Transcript of Episode 942 | "Universally Cool"

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We are trained professionals who do not have your best interest at heart, or our own. Enjoy the show. Yeah, we're gonna enjoy today, but don't look me up and down. Your man, Park. What I do?

That is my man. Yeah, that is my man. Make sure he remain your man, nigga. He always gonna remain. That's it, that's it.

Hey, mute up, Park. Yeah, what you mean? Yeah, you always gonna remain. I don't mean that. Tell them.

Oh, you think you're not gonna remain my man? Yeah.

The fuck is poppin'? We in the building. Day 19 of the Knicks championship summer. We in this bitch. What's poppin' though?

What up y'all? What up? Ish Ice. What up? What up?

Mark Parks. What's poppin'? Yo, Joe is the classic, why you ain't tell me later when you told him first, like a year earlier? I think you full of shit. Nigga, we all, we sat up here a year ago.

I said it already. And said lab diamonds. We done had 3 episodes about lab diamonds. They the shit. Don't spend your money on nothing else.

Blah, blah, blah. I never heard that. Because you don't listen to them. I'm not saying y'all didn't say it. Don't attack my fucking character.

I'm saying I just don't remember. Yeah, we've said that. I thought we was all on something. No shit, that's just me. Yeah, it was just— yeah, okay, so no way to— yes, yeah, it's happening now.

It's happening after this little thing. Yeah, nah, it's lit. I ain't— I'm late. I'm late to the lab. Change your life.

I'm late to the labs. I'm late to the lab. Works. I, I guess I am stupid ass me running around fucking, fucking with real, man, it's over with that shit. It is real, it's manufactured.

I'm talking about the real expensive shit. You talking about the shit that my man had his arm cut off? Yeah, that's what you talking about. Old school shit. The one, that's old school.

The one, the ones in the mountains get. Yeah, go in the mountain, go get that. Some they can make in the lab, some they are mining for that are made. We want the miners. And some they mine.

No, we don't, don't want the miners. Take that back, sound crazy. But yeah, I get what you're saying. Lab diamonds is— yeah, they good, they save you money. They got to get you a good— yeah, you got to get— but same as like having to get a good jeweler, you got to get a good lab lady.

I don't think they had that when I bought mine. It's— they had it, but it ain't as pop— nowhere near as popular as now. They weren't as popular, and they was frowned upon. Like, they was frowned upon. Okay, look at him like, that's a quick— he called it, boy.

It's a difference. It's a difference. No, it's not. I was just telling Parks outside, like, I'm stressed with like a million things that have nothing to do with my girl. And it's not real stress.

I don't want to— I'm super blessed. I'm super blessed. It ain't like a real stress. But all of the— like, I ain't having to be responsible. I'm a kid, yo.

Yo, responsibility is a hell of a thing. I'm a kid. Growing up sucks too. People be calling me, trying to rely on me. Oh, that's nice.

I don't want to do that. Come on, yo, don't call me. I should be— that's a lot. I shouldn't be in your I'm top 5 of reliable people. Now if I'm 6 or 7, I feel like I gotta show up.

All right, I show up when niggas ain't got nobody. When niggas ain't got nobody, I stand tall. Wow. But you don't think I got nobody? You won't be playing A because they ain't got nobody.

How would you know? Huh? How would you know? Being playing A is tough. Yeah, that's why you ain't got nobody.

You playing A, nigga. Hey yo, if you don't got nobody, nigga, you ain't number 6. I show up better if you don't. Have nobody. Some psychological shit from my childhood, cuz none of my friends had their parents.

So it was, it was my hood, my house that was— and that kind of just carried on. Yeah, I can relate. Even y'all with parents, I don't meet y'all parents.

It's better to me if I think that— I mean, y'all are like— nigga got parents, boy. I know, but don't let me meet them. You've met my mom's, Joe. I met Bark's Yeah, both of them. I bet your mom, your mom dissed me.

Tell the mom, dude. He ain't meet Mama Flip yet. I ain't meet, um, again, it's fine. It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. No, it's fine, man.

I'm so happy to see y'all. Happy to see you too, man. How's everybody's weekend? Good, man. Was it the weekend?

It was, it was. Yeah, mine was good. Mine was great. I ain't do shit. Yeah, what did I do?

I went out, I went out, I went out to eat with, uh, with, uh, Angie Martinez. Uh, okay, the legend. That was great. And oh my God, man, I'm such a sap today. Oh, it's so good.

Angie always pops up when people are relying on me. Okay, like, oh, she's so good to talk to when, uh, things are just heavy. That was great, that was great. Nice. Lady friends.

You need them for sure. Yeah, for sure. You need them for sure. But y'all, y'all, but we ain't— I know, you know, you're right, but you're good, good, good, good girlfriend. Oh boy, was I spilling the beans.

Oh, I was sitting there talking shit about everybody in my life. Oh, I needed to unload. Oh, she just listened. I love you, Ange. Oh my God, this guy.

You special, yo. I'm in a good mood. Come on, let's talk, let's talk, let's talk shit. What y'all want to talk shit about? You give me my chain.

Oh, what do you mean? The Potter of the Month has been announced. Nice. Who won? Joseph Anthony Button Jr.

Yes. Really? Yeah, it was Joe Button, Mark. Oh, congrats, man. Congrats.

It was Joe Button. Damn salty. Congrats from Freeze. I know it. I ain't like— you got to work on your happy congrats.

You were thick in the running, actually. Mark, cool. Congrats, bro. He was in the running too. He fucking cut class talking about some Zoom court.

Oh, they didn't believe it either. I don't care. Yo, y'all do y'all thing. He was a nigga— I would rather y'all be mad and not believe it than I get a warrant for not showing up for court. Mm-hmm.

You know, nigga, on Instagram, on Zoom court, and the judge Leave Freeze alone, nigga. So you saying the one day cost him the whole month? Well, no, remember the day before he got sick from the rain. Leave Freeze alone. Oh yeah, then he was sick.

So the 2 days cost him. That rain is motherfucking— Shouts to the rain. Rain this weekend. I'm not fucking with you at all. Borgs, why you got on your fucking saucy shirt?

Because it's fucking 90 degrees outside, goddamn it. It's supposed to be 100 this Friday. I can't wait. It ain't supposed to be. 104 tomorrow.

That's why I put on my summer jeans. These are my summer jeans. Summer grades. He said my summer jeans. Mark, do you wear shorts?

Mike, what did your "it's hot outside" attire on your— That shit right there, nigga! Nigga, it's hot outside, I'm wearing this! You just suffer? I don't suffer. So being in a cult we weren't allowed to wear pants.

Mark you said it first. See that freak shit you talking about, nigga? He had a flashback. Are you good? Yo, you good?

It's subconscious. Nothing y'all told me wrong. Nothing y'all told you man. I mean we assumed that. We weren't allowed to wear shorts.

Black keeps you cooler. I guess. I think that was just some weirdo shit he was wearing. We didn't wear jeans either. I told you we wore like them— Skirts.

We wore rayon pants. We wore rayon pants and the Chinese collars and stuff. So I'm used to wearing black all summer anyway. And then— You should try shorts. It's going to change your life.

It's the other thing. New inventions. Along with lotion and some other things. He wear dress socks with his shorts because he don't know what to do with his legs. Wax your legs first.

It's not just— well, it's not— oh, shit. That's how it starts. That's the gateway wax. The next thing you know, your whole shit gone. I'm good.

My legs is too small, man, so I can't. I got socks on now. I told you. That's my man. George Costanza.

Your legs too small? My calves is too small. My legs too small. So, nigga, you ain't white. What that mean?

Black niggas don't care about calves. That's the problem. We be looking like action figures all big up top and small. I don't have big calves, nigga. White people always be getting calf implants.

Huh? I never had them. I looked into them. I actually know someone that got calf implants. Wait, wait.

You looked into calf implants? Yeah. You shouldn't be— you shouldn't say nothing. I can. Yo, you don't have hair below the Mason-Dixon line.

You shouldn't say that. That's just hair. I still got my actual fucking— so do I. I must have decided I didn't want to because I couldn't. I couldn't do it. One, I can't believe that y'all thought about these calf implants.

Why do you know that white boys do that? You niggas become more of bitch-ass niggas. That's number one. Number two, freeze legs. Dude look like Arce was body slamming that nigga all over that house.

Leave Freeze alone, nigga. No, he look like he was slamming ice against glass. He just ran through the bushes, nigga. He look like he had a glass living room table. Nah, look at Freeze.

He was running through the bushes, climbing the gates. He look fine. He look like a chicken pop. Yo. Nah, leave him alone.

As an adult, look like something. Those are just shaving scars. Nah, he got legs like my old cutter bitch. That's you. My old bitch that ain't want to live.

We had to watch after her. That's fucked up. We had to look after her. That's just from years. You had one of them too, right?

Bitches were fire. They was fire. Me too. That's just from years of bick— that's from years of bick and roll. Yo, what is wrong with you, yo?

Oh shit. Oh shit. I'm sorry, I'm talking about I'm talking shit about Freeze. My barber come every morning, every Tuesday morning now. He do your legs though?

And sometimes he's tired from traveling a lot, and he was tired this morning, and I know what that means. And he'd be like, nah, you good. Boy, that nigga commenced to cutting my old fucking head. Yo, my shit is stinging over here. I ain't got a hat on.

Yo, I'm fucked up. Ain't nothing you can do. Nothing you can do. Oh shit, I'm sorry. Oh my bad.

You gonna put that shit on there, then go spray. Oh wait, first they do a little— they put the caulk on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They put the barber caulk on it. Yeah.

Then they get to spray it, man. Fuck my barber. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, man, this is the worst. Here for a good time.

Here for a good time. Hilarious. Here for absolute— wait, you didn't get the train? Yo. Huh?

You tried to hold on to that shit. No, you took it 2 episodes ago. I should get an extra couple days with this shit. The other day. Yes, we do shoot 2 shows a week.

It was 2 episodes. Exactly. It was 2 episodes. Y'all niggas still honoring that after them niggas accused y'all of doing some bullshit to them? Y'all niggas still sucking up to them niggas?

Suck up to who? Yeah, y'all. Put it on him. Put it on him. No, I don't need it.

Wake it up. I'm good with them clips. I charge him $250 for some clips. I'm cool with this nigga. Put it on his neck.

They mad at them niggas. You made it sound crazy. They mad at these niggas. They mad at these niggas. Yo, they hate him.

They got blogs and all that stupid— the clipping feed. Look, it's up there. They mad. All right, we'll get into it. Can I get my chain, please?

Yeah, I know. Yeah, give him his chain. Can I get my chain? Yeah. Yeah.

Real simple, dog. Just give him my— come on. Take your time, bro. There you go. Don't just flop it on me.

Place it gently. You putting it on him? There you go. That's what we said we was going to do. Place it gently, man.

It's the reverse of how I used to get robbed. Niggas ain't never just yank my chain off me. I had to stay still. Yo, don't move. Yo, stop moving.

You lying. Yo, Mark, look what Mark did. Yo, come on. This shit on inside out. Yo, fix that nigga chain.

Nigga put the chain over the helmet. Yo, that's hilarious, my nigga. Yo, that's funny. I'm not good with that stuff, man.

Nigga said stay still. You stood still. Yo, can you say something to the people though? Damn, wait. Oh, nigga, yes.

He said fuck the fans. Back to you. Yeah, he building that tough shit, and they, and, and they got him. No, I never, I never seen that. I had a gun on me, they said stay still.

I obeyed. I don't know what happened the day that they pulled out on you. Nigga turned into a statue. Yeah, you tried, you thought you was fast. I just never seen that.

I just seen niggas go Oh, hell no, nigga. They got me. They don't want damage to merchandise. Oh, please. They knew he wasn't resisting.

They just did. Oh, you know. Okay. They know what to do. They took my shit off me at 2 PM in Jersey City at a light.

At a light. You know how it feel to get robbed and have to power window your window open? What that mean? What that mean? Damn.

I was feeling good. Had web jewelry on. You got it back? Yeah. Yeah, we got the chain back.

How much you pay? He went to store, got another one. Yeah, you know, they got it back. They got it back. I remember that.

They got it back. You know, they got it, they, they got it back. Shout out to the, shout out to the guys, man. They came over, got it back. And that web chain that they took off me on 145th Street, no, they melted that bad boy down.

Somebody had to fill that one. Yeah. Um, all right, here for a good time, not a long time. Let's have some fun, let's have some fun. Yo, I gotta tell you how funny Freeze was before you got here.

That's my man. Hold up, let me tell you. Hey, oh man. Yeah, I mean, is outside.

Yeah, I mean, is at the car wash and all that. Is out with they ladies. Is at the restaurants eating out outdoor eating too, you know what I mean? Let me get that table outside, you heard? Hey, too hot for that.

Rest in peace Tony Thompson. Fourth of July weekend coming up, let's go!

Shout out to all the ladies out there, all the ladies out there, all the parents out there, the college kids out there. Hey!

All right, I'll give you $1,000 if you can guess what song I'm playing next.

Um, that's the people that jacked the beat. Who jacked the beat?

Now, now, free— not freeze off. Flip sees it queued up, so there's no cheating, right? It's queued up.

Cuz Freeze said that my mix was predictable, so I just want to know what song you think is coming next. I don't, I don't got it, but all right, I know it. Well, I changed it from when it first started in the beginning.

Yo, shout out to High Five, all the R&B lovers out there, anybody having an R&B party. Hey, Webstar, what up, boy? We got to get up soon. Come on, baby.

Oh, I wouldn't have picked that. No, this wasn't— that's not what he had before. I changed it, I changed it. Freeze, try to call Verify predictable, boy. Don't ever play with— don't you ever play with me.

Come to make your mix better. You're welcome. Fuck you talking about, nigga? You're welcome, my nigga. I just helped you out.

Let's go, Freeze.

Shout out to all the DJs out there. Everybody at work, all the entrepreneurs, 9-to-5ers, all the musicians. Everybody on the West Coast, everybody in LA. Igloo. Rock on, mix wouldn't have been predictable.

Oh, shout out to Rock On, man. It's a good guy. Yeah, it is. It's a good guy, man. I ain't got no hate in my blood.

Shout out to Doughboy. Shout out to fucking Swab. Oh, what's my man? What's my man? What's my My man from Jersey, the guy with the dreads, with the dreads.

Oh, y'all horrible, man. My memory is bad now. From Hot 97. Hula. Wala, nigga.

The fuck? Holy shit. Yo, what is wrong with you, yo? Oh man, hula. What the fuck?

Bro is a man, yo.

Hey, yummy! That's, that's the song I was talking about. That's the song he had. That's, that song it was. That song it was.

Uh, motherfucker, supermarket closing down, man. I can't get my motherfucker French vanilla, my coffee. What supermarket? Acme.

The big one. Oh, so I was in the— Did you get your coffee from Acme? It's over, dog. I know this is Jersey business that don't nobody care about. Yo, shout to everybody in town for the World Cup.

Yo, couple you niggas keep coming to the motherfucking strip club, talk about, do you got a Ecuadorian trip? Nigga, no, we don't have a translator at the fucking— Nigga, what the fuck are you talking? Get away from the door, nigga. Move.

Yeah, yeah. Showtime, showtime. Look at the Spanish words. Yo, I'm telling y'all, pick up a bunch of girls too. We got to hop in a Sprinter and we got to go over there and find that little sex ring, y'all.

I'm telling you, they picked up a couple people, that little World Cup. I'm sure we know some of them girls. There's a World Cup sex ring going on. Pick up 8 of them. It ain't far, it ain't far from here.

Awesome. Oh my God, you know my day ish. I don't. You fell in love. I fell in love.

Ain't do the sex with her. You right.

I see. What was that? I'm from the Webber Nitty era. It's the network. All right, what episode is this?

942. Welcome to episode 942 of the Joe Budden Podcast. I am Joe Budden. You're happy to be here. Fucking super grateful, extremely— what's that?

I got that, man. Uh, happy to be here, yada yada yada, all the good stuff. Uh, this episode is brought to you by Fuel, by Power, by PrizePicks. PrizePicks gang, yeah! Uh, next to me, boom, Queens get the money, Queens Flip in the building.

Flip, how you doing, man? I'm feeling good, what's up, man? Good, I'm great, I'm great. Next to him, our good brother, Philly's finest, our good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Mark, how you feeling, man?

Great, great, great, great. Just not ventilated. I'm good, my calves ain't got no air circulation. Next to him, man, stop playing with him, stop Straight from motherfucking— what's that store that was on, uh, 40? The, uh, uh, pretty boy niggas went to the, uh, with the plastic where they got the plastic containers for this— The Container Store.

Oh yeah, you know, straight from The Container Store. Stop playing with him. Big Ish, Mr. Thousand Doors. How you doing, man?

I'm good, yourself? I'm great. I could not be better. Absolutely wonderful. Next to him, the Bo Jacksons.

Yeah, yo, Mark ain't see nothing we grew up with that was cool. Like he did— he just seeing these, he like, I gotta get me— I just said they classics. Oh, okay. They had them shits at Boston College, wherever the fuck he was at. That's where I grew up, Rhode Island.

Wait, you went to Temple, right? Uh, yeah. Got it. North Philly. I feel like I should remember that.

Yeah, my cousin, my cousin's Temple alumni. I should Alumnus. You said what? Alumnus. I don't fucking know.

You should have went with— you trying to clown me? I'm not. Whatever I said, I whispered it. Nobody heard it. Now you want me to say it again so you could tease me?

No, I didn't really hear you. I thought you said— you said you should have went to Temple. There's a lot of colleges I should have went to if my head was on straight when I was young, but I was a wild boy in the streets, nigga. Something you don't know about, boy. Robberies, stick-ups, something you don't know about, boy.

Knockouts, stealing cars, all that shit. Robbing pretty boy niggas with light eyes. Boy, you was over there fucking talking, looking for daddy while we was outside getting to the fucking— I had no daddies, nigga. My dad was a trapper, nigga. One father, nigga.

Jamaican man, nigga. Oh, nigga, that was 5'9" with light eyes, robbing them niggas. Oh boy, robbing them niggas. They didn't come around. You, nigga, victim.

That's you. Hey, Vicky, you got robbed before? I did once. Oh, okay. I got robbed before.

All right. Hell yeah, but I got my shit back. It's a difference, nigga. Well, everybody has got robbed at least once, right? I robbed one time.

Got my shit right back. I robbed and attempted robbery. Freeze. Mark, you never got robbed? Yeah, once.

Yeah, I was a young boy. That's just part of growing up. They jumped me and took my chain. Yeah, it's the cost of being outside, nigga. We raising— You know what that rob is?

Niggas took your sneakers and socks. Didn't they come to your door and take your shit? Take off your boxers too, nigga. As an adult, No, I was 12. What the fuck?

They came to your door and took your shit. I was 9 years old, my nigga. That's the same. That's the same. We all got robbed.

He didn't say no. Robbery, yo. You got robbed at 9? Nigga, stop lying, nigga. Nobody get robbed at 9.

How old were you when you got robbed? Yeah, he's just making shit up to make it sound cool. I got robbed at 9, nigga. No, nigga. Why do you think that?

You didn't get robbed at 9 years old. You went to school, nigga, with a book bag, nigga. Stop it. This dude be adding just some Old Bay on his face. Yo, niggas be mad that they life was so corny that another nigga gotta be embellishing.

You said, yo, it should be— no, nigga, I lived the life. You was eating Frosted Flakes at 9, nigga. No, the shit that you wanted to do, I was really doing. I did it already. No, you didn't.

I was in Brooklyn. I was doing the shit that they was doing. They don't know you. They don't know you, nigga. They don't know you, nigga.

You was out here boosting like a fucking dude getting told to go boost, nigga. That's what they told me, nigga. You was boosting for niggas, nigga. I am self-funded, nigga. Beat me up because I wanted to sell drugs.

Watch your fucking mouth when you talk to God. Now I'm gonna let you finish. When I was boosting, I was getting $1,500 a week from Macy's. I wasn't boosting for nobody. $1,500 a week from Macy's.

Give it to somebody. Who? Give it more than half, nigga. Give it 8, nigga. The fuck you talking about, nigga?

Give it to the truck, man. You wasn't selling on your own, nigga. Watch your mouth when you talk to me, nigga. Yo, you just want to yell. I do.

I'm smart. So I was taking it back to Macy's, getting a mail check refund for the item that's full price. I wasn't doing 50% like I was doing in the streets. If y'all keep it up, they gonna call me Vlad. No, never.

If y'all keep it up, they gonna call me names. No, no, I have a brain in my head. Vlad don't charge for clips. Fuck you talking about. Fuck is you talking about?

Watch your mouth, nigga. And, and— Yeah, keep going. Do your New Jersey research. I ain't never held a pack for nobody. I don't gotta worship no other niggas.

I can worship myself. Go to the fucking trunk, nigga. I ain't from nobody's era. I'm from Ish era. You don't have an era.

I do. You got shot and laid there, nigga, and cried. And you probably told the nigga that shot you, nigga. Fuck you talking about, nigga? You know the nigga happened that shot me, nigga?

He's gone. May God rest his soul. You ain't do it. Don't matter. That matters.

It don't matter. And if I did, would I say it on here? No, you wouldn't. You might though. Knowing you, you might try to get some props.

Fuck you talking about? Next is little man. You little man outside. You gonna stop playing with me, bro. Y'all went and got such and such car and I was driving it around.

That's little man shit. Go to the store and bring it back some Skittles, nigga. Call them niggas now. None of them niggas ever asked me to go to the store, nigga. I stole their cars, nigga.

I stole all the real niggas in the street. All the gangsters. You don't stole us. The nigga gave you a car to ride around.

Jumped me. You know why? Because I fought all the niggas. I ain't trying to be down with the nigga. I never tried to be down with the niggas.

I've never tried to be down with niggas. Go get me a Ring Ding and a milk. Keep the change. Can you ask the nigga to send me to the store? Yeah, I never, nigga.

From a little nigga, you know, you know what happened? You know how the police called me with my first gunshot? Who you talking to? Go get some Skittles. Your man only saved you, nigga.

He was a blessing to both us. Remember that. I had money when I got him. I had money. You better do your research on me, nigga.

I never heard you talk about— what you talking about, nigga? Straight out of Newark. Fuck you talking about? Fuck you talking about, boy? So have your money then.

Straight out of Newark. Fuck you talking about? You better watch your fucking tongue, nigga. Mr. Take It Further himself, none other than Freeze, is in the building. I don't think he can claim that title after this.

They took it further. Further. Hey, how you How you doing, man? I'm good, man. I'm great.

Jesus. All right. Elmira's finest part. I knew that was gonna happen though. Once I seen you flip outside with Adrian Broner, he's gonna come here and start fucking, you know what I mean, wilding on niggas, man.

No, hell no. Why you so guilty for? Yo, you know what I do think is funny? And then I'm saying this, I'm moving on, please. But it's a few of y'all, I'm not naming names, that I've heard heard make statements that lead me to believe that once you started working together, you made calls in the street to check and see.

Check niggas' backgrounds. Yes. No, no, for real. I'm not just talking about him. I've heard it a few times and I'm, I'm flabbergasted almost every time.

Checks. Right, clearly, clearly the job though. Oh man, would we have a bond if I ran background check? Don't be silly. Would I, would I be here?

That's why you got to start your own shit. I worked hard to erase all my shit. I made a change for the better. Holy fuck, that— I grew up. This nigga stupid.

Goddamn. Park is here. Yep, Po is here, Cory is here, Erickson is here, Savon is here, Tanner is here. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there. Most, the fucking most important, you guys are here.

Oh, hey yo, listen, the nigga, um, Alize called me with the Atlantic City mayor on the phone. Oh yeah, they tight. Come on, yo, I told you. Nice guy too. Shout out to, shout out to Alize.

They called me on 3 Anyway, I said you have to call Ian Schwartzman, or he said I'm gonna call Corey. Okay, because Angela Yee had texted me and said, hey, the Atlantic City mayor would like to get in touch with you and speak to you about some shit that y'all said up there. I wish that the group chat still had the list of everyone that you've caused beef You forgot that you said like we back in the old days, remember how long ago? Yeah, we kept adding names. That was funny.

That was funny. Oh, I was here. Um, then Duff, shout out to Duff. He DM'd me, yo, text me. The Atlantic City mayor, uh, y'all, y'all kind of— they just had WWE over there, nigga.

They just hosted that. So I did hit Angela Yee this morning and say, hey, can you send me the mayor's I have his number in case I do want to speak to him. Nice. I'm just not sure if I want to speak to him yet. Why?

Scared. No, I don't think it's scared. Because unlike when we— and mind you, I don't remember nothing that was said about Atlantic City. We should— But if somebody asked me tomorrow about Atlantic City, I know what I'ma— I would know what I would say. So I ain't fighting whatever they said I said.

Whatever they said, I said, I said. Who was it that barked on you from Gary again? There was a, there was a singer or something. Yeah, it was, uh, she hit me up. She's a, uh, it was so dope.

I can't remember. It was a few people. It was a legend. It was a legend. Yeah, I remember who it was.

Anyway, well, unlike when we talk— well, when I talk, because when I talk shit about other places, I just be up here running my mouth. I don't really feel like that about New Jersey. New Jersey, I've been here, nigga. So if I'm saying something, I'm saying it as a New Jersey resident and representative. But it can change, yo.

I think that it changed. Well, I'm open, I'm open to speak. They changed it completely. Listen, and they could tell that to you because you from New York. I don't know I be there more than everybody in this room.

Y'all been there recently. My dad is there every weekend. Let's say change it this week. You doubling down. My dad is there every weekend.

So is Ice. Ice is there. I'm always there. So that's why I'm saying I don't know if I really want to speak to him because it might be a real honest conversation. Like me and him might be able to get a lot done speaking behind the scenes.

Maybe there's something I could do to help. True. I don't really want to purposely shit on— Got it, got it. Jersey. And I do hear that he's a great guy.

A lot of people know him. He called the last— He clearly got a lot of phone numbers. A lot. I don't know. I was on the phone last night.

I should call him right now. I'll call him right now. Call that nigga right now. Call him. Call that nigga right now.

Call him right now, nigga. We might— Let's go for the mayor. I'm looking at Ish and Mark. What y'all doing? Ish, what's up?

I haven't texted him. I haven't done anything. I got your back. I'll stand with you. Let's go, Mark.

Ish, don't say nothing. It's funny to call a mayor live. Call him right now, nigga. They gonna think I said something. It's the mayor of Atlantic City.

Atlantic City. What do you think he's doing? Mark, don't do that. See, you can't do— you can't make them jokes. Oh, only Jersey.

Jersey could just make jokes about Jersey. I live in Philly. We close to Atlantic City. You don't live in Philly, number one. You live in Jersey, Mark.

You don't live in— oh, then I'm in. No, you're not. No, you not. You want a probationary period. Jersey saved his ass, nigga.

Your queen is from Jersey. That's true. Yeah, that's true. All right, he don't play with that. None of us do.

Yo, watch Joe in about 24 hours slip. In Atlanta? No, you're now— it's the first of the month. Wake up, wake up, wake up! I think it's happening already.

I'm in a great mood. The fuck out of here. He forced the move out the house, right? Oh shit, freedom, freedom, freedom over me. That nigga ain't never leaving this patio.

He gonna be out there midnight. Yeah, we doing some behind the scenes for the behind the scenes for the rewind. Rewind 17 times. I mean, or I can get a PO box like some of the experts. You can't live You can't live in it.

You know what I mean? You can't live in it. Or I can get a PO box that's right there by the little hotel. Damn. All right, that bum-ass hotel that we used to go to 20 years ago.

That's why niggas can't— yeah, I mean, I just get a side bump, you know what I mean? It's cool. Uh, shot you down. Yeah, nearby cities. Did I introduce everybody here?

Serious. No, he could be in the middle of something. Give him a call. How many— is it more ish? It's— it's— he really called mad people.

Mad people want to have a real professional behind the scenes conversation. You don't want to be on air. Well, it can start here and then talk behind the scenes. If he's at the tables, we'll wait for his hand to be over. I don't want him to think I'm talking no smoke.

What? Hit me.

He ain't going to answer that.

You have reached Marty Smallwood.

I should have left a message. You should have.

The funny shit, I bet he call back. I bet he call back. You don't know that's my number, so text him and say— I just— Andrew, should I text him for— come on, man, we got to do. He'll go back. We'll get back to that.

Uh, where do y'all want to start? The BET Awards? The BET— we got a choice? No. Oh shit.

Uh, all right, the BET Awards happened the other night. I want to congratulate all the nominees and the winners. I want to shout out, uh, I'm sure Jesse did this. He did. Yeah, it was beautiful.

Shout out to Jesse, uh, and Kanye Orlando. Oh, that was quick. I told you he wasn't doing that. He just need to finish that Man, call back. Hello?

Hey, what's up, man? How you doing? Is this the mayor? Yes, it's Mayor Marty Smalls. What's good, bro?

Oh man, how you doing, Mayor? It's Joe Budden. I'm, I'm live on the air. I just wanted to call— I just wanted to call you and let you know that I ain't— I'm not ducking no smoke, okay? I'm not— go ahead.

I just, I just want to come on, come on your podcast and tell Atlantic City story, that's all. All right, you know I've been to Atlantic City a bunch of times. I just want to tell you that before you come. Okay, listen, listen, I'm, I'm, listen, I'm Atlantic City born, I'm Atlantic City bred, and when I die I'm gonna be Atlantic City dead. So let's do it.

Okay, well, do you have an open door to come up here and talk? I think that'd be a real good conversation actually. Okay, all right, just, um, let me know, shoot me a text, and, and I'll come up to New York in a heartbeat. All right, I'll text you behind the scenes. But you, you called a lot of people to find me.

Listen, man, listen, I'm connected, bro. Hold up. Congratulations on your success. Thank you so much. I'm, I'm for the culture, it's a threat by the culture.

He called me, nigga. Yeah, no, he got— now you— he's connected. No, he's connected. It is. All right, so listen, let's talk behind the scenes.

I can't wait to make that happen, man. It's gonna be a good talk, Mayor. All right, cool. Thank you so much. All right, peace.

Yeah, that's not gonna be good. Yeah, you're gonna be honest. Yes, you're gonna gain an understanding. I could tell by the way he was talking, you're gonna get understanding. That sounds like a J Prince call, right?

That shit sound like J Prince on the phone. He found exactly how the mayor of Atlantic City would sound. And guess who Joe sounded like? Exactly.

Yeah, we'll talk behind the scenes. Go ahead, you're welcome anytime. His tone ain't changed when he found out he was on the— when he was on the phone. Yeah, that was a giveaway. He said, oh, okay.

He knew who it was when he called. So that was a giveaway. Somebody gave me a number. Somebody gave me his address. Somebody gave me a number.

That nigga answered from down— no, no, no, that nigga said, wait, you recording right now? You recording right now? He said, I know. I know who. Yo, you looking at me, nigga?

Oh shit, you start with me, nigga? You bitch ass nigga, you start with me? Do I do some shit like that? He knew who it was. You said, hey, he said, what up, dog?

Yo, he didn't know it was a business. He didn't have his business voice on. He like, what up, dog? He knew. That's some other niggas.

Yeah, I know. Somebody tipped him off. Someone gave him his number. It was a two-way street. It was a two-way street.

Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. It's starting to add up. It's starting to add up. Joe know I would never do I congregated with y'all in the elevator about it, right? Fuck out of here.

That's one of them TMZ calls, you know what I mean? He knew who it was. What up? Hey, hey, how are you? It wasn't none of that.

What up, Joe Budden? What up? Oh, you live? Oh, okay. I'm connected.

Does that make us toxic that somebody's saying— what, a mayor saying, I'm well connected? We do take like— well, when a nigga tell you he's well connected, it's for a reason. No, he said I'm connected 17 times to let you know. Right. Stop playing with me, man.

My nigga. There's also a certain amount of history in the, the great city of— you know what's funny? You know what's funny, you bitch-ass niggas? You talk about, oh, he was letting you know, he's letting you know. We all had something to say.

It wasn't me. I mean, I'm gonna take the heat for it because that's what a leader does. Well, it's your show, but it wasn't just me. I told you I got your back. Yeah, we hold you down.

It's just when he started talking, they're gonna hold you down. Hold it back. Marcus sell me out for a seat in the office somewhere. Not in Atlantic City. I see at the tables.

I get the hairs myself. Oh my God. All right, so the BET Awards happened in LA. Yada yada yada yada yada. We all saw it.

We're here with takes. Where do y'all want to begin with this? I'll start that it was hard as fuck to find. They said it was gonna be on Paramount Plus. It was not.

It wasn't. So there's no BET+ app no more. I had to resort to some alternative, uh, methods to, to watch the show, which I didn't. Me too. I had to cut cable on.

That's what I did. I ain't turned cable on in ages, and I ain't know what channel BET was. I just guessed on some muscle memory shit, but it was VH1. That's how I know I'm older than you. Close.

I know the VH1 channel, and I don't know show the— so VH1 was showing it, Nickelodeon was showing it, all the sister channels, uh, was showing it. So it was hard to find on streaming, I'll say that. Super hard. The rebroadcast of the replay is on Paramount. Oh, it is?

That's how I got it. Yeah, it doesn't help much. It's Sunday at 8. Okay. But the show, I thought it was, uh— so I'm officially at the age where like a lot of the acts, I guess, like, who the fuck is that?

Okay. Because I might know their name and their voice, but I don't necessarily know their face right away. Okay, so I had a couple moments where I was like, I feel like the old head in there with some of the younger acts, but the performances were good. I thought Druski did a great job. I thought so too, you know.

I love Druski. It was his first go. I'll give— hosting is different. It is, it is. What's— his skits weren't that funny to me.

They didn't land like his skits usually do in internet format, I guess I would say. Oh, I see what you— I think all of— yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's— respectfully, cuz I love Druski. Listen, we absolutely love Druski. That's my Picks brother.

He's on his way— he's already there, but he's on his way to do even more amazing things. And I'm super happy that he got that opportunity. It did feel good to see a fresh face. It felt good for BET to acknowledge, uh, internet lore. And I guess we'll talk about that later on, but Drewski was like BET salute.

Not just Drewski, but the digital era and the internet and what's going on. We love that. But the awards— this was one of those times where you see the difference in internet and hosting is different. It is, it is, yeah, it is. And you know what gave that away for me?

Like, when Keke Palmer made her joke. Yeah, about, hey, I should host this, why they even asking you? And they all stood up and clapped for her. Yeah, but when she took the mic like she sounded like a host. Yeah, she did.

Yeah, that's some 10,000 hours. Yes, exactly. Uh, shout out to her. And I did enjoy Drewski, but I'm okay if I don't see him host there again. I think he could— no, I think he could do it again.

I think he'll go home, watch— yeah, watch film, see the areas that you could improve, see the areas where you might have missed. And I wish they just would have came up with new skits, new shit. That's what I didn't like. That's the thing me. He kind of rehashed the same skits that we already died laughing at, so they not going to hit the same exact way again.

I think you need a co-host with someone like Keke, maybe, as like the main MC, kind of, and then he's the comedic relief. Yeah, she put in a vibe, and she put her bid in now. Like, they saying she got it sewed up for next year. I mean, they kind of— the crowd kind of got behind her. Do you think that— yeah, the crowd wasn't really receptive to some of the stuff.

Do you think that it's because they really didn't identify who— but they, they know who's going to be in the audience. But do you think that, one, that they saw it already, or two, it just wasn't the time in the moment? That crowd was— have seen, have seen the skits. Yeah, I'm saying, but which one do you think you lean on? Like, it wasn't a— because the time, it's a time and place to do something.

I think everybody seen them skits. I was about to say that too. I think, I think a lot of them, like, like, again, some of them was older in there. Everybody ain't watch them skits and shit. I hadn't seen— when he flew in, I saw their faces.

Yeah, like, what The fuck is this? And a lot of people didn't like that church. Yeah, making fun of the church. So you led with that. Yeah, that ain't— it rubbed a couple people the wrong way.

You can see it in their faces. They was like, yo, what the fuck are you doing? Yo, black people are religious. A lot of them don't play about that church. Yeah, they look at that shit as blasphemous.

I get it. To Mark's point, me, you know, I ain't know a bunch of them. I'm like, who the fuck? So some of those people might not necessarily identify with Drewski because of Joe's point. He is major— an internet star, right?

More so than a network star, right? He's an internet star. A lot of older people don't really play the net like that, you get what I'm saying? So they, they not— and again, I'm not— again, I want to make it clear, I'm not really putting it on Drewski that he did the same skits, because it's, it's more of a writer— it's a famous corporate— we see what you did was hot online, come do it over here in front of more eyes. Fight.

Exactly. But even like when he did the walk down the aisle before he got to, uh, Keke Palmer, when he was talking to Ray J, like, I think that's hilarious. I thought that was great because that was funny. Ray J, you lied to us. And I've heard Drewski say that to him before, but in a room full of stars, I don't really give a fuck about Ray J lying to me.

Not with— not with the host. The host is there to, nigga, pinpoint point, the heads in here. Ray J not even really dressed for this shit. He got a black t-shirt on. It's just not— it's just not— that's a good point.

I mean, I still— I separate the skits from his hosting, right? And I was like, I didn't love all the skits, but I thought in terms of his crowd work, his moving, he looked comfortable. But he could get better. But I thought he did a good job. Maybe his energy was on a million.

Oh, for sure, his energy was on a million. It carried it for me. I didn't love the the whole Ice Cube— that, that did— that didn't hit. That I thought wasn't— that didn't connect. Not because we're whole Avengers, I just didn't think it was that funny.

It didn't hit. It didn't connect. Sometimes you miss. It just— that just did not hit in there. Yeah, I ain't even know that he was doing the whole— I thought he was doing fucking Rent or one of the other things.

Yeah, for real. Until he kept saying— but he was doing Rent. No, it's not crazy, it's just like, I feel you. Like, Ice Cube was there, you taking the heat emulating a Jerry curl until it hit you that he talking about Jay-Z. Yeah, it wasn't— that one missed.

I peep that right now. And doing that next to Ice Cube, that's what I didn't get. Ice Cube ain't never— that ain't that. And if you see Ice Cube anywhere as of late, he don't really be on no jokey joke shit. Like, he be super serious.

Never really been on jokey joke. Even back in the day, he wasn't on jokey joke. He's the straight man on Friday, really. Like, you coming out there doing that next to him, it just— yeah, I don't think he was joking when he said, uh, all right, you can sheep it up up here, they gonna blackball you. I don't think that was Ice Cube joking.

No, no, he wasn't. Uh, the fucking— uh, I did— no, I did laugh at, uh, some of that shit the choir was singing back there. But again, yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, the BBL rapper dude. But shout out to Drewski, amazing opportunity.

I'm sure there's a million more at your door. And it was just— it was just a room full of beautiful Black people. Every time they kind of showed— yes, the— the drone shot of the crowd down, I was dreading coming to work. I'm like, how I'm gonna come in here and say anything about this? This is just beautiful Black shit.

I ain't come— I ain't gonna be me. We come in here and try to throw rain on the parade. Is there something to say? Yeah. Well, first of all, real quick, we've been complaining about— I guess it was the hip-hop.

The hip-hop and the BET Awards are two different things. Very different. Yeah. So let me say that. But I felt like BET, as far as production-wise, they did a job.

They did, they did, they always do. I thought it was put together well. I thought the energy was, was wonderful. I think people showed up. I think people showed up.

That's the important part. What you said— I'm sorry, go ahead. I want to know some of the critiques, cuz I left there satisfied, like, oh, this was nice, this was real good. Now maybe I'm looking at it from a different lens than you guys. I have very small critiques, bitch, that are, that are significant to me, but they're not like— they might feel nitpicky.

Okay. All right, one is I think all the award shows have this problem, but I find the BET Awards has this problem more. Some— the banter between, uh, hosts, between, uh, presenters— okay— is often awkward and weird. Yeah. And it feels like some of them just don't, don't read before they get there.

Now sometimes it happens. It's very clear Ice Cube, for example, he did a great job with the first thing he presented. Second thing, he's very clearly filling in for somebody when he was reading the Lauryn Hill thing. Like, he had never seen that before. That's not his fault.

So that's the thing where, like, okay, you can't do nothing about that. That's an award show. He was a G for even stepping happening. Um, but some of the, some of the banter I thought just wasn't— if you want scripted, it should be funny. And if you're not going scripted, then let it be loose.

And it felt like it wasn't— it was like it was scripted and not funny sometimes. I didn't love that. All right, Mark opened the door right there, so I'm gonna follow. I'm gonna follow up. I don't think it's scripted.

That's what I'm telling you, it's scripted. The, the banter. Yes. I've been on a lot of these shows. You can see it on the program.

You can see them reading the script. Well, if that's the case, I agree with you because that shit seemed like it was awkward awkwardness. That's my— like, it wasn't real. I thought it wasn't scripted. It was a rehearsal the day before.

I was going to ask you— oh, you just answered my question. I'm sorry. We're good. No, I was gonna say, is it possible that, yeah, it's scripted, but the person reading the script is new to them? And that's the point.

That's what it felt like. That's a production question. Like, if I'm presenting, I should be there the day before, or I should be really good at reading, or I should be— there has to be something. You shouldn't first read it online. You shouldn't be reading it in front of— I agree.

10 million people. That's what that felt like. Yeah. Um, I hate to say this, but kind of to Mark's point, some of the presenters— and BET does this more than anybody— the presenters, they about to come out, got a show coming somewhere. Oh yeah, they got— they let you get your promo off, and they come out there as the show trio or duo and be like, all right, this, this fall at 9:00, uh, what do you think, Trev?

What's the name of our show? And it's just like, ABT. I damn near didn't give a fuck about y'all being on. He said, I care about Two Dads and a Baby. I don't care what the fuck Cole from Martin is, and he looked great.

He looked great. He looked amazing. But guess who is not gonna watch the new Cole show. And that was my man D-Ray up there. That D-Ray's family friend of the show.

I'm not watching none of this shit. I'm sorry. I'm gonna watch those commercials as much as the blatant— like, I wish they could find a cooler way to do the corporate sponsors. They're nasty. Like, it's like, we see Verizon.

Rest in peace Sonny Rollins, presented by Doritos. That was crazy. They could do that shit a little bit smoother. And because of that, because of them doing what you said, I paid attention to that shit so much more. At some point in broadcast.

I'm like, yo, these niggas is getting all the money. Hyundai, Doritos, Verizon. Duh, Miami's like, duh. They was out of here. Yeah, shit went on.

They shot a liquor commercial mid-show and took a shot. Yeah, yeah. When Kiki went up there, she said, and Verizon, we gonna get the chip. Verizon is right there, we saying it. Oh my God, that's what I said, it was too much.

It was like Verizon's here because the Living Legend Award presented by Verizon. Verizon, with Verizon already sitting there. Like, we get it, Verizon. Like, it's too heavy-handed. All right, I'm gonna say some more shit that I shouldn't say.

I'm right, I got your back, just like with the mayor. I wish they'd stop asking Martin to do shit. Yo, thank you. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. As a Black person with one of our better Black actors and comedians— yep.

Come on, yo, just stop. Yeah, come on. Yeah, enough. Yeah, am I off? No, no, no.

When I walked in, remember? Yeah, I was like Yo, is it me or what's up? Something, something's— why they can't just sit, sit, let— why they can't just let him sit down, chill, bring him some water, something like— even if you don't want to— camera, yeah, just shout when you do your who's in the building. Oh, we got the legend Martin in the building, like some— just something. You don't have to have him on stage like that.

Yeah, I don't like to see that. I don't like hearing him talk like that. I don't like seeing him. He just doesn't look like his best self, and he's such a legend. We love him so much.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That whole bit didn't— it just, it felt off. Yeah, it's awkward. That's what I mean.

That's the thing. I love the show, but I just think sometimes, again, the dialogue, the bit, they just, they don't be— they just miss the mark a little bit sometimes, and they make me uncomfortable. Yeah, that's what it is. They make me uncomfortable when I'm watching them. Overall, I did enjoy the show a lot.

Yeah, we're a long way from overall. I know, I know. I don't like shitting on shit and they're not like— I didn't recognize that it was a good show. Yeah, no, it was a good show. Can I ask a question?

Everything I got is a nitpick. How many How many awards did they give out? Uh, 4, 5. That was my whole thing. I'm like, who's with— like, oh, I could tell you it wasn't many, but it was not.

But that's the case with most, uh, major award shows. Yeah, but at least like even with the Grammys, they'll do the pre-show, they'll let you know who won years away. Like, I didn't know who— it's no time to give out awards when you're counting money. And that's what you're talking about. This is not really an award show.

We in the back, count all the money. Yeah, yeah, awards. It's a concert. I was surprised every time an award came out. Cardi got an award.

Yeah, Clips got an award. TI opened up with a performance. He was great. I enjoyed all the performances. K1, uh, even though her fans was mad that they went to commercial, but that's what they do.

That's what they do. Yeah, uh, but she was great. I do have a problem with, uh, people just not singing or rapping live. Yeah, yeah, like the TV track every year gets louder and louder and only it. Like, Max and French was very like— it was the song.

It was the song, but they look, they look great up there. They look like absolute money up there. Again, Jas'ma didn't want to kiss— we got to ask Jazz why she won't kiss this nigga every time he go for some sugar in public. She turned her— she turned her head. And he's such a boss-looking nigga, it don't ever faze him.

He don't never— he don't give a fuck. But she won't— not kiss— I gotta get some tea. And she hold down too, she don't tell the tea. I tried, I tried. But Max and French look absolutely great when they put the minks on.

Yeah, they did, they did. I was glad that there was that New York representation up there. What else happened? Cardi B was hilarious. Yo, to me, this song was— and then after them, and then you went on the internet asking them to lay off of Bia.

That was the funniest thing in the world. They did it because you did it. She went right online and said, yo, I'm not a bully, I don't condone bullying, and I don't mess with people if they stop messing with me. Meanwhile, Bia just put out an album like 2 days before. So leave her alone, yada yada, which I do like though.

I'm not gonna hold you. I like her saying it, even if it's— I agree. All right, you know what's funny? And, and again, my men should be acting up. I— but I swore Cardi B came out, did a verse from that song, moved on, did some other songs, came back as like the grand finale with the Bia this from the song that she opened up with.

So you went out of your way. And listen, Cardi didn't say Latto's name, but she said that— she said Bia with the strongest beat I ever heard. She made sure she walked to the front of the stage. Also, can we do something about hip-hop backup dancers? Like, when I came in the world, we had had Crazy Legs, Scooby Scrapp.

What the fuck is this? Wait, we had— what was Big Daddy Kane's brother? Scooby Scrapp. Oh, there's somebody— Heavy D. What was Heavy D? Uh, oh, um, The Boyz.

The Boyz. But he talking about T-Roy. Yeah, T-Roy. Like, yo, rest in peace, Trouble T-Roy. Rest in peace.

Like, that's who was there today. Do y'all look at these background dancers? Yeah, every nigga is fucking just fucking gay. I knew you were gonna say it. I had some things with him.

It was gay though. It was, it was. Wait, that sounds like I got a problem with, and I don't, but I'm just saying, can we hire like more people? Straight dudes don't dance no more. Yeah, they can't dance with the dances that they asking them to do behind these rappers, because I was looking, them niggas here.

They playing with each other. They fucking grabbing dicks up. They grabbing dicks up there. I'm like, yo, dog, all right, I'm going to go make a coffee. Pride Month is definitely over, y'all.

Like, honestly, now, Cardi B did amazing up there. Shout out to Cardi. Who else performed? Kehlani. Kehlani was great.

She bodied. Kehlani was— I love that song. I love the performance. She looked great. I love Timbs too.

Slow down, slow down, slow it down, slow it down. Flip. Hey Timmy, they gonna clip that up. Hey Timmy, Timbs, Timbs. Now's a good time to ask you a question that you had.

Mhm. What was the question about? During Kalani's performance, Jamie Foxx— thank you— Jamie Foxx and his daughter didn't seem like they were playing playing the guitar. Oh, guitar wasn't plugged in for shit. I asked this earlier, I don't play around people's children, but I remember watching it like, I'm trying to wait to hear the guitar sound.

I also have to say, as a guitar player, it wasn't being played. No, but have you seen a guitar? No, don't do that, that's not nice. I think that she knew the notes, but it's I was— I put my ear to the laptop too, you know. I didn't use the television.

But I don't know what is that whole thing about. I don't— I was— why do you think she knew the notes? I used to play guitar as a kid. Okay, that's why I, I don't— so that's why I'm asking. And it seemed like she did.

Sorry. How old were you? Um, that as a kid is vague. I play guitar from like 9 to 12. How many times did you play?

How many strings did the guitar have? I I forgot, I forgot. I played the guitar though. How do you hold the guitar? The banjo.

Ukulele. Yeah, he played the— he had the tiny guitar that they have. No, put it in the cart, son.

Wait, you talking about the shit that had the speakers? The speakers on it? No, I was at the tall school in Cambridge Heights. That's what's up. You want to get You went to guitar school?

I did, man. Oh, that's what's up. My mom put me in there, man. I was giving trouble. Yo, why do Black parents— now that we older, I know all the times y'all trying to get rid of us, yo.

I'm calling my mom right now, nigga. Yo. Guitar school, piano school. That's good. That's a good thing.

I'm not lying. They did it to me too. I played the ukulele. You believe you can read sheet music? Sometimes.

I used to. Sometimes? I used to. F-A-C-E. I used to know how to read it.

I used to know how to play. Give me a guitar. Show you. Okay. You borrowed mine before.

You be part of the gang. We talking about doing a band here. We used to do this part in a room where guitars were just hanging everywhere. I never saw you touch— I wasn't around. He let me his guitar for a video.

Yeah, so, you know, really? He had that for a video? Yeah, that's true. I play the recorder, nigga. I play all that shit.

How you hold a recorder? Like this, man. Show me again. I remember that shit. Hold Come on, nigga.

All right, this musician's listening. Yeah, you don't play no instrument, bitch ass nigga. Who don't play no instrument? You, you. Who don't play no instrument?

They let you get away with that. You don't play no instruments. You don't play no instruments. Don't talk to me about a nigga that play instruments before. Go play a drum somewhere or something.

What'd you say you played a drum? Drums are an instrument. No, I know, but I'm making a joke. His father played the drums, he said before, I think. So I'm about to say, don't take Pop's credit.

That's why I was going into y'all niggas put y'all cape on for this Nigga, I don't need them to cater for me. I play piano by ear. I don't know what that means, I'm sorry. It means if I hear it, rapping is— I can play. Joe's mouth is an instrument.

Oh, all right, that's what they said. Nice, with the male organ. I don't like that. What you mean that's what they said? You was talking to them?

Is he a cunnilingus?

Yo, I write— I, I've used up all my jokes about this topic. Okay, I want to join in with y'all. Yeah, yeah, it's fine. We can, uh, acknowledge that it may not have been, uh, plugged in. And yeah, I think the performance was good.

I don't really— I'm not a fan of, but let's get to the trivia. So Jamie didn't play the piano neither? I don't think so, but maybe. But he— we know he can. We know he can.

He mimed it really good if he wasn't playing. And, and there might be— and also there might be a reason, there might be a technical reason why they weren't playing. Yeah, I think you're actually not a allowed to play. I forget, in live, I don't think it can be live. It has to be backing tracks.

I forget the FCC rules, but there is some. That's what I'm saying, there's a technical reason why. I just don't know it. I just know that makes sense. Yeah, when I worked at BET, they used to say that.

I'd been to some rehearsals, but I don't, I don't know. There is an FCC rule about live instruments. I don't know when and where. I think it's live TV, but we can move on to the tributes. Before we get to the tributes, because I want us to close with the tributes, Tiana I cried.

Oh, she spoke, but I'm also biased. I love her. I love her. I love her so much. A Rose from Harlem, friend of the show.

She's great. Amazing. It's Janet. It's Janet. That's what I told— I told y'all how Teyana feels about Janet.

You can kind of see that jumping off of the screen. Every one of those tears was real. She ain't know. Every one of those tears was real. That was— yeah.

Um, but I saw some people saying, should Teyana be getting this Icon Award? And I guess they're saying that she's young because she's so young. But no, but, and they don't really understand. No, the award was for the year. Oh, okay.

It was a lifetime— it wasn't a Lifetime Achievement Award, it was an award for the year. Well, that's why they need to do a better job naming some of them awards, because at least 4 of them I thought was the same award. No, it was the Sylvia Rhone Award. Yeah, uh, that's the ultimate Icon Award. Yeah.

All right, see, I was one of the voters, so like, I remember they sent us like descriptions, although we didn't vote on those two things, but they told us what they were going to be. And I was thinking like you, like, this doesn't— Ultimate Icon vs. Icon of the Year could be confusing if it's not really explained well on camera. It makes sense on paper, but when you say it out loud, it necessarily doesn't translate. And so a lot of people thought it was like a lifetime award for Teyana. In fairness, the Grammys does similar things where it's kind of unclear clear what the fucking— for sure— award is for.

So I don't want to pitch— no, that's not a BET issue, it's just award shows don't do a good job. But yeah, but a lot of them— all right, actually I do have a few more topics before we get to the tribute, so let's kind of rapid fire. I don't want to drag the BET Awards too much. What did you guys think about the SZA, Doechii saxophone moment? I think it was another, uh, bit that didn't go over well.

I think it's just, again, I don't think SZA or Doechii knew But they didn't have— back to me asking how many awards were presented. It's clear they wanted to use this, the saxophones getting louder thing, at some point in the night. But they ain't present no awards really, and people got up there and got off quick. Yeah. Now I got two people on stage.

This is the perfect opportunity, no matter what they do, right, to just get our little saxophone getting louder shit off. Now because it's them two, it's gonna have some pushback. Yeah, it's gonna be received a certain way. They also didn't know what was going on, so they were in on the joke. Like, you got to make people be in on the joke, I think, for it to— I thought Doji handled that shit like that.

She smoked it. I like it. Talked her shit after. And that shit ain't no joke. Yeah, when you up there presenting it, it ain't funny, you know what I mean?

If you up there talking, it ain't funny. Um, he did say in the beginning, like, yo, I'm gonna give y'all 30 seconds. If y'all don't get off in 30 seconds, this the music y'all gonna hear, right? So I think maybe to get it in one time during show, they pick that time. But if you the person, you ain't with that shit.

If you don't know, you're not with that shit. And I think, I think they try to keep people from knowing what's going on for genuine reaction. Okay. Because again, this is the internet shit, and that's how I be with a lot of these skits and all this, like, I'm trying to get a real reaction from y'all and maybe we can make it funny, right? Freeze, how did you feel about, uh, Best Male Hip-Hop?

Freeze and Parks, who won again? Who won? Clips won. Oh no, they won Artist of the Year too. Album of the Year.

Oh, then that's the one I'm thinking about. Album of the year. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with it. That was up in the air to me. I just wish they'd been there.

I'm not blaming them, I'm just saying, like, on tour in Europe. No, no criticism of them. I'm just saying I love— one of the things about BET Awards was typically the people who won showed up. True. And they were very intentional, at least back in the day, about making— let me not say that.

Coincidentally, the people who won the awards were there. And so I was, I was, I was kind of expecting them to pop out and they didn't. So I was like, I just want to see them. That was the only thing I didn't like for such a big award. And they seem, again, they seem surprised when presented it.

Yeah, that's what the nominees— they kind of were looking around. It was like 17 people. It was a few. I also think it's weird if you're biased towards just giving it to someone that's in the building too. So it's, it's a double-edged sword, I think, a little bit.

I agree. Well, you know, before— I mean, we can't prove it, but that was how they got you in the building, right? Yeah, you got to perform, right? And that's why they started the Academy. Wale, I think, uh, JID.

A lot of people was— it was a while. It was a bunch of good hip-hop albums this year. It was Clips. Number one. You can't, you can't argue about that Clipse album winning.

I wouldn't. Even if you— even if another— like, if Wale album won, I wouldn't have been mad. I love that album. I love that album. We're killing this rapid fire thing.

Let's get to the tributes. You have more? No, tributes. Okay, so there were two tributes. Following Mark's lead, let's start, start with D'Angelo.

Okay, the D'Angelo one, uh, I thought— first of all, First of all, it was, uh, the second tribute we've seen for D'Angelo because the Grammys did one. Yeah. So you have to look at it and get in that context because the Grammys already covered some of the big hits, the stuff that people I think in that crowd may have known more because that crowd did not seem to be kind of locked into the songs or the music. Mark, you're gonna start with a cape. No, I'm just— I'm about— and do you believe that what you're saying?

Even if, even if Jesse Collins is responsible for both productions. I still am not holding the BET tribute up against the light for what the Grammy tribute was. No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I want to hear— I want to hear him finish. This is what I'm saying.

First of all, I'm saying it was a good decision to not do the same thing the Grammys did. I like the fact that they— that they did— that they had Vanguard perform and that they didn't just do Brown Sugar Lady and all that shit. I'm saying that was a good thing. I'm saying that was a good thing. Um, where I thought they went wrong was I didn't necessarily think the personnel was right.

Yeah. And so the crowd couldn't really— you know what I mean? For example, I'm a huge Ari Lennox fan. I don't think that was the right song for her for that performance. It didn't match the vibe of D'Angelo, and it felt a little bit awkward to me.

Couldn't agree more. Yeah, it wasn't— again, it wasn't the song choice. If you're gonna go back, she looked and sounded great, nigga, but she shouldn't have been doing doing that. No, then I don't think it would have been the worst if she— if the rest of the show went well, you know what I'm saying? If she was lead off.

Yes. Yeah. And she got better and it got better, correct? Yeah, but it, it did. And listen, uh, Duran Ben-Ar, I thought he was the highlight.

Friend of the show. I enjoyed seeing him every time he popped out, which was a lot of times. It was Yes, he did it. He did, he did, he was, he did, he was doing his thing. I couldn't be happier for him.

He shouldn't have been singing Shit Damn Motherfucker, and he killed it. Yeah, but he should not have been singing Shit Damn Motherfucker, a song, you know, the song is about— yeah, that was the problem. And he up there, which just not this song. Yeah, again, he killed it, but that's what I said, my issue with this was the personnel, not the song choice. Oh, talented people Listen, the next brother I'm about to say something about, I feel like is one of the most talented musicians out.

Who, BJ? Yes. They absolutely destroyed the pocket of Devil's Pie, by the way. They put that shit up to like 120 BPM or something stupid. That shit was like, uh.

That was another— that's what I'm saying. Again, I understood that they didn't want to just do the same thing that had already been done. So I get the vanguard set. I actually think that was kind of cool. I, I don't— I ain't even mad at the people they chose, just the wrong George Clinton.

George Clinton is back to us, the legendist of legends, but his involvement was— it was weird. Yeah, it was weird. And saying George Clinton's involvement is weird is like what he's going for most of the time, right? But it didn't, it didn't hit. It didn't hit.

It didn't hit. I couldn't agree. Y'all being nice. Couldn't agree with y'all more. Y'all are being— I would give it a C+.

I wouldn't give it a C+. I give it a C, maybe. You know what I like? I thought Vanguard sounded great. I thought the band sounded a amazing.

That's actually what I like. I like, I like the— except for that one, Devil's Pie. Yeah, except for Devil's Pie. I thought they sounded good, so that, that's what gave it a C+ for me, because sometimes the band don't sound good. Vanguard was going to sound good.

Yeah. And that's— that was the, that was the rock. That was, to me, was what held it. I think that D'Angelo has enough music to where they could have even chose some more, more, more songs or better songs. Yes.

Some of them songs, this need to get done, and I don't give a fuck. How many D'Angelo tributes was done before? Get Bilal over here. I'm not gonna lie, I feel that Bilal should be present at every D'Angelo, uh, tribute. For me, that's— niggas was like, but the Grammy— so fuck what they did, right?

Like, we don't have— they did it so good though. I'm with you, Ish. I agree. It's enough Black musicians that are talented enough to have smoked that shit. Like, we don't— nah.

Did the Grammys do, uh, Smokey Robinson with Cruisin'? I think so. Oh wait, we can't do Smokey Robinson because cleaning company.

Yeah, that, that one wasn't great. Uh, how'd you guys feel about Lauren? I like Lauren. I like Lauren much better. I loved it.

I loved the— let me rephrase. Jersey people in the building. I loved the rapper-singer combinations in lore and shit. Yeah, a lot. We can't say we gave Common and Queen Latifah— that one was weird.

Plus, and we didn't like that. That's weird. I got a lot of feelings about the Laura one. Yeah, but you like the D'Angelo one? I gave it a C+.

Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Who was the person? That was much better. I'm not saying it wasn't, I'm just saying it was— I enjoyed the, the D'Angelo one. I wasn't even always entertained by.

I was kind of— I was always thinking about what was wrong with the Lauren one. I was able to settle in and like it. There were some big hits and there were some misses, for sure. I thought, um, starting with, um, uh, War— Smoked It, uh, War, uh, Ready or Not, that's what they started with. Time— was that SZA and, um, no, no, the country, the country group, uh, the husband and wife.

Yeah, they started with— oh yeah, you're right, you're right, my fault, my fault. Yes, you're right. Joyful Joyful, you're right. No, no, it's War and, um, they, they, they were one country duo a couple years ago. Uh, I swore they started War and Treaty, the Warren Treaty.

It was a gospel song. Yeah, that's called Joyful Joyful though. Yeah, the song Joyful Joyful. I'm saying the girl's trying to get a group. I want to shout them out.

Okay, got it. Um, they killed it. Body, they killed it. And honestly, if you watch the performance, you could see when Lauren was really feeling it and having a great time versus when she was trying to not do the Mariah but was feeling it inside. Yeah, when she got on stage, she got in diva mode.

We'll get to that in a second. Don't you ever call that the Mariah again. No, that's what's admiration. That's the Prince. Called the Prince.

Yeah, you know, I see. Yeah, it's definitely the Prince. It's definitely the Prince. Um, yeah, why the fuck am I— and she looked great, but why am I looking at Doja Cat right now? Uh, so part of my issue was Lauren got so many amazing songs when she's rapping and singing, it's hard to find people that can do that.

So you had to have some combos. Well, we could find a black girl to do it. No argument for me. No argument for me. I don't want to look at this little white girl while we celebrating.

But I'll tell you something, she did better than some of the people who— she did a great job. And I'll tell you, for example, for example, I'm just saying I didn't want to see her do that. I'm not talking about her talent. No, because she actually did a good job. She had a good job.

Absolutely bodied. Yep, they did. SZA and Doechii fucking killed it. Absolutely killed it. Yes, they did.

They killed it. That was one of my favorites. Uh, Tierra and Tems smoked. Body. Tierra White.

