Transcript of We're Confused By Jaxon Smith-Njigba's Dominance | Hour 2

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All right, the NHL picks of the week.

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Park, presented by DraftKings Sports. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I'm looking at assists tonight.

Okay, assists.

All right, Vegas-Pittsburgh tonight, Mitch Marner going with over half an assist. He's had an assist in 10 straight games. And Edmonton at New Jersey, Evan Bouchard has had an assist in 11 out of the last 12 games, going with over half an assist there. And in the same game, Connor McDavid, he's had 15 straight games with an assist. He's a very good player. That parlay is 300, plus 300, so good luck, everybody.

It will be no good luck if you're taking Roy's advice. Chris Cody has been betting against Roy and winning when he just takes the opposite of what Roy selects, despite his hockey expertise. I want to advance the conversation a little bit we were just having because we didn't mention Brock Purdy, and I thought you guys were disrespectful to Jordan Love. But because we're celebrating Caleb Williams today, it should be noted that since he came back from a hamstring injury, they've scored 30 points in 3 straight games and never trailed.

Yeah, that's how it works. I don't think you—I agree with everything you said. I agree with everything you said.

Also, there's a systemic situation, systemic failure from the front office for Green Bay with all of those stats, right? Offensive line isn't great, running game isn't great. Like, all of those things are byproduct of what they haven't been able to do to fix the trenches.

But Jordan Love is great anyway, is what I'm saying.

He's just not MVP caliber.

Well, but only—but he is MVP caliber if I put him in the Bears' offense. Like, if I just took—you'd be getting the same things. If I put him—if I traded him for Caleb Williams, Caleb Williams would look far less good than he presently looks, and Jordan Love would look even better than he looks.

Sure enough, if I put Cupholders on a bicycle helmet, everybody would say, "Oh man, that's incredible." But at the end of the day, he's on the Packers, and he's not doing what he's doing.

And at the beginning of the day as well.

I like Jordan Love as a quarterback, not as good as Caleb Williams.

Yeah, I think that these things are hard to untangle.

What did he say?

He said as a quarterback, not as good as Caleb Williams. He said.

So you like him just not as much as you like Caleb Williams? Okay, gotcha.

Yeah, I think it's valid. Look, I think Jordan Love is playing amazing. I think what Jordan Love this year has proven is that he believes in himself as an elite quarterback because offensively, he doesn't have a choice but to be lights out in the passing game. Because you're right, he doesn't have a running game, and his pass protection has been the worst in the league. But when those symptoms are there, it's going to be hard to catapult him as an MVP because that is the reality of Joe Burrow year in and year out. Jordan Love is a great quarterback, and for the first time in his career, he is the face of this offense and not Matt LaFleur.

Well, you say the reality is the reality, but I have a hard time untangling what is being provided by whom in the supporting cast and how it is it makes the quarterback better. Because I'm sitting here telling you, that list of things that I just gave you—no running game, getting hit more than any quarterback in the league, getting more pressure than any quarterback in the league—will make any quarterback's performance that you have watched throughout the history of time be less good than you remember it being if I put those factors in.

Oh, so basically then you're saying Brock Purdie is the MVP because he's got nothing. He's running out there with fourth and fifth-string guys.

No, you see the difference in Brock Purdie's performance when it's the fourth and fifth-string guys. When he has his guys, he looks like the MVP. When he doesn't have his guys, he doesn't look like the MVP anymore. That's the most obvious test case you have in the entire league. The first 4 weeks, all we were doing was talking about, "I can't believe how good Brock Purdie is." What do you think Jared Goff would look like if those guys weren't the guys that he has around him in that huddle? Like, do you guys think that Jared Goff would be one of the best—look like one of the best quarterbacks ever?

Jared Goff's a good quarterback.

He's an up-and-come pick in his draft.

He's a really good quarterback. Is he as mobile as Jordan Love or Caleb Williams? No, of course not. But he is a really good quarterback who is playing really good football in a system that actually has sucked since Ben Johnson left. So the new OC has kind of brought that out of him. But he has kind of been the steady of the ship in Detroit since he's gotten there from the Rams.

I've waited too long to get to the useless sound montage this week. We wait till after the Monday night game is completed to get all of the useless sound from every crevice of uselessness that there is anywhere in the NFL. Let's play the useless sound montage.

A big congratulations to the Brewers and what they did to win the World Series. It's not easy, and they did it.

The touchdown was a great idea. I'm not sure whose idea it was.

Two good football teams playing each other, and that's what happened tonight. It was two good teams playing each other.

I will say this. I thought Kaden Curry played his freaking balls off today.

You have to take it a week at a time, a day at a time, a play at a time, really.

Our team needs a buy. I don't think I've ever been in a season where your team didn't need a buy.

I think the little bit of the curse is that I hate losing probably more than I like winning.

What are your emotions after this win?

Well, I'm just tired. I'm just ready to go home, go to sleep.

That's football. There's going to be highs and lows.

You can't get too high, you can't get too low.

We have got to find something that we can hang our hat on.

Names don't win games.

I ain't never throw 4 picks in a game. Was it 4 or 5? 4. Everybody know. I'm just laughing.

Well, I think every day you're either getting better or you're getting worse.

It's the NFL. Names change, names evolve.

He must piss a lot of guys off because every time he gets hit, he gets absolutely smoked.

I saw a bunch of blinkers. I say, if you're a blinker, cut your eyelids off.

But at this point, man, talk is cheap. Telling stories is cheap. We've got to go write our own story. Thankfully, we've got the pen.

It would be raining really hard, then it would just, like, be sprinkling, and then it wouldn't be any rain. It was really weird, honestly.

Some of the same mistakes that were showing up, that have shown up, were showing up.

You got to relish the thick moments.

My arm got hit, bro. I mean, it's unfortunate. I couldn't control that. Obviously, we want to take care of the football, but I mean, my arm kind of got hit, so it's unfortunate.

He wears every hat the right way.

You know, excuses, if you want to find them, they're easy. But I refuse to make any excuses about any type of weather or temperature. That's not going to happen.

We just got to finish better. That's where we hang our hat on. That's our calling card, and we didn't get that done today. That's not acceptable.

We did a lot to dig ourselves out of it. We're still in it, being 3 and 5, not being 500 or anything else. I told them to keep their shovels closed because we got a lot more digging to do.

They're blinkers. They got to cut their eyelids off.

It's an opportunity, again, to stick together, work together, come together.

Yeah, we're aware of what the issues are, and we're the only ones who can fix them.

Nice plays, and penalties are showing up. Getting the ball in the red zone, a penalty showing up. It was like Groundhog Day.

We're the only ones that have the opportunity to change it, to fix it. And that's what we're going to do, go back to work.

I don't want to make any excuses on weather, hot, cold, rainy. That's not going to be our team.

Call, man. I'm going to give him such a hard time about that. I mean, I saw what he was thinking because it's going right in front of him, and he's thinking, "I'm going to scoop and score." And then he knocks that out of balance. I mean, what the hell?

There's no quit, there's no surrender. It's going to be an opportunity next week, and get ourselves ready for that. And it's that motivation, it's that dedication that we're going to—there's next week. There's an opportunity, and we're the only ones. There's no place to—there's no place to—there's no apomedics. So you got to keep working, you got to keep moving forward, and just give it your very best and get better.

well, damn said. Just get better, brother.

Why are you writing down notes? All of that was dreadful. You were inspired by that last week. Jim Harbaugh was a rambling bundle of uselessness. I don't know what it is to relish the thickest moments.

What? You don't know what that means?

I don't. What are thick moments? I've not heard that adjective used to describe moments.

It's an opportunity to grow. That means when stuff gets thick, things get in a situation where you feel like you're at the least amount of control, that's when you get better. I tell myself, when it's hard, it's good. Those are the opportunities.

I'm going to put this in next week's useless sound, what you just said.

When it's hard, it's good.

There you go. Minute 12, no timeouts, length of the field to go, damn thick moment.

Thick.

Put it on the pole, please. Who's playing harder, guy who plays his ass off or guy who plays his balls off? Because I have not heard in the useless sound montage before someone say that someone played their balls off. So rock hard on the field. That was Shane Steichen, whose job is in some great jeopardy. I'm assuming Jonathan Taylor is going to be traded. Are you not assuming that Jonathan Taylor is going to be traded?

Yeah, he's right. He's right there, Bengals.

The Colts have cashed in on their season, but who do you think plays harder, guy who plays his ass off or guy who plays his balls off?

I'm going to go with both. Guy who plays his balls off, there's a lot of implications when you're playing your balls off. There's like a—that's like a burn-the-boats moment that you got to live through the rest of the life with your balls.

It'd be horrifying if you were playing so hard and you looked at the turf and your balls were off, right? It'd be.

Where are my balls?

Yeah, I mean, your ass, you're used to it because other guys have played their ass off.

Multiple guys playing their ass off.

But because when that guy's playing his ass off, you got to play harder and you got to play your balls off. And now there's asses all over the field and a couple of balls, and they're your balls.

When you've played your ass off on the field and you look to the right of you and you see a guy who's played his balls off, you got to hand it to him. The balls.

Hand what to him?

You got to pick him up and say, "Hey."

That would be a good time for Chris Cody's imaging.

Balls.

Thank you.

Dan Le Batard.

Analytics have/are ruining the game. We're playing AI hoops.

That's his team. His team's in the forefront of all that.

Man's ass. Don't steal my thunder.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. Jonathan Sassolo. I got carried away. This is the Dan Le Batard Show.

Just getting back to the Jordan Love point real quick, and I know wins are in a quarterback stat, but when your team rushes for less than 500 yards in 8 games throughout NFL history, those teams are 11 and 61. Jordan Love is 5 and 3 this year, and it's largely because Jordan Love has been extraordinary under a great deal of duress.

Is Jordan Love your pick for MVP right now?

No.

Sounds like it.

I'm just telling you that he's playing MVP-caliber football. No one will ever vote for him for MVP if he's not one of the best teams in the league. You have your questions about the Packers, but the only reason they're relevant is because their quarterback is great. It's the only reason.

He's a great player, just not the MVP. How does he wear his mouthpiece? Can we get a?

Well, let me talk about another great player with you since you do have some wide receiver expertise.

Some.

Jaxon Smith-Njigba is somebody who's continuing to be on pace to set the record for yards for a single season. Last night, he's got 92 yards at the half, and he's got a fairly difficult thing that he's up against every week in that the betting number at DraftKings for yardage in a game before that game against that defense, with Jeffrey Simmons in the middle of it, pressuring Sam Darnold, for Jaxon Smith-Njigba was 101 yards.

Nobody.

He's just throwing to him. And when I talk about Doncic and the fact that he doesn't look the type on greatest scorer ever, when I say to you, "Jaxon Smith-Njigba doesn't look the type on greatest receiver ever," while putting up numbers that look like greatest receiver ever, you do what with that? Because I don't think anybody looks at him and says, "That's the fastest receiver in the league."

No, he's not the fastest. He's not the quickest. He's not the biggest. He just plays the position better than anybody in the league. And there is a relatability thing to JSN that prevents people from saying, "Oh, I know I can't do what Jamar Chase does. He's the best. Oh, I know I can't do what Justin Jefferson does. He's the best. Oh, CD Lamb, he's so quick." But when they watch JSN, it's almost like he's so good, it does him a disservice as a wide receiver because I think people feel like, "Oh, if you work really, really hard, or if I was in that situation and blah, blah, blah, that I could do what JSN does."

He suffers from a bit of Steph Curry syndrome, where you look at Steph Curry and you're like, "I think I could do that. I could shoot 5-3." He's not that big. He's not that fast. He's not that incredible. But then when you actually start watching him, his ball handling, his ability to move in space, his ability to get to open spaces. When I saw JSN last night turn around Jalen Johnson on a quick just out route, where he went out, in, and then back out, and Jalen Johnson literally went like this and turned around and didn't see him.

Open by 6 yards on a route that you should expect.

It's a 3-yard route.

Well, but let's talk for a second because Hawk can help us with this as somebody who dedicated his life to the precision of route running and what you do with your hips to get a cornerback turned around, thinking that you're going to go deep and you're not. Look, man, you can't let him get behind you with 30 seconds left in the half. And yet, because of the way that he runs his routes, he's clearly getting corners to bite, thinking that he's going on a slant over the middle, and then he's behind your secondary with 30 seconds left in the half.

You have no ability to dictate what he's going to do. And not only can you not dictate it, he gives no indicators of what he's going to do. And that's the best route running. It's a form of deception. So my background, the reason why I had 20 tackles in the NFL, Chris, is because I played defensive back early.

Oh, nice.

And I was a converted defensive back, so I was a little bit of a dog. But what it helped me with.

That's why you're so good at tackles. 20 of them in the NFL.

That's like 20 of them. That's more tackles than anybody in this studio combined, plus 20. Okay? Maybe Jeremy because he is looking good. We haven't addressed that as much as we should have.

Thank you.

But he's wearing a full football outfit. So back to the receiver. Because I played defensive back, I kind of knew the rules. My brother played DB, and that's what I thought. And so as I played receiver, I just would go the opposite of what I know the DBs are taught to do. And so when you watch JSN, the reason why they get so caught in turmoil is because he messes with their timing. He doesn't cut at the times that they typically expect. He doesn't give the indicators that they're taught to look for. And if they are looking for those indicators, he makes sure he gives it to them on the opposite of what he's doing.

Hawk, can you talk to me about the head fake. He's got, I think, the best head fake in the wide receivers of the NFL.

Yeah. We're going deep wide receiver here. I like this, Dan.

That's what we like to do. Are you following right now?

You have the diagram concept, too.

You're the expert here.

Let's do it.

You have 9 more touchdown catches in your career than everyone in this studio combined.

I caught passes on Ed Reid. Anybody here ever caught a pass on Ed Reid? No? Troy Palamalu. Now, there weren't a lot of passes, and it wasn't that night where I had zero catches. That wasn't one of the nights. But in doing so, these are the things that I've learned.

You tackled Palamalu that night.

You ever hit a 3 on Darrell Revis? I did that.

Did you?

Yeah.

No, I didn't hit a 3 on Darrell Revis.

You ever get a hit off Matt Latos?

No. Jeez. All right. We got a bunch of athletes, man.

So with JSN, on that 4th and 2 that he scores a 45 or 50-yard touchdown or whatever it was, his head fake started basically right when he came out of his route. And the corner bit so much that he was able to get behind him by 25 yards.

So don't think of it as head fakes as much as you think of it as eyes or intention. So good DBs are looking for, again, any indicator to help them out. You got a 4th and 2. You understand, "Okay, I got to stop them from getting these 2 yards." Perfect opportunity to go yard on them. But with JSN, he not only uses his head fakes, he uses his eyes. Because what happens is a DB looks for your eyes, and that's the final thing to convince me that you're doing something. So if you cut in a direction, you put your shoulders in a direction, the flow of the play is going in a direction, and your eyes are going in the whole time, that's going to be the conviction I have to make a break on it.

You guys look at what Doncic did last night, okay? And he's got a bunch of 40-point games in a row now, and he not unlike JSN. You know who you got to stop. There's one guy you got to stop. And every game plan, every walkthrough practice, it's one guy you got to stop, and there is no stopping him. When I tell you doesn't look the part of best ever on both of those guys, and I have trouble explaining what it is that they're doing to make them better than everyone else because I want it to be athleticism and athleticism that I can measure.

I think what's just as interesting is Luka seems to be the rare player in today's NBA who you don't want to pair with another superstar. You saw in Dallas and granted, Kyrie Irving got there in the middle of that season, I believe, but you saw in Dallas, he carried them to an NBA Finals. And Luka, all right, he played 2 years with LeBron there. We weren't getting this version of Luka or this version of the Lakers. And now, all right, his second-best player is Austin Reaves, who is fine. But Luka is the main guy, and they are awesome, and he's putting up these numbers.

I think that's the important part about JSN, exactly what you talked about, Zaz, is I think in the first half, he had 92 yards and the rest of the team had 2. So it's like, yeah.

I mean, Darnold is being criticized for throwing to no one else because they don't use Cooper Cup, they don't use their tight end, they're not using anybody other than him, but they won the championship that way.

Right. Is it that much different from what they did last year?

No, it isn't. But when you mentioned Luka, I want to go back to this for a second because everyone's going to look at the 40, but he's averaging 37 a game. He can put up 40 on anybody. The thing that I'm watching that I'm like, "I can't believe that." In a game when Giannis is having 7 turnovers, Luka's got 13 assists and 2 turnovers. You're not wrong when you say he's got to have the usage rate, and it's got to be that his number 2 is Austin Reaves. I guess Kyrie Irving functioned in that role and got them to the Finals, but that he's actually better off with lesser players, players who need the ball less, players who can play off of him.

Yeah. It's his ability to adjust no matter what. When you watch him play, you talk about him moving slowly, but his brain is moving faster than everyone else on the court. He has an understanding and knowing exactly what the counter needs to be to everything you throw at him. So it's not just, "Okay, you double this guy," and he knows to get rid of the ball without turning it over. He knows exactly where the best matchup is on the floor, which is why it's not just 42 points. It's 13 assists because he's getting it to the guy who was going to score, not just swing it around and hope that they hit an open 3.

Dan Le Batard.

What is the worst part of the life?

Jonathan Sassolo.

The worst part of the life of what?

This is the Dan Le Batard Show.

Let's talk for a second, though, about throughout sports. Give me the guys. I saw that Nick Wright and Dan Patrick got into an argument the other day about whether Larry Bird is better than LeBron James or not. When I think of Jokic, Jokic specifically, because of how slow he is, I at least understand, well, he's bigger than everybody else, and so he can just sort of hold the ball over his head. And I can understand that while he's slow, I still understand what's happening. Give me the guys like JSN throughout sports where you're watching this and you know you're watching greatness, but you don't understand how it is that it's happening.

He's not a 6-foot.

But he looks small to me. Runs and plays small. Not Tyreek Hill small, but runs and plays small, and I just don't get it. I don't understand what I'm watching because it's not like the way that Cooper Cup did it with Matthew Stafford when I knew I could go to the quarterback. This is quarterback independent. That guy would be the best in the league playing with anybody.

Kyle Schwarber.

That's a good one.

Thank you.

Jalen Brunson. A guy I look at him like, "He's not that fast."

Damn, dude.

He's kind of not athletic. He's got a great touch around the rim, has a decent jumper, but he's just always in the right spot making the right play.

I don't know if I can top Jalen Brunson. I would say Jerry Rice is in that kind of mode of thinking as well.

Well, but Jerry Rice informs what it is to me a wide receiver is supposed to look like because Jerry Rice did it that way, informed my opinion of it. Brunson's a great one because Brunson, unlike Doncic, the thing that people forget about Doncic is he's giant, where Brunson is 8 inches shorter than that, and he's always the smallest guy on the court. But when I see Maxey be great, I understand it. When I see Brunson be great, I don't. It's all body control.

Brad Marchand.

That's another one that's pretty good. I don't understand why it is that he.

He's tiny.

I don't understand why that guy is as good as he is at that.

I mean, Jose Altuve, he's just small. The cheat code a little bit.

You are cheating with that. Yes.

Went Chubby with Schwarber.

Yeah, you're just.

Trying to play the game.

Yeah. You are. But Schwarber looks like a softball player, so I understand how it is that he arrives at 40 home runs this season.

Yeah, but Pete Crow Armstrong hitting 45 home runs is a little confusing because he's kind of scrawny.

Baseball, though.

Baseball's different.

It's cheating because you don't actually I mean, the Brewers were hugely athletic, but you don't actually have to be a great athlete. I mean, Greg Maddox.

Whoa, Brock Purdy.

How dare you criticize Greg Maddox.

You don't have to look or be a great athlete in baseball.

Like a 10-time gold-glover, Dan.

Well, I thought about this with Yandy Diaz. I was wondering with the rays if I've ever seen arms bigger than that on a baseball player ever in my life. I remember Juan Gonzalez won a couple of MVPs when he was on steroids, and I didn't understand how it is that that musculature would improve or help bat speed because you don't want your chest to be all tight when you're swinging a baseball bat. But in baseball, I don't think of muscles. I don't think of athleticism. In basketball and football, that's all you're getting.

Yeah. I think with JSN and a lot of these players, it is an example of skill being in some ways tangible. Yeah, Jeremiah Smith, 6'5", run like the wind, can catch a BB in the dark. Those are easy players to scout. For JSN, it's exactly what Jeremy talked about, where it's like a professional is you have an intention. It's like, "If this, then that." And how deep is your if this, then that bag of any scenario thrown at you? You know exactly where to go with your shoulders, eyes, feet.

The NFL obviously thought he was worthy of a first-round pick, but it wasn't high first round. It was second half of the first round, so it's not like it jumped off the page. Yes, you thought he was going to be a great receiver, but to get the stats you're presently getting, that gets drafted number one overall if you think that that's what that is.

He was the first wide receiver taken. He was 20th overall in the 2023 draft. He was the pick before Quentin Johnson as a wide receiver out of TCU. And remember, the fourth overall pick, of course, in that draft to the Indianapolis Colts, Anthony Richardson.

