Transcript of Episode 941 | "9th Wonder Is Listening"

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interest at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Turn the mic on. And he calls himself a professional. Why do y'all never know that we're starting? Because it's 7 minutes earlier than we normally start. A bagel and a bacon, egg, and cheese. As a non-praying Muslim, always turkey. You still got the fucking— that dirty— that dirty Diana phone case.

Oh, I'm keeping this.

That red shit that I told you to change. Your classic gray jeans. Come on, man. We gotta show to do.

We started 7 minutes early. I see.

No, we didn't. We're starting 22 minutes late. Yeah, yeah. And really, that's 30— my bad, bad. 52 minutes late. It's really 52 minutes late. But it's good to see everybody. Or almost everybody.

Almost everybody.

So listen.

That's the other reason I think we started.

Ain't nobody here.

Everybody's here, Mark. That's the thing, man.

Oh, that's philosophical.

Yeah, everybody's here. Everybody's here.

Everybody here.

The audience is here, so.

Yeah. Yeah, okay, that's true. The large crew is a luxury, right?

That's true.

It wasn't always like this.

Yeah, not, not at all.

Yeah, first time I watched, it was just you.

And in my head, it can always be that. So if I'm, if I'm here and Parks is here and you guys are here, we're here. The show's ready. Ish is on the way. He's here with us in spirit. We love him. We hope everything is okay. Mona called out ages ago. We love her. She's our sister. She's here with us in spirit. We hope everything is okay. And Flip is on the way.

Nice.

Gang will be here, don't worry about it, don't worry about it.

You said we got enough. Yeah, less is more.

I didn't need gang to say what I got to say about B2K. Oh shit, I ain't need no nobody for that. That was fun.

I'm glad you took your take back.

Word.

Last episode, I ain't no dummy.

I got ahead of that early. Some people say things on the airwaves and they never revisit it themselves. They go home and that's just it, whatever comes with it. Not me. I go home and some of this shit lingers with me. I think about it. I was like, oh, I said that shit.

Yeah.

And I watched some shit from years ago and be like, oh, like, it's important, it's important. Boy, did they get dog walked.

They got they ass whooped.

I missed it and I'm not mad that I missed it.

You didn't miss it.

It was a story of fireworks last night and then we went and watched a little soccer.

What was those fireworks about?

Uh, they do the Fourth of July fireworks early, did not compete with the big New York fireworks. So that's the Astoria Park.

And Hov had fireworks too.

No, he didn't. He was watching the Astoria fireworks, buddy.

Hov had fireworks.

No, he didn't. Freeze. Oh, he was in the story. He had fireworks.

Hov had fireworks.

He saw fireworks.

Hov was with us, man. He was in the story.

All right, we just getting lies.

I don't think he was in Astoria Park.

I thought y'all would have been there.

I was on my balcony confused as hell. Somebody's having a blast. And it wasn't like the project niggas with Roman candles blast. Those are big fireworks.

They passed around— you know how they, they passed around— well, they, um, on social media was going around certain areas by— or Roc Nation filed for the permits and there were fireworks planned at Pier 81. And it was a couple locations because he had put this map out.

I thought you were joking.

No, I'm dead serious.

Oh.

He did the whole shit yesterday with, um, the pop-up shops and then all these, uh, specific locations like where the tunnel was, where, um, D&D Studios was, all that type of shit. And they had fireworks set up.

I would have went to the D&D fireworks.

I was— I was there. All right, you got it. Hey yo, Freeze, come on, man. Don't start with me today. Or don't make me— don't make me start with you.

Don't start with me.

Jay-Z did not have fireworks, and if he did, I'm going to judge him, bro.

Yesterday was the 30th anniversary of Reasonable Doubt. They've been celebrating and leading up to this moment. Yes, I would see him having fireworks.

But what about Reasonable Doubt gives fireworks? I'm trying to chill, cuz some people come—

what about Reasonable Doubt gives fireworks?

It's not a—

it's not a fireworks album.

He's not the album that set off the whole Pimpin' career. What are you talking about, nigga?

What about—

what about 5 State Street gives fireworks.

I didn't say at every location, but they had, they had them marked, like where the old, uh, Rockefeller office was. They had—

they put them out. Let me find out that you purchased fireworks and sprayed them shits across New York City.

How long you felt that way about Reasonable Doubt?

That is not a fireworky album.

It's a great album.

It's not, it's not— there's nothing to be saved about it. It's not a fireworky album.

Should I get the Clippers?

What song on it? Mark, let me tell you something. This is what I learned. The same way that you feel about working with us—

no, listen to me.

No, no, no, for real, on God. I learned this over the weekend or the other day. The same way Mark feels about working with us, like, cuz Mark is really one of the more intelligent people that people know. Like, I've heard this from too many people. So we say some stupid shit up here.

Uh-huh. He does too sometimes. Now hold up, we all do.

Slow down though.

Okay.

So we'll say some stupid uneducated shit and he has to go back out and his educator friends, they look at him a way.

They be mad at him.

They look at him a way, he didn't say nothing.

He said stupid educator shit.

But just from him hanging out with niggas that's as stupid as us, they look at him. That is exactly how I feel when Mark comes in here and talks anything music.

Oh, nah, he knows music.

He just be—

When Mark says anything music, and I have to go out in the world and face my musician friends. Oh, I got it, I get it. And they be like, why you— So Mark say some shit, we on a podcast for debate, let's have a good time. I be forgetting that when I get home, 9th Wonder heard this. Like, it don't just be the music heads, it be the Questlove, the hurt niggas that, you know what I mean?

That's so funny, 'cause it wasn't me, like, I be fucking with them.

So they were embarrassed. My 9th Wonder, man, he sitting there writing a book in our DMs. He is going crazy. Mark don't even say nothing back. He don't double-hearted. He don't even face the fucking music, the jerk. So I'm in there like, yo, I agree, Nate. Yo, yo, Nate, you right. But that's how it feels. I feel, Mark, you phony though. Well, self-admitted.

Yeah, yeah. As soon as this nigga reach out, yeah, yeah, yeah, yo, yo, I don't know why he said that.

Why he said that.

But if there's one— but if there's one area I consider myself to be somewhat educated in It's music, man. How my music guys— I can't say that the music guys is out there, man. 9th Wonder's listening. We can't shout to nothing. We can't say fucking Collide Davis, man. We talking to niggas who think Barry Gordy built all music, nigga. All sounds come from— and he was—

he said it in there.

He said, no, all music stems from— and Mark ain't even in there.

I'm a response.

I'm home reading.

I'm gonna respond.

I hate Mark.

I'm gonna respond.

I'm gonna respond.

I got something for him. I'll be like, you right. I would just pardon.

Damn.

Talk about a quitter.

That just pardon, just fly.

It'll get you out of a lot of shit though.

That just pardon.

That just pardon shit is nice.

It is. It is. How y'all feeling? Y'all good? I'm good. What Oklahoma City did, man. I'm so mad.

Big trade?

These niggas had a killer draft. I'm so tight.

Oklahoma City keep doing everything.

They had a fucking killer draft.

That's what y'all need to be scared of.

Everybody, I'm not scared of nobody, nigga. I'm the champ. What are you talking about? Watch your sixer mouth.

Why are you even—

I'm not scared of us. So we the fucking champs. We trying to retain our team. Everybody else out there is trying to match up. This is the first draft in the world where you've seen all these big men go. Everybody trying to get some size. I heard they saying it's for Wimby, but I mean, I think it's for us.

What'd you say? I heard y'all losing, so I heard Max might be going.

I heard you hear a lot of things out there, Mark. You gotta use your discernment. Yeah, I mean, got to see— my trust is in Leon Rose. Yo, shout out to Leon Rose, Worldwide West, Captain Brunson. I ain't gonna nick y'all to death. We did that shit in case you forgot. We absolutely—

it's baseball season, Joe. Let's move on.

World Cup season.

Yeah, WNBA season. All three.

True. Ghana lost, right?

I'm not that deep.

I don't know.

I know there is a World Cup. Exactly, exactly. I watched a little bit.

I went out, I watched the game a little bit. I keep it, I keep it on in the background while we're in the studio, but I don't know shit about football, soccer.

I gotta get over there and get down with that prostitution ring. I gotta get over there and find out who is working this thing. Send them to Wee Hawkin'. I think they just making this like a Rutherford thing, and this nigga's— yeah, I mean, it's money, it's money outside.

Step outside a little bit.

Yo, you see them Cape Verdeans on that screen?

I told y'all, that's the team.

They so fine, I, I thought they was AI.

I gotta say that that's one thing I did notice that, that the USA team is fucking up with. We don't bring the baddies out like we supposed to. No, the other countries, the baddies love football.

Well, here's the thing, yeah, they're, they're like, their first tier sport is soccer, right? So like, who comes to our NBA All-Star Weekend and our Super Bowl shit? That's what come to their soccer shit.

Yeah, we need to step it up for the World Cup, man.

That's what I'm saying. We gotta do something different.

Yo, US baddies, man, you gotta step outside, man. You gotta come out and rep for us.

Y'all doing the right thing.

Nah, go off the rack.

Pick all the sports. Leave them, leave them alone.

Why? There's mad money in fucking football.

I hear you.

Leave them alone though. Them Cape Verdeans, the Brazilians, the Colombians, some of them teams is—

Nah, we could figure out a nice route.

We could bring—

I hear you.

We could bring a nice squad.

It's gonna look like that versus.

I don't know, they took over Times Square. That's what I'm saying.

Cape Verdeans take over everything.

That's they hood now.

A lot of them.

That's their hood.

They got it.

I just found out we not going to Martha's Vineyard for vacation. One of my favorite things is catching up with my Cape Verdean community up there.

I know, that's right.

I'm sorry that you went through that.

Yeah, it's pretty hard.

I don't see how y'all do shit like that with y'all wives and don't try to flip some of them.

Purposeful silence.

We got a great show for you.

That might have been the best side. Don't worry, come on, I'm going to segue it in. Don't worry, I got this, I got this, I got this. Don't call us no more. This is the 5th time you called my application.

I got 10,000 applications I got to look at.

I'm stressed out. My phone been ringing back to back to back to back. I've been looking through all these applications for the past 8 months. You know what, what's your name? I'm going to look it up right now.

What's your name?

What's your name, dog?

Go ahead.

Okay, got your application right here.

Uh, let's see, Terrence.

Uh, don't see no degree on here, not qualified.

Don't see enough experience on here.

Not qualified.

No project portfolio.

Not qualified. I hope you got your answer.

Oh, did you get your answer?

Did you get your answer? And quit calling this phone. Oh my God, yo, you know about Brownstone, Joe? Come on now, man. Me? The Slow Jam King? Come on now, Mark.

Oh man.

Don't say nothing crazy, 'cause Brownstone might be listening.

I love Brownstone.

All right. All right now.

Jumping the DM on you.

Every verse.

Mic check, mic check, mic check. Brownstone, what up? We love you up here.

Yes, sir.

Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies.

Whoa.

How could you be a guy and not love Brownstone when they first dropped? You seen them fucking lips? You look into my eye. No, I didn't. I was looking at that mouth. That mouth. Goodbye, Jerome. And not without me. So wrong. Background. Hey. Something's up with Dean and Ron. Shout to wherever you might be listening from. Shout to all the subgroups out there, all the Patronis out there, all the parents out there. Hey, school almost over. I can't believe my kid is still in school.

I know. It's over now.

It's not over?

Today's the last day of school.

Oh, my gosh.

That don't make no sense.

Ours is Monday.

They graduated and go back to school. Yeah, no wonder I dropped out. Whole week, that's crazy. Yes, sir. It's my vibe right now. This my vibe. Late night in the car on the highway. Give me the aux, give me the aux. You know what I mean? Shout out to all the dope boys out there, all the entrepreneurs out there. Everybody getting money. Everybody at the airports. Everybody on vacation out there.

Hey.

All the happy couples listening to this shit, shout out to y'all. Shout out to you miserable motherfuckers too. It's divorce season. Don't sleep, don't sleep, do not sleep.

It goes— What else?

You in the car? Let me hear you out there.

Here you go.

Yummy, quiet storm.

All right, normally I'd have cut it off right there and started, but I love this guy's voice. I love this guy's voice. Too smooth. It's too smooth. Yo, some of these family genes are cheat codes, yo.

Yo, like the Edmonds?

Yes, nigga. You got cousins that sound like this and you got the greatest pen.

It ain't right.

What type of genetics are y'all doing? What type of oatmeal are y'all making over there? I open up Hulu, I seen a comedy special from somebody named Chantawn Wayans, a young lady. I never And I'm fucking her name up. But I never heard of this person, but I didn't need to. You didn't have to. This lady is a waning type of bitch. Who the hell is this?

I watch scary movies in jeans.

In jeans. You see it? Yeah, it's true. All right, y'all know what we starting with. Y'all know what we starting with.

I already know.

Oh, everything's not anything if you're not here to share my dream. You don't know what it means to me if you're next to me.

Woo!

I dedicate my love, my soul, my heart before any call to be. All right, all right, that was fine. I'm done, I'm done.

Just bring back memories.

That shit for me is like a Four Loco. That shit is like a 4-Hour Energy drink or some shit. Let me cut that off right there.

Goddamn.

Yeah, I ain't going to lie, when you you in the car by yourself and you hit that After 7 set, Ready or Not and Baby I'm For Real will do it to you.

You'll sing.

Keep this applause going for half of the best podcast crew in the world. Let's keep this applause going.

Who is that?

All right, what episode is this, Parks?

941.

What? These shits are flying. Yeah, man. What do y'all want to do for episode 1,000?

Turn the fuck up.

Yeah, I saw some people saying that we needed to be back in Parks' crib for that. Nah, sure, that's always an option.

Need to be live.

Live?

Oh, outside live? Like live show live?

Yeah.

Oh, okay. Oh, you mean live show like outside?

Yeah, nigga.

You thought I meant like channel live, nigga?

No, I thought you meant like livestream.

Like stream it.

I mean, we can do that too. It just need to be something— that's not a bad idea.

That's a great idea.

I would say let's be outside in front of an audience and livestream it, but just a livestream.

Livestream with the bitches, man.

So does real life.

A lot of—

but you're not going to be— you know, never mind.

Oh, brother.

Oh, I forgot, I forgot, I forgot.

He can't go outside no more unless 1,000 is in the next week, the next 5 days.

59 more episodes. What No, that's not true. In the great words of my baby, don't look at it like now you can't go outside anymore. Now you're just going outside as a couple. That's true.

That's true.

That's true.

That'll do it. And you gotta sit on the phone through some of this bullshit, like with a straight, oh man, baby, I love you and I can't wait. I can't wait to be fulfilled. Oh, you will be. I'm about to be fulfilled. I'm about to be.

Anyway, man, it's gonna be great.

Oh, I, I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. I look forward—

I haven't been able— what up, boy?

I look forward to it. What are you saying?

When is she coming?

Uh, a couple days. Yeah, a couple days. Okay. I don't want to give the weirdos on the internet exact dates.

Fair, fair, fair, fair, fair. But it's good, man. I can see the excitement in your face.

Can't wait.

Well, welcome to episode 941 of the Joe Budden Podcast.

Oh yeah, that's what I was doing. Episode 941 of the Joe Budden Podcast. Brought to you by Fuel, by Power, by PrizePicks. PrizePicks gang, I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely anxious and eager host, Joseph Anthony Budden Jr., here with some really amazing people. To my right, queens get the money, big queens. Flip is in the building. Flip, how you doing, man?

I'm feeling good, man.

Come on, man, on your own schedule a couple days before the contract end, man. Do what the fuck you want.

That's how I leave companies.

That's how I leave companies. I leave companies with my my balls on the table, nigga. Coming whenever the fuck I feel like it, nigga. Spill coffee all over this establishment. The fuck are they talking about? Anyway, Queens Flip is in the building. Next to him, our good brother, Philadelphia's finest, Dr. Marc Lamont Hill is in the building. Or what was my new, uh, the new name they gave you on in their streets? Uh, uh, Dr., uh, Marc Lamont Die on a Hill. That was a good one. That was a good, good, good one I read recently. Next to him, come on, stop playing with him. Stop playing with him. All that shit when he first got on the pod, blowing the ants off the microphone with the stupid children's hoodie on, that shit is dead. It's mafioso now. La familia. Get familiar, nigga. Big Freeze, Elizabeth's finest, Irvington's finest. I don't even know where he from. I never been to his house, but he rep a lot of hoods and a lot of niggas respect him in the street. Mr. Take It Further himself with the Reebok pumps on. Pump, pump, Big Freeze! That was a great intro.

That was a good intro.

He spoke that shit.

He did. That's good.

I think my girl moving in is gonna fucking get that. I think 10 new shows is coming. I think there's a new podcast energy that I'm coming to work with. I'm not playing, baby.

I can't wait till you get here.

Mad work. Oh yeah, nah, shows is coming. Shows is coming.

I was about to say, we ain't never leaving here. That's what I was thinking. Word.

I know y'all can leave. Y'all can go. Teach me how to cut some of this shit on. Speaking of teaching how to cut some of this shit on, come in, man. Y'all seen the DJ premiere of RZA Versus, man. Y'all seen it. Y'all seen his name in the credits if y'all still read credits. You've been to Elmira, ask around, nigga, when you get the store out there. Big Parks, Elmira's finest, is in the building. Yeah, Parks, how you doing, man?

I'm good, I'm good, feeling great.

Good, absolutely love that. Big Po is in the building. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, don't ever get that part fucked up. Each and every one of you guys are here. Make some noise for yourselves at home. What's up, y'all?

What's good?

What's popping?

What's popping?

What's popping?

What up? How you doing, man?

Hey, yo, I had a, I had a I had a real healthy adult conversation with Ian yesterday. Schwartzman? Schwartzman, yes, yes. Not Dunlap. Dunlap my man. Ian my man.

He got that money already in the bank. That Dunlap money.

Ian Schwartzman. Yeah, Ian Schwartzman. Healthy conversation. But now I think there's a trick going on. I see that the chairs are empty, so he wanted to save the conversation for Saturday to make sure I was gonna come in. Ian, you might have got me. I should have pushed the conversation last night, but it was very healthy. It was, you know, we on the same page. It looked looking promising. That was the guy.

How toxic are we as brothers when the positive conversations leave us with an ill feeling?

Because I came in, he was like, yo, you know what, let's continue this Saturday. You know, if you would have told me some shit, I mean, I'm not coming in tomorrow, nigga. I would have said that. I would have stood on my head. But he, he uses equity with me and his love. I love you. You know, I'm going through what I'm going through.

When you say I love you, that's when you about to get— oh yeah.

Shit, he got me. Well, no, Ish is running a little late.

Whatever, make sure you hear that.

Mona, if I'm not mistaken, should be at like an animal shelter speaking to—

like that.

Yeah, it was a very healthy conversation. It was mature. It wasn't like— when I think about it, because I have my notes, you know, I didn't record that conversation, but you know, I have notes. And to see the progress of how healthy it's gotten and how like, oh yeah, come on, I don't give a fuck, y'all niggas, fuck y'all, I'm not coming up there to— oh, I understand, this is what I want. And it was very healthy. Shout out to Ian.

Flip, ask your question. Is it likely, or at least a good chance, that you'll come back?

Because we— yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's likely. It's like—

well, I don't know, Joe, do you feel that way?

Uh, yeah, that decision is totally up to Flip. You know I want him back. You know I want Flip back.

I love Flip. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, we carry a boy because I don't want him to go nowhere. That's asking.

I'm not one of them people that like, I'll be back. Like, in a relationship, if I dealt with the worst of the headaches already, I'm not quick to throw you to the street so someone else can thrive with you.

That's, that's my philosophy.

I'm not.

Yeah, they gave me two options too, either sleep.

No, seriously, they said sleep.

They got different words they using, Mark.

Nah, yeah, I done been through the hard part already, so I'm not just— no, I want to stay and reap some of the benefits.

That's how I feel. Like, even in my, my other businesses, like, I'm This isn't about you, seriously. I got you. Like, like, I have like 10— like in my coffee shop, I have 10 baristas and 2 of them will be like mediocre. This is not a shot, I'm being clear.

Got you.

Like, um, and I used to want to fire the 2 and keep trying to get 2 better ones, but you never get 10.

Yeah.

So at least the ones you know, you can trust, you know how good they are, you know what they could do, because you recycle the next one, they'll be worse, or they'll fuck up the chemistry, or they'll fuck up the energy, or they'll do some other dumb shit, and then you end up starting over again anyway.

And to that point, I'm a fan of the headache I know. Versus the headache I don't. Because, you know, yeah, that's kind of what he said.

Yeah, yeah, because I did that before, then the two guys that brought it, stole money.

Put it right there.

First you guys made like bad coffee, the next two guys stole money. It's like, I would have had the guy who just made mediocre coffee.

That's why I put it right where I put it.

Leave him alone, nigga.

I understand, you know, but I'm on Mount Rushmore. Like, I put it there anyway.

No, I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, it was just healthy, and I'm good. I'm happy to be here, Parks.

Good, good.

We're happy to have you here.

We're happy to have you.

Straight, straight white men from now on.

Flip, oh Flip, so I was just telling them before you came, my wife told me that we're no longer going to Martha's Vineyard for the summer, which is—

I thought your wife was telling you something about tell Flip to shut the fuck up. Oh, my heart dropped.

I respect her so much.

Hey, bro, I love her so much.

If I reported back every time my wife said that, we wouldn't even—

I'm so dead.

She told me that instead we're going to Grenada.

Oh.

Did you email the dates?

I just—

I'm going to Grenada too, Joe.

It's tough. Just a quick Wednesday, Thursday trip.

August? I don't—

I'm going down there.

I'm going down there for Grenada Carnival.

We're going to avoid Grenada Carnival. Oh, okay. We're gonna go right after, I think, the 11th, whatever it is. Of course you'll be at Carnival.

Okay.

Yeah, I was gonna ask, is that— is that the spot to go to? Will I I've never been to Grenada, but the Caribbean is always beautiful.

You know, Caribbean is beautiful with your significant other.

Then the balls even to discuss it in front of— yo, is it beautiful up here?

When your boss come in and say, hey yo, what up y'all, look, I'm about to take the PJ and me and my girl, we about to go to Cabo for like 7 days, y'all niggas hold it down.

I ain't been nowhere with my girl in over a year and a half, and I'm hearing about it too now.

It wasn't— you mean like one-on-one? Just so—

yeah, yeah, just us without the kids. We went with the kids and then we went on a trip with all of the friends. That'll never happen again. Not y'all, I'm talking about before that. We went to, uh, with some other people that wasn't our group. I never did that shit. The nigga that was watching you again.

I don't even know that story.

Oh my God, no, no, it was a nightmare, Mark. It was an absolute nightmare. It was the worst trip.

He was watching you.

He's on the Reddit show like this. No, I remember this.

Oh shit.

Cory, fuck outta here.

We can't tell your people's business.

Nah, you gotta tell a little bit.

Tell Mark a little bit, yo. That shit was funny. Long story as short as I could possibly make it.

Oh, this is with the bad bed and all that, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For New Year's, last minute, we wasn't doing shit. So one of our good homegirls was like, yo, I'm gathering a group of friends. A couple of them you know, a couple of them you don't. We're gonna go to wherever the fuck. I don't even remember. I've erased this shit outta my brain.

But we went to, I don't know, somewhere.

Where, uh, for a trip. Airbnb got a house, and we was all gonna meet up there and have fun. So we get there— because they be listening to this shit, man. So we get— so we get there, one of the couples is fighting the whole time. One of the couples out there, I think we could see the lady in real time realize that, what the fuck am I doing with this clown-ass nigga, you know? Like, so we got that movie, uh, then we had some other single people in there that just was on my girl the whole time like uncomfortably—like awkward—that's weird—like awkward to the point where I had to say something. Oh you said something?

You ain't tell us! You said something?!

Yeah yeah he did—I thought I was gonna have to say so...

Toin' oh okay whoo no no no no no no no no I wouldn't do that. I spoke to Toyn about it but then—and the bed broke at some point—it's not a house that I necessarily would have been It was— I won't— it's got you. Actually, that trip is what birthed our fucking trip because I was like, I gotta do this but like the right way, with my friends, with the right— yeah, with the right people. Yeah, so I ain't— we ain't taking a trip in a while, that is all.

So you should do it this summer. You should. Yeah, just don't do my—

just don't do my week, but any other time.

We could go down for an episode and take— you know what I mean?

Oh, that's not a bad idea. You know what's funny about that too? And I thought about, fucking, if I had a solo show, I would come in here and go on this long rant about how at this time of the year, the year will kind of let you know, it will dictate its place in your life by this point. By going on July, the year is letting you know exactly what type of time the universe is on with you. Yeah. So in this, whatever the universe is doing to me I could see how broke I am until February with all the things that need to happen between this show or this house or this birthday gathering. Like, it's all— it's all— so I'm— and I'm strapped while she talking about, oh, we never had a vacation. We're gonna have to wait a little bit, honey. Yeah, we got shit going. This year is mapped out already. I'm in January. This year's— this done.

Sorry, I told my wife the same thing.

We're good till February, which happens to also be tax time.

So, right, that's the thing. So maybe next June.

No, tax time for me is September. Oh, okay. Oh, it's quarterly. Oh, okay. And it just left. I don't have no— they— it's there. They got me. Yeah, they got me.

I told my wife the same shit.

They got me.

Then she sent me the dates for Grenada.

Like, this what we doing, right?

I heard you. I heard you, right?

Yeah, yeah, cuz they feel like if you're a real man, make it happen, bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think they feel like that about us sometimes?

Yes, yes, all the time.

No, that's all, all the time. My wife is texting me to my— I got to write her a love letter. She can't write me a love letter.

That's what the— she be watching—

that's not the same conversation at all.

Listen, don't disrespect my wife and her love letter, nigga. I'm talking about you. I love that, that she wrote, that she told me that that. But also, she's been talking about this Hawaii trip that she's been wanting to go on for years, since I was broke.

Write the love letter on a nice picture of Hawaii. Exactly.

Start with aloha and just text me a paragraph from it. I just got it. I just gotta read what your sauce is for like 30.

Hey yo, you dodging here.

No, honestly, no, for real. I got something to question here, bro. No, we'll get—

and we'll get to that.

But for right now, if I used it, I would go to ChatGPT right now and say, what would Flip Flip's love letter.

She told me that she came in the room, she said, y'all, would you write me a love letter? I said, huh? I listen to the radio and we— people miss, uh, the simple things in life. In my head I'm like, have you ever written one before? Years ago when I was younger. To her? Or like in high school? I'm saying I did, I did write one to her. Yeah, when I was younger.

Just one question, one more question, because I don't want to get— what would—

what is— make my wife—

no, I respect your wife fully, fully. We love her, we love Sure. What's the first sentence of your love letter?

Now, here's the thing. I'm not gonna give you the first sentence, but I will tell you what she doesn't like. She doesn't like when I reminisce on the struggles we went through.

Yeah, you shouldn't do that.

You just had a love letter.

I did that a lot. You do that a lot? Yeah. Ew. Yeah. That's a horrible love letter. No, that's not the love letter.

Oh, you helped me down when I used to be a piece of shit. Right. You helped me with them 3 years. Yo, you stayed through some shit. I ain't gonna hold you, yo. Nobody else would've stayed.

They got it.

With the 3 hoes.

Hold up, hold up. We laid on the couch, on the floor, all that shit.

I keep bringing it up. Time out. Ice has ChatGPT'd the Queens Flip love letter to his wife.

ChatGPT, if Queens Flip were to write a love letter to his wife, how would it go? Okay, it starts, it says, to my queen, you know what's crazy? The world sees me yelling, joking, arguing, dancing on tables, doing all the wild stuff. That's entertainment.

They be smoking shit.

But the real me, the real me is the man who comes Home to you.

Like, they smoking at you. Like, like, that's a prize. Oh shit, I get the real you. All right, now you eating. That's the— they, they, they, it's—

they wrote a long—

ChatGPT be smoking that shit. They do. I'm impressed.

They do. I used that shit one time and it was so good I didn't use it no more.

Here's the thing real quick.

I didn't think it was an issue to— I, I just wanted— while I was doing that, or what I would remind her, I was just showing I didn't forget where we came from. But at some point she got tired of it. I'm tired. We overcame the fighting. I'm tired. She told me that one day, and I kind of got offended, like, what? However, I see, you know, this was a couple of years ago, like about 6, 7 years ago she said that. Like, you always write what we went through. You think I want to remember that? But it's like, why wouldn't you want— this is where we come from, humble beginnings. That's how I look at it. What do you think she wants to she hear?

Good shit.

Uh, I guess in particular, yeah, I got you.

But to me, I think she wants to hear in the now. I love you. I love who you are now.

The future. I like you.

Yeah, the future. Yeah, the future. Yeah, I don't think she wants to hear that old shit. I thought that the old shit would keep me grounded, but apparently it doesn't.

That's dope, man. They just be wanting to feel acknowledged, man. That's all.

Yeah, that's all. Write that letter, man. So y'all doing the Hawaii trip though? I am going to take her to Hawaii.

I do plan— she's been I've been procrastinating for years. My daughter pressed me about it. Like, you going all these places, my daughter. Like a wedding.

You gotta put the tickets in there, you know what I mean, with the love letter.

I'm gonna take it to Hawaii.

Yeah. Oh, that's— yo, we just— write the letter, you're gonna book my Hawaiian trip, and just put the tickets in there.

Yeah, you go to Expedia. Oh, that's not a problem. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

I think we solved good flips like that.

Well, we did. We got you, right? We did it. It pains me to have to do this. 10 minutes, y'all. I'm not spending a whole bunch of time on them. Promises.

You cleaned it up quick. They are pretty Ricky, like the King's Guards, nigga, dressed up like that. And they molly whopped them niggas. Go get Pleasure P mad, yo. Amari, you my man, I speak to you on the phone. I have nothing bad to say about you. However, yo, are you crazy?

I missed it.

First off, it fucked me up because they dropped like Haymaker as song Nice. And I was like, interesting strategy, because you know, people try to say the— they drop jokers. I'm talking about, yeah, they running spades out the gate. Slow down.

Oh, go ahead, slow down. Go ahead. Maybe we will spend a few seconds. Okay, maybe we'll spend just a couple seconds on this. These two groups hate each other. Oh, and have hated each other for quite some time. Now, I'm not saying that they're not friendly and cordial or have relationships musically, but musically, it's a musically this is a thing. Sure. And as the battle went on, you started to see even how the fans were talking. Like, one girl described it as, yo, the, the fucking, uh, B2K music is like for the girls that lived in the suburbs, and the Pretty Ricky music is for the girls that like lived in Nana house and was sneaking niggas in. One girl said B2K music is like when you have a crush on a boy and you're about to ask him out for the first time. And Pretty Ricky music is when you getting finger banged in the back seat. No, seriously, right? So, so then as the night went on, people were saying, yo, B2K should have went against O-Town. Damn, B5. No, but seriously, it was bad. So now, so now I'm outside on the phone phone dealing with fucking all types of bullshit, but I got the TV on loud.

B2K comes out, they look great. Sure, they do. Shout out to them. The outfits, the black, all that black sequins, whatever the fuck they was wearing, the different versions of it, they looked like a current R&B. They looked great. But Pretty Ricky looked like throwback great. Like, Pretty Ricky had the all red on. They look like they could have been the pop and R&B group in the '60s, '70s, '80s, '90s, and probably stop there. But the outfit spoke. They were loud. I'm paying attention. This whole— this is a night of about expression, so I'm looking at everything. B2K starts with Girlfriend. Okay, to Ice's point about bangers, to me that was a bad sign. Like, you gotta unload Paul's Girlfriend round 1 against Pretty Ricky. They went first, B2K. Well, this is the other mistake, Parks. They flipped the coin. Oh, and B2K won. And Trick Daddy said, all right, y'all won. Who do y'all want to go first? And B2K, arrogant, said, we going first. Huge mistake. Huge mistake. So they started with Girlfriend win on some arrogant shit. B2K right off the bat, uh, fucking, um, the shit, the hit, the hit. What's the hit?

Nothing.

Grind With Me. I mean, Pretty Ricky came right—

Grind With Me. Yep. Neutralize that one. One zero, one zero B2K. Yeah, no, one zero. I mean, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. One zero Pretty Ricky. Yeah, B2K comes back with with Uh-Huh. Uh, that's that upbeat record. Yeah, that shit. Girl, you messed up when you're down. And now I was, I was like, I'm on Def Jam at this time when B2K is the hottest thing in the world. Yeah. So it's clear, like, they doing the new edition for younger people. They got all the hit songmakers, all the hit beatmakers, all the hit marketing, everybody involved with 2K was them. Them. Yeah. Pretty Ricky was always the hottest shit regionally that kind of then took off. So we have that here in Versus yet again, the big machine versus what's bubbling regionally. And they put that Uh-Huh shit on and Pretty Ricky came back. Your body with Your Body. Night Night. Damn. 2-0 Pretty Ricky. Yeah. So now B2K has jokes. It was jokes all night. Yes, it was jokes. They were being chippy. But it was— it started chippy and it just continued to be chippy. It was jokes and they was funny.

They was funny. B2K was like, all right, they should be out of song soon. They should be like— they Juwel Santana'd themselves. They did that because— and boy was it a mistake.

It was.

It was a bad— so they said, yeah, these guys, these brothers should be running out of point soon. And then B2K, they, they kept going. And all of these songs, again, to how it aged, it— they all sounded like teeny bopper. Well, they were. But how it sounds today, how it sounds compared to Pretty Ricky coming from Grove, Minnesota at this point, that's my point. Yeah, they didn't have— none of it sounded hard. And you need hard at some point, and it all sounded very soft. Gotcha. So while they were hard in their appearance with the Black Jodeci, everything else was soft, soft, soft. By the time they did track 2, I said, oh, they gonna have a long night, because they all was kind of rapping this song. I'm like, yo, are these 4 rappers? None of these are singing. They just all kind of rapping and ad-libbing and screaming over each other. Oh, they pointed out— and we said Pretty Pretty Ricky performs better than these niggas. So now if B2K is just gonna highlight their own shortcomings, Pretty Ricky's not.

Then they start shortening the songs. They even got to that. They were— yeah, they was just like, yo, we just doing a half a verse.

Oh, hey yo, it got so bad that Ras B came in the middle and started to think that, yo, I want to thank y'all and thank God, out of nowhere.

And what song? No, no, no, it wasn't the third. It wasn't the third because there was signs throughout this bad title. It was early that B2K was losing it. Like, the Spurs, they were losing confidence gradually as this night went on. Because like Flip said, at some point, maybe 5 or 6 songs later, a song came on and Amar'e and the rest of the group was like, nah, nah, stop it, let Raz spit a little something, let Raz give him a little something first. So then Raz B gets to the middle of the stage And he said— he sounded beautiful. He said something beautiful.

He sounded beautiful.

Yes, he did. He sounded absolutely— he said some shit that sounded heartfelt. He was like, yo, y'all know about some of my battles I've been going through. Just for— it's a miracle for me to even be standing here. Sounds like a flip love letter. Yada yada. It was very heartfelt. But the fact that you doing that right this second is not coming off like that. It's coming off like pity. Oh, you trying to pull out every trick in the book. Oh boy, this is gospel at the Apollo. That's, that's what this is. And then you had the nerve to— whatever song they played after that, Razz B was the lead. What a mistake. Whatever song they went to, a song, some song I had never heard, Razz B was the lead vocalist on this song. Bad, bad, bad sign. Hey, hey, later on they played another song that Fizz was the lead on. They pointed it out bad. I mean, not for J-Boog, somebody, somebody that shouldn't have been the lead was the lead. I'm like, oh, if we get into that part, man, I said B2K ain't got but so many albums. They only got 2 albums.

2 albums. 2. Yeah, 2. And then as the night went on and the confidence was dwindling, you started to see— because Pleasure P kept saying, yo, y'all can't even sing. That's all. Like, you can't sing none of these songs. Then he started singing one of they songs. Oh, shit.

Yeah. Right in the middle of the stage.

And then the Maroon came out like he was about to have a sing-off, but he never hit a note. Like, he let Pleasure P just do—

But he kept telling them, like, "Yo, you can't do this, though. Sing. Let's sing right now. How about that?" Oh, so he was shitting on them.

Yo, right now.

Just sing. Yo, pause. He walked over there and started to sing in their ears while they was huddling. That's crazy. He's just doing disrespectful shit all night.

Yeah, so then, so then, so then you could see, yes, B2K and them start to, like Flip said, huddle. Got to. Mind you, Pretty Ricky, when they performing, is they playing dominoes and drinking Henny.

They got a table.

No, they got a table on the side with they back turned. Them niggas no more playing cards.

See, I'm, I fuck with that. It was so fly, yo.

Yeah, it was, it What they, they was out ordering, they was out ordering these niggas. They had Trick Daddy over there. Everybody on that Florida side was wearing red. Florida, Florida. So they all in Florida, niggas was wearing red. Yeah, Pretty Ricky had, uh, had something with some ass and tits over there too. I always appreciate that as a viewer. As a viewer watching at home, I'm gonna give a point to whoever got tits and ass with them.

They had something over there. And B2K, they just, they just didn't—

they just didn't. Huh? They had Lizzo though. They shout out to Lizzo. Even that, uh, Pretty Ricky starts saying, yo, hey dog, they gonna need Lizzo to come out and do a song. They running out of—

not the best time either for that, respectfully. Hold on, Lizzo just sold 5,000 albums.

Fox, why did they do that? Lizzo did the ad-lib part in, um, did she do the flute? Sounded crazy.

She didn't bring the flute out?

No, she just sounded crazy with that la la la la la part, whatever the fuck that part was. Sounded horrible. Damn. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking. They're like, yo, Lizzo, do it! That's desperation.

So it's getting so bad, bro, I stopped keeping the score.

I got the scorecards.

I, I stopped keeping score at one point. I put this shit on mute and just started— I didn't, I didn't— it was too bad. It was too much of a murder that I was witnessing. I didn't want to— I love B2K. I wasn't trying to view them in that, in that light, but what was going on was absolutely— at one point, Spectacular goes to the front of the crowd. Oh, I'm not talking about that shit he did. I'm on— you're talking about the girl that was in the front? Yeah, he goes to one of the B2K fans in the front. He said, look at you, you've been here this whole night. You got this, you got them on your shirt. No, yeah, you want— you, you go— they on your shirt. None of them walk.

Nobody here.

None of them acknowledge you. Look at them over there, they just, they just been ignoring you. Who grabbed your hand? Pretty Ricky got it. So then Razz B gonna come over and try to say something. He like, nigga, don't say nothing to her. Don't say nothing now, you been ignoring her the whole night. Don't, don't say nothing now. What else happened that was funny? It was too much funny shit. Oh, so now because this is so funny, I just tweet randomly, yo, just do Icebox, man, this is so bad. Because at one point they started doing— they came out and said And I felt bad. I needed to fly there and do Pump It Up. They came out and was like, all right, y'all, who seen motherfucker Stomp the Yard?

What's the movie? You Got Served. Who seen You Got Served? Y'all know this, right?

They don't know that we grew up, yo. We not— this ain't the millennial tour. You in LA and this whole crowd is singing Pretty Ricky B-sides. Oh shit. And Pretty Ricky know it, so at the end of every song they have a nigga play a banjo. Just a regular string, and they sing, and all you hear is the audience. So if you at home and you don't know this song, watching this, you can see what it was. Well, and the songs are hard. Yeah. And they sound better. They aged better. And these niggas rap better than whoever the B2K rapper is, and the singer sings better than— and the songwriters— B2K started trying to say, hey, we got Troy Taylor over here. That's how you know it's getting bad. They start shouting out Troy. Yo, Troy, we about to go to our Troy Taylor bag. Uh, Pretty Ricky was like, go ahead, we have Troy Taylor records. Like, talk to Troy, we have— oh, you don't know our catalog? We're gonna play a Troy record too. It was bad. So they played a record from You Got Served. Okay, not okay. Big mistake. They playing some shit from the soundtrack.

When they got back on stage, yo, y'all don't know that song. I don't know them songs.

It was like the only niggas that knew his song was his kids. Look, I'm the only ones who say that.

Then he brought his kid on stage. Mario brought his kid on stage.

Shout out to Mario.

Yo, this was one of the— this was bad. Yo, this was bad. This is, this is Dipset, LOX, no Fab, Jadakiss.

It seems worse. It's worse than all that.

No, it's bad. So, you know, you know, this was a murder. No, 18-0 was the official score. You know, Complex keeps the track. Okay, 18-0 was the score. And you know, they do record for record, they show the percentages. There was not a pretty— I'm looking at the whole shit— there was not a Pretty Ricky song that got under 60% of the vote for that round.

Oh, so it was a molly whopping. It was real bad.

This was the worst—

it was real bad washing I've ever seen in the verses.

I was gonna watch it later, bro.

I might skip this one. I mean, what you see is that—

no, it's funny.

I want to watch it for the bloodbath now.

Okay, I think what I've learned is that without knowing the history or whatever, is that, you know, B2K, Pretty Ricky, they're in tune. They're, you know, they're in tune with each other. Yeah, B2K is not. B2K is not in tune. They're not on the same page. Sounds like Dipset locks.

Yeah, exactly, like he just said. Well, a lot of group dynamics unfortunately are gonna experience that, and, and Pretty Ricky highlighted it. Like Omarion, I told you, I tweeted he should do Icebox. Then he does Icebox. I wanted to say I was joking, nigga. So he started doing his solo records, and Pleasure P is like, hey buddy, they not here for Marlon solo records, they not here for Pleasure P solo records. This is B2K, Pretty Ricky. But I know you having trouble staying with your group. Actually, probably when this Versus is over, you about to leave them niggas again, ain't you? Oh shit. Nah, they was cutting a rug. Damn.

Yeah, um, Pleasure P had did a, um, a live with Bow Wow because Bow Wow was like orchestrating all of this as they were trying to, you know, before they announced the verses. And he was like, yo, this ain't Omarion versus Pleasure P. I'm not doing no solo records.

This is group versus group.

We here for the group. He was like, and if he start doing solo records, that means we know y'all down bad and we walking off the stage. We out.

Damn. It. And he did Icebox. He did Icebox. And they were down bad.

They was down bad.

It did nothing. It was— they ran out of records long before Pretty Ricky ran out of records. Then, long, a long time before, Omarion tries to save it and start doing solo records. Pleasure P got a little tote. It may not be a big duffel. He didn't have to go in it, but he got a little dope, but he didn't go in it.

Nah, I think he did the up.

He was like, I'm gonna let this ride. He didn't do Boyfriend number 2. He did not go in his bag. He did up. He did up just as a, all right, I'm gonna get— I'm gonna do one, but I didn't even touch my bag.

He's saying the same thing. I'm saying, what a chess move. I beat it, beat it up in the bay. I mean, in LA. Maybe this your song. All my ladies in the club tonight. Omarion, I'm sorry, go home. Omarion, he would have had to start doing what's the shit with Janae. He might— he did that. He did Post to Be.

Jesus. But by then they're walking off the stage like family.

I perform your— by then you would have Janae out to like have a baby. We had to do some magic.

She has to do— yo DJ, you got Post to Be queued up? Like, wait, what? Right, it was bad, yo, it was bad.

I like that new record though.

Oh my God, it was fire. I'm sorry, this is how you know it was going bad.

No, no, I like the record too.

I like the—

let me be— I like the record in, in real life. Like, like if I'm in my car tonight by myself, I'll put that record on and have a blast. That's a hard record. Yes, it is debuting that record during Versus while you're getting your ass whooped. But it's called Maledge, and it's about, we don't care how many niggas you done fucked, come over here and get loved. While the theme is you got all these boy toy sounding— all these Pretty Ricky songs is about action, nigga. Somebody tweeted, somebody was like, unfortunately Pretty Ricky does have the songs to do all of this. You know, you know the famous, hey, ain't no song in the world make this nigga do this. But they got the dog, it's finger banging, it's finger banging, long short stroke, fucking outside public places, voyeurism, uh, what's up, exhibitionist. Yeah, exhibitionist. Bishin' and shit, I can't even talk to that. It was a— all the— Yurtin' like, huh? What? Come on, man, get these niggas out of here. Then they played some other song that fucking— I had— that I— damn, I don't even know the name. One of them songs, I was hearing it kind of for the first time, and that shit sounded like a smash.

And clearly the audience knew it because they put the banjo out at the end. Every word. And the audience was like It was one of them call and responses that's just so fly. Pleasure P was saying something and then in the background saying, "Aye, aye, aye, aye." I'm like, yo, pack B2K up. They can go. This is, this is a clinic in song making, performing, uh, showmanship, everything, group dynamics. Uh, this was just an absolute—

even they beat him in banter, like in, in every aspect of the board. He's like, yo, y'all got the all black on perfect for y'all.

Funeral. Yeah, you just—

yeah, it was on they ass, bro.

They ain't eat no chips or nothing, right?

Oh no, no. Yes, brother there in the balcony on the side.

That's what he needs. That wouldn't have worked. Nothing would have worked last night.

They'd have had to call R. Kelly out there. I'm about to buy the Best of Pretty Ricky so fast.

You think I ain't buying the Best of Pretty That show they put on last night, then they tried to hit him with a low blow.

Yo, yo, Wiz, look him at Wiz. I ain't like that. We don't care. I ain't like that.

It was too late, but it was too late.

It was just bad.

It was over. But I ain't like that. Like, now you mad, so you just gotta try to get a hit, get a hit off.

Yo, if I'm performing my song and a nigga start playing dominoes with his back to me, I might hit him. That was so smooth how they was just playing them. Niggas.

It was like, wait, what? We over here playing Tump. What'd you say?

Oh, it's our go? All right, hold on, hold on, take another shot real quick.

After one of them Fizz records, Pleasure P and them came on stage, they was like, I ain't gonna hold you, they don't even do that one on tour. Yeah, we never heard— they never heard that. We toured with them, they don't do that one, y'all. They don't know that song. They just added that to the mix. No, no, the band was A1. It was.

Maybe I will watch it. Well, that's the one thing about Versus I like is it forces you to, or reminds you how dope somebody is, or somebody you didn't appreciate fully. I didn't appreciate Pretty Ricky fully just because of the time period. I'm gonna go back and listen to all that shit now.

That's another reason I know we ain't Eskimo Brothers.

I was fucking him then while he was listening to Pretty Ricky. We gonna reveal this at some point. Oh, you're gonna do the Eskimo reveal? Yeah, maybe the end of next month.

I can't wait. Shit, maybe today.

Joe's telling me then Pretty Ricky got the—

not Pretty Ricky, B2K got the nerve to drop new music after that debacle.

I thought it was just O, or did they drop—

no, they both did. Omarion put out a project, an EP that you spoke about, and, and they— B2K put out a single, Maledge.

Oh, okay, not, not so great.

I like the record.

Okay, I didn't hear no Mariah shit.

I like that. But, but the song is a microcosm of what all of their critics say about— it's just, it's not a strong vocal. Oh, it's kind of reliant on the beat sample and music. Like, it's—

they even, they even tried to address that though, the fact that, uh, people be saying that about their music. Like, yeah, we make grown music too. 'Oh yo, drop that!' And nobody knew the song, bro.

No, they did know that song, but the problem is it didn't work. That was kids doing grown music, and that's one of their bigger songs. That was one of my favorite songs, 'Gotta Be.' See, and that's why they were saying listen to the lyrics.

Maybe it was 'Gotta Be.' I thought it was another record, but still, would B2— what would Pretty Ricky follow up with? Yeah, it don't matter.

I didn't even see no new song on their page.

I got you, I got you. Let me B2K. Yeah, we gonna get to that new shit.

This dropped tonight. I was like, oh no, not while you down. I don't see it. Not while you're down. Maybe they changed their mind. Let's go rework that for a little bit.

Damn. Yeah, I don't see it here. Oh, not a bad song though. Anyway, the song was cool. Uh, shout out to all participants. That was fun.

That, that was fun.

I had a good night staying in the house. It was fun. And we nailed it.

We nailed that 10-minute thing for sure.

Yeah, but we kept it shorter than normal. Yeah, yeah, we know. What else, what else, what else, what else is going on?

Talk about music and stuff. Um, y'all see the challenge that Big Daddy Kane got going?

Yeah, I did. I absolutely love it.

I love it.

I love this, uh, Barz Open. Yeah, I don't know what he's calling it.

I guess he's got a 16-bar version and an 8-bar version.

And then he, he's calling out certain folk and they responded.

Saw Conway do one. I saw, I saw Jadakiss do on, saw a special, asking for the beat. You want to get his lick back, I'm not mad.

I think that's doing a little, a little too much. Why? Because now I look like you chasing it. Like, you said what you had to say, okay cool, Kiss bodies it, and now you immediately jump online calling for the beat.

But he said some shit that I could be taking as a sign.

I know, I know.

But to be clear, uh, don't— but you—

when it's an open challenge like that, don't ask for the beat. Let the person that's issuing the challenges— like, he called out Conway, he called out Kiss. Yeah, let him call you out. You just look a little thirsty when you— yo, let me get the beat. Well, dog, we wasn't— if he, he'd have gotten to you if he wanted to throw the ball your way. Don't call for it. That's all I'm saying.

You know, Special Sparks, man. Yeah, I understand Special Sparks, man.

But they've had their back and forth on, on, um, on Instagram. Kiss, I think— I forgot what it was. There was a a, you know, a Clipper page saying something about Spesh thinks he's one of the best, and Kiss was in there saying, yo, he is. Like, he could say that. He should say it. Something along them lines.

I'm just talking about solely from him, the comments about the feature verse make it look like Kiss is ducking. Now Kiss do that, now you call— it just looks a little, a little, a little thirsty. I think they have— looks a little thirsty.

Ballsy. Yeah, it's, it's a ballsy move, I'll tell you that one. Spesh, go ahead and get in that verse and say anything that, that could, could make, uh, Mr. Kiss have a, have a—

I mean, Kiss was throwing shots in his verse.

He did. Well, I—

yeah, but I feel like he— that's the response to a shot that was sent at me, right? Or one that could be perceived that way. All I'm saying is, because I like, I like everybody involved. Yeah, be careful playing with these niggas that's top 15, top 10 men of all time. Yeah, they older now, so they on some healthy shit. They non-violent. I think that's when they most dangerous.

Older now, I'm chilling. I ain't— now I got time. You don't want to get a killer, Tom.

Nah, these things be older, just be wanting to be with their family. Joe and Jada just did a Father's Day episode with their kids. It's— yeah, that was dope. Like, like, niggas don't really want to go in in the booth and, and all it has to go in your— to, to write what you need to do. Nobody really wants that. Exactly. It's like when that nigga decide to go in the booth, when Jean Gray does that Super Phoenix shit, like, she get a migraine. Like, the rest of the world feel it, but she be fucked up for a little bit. So I mean, it's exhausting is all I'm saying. Which leads me to another quick question about nothing that we talking about that I wanted to ask y'all. If I saw this floating around the internet, I just thought it was interesting. If you could fuck one superhero to get their powers, who would it be and why?

There's only about so many.

June, what were you going to say?

I'm sorry, it's Pride Month. That's true. So if you want to fuck Colossus, be my guest.

That's what I say, cuz like some of y'all want Batman's powers.

What Batman powers? Money. It's just money. He got the powers. Batman powers. You just going to be a prostitute. Buy a yellow belt, you can do it.

The money, that's what he's saying.

My man, um, I actually already have his powers. Turns out, right, his powers just white privilege.

Oh shit, oh shit, that was good, that was good. I don't even have to fuck. That was good, that was good, that was, that was, that was a good one. Oh shit. Um, I can't name— I'll get mine out the way just, just cuz I just said it. I'll go Jean Gray. Because she'll kill all y'all if she get really mad. And honorable mention, I'll say Rogue just because I always wanted to pop Rogue. Yeah, and Storm I wanted to pop too.

I think you said all the girls you with.

No, no, just Rogue and Storm and Jean Gray.

3.

I didn't want to pop Jean Gray, I just want her power.

But you had to pop her in order to get her power.

Yeah.

If I say Catwoman, can it be the Anne Hathaway version?

You're such a bitch. Halle Berry version. Catwoman. I just want to fuck— I say Mystique.

That's what I was thinking, but yeah, Mystique. I'm going Scarlet.

I don't know that one.

The blue one, the blue one, shapeshifting. She always been sexy. Uh, see, the Sue Storm, she'll kill y'all though.

Which one was Scarlett Johansson? Scarlett Johansson was— I think Black Widow. That's the one.

So we just want to fuck all the girl superheroes, what it sounds like.

Wonder Woman, nigga.

Wonder Woman. Yeah, yeah.

I just wouldn't tell you. Yes, he would. I don't know who you fooling.

What was Wonder Woman power? Superpowers, nigga. She like super strength. She was like Superman.

She just knew He-Man, right?

No, right? Amazon Superman. She-Ra.

I'm talking about the She-Ra. Wonder Woman was Superman's sister or some shit, right? No.

Who was Wonder The woman, I thought it was Superman's girl. Yeah, she was like that. Oh no, that's Lois Lane.

She was an Amazon warrior princess.

Amazonian.

Yeah, but her power was she was cool with Superman or somebody. Yeah, that's not her power. Yes, it was.

She has strength and she has the lasso.

Her strength was calling somebody.

No, it was not. That's Lois Lane.

No, I used to watch these shows. You can't tell. I did. My memory is bad. Wonder Woman had a cartoon. By minute— by minute 19, she was getting fucked up in every episode until she made it to press. And then it's He-Man or somebody will come save her. Pack her the fuck up. Are you crazy? Wonder Woman wasn't about nothing, man.

Scarlet Witch— what was Aquaman's— was it Mera? Who? Who was Aquaman's woman? Uh, the woman— I don't know.

Wonder Woman powers is super Strength, speed, stamina, durability, senses, agility, and reflexes. Nigga, watch your mouth. She's basically He-Man.

I mean, Superman.

So that means she's strong for a woman. I think it's a good time, but I'm joking though. Oh my God. But anyway, it's time for my favorite part of the show, Price Bae. All right, it's a scorching sports summer and you can make all your picks on PrizePicks. The WNBA and baseball are heating up and every game in soccer's biggest tournament is getting more and more important. Football. Go ahead. Yeah, they said soccer. Yeah, you got to be careful, bro. Be careful. Got to be. It's football. It's football. Hey, when they in town, football.

Yeah, yeah, it's their shit. Move over.

It's football. Uh, with big tennis slams And major golf tournaments on the horizon, there's no better place for all your summer sports picks than PrizePicks, America's number one sports picks app. All right, our brother Ish is not here and he lost last week with his picks, but let's see what— how Ice does. Let's see what Ice has here. Big Freeze is going with, uh, De'Ariqah Hamby for more than 7.5 rebounds. Uh, Khaleah Cooper for less than 20.5 points. Uh, Camila Cardoso for more than 8 rebounds. And Kelsey Mitchell for less than 28.5 points, rebounds, and assists. Okay. And if you see something out there that says Caitlin Clark will take a knee to the face, then I'd put something— I'd put something on that too. They are giving my girl a hard time. That's my white woman thing on this second.

Still beating up, Mom?

They are beating the brakes off.

If you don't turn up, you turn up, Mom.

And they didn't put her in the little promo ad thing that they did. They didn't put— do you know about that? Yeah, they better be careful fucking with that white lady. Um, anyway, download the app right this very second, and please, pretty please, please, please, please, please, I beg, I prom— please, yo, I swear on everything, please use promo code JBB to get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 line lineup only on PrizePicks, the official partner of the NBA. Indeed.

Since we just talked about WNBA, I do have my— I need— there's two white women I need to cape for today.

That's exactly what we need right this second. Get them, Mark. White pie.

First, you start to itch when you say that.

Look, all right, Ninth Wonder's listening.

No, this Caitlin Clark shit is, is crazy, man. It's absolutely wild, man. First of all, I don't— I'm balanced on the Caitlin Clark issue. I am very balanced on the Caitlin Clark issue because I think there's two extremes. There's people who worship her, and they often are the white power people. Some of them don't even watch WNBA and they fuck with her, you know what I mean? Just 'cause— and then there's people who hate her irrationally. Got it. I think you can have a balanced, fair opinion on her, which is she is an asshole, she is obnoxious, she does complain to the refs too much, she does whine, she does trash talk, but I'm cool with that. There's plenty of players who do that. But that foul she took— well, they not only fouled her hard but then she took the— I mean you see a fist in the face now some of that shit is AI and they added the smile and all that but the actual hard-ass foul was crazy. The league eventually made it up, made it a flagrant 2 and suspended uh what was Alyssa? Uh no no no no no mistake just a mistake so there's a joke no but um but yeah it's It's, um, oh, that was just a little, you know what I mean?

Yeah, but it's the fact that they ain't call it. I don't have a problem with hard fouling somebody who talks shit, who's obnoxious, but just call it, you know what I'm saying?

Just call it. They ain't see it.

Her hand just slipped down there.

Yeah, just shoulder. I don't think— I don't agree that it's that they hate straight women. I don't think it's they hate white women and they're doing it to play. All that is too extreme. It's just she's the face of the league. They got to do better with that. This year, the WNBA is doing so well. I mean, you got got people— Angel Reese hitting records, you got, uh, you got Olivia Miles coming out the gate smoking. I mean, there's a lot of dope shit happening in the, in the WNBA, but if they don't manage the superstar shit too much, it's just gonna go too crazy. That shit with the, uh, with Caitlin and the— and her not being on the ad, the WNBA 30th ad, that's actually not the league's fault. She has a licensing deal where they won't lend her license out, her likeness out. That's why she's not on it. That's why Sue Bird's not on it, and that's why Um, there's another, uh, Terasi's not on it. Damn, Terasi's not on there. So, but it started on the internet as, uh, they're keeping all the white people off the WNBA list, or they're keeping all the, you know, all the people that we like off the list.

It's actually not that, but that's the problem. When you make one— when they're irresponsible in one way, it opens the door for fans to start making up conspiracy theories about, about what's going on in the league. And just real quick, one more, one more white woman I need to cater for.

Go ahead, have at it.

I'm— enough on Becky. It's like, we— look, she said that Jalen Brunson, who y'all have heard of, I think, is— wasn't a 1A guy and that they weren't going to win the championship because little guys don't win championships as the 1A. Was it a wrong take? Yeah, it was wrong because they won. Was it a bad take? I would say no, it's just a wrong take. Like, you know what I mean? Like, 3 people have done it ever— Steph, Isaiah, and her, right? But, but give— whatever. Sports are filled with wrong takes and bad takes. We give bad takes up here all day, every day, for sure.

And people remind us of our bad takes every time we give them. Yes.

And when you give a bad take, you should be like, you know what, that was a bad take, or I was wrong, I fucked up. But with Becky— I hate that her name is Becky because it sounds like extra caping because the name is Becky. Yeah, only Karen would be worse.

But it's like, and it's like 15 minutes long.

This is it, this is it right here.

It's a long cape.

It's just like, yo, don't ask for an apology. Like, it's one thing to say, like, say you wrong, but people like, we want her to apologize, we want her to have like get on the microphone and apologize. I don't think you should have to apologize. And when you look at all the people that said the same shit in the league, nobody's being asked for an apology but Becky Hammond. I don't think it's because she's white, I think it's because she's a woman, personally. But I, I think I think it's too much. Like, leave that shit alone. Just let people give bad takes and own it. You know what I mean? Bad— her own press conference for her team? Come on, man. It's too much.

Well, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news to your little— No more problems. —white girl rant bubble, but I mean, she already apologized.

No, she didn't apologize. She said, "I'm not going to apol—" What she said is— No. No, no, no. She said, "I was wrong. I was wrong. My opinion was wrong. Okay, guys?" And then later in the press conference, they said, "But will you apologize?" And she said, "No, I'm not gonna apologize for my take. We're in the take-giving business." business.

Oh, well, the 'I was wrong' was enough. That's because you're a normal rational person.

We did it. We did it.

No, but she gave us what we needed. I was wrong. My take was wrong. My opinion was wrong. A lot of people—

it was not enough. That's my point. People still—

she still refused to apologize. She said she was wrong, but she wouldn't apologize for it. I'm like, that's fucking crazy.

I don't need nothing else from her.

Yeah, you're normal. You said the normal rational shit that I would say, like, yeah, say you wrong.

When Mark started is for real. Yeah, man, I don't know if y'all picked up—

white women got it too hard out here, man. Oh God, white women got it too hard. We can't be doing this to them, adding more to the pile.

Is, is there anything in music that needs our attention?

We got a new T.I. album. We had him up here, friend of the show, friend of the show. We did.

Kill the King is finally out.

Kill the King, it's fire. I like most of it. There's a little section in the middle that I don't really love.

Uh, middle, my favorite. Yeah.

Oh yeah, what happened Oh, it just felt to me like kind of like throwback-ish.

That's what I like.

Yeah, that's what I like. I like throwback T.I. Yeah.

Did it sound like that was intentional? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would, I would assume so.

Yeah, it didn't sound dated, it just sounded like old, like old T.I., classic T.I. rather, not old.

That T-Pain shit is hard.

I was just— that's my favorite shit.

And I could see how anybody hearing T-Pain would think this takes me back to era.

And Jeezy and 2 Chainz in there, they all on the same record. So yeah, this is an era song.

I think that's— they did it right. But I think that's back. It is a little bit. I think that's back a little bit. That's part of why this Pretty Ricky shit is so like— it's an era and it's back.

Yeah, I ain't mad at it. He's rapping his ass off on this album. The odds—

yeah, he is. He's killing. He's killing. The odds might be back. They might be like, you know, we went through the '90s, went through the '80s, went through 70s.

Yeah, it's the arts time. And I mean, listen, the older acts are touring, getting all this money. The older fan bases are alive and kicking and screaming and letting you know that they still got money to support.

They're the main ones now. The way ticket prices is, it's the older fan bases who got the money that can actually go to these shows. Yeah, like, this shit is fucked up out here in terms of shows.

And some of the older artists that you can call, 8.5 times out of 10, they're going to be a better artist than whatever new artist you can call. Like, I was happy to hear T-Pain. I'm like, hey, this feels good again. Why don't niggas call T-Pain? He can still do hooks like riding a bike. Yeah, I still want to hear that.

Can we get some of it?

Shout out to T.I. Uh, yeah, we get it.

Yeah, what you want to hear?

Play the record. Play the record. Got you, got you. Play the Pain record. What is it? Dope? Yeah, T.I. T.I. delivered, man. Dope Boyz Academy.

And everybody do what they supposed to do.

Tyson. I got it for lower prices. Criminal time, shout out, I can beat the store price. Now we need some boiling water and some baking soda and a cup of J, we get to rolling. Hustle is all we know, like if they come and raid today, then fuck it, we got it. I love that in the back. I love a Rich Porter shout out in the song too. We dedicate shit to him with Wait a minute. No, let that go, let that go, let that go, let that go, let that go. Let Jeezy get some.

Yeah, thank you.

Hey, whole Atlanta, what's going on out there?

Talk to them niggas, young.

Hey, nah, we can turn this off. Nah, let it go, let it go, let it go, let it go. Program! Anybody want to build snow? Wait— yeah, drop that drum out now! Let it go, let it go, let it go, let it go, let it go, let it go, let it go, let it go, let it go! Y'all mean this my last Friday Out?! Made $120 off of us, way before we was on TV right here! Go James, let's go James! I made 120 all for her, that was way before she got famous. She fire, shit fire y'all man, it's My Last Friday Out baby girl imagine your ass right here let's go change let's go Changs slapper make $120 off of you, that was way before I don't feel right cutting Chainz off. No, no, we love Chainz.

Goddamn, that shit take you back right there.

Yeah, it do, it do.

That's it. I always appreciate when the feature artist— like, it's TI's album, but you called T-Pain You know the hook is gonna be where it need to be. You called Jeezy and 2 Chainz. I always give a little more props when the featured artist goes first in that scenario. I'm just saying, like, the placement on that song was, was done the way it's— but if you had all them features, yeah, T.I. first, Jeezy in the middle, Keep Me Live, and 2 Chainz is a finisher. Yep, clean up. He's a finisher. That was hard. Anyway, new T.I. album in stores right this very second, in your phone right this very second, across DSPs right at this very every second. Shout out to T.I.

And it's a lot of other shit on there too, right?

So yeah, it's joints on this album. Benny put something out, right?

Yeah, Plugs I Met 2.5.

Plugs I Met. Okay, anybody heard it? Anybody heard it? I did, I did.

And I hate to dwell, but Rise and Fall—

let's go, Piggity! My man got busy.

It just might cause some destruction behind the line. Reggie Miller shoot from long at the bucket.

It's I'm like the dealer, pull your card when you bluffing. Okay, I bought a crib and then it burned down. Illuminati after me from all them deals that I turned down.

My first meal was like my first style, but cooking was my first skill.

My chain's moving like a first down. Ah, let's go! Wow, hold up, that was hard. Hold up.

Hey yo, certain parts of the game that we gotta accept even if we don't want to, you know what I'm saying?

Oh, pain.

Hey yo, I was inside of the slammer, then I met a guy who had cancer that provided me answers.

He said make retirement plans first, don't just work for the day, work for the days you can't work.

My hands hurt from feeding the wrong goons, I got bite marks from slinging this dog food.

Millionaires, that's crazy, crazy.

Killers dead, make sure the silverware is the long spoon. You burying bread, you burying his leg. You gonna see that the weight you're carrying dead. And these hoes are scary, I said. I seen them fuck the whole city, move out and marry celebs. I was bringing life to the town when y'all was getting airy from dreads. Got rich from various meds, told Harry give me a beat.

All the rappers in the area fled. I know that feeling, man.

He can speak, he can speak.

That's all I'm saying. Of course, nobody ever said he he can't talk.

No, Mark changed my tune up a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, he changed my—

he changed— no, no, no, no, I was kind of saying that a little bit. You said he can't talk to Jadakiss? Yeah, shut the fuck up.

Yeah, I would say no, he could always— if I got you on the record, I could talk. He got Kiss on the record before.

I disagree with that. I don't agree with that. I think that's some— that's something that they made up on HipHopDX. That was like something that was birthed from like boxed in, where if the feat— if somebody got you on a feature, they could talk to— nah, nigga's a bad day in the Okay, or somebody changed their verse or redid their verse, or somebody came back, added some verses. I get it, fans don't never know nothing about that, so the finished product is the finished product. But if you got a rapper on one song, I do not think that you have the right to talk to that rapper any type of way.

Now, when you mean God, I mean that he had the better version. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. I just want to be on the same page. And he— and on the record, he had the better version. Yes, yes.

And everybody's saying that. It's consensus. That's like the Spur. And again, I get it, that my, my thinking is musician, rapper, MC thinking. Like, that's like the Spurs pissing off the Knicks. It's like, okay, you had the better verse. I feel like I got the better of Fab many a times we had the same song. I wouldn't say that to him. I never say nothing like that to him. Why make a man— why make, why make a man so that the next time I come in here, you go out of your way to deliver the best verse you've ever— I don't want that on my conscience. But you also gave a reason. Dirty 38 Special, from what I just heard, if you are gonna do that, which he does every time you rap, you can say, you can say whatever you want to whoever, to whoever. But that's asking a lot of yourself. That verse was phenomenal. Let me ask you a question. I got bites on my hands.

Think back, you know you got the list. Remember the list, like certain names you wanted to, you wanted to take their heads off on the verse, right? Yeah. All right, if you get one of them, get on record, take his head off. Pause. I can talk. Kiss might be on Special's list of people where I want to take his head off.

No, but you just get—

he might be. I'm not, I'm not comparing catalog, discography. I'm not doing none of that. I'm talking about pen to paper.

You may be right. I want to get—

I think it's rap shit from someone that still values rap.

If he gonna do that, he can get Kiss Uh, send him that Big Daddy Kane beat.

That's all I'm saying, man. Let him, let him get that beat, man.

No, get y'all, get out of here.

I don't like that. I wouldn't do that.

I wouldn't, especially after I heard that verse. I'm so phony. A little bit. Yeah, but you just made an excuse.

You just said that some people go back in the lab.

Ice is right. Parks is right. That happens. Ice is right. Parks is Be clear that what I'm saying is from my lived experience. I understand what you're saying. My studio experience and my— I have a different reverence for the top 25 rappers of all time. And I guess I had to learn that because I talked shit about every one of them on the list before. You did. Because I came in the game with the wrong understanding. I thought it was we rappers and we competing. But no, this is business and lifestyles and livelihoods. So when you understand that, then why would you want to fucking kick somebody and say they whack and you trash and I could kill you? You might be taking food off somebody's plate.

But some of these niggas still walk around with that killer mentality of, like I said, they got a list. I want to get this nigga. I want to get him. Oh boy, I'm not gonna see— you know who I'm talking about? Of course I do.

I let him live.

You got him. If you— but if you got on a record with him and you've been— I, I want that that one. Now y'all on the track, you destroy this nigga.

Now you might talk a little different. I rap better than him anytime I wake up.

That's not— oh, I rap better than that, that person.

I'm not talking about that. My mouth was mutilated. It's some type of way. I get him started. Come out with me. That was crazy.

That was crazy.

I was gonna let you live, but that was crazy. You know what I'm saying?

I know what you're saying though, man.

I'm just saying, Kane, send him the verse.

Send send him the beat, man. Kane absolutely tore that shit up, but I would expect nothing less. And I ain't heard a peep from Max B since. Nah, they squashed that.

Yeah, so they squashed it. Brooklyn Chop House.

Yeah, they squashed that. So don't matter. It don't matter. That's something else that HipHopDX and them came up with, squashing it. All right, cool.

Still, still next time.

I come from the era of watching Game hug 50 at the school in Harlem, nigga. Oh yeah, up there. Not even Harlem, that was just Upper Manhattan, wherever the fuck that was. And all of the outlet, oh, they squashed it, they— it's officially— it's good to see black niggas.

I said Oh shit, yo, I know what you're talking about.

No such thing as a squash. Hey, we all watch J Prince take Drake and Kanye and make them take a picture together. Nobody watching it said, you know what, that's all squashed. This is squash now. Do a whole show together. Oh shit, I forgot about that.

Yeah, nigga, a whole show.

That's another type of power there, man. Shout out to J Prince. Yeah. Yo, holding their hands up in the picture.

We brought them together.

Oh God, he was like, yo, my man, I got somebody in jail, he's doing life, about to come home soon. I need y'all two to get together, do your biggest hits.

But Jay, we don't like each other.

Don't matter, I didn't ask ask you. You know what I did for you when homie called from jail and put you on a mission?

You kind of got to do it. Yeah, I gotta play my man who'll be doing the jail calls. This the same dude that do the other one that did, uh, when your man's showing out in front of the— in front of the bad joints. Okay, okay, this is, uh, this is him about when your man called call from jail. Rise and grind, gangster.

Glad I caught you. Check it, I need you to do me a solid. Yo, tomorrow is that Knicks parade. My sister Rhonda and her daughter Lil Daphne, they big Knicks fans, nah mean. And they trying to get a good spot at that parade, like in the front row, so they could see Bronson and them niggas. What I'ma need you to do is go out there tonight at 4:30 AM. It's gonna be waiting for you, word, because you gotta pass off a kite that I gotta get to my sister Rhonda. So you gonna get the kite from my man and he gonna give you the spot, and you stay there from 4:30 AM to the float come around at around 10 AM. By that time, my sister Rhonda and her daughter, you heard, might be a little bit late, but I need you to hold that spot down. You heard? Get an autograph from Brunson and all that. Don't fuck that up. Up for me, my J. Now the last thing I need is that nigga Jadakiss is supposed to perform on the floor, you heard, back in 2006.

Now I mean, the nigga signed me to a single deal, he owe me $8,000.

I got locked up with that little body out in Maryland.

I need you to pick that up, big dog. You get that to my little piece out of her head. Oh shit, yo, no, I'm crying. This shit is hilarious.

That's funny, son.

I'm absolutely crying. That's— anyway, I say that to say the beef ain't never squashed, man. Yeah, that be right. Oh man. Oh, shout out to Laz. That nigga's funny. All right. Uh oh, music, music, music, music. All right, we did— hold up now, hold up now, hold Wait a minute. Uh, so these past few weeks, I have been waiting anxiously by my phone for K1's project to drop. And I kept getting the date wrong. So at least for 3 Fridays, I would sit, wait for this shit, and it never came. Pause. Last night, it finally came out. For the K1 fans out there, what a fucking K1 album, man. Man, wow. If this ain't the most K-One album that she could possibly do, this sound like a young lady that is fucking all the young ladies, spinning them around. I'm gonna play a couple joints. This right here is track 3, just so you see how she on it. It's my record with the saxophone. Yeah, this one with the saxophone. We'll let this go. This is called Rather Never Love Again. Yeah, bring that sax in.

I let all my ego get me down.

No, I don't practice what you preach, baby, as you should. You've had enough, and now you all out of my reach.

And even if I get his back, I don't know if you going to be the same, be the same. But I wish So just so y'all understand what I'm saying, I'm gonna read y'all the track, the track names. Okay. Track 1 is called All Fours featuring Dustin Conrad. Then it's Good Girl, Rather Never Love Again, Touch Myself. Track 5 is called Till the Room Stinks with Ty Dollaz sign. Okay, okay. And it means what it sounds like. Oh no, for sure. 6 is Risk It All, 7 is Till You Cry, 8 is Hopeless Romantic, Idea Love, 10 is Better On My Own, and 11 is Heaven's In Your Hands. This little bitch get a lot of pussy. Yeah. Uh, wait a minute, where's the Nelly flip? Risk It All, Risk It All, Risk It Oh, K1, you put your foot in this project. All of this is brand new K1. It's on her album. It's in your phone right this very second. Second. Shout out to K1, this shit is amazing. I can't wait to hear this in the, in the car. Uh, but the album is called And All Pride Aside. I'm telling you, these, these R&B projects that are nice and concise, a nice 28, 35 minutes that chronicle the whole breakup.

Like RJ the Weirdo project is one of the hardest projects out to me because each song is walking you through the whole downfall of the relationship. Ship. It's fire.

Anyway, there's, uh, an album that we kind of didn't touch on. Apparently nobody did. Uh, I'm talking about Lizzo's album.

Okay. All right. Big Lizzo, almost friend of the show, almost friend of the show.

Not so big Lizzo now, and I think that might be part of the—

Lizzo looks great. Yeah, she looks amazing.

Um, nothing is wrong with being big, but on 2 weeks ago, she put out a rec— album. I mean, this one of the biggest pop stars in in the world, certainly in the US, you know, at one point. Yeah, album first week, 2,600 or something, 2,650 sales. Second week dropped to 600. Um, that's low for anybody. And I've been sitting here trying to figure out the why of it. First, let me just say the album itself isn't her best work to me. Um, in fact, I would say it's her worst album. It wasn't very good. I haven't it. It's, it's trying to be too many things. It started off as one project and became this album, bitch. Uh, it's, it's trying to do too many things. It's experimental in a lot of ways. Uh, there's some punk on there, there's some pop on there, there's some R&B, but like '70s stuff. There's just— it goes in a lot of directions, and I don't think it does any of the things well enough to be that thing, and it's spread too thin. So I think it's not a good album. But even with a bad album, you should be able to sell more than 3,000 if you Lizzo in over 2 weeks.

To me, just— it's just crazy. The part where I was trying to figure out with y'all is the why of it.

Well, who knew this album was coming out?

Which is her complaint. She's saying the label didn't push it, there's no promotion for it, nobody knew this thing was single.

Like, Lizzo— Lizzo is a, um, radio— yeah, a radio darling. Yeah, like, what— it's clear there's a disconnect here, right, between her and the label. Either the label is like, we're no longer invested in you, or we think think whatever we think, but we're not on the same page because it's clear that they didn't put no money into this because you would have heard something. You would have seen her somewhere other than the Versus.

Yeah, yeah, I didn't see her anywhere. I mean, her thing is streaming has taken over radio, and so, you know, when my career first started, I was known for radio hits, and now the radio doesn't matter anymore, and that's why no one's checking for me. I think that's like 25% true.

It's above I, I accept that answer from her, and that may even be what she thinks. It's above her. It's, it's above that. That may be— she may believe that, but it's not.

Yeah, I don't think it's entirely true either. Radio still matters.

Of course radio matters. And they didn't see the radio.

Lizzo didn't come out in '08. That's who streaming— streaming was here when she was— when you were here and dominated. Well established. Yeah. Uh, Again, my experience be different, so I know what it looks like when something is label pushed and something is not label pushed. Fans have a hard time making that distinction. Uh, I don't put any of this on Lizzo. I don't put any of this on—

I do.

Even if it was a bad album, it's not Lizzo's fault that only 2,600 people went out. This says y'all don't— y'all hear more and more artists coming up here, even the huge artists, saying, no, I paid for this. Yeah, no, I did this. No, I put this out. No, it's me, it's me. It's, it's, it's back to, back to curation. The artists that are able to curate on their own or with a small group of people are going to succeed and, and have the backing. Like, T.I. came up here, Killer Mike came up here, and it was like, I spent my own money, and it's a lot money. Yeah, that was part of the problem back in the day. A new artist didn't have the money, and, and there were gatekeepers, so you couldn't get on the radio, you couldn't get on MTV, you couldn't— there was a gatekeeper everywhere. So you kind of needed them. Today, if you can kind of curate on your own, then that's what you got to get into. And we never— we didn't meet Lizzo that way. We met Lizzo as a label baby, a label darling, and she reaped the benefits of that, which this is prime time at the award shows, this is, uh, some awards, right?

Like, let's talk like 4 or 5 Grammys or something like that. Uh, performances where they need to be, commercials where they need to be, partnerships where they need to be. And some of this I'm sure comes from some of the press that— and I want to— I wanted to talk to her about this whenever she comes. She is still supposed to come. Okay. Um, some of that comes from the press about that London strip club shit. Like, there were a few things.

That's the part I blame.

Then there were some comments she made. People felt like she was alienating bigger people. Like, this is a culmination of things, but all of it still is the label's fault.

I would like to know what— how many albums she owed the label, because a lot of times once you get to the end of that and you're not showing that you, like, you want to go your own way now, and they sing, all right, go out there and— yeah, number 5.

So that could be very much—

exactly. So it's like, all right, cool, go out there. We not putting nothing into to it. Whatever you do is what you do, and then you walk, and now your stock ain't the same. And you're gonna get a real— you're gonna get a real awakening out there.

Yeah, if your stock is left up to them. That's always the scary part about being signed somewhere and just your likeness, because your fate is left up to somebody else. Another reason I'm a huge fan of Lizzo trying to come up here is because to me that, that signified that, oh, that ain't the label. Whatever, whatever powerful people were back there, those people telling the pop stars that these are the types of platforms that you need to stay away from and not visit. I enjoyed seeing Lizzo on the Versus last night because that looked like something that Lizzo got out of bed and wanted to do. What? Yeah, it wasn't the label saying— it wasn't for the look. It wasn't that whole Laker game with the bra. It wasn't manufactured. It looks to be— wanted to do that natural and organic. So when artists come to that fork in the road where you have to have that uncomfortable look in the mirror era. Yeah, sometimes you got to take a step back to take steps forward. Like, don't look at that like a loss. Take your own shit into your own hands. Find you a team of people that get the vision or understand it and baby step your way back to success.

But you don't need the label and you don't need, uh, those types of executives holding that over your head or, or being so in control of whether you popping or whether you not popping.

You know, Joe, that's all I got. And I agree with everything you just said. And Lizzo so incredibly talented. She's phenomenally talented. I'm actually a fan and I like her music. I didn't like this album, but I like her music. But everybody should be able to survive a bad album. And if you have a core fan base that fucks with you, you should still be able to have a respectable showing even with a bad album. So I think the label— everything you said about the label is true. I also wonder about who her core fan base is and if she's— if it was ever exactly what we thought it was.

How would she know.

Well, so, so that's, that's, that's what has always had control over that, right? And part of it is, if, if you're, if you're building your base off of radio hits, is— I mean, there's a theory that, that it wasn't a core fan base as much as people who were just loving these particular radio hits. Got it. Okay. Um, then there's the crew, then there's the fact that she kind of came in with the kind of— I don't want to put it— arrogance. No, no, no, no. I mean, may— that's— I'm not even assessing her. I'm just thinking about— she had a social justice— it was she was the person who it was cool to like. Okay. I like the big girl. Okay. I like the— you know, all these things. Her getting smaller unfortunately probably didn't help her with some of that base. There are people who saw her as— I mean, she was a social justice crew's like poster girl. These lawsuits and allegations don't help that crew. Yeah. So I'm just saying there's a lot of moving parts, and I'm not— I don't know, I'm not blaming her for either those things necessarily.

I don't know enough about the lawsuits to have an opinion on it. And if you want to lose weight, lose weight. You should, right, if that's what you want to do. But I'm just saying, part of it is the— I think all that label shit is true, but I also think she may have lost her actual base over the last few years, at least.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, the other part is, like you said, if you, if you come in as a label darling, radio darling, etc., what is your base? That ain't, that ain't your base.

That's exactly—

that base could have been manufactured from the gate.

Exactly. And now you're starting to realize because you're Like, you keep talking about the radio hits and radio— I'll be honest with you, I don't know one Lizzo radio song. Yeah, you do.

Yes, you do. If I hear it. Yeah, yeah, if I hear it.

But right now, somebody— I, I couldn't name one, and I don't know what it sounds like. But Lizzo was a mascot for so many different messages. Yes. Yeah, but we don't know if that's, uh, naturally how Lizzo ever felt about nothing. And that's the thing, that's the bad back to the— to take a step backward, two steps forward. I— to y'all's point that we all saying, I don't think she know her real fan base, nor do I think she was ever given a chance to cultivate it organically, because that's all the label— we got a big girl. All the labels see is how do we make a big girl pop? Oh, body positivity. There you go, right? There you go, body positivity. Who's in office? Biden. All right, we supporting trans, we support— and she could— I'm just saying I'm saying these are all messages that were not only strong but really easy to get behind. So we'll see. Uh, take your— take your fucking fate into your own hands. Take it back to the music. Do what's in your heart. You won't go wrong either way.

Sometimes when you trust in the machines and you're depending on them, it's hard to actually adjust in real time, in the moment. You don't know where to start from or where to start at.

Yo, dog, all the machines are dying. Yeah, all the machines— all the machines are dying. Hey, back to that— back to that whole fucking— what, what did we say with Pretty Ricky? That the errors are coming back, or regional shit is coming back, or time capsules is coming back. If we doing that right, then it's back to a time where, where— damn, fans might not know about this time, but we're back to the time when the labels were signing the independent act and saying, hey, you still go out there and tell them you independent, and we're going to make this look organic, and we'll be back back here pressing. We getting back to that, and the, the fish are getting bigger. So the companies that are dying out there— like, last part, I was at a Patreon, we was talking about Vans and their cultural relevance, and it was like, they're always culturally relevant. I was sitting here saying, well, we need to check the stock. I checked the stock, stock's down. So for those people, it's always a numbers thing, and they're trying to do workarounds. Spotify going through shit, Apple going through shit, Amazon going through shit.

Every big company Netflix is going— every big company you can think of is going through shit, and they're all fighting through it right this second. So this is a shifting, this is a transformative— we about to be in 2027. Saying that out loud even sounds crazy. Yeah, but that means that big companies, 5 and 10 years— it's only a few companies that's kicking ass. I ain't gonna name them. Some of them should call me, uh, but it's only a few of them. It's only a few of them. I know, and I ain't gonna get on the long rant. Yeah, you know some of them. I know a couple love them. Like, we'll talk later. This part ain't for like real shit. Um, go ahead.

No, no, no, because you moved on from the subject because you said the company's—

I kill it on the closeout too. Yeah, but I can always count on one of y'all.

You know, we try to— some niggas come on the back end, they try to clean you up.

Okay. Yeah. All right.

Uh, what else is important to any of you in music? Anywhere?

I don't We got— we finally got that, uh, GloRilla, Pooh Shiesty record, which was important to me because there was a lot of talk about some other police. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Um, but no, this record in particular was, you know, with the allegations and allegedly what happened between him and Gucci Mane, part of it— this record came up a lot because it was once he had secured the release on video, which we'll talk about. Yes. Um, they sent that over in order to get this record able to drop and saying I could now sign with CMG, we can drop this record, which was then blocked because no, you're not a free agent like you thought you were. But, um, the song did come out, it's called Main, and I ain't gonna lie, don't lie, don't lie, bro, like he went through, he went the off. You got a little bit? Yeah, he, he absolutely went off. It's a nice follow-up. I need a word for FDR.

If I'm a bird, I need a word for this. Because I'm a bird. Y'all know when the bird— right, go, oh, look at you being a bird. I need a word for this. No, no, this— we need a more fun word than fan.

But now I wanted to hear this because, you know, both of them being from Memphis, I fuck with both their music. So I always wondered what it was. It's important to you.

Yes.

You can skip to the second verse.

Just let me get this shit off.

And that kill don't make you gangster, nigga.

I know snitches with bodies. See them millions in hand, my juice.

I was a motherfucker, 4-fang.

You ain't made no name in all this time, bitch, you gonna die lame.

I've been GG since elementary. LeChai like never stain. My city ain't wanna accept my gang, now it's a household name.

Who run Memphis? Brigg Gang.

I got rich off gunslinging, body drop.

They get the name and me and them smash the bag.

I mean, I see what you mean. It's hard. He talking, he living it too though. I mean, what you want? What the fuck you want me to say? You know, he never met a 16 or 24. He don't do that. He don't do none of that.

He's nice.

Unfortunately, that's great. That sounds great. Like, that's a great song. But, but, however, I ain't saying no, however. It's gonna be hard to promote. It's not a however, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's, it's a unfortunately. It's not, it's not a however. That's hard. It should be hard. This nigga's out doing all this shit that he's saying. So when he come on the opening verse. Yo, for me, the opening line to a verse was super important. It's probably the line you spent the most time on, the opener and the closer. Not for him. The very first line is just, yo, this shit poking out my t-shirt, the Draco too big. You don't say. What? Nothing to think about there. He just looked down. Yeah, that's it. Draco. I love him as a rapper.

He's me too. That's it.

But I don't love why I love him as a rapper, because he's living it. He's living what he's speaking, and I wish he would stop. I'm petrified. I wish you would stop. Go ahead, you have to report.

You are— you are—

I knew y'all was going to do it.

So yeah, so, so here they come. Whoa, here they come, it's the Street Apologist. Whoa, here they come, it's the Street Apologist.

About you, nigga. You run around when they going through the rap beef and saying how you miss this and miss that. You always do that. You be flip-floppy. And then now somebody— and I don't cosign what he's doing— now somebody actually living what they say, which is bullshit. Then when nigga say I like that or I like him, oh, we a street apologist, nigga. Pick a fucking side, bro. What side are you on, yo? I mean, let me say this. I know what he say. I got all the receipts of what he say. They put it on Reddit how he flip-flop. This nigga play double dutch when it comes to I don't see the flip-flop. The flip-flop is saying that when somebody's beefing, yo, go out there and do something. You niggas at a lot, it's all this fucking talking. Go out there. I like when my— the beef is real. That's what he says. He said it on here. Then when niggas are saying something, oh, you a street apologist. You cause a lot of confusion.

It's a solid point, Flip, sir.

Fair point. Let me, let me clarify. Let me clarify the record. I never want any of these niggas to do any of the shit that they're doing. And if I ever come on my platform and say otherwise, Guys I'm trying to be funny sometimes it lands but I don't want nobody to go out there and kill people shoot at people stab people kidnap them in public places kidnapped definitely not videotape change your own contract bring $100s to the studio would you have had kids kidnappin' if you had a chance too?

To get off this shit!

No no never known—

know what's going Joe, on right now man?!

stop. Now be, be very clear, I am not a criminal. I have never wanted to be a criminal, and I don't condone other people being criminals in my studio. I don't. That's me. And I'm fly with some pretty fly criminals. Same, same. I'm fly with some of the flyest criminals. Guess what, if I, if I had to make the same— yeah, that's— I respect their decision.

They tougher than me, and they respect me, cuz y'all— I'm not with y'all with We got it. Y'all got it.

I'm real good at establishing who's tougher than me. Y'all got it. I can't do none of that shit.

You got it. Okay.

I make a way better bologna sandwich than they served in jail that time I went. Time I went was budget cutbacks. No mustard, one thing of mayonnaise. You had to fight another nigga for extra mayonnaise. I don't want to live— I don't want to live like that. I like shoelaces. I like sweats, but I like to pick my own sweats. Swats.

Yeah, good sweats.

Yeah, I like getting up when I want, you know. I like windows, space.

I like Gucci sunlight. That's the most important thing. Gucci is amazing. I like pussy. And most importantly, I don't like— and this is just never changed— I never have liked anybody telling me what to do.

That part. Yeah.

Okay. I tell a nigga I gotta take a shit, he say no, nah, you can't take a shit here. Fuck are you No, no, for real. They took a little longer to bail me out my first time in Hudson County, so I had to go to General Pop. Sorry. So it happened to you. It was a sad walk. It wasn't an ill walk-in.

They wasn't like, oh, how old were you?

20, call it 25. Oh, this post-pump it up? Yes. Oh no, every time I ever went to jail was post-pump it up. Part of the problem, right?

He trying to live his rap.

Oh Man, so anyway, I go in there and at some point, because I was in there for maybe 2 or 3 days, but at some point I had to take a shit. And the nigga I was in there with said that that toilet is not for usage for shits. Okay, he was serious.

Yeah, so what'd you do? Exactly. No, but actually, that long?

No, no, but don't get it fucked up. I was in jail with privilege, nigga. I'm a cling clang on this thing, and they gonna bring me to somewhere I can shit, nigga. I don't have to go through this with you. So that's what I did. Hey, it took a little while. It took a while. They don't just come right away. That's the other reason I ain't gonna go to jail. I like fucking experience. Immediate customer service. They just got to me whenever they fucking felt like it.

Nope. So you don't want to be told what to do. You don't want to live around a lot of people you want to have be able to do shit when you want to do it. Shit specifically.

I like shit when I want to shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you should live alone.

Oh shit.

I mean, it's a good thing you do. It's a good— it's a good thing you live alone.

Yo, that's a good one, son. That's a good one. This nigga is crazy. This nigga evil, bro. Oh my God, I got a trick for No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't.

You don't have no tricks, bro.

I got a trick for her.

That whole bag of tricks is out the window.

Oh, I put that earlier. My last Friday of freedom. Boy, I can't wait. I'm going out to cheat. No, you're not. Of course I'm not. This nigga's so stupid, yo. But I feel like this is when you shoot Good. Anyway, I love you, baby, and I look forward to— I look forward to our new forever.

Fuck what they talking about. We look forward to it too, actually, seeing her, tell you the truth.

We can't wait. I can't wait. Cannot wait. I cannot wait. Nothing makes me happier. So many shows we about to watch together. What did you— I will kill you, or they made me kill you.

I will find you.

Oh yeah, I will find you. I I will find you.

Episode 1 was dope, and you got time to unpack stuff.

I want to see it, but we saved it because she will be here shortly. There you go. She will be here shortly.

And also, Joe, all those conversations that get cut short when somebody got to go to the airport or go do something else, at least now you can unpack all of it. That's true. You can— communication is— you can really communicate. You can— nigga, you ain't seen communication.

Now that she moving up here, I'm starting to I should listen to her more. Yeah, man, she ain't seen shit.

And now the random thoughts that, that, you know, and I just, I just wanted to bring this to your attention.

Now they right there and she telling me about it. Yeah, no, seriously, this shit is a fucking— boy, I can't wait. Yo, the things that as a man you leave the house and go out there and experience and then you come back. The things you experience in your day, like, as a dude, you can't listen to your girl talk about the stresses of her day, yo. Honestly, I'm about to throw a phone at this lady.

So you didn't finish your Pooh Shiesty thought.

Oh no, that's true.

Yeah, let's get back to Pooh Shiesty. Would you believe somebody got smart with me at Starbucks?

I tried to save you.

Would you believe they made my café look— what a bullshit. They didn't put enough caramel. I almost pulled back around, but then the cars—

oh my God, he's like, what?

I'm sorry you went through that. God, yo, that don't work. It does something. That does not—

that make it worse. I love when you say that. I tried that. That, that wasn't good.

Anyway, um, what else?

So now it's come out that apparently one of his co-defendants allegedly recorded the whole thing on his cell phone, and they got the video and screenshots and all of this. So you recorded a robbery and kidnapping on your cell phone? That's a good idea. It's a great idea. Like, that's another— that's another reason why I don't fuck with criminals like that, because they just dumb.

Thank you, thank you. Like, they do the crime with their phone in their pocket. No, no, recording. Took the phone out and recorded.

Meta, meta Ray-Bans, right?

Like, y'all don't think none of this shit through. None of it.

I expected more from a nigga named— yeah, exactly. Sometimes the name will tell you what's going on with niggas. Pooh Shiesty. Anyway, OJ, man, OJ, keep all that stupid knucklehead shit away from me, man. I'm trying to have a good summer. Yeah, yeah, I just want to listen to the bullshit.

I don't be nowhere around it.

Yeah, that's, that's it.

Clear. I, I will listen to the bullshit though and put a platform on it, you know what I mean?

Boost it up. Yeah, yeah. Um, what else, what else, what else do y'all want to get into? Uh, our, our divorce court shit. You want to have the fucking, uh, J. Will fight? Let's have a J. Will— let's have a J. Will debate, man. At the draft the other night, at the draft the other last night, Richard Jefferson and J. Will were two of the analysts, and Richard Jefferson said some shit that was— I mean, I guess he thinks he was joking, but it was completely out of line, out of bounds.

Do they got any kind of smoke?

Awkward and flagrant. North Carolina-Duke smoke, maybe?

Yeah, national finals. I mean, not really.

Like, I mean, no, no, okay, cool. I know Richard Jefferson to be a— and he he listens to the show, shout out to him. But, but he's a jokester, like he's a comedian, he likes to play around. But on draft night, in this moment, he chose to make a joke about J. Will's motorcycle accident and how he never reached his full potential because athletes are stupid and do stupid shit, right? Like ride a bike the day after the draft and change their life forever. He said that shit, it's like a joke. Yeah, and it was uncomfortable. And Jay Will is a class act. Yeah, good dude, class act. I've auditioned shows with him before. Shout out to Jay, like, top to bottom class act. And even how he responded in the aftermath, you could tell he was pissed off and maybe wanted to hook up on this thing, but, but it was very professional. It was very, you know, and he was just like, listen, man, some people throw my obstacles in my face, but I look at what I was able to do since then and I feel even more accomplished. With some of the hurdles that I had to get.

He's just top to bottom a class act.

Great job. What do you— what— what—

if y'all heard about this, what— what is y'all's opinion on this style of joke, the timing of the joke, and when jokes go too far?

Personally, for me, I need to know more. I need to know what their dynamic is. Like, if they play like that— like, up here, we— we get some jokes off that some people watch and be like, damn, they took it there. But we play like that. So if, if that's— if they cool enough to do that with each other, then I'm not, I'm not all the way mad at it. I still wouldn't have done it.

Here's the thing, I mean, part of it for me is the platform.

There's no such thing as that cool.

Yeah, I agree, I agree with that. I think that joke is just—

there's no such thing as that cool. I disagree.

Even unless you're at a roast, that sounds like something you would do off air maybe.

That's what I was about to say. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The setting matters. Like, this is still ESPN And this is still all of America watching this conversation. Yeah, like there's jokes that even I would make up here, or that Joe or you or you or you would make up here, that we wouldn't make if we want a different platform because of who the audience is. Exactly. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's not a—

like, if they asked us, if they asked us to fucking introduce at the Grammys, and at the Grammys one of y'all off script decided to do some Pump It Up career failure joke to to me, that's gonna land different and have a very different effect than us joking right here, right? That's why it seems like you have to know if you, if, if you fuck with somebody, if you don't fuck with somebody, you have to know when a joke and the timing of the joke and the place where you're saying the joke has an effect. No matter how cool J. Will is, he was a, uh, what was he, the second pick?

I don't I don't remember, but he was a top 3 pick.

I don't remember either because my memory— I think he was like number 3.

He was him coming out, coming out.

Yeah, he was.

So for his entire career as an athlete to change because of that motorcycle accident— hey, maybe you get that off if we at our house, maybe there's some way you get that off.

Second overall.

Yeah, you don't get that off at a draft. Yeah. As you are watching 17, 18, 19, 20-year-olds change life, you have to know that that man is hearkening back to that, right?

Yeah, they hit a little different out of—

yeah, yeah, that's all I know. Yeah, any, any graduation I go to, yeah, I think of the graduation I didn't go to. It's just a natural thing, right? Right. Sometimes I cry at the graduations thinking about what my graduation, yeah, would have looked like. I get it. Yeah, the draft is not where you make that joke. Nah, it's too many emotions here. It's too many people here with their families. It's too many people here that come from hoods like we come to— like we come from now. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Me and you joke like that, but you're not making a spectacle out of probably the most difficult thing I've ever had to endure on national TV in front of millions with Disney support.

Fuck you. Yeah, no, that ain't the— fuck yeah, you dog. I'm gonna assume Richard— I don't know Richard Jefferson, you know, only to speak.

You know he played in the Finals. Yeah, you know he played with Jason Kidd. You know he played with LeBron. You know he had a long career. He used to be able to jump out the gym. He's played with GOATs, has a career, has a career. That alone says you can't make that joke.

You can't make this joke. I agree. I'm gonna assume the best, right, which is that he wasn't trying to be mean-spirited. Heared it. I just think he's— he just missed. I think he's made a gross miscalculation. I'm assuming the best. He missed the mark. Yeah, but like, damn, he missed the mark on that one.

He just didn't read the room.

Yeah, not, not, not at all. I mean, and that ain't even the first— a good first swing joke. That's the joke you make when the jokes are ratcheting up. He said something to him and he said something to him and he talked about his career. He talked about his career.

I'm glad you said that because I was, I was gonna say, what's funny about that is you've never seen J. Will on air try funny. That's not his style of broadcasting, right? He don't try to make jokes.

Why he shoot at him like that then? That's what— that's why it seems so weird to me, because that's like some bullying shit then. If you know he don't play like that but you attack him in that— that with that type of a joke.

Yeah, that's—

I'm just trying to belittle you or bully you right now.

I could tell you why it's happening, probably. Why? Totally unfounded, but I can tell you anyway. Yeah, because there are different initiatives being spoken about up top. So I'm not— we're not just looking to hire retired athletes now. Y'all are competing with the personalities too. Yeah, we all competing with the person. You better have a personality.

Okay, you—

it's not enough for you to go up there and rattle off some advanced stats and analytics, or you watch the game, or you played for the Nets. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And ESPN is in that game, and you know that they in that game because fucking, uh, Shannon Sharp went there and then Cam Newton went there. And then see, y'all hearing athletes, but they not brought there as athletes, they're brought there personally as personalities. And when the Shannon Sharp goes wrong, we're gonna bring Cam up here and we're gonna bring such and such up here. We need That's a personality. Personality. Also a retired kicker for the Colts, right? But not so much. That's not what we— that's not looking— that's a caveat. The fact that I used to rap is like a caveat. If you know, you know. But now it's such a caveat, I don't even bother telling people because there's so many more people watching that. That is a personality. My job is to be a— so he was sitting there trying to bring up— I do that a lot here. I'll say something in an effort to be energy, and if it don't land, boy, what a mistake.

Or when you get home and watch it, it's like, oh, I didn't know I was coming off like that. But to do it on draft night—

yeah, he was trying to do some Inside the NBA shit on the wrong— right— network and platform.

I would have missed there too, but you're right.

And with the wrong person. Yeah, with the wrong person.

That's why I admit—

yeah, because he does have that relationship with certain people where they would do that. Listen, Chad Ochocinco and Deion Sanders when those two see each other and they do the lineup thing— I can get you, I can get you, I can get you. Yo, that's two fucking legends that play with each other a certain way, and nobody else in the world is going to understand this game that we're going to play every single time we see each other. I'm sure Richard Jefferson has those relationships. J-Will ain't one of them. Yeah, definitely not. J-Will ain't one of them, and not on draft night.

Y'all convinced me. Yeah, yeah, that's fucked up.

I wouldn't do that to you. I wouldn't. There's nowhere in the world— if you my real friend I love you, nigga. I'm not gonna wait till it's all the eyes on us and say something embarrassing to you, but nah, it's cool, we friends, so you ain't gonna take it embarrassing. That don't change the fact that 10, 15 million niggas done seen you, and now once you tag Lane, the game is— ain't— no, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that. Ain't no friend of mine. Don't try to say some shit and, and disguise it under the guise of we friends. Hey, that— my friendships come with boundaries, nigga. Y'all go watch some of these jokes. Not even the jokes, I don't care about the jokes, but where you say a joke Whereas it's like when the bitches come around, nigga. Yeah, yeah, good example. Go ahead and say the wrong joke when the joints is around. I'm gonna look at you as different for the rest of our life. Totally different for the rest of our life. I'm gonna look at you totally different. Yeah, Richard Jefferson was out of line, but that's my man.

I see him at the Knicks game, so I ain't gonna go too hard.

But also, some jokes are just too far no matter even if nobody's around. Like, if we don't air it, we all have boundaries and we all have shit that we wouldn't say to each other. Yeah, it changes personally. Yeah, I think I know, I agree. I'm talking shit. I think so. I think we all do. Like, I've never— I can't think of one. I mean, maybe there's one, but I can't think of one where somebody said something to me that I felt like was so far beyond the pale that I was like, yo, that's crazy. Some jokes I find funnier than others, but no. And in general, I think we all mark our boundaries. And sometimes somebody will say something off at line and be like, yo, dawg, don't do that.

No, I don't play like that.

And then we mark that boundary, and then you don't do it. That's it. You just don't do it again.

But some shit is so far, you don't have to Don't tell me that shit is also live too. So that's, that's another added element.

Yeah, that's true.

And you gotta be extra careful on live. Like, you can't push— but here we can say something and push the boundary and we'll stop and take it out. Yeah, there you can't stop and take it out. It's live.

Be clear, if any of y'all ever think that I came up here and pushed the boundary with any of y'all, I didn't. I didn't. Seriously, it's a list of things.

You get crazier than what you, than what you push. Yeah, there's a—

I've said this before, so I don't want to be asked, but there's a list of things when it comes to each person. I'm like, oh, I see what you said. Yeah, you said that. I don't play like that, and I have those things, and I wouldn't expect people to like this.

Yeah, we got you, we got you.

But I am a fan. Just don't do it. I am a fan of dark humor. When Mark do a little molestation joke, I laugh. No, but they wrong. His dark humor is wrong because—

and that's why we don't do them anymore. Publicly. Not because I think they're too far For us, I just think it's irresponsible to the audience and for people who've actually been harmed. Yeah, that's why, that's why we stopped doing it. Or at least that's why I stopped doing it. Yeah, but if I want to make a joke to you off air, yeah, we can make that. Yeah, not that I would do that, but if I did, they wouldn't know.

Like our little Instagram page.

Yeah, I mean, I seen y'all most— almost everything I seen y'all on Instagram is wildly inappropriate. Yes. Yeah, but it's funny, but I wouldn't do that, you know what I I mean, yeah, um, question for you, changing the subject. Sure, of course.

Here we go. Caught him, caught him.

Hold up. Oh, go ahead, please.

He said something about Instagram. All week I've been home taking pictures of y'all liking shit. Okay. Oh shit.

Oh, you got them liking shit?

Caught Parks. Oh, me?

Oh, you got Parks like that?

Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, the podcast skit.

I mean, if that's what you want to say. Who is that? Yeah, look, skit. Oh shit, let me look this way. Free, check your man. I mean, a skit.

Yeah, what you looking at the time for, boy?

Yeah, you can't edit it out. Yes, I fucking can. The fuck are you talking about?

Oh my God, call me to take some shit out with this joke. You crazy.

Oh shit, come on, go ahead, Mark. I'm sorry, I just want to have fun with Parks. Go ahead. Love Parks. Nice. Billy Porter. Ah, fucking— yeah, what's up with you? What's wrong with Billy Porter? Nothing's wrong with Billy Porter. What's wrong with you is what I'm asking.

What do you mean? I wanna— I want to learn from you all. So the Billy Porter thing—

Mark, sometimes things are just— yeah, go ahead, fuck it.

So Billy Porter, uh, just recently did an interview. I'm pulling it up here. Uh, he said that first of all, he identified as a bottom, uh, sexually. Okay, salute. Which I think stunned the world. And then, but he said he hired a professional professional to teach him how to bottom, that he worked, I guess, with a sex worker or whatever.

Yeah, Mark. Yeah, I know it's Pride Month.

It's salute. It's right.

What the fuck do you want us to unpack?

Bring topics in, yo.

Yeah, what would you like us to unpack about this?

Yeah, you watching this? Bottom and wrong.

What you want us to do with this? Because it's Pride Month, bro. No, I, I, I actually felt like, come on, we get it, bro. Like, you got— you can't know what's wrong with this. Well, you talk about him having somebody teach him how to be a bottom, Mark. Come on, bro. You put us in a position to lose, I think, and make—

I'm not putting you in any position. What position do you want to be in, Flip?

I want to be in a position where I'm sitting here and I'm engaging in the topics. However, you're talking about Billy Porter being taught to be a bottom. What, what is— what, what do we need to know about that?

If y'all would stop saying, what do we need to know about it, me tell you.

Go ahead, go ahead, teach us, teach us about being a bottom. Teach us. Ow.

We'll get to the bottom of this right now.

is— well, no, it made me think about like, well, two things. One, I don't know if y'all ever engaged sex work before— sex workers, excuse me— before. No, no. But I also was like, where did y'all learn how to have sex? Where'd y'all learn to be good at sex? You know what I'm saying?

Why you just ask us that, yo?

And you know what I was thinking, if I just said randomly, who taught you how to fuck flip?

I would have answered that.

You my man. Oh shit, I'm sorry.

Bought that. You feel me?

Let me guess, you. Hey, stop. No, sorry. Yo, they destroyed the factory where you learned how to do that.

Um, you were saying flip.

Yeah, I wasn't saying anything, man. I don't— don't try to— I just—

I thought that was a nice transition, cuz when he— cuz my first thought is, well, I don't really care who— no, say— I was thinking like, I don't really care about Billy Porter's sex life, but then I was like, that's—

how do you about him?

That is an interesting— I already know that. I was talking to York.

No, but it, it, it, it's, it's more like—

oh, it's a joke. Go It was more like, oh wait, I guess you do have to learn how to have sex. Some people do it just— you just fuck, fuck, fuck until you get good at it. Sometimes some people do watch porn.

Yes, yes. Is that the answer?

Yeah, part of it.

Yeah, magazines back in the day. I mean, you just like— that's it. Movies, man. You know, we— some of us were not hiring no sex workers. Some of us was actually living in the real world, Mark. We didn't get out of college and go straight into a— some of us was actually outside outside, so we got to experience some shit.

I wasn't outside. You know what I mean?

Well, you were outside, but you was outside after. You was like sleeping on the bench and shit. Oh, what is this? Uh, what's the restaurants that was out back in the days?

Come on, help me, nigga. I don't know.

You know, I have— no, no, I'm not swinging back.

I'm, I'm above that. Are you? No, no, no, I was just— but I was thinking like, it's got to be the worst two-man weave I ever seen. I know. I won't speak for anybody else, anybody in here, not including— but I know a lot of people who did, even if it was just in Vegas, even whatever, they had a lot of sex with people for money. Like, they paid for sex. They paid for it. That's how a lot of niggas learn how to fuck.

Let me jump in here, Mark.

Thank you. No one's going to be— don't chew on the mic. Thank you, Joe. Don't chew on the mic. Don't do that.

Let me jump in here. Don't do that, bro.

Fix your mouth. Good. Yo, no, he got to figure out— he can't do— I got— it was expensive. Over here.

So it's my understanding that y'all are saying most men learn how to fuck from watching porn.

No, no, I'm saying that's part of it. That's part of it.

That's why you went in thinking you knew what you was doing.

Listen, y'all, you don't tell the truth. Listen, listen, I'm older. That's another one. Or hoes. I know we all involved. We all in relationships. Relationships. I don't know what some of us told our partners or didn't tell them, but a girl taught every guy how to fuck. Yeah. Yes, it was a girl. Yeah, she rocked our world.

She was either older or a hoe. That's what we say.

Yeah, she taught us. It's all right, we could tell our partners. Yo, another woman taught us all that shit. We, we could say it. We don't have to lie and say, yo, at 15 I I was putting a porno on.

Oh no, that's where it started.

That's where it starts.

That's where it starts.

And then what happens is you put the porno on, curiosity started at porn, you start to—

you try to do what you think you supposed to do from that, and then she corrects you. Correct. And then she corrects you and like, yo, that ain't it, don't hit that jackrabbit. And this and this and then that.

Yeah, she correct you. But it start— no, you watch the porn and realize you need to find somebody to try some of this stuff on, and you get out there and you realize the baskets that you're shooting at ain't the baskets that's gonna come back and let you try some of this. So you go get Big Freedia, bring her back for some— bring it back for some Big Freedia. Yo, what's free?

Say another name.

Oh shit, New Orleans, New Orleans, backseat, stupid!

Hey, why the fuck are we gonna fuck Big Freedia?

I thank you for disclosing that. That's actually, that's actually dope. Everybody in the clips, make sure you get this part.

Just say another shout out to Big Freedia.

You know how to fuck, but fucking Big Freedia, that's cool.

Reena, you said Freedia. You said Freedia. Y'all said change the name. Y'all doing all this theatrics, so I think I did something wrong. You did.

You'll find out later. You'll find out later. You'll find out later.

Freedia was a girl that you had sex with when you were younger?

Big Freedia?

That's dope. I'm just making up a name, y'all.

I'm telling you, I'm telling you as your friend, just say another name.

That's it.

I did already. That's all we saying. Rita. There we go. Okay, you're Big Rita.

There we go. Just somebody that you can practice on. That's all I'm saying. Got you. And shout out to, uh, Big Fredo. Been a long time. Now they told me what the fuck is going on.

Back to looking out for your friends.

Nigga old and saying shit, Big Freedia.

I learned to fuck by fucking Big Freedia.

Whole room was like, huh?

I thought you was doing that shit again. Hey, he was going down that hill too. Hey, you know what, sometimes when your girl moving in, you got to just go out with a bang, nigga. Yo, he do anything to sabotage it. Hey, listen to that. You said what? Who?

Oh shit. Oh shit, yo. Damn, now that even sound like it's saying freedom. It do. Everything. All right, what else is going on? What else is going on out there?

Holy shit. I'm with divorce court, yo. All right, Billy Porter.

Are we done with Billy Porter?

I think we've—

and Billy Porter is lying. You think he, he, he knew?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you know what, I didn't even think about that too. Why would you have to pay? I mean That means he was paying to—

there you go, to take this. There you go, there you go, there you go. That's the, that's the politically correct, that's the politically correct version of hiring escort. In gay world, you just hired a nigga that's in the— what he like.

And got you, got you. Allegedly, I have no idea. Shout out to Billy Porter. And again, I don't care what he died. Yeah, y'all just made me wonder.

Billy Porter is a lion. I love Billy Porter. Me too.

So what's up with divorce court?

All right, so we got another one that needs our attention. Last week, right, last week it was Jelly Roll. That's true. This week it's LaVar Ball. Damn, damn. LaVar Ball went on a podcast— I think I have the clip here, let me find it— to say that, uh, him and his wife were going going through a divorce. I hate to hear that. Uh, and he said they had, they had their run, you know, with, with my wife, you know.

Rutina decided to go her own way. That's why you don't see her right here. But she want to go do something else, that's fine with me.

We had our run. We had our run.

So even though she had the stroke and getting older, she would never be like, oh man, she was always beautiful in eyes until you say, I want to go do something else. Now you're not as beautiful to me again. The fact that if you decide to go this way, I'm going to go that way, that's fine.

That's deep. It is what it is, man. And like I said, anytime you can find somebody you, you can stay in love with for a long time or for one day or whatever, if you can witness that love, that's good. I had that one, and I found on somebody else, but it is what it is. Wait, who? Goddamn.

No need to worry.

I don't like this one. That's sad.

Yeah, it is sad. Is it?

I don't like this one. It's sad for me.

Tell me, tell me why.

I don't like it because just, I don't know what happened, just on paper, on surface, whatever. He just lost his leg last year.

Mhm. She had a stroke in 2017.

That's why I think they— it evens out. But I stayed. It don't even out.

It don't even out. Which one's worse? No, no, no, no, no.

He stayed. He stayed. Oh, I see.

2017, I'm still here. I lose my leg last year, you out. Yeah. I don't like this. That ain't even.

That ain't— that ain't even at all. Fair about that. And just, you can hear it in his voice. Like, I hear the words, I hear the words, and I believe him. We had our run, it was great while it was great, but I view her differently now since she said she want to go.

She want to go do something else. I believe him.

I believe the fact that I believe him is what hurts. Yeah. Imagine being with somebody a fucking whole life, for 30, 40 years. Y'all have the kids, you raise them, you stick by their side through sickness and through health. And the second you go through something— not the second, because I'm sure he went through shit before— but you get your leg cut cut off, and now that's when your part— your whole life has just changed. Nah, yeah, I find it— look, that's, that's crazy to me.

Yeah, especially after staying with you after you had your shit.

Yeah, that, that's— was it a big stroke? Little stroke? Baby stroke? I'm just saying, all strokes ain't the same either. That's true. Yeah, I'm saying, this is what I say. I have no idea what happened in your relationship. I don't know who's right and I don't know who's is wrong. And whenever somebody after 30 years ends something, for the most part it's not from one thing. No, it's a death of a thousand cuts. Um, if she left him because he got his foot cut off or his leg cut off, that's fucked up. Yeah, that's absolutely fucked up and inexcusable. I find out— I don't know shit about LaVar Ball from what I've seen and from what I've heard. I find it hard to believe that that's the easy motherfucker to live with. I just do. But that you've lived for.

How the hell you get here, Mark?

You gotta— he has to. He—

I'm asking, have you ever seen that interview when he talks about how he, how he moves in his face? Again, I'm not criticizing him. I'm not saying anything wrong. I'm just saying he's a very intense, um, strong-minded, my way or the highway kind of dude. Just how he's described himself and how he's described how he moves the family and controls the family, makes decisions for what they're going to do, what country they're going to live in, what the kids he's gonna do, that basketball's gonna be the center of the world for 30— I'm just saying there's a lot, there's a way that he moves in the world that could be exhausting. Yeah, it just may have nothing to do with the leg. If it doesn't have anything to do with the leg, I understand, I get it. He, he could be— he might be just a tough motherfucker to live with. Conversely, she could be too, and he could have been like, I stayed anyway and now you leaving me, what the fuck? Again, I don't know who's right or wrong. I'm saying I wouldn't assume it's about the to say, because there's a lot of factors.

There's money, there's independence, there's health. There's a lot of shit on the table that we know about. I wouldn't make an assumption that either of them is right or either of them is wrong. I see a lot of people on the internet saying, that's fucked up, she left him for his leg. If this shit ain't— man, I'm doing it like, they're rich, they're old. I don't put it differently. I don't know too many women that would just leave you because your leg got cut off at this age.

Well, he said it, she want to do something else. Yeah, but it ain't even got to be the lead. It could just be her trying to have a conversation saying, yo, I'm gonna open this up, I want to do something different.

The leg is relevant because I'm reading— because I'm reading through his tone. Yeah, everything that you saying could be correct. Yeah, the leg is forcing us to look at a timeline. It's just the optics of it. It's the same thing I said with the joke at the Grammys. Hey, you might normally make this joke, you may normally want leave, but the timing of it— looks away. And hearing him, his— the agony and pain in his voice. He's hurt, bro. And immediately after saying, hey, we had our run, I ain't, I ain't mad, but she did have a stroke. And he did that. Yeah, he did. Yeah. Anybody— hey, y'all that took communications classes out there, I, I was off the hip with it, but tell me about what that means.

Oh no, he's saying— y'all are interpreting correctly what he said. I'm saying I don't assume that the first person that gets to me with their explanation for why our relationship ended is right. I'm not saying he's lying even. People don't be self-aware either. I've seen dudes— I'll give you an example. I've seen dudes have 15 girlfriends, cheat, have babies out of wedlock. I'm not saying— this is not LaVar Ball. This is totally different. I'm just using as a different example. And then they do lose their job, and their wife does leave, and they're miserable at home being even more of an asshole. And then when they wife leave, they go, she left me as soon as I lost my job.

Yeah, but let me get— let me give you another example. Take Parks. We've never done that before. Let's try it. Parks is selling ass down at the shop. Yo, no, no, no, for real. No, tell me what you think of this example. Use Parks.

Parks is a crackhead. Mad crack.

Smoking nothing but crack. I get uncomfortable every time it said, yo, take Parks for example. I'll be like, oh shit, it's never a good for example.

It's not. No, no, it's horrible.

It's absolutely horrible. No, Mark, I feel you. I guess, I guess, I guess it leads me to ask y'all, cuz again, I said at the top of this pod, I'll say it now, it is divorce season.

I think it's weird when people get divorced after being married for like 30-something years with a bunch of health shit. Like, I feel like even if y'all don't like each other or if you want to fuck other people or whatever it may be at that point, you might as well thug it out and figure out a way to live in a different lifestyle together, in my opinion. Like, even like seeing long-married couples like unhappy, it's like, I get that because you're gonna fight with your girl, and I'm sure after 50 years you're gonna fight with them even more. But like, man, especially if you live together, see, that's kind of partners at this point.

Like, that's what I got from what he was saying. I took that like she just wanted to open this up and something different. But in his brain, it was the second you say you want to do that, now I can't look at you the same and I can't be with you. That's kind of what— because it sounded like she said she wanted to leave. It was, yo, she want to do something else now. And now the second you say you want to do something else, I can't look at you the same no more.

Ice, do you believe in timing? Yeah, yeah, you know, listen, absolutely, I understand what Mark is saying. Um, sometimes things go so crazy and times just, it's just time for me to leave. But do you think that him getting his leg chopped off, him not being able to, I don't know what he's able to do at home still, but her seeing him like that and let's say he still tries to express dominance in the house or whatever we were saying earlier. Earlier. Do you think she's saying, man, I got a nigga, your leg is gone, I don't got to put up with this shit? Do you understand? Like, do you think that she could have used—

it's very possible. My point is just all of that is possible.

I've been used to a nigga doing this and he can't do it no more. So now she say, I want to get it from somebody else, right?

And now it's a problem.

It could be something that small that has blown into something else.

It's like usually after 30 years people don't leave for that kind of shit, you know what I mean? You just, you just make a different— all I'm saying again is just the type pushback for me is I don't believe the first person just because they're the first person to explain.

Come out and say something.

Because remember, we had the Meg conversation. It was like, we were like, well, yeah, Meg said she left him, or she, you know, that she went online because he was cheating. Yeah, it was like, we shouldn't believe her just because she's the one talking, or just because she's the one who's allowed us.

Well, that wasn't all— that wasn't the main reason why.

It was because she has a history.

Yeah, but my only point in bringing up is to say, like, it's true just because she said it first. We shouldn't assume it's true just because she said it, said it first or loudest, or is the only one who says something. And a lot of times we do that in any relationship. We believe that whoever says something— oh shit, that's the reason. Oh, this motherfucker is tripping.

And don't diabetes do something to your dick?

Uh, I don't know. I don't know. No, but it's great for weight loss drugs. Oh shit.

Um, when you say more What did you say?

I didn't say anything. I had a joke, but I'm not going to make the joke because that'd be inappropriate. We talk about not crossing boundaries, and so to make a joke that would suggest that you're, you know—

Ah, I don't want to pop with you guys if we can't cross boundaries. You know what he does?

He starts the boundary right now wearing my fucking chain.

This is not your chain. Yeah, it's over. It's over. This is not your chain. This is so disrespectful. And have you ever been in the military? You hear this fan? If you've ever been in the military, Military, they teach you on time is early. And, and, uh, yeah, I'm fucking it up. Early is on time, and on time is late. So I'm just a little early. Okay, I'm just a little early. But judging by your performance these past few weeks, damn, I mean, is this even a good— this is even a question? You sat down, they get so dirty. He sat here eating bagels. He was asleep last week. You were eating bagels?

You just left the set to do it. We were on air. Fans, I hope you see this. This man right here doesn't respect your vote. He said that no matter what you say or what you do, he's still going to claim that chain. He's basically the— oh no, not true.

He's basically the Donald Trump of the— speak—

that's what he doing. He said elections don't count no more.

Don't speak for me. I'm sure in a few days that the votes will reflect, you know what I mean? We'll see. I'm just—

hey, Po, get the lights on.

Yeah, you might need— see if we have something to clean the germs off of this thing. Oh my God, other people have been— anyway, listen, back to this because this is good. I don't think— I think everybody reserves the right to wake up one day and say, I no longer want to be in this marriage. True. Sure. I don't even really think you need a reason to feel like that. So I want to respect I respect people's right to make whatever decision they want to make for their life. How you execute that is judeworthy for me. Exactly. Timing. And unfortunately, timing plays a part. It does. It does. It plays a part in that. I'm sorry, if we've been going through it in the house and we both unhappy, or you look a little more unhappy and you ready to leave, and then I break my leg the next day, or I— it's amputated the next day and you leave. I would expect you to stick around for a little while, even if you want to leave.

Especially if I stuck with you through a stroke. I'm sorry, bro. At the same time, it looks— it just looks— it optically, it looks—

I get you on the opposite.

That's all. I don't know what happened, but just looking at it hypothetically—

again, I'm not talking about LeVar Ball, but let's just say hypothetically there's a relationship where it's easy to stay with the wife who's had a stroke because you're rich, you can pay for medical care, and you can travel around and fuck whoever you want.

The leaps and bounds that Mark take to side with a girl— I'm not siding with the girl.

Phenomenal. You're not listening, that's why. I'm listening. I'm saying I don't believe anybody. I'm saying I don't assume that he's right just because he said it first. If she would have come out and say, I left him because he was a piece of shit cheater, I'm saying we shouldn't believe her either. I'm just saying I don't assume that just because because they got divorced after his leg got amputated, that that's the reason. She could still be a piece of shit. She could be fucking a dude up. She could be fucking a mailman.

So let me ask you, why does he bring up that point of, I stayed with her through a stroke?

Because I have found that when people break up, male or female, male or female, or Big Freedia, whatever, that people are not very self-aware about why people left them. I feel like people always pick the thing that makes them look best. I can see that. That's all I'm saying. So you— so I'm not taking her side. I'm just saying I don't believe a 30-year marriage got so much shit in it, especially when you're rich and famous and live in California, that I don't believe none of this shit. But it's not—

why you only talking about him being— that's what the part that's making me—

I just said both of them.

No, I'm talking about when it came to the money. That's what threw me off. You started talking, you was like, well, when, when you're rich and you— were you talking about both of them? Yes. Okay, got it, got it. That's my point.

She could be fucking the pool boy. Boy. I'm not saying she's in the right.

Don't fuck the pool boy when I just lost my leg.

She might have been fucking the pool boy for 15 years is my point. Just like he could have been fucking for the last 15.

Okay, then you have to take a break when I break my leg. I just—

at least, sorry, just for right now, at least. Sorry, yo.

We raised these kids in this house. They fucking successful. They fucking— and the athletes, right? We in love. We've been married long enough to where as the divorce, you will be set for life with the kids and with me from the divorce. So no, you can't just— no, I'm coming late, I need you to stay here for a second. I do, sorry, I do. We're up in age, we're having health, we're having health issues now. That's the type of nigga I am. If we do— if we was together 30 years and we divorce and you go through a health issue, I'm here for you still, right? Some shit just come off like real fucking balance. And again, forgive me, I've never been married, so I'm not speaking from that angle.

Even the marriage thing, it's just a love thing. But what I'm saying is, again, again, but that's his representation of what happened. And I'm saying, I— it might be 100% true. I just don't assume— in fact, right, in fact, what I have found is the person who goes to the media first and is the loudest about what happened is the most wrong. No, just isn't— it has a, has a distorted idea.

It's usually a reason why they're going into media first.

Sometimes it's for sympathy. I mean, we, we had this exact conversation about Meg, and it was like, well, she's going first, so we should— just because she went first and said her case the loudest about how Clay treated her doesn't mean that she's right.

If you, if you was in a situation like that, would you go and, and say that we noticed something different? Would you tell that, oh, it was my fault and stuff like that? Wouldn't you feel away? I wouldn't talk about it at all.

Okay, but hold on, but let me finish.

Would you, would you feel away if something happened and you got, God forbid, knock on wood, and your wife just left you even though y'all been going through issues, wouldn't you want her to stay? Of course.

But in that particular example you give, you've laid out all the facts. I'm saying, what if there's 5 other things? You know what I mean? And I don't want to keep— because if I keep giving hypotheticals, it sounds like I'm saying that he did those things, and that's not my point.

But even if there was 1,000 things that we did wrong, you still think that the person shouldn't stay and help care for you in a moment of need?

This is where the money thing comes in. And again, I keep going to Meg because I think it's such such an interesting example because when I was like, yo, they live together, and Joe was like, yeah, but they all got like this rich— they got like 10 houses. Yeah, like this ain't your Aunt Bessie who don't got nobody to care for her when she get the gout. These niggas are rich. He doesn't need her to be there to take care of him medically. True. And I could be with somebody else and still be there for you, you know what I mean?

Again, no, I don't like that one. And again, it's hypothetical, so I'm not gonna—

it depends on what happens. It's the comfortability, it's Trust is, it's what it— I, I can guarantee that you willing to do, or you would do things that this next person might not do. You have to start all over if you, if you fucked up and meet somebody, you know what I mean? Even if you hire a nurse, or even if you hire somebody, it comes with things then with your significant other is there to take care of you, right?

You know what it sounds like? It sounds like just from listening to him—

and somebody close us out—

that he was blindsided by this. That's really what it is. And that's why I tend Like, I sound like he's saying damn now.

Have you ever left a woman and she was blindsided and you— and you— it was clear to you that you was leaving? Yes, she should. Very few people are blindsided is all I'm saying, if they— if they're self-aware. That's not true.

Come on, we got— now we got to put it— that's not true though. That is not true. That's— that's not true, bro.

Factually telling you something, that's not true. Tell me how.

Because many people are mindset.

I said in 30-year relationships. Oh, I ain't hear that part. Somebody— yeah, somebody could leave you. I mean, obviously somebody could be like, I met somebody, I went away to the BET Awards, met a nigga, he rich. I get that.

I would, I would actually— now that I heard that part, and that's fair because I didn't hear that, but now that I've heard it, I would actually argue— I'm still gonna argue the other side. I think if you're with somebody for 30 years, it can become really easy to miss all signals and signs.

That's what I'm trying to say. Maybe, maybe I'm not being clear. I'm saying there are signals there that you don't pay attention. That's why you're going back to self-awareness.

But if he wasn't paying attention and he missed them, then from his POV, the rug was pulled from underneath him.

Yeah, I hear that. That's what I'm saying.

And you're saying in real life, in real life, the signs always there, and they're usually telling you those signs.

And a lot of times it's not that you don't hear them, it's you don't think they're going nowhere. We take them for granted. Everybody. True. You know what I mean?

Y'all's is going somewhere. Yeah, shit.

No, absolutely not.

I have mechanisms I think you made a word for that.

Holy shit. Don't say that. Don't say that about the doctor. No, no, but—

oh, that's hilarious. I'm so happy, man.

I ain't gonna lie, because you be doing that a lot. I thought about that at home. You crack jokes on yourself. Talk about Mama Love, talk about your wife. Listen, I was like, this nigga is a savage.

But I know— no, no, but they're self-deprecating jokes. I make jokes about my wife and her personal trainer. Like, I don't make jokes like I'm leaving or cheating on her or anything like that. I make jokes about her. No one makes about me being on— I'm on the receiving end of the joke.

No one makes jokes about leaving or cheating their wife neither. I know. Okay, I wasn't saying you did. I make sure—

no, no, we make jokes, which is annoying you, and it's inappropriate.

Would you say— would you acknowledge?

We got so much stuff to talk about, man. I don't want to get bogged down and just—

to me, all right, so So, so now in more news that Joe Budden should not be the person to speak about or bring to the airwaves, but I'm gonna do it. Let's hear it. So Jennifer Lewis recently did a podcast where she was speaking to Keke Palmer. Um, now you may forget what I was saying. Jennifer Lewis was talking to Keke Palmer and she was talking about— I'm gonna play this clip— she was talking about about her sex addiction that she used to have. Hold up, hold up, hold up. There's no shame. Here we go. I, I, um, I talk about everything in my memoir, The Mother of Black Hollywood. Everything from my addictions to molestations, abortions, childhood abuse. There's no shame in my game. Yeah, bitch, it happened. You know, I slept with 60 people. I love her. That was fun. But then, oh my gosh, give me some of that. You don't want that.

You know what I wish I had known?

I wish I'd known my body was a temple. I didn't know it.

I know it now.

And what let you know that maybe?

Temple University.

Oh, I thought I was having a little bit of a problem. Oh, shit.

I thought I thought it was Mark. Oh, that's fucked. That isn't him. Swallow my boo. But anyway, yeah. No, no, no.

I didn't know it was a problem.

The addiction. Look, when you get off a Broadway stage and all that ovations and applause and people praising you and the mobbage and the homage, what are you gonna do? You're gonna either go put something in your arm, you're gonna go smoke something, you're gonna drink something to come down from that high. So I used to just go find a gorgeous man and fuck out of them. What are you gonna do? I love it. I would have sex. Sex was the drug. Okay, now first of all, shout out to the queen, Jennifer Lewis. Always, we absolutely love Jennifer Lewis. And I just shot a keycap on for no reason. Um, I only brought this up to tell Jennifer Lewis that they've upped these holes These hoes have updated the whole rules since you was out there slinging it, mama. So I, I applaud you for even saying on a platform, I had a sex addiction and I slept with 63 men. That's what she said. Yeah, I didn't hear the number. No, she said Jennifer Lewis. Hey girl, that's a good girl. That ain't ain't no sex addiction. Could be. It's a hot summer. Yeah, that's a, that's a hot few summers, Jennifer Lewis.

You was outside, not even a few. That's all, Auntie. You was outside.

Exactly. Summers, right? 63 men. Ain't she about 63? Jennifer Lewis. Well, how old is she? The whole— the updated hoes, the, the today hoes with a sex addiction, that number is triple. Oh shit, that's zero. That number's at like 6,000 something unless she was running them back a lot, dog. She's 69.

She can sleep with 63 dudes. That's not bad.

Wait, she meant for her whole life? I thought she meant over like a small period.

No, she's saying that's her number. She's saying her number is so high because she had a sex addict. That's what I'm saying. Jennifer Lewis.

I just assumed it was like that year or two. I thought it was like a year or two, like a stretch.

Yeah, that ain't no sex addiction.

You been fucking for 50 years and you had— that's It's like, yeah, it's not crazy.

It's not crazy. That ain't—

yeah, I mean, you can still have a sex addiction because you can be fucking the same 10 people.

It's not crazy. 22-year-olds is at fucking 7,000 and ain't stopping no time soon either. Wow. That ain't nothing. That ain't Jennifer Lewis. Oh yeah, girl. Yeah, 63 ain't shit. Hey man, that ain't a thing. Ain't nothing.

Yeah, I'm disappointed.

That's fresh for some of these hoes, right?

63. That's all I got on that one. I don't have anything else. I just wanted to tell Jennifer Lewis, hold ahead.

Oh yeah, mama.

Where is she?

Yo, it just hit you he wasn't there?

Say it again, I'm sorry. But we know that you're in cahoots with your boss, so give me a second. Earlier, yeah, earlier your boss stated that Ish was coming in later. He's just running in a little late, so I'm thinking that he's gonna pop up like I did.

Don't say Mark, boss, because you're on your last week. You got another day. Tuesday is the 30th. He keep thinking the 30th is Monday. It's Tuesday though.

It's obvious I've been getting my dates wrong. It's Tuesday. Let me get my shit off. Where is that?

Yo, he was like, oh, this starts the last year of my contract.

Nice. It's not about you, boy.

Once the first hits. Yeah, yeah, but that's mad long. July 26th. 7. Hey, sit tight. Call me and make sure, you know, make sure.

Yeah, I'm not in cahoots. No, no, no, I'm not with none of that.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. How that kick gig will look on you versus how it looks on Mark.

How you know about that? Hey yo, that's what I'm saying. When you be announcing shit, yo, how you know about that, bro? Careful. How you know about about that? I don't like it. Ian, I'm gonna fuck you up, yo. You see what I'm saying? It's supposed to be for life, nigga.

That's how you feel it? Go ahead, start that Trump shit. We gonna go over there and knock you out, nigga. You think, you think the JB people don't got cake? We'll pop up on cake, nigga, just to kick a nigga. Can you stop? Yeah, just to jump somebody.

Ain't no deal. Listen, where, where, where?

Yeah, they said the itch is not here because Mom Donnie stabilized the rent. Oh shit, I saw that. I thought it was— oh shit, and the reasonable doubt.

That's why I said itch ain't here.

Hope made itch do the fireworks.

Oh shit, that was other big story, uh, Mom Donnie. I mean, that's a big deal. You saw yesterday they announced 2 million people's homes, uh, are rent stabilized. Guys. And more to come. And more to come.

And more to come. And all those people won the local elections.

Yeah, they, they, they showed out. 2-year rent freeze. They voted 7 to 1. I'm sorry, it's 1 million rent-stabilized apartment, uh, 1 million people, not 2 million people, 1 million people, 2-year rent freeze. That's a big fucking deal. He done got rent freeze, public food, uh, you know, access to public food. You talking about daycare, public bathrooms. He brought y'all a championship. I mean I mean, look at politicians doing what they're supposed to do.

Yo, what do you know?

Are you, are you going to join, are you joining his cabin?

No. Come on, Mark, did he come at you? Did he come—

you mean cabinet?

I was going to ask cabinet.

Cabinet. He only got a few days left.

I just let it rock. I know how you play.

You may go in a nigga cabin. Um, call me.

Hey, I do need the Mondami plug though. I need to take over that DJ gig at that story of Fireworks next year, man. Yo, they was playing some bullshit.

I might actually be able to hook it up. No, deadass. Okay, I will make—

you know what bothers me a little bit though? Like, nigga, vote. I like— I like Maldonado for real. I really like him. However, it's like, come on, Eric Adams, let Maldonado come in and smoke you. Oh, he smoked Eric Adams. That shit tight, yo.

I'm tight, yo. Goddamn. I hate that the black guy had to be the one turn.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

Yeah, it's like— and he wasn't the one terrible mayor, but I said the one-term guy. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Oh yeah, he had to go.

Yeah. And Dinkins, one term. But, but like, he— but the people like— he wasn't terrible. He was like every other mayor. People like Dinkins though.

No, Adams was horrible.

Yeah, I heard a lot of New Yorkers saying—

but I think Bloomberg was horrible.

He horrible. And I'm not into politics.

Like, I think, I think— yeah, I mean, I didn't like Eric Adams at all, but I think some of it was his personality, how he, how he performed too. They locking up all his niggas. Yeah, I just don't want to hold him to a higher standard.

You didn't like the way the bravado, like how he was just— it seemed like he was one of us.

Sometimes he seemed dismissive. Sometimes he seemed dismissive of shit that he shouldn't have been. That's, that's the part. Oh yeah, with the church people.

Remember me and Joe was talking about that. Remember he did some bullshit that he had the church choir— he did a press conference outside and had the people hyping him for the church choir. Joe was like, I can't believe this motherfucker broke the church out.

No, he put put fucking 20,000 officers in the train station from that. Like, he just was doing— he took money from here or put it over here, gave it to his people, had his man be the chief over here. He was just— but he was, he was— I don't want to say he might sue me. Corrupt.

A lot of people say he had to go.

He looked corrupt.

That's what I said. It looked great.

No, a lot of things. Glad that we didn't get an Eric Adams speech when the Knicks won. Oh my God, I'll tell you that.

Might have enjoyed that. Oh, I know that.

Anyway, we can't let Mark do all this mom downy shit while Ish not here. Don't talk behind his back. Wait till your opp is here to fucking take the other side.

My opp, man, shit, shout out to Ish. He came on in this thing together this last week, man. My subs through the roof, man. Talk about it. 80% of the people, you know, not, you know, criticizing him, but like, no, but he brings them.

That light's getting criticized.

John Hope, some of his takes, they disagree with some of his takes. Oh, that's good. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's a great— get the party started.

Got more engagement than the previous guest you had on?

Uh, Imani. Um, yo, yeah.

Oh, he's up again, boy.

Yeah, especially from the women. He did it again, especially from the ladies. He got you again, boy.

Damn, he like, what, 5-0, nigga?

Sash wasn't even here for that one. That's crazy.

I ain't going to say—

oh, that's who should be next, Sasha. I'mma invite her. I would Well, yeah, sure. I got to clear that one. Let me check. Yeah, let me check with production.

You know she ain't— you know OG ain't into that.

You didn't clear any of the other co-workers. You have to clear Sasha. It's fine. Oh, you mean with the wife?

Yes.

I thought he meant me.

Oh no, I don't give a fuck about that. I said—

oh, sometimes you got to tuck your narcissism. Freeze.

He know itches that nigga. Look, he know he got— that's him. He know itches that nigga. Hey, look, yourself through the roof, right? We don't need to acknowledge that boy. We know. I think all my friends are dead. We know light-skinned Hope, he got it.

I think all my friends are dead.

Now fuck all your friends, we talking about Ishmael, nigga.

But I think all my friends are dead. Salute Ishmael in their own right.

Yeah, you know nothing about that, man.

I call my brother son because he's trying to— why you worried about everybody's content? Don't worry, yo, don't worry, Tuesday will come. You don't need to worry about anybody else.

Everybody else chilling. It's your Jay Leno. Oh well, you know, Mr. Leno talking shit about— now he ain't gonna talk shit about you, but you know.

Do he know Leno? I don't even like—

if you don't know, even if Leno existed, I don't even like your impersonation. It should be on Leno. No, I think— no, what I'm saying, I think he's a good kid. Yeah, like he was good.

He don't do that. He be gregarious.

Shout out to Ish, man. We love you, bro. This is more than an hour late, but I excuse it, man. Go get your rent from them niggas.

Hope whatever's going on, he's all right.

No, go pick your money up, man. I don't have anything else that I need to say. I do want to hear y'all's opinion on the LaMelo Ball trade. Uh, I think the Wolves lost.

I think it's gonna be fun. What'd they give up?

A lot of picks. And Nas Reid. Nas Reed, a 2033 first round pick, 3 years of pick swaps, and 3 second round picks. Goddamn, that's a lot. That is a lot. No, they gave up a lot. Yeah, it's hot.

But I think the showtime though— oh yeah, but showtime ain't always win time. I agree.

I don't think the Timberwolves should be in the showtime business. I think they have a young star entering his prime who is placing expectations upon the team, so they had to make a splash and make a move. But that move is coming off you already making an incorrect move. It has to hurt trading Karl Towns. Yeah. And then seeing him beat all the criticisms about him and win it. What, then ended up trading Julius Randle? Julius Randle, you trade him for a bag of potato chips, but just to clear cap space. Yeah, to bring in LaMelo. But now you got to also trade another fan favorite in Nas Reid. Size is out there. You trading a 6'10 dude that can handle the ball and hit a 3? Y'all talking about it's gonna be Showtime in fucking, uh, Minnesota. I think it might be Showtime in Charlotte. Charlotte. Here's the one. Miles Bridges, Brandon Miller. Oh, that's Kobe White, who anytime he started on the Bulls put up— he put up numbers. Yeah. Canipple. Yeah, yeah.

I think here's the only thing I disagree with, with that is I think Carl Anthony Towns— because, because I, I— first of all, I don't— I'm not a Julius Randle guy. I just, I think that—

shout out to Jules, I love you—

he's a very talented basketball player, but when— was LA, whether it's New York— I'm not sure he's the guy you lean on when you want to win a I, I just, I just think he— his decision-making sometimes down the stretch doesn't make me happy, and he disappeared a couple times in the series. But my bigger point is, I think Karl-Anthony Towns is a great player, but I think he also elevated his level, not just of basketball, but his intensity, his toughness, his focus. Definitely got it. He did, being on that Knicks team. So I'm saying, if he stays in Minnesota, I'm not sure you get what the Knicks got from him.

No, man, it still hurts. I'm just talking about the pain you feel.

It's still gotta hurt. Pain.

Yes, only talking about the pain. And regardless of whether he, uh, evolved or not, he could help them for sure. He could help them.

Yeah, for sure. I had an NBA question. Is it over for Ja Morant?

Yeah, I don't— you think so?

Yes, I, I think so. I hate that.

That's— it is over. We're talking about skill.

We're not talking about how he's loved by them. It's all over. His skill is bad. All that shit is over.

He's so talented, but I'm saying he's talented, but yeah, I don't— I don't think like a change of scenery wouldn't help I think it will, but I just think it's lower than I thought it was before.

It's a good question. I don't know.

I don't think nobody want him. Well, that's part of the challenge.

Yeah, they're not able to trade him for a Slim Jim right now. Really? The commercials, not so much. We ain't seen his dad on the sidelines in a while. We ain't seen explosives from him in a while. It's kind of over. It's over though. It's over. I was never that invested to— for this to hurt. Like, I'm not a Grizzlies fan. I was a fan him.

But to see this—

I love the way he plays basketball. When you blow it, he's fun to watch, I should say.

He is. Now, when you blow it— I feel about Ja Morant the way that Mark feels about Floyd. I'm glad you said that. I disagree how Mark feels about Floyd. I disagree with that. Ja, this is not a bragging thing or just watching somebody be happy in their spot. This is somebody that we watched take full advantage of his spot, almost like it couldn't be taken from him. I never got that from Floyd bragging, but I respect your stance on it. Uh, yeah, John Morant. Yeah, Mr. Rapsody, don't you—

don't you believe in people? You know, you, you champion people because I remember when we did talk about John Morant, you were saying that, you know, he needs a new environment. Yo, shape up, get yourself together because the league is slowly pulling themselves. You're not the poster child or the face, whatever they were trying to make him. You gave a whole speech when you want to see him overcome that instead of just saying it was over. Over when we want to see him, especially based off his talent. Because is he playing bad? I don't, I don't watch Ja. Is he playing bad?

Uh, he's not playing how he used to play. Okay, but he's coming off injury.

Post-injury is harder to say, but yeah, I agree with you. He's not— he doesn't look the same.

Nobody cares. Okay, that's, that's really what it is. That's the problem. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. You could be playing phenomenal, nobody cares, yo.

All that face of the league shit is— they passed. Oh, that's right. Yeah, it's over. I don't think there's nothing he could do. Couldn't trust you to get that back to the league.

We couldn't trust you to be the face of an organization. We couldn't trust you to be a leader of men. We couldn't trust you to carry us and make some leeway in the playoffs. Remember them niggas in that fucking Western Conference Finals for you? They blew up the whole team. Bane left, fucking Dylan Brooks left, all these niggas left and popped somewhere else. This is bad leadership from you. Who else is giving you the keys to their franchise? I don't see it. Ja Morant, I wish you nothing but the best, but the Knicks won a championship. I don't give a fuck about the rest of you niggas. Um, what else, what else, what else, what else, what else? Uh, okay, so I gave my Lamelo, uh, trade thoughts. Uh, new Future album announced next month, July 10th. How's the single sound? Right in time for the summer. I have not heard any records. Drop a new single called Radio. Um, let's hear it. Let's play it.

Yeah, yeah.—

future radio record.

I don't know about radio record. I like it.

It don't feel like a first single to me. It feels like a warm-up.

You don't like it, Freeze? I like it. It's, it doesn't, it's not mind-blowing.

It's not, it ain't song of the summer.

I want to run back. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's okay.

It's good though. I like it. I like it. It feels good. I just, it ain't, it ain't a smash though.

This ain't the future I want to hear.

Feels like a warm-up.

Yeah, I ain't doing it.

This is not the future I want to hear for me.

They ain't doing it for me either, but I'm sure be on that album for me. Yeah, for sure.

I was called The Real Me.

Yeah, yeah, that alone, 20-something songs, 22 songs.

Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get to it.

And that Drake version should come in.

Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, it might be a couple.

Yeah, yeah.

Is it, is it now the proper time, music people, to call it for the song of the summer? Is it official official, or is it still some late, some dark horses that are gonna pop up?

Summer started 2 weeks ago, but I'm down.

No, but a lot of times You know in June. Yeah, you know. That's what I'm saying. Like, don't be like, sometimes you don't know what I'm in August.

I hate to say it, and I hate to say it, I think it's— I think it's— I think it's that. I think it's that too.

It's that. You right, you right.

Spend that shit. Yeah, hell yeah.

It fucks every place up I've ever been, and I've been outside. I thought so too.

But y'all not tired of being late to things? Like, before y'all— I sort of like it. Before y'all give credit to this record. Cool, that's fun. Glad we've all come around. But the look y'all gave me, like, y'all looked at me like I had 7 heads, like I was an alien.

I think you misremembering it. It was, it was more because, like, I'm sure people will like— I said this record don't do it for me, but I know it's gonna go up because— but I thought it was gonna go for women. I didn't think it was gonna go for dudes like that.

Yeah, I didn't expect that.

That's the part that shocked me. I, I told you, I said if I'm outside gonna— it's gonna be great, I said. But I don't— I just don't love the record. But then after I heard Outside, I kind of started liking it. Yeah.

Uh, Janice is still having a great— yes, a great time out there. It is. Janice is second.

Yeah, oh, Shameng is still great out there too. Both of those—

that's what I got for Song of the Summer options. Yeah, as of now, it's Karisha and Shut the Fuck Up. I think Janice might have ran away.

Yeah, still not my—

are you going to Janice party?

Am I going to what?

The Janice party. It is about Janice.

As a Janice, yeah, it's about— very valid question.

That's why I'mma pass on that one, y'all. I'm probably not gonna head out. Probably not gonna head out to that one. Probably just stay on in the house. Fair. Spin that shit. Spin that shit. I gotta hear that on my Final Freedom Friday while spinning. Final Freedom Friday. Yeah, I gotta hear that on Final Freedom Friday.

She bodied that that shit though, son. Yeah, seriously, never count them out.

JT, step on that record, man. No, come on, boy. Hey, oh, my least favorite time of the day, when this broadcast comes to an end.

Yeah, so bittersweet.

Oh yeah, man. Yeah, hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering bringing it to you. Again, shout out to our brother Ish.

We love you, Ish. Love you.

Here with us in spirit. Shout out to our sister Mona. Love you, Mona. We absolutely love y'all. Keep each one of us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, we bid you a due farewell. Adios, arriba, derci, au revoir, hasta la vista, or so long, goodbye. Or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass, so let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab a Tylenol. I see the little tears in your eyes. I don't want to fall. Hey, they are wondering. Do you know my little phrase? Let me hear you in the crowd here. 40 and up, 40 and up!

Oh, what if you cry?

I wonder why you cry. I tell you no lie, this is how I feel. You need to know Baby, I knew me and Imani friendship fell off, nigga. You hear me out here crooning, you don't come hit the backgrounds or nothing, you bitch-ass nigga. Left you out there on your own. Yeah, word. Let me give another word. What y'all on this weekend? What y'all on this weekend, man? What y'all doing?

Running around, running around, running around, doing a show in Mount Vernon with Rasheed Chappelle, DJ for him Saturday night. Doing a party tonight for Rem's coworker doing some content Saturday afternoon. Sunday I'm sleeping.

I love it. I'll be out, I'll be out. My brother's having an Arsenal of Friends shit, so he's having, um, quite a few performances and shit. So I'm gonna pull up on him. Got his new project getting ready to drop. He's finishing it, putting the finishing touches on it. All right, big artist. Yeah, he's out. He got out here yesterday.

Nice. Oh, you want to go?

What day? Tomorrow. Shout out to Ars, man. Man, big jersey, big jersey. Mark, what you on? What you on this weekend?

Chilling with my kids and grandkids. I told you I'm making up for Father's Day because I was out of town last week. Oh, right, right. So we gonna kick it this weekend, have a good time. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Who's cooking? Nobody in my house. OK, good. I'm ordering out to my favorite soul food spots. There you go. I might put the grill on, though.

I'm so for real. What you doing, Joe? I'm so for real. I'm a real one. I'm a real— listen here, man. But if you want to know the truth about it— what am I doing? Just can't live without it. I'll tell you after the bridge. I'm pretending I'm you, baby. Here we go. So that I can live my whole life with you. And baby, baby, baby, baby. Uh, what am I doing? What you doing this weekend? Freedom. Listen, man, I'm trying to enjoy a little bit of freedom, man, before my baby gets here. I ain't got too much planned. Probably go out to eat, get a little salad, some croutons, olives, and shit. Might hit the market, pick up some charcuterie. Sure. Yeah, I mean, might bond with my baby, watch something on the iPad with him. There you go. Clean the house in preparation for the love of my life and my soulmate to get here merge families. Make sure there's no dust in the house, right? Right. Make sure there's no fucking old work on the iPad. A little sage, maybe. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sage. Get all the Sims out of there.

Oh yeah, get all of that out the house. Uh, make sure any bitches that's hitting me that wasn't supposed to hit me ain't in my phone. Gotta clear that out. Yeah, I mean, you know, just get new numbers. That part too. That's all. Got a lady-proofed house. Got a lady-proofed Oh, you need to know, you need to know. Oh baby, I'm for real. Wipe the tears. Yeah, these niggas ain't stop for it. Y'all hold it down out there, man. Same time, same place. Enjoy your weekend. Remember, Tupac cares if don't nobody else care. No Joe Biden! No Joe Biden! No Joe Biden! No Joe Biden! No Joe Biden! No Joe Biden! No Joe Biden! JBP, JBP, where would you be without the JBP? You've never heard of Joe Biden?

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