Okay, I like that one a lot. I didn't like like, and I'm a Tierra Whack fan, super fan. I just, I, I wanted to see a little more, a little more energy from her. Okay. I, I didn't like her stage energy that, that night, but I thought, I thought she, she killed the, she killed the rap.

She did a thing. I like the outfit, the hat, all that. I thought she was fly. I thought she was dope. I just, I just, it just felt a little low energy for me compared to what was happening on stage.

And when I watched Common, who's like 50 out there, like killing it, energy— we're gonna get to that. Yeah, that's a different issue. I'm not talking about before. Okay. Energy.

Um, Latifah's energy was crazy. She was, she killed it. She did a good job. She smoked that shit. Smoked that shit.

Latifah and Common, they, they closed it. I thought the opening and closes were great. Rapsody and Lizzo killed it except when Lizzo started rapping. But she was killing the singing. Rapsody was so in pocket on the fucking rhymes, and then Lizzo came in on some back and forth shit and fucked that shit up.

This is the— that was my problem. It should have been Rapsody rapping, correct, and Lizzo singing, correct. Rapsody did great. She was so in pocket. I love Rhapsody.

I think they killed that show. I, I didn't love Lizzo. Who's the lady that sung Killing Me Softly? I don't know who that was actually, because she kind of— I didn't really— like, there was a part— she smoked it, but I don't— she did a good job, but she didn't smoke happy. You ain't know?

You thought she smoked it? No, no. Yeah, there was a part where— what, what— the ad-lib part that she didn't do correctly, that kind of bothered me. The bridge, she cracked a little bit. Yes, thank you, thank you.

She still killed that shit. She— the bridge bothered me. I mean, I was like, ah, yo, to give the D'Angelo performance to me a C+, that Lauren, that Lauren tribute had to be an A. I give it a B+. I liked it a lot. That you talking about, her name is, uh, Alexia J. Alexia J. Alexia J. Shout out to her.

I think that shit was fire. I didn't love the bridge on that, but I, I would give the Lauren one a B+, A- for me. Um, Lauren had a couple surprises. I agree with you, B+, A-. Yeah, I'm with y'all.

They had a couple surprises for the Lauren thing, including her children, right? So when they said we're gonna— now Zion, I expected to hear Zion, a song for Zion. Yeah, you know, how beautiful is nothing more, you know. Instead he came out, it fucked me up. Yeah, right.

First of all, I'm old as fuck. Zion is— because I was there at Tower Records in '98 when standing there waiting for the album to release, and for Zion to now be this grown-ass man hand, like damn near 30. Yeah, it was crazy to me. Um, I would have— it's— look, it's her kids, it's her performance, cool. Yeah, it's not what I wanted to see, it's not what anybody in that building wanted to see, but it ain't— it's what she wanted to see.

But she wants— that's what I said, tribute to her. It's a tribute to her, so do it. I don't think they did a good job. It's like, we can nitpick, they did fine. And that's why I said, well, who's they?

The organizers? No, no, that's not what he's saying. Black Mo' Barks, come on in, come on in. Who's they? I think the kids did fine.

There were two kids, right? So YG performed, he bodied it. YG performed, and then, um, there was, uh, Selah, her daughter, Marley, her daughter, who came out and sang, uh, um, she looked great. Beautiful gowns. Selah is a model, a singer, an entrepreneur, wonderful young lady.

She's like 28 now. Okay. Um, forget how old these kids are. She sang for her mother. Um, I thought that that was, uh, tough shoes to fill.

Yeah, for anybody. For anybody. Yes, but they're especially tough shoes to fill. My mom is Lauryn Hill, my grandpa is Bob Marley. Yeah, that's a really tough— that's tough.

I mean, why are we— I'm trying to throw the cake to you, but I don't think— I don't think we'll make it that far. It was bad. It was a bad performance. Yeah, but, well, okay, we're gonna highlight the bad, but highlight the good that YG did a good job. Why'd you— I thought you didn't stay on that.

He came came out and he represented for his grandfather, he represented for his mother. He sounded great. He did. The son, we got to highlight that before we get to the daughter coming out there and just doing a tribute to her mother because her mother wanted her to. You could tell it was something.

I'm surprised by it. I just think that out of— she said, I'm doing this for you, Mom. It seemed like her mother always told her it was something between them. That's how I took that. Well, you can see with Laura, like, even when, um, when she did the Kanye show, she's at this point where it's like, yo, if I'm involved, I want my kids involved.

Yeah, that's how it should be. You know what I'm saying? If you got me here, my kids are performing. And so I think Sela, again, who I think is very talented, and I was very happy to see her on stage tribute to having tribute to her mom. And again, I love to see her mom that happy.

She was like elated, elated to see her baby on stage singing to her at the BET. I mean, it's fucking amazing. I can't even imagine what that would be like. She chose, or they, it was chosen for her to sing The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, which is a vocally somewhat challenging song. Mm-hmm.

Um, and so some of the runs in that, some of the— some— that's not an easy song for a really, really experienced vocalist to do. Sure. And it, it wasn't the best fit. That's what I'll say. It ain't even— it might not even be about that.

Like, again, that's a kid. That could be her mother's favorite song, and she's like, you know what, I'm gonna do that. All right, I'm doing mom's favorite record. This ain't— at this point, this ain't about the fans, this ain't about the viewers, this is about my kids up here are singing to me. And as a parent, that's some fly shit.

I don't care if you get up there and fuck it up. In the world, I ain't mad at it. My job is to say what I felt. Out of 12, 13 performances, if we didn't strike gold on 2 of them, we got, we got to hit it. Yeah, like, I thought that shit was amazing.

If you ever do a tribute to me, put my kids up there. I don't give a fuck if they ain't got a musical bone in their body. Let them go up there and bang some pots and pans. Be the drummer boys on the bus. Ever.

Yeah, like, I see what you doing, Joe. I think that shit was dope. What, leaving me on this island? Yeah, you, you there. I'm fine.

No, but that's where I am on, on the kids. You see, I muted up even on the Jamie Foxx kids shit. Like, these, these are, these are young kids. Yeah, well, they not that— I mean, if it was— they ain't my kids. My, my— I can't, I can't do that to no kids.

Go ahead. I'm not— I'm not— I don't care what you sound like. Yeah, I just didn't like Love Again. I, I, I'm a big fan of her. I'm a huge fan of Lauren.

Lauren's my idol. I just didn't— that wasn't the my favorite performance in the book. What did Common rap? Did Common rap Lost Ones? Uh, he, uh, yes.

That was weird. I don't want to hear a dude rapping Lost Ones. I, I, yeah, I feel you. I mean, you know, Common, the lyrics are unis— Common is popping up everywhere. That's a little legend, but I just didn't need him there, that's all.

There is— I was okay with him at a Lauren— his energy was great. His energy was great. I thought him and Queen Latifah had great energy. I would have rather had one more Jersey artist there on the stage instead of comment. I don't know, he did, uh, Retrospect for Life or something like that.

Like, that actually would have made sense, but that's his song, so I get why, you know. And I love that song, but that's his. Nah, shit was fire. Yeah, Nas tore it the fuck down. Shit was fine.

They brought Tems back out, you know what I mean? She sang on that.

Yo, I love you. Came out every award. Yeah, no, I thought, I thought overall, I thought the Lauren tribute was like, again, B+, A-. I thought it was great. And then after that, there's a commercial.

We come back, I still saw MLH up there, and I was like, wait, is she going to perform? Because sometimes people perform at the thing, sometimes they don't, right? I thought you was coming out. That MLH thing be fucking me up. I do be feeling away about that.

I was like, oh shit, they got Mark. And then, uh, she, she sang, uh, X Factor. Uh, it was closer to the original arrangement than she usually does, closer to the record. Someone in that background vocal group or band was getting fired. She kept me the whole time.

She was just yelling at somebody. Yeah, someone got barked on backstage. Yeah, she was happy. Every time she do X Factor live, I love every version of it. Really?

You can't fuck that song up. It's impossible. That is one of the greatest songs ever made. Anytime I hear it, that's normal. For me, that song is up there with damn near Purple Rain.

Like, it's, it's, it's up there. It's up there. It's up there. See, I like the original. I don't I don't like sometimes some of the renditions.

I hate them. Yeah, I don't like some of the renditions, but I— song is a song. I've seen Lauren. Her killing, um, her killing that shit, uh, and she did it better where I seen her at, uh, the last time, but different. It's always different.

Yeah, but, but yeah, different. But her doing it reminded me that nobody else was performing right. She is what I want to hear. The— where this is different, or you didn't hit this note, or you changed the run, or you did— I want to hear your life. That was 30 years ago, and I might not have it no more at 52.

I want to hear all of that. Although she sounded as good as I've heard her in a while. Yeah, she sounded great. She sounded great. She sounded good.

She sounded amazing. Looked great too. And it's tough. Looked amazing. I said this, I'd say this every time.

I see her kill some shit. But that album, that album is hard to find. Yes, it's past that. That's almost underselling it. Yeah, it's like, you gotta go get Thriller, you gotta go get— it's rare air.

You gotta— yeah, it's up there with that. And yeah, across— like, take whoever your favorite artist is, you can't do it, whoever it is, and take all their albums They ain't got that. It's about 5 albums that I could say are hands down better in, in like the 20th century. I'm talking about like Songs in the Key of Life, right? Amazing Grace.

I'm talking like, yo, dog, and some of them you're gonna get an argument from some people for sure. No lie. Like, that shit is that. It's— yeah, yeah. And he— and that gave, that gave me grace for the people who had just performed.

Like, I watched the performance and I was like, it was a B+, A-. Then I heard her and I was like, wait, no one can do this. Like, this shit is— yeah, this is another level. This is Stevie Wonder level. This is like— exactly, Aretha.

This is like some other shit. Yeah, that was so good she had to make another one. Yeah, yeah, she just did a little acoustic set and then— no, it's the scary shit. That's it. She was like 22 years old, 23 years old.

She was maybe a little bit— yeah, maybe. Yeah, I guess she graduated high school in my year. Oh, okay. She was young as shit, bro. And, and to put that project out at high school together— no.

Okay, she went to Mark's high school. Oh, but I used to just be around. But no, what I'm saying, no, all jokes aside, but yo, early 20s, you, you, you, you gave the world that in your early 20s. Here you go again, little fucking legend over there. There's a path here that I'm just not going to take.

But to give the world that in your early 20s, bro, is remarkable. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Yes. It's even more remarkable.

Even more remarkable doing it at 70. But I'm just saying, if you were a seasoned musician you had 3 or 4 albums, this was your first album. My nigga, she did that first album, first solo album rather, right, in your early 20s. Like, that shit is, is unparalleled. It's amazing.

It's a pretty amazing— yeah, that shit is crazy. Yeah, um, you know Lauren and Wyclef are fucking musical geniuses. Yeah, for sure. Oh man, could you imagine what them sessions— we know some prize verses. Yeah, yeah, battle in battle.

John Forte versus— rest in peace. Just reading the patch made the Goddamn, John Forte, dog. Fucking sickening. That album's dope too. Hey, shout out to Jerry Wonder too, man.

And Jerry Wonder, underappreciated genius. Yes, another one, man. Wyclef just had a, uh, uh, that— a front porch performance. Y'all, y'all know the YouTube series Front Porch? Yeah.

And he absolutely smoked it. Wyclef's one of the best performers. He's amazing. Again, you realize he's a— because The Carnival is again one of my albums. It's not Miseducation, but it's one of those albums albums that is so good, and 30 years later it's even better when you see the diversity.

Doing nothing but touring globally ever since. That's a killer. Then y'all saying is a Fendi. That's a fact. That is 100%.

That's Wyclef. That's the Jersey great. Okay, he, him. But don't say the, the carnival in Miseducation. I just said it's not— don't even— that's a great album though, but it's an elite— it's a classic album.

Album, and I put it's a classic album. Do that. It's a great album. Don't say it with Miseducation again though. That's all.

Just love it. It's not the same sound. It's not the same block. Not the same. I said it's not Miseducation, but don't even— you don't even— you don't need to say that because if I don't, if I don't, be like Mark said the Carnival.

Yeah, you can say Carnival, classic, dope, his joints is 8:30. Nobody said— nobody know weird. Whatever, say that. No, I agree, we all on the same page. And yet this will still turn into a Mark said the carnival's— well, night one of the year, right?

Oh man. All right, so we enjoyed the— we enjoyed the awards. Again, shout out to everybody who flew out there. I didn't hear no stories of violence. I didn't hear nobody getting— I did see Jim Jones, uh, talking to security rather aggressively.

Some near violence.

Died too, but he seemed violent when he was here. It wasn't him. Tip kept walking. It was his crew. It was going ham on the— that's what I mean.

That's what I mean. Kevin Gates pushed somebody off of him, you know. Yeah, you know, sometimes people be too close. Y'all think, y'all think they missed it with, um, not having Carisha perform? Kind of, yeah.

The way the crowd, the way that crowd went off on that shit. Yes, they missed it. They missed it 1,000% on that. I reckon they didn't miss it. They didn't.

Is that a Uh, because her performance, maybe. No, I'm saying no, no, no, no, no, no. They've been working on awards forever. She put this song out a fucking hour ago. You could make it work.

Oh, they could have filled it. We could have got that. We're not rearranging our award show for Carisha to come here and fucking do this. We ain't even let her do it outside. We're not letting her do it inside.

But I love that she took a second and let the audience sing. I love that. That was great. And that was organic. Like, you couldn't didn't pay for that, you know what I'm saying?

Which was fine. True. Sponsored by Trojan. I'm trying to tell you, that song is so hard that when I was in the spot the other night and it got to like 1:45, 2 AM, and it didn't come going, like, I called the DJ names in my head. I'm like, it's fucking 2:15, nigga.

If you know what to play, the fuck, you know we here for. The bartender's on their phones, nigga. Do something. Play the shit that's gonna get this shit going, nigga. Goddamn.

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It is. Uh, fucking Malik Beasley is an absolute dickhead, but we'll come back to all of that. Uh, was there anything else in music? Music, music. Um, well, prior to the BET Awards airing, they did, uh, Bow Wow's Tiny Desk, which was— I think it was the first one to air on television.

Okay. Because it, it aired at 7:30 and led right into the awards. Yeah. Okay. And he absolutely killed it, man.

He killed it. And he reminded a lot of people— it was, you know, but Tiny Desk quick. Um, he did Out of My System, Fresh, Fresh, Fresh As I Miss, Shorty Like Mine, Bounce With Me, Let Me Hold You, and Like You. That's a strong— that's a strong 6, you know what I mean? But yeah, they, they, they did a real— it was a really good— I enjoyed it.

I watched— I actually tuned in to watch that going into the wars, and, um, he smoked it. Like, it's a good reminder because people keep playing with Bow Wow's name when come up. Yeah, like, yo, y'all forget that I got these records, you know. His background vocalist was killing these shits, all of them.

And I like— hey, hey, yeah, it's groovy, groovy with the band.

Look, a rapper rapping, right, during a live performance.

Just. Oh shit, shout out Just. DJ Just, I love you.

Hey, hey, this is hard.

I mean, if you listening with your loved one, go ahead and give a little sugar. Go ahead and give your loved one a little bit of Sugar, yo, you used to be a dancer, yo. You be dancing on the low. Why you stop dancing, yo? I'm about to get back to it.

You talented motherfucker on the low, man. It's going to hurt me.

Damn, he sound good, yo. He does. He sound real good. Wow, wow. Salute, man.

I wonder why Bow Wow ain't been up here yet. When do they— when, as musicians, right, both of you guys, when do an artist get to a level like that? Is it continue practicing, continuing? Is it continuously? Is it touring?

When do they get to a level of the breath control where they sound good, they sound coherent? Where does that come from? From doing it. So it's just continuously— yeah, reps, reps. He's been doing it for a long time.

Yeah, Bow Wow got a lot of years in this shit. Yeah, to keep his image as clean as he has for this long, for, for his demo, for those, those young kids, all of them fucking ages on BET. Bow Wow's a host. Yeah, Bow Wow's an actor. Yes, he's an entertainer for real.

Yeah, he's a pro. He's Bow Wow, the Millennium Tour. He's got— he's— Bow Wow is kind of him a little bit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I wrote it up there, I said more respect need to be put on Bow Wow's name.

It does, like, for that reason. Even in acting, on a— on an acting front, he does well on all the shit he's been in. He just kind of not trying to be funny. But why isn't more respect? Why isn't Bow Wow's name— you said why isn't it?

Why people always— because of this kid? Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing. No, no, they tagged Corny. That's the second thing. That's all it is.

That's tight. Corny. But that's it. When that happens, it don't matter because he was doing this. Bow Wow tagged Corny?

Yes. Yes, he was. Yes, he was. Okay, but is that with the airplane shit? A lot of that shit.

All of the airplane shit was bad, but it was funny. Yeah, I thought it was all like— but I'm just saying, that's when, when they view you a certain way, it's not about your talent no more. You're looked at through a certain lens, and that's where they hold you. I agree with that. I think a lot of it is he was a kid artist, a very tiny artist, like, I mean, small age and physically.

And even when he grew up, he became Mr. 106 Park. So he was still— even as an adult, he was still doing like shit that was targeted toward a young demo. I don't think people— even now when you look at him, his physical frame and stature, right, isn't really one, no disrespect, don't give grown-ass man. Yeah, don't give grown man. So from his acting— no, listen, from his acting thing, like, it would be hard for them to really cast him as an adult grown— you can't really see Bow Wow's suit, briefcase, and all that other shit as an actor.

Look at Mr. Man going to work. Yeah, he, he almost looks like a kid still. Like, you can see him in a college role today and, and, and it would fit if you didn't know it was him. I agree with all of y'all. I agree with Ice too, but I agree with you.

I don't think that's the number one, like the number one thing is not corny for Bow Wow. It might be the age. Like when you think of Nick Cannon, the first thing that they say is this nigga just corny. I disagree with that too. I disagree with that too.

But again, even with the Nick Cannon example, no matter what Nick Cannon has done afterwards, guess what? It goes back to the corny. Yo, we not past that era, yo. Why we can't embrace our corny? But what makes niggas— I ain't the coolest nigga out, but I love myself.

You know, I tell y'all that shit every day. My self-esteem is high, my confidence is high. Can't do corny shit every now and again. Now that bad washing the plane, that was a lot, but I mean, it was still funny. If you're going to be, if you're going to be corny, and he owned it.

Do you trying to say all child actors? Cuz, cuz Nick Cannon— I'm saying all— was he on the, wasn't he on the show before when he was younger? Nick Cannon, he was on a bunch of shit. Yeah, he was. So he's labeled corny?

A lot of child stars have a difficult— you really want the truth? But there was— no, who's the guy that we had up here? They don't look at him corny. Thomas. Yeah, don't look at Leon Thomas, Corny.

He wasn't as big, but he popped. People don't think of him as an adult, that's why. Like, God, that was a huge— a lot of them, it's hip-hop too. Okay, like in hip-hop, we look at our rappers like they have a, a edge to them. So if you're not an edgy rapper, a lot of times you get typecast.

Put mad people on and all that shit, dude. Sold out shows and all and they still labeling as that. A thousand baby mothers, you know, some— that's something that some of these niggas look up to. Yeah, you know how tough it is to be universally cool? Nah, you know what really what it is, yo, real talk, is because Bow Wow, Nick Cannon, any of them types never ran around here trying to act tough.

Yeah, that's it. When you not acting street or tough, the street and tough niggas make you corny. I'm not negating that. You're right, it is hard. Also, it's tough to be universally— it's a small sector sector of people that across the board is universally cool.

Yeah, that's not— Nas and Jay-Z might be too. Nas is up there. That's a huge misconception that everybody is cool. Most people are corny. No, no, so you, you, you— there's a middle area though.

It's not cool or corny. Yeah, like there's people that's just not cool, but they not corny. He's right. Ah, Ice is right. That's what I'm saying.

I'm talking about the way hip-hop looks niggas, if you are not street, tough, gangster, all of that shit, you are corny. I'm saying hip-hop is wrong. No, we— I, I get, but you're saying universally cool. You can be fine and exist without being cool. Yeah, it's a few.

It's as long as you're not corny. There's a third lane that you've been left out. That's what Gangsta Road— who? Kendrick. When he first came out, he wasn't gangster, and he's cool.

Kendrick also rapped about a lot of seeing a lot of that shit though. He rapped even though he didn't partake, he rapped about witnessing a lot of that shit. So it still resonated with a lot of people. Yeah, same with Nas. It still resonated more the hood side.

Common is one. Common is probably one of the few that don't get stamped corny, but he ain't the most street dude. Who's talking to the deaf girl in the window? Common. Oh, come on, he biased.

He banged the girl through the window. Oh shit, she can't even hear you, nigga. And you got that? Look at me as a kid, nigga, had a chicken nugget on the postcard. Nigga, he back.

No, Common is one. I never think they call Common corny. Yeah, no, he's one of the few. And nigga, somehow I'm listening to y'all, I still think I'm trying to say something different. They call Common corny?

Yes. I get what you trying to say. I've never heard that. It's extremely hard just in the world to be unique. Yeah, well, we talking about— Common is great, and if we just having a talk, then cool, he's cool.

But the word cool, nah, Common, sorry, buddy. It's a small group of people. Who would you say? Do you know how much it take to be like cool? Well, for me, for me, nigga, you gotta walk to the fridge, get your water cool, slam it with your back, bang, want some, just splash it.

How you walk in is cool. How you pay a check is cool. For the waiter is cool. Is every single— like, damn, that nigga is not gonna miss a beat in nothing. Everything they do is just— that's not true.

That's not true. Who would you say is cool? That's not true. That's his definition. Oh, well, yeah, yeah, your definition.

Because there are niggas that are still looked at as kind of like universally cool that has some moments that wasn't— you mentioned, you said Jay-Z and Nas. Jay-Z's had some moments where he did not look cool. All that athletic shit, he did not look cool. The, the, uh, and niggas laughed at him for it. But his whole— that's kind of— that was like out of context, behind the scenes.

It wasn't like he came out in the world. That's privacy. You gotta do everything cool. You gotta dive into the water, cool. You gotta ride the jet ski, somehow y'all changing what I'm saying again.

Let's stick to that. That example. No, but I just want to make sure I'm universally cool. Jay-Z ain't in the— he's cool, we do anything cool. I don't put him in either.

They said Jay-Z, that's what I said at the same time. And Nas to me is actually probably, as we thought about it more, probably the one who's like, to me, top. I ain't seen— you know what's cool? Like, we talking about cool, and again, y'all can give your own examples, please don't attack me. What's Park's arch nemesis?

Jeff Goldblum. Jeff Goldblum. Cool. Okay, he's cool. I don't fuck with Jeff Goldblum.

Every single thing he do is cool. Idris Elba, every single thing you've ever seen, anything he's saying, he could be trying to play a goofy. Okay, it don't work. Actors got it lucky. Yeah, because they don't have to go out and perform.

You gotta go to the dude, bro. Don't do that. Go to a musician. AZ's cool for sure. That's cool.

And off camera, he's cool. Jada is cool. That's another— Jadakiss is cool. Yes. Okay, can you give one, uh, in rap?

Yeah, like, who do you think of when you think of— hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm. Let me think, let me think, let me think. Ghostface. Because it's some that I thought was corny, but I mean, I mean, that the world might think is corny, I don't think they corny at all. Like, I, I'm a fan of a bunch of— I'm a fan of Mos Def.

I think Mos Def is amazing. I think most is always cool. Yeah, like, you know, like, everybody Everybody won't say Mos Def is cool, because I think, I think Mos Def is cool. Bleek is cool. Yes, that's another good one.

Memphis Bleek, that's a good one. Not the biggest name, maybe not the biggest catalog. Yes, but anytime you see him well dressed, whatever he's talking about, even if he's trying to tell a bad story, he can't— he's cool, he's cool, he's cool. But whatever, I don't want cool y'all today. Oh, can I talk about something uncool?

Please. Yeah, like nobody else. Fuck you, Mark. I'm trying to say better than anybody on the planet. Go ahead.

The bikers, the cyclists. Bicyclists. What do you call them? Bicyclists. The bicyclists.

Because when you say bikers, you could be talking about— yeah, cyclists. Cyclists, sure. Yeah. Are they both right? I think so.

Bicyclists and cyclists. Yeah. The niggas in New Jersey on Sunday who wait wake up bright and early in the morning, call it, and get their group chat together and ride a bicycle. Ride a bicycle down major New Jersey streets, avenues, roads, and highways. As a gang, as a conglomerate.

Hey, hey, other, other hoods out there listening, I don't know if y'all are going through this. Maybe it's a Garden State thing, but this wellness tip, this health and wellness tip that everybody's on, and over here been happening for a while. No, no, no, actually over here that's— that was happening before the health and wellness shit really took over. Yeah, nigga, cuz everybody can't afford $12,000 bikes. Them bikes ain't cheap.

They not. Ebro and them, MV Jonathan, Imani Toomer, all them niggas got they $8,000 and $9,000 bikes. But you had the fucking Uzi names. No, that's— drop the whole— cuz it's a Black— it's a Black bike riding club around here. In this neighborhood, and they didn't invite you?

I'm not a cyclist. But you don't even drive. You think you're gonna ride a bike? No, but I thought it was a crew of people trying to get into it. Can you ride a bike?

No, all jokes aside, it really is. Yeah, I could ride a bike. When was the last time you rode a bike? Like a bicycle? Yeah, yeah, nigga.

Not in the gym. 5 years ago. Oh, okay. Oh, that's not— that's better than I thought. Not an electric one.

And boy was I mad. Why? It was a standard bike. Regular bike. Fucking mom got this stupid old ass used bike.

I don't know where she got this fucking bike from. You remember that bike downstairs? I go down there, I try to be healthy, I fucking take the bike. The bike got some gear shit that I can't work. Oh, I think that's when we first got on the pod.

Did you wear a helmet or stuck or whatever? Yeah, so I start riding the bike down and I go, I go a little bit because whatever gear was on, I could just cook it. And by the time I got to Sabor or 2 miles down, it was on a different gear here and I couldn't turn it back. So you had to use it. It was tough.

You need an $8,000 bike. I'm never doing this shit again. Helmet on. But that shit is fire. But anyway, back to these bike riding niggas.

I want to talk to y'all about the, the cyclist blinker, which is a nigga on a bicycle taking his hand and doing this in front of a moving vehicle. I think you're supposed to respected. No, nigga, you had— you ever took driver's ed? But they teach you that in driver's ed. Yes, they do.

They took you that? Yeah, they did. One of this, this, this, and this. Wait, when do you take driver's ed? School.

That's all right. 11Th grade. English. They teach you that when you go to— is lame. That's what y'all was doing?

Corny, right? Corny. Yes, that's corny. Should have been out robbing niggas and breaking the houses. Learn how to drive in driver's ed.

You corny. Okay, see, and they see— and that's what I mean about niggas. Is it cool? And that shit is absolutely— there's nothing cool about learning how to drive from driver's ed. Okay, nothing about it.

You're not learning how to drive, you're learning the law. The law, nigga. No, you're learning to get a discount on your insurance. Yes, they don't teach you how to drive unless you went to one of them schools that had a car. But nigga, in the hood, we ain't have to teach you the rules.

Philly, we ain't had driver's ed. You go to driver's ed, they didn't tell you the The laws. No, but no, it was easy to leave school. I wish they would— I had to bounce out of here. How you got your license?

Boone's Farm was out, huh? How you got your license? I was driving without my license. Like, all the real that I know, all of the real that I know in my life. Sorry, end up getting it.

I went up there, I stole Dub B's car, drove to see some work in a storm, felt like I had it under control, and went up and got my shit. What are you talking about? Like a real nigga would. You know, there's a process. You can't just walk up there and say, yo, I want my license today.

I got a car from my mail. The fuck you talking about? Get a license. This nigga ain't got a license now. That's the truth.

Ask him to see it. Joe, let me see your license.

He does have a license. No, he don't, nigga. Oh, y'all real slow. It was a Slow. It was— take a test and a license first to get your permit.

Stupid to think that this man don't got a license. He didn't have a license for a long time, in fairness. Hey, y'all don't try to act new. I don't like this new you. It's not new.

It's been about 16 years now. No, you didn't have— you did not have a fucking license for 16 years. Who you talking to? 10 years. I don't think it's been 10.

It might been— it said license since 2023. You were on this pod talking about going to the class. It literally says that since 2023 on like— No, actually I'm lying. How old is Lex? 8 years.

I had Lex for 8 years. My man Lex, this nigga be in here acting like nigga. This guy is crazy, son. You had to take the 5-hour class. I told— I went to take the permit test.

Oh, when it was time to get the light. I told that story on here. Yeah, yeah, I told that story. I almost killed one of them little white boys. You passed the permit test?

Wait, you was 38 taking a permit test? Yo, you passed the permit test for us to go You have to take— you have to retake the permit test. Yes. If you're licensed for more than 10 years, you got to retake the permit. You start from scratch.

So I went up there, no studying. I know how to stay. I'm just shaking. I know how to drive. I did it before.

But doing it when you're 16 or 17 is way different than doing it. How many feet from the hydrant? Answer the question. What? Did you pass the written test on your first go?

No, I failed. Because you didn't know this. But fuck Driver's Ed though, you know what I'm saying? Because you didn't know know this. 50-Some questions.

Whoa, whoa, stop the presses! It's a million questions in that shit. No, it was a million questions. But anyway, when I went back, real nigga rules, man. You got somebody take it for you?

Paid. Hey, come on, man. He paid? Yeah, he paid. What he didn't do is take it himself.

I went back. I did take it myself, but I had to supervise it there. Oh, got you. To walk bye. She saved my— she saved the day, boy.

She, huh? She did. Yeah, she saved the fucking day. Saved her day. I don't like when you got to go do something and somebody there like, doing their job, all the best.

Like, she— nigga, come on, get money. That's when you hope somebody recognize you just to get the hook up. Yeah. Anyway, so yes, I do have a license. And congrats.

Fuck them cyclists. Y'all going to get hit. Y'all going to get hit playing around putting your arm out in front of somebody like me. Y'all lucky I ain't driving. They want you to wait for them.

Like, if the signal say turn, they want you to wait for them to pass. No, nigga, it says turn. You wait. You slow the fuck down. They have a nerve.

They have the nerve to have an attitude. I'll fucking open the door on one of you niggas. I swear to God, I'll open the door on one of them niggas. I had an attitude when the bike cyclist dude going to cut off my car. We in an Escalade.

He slam on the brakes. My driver, oh my God, we almost— wait, what are you doing? What you doing? Hit the gas! We're faster than the car, we're strong.

I mean, we're faster than bike dude, we're stronger than bike dude, we can fuck bike dude up. Fuck them bikes. Wait, hold on. I mean, if we in a car, they fight. I'm saying them niggas, they be waiting for a moment.

Yeah, them niggas is a gang. Yeah, yeah, for sure. The other bicyclists would jump you with them. And I hate to tell you, a lot of niggas from street. That reform niggas, it ain't like back in the day.

Not in Manhattan. I wasn't in Newark. Billy and them niggas, nigga, around here a lot of niggas are street niggas. He's not wrong. Does my license plate know that?

Easy. Does my license plate know that? Your nose might know that when you get out after you— Why would I be getting out? Why would I be getting out? You ain't going to pull over?

No, bitch. What is he talking about, am I going to pull over? You got No, nigga, you got it. Uh, what else is going on? What else is going on?

What else is going on? Can we talk about Amber Rose? Oh, what she did? Fine as shit. Not anymore.

Not to me. Can your behavior change your looks? Yes. Yeah, see, y'all niggas look for the wrong things in women these days. Not— I'm with you, Parks.

You never had a a woman, like, they don't change your looks for me. They just make change how— yeah, how I look, how I deal. It still don't make— it don't— it don't make you ugly. Yeah, it can. It can.

It make you not— not as attractive. You might not be ugly, but I'm not as attracted to you as I once was. Some people could be downright ugly. I'm not saying her, but it can be something. Neil Long could walk in here with a MAGA hat, a pitchfork.

Did you see her though? Yeah, I did. She looks amazing. Can we pay some respect to her? Yeah, we need like a Neil Long appreciation for Hey, give me some fine chocolate that just never— she's like, she is good.

Oh yeah, Kelly Rowland. Shout out to y'all. Yo, yeah, shout out. Yeah, that Golden Graham. Oh, is you into that?

You back into— you back into— back into blacks? I never not been into black. We ain't playing the goofy jokes. I've never not been in the blocks. Follow me.

But they look amazing. Cali rolling, it's beautiful, like spring. All right, you horny guys, you gotta be horny, nigga. And I never tell my kids they have to work 10 times harder because they're Black. Yeah, you have to work just as hard as everyone else.

And if you want to be, um, if you want to be better, you know, like let's say the NBA for an example, if you want to be like a real all-star, yeah, you got to work harder. Yeah, but you have to work just as hard as everybody else. Your skin color in America America is not LeBron James.

What the fuck? This is your pot of the month, yo. So hold on, wait, wait, real quick. No, she said some more. Oh, okay.

She said some more. You think that's wrong for her to teach her children that? She's saying that I think you should just work as hard as everyone else. That's what she's saying. So the second part of what she said, I agree with, and I've said up here.

That first part, she sounds crazy. You shouldn't work harder because you're Black? She's saying that she's not going to tell her kids you have to work harder than everybody else just because you're Black, and she's kind of wrong in that. You think even today?

Today, I think today in today's society you still think that? I just want to make sure, like, I think that there's an— I don't agree with you. I think that there's an uneven playing field for us, and I think that her second part is the part that I agree with her on. You can still be great and be Black. I'm not going to ever tell my kids that you can't accomplish whatever you want to accomplish as a Black person in America.

But the— he cut it off. But the first part of that, she's wrong. And I think she might be wrong because she never experienced it. If you never experienced it— and I don't know what her walk of life is, I do know that she was pretty all her life and she started dating very rich men early on in in life. And so because she did date rich men that were multi-millionaires early on in life, she might have never had to face some of the adversity that a lot of people have to, especially in a corporate setting.

You understand what I'm saying? So a lot of Black women in Corporate America are having to bust their ass 10 times more than their counterparts. So she can't make that claim because she's never had to experience that. I'm always— Oh, I thought you were saying you disagreed, nigga. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

Yeah, that That's right. Yeah, no, go ahead. I was trying to pull up a quote, but go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I'm saying that I feel like I didn't look at it that deep, right? Surface level.

So that's where I can go wrong at. But I'm saying I don't think there's an issue of somebody teaching their children to not put up a color barrier. That's— I agree with that. Like, you'll go out there, bust your ass just like everybody else, and you can get whatever you work hard for. Let me— that's how I took— she said that they don't have to work harder than their white counterparts is what she initially— she is a lot— she is teaching her kids that they're Black.

Black, right? Because some people be like, I'm not teaching you not to see no color and all of that stuff. And that's how I took some of that. And that I think is wrong. You have— because there's systems out there.

Either you teach your kids the Black— that they're Black, or the world is going to teach your kids that they're Black. They gotta know. I was looking at it just like, yo, there's no color barrier. That's how I looked at it. That's how I thought she was teaching her kids.

But there's a difference between saying there's no— there's, there's like, there is a color barrier, you can get past it. There's— there is no color barrier, and then there's like, I don't see color. Okay, like your kid— yeah, I don't see color thing. And everybody, everybody seem to be responding to her as if she said all three of them things alternately, you know what I'm saying? So I was trying— that's why I was trying to get a sense of what she was actually saying.

Cut the clip. I said the end part is the part that I think is— what was the end part? The end part was basically her saying that she's not gonna tell her kids, even though they Black that they can't be great and that all of the things are not afforded to them in the world, kind of is what she said. And that's dangerously close to saying race don't matter. No, it's not.

I, I think it's close to it. I disagree. I think that, I think that as Black people— and we've— me and Joe have had this fight, me and Cory have had this fight— I don't think that you should tell your kids that they can't be great. You can be great. Now, the hurdles that you might have to jump may have— we never had that fight.

No, listen to what I'm The hurdles that you might have to jump will have to be higher. I think when we start telling people that the system set in place are preventative from them being great, I think that's a dangerous message. I think that's a dangerous message to send to your children. I'm not— I agree with you. I'm saying though, if she's saying that, if she's saying that you don't have to run faster or jump higher, she's wrong.

And I'm saying that's the part that's dangerously close. Yeah, but that's dangerous. Close. Saying race don't matter, right? And I think, again, there's a lot of privilege involved in that.

The fact that she's racially ambiguous, uh, and probably hasn't been Black her whole life, hasn't identified Black. She don't really identify as Black now, right? Well, this is what Jocelyn smacked the shit out of her over on College Hill. And, you know, we— a lot of us was riding with Amber because, you know, the homie. I like Amber.

I know Amber. I like Amber. Yeah, my problem My problem with some of this is, hey, everybody raise their kids how they want. I'm not sticking my nose in nobody household.

What you put in the oven is what you end up getting out the oven. That's totally on you. My problem with this is I only know Amber Rose from Black spaces. See, I don't mind nobody being MAGA. I don't mind nobody with their own views.

But why y'all don't never say it sooner? We know Amber from Philadelphia. We know Amber from Kanye West. We know Amber from music videos. We know Amber from Wiz.

Yeah, it ain't no white around. So cool, now you mag it out, and now, yeah, you on your whole— I got it. But why not say it sooner? But that— but she would say— but look, I'm sorry, she has said that she's seen the light, that she, that she was a liberal, that she saw the world a certain way. She was doing slut walks, all that stuff, you know.

And now she said at some point she saw the light, and now she sees the world very differently. She had a political conversion. And I would say, when I hear that, pretty convenient. When I hear that, it's kind of my same take about billionaires not being for us. I think once you start playing around in certain rooms and getting around certain people, your ideologies change and you start to adapt that.

Yeah. So you could call it seeing the light. I call it you're playing over there in another sandbox and now you're drinking that Kool-Aid. But my question is, why are you in that sandbox? So that I could get that Kool-Aid, right?

That's my goal. I want to get over there. Yeah. So what do you say to the people that don't want their children going into society or different places and having this grudge against other ethnicities, right? So if you instill that— because I've watched that coming up— if you instill that in your head, like, yo, if you instill that in their head, watch this, watch that, opportunities aren't fair, sometimes you go into an environment with this grudge already.

And sometimes that can hinder you in certain situations. So, so what, what would be the middle for you, Mark? What prep you you. Say it again. Or prep you.

Mhm. Yeah, it's all about how you, how you raise the kids. I, you know, sometimes when I give talks to, to young Black men, I say there is a conspiracy against you. The world doesn't see you as, as smart, as talented, as moral, as healthy, as principled, you know, as capable, as deserving. Um, there's conspiracy to lock you up, there's conspiracy to put you on drugs, there's conspiracy to kick you out of school.

I said the question is, are you going to be part of the conspiracy by doing these things, right? So I begin with the structural part, and then I say, yeah, but you're not going to school, you helping the conspiracy. You get what I'm saying? You dropping out, you, you not taking care of your children, you're doing these things, things that lots of people do. I'm not pathologizing Black people, I'm just saying there's an opportunity here for us to see the game and then make a different choice.

I think if you raise your kids like that, they don't grow up hating other people, they grow up saying there's something out here and I do have to run faster and I do have to jump That's the read. That's the read. That's the read. I'm sorry. No, no, no.

That's what I was gonna say. Even if we strip all the racial aspect away from this and distribute down to bare bones, why would you tell your kid that they gotta work just as hard as everybody else? Right? Just— I don't even understand that. Right.

You're pushing mediocrity to your kids. Yep. I just don't get it. I just don't— I agree. Say it again.

Why would you want to teach your kid to work as hard as everyone else. Okay, well, that's a whole nother conversation. Working people just— that's how you're outworking people in your attempt to be great, in your attempt to separate yourself from the pack, in your attempt to, to, to ascend past the rest of the field. Like, why? That's that participation trophy argument.

It's funny that she can only understand that when it comes to being an athletic all-star. I don't want to disrespect the lady. Yep, that's what— that's when— that's pretty interesting. That's when it was identifiable to her, which again, I don't know the lady and I don't want to be disrespectful to her, but that's where you see people working harder. Because she may have never been in a corporate setting, she may have never been in a business setting where you've seen people busting their ass working 16-hour days, 12 or 14-hour days.

She might have never seen that. So the only time it was relatable to her was when I might have been dating an athlete and I saw the extra work that they put in when they doing 2 and 3 a days and all that other shit. So then it became identifiable. It's people that work extra hard in corporate, it's people that work extra hard in school, it's people that school didn't come easy for them, they did the tutors and they did all of the extra shit where they had to work harder. You understand what I'm saying?

So people that came from impoverished neighborhoods where they had to work harder. And, and even in the sports context, she should get that. I mean, because she said she got it in sports. Well, she said in sports you have to work work hard. No, she said if you want to be an all-star, you gotta— then you have to work harder, right?

To be better than average. But to get average, you have to work as hard as everybody else. And it's like, even in sports, if I come out of a D1 program and I come out of a D3 program, I don't have to work just as hard. I got to work harder. Sure.

You know, if I'm undrafted, if I'm 5'10 trying to play in the NBA— true— where there's like one person who's below 6 feet tall, like, you got to go harder. And structurally, that's what we're positioned. How can we accuse— blame her? You can only teach what you know. Yo, are you down with this lady?

No, I'm not. Why do you keep— no, like, what'd you think? That's a good thing. You can only teach what you know on it then. Yeah, you can't see that.

This is what she knows, nigga. But it's not over there cosigning all that shit that she was doing when she was out there looking like a fucking goof. Y'all was good at saying— I love sluts. I'm not saying to slut walk. I'm not shaming the slut walk.

I'm just saying that certain things everything that she was doing, we was cosigning. Oh, you look good. Oh damn. And all that shit. I'm saying that you can only teach what you know.

Yeah, but Flip, I don't— nothing— I don't want to give her— what do we expect from somebody that has tunnel vision, that looks at something because she went one way? She grew up in South Philly, in the hood hood, with it, where there was like— I literally worked at the high school she went to, right? Some people want to get away from that, Mark. No, no, but that you can still have knowledge of that. Please, listen, let me finish.

