

35.

03:24:50

My girl.

03:24:52

Hey, hey, baby.

03:24:54

New baby coming.

03:24:56

Not from here. Snipies.

03:24:59

Parks is working parks in the studio.

03:25:01

I'm locking it.

03:25:02

I know what these guys are doing. And that's it, man. Y' all hold it down till next time. Keep us in your prayers or don't beat it. We don't care.

03:25:09

Hit that little from the back. Pest control, bro. Who called my rats?

03:25:17

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

03:25:19

No, no, no.

03:25:23

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

03:25:26

Joe Bide.

03:25:31

Jbp.

03:25:32

Jbp. Where would you be without the jbp?

03:25:37

You've.

Episode description

The latest episode from the JBP opens with the snow storm that is slated to hit the east coast (17:51) before the cast predicts the winner of the Hit-Boy & Mike Will Made-It producer Verzuz (27:17). 21 Savage and Fivio Foreign exchange words (44:58), takeaways from the Oscars in which 'Sinners' earns a record 16 nominations (1:19:24), and Joe shares his review of the new Chris Pratt movie 'Mercy' (1:30:11). Drake appeals the dismissal of the "Not Like Us" lawsuit (1:33:34), Clipse, Leon Thomas, & Olivia Dean headline the list of performers for the 2026 Grammys (1:44:33), Valentine's Day plans (1:50:20), and the crew shows support to Vince Staples (1:58:27). Also, Jayson Tatum is an EP on Ella Mai's upcoming album (2:02:30), Charles Barkley's comments to ESPN lead to the Buss Family & the LA Lakers (2:24:12), Sebastian Telfair's appearance on 'The Pivot Podcast' (3:13:48), and much more!  Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden