Transcript of Episode 951 | "On The Record"

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What is—

what's your—

turn it on. Who you think she pointing at? See, you think you already shooting at me, and I love you. I don't want no smoke today. But when Mona was singing the thick one, she was pointing at you. Ain't nothing wrong with it.

We like the thick one.

Hey, it's so hard to pick one.

How many C's? One.

Just one. Just one.

Strong thick too. It ain't that mushy shit.

Women like thick men though.

Hey, it ain't that mushy, flob thick. It's solid.

Yeah, that counts too.

Nah, you looking good.

You look great, boy.

Nothing.

She complimented you, bro.

Thank you.

She's not going to say a word.

Everything is on the record. So we—

we ain't saying a word.

He acted like he wasn't being brought in for questioning.

Wasn't me.

A reporter came in. We have a reporter here, y'all.

It wasn't right.

Audience, we have a real reporter here.

Whoa, don't do Mark like that.

Oh, I'm fine with that. He got a notepad and everything. But y'all, before you came in, he came in, he was kind of just milling about, you know, doing that thing.

That thing that reporters do.

Exactly.

Hey, don't mill about in here.

But then Mona started talking. And Mona was talking—

Oh, God. Damn.

About the show.

Yo, you know how we could prevent that from ever happening again? If the company told us, hey guys, there'll be a reporter here today.

Oh, that'd be good.

Wouldn't I be fired?

That'd be good. That'd be an interesting proposition. That's crazy.

Company got to talk to you for you to be distinguished. The company got to talk to you for you to have some fucking class. Hey, all right, hey, company here. Y'all should try having some class.

He slipped in pause and ain't nobody even realize.

I was like, there's a strange white man walking around with a notepad. Let's not talk about shit we don't want people to know that might go in said notepad.

Yeah, I asked Ice, was he a cop?

Street smart people.

Right.

Ish, once my man said, uh, everything's on the record, which is why I was telling y'all, like, if you're in a room, it's on the record. Ish ain't said a word. I asked Ish what time it was.

He started throwing up signs.

Yo, yo, yo, yo, that's game time.

This nigga start breathing through his nose.

Ish the one he need to talk to. I think he's from, uh, newjersey.com. Yeah, yeah, come on, man.

Hey, this is Mr. New Jersey.

Yeah, he is newjersey.com, actually. That's true.

Keefnewjersey.com.

That's hilarious. You wouldn't leave the mayor's face when he was in here. Don't act shy now, right?

Right.

He was all in the mayor's face begging for lots. Now he's shy and don't want to talk. Wouldn't get out of Mayor Smalls' face when he was looking for them condominium buildings.

Mayor Smalls and I would talk about basketball. Unfortunately, you're not that athletic.

Yeah, how many basketballs can fit in this thousand-door— how many basketballs you think I can fit in this thousand-door building I want to put up? All right, man, though, no, that's fire, that's fire. It's good to see y'all.

Good to see y'all.

How y'all doing? Good, I'm good, I'm real good, real good. Big Mona, what's up?

I'm chilling.

You got a gig this weekend? Why you got the— why you— why you looking good?

I wanted to get dressed.

Hello.

That's it?

That's all you need sometimes. Listen, by the time y'all are hearing this episode It is officially August.

Yeah.

Yes.

Today, however, is July 31st. This is the first time in my entire life I've actually had to acknowledge 31 days in July. This is the longest month ever.

It has been.

It's kicking my ass.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've been chase to chasing all month. Where's the next chapter? Hey, fuck with these lisses talking about chasing the chasing. I'm so happy it's August. Yeah, get the fuck out of here, July.

It's over.

It is over. It's goodbye. Oh my God.

You ain't lying.

All the bills hit in July.

Yeah.

And apparently I got two kids in college. Yo, this shit is crazy out here. For real. I got two kids in college. Yeah, goddamn it. Woke up to that epiphany.

That's deep though.

That's like heavy too. Shit is hitting this month.

So much at once is crazy.

This month? Oh man, don't get me to talking about it now.

I don't know, the last time I saw you, I had— I went out and I partied with Trey. You know Trey popped out with me last weekend.

Oh, for real?

Yeah, Trey was rolling with his Aunt Mona.

Are you just learning this on air?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's awesome.

I have another son that's partying with Mona. Yeah, you want to talk about somebody life just being in ruins. You approve of Why is my 25-year-old baby? What's going on, Mo? What you did?

It was a hostin', it was a—

Where at?

A nightclub in Delaware.

Oh, wait, wait, wait.

I'm trying to put some miles on that bitch.

Yo, he ain't learned his lesson yet.

That's the part I was waiting for.

Where did this happen at?

Wait a minute. Me, I want everybody in here to know that I told Mr. Button when I found out, when I found out, I said, yo, look who poppin' out with Mona. Remember we had a brief little, You said some slick shit, I'm not repeating.

And, um, no, not the slick shit.

Yeah, I'm not gonna repeat that.

Oh, I'll say it. I said, oh, look at my son reaching out to Mona to hang out even though he didn't give his grandparents his new phone number.

Because he said Mona got a new number, and then I showed Dad. Here go Dad. Oh, he couldn't get his pop-pop. I'm like, oh, this nigga too old. That's like, what the fuck? Why are we going straight to he ain't give his pop-pop the number?

I'm a parent. I'm a parent.

Wait, but why was your son in Delaware?

And you a parent?

To hang with me. To hang with me.

Who knows? Dealing drugs. He's a journalist here. He works at a dispensary.

I think Trey got his eye on somebody.

You think Trey what?

He got his eye on somebody.

Why do dudes— I can't hear y'all. We ain't about to do what?

No, because Corby said he went all the way to Delaware. Like, niggas ain't got on the road.

Come on, bro.

For a girlfriend, we was going to pop.

Bro, stop.

We wasn't going to—

this nigga picked up and moved his entire life.

Ain't nothing wrong with it.

To Amish country.

To Amish country.

Touché.

He wasn't popping. He popped in and ain't leave. What you talking about?

You went to Amish country for a girl?

Did he? Not for a girl, but it wasn't Allentown. He was the biggest shovel out there. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

I always get it twisted.

I know. Damn.

No, but I think, um, I think that was— I think he got his eye on somebody. But we had a good time and then went because he brought a couple— a friend or two or something. And he was just like, how did they get there? They were with him. He didn't come along.

All right, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

He didn't come along, y'all.

Don't worry about it. That little Lexi for 2 seconds.

He bought one of his line brothers for Auntie.

Stop.

I want the thick one. I want the thick one. Oh shit.

I hate those so much. Listen.

Oh shit.

He was— first of all, Trey Most High didn't carry himself club. He looked very cute. He don't act like a weirdo in the section. Like, he's cool. People kept saying, damn, I like Joe Button.

No, he's smooth when he out.

Yeah, very smooth.

Yeah, he's smooth.

Trey was cool.

I told y'all, every time we go to the strip club, he start having a 59-minute conversation with the craziest girl there. Did I tell y'all that?

Yeah, he wanted to know things about the tree and that apple.

I love when they do that to you. Do it again, do it again!

I like that part.

Hurry up!

That's hilarious.

Nah, yeah, it might genetic.

I'm glad you asked.

Trey said he wanted to get out of Jersey, so he got out of Jersey.

That's how—

yeah, you made sure you were safe.

Yeah, I had to call my kid.

I don't know why.

I'm gonna call, I'm gonna call my kid and see what's going on with him.

It's probably a good idea. Yeah, if you got the right number.

Yeah, right.

You gotta make sure you get the number from—

check him on up.

Well, I'll ask him first. Is he cool with it? Because I know he didn't want his grandparents.

There you go. Yeah, Mark, how you doing, man?

I'm doing great, man. I'm doing good, great, lovely.

Everything all right?

I sounded a little apprehensive.

No complaints at all. Everything's good. Why wouldn't it be? Everything's fine. Everything's fine, Joe.

This nigga's a psycho deep down.

For sure.

Like, you know, like when somebody kill a thousand people at the job. No shade. Just text me first.

Do it on a Tuesday.

Yeah, please.

Everything's on the record here.

Oh, fuck.

Totally not a psycho. I'm totally not a psycho.

Um, this episode comes out in July, we do have an official Potter of the Month.

August.

I mean August, I'm sorry about that. This episode comes out in August. We do have an official Potter of the Month.

I can't wait.

Nice.

But technically, because it's the last day of July, do I have to pass the chain now or do I wait till next?

You can pass it to yourself.

I think you should pass it now.

And before we announce who it is, I just want to say that my vote—

no, no need to say it.

They just ping-ponging this shit. If it's my boy, I'mma jump up, I swear. Yeah, this is a fucking joke. This shit rigged, bro. Fuck this shit.

Oh shit. Oh shit. My motherfucking nigga! My motherfucking nigga!

2 chains.

Hello.

You may have a lot of change.

You want me to help? You really look like, um, Yeah, I mean, now you got two joints up there.

Congratulations.

Congratulations.

Congratulations.

Thank y'all.

Thank y'all.

Thank y'all.

I'm shocked. I'm shocked.

Is this your first?

Is this his first time? No, it's my second one.

First time since I think March of 2024.

Is there anybody that has never gotten it ever?

I don't think so.

Everybody got it like once.

Uh, all right, so now, uh, Freeze, you want to say anything to the people out there?

Thank you. Like, I didn't, I didn't expect it, so I don't even have a speech.

What'd you say, Mark?

Huh? I didn't hear you.

I sent you a tweet this morning congratulating you.

I haven't been on Twitter.

Oh yeah, I sent you a nice little—

she just a little jealous.

No, I was rooting for you.

I was totally—

in fact, I sent you a note yesterday, Joe, saying this is great.

You did, you did text me.

You was hating on Ice?

No, no, no, no, no.

Behind closed doors. I honestly— Ice killed the whole month. I thought he, I thought he deserved one a couple months ago. Ice deserved it 3 months ago, like, it's been like 2 or 3 months where you should have gotten it, but you were one of the final 2. So this is— and you won handily.

Boy, Mark was in my phone livid about it. Absolutely, yo, absolutely livid.

How early in the morning?

About the finalists. Oh, it was early. It was in the morning.

I would just start letting him lie, just add to it. Yeah, it was like 4 AM.

Say it again, I'll pull it up. But you my man.

I was crying.

So you my man, so I ain't gonna expose it. But okay, just know— and I keep keeping I bet. Hold up now, I want to expose Hater.

So I got a phone too. Think about them phones, right?

They go both ways. Them too. Oh shit, this nigga text you back when you text him? Oh shit, I don't know.

He don't text you back?

No, not even—

but you can't say that though, cuz you got like 10 different numbers.

Not even Apple Pay. He don't say nothing back.

And we are on the record. So today is officially Say Nice Things About Joe Day. Mark, do you have anything to say about Ice winning the award?

Do I get a speech?

I think Ice— congrats to Ice. Ice killed it. All jokes aside, Ice killed it. You absolutely killed it.

Thank you.

And you, like Park said, you've deserved it a few different months where you bodied it.

And let this be— let this be a lesson, right? Mark, you have to win the award Naturally, dog. All of that, yo, my mom-in-law fell in the sewer, all of that. But what else did he say? Oh, a raccoon and his goonies were in my— yo, it's good that there's finally some integrity within the voting system here. Oh, finally.

Yes, Jesus.

I think we can't let Mark win with all that hooting.

I jumped the shark when I started talking about my son and his, um, his Tourette's and my lady moving in with me.

We've described this expression at least 6 times in this podcast.

You never heard Jump the Shark?

It's Happy Days. He jumped over a shark. Yeah, he's still got—

we're gonna find Jump the Shark. He— every season it's okay.

It's fine, it's fine. Next day I'm going home or something, my nigga. Okay, y'all mean gotta do it for New Jersey, Doc? Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Big Jersey, big Jersey.

Yes, sir!

Bone Crusher, what up, boy? Everybody in Atlanta, what's going on out there? This is how we feel in the dance. Energy up, energy up in here!

New York City was popping though! Yes sir!

Hey hey hey hey hey buddy don't—

this shit like The Benjamins from on up here.

I'mma take my chain, I ain't going. We gonna come and blow New Jersey up.

Oh, you wildin' now.

Yeah, man, just trying to wake them up out there. Just trying to wake them up, get them ready for a good weekend out there. Listen, shout out to everybody in the nightlife. Shout out to all the strip club managers out there, all the bartenders.

Shout out to Lookers.

Take care of my boy Ish. Will you see him?

Shout to all the dope boys out there. Everybody in jail, everybody in prison. Old West Coast, what's popping, what's popping? What else? What else?

What else?

Hey guys.

Yeah, we draw blood.

Whole team got choppers like a bike club.

I don't get mad, I just get money. And laugh at these fuck niggas 'cause they so funny.

All the gangsta do is stay fresh.

Fortified with the Gucci temp buttons.

Listen, shout out to all the subgroups out there. Shout out to all the Patronis out there, all the first and last time listeners. All the hey listeners too, y'all are welcome.

All are welcome.

Ooh, rest in peace, rest in peace, Shorty Love, for sure. Where you are, eagle. Where you are. All right, we got a great show lined up for y'all. Let's get right to it, let's get right to it. We got a great show lined up for you today. I keep this up, I'mma find me a skating rink. I'mma find a skating rink. Shout out to Pledge Book and all that. Skate 22 and all that. Old Skate Key and all that.

To all my haters.

He starts the show like he finishes the show. Whatever the fuck Enough used to play. He closes the show like he starts the show.

Sheesh.

Yo.

Hey, Enough, I'm riding with you, my brother. You always supported my records. I ain't never paid you. I don't know what's going on out there.

Joe. That was the intro right there. Yes, I like. You know what I have been doing? It's very a big deal in my, you know, circle with this birthday party shit. Like we talk about it every day, all day. We're excited.

Are you talking about mine?

Yes.

Oh yeah, mine.

My birthday dinner. 'Cause everybody has to come trim. Like my people, you know?

Let me get these drops out the way really quickly.

Who is that? Is Mark Lamont Hill puzzling, puzzling, puzzling, puzzling?

And Mona! What episode is this?

951.

Welcome to episode 951 of the Joe Budden Podcast, brought to you by Fuel By, powered by PrizePicks. PrizePicks gang, yeah! I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here host Joe Budden, here with some really amazing people to my right, Don't Call Her White Girl, Big Damona, always working, booked and busy. Mona, how you doing?

I'm well, super excited.

We love that, we love that. Good to see you. Next to her, her Philadelphia brother, our good brother Dr. Marc Lamont Hill in the building. Marc, what's up with you now?

Ain't nothing, man. I'm good.

Life's good. Good. Absolutely love that. Normally when people say life's good, life is beat. It's cool. We August now. We in August now. After the— after we get these, uh, these Leos out the way, we'll do what we supposed to do, man. Virgos will hold y'all down like we normally do. You know what season is approaching. Anyway, before we get to that, uh, our good Capricorn brother— what's this nigga sign?

A Sag?

I don't even know no more.

He's a Capricorn.

Mr. Thousand Doors and Up, KJ. Oh, Mr. King Wawa, always building a building in DC when he's building.

He's so big.

Ish in the building. Ish, what's up with you now?

What up, dog?

How you doing?

I'm great.

Did you have some coffee to wake up, nigga? You up?

I'm up.

All right, there we go. You doing good?

I'm great.

All right, I absolutely love that. Next to him, the thick one, are Brent— oh, oh, wait, what you say?

I ain't mean to say that. Go ahead.

Is Ice also on the thick one list?

Don't do that.

Come on, Ice and Ish are the thick ones up here. I mean, this nigga, it's nothing— why they get mad at me?

Formerly known as the thick one, so he know, cuz he was a couple months back.

That's a fact. That is a fact. Changed my life around. They didn't change your life around. Changed my life around. They didn't start poking myself. Start poking myself. Zebow-ish. With Zebow, not nothing else. Look at you, you about to make it funny. Anyway, our current, our current Potter of the Month, Big Freeze in the building. Freeze, what's good with you, man? What's What's up, man? Nothing much. You doing— you looking good.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Good, good. Uh, next to him, Elmira's finest, Parks. Big Parks in the building. Parks, what's up with you?

Chilling, man. Feeling great.

Good. Absolutely love that. Uh, Corey is here, Erickson is here, Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here. Everybody is doing good, everybody is feeling good, smelling good. Let's get right to it. Thank you.

By the way, Joe, I'm probably— why I'm feeling good is that thing you did to my back. The other day.

Whoa.

No, no, I don't mean it like gay. I know, but I thought when he wrapped his arms around me, oh, pulled me close, he hit you from the back.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When he did what?

What?

What'd he do to you?

To your back?

I think it's cracked his back.

Yeah, cracked them.

Isn't that what I said?

Yeah, but you saying it, you saying it like on some freaky shit. No, I was just saying, you saying it like my dick moved when I did it.

Yeah, I can't, I It didn't.

You wouldn't know.

We wouldn't know.

Damn. I'm telling you.

That's the devil talking.

I'm telling you it didn't.

You didn't get it done?

But I'm glad you—

I'm not thick. You was not the thick one. I'm not the thick one.

You reached your weight limit.

Jonathan said, Joe like 'em thick.

Yeah, we definitely like 'em thick on this couch.

No, but that back crack shit you did—

Normally them jeans do it for me. Oh shit. The shit that look like they painted on. That's why I bag a little bit. Well, I'm glad you feeling better, Mark.

Oh man, that shit worked.

And I'm glad I was able to help.

Yeah, he cracked your back.

Yeah, but he like, he didn't tell me what he was doing. He was just, come here, just come here. I, I, I was just kind of stretching cuz I stretch on the balcony and he just like, come here.

Oh, you ain't know it was coming?

He said, come here. So he tells you to come here and spins you in.

He said turn around, then he just wrapped his arms around me and took it.

You trust this nigga?

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah, he had no choice, right?

What he going to do?

Got him. You didn't have to find a Little Debbie cake laying around?

Simona, you're so funny. I'm sure all of you trust me.

Yes.

Yes.

New Jersey.

And it was consensual. Oh, and it was consensual. Just kidding.

Listen, what is most— what is most important to you beautiful people?

I know what's important to me. Have at it.

What might that be?

What the fucking raccoon do now?

Oh shit.

Actually, he came up number 15 on the list of top podcasters.

Oh shit.

You don't want to play with me today.

He on one, my boy.

No, but they announced— Forbes announced the top— it was a 30?

No, I stopped counting at 15.

I stopped reading at 10.

Um, it might have been 20, cuz that's all that matters.

The richest podcasters, the most, uh, lucratively paid podcasters in the United States of America. And it was some names on that list.

There was heavy hitters.

Number 1 was, uh, Joe Rogan. No surprise there.

Sure.

I think he came in like $80 million.

Yeah. Damn.

Yeah, $86 million annually.

I figured, I mean, but it was, it was interesting. Listen, there were some people in there I didn't expect, like, um, the football players, Kelce, uh, oh, Kelce.

Yeah, they did got a nice—

I didn't know they was making that much money that fast.

How could you not expect?

That's when they made—

it's just how fast it was that they were at that level that fast.

I knew they would— Taylor Swift on their like 4th episode or some shit.

That'll get it done.

That does it. That will get it done.

Little cheat code right there.

Cuz the host of the Brothers, right?

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

They're great, they're great.

Yeah, I like it.

They're absolutely great. Let's— we got to listen. Anybody got to listen in front of them?

I can— they can be in front of me.

I don't— I think they've swiped it from the internet.

I got it right here.

I think Forbes deleted it.

No, no, right here.

We kept the files.

We got the files.

Oh, here we go. Forbes released the top.

So come on guys, who's next?

Uh, Steve, uh, Diary of a CEO is—

no, John Cookin and Jody Hayes' TBPN at 70 million.

Sheesh, there's some numbers on that. At 45 million.

Then Ashley Flowers from Crime Junkie at 42. True crime podcast, that's a good, uh, good genre to be in.

He's all really big dog podcasts.

Yeah, for sure. Uh, Bateman and Arnett and Sean Hayes' Smartless at 37. Uh, Mel Robbins, the Mel Robbins Podcast at 35.

Great.

Kelsey Brothers at 35. 5. Alex Cooper at 32. Call Her Daddy, shout out to Call Her Daddy. Get to it. Uh, Pod Saves America at 28 million. Charlamagne at 27.

Shout out to our brother Charlamagne for sure. Congratulations. Is he the first Black person on that list?

No, Steve was. Steve, the RBE CEO, was Black.

Armchair Expert at 25.

But I mean, still the second Black person.

Yeah, I mean, still a big deal.

Huge deal being on that list.

Good to see two Black people in the top 10. Good to see Black people on this list.

Very Uh, Amy Poehler, uh, The Good Hang at $24 million.

Emmy winner.

Uh, Bill Simmons at $22 million.

Uh, there's your list. There you have it.

No, we didn't get to the Joe Budden podcast at, uh, $20 million, rounding out the list here.

What number is Joe Budden?

15.

Yeah, 15, right after Jay Shetty.

Wow.

Congratulations.

Congratulations.

Congratulations.

It's part congratulations and part you because I don't know why people, when they see the Joe Budden podcast or see your name, they think we all make that money.

Dog, it's so stupid.

I've had 5 people ask to borrow money.

I swear to God, bro, it's the weirdest thing. I have never had nobody—

Proud of your maturity, cuz you, you a narcissist. Oh shit, what the fuck? Your, your maturity.

This is a compliment.

No, no, I'm about to tell you, we call this a laugh.

All right, my man started writing fast.

Yo, everybody on Joe Budden.

When Joe looked at him, the nigga said he He had the pen in his mouth like, bingo, got him, got his ass.

Yo, you, you keep letting them downplay your bread. I'm proud of you, yo, seriously.

No, cuz yo, let me tell you, let me tell you why.

Look, look, look, let me tell you why. Cuz you are in the top 10. I'm not. And you letting them do that. And yo, the old you, yo, the old you would have been like, huh, like, y'all going to stop playing with me.

The old you would have kept—

yeah.

Oh, the old you would have—

yeah, I feel like 20 million was last year's number, right?

Yes, 3 years ago.

3 years ago. Listen, I'm honored.

No, 2.

I'm humbled. Uh, good to be in that conversation. Uh, shout out to Forbes for the acknowledgment. We did an interview with them. Ian did an interview.

Yeah, it's a great interview.

It's a great interview. Great interview, Ian. But nah, good Good time, good, good time. We had a good time. It's a good list. We got some really amazing positive things going on that I'm excited about this summer.

So yeah, and you had another announcement, you working with Dick now. Um, that's normal.

Oh yeah, that too. Um, yeah, you No, this is the right way to get the change. No, you're doing it now.

Dick Wolf, uh, one of the— I mean, one of the greatest crime storytellers for sure in history, if not the greatest on television.

He might be number one.

He would have to be the greatest.

I don't even think it's—

yeah, yeah, it's not close.

I don't know who's second.

Yeah, fair.

In that particular genre.

Yeah, well, with you— I mean, you could talk about it, but you announced that you were doing a project that starts very soon.

So we, we— it was a soft launch. It was a quiet—

soft—

announced.

It always is. We think I feel for that.

And we're always the last to know. Just keep on checking the box.

You good though.

Am I always the last to know? Do y'all be knowing what be going on? Do you find out on your timelines like me?

I found out on the timeline.

I didn't know nothing.

Yeah, Joe's full of surprises.

Uh, yes, I'm very excited. In my head, I would get up here and fucking slam dance on the table. Uh, that's how excited I am about this Dick Wolf partnership and the show that we have coming. Crime in America is going to be great. I don't like to do a whole lot of talking. I like to get to the work. So let's just let the work speak for itself. Uh, but I will be the host of the show. I could not be more excited to partner with Dick Wolf, Headline Studios, Advanced Local, uh, all of the people that like are are extremely credible in this, in this space. And I'm credible in my own right, but in true crime, yeah, this is where I want to be. They got relationships with the, with the field reporters. They get the stories. Yeah, let's talk about them, everyone. Y'all know I got a passion for true crime.

Like, when I heard you were doing something, I didn't know what it was. I was like, I hope— in my brain I was saying, I hope this isn't just an extension of what you already do. No. And it could— like, I hope he's not just doing another show. And I know you don't need to check, so I was like, this must be a good project. Then I saw true crime, I was like, oh shit, I wouldn't— it's perfect. I wouldn't have thought of it for you, but it's perfect once I heard what it was.

Yeah, no, I'm really excited about it.

Congratulations on that, man.

Yeah, congrats, Joey.

Yo, do you ever marvel at that? Like, think about where you were 10 years ago. I know the money is one thing, right? You probably have more money than you expected to have when you didn't have money. But to be like— that you'd be hosting a true crime show with Dick Wolf like 10 years later, I mean, your whole world Scared. Like, how do you think about that?

I don't really know.

Hmm.

I don't know. I'm so— I'm in the moment, right? I'm so into work focus. Yeah. So I don't have time to step outside of myself and kind of marvel at the journey that it's been. But, uh, money aside, yeah, I mean, the blessing is to be doing stuff that I would do for free.

Facts, right?

The blessing is to be doing things that I'm, that I'm proud to put my name on, uh, to be doing stuff that I'm just happy about. The blessing is to get with people who are legends in, in the field and even them be open to a new way of doing business, right? Because I'm an owner. Yeah, in this show. So to be able to negotiate that, to be able to pitch that and it land with the excitement that it landed with. I would tell people all the time, yo, we talk on Patreon, we'll probably talk about it later, uh, in the creator economy, tough decisions to be made when you people want to get paid versus owning some shit.

Yeah.

And a lot of creators out there want to do both. They want to get paid all the money and they want to own. Nah. So I'm excited to see all the different ways that this venture will bear fruit, for sure.

Can I ask you a question? When are you supposed to do that? Because I experienced that a lot. When are you supposed to marvel on it? Because your head's down, you working, right?

Yeah.

When are you supposed to take a step back and look and say, damn, I— like, when is that appropriate?

My experience from music, it's hard to, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know, you— it usually be at like way after.

Yeah.

And you look back, you're like, damn, that was really fucking dope, right?

Yeah, yeah.

When you're in it, you're just like, yo, gotta get to the next thing. Yeah, I'm locking in, I gotta knock this out.

I heard Jalen Brunson talking about how he didn't take his normal vacation after season when he took it— when he normally takes it— because he wanted to be in New York City just to feel the energy of winning for at least 3 weeks.

Smart.

Yeah. And after that, okay, now, now he's back, back to the work.

I was going to answer and say, yo, sometimes you'll feel it when you calm down, and typically that's vacation time.

Yeah.

Because that first— probably about the first or second day when I'm on vacation, my phone be to the side. The fourth day I started getting the work itch. Yeah. But for the first 3 days, you kind of gauge where you came from.

Vacation? What is that? Like, when is that?

You'll be relaxing, sometimes it'll hit you like, damn, I had a decent year, or whatever the case may be.

And then it's that whole, right, like I say, I'll be all the time, you fucking dress for— you dress for the gig that you want, not really for the gig that you have, right? So I have this gig that I'm super excited about, we're gonna kill that shit. But we did the run-through, I love the run-through, I looked great, my partners were happy, sounded great, Parks and Erickson on the show with me. I got my people with me, and Paul and Drew, my whole LA production team. Like, it's, it's— bless you— it's like, it's really them kind of trusting.

Yeah, for sure.

Kind of just trusting us, one. So you in there and you know that you the host, but you know that there's potential for other things to happen here. Yeah, like, whatever they looking at, great that you the host and great that we partnering with this. But you hit this single, there may be a double. Yeah, yeah, you hit that double. So I'm super excited, uh, God willing. Like, I'm— I feel young and spry. My birthday is coming, I'll be 46.

Yeah, we got the flyers.

I got the flyer. You got it.

Finally put the birthday dinner flyer in the group chat.

Skinny is all that. Like, doing your birthday skinny is so lit.

Listen, I stepped on the scale, I'm lighter better than I've been since I was maybe 28. I'm about—

where you at?

206.

Oh damn, you know what I thought, guys? For all of us, I think we should do weigh-ins every Friday into the party, and we shouldn't eat shit into the party. Which I think— let's not eat food to the party so we could be skinny. Yeah, yeah, shut up, you don't have to do that.

Wingstop delivering on Uber Eats till like 2, 3 in the morning is— yeah, I hit him up. Taco Bell is down.

Clutch Taco Bell.

They really deliver till 2, and it's hot at 2.

Are you still eating Taco Bell?

Fuck yeah.

You're the last person to say that.

That's— you are not, bro. Brother, it's me and you, nigga. Are you crazy?

Locked in.

I eat some bullshit. I don't eat no Taco Bell.

Doritos Locos Supreme? Are these niggas sleeping?

Yeah, they—

I expect better from you.

Not—

no, sorry.

No, that's not what I mean. He lives in—

she lives—

stop.

Just stop.

No, no, listen. You live in Delaware. There's not a lot of food options at 2 in the morning is what I'm saying. You live in New York, there's about 10 million taco spots.

At 2 o'clock in the morning, right?

It's Waffle House.

And the taco spots that you experience, none of them taste like Taco Bell.

That's his own thing.

Taco Bell is like—

we don't have to do this.

Taco Bell is American taco, orange cheese on a taco, American taco, okay? A Doritos Locos, imagine eating a taco, okay? And instead of it being a regular shell, it's a fucking Dorito.

Dorito.

What the fuck are we even talking about this for? Somebody in here is not thinking, or they don't have a brain. How about that? That insult to injury. Sometimes it's a Cool Ranch Dorito. Like, are we gonna keep playing around?

Okay, nacho fries.

Can we just move on from this stupid-ass conversation? Cinnamon rolls with cream cheese frosting inside. Warm delicacies, nigga.

Were you done reading the names on the list?

I think we got them all.

Yeah, yeah, awesome.

All right, now that's just someone you want to add in.

Well, I'm— no, not it all. If we done, if we done, no need to push it. And now let's do the, uh, independent people.

What's that mean?

Oh, there you go, there you go, there you go.

That's what I was waiting for. Yeah, like, come on, give me the independent list.

Is he the only one on it?

I don't know.

Yes, he's the only independent on that fucking list.

Yeah, I was thinking that.

That's a whole different thing.

It took a lot of patience, guys, putting your head down and knowing you could do it.

Yeah. Was that the only name?

I think it may have been. I don't know everyone.

I mean, we don't know everybody's business, so let's assume that maybe there's one other independent person. Ain't a lot though, going there.

Ain't a lot.

It's not too many up there. I mean, let this be inspiration to all of you. I got my own list coming out soon. What was it, the top, the top, uh, richest top 20 or some shit? I got the bottom 100 coming. No, for real, it's so many podcasters and it's a lot of you at the bottom and y'all deserve to be acknowledged. Acknowledged and praised my— you can do it, man! That's it. Go ahead, Frank. I knew it was coming up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, listen, be humble when you win, be humble when you lose, man. It feels good. Shout out to everybody on on that list. Also, even though now, listen, I am like, like you said, Ice, I am getting a few texts. Oh my God, I'm getting texts that say one thing but I think they mean something else. Like, I'm receiving them differently.

What they saying?

Uh, yo, super proud of you, just seen the article, knew you would do it.

Oh yeah.

Oh, I knew you would do it.

That's the tell right there.

I believed in you.

Yeah, yo, keep going, you know, you're nowhere near done. I seen the article, uh, Cat sent me the, uh, Dave Chappelle clip of him in the barbershop when he got all the money, and it's a new price now. Yeah, for the haircut.

But this is the problem in Ice and Me.

That was a super funny clip. Dave was ahead of his time.

Yes, he was. We got stepped on a little. That's cool for him to get the calls because he got the fucking— yes, we getting the calls ain't got the fucking money. Let's be clear, I don't know about the rest of these niggas because I'm starting to think Parks is sitting on something myself, but me and Ice don't got money. Okay, even Mr. CNN, you know, it's the choices. Me and Ice don't have milk because I don't know, your shit a little shady with all them trips. Why would y'all have the reporter on the moment?

I didn't do it.

It's 2 days and you choose to do the Mona Day reporter.

I don't know if I should be Mona Day or Flick Day. When should the reporter come? I almost had him come on a Thursday, just me in here.

No, but literally, I'm seeing— I even see people in comments when that fight video came, people was in the comments like, why would Mona be fighting in the store? She making millions of dollars. I was like, no, wait, guys, no.

Yeah, only high, high hundreds of thousands.

Exactly. No, bro, I'm doing hostings for $1,100. Y'all got me fucked up.

But you do like 300 of them, right?

All right, let's move past everything. It's not going the way I want it. Me and him don't have—

we don't have—

I don't have it.

I don't have it.

Parks, I don't—

and this one to give you whatever he got. He's kind. Yeah. So do with that information with will.

We all very blessed.

That's true.

We are.

Some are more blessed than others. Exactly. And some of us will get our blessings the next contract renegotiation.

Some of us are the sneeze.

No, let's be fair. Some of us— no, some of us work real hard.

Joe's a hard worker. How y'all people send that Forbes to y'all people? That should be the second text. He's on my Google alert.

Oh, I had a— I— that was one of the greatest alibis that I can't dunk. Oh, that was a good one. I can't dunk it. I would just let it turn over.

Some people work harder than others, you know, and you deserve to, uh, you know, get the fruit of your loins or whatever the fuck they said.

I don't think—

whatever I said it, that's how I go.

But fruit— where do y'all, where do y'all want to begin? Uh, 50 minutes in, what's important to y'all? What's not important to y'all? We got brand new music.

We do.

Yeah, Cardi B, let's go.

I like it.

I love it.

I love it.

I love it.

Loved it on the first listen.

Me too.

It's a good vibe. It feels like it should have been on the last album, honestly. It's an extension of that sound and vibe.

Yeah, you got that summer bop feeling.

Yeah, I'd appreciate this a couple months ago.

Exactly, because the song of the summer is not that, and it should be.

This is This is one.

Yeah, I got a question.

Cheers up.

Is it true that you can— for women, I'm at— that's why it's funny I'm asking men, but it's really for women.

We got YouTube. We have one.

Yeah, can, can, can you not flex on somebody with something they had?

You absolutely can flex on someone.

I think you can too.

You absolutely can.

I think you can too.

I mean, it's a different type of—

it depends on how they— you can't say why they don't have it, and you can't say you flexing.

What did I say? What'd you say?

I said it depends on why they don't have it right now. Yeah, because if it's something I had and I got rid of it, I didn't want that shit no more, that's not a flex now. But if it's— you got, you know, some people, right, they might have got left or they might have got played and they still hung up in feelings over that person, or if we talking people, um, Um, then yeah, you can absolutely flex.

I feel like there's so many rap songs about I fucked your girl.

Yeah, because Joe pictured like he was asking women.

It's absolutely a flex. But a lot of times those are— I took her. It says I fucked her and you kept her.

I took her. That's what they be trying to— she was in love with this one. Wait a minute, now I got her.

That's it. You ain't starting because you got— you got her. You starting because you fucked her.

I have a question. Why is this a woman question, Joey?

If you're asking me, the flex part I see more from women. For sure. Dudes is just doing— for sharing hoes, see, fucking hoes. I very rarely see a man— unless it's a Puerto Rican.

Now dudes be mad.

Dude, dude, one at a time, one at a time, please.

He's talking about as a flex.

Yes, dudes.

Well, no, dudes do that though.

Yeah, but who does it much more?

Women.

I see it much more from women.

So to answer your question, Future got a record. The first round is I just fucked your chick in some Gucci She flip-flops. And he— and the nigga he was talking to kind of knew he was talking to him.

But see, to me, that's like— if I understood your question, it's like, is it starting to say I got something that you already had? That's different than I got something that you have right now, right? Your girl is different than I fucked your ex.

And the way they using it is, you still want this one way or another. That's the only way I think it's a flex. I think it depends. You can't determine it's a flex.

Wait, let me add some more them on her. For men, like when Future said that, that, that didn't say that the other dude wasn't fucking the girl, right?

But it's your bitch, your main.

You thought— at least you thought—

like, got a record called Old Lady, and that's what he say. Nigga owe me some money, you ain't got to pay me, keep fucking with— I'mma fuck your old lady. He said, I don't want your side hoe, I want your main chick, the one you call bae, the one you in love with. Like, it's, it's because it's hard.

That was a good one too.

But the point is you really wanted— you want this one. See, I got something that you want.

Even with your—

that's where the flex—

but even with your Plies line, for me, that's a spite fuck, a revenge fuck, which for me is different than a flex, right? I'm just telling you how I interpret.

But the dude— it's, it's— it could be a spite fuck for the, for the girl, like, I'm mad, I'm fucking somebody, whatever. But the dude, I'm throwing out of your face because you still want it. You can't have it because I got it.

I want to know who she's talking about. See, for me, this is about me be the fourth song that I've heard her say, why do y'all keep trying to flex on me with my old shit?

I think that—

is she talking to them chicks that Offset is running around with? Stefon Diggs?

I think when it comes to a line like that, especially if you keep hearing it, that bitch talking about bitches that's running around the Bronx with Tommy. All y'all bitches that think you got one that I had, it's like, you can't do that, you know?

Cuz what happens is with the girls, and the niggas do it too, it be— they think they on your level now because they hitting something that, that you was with. And that's what she like, yo, that's not a flex. Like, I—

you ain't—

you still ain't here with me. See, I think it's different for men and women because the women typically leave the dudes, right? Dudes will get caught doing some bullshit, the woman will leave. So shorty, I left him alone. You not flexing on me because I left him. If it, if it was up to him, he'd still be with me. That's the flex. It ain't— you can't determine the flex because you might be laughing at something I don't even want. Like, good Riddens. I'm glad she stopped calling my phone when she met you so you not flexing on me.

All right, that's my only— that's my only question. I love this song. She look good.

Yes, she did.

Yes, she— she looks great. Took that ass out.

Yeah, she took—

she took some ass out.

She took some ass out. Yo, shout out, shout out to women doing what they got to do on their health journey.

Them legs be legging, my nigga.

Well, I'm talking about women being healthy. Shout out to them for being able to be, you know, live a little longer. Shit get confusing though. You follow you on the gram with one body, 2 years later you done switched it up on me. Now I gotta— I'll be looking at my phone, who the fuck is that?

Y'all seen any of that in real life? Like, like people who've gotten the ass reduction or gotten the implants or whatever? Definitely, definitely. I see it on the internet a lot, but I ain't seen a lot in person. People— I've seen a few breast reductions, but I ain't, you know—

I've seen it.

I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. Cardi, love the song. I'm anxious to see if that means that the is a new album, EP, or just new music being worked on.

Yeah, I'd be interested. Yeah, I wonder where that would live.

Y'all heard that, that new thing out of Philly?

I did.

I heard it.

Uh, yeah, new.

Yes, yes. Don't do that.

New name.

It's just through me.

See, I used to Dreams and Nightmares.

I, I get that, but this is Nightmares to Dreams.

When I hit play on it, I was like, wait, this shit is fire though.

It's not bad.

Shout out to Meek. This shit is fire.

It's weird to remix your biggest song though.

Let's let it play. Yeah, and then when it's over, I'm I'm gonna agree with Park.

Yeah.

—your location.

I get money, you pop that shit, and help get people off probation. Wait a minute, hey, I got like 80 in it. Once you stop me taking, nigga, I'm too rich to fake it with you.

I had A out in Paris, told her I love her.

I'm playing with her.

I'm trying to wait till the beat switch.

When I found out my man hit her, yeah, this shit getting realer and realer. We trying to survive, we fighting like when we outside.

No, it's a— yeah, I ain't going to lie, this shit is fire.

Yo, yo, it's not bad, it's just weird.

It's a— because who has ever redone their biggest song?

Puff Daddy. Biggest song? No, but people redo their songs all the time. Yeah, do a cover. Yeah, that's what I feel like he's doing here. That's the energies on what I'm saying.

Like, um, I just feel like it's an update. Yeah, that's what I feel like.

Yeah, like Jay-Z did Originators, you know, you do it, you do Originators.

No one heard Originators. Mark, what are you talking about?

I agree with y'all on the biggest record part. I'm saying sometimes you just got some nostalgic shit that you want to do again. This shit just happened to be his biggest record. I'm still with it.

But I feel like the difference with this is his biggest record happens to be a big record for the culture.

A fucking classic.

Yeah, so it's like you don't fuck with that one. You know what I mean? Like, that's why it's a little weird. But if you are going to fuck with it, this is probably the best of the sound. Thank you. Because it sounds good, but it is. We can tell the truth.

I mean, even though it sounds good, Mika's trying to recap catch a lightning in a bottle, like a money grab type. Like this, this— I don't even think it's a money grab, but you got to think, look at— I'm independent now. Clearly, just from some of the tweets, I might have been having a hard time getting eyes and ears on certain things. Like, you know, he dropped projects that kind of didn't do anything for him. So, all right, let me go catch this one right here that I know y'all know, make something that when y'all hear it—

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm trying to play a little bit of familiarity with you. And see, that's—

I think it's more that. I think it's like, it's a dope track and I can make some money off it independent. I don't think he's trying to catch lightning in a bottle. You're not gonna get another hit. No remixing your own shit. That I agree. That's why I don't— that's why I'm not mad at it, because I don't think he's chasing the hit. I think he just want to do some dope shit.

Yeah, I think like, well, it makes some money. To me, to me, this is no different than an artist taking their biggest album and then coming back years later and doing two. I don't—

I think it's very different.

I'm just saying, you're doing that, it don't— it could be night and day, but I'm trying to capitalize off of when all see this name with the 2 next to it. Uh-huh. Y'all know what I did here, so you, you— it's like set the expectation already.

Cool. But why not just put a different beat to it? A similar, a complimentary.

Let me get to the beat switch for the people.

Yo, and to be clear, right, that shit— it's not bad, it's not bad. I don't get all that why he doing it, what was the purpose, what was the motivation. That motherfucker's rapping.

Yeah, no, he ain't rapping like he rapped on the first one.

Nobody's rapping.

I mean, that's the thing, when you recreate a classic of your own, if you don't do it as good as you did the first time, it's— it comes off a little jarring.

I don't disagree with that. I just don't— I'm just not mad at it.

Can the rapper talk? There we go. Oh, go ahead, rapper.

Yeah, it's a rapper in here.

I thought he's a podcaster. Yeah, enough of y'all. Oh God, pardon me. Um, I agree with some of the things that y'all was saying, especially Freezing, uh, Parks. I'm a huge Meek fan, right? So he's never gonna rap bad. So he starts at good raps. Yeah, these are good raps. These ain't raps that you have in mind when you saying, yo, pull up the Dreams and Nightmares beat. Like, these are just good raps on the Dreams and Nightmares beat. It's not the same, nowhere near the same level of intensity. His delivery, even that might be a mistake. I don't— the change in the flow. He ain't said nothing here that— listen, dog, I was in Sin City when Dreams and Nightmares was out. Yeah, anywhere when that record was out. I was out.

I was still outside when that shit— yeah, that shit went crazy.

Yeah, but if you were there when it first dropped, the entire club place that you were in was on couches, on the bar, waiting for that shit.

They was waiting for that, dog.

It was a— yo, we could say, we could say the words. We ain't heard nothing here that's going to make somebody do that. I can rewind it for you. You ain't heard— that's not, that's not here right now.

You think that was the intent though? My mom knows. I think he went for—

I think there should be one of the— even, even it should be one of those lines in there by mistake if the Dreams and Nightmares beat come on. If the Dreams and Nightmares beat come on, you should bump into one of those that the DJ could fucking crossfade out and we could hear this. You just rapping over this and, nigga, no. If he did this in 2030, cool. Yeah, it worked. 2035, cool. See, nah, we was dead. Nah, too soon.

Too soon. Because what I look— I said maybe this is like anniversary. So I said, let me go back and find out exactly when Dreams and Nightmares came out. That was 2012. 2012. So it's not even an anniversary. It ain't 15, it ain't 10. So, uh, I, I just think, yo, they know this. It's kind of almost like a— I'm gonna call it a shortcut, but they know fast track.

Fast track, not a shortcut. Better word, better word, but a fast track. A way to expedite. It's weird. Expedite some things. Yes. But I do, I agree with her. I do think it's just a little— now he— I want to get to the beat switch because the beat does switch And it's a hard beat. It's a beat. Ain't no feel like mama. Yeah, it's a hard beat.

It's a hard beat. He's rapping good. It's just weird for artists to do the remix of their best song.

I was trying to trap, my cousin told me he won't give me no drugs. I look my cousin dead in the eye like, bro, give me them guns. I start tweaking, I get that weed in me. Like the whole city are the real niggas saying they believe in me. Like I'm a lighter, I'm tripping on her. I put VVS in her, acting like you press me about some money. That puts that please to me. I just got up back in the Maybach with TVs in it. I got my cake up, my eyes stayed up, shit like a breeze to me. Y'all boy better wake up, I'm in the gym, ain't no lean in me. Lean with me, rock with me, and I brought my team with me.

And they brought them— no, them bells don't be mean to me.

Hit her with that shit, she ain't that shit, can't be seen with me. She came with him, but when she left, she trying to leave with me. Bleed with me, Crip with me, nigga. Blow said he fucked up.

Let me ask y'all a question, and I like this flow, this pocket he about to get in right here. If you're Meek, because I think that this, this song has the biggest impact at a Meek show somewhere. At a Meek show, not sure, not a festival, somebody bringing them out. This, right? Because I have to imagine you did this wanting to perform it somewhere, and you have your classic. So my question to y'all is, do you play this before Dreams and Nightmares?

That's the other part. Yeah.

Or do you play it after?

Do you play it like the intro? Yeah, I don't know.

That's my question. That's a great question. They're going to play Dreams and Nightmares.

They're not going to play this at all.

You can't play this, right?

You might can't play it at all.

No, you got to play this first.

Or you might just play a verse. You might just play a verse.

And if you play it first, I think you might do the switch. Then you take some— you take some of the oomph off of when your joint comes on. I can see him. Yo, dog, when the Dreams and Nightmares come on, oh, the stadium is fucking—

yo, this is what we've been waiting for, right?

We can ad-lib this.

Roots picked Nick like, fucking was shaking. The ground was shaking when he did that shit live outside in a forest.

I remember when he leaked that motherfucker.

Yeah, yeah, when he leaked it, he leaked it like a single. Yeah, I remember that.

I feel like it go right back to what Perks is saying, like, no matter what, it's just— if you— you're never going to do it good enough. So it's just one of them songs that just get lost. Like, it's too big of a song to touch, in my opinion.

And especially, like, it's kind of followed the same blue. I maybe figure out something in my brain that makes me like it if it was like a complete flip, you know what I'm saying? If it was like an acoustic version damn near or something like that, or like a whole different— it's damn near the same shit.

Yeah, it is. It just sounds better. Could he have put a feature on it, or that would have fucked it up too? No, no, I would—

like Jay-Z can't do— I don't think another voice should ever rap on this besides me. I agree, I agree.

I was sitting there thinking too about like, I'm still trying to rack my brain about other, other people have done— no one's done with the biggest song that I could think of. But I'm thinking about people, even like Nas with New York State of Mind Part 2. I'm just thinking about people—

Nas did it with, uh, his lead single from fucking Hip Hop Is Dead and, uh, the Untitled album both had the In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida sample on it. Yes.

Or I think that's what it was. Yeah. And they did New York State of Mind Part 2. Yeah. And New York State of Mind Part 2— I guess my point is maybe this just comes and goes and we don't think about it. That's what I think. It might just be one of them things. Like, like, I don't— when I hear New York State of Mind, I don't think about New York State of Mind Part 2. I just think— I still think about the original. I do if that beat was—

he just used the same intro drum and then it went to a whole different beat. Oh, I see what you're saying, which is— I mean, if he did something like that, I wouldn't have been mad.

Yeah, either way, point taken. I just— and as a—

listen, Meek is on his socials previewing music, so he got heat.

Yeah, yeah, he's just trying shit. I feel like he has heat.

So as a Meek fan, I was waiting for the new—

oh no, like, I look at it— if that's the case, I'm gonna rock Ice's point, which is if I got all these songs in the tuck, let's just say, because he know a hit when he hear a hit, I would think so, right? So if I got all these songs in the tuck, let me get y'all reacclimated to me real, real quick, throw this out to now get the buzz going before I release the heat. That's not a bad rollout for somebody that's independent. I'm not though. Look, think about it, think about it. He dropped The Last Flameless tape. I ain't see nobody talking about it. Yeah, and that's not a shot at me. I mean, I came in and spoke.

I didn't know we had to get it either. That's the thing, didn't know how to get it.

So look though, now I'm dropping this. Look how much time we just here have just spent talking about this. Okay, that's what I'm saying. I want to— well, it's too many mics on this podcast.

Exactly, like it's a lot of mics.

Use the familiarity just to get people— it's going to make people listen who might not even have listened. Word. Because again, a lot of people, if it's not put in my face pause from, from a, um, a playlist or something. Independents have a hard time getting people to listen to their music right now. So yeah, I'm gonna go with what y'all know. I'll let y'all hear the little teaser. Oh, I'm back, flip the name. People just gonna say, let me hear what he did.

And again, audience, I'm compromised, right? Don't take my word yet. I gotta hear this song in speakers. I live with my girl. I'm 4 in the morning, I'm on the toilet playing shit from the iPhone. Phone like let me go listen to it the way I'm supposed to listen to it and I'll be back. I'm not mad at it but would I have done it? Hell no!

Yeah remix in 2016 would have been kind of weird.

A Pump It Up remix today would be a little weird for him to do it.

Wait wait wait wait wait what now that you're rapping rapping— No it ain't if you always—

And you own all of it now yeah this Dick Wolf show better start with Pump It Up Part Two like if you could get paid off there yeah I think you saying some shit on that Pump It Up part too.

Yeah, I think it goes crazy. That's it right there.

I'm not talking about good taste right now, I'm talking about the, the financials of it.

He don't own Dreams and Nightmares. That's it. Yep, that's it.

Yeah, that's the point I thought you were making, like, yo, I'm gonna spend this bacon, I'm gonna make the bread this time. That's what I thought you were saying from the door.

Yeah, I thought you were saying that earlier too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you don't own it, I get it. But yeah, that's it.

Potted them off, cracked it. No, don't— please crack the case. No, for real, when Mark ever told us a music fact like that? Like, Mark don't deserve—

you just ended the combo, you ended the debate.

And that's a good sign, that's a sign of a good podcast, just ending the conversation. That's what we always say.

This nigga is like indestructible with these—

with this shit. And we continue the theme of Meek dropping music when Wale drop some music.

Oh yeah, that Wale shit is all right too.

I like that shit.

This is the song that Wale previewed that everybody was waiting for.

And this is with homeboy, uh, Elmin. Elmin, yeah. I think I say his name different every time, but he's kind of what he want to say.

I don't— I'm not sure what his pronouns are, so there you have it.

There you have it. I think it's Elmin.

Salute. Actually, this kind of, kind of proves the point that I was making a little bit. What? There's a way to get in your bag and it just not be the bag we have. Like, don't this sound like a Wale record? Yes. Yeah, and it just feel like a Wale record. Yes. Yeah, he don't have to go grab the fucking guapalade beat and do a new verse to the Leon Thomas hook. He don't have to go grab the Tony Tony Tony sample and put a new— hey, I think they missed this one. Because as an artist, you feel like that a lot. Well, not Meek's not feeling like that with that, but you can just—

I think Mike might feel like that, that they missed this one again. Missed what one? No, previous records. So now he says, let me come out and do this. I'm talking about previous records. Hey, this shit nice right here.

You know why Wale girl records are so funny to me now? Cuz he tried to come out and be public with that one girl and that shit lasted for like a week and a half.

Yeah, he popped out.

She was nice too.

Nice lady, I'm sure.

Hey, the boy's good, man. Yeah, and I think it's for me. I think Shorty throwing for a loop too.

Yeah, shit happens. Say more. Come on, tell me more. No, I want to get in on this.

I don't have anything. If you go from the last album, the one he just recently released was— is amazing. Everything is a lot. Yeah, the last album, he got some little issues with it, with a main one.

Even in this, Wale wasn't ready to be public with no damn girl.

You can't— it was on the— yeah, it was on the last one, and now he spilled it over to the new shit. He's still going.

Oh, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they was, they were, they was cute for that little 11 days. Shout out to Wale, man. He went and wrote a poem about her. He made some great music about them 11 days. He did. Sometimes you just got to fuck somebody so they could be a muse for your next song or album, man. I ain't mad at it. Shout out to Wale. Uh, is there anything else in new music that we need to get to?

Rapsody dropped a neo-soul record that's a little bit interesting. You hear? Oh, I missed it.

I'd like to hear a neo-soul record.

Yeah, it gives me very much D'Angelo vibes. Apple Juice, uh, uh, Porter produced.

Hey, Nani! Yeah, shout out to Nani, man. Miss you and I love you. Hey, hey, this shit sound like Solange about to come on. Yeah, this is rap Yes.

Wow, very D'Angelo.

Made me kind of sad listening to it. I immediately thought of D'Angelo.

Yeah, I see why.

Wow, get out of here! She don't rap at all, it's all singing. Really? Yeah, she sound amazing.

Yeah, you are the best. The album is coming Coming out in 3 weeks, is it? Yeah, it's called God Got an Afro and 3— and God Got an Afro and Gold Hoops.

This is one of the songs. Afro and gold hoops.

Yeah, I love rap, so I'm excited.

21 tracks. I like the switch.

Yeah, this is hard.

I'll be curious to see if she does that.

I didn't know she could do that.

Smooth as shit. I didn't either. Something different.

No, that's smooth as hell. Yeah, that's heat.

Shout out to Rhapsody. Yeah, shout out to Natsu, man. Super underappreciated producer.

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Dave East dropped this new project, uh, when he initially put the track list out, there was a record featuring Snoop Dogg and 38 Special, and then the album dropped and Special has been removed. I mean, no surprise there. Yeah, I didn't understand. There's like this outrage over that. I don't see why. Yeah, what did y'all think was gonna happen, right?

No, yeah, you did.

You dissing my mans, I'm gonna take you off the album. It goes back to what Joe was just saying before. Shit gonna start happening now because you playing with people that have relationships. Yeah. And that are loved.

Somehow people think I'm biased in my reporting of this.

Uh, I mean, I spoke to Special and there was some elements that I could understand why he would think that you were biased. Mm, cuz there were some things said to him that I didn't see from Jim's side specifically that I understand why he took it there. Why he took it there? Yeah, I do.

Really? I didn't know that either. Care to expound or no?

Yeah, he— I think, uh, one of Jim's people made a diss song talking about his dead brother. Yeah, no, no, sorry, one of Jim's people did that? Yeah, but I think Jim posted or something. I don't know the full details. And Jim also posted some things that seemed a little bit threatening online. I could see why. Yeah, it's—

I saw that later too, that I'm not leaving this to rap comment that Jim made.

They been threatening him the whole time.

Yeah, I just understand why you would take it a little bit further, I guess, in the words of Ice.

My commentary is only coming from MC brain. If I don't think that you an MC or capable MC or worthy of my— I'm never taking my hard-earned time and energy to put pen to pad for you. That's me. I look at Special like he's on that level of MCing. I got it. I heard you say Jim Jones don't even get in this because you ain't that. I acknowledge that. Let's keep them there. Let's keep them there.

Not just that, like, I'm with matching energy. Like, if, if somebody says something about me as a man, I'm gonna say something about them as a man. If somebody talk about about violence, and if that's your bag, you could talk about violence, you understand what I'm saying? Now the dead brother part, I didn't know, that's a different thing. Yeah, but my thing is when you bring somebody else's wife, they kids, shit like that into the water, it gets muddy for me. So if you cracking on my clothes, let's crack on your clothes, because I really heard him cracking on his clothes. And that's all I heard, his outfits and shit. So at that point I was like, wow, you go from clothes to to that. If he was talking about his dead brother, it definitely changes a little bit of things. But, um, I just, I just believe that we should stay here. Like, the family and all that other shit is, is a different arena.

The women and kids, like, to your point, is always held in a different regard than your dead homies. Yeah. Now, Spesh might have put him in the same— not dead, dead brother.

That's different. It's different. That's different. That's true. Sorry, gloves are off at that point. I'm, I'm, I'm not—

if my man says it, right?

But if you, if you post it—

so I just— he gets to take it however he wants to take it. That part is not up for debate. That's a fact. He did it. He rode out. Yep. He's standing in his decision-making, which is all you can ask for people. Yeah, in a beef. I just keep saying, yo, dog, in the future there's going to be a verse that you want from somebody that you're not going to get, and you're not going to know know why.

It might not be a verb.

In the future, there's gonna be a show, yeah, that you can't book at a venue, and you're not gonna— you're not gonna know why. Like, it's the creation of enemies with people that have long-lasting relationships, right? Fat Joe has been in this since '92. Ruff Ryders have been in this since— how long they been in it? Roc Nation is rather new, but it's still Roc Nation. I mean, if I think hard enough, I could add some other cliques into this. So you at what go with all of them. If you down for that, then who the fuck am I, nigga? Go ahead, shoot.

You just make it harder. But you know what, that's all the crazy shit is. It started over nothing. That's a lot of what you got to wrap your head around too. It started over something so trivial, and now it's here where brand deals are being affected. People's physical guy hopefully won't—

yeah, hopefully.

But yo, it started over—

what do hopefully— what are y'all talking about? We dissing the dead brother, we dissing the wife.

I don't want to put it in.

Yeah, but it's all right, it's there.

You didn't— that's there. Yeah, I feel like I'm one of the fucking mature people with a microphone to come in here and say, hey, if you do X, it leads to Y. We don't need that, we don't want that. You successful, you successful, let's just have Bone Thugs-N-Harmony. Like Nobody else is gonna say that. Everybody else is gonna come out, yeah, kill him, man, this other man, fuck the wife, and fuck yeah, get him, get him, get him. Nah, nah. But I don't think I'm biased. I don't think I'm biased. I ain't got a relationship with Kissen, Jim, and all these niggas to where niggas can't diss them. I'm a rapper first, right? I'm a rapper first. Believe me, if Special would have dropped some heat, yeah, I, I'd have been talking to the Joe and Jada podcast for the next month. But, and then there's that. But to me, he didn't. So it just made it— it just made it a little tough. And let me just say, Special's not banned from up here. I see that headline going around. Special's not banned from up here. I did say, because he did the wife thing, that I'm gonna keep it cute for a little bit, because that's just how I sleep at night, right?

Like, I'm not one to reward certain behavior because I think that sends the wrong message. I think anybody could sit in a room and say fuck somebody's loved one, and then you fucking creepy podcasters come out the blue trying to get clicks and engagement on some shit that I think is real life for people. So that's just not who I am, and it's not how I go to sleep at night. But whenever this breeze is over, I would absolutely love to speak to 38 Special. But again, like, if when Pusha and, uh, if when Pusha and Drake was going back and forth, if I was super fly with 40, I would have never interviewed Push, right? No, you can't say my man is about to die and his heart is on its last. No, I can't now have you up here and say, can't platform you now.

Hey man, about that.

Yeah, I think that looks nuts from a podcaster POV. It does. I get that from a podcaster POV.

Let me, let me ask, Parks, you may know. Yeah. Is there anybody somebody that could intervene and kind of like lower the temperature a little bit, even if y'all keep shooting at each other on record or whatever. But like, um, because that's probably— it's certain lines crossed.

I think that guy right there over there would be, uh, uh, one of the people that could.

Yeah, there's a bunch of people involved that could really dead a beef. DNY could dead a beef if they wanted that. It's too many people involved that could really dead a beef. Fucking Pistol Pete could dead a beef. Fucking— I'm just freestyling.

This particular one, I know there's people that could get on the phone with whoever and make some shit.

Bigs could— that'd be like— there's people behind the scenes that are respected enough that they could call anybody in music and have a conversation.

I just don't want to see no bullshit.

Now, especially pick up and be like, ah, nigga, fuck you. No, I don't think you'd be on that. I don't think so either. I don't think so either. But I think a conversation could be had.

Somebody should then, like because this shit's got potential.

I got a bad vibe. I don't want to hear no more bars.

I don't want to hear no more bars from either side about it. I definitely don't want to hear another Jim Jones diss from Spesh. I don't want to hear Jim Jones diss from anybody. I don't think I said— I don't want to hear Jim Jones diss nobody. I don't. Sorry, Jim, love you, but I don't. Uh, and Kiss ain't about to diss nobody. So wake me up for the popcorn. Yeah, like when we get a—

I think it's time to let it all die. I agree. Let it go.

I agree. I I agree. Yeah, that's the end of my biased reporting. Uh, I do have, I do have a project that I bumped into late, but this is my girl, so fuck y'all, I'm playing it. My girl Remy, not Remy Ma, not Remy Ma, R&B Remy.

I don't know if I know R&B Remy.

Uh, R&B Remy, if I could find it here.

While you're looking, uh, Corrupt and Battle Cat dropped I haven't listened to it yet, but I'm excited to listen to it because Battle Cat is another one of those super slept on producers, one of my favorite West Coast— and Corrupt is a slept on MC, and, and I can't wait to check it out. It's fire. Is it? Yeah. Oh, that's part of your, uh, conglomerate. My bad, I forgot.

I swear I can't— I'm mad. That ain't what I want to play.

Ariana Grande dropped some shit too.

I ain't listen to it yet, but say Grande.

Grande. That's a, a very long callback. I hope she ate. Me too.

Me too. Yeah, I hope she's eating.

Oh, you mean, uh, like food?

I mean food, like a Happy Meal, like a bowl of some lasagna, some rigatoni, hopefully with sausages in it. Like, she should get a meal. Oatmeal. That's all I'll say on that. But I love it. I love Ariana Grande. All right, so Remy is a young lady who put out a project called Left on Red. Uh, I played it a few months ago, uh, where the album cover was her and it was all red, and it was a very quick listen, 18 minutes. Oh wow. So now she's back with an EP called Fade to Blue.

It's just Ariana R-E-M-I.

Okay, it's called— it's called Fade to Blue. Now the album cover is blue, it's 5 songs, it's 12 minutes, it's all heat. I do love— I love the short, like really, really, really, really, really short projects if you're going to deliver on all 5 songs.

Listen, I think if you're an artist that isn't like super big yet, doing anything above like 30 minutes— I'm with you. Yeah, it's like I don't know if you should. I'm not— obviously everyone's free to do whatever the fuck they want, but with the up-and-coming artists, give me something short and sweet.

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Especially if you're gonna do like 2 or 3 a year or some shit. Yeah, I don't need 4 hours of music from everybody.

This is Remy, this is called Pointing Over turn. This is hard. And the last project sounds just like this. Talk about establishing your sound. This whole project sounds just like this. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Hey, I love that women apologizing in the record.

You need more of that. Don't just leave it to Anita Baker. There you go. That is Remy, R-E-M-I. That record is called Point of No Return. Sound good off her project Fade to Blue. Was out now, came out last week or the week before that, I don't know. Everything's a blur with July. Uh, but shout out to Remy. That's all I got. That was music. It's a good project.

It's a good project.

If you're into that, check it out. Absolute heat. On there, I wouldn't steer you wrong.

Um, I mean, music adjacent, please. Lil Wayne hit the stage the other day. Yeah, shout out to Wayne, shout out to Wayne, one of the greatest to ever do it. He was absolutely wonderful. You worked on that one. And, uh, no, no, but he, um, he came out and there was some commentary on his, his appearance. Ice, you break it down. You powder the mic. Come with a burden.

So the first, the first thing I saw people saying was, hey, this a clone, that's not Wayne, cuz where the tattoos? Cuz he's tatted up all— but you know, you can see him.

Yo, I'm so stupid. What happened? I didn't even think of that. I didn't even think of that.

You ain't see that? I did not think of that at all, cuz you couldn't see tattoos. Holy shit.

But see, that close— there was no tattoos.

But see, I didn't trust the close-up to be—

you can see it It's just a blurry ass video. He had tattoos.

He did. They look like they blend—

like he had— like they blended. All right, this is like— this is like what's in bed in fucking— ain't nobody cloning Wayne, my nigga. Yo, you're not one of the global elites. Where the hell do you see a tattoo I do not see tattoos on him. They're faded.

I see they faded. Tattoos, bro, what's wrong with you?

Oh, he must have got the cream the bitches be using. Wait a minute, when y'all say the tattoos are faded, y'all talking about his arms?

Cuz the stuff on his chest, there's nothing on his chest.

They on there. Okay, he got the cream when bitches want to get rid of their baby daddy name from their spine. Oh my God, bro, that shit—

I did not think of that on his sides. That is pink Chris? Yeah, I don't know, guys. Are we playing games? This is not—

yeah, they playing.

They playing. Okay, he called his man and went to the same ab doctor, and I don't like it.

Yeah, you know, I'm pro doctor. Do we think these abs are real?

Oh, you think he got a job done?

Do we think these are real, or he just worked out? Are y'all serious?

He's working on his core a lot.

Yeah, you know, a lot of crunches. Core, no arms, no legs, no—

nah, ain't got to do that. Just want this.

Okay, everybody mute up for the person that wants to tell the truth. Go ahead, Mom. Go ahead, Mom.

The abs— he went to the same guy that Drake went to, and I don't think there's nothing wrong with purchasing abs. I passed on mine when I went and got a tummy tuck. I could have got a 2-pack for, for 2 grand or something, but I didn't want—

$1,000 a pack, huh?

It's not— y'all, come on, can we— it's like a beer belly under them.

That's the crazy part.

You know when skinny niggas got that little belly, it's like a salamander, like the gecko lizard, when you get the little— it's like a pregnancy belly when you bony, you got to get fat. Yes, the skinny fat, and then got the— oh my God, the jump.

Vinnie Chase, you just gonna let that slide?

I'm trying to just get through the topic in a mature way.

This I will say, you can have a belly and stuff, abs underneath, because people think you can work your stomach off by exercising or by doing abs.

You do that in the kitchen.

Yeah, exactly. So, so you can have a strong core and, and a—

man, if y'all don't take that shit to the Peloton podcast somewhere and tell the fucking truth, we don't give a fuck about that.

I think, I think it's surgery, but I'm just I'm just saying I don't want people out there thinking you can't have a belly with abs.

You have like something else, like his arms skinny, everything.

It looked like fake to me. He's skinny.

Y'all mad skinny motherfuckers with abs, right?

But that's not—

he got a belly too though.

It's a belly under the fucking pack.

It's— you saying you think that's really him? Yes. Like his body, no work?

I bet you do. I do.

Ish is in the gym 5 days a week. Do you see people who look like that in the gym?

Ish in the gym 5 days a week. Yes, mad skinny fuckers that don't—

you could be slim.

So why is he so thick on the sides like that in the pancreas area?

Why is he so— that shit look like on Halloween when the kids want to be the Ninja Turtle and you buy this shit and it's like strap around them. It look like— yeah, that shit look like he wearing like—

let me see what you looking at, dog.

When you get that— that V right there, you talking about the poke out right before the V?

Nah, what I'm talking about I've never seen on a human. He got these big battery packs on the side. I don't know what the fuck with that, what that part is supposed to be. And I am a surgery sister, Wayne. I'm not hating, I'm just saying that shit ain't right. You— what you got to do is he should gain a little weight, he should do some cardio, he should build some muscle, then slide in the sick— the 8-pack you bought from the boy in Turkey.

You know, that looks like— I'm looking at it close, those are fake abs.

Those are fake abs, hands down.

Then he had the nerve to get an 8-pack. Ask AI. I'm not listening to y'all.

Oh yeah, good for us. Let me ask y'all.

Y'all ain't shit. Parks, let's just assume.

What I will say is this: are Lil Wayne's abs real? Oh shit, oh shit.

I can't— look at what we've come to. Yeah, yeah.

Yes, they appear to be real. Lil Wayne has been photographed shirtless for many years. His abdominal definition has been consistently visible rather than appearing only in edited photos or or a single performance.

And that's why you can't always talk to AI, because I seen Lil Wayne in Skip Bayless's house not even 5 weeks ago, and I said a prayer. Look at this, look what they— we was just praying over Wayne. Yeah, nigga, ain't a Gold's Gym in sight that's got that turned around that fast.

What ChatGPT showed me, it makes me think he been bought these abs, we just wasn't paying attention. Because look at this, who is this nigga? Who's these people? I've never seen this guy. There's a way to fake abs. —look. He's not big.

You've seen him look like— no, it's not that— I get what you're saying. Like, if you're skinny, people can get abs fast, especially skinny as shit.

This is what I'm used to.

He look like he not eating.

He, he has a physique like he's working out, but the—

but the guy that don't eat with abs don't look like that. That's what I'm saying. He don't have the don't eat look with abs. He looks swollen.

He don't even have a strong crackhead look. We see, you know, the strong crackhead in the summertime, like, and they be built, they be built. He don't even have that. He don't have that. It's don't don't look real.

It don't look real.

Y'all know, and Wayne, I think, is my age.

He's our age, I think.

Yeah, it's like 43, right? Somewhere around there. Yeah. I don't understand this. Uh, let me shut up. Never mind.

Go ahead, go ahead, spill the tea.

Like, I, I enjoy all in my 40s gotta get. You're on Ozempic.

Hit the button, hit the button, hit that motherfucker, hit it, hit it when you earn it.

You hit it. One, Zeb Bounce.

My bad, my bad.

McDowell's. Excuse you.

And I think it's great, by the way. It's not Old Zeb.

This nigga said McDowell's.

They got the golden arctic.

This nigga is good. This boy's earning that check, damn it. Being slimmer to me is not like a in-your-40s thing. The desire to look like I'm like in my late 20s as a 40-something-year-old for me is odd. It's odd. I, I think the same thing about the dudes that are dying their beard. Oh yeah. Oh, me? Well, you know, because you don't always do that. No, no, you played around one day after the lady at Target said you look— I know I know what she said to you. I know what she said to you. Oh, you're talking about Macy's? Macy's? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know what happened. You never came in here and said it, but I did come in here.

I put two and two together.

Yeah, yeah, thank you. You came in here and said— what did he say?

Did she say something to your mom? Yeah, to your mom's.

Yeah. Nah, that's not what the streets are saying, Freeze. Oh, I don't care what the streets said.

I tell the truth.

Well, I mean on the streets. You went to Macy's with your lady and somebody said something. Hey, if they just said it to me, I'd have dyed my beard too that week. But I'm not really talking to you, I'm talking to the people that are dying. I'm talking to Khaled.

Yo, you sick.

Yeah, he's a sicko. No, you know what happened. It's funny.

Hey, Mark, you are a sicko.

Who in here thinks Joe Budden is sick? Sick? Well, no, that's the wrong question. The reporter raised his hand. Oh my God, who in here thinks I'm sick about this theory? Yeah, it's you, Freeze.

I'm the one that know the truth.

So yeah, I don't know what really happened. I wasn't here. Somebody— nobody— somebody has to feel—

he said he went to the register and someone said, yeah, that's your daughter.

No, I was with— that's what they're saying. They're trying to be funny. I was with my mom. And they didn't believe that I was her son. They thought I was her dude.

Oh, okay. That sucks. That's it.

Mom could be bad. Yeah. No, no, he went and somebody, somebody tried to bag thinking Dad was there. You school shopping? Oh, y'all are bad people.

Yo, yo, that That's crazy. School shopping.

A reporter right there. That's great. That's great. Little traffic keeper. Terrible people. Double on you. Couple people.

Yo, oh shit, well done, well done.

Hey, me too, I'm down. Listen, uh, I don't have anything to say about Wayne's body. I think he went and did something. He didn't look like that at Skip Bailey's house, but I don't I don't care, go ahead. Hey, whatever makes people happy today. You want to look like the fucking built fuck— let me not say it. If he wasn't here, I would tell y'all what he looked like. What, He-Man Jones? Yeah, he looked like— Ram Man. Nah, 'cause this sound like a little racist too, what I want to say. You can't say it about black people, especially in front of white reporters. So we'll wait till later. But he looked like the diesel one of them that I can't say, like in the commercial, like the one you gotta— you gotta spray them niggas like, shush.

Oh my God, I just got it.

He looked like the one that keeps surviving, only with that build.

Anyway, anywho, can you believe Anthony Davis said he's gonna play 82 games this year? Who believes that? I do. Yeah, he don't believe that.

Only I believe it. Yeah, Ninja Turtle abs.

I said I was waiting to get here to tell you. Y'all can all mute up, I'm only talking to Mona, okay?

Yay!

I did it. If I told you—

let me not get carried away. All right, we was with you for a second. He got that shit midway.

From here down, this is the only hair on my body now.

What? I love it.

They just dipped you in the wax.

How's that? Smooth. Does it hurt?

It hurts like a motherfucker.

Oh my God, how long did it take? About 2 hours.

God, did you get lasered? No.

Uh, how they do it? Wax them up. Wax them up. Yo, it's a 2-hour wax.

Yo, don't touch me, bro.

I swear to God, don't touch me. Listen, excuse me. Everybody mute up. I want the audio listeners to know that Ice's legs—

I'm shiny.

Ice's legs are greased up. They soft looking. You look pretty tender. You look soft. Joe, you got to tell us if his legs as soft as they look. You got to touch them, bro.

I want to pull you.

I was about to say, you really want to rub his back.

Why can't you rub Big—

like, that's your man, bro.

What about the back of the hand? You can do the back of the hand.

Back of the hand. Maybe the thigh meat.

No, no, no.

I like you over there. No, I'm saying Joe could rub the back of his hand on your leg.

That's not gay. No, no, he can't.

How about the thigh meat? I'm going to sit down here with Batman.

You look soft.

I can't do it. I look soft too.

Not like a bitch.

Like you look like smooth and soft and like—

And thick. Go sit over there, bro.

Yo, like a bitch.

You smooth and soft. Cory, listen to this.

Cory said Ice look airbrushed.

My stomach is— every day. He don't need it now.

Yo, go sit down, bro.

He don't need lotion no more. That shit is in vain.

I want to see your chichos.

What the fuck? I just need the listeners to know how glossy, how glossy and how good this nigga knee down look. You look good. Good boy, congratulations. I'm proud of you. I want to get lasered like a motherfucker.

That shit painful, huh?

Why'd you leave the artist?

I need to—

can I ask a question that may be sensitive? No, don't let him skip over this one so fast.

No, no, I, I couldn't do it, bro. N, cuz I'm sitting—

yo, I'm sitting over there, he got a big patch of hair on his hand. I'm like, why don't they just get that right? Like, no, no, no, it's, it's—

I got to keep a little masculinity.

That's, that's, that's all men who left right before arms What you talking about?

I love that. No underarm hair. I love that.

Can I ask my sister a question yet?

Yes, please do. Are you transitioning?

Honestly, no, honestly.

And I didn't know you did your underarms.

Did you answer him? Did y'all listen?

And there's that moment I want you to You know the only hair I have right now is on my arm. That's underarms.

I wouldn't think he would have did his underarms.

Why?

And I didn't think trans is a man with a penis.

It's like a seal. I thought he was doing some Odyssey trick again. Holy shit. Yo.

And all of y'all missed that ish. Whose ass is bald right now said that.

My ass not bald right now. Oh, it's back?

Don't say that, so it's disappointing. His back. Yo, though, underarms is—

that's different.

It's a private area.

I think that underarms is the thing I would do the most. Yeah, what?

Underarms, like, you're—

I'm keeping my pit hair, bro.

Just so you know, I mean, it makes you less sweaty under there, right? That I can see in the summertime.

Bring back the days of men going to the military, man. Yeah, look what niggas do we get some free time. Was he transitioning? Crazy.

2 and a half. Yeah, it was, it was, it was a minute. How often you got to do it? Monthly. What?

He did your back too, right? Mind you, as he keep going, the hair stop growing as thick, so it'll turn into 6 weeks and 7 weeks. But at first he got to do monthly. Why is he acting so shocked like he don't get his ass waxed?

Waxing hurts and I don't get my ass wet.

What you get?

I thought you— you do get your ass wet.

I was trying to understand that that was the ass— maybe not this, maybe not this procedure, metaphorically.

Parks, am I tripping or did we understand? I thought we came to the understanding that it removes all the hair.

No, it was laser.

I thought it was laser.

I thought it was laser. He think he better.

I thought he got surgery.

Yeah, he think he better. Bottom line, you think you better.

Not bottom line.

Oh shit. You stupid.

So your hair is not grown back at all still?

No, my shit back. I ain't been in a while.

Yeah, cuz with laser, you got to go a couple times. It fell off.

You have to go a couple of times before the hair is gone for real. It'll keep coming back. Yeah, why don't you do the laser?

Y'all can't talk about Lil Wayne.

My nigga, but yo, the wax shit I heard is really, really painful. So you're a grown man getting your whole backs wack.

An ice bath. You go, you need the fucking, the shampoo. Shampoo. I got this coochie wax, that shit put tears in my eyes.

That shit is painful. I don't know how they just do that every week. No, it's free.

I'm not going to— look, I'm keeping it a buck.

I'm keeping it a buck. Hey, hey, why don't y'all be gentlemen? Y'all ain't Mona's— don't just talk over Mona saying that shit. Come on, Mona. That ain't right. Go ahead. No, Mona says— I can't say what the reporter did. Yeah, what did I say? You said you getting that fat thing. Yeah, that fat thing.

Like, wait, first of all, I said that getting waxed is super painful, and I did it a couple times, and I won't put myself through shit like that anymore.

The funny shit about Freeze is he ain't even trying to be nowhere topless. I am.

That's funny.

That's hell yeah. I was like, oh no, I got—

don't your lady like it? She love it.

Funny shit is, I was like, oh no, I got— like, I looked at myself, gotta get back in the gym.

Like, like, now I'm on it, because you could see it. Now you can really see yourself, right?

I was like, oh shit, now I gotta get my shit right. Yeah, look at this nigga falling apart. You could, but it's— I'm telling you, I know we joking, it's different. It's different.

Did the wax make you feel slimmed down?

No. Yo, please put this on newjersey.com. Lamont Avery got his whole— but no, is—

do laser hurt though? That hurt a little? Nah, it don't hurt like that.

People— it ain't hurt me right there. See, they told me the laser would hurt more. They said that shit like getting popped with a rubber band over and over and over.

But does it make a— does it make a thong look different? I wouldn't know.

You put the Speedo on afterwards. Y'all are crazy. You know he got the ass.

He got the ASAP Rocky drawers.

Yo, I feel like until y'all— one of y'all in here try it like all the way ball, you can't even talk shit, cuz once you do it, you going to like it.

It's cool, we got a topic board right there.

Well, since we already in the zone, we should talk about DJ Envy, I think.

Oh shit, no, it's different. That is a little bit different. A lot different. Talk about what?

It ain't all the way different. Yo, these guys are disillusioned though. That is different.

No, washing your ass should be human 101.

Like, DJ, okay, I'm with you.

That was the wildest headline I've ever— who, who went to their PR person and said, you know what, let's run with this one? Run it.

You crazy.

DJ Envy told the world that he didn't know how to properly wash his ass until his wife showed him how to wash his ass.

I think that's common, huh?

I think it's more common than people are gonna act.

Yeah, I think it's common for people to, um, especially men, to learn like good hygiene tactics from their significant other.

So first one, what is the proper way? What am I— maybe I'm missing something.

I've seen debates online, and mind you, you know, that's the beauty of social media. You found out shit about people you're not supposed to. Remember, remember, remember, yo, what I've heard people talk about when they wash their ass, that they'll put the washcloth on their finger, stick their finger in their ass and clean the rim of their ass with a rag.

I've heard people— who did they talk to?

I've heard people— nobody—

you know what, y'all shut up while Mona's talking.

Go ahead, Mona. Nobody— everybody does things differently. Remember the guy that went viral? He was on a podcast with, uh, my homegirl, and he said that when he shits, he catches the shit before it goes in the water.

Remember that? What? I don't listen to that part. I never heard back to that.

Y'all either don't keep it real, y'all don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. The guy went viral, they were talking about shitting. L'Oreal was one of the hosts. It was a Black guy, I can't— I think his name was Animal or something like that. And when they're talking, he finds out on camera that nobody else does that.

Catching their shit, you think somebody else did that? I'm about to Google it.

It was so viral 6, 7 years ago. With tissue, yes. He thought that that was appropriate. Bottom line, if you're not taught hygiene, if you're not taught proper hygiene as a kid, who's next? Listen, who's next to be close to you? I'm not saying that's a good thing, but he found out that day not to do that.

There's a toilet.

There's a toilet for a reason. Am I supposed to know? And before toilets, there were things called outhouses, and neither one of them do you catch your feces. I know.

You don't do that. Booms. The point of me telling y'all this—

fuck, are we talking about— the point of me telling y'all this was to say that that guy is 30 plus and he finds out right then and there that nobody else does that.

What I'm saying to you, you imagine being his man, like you been giving him dap for years.

No, no, my nigga, you got potty trained at some point in time in your life.

Maybe not. He just figured this shit out.

So part of the training game—

hit the floor, boy.

Listen, let me ask y'all a question. If, let's pretend you weren't sort— here go giggles. Let me let CNN get it out. Get it the fuck out. What I'm saying to y'all is, and correct me if I'm wrong, if you are—

and they pull the mic to their mouth when they giggle—

if you are— exactly. If you are a man and you weren't blessed to have a father or parents to teach you how to wash your hands, like women just be like, look, hold your hand.

What you doing?

You got diarrhea.

Oh, shout out to the single moms.

I'm gonna stay down till I get this out. I shouldn't have threw him off with the other shit. What I'm saying to y'all is, if you weren't blessed to have parents, because some people grew up in foster care, some people grew up in the street, right? And you weren't blessed to be taught proper hygiene. Me, who's the next person that gets that close to you that you would trust to let teach you? It's your girlfriend. It's your wife, right? Think about it. Who else could tell? Who else is going to tell you?

Why do your hands smell like that?

Talking about the dookie, but y'all stuck on the dookie. Sharing a blunt with this guy.

Oh my God.

And I'mma look it up right now, but y'all don't know.

Fam, how was NB cleaning his ass before?

That's a good question.

That's what I was—

that's what I'm trying— that was my question.

Hopefully not like that dude.

Like, yo fam, when I, when I got a V, I used to feel uncomfortable if I ain't have wipes in my house. Word. When?

At what point in life was you on wipes?

Early. You light-skinned. I don't know what you talking about.

I'm asking, babe. 30-something.

Okay, that's what— cuz I thought you was going to say some 8th grade shit.

I'm talking about as I got old. We didn't have flushable wipes when I was in 8th grade. I'm older, but at a certain point—

'70s, they was using outhouses still.

No, fam, at a certain point, yo, you feel uncomfortable as a man. I don't know men— most of my male friends, most have amazing hygiene.

I mean, that's a little weird. Yo, that's not true. My friends all got clean ass.

The hygiene that y'all— the hygiene skills that y'all have—

seen clean?

Who taught y'all how to wipe Wipe your asses and wash your asses. Who taught you? Your parents. No, I'm asking who specifically, who taught you that?

Specifically, who taught you how to wash up? I don't remember.

It was one of my parents.

I know it was my mom.

My son, just maybe a better example for me, my wife taught him. Okay. Yeah.

It was my mom's.

It was your mother. And I ain't gonna lie, I actually watched her teach him so that I make sure I was doing it right. Oh shit. Oh shit. I'm being honest. So your bitch couldn't wash your hippie?

It was this, listen.

Turns out I knew what the fuck I was doing.

Here's another thing. Another piece of proof, it was this big thing online last year. I don't know if y'all remember, especially on TikTok, where all these white people were coming out saying that they learned all this hygiene stuff from Black people sharing it because I guess it's a big cultural difference how we do hygiene stuff.

Well, we didn't know that white people—

yeah, that was washing their legs below their ankles.

We have some whites in the building, but what white people do—

I wash my legs, these things are clean.

How white people bathe and cook is not how we bathe and cook, right? It is different. It is different.

So what I'm saying to y'all is it's different between men and women, it's different between your family. Some people come from dirty-ass backgrounds. Like, if you grew up in some dirty shit, nobody's showing you how to wash your ass. I don't think that that's ridiculous that his wife taught— and I think it's very common that people's wives and girlfriends, the first person that get real close to them like that, teach them shit.

I fuck with Envy. I want to tell some person about myself. Me too, me too. That's why I'm shutting up.

My Virgo ex taught me how to put deodorant on. I think I was like 28.

What were you doing before?

I used to put deodorant on all the way around everywhere. I never censored it where the hair grows. I swear to God, I would put deodorant on everywhere.

She thought it was powder.

She said she use it like that baby powder.

My nigga, he supposed to be my brother.

You thought it was powder?

And listen, my nigga says to me, what the What the fuck are you doing? I said, what the fuck do you mean? He's like, bro, you don't have to put— put my arm up, did it. And I promise you, I saved on bars because I was gonna do a stick a week. Yeah, I promise. And I know your shirts look crazy. Nobody taught me hygiene stuff. I learned— my mother worked a lot, I didn't have that. And nobody sat and taught me, you do da da da da, none of that. Like, wow.

And I think a lot of people had that experience. Glad that DJ Envy has learned StayCon. Fact. How to properly wash his ass, no matter where he learned it from, whether it be his wife, YouTube, or you.

Yeah, Joe, can I play this out? By just to answer the initial question, which is what was he doing before?

Oh yeah, please. He actually says it.

He says, all right, confession, confession. I tell too much up here, but my wife hates it, but it's all good. So yes, I used to be the type of guy that didn't get all up.

He said this on The Breakfast Club?

Yeah, it was init— I think he initially said somewhere else and Yeah, he didn't get all in there.

Go ahead, Mark, please. We're on this ass cleaning topic for man long, please.

He was just doing the cheeks. By the way, he was responding to— just for context, he responded to Eric Benet, who said that men who believe washing with soap and water makes them gay and are likely closeted, right? Wait, um, wait, wait, what?

What? Eric Benet said that— it was funny. Eric Benet is sitting in a tub and he's recording himself and he said, yo, it's a new trend going on talking about how men that wash their asses thoroughly are closeted gay people, right? What?

I've seen—

yo, what part of the internet is this?

I want to make sure we're being clear because I want people to think Eric Benet is not saying it.

We know what he's saying. We understand that, bro. We got it.

Yeah, I can't believe this has to be said. I—

this is wild to me. And that's when Envy said all of that, and then he said one One day, me and my wife, this was a long time ago, you know, we took showers with each other, we washed each other, and one day she got all in there, and I'm like, whoa. And then I realized I'm supposed to wash my ass thoroughly and correctly. So ever since then, I'm like, I wash my ass, but you should get all up in there. You don't want stanky ass.

Now what I will add to that is, yeah, my girl gets deeper than I get. Wow. You know, she be scrubbing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just Chris Paulin' this to us now, man. Come on. Everybody just watch. When she take the loofah and get back there.

The loofah. That's what you named it?

Loofah Band-Drops. Get in here now. Oh shit. Was she taking the loofah? That's a classic callback for a hilarious show. That is a classic. Somebody at the park.

Yo, do y'all know what those African nets look like that people wash up with now? It's like a net, it's a long net, and people don't use washcloths, they say bacteria is good. What the fuck is so funny, Giggles?

Because why would Ish know how African anything looks? No, he don't know what an African net looks like.

You know what it looks like, correct? Yes, I know what you're talking about. Listen, you take that whole net and you putting it between— like, listen, niggas is washing ass now. People are not just fucking around.

I can't believe that it's now.

Yeah, it works. Yeah, well, thank God that men are up on their hygiene, man.

What are they been dealing with?

Another day we could talk about them women.

Shit stains.

Sucking dick right next to a fucking dirty butt hole.

That's literally what they said on air. The crust and the dingleberries used to be there.

Mark, did Mom Donnie do anything? Enough. We did it. We're closing the ass topic. It's over now. We did it for a whole hour.

And I was just going to ask Joe, can I play the catch the dookie clip?

No, you can't play the catch the dookie clip.

Check my Instagram.

I posted it.

Yeah, no, we— They niggas talking about cleaning their ass. I hit the streets with a mean shark the other day. Oh.

That's the thing you wanted to tell us?

Did you throw it away? Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah, he threw it away. What was the alternative? Throw it in the hamper? I'm just asking.

Especially when you live with somebody. It's deadass. Like, you can get away with some nasty-ass draws solo and just toss them in the washing machine.

That's the thing. Now it's somebody there with you, like, seeing your nasty shit. Yeah. That shirt is crazy.

She's all the way down. Yeah, whatever.

All right. What else is important, unimportant? Hakeem Olajuwon. Hakeem Olajuwon, let's do it. Come on, let's fight. We fight about things that I had no idea we would fight about up here.

Uh, cleaning ass, uh, basketball training, uh, abs.

So I was asked, would I pay $100,000 to have Hakeem Olajuwon train me, right? And my answer to that is yes, if I'm a big man in the league and I'm trying trying to improve and I have some money, yeah, would you pay $100,000 a week?

It's a week. Oh, you pay that? Yes.

Can I make it $40 million a year? Yeah, I got a couple hundred.

So why wouldn't you? The question was asked to Niemias Queta, okay, from the Celtics. He's the center for the Celtics, the big dude. And he's— oh, that's the problem already. He's a big Portuguese, uh, guy. He just signed a 4-year, $56 million deal, which ain't quite that much. It's $14 million. Yeah, okay. Um, and they asked him if he would, uh, if he would do that, and he said, no, I'm stingy, I don't spend $100,000 on training. And somebody said, would you make an exception for Hakeem Olajuwon? He said, not even with Hakeem Olajuwon.

Does he, uh, does he play?

Yeah, he plays. And for— in terms of money, he's good. Okay, he just got a 4-year, $56 million extension.

Let me, let me, uh, rephrase that because that sounded disrespectful. Does he play offensively? Actually, no. Hakeem was also a really good defensive player.

I would— he really—

he's a rebounding blocker.

He wanted— no, he wanted to dunk guys. Like, dunks everything he touches. Okay, dunks everything. He did— yeah, he played good in playoffs.

But to answer your question, no, if he called Hakeem Olajuwon, he would get hung up on. Hakeem Olajuwon is not leaving his great room to speak to this gentleman. With all due respect, of course, because he is pretty good. But Hakeem ain't just sitting with anybody.

Yes, he is. No, he ain't. Anybody with $100,000 a week? I don't think he is.

I disagree.

I've heard— if that's the price—

I mean, I've heard players say, I was trying to get in with Hakeem. Hakeem runs a tight schedule. He don't take anybody. Like, I've heard— oh, okay. They talk about it.

If you know, they talk about this. Okay.

If I was a big man, I would pay Hakeem one— to me, one of the most amazing centers of all time, particularly from like a fundamentals, footwork, defense, offense. Like, yeah, I'm gonna sit with him.

Does it matter? I would pay him. Kobe paid.

I don't get a guard doing that. I could see the guard doing it. Today's basketball, yeah, I don't think centers— low post presences down low aren't really prominent, prevalent like they once were. Center's now shooting threes and shit like that.

So I I could see maybe because none of them learn no fucking footwork.

Yeah, the game is too fast for that now.

The game is different. The game is too fast for that. They don't want you down there. It's very few post-ups. I'll give them 200.

Jalen Brunson just won a championship with footwork, right, at the guard spot.

That's why it makes sense. The guard.

Yeah, but look at where he's shooting.

I'm never gonna undersell the importance of, one, footwork, no matter the position. I don't care what the league is doing. And two, I'm never gonna talk somebody out of investing in themselves. I agree, I agree with that. How could I do that?

And just Jalen Brunson, I mean, he's a guard, but a lot of that interesting footwork you see is 6 feet from the basket, you know what I mean? It's not just what he's doing 25 feet from the— yeah, the post-up, it's, it's the post-up, but he's our height, and, and him doing that is impressive. But when I look at the best players in the history of the game, going to Hakeem, I gotta assume there's something to it. Yeah, even, even in this moment. And now, to be fair to this young young man, up until this contract extension, he had— he'd only made about $5 million, if I remember correctly. Yeah, he's a younger player. Yeah, so I understand why he wouldn't have done it before, because you ain't made that much, you can't afford to spend that much. I'm gonna do a week though, right? A week might not— it might be one of the things where it ain't worth it if you don't get the whole package, you know what I mean?

The Celtics just spent a bag on Mitchell Robinson, who has footwork. Yes. So I mean, it's hard for me to hear that footwork is not valued, right?

Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

That's as a dunker and rebounder. Yeah, yeah, like you need footwork for all of that stuff.

Yeah, he said he's trying to expand his game by working on some other things in this offseason. So again, I don't want to make it sound like he's not worried about expanding his game. He talked about specific areas he wants to grow offensively and defensively. I would think, to your point, footwork—

he was just talking about— because he said it wasn't a Kimo where he was like, I'm not— I don't spend $100,000 on training. So, so for nothing is what he was saying. So let me ask you a question. I'm stingy, I ain't doing it.

All right, well, go get with Bobby Portis where the price will be different. Samuel Dallenberg. And I love Bobby Portis, I'm not trying to be funny, I'm just saying. Yeah, Sam, like, go get with the people that— asshole. I like Samuel Dallenberg too though.

I'm from Philly, that's just a diss.

I'm from Jersey, same pass, baby.

Is he, is he a Jersey guy? Jersey. Oh, that explains everything. But let me ask you a question. How much would you— what percentage of your salary would you pay to become even better at your job? Who am I paying it to? Oh, say Joe Rogan, who's number one. I'm just using Joe because number one on the list. Joe Rogan. Um, if he, if he said, look, I'll mentor y'all in podcasting, every single one of us, uh, but it's going to cost X and you will become 20% better at your job, how much is that worth to you? How much is that worth? You know what I mean?

Like, it's worth it for 20%.

Increase?

20% better at your job?

Yeah, I would spend 30%.

You ain't say increase. What? You said just 20% better at your job. You talking about money? Yeah, but that, that 20% better at your job theoretically come with it.

Can y'all answer Mark?

Yeah, I would spend 30% to get 20% better, cuz over 2 years you doubling your shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would spend whatever I could afford, whatever I could spare, including the sacrifice. And I don't—

you You know, yeah, all that shit.

Yeah, if I get 20% better at my job, yeah, because then what you could do with that 20%.

Yeah, if it's guaranteed I'm gonna improve, like if it's, if it's Hakeem, Joe Rogan would podcast and it's like Hakeem with—

that's what I'm saying.

So yeah, I, I would, yeah, I would defer payment. I would do it for free. Take the payment.

Yeah, because some of the problems—

because the thing is, how long do you need to train, right? We saying don't let the numbers confuse you. We saying $100,000 per week. He don't need to be in like a 5 6-month program.

No, but let's say it's a month. No, let's say it's easy.

If you're a basketball player, if he learns one go-to move, it could change this game exponentially. I'm bugging and I'm playing, but, um, I would pay him if it depends. It really depends on the money. And if he was only— had only made up to $5 million at this time, $100K a week to him is still unfathomable because in 10 weeks that's $1 million.

He makes $14 million, you're making about $275,000. $3,000 a week. So right now, yeah, yeah, that's a big chunk, but I would do it for a couple weeks for sure.

You took my month's salary to— for the year? Yeah, to, to develop a, a back to the basket, a little baby hook or something.

Anything that you could take to your employer and yield results with it. Yeah, yeah, I would definitely do that. Makes sense. Um, do we want to talk about— I want to talk about Miracles, man, but maybe it's too soon to do that. Do we want to talk about I don't know the full details.

I'm sure all the details— you gotta—

he's a creep. What's the accusation? He's a creep and it's over. Uh, sexual assault, sexual abuse, uh, pedophile, underage statutory rape, underage women. Oh, like all of the nasty women, plural? Yes, women, plural. Yeah, there's a bunch of them. Uh, hang them up. Uh, yeah. Wow. Yeah, and this is a thing because, uh, Jared Leto has a role in— I don't watch his movie— She— She— What's the She-Girl? She-Girl? She-Woman?

He— He— I don't know, it might be— That's Universe.

Well, he's— he's in that. Okay, he's in She— He— His voice is in She-Woman, and he's Skeletor. So he's in current movies that are are lit with these.

They took place between 2002 and 2016. They were 16 to 18 years old while he was in his 30s and 40s, allegedly. All of course, pack him up. Yeah, I mean, if it's true, pack them up.

Pack him up. Pack him up. Pack him up. You gotta go. Sorry. And listen, I do not think all white people look the same. I do you think that it's a coincidence to— for me, that Jared Leto and Russell Brand look, uh, oh shit, look as similar as they do and are both on the hook for the creepy charges? Which led me to maybe something that is inappropriate, but I'm gonna ask you guys anyway.

Please.

I know he's there. The canceled— I'm talking about the super canceled whites versus the super canceled blacks. Who wins? Who wins? Because on the white side, fine, win.

Who we got?

Sorry, canceled on a talent off. Oh, I mean super canceled. Okay, I'm talking about like Jared Leto, Kevin Spacey.

Because see, ours don't ever really get super canceled. Like Michael Jackson's still popping, R. Kelly is still playing it. R. Kelly's canceled, bro.

R. Kelly's canceled.

R. Kelly's canceled. Super canceled. Okay, Bill Cosby, his music playing don't mean he's not canceled.

That speaks to the— and it don't play as much—

it would— is it not even remotely close, of course, to the frequency that it would be playing if he was not canceled? Yeah.

Okay, I, I, I feel like the community is still divided on that, cuz I go— I go to a lot of parties and still hear Jared Leto, Russell—

Russell Brand, or Russell Brand. You're right, it is Russell. I want to be sure to not confuse that with Russell Crowe, who's the real— who's— that's my God. Yeah, yeah. Kevin Spacey. That's a tough 3. I'm not going to put Louis CK on that list right now, even though that standup was one of the worst pieces of content that we have digested recently.

I didn't think so. We should argue about Patreon. Okay, have you seen some of his older work? I've seen every, every single thing he's done. I thought it was his least good one, but I didn't think it was bad, as bad as you guys said it was. I watched it after I heard y'all review of it, so I was expecting to be complete trash, and I thought it It was just—

no, you know, it was really bad. Bill Cosby, R. Kelly, the end, right? Yeah, that's true.

Y'all shut me up. You got it, Kevin. Who? Jerry Leto, you're done, buddy. But listen, is there a larger conversation? Not for here, because none of us are actors or have our after— uh, like, like, why does Hollywood just seem to look the other way for some of these people. I tell you, when it comes to, uh, I think the world does.

Yeah, but I don't think it's just Hollywood. They do it in politics, they do it in Hollywood, they do it in music. It's everywhere, bro. It's a money thing. And so if we can make money, if we can make money from you, niggas will turn their head to some, to some egregious bullshit as long as you still turn a profit, but you're profitable.

But I think it's something else too. I agree with that. I think it's the money, and I also think they're connected in ways that cutting this person off me, like, blood in, blood out. I think a lot of them are all tied together. Yeah. And so it's not easy to cut them off because they're like, oh, you, you, oh, you cut me off for this? Okay, okay, Jim. Well, here's, you know, the skeletons over here. Exactly. And it's all the same party.

But I think that's in all of these avenues. It ain't just Hollywood. I think that same shit is in music. I think that's the same shit.

Very close.

I think that same shit is in politics. Everywhere. And nobody's cutting each other off because we all in this.

I think those three 3 domains are probably the biggest though.

I think politics is number one.

I'm saying, could be, could be politics and the police for sure.

Oh, I don't know about that part.

The police, I didn't know that.

Well, you know, if you have a good cop, come, he come on his force and he see shit that's wrong, he tell somebody, they put shit in his locker.

Oh, for sure. We talking about just, I'm talking about sexual, the sexual, the sexual shit in particular. I'm with you, they all on.

What's the difference?

No, no, we just, we were just trying to figure out where the most sexual depravity is happening. I agree with you. They put—

and it's a very, very big difference.

There's a culture of it in Hollywood.

Corrupt cops and sexual assaults. It's everywhere, bro. Epstein Island exists, man.

That's number one.

And that's politics, that ain't entertainment. Yeah, yeah, that's the point. That's a real—

although there is a lot of entertainers in that one as well.

If it was rumored that anybody that we know was doing some of that shit, there's no way I'm getting on an airplane. I don't want to— you can't have my phone number. Word. Some of the most powerful people in the world were his peoples.

So that just speaks volumes. Yeah. Um, we can stay here and talk about Dean the Great facing up to 15 years in prison after a woman claimed he forced her off of a yacht and grabbed her while she recorded him, uh, leading to a felony robbery charge. He was arrested on the issue. He's facing 15 years, you said? Yeah, damn.

Yeah, I mean, I don't really have enough information to really— it got to be more. I don't know, I'ma just, you know, I don't like everything I've seen from— and again, it's been mostly clips, I don't really watch a lot of it, but you could kind of— they just was playing very, very close Yeah, you could see at some point something was going to happen. Like, y'all are doing a lot on these streams with these girls, and in this climate today, it was—

that's why I'm surprised y'all got your somber voices on. You know what I'm saying?

I don't know enough to— I don't want to convict them.

Yeah, let me read this to you. It says the defendant is seen on the video putting his hands— the defendant is seen putting his hands on the victim multiple times, attempting to grab her phone, where struggle ensues over the taking of the phone as the victim is trying to get away from him, where she could be seen cradling her body to the floor trying to stop the defendant from taking her phone. Um, read an excerpt from the affidavit. So that's why he got robbery, because he was trying to take your phone. I'm assuming she recorded something. Yeah, but I mean, I'm with Joe when the whole like with the somber voice thing, because I feel like I've been cringing at some of this forever. What's the little boy name that just went viral for cussing the bitch out basically because she wouldn't fuck him? That little boy kept going viral over and over and over negatively, but he was like all over for a while. Let me just give you his name. Goddamn it. I'm sure y'all talked about it up here. It was super viral. Okay, give me a second. Goddamn it.

See, I think I'm on the same page as Ice. I think they, in this content era, they play too much. Like, some of that shit that they be doing in my hood, you would have got your ass— like, they just really, really, really teeter the line a lot. But we look at his content, they getting mad views, they getting all this virality from doing it. So it's like, yo, we gonna just keep, keep doing it until somebody don't want to play no more, or something happened with somebody. Like, because again, it could be something— they could have a personal relationship.

I don't think that's what it is. I think when you add cameras and clout and alcohol, you're just gonna automatically think the same.

I also think when you give people a lot of money kind of quickly and for doing like— yes, just being dumb, you could really lead to a bad situation.

Um, it was a, it was a video with, um, the rapper from New York City doing a stream like 2 or 3 weeks ago. I think his name is TJ, right? Okay. And him and the streamer, who's like a young white guy, they get into to a back and forth, and the streamer feels like he's trying to bully him. So at some point, he asks him to leave the property, and while he's leaving the property, he runs up and smacks this nigga in the back of the head. It instantly turns into some ghetto brawl shit, and they're chasing him in. Mind you, Streamer Boy got some old, uh, uh, some homies that do some MMA and shit, so they didn't get their ass kicked. They really start kicking ass for real, but it turned into— somebody could have really got hurt. Like, a weapon could have been brandished. My security is in the middle Melee too, because these niggas pay security and the security is always 6'5" and they're sober, I would like to assume. But they just too young with too much money too fast and they're drunk. And then it's like with the guy I was talking about, he's caught on camera like, "Bitch, you ain't gonna give me no pussy." Like he's completely going there about feeling like she owe him some pussy, not even realizing that the people are watching this.

Because that's corny, but that's how life is. Like it get like that, you know? I bought you a dinner, da da da. Right? But to do it on camera where everybody's about to judge you and look at it, it's like, it's crazy.

It's two things. Yes, it's crazy to us. I think a lot of them play to that incel culture who they feel entitled. They feel like we're owed these things, so they kind of speaking for them. Yeah. And they championing that shit, like, yeah, that's right, tell her she do owe you something. Yeah. So it's, it's a combination of things, but like, back to them. I just kind of figured at some point there was going to be something happening because, well, incel means involuntarily celibate.

Yes. Why would you want to emulate those guys? Or why would you want to—

I just think they know what's up because that crowd spends money and they sub. That crowd, that, that woman-hater crowd, they are so supportive towards the guy that that they, you know, you know, consider king. That's why you feed them, because they show so much love financially. That's why. It's terrible.

It's sickening. It's bad. It's really nasty.

Yeah, but that same thing when you broke is very different when you have money.

Yes, but I think— but if you just getting the money, you don't really know that yet, and you just got to go, what, what's getting the money? What, where's the money coming in? All right, let me keep feeding Come on, I'm—

oh, I hear y'all. I'm all the way on a different side. I don't have a somber voice for this. These niggas have been asking for it. Yeah, no, these niggas are on there doing everything. No, they ain't teetering. They have not been teetering a lot. They have not been teetering a lot. They have been miles past the fucking line. Like, what, what do you want me to say about this? Like, and it's funny that this is all gonna fall on the streamer, right? Because I'm getting to the streaming company who's allowing this. Y'all got alcohol there. Y'all can't say to girls, yo, suck my dick, I want to fuck you, pull your pussy out, all of these things. No, you can't say these things. Sorry, sorry, that's not me making the rules up. And if you do, then have the lawsuit money ready, have the settlement money ready, have the lawyer money together. And trust me, it's a lot. When Adrienne Broner got, uh, accused and she said, yo, I'm taking him. I'm— he sexually did whatever. He was like, oh no, don't start treating me different now because y'all think I got some money.

Hey, news flash, dodo head, that's exactly what's going on.

Yeah, you will be treated differently, huh? I'll tell you what's gonna change it too, is once the, the Twitches of the world get hit with a suit too because of it. A big one. Yeah, a big one. A big one.

Well, yeah, so much money, they'll take the small suit.

All it takes is one person to get hit upside the head at VH1 to sue VH1 for them to come in here and start handing out Plastic cups. Yeah, yeah, it only takes one. But I mean, they have been running amok for a little while, and anybody with eyes been looking like they've been bugging out. Oh, this is any day now.

Yeah, the streamer that I was speaking of was Deshae. That's what his name was. He got— he had like a viral incident with a girl on a boat, and that's what it caused a lot of conversation. But that was really the argument. You supposed to be fucking me and you didn't, you're not fucking me. And they got like— I think he pulled her wig off at a point in in the video or something like that. But, and I feel like the only rules in it is what the stream allows. So let's say Kick or whatever it is doesn't allow you to say, uh, gorilla, they'll make sure they don't say that.

But everything else is on.

So there's no, there's no force to make sure it's okay besides like the police, and that's against the law, you know what I mean? They out of control, they kids.

Well, okay, but you could be a kid and you could go book some girls to be on your stream that want to be around you. Yeah, I never see a girl look like—

it don't come off as authentic. Like, even, even the shit we see a bunch of people—

girl that want to actually be with you don't come off authentic.

No, no, no, you paying the girls to now come to be on the stream. Oh, you are? They doing little dumb shit. They doing dumb shit in real time for the genuine reaction and the genuine response from the people, the stream that. That's the thing.

The girl I'm speaking about, her flight was booked and all that, and that was— that was the debate at first, who paid for her flight. Most of those girls are paid. Most of what you see is already not authentic because they're not sitting there for nothing. They sitting there for Don and whatever little check they gonna get from being here, you know what I mean?

And again, these niggas are lit. Them girls are gonna want to go be over them streams, bro.

That's the other part that's confusing to me. I believe these dudes to be talented it as well. So why is the focus always the woman? The women— y'all are the celebrities, quote unquote.

Bro, we doing what— once the— once the needles start moving, we still— I'm gonna keep doing what makes the needle move.

Do something else then.

Do something else. That's what they doing, you know what I'm saying? Like, literally, like, yo, if this works, we have a formula now of what is working. They gonna keep doing it. And again, we're gonna keep doing it to the max. So now we're gonna get bigger. So this one got 2 million streams. Cool, we're gonna take it to the next level. This one got 3.5, this one got 8, and they just keep going. Like, like, dude, we mentioned it, right? Some of the other clips was him, him and AB about to fight. Yeah, stuff like that, not girl-related stuff. But that might not generate enough as having a girl over here doing XYZ. Oh, now they see this, they start playing algorithm games and start looking at these numbers and analytics— I'm sorry, analytic games. Oh shit, that that's working. All right, so you know what, do that. Turn it up. AB not drinking right now, all the other shit I'm working on in the gym. I don't care about that. I'm gonna go over there. Yeah, they don't care about you in the gym. All right, cool, good for you, but that ain't moving the numbers up over here.

More credit than I am. I feel like most of that is we gonna get up today, we're gonna wear this jewelry, we're gonna wear these type of clothes, and whatever happens, happens, because we're, we're starting with this bottle of dime. I don't even think that planned out.

I, I think there's some level of planning to it. Like, we, we know what works. Yeah, that's all. So one, even if you see it in some process of happening.

All right, cool, let's lean over here because we know it don't work if it gets your stream shut down and mad lawsuits start coming your way. Well, now you run out of money. Now you're learning. It doesn't work. Find something else that works. You niggas look stupid doing that shit. If you're turning the camera on and you inviting women around, try respecting them.

Yeah, like, be a gentleman, maybe.

Yeah, it goes back to what we just said though. Who— that, that, that's— that community of incel niggas, they not watching you respect attract no women. Now you lost them, but that's who you feeding. That's the real problem. That's the problem. You start feeding them, you, you locked in with them. So we got to do what y'all want to see.

As soon as they get a bad bitch on camera, first question, how many, how many bodies you got? Like, it's all a little, you know, it's just that type of thing. But that, that seems to be the culture, like, with them. That's why even when people say to me, oh, you should stream, it's like, I don't even see where people my age fit in there with that because that shit is like kitty.

Y'all know I'm streaming People constantly jumping, yo, you gonna do this? No, bro, I'm sitting there playing video games.

Oh, you streaming? What do you play games?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'm playing video games. I respect to that. That's not— I'm not from that. That's not my culture. Yeah, but these, these kids, they watch hours and hours and hours and hours of these just running around doing . Yeah, bro, Kaisa and them be having 24-hour live . For us, I'm not watching nobody for no 24 hours just do whatever. But for that generation, that's a thing. They watch it.

I don't even think it's fair to put Carson's name in this.

No, I'm just giving you an example of somebody young that's popular that was staying on the stream for 24 hours straight.

You're speaking to my example. You young niggas find something the fuck else to do. No, find something else to do.

I'm talking about the attention span of their generation. These niggas will watch that shit for hours. We're not doing that.

Then find something to do knowing that people are watching you for all of these hours. I agree. I know, I don't need the culture, uh, incel culture to be explained to me. I'm saying stop it.

Yeah, yeah, fuck them. But it's hard to tell that to a nigga if you know that's where your money coming from. That's all I'm saying.

I hear you. I'm not, I'm not with nobody having to be a slave to their audience. Yeah, you've been— I'm not with nobody letting their audience turn them into something else. So now we— you just— what, what, which is a, uh, caricature of yourself? I'm not, I'm not with that. Because for some eyeballs, that's really what it is. —go ahead and do what y'all doing. Tell them, we with it. Uh, what else, what else, what else is there?

Y'all got some— I mean, we ain't talk TV in a minute. What's up? Uh, we all Ted Lasso people? Yeah, I am. New season coming out. Really? Yes, they just announced it. Uh, interesting, season 4, he's with a new team, because I know what you're wondering with the storyline.

Maybe you're wondering— well, I thought that— I thought it was a series finale. It's a surprise kind of—

they brought it back from the dead. They brought it back.

And they— which, you know, yeah, right. Everybody know what that mean. He's going to be coaching a women's team, still in Britain. OK. So it allows the storyline to continue with the family and all that other stuff, I'm guessing, but with a whole new squad. So I'm looking forward to it. I usually don't like when these things get renewed because they usually suck. But the quality of Ted Lasso was so good, and it was still so early— it's only season 4— that I don't feel like they've run out of ideas or run out of gas. Getting a new team allows you to do a whole lot of interesting stuff.

I did try that Larry David history show and I made it 10 minutes into the show.

Oh, it did that bad?

And I was surprised. He was just doing curb jokes from the aspect of the Constitution.

Yeah, it was like— I was, I was looking forward to something way better.

It was bad.

I couldn't even look.

Maybe it gets better, but the 10 minutes I saw, I was like, I can't keep watching this.

Did any of y'all watch, um, Schitt's Creek?

Yeah. So I'm watching it now, actually.

I did watch it Sold the, uh, brother from the show, and I think it's the same writer or something. They have a new show.

He wrote Schitt's Creek too, him and his dad. Okay, the dad and the son are real dad and son, and they wrote and produced that show.

They have a new show called Bad Mistakes. Okay. Um, it's on, I believe it's on Netflix.

I think I saw, I saw him there.

It's in, it's in line with that. It's funny.

Yeah, it's a really good show.

Brother and sister do some bullshit, get tied up with some criminals, and basically get blackmailed in to run it for them. Okay, but you know how his style of comedy— yeah, check it out. If you fuck with Schitt's Creek, you'll fuck with it.

Yeah, I'm late to it, but it's a good show.

Um, speaking of television, uh, all right, pull your timer out please and put it to 3 minutes.

Are you going to tap me at 2:30? I'll try. Okay, so there's a documentary out—

no, no, no, no, no, no, don't try to steal some time.

That's what I was doing. Goddamn. Got it. Okay, there's a documentary out called Toxic Love on Netflix. Did you see it, Parks? Did you love it? I did. Listen, the reason why I love it— oh no, Joe, get the fuck out of here. The thing about it was at first I was a little like, uh, because I just watched the pregnancy one and it was like giving Liar. Because once they got— well, let me explain to the people that are watching. I forgot it's a show. Um, so it's about, um, this guy named Ian who condo with his ex. They break up. Some kind of way he's still living in the condo. His new girlfriend moves in the condo and she's experiencing all this harassment. Um, people emailing her, calling her, playing on the phone. It goes so far as somebody responds to like a sex ad where they want to get into some sexual assault, sexual assault things. This person books that for the house. This guy comes to do a pretend climb in the window and take the coochie with somebody that has no idea. Like, that's That's how deep it was getting.

And then eventually somebody attacks her in the garage, right? Yeah. Um, I loved it. It's one of those like, take a good twist to it, you know what I mean?

Once I saw there was still an hour left in the show, I was like, where is this shit about to go?

Where is it going?

Because it kind of maxed it out. Then it went—

I was almost frustrated with myself that I didn't automatically assume that it was the man, because I love what Michelle said. People never look at the man. Like, when it's a situation where there's two women, people never pinpointed the man. And the crazy thing about it was the man was the one behind everything, Ian, the boyfriend. So all of it was set up, but he was the police. He was a fucking federal agent. So when the feds get involved in it, they come and they're like, we gotta look at this, this shit don't look right. Because alleged stalker girl goes to jail, Michelle goes to jail for stalking, um, the new bitch goes to jail for, I guess, lying to the police. And the fed guy, Ian, is just walking around with no— with not in any trouble. So, um, at the end they find out it's Ian and he goes to jail for 15 years.

Wow, spoiler alert. But yes, yes, 70 Seconds. I enjoyed it as well.

It was good.

What was your favorite part? Uh, just the twist of it all. Yeah, I didn't see that coming at all.

Me neither. I was mad at myself that I see it coming because I'm a girl and I know it's always the boy because boys are problems. Like, men are the root of evil.

Sometimes girls go a little crazy too, so, you know what I mean, man? That's a good one.

Allegedly, allegedly.

There we go. Now there's my baby Parks back. No, but it was good. Check it out if you haven't checked it out. I just ruined it for you.

Yeah, she did that. You told me she did that.

38 seconds left, yo.

Hold up, clap it up, yo.

Thank you, thank you. I've been working on stuff.

Thank you. That was great.

That was good.

Thank you so much. What I didn't get—

he did all of that because they fucking own the house together.

That's all it was. It was beef over that property.

I don't understand that, to say the least.

He wanted to get the bitch out the house so he can keep that I don't want—

I don't want to offend anybody. What? Adult Disney people? Oh, are the weirdest motherfuckers. Sometimes they can fall on the weird side, baby.

Bro, sometimes it's cool, sometimes they're fucking weird.

It's only cool when they get married there, like shit like that. They do their little bridal party. But niggas that just hang out at Disney at 40 are weirdos. I don't care. Yeah, I can say that with my whole chest, bro. I didn't even discover them till I took my kids to Disney. I'm like, what are all these fucking grown people? And then I discovered Disney After Dark where everybody gets drunk and fuck each other. That's fun. Wait, what's that? Hold on. Disney After Dark jumps. You put them kids to bed, act like it's a nanny, that shit hit the streets. Live. Yes, Disney After Dark is lit. It's like bars and everything.

Oh, that's why everybody was down in Florida last week.

I'm not— spent all that money. That's a thing. That is a thing.

My bad, I didn't mean to blow it up. My bad, my bad.

Yeah, that's a thing. Yeah, but no, it totally makes sense because if you really pay pay attention and set her up from the door because she spends her whole savings to get him in the condo. His whole plan was just to steal the condo from the girl. That's craziness. Yeah, it got real. Plus, they both weren't that cute. The timer's up.

And, uh, yes, good shit though. Thank you. No, you killed it. Um, in show news, and then we can leave this, uh, Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed.

I still— oh, one of it's also fire.

I'm sorry, let me leave. Yeah, no, I'm just telling you, if you got nothing to watch, quirky little dramedy, weird a little bit, but if it's nothing else to watch, you will enjoy it.

Margo's Got Money Problems, also great. Yes, also great. Great. Where's that? It's on Apple. It's on Apple.

It's got— Margo's Got Money Problems.

Yeah, it's got the dude. I haven't seen Furious yet.

Furious is on Hulu.

It's got Nicole Kidman. No, yeah, Nicole Kidman. It's got Michelle Pfeiffer. It's got fucking and, um, my man Tom from Parks and Rec.

You could have stopped in the cold.

Yeah, yeah, it's a really, really good show.

It's quirky but kind of serious. Girls, uh, has a kid, dude doesn't want nothing to do with it, she starts an OnlyFans, trouble ensues. Sounds great.

Yeah, it's good.

Yeah, it's funny. Maximum Guarantee— Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed kind of has a little OnlyFans plot.

That Margo shit is funny. It's good. I like that one.

It's a, it's a, it's a cam soda guy, but on the show it's Cam Pop. It's a cam soda guy who is on cam fucking jerking off a whole bunch of people. So the girl, the lead character, she's one of the people that subscribe. Uh, so while she's watching him, uh, somebody fakes his death. Like, they start role-playing. Somebody comes in and kills him. So she thinks he's really dead, so she goes to check on him and he's really dead. Oh shit. Oh shit. Okay, that's the— that's it. There's nothing else I can tell you. I told you it's weird and quirky, but have at it. I am on episode 9. Yeah, me too. I haven't finished it yet, but I'm on episode 9.

It got better. It got better.

And I'm on episode 8 or something of of Widows Bay.

Oh, that's my new favorite. I finished that one.

Plus, yeah, starting shows, getting almost to the end, and kind of like blue balls, just leave it there.

Widows Bay was my shit. Yeah, mine too.

Yeah, I wish that came out in the fall. Spooky vibes. Yeah, I'm ready for another season already. Yeah.

Um, and Lioness coming soon.

Yeah, it's coming soon. Yeah, everybody can't wait.

Lioness is coming soon. That whole little run. Yeah, yeah, the gauntlet.

It's time to go. Mayor Kingstown. Oh yeah, it's coming this time. Can't wait.

Um, come on, let's talk about— let's talk about hating assholes. Yes. Uh, Miracle Watts gets married to the Tyler dude on whatever date that was the other day, and immediately the day after, some hating asshole comes to the internet to say, uh, hey, I was fucking on him and he gave me $350. That's it. That was one of the funny parts. Word.

Bitch said, yo, you got $350 Yeah, you got to fuck that fine nigga, girl.

Sounds like a winch, I guess.

I mean, that's what she said. Yeah, that's what she said, nigga.

But, um, I'm riding with my man. Like, I ain't see no dates, I ain't see no verifications. You showed a picture, some pants over there by the bed. Oh, you riding with him? He wasn't even there.

I don't know the story. It's—

I'm I'm missing something. Miracle Watts got married to, uh, an actor dude, Tyler Lepley. Lepley. Yeah, he's been in, um, a few up-and-coming things, and women find them really attractive. So a couple days after they got married, a young lady now puts out some shit. But the why—

that's what I'm trying to say, why she came out with that.

Wow, I have no idea. No, yo, but she had literally like, uh, text message conversations between the two of them, him sending her to the hotel. Yeah, yeah, him sending her to a hotel. It was one exchange where she was like, yo, I would come but I'm kind of on my period. And he was like, what that got to do? Oh, we got showers out here. She like, all right, I'm on my way. So she put all that out and then she put out the shit with him giving her $350 and everybody's like, yo, this nigga got caught cheating already, blah blah blah. But to my observation, there were no dates on the text messages. It could have been texts from years ago.

It was old. No, they were dated. It was 2023.

Yeah, it was old. Oh, see, I didn't even see that. That must be some new shit.

There were some with none, no dates, and some with dates, and the dates were 2023.

Oh shit. Damn. But they've been— but their whole point was they were even— they were together even. Like, it's just hating hoe shit. Like you said, bro, we had a new level in 2026 that we wasn't at in 2023.

Crazy. Yeah.

No, no, you're right. I ain't got nothing to say.

Coming to the internet with screenshots from 3 years ago, it's crazy.

For what? Coming to the internet with screenshots is crazy. But now, especially old screenshots, like, and it ain't like you, you only did that because you saw this dude got married.

Well, that's what I was trying to understand. Like, did she have some other it's like, you know, he lied to me, we used to— I thought we was together.

No, these niggas viral and I'm gonna attach to it. Yeah, that's ill. That's where we are today, bro. That's where we are today. This nigga, that wedding, them wedding pictures was— and they looked great, especially if you knew.

Like, this other thing, if you knew he was with somebody that whole time, then like, you knew.

And then the wedding pictures look great. Remember they went viral just dancing in the clubs? I want to watch them.

Do we all subscribe subscribe to that? To what? Like, if you are dating a woman and you know she got a husband, or you know she got a main boyfriend, and something happens attached to it, just with y'all, are you forever banned from really doing some sucker shit because you knew she had a man? Or when you frame it like that, sucker shit as in like going public? Yeah, snitching on— yeah, yeah. I think it's goofy. Yes, I just want to put it on us because— oh, oh, well, absolutely. I think that shit is off. So if he wasn't lying to Shorty— I don't know if he was or he wasn't— but if he wasn't lying to Shorty and then she went public, I think that's nuts. I think if he was lying to Shorty, she would have had— she'd have threw some of that in her proof. She tried— it looked like she dumped whatever she had, whatever she could do to try to frame him as bad as possible. And that ain't— that ain't gonna get it done.

The other thing I wonder her about. Because again, if he was being honest with her and she knew what she was getting into, I think putting something out is, is not cool. But the other thing you have to think about, if that's what happened—

and again, I don't know, I'm hearing this the first time—

um, I'm thinking about his wife. You're also embarrassing her and putting her in an ugly spot, you know what I mean? I, I don't support any of it, but even if she had just gone to her, that's different than putting somebody on Blah. Yeah, the usual, as a— right, exactly. As opposed to going on the internet and putting, putting this and putting— we sound like dinosaurs, right? I don't think this dinosaur show—

he messy boots, messy boots.

Nah, let's go. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just like, how do we always get to such an educational deep dive when some shit is just hilarious? Yo, I just think it's fine. You want privacy, nigga, you got to pay more than $350. Number one, $350 is not getting nobody to hold some shit down. That's number one. Number two, if I gave you $350 You can't break my marriage up. I'm sorry. Hey, you can try. Hey, throw all the receipts out. Hey, throw the video of me fucking you out. If I gave you $350, you can't ruin my marriage. You're not a threat? You— not at all. Not at all. I'm sure— I'm telling my wife. Me and my wife laughing about— I gave her $350 a couple years ago. Like, look, look, clearly she didn't use it, do what she was supposed to do with it. You can't break my marriage. Level up. Start a business. Level up. Get a nail salon, bitch. Get a laundry mat. Thought she was going to get you something, sell pencils, go do something. Evidently she do what she supposed to do, right? And if you wanted to ruin my relationship, dog, you do it before I get married.

Dumb dumb dodo. I'm married around. I'm in the game now.

That's a good point.

I'm in the game.

And in a perfect world, everybody drags her, nobody follows her, nobody interviews her, everybody hates her. In a perfect world.

We don't live in that world. Exactly.

So this bitch should be viral next week. Week with her interview. They put the towel.

That's right, Mark is gonna do it. You know Mark gonna talk to him.

I would never do that.

Now you're gonna bring her right to the content house.

When I said something about the towel, when I said somebody for the period, I said, oh, you said that's not freaky, then what is it? Oh, um, the fact that he would hit a strange, like, it's a random, like, a random—

I don't know if she random or not.

She ain't random if he fucking on her period. That's what I'm saying. That's my point. And we don't know that he did that.

But I'm just saying, if she was saying that's freaky, I'm saying I don't— that doesn't go on a freaky list to me. What is it? Just Tuesday. Like, I don't think we all do that, have done that. I don't—

because y'all wouldn't— we all— speak for yourself.

You've never had sex on your period before?

Hell no. Raise your hand if you believe that.

I don't give a fuck. Yo, can you put in newjersey.com that Mona be fucking on her period? Oh, hell no, please don't, please don't, sir. Look, now she— now she care, right? That's how I feel when you go to the hood. Shut up. All right, damn. Anyway, listen, what else is important, unimportant? What else needs our attention up there?

You know who needs our attention? Max. Oh, what is— two— what is— I don't know what you think I'm about to talk about. I, I was actually talking talking about, uh, uh, what's his name? Tony Romo.

Yeah, I want to talk about it.

Let's do that. Let's actually do that. I was going somewhere. I was going back to the basketball world with the Stephen A stuff and please apologizing to Kyrie. And I was also thinking about this Kawhi shit, but we can go to Tony Romo first.

He had a DWI— a DWI, I believe, or DW—

it was not a DWI, it was an affiliate. That shit was funny.

Yeah. Was. Fuck that. What? He—

they, they, uh, he, he blew something light. It wasn't crazy, but they made him do the whole tests, the, you know, sobriety shit. Yeah. And the, the funny part was really the punchline, 'cause they asked him about his, his concussions. Yeah, that shit funny as shit. Hold on a second.

Park's got it for us. Come on.

I hate that people— we could see that though. I hate that we could just watch each other do it football drills and shit.

This shit is crazy.

Don't show me drunk on the side of the road.

No DUI. No, you should.

You, when I'm drunk, you might be the funniest person in the world. Probably. That second line ain't happening.

Depending on what city.

Yeah, cuz they get to whooping your ass in the right city. It won't be funny to whooping my fucking ass.

Want to get pulled over in Atlantic City, might go a little different.

Oh my God, I beat Danny Hey, this is crazy.

So they put him through the whole run-through, and then this is kind of where it culminates.

All right, sir, did I pass this test? Turn around.

No, I didn't.

That's funny. I didn't pass. Oh, shit.

All right, did you see all the edits they made when he asked about— when they asked about the concussion? Like they— like he thinking about all the little plays when he got his head knocked off and shit. I don't know about y'all, but I hate the fact that that's like public knowledge, like those arrests. I don't get it. What's the point? What is the point of us seeing people DUIs?

What's the point? I agree. I'm joking, but I agree.

Y'all crazy as hell.

This one was pretty funny, so I wasn't mad.

I'm not talking about celebrities, but just in general, why can we watch our—

some of my favorite TV shows of all time just consist of, yes, uh, the wild crazy chases, uh, wild police pullover stops. Like, they're great shows like that. And this was rather innocent. It was, it was. We— this is after the fact. We didn't learn about it like in real time. Tony Romo was still him. It's still Tony Romo. Now, I would like for somebody to put an APB out on where Mark Sanchez is, or at least put all the paparazzi in front of Mark Sanchez's house and Let's wait for him to come out the house.

I don't like that he's got to step away from his, uh, his role at CBS or whatever. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, nigga, ain't no story with Tony Romo. The white guy got drunk, got behind the wheel.

Yeah, who gives a fuck?

It's about Tony Romo. He had a beer, he had a butt. The white guys have a Becks and they fucking take a little drive. They drive a golf cart or some shit. Who the fuck cares about that? Mark Sanchez, he was wild the fuck out, but he's been allowed to go and just be home. What do you do though?

Whip some ass?

He stabbed an old guy. What do you mean whip some ass?

The guy was fighting. No, they weren't fighting. This guy was doing his job making a delivery in New Orleans that weekend. He was sitting in a truck and drunk Mark Sanchez opened the door, pulled him out, started punching on him.

The guy was 69 years old.

Yeah, yeah, I remember we talked.

It wasn't that long ago.

Yeah, it really wasn't. And Mark Sanchez has been able to just go home and lay on a craftmatic and nobody's seen him. Nobody said a peep. That, but that fucks me up when I'm home. I ain't gonna lie, sometimes because we pod so much and we talk about so much shit, randomly a news story will pop in my head that we covered and I'll be like, well, that was the end of that. Yeah, no, no, no, no update. That was the end of that coverage. Nobody cares anymore. No update. We don't get to see the guy.

Just go about it, to tell you the truth. Damn, it was just last October.

It was October 2023. What that mean? Yeah, took care of the right one.

When you forget about a story, they wanted you to.

Yeah, job well done. Yeah. Oh, actually— oh, his— what? His trial got delayed 5 times. Yeah, and now his new trial date is September 8th. They going to delay it again. They start keep delaying it, get it out of mind. That's how you do it. Marry and Indiana. Yeah, that's, that's one of the things I want to ask you.

You're gonna think I'm trying to be funny, but I'm not. I want to ask you, do you still feel the way that you felt about, uh, Luigi, about his case?

I haven't been following it. Well, there's some new updates, new stuff happened.

Oh no, not necessarily.

Yeah, I have to know what he thinks about it.

I still feel the same.

You was Team Luigi, right?

Based on the stuff that I heard and the stuff that I've read, yeah. Like, I wasn't saying I'm Team Luigi. I'm not saying that. I just think that it's more to it than what they gave us.

You don't think he did it?

Or if he did it, he ain't dolo? Because Ice was with you.

Ice, you saw that same time, right? Yeah, they, they were saying that it didn't add up, particularly like the man.

I'm not, I'm not bringing that up. Please bring it up. No, I'm not doing it. It's okay. That guy, that guy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't even know. And I'm sure your stance has changed on this. I would hope so. Yeah, no, he's up shit creek. He's over. Yeah.

Oh, I think I know what you're talking about, but I never was on his team. I'm just saying, like, yo, dog, I just believe in— you just believe in letting the due process play out again. And I think us as Black people, we should all stand in letting due process play it out because so many of us have been falsely convicted that I don't think I think that's asinine for me to have that take.

But since then, so much evidence has come out, then that's a whole different—

exactly. But yeah, even if we do like due process, we still get fucked.

That makes sense. That does make sense. I mean, I guess for me, there's sometimes where the hell with it. Yeah, yeah. Like, is there never a case that pops up that makes you say the hell with the due process? Yes. Got it. Anything with kids.

For me, anything raping, killing, killing, you got to take him to court. Like that, this David case.

Yeah, David, he was a— the hell with it.

The hell with it. Yes. No, what I'm saying is—

but I'm not mad at what you're saying.

Yeah, what I'm saying is about due process. That is the right way to be. Think about this, yo. Media attention, money pays for media attention. The more the media tell us stuff, it could sway your opinion. So again, if a Black person— Central Park Five, my nigga, they put tons and tons and tons of money and media behind convicting these fucking 5 black kids. I'm not— I don't stand on that. And they had quote-unquote— I like that, all of the evidence that—

I like that example though. In the Central Park Five case, if they would have checked that lady's vagina and found 5 black penises, that to me is the equivalent of the David case.

No, I'm not now, but prior to—

for me, he said when the David news initially came out, he didn't have all the evidence, wasn't here yet. He wanted to hear more.

I don't I disagree with that. Have y'all heard the stuff with David Case with like the jokes? Are y'all trying to not talk in the mic? Have y'all heard the jokes? Um, I mean, have y'all heard on the evidence that came out talking about how she would like play with him about serious things?

Have y'all heard? I didn't see that part. Yeah, I've actually stayed away from the story a little bit. I mean, I read the details, but I find it so chilling. It is, you know, it's tough to keep up.

It's tough to read.

Well, speaking, speaking of your stance changing on people. Do you still have your Pablo Torres stance? Because he's still at it with Kawhi Leonard.

I would light them niggas up.

Yeah, I mean, me, yeah. I just think that, um, I don't know, I think that, I think that when you put in your resources behind this, like, have you already found them guilty of whatever you found him guilty of, and they just keep coming up with more and more and more shit. I just don't know what your end goal is. What's your end goal? Your end goal is what, to destroy their life? Because it could potentially have mass effects on his life, and he an athlete playing basketball. And if he get caught cheating, he got caught cheating, whatever the case may be. I just look at it like, um, hmm, what do you gained from this.

So I see it different.

Yeah, I feel like he's going to Ballmer more than Kawhi. That's why this happens to be collateral damage.

Collateral. Yeah, I don't think it's about Kawhi. I don't either. I don't think Kawhi is his target. But also, I think it'll be fucked up if he found other shit Kawhi had done. Like, if he's like, you know what, let me see if this nigga's cheating on his taxes, let me go see if he did— this is the same case. And to your point, I think it's more about the Clippers and Ballmer than it is about Kawhi. Like, Kawhi's not gonna getting any more trouble. They're just unpacking more evidence to show how deep this particular thing goes. I'm okay with that. I mean, at some point it's going to run out of steam anyway. The other thing is there are people like Mark Cuban and other—

getting new cabooses on the end of the train. Every time it runs out of steam, they add more pieces.

But, but not more to Kawhi. I guess that's what I'm saying. So I, I think for me it's also because there's so many powerful people saying this isn't true, like the market came out. It's— I don't think like everyone has accepted that Kawhi did something wrong and Bomer did something wrong or anything like that. I think there's still a lot of people saying it's not true, and so I think he's still making his case in a lot of ways. But that's what it seemed like to me.

Yo, you saying it's not a lot? Like, yo, his, his current contract could be nullified. It's a couple hundred million dollars. They already blocked the trade. Yeah, like we saying it like, oh, this is a slap on the wrist for this man.

No, I didn't say that at all. Got you.

Yeah, yeah. No, I, I think me potentially losing a couple hundred million dollars is significant.

Yeah, I'm, I'm saying the same thing.

But who's to say if he was—

if this contract was to be nullified, I'm sure there's a team that would still pay him probably comparable, if not more, if not more, maybe.

Yeah, depending on what, uh, the league's punishment is. Yeah, that's the word on the Raptors. The Raptors are pausing the trade because we don't know what the punishment is and we don't know that we want to be on the hook for it. But other than that, sans that, yeah, everybody would fucking Pay Kawhi, right?

Yeah, but if they, if they come to the Knicks on the vet minimum, and that's the point, a vet minimum, he will have—

there's a team that would—

I'm just saying, but let's just say the NBA for 2 years, then what? Now that, that tanks his value significantly. He already long in, long in the tooth now. Like, yo, another 2 years of not playing active basketball now devalues you significantly if that happens.

My question to you is is this, and I got— I think I got a good understanding of what you're saying. My question is, so is it, is it your belief across the board that if a job— if you have a job, because Pablo is an investigative reporter or journalist or whatever— if you have a job that in doing such could hurt someone else, you should find a different way to do it? Or is that strictly for Pablo in this situation with investigative journalism?

I think when he came up here, we asked him specific questions. My question always was the, why are you doing this? And his answer was— and then, and, and I think I might have been Ice that said, yo, it's other teams doing it too. And he was like, yeah, they are doing it, but they're not doing it to the level of where they're doing it. And so my point was, how do you know that? Like, nobody would have thought that they was doing it to the level they did it until you did this, all this forensic auditing and all all this other shit to discover it.

So, and I think he said that a baller doing it is different from anybody doing it because he's got all the money. They all have all the money.

We're not gonna sit up here in this podcast where we talk about all this capitalistic shit and argue that this billionaire right here is worth way more money than this billionaire right here.

Well, no, I, I think we're talking about they all are filthy fucking rich at that level. You're right. But I think the question is when we're talking in the context of this game where there's 26 people and some have more power and influence to put the thumb on the scale than others, I do think the difference between $50 billion and $2 billion matters. I don't think in terms of life it does, I think you're right, but in terms of like the game, he's saying Ballmer can do something that the Milwaukee— I'm just saying the Milwaukee Bucks or the Denver Nuggets, whoever, I don't know, their money can't. And I think that's important. Also, by the way, I mean, Kawhi's on year 3 of that 3-year deal. This is the last year. So even if they nullified the contract, it's almost impossible possible, they'd be asking him to give the money back. So another—

they would have to suspend him for a year. They're gonna have to give him a long suspension, find something to do.

Suspending a guy, 30— how old is Kawhi now? 30-something. Yeah, 30-something. At this stage of his career, I mean, he don't play for 30 games a year anyway, right? And he's made all the money. I'm just saying. And he did do it. That's the other thing. I could see it if he was being framed. I mean, he actually did do the thing that, that is breaking the rules. We can't forget that either. There, and the game don't work.

Now, I agree with you, Ish, that he ain't the only one.

He ain't the only one. But let me ask you a question. If Pablo says, you know what, Ish, you're right, I'm now gonna go look at all the other teams in the league and do the exact same thing that I just did to the Clippers, would you then be comfortable with Pablo? No. Why?

Well, yeah, like, yeah, yo, look at the team. I, I guess I just think that Kawhi being, um This is, this is my thing, and this is going to go back to y'all gonna say this is not an excuse. I just think that if all 50 teams are doing it right, for you to single out one team to make an example of them, I just think that that's unfair.

Well, that's what I'm asking. If you were to go to all the teams, would you then be okay with it?

If that's just what he started doing, yeah, I still think he gonna rap. But, but no, but then you you are, you are, you are across the board handling the situation, um, with the same equitable interest, right? So that's cool if that's your job, that's what you're doing. But you doing this over here, it almost looks like somebody paid you to target them. That's what I took. And that was, that's what I said.

I don't think that's what it is. I mean, I can tell you, and again, I've never done this kind of journalism, so I don't have any expertise in this, but I do have colleagues who do. I eat feta cheese. I don't eat this. I report. I've never, I've never investigative work.

That's— you just finished doing investigative work.

No, I'm talking about like an investigative— every interview is investigative at that level. I'm talking about where you do a forensic, like, study of somebody and trace stuff, asking somebody questions. I mean, that, that ain't no investig—

anybody of us could— you do my type of investig— I like your investig—

but, but my point is, um, a lot of times the reason you jump on a particular case is because there's just— there's a huge red flag, you know. There was something so odd about what the Clippers did. And that's what Pablo said, that it made you start sniffing.

Like, it was, it was very— LeBron going to Philly for way less money than could have got other places.

Oh, that should be next on the list.

No, that's after the Brunson deal.

If that looks suspicious to you, legit, then I think we should drill down on it. If— because I think that should be second on the list after Jaylen. Hey, hey, but like, if it looks suspicious, sure. But one little flag, one enough. When you listen to him talk about what the Clippers— I mean, he found that.

Yes, you get what I'm saying?

But that's what I'm saying. You see one thing and then you go, you know what, this don't add up. Wait, why does he have that? Why'd he buy that team? Wait, he named his email that? Oh wait, he bought that interest.

And then he named the LLC that, right? That was—

and then the more you find out, the crazier it gets. You just can't stop looking at it. And I get why part of you does say, well, are the Spurs doing this? Are the Knicks doing this? Are the Sixers doing this? But part of you says, let me keep finding out what the Clippers are doing because this so crazy. It's like a dog with a bone.

Part of it is like, I know you see something so dumb, like, like, I know damn well the LLC is— wait, no, they didn't do this.

No, they didn't. Okay, hold on.

What? Wait, now it's this football— wait, what is that? Y'all, y'all, y'all joking, right? Where the tree farm at? Now y'all joking, right?

Hey, come on. One apple growing in the— yeah, kwaspirescam.llc. Like, yeah, sorry, real, real, look into this KW3.

Yeah, man.

Yeah, no, I mean, good luck to them, I guess.

Good luck to them. Another person we've been talking about, speaking of basketball, is Stephen A. Smith. He issued an apology, uh, this afternoon— or yesterday, excuse me— yesterday, yes, to, uh, to Kyrie Irving.

Uh, can we—

do we play a little bit of the clip? Do we have to?

I'm sorry, yes, please. I think it was mature. I think it was needed. I think it was, uh, him holding himself accountable. I appreciated it.

I hate when you use your grown man voice. It's annoying. I hate it.

That's why you always use yours. It's cool, my nigga. That's a good one.

All right, no more yes now.

Why you got your face— 20 minutes. What you got?

I almost feel like this is like a joke.

Do you want me to play this or no?

Yeah. Okay. Develop in the sand. He wasn't really, really needed. So Kyrie Irving eventually will be back next season, um, and he'll be the superstar guard that we know him to be. A scoring machine, one of the greatest handlers we've ever witnessed, one of the greatest skills in NBA history. But this is not about him the basketball player.

What's up everybody? Yo, turn this shit off. Yeah, I'm not listening to him. I'm not listening to this. I mean, unless I feel like I gotta be played. I'll go pee or something.

No, no, no, it's all good.

I think it's a conversation that we should have.

We can talk about it because I'm— I have thoughts. It felt like as Stephen A is trying to get into, uh, good graces with the right, he's doing this to kind of fall into that, to me. Because what's happening with Fauci right now, I don't know whether he's guilty or not, but he's not responding to anything on testimony. Yeah. Yeah, they not really providing real evidence, back to your evidence point. So why does he have to— he should apologize to, um, to Kyrie. I, I agree with that 100%.

It's just the why now, and that's what I don't like about it.

Weird. Yes, I agree. I feel like a lot of what Stephen A be doing just has these fucking political agendas. One, two, you've already apologized to Kyrie. He did. Oh, he did? Yes. No, he did a bunch of times. A bunch of times he went on TV, he gave the whole speech about the people that, uh, we have some mutual people in common, some of the OGs that raised me, raised Kyrie's dad, and, and they pulled me to the side. Kenny Smith pulled me to the side, said, you know what, you was out of line for how you did that. And, and what my thing about Stephen A, he went in on Kyrie for over a year and a half. For over a year and a half when we were facing a fucking, uh, uh, uh, worldwide, a national pandemic. National, global, international. Yeah, international. I'm sorry, international, global pandemic, right? Where everybody should, should have had the right to decide how they wanted to handle their health. Like, Kyrie, it was— is married. Some of the things he was stating was, we don't know the effects that this will have long term on my baby if we having a baby, or my wife.

And I mean, I'm sorry, but the game of basketball doesn't come first. We don't need to hear from Stephen A. no more about Kyrie. Kyrie, too real of a nigga. You did it. You kicked this back in. You said he wasn't shit. You said, uh, he should put a ring before— is that— you said all of this stuff. So to come back now, all of these years later, with, yo, I owe Kyrie an apology, is performative. It just comes off fake. This shit is whack.

Especially, like I said, coming off— the reason why he did it is because Fauci's on—

yeah, well, there's two reasons. But see, there's the Fauci attack, and then there's the White House releasing the—

Stephen A is my man, but I don't like all that political shit. Yeah.

That's my point. My point bringing it up isn't to celebrate Stephen A.'s apology, is to say there's something else. The North remembers. Yeah. Yes, there's something else afoot here. And it's true, boy. He watching. Look at you. That's Game of Thrones. I never watched it, but I know the reference.

You watching, yo. You watching.

But yeah, it's the Fauci witch hunt which is happening right now. Yeah. Um, and it is the, uh, it is the White House just yesterday releasing report, um, or what they call— they tweeted out like the truth about COVID or something like that. I haven't read it yet. Okay. But it's clearly playing to a certain political base, and it seems very clear that Stephen A is trying to be in conversation. I'm not even talking about whether the report's true or not. I'm just saying Stephen A's timing, yeah, is very, is very convenient. He's not, he's not apologizing to Kyrie for the third time today just because he felt bad today.

He's doing it. You know what my thing is too, in the content space and out I only speak for me. Like, when it's well established that somebody don't fuck with you, like, past just I'm not fucking with you, then it's over. It's over. It's not for you to— that's what I subscribe— bringing their name up. Yeah, it's not for you to— I don't think that Kyrie should be the last name that Stephen A says with how he behaved, uh, during that shit.

He should never want to say Kyrie. So let me ask you, because I'm just— I'm— we just in objective land. The stuff that Fauci has done, even for people that were heavily in support of Fauci, him getting up there pleading the Fifth 77,000 times in a row, all of those things, it turned people and it swayed people. So now if— if— because you might be— you guys might be right, like it could be something he's doing performative to, to appeal to the Republican base. Cool. But let's just say as a Black man to another black man. I got up here publicly and dissed him twice, so I'm not on his team. I'm just saying, let's say he does feel some level of accountability toward how he dragged him, and now he gets on the pro— uh, his platform, the same big platform that he used to shit on him, to apologize to him based on the new discoveries by the CDC and Fauci.

Because I guarantee he didn't call Kyrie.

I don't know. Yeah, but you see, even if he did though, but even if he did, I would still want to apologize. As loud as a disrespect. I know you don't.

I know you don't fuck with that. Yeah, I know you don't. I don't fuck with that at all. And I can almost assure that Kyrie don't fuck with it. Let's pretend that they was having a conversation, Stephen A and Kyrie, and Stephen A said, you know what, man, I want to make the— I want to make the respect as loud. I want to go on my channel.

He would have shut that down.

100% said no.

It still don't stop what Stephen A might feel is appropriate.

All right, personally, for him, it should stop him right there.

Personally, if I— if I shit on you publicly, even if we squash it behind the scenes, because so many people watched me do it. I also want to clear that position up just to say, yo, I was wrong.

Just for a little bit of clarity for the Newark couch, this video is 19 minutes long. The apology comes within the first 30 seconds, and the rest of the video is about the Fauci—

that's my point, unquote.

Yeah, he didn't need to mention Kyrie.

This is the headline to get people in.

I was to come on this podcast and say that that couch smells like shit, and then I called you and I apologized about it, and you said, yo, don't bring— you especially, you say, yo, don't bring that shit back on the podcast, it's just gonna bring it back alive. Demona, this apology means enough to me. If you still go on— if I still go on and make the apology on the podcast knowing that people gonna just bring up the fact that y'all smell like shit again, that's for me, that's not for you. If the apology is for you, then we're gonna leave it right then and there, because I agree. But I think that Kyrie seems like the kind of guy that the apology face to face is what matters to him, not the public one.

And this is some of the same behavior that LeBron pointed out when he stepped to him at that fucking Celtics game. Oh wait, I think that was a Celtics game. He's saying, yo, you know how I rock with you. We don't really jive. You know that because we've spoken about it. The world don't have to know, but you and I know. So for you to continue with this, uh, Bronny James, or whatever the fuck he was saying at the time. LeBron is like, yeah, as a dad now, I'm stepping to you because you know where I stand with you, and you still speaking me and my family's name for what? Kyrie is on that list. Kevin Durant is on that list. Stephen A has compiled a list. There's a list of people. Yeah, dog, you made all your money, you got your contracts, you can now do your job. You got all the shows in the world. You're one of the biggest content creators out there. You can do your job without mentioning these people. You can't.

And, and that's why I say this is a— it comes comes off bad, and it comes off cynical to me. Again, like, there's a bunch of people after the COVID stuff came out, after the Fauci, uh, stuff has happened, and who were, who were running a victory lap, or who were saying we were right, or whatever they're saying, right? Stephen A wants them to know that he's with them, and so this is his way of doing it. This is about triangulating the audience. This is about making money. Yeah, this is, this is clearly— it's so cynical and strategic. It's, it's, it's, it's not surprising, but is this—

and if we own an apology to it, and all right, go apologize to Joy. Like, if you want an apology to her, there are some names that you probably may owe an apology if you just think long enough when you go to sleep at night.

Shit, I tell you, I, I looked at the White House shit and I read some of that. I'm sitting there like, damn, maybe see if I can get this, uh, Moderna out now. They got some so I can go ahead and get this Moderna out a little bit.

What did the report say? I literally didn't read it. I just saw that it came out.

It's been a bunch of shit. This is not new. Nothing is? Okay. It's been a bunch of shit. The CDC's been putting out shit literally for the last year or two talking about, um, the effects of the vaccines. It's okay. See, you, you can get it out, man. How?

I mean, it's a bunch of shit, for real, for real, to get it out, but good old—

you mean out your body? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take that shit back. Some little— get some tok, man.

I'll get you down. Get this nigga a tok.

Get it right. Always back to the tok.

Tok get it right about you. Go right to that trunk downstairs, you be good.

Little nasty, but you know what I mean? Little forehead sweat. You good though. That's slap.

Good show today, y'all. It was good. Good show, good vibes, good energy.

Hope the write-up's good.

NewJersey.com, hold us down, man.

Make us sound better than we are. He's going to do some one-on-ones with each of us privately, so you can leave like the butt cleaning part to like Maybe say it was like a brief conversation about butt cleaning.

I'm gonna ball up and throw a napkin at you when I walk past. Go on.

I got you. It better be a positive write-up. Or else. Or else. I'mma suggest you go fucking sit with Al B. Al. That's a good one.

In the basement. Shout out to Al B.

Al. What are y'all on this weekend? What are y'all on this weekend? Work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work.

I'm out.

I'm on vacation.

Yes, going to Turks.

Hey man, damn, a little quick Turks.

Oh wait, so you going to be back by the next time I come back?

Taking the jet.

So I'll see you? I'm taking a, a, a, a commercial. I don't have jet money.

The fuck? Stumbling, mumbling.

We on to you, nigga.

Oh yeah, he rich, rich. When you back? Rich, rich. Monday.

Quick That's what I need.

Come on down. Listen, Rim was talking to Sade. We were thinking. Oh, were you?

Sure.

Yes, the girls be talking.

Yeah, I know they do. I know.

I love that, by the way. Yeah, no, we was—

Y'all should pop out real quick. Fuck it.

Yeah, no, it's a bad weekend, but good idea. You got the right idea. Freeze, what you on?

I'm going to this gaming tournament at Microsoft over the weekend. Oh, shit. Oh yeah, they invited me too. Yeah, I'll be out there.

You play games?

They invited you because they seen the size of that laptop, right? Oh shit, we got a big screen down here. What you want this weekend? Yeah, that's funny. Work. I'm going to DC. Goddamn.

Mark? Ain't a whole bunch of nothing, uh, family stuff and just trying to rest, recover.

Mona?

I'm meeting with my seamstress to get my dress made for the Drove Extravaganza. I'm not playing, I'm stepping, and I recommend y'all do the same.

Oh, I'm stepping.

Oh no, we stepping. We all stepping.

I'm just trying to figure out how we stepping.

I got—

do y'all know what y'all wearing?

Do you have idea? Hell no. I got—

I mean, black tie is only— yeah, but a couple things you should— you can get freaky with it, but I don't know if I'm going to go free, uh, all the way ice freeze, you know what I mean? Gold jacket. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm excited.

I I wouldn't do that. Hey yo, if you wore that gold shit to Joe Burrow's party. I wouldn't do that. Come on now, have some type of fucking standard with me.

I'm so excited to do my speech.

You know I'm doing a speech at the party.

You said speech?

Yes. You giving a speech? Yes. Oh, I can't wait.

It's gonna be short, like 20, 30 minutes.

How many people you coming with?

20, 30 people, same thing. 2023.

I'm trying to get this nigga in there.

I got to get this money. This nigga's in there, man. I got to show my talents. I might come in that bitch with a thong on. I don't know. Entertainment.

Why do I always think that Tears for Fears sings fucking Know This Much Is True?

Know This Much Is True.

I don't know if I know that song. I know this much is true. True. That's Spado. Who sings that song?

Damn, I don't know. Yeah, it's one hit wonder, must be.

They all look the same.

You got it right. Spandau Ballet. Yeah, right. Spandau Ballet. Spell it for me. S-P-A-N-D-A-U. Oh, there we go, there we go. B-A-L-L-E-T. Yeah.

Oh, rest in peace Kravinsky too, while we're here real quick.

Forgot about that one. I usually rely on Mark to tell me who died. Yeah, Kravinsky's like Electronic music producer.

He did the Drive soundtrack. I don't know if you remember that movie.

I remember Drive.

Yeah, he's got songs with The Weeknd and shit. You've heard him, but you maybe didn't know it was him.

Got it, got it. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Uh, I don't have too much going on this weekend. Uh, my baby went to load her daughter into school. She's in Mississippi. Oh shit. Nah, nah, congratulations. Kill it out there. Congrats. But damn, man, I'm missing so So much, man. Just a Friday night to myself. Oh man, what are you gonna do? Probably got the house to myself.

Yo, you gonna be all right?

No, yeah man, I'll survive. But everything feels different without her, man.

Showering, you got singles, eating. She leave the dog?

See, good man. Go. No, she took the dog with her. No, she left the dog. Oh, okay.

So you gotta still get the bond with the dog.

There you go. That dog act like he don't know who I am when she ain't there. Oh shit. On the side in a whole nother room. Don't, don't talk, don't bark. Yes, that dog is her dog. Yo, I'm totally against rescue dogs, by the way.

I feel like I should say that. Oh, we should—

I am totally against rescue dogs.

Said no person ever. I think you should say that.

I got rescued. He put out his notepad again.

Great.

Yes, if you want a dog, go buy a dog.

Nah, get you a rescue. Don't go—

oh, please, you'll never know.

Cat with 3 legs and no tail.

The dog name used to be Rick. That let me know that the previous owner was beating the dog shit out of him.

How they know what the old name was?

Cuz when she got the rescue dog, they told her. And they changed the name?

My girl changed the name of the dog.

They answering to Rick for 4 years, now y'all gonna call them Marquis?

Oh shit. Oh shit.

What the The fuck I do?

But a rescue dog, there's no way to know the abuse that the previous owner put him through. It's gonna be there for life. Motherfucker.

You ain't stopping. Cut that out. What?

You did. You late. I already did that. Yeah, so I'm against rescue dogs.

It ain't stop us from dating. Oh my God.

Yo, listen. Rescue dick. Rescue dick. Rescue dick to my rescue dog. You rescue dick. Listen, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be. There. Until next time, we bid you adieu, farewell, adios, arrivederci, hasta la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye, or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass, so let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things grab you a Tylenol, you may need it. Uh, we want to thank Big Pat, newjersey.com. We hope that we showed you a great time. We'll read what you have to say later. Uh, to the fans, thank you, thank you, thank you. To Forbes, thank you, thank you. Dick Wolf, thank you, thank you, thank you. Stop playing with them.

Yeah, yeah, listen, man, same time, thank you too.

Again, thank you. Nothing is possible Nothing is possible without the fans. Facts. Nothing is possible without y'all. Same time, same place next week. Y'all hold it down. Remember, the goal is to get home. That's facts. The goal is to get home to your family. The weather is hot, the streets are hotter. Head on a swivel at all times. And that's all I got for y'all, man. Y'all hold it down. Let the saxophone take us outta here. Yeah, you know what we're here for. Give me that hook.

I bought a ticket to the wayward world, but now I've come back again.

Why do I find it hard to write I'm sorry, I feel like it's sacrilegious almost to cut it off before you get into it. This much is true, whoo! This much is true, whoo! Hey, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute now. This much is true. Hey, there we go.

Wait a minute. Ow.

I could tell who didn't have a car radio. I could tell who didn't have Light FM on in the car. Don't worry, bad job. Kitchen job. Stock boy at Walgreens, 6 in the morning. Hey, same time, same place next week, y'all. Hold it down, man. Take it from number 15. On the list. The bottom 100 coming soon. Pause.

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