Just listen to what I'm saying. I'm saying she grew up in, in the, in the heart of South— she grew up in the same hood that Beanie Siegel grew up in. Okay, there's no way she didn't look around at that reality and see what niggas got to do to be successful. If she grew up in the suburbs, I would say sure. If she grew up in, in across, in Middle America, in the flyover state, maybe.

But she grew up in the same place where everybody she grew up with goes to jail. Everybody she goes up, gets shot. Everybody she grows up, get— doesn't get good jobs. And there's no way to— there's no way that she looked at all that and said, every single person I'm surrounded to isn't successful, just just because they didn't work hard. You know what I'm saying?

Like, she seemed too much— she's too smart to be that dumb. That's what I'm saying. And that's why I read it cynically. You know what I'm saying? And I'm saying that to mean— to be clear, audience, I'm saying she's not dumb.

I'm saying she's being obtuse. Yes. And she's acting— and because now it's good for business. And that's the cynical part. I don't necessarily know that.

It could be purposeful. I don't know her, right? It could be purposeful, but it could just be she was a pretty ass woman her entire life. She got into certain things early on in life, and she has not had to face some of those adversities. When she's on the set of those music videos, she ain't notice ain't no dark-skinned people.

They— she ain't notice that there was no non-racially ambiguous people on this. I mean, just the world she's into, you know what I mean? When she's hosting a VH1, you ain't know 2 other black people here in the whole room, and none in the corporate office, all of them white. I mean, you think that's just a coincidence? Like, even in the places she's in, the evidence is there if you want to see it.

And because she has— because she's had a different political position before where she's almost articulated this stuff, it's hard for me to believe that she unremembers those things. Y'all think Trump beat?

Enough of this. Which one? Yeah, say get to it. Yeah, do y'all think that Trump beat Amber? No, it was Trump.

Oh shit, I'm gonna say no. Main Trump. I'm playing a different— I'm playing a different game up here. Big Don. Yeah, y'all just came home doing like 40.

Y'all say anything? It ain't— they can't sue you for asking a question. I don't know. Did Donald Trump smash? That was my question.

It's not a wild— I think the answer is no, but I don't think it's a wild question. I don't think so. Yeah, probably not. You're right. Yeah, I don't know where the sudden change in thinking and crowd could be from.

It's probably just the money, right? It does, it does work. It's a motivator. It'll do it. A motivator to Listen, man.

All right, back to Jussie Smollett. Jussie Smollett made an appearance recently, uh, in celebration of Gay Pride Month, uh, and he performed, and the internet had a blast with it. I'm not sure why, but I have Mark here to let me know. Hey, this is the music he played when he bust out. Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Got a red belt on, white tank top, logos. Hey, wait a minute, wait Wait a minute. Little gold chain, little black slay. Got the gay back up there. Oh, whoa, whoa.

Oh, between that and the Bankhead bounce, I was, I was in.

Wait, this is my part right here. Hey, hey, little Tony, Tony, Tony, little feels good.

Hey.

Go Jesse, go Jesse, go Jesse. Hey, I'mma send it. Go Jesse, go Jesse. Hey, wait. Oh, I thought he was giving a speech at the end.

Why my clips keep cutting off? At the end he was like, thank you guys for supporting me through my— whatever the fuck he said. He said, I feel, um— he gave a really powerful ending to it. Yeah, I'm not hurting anymore. Yeah, that's what he said.

I'm not hurting anymore. And I really made me feel good. I was, um, well, I'm a huge fan of the Smollett family now. Me too. I love Journey.

It's changed my commentary. I love Journey. That Journey, it changed your journey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've changed my commentary.

It's just so horny. Uh, I've changed my commentary on this. So I'm happy to see that Jussie Smollett is doing well. He's not hurt anymore. I was worried about him for a minute.

He stayed away from all Subways.

Subway, the sandwich. I know what you mean. I was worried about— I bumped into him maybe like a couple weeks ago. Oh wait, you're a friend? He's a friend of yours?

We're cool. Yeah, Martin is his man. He's one of the shadiest people I know. You definitely said he's the shadiest person I know. I think he is.

I like Jesse, you know, I supported him, I respect— I stood with him, um, when I thought the police were overreaching teaching. Um, a lot of people out here to lock up, but he wouldn't be at the top of my list. No, some— sometimes the way they come up with the list is really unfair. Yeah, but they execute the fuckers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When I looked at him, he looked— he looked sad actually last time, some about a month ago, and, uh, I was worried about him. So when I heard him say he's not hurting anymore, I felt— I felt a lot of relief. Um, did you tell him how— where you— jokes is right him. So they all right there. What's the joke?

The relief. But it's fine. Oh, what'd you say? What'd you say? The conversation went well.

We talked really fast. It was my wife's birthday. We were walking out of the restaurant. Faster than you normally talk? Yeah, because he came up behind us.

Okay, nigga even stutter fast. And okay, no, and he was just like, hello, Mark. And I turned around, he had like a dark hoodie on. It took me second. Um, and I was like, does he watch the show?

Did I say something I forgot about? But then he gave me a big hug and we talked. It was, it was love, man. He just, he just seemed sad. I remember thinking like, hand placement on a hug.

He hugged you from the back. He walked up behind you, was rubbing Mark ass.

And I'm like, not in front of my wife. Mark had the spandex grades looking like they painted on. He said, did you try this ribeye?

Y'all niggas is— y'all are immature. Not true. No, no, no, it was in all seriousness, you immature monsters. Um, it was good to see him. It was good energy.

He seemed— that's good. But he, but he just seemed— I remember walking away thinking like, he's had such weight on his shoulders though last few— you thought that walking out of the restaurant? Got it. Yeah, I was leaving the restaurant, dinner was over. Um, um, and I remember thinking like, he's had such weight on the shows last few years, I hope he's taking care of himself, I hope he's healing, I hope he's doing well.

So when I saw the performance and he said, I'm not hurting anymore, I was like, that's dope, that's dope. I'm glad to see him in, in a good place. I'm glad to see him having fun, you know. I've gone to see a couple of his shows and, uh, you go to a lot of shows. Mark, you a fucking double— Mark is a double agent and I'm going to put an end to that.

Mark, because an arm at the Mini Rivers Festival. Fuck the Mini Rivers Festival. Shit up and we be— he bring it up like he down with us and we going to clown him. We was clowning for 45 minutes and then Mark get on air and be a double agent. I did not clown Jussie Smollett off air.

What did I say? You know what, you have full range, say whatever I said then. If I clown him, what did I say? Hand to God, whatever I said, you you could say?

I wasn't here. Because it didn't happen. He just be making shit up. He clowned him, but in the political way. No, you can't really, because he did it with his facial expressions and shit.

You want to talk about Justin? That's just my face. Stupid shit. I will say the note threw me off. That note he sang threw me off a little bit.

Jussie, check back. We glad you not hurt no more, but that don't make for the greatest pod banner. Check back in when you come up with another state scheme. Scheming when you come up with another vicious plot. I'll rob for my niggas though, to fucking rob the taxpayers of their hard-earned money.

Oh Lord. Hey, what precinct we taking? Taxpayers. Hey, let's take it to another precinct. Let's get them niggas to work.

Yo, I will never understand the— that's one of the dumbest lies ever told. This is what gets me though about people. Whatever you think about Justice Smollett, innocent, guilty, Whatever. Um, telling the truth, lying, whatever y'all think. Lying.

Lying. Lying. It wasn't a question. Oh, that was a pull. My bad.

No. Um, people seem to have a special, like, animus for him that I think just— it'd be OD. Like, of all the people we could go after, I just— to me, it's just not worth the energy and time, you know what I mean? Do I believe him? No.

Do I think that happened? But, like, This niggas lie every day. Like, that ain't the one that I find out later I still be chasing down. I was a big— it's what happened because of his lie that pissed— I'mma speak for myself— that pissed me off, cuz straight Black men became under attack because of this nigga's lie, and nobody walked it back. Nobody.

It was— wasn't— there was— fam, I could go pull the article up right now. I'll show you the vibe article that was written, and it was a lot of people sent echoing this sentiment, your homegirl being one of them. That what, the straight Batman? That because we didn't speak up for him, we didn't stand by him when we didn't believe him. My, my read, first of all, to me the whole controversy lasted like 7 years.

It don't matter. No, it does. It's the fact— all right, are you lying now? That's not true. No, it did.

No, no, that's what I'm saying. Before you say it's not true, listen to what I'm saying. I'm I'm saying, I don't think there was a long protracted period of time where the bulk of Black people were in— I didn't say bulk of Black people. I said, okay, go ahead, go ahead. Well, I think the bulk of Black people were protecting him, defending him, and believing him.

I think almost from the beginning, niggas was like, I don't believe this. That's not how it went. I was there. I read it differently. Niggas thought that he got abducted and some— by MAGA.

Yes. So why would straight Black men be under attack from that. That's the problem, because niggas were not necessarily coming out. Niggas wasn't vocal enough defending him. Defending, yes, riding for him, standing up for him.

That's how you experience too, that people going up to straight Black men for the Jussie Smollett thing. Well, there were actual articles written. I'm not— I don't have the take that Ice has, but Ice is not incorrect in what he's saying. No, no, I'm not saying articles, but I'm, I'm saying to you it was longer than 72 hours. Definitely.

We were talking about two different things. I was saying— I thought you— I misunderstood what you were saying. I was saying like It was— I thought you were saying something different. I was talking about people not believing him. No, I don't think people in general, once they got the facts of the case from the beginning, people were skeptical.

So I don't think there was this long attack on black men. But even to the extent that there were people saying you should stand with him, I didn't think that was exclusive to black people. To me, I thought they were saying— Mark, it wasn't many people skeptical like you. You— I think that's where you misremember it. I actually was probably the first person.

Yeah, very first. You stood out.

Jussie Smollett's attack and the dangers of straight Black men's silence. Again, that's been a thing. I'm not disputing that people said— I don't call that an attack on straight Black men. I'm not saying that. No, again, I'm not disputing the articles were written about it and people saying we should stand up.

There were people saying that everybody said it. They were saying that white liberals just stand up. They were saying lots of people should stand up. But to me, the period where people believed him was so short, and that's what you say I'm misremembering. Maybe I am.

I don't, I don't think so. How long Who was it? Joe was a dick for coming out saying that he lying. Again, he was the first one. Joe came out and said he was lying and got vilified for it.

Okay, so you said it was a week or two? Yeah, about that. It was, it was longer than that, man. It was a lot longer. All right, fans out there, let me know because I don't remember being that long.

I, I feel like people almost instantly didn't believe— No, that's not true at all. It was so long that I was able to revisit it on State of the Culture, like, as facts kept coming out. I was like, when niggas started getting the, uh, the videos of the niggas going to buy the shit from the hardware store and all of that, that's when the facts started. How long after that was it? I mean, I don't know.

Again, I don't have a timeline. It was years ago, but I know that's when niggas started second-guessing it. Like, oh, it was a while. It was a story. Some bullshit.

Yeah, no, I know it was a story for a while. I just felt like people weren't believing it. That's all I'm saying. It felt like it's a fact. The more the facts came out, people weren't believing it.

No. Okay, not at all. Right. At all, because that was peak, like, uh, believe victims regardless of anything. That was like, don't question that.

It was a racially— that too— contentious time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just looking at the timeline. He got attacked on January 29th, and the first— and those Africans got arrested on February 14th. So it's like 2 weeks, fam.

We talk— yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I'm just saying, so I just want to establish time for fans because I didn't remember. I was just trying to make sure I understood it. I hear your point. I'm not disputing your point.

I, I hear you. I received— 2 weeks is a very long time in social media and just media in general world. But the point was, the point was why, why straight Black men became under attack because of this is because he was a gay Black man. And what they were saying, a lot of people were saying, was straight Black men are being quiet on it because it's— there's some homophobia involved in that. Whereas had that been a straight man, and we seen this, people would have been standing up ready to call up their arms and, and, and get ready to protest.

Not protest, but you get what I'm saying. Yeah, they would have been riding more for him. But because it was— it's like, it's the homophobic aspect, is let him go. I feel you. I feel you.

He ruined elaborate lies. Elaborate lies used to be so fire.

No, that was an elaborate— that was elaborate. That was definitely elaborate lie. Are you crazy? Elaborate lie is one that's hard to figure out. No, no, no, you just had a lot of pieces to it.

It's extravagant. That ain't— it's a loud lie. Hold up. But it's extravagant too. Here, people, nooses.

Yeah, multiple locations. You're in my country now. You got it. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot. It was a lot.

Elaborate lies used to get you out of some shit, boy. Now they still do. I wouldn't know. No, I don't mean like— I mean public figures, not us. I mean like politicians, all these people, they tell elaborate ones, you know what I mean?

That's, that's the theory, that if you tell a big extravagant lie, people will say, um, it's so big that he can't— no one will possibly make that up. They don't do that shit now. They don't give a fuck. You said politicians? Yeah, politicians do what they want to do.

That shit don't work with your girl. They be like, I stole it. And right, elaborate lies don't work with your lady. See, you can't tell them when you get caught. You got to tell one preemptively.

Nah, if you're a lady, if you've been with one for a long time, she knows. Because nothing about none of your other days was elaborate. Yeah, she knows. Mad details today. Yeah, it's tough, man.

It's a trick to it, yo. It's tough. And you— what you telling me? I'm gonna finally give details just so you know, communication, right? You fall for none of that.

Like, my flight got delayed back from the Caribbean. And the airport was packed, that kind of shit. Nah, nah, nah, nah, my wife don't fall for none of that shit. She'll check the fucking flights in the Caribbean. She'll check.

Do she do— do she really? No, but she will. Oh, my girl do. You— if I say a flight was delayed or canceled— shit. Yo, I dated a girl one time that did that.

Like, when I was like, yo, my train is late— my train really was late, I wasn't lying. I was sitting on the train texting her, and she was like, no, it's not. I checked the train time, something something something. And to me, that shit was so wild, I stopped fucking with her after that. No, I didn't.

I stopped fucking with her a month later, but that was the seed. Yeah, it was still fire. Fire. It definitely bought her another month, but I was— but I knew she wasn't the one after that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I told her I got locked up and she called the jail. She called the jail? Yes. Yeah, that's good. That one is actually a little more common than— that's not that bad.

Like, that's— no, that's bad still. That's concern. No, it's not. No, no, I'm supposed to make sure you're there. I'm on.

I'm in there, but she calling to make sure I'm in there. Yeah, I'm not calling to get you out, just wanna make sure you're there. Nah, I don't like that. Yeah, she's crazy. Yo, you was probably at the precinct, nigga.

She didn't have to press 9. I was at whatever jail, whatever, uh, that was on a hun— was that over there by his trees on the way? A nice little block. 130 first, whatever. Yeah, 131, 131, 131.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, all right, so— oh, can we real quick, since we speaking of jails— Mark, I hate all your topics today, so let me hear. Really? Yes. You like the BET Awards?

Wow, I thought you would have liked that. And long stop. That's— go ahead, I want to hear. No, no, no, you don't get it now. Speaking of jails— nope.

Mondami is allegedly closing Rikers. Okay, it started before, nigga. What, like de Blasio started closing Rikers? Yeah, they all started closing Rikers. Did it come to fruition?

Wait, is Mom Downey really closing Rikers? Supposedly.

Bitch, when you going to come here and walk something to Mom Downey's back? What did I have to walk back? Let's go. Mom Downey's fine. Yeah, what did— tell me, be specific, before we We get feed the fire.

What did I have to walk back? Um, sorry, when I said he wasn't gonna give free buses out to New York, I love you, bitch. I guess I'm not necessarily talking about the free buses. I'm more so specifically speaking about, uh, his tax plan, uh, with what he did with the, uh, people that make over $5 million owning multiple homes, blah, blah, whatever the conversation was before that. I think you were on the other side The thing I said about Mondame was he's not going to make buses free.

No, you said more than that. I did not. I said he's not going to make buses free. Y'all had a fight about the tax issue. And Mark asked me, do you know what his plan was to make the buses free?

And I said no. And I said it doesn't matter what his plan was because I know he can't physically accomplish that and lose the money that the MTA brings in on a yearly basis. I thought you said the same thing about the property tax. Property tax. Yeah, the property tax.

The taxes thing, it was something along the lines of they not paying paying taxes anyway because they know the tax laws and all that. So you could implement all this new tax shit, it's still gonna— but I'm not gonna put it on you if you say you didn't say that. What I'm saying is, I, I think if we want to talk about Mondami, I think that, uh, I think tax the rich or persecute the rich don't work. And I'm not rich, I just think it don't work. I think that socialism don't work.

I think that, you know, some of these things don't work. I think that the system is flawed. The system is really, really, really flawed. And I think you got to break it down and put it back together. But it's so hard to do with the amount of greed running around that no person could do it.

You think he's doing a good job so far? I haven't really dug into it because I don't live in New York, so I don't give a fuck. But, um, I think some of the things that he has implemented are good, and I think some of them aren't so good. Which ones you don't like so far? Um, I don't like the landlord freeze.

Um, oh, the rent freeze? Yeah, I don't like that. I think that if you're going to implement a rent freeze, then you also have to implement relief for landlords. So I think that if you're going to implement a rent freeze, then you also got to stop taxation on landlords, um, from the city, because you now— you expecting people to make less bread. I think that the expenses that come along with home ownership— insurance goes up every year, maintenance goes up every year, all of these things go up every year.

So if you're doing that shit to some people that aren't turning a huge profit, I think it's a misconception. We start talking about landlords landlords that we think all of them are rich. Yeah, some of y'all don't even get paid rent. Ice's grandparents are landlords. They're retired, so that money is what they use to live.

Yeah, so you essentially pulling income from these older people's pockets, and I think that that shouldn't just be a, a, a across-the-board thing. Yeah, I think it should be individualized or a case-by-case basis. You can't just swipe all landlords for potentially making money because, again, like, to Ice's grandparents, they use that money to survive. I think I agree, I agree with considering landlords. I, I think that a rent, a free, a 2-year rent freeze is a good policy, and I think the net gain of that is, is, is worth the policy.

But I do think you have to think about the income of the people who own. I don't think that's something that should be ignored. I think that that's a separate public policy that we should be thinking about. And he simultaneously said we going after all of the landlords that are not not doing the proper things accordingly with their properties. Yeah.

So now you making me— some don't— I'm not up to some of these niggas is horrible. Yeah. But some of these people are not horrible. So now you're gonna force me to do all of these repairs and all of these maintenance and at the same time freeze the amount of income that I'm taking. And I just think that that's unfair.

But how would that apply to the landlords that's not horrible? Because if I, if I own the building and I'm not horrible, then I'm up to code. So why would I care that he coming to make sure that we up to code? Because up to code, everything don't got to be egregious. Like, it could be little shit that— like, some of these inspectors and shits be sticklers.

So let's say I gotta fix something that might only be $1,500, right? Cool, I still have a $1,500 expense that I gotta incur, but now you freezing me making money. Every landlord don't make this overwhelming amount a lot of money. That's a misconception. It's like every landlord is rich, every landlord is a gazillionaire, and so it's fuck them, fuck them, fuck them, because they all out here getting our money.

Ah, that's the sentiment by the people, like they all billionaires and they all gazillionaires, and it's just not true. So I think it's a case-by-case basis that it should be conducted on. But case-by-case is tough, but I get what you mean. I know what you mean, especially in the city as populous as— and densely populated. Maybe they do New York, like if you own a certain number.

That's what I'm saying. I thought it was like for the buildings, and I thought it was like landlords who have like the large buildings and stuff like that. I didn't think it was like the landlord, like not saying you, but nigga that just bought a house and put niggas in there. I thought those niggas that own like got 50 floors, 30 floors in their building, boy. I'm in Jersey, but it— because I'm with you there.

I'm not really paying all that much attention over there, but I'm in New York a lot. It appears like arousing success. Yeah, it looks like he doing every single thing that he fucking said. It's probably my first time seeing that as a politician. Yeah, he's making— he opened the city-owned supermarkets, he pieced it up with the governor, uh, over there so they could get the right funding of like the rent freeze, like everything that he said.

He looked like he looked like— oh yeah, the daycare shit. Oh yeah, no, that was That was a big one. That was a big one. Yeah, that was a big one. And a championship in 53 years.

I mean, oh, knock it off, Marcus. No, but seriously, yo, what he did when he jumped in the pool the other day with the suit on— see, I think I had people— I think his charisma is amazing. I think that he's, um, he's an orator, and I think that his charisma is just something that you can't teach. Even I had multiple— I had multiple older people call me to say that that might have been the flyest shit they ever saw a mayor What? Jump in the pool with them kids with the suit on.

Oh, I see. I had a bunch of people say, nah, they can't fuck with him because of shit like that. But, and I think, but the difference between him— because I agree with people, how to get down with the people— it's the mix of charisma and policy at the same time. True. And he spoke to the needs of the people because some people change policy and it's not what everyday people want.

