Transcript of Episode 971 | "Off The Clock Cuck" New

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart, or our own. Enjoy the show. I ain't gonna lie, we starting off out being nostalgic and being old. We talking about, we talking about driving to the mall. Imani said, wanted some— what, some kid, you know, I forgot who we was talking about.

Getting a ride.

Exactly.

I was on the side. Taking the bus.

My niece. Your niece. He said his niece, uh, wanna get a license so she could drive.

Nah, she's got a permit.

She's got a permit.

So she could drive to the mall. I'm like, this ain't the '90s. These kids ain't driving to the mall no more. Yeah, exactly right. The mall.

Tell him anything, right?

Yo, some of the things we did back then, they still doing. They still want to go, go to the mall, walk around, link around, walk, window shop.

Imani, New Jersey is the only place with malls.

Still.

I mean, ain't too many malls left.

New Jersey's the only place with malls.

We got a shit ton of malls.

There's like strip malls still, but not like mall malls as much as there used to be.

Mall, they shutting down. They shut down malls.

Sidebar.

Them kids is hooking up. I'm not saying your niece, but just kids in general, they be hooking up.

Oh no, no, kids don't.

That is sad as fuck that we're losing the whole mall culture thing. Being in the mall, hanging in the mall, eating snacks in the mall, eating your dinner in the mall, pulling your first bitch in the mall. Like, all that history.

Oh, that's what I'm saying. I was that dude in the mall days.

The mall was the shit.

The mall was the shit.

And it had nothing to do with buying anything.

You just went together.

No, you ain't had no money.

Yeah, maybe a CD. You would buy a CD.

And the you got a pen days. Oh, no, you ain't gotta miss it. Yo, stay right here. Write it on my hand.

Stay right here.

Don't move.

Let me go running Rainbow Express somewhere, get a little pen, get some eyeliner.

Yeah.

Then you get home, one of the numbers all smudged. Now you gotta guess. You gotta— I was guessing.

Yeah, every 9 chances, right?

Every combination.

It's gonna be one. Yeah. In them days, when you calling up a mother or a dad, somebody answer the phone. Like, you gotta put on—

you got—

that's the first code switch, you know.

That's a fact.

Oh, getting that busy signal.

I'm about to say the house phone.

Oh, the busy signal.

Yeah.

Oh, the good old days.

Back in the day.

We've seen a lot of shit to only be 45, 47.

It's a whole different fucking world we live in.

It's a whole different world.

Yo, they keep showing— they was showing the, the, the— what did they put out? New footage from when 9/11 happened. That shit looked like it was in the '60s, for real.

The quality, right?

Yeah, videotape. The firefighters, the shit was bad. The fucking football field.

footage from back in the days looks crazy. From like the early 2000s.

Yeah.

That shit look grainy as hell.

Yeah.

High def.

Word.

All that shit look bad.

Mm-mm-mm. Yo, you good? I seen you had to run off set at the very beginning of our show.

That was dope though.

My alarm went off.

It's time to wake up.

You had to leave set 'cause your alarm went off?

Wait a minute, your alarm? What alarm?

He set it off.

That's his wake-up alarm. It's noon.

It's noon.

What do you gotta do at noon that you get an alarm off?

You gotta tell niggas to be outside. Right.

Get out her house.

He has to tell niggas to be outside.

Her husband come home at 1.

Nah, that's my, um, if I am still in bed, that's my yo, it's time to get up.

I was really an in-bed alarm.

I was trying to say, if y'all said it too, it's vice versa.

I'm jealous.

And listen, it's only—

No, not—

no, mute up for a second. Like, sometimes you say things so profound, then the room keeps talking, so we don't get to acknowledge it.

When was the last time y'all woke up at noon?

Ah, shit.

He said— what did he just say to us?

That's his get out of bed if you're still in bed alarm.

He says when he wakes up at noon, he has that alarm just in case, 'cause he doesn't wanna sleep till 1. That's fucking barbaric.

But first off, it's only for Tuesdays and Fridays because of the pod, right? Typically, I'm usually outside.

It don't matter.

Usually I'm outside those days, and I don't go to sleep till about 3 or 4 in the morning. So it's normal for me to maybe sleep past 10 o'clock.

Damn, so you getting your 7—

you gotta get 7 to 8.

Regardless of when he lay down.

Yeah.

If he laying there at 6, he getting up at 10.

I'm not trying to walk in here and be all grumpy and tired.

So you getting it. So you are getting what you deserve. Like, you getting a fair shake. You got a fair hand at this life shit.

You're not like being treated unfairly.

Nah, I got this shit figured out.

No, he's killing it.

Y'all should figure it out.

Everybody figure out what works for them.

That's true.

That works for me. When was the last time y'all got up at noon?

It's been a long shot.

I don't know.

Even on vacation, I don't get up at noon.

I got kids, nigga. If I get up at noon, somebody— my family's doing a wellness check.

Yeah.

Y'all don't wake up and still just lay in the bed?

That's not the same thing.

So like 6, 7?

Word.

Yeah, I gotta get up.

You go to sleep at late hours as well.

Yeah, but I just can't sleep till noon.

Unless I was up till like 6 AM or something egregious.

Like, are you a truck driver? Like, then I totally understand, like, if you keep an odd schedule.

But I mean, I used to be there once upon a time, but it's been a long fucking time.

Nah, if I'm up all night, I'm still getting up early.

Why?

Yeah, me too, usually.

But why we up all night, hungover and all? I guess that's what I'm asking.

Insomnia. A lot of people— I have insomnia. So for me, it's hard to go to the car.

Throw a condition on it.

Yeah, no, we got it.

Throw a condition on it.

Yeah, for real.

That's peace.

Put a little condition on it.

Can't say shit about a condition.

That's ADHD, bang.

Anxiety, bang. Joker on your ass.

Insomnia, bang.

I woke up at 4 in the morning, made some coffee. Grabbed my favorite hoodie, just went outside and just looked, chill. Yeah, listen to music, look at the world. Yeah, yeah, watch, watch the news, see what I missed.

What time you went to bed?

Who knows?

See, I'm gonna wake up to say I went out last night and I rarely go. I was in New York just hanging out with some friends and I think I got home at like 1 or 2, still up at 6:30.

Yeah, yeah, same.

And that's like late.

I wake up at 8 or 9, but yeah, I'm with you.

Yeah, if I didn't have a son If he didn't come down the steps, I probably could have slept to 7:30, 8:00. But still, like, my body won't let me sleep past that. That's peace.

I feel bad for y'all.

Life is great.

Yeah, that's— I mean, oh, you, you got it reversed. You def— you definitely have it reversed on this one.

I don't, right?

You think being in the bed don't mean I'm asleep?

Imani, being in the bed could mean— Imani, you could bring all the Mop and Glow.

So you know what you up—

you could bring all the Fabuloso, whatever you got to use to clean this shit up. Now he in the bed, right? Pondering facts there.

Being productive. Being productive.

Pulling that shit in bed.

He on the laptop.

Being here today on time should show you that the alarm is not what's really getting me out of bed.

Talk your shit. Talk your shit.

Y'all pissing them off.

Thank you for coming.

You hit me.

Boy, you don't be tardy.

One thing you be is on— you be early, actually. You don't just be on time. You be early.

All right?

I respect that.

That's one of the things I respect about you most. And I respect a lot of things about you, but that's a big thing.

He is super professional. He is. I appreciate it. I appreciated that.

It's peace.

When I got the ish text this morning.

Oh, this wasn't a scheduled day off?

Nah, nah, nah.

Mental health day?

He did tell you he's gonna get the mental health day. He said it Tuesday.

Oh yeah, that whole convo. Oh, he took your heart.

He tell me the mental health day Friday.

Was it Patreon convo?

No, no, no.

Main episode.

Oh, the mental health shit.

Yeah.

He didn't say we both would need one the same day. No, it's fine. Shout out to my brother Ish, man. He's not here. Something, something about a flight. I don't know. A beach.

A beach.

He's stuck in Turks.

I think the child project might be— oh yeah, they're about to break ground.

Almost finished.

They almost did. They almost finished the line right now.

It's almost time for the ribbon cutting.

But no, don't do that because then I'll get mad because that would, that would mean that he's in DC.

Ah.

And said something about the flight.

He flies from DC though. You know that's where he flies from. You know he flies. He takes the shuttle every time, almost every time. He only does the train when the flights—

See, that's why I love this room. They'll see something triggering you and dive right in. You gotta find a condition. You gotta find a condition. I'm not paying. Yo, I got insomnia.

Oh man.

All right, who's ready to have some fun?

Yes sir.

Everybody.

I think we all are.

Wait, Bob.

You look lovely today, Mona.

Thank you so much, Brian.

Fuck you.

Oh my God, they trampled over it.

Yeah, it's fine. That's what we usually do with compliments.

I like the fall colors, yo. That's fresh. And the hair too.

Thank you so much.

You look great.

I pulled out my fall wig.

There you go.

Nice.

It don't even look like a wig.

It looks natural. I thought that was you.

I did too.

Nigga.

It's giving face.

Leave it to a nigga to fuck it up. The front will be all right there, the net. That don't even look like a net glued on your face.

That looks good.

That doesn't look like glue.

Yeah, you got a little old school Ain't she giving Faith Evans vibes?

Nah, she looking like, it's been 2 sleepless nights, 3 lonely days since I last saw you. You didn't appreciate my life. Like, morifa.

Oh shit.

Morifa? Morifa is crazy. Oh shit. Morifa.

That was almost—

I tried.

You looking good.

We fucking with it though.

You look good.

You look good. We fucking with it.

Did it get me?

You can say, Morifa, I remember Georgie Porgie.

That's fucked up.

Them your brothers?

Y'all could just give a compliment to me.

That's crazy, yo. Supposed to be.

Hell, man, y'all stupid, yo.

Y'all are absolutely crazy.

Morifa, you look like you should be—

Listen, wrap it up. Wrap it the fuck up, man.

Too many, right?

I'm telling you. Too many now.

Wrap that shit up, boy.

Wrap it up, man.

I'm done. I'm done.

You gonna get niggas back too.

Round 2.

Round 2. So I'm done.

Round 2.

Man.

Oh, okay. Yo, so dumb, yo. You lucky I couldn't remember how that brownstone song— Oh.

Okay. I'm wishing, boy, I got my eyes on you. It's mystery, it's thrilling.

I'm not sure just what to do.

Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2.

This is so insane. It's no more ice to me.

Touching.

Big Jerky, big Jerky.

Whole New York City, what up out there? What you gonna do with my lovely? Please don't make me all by myself. What you gonna do with my lovely?

Oh, wait for the ladies. Oh, wait for the ladies.

Shout out to the subgroups out there. Shout out to the Patronis out there. Shout out to the first and last time listeners out there. Shout out to the hate listeners out there. Shout out to wherever you might be listening from. Everybody on their way to work. Everybody on their way taking them badass kids to school. Everybody on their way home. No matter where you at, man, what's popping? What's popping though? Y'all better enjoy this little heat wave.

Hey!

You too young, you too young. Come on, come on, you know I'm too young, man. No, no, I'm playing with you, I'm playing with you, I'm playing with you. I ain't gonna play anything like that.

If you think I'm here to play around with y'all, goddamn it, I'm not.

Yo, shout out to all the pregnant people out there, man. It's a lot of y'all.

I didn't do. I am not sorry for the things I did do.

This remind me of Skate Key, man.

Yo, shout out to Skate Key, man.

No joke button.

Shout out to Breads Book and all that.

Uh, uh, uh, uh, enough of that, D.

40 and up out there, 50 and up out there, shout out to the parents. Hey, shout out to the young hoes that just know good music, shout out to y'all.

Here we go. Yo, what we starting with?

I ain't even ask y'all that.

Y'all will figure it out.

Let me know.

I'm on it.

Hey, hey.

Yeah, I need all this at my baby shower, man. I might DJ my baby shower, man. I might open up.

All right, let's get to it, let's get to it out there.

Okay, that's what they was playing when we was in Cabo for the New Year's Eve shit.

You know what I mean?

Ain't mad at it.

They played this, a little bit of OPP, huh? Some Nelly hot in here.

New Year's right around the corner too.

How you know we old? We was there when this first came out.

first dropped.

Yeah, all this shit feel like— it's like, yo, why do the '90s and the 2000s feel like the '60s and '70s to me?

Oh, it is now.

The kids now, that shit's like the '50s.

Oh no, the kids, the '90s is like what the '60s was to us.

For real. Yes.

Kids looking at us like, you was born in the 1900s?

You was born in the 1900s is what they—

yeah, they disrespectful.

Crazy. All right, man, we so, so glad y'all are tuning in, man.

Let's get right to it. Let's get right to it.

Hey.

You're icy.

Oops. Who is that?

Who is that?

It's Mark Lamont Hill, pussy, pussy, pussy.

And Mona and Imani. And Imani.

And Imani. That's right.

What episode is this?

971.

Welcome to episode 971 of the Joe Budden Podcast, brought to you by, fueled by, powered by Prize Piece. Prize Piece gang, yeah. I am your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here, The show's— we on.

Hey guys.

We waiting for you. Oh shit, what the fuck?

Um, what was I saying just now?

Oh, it's us. We're here. Hi you guys, I'm Joe Budden. Next to me is my— she's so happy to be here. Look at my girl.

Thrilled.

Philadelphia's finest, Big Demona. Don't call her white girl. Mona is in the building. Mona, how you doing?

Hello, hello, I'm doing amazing. Thanks for asking.

Good.

Doing your ASMR intro, I like it.

Absolutely love it.

Thank you so much.

You look great.

Thank you, I really appreciate that.

Look cozy. Next to her, uh, our good brother Dr. Marc Lamont Hill in the building.

Marc, what's good with you?

Peace, peace, man. Long, long, long week, man, but, uh, all good. No complaints, man.

All right, good. How's the books coming along?

Books, everything's good, man. My bookstore is moving. Uh, my actual books, the book that I got coming out is called, uh, Schooling Against the Prison. So if you're out there, pick up Schooling Against the Prison. Drops November 17th, but you can pre-order it now wherever books are sold. But especially especially independent Black stores.

Okay.

All right, you ruin it.

Yeah.

Okay.

You can't do that.

The fuck was it?

What was that?

The whole literacy thing?

Oh shit.

Oh shit.

It's you selling your ass thing.

That everything. Every day.

Every day.

Uh, next to him, Parkchester's finest, AEOE's finest.

Right.

What?

I'll just be forgetting where he from.

Me too.

They from a couple different places.

Is that the name of the AEOE?

Well, not the podcast. We changing the podcast name.

Oh wait, that's not the name?

Oh shit, we doing a rebrand. Uh, on the 50th episode.

To what?

I can't tell you.

The Imani Podcast.

All eyes on us.

No.

AEOE sound like a frat.

I know, that's why we changing it.

Yeah.

Oh, you don't like that connotation?

Oh, Sayo asked for that accountant.

What happened?

Sayo pulled a move.

And I, and I let her look at the books.

Oh, okay. Hey, good. Excel sheet, huh?

One sheet.

Y'all split that up real quick. One text number. Hey, how you doing?

Good, good. Energetic. Got some sleep.

Good, good. I feel like I'm seeing a lot of you lately.

I like it.

Um, I, I think that's a good thing.

I think it's a great thing, man. I always love when you're here.

Yeah, yeah.

I, I like coming up earlier, talking You moving on up in the company.

Yeah, man, you know, I see big things for you.

See, look, they, they such jerks. Everybody is a jerk, man.

We are happy about your promotion.

Yeah, uh-huh.

Let's not say that just yet.

Yeah, because the P word come with a cha-ching, baby.

You hear me?

Anyway, Ice is here, you guys.

Ice is here.

Big Free, Big Free, Big Free. Yeah, they fucked it up. They got me in a bad mood now. I'm here, I'm here. Big Freeze is here. How you doing, Freeze?

I'm great, man. I'm great. Absolutely great.

Good. We love that. Elmira's finest, Big Parks, is in the building.

What's popping?

What's popping? Always here. Corey is here. Our Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you beautiful people out there are here. How's everybody doing?

Amazing.

Amazing.

I'm great.

Are your kids off school?

No.

Monday, Monday they're off.

Mine off today and Monday. I don't know how they got—

how the fuck they get—

they just be making shit up. Oh, it's Teacher Appreciation Day.

Oh, fuck.

Oh, we do appreciate the teachers.

Well, mine have a half day every Friday for the whole school year.

Wait, what?

Oh, fuck that.

You supposed to take them out in September. You supposed to shut that down. You signed it up. As soon as they sit in and sign, like, you supposed to say, it don't matter, get your boot back on, let's go. That's a real school.

What kind of special school is that?

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Not special like that.

I'm saying like, what's the—

why do we have to be That's just what they do.

Every Friday.

That's why good stepdads is important. Somebody to come step in.

City take.

They ain't get missing? Every Friday.

Every Friday.

I'm here every Friday, so that mean it ain't my problem.

Oh shit.

There you go.

So just letting you know, my son will be here next week.

Yeah, right.

Really? You deadass?

Yeah, I'm giving y'all a week notice.

The whole week? That's not really a week.

I mean, just next Friday.

Oh, next Friday.

Next Friday. He said next week.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I apologize. Next Friday. Next Tuesday, I think I got something for him, but next Friday.

That's okay. My mental health day.

First of all, you know, at the end of the day, we're all parents here, most of us, right? So it's like we understand emergencies, parental emergencies, but it's a certain caliber of kid that can't do that. You know what I mean? Like every kid can't come to the Take Your Kid to Work Day. For instance, you see the clip of that little nigga cussing the police out?

Yes.

After he popped the student.

After he shot the teacher.

That nigga can't come to work on Take Your Kid to Work Day.

No, he can't.

My nephew though, Papacito, Lil Tito, he's not the take your kid. I don't wanna be the bearer of brand new—

I'm putting him back there with Ericsson.

I was drawing a straight line.

Oh shit, Ericsson's gonna love that.

I walked up the first day, the first day I walked up and I greeted him, I think he growled at me.

At me.

He ain't speak. I think he's like, get back, in Spanish though. Chihuahua. That nigga ain't friendly, man. He not— he cute and then he not friendly. It's a mismatch, cuz you want to go up and say, oh, no, no, no, no, no.

He—

and Mark think he could just say some Arabic shit afterwards and that cleans it up. Mark think he— no, nigga, we— whatever he said. I don't know what he be saying. I just know it sound ill when you start talking to your kids in another language.

It don't work It's fly.

I don't think— I don't know if it works.

It don't work.

It clearly don't work. Mark, enough.

They enough.

I'm not jumping on them. Whatever Mark doing at home, we doing it at home.

The only reason why this is funny is because nobody's kidding around. This nigga has a lot of energy. You know, he feel like a man, man. If I'm telling you, feel like there's a man in here disgruntled.

How do you tell your friend that? Don't bring this nigga to the barbecue or the job.

I, I don't know.

Oh, I know he's on the ban list. That's why I'm— it was either that or me not coming.

We don't want him at the Q, Mark.

We don't want him at the Q. There's another— there's a plan B.

Damn, that's a hard decision.

Yeah, he'll be back there with Erickson. They'll, they'll do their thing. Wait, is Erickson leaving now? Erickson taking— door open.

He taking a day off.

They cannot handle that boy. That boy needs people that know how to put people in restraints.

Erickson, I'm telling you, might as well go ahead and download, uh, Roblox. Oh shit, go ahead and download it, right? We gonna keep him busy. No way, no way, no way, no way, no way, no way.

We can't. It's an empty box.

It's no way that can stay in. It's no way. There's no way, Parks. There's no way. There's no way we could do that.

Fortnite or something.

I promise we cannot do that. I promise, Parks.

I'm telling y'all, Mark is fucked up. I just want to say on the record, Mark is fucked up.

No, he's not. And I ain't even here.

You don't gotta fall into it.

Yeah, you can just let it go.

No, that was funny.

Back to your question. How do you tell your friend that we don't want their kid at none of our events ever for the rest of the time?

You tell that friend that it's a no kids allowed event.

So when he comes and it's a clown there and everybody else's kids, he'll put it together.

Last minute change.

Making balloons.

Listen, everybody That kid ain't friendly, man.

Oh, man. Well, it's good to see all you guys.

Yeah. Yeah, same here.

Glad everybody's in a good mood. Great to see you, bro. Looking good, smelling good, in good spirits. I appreciate that. Okay, Dylan Harper's found himself in quite the mess.

What the hell happened?

So a woman comes up to, uh—

Dylan Harper.

Actually, before you even say what happened, And I can't wait to hear what you say. The woman-to-woman shit, come on, can we have like a guys' meeting about it?

Yeah, Mona.

Can we have like a crew meeting about it for real? Like the woman-to-woman thing?

What's the—

Like as faithful men.

What's— all right, that's peace. What's the, uh, what's the meeting we need to have in regards to it?

It just does more damage. It does more damage than it does anything else.

And they don't usually get the intended Objectively.

The result.

Why the fuck do y'all do that?

I think the success rate of women to women is—

20% tops.

Yeah, tops.

Yeah.

It's never good intentions.

It's not as effective as they think it is.

Like, is that toxic to say? You thought you was gonna go to her as a woman and then she was gonna what, leave the dude and the dude would go with you?

There's another little meme that's floating around right now that people were having fun with. It was a woman coming to another one and was in a text and this lady posted it. Who cares if it's real or not? I'm just saying the premise of it, right? Right. And she was like, yo, I just want you to know your man is cheating. And the girl hit back and was like, well, I want— thank you for that. I want you to know that he's paying for my lipo right now and my car and my truck. He's building me a house. So don't tell me whatever you're trying to tell me, but later I'll come back after all these things are paid for. I'll come back and we can have a chat.

That's a very specific type of situation, that's usually when people are up. Now, if you just talking about cheating, period—

Yo, it's people that— nah, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. It's people that's down that's taking care of they chick.

Yeah, cool. But I think—

They ain't gotta be all the way up.

Or it's not even like a financial take care of. They could just be in a happy fucking relationship, man.

Yeah, I'm good over here.

I don't wanna hear that shit.

But anyway, I don't wanna start being toxic.

This feels like less woman to woman. It's more like she went to dude She went to Dylan kind of like, yo, my boyfriend is sleeping with your girlfriend.

Oh, so she went woman to nigga?

Kinda, yeah.

She trying to get the nigga.

Yeah.

I'm gonna keep it real.

Sometimes when that happens, they end up fucking. That's, that's the result.

Well, well, well, well, well.

I mean, sometimes that's the proper getback, right?

Because the rumors have been circulating for a long time that Dylan and his girlfriend have been cheating on each other.

Okay.

So you've heard rumors about each, but in this case, the girl's like, yo, your girl is definitely cheating on you.

Yeah, she went with text messages.

And she got the text message screenshots. She's sending shit that we don't know if it's true or not.

Right.

And in fact, dude said, yo, I don't know that girl.

Right. He held it down. He held it down real good.

Or it's true, 'cause they found whole screenshots of him wearing Spurs jerseys. They showed him wearing Dillon Harper's jersey.

Oh, shit.

Which could mean that he's a fan and it's innocent, or he could be the worst person ever.

They just went to the photos, man.

Or just doing what he does. wanted to do at the moment.

That's true. Free will.

Free will.

What was Dylan Harper supposed to do?

He's supposed to leave his girl?

Well, the world was saying— and by the world, I mean the internet, of course— was saying, you need to leave her, right? Because you— she make you look crazy out here, right? And he felt differently for whatever reason, either because it's not true or because it is true and he don't care, or he doesn't want to leave.

So he leave her. and now you gotta go find another girl that do whatever she was doing the way she was doing it, but might not do it that way. Would it be happy?

That part.

Yo, cheating really isn't as much as a deal breaker as niggas wanna—

It depends on the relationship.

No, it don't.

Niggas have to stick around for some cheating. No, it don't.

That is a woman myth. I'm trying not to sound too toxic, It's hard. It's hard.

Starting off with pretty toxic shit.

Starting off with toxic.

We right there.

We gotta go.

Be yourself.

There's a couple lessons.

Just be yourself.

These are lessons you learn as a kid, you gotta unlearn as an adult, right? First, remember as a kid, I'm like, I don't eat pussy. And you realize everybody was eating pussy.

Yeah.

Another one was, when people cheat, people leave. And when you get older, you realize most people don't fucking go nowhere.

It's true.

They just don't. It's true.

But being told on, it might not have the effect in the short term. But somewhere down the line, it does play into maybe why the relationship ends.

Maybe.

So, it might not happen at that moment, but it'll linger on. It'll be something that'll stick there and you'll always run back to it and it could end the relationship.

But you got to remember, it's been rumors that they both been on bullshit.

Right.

So, they might not care.

So, they might happily be talking. Well, that's the thing about when the texts were released. In the text, it shows his girl inviting the dude that she's cheating with over to his house. Like, and the dude is kind of holding it down. Like, nah, y'all got a dog over there. I'll read the text. I'll read the text.

Y'all got a dog over there.

Y'all got a dog, I'm not fucking you. Hold on.

I don't fuck with gender.

I'm allergic.

Y'all got a dog over there is so fucking random.

No, it's—

It says, when you wanna see me? She says, definitely when Dylan leaves for a game, I'll let you know. Are you gonna drive? He says, yeah, I'm gonna drive down there, but I'm gonna get a hotel. I ain't trying to be with that damn Rottweiler.

Oh yeah, nah.

She says, what, what? He's nice, he's not gonna do anything to you. He says, shit, I don't know about all that. That motherfucker got teeth. I'm good, I'll be, uh, but I'll be there for sure. We didn't get, uh, we didn't get to do too much last time. And she says, yeah, because you were scary. And he says, no, I was trying to be respectful and shit. So that's the part of the text that took off.

Oh, she sound nasty.

She, she wildin'.

What?

I don't know. What if they don't care?

What if they have like a little bit of fun? an open situation.

That's him speaking to Dylan being— the Dylan part that he mentioned doesn't speak to him being the most open. It don't speak to Dylan being open with this.

It's because they're trying to hide that.

It sounds like they're trying to hide it.

No, not necessarily. If you're in an open relationship, maybe under certain circumstances it's a don't ask, don't tell policy.

Yeah, and you're famous, so you really don't want the attention because you always— you're gonna look crazy no matter what because no one wants to hear about open when you get caught.

Yeah, there's no for me to not sound toxic during this time, because even open relationship to me sounds funny when we talking about 22-year-olds.

They ain't doing that.

That's a great point.

These people are kids.

Yeah, they not that—

I mean, that might be a better time for them.

Today, I don't know about that. I think it's different than when we was 22.

Facts.

Today they wilding the fuck out young. They with all of that shit.

They're not even necessarily wilding, it's open—

maybe not wilding, but they're more aggressive. than we were.

Yo, let's not do that thing we always do where we add some shit that they didn't say.

We don't know.

Her reply to this wasn't, yo, he knows about it, he's cool with it.

Her reply was on some sneaky shit. Yo, yo, you come, like, and it says he's been to the crib before.

That's what it gave, that he had been to the crib.

He'd been there before, he was uncomfortable at the crib.

Right.

And he say because of the dog, which to me, that's just the ultimate, fuck the cheat, that's the violation.

So then she keeps going, she start posting on the black screen. Since this girl keep texting my man and her slow-ass boyfriend keep staying with her trifling cheating ass, ass. Now everybody getting exposed.

She is so corny for wanting— for her expecting them to break up. Like, bitch, how you gonna be mad because somebody didn't react the way you wanted them to?

So you are down with her? You down with me?

I have to hide it because they'll call me male censored. Just keep going.

Yeah, she says here, I mean, should I keep going? This shit is weird. They've been fucking with each other since February and Dylan isn't doing anything about Like, why the fuck you keep supporting a cheating-ass hoe? They be on FaceTime together and everything. Y'all are weird. I don't want to be associated with none of y'all. Just disgusting.

You know what you do?

You sound like a little kid.

If you ain't want to be associated, leave.

Walk away.

Walk away.

Shut the fuck up.

That's the thing.

Because that's the thing. She don't really want to walk away, so everybody got to lose everything. She want to burn that motherfucker down. We got to burn it down.

Yo, you know what you should have did?

You should have offered Dylan some ass. That's how you get back.

I mean, that's not offered though.

That feels like the next step anyway.

You should, yo, listen, they doing this.

That's the next step after your ass, Mark.

No, I'm saying that's, yes, yes, that is the natural progression. Not that you offer your ass, but that— Some get back.

Yeah.

2 people getting cheated on at the same time, they often end up fucking, yes. That's like kind of how it goes.

Trauma bonding. Trauma bonding, sure.

I never understood getting back at your mate through your pussy. You know what I mean?

Oh, you gotta try it.

And you know what's crazy about it? Because it's like, women to get cheated on, then they go on this tour of fucking, and that cat all beat the fuck up roast beef. Who really took the lesson here? Your cat that's all beat the fuck up now, huh?

Who did you teach something to?

How much did you learn?

You're hurt.

Did you learn a lot?

If you look at E-Man in the eyes for too long, you'll end up selling pussy for him.

That girl that's mad at her dude though, that girl that's mad at her dude on her revenge tour, Niggas had fun with her.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

I don't want that.

I'm not trying to get back at you.

Oh, but we want that. Okay.

But I don't want this neither.

Man, not me. Why would you want this?

Why would you want to put your business out there? Everybody in this situation looks like they're doing them. You now look like the clown. You want everyone else to look at everyone else like the clown. You look clownish.

She looks sorry.

You could have just been quiet, left the nigga. Yo, I put the person on. They ain't want to do nothing about it.

Cool.

I'm stepping away.

That's the young people shit too, because you When you 22, you think it look one way and it really look a different way. Like, you think you playing everybody, but you actually the one looking crazy.

That ain't just young people shit, Mark.

That's true, that's true, that's true. And you just, you, you assuming how somebody will respond. So when they don't respond the way you want them to, now you having a fucking fit.

That's why you sound like a baby.

You having a tantrum.

Yo, yo, I—

Fucking rat bitch.

That's that nigga going to another nigga's crib to hit— and we talked about this before, Just hitting somebody else in your crib that you live with another nigga is disrespectful.

I don't give a fuck what the situation is.

Facts.

That's devious. They on some bullshit.

Mm-hmm. That's y'all that had that talk. You know, I don't go to nobody house. Never went to nobody house. That wasn't my bag.

I'm never walking into a nigga's crib to go knock his shorty off.

I've done it, but I ain't proud of it.

I'm the least agile nigga.

I'm out of there though.

Nigga's decision-making, boy.

Can't even climb out the window, right?

I'm out of there.

Still here. I ain't think you can run down the step fast enough to evade someone. He's getting caught in that house.

Oh, he didn't.

Oh my God, he didn't. I gotta see what her man looks like. Ice was over there as the nigga. Her man must have been fucking—

Bitch.

Her man was fucking—

Fucking atrocious.

Oh, don't do that.

Don't do that.

I'm talking about some healthy shit. Let Joe get his shit off.

Let him get his shit off.

Mona, what you said?

You said you—

I was thinking like, have I ever fucked in somebody's, like a woman's house? Another woman's house? I don't think I've ever done that.

Probably not on purpose, but you—

Right, but I'm saying, yeah, but I don't know.

But you fucked— You know niggas do ill shit too. Like she be away for the weekend.

Because most niggas are homeless. Exactly. Anyway, what you saying?

You fucked a—

a female's man before though, right?

Yeah, for sure, for sure. Get down like that in my younger days, you know what I mean?

You backslid back in the day?

I was a side bitch so long I'll be quiet when anybody phone ring, you know what I mean? Yeah, man, back in my day.

Y'all ever— did you ever fuck somebody that was married? You or Imani?

Yo, have I fucked somebody's husband? Yes. I have I fucked someone's wife.

I'm not proud of that.

And I'm not proud of that either.

Yeah, I ain't with that shit. Also, for real shit, I'm not even joking, I'm not with that shit. Like, I'm really not. And I feel like when I did, I found out after. Like, I didn't know. Like, I knew he had somebody. I knew it was his wife.

Oh no, I knew they was married.

I bet you did.

You nasty.

Yeah.

I'll be honest, I ain't like how that felt.

It felt bad to you?

Yeah.

He's a cool guy.

Is it?

Whoa!

He's a cool guy.

You know him?

I didn't know that. Yeah, it's a long story, y'all.

We got time. Yeah, yeah, we early.

Hey, Mimi, can I ask you one thing now?

Piece of shit.

'Cause I think I know you that well. What makes you feel bad about it is the fact of, a part of that is 'cause you wanna be married one day and you don't want nobody hitting your wife.

Oh no, that's not why.

Oh, well then why?

That's not why. Just seeing how desperate the person was to not even, they're not really doing it just to link with me, they really doing it to get back at her.

at the person.

Okay.

And knowing that I'm being used in that type of way made me feel cheap.

You're flashy.

Made me feel a little—

yeah. You've been cheap before?

Can I get expensive, nigga? I don't wanna be cheap my whole—

yeah.

Damn, can a nigga have some style?

And you probably didn't even recognize that until after the deal was done.

Yeah.

So how did it feel before then? Before you knew that you were being used and controlled?

Sometimes you need things to happen to awaken your consciousness to something taking place.

Yeah, that usually helps.

That clears things up. The clarity.

Sometimes you need something to kick in and be like, you know, I'm, I'm—

but, but before you realized you were a tool, you think you were chilling?

I was, I was good.

He was just being a tool. Hammer don't think about being a hammer.

You just am.

You just am. That's it, man. Has anybody else here done that?

I have.

Fucked a married person?

No.

Uh, not Fuck.

Hooked up with—

yeah, same.

What does that mean?

What does that mean? We finger banged. We hooked up.

Yeah, it's the same thing.

Hook up means everything to white people.

Yeah, not fucking, not vaginal penetration.

I heard that.

But Parks, I heard that butt fucking count as hooking up. I heard putting in your ass count as hooking up and not fucking.

I think in Utah.

Okay.

Okay, okay, definitely in Arizona.

So Parks has done this, Freeze, you've done this too?

I've done— I was actually in, uh, you were inside?

You was a unicorn?

No, no, they were open, so her dude knew that we was fucking.

You was a unicorn?

No, no, I wasn't with them. It was just her. It was just a me and her thing.

Oh, okay.

So y'all took—

you ain't never took turns or nothing?

No, no, no, I never even met the dude.

Scared to whip out in front of dude. Look at you. Hey, Scared to bust, scared to do the deed in front of homeboy sitting in the corner.

I ain't with that shit.

That's weird. I've been offered that situation before. What?

You've been offered?

To be, yes.

On some cuck shit? Yes.

But to be the, what is it called?

The cuck.

You gonna be the hammer.

Yo, y'all get too loose out there with that cuck word too, by the way.

They don't know what it means.

They using cuck like narcissists now.

I checked my timeline, man. Y'all have no idea how to use this word.

Yeah, and I've been stumped all week, and now it's like, hounds mark a cuck. Like, I don't—

right, they gonna be a cuck.

Yo, you have to have done the shit to be a cuck, right?

Right.

I would think so.

Yeah, to be a cuck, you have to watch her get fucking plowed.

Yeah, yeah.

Not on no fucking video neither.

Live, you gotta sit there and watch her smacking your forehead, nigga. Plowed. Ain't no way in the hell.

Yeah, I've never done that. And I'm not looking to do that. There was a time that I was toxic enough in my younger days where I used to pretend to be a cuck to find out who she was trying to fuck on. What? Oh, okay.

That's some Virgo shit right there.

My boy scared me for a second. He was sitting there like, what? I thought you was saying a porn star. Oh, technically that's a cuck.

They did it in front of you, but she wasn't there for it.

Wait, no, she didn't—

she at work.

Shut up, that don't count.

She at work.

She's at work. She was doing that whether you was there or not, nigga.

Don't count. But he chose to go.

But it ain't done just for him.

Did you used to go?

But he chose to go.

But a cuck is coming.

And you know she going to be fucking at 3:00 and you actually—

what you was doing while she was working?

Watching.

off? Eating popcorn, watching, just chilling.

Jerking off?

Nah, I have—

collecting the money.

Nah, that's not a cuck.

That's not a cuck.

Oh no, it's a cuck, but I, I think there's an extenuating circumstance where maybe this is not so bad.

But that's a job though.

Yeah, I agree, but he went— it wasn't like he just was at work.

He reaching to be the cuck.

Probably go to work.

He reaching, nigga. She ain't ask him to come to work. Bring your man to work day. She was fucking Hercules. She was letting Hercules fuck that day whether he's there or not. But he chose to go, which is why it makes it a little cuckish.

What made you go? Do you need her car?

Uh, no, just to make sure.

But that's like him being at home. That's like him being home putting on a porn and his girl— No, no, no, no, no, no, different.

Having to go watch somebody fucking—

He did not have to go watch it live.

No, he didn't have to.

He wanted to go.

He wanted to go see his girl.

He didn't want to go. She said, babe, you want to come back to the job?

Real talk. Tell us. Some of that shit was fire.

All right, he's a cuck. He's a cuck. There he is. Just with her.

Just with her.

But it was like a low-level cuck.

Yeah, for sure.

For sure.

Yeah, it's like level 1.

I ain't respecting his cuckness. You gotta be off the clock and really get into it. Off the clock and it's your bag.

Yeah.

That's when it's different.

Because now you get into the minutia of being a cuck, which is, how do we find this person? Who is this person? What is the relationship? What is the trust there? Where is this happening?

It's the detail, right?

It's effort and work being on that.

Can I ask you a question? Oh good, I'm sorry.

It's levels to being a cook because, you know, some of them niggas, they get to talking, you know what I mean? And he's like, yeah, you like the man, your wife.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Next thing you know, yeah, no, no, it was on set.

He couldn't be that. Yeah, you need a check for that, right?

But it's not like a producer.

Yeah, so, but, but all right. All right, here we go. And then I'm leaving this freakazoid shit that y'all on. When she was at work working, what were you doing on the side? Eating popcorn, you said?

I mean, uh, might go make— might come back, sit down, chill.

I'm not respecting that. He ain't bust a nut.

So you see, that's what I was gonna— you have to come back.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

That, that's not freshman bullshit.

That's not, that's not What baby cuck consists of. You don't have to nut to still be a cuck.

Was you hard?

You gotta get turned on for me.

There's been moments.

Were you hard eating the popcorn, nigga? Pause.

With the buttery hands.

And who was harder?

There's no way. Oh yo, come on, son.

I'm starting to get the gist of why you just went to the popcorn. All right, I'm out of y'all business, man.

Oh, so what do we—

what do we want to be cucks? Be cucks.

Can y'all give some advice? advice to Dillon? No, because he's standing here now.

Let's assume it's true.

If it's true, Dillon just told the Spurs organization, I refuse to be a 6th man. They're thinking about running a 3-guard rotation, and he's up for a max contract.

Dillon Harper's the fucking man.

In 2 years. He comes from a basketball— he comes from a basketball family. His parents are at the game. You have to assume that he was raised This is normal 22-year-old shit.

That might be why he's not responding to this in this way.

Good for him.

I got too much going on. I do not even need my eyes or my likeness attached to this bullshit. He might be handling it in a different way behind the scenes, but he ain't about to give shorty any insight on how he gonna handle it so that she can now go run her mouth to the internet too.

He's probably saying, yo, cheat, do this better.

Yeah, yeah.

His pops responded and just said, worry about your life, not somebody else's life.

There you go.

I love that. Shout out to Ron Harper for that.

over the cuck shit. If she's— if she— I respect it if she's like a teacher or like a mechanic, not a porn star. She got to do something else.

Joe, you know that there's— there's—

we all cucks.

There's cuck jealousy going on.

There's sex parties where people take their lady, right?

That's true.

And they go there and watch their lady get plowed out.

That's cucking, right?

That don't mean that they have to have sex, they don't have to bust a nut. It's just the act of watching your lady, no matter what she is, be pleasured by another man.

You know what it is though?

That's right, Monie.

I think we uneasy with it because she's acting or performing. Maybe acting is the wrong word.

She's performing.

Yeah, yeah.

Now you near, talk to her, man.

You know what I'm saying? So it don't feel like a genuine, like, I'm watching my wife— I mean, my girl or my wife or my whatever get fucked.

Especially when you spending the money, nigga.

You know what I'm saying? It's more like, you You know, just— she's working.

Let me ask you a question.

And she's probably working with a fellow porn star.

Exactly. Let me ask you— 2 actors acting.

I want to see how you cuck when she fucking the nigga that be at the bodega in the morning.

Wait, hold on.

Let me ask you a question. Not your current ladies. Let's just say one of your exes you were with.

I hate when he— his examples, right?

This is somebody you dated in the past, you're with them at the moment, and a video gets leaked of them, or you end up running into a video of them with someone else.

That's happened to me before.

Do you watch it?

I don't.

Did you watch it?

No.

Okay.

How'd you bump into it?

You damn right you watch it. These niggas is lying. Come on now, move on.

The internet.

Come on.

You bumped into a video of some old work?

Receiving calls.

Fucking on the internet?

Yeah, I mean, she was fairly well known.

Was you with her?

No, no, I, I wasn't— I wasn't with her at the time that I saw the video.

Okay.

If I had been with her at the time of the video, I wouldn't have cared. I mean, I wouldn't have watched it, but I wouldn't have bugged out.

He doesn't watch porn at all, though.

Yeah, I'm also not a porn person, so that might be part of the— How did you bump into it? Uh, it was on my timeline.

Never trust a nigga that don't watch porn.

That's one way to think about it.

Sorry.

Joe? What?

I'm actually—

I'm blown away that this is what y'all find when y'all go in the phone.

No, I never found that.

Lucky me.

Yeah, I've never opened up Twitter and saw my ex receiving claps.

What the hell? He thought he had us. You a freak-ass nigga.

Yeah, you different.

Let's move on.

Anyway, what else is going on?

Since we doing a public service for people in these tough times, uh, another story came out. The, uh—

What size bag was the popcorn? Yo, yo, that's my last question.

Was it white cheddar or—

He got finished with that shit fast as hell, then he had to sit there and look at me. The little uts. Oh yeah, I have a small bag. All right, I'm sorry, Mark.

Uh, I don't know if you have heard of this term robbery by seduction.

Uh, no.

What's that?

Well, there's an escort in Miami, you'd be shocked to know, uh, who has currently been arrested because she was at Booby Trap.

Okay.

Robbing people. She takes the men home.

That's happening at Booby Trap right now.

Right at this moment.

But here's the difference. All the strip clubs in New York.

Happened in the Bronx last night.

This is different.

though.

How so? They say the sticky-fingered escort is accused of stealing more than $135,000 from men she met at Booby Trap. Basically, like, for example, they'll leave their chains on the sink, and in this case they left—

Stupid.

Bye-bye.

In Booby Trap?

No, no, no, she met him at the club, they go back to the crib.

Oh, this is old school.

$110,000 in, in jewelry. It was 2 gold chains. I guess he left it on the sink. sink. Um, actually, yeah, she went back to his Airbnb and continued drinking in an upstairs bedroom. The victim then placed the chains on the bathroom counter and went to sleep, but in the morning, dun dun dun, they were gone.

Stupid.

Oh, it's totally old school. That's why I feel like we need to—

Yeah, I don't even— what's the story here? Yeah, yeah, free her. Free that lady.

What crime she commit?

Yeah, what she did wrong?

Nigga, so she's— y'all got no sympathy?

The crime he committed was letting her sleep over.

Yeah, not a ton of sympathy, honestly.

This is like a bunch of crimes he committed. Taking his shit off.

She's drugging them.

Hiring a prostitute.

No, I don't think she's drugging them. This ain't the drugging them like she waiting for them to fall asleep. She waiting for them to fall asleep and just took the shit.

They gonna put them out.

No, they were drunk because they were drinking all night.

It's bad, but it's like, does she fuck them too?

Probably service for service.

What do you think is gonna happen?

What you think gonna happen?

You fall asleep with the VVSs out. You know what I mean?

Yeah, that's what I'm— to get some shit you volunteer for.

Right, that's a volunteer.

I'm saying the game is the game.

I can't feel sorry for you in this case.

And in this game—

Especially that she not drugging him.

Ooh, and it sound like the person ain't even from where she from, 'cause he's at an Airbnb, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So he probably out of town.

But out of town.

Yeah, out of town, went to Miami.

Out of town and went to Miami.

Showing off.

Look, showing off.

he's—

hey, hey, brother, the game's the game.

Y'all going to learn to go to these other places and, and try to be that dude.

Honestly, you better be glad that's all that happened.

That is. Honestly, if you really—

you could have been—

you lucky she took them and not— you could have been duct taped and tied up in somebody trunk.

And I'm sure you had, uh, jewelry insurance.

Yeah, right.

Of course.

Sure.

Yeah, they all do.

Naturally.

Naturally.

Of course.

But that's why I said this kind of a public service. There's a generation of these young boys that don't have people telling them how to handle this situation. What's the rules on this? Don't take her back to the crib? Don't take the jewelry off? What's the rules?

All of the above.

Don't go to Booby Trap, yo.

No.

No.

Booby Trap is a fine establishment.

Don't go to Booby Trap.

It's a great establishment.

It's great.

Go there.

Enjoy the women.

It's not the greatest.

I mean—

It's not the greatest establishment.

To a strip club connoisseur of your ilk, yes.

To people of that— of that—

What makes it not of your ilk?

I mean, women have been kidnapped by Booby Trap.

It's the crowd.

Women have been shot by Booby Trap. trap. People have been shot by booby traps. People have been set up and murdered.

That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's the underworld, but niggas still go.

It's happening rather frequently over there, and I don't wanna, I don't wanna just keep speaking about all of the underworld booby trap shit, but it, it, it hurts. Yes, it happens. It happens at a high clip.

I don't wanna tell people to stop going.

Yeah, I'm established here.

So if you're enjoying it, go at your own risk.

Go responsibly, man.

I'm saying don't go because it's skilled, trained, professional assassins in there.

You just got to know how to move.

And they look good and they smell good. And don't be a lick.

So they— so they— they— you take them back, Ice, since you said you know how to move.

How do you move?

Not you, but how would one move when they take them back to the crib?

First of all, you shouldn't— she can't stay. Like, yeah, that's a good start. Falling asleep around the strange It ain't gotta— you ain't have to meet her at Booby Trap.

Yeah, she didn't have to be there.

You could have met the chick in the club.

Yeah.

Falling asleep around a strange chick is always—

Around a stranger, period.

Yeah, yeah. One-night stands could go that way.

Okay.

It don't have to just be a chick you met in, uh, in a strip club.

That's a fact.

Same night, same fights is getting, uh, is dangerous.

But what if you needed a good cuddle? Yeah, but you know, sometimes you need a good cuddle after a date.

Set an alarm. Yeah. You know what I mean?

For noon.

Okay.

A little earlier than noon.

At 9.

Nah, fuck noon.

Yeah, same night, same fight. It's, it's, it's too risky, especially the spots that you taking these women out of. They already got their agenda. You can't risk it. It's situational awareness now.

You leave your jewelry on. Especially if you're an out-of-towner.

Yes.

It's a home game for her.

Yeah.

Away game for you.

'Cause I'm not worried about—

You at a disadvantage from the word go.

I'm actually not worried about falling asleep.

I'm sitting here thinking about Rob remarks on the goof robbery by seduction.

That's the charge now, nigga. That ain't— that's the crime. The police said that. I mean, that's the actual crime, robbery by seduction, which I didn't even know was a thing.

So that's the charge of— was she in Florida? Yeah. Florida's a wild fucking place to be, boy.

Yo, it is, man.

Now I know we talking shit.

We—

I mean, we probably not talking shit, but it is fucked up that you go ahead and you think you about to link with somebody, have a—

Think you made a meaningful connection.

Yeah.

And this happened.

So one time I was fucking with this nigga and I was climbing in his closet to steal from him because he couldn't count well. So I would always steal to make the money even. And he kept it high in the closet. So I was like on a pedal, like a footstool when he came in. Like there was no way to explain why I was that high up in them cobwebs instead, unless I was stealing. And I remember when I turned around and we locked eyes and it was like that. moment where he know like, damn, this bitch stealing from me. That was a wild time in my life.

And what happened?

So what happened? Nothing, bro.

Y'all know what happened. We got the wrestling and shit, but that's not the point. The point is I got caught stealing. You know, a lot of women have stole from a nigga that went to sleep, you know, especially if he fucked up and that pocket big. There's a lot of y'all can't count, man.

Just take a little off the top.

Well, that's what she did the week before. This same woman, a couple weeks earlier, took $25,000 $5,400 out of somebody's pocket, took some clothing and jewelry. That time she, she had him do shots of tequila until he passed out.

Of course.

Then she grabbed his stuff. And he picked her out of a lineup. He told the police, picked her out of a lineup. She has a big tattoo on her neck that says Israel. And they went back to the, to the club and found her. So maybe she'll get banned from the club now.

She won't. The club.

I just feel like there's so many cases nowadays where women are chemically putting them down, right? Right? So it's like sometimes people will pass away because they don't know what drugs they're using and how to use it. Like, in all the cases, it just seemed kind of petty.

Is that the line for you, Stretch?

Because it's like, how— it's like, even when you say, oh, she had him taking shots of tequila, you don't have no man taking shots of tequila. He wanted to get fucked up, so he took shots of tequila. It's a difference if you sprinkling something inside tequila, you know? Yeah.

I think whenever you manipulate somebody and take they shit, you should be on the hook for it. The game is the game. You should know that and avoid it. it, so I don't lose no sleep over homie. But it's still fucked up. It's still fucked up to take somebody home.

Hey, God bless you, nigga, man. Yeah, God bless you.

Move smart.

Yeah, if you don't, you'll be a vic.

Get it safe.

Yeah, but see, that's— that the problem with the safe is, because to me, I would never take jewelry off, you know what I'm saying? But if you were— if you out of town, I'm not worried about her taking my shit the most. I'm worried about somebody being outside.

See, and y'all judge me for keep wearing the JBP This is why.

That's why you did it?

That's why you wore it. They ain't gonna take that.

They ain't gonna take that.

No, they try to take it. You think that shit won't be on Reddit?

Yo, yo, yeah, Ice, back in your backsliding days, if you was to go home with a girl from the club and you woke up—

Go home with her?

Excuse me, if you was to fuck a bitch from the club and just by some kind of way when you went to piss, this, she took your watch or your chain. What do you do when you run into her?

You know, you know Ice gonna do—

Ice got the tracker on his Apple Watch. He gonna find that.

Let me find my shit.

Fuck out of here.

How did you get out of that house when, when you was fucking, uh, homeboy's wife?

What?

He didn't come home or nothing.

Oh, okay. He didn't come home. All right, Yeah, it wasn't nothing like that. Like I said, she—

What would you have done if he came on?

They knew. Like, she told me, yo, listen, I'm married, my husband knows where I'm at, we have open relationships. Like, she broke the shit down. I was like, all right, bet. Fuck it.

That shit don't be true.

Nah, they, they, they, they was on—

You met him.

It was some other shit.

I believe you in this case. I'm just saying, a lot of time that'd be bullshit.

Yeah.

Y'all had dinner before and all that?

What?

Yeah, you met him?

No.

All right, all right.

Where else? What else we got? We did it, we did it. We got to the bottom of it. Awesome.

What else is going on?

This is important to us.

Um, and other, uh, what you said, giving people advice for making dumb decisions.

Yeah.

There's a case I read about, um, over the weekend, and a young lady named Dorn Michelle Hunt. So Dorn Michelle Hunt received a notice that she won a sweepstakes, and it was a trip to Indonesia.

Okay.

So she took the trip. Oh, all her family and stuff was like, yo, this seemed a little sketchy. Like, how'd you win this sweepstakes? mistakes. But they allegedly, they looked the company up, it seemed legit, the tickets were real, everything was real. So she took the trip, gets to Indonesia, came with a shopping spree. She spent a little bit of time out there, got some designer bags, got pissed on.

This is—

wait, where is this at? Joe, Joe, Joe, no, man, no. No, please.

I got it, I got it, I got it.

Goddamn, he trolling.

You can't say that. No, no. All right, y'all rather let—

he keep trying to get it off.

Let's go with different— let's go with his story. She wanted sweet steaks and she went over there and went shopping.

Hey, listen, hey, nigga, today these motherfuckers do anything to go be able to post some shit on the gram. So I'm— yeah, so what happened? So she got there there.

Mhm.

Did a little shopping and shit, got some designer bags, got some luggage, and they told her, um, you know, your return trip has a layover in China and then it's on the way back.

Dope.

Okay, the layover happens in China, they search, they find drugs.

Ah shit.

She's arrested, tried, sentenced to death.

Damn.

Wait, has been locked up in China for 12 years now.

Can I ask, just a clarifying question, did she actually sign up for it? So you saying She says no.

She's an involuntary mule is what she is.

Go to plane now.

The term—

Yo, I'm sorry.

The term is blind mule.

Blind mule. Okay.

The lack of sympathy y'all have for homeboy who got his chain stolen—

Is how you feel?

That's what I got for her. You didn't sign up for a sweepstakes.

But you won.

But you won.

And got a shopping spree too.

And we gave you a shopping spree, a trip that we just got to stop in China.

And luggage.

And luggage.

This one sounds the most believable. I'm not gonna lie.

Yeah, for real.

Exactly, by the grace of God.

It's a real story.

Don't try to block my piss.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

This got it written all over it.

It's a real story.

It's a real story.

They was trying to get, you know—

Go to airport now.

Go now. Go get him.

5 minutes.

5 minutes.

We pick you up now. Y'all going to hell.

Yo.

Make them stop.

I'm not—

Where?

Go Indonesia. Stop. This has been a really, really immature day.

It has, it has.

And me and Parks have tried to—

We tried to keep it together.

Yo, you idiot!

I ain't trying to be serious with this shit.

I ain't trying to be upset.

Fuck up.

Can you believe this happened to you?

I'm calling Reverend Sharpton right now.

This is bullshit. Get Ben Crump on the line right now. Yeah, it sound like you want justice for this lady.

Nah, I just said it's fucked up.

No, it is fucked up, and I do want her to come home. Get sentenced to death.

sense.

That's crazy. Oh, well, that part, that's crazy. Well, nowadays it ain't the worst.

You might, might get through that.

People are beating it.

Yo.

Oh no, yo, yo, not the black dudes.

Yo, that was crazy.

That was a good shot. Nah, they fixed that shit. They fixed that shit before the black dudes. The black dudes, they killed the shit out of Leon. Christina Pike She's cool somewhere.

Fresh needles.

When Lester got up there, he was like, give me 100 proof.

Yeah, no, she's—

they turn that shit up a notch.

Can you say extra strength?

Drop shelf! Extra strength, yes!

That nigga said 100 proof, extra strength electrocution.

That's absolutely crazy.

I'm sorry, y'all.

We should not laugh at that. That's funny as fuck.

Nah, he was on death row just feeling like he had a shot. Oh shit, they using the weak stuff. Shorty survived. You know word got back. Yo, Shorty lived.

That shit weak over there.

We good.

He at the same time, you know, he's taking all kinds of— he just knew he was good.

Oh yo, free Christina. Mike, and free— no, no, no, no, no, whoa, whoa, hold on.

Well, she was a monster. Free what? Free her.

No, timeout.

Why?

We ain't—

we not—

if I'm sentenced to death and y'all try to kill me and y'all don't succeed twice, and they gotta—

3rd time is the charm.

We just gonna keep doing this shit?

We got business to do, my brother.

No, no, nah, hell no, I ain't rolling with that.

I used to go to Excuse school with me, I don't know what she did.

She tortured a woman and walked around with her skull on a chain at school the next day.

Yes. And they were— mind you, the woman's crime, the woman's crime, she thought she was talking, trying to talk to her nigga. Not even she thought she fucked him, she just thought she liked her boyfriend. They was in Job Corps together.

See, that woman-to-woman shit, everybody don't play that.

See how it turns out?

Everybody ain't just taking the news peacefully.

Oh, and you know what else I think is important to that case. When she did that big, you know, on death row you sit for years. Yeah, baby, she wasn't chilling. She didn't choke motherfuckers out, all kind of shit. While she sat, she was kicking ass in that motherfucker, taking names. Podballs, put that bitch down like a dog. She's a fucking—

I'm not saying that.

That's a tough bitch.

I'm against the death penalty. It's just funny that of all the people I brought up here to free, this is the one we picked to ride for.

Don't ever yell free somebody in this respect.

She walk around with niggas' skulls in a purse. Like, what are we talking about? No, we're not starting there. But no, end the death penalty.

All right, house arrest the lady. No.

She already on house arrest.

Rehab. No, rehab.

Yes.

They got all of that at the pen.

Yes, I wanna restore— I want justice. I want restorative justice here. But Jesus, that's a nasty crime.

See, I feel like if y'all tried, it's a reason why this shit ain't working. I'm supposed to be here.

Or.

Or.

Or the third time— We need a new generator.

We're putting that shit in.

Yeah, mixed up with full chemicals.

Yeah, exactly. Fuck that. Just go to old school.

She's speaking though. They said she's awake and speaking and requesting that she lives her life out in a therapeutic hospital or something.

Nah.

So does she have any issues from what happened?

She's got issues, man.

She had a nigga in her purse.

From the attempt? From the attempt?

Yes, yes.

Did she have some kind of medical issues from that?

Mm-hmm.

We need that first aid kit.

Wow.

We need that first day out. We need that.

You can't get a Christina Pike first day out.

First day off death row. Yeah.

What?

We playing, yo.

I'm alive.

We playing, but she killed— that family deserves their justice.

Word.

How long she was on death row?

20 years, I think.

Something like that. Yeah, 'cause she went in when she was 18.

Don't do it, Jimmy.

Don't do it, yo.

Look at you. You wanna say F.D., yo. F.D., yo. Look at you. It's in your head right now. I know it.

I'm chilling, man.

The death penalty is barbaric. I'm against it. Yeah, I'm not with that shit. Yeah, end the death penalty, man.

He's lying.

No, I'm not with that.

You're against the death penalty?

I think so.

Are you against the death penalty or not?

Yes. Are you, are you for the death penalty, Mona?

No, only reason why I'm against the death penalty, because too many black people go to jail innocent. That's the only reason why. Other than that, I'm with that shit. But I do believe that that little boy need to get put down like a dog, and we can talk about that when y'all ready.

You gonna get— go ahead, you gonna get that little shit. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Let go.

So like, um, I think 3 years ago, something like that, this little boy in Virginia, um, he's 6 years old, he's in first grade, um, he's having some behavioral problems. His mother said he has attention deficit disorder, ADD.

That's the only condition on it.

That's the only thing. Throw it like a spades card.

And he got insomnia too.

He got a little bit A little more than that.

But he has ADD, and out of all the issues you can have, that's really not the biggest one, but whatever. His behavioral issues are so extreme that he goes to school with his mom and his dad. Now, week 1 of him being able to go to school alone with no mom or no dad, some of the teachers are aware, they think that he has a weapon 'cause of some of the things he's saying in class and how the other kids are responding, okay? Um, tells another teacher, that teacher tells the principal he has a gun. It's protocols you gotta fire— long— follow. Long story short, this little boy is able to pull that gun out and shoot at his teacher. It goes through her hand and in her chest, right?

Yes.

The teacher— shout out to the teacher— she gets all the kids out, gets to the front office, collapses, okay? Um, another staff member comes in the room. This is an older, chubby, sweet-looking white lady. She don't have to wrestle She just come, grab him like this, with the back of his head to her face.

She just hold him.

And she holds him, okay? Now the reason why this case that's 3 years old is back out in the press is because the body cams that the police wore went viral. They came out and they went viral. The way this fucking 6-year-old talked to them pigs, and I'm only calling them pigs 'cause I'm trying to keep staying in his mind frame. 'Cause that nigga come from the '70s. He's a Panther. Something, the nigga been through stuff. He his own man. He's a reincarnation. That's not no normal 6-year-old, I can't wipe my ass. That motherfucker's an old crook, okay? So the way he spoke to them jive-ass turkeys that walked in—

Wait, what he said?

Bro, bro, when he walks in— Parks, I sent it to you. Can you please just please play this nigga? I can't actually do it like he did it.

I'm not gonna hold you.

Sound like an episode of The Boondocks.

Wait, what?

She's right.

Listen to this baby. He's 6.

I just keep saying, keep reminding he's 6.

He's 6 and just shot his teacher. Y'all, just shout his teacher.

All right, here we go. All right.

And I called 911 when I heard the—

I'm gonna get specialists. I came down the hall.

What?

Listen to him.

No, we're not.

Where's the air pump?

It's over here on the floor.

They walking into him like to question the boy while the teacher holding him. Is he cursing the teacher out and the cops?

You can stay for now.

There you go. Is he okay?

He's fine.

He's fine. Did anything hurt you? No.

Let me see your hands.

Let me see your hands. Nobody had sex with the cop.

Where is the weapon?

It's on the floor.

It's over there, boy.

Stop. Fuck you.

That's not how we speak to each other. Fuck you, bitch. His, uh, yeah, I'm good. I mean, he does have the gun residue, looks like. Okay, let's just not touch his hands or anything, okay?

Yeah.

It seems light so far.

Yeah, yeah.

My mom had this.

Yes.

I stole that from my mom. Okay, buddy.

What's your name?

Got to teach this little boy not to speak to the cops.

Your name?

Want me to come get it?

Piece of me come get it?

Yeah, is that it?

I think they're redacting.

Supposedly. I don't care if you call backup.

I don't care if I go to jail, bitch.

We know you know that language and you know that's not appropriate.

He just shot somebody.

Way past language. Once you open fire in a classroom, I'm not really worried about the F-bomb.

Language, language. He said, I don't care if you call backup. I don't care if I go to jail.

This actually makes me sad. It makes me really, really sad. It reminds me of, um, The kid from The Wire, Kennard.

Yeah.

You know, that shit is crazy, man. I don't even know what you do. 'Cause all I think about, in addition to the tragedy of—

Shooting the teacher.

Shooting the teacher. You know, I'm sending all my thoughts and prayers to the people who were victims of this. But I keep thinking, what did this kid go through? What has this kid seen to get him to that point?

That's the thing.

That ain't some shit that just happened.

I watched the interview with his mom. His mom seems like a normal person. But he lives with his grandfather now. He's never been charged. This little nigga's still free roaming the streets. We're in trouble.

And he's 9 now?

Yeah, around the same, around that age. But, um, his mom—

He just walking the streets?

He don't— he never was charged. He lives— his, his— he was moved with his grandfather because his mother was charged with neglect. Because clearly, if your son has that much of a behavioral issue that he has to take his parents to school, why the fuck is your gun anywhere in this nigga's reach? It shouldn't be in any of the kids' reach. But the kid that had the issues—

Especially not that kid.

Yeah, I'm sure this not his first time saying, I'll shoot everybody in this motherfucker. That's how he talk. But the way he sounds and you assume how his family life is off that interview, they don't give that. The family don't give that. I'm sure it is that, but— It's probably some crime.

I ain't gonna say that, no.

You know what I mean? But yeah, it's a wild-ass story though, 'cause it didn't go viral back then. And the story that people were really on was that the teacher sued. The teacher sued for $40 million because her grounds were, I told everybody they're not supposed to tell that he had a gun. Nobody did shit about him having a gun to the point that I get shot, right?

Yeah.

So she's awarded $10 million. They, um, they tried to charge the principal because she's the one that's highest up, and she was told— they have— they proved that she was told that he had a gun 5 times that morning.

And didn't follow protocol.

But 5 different people didn't do shit. I mean, she claimed she followed the protocol because you're not not allowed to search that person. This nigga's 6. I'mma grab this nigga by the back of his neck.

It's rules.

You can't search—

it's rules to how you search kids in Virginia. I was shocked too. I thought that once you came into school as a student, you give up that right and they can search whatever. It's not like that.

Or maybe once they say, hey, this nigga, little nigga got a gun, see, I think we should be able to search him.

The original plan was to search—

I don't know about able.

I know if I find out, if I'm teaching and I got— and you tell me somebody got a gun and I can get to the back, I'll deal with the consequences later. You arrest me Yeah, whatever.

We'll deal with that later.

And guess what the lawyers were arguing in court? That she didn't do enough, the teacher. So the fact that she saved every student, dragged them out of there, and got shot— she still didn't do enough because technically she could have removed her entire class when she heard the word gun and got them away from the room.

Every single person that knew about this should not be working in the school system ever again. Ever again. It's too many risks.

Well, every person that didn't do something, because a lot of them did something when they found out. The one that was the most calm was the principal. Now, as far as what rules she broke, I don't know, because again, she wasn't charged criminally. She went to court, the judge said this isn't a crime, and released her.

What would you do to the kid?

Me?

Yeah.

I'mma, I'mma, I'm gonna, um, let me see, how can I say this in a positive manner? I'm going to subdue the target. I'mma kick his ass. I'm not gonna lie, I'm taking your child out, man. If I gotta get rid of one kid, kid to save 30, I'm with that. This nigga's short. I'm gonna stomp him out. I'm getting rid of him. He's a bad apple, man. He's— something wrong with that boy. He said, Mr. Doctor, looking— he's looking disappointed. Mr. Doctor, fuck that. Some kids need to be taken the fuck out. He might be one of them, man.

He needs a mentor.

He needs coaching. Take that nigga to Guantanamo Bay and lock his ass up till he gray.

But you don't want to free Justin Timberlake, man.

You see what I'm saying? about?

Jamila, little 6-year-old boy. That boy, that boy said to that teacher, get the fuck off me, whore. I ain't start using whore in that way till I was 30. You don't say whore with that much bass till you done fucked a bitch and had a baby. That ain't no fucking 6-year-old. That motherfucker got Benjamin Button. That nigga 30.

I'm mad that nigga white privilege work so early. He Black.

He Black. That's a Black—

That's what he Black.

I hear it in his voice. He is Black. His mother His mother is Black. His grandmother is Black. He is all Black.

If I'd have known that, I'd have never let y'all bring this to the Airwaves.

I was like, why the fuck is this happening? Why the hell are y'all highlighting Mona?

I know.

I thought this was a white kid.

I was like, hang him.

Shout out to Virginia.

No, no, no. Bless that baby's heart.

That's right. Let's end this segment, please.

Bless that baby.

This nigga just went on a full rant because he really don't want Mark's son in here next week. But bless that baby heart. We don't even want Poppy in this motherfucker. But bless that baby. We don't do bad kids at JBP. Keep them niggas home.

Yeah, because Mark kid have a gun. He think that Arabic language shit gonna stop—

Oh yeah, that always calms people down.

Yeah.

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Give me Bijan Robinson more. Whatever he wants to do.

Yeah.

Give me more on him.

He ain't playing.

Let's go with Colston Loveland. Give me a big less. Give me a big less on whatever number is there. next to his name. 1 yard less. Um, you know what, I like, I like Cleveland at the Jets. Give me, give me Denzel Boston for more than whatever they have next to his name. And give me, let's see, give me DK Metcalf for less than whatever it says next to his name.

Okay.

He had that one good game.

I ain't Yeah, it's not bad.

Not sold.

Not bad.

Not sold on DK.

I was arguing at my, my fantasy football draft to draft Michael Pittman thinking he was gonna have a big year.

Yeah, boy, offense ain't doing—

boy, was I wrong about that. Quiet.

Should have caught me. I just told you, stay away from them.

All up stealers, right?

Yeah.

I don't know why I was drinking the Coach and Aaron Rodgers. I was drinking.

I told y'all.

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All right, all right, real quick, I just want to send a shout out to A'ja Wilson.

Oh yeah, for sure.

Okay, yeah, won her 5th league MVP, uh, in spectacular fashion.

Yeah, this is GOAT behavior.

here. She's making the case.

No, no, no, no, the case made.

Case made.

Case made.

Case made.

There's some other greats, but, but she's certainly— she's in the conversation. She might be. I'm not saying she's not. I'm just saying, like, I got it. She's extraordinary, man. Shout out to her. Joe, did you see my Sixers lineup last night?

Uh, did I see the lineup?

We played— all 5 played for the first time.

I saw the final score.

What was the final score?

Uh, what was it? 111 to something. Y'all lost.

Yeah, it's preseason. I'm worried about the losses.

Yeah, we don't care.

You play 20 people.

We lost too.

Yeah, yeah, I didn't even remember the final score. I knew we lost, but I couldn't remember the score.

We were like 0-2 in the preseason.

Yeah, I don't care about that. I just like seeing all 5 of those guys on the floor.

They look good.

Embiid looked like he couldn't get off the ground a little bit. That's my concern.

But how do you feel about that flop?

I don't know what you're talking about.

Embiid still looks worrisome, but the rest of them boys look real good. And I ain't gonna lie to you, that's gonna be fun to watch.

It's gonna be a good season defensively. I'm a little worried But I think we're gonna have a great year. It's gonna be competitive. Nick's gonna be great. Everybody's gonna be great. It's gonna be a good basketball year.

I'm excited to see the Sixers, uh, Ant-Man and LaMelo. I'm drinking the Kool-Aid. That's just gonna be fun to watch, even if it doesn't work.

Yeah, same thing. Them highlights last night had me—

Yeah. Yeah.

I think Miami's gonna be better than what people expect too.

I'm always low on Giannis.

Oh, I love Trey Mann dunking on Giannis and, uh, Bam. I love that.

It was cool.

Oh.

It was cool.

But I think Miami's gonna be, be all right.

Yeah, I mean, they're a strong team.

I had to read all these weeks, oh, the defense on Miami with Bam and Greek Freak. Trey Mann just put his balls on their face. Mad fast. And shout out to the Yankees. Way to go. 9 seasons in with Aaron Boone. 9 seasons of failure and doom and gloom. You did it again. Way to get swept. Yeah, great job.

The way that ended though, y'all look great.

That's sad.

That, that That, it was nasty. That was—

that interference was fucked up.

Y'all ended, y'all ended as bad as my Phillies, man.

That, that fan interference, that, that would, that, that's a big thing.

That's big.

That's a big deal.

They need to address that.

I can't believe that that would happen in the Bronx. Yankee Stadium.

So the first time we've seen it.

Why would you do that, yo?

Horrible.

Yeah, I've never seen that done for your team.

He'll never be allowed back in Yankee Stadium.

Yankee Stadium, he might not.

He might have made it home. Bronx.

He might not have made it Right.

So, play that shit. Go Yankees. We'll see how this goes next year.

You already know how it's gonna go next year. I feel like they've decided they're gonna build a functional, healthy business more than they want to build a winning culture. And I, and I'm saying that about a lot of teams. I'm worried about my Phillies, you know what I mean, who are spending so much money to continue to lose in the first or second round. We're getting worse every year with these bloated lineups. Um, yeah.

Yeah, that's only working for the Dodgers.

The Dodgers are the only team that seems to be getting this shit off, man, because they just molly-whopped the Braves. Yeah.

Um, where do y'all want to go? Music. Music.

Music.

Music.

We have a Snow Elektra sighting.

Yes, my girl released a new single.

Last album was 2021, I want to say. That was the Pharrell album. And here we are. Yeah, it's been, it's been that long.

It's been a long time.

It's been that long. A lot of artists either, A, we need to put an APB out on them because where are they and where have they been? And you can feel like an industry shutdown at some of these labels. I heard, I heard my brother Ray Daniels talking about it at Universal. You could feel it though as a consumer of music that there's a freeze.

Oh yeah.

And everybody's not— you're done. There's no money for you. You're done. Go make music.

This streaming shit is for the birds, man.

Fourth quarter though, you expect some shit to drop at least.

It lets me know that— lets me know the state of the art. of things. Yes, but we have a Snow Aleg reciting. Let's do it, let's do it, let's run free, let's hear it. I love Snow.

Me too.

I'm in Snow Hive.

Me too.

And this snippet does bring me back to her in her Snow bag.

Yes.

Which I felt she was a little out of on the last project.

I didn't love the last project.

Uh, yeah, I didn't love it.

There were some slaps on there, but it wasn't—

But I didn't love it.

before.

It wasn't like Blood Feels Again.

Yeah.

Which I'm gonna call a classic, that album.

Yeah, it's classic.

Blood Feels Again?

Yeah, it's one of my best— it's one of my favorite albums of all time.

Classic '80s feel.

Yep.

Yes, you know what you're doing.

New, new job, babe! And there you have it.

Yes.

That sounds absolutely fire.

I love it.

Snow Allegra, Run Free. Uh, I'm assuming that she's teasing a project that will later be announced.

I was hoping we were gonna get a little surprise drop, but I think it was announced already.

Uh, A Legendary Love, I think, is the name of the album.

There was no date.

Yes, yes, that's the title of the album though.

Yeah, I need a date.

I'm talking about a date. Don't run me again for that shit.

No.

Talking about a date. Goddamn it.

This nigga.

Title. jump in and tell me the title of the album. I don't give a fuck, man. A legendary title of the album, Robbed by Seduction.

It matters, kind of lets you know the tone. You got mad about the Cleo Soul thing at first.

I love that album now. Now I absolutely love that album. So we'll see. This sounds great to me.

Yeah, it's about time.

This sounds good. It sounds like Snow. I'm ready, especially on the heels of Jhené just dropping not too long ago. I need all of the whisper queens, all of the—

it's time.

Yeah, yeah, let me hear it.

That's great. And quiet too long.

Her, hurry up.

Yup, that too.

Chill, chill.

All this other shit, cool, I get it.

I need that. Talk to me.

You, ma'am.

Nah, you don't rush that. That one, you know, we want it though.

It's been how many years?

It don't matter.

It don't matter.

It ain't rushing at this point.

No, no, not at all.

We're not rushing her. No, just— we want to be ready.

How they feel, how How people feel about Frank, I feel about her. Take your time, take your time.

Oh no, I don't feel that way about Frank Ocean.

I don't feel that way.

You know there's a lot of people that don't. No, I do. Mad people feel it.

No, I know.

That's what the Frank guys feel like. They're like, we don't fit you either.

But they still drinking the Kool-Aid. Like, they still think it's coming.

Frank Ocean's jewelry collection is popping now.

Oh yeah.

Which is the guy version of Rihanna Fenty for me. Like, y'all ain't about to get no music music.

They're not— they're not getting— you wasn't getting shit as lit.

Is he killing it like that?

Yes.

Oh, I didn't know that.

I didn't know that.

Okay, you bought something?

No, I didn't buy— I'm not buying any jewelry anytime soon.

You done bought enough jewelry. Besides the huge Cuban, I'm talking about that engagement ring. It's enough.

Oh yeah, yeah.

And you got to buy another ring too.

That was worth it. She's still floating.

It's—

there's nothing like— there's nothing like engagement ring though. They be staring at that shit. They'll be staring at that shit for years.

I'm doing so much sappy and gay shit. I think the other night we just laid in bed with the TV off and the lights out and the shades down. We supposed to be trying to go to sleep. Somehow we end up talking to each other.

Yeah.

Oh, some talking broke out.

We had never done that. We never just laid in the dark and tried to sleep but kept saying shit to each other that was funny.

Oh, we do that shit all the time. Be annoying as hell, but it's great. It's— no, it's great.

It's so much fun.

Except for when you gotta wake up.

You wait till you find somebody, man.

I did it yesterday.

It was great. No, but it's different.

No, I'm joking. I'm joking.

I get what you're saying.

One of my favorite moments was— I was thinking about this, uh, this morning. I apologize. I didn't mean to interrupt you.

No, you know we always interrupt.

I wasn't— I wasn't sorry.

He's so shady.

He really wanted to get at me. He's been doing a little jazz.

He wants Don't get at me about my behavior last week.

Were you—

I wasn't here.

What happened last week?

What'd you do last week?

Nothing, nothing much.

I don't wanna get at you.

Do you have to do something for Joe Budden to wanna throw a jab at you?

Nah, fair.

I think you were great last week.

Thank you.

You killed it last week.

I think so as well, especially what happened off camera.

Oh, that thing that we can't talk about.

Exactly. I ain't paying y'all no mind. I wasn't here. I don't give a fuck what happened off camera.

That's what keep them subscribed.

What other music we got?

What other music we got?

Uh, we got a, we got a new Cardi record. Um, Cardi dropped the song, was actually on the GTA 6 soundtrack, which from the looks of things, they are— I mean, they, they haven't spared a penny at all. They, they throwing all the money everywhere for this GTA shit. Um, but yeah, she has a new record now. Uh, you, uh, think we have it, Parks?

I do.

Thank you.

Don't Shark.

Oh yeah, I'm sorry.

Is the name of this record?

Hey.

Bitch, be still. Hold up, hold up, bitch, be still. I'm still pretty, still bad, I'm still thick. I'm still me, therefore still talking my shit. Look, sucking the gut, um, fuck up the butt. Look, I got the good bra on, holding them up. I'm still popping, still winning, you still hating. Heard you gonna do something to me, I'm still waiting. First thing first, hoe, know your part. Act like an old-ass whip and don't start. I'm cold-blooded, must be all of this Chrome Heart. I can I can't wait to run into you hoes like go-karts. Bird bitch, don't get hit with a crowbar. I'm a hood bitch, you couldn't go to those parts. Look at me now, Cardi a whole star. If the song don't chart, it's gon' chart. I'm really that nigga, like I use the little boys. Long dick wrap around my leg, it be coil. I can make it hard like an egg when it's boiled. Always fresh 'cause your nigga keep me spoiled. I'm high fashion, long eyelashes.

I do appreciate that about Cardi. In every verse, she remind you that she ain't got no problem making some nigga hard. Like, that is a skill, like, to say it every record. I believe her, I do.

I fuck with this. Um, she, she popping her shit as usual. Um, it gave me— it's like, it sounds like a Bay Area bop a little bit.

Yeah, for sure.

And not to compare them to— I know they hate when people do this, but I do hear that—

So you are gonna compare them to—

I do hear that Soulja Boy, uh, Dunk beat, which was also used by someone else, but I could hear that in there as well.

Okay.

That's all. But I like the song, and I like what they doing with GTA. Like, they, they announced all the radio stations.

Oh, Trina and Trick Daddy.

Yeah, they got, uh, Dirty South Classics with Trina and Trick Daddy, um, Coco Teal with Bad Bunny and Rightneo. AfroBank with Burna Boy, Backcountry Radio with Morgan Wallen and Lana Del Rey. Like, they, they pay some names.

Yeah, they put money to do this shit.

So, well, it's Gucci. Yeah, they got all the money.

Yeah, all of it. They about to break some records.

They, they, they— the estimate is $2 billion spent right now.

Gosh damn.

And that ain't counting marketing. The marketing ain't really start yet. The game comes out in a little over a month.

Wow.

And you took—

you get early Oh, huh?

You took your days off for that?

Yes.

Okay.

What'd you say?

Did you get an early copy of it?

No.

Nope.

Tried my hardest.

This record to me sound like Cardi got the GTA call, opened up the, the old files.

Yeah.

Grab something.

Grab the record that didn't make it and maybe put some finishing touches on it.

It's perfect.

If doing anything to it. Hand this into these people. Let's get these few million dollars.

done with this.

That's what it sounds like to me.

Yeah, it's amazing.

Absolutely.

No, there's nothing wrong with it.

No, it's amazing.

That's what you want to be able to—

you, you— every, every artist strives to be able to do that. That's the goal, really.

Just the hip-hop names that they already reached out to for the record. Travis Scott was another one, you get what I'm saying? They're going to get the, the A-listers.

So that budget crazy.

But I do love this song. Looking forward to driving around shooting people to it.

Nice. Did y'all hear that new Did you make a freestyle?

I did.

I didn't actually.

I did.

I could find it.

Yeah.

Yeah, let's hear it. I can't wait to hear this.

Really?

Yeah. Meg can rap.

I did.

Rap beast.

I love Meg.

I saw it.

She can rap.

Hey, listen, I don't care if y'all don't like it. Meg looks amazing, man.

Oh, for sure.

For sure.

Meg looks amazing.

Is this, uh, Snowy looking?

Yes. Okay, I fuck with it.

Yeah, I like that.

If you like Meg, I think you're gonna like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's the thing I like about Meg is kind of what I don't like about this. It, it sounds like everything else I've heard from Meg. Like, she's kind of— put it this way, because I know that's going to get taken wrong. If you are a Meg fan, you will like this song. That's right.

Yeah.

If you are not a Meg fan— not saying you don't like her— but if you're not a Meg fan, I— this is not going to convert you because this to me sounds like— if the other records didn't do it, this just sounds like the other records to me.

Is it for you a production thing? Is it a subject matter thing?

What is it?

It's—

the bop sounds the same on every record to me. The production is kind of the same. It's, it's, it's like just more of the, this usual.

Feeding her people, man.

Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with that. Like, like I said, if you are a Meg fan, you'll hear this and say, yeah, this the shit I like, this what I want to hear, right?

I don't get that from her. I don't, I don't feel like everything she does has that same bop. Also, I don't want to take these too seriously because they are labeled as freestyles, even though it is over original production and stuff.

Yeah, I think there's a whole thing in why it's called a freestyle.

Now you're doing the science.

Okay, explain, explain.

To me, this is, this is the the single version of the mixtape versus album.

Yep.

Okay. So we're gonna call this a freestyle so that if it— there's no expectation for it now. So now we can't say it underperformed.

I don't think— I don't think— 'cause this is not the first freestyle. She put a freestyle before this. I don't think she was looking for this to perform. Now, I do think people do that, but I think the patterning that's showing, she's just trying to get people back hip to that she's about to release some shit. So if I drop a freestyle recently, I drop this, I'm not expecting it to perform. I'm not expecting it to catch under the guise of a single.

So let me just ask you, what would be— what would be the reasoning for— and I'm gonna put this out as a freestyle— I said this is— this isn't a single.

Well, it's no hook.

It's a—

it's a minute and 25 seconds long.

You don't know it's not a hook.

The record could be—

I've listened to the whole record. I've listened to—

You've listened to what was put out.

They put out.

Okay.

You say you don't know.

A minute 25 seconds is not— you Like, this is average damn near track length.

Hey yo, listen, let's be—

let's keep it a buck. If we gonna go ahead and put that stain— not stain, but if we're gonna put— no, no, I said let me take it back. If we're gonna put that narrative on her creating music that it all has the same feel, we gotta do that with majority of these motherfuckers out here. Let's not just do that to Meg. Meg is one of the— to me, she's one of the better female rappers in the space right now. I think she has a lot of stain put to her name, which is why maybe she might be having a problem connecting. But outside of that, musically, she's not bad.

Meg always could rap.

And she can rap, and I don't think it sounds as repetitive as some of this other shit we be championing.

Let me, let me be clear. Meg can rap. I don't want this to— again, please don't misconstrue what I'm saying. Meg can rap. Prior to whatever stain, as you say, there are people that was like, okay, it's cool, it's just, it's It ain't— it's just cool. There's been nothing that's gonna convince or make that person say, oh shit. That's what I'm saying. I haven't gotten the oh shit from Meg yet.

Okay.

I haven't gotten a record that had me like, oh goddamn.

That's—

that's—

It just sounds—

That's a narrative put on—

I'm not making—

On a bunch of artists. Shit, some of our favorites get the, uh, get the, uh—

Name names. You just said that about 4 times.

Name names.

One of his favorites, Chris Brown.

He gets that put on him all the time.

And then when I say— No, no, hold up.

Let me finish.

You finish.

Let me finish. Go ahead.

And I'm not saying that's the case, but when people say it, you will be quick to say— and you just said that earlier—

if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?

That's not what I'm quick to say. But with the Chris Brown thing, I say, okay, let's take— I always take the last 2 albums, whichever 2 they are. Give me the songs that are the same. And every time I do it, I don't get a response.

So now give me that in response when it comes to Meg.

I just—

No, no, give me that in response when it comes to Meg. everything that sounds the same back to back.

The last song that I— this record here and the last record I heard— again, she's not dropping Ally.

Sparks Fly.

Excuse me?

What'd you say?

He said Sparks Fly.

Oh, you trying to do your bullshit.

Sparks Fly.

I ain't helping you.

Check this out. Now I got nothing to say.

I figured out how to deal with your ass.

The algorithm.

Fuck you. Fuck you.

Get the fuck out of here.

But no, no, no. Um, with Kris, you also get a bunch of different genres.

Go back to Man.

I— all I hear is rap, the same rap from her. This record, the last song I heard was the same thing.

And that's just Meg?

I didn't say that's just Meg. We're talking about Meg 'cause she dropped a record. There's a bunch of other people. Hey, we getting ready to get to Gunna record. Guess what? Gunna song sounds just like everything else Gunna put out.

Oh, wait a minute.

Okay.

Nice. We getting ready to play— we can go right to Gunna right now. This new record he just dropped sounds like it was a leftover from 2 out— the last 2 albums.

I knew he was right.

Take it further, nigga.

I don't know. And to your Chris Brown point, nobody is gonna say anything if they're working. Like, the reason that may be highlighted with Meg is because none of them seem to be working. Like, when you talk about her having difficulty connecting, like, I'm sure her team or it's somebody's job to figure out why that is.

But you think that's a music thing? You think all that is—

you asking me?

I think it's a little bit of a music thing.

I think it's just music.

I don't think she's intentionally trying to make like a pop hit kind of record.

I think there's a lot of things surrounding her name.

My man, my man, my man, my baby, my baby. She be trying.

She tried with that record for sure.

She be trying with a lot of records.

She tried with a few of the records. That's what Ice's point is with the freestyle labeling. Uh, disguising research being—

but if you go on base off of that, that My Man, My Man record doesn't sound anything like any of these freestyles. So she's not trying to make the same sound. If we want to have the conversation of it just not sticking, then that's cool. And then we can have a further, a bigger conversation about why it's not sticking. But the conversation can't be it's because she keep producing the same product. She's not producing the same product, and she's not rapping over the same shit all the time. I think there's a larger conversation about why it's not sticking. And since certain things have happened surrounding her name, it's hard to get her to come across to the audience.

See, when it comes to the image thing, right, and that— this is weird, like Cardi don't have a wide array of things that she speaks about conceptually, but all of that shit—

but as a player, okay, carry on.

Okay, and I was about to say, but Cardi will also— Cardi got songs where she's singing on the record.

Yeah, she got some, she got some different shit.

Yeah, she, she has some, some level of—

As of late, maybe I'll agree with you.

Just let me finish my point.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Go ahead, go ahead.

Conceptually, lyrically, she ain't all over the place.

This is what I'm doing.

What she just did on Don't Chart is the same thing that I get from Cardi. You bitches are scared, I'll fuck y'all up, I got Birkins, your man want to fuck me, I'm that bitch, this ass, these titties. But when you see her outside of music, whatever story she painting, whether it be on socials or through, uh, uh, integration she's doing, it matches. All of that crazy, crazy breakup with Offset, album title, yo, is it my drama?

Is it my fault?

Is it my fault? Fucking Stefon Diggs, this new nigga that she running around with. I don't have an opinion on what she's doing romantically. What I'm saying is the picture matches the words.

She finds a way to tie it in.

She does.

With Meg, it's tough for me to hear this. It's tough for me to hear her pop it like that now.

Like, even Latto—

on, on Latto's album, she's popping it from the newly married, I just had a baby, my, I'm my man, I love my man, my man. That's how she sounds. It matches.

And you see it.

With Meg, the popping it is all I'm saying.

Like, it's tough for you to pop it a certain way and then say, Klay Thompson gave me anxiety dealing with him.

Do you think that disconnect there is affecting the music sales, big picture?

Well, I can't speak for the sales because I don't know that she was ever a huge—

Or engagement from the fans.

Seller of music. I look at Meg like she's a huge driver of I just don't know that that inventory is music.

Hmm.

Okay.

Just came off of Broadway, so it's not like she's not in demand in some type of degree.

Of course she is.

People are still wanting to work with her and, and see her.

Oh no, she's a brand, darling. Be clear.

Yeah.

So you don't see a season of Love Island without Meg now. Like, and that's, and that's a hit show. I'm not just like— be clear, Meg moves some numbers for somebody, and they are willing to work with her for that reason. I'm just saying in terms of the music, I personally, it's nothing that's been dropping that's gonna make a per— I always said she could rap, but I was— I'm not Meg, Meg, Meg Hive. I'm not a fan.

Mm-hmm.

You— I can acknowledge somebody's skill, but just say, hey, the music is just cool. All right. I haven't heard anything that has me like, oh shit. All right. I gotta run to this. That's, that's, that's just for me.

Okay.

That's it.

Almost like a fire feature artist. Like, if the song says featuring Meg, she on that girl song now. She tearing that shit up.

She'll clean you up on a record. Yeah, niggas too. She'll clean you up.

Go Meg. Let's wait and see. Let's wait and see if an album is coming. Let's wait and see if a single is coming.

And keep dropping the freestyles and the visuals with it too.

Tapping into the Team Snow vibe.

More visuals. More visuals, please.

Y'all niggas be— I'm just saying.

I mean, she does look great.

She looks amazing.

Come on, man. Uh, what else, what else, what else? Let's fight, let's fight about something.

You said the Gunna joint, you brought it up.

That ain't me and Ice's fight though. We, we saving up, we saving the fight.

Y'all gotta fight?

Yeah, we gotta fight. We gotta fight over the Offset record and his opinion versus my opinion. He keep trying to talk about all these other drops.

I forgot, I'm like, what the fuck, we gotta fight over Offset.

No, get Gunna out the way.

We can lead up to it, okay?

Let you get your talking points together.

Pop it, is that what I'm looking for?

Let's pop it.

All right, let's go, Gunna. Let's see what Gunna got going on. Going on.

I like the way it came on too. Like, I was like, okay, okay. So once he got here, I was like

Wait, we're at the hook again.

Uh, it's cool, it's cool.

I don't know, it didn't do anything for me.

Yeah, it didn't do much for me.

It's nothing you haven't heard before.

Yeah, I feel like I've heard it before. I literally felt like I've heard this before.

I think I've heard— I was trying to go back back to one of the last 2 albums, I'm almost certain it almost felt like that he reused the beat damn near.

The beat is what I think. This sounds very familiar, recycled even.

But this is the first record I looked at it. This is under Gunna Music. Yeah, he's off of, uh, you know, he's on his own, it appears to be. It don't even show a distribution under it, it just says Gunna Music. So, you know, we'll see what— we'll see where it goes.

Yeah, for sure.

Congratulations, Gunna.

Yeah, congratulations. Congratulations. Now what's the Offset for you? Let's get to it.

Let's go play the record.

Uh, Every Night.

Every Night.

Yeah, featuring Don Toliver.

Yeah, yeah, any Don Toliver on it.

Yeah, no, he did.

Any Don Toliver on it too. Nah, don't try to agree with me. Fuck out of here. Let's go.

Try to get wet like ocean breeze. Take her down, she don't want to go or leave.

Call her my—

call her my phone.

Baby girl know we grown.

Shot a little thick off the bone.

Thinking about her when I get home.

I love when you get on your knees. I'm trying to get right in between. Your attitude be a little mean. Be mad at no cause of a scene.

She say I'm I think that's enough for us to have our fight, man.

We don't need this whole record. That's enough for us to have our fight. I'm not gonna let you have it.

Fight.

Uh, that's my first time hearing that. I didn't love it, but he absolutely—

I didn't love it either.

Wait, wait a minute, you—

your fight was that you like this record?

No. Okay.

Oh, I thought—

even though I do like the record.

I thought that's what your fight was.

I do, I do like the record.

Okay, what's your— what's your fight?

My fight with Freeze— well, I'll let Freeze give his opinion on the record first.

I don't like this record. That's my opinion. I do not like this record.

I don't think that Freeze could not like this record loving the Quavo album.

I think he's full of shit. I didn't say I I love the Quavo album. I said I like the Quavo album and I appreciate the Quavo album.

I think if he likes the Quavo album, he should like this record.

Well, why don't you like this record first? Why you don't like the song?

I don't like this Quavo album.

'Cause he's a buster.

No, you just like this shit 'cause you trying to be cool with Offset so he don't run down on you.

I'm already in the hole on Offset.

Why would Offset be running down on me?

Could you be—

What happened?

I missed it. Nothing happened. You good.

Did I do something to Offset?

No, you made sure not to. That's my point. Let me finish my, uh, take.

I almost snuffed all 3 of them niggas, man. I ain't you, nigga.

We saw them.

I ain't you. I think you got me confused. He telling me I was like, he got to put the glasses on.

He had to get his glasses. They got the AI now.

I almost slid them. What a nigga horn-ass about, nigga?

His back was little.

Yeah, watch yourself, nigga. Remember who the fuck you talking to at all times, nigga. Yeah, I know. I made them niggas stand up in unison and zip them blouses up. You motherfuckers, sit up.

Yeah, I made—

yeah, I almost wrinkled that silk. The fuck is these niggas talking about? Your fucking mouth.

Oh shit.

I just think that Offset is doing— I think that him and Quavo kind of are doing something similar. I just think Offset is doing a way better job at it with the previous record.

See, I don't think they're doing that in this record. I don't think they're doing anything similar.

I know, because you think all of this falls under the Migos sound.

No, no, no, no, not at all, not at all. I don't— I think both of them are stepping out of the Migos sound. I'll appreciate that. I could say that I appreciate the attempt of Offset even trying this record. Like, I— do I want to hear Offset singing a sexual record? No, I don't. Uh, Don Toliver killed it. I would have preferred this as a Don Toliver song. I would have absolutely loved this as a Don Toliver, just Don Toliver solo record. Um, but again, I can appreciate the attention.

It's still gonna be a Don Toliver solo record.

No, I'm not gonna do that. It's just too short.

I don't like the flip.

Yeah, I didn't like it.

I don't like nothing about it. I like it.

I don't. And they're both dope.

Yeah, I like both of them, but this is—

I really wish Offset would get kind of back to, um, what was the single he had with, um, homie from Atlanta? With JID.

With JID.

Yes.

I want him to get back to that. That album, that album and that vibe.

Yes.

I want him to stick to that. Give me more of that. Don't, don't get him to this other shit.

Yeah, keep showing these niggas that you rap.

And don't get me wrong, I can, I can see a world where when this plays at Starlets or Dream or somewhere.

That's all I'm saying. I can at least picture where that record can be played.

Yes, I get it.

And worked, especially with the proper working of the record. I can hear that.

that.

I don't all the way love Offset's part.

Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

But it's playable.

Yeah.

And especially when Don Toliver is on the end doing that. You're gonna— they're gonna get through that part to hear Don do that at the end. I'm not mad at this record. I'm looking forward to the Offset shit. I'm not—

Me too. I love the last one.

I'm always looking forward to his project, but just as this song, I'm cool.

Yeah, I'm not—

this one ain't for me.

That wasn't a big argument.

No, it wasn't a fight.

No, it wasn't a big fight.

He just hate that Quavo album. Yo, yo, nigga would have slid you, yo. Nah, all the way down that carpet for that one, yo.

Complex ain't even had no, no security or nothing ready for that.

They needed security from him.

No, they didn't.

Migos security jumped up on some shit because they was scared of Joe.

That's what— I'm glad you saw the video.

I've seen— I mean, I watched it intensely. The only threat—

Any videos of y'all stepping in y'all business? Yeah, yeah. Any videos of that?

Yeah, look at him going right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Look, look, look.

Pull your jets.

Wait, is that on the dark web?

On YouTube.

This video of me floating.

Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.

Don't take much.

This nigga go.

Nah, that's funny though. That's funny.

Oh man, that's what I was doing.

Oops. The way he flips that laptop on That mean he mean it.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, shit serious now, goddamn it. You know, pissed me off.

Nah, you funny. Oh shit, you know what that reminds me of? You ever seen a housewife check the mail?

What?

What?

What the fuck?

I guess probably, yeah.

Did you ever just— no, 'cause you just reminded me of that with your little— did you ever just look at any housewife check the mail?

I suppose I have.

They check the mail And I'm saying they, but I'm really talking about my girl. They check the mail like it's the Michael Jordan Flu Game. They check the mail like the house will fall apart if they don't— they don't get to this mail. If they don't check the mail. She is focused on the mail, like stress level, folks. Oh, this bill gotta be paid, this bill gotta be paid, this bill, this bill, look at this bill right here. Oh my God, this bill gotta be done, this is overdue right here, this bill, this bill, this bill.

this bill.

And I'm just watching, I'm like, you say all that like you got to pay the bills.

How is that? Cuz you don't fuck with the mail, huh?

You don't fuck with the mail. She say that like she got to get up and go to work.

It's like, oh, all right, she's keeping the house together.

That's why— that's a job.

She like, oh my God, here, here, take Hey, hey, yeah, I had to tell you, you know, I don't check the mail. I don't give people access to me this way. She handed me shit. All that mail say— the shit with my name on it— it say very urgent, very important, must read now.

Scam, scam, scam.

None of it is urgent or important.

Anything that is urgent, I already got an email about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know how to find me.

Yeah, you want a trip to Indonesia?

Freeze, I didn't hear this Big Xa Plug record.

Yo, yeah, I love Big Xa Plug. He's, he's probably one— he's definitely one of my favorite. I'm gonna hit play just because, uh, yes, Big Xa Plug, Burn, featuring Ava Max.

That's what it sound like.

That's it.

Yo, I love Big X Blow.

That's fire.

They true colors ain't they skin.

See, when you helping hand, they rooting for you, they want you to win.

When shit get wicked, they gonna stab your back and always bite your hand.

But you the man that vows to say the world a stupid plan. Since you can take them to the water and they still wouldn't understand.

Can't fool me twice, these next statements I make would not be nice. But they gonna take it how they want it, either way I'm never right.

He might, he might be one of my favorites out right now. Like, 6WA is still one of my favorites.

Albums of the year.

That's something. That shit, that's still— that's number one for me.

He makes good songs too.

He can make a song.

He makes really good songs.

He makes good songs every single time. Yeah. And he can rap well. Like, it's not like—

yes. And he's saying something. Like, that record is real shit that you dealing with fucking friends you thought was your friends and all. Like, he's speaking on real shit. Relatable.

What you said, Mom?

What'd you say?

I heard you, girl.

Like, in interviews, it comes off like a really like nice guy. Yeah, I don't think people— that's like a lost art, being charming in an interview. Yeah, so charming people watch you and say, let me check him out, right? People don't even know how to do that. People get an interview and alienate themselves and get canceled, you know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah.

Shout out to Big X. Album is coming out, uh, end of the month.

Yeah, 30th. And I will be purchasing.

Oh, for sure.

I feel like big niggas. Damn me, I said I'd do a big nigga quick. Is he married? Yeah, I take a big nigga down. Quit.

Take him through there.

I mean, why ask if he's married if you play around like—

When the fuck did I say I played around like that?

She was younger.

She's not doing that today though.

It was her backsliding days.

I didn't ask you or Imani how recent it was that y'all did that.

But it was.

Both of y'all tried to make it sound like, oh, in my 20s.

I promise.

Just know I feel like it was like recently for both of y'all? March 20th.

I promise y'all, I'm totally against it.

It was a few months ago.

No, I have not fucked nobody man in years.

Like, how many years?

No, not nobody man, husband.

We don't, we don't even need to fuck. I've only, I've only fucked somebody's husband once, and I didn't know that it was the shit for marriage. Stop fucking making it worse. Like, I'm fucking—

but it was a long time.

It was a long time ago.

I promise you, fucking 15 years ago.

All right, that's a minute. It was a long time ago. It was 15 years ago.

He didn't feel good about it.

Yeah, he didn't like that. He ain't like that shit.

It was a year ago.

Let's get his answer, y'all.

When I moved back to New York, uh, like 2022.

2 days ago, basically.

'21, '22.

Yeah.

Okay, I'm sorry that happened to you.

Yeah, man.

Congrats.

I knew it.

Yo, what's up with you? Yo, why you always What's up?

What's up, Joe?

Hey, Joe.

What's happening, Joe Budden?

All right, what, what's up?

Fucking suspense is killing us.

Yeah, all right, it's gonna be you, yo.

Yo, you gonna be the reason.

When you think it was?

You gonna be the reason I stay single, yo. This is my boy right here.

I'm telling you, yo.

He's saying 2022.

22.

I say it might have been 21. Like, he might have been— he might have sped it up somewhere around there, man.

Um, let's see.

Uh, brand new Joyce Rice.

Okay.

Hey, oh, this movie is shit.

Come on, bass line.

Joyce Rice, this record is called Dangerous. I want to say this is track 3.

Uh-oh, she got a whole album.

Yes, the album is called Machiko.

Oh, I didn't know that.

M-A-C-H-I-K-O. Let's go.

Everybody's complicated. Why am I the first to say?

This record's called Dangerous.

I like this.

Yeah, this shit's hard. Let's go, Joyce.

What's her name?

Joyce.

Oh yeah. Yes, sir.

Sound like Imani in the background.

That fire.

All right, so yeah, that's Dangerous off Joyce Rice's, uh, brand new album Machiko. I'm also gonna play this Matt Keane feature.

She got a record with Ol' Dillz.

This record is called— yeah, that record is hard too. This record is called On Time, just so you know how she carrying it.

Anyway, this record is called On Time.

I bought this album.

Featuring Matt King. Matt King, shout out to Matt. Joyce Rice, this project is great. Shout out to you. Salute, friend of the show, friend of the show.

Hey, you know what you should do?

She should drop a video for every song.

Yeah, I'd love that. Yeah. Yo, no, no, that like a visual album.

I think that'd be great.

I think that's a great idea.

That horny never sees color.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know what she look like.

Victoria, what's her name?

They should do— oh, that's Victoria.

What she looks like. I don't see beauty, I just hear good music.

Like a visual album would be great.

Yeah.

Oh, shut up, these guys.

Joyce Rice, we love you. Shout out to you and congratulations on your new project. Well deserved.

Well, last week we forgot to get to, uh, Wale and, uh, Styles P. Freestyle. So I want to give Wale's, uh, Talk to Me freestyle.

Smoke this, this shit right here.

Shout out to Olivia too.

How my heaven just dissolved. 2 below, cloud 11. I could see us through forever. Now you moving like you got new endeavors. I never thought you would incision these scars. I gotta move, but I'm in the sand. I gotta perform, so gotta pretend. The world in my palms, my heart in your hand. The both of us dropping was not in the plan. So now would you do me this favor? Would you tell me that you really care?

'Cause I feel like a fool in the mirror.

I'm reflecting and you wasn't there. I know that I'm lonely and rich, I know who really cares. It's women who pray on me who don't be praying. It's overly over, I do understand. But what make me look stupid is you don't look sad or nothing, chilling and posting whatever. You nonchalant and I'm all out of hang on my suffer. Try to give you what I had, I thought it was mutual. You were just playing, you blocked me. Talk to me, talk to me. Was motivated at the thought that you out with me. Talk to me, talk to me. The dark nights that it need, need me saving. I'm probably that villain. He smoked this.

He smoked that shit.

He found a pocket, like a—

Yeah, ain't no easy shit to rap over that tempo.

Yeah, and he killed it. I don't know where it's like— I want to say it was the Everything Is a Lot album. He tapped deeper into like this girl relationship relatable— I mean, he's always had them raps, but it's like he's staying there now.

Yeah, right.

I loved every one he Yeah, and it's just like, he's an elite songwriter. He's an elite songwriter.

He's one of those people that I don't even consider just a rapper at this point. He's just an amazing songwriter who just happens to rap amazing.

He wasn't gonna stop till he had Meek all the way wiped down. Wale ain't never gonna say it. Hey, Wale, you did it, bro.

Stop, man.

Huh? Hey, y'all, you ain't shit.

Why you gotta do that?

Why you gotta bring that into it?

do with it. It didn't have to.

That's why they had one of those diehard fan bases, like, they stick with him no matter what he dropped.

They buy it. I'm among those people. He got a huge cult following. I'm like, yeah, we up there though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Card-carrying members.

Yeah, a few months.

Shout out to Wale.

Shout out to Wale.

Why you not fucking with it?

What? Fucking what? There's something song. Yeah, Wale don't make corny shit. That's just how he is. I'm not like a huge Wale fan, but he doesn't make corny music. Yeah, like, and it's always nice to listen to. It's never like, you know.

Yeah, yeah.

A few months ago I came in here and said that, uh, lyricism— there's a few things missing from current lyricism, like wordplay and all those things. I wasn't counting Wale.

Yeah, there's a handful of people.

I thought that was like by default. I didn't have to say Yeah, Wale, that Chance album gave me that. There's some of y'all out there that are doing it.

They're still doing it.

Yeah, a handful.

A hand.

Yeah, yeah, maybe 2 handfuls.

Gotta salute Styles. Styles shit too.

Come on.

Over to Fat Joe.

Shout out Pusha and Crack. Reflect on the days when I was pushing the crack. Any rapper pull I'm pushing this shit back. Say some dumb shit like you looking to get smacked. Is all of these niggas rich or all of these niggas bitch?

Circle jerk rappers just all on each other's dick.

I'm headed up the hill, I could finish niggas' career. They say the wrong verse, I could finish niggas' veneer.

Rolling while I'm driving, I'm using my knee to steer. If I'm headed to the woods, well, it's probably to beat the bear.

You know I got the fire, you ready to meet the flare? Body hit the ground, your soul Soul drip in the air, I never needed a gun. You funny like Naked Gun. Half G rap, half native tongue. Since your man bought the sticks, well, I hope he playing the drums. It's Alpha Stage Ghost, you niggas is Peter Won. In the streets, I got the juice. With the bars, I got the juice. Double entendre, the truth and the truth. I could steal roof niggas, then throw them off the roof. About the top 10, tell them bring a plus Goddamn.

Goddamn.

Think about your life, gotta give you the keys again. Money, power, respect, niggas bring the heaters in.

May I bring the cooler in?

Big bag of ice just to put your medulla in. KG, Minnesota Timberwolves maneuvering, ride like an Uber in the streets.

I got the juice.

Yo, shout out to Styles P, man.

That shit right there.

He did. Styles, most underrated rapper to me, man.

One of the best ever.

He's one of the best rappers, period.

Yeah, period.

That shit is amazing.

I don't think that's true no more.

Underrated?

I think—

I think it's still—

I still did. It's still—

you still don't be making people listen to what he's saying.

He has great albums too.

He has great albums.

Great. When people talk about how people are rated, I mean, I guess for me, I always go to what your peer group thinks.

Well, that's true.

Oh, true.

That's true.

I don't really take it to fanfare.

That's true.

Yeah.

And even though it's a lot of fans that I'm sure agree, amongst his people, the rappers, there's people that you met like the Redmans, the, the, the Monches, the Styles that we know are elite, top-tier Jedi niggas.

But when we start talking to have the broader conversations, they get to, uh, tend to get left out.

Yeah, exactly.

Styles ain't never gonna sound bad.

Ever. Ever.

None of them.

None of them.

Yeah, none of them. None of them.

None of them. You absolutely right. That shit was crazy.

I ain't gonna front, I'm— Def Jam, we was talking about Wale, and then I got to thinking about the Leon Thomas record that I love off his last album.

I don't know, Def Jam, they fucked that up. They fucked that up in terms of promoting it. Like, there was a lot of talk of after it drops they'll start putting money into it and shit, but it's a great album and and it did, in my opinion, didn't get the promotion that it deserved.

The album.

The album didn't.

Yeah, to me.

And that, and that was one of—

that was a great album.

Yeah.

Oh, you talking about Wale's album?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

This a smash.

Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute. I don't know what's going on over there. I'm not doing it again so they can start calling my phone, but whatever the budget was to get this thing on and popping, they didn't do it.

It was short.

And like I said, remember I came in here and told y'all, I got phone calls like, yo, the new, the new, uh, what is it, the new, the new way we do shit is the album drop and then we come in afterwards and that's the button. I heard y'all ain't do that.

I heard that and they didn't do it.

Y'all didn't do that. I mean, granted, I know they serviced this direct, the radio. Like I said, I listened to the radio.

I saw when it was spiking up the charts.

Yeah, I did hear it.

That was when it was being worked and serviced. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think Work It Work It, not with this, because this is an easy Grammy walkaway winner.

That's easy.

Our record labels— and listen, I'm a dinosaur, so excuse me, I don't know what they are and aren't doing anymore.

Yeah.

But back in my day, the record labels used to make the—

have the—

or not make, have the artists go city to city and just have dinner or lunch with every DJ in that town.

Yep.

Then there would be DJ conventions.

Yeah.

That as an artist you had to go to, to where if you had something that you felt could get bubbling, that's how you got it bubbling when the label wouldn't spend all the money they were supposed to spend.

Right.

'Cause I got that same— I have this same critique of—

A lot of records.

Oh, uh, Caresha Spinnett with Def Jam, actually.

Actually, she's on Def Jam.

I don't know, that's it. That's Def Jam.

I'm pretty sure that's Def Jam.

Nah, we gotta check that.

You can check it. I'm a professional. Yo, y'all look up what you need to look up. Go use your Googles.

Stop playing with the podcast.

Yeah, pull your encyclopedia up, nigga. Them blouses almost got dirty that day.

Uptown Records, a division of UMG.

Damn.

Okay. No.

Yeah, nigga, exactly like we said.

Okay, you did your research. You good.

sometimes. But anyway, what I'm, what I'm saying about her—

Uptown Records. Oh, okay.

Yeah, Uptown Records came back.

I didn't know that.

Uptown Records came back. They, they have a roster of artists and that includes Caresha.

Right, right. Okay.

But I just feel like Spin That should have been longer. Yeah, I think they dropped the ball.

The remixes.

Yep, the remixes would drop.

That's what, that's what they—

the remix was a record label mistake. I ain't spoke to nobody up there. I just know what that mistake sounds like. You can hear it.

You can hear it.

That was a— that sounded like they lit— no disrespect, but that sounded like they listened to her, cuz I could see her wanting Kodak, Lil Baby on this record. I don't think that's like her fighting for that. No, I need Kodak. I'm Miami, he's Kodak, this and, and Lil Baby. I could, I could hear That being her decision.

Or a weird analytic decision. It seems like there wasn't a, for lack of a better term, adult, like, long-tenured professional who does this A&R type in the room to be like, no, let's go this way.

Yeah, I agree.

What analytics, again, no disrespect, is gonna say those 2 names on your big record in 2023?

I can see that they could look and say—

She's from Florida.

Kodak is from Florida.

Yeah, but they had to have looked at the numbers. That ain't moving.

I agree. I'm— we saying that I'm sure—

oh, there are some analytics that will support it.

Yeah, in her top market, when they see Florida as the number one place playing this record, that part, let's go to Kodak. Same with Atlanta is my number 2.

Could another part of not putting women on it be that they, they didn't want to have other women get on the record and outshine her on this moment?

I don't think so.

No, I don't think so.

I, I think, I think more so So I think more so it'll be not having to pick a side between certain, certain, certain— these women on here now, it's a problem over here. Got it. So we just gonna stay away from all the women.

What'd you say, girl?

What'd she say?

What'd you say? I was listening. What'd she say?

What the fuck she say? Yo, y'all, this nigga been trolling me all episode long. Wait, what happened? I got the headphones on. You got the headphones on, you can hear her. Well, no, I listen to women.

Oh, shit.

Oh, which is—

yo, I might say something, I start to say something, y'all be all the way in the conversation, this nigga go real low and go, I heard you, I heard you, I stand with you.

Gotta say that because when the paperwork—

yep.

All right, yo, all right, yo, the paper.

Yeah, I just think that that's been the shit of the last— it's fucked up as an artist. Like, Caresha been through all that shit. I'm just thinking as You go through everything, you finally get one that everybody loves, you turn the awards on and everybody's singing it, and then a month later—

I think what's happening, and I think I've mentioned this before, I think all the major labels are doing now is being just distro deals. And in those deals, they're not gonna do nothing.

We're not working shit.

They're not really gonna work your shit.

We're not working this shit.

They might, you know, same way with Empire back in the day, like if there's something that really connects, maybe Maybe they'll put a little, little bit into it, but they're not gonna go like how a label really, really goes into it. They're gonna— they're only getting their 20% or 15% or 10%. They're not going that hard.

So can I ask a question?

They should.

You know how Joe said, like, almost like, what happened to the thing? Because back in the day we used to— we would go sit with the DJs. If radio is a dying industry—

It's not.

I don't think it is. It's not.

It's not.

I don't think radio is dying, and it's super important. for artists to get their records on radio still. It's financially more valuable than all these streams.

Radio's not dying?

No, no, no, not really.

Especially not FM radio.

Nope, not really. It might not hold the cultural importance that podcasts do and like that it used to, but it's probably— in terms of listenership, people still listen to radio.

Yeah, yeah.

Like I said, you hear me, you hear me, I listen to the radio every single morning.

A lot of people—

Where are you at, in the car?

He's in the car. Radio on heat.

Yeah. Okay, you— okay, that—

okay, he can't help himself. Wait, what'd I say bad?

You said I listen to the radio every day. I said he's the radio's audience. We agree.

It's the tone in which you said it.

That put it in perfect perspective.

It sounded offensive.

No, it makes you understand, right?

I, I took it like you were saying like Ice is one of them niggas on the radio.

It sounded like you wanted to say bitch after it.

Like, yeah, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that people that listen to the radio, you could tell them.

See, see, you could, you could see exactly who's mad loud. We can see who they are.

I'm just curious.

I have children, so I don't play my music, so I just cut the radio.

Okay.

And you ain't listen to no kids by me either?

No.

Okay.

They know their songs, and it's heavy.

That's what I'm saying.

Do you have a preferred station?

Yeah.

What you listen to?

Didn't you just go to the— what concert they threw it up for?

Summer Jam?

No, not Summer Jam, the other one.

2B?

I mean, uh, yeah, the other one, the recent one, not Summer Jam.

It was Summer Jam.

That was Summer Jam.

It was one after Summer Jam.

Damn.

Yeah, that one.

Oh, the R&B one.

Yeah, Bryson Tiller, um, uh, Tame Impala.

Not Tame Impala. I love Tame Impala. Who was that over there? Magic Jordan.

I know, I know what he trying to get to.

Leave Magic Jordan alone.

Leave him alone, bro. This nigga diabolical.

It's fucked up what happened to Magic Jordan. I fuck with them niggas. They dope, man.

Yo, I said they performed, um, Just Hold On, I'm Coming Home. Joe said, no, they didn't.

Are we done in music? I don't have any more music.

She did drop a new record. Uh, I think it's called F.U.

Who did?

Cheri Jason.

Pull it up!

She did drop a new record.

Oh, shit. I didn't even see this.

I didn't see it either.

There's a video out for it as well. I feel like she's kind of throwing shots at some of you niggas who doubted her.

Oh, she got a couple.

She got me all in the comments.

Commercial, Dallas.

100%, nigga.

Yeah, nigga, watch what you say.

If it was up, it's still the same bitch, same gutter bitch, rich but ain't change shit. Put my whole hood on, hating hoes came with it. Talk it down on a hoe the fuck, bitch. Conversations with the Henny in my cup, should I? The way you shining crazy across the club, should I? The way you showing hate, don't show no love, bitch. If you say it's up, then it's up, bitch.

Fuck you.

If you ain't never got it out the mud, I can't trust you. Winning makes amends for the pain and the suffering. Red cup type of night, so if it's up, it's up. Damn, Daniel Foe with Carisha. Now Miami don't fuck with you. Still the same bitch, same gutter bitch. Rich, but I ain't change shit. Put my whole hood on. Hating hoes came with it. Talk it down on the house. Fuck, I'm a mummy.

I'm a—

I'm gonna shoot it. This is the first and last time I'll ever do this. Oh, they don't have it. I was really curious to hear what the clean version sounded like.

Nah, we good.

This is a remix of Gotti's song Fuck You. We all know that, correct?

I mean, he—

Cam did it before.

A lot of people, a lot of people have done that flip.

No, but this is Gotti's. This is Gotti's for facts.

Like, for real.

Y'all don't know the song?

I know the song. Yes, yes, yeah.

It's a good flip.

It's a good—

it's a Flip.

good flip. Yeah, I like it.

I like how it sounds.

That record's hard. Yeah, I think one bad nigga's gonna have to eat their words.

A lot of people counted out, man. She kind of telling niggas like, yeah, fuck y'all, nigga. Cop this album, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Come to the show, nigga. Come see me.

Not me.

Not me.

Not me. Not once.

Not ever.

You had all the faith, right? Mad Faith. Still got it.

That's peace.

Faith, that's peace, that's hope, that's everything.

I wanna see what JT team has been thinking now though.

Oh, bro, messy ass team.

I'm just here for the mess, nigga.

I love JT.

Me too, but she's— Caresha dropping heat, so we gotta see what's going on. Let me not be a messy bitch.

I feel like JT been doing something different lately though. She been making a lot of music for the gays.

didn't know that. I guess Marcus, I'm not gay enough.

Like, they haven't been making the same kind of music lately. It's the truth. They're not even in each other lane right now.

Okay, okay.

There was something that, uh, Mark, Imani, and Ice wanted to let us know about Jeremy Lamb. I'm, I'm interested to hear that.

Yo, use us.

I see Jeremy Lamb's name written up there on the board. I have no idea what Jeremy Lamb is the former Georgetown player who was, uh, drafted and then he retired. Played for the Thunder for a long time. Yeah, then he played on Thunder. Then he was working with the Kings in their front office. Uh, was also rumored to be messing with the daughter of somebody over there in the Kings organization.

Oh, Jeremy Fly Guy Lamb.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, Jeremy Lamb.

I'm a big fan of Jeremy Lamb. He's one of my favorite 2K players.

But why is he on the board? What, what did Imani Ison and Mark—

Oh no, Mark was out. Oh, Mark was out.

I wrote it on the board because you said write Jeremy Lamb's name on the board.

Oh no, shit, no, pass that buck, pass that buck.

I definitely didn't say that.

Well, Jeremy Lamb has been making the news, uh, for the last few days because, uh, he posted a couple of selfies.

Okay.

Oh, nothing wrong with that.

What's wrong with selfies?

Love a good selfie.

I love selfies.

And the new iPhone dropped with the new camera.

Yeah, it's a good—

And I think, uh, the internet was playfully teasing him for Or the, uh—

What type of selfies was it? Was it like Al Sharpton selfies?

That's the best selfie of all time.

More like Brittany Sharpton. Let me, let me, let me, let me pull it up and just show you that way.

Wait, what did you say? He said more like Brittany Sharpton. 'Cause his daughter's a porn star or something?

Who?

Who?

That's Laurence Fishburne, man.