He changed policy in ways that are very populist. Um, he helped poor people, uh, and he's likable and he's fun. Like, that's that Knicks game speech. He young, he's young, he's young. That's very important.

Young, young, handsome. Like, there's just a lot visible, just visible. I think having younger politicians in general across the board in this country will do a lot of good. It will. It should be an age cap.

The same 60, 70, 80-year-old dudes don't got the best advice to nobody. And not to get too much into politics, just to tie it up, I mean, you saw last last week, all the candidates he endorsed won. Yeah, State House, also the congressional— they're giving him though. I mean, they were getting people out of there that you thought you couldn't get out of there because of their positions on, on Israel-Palestine. He still was able to nail that too.

So I mean, he's showing that the country might be moving in a different direction, at least for the midterm elections. He gives a lot of people hope that the country could be moving in a different— in a little different— at least I'm just talking about for the midterm elections. I think, I think, I think Um, I think the country or the sense at some point— I swear to God, that's why I said tying it up. Um, let's talk about something else. Let's talk about, uh, Malik Beasley.

Oh, let's talk about Malik. And he might be my favorite. I want to try to have this talk with— like, it's tough to have grace in this talk.

Yeah. So they put out the text messages of Malik Beasley and Ed Davis, who they said he owed some money to, and to pay it back he was gonna go rig some games. They highlighted 4 games, uh, in particular, but I mean, if you go back and just watch Malik Beasley tape, there's a lot of examples. They missed a few. Niggas called some of that shit before all of this came out.

A lot of people did. He was like, yo, yo, yo, you see that? They don't— like, when he caught that inbound and it hard-ass to the other end to get that dunk. That's my favorite video. Oh, the line was 8.5.

Yeah, the line. Go look. That's as close to a smoking gun as I've ever seen from a gambler. No, the rebound, the rebound, the rebound, the rebound, the rebound, the rebound, bro. Yeah, he hauled ass again.

He told them dudes, go, go more on my rebounds tonight. But see, I went— somebody I follow went back and watched that whole game. Not just how he went for that rebound, but how thirsty he was to get his rebound. The entire quarter to get that last rebound. He wasn't playing no defense.

He wasn't even playing the game of basketball at this point. I just want rebound. He need this rebound. They was showing him boxing out his teammates. Aw, nigga, I need this.

They showed his reaction when somebody else got the rebound. Like he wasn't even trying to inbound the ball no more. Did you see his reaction when he got the rebound? Yes, he was relieved. Yeah, keep my fingers.

But that's the part where I'm lost at. Like, I saw some something that said some shit. Imani, you still eating McDonald's? It's his son. Oh, okay.

I'm about to judge him. Fucking, uh, and I eat McDonald's sometimes. That's too, that's too big for the kid. Give me a little double quarter pounder. That ain't just for your son in there either.

Now I want some McDonald's. Big bag, dog. I'm not going to lie, so I was like, damn, shit kind of look good. Yeah, look good. Oh, what's up with that?

You think you got a little tan, some new McDonald's? Fuck you, nigga. Uh, what was we talking about? I don't understand how I saw something that went around saying the players that were arrested for this and facing charges for this made over $300 million. That's the part that's confusing to me.

Like, your earnings— I get it. How many— but how many people was it? Why do you get it? Uh, 4 so far. I have a theory.

I think a bunch so far. I only got a couple. That's 70 a pop, 75 a pop. No, they got niggas that made something like— I wanted him to beat this so he could come to the Knicks last year, but again, they said Malik Beasley was losing so much money to them niggas. Gamblers gamble on everything, bro.

That's what it is. And when you got that gambling bug, they said he wanted— they on the plane playing cards or whatever it was, and he owed— now you owe this nigga a bunch of money. Yo, I don't have— I don't have that liquid right now to give you because we big balling. So I'm playing and now I'm in a hole. All right, well, I can show you how to get down.

You can make some of that back and let us make some money off you, right? Now we make some money off you, you don't owe me. Your slate is clean because they're already in the underworld. They're not— this isn't like the Charles Barkley, Michael Jordan.

This is— we already in rooms with people. Yes. Who are in the underworld. The games themselves are illegal, so we already in that room when we lost the $5 million. Right, right.

And then it's like, we want to get it back, here's two ways. Here's two ways to get it back. Yeah, either you pay it, which you don't have liquid, without raising some questions, or you got to go in there and throw some games. That gambling addiction shit ain't no joke. Addiction is no joke.

Addiction, period. No joke, bro. No, but that gambling addiction— because, because if there were a way to beat addiction— and there's not— but if there were a way to, I would think it would involve $300 million. Like, if I had $300— if I had $100 million, if I had fucking $70 million, people, I would change my— your addiction should change. You say that because you think it's actually easier drugs.

If I had $300 million, I'd like to think that I could have a functional heroin habit and not go broke. But if you have $300 million and you gamble, you just keep gambling, like you just keep one turn, the house wins, it goes up, it goes up. And you're competitive. Stories where people lost their marriages, people have lost— niggas put their pink slip up, down— pink slips up, down the lanes, like all types of shit, bro. It's, it's really bad.

They got that office in the— in every casino for for a reason. You can go in there, oh, you tapped, you need a loan, you got a marker, we got you, need a marker, here, here, sign the house. What happened when you took the niggas back there, Big Free, for the security company? I came in and told the story. No, he did casino security.

When shit get rowdy in there. I was in MGM a couple weeks ago and the security nigga, he watches the show, he loves the show, I actually shout out to him. You was where? At MGM. Okay.

And, um, where's that at? In DC, in Maryland. And the nigga came up to me, he told me it's a star that was in there. You built the house in the MGM? No, nigga came in there and told me that it's a star that we know, he lost $14 million.

It was either $9 million or $14 million that day. That day? Oh yeah, I know who that is. Yeah, that day, bro. I was like, man, we sat here and made all these jokes and shit about Bruno Mars about owing all his money and why he had to do what he had had to do.

Offset, another one doing what he had to do. Like, we— when you got that gambling bug, it got you, and you got money. Bruno Mars and Offset were never going to jeopardize their music job. Like, y'all just gonna be in debt, nigga's gonna cut some of your fingers off, nigga's gonna make you perform in this Vegas club for the next 7 years, but when you leave, you'll be able to make a song, distribute a song. Yeah, but these basketball niggas playing around— Pete Rose was so ahead of his time, yo.

Facts. So I'm so mad at how they did Pete Rose. But yo, you say that shit, tell me why. Tell you why? Yeah, what do you think they did Pete Rose wrong with?

Like, how was it? For the lifetime baseball ban for, for, for, for making a winning bet. But see, my team is good, I know, because I'm coaching them. The problem with that is, first of all, I don't think you should be gambling on any— obviously betting against your team is— no, I agree with you, it's a cardinal sin. I agree with you.

He bet on his own team, to your point, which is fair. My concern is that I never— and I've looked pretty deep into this Pete Rose shit— I don't know if he was betting spreads though, because you could bet my team to win, but what if I bet my team to win by 2 and then I do something and now I'm giving up runs? You could still be affecting the outcome of games. You could still be— you could still be cheating the game even if you're betting on your team to win. Or that would be— I don't know what Pete wrote.

I thought he was just betting on his team to win. And I'm saying it's not clear. I'm not saying that's not true. I'm saying we don't know. Or that might be the time that I got caught.

I might have bet on us to lose before. There's no evidence that you bet to lose though. I'm just saying, I'm just giving an example. Yeah, like, yo dog, I might— when shit get thick, I got Pete Rose— this is gonna sound nuts— as being too much of a competitor. Arrogant and competitive.

He's a real— he's him for real. He ain't Pete Rose in your imagination, ain't going to bet on him losing. But that don't make sense. Michael Jordan, they said the nigga Michael Jordan would be on the golf course drinking 10 and 15 beers and be fucked up and will go, I bet you I have 40 tonight. They like, yo, you drunk.

What's up? Yeah, we saw Kobe bet the nigga about a free throw on the line. On on the line. On the line. That's still dangerous.

Think about this as a man, just to give you another example. Let's say he always bet that his team would win by the most possible. You're down 9 runs, but he's so competitive and believes in his team so much, he keeps the starting pitcher in the extra. You see what I'm saying? Throw his arm out.

He might be doing— the average manager at some point is going to concede the game for the long term. But if I bet on that game, technically, yes, I'm doing everything I can for my team to win. I wanted to make it sound like I condone what you're doing. No, I know what you're saying. Okay.

I don't. I'm just saying that we historically have said, as long as you bet on your team to win, you're tech— it's almost like we put an asterisk next to that kind of gambling. Like, if you bet on your team to win, that's way better than betting on your team to lose. I see that in the big picture, and I agree with it. I get what you're saying.

But I'm saying there are some dangers even in betting on your team to win. If I got a million dollars on my team winning and we down 10 runs, I promise you, I'm keeping my starting pitcher in 2 extra innings, even if it hurts his arm. Funny shit about Malik Beasley, he's nice. Yeah, nice. Yes, one of the best shooters in the league.

Yes, he's nice. I think that— and he was getting money. I think that had they— did they clear Rozier yet? No, he ain't getting cleared. He's making $22 million.

Like, you gotta know what you are willing to give up for yearly $22. It wasn't $22, uh, he was making $20 million a year. You got to be in way over your head or you to be getting threatened on another level where niggas is talking about kidnapping your family or something. And I don't think— I honestly don't think it got to be that bad. I think it shit worked for the first time and it just became easy.

Sometimes that's all it takes. Yo, all right, you know what, I owe this, let me do— I got away. Oh, word, that's it, bro. And now you done— the snowball done roll downhill. Now, now it's out of control.

Okay, but in it becoming easy as an athlete You shouldn't want to embarrass yourself in front of your peers or appear to not understand the game in front of your peers. That Malik Beasley, when he, when he ran down the court with the layup because the spread was 8.5 to cut the lead from 9— you crazy. He should have told whoever he was dealing with, hey, I can't do this. Hey, we should lose so we could continue winning. Even if that's your scam.

You can't go in a real game and look like that. You can't, you can't look like that. Dude that got $5 million on that, he don't give a fuck about that. That's your problem. You got to take an L sometimes to keep a scam going.

Agreed. You got to take the L even if that, even if that— yo, that's, that's nuts. He, he bugged out. Then they had the text messages after he got the rebound from them. I guess it was a group chat they had.

It was a group chat. It was a group chat. Yo, he got a rebound. 1.1 seconds. Oh, he did.

Yo, we was about to be down so much money. No, and I, and I think, because I'm not— I don't have it in front of me— I think he said we was about to be down so many thousands. That's what it was. We're about to be on so many thousands. That's weird.

That's what it was. Confusing. Oh, we're talking about multi, multi-millionaire nigga. I don't get it, man. I was ready to come in here and give him in the— it could have been a couple hundred thousand, but a couple hundred thousand at 8 to 1, 9 to 1, you know what I'm saying?

$50,000 on the right bet at 8 to 1 odds. See, this is different. Beasley and, and Rozier and them niggas, to me, is different from, uh, Pete Rose. Uh, no, not Pete Rose. Uh, Porter's brother, Jontay Porter.

Nigga, that's all I said. You was a bum. No, he was a bum. Oh, you saying— okay, he was probably shocked to ever play more than 6 minutes a game. He probably knew he wasn't about to be around too long.

Hey, go ahead and risk it, nigga. Hey, gamble, nigga, we ain't gonna be seeing you too much. Beasley and Rozier are nice, been around nice. They nice. They could get a job if not in the NBA, in the fucking EuroLeague, in the China League, any league.

Why would you jeopardize your ability ability to be able to— yo, when, when I used to be on some bullshit in the stores, the stores know I'm coming in still, and they'd be like, hey, all right, we catch you again, you can't come here no more. Well, no, well, we gotta slow down now because I want to keep stealing from here. So it's very important that you don't catch me because this is my favorite store to steal out. Check this out, Joe. Now let's say something you stole out of that store was because you owed it to somebody else, and they don't give a fuck, but you better come back with that item out of store.

Now you go in the store, they see you, and you can't play that whole, all right, let me chill out, let me let the scam go, because if I don't come out with this item that these niggas need, it's gonna be some real repercussions over here. And that's worse than me getting caught stealing. I'm not even about to put myself in the predicament with nobody that's about to break my legs in the event that I don't do something, because chances are I'm not gonna do something. And I like legs. Legs.

You don't put themselves in there. You don't know them first. Yeah, you don't know that niggas is regular degular niggas that you gambling with until you going— oh, hold it now. Mistake number one. True.

Mistake number one then. But those be the ones you get the most. But we still talking about this different than we do other addictions, like, because part— we always talk about— we're thinking about the strategy of the scam. But until I said it, Mark, I never even looked at it like a gambling addiction thing. Like, he He woke me up to— I'm like, yo, this nigga's right.

Because that's the problem. And now I understand. Now I get it. Because if somebody had a heroin addiction, we wouldn't be like, don't shoplift today, don't shoplift. But I'm just saying, we also went back, why?

Just shoplift 2 days from now so you can keep stealing for heroin. We'd be like, nigga, heroin ain't waiting 2 days. Gambling addicts be the same way. Even when you in that scam doing an extra rebound, part of that is the scam, but part of that is the gambling part of it, and the rush from the gambling. As the officer got shot, nigga, he was back in the casino.

Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that, man. It was rumors. I would have went to the same casino the same night. It was rumors running around that they wouldn't let Floyd leave Saudi Arabia. Yeah, Floyd Money Mayweather.

Like, when that get— it don't matter who the fuck you are, bro. And you got a lot of money with these, with these. I think they'll let you win the big— like, you might bet $5 million and win some big shit, and then you may think that you could still do it, and then they just get you. Wow, bro. I've gambled money, but that's why I won't gamble, just because I know me.

Like, the casino— the casino look good. The bitches is over there, niggas could smoke over there, cigars is lit, they having a time, free drinks. Yeah, if I go over there in that and play one hand, that's the night. I'm not moving. You ain't gonna be— if you couldn't plaster me away, they got ID clear War, the casino.

That's crazy. I ain't played that in a while. I declare, but I bet I'm good still. How much you want to put up, nigga? Nah, see, I don't play.

I'm telling you, like, yo, we going to make this as simple as possible. War, high card, low card. My other thing is sometimes we had to gamble in life because we didn't have it and didn't know where it was coming from. But now that we stabilized a little bit and legit, I ain't risking no legit money. Oh, have it to heart.

I don't— again, you got to count on the person that you saying like they going into it thinking that. You go into it and it work one or two times, now it's quick. This is quick money, and you get hooked on that. If you had my money, what, Ish? You gamble, Ish?

I be— yeah, you have a problem. Oh, Ish, no. So that helps me understand. I'm a gambler. That helps me understand more, more of a cushion, more— yeah, cuz now it's not dying.

Oh, that's interesting. So you're a gambler, you're just reverse? No, I, I, my, my logic sets in because I got children and a home and you can't afford to lose. How you gonna not, right? You know what I mean?

Like risk averse? Yeah, bro, if I had your money, damn, shut up. I'm serious. Yeah, let's be going crazy. See, I'm the opposite.

Yeah, I mean, I think when I walk in a casino, which is very rare, I, I, I say, how much am I willing to lose I don't ever go and think I'm gonna win, and I'm comfortable playing that amount as an L. And if I make some, I put it in my pocket and I walk away. I could play 3 hands of blackjack and walk away. Same. I play roulette, but I put it to— like, I put my initial money back, and then whatever I do afterwards is plus. Yeah.

And if I end up— I've lost tax, I still got that. If I had $50 million, that number might be higher, right? Of course, the principal would be the same. See, if I'm in the casino, I'm going to the Italian restaurant or the steak shop or the big diner where all the pores go eat together and you got to look at each other. It's like a big— it's like a big eating station.

I know. TV is up, you can sit there all day. It's like a lunchroom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or I'll go to fucking Balenciaga where the stores are to front on some window shop shit, just walking around over here like, I don't— the actual casino?

Yeah. All right, I'm in the building, bro. Damn, right to that roulette wheel right there. No, I'm, I'm playing. What's the most you won in the casinos?

Yeah, $7,000, some— somewhere around there. How much did you— how much did you walk out with other at 7? No, that's what I won. Oh, okay. Cuz what's the most you lost in the casino?

10, 12. I was in Vegas one time. I remember I was in Vegas one time. I was cursing them niggas out cuz they wouldn't let me take no more money out the bank. Damn, you trying to get your shit back?

No, it's my money. Fuck you mean can't get no more out? But I mean, you were down is what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you start chasing and then you'll get— they'll make some accommodations for you. But yeah, like, gambling is bad, bro.

Like, if I go going to casino, you'll be like, tomorrow, yo, I'm, I'mma pull 5. You'll pull $500 out in the beginning and you'll go back. That's how you used to be at the strip club, same shit. See, I see, I don't do that in a strip club. I'm not throwing— that's why, that's why I, I'll try my best to not go to— now I got a little more under control.

What would you say? I don't care what you doing your best. We don't care, we talking about our gambling habits, nigga. Fuck you talking about, nigga? We heard you already, boy.

Too much Joe in this show, man. You try to do your best to what? It actually sound interesting.

Uh, we're talking about strip club. Calculate risk. Oh, to not, to not go to the, uh, fucking, uh, boxing fights that fucking me and Cory be wanting to go to. Because it's not that you got a problem. You might get paid a $30, $40 to go to the boxing.

Cool. But what that casino look like on that, on that weekend? I gotta, I gotta get down there. I gotta see what it feel like. Get a little bit of that on you.

Slim Thug just walked by, man. Tall, nigga. Now I'm gambling, nigga. Fuck we doing, nigga? What you talking about, man?

Barnes and Shaq is here, nigga. No, hey, hey, bro, blow on it. I gotta make a movie out this motherfucker. Sorry. So I'd rather just not jumping on your ass.

I'd rather not. I'd rather not do it. Yeah, he's smart. Rather not do it. Smart discipline to know not to— you know what, I'm not even gonna play like that.

Everybody don't have it. Actually, to anybody out there that has a gambling problem, 1-800-GAMBLER, yo. How much you want? How much you won? They say it on everything, and we should say it too, as being responsible.

Okay, how much you won before? I won won shit a couple weeks ago. I think I won like $4,800. That's it. I think I got the gambling number memorized.

They got the suicide hotline. All right, Logic, lost all your money. Are you alive, you bitch? Nigga, why you think the hotel windows don't open? Yeah, why you think— hey, I'm about to say, if you lose all your money— but yeah, it's connected.

Yeah, it's connected. Yeah, y'all teaching me today.

And the hotel windows don't open because of white domestic violence. Wow. Since you're asking me, that's not why, nigga. Yes, the fuck it is. Yeah, shoot the window out and start picking motherfuckers off.

It's white domestic violence. It's like, yeah, it was like that before that, huh? It was like that before. Domestic violence. You know, Billy, you mean white terrorism?

No, you mean domestic terrorism? No, no, you mean a white dude beating his wife? Yes. Yeah, push out the window. Yeah, because y'all was talking about somebody and domestic and domestic terrorism.

I thought you meant to say something else. Y'all was talking about two different things. I just try to clarify that white people don't need balconies. You want to go to— you want to see the ground? Yeah, they fucking— white people don't give a fuck.

You want to go talk to your grandmother? I'll send you right to her right now. Tell her I said hi. Yo, yo, that's a trigger warning. Trigger warning.

They say crazy shit when they argue. Black domestic violence in them buildings. The nigga go to the soda machine. I'll fuck you, bitch. Walk out, go get some ice with the bucket.

They gotta wait till you get home. Yeah.

When we get home, let me get away from that window. Yeah, that stupid ass white nigga. That's stupid. And rest in peace, because it ain't funny, but that stupid motherfucking white nigga. Yeah, yeah, I'm mad about that.

Wait, they did what? The country, the country festival. The devil nigga went out there and did that stupid— yeah, I'm mad about that. Yeah, yes, I'm mad about that. I get mad when people are centralized somewhere to have a good time, listen to some music, vibe out.

You ever went to a concert? Never know that feeling you get. Yeah, you shouldn't have to worry about— you shouldn't, you shouldn't have to worry about none of that at a concert. I understand. I mean, you hurt by it, you mad or— no, I'm mad, hurt, all the feelings you could have.

I done seen the doc, they done seen this nigga put— putting the gun together, the bag, walking in, not being checked, all this shit. Oh, they got metal, uh, metal detectors in the schools, but a nigga could walk up in the hotel and just fucking load some shit and kill a bunch of people. I think that's fucked up, but that I do. I do. Yo, there's a video you were showing me before the show started that I thought we should talk— I thought we should talk about Chris Johnson while we were on Malik Beasley.

We should. Oh, oh man. Oh God. Chris Johnson, CJ2K, one of the greatest running backs, and probably the greatest— one of the greatest fantasy running backs. Oh, sure, for sure, for sure, for sure.

But one of the greatest running one of the greatest running backs of all time, recently came out and, uh, did an interview with his wife where they talked about his health condition. And he has ALS, ALS, which I admittedly don't know very much about, uh, but Chris Johnson is 39 years old. Uh, I'm gonna play this video. In this video, he is in the chair. Uh, the voice you hear is coming from the chair and the screen and the, you know, the automated shit that they fucking loaded his voice into.

Uh, but this is just extremely sad, and my heart goes out to Chris Johnson. Let me find the clip. Here we go. He's fast, super fast. He's one of the fastest sporties ever.

Yeah. Why do you want to share this now? Because if sharing my story helps even one person get diagnosed sooner, inspires more research, or gives another family hope, then it's worth it. Johnson says he was in the prime of his life, working out daily. This from Good Morning America.

Shout out to Michael Strahan. Yeah, until ALS changed everything. Let's go back to last year. When did you notice that something was off? I first noticed weakness in my right hand.

At first, there was little things like My grip didn't feel right, and I wasn't as strong as I've always been. His wife Brittany thought it was something much simpler. Brittany, what did you think it was at the time? I thought because, um, football and, you know, his career, that it had to be something with that, maybe a pinched nerve or something along those lines, but never ALS. That's when I started crying because I thought the same thing.

Word. Condition. We hoped it was something else, but after thorough testing, they finally came down with a diagnosis of ALS. They told us about a medication that might extend life by a few months. Then they told us to, uh, get our affairs in order.

It was hard hearing that, but after watching Good Morning America and seeing Dr. Merrick with Eric Dane, we reached out to her. She was willing to think more creatively, offering experimental treatments that might help and advance research. And again, in this video, Chris Johnson is smaller than we remember him to be. It was real little to start. He lost— I know, but he's even smaller and lost some weight.

He just doesn't look like the force that we knew him to be. This was extremely sad. Time. I'm sorry. And he was icy, right?

His, his shit was like— why you want to share this now? Oh, whoa, whoa, sorry about that, sorry about that. And nobody knew who he was. They was like, who the fuck is that? And they was like, Chris Johnson.

I'm like, get the fuck out of here, bro. He was small, like, I'm like, oh, he got to be a different type of fast and quick and strong. He was little, bro, like real small, probably 5'8", like, but little, little frame. I said, oh yeah, he's fast That's the shit. That's, that's part of the sad part about ALS, which y'all probably know is Lou Gehrig's disease.

You've probably heard of it at least. Uh, it's a neurodegenerative disease, so you start, start to lose brain function, you start to lose muscle strength and mobility to the point where at some point you often can't walk, can't move, can't speak, can't do things. Breathe, can't swallow. Yeah, like it affects all of that, everything. I had a— Kevin Thompson Sr., one is one of the great martial black martial artist ever, got it about maybe like 10 years ago and passed away from it.

We see athletes get it. Obviously Luke Eric got it. It's sad when anybody gets it, but when you watch people who spent their life kind of defined by their physicality and their body and their extraordinary athletic ability, to watch them kind of waste away physically, it's even more like— I don't know, for me it's tragic and super sad, man. The craziest part, because I was reading up on ALS, Says 90 to 95% of cases are sporadic without a clear family history. It's not like it's genetic, right?

It just pops the fuck up. Remember everybody was doing the Ice Bucket Challenge? Yeah, that's what they was doing. Yeah, it was. Yep, yep.

It was for that, man. And they was donating a bunch of the money to the research for the ALS. Yeah, that's a good cause, but you just pissed me off. Why? We was having a blast pouring ice on ourselves.

I mean, we was, but that's the cause. That was, that was what it was. For them. That was good that we had a blast. They kept it going, kept the money going.

Content creators could go to hell. Yo, we need to go down. Why we want— oh, go ahead. No, no, please. Yeah, niggas is going through real shit.

This, this, this— I don't have nothing to say because this just hurts my heart. I want to— he did put something out. He's sharing his story. He says, first, I want to thank God for carrying me through. And I'm not going to read this all because it's very long.

Um, Most of all, I wanna thank my wife Brittany, and that's important to me 'cause we've been coming up here telling these stories of marriages going awry once somebody goes through a health issue. But his wife was right there, standing by his side. There aren't enough words for what you've done. You've become my caregiver, my advocate, my voice when I need one, and somehow you've continued to hold our family together through all of this. I know this hasn't just changed my life, it's changed yours too.

I couldn't fight this without you. You. Uh, he wrote something to his kids that I won't read because I'll cry right on the air. To his friends— let me just get to the end where he says, uh, this disease is strong, but I'm stronger than the version of me that thought, uh, ALS would end my story. I'm not disappearing.

I'm here, and I'm going to keep fighting. I intend to be around for a long time for my family, for our communities, and for anyone out there who needs to hear that hope isn't just slogan. It's a decision that we make every single day. And if you've ever wondered what you can do to help, he says, please donate to ALS research. Every contribution helps give scientists the tools to move faster, bring better treatments to families sooner, and move us closer to a cure.

One contribution can be the difference between someday and soon. Uh, and he thanks everybody for watching. Thank you for loving me. Thank you for for standing with me. Chris Johnson, we love you, man.

Yeah, we love you, we love you. While we're on a sad note, I just want to do it— while we're on a sad note, I just want to do a rest in peace for, uh, the great, uh, Khadijah Farrakhan. Indeed. The, uh, the wife of Minister Louis Farrakhan, who passed away a few days ago. A lot of times when we celebrate extraordinary leaders, whether it's Du Bois, whether it's King, Garvey, we often don't recognize the labor and the work of the women who toiled beside them.

Not just as people in the background, but people who helped do the work of building up those empires, those movements, those organizations. And Khadijah Farrakhan is no different. She was Minister Farrakhan's partner. His, his wife for more than 7 decades, which is crazy to imagine. You live to be 90 and you've been married for 73 years, just about, um, is amazing.

But again, she wasn't just a wife, she was a helpmeet, she was a partner. She helped him, uh, they joined the faith together, they grew together. She was originally Betsy Ross, who became Betsy Walcott, who became Betsy Farrakhan, who eventually took the name Khadijah. And for those that don't know, Khadijah was the wife of the Prophet Muhammad, sallallahu alayhi wasallam, and somebody who helped build something. And she did the same for him.

She was known as the mother of the faithful. She was known as someone who was an inspiration to women. She was someone who represented beauty and dignity and humility. When you talk about Muslim girls training and general civilization classes, MGT and GCC, she was at the front of it. She was the face of something that was powerful and beautiful and transformative for Black people and really for the nation.

Khadijah Farrakhan was extraordinary, not just for 9 children, not just for literally dozens of grandchildren, not just for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of women who followed her, but for an entire world to see the example of what grace and dignity community and faith can produce. And so we send love and condolences to the Farrakhan family and to everyone who identifies as a believer. And in Islam, we say, "Inna lillahi wa inna illahi rajion." Surely we are gods, and to gods we will return, or we are returning. Well said, Marc. Rest in peace.

Indeed. Rest in peace.

You've never heard of Joe? You've never heard of Joe, buddy?

Mark, you be killing the eulogies. You really do, and I love that you do that. Here. But when you stop, like, you gotta find a way to pick it up. Don't toss it to me.

All right, I don't know how to— I'm sad. Yo, yo, is she got 100 on you? All right, she got 100 on you. I want to post that clip of the eulogy on my website, and I'm gonna need 500.

He going through it, nigga. Them niggas standing against you. That's what they talking— y'all take credit cards? What? Them niggas said they stole from the— yeah, yeah, yeah, don't play optimistic now.

Y'all put that finger up to me when I leave. Hear me closely, cuz this shit a lie. Put on I Get Money, come on.

He got rid of his old shit. All right, we can't hear you. We can't hear you. There you go. Go ahead.

Now you know what it is, man. Don't get an attitude, nigga, because you mad at them because they accused you of doing that, nigga. Take it out on them. Go into space and talk to them right now. Matter of fact, queue up your space now, nigga.

Uh, you gotta pay to talk to him now. Fuck you talking about? Oh, shit. Cliff, you know he charging $50 for every space appearance.

Yummy on some JBC, see you here.

Y'all try to get me in trouble. I ain't messing with y'all, man. Shout out to the community wherever you at. Which community? The new one?

All the communities. Shout out to each and every one of the communities out there, man. I love that. You got to get to the bag though, yo. Yo, we getting to— it's a business, man.

This nigga is changing the game continuously. We need to highlight your service. Thank you for your promotion. Get that. Niggas always want to talk about some old shit, man.

Last week, some last week shit. 10 years of service. We won't report you. You won't get get reported, nigga. Just break bread, you won't get reported.

Yeah, what else we got? That report— go ahead, Flip. It's all right. Yeah, he want to change the subject. Yeah, I don't want to change the subject.

No, you— he does. Oh yeah, I know he do. I'm with you, Flip. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's me and Flip.

He's looking at you, nigga. What, the Spike Lee joint? Is that his? You see Spike Lee on the side of the hat? No.

Oh, I see Oh, that fly. Let me see. Yeah, these, these fake Knicks fans, yo. Go ahead, man, go ahead. It's your world.

There's a Knicks conspiracy that I read that says the Knicks got the worst NBA championship shirts because they were supposed to be Spurs shirts. Oh God, I saw that. It says the last 4 champions the champions' colors in the shirt. It do look— and our shirt, it does look like it does. And when they show you the last shirts and you see the last shirts, it's like, I, I get it.

But to me, that makes it flyer. I do too. To me, that makes it even doper. Yeah, we wasn't supposed to win this, and this is your shirt. Send that shit to, you know, send that shit.

Did they show the— send that shit. No, you don't see that. It land over there when they send it. Oh yeah, go Knicks, man. All right, what else?

What else needs our— I think we had about 7 hours here. We have like 3 hours, right? I don't think there's anything else that needs— let me see. Amber Rose is a nutcase. Fucking Malik Beasley.

Chris Johnson, my heart still goes out to you, man. I can't, I can't. At 39 years old, see, we be thinking sometimes that you got to be older to get some of this stuff. True, true, true. Yeah, yeah, true.

That's crazy. You never know. That's true. 39 years old. I mean, shit, how can you blame, uh, Megatron?

Good point. How do you blame him for walking away early like that? On some football fans, you be like, how do you blame— how do you blame Andrew Luck? Yeah, who was getting— how do you— you can't. Yeah, it's the other side of that.

You can't, can't blame him. And I get it, you, you get what you get in life, but that football shit— I mean, we barbarians, so we can't really have no real conversation, but that football shit, I'm over it. I'd be over it if I had to be a player. Yeah, I wouldn't play that shit. I'm saying as a parent, I wouldn't play it.

I don't— I wouldn't let my kids play it. My son is built for football. There ain't no way he gonna play football. Yeah, I can't. Not gonna do it.

That's not happening unless he's gonna be a kicker, unless he's gonna be a A field goal kicker. He gonna be Dylan. They get fucked up too. I'm saying that. Well, my stepson is killing, but I mean, that's a kid.

Nah, but he bodying it, you know. That's a, you know. Did she say? Yes, I'm asking that. It's been a great show.

No, I mean, football was his passion when I came into his life. But if you, but if you're asking me, my, my imagination in my head see me and my baby at a game one day, and now I gotta hold her hand 'cause somebody done hit her child the way that they should have hit her. It's football, somebody gonna get hit. Yeah, but come on, Joe, that's awful. Yeah, I mean, it's fucked up if I'm at the game.

He played defense. If I'm home, then, huh? You say he played defense? So did Damar Hamlin. Shit, that Damar Hamlin shit, that don't mean nothing.

The Bills— that Damar Hamlin shit was so bad, the Bills ain't cut him yet.

It's been a great show, y'all. It's been a great show. Hope you enjoyed it as much as we enjoyed making it. Hey, if there's one person that you ain't really been getting the production from— hey, every summer I'm like, yo, this nigga is still a bill. They will not let him go.

He'll be doing all right. Did they let him go? No, he's not bad either. I thought they doing all right season. Oh, please cut that nigga.

Come on. All right, yo, I still want him to live. What the fuck you talking about? I mean, he got to feed his family, nigga. Yeah, I ain't mad at that.

I want nobody to not be able to feed their family. True, that is absolutely true. Unless, unless you're a Clipper. Oh shit, you're right, he signed a 1-year contract in March. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, he just signed a 1-year contract in March.

Not let DeMar Hamlin go. I like that. I'm not mad. No, go ahead, that was against your team, right? My memory is bad.

Was that a Steelers game? I don't think that was— I don't think it was Steelers game. No, it was Bangles or something, wasn't it? Yeah, whatever, whatever, we'll find out later. Uh, okay, let's see, let's see, let's see.

Oh shit, I might as well keep it here. Oh, that's different now. 50'S MAGA. Hey, can I end with this? 58 MAGA.

All right, I'll end with it.

This shit is hard. It fits you. Huh? You wear that. It fits you.

I wear what? That song. It fits you. Mark, why do you still have my chain on? You don't care about it.

You left it on the ground. I've had it for about half the show. I know. I just didn't want to interrupt the show with such foolishness. No, you didn't, because I just pulled it out like 10 seconds ago.

No, it was tucked in. You think I can't tell when a chain is tucked in? You an expert on it. Oh, God. Oh, shit.

I'm walking into him tonight. Yo, listen, man, hopefully y'all— Yes, he going home to his family, nigga. You got— you stuck with me. Uh, listen, hopefully you have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers, especially me, please.

Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, I bid you adieu, farewell, adios, arrivederci, hasta la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye, or simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass, so let's make this one last. Give me this shit. I win it again.

I'm going to put some labs in this motherfucker. I'm about to ice this motherfucker out. Uh, last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it. Fourth of July weekend, Fourth of July weekend.

What's the plans? What's the plans? Weekend or week? We still in the week. Uh, the weekend.

Uh, I'll be at the beach. I'm trying to talk my wife to go into Essence. Are you, are you gonna do the beach during all this, uh, heat, uh, heat wave shit? Yes, me, CeCe, my baby moms, we taking all the kids to the beach tomorrow and Thursday. Yo, stop!

What? Stop, man! Leave the nigga alone! The fuck is the problem? He's alone, boy.

I didn't say that, but he's alone. He need to tell us that in hour 1, boy, so we could have some fun with him. You know better. He's smart. I smart.

I'm with it. I think it's smart. The whole family going, right, Freezy? Yo, yo, this ain't that little Red Lobster shit y'all did as a blended family. This bikinis, boy.

Oh boy, you better keep your eyes straight. You better keep them straight. Have y'all seen my seen my woman? Huh? Have y'all seen my woman?

She looks great. Only in her eyes. Let me let y'all know something. She looks amazing. No, he said you got— he said you doing the other shit.

What am I doing? Adding, adding on? No, ain't nobody talking about how your missing beast look. I'm just saying, keep your eyes— Freezy said he ain't got to look nowhere else. I don't have to look nowhere else.

He brought Santa to the beach because his beach is better. Exactly. Yeah, but your taste wasn't so bad when you went to the other beach. Yeah, that's what he said. He said you bring it.

So now you got— now you're bringing the Mac in together to touch. Hey, let's go, Freeze! Hold on, you giving up, Freeze? Right here on the beach, nigga. No, nigga.

Yo, y'all always making nasty words. Grow up, y'all. Grow up. You a legend, nigga. Playing with you, boy.

Nobody give a fuck about scars on your legs. Them scars come from something. Freeze, boy, you taking your girl and your M to the B, and that nigga's that nigga, yo. I only crack on him because we on air, but in real life, that nigga is that boy. That's beautiful.

That's fly. I love free. Kick the door down, nigga. Let go through the door. I cut my shit, bitch.

You know that ain't good. What beach? We gonna be going to Jersey. I'm not saying the name. I was about to say, come on.

Getting the telly out there. Yes.

Yo, Freeze, you got to tell me that album was so I can big you up. Hey, how many beds in the room? 2 rooms for the kid. One for the kids, one for joining, one for the kids. Hey, put the kids to sleep.

Hey, y'all go to your room, y'all. I see what y'all on. I'm not thinking. Got to do something. I ain't thinking.

You already— hey, yo, me and Mommy's got to do something. We got parent meeting. Hey, got to talk to your mother about out some things. Your mothers! Your mothers!

We got to work some stuff out. Oh my God, well, we can't hear because y'all doing some secret shit, but we going to crack open secret shit. This nigga just stupid. Only Freeze can pull that off. That boy bad.

That's what I'm saying, boy. You bringing the honey pack? No, you ain't got enough dick to still do that. You ain't got enough dick to do that. He bringing the rhino, nigga.

Yo, he ain't got enough dick to go around. Nah. Yo, get a third room, yo. Yo, get a third room. Forget about what we talking about.

Anyway, what are y'all doing? I'm trying to get my wife to go to Essence Fest. She's been wanting to go, and as much as I'd love— I hate to be alone for the weekend, I'm willing to— Well, you trying to get her to go? Yeah, it's a woman's event. It's a Black woman's event.

It's not for me. Oh, you going? No, I'm going to stay home. No, he trying to send her. That's what he— that's what— he fucked me up when he said it.

I thought he was trying to get her to go with you. Something going on. I'mma get that to the bottom of you, boy. Hey, yo, you like— there's some freaky doctor shit going on with you, boy. Deadass, there's some shit going on with you, yo.

Mark's a swinger. Something, something is happening. Something is happening. Somebody call the doctor. Yes, let me You got a white robe in the closet?

Freak, son. I wonder why you went so hard on— she said it was an Aaliyah tribute. Yo, can y'all stop? Can you— Jesus. My wife said it was an Aaliyah tribute down there and she wish she could go.

And I was like, oh, you can go. You know, I'm, I'm making some calls right now to get the, the passes. And you know, shut up. You going— my girl want to go with her. My girl love Aaliyah.

See if they can I think we made, I made two phone calls. See, I'm trying to figure out my Fourth of July plans because similar to what you guys are talking about, like Rem had a party this weekend and she was yelling a lot. She lost her voice. Oh. So I haven't heard my wife's voice in like 5 days.

I'm so sorry. Oh man. I know it's tough. Tell me exactly what you got to do to us. Like specifically, detail by detail.

So I just can't wait for the weekend. You know, I think she'll be good by then. Just to hear your baby's voice again. That's it, that's it. I know, I know you been— how you been, y'all?

How you holding up? I know it's been rough not being able to hear her in the house talking about anything. It's hard, it's hard. Damn, sorry that happened. A lot of texting.

We got a whiteboard, you know what I mean? Like Lotto when she wrote the lyric, you know what I mean? Same type of shit. I'm sorry that happened to you and congrats. And congrats.

Here's what you doing— going away. Ooh, Virginia, how's it 100. Wait, say it. I don't know why. I don't— you like Charlie Brown with the football at this point, huh?

For 800 episodes, you run up to it, think it's going to be there when you kick it, and it's not. You ask this nigga a question every day and you know what the fuck is about to happen. You act surprised every time. You do. You Charlie Brown with the football.

You got too much hope, nigga. You know, you know he does. Where you going, bro? You can't share? You can't share it?

I'm chilling. It's private. The fuck are we doing? Nobody going to go there, nigga. Uh, what am I doing, man?

I'm not doing nothing. I don't have no plans. My baby's going to see Aaliyah. She don't even know it yet. I'll probably just— I'll probably just be home preparing the house, getting everything ready.

I might make dinner for her that night. Oh yeah. Chef Joe is back. Chicken, chicken, chicken burger. Chef Joe Yardie.

That's a great idea. Yo, you play— I know you cracking on me, but she got a list of all my little specialty meals that now I gotta make. Meals or dishes? That's fine. Dishes, something, something, whatever I make, whether it's burgers.

She said, yeah, Joe Burger, nigga. Oh yeah, I'm up there. Give me mine. Out. Shut up, you got to do that.

I guess time to work. You last one. Cooking for me, cooking for the kids. Yes, stupid. Never that.

No. Yes, never that. They won't like you, boy. You can't cook for one plate. Oh, I ain't— never mind.

I'd be going out of my way to be a nigga they don't like. Hey, listen to your mother, you little motherfucker. I'm not— nope. All right, hey, we getting it. Oh, oh, oh, the Mario's over.

Look at that. Look at God. Yo, happy Fourth of July out there. Indeed. Please be safe.

Don't pull a, uh, OC Human. Was that OC? JPP. Yo, and it wasn't even just JPP. JPP.

JPP. I just said that. JPP. No, I said JPP. And you know we got another show before the Fourth.

That's true. We have a show on that airs on On the 4th, when the weather break, I start feeling like the Tuesdays is Fridays, nigga. Cuz you talking like we weren't going to show up. Final Freedom Tuesday, nigga. Side, fuck you talk about.

Final Freedom Tuesday, have the same ring. Got to, got to step out, got to step out. My trainer think I'm showing up in the morning. Slow down. Oh, he going to be happy.

He ain't got to rack all them weights, make smoothies. They wouldn't give Babe, massage your shoulder. Are y'all paid for the month? No, nigga, you think I'm rich anyway? Yes, nigga.

You got money for your tenants? All of them, nigga? We about to be in July. You a liar. I swear to God.

Texting them now. He's still texting, nigga.

JBP, JBP, JBP, JBP, JBP, JBP, JBP, JBP, where would you be without the JBP?

We'll fold that up right now.

You've never heard of Joe Budden?