What?

Wait, what? What is happening?

Nothing. I think we all need a nap. I think we need naps, y'all.

Y'all said he was looking like Brittany Charles. I don't know if I get it, man.

All right, so what—

so here's the picture so I can get your reaction so you don't have to just rely on me. Here you go. You see it now?

I don't see it, Mark. Oh yeah.

I can't see it. Could you explain what's funny?

Yeah, I'll show— I'll turn it, make it closer to you.

Oh, he's working out.

He's in the gym.

He's back working out.

He pigeon-toed it.

Oh, he's back working out.

He bowlegged.

Monie, your dude sends you this picture, how do you respond?

Oh, you nigga, come on now. Come on now. If a nigga that I'm fucking sends this picture, uh-huh, I don't even want to think about it. That's how devastating it is.

But what's— what goes through your mind?

Because I immediately know he's a homosexual at that moment.

That's not fair.

So that's not fair.

That's not— he's pitching, so he's bowling.

Don't want her.

Yes, I can't send—

so we all disagree with that, Mona.

His big toes touching, I'm wrong for being the fuck alarm? My nigga sending a picture of a selfie that he cocked his head like this, like I do, put his toes together, poked his ass out. and took a picture, and I'm wrong for being alarmed? Fuck y'all for being—

Maybe it was a hard workout and he's just sore.

Yo, I can't do that.

It might have been leg day.

This is gay.

Yo.

We're all too motherfucking PG around here. This is gay. There ain't no way in the motherfucking world. Literally, immediately, I'm devastated when I see my baby dad do some shit like this.

Well, so, so—

I'm automatically doing damage control trying to figure out if my people seen it. No, Mark, I'm not done looking.

Okay.

Oh no, there's a video.

There's a video. I was trying to zoom in. Is he being interviewed?

Now, is that the same conclusion that y'all came to?

I just seen these for the first time.

I only wrote it on the board because he said to.

Hey, um, so his feet doing this.

Hey, listen, so then he did an interview talking about when he first got to Georgetown. Do you, do you have it, Parks?

No, I don't have that one saved in my cookies.

Well, that's right, cookies.

I'm gonna give you these cookies right now.

Oh! Hey, yo.

They his, not mine, shit.

Passing cookies now?

All right.

I'm comfortable with that.

Look at Mark nails looking good. When was your last manicure?

That's what you said.

I get a manicure every week. I just—

We got it. We know, buddy. I literally weighed like £165. And this man was like, yo, you gotta get stronger. Yeah.

£165 is insane, bro.

I mean, I was—

he's the lady talker.

I was trying, but he's like, yo, get stronger, motherfucker.

I'm like, damn.

Oh, you're just judging him because he had painted nails.

No, I thought it was Brittney Griner. It was actually—

nah, he looked like— nah, that was a good— no, that's a good comparison. That nigga get— look, yes, listen, you did that. I'm telling you. No, for real, he look a little bit like a gay.

I don't wanna speculate. I think it's improper for us to speculate on his identity.

That's true.

I'm not saying he gay, I'm saying he look gay. And I'm saying if that was my man, I would be alarmed.

You said, and I repeat—

His toes is kissing!

You said, and I repeat, that is a homosexual.

That's what you said.

If I didn't know him, I would guess he was a homosexual. If it was my man, I would be alarmed.

That's Pete.

I would instantly ask him to take it down if he didn't. I would have to break his— get his phone and start blocking my family members for everybody know I'm fucking a homosexual. So that shit hitting the group message, bitches is sitting there too. You see the Mona nigga on Twitter, his motherfucking feet kissing his toes, kissing like that. Why he got his ass tooted out like that? And his hip, he got his hip all poked the fuck out. I would whoop somebody's ass. My nigga's getting attacked for that physically and y'all being funny about it. I'm serious. That's— don't disrespect me like that. You can see You can secretly be gay, but don't put it on the internet. Come on, man.

See, I don't know where you go from there. See what you did?

See what you did?

That's good for you. See, I thought y'all was going to ask about his religion, and it don't matter because at the first it's just gonna say Joe Budden. I don't care.

No, I know what y'all was doing.

Y'all, y'all trying to get to the next topic.

Imani said write it on the board.

Imani ain't say shit.

And do the same pose he did.

I actually think it's kind of dope. All jokes aside, I think it's dope.

Do it.

Do the pose.

What you think is dope about him, Martin?

I'm about to tell you. I think it's dope that whoever he is, whatever he is, forget his sexuality for a minute, just how he's talking, his nails, pigeon-toed stance, all that. I think it's good that he feels comfortable being himself in public. And I think when you're in the NBA, you can't do that. You know, I remember Phil Jackson told me— me and Phil Jackson argued about this for like, like, he argued back and forth.

He always gotta talk about when he know people important.

No, no, it was an interview.

It was.

I don't know. him. We did an interview.

The fact that he taking this stance and he the one that brought this shit up is crazy.

He serving us up.

He served y'all up.

When he the person that came in here—

Mo' launches homophobic rant against Jeremy. He came in here with the phone and said, you see this gay-ass nigga?

That's what he said.

The joke line is at 4 o'clock PM. I'm not even gonna be able to get to it till tomorrow.

I wouldn't do that because I'm an ally.

First, cut everything out I said about him.

Nah, I thought so.

Seriously though, I mean, it is interesting because—

It was all jokes.

One of the things Phil Jackson said to me, he said, there are no gay NBA players. Um, he argued me down. He said, I've been—

What year was this?

Phil Jackson?

Yes, he argued me down about this.

Phil Jackson? Phil Jackson or a different Phil Jackson?

The tall Phil. Scottie!

What year?

He told me this in 2013.

The nigga that— wait, had Dennis Robinson?

Dennis Robinson was gay.

Dennis Robinson was straight.

Dennis Robinson was fucking up.

And that's my point.

Jeremy Lamb could also be in the same situation.

No, the fuck— no, why the fuck would you do that? Now why would you do that? Why would you just do that?

If I get this to 16 minutes, man, the playoff is much better.

Because that's bullshit what you just did.

No, no, I'm deadass. Wait, Jeremy Lamb can— there are a lot of people in rap, in sports, etc., who perform masculinity in different ways. And when you perform masculinity in different ways, it can look— it can look and show up a lot of ways. And some of it Think about some of your favorite rappers that wear dresses, that wear— that have nails painted, all that stuff. It doesn't mean that they're gay.

It doesn't mean that they're gay, but listen, if you naturally stand and your motherfucking feet twist in like that, you got a better shot at probably— you know what I mean? Let's just move on.

Anyway, the point I was making was—

That's his natural stance, Parks.

I think it's nice to know that—

He works out a lot, baby. He's just sore.

Yeah, he's in the gym.

Leg day.

day. Leg day.

Lunges will take it out of you.

Not a joke.

Like the cleaning jerks.

Yo, fam.

All right, the, the—

what are you saying about Dennis Rodman though?

Uh-oh.

Uh-oh. I think at that point anybody could have been confused by what he was doing. Anybody could have been scared of the world. They set him straight. Same thing with Prince.

Same thing with a lot of people. People could be confused by seeing how they—

oh, you did a 180.

Yeah, I'm not, I'm not saying that he was, but I'm saying you can see someone and assume. Same thing with Jeremy Lamb.

They're not gay. He's Phil Jackson saying nobody's gay in the NBA. Obviously Phil Jackson is wrong. They're gay.

Y'all put Jeremy Lamb name up there because y'all think he looks gay.

That's what Mark did. We put it up there because of the public discourse about it. The social media is attacking Jeremy Lamb. And the point— that's my point. I think it's kind of Interesting that people— I think it's kind of interesting.

Keep working, keep working it.

So the boy didn't delete the picture when he started going viral? He ain't delete it?

No, because he's comfortable in his own skin. That's my point. That's true. I think that's kind of dope. The Sixers had a guy like that before we traded him to OKC, uh, from Duke. Um, he does the TikTok videos. He used to wear just painted nails. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. There are guys who just perform masculinity differently. I love that they NBA is creating more space for that. But it also makes you wonder if, like, when people retire now, are we going to start seeing people, NBA players, show them openly being whoever they are?

Oh, this was your intent when you wrote that on here to have this type of—

He served you up.

Yeah, I know.

He got you, yo.

He's crazy.

Made you say, made you call Dennis Rodman gay.

Now you got to apologize to Dennis Rodman.

No, I think, no, no, you can't apologize.

Rodman's the type of person that'll walk up and sting you.

No, I think so. I think anyone, anyone watches. This the thing though, man, no disrespect.

He averaged like 20 rebounds a game in prime center NBA.

I'm saying anyone could watch what he was doing and make the assumption that he was—

but not you. You didn't make the assumption.

Nobody in the world. Dennis Rodman with a wedding dress on, nobody thought he was—

what's your socials?

Where you gonna be at?

@Joe Budden Podcast.

South Korea.

South Korea? The fuck?

Put E-Mani in like a little chokehold like this.

Let me tell y'all something.

I think— Tell you, niggas in blouses.

Let me tell you something. I think I'm the last person got to worry about getting hemmed up up here.

Who's the first person?

Who the fuck that mean?

Who the first?

Who the first one you mean?

Take y'all picks.

Order, order.

Big or little straw. Say more.

Take y'all picks.

I ain't even mad, cuz I feel like you ain't talking about me. I'mma give it up.

Yeah.

Do y'all have a part of yourselves that your work coworkers would be surprised to know about later on?

The blouses, for sure.

No, no, no, not at all.

Yeah, like, I'm sure— oh, I don't know, I'm not sure. Jamie Lamb could have teammates who played with him back then. Like, Kendrick Perkins could be watching this right now like, oh shit, I didn't realize.

He never knew his feet twisted like that.

Um, that's what I'm saying.

I would say what y'all don't know about me is that I'm extremely soft-hearted and I cry a lot.

Oh, we know that.

Yeah, tears of joy, right?

No, I mean, like, you're soft-hearted. And I've seen you cry.

Mark.

No, no, no, I mean that in a good way.

But you don't have to add that. You keep doing this. I turn my head, you put the comma and say shit.

I don't mean to do that.

Well, let's just wrap it up. That's why I look at you. That's it.

Consider it wrapped up.

But you known for that.

I'm not gonna do that anymore.

Sticky words, you get to put the comma, then you say big words.

As soon as you turn, I'm done. Just like that time on the balcony.

See?

Oh shit.

Look at you.

He's a hoot, this one.

Can we talk about French Montana?

Yeah, sure, gladly.

What's up with French?

Um, he made some headlines and I loved it, by the way. Shout out to French Montana. He was at CultureCon and he was talking about— some people said he had a— he had like a, uh, not a fit, but like, um, what do you call it? Like, what are kids—

tantrum.

Yeah.

And they were saying he was being entitled because, you know, he didn't want to pay. I mean, he, he didn't want to pay for certain clothes. Yeah, he was like, I'm not paying for clothes, brands pay me. You got, you got the cash?

We didn't pay for nothing, man.

You don't want to, you don't want to support, uh, I charge $250,000 to wear stuff.

I am supporting.

Yeah, yeah, I like that.

Yeah, this is at ComplexCon. He's stopping by one of the vendors, sees something he likes.

I appreciate that, man.

We going to tag you when we When we put it on, you gotta learn how to leverage up. When people like me come, we rock the brand, everybody else gonna buy your brand.

Oh yeah, my guy.

We charge people. I charge people to wear it.

Oh yeah.

I come and I support upcoming artists like you, you know what I'm saying? A lot of guys here that I know, I come support them.

I came here to get one sweater because I loved it.

Hell yeah.

Well, it's yours, my guy.

I appreciate it. Oh man, dude, guy had to change your heart.

My guy, all custom.

It's literally—

you'll never find another piece like that.

Look at it though.

Yeah, that's crazy how you got that right there.

I don't manufacture any of this.

Like, I make it all in my house.

Yeah, you got it, big dog.

The most unique.

And the patches and fabrics.

Yo, fam, give me this. Just give me— I got it already. I fuck with you, man. Yo, when somebody say, y'all fuck with you, man, they don't fuck with you at all. They don't fuck with But I did— I love this from French Montana.

Me too.

I ain't mad at him at all.

I don't like it.

Why?

Um, I understand— excuse me— I understand him saying, you know, just wear shit for free.

Huh?

I didn't say he should just wear anything for free. I'm not saying you don't even have to wear it. The guy is just saying— that's like people saying, yo, I, I pay you in the look. Like, there's no guarantee on that one. I'm, I'm, I'm a small business small owner. business. I ain't got it. Yeah, you charge $250. Okay, cool. I might give you this and you never— and I never see it. I don't see anything from it. I'm— I have a product I'm trying to sell here. If you're supporting, at least the way I look at it, if I'm supporting something, I'll pay for the product. I have no problem doing that if I like it. If my goal is to help this brand, then I'm either going to pay for it. If, if they're giving it to me, cool. But if they're not and they're selling something, I'll pay for it if my goal is to help this brand.

Now this kind of goes back to the, the risk conversation. If I'm a small business owner, I don't know when I'm gonna ever get a chance to probably be in front of these people again.

Correct.

I'm gonna take the risk of offering up some free merch in hopes that they do actually wear it because they like it, and they will. And I might even say, hey, listen, this is free. If you do like it, you do wear it, just please Please tag me.

And just leave it at there.

I think that's the risk versus the reward concept instead of just saying, hey, well, buy this because we a Black small business and you wanna make some money.

I'm not saying we would. If you came here, obviously you saw something you liked. 'Cause my thing is— Nah, that's not true. My thing is—

At a con, I don't know if that's exactly true.

That's not true.

I could just go in there just to go look. At a con like this one with vendors.

I could just be looking at shit.

So, okay, all right, well, apparently, I mean, he stopped and had a conversation with the dude. off of somebody.

He probably wanted that shit that he had.

Yeah, that's how I look at it. You wanted that. You saw that. You wanted that. Because my thing is, you got no problem going in.

He did want it.

So, but my problem is, you got no problem going into these well-established Italian brands, spending top dollar, letting niggas know you spent top dollar, and that's no problem.

I wish that—

I wish that line never gets said again up here, because y'all be saying that and don't never know the history of the well-established Italian brand that you're talking about. So it company been there since 1809 and they're known for special leather or whatever the fuck they're— that's very different from the upstart at ComplexCon.

It's very different. But if the company is known from 1809 and you, you claim to be trying to support—

They've established their— they've well established their price point, their customer base.

You don't know shit about the company. You don't know nothing about how they serve the— like, you don't know shit about the company is all I'm what I'm saying. If you trying to help, especially when it's Black or brown owned, and if that's what you're saying, if I'm here, I want to help this company right here, I'm not trying to—

See, this goes back to the, to the conversation we had on Patreon, uh, yesterday.

Yeah, to me, what conversation?

Getting free shit from people. I don't want the free shit. I'll buy the free shit.

Okay, I struggle with it.

I'll tell you, I'm with support, bro.

Um, this is the thing. Right? 'Cause there's levels. First off, them small businesses out there, if you can't afford to take that risk of giving it to a celeb, don't even fucking advertise to famous people. 'Cause famous people used to getting free shit. That's why his attitude is like, when he talks to him, he speaks on a brand giving him this huge amount of money because he was never buying your shirt, which is average famous people. People I'm around, they not buying it. Okay? That's number one. Number two, number 2, when I first started getting numbers behind my name, right, people would say, hey, I like you so much, I want to give you a gift. And I would say, okay, thank you. I would take the sweatshirt, I would wear the sweatshirt without tagging them, and they would DM me and say, you white bitch, the least you could have did was tag me. Because in reality, you didn't want to give me a gift. In reality, you wanted to promote with me.

You wanted some promotion.

And you wanted to do it in a way of you took the least amount of risk, which is just giving me your product. Because in reality, I have a price for that.

Correct.

I have a— when I first come in the door, you could pay me to do my hair, my nails, my feet, and cook for me. From day one, you could do that for me because I understood if I eat this platter, 30 people won't buy the platter. And that's good for you, right?

Right.

But that came from after taking people's shit, posting people's shit all the time, really not getting anything out of it because I am the influencer here. Because when I started, I'm a comic, I'm a podcaster, but I was very much so an influencer. I went viral in 2018. COVID happened in 2020, ain't no shows. I made every dollar I had off of posting people's shit. I think for the most part, the masses don't really understand that sometimes, and they come off almost like, like the French Montanas or the Don't Call Me White Girls are the ones being greedy, when in reality, are you not being greedy when you know? Because in my opinion, right, a good business deal, we both walk off satisfied and happy.

Correct.

Nobody feel like they got robbed.

How are you happy when you made $50,000 and all I made was a sweatshirt? That's not fair, is it? Right. So at the end of the day, it's levels to that shit. And I just feel like when— I think there's a lot of them small brands make a mistake trying to get all celebrities in they shit because that's not your target audience. You fuck with your people, you could do better. And I think, sidebar, assuming that somebody's going to tag you after you gave them a shirt at CultureCon is stupid. You need to get a contract and pay that person.

But there's another piece to this, which is— there's another piece I would just add is sometimes the person doesn't wear it.