So when you look at JSN and what he's able to do, it's almost like Mayweather, where he just knows the game so well and is able to look around and say, "All right, he's going to do this jab. I'm going to slip this way. He's going to try and go an uppercut. I'm going to take a step back." And remember, he was drafted to be the third wide receiver for Seattle. They had DK already, a bona fide superstar. They had Tyler Lockett, who was their GOAT forever. And it's like, "JSN, we're going to throw him into the slot and see what he can do. Maybe he'll be a nice little pick." And now he ends up being better than both of those guys substantially.

Okay, but so that one's interesting, though, because that is how some of that can sneak up on you in terms of opportunity. Randy Moss came in and had 17 touchdown catches his first season. Everyone was like, "Oh, he doesn't know how to do anything but run GOAT routes, but no one can stop the GOAT routes." And you see immediately. But because you mentioned Jerry Rice, I expect the receiver to look like Randy Moss if you're going to look like you're the best ever statistically. I don't expect it to look like JSN.

I get it. I get it. Again, he had zero tendencies. So imagine someone that you have zero beat on and purposely. He purposely has zero tendencies, and so you can never catch up to what he's doing. He doesn't have a single thing he likes to do. He doesn't have a certain way to play that he's always going to come back to.

You say that. All of these guys are spending the entire offseason, four years, running precise routes. Why is he the only one that has it? What do you mean he's the only one that has no tendencies? What is he learning that no one else can learn?

He's putting more time in. I mean, there's levels to it. Even before he got to where he was, he was already extremely talented. Because I don't want to diminish the fact that, again, he's a 6-foot receiver. He has great change of direction. He's good on all three levels of the field. He is extremely talented. But then it's like those situations where you mix the talent with the skill that a lot of guys that have just solely talent, they will build their skill. They can have incredible playmaking ability. They're just not as precise and intentional as he is, which does take an extreme amount of time that doesn't just come to you.

So you think he's working harder than any other receiver? Because I have no way of proving that. It's an easy thing to say based on the results, but I believe you're sitting here saying to me that you believe that he cares more than all of the other people who are receiving football.

In sports media, there are people who are just great in front of the camera. They get in front of the camera, and it just comes natural to them that they are rock stars. You can't help but be captivated by their personality and all the things. And then there are people that study sports media so well that they know the ins and outs. And okay, if this happens and that happens, then it might not be as natural to them, but they have to spend a bunch of time learning this, and they could actually be better than the person who naturally does it. That's JSN. It's not that he may not work harder. It's not when they line up that he's putting in more effort than the rest of them when they're running as hard as they can or catching or cutting.

You hear my confusion, and you're trying to speak a language that I understand by saying that there are sports media people who are just naturally charismatic and are better at it because they work at being better at it. And I feel like most sports media members are largely interchangeable. I believe that most I believe that the great if I sit here and say to people listening to this right now, "Hey, who's the best at the delivering of things on sports television?"

Let's go to the board. Who do we think here?

Zaz.

Zaz, number one. Okay, I like that.

Skip, baddest player.

Skip. Okay, who else we got here?

You feel like you're going to get one answer that's an accurate answer on who's the best at the doing of sports television?

Stephen A.

Dan.

Dan.

What a terrible answer.

Absolutely not. I can assure you that it is not me.

Love you, Dan. I'm just here to support you.

Yeah, I appreciate that, but I'd appreciate it with the truth instead of with lies. I don't need you flattering me with a bunch of lies through that face mask.

So somehow I supported you, and I'm the one that gets criticized.

I'm just telling you, you're just wrong. It's a silly thing to say, but I.

Rich Eisen.

What? Okay, yeah. I just think it's a lot of interchangeable parts. It's whoever ESPN decides that it's. That's fine. Whoever they decide it is, we all go along with it. Okay, fair enough. It can be Rich Eisen if you want it to be Rich Eisen. But I don't think it's the same thing at all.

Rich Eisen is JSN, is that what you're telling me?

Rich Meyers.

You leave him out of this. What are you doing?

Behind his back again.

See you guys later.

He's a coward, Dan. Absolute coward to your.

What?

Fellow alumni.

To a classmate.

There you go. All right.

Listen, we got another week.

We got that.

Motivation, dedication, as always, next week.

Have you guys been burying Chris Cody because Chris Meyers was on with us, and he did the fake Pukee broadcaster voice before he came on, and he did the fake Pukee broadcaster voice after he left, but he did not do it for or around Chris Meyers, which was a rare act of cowardice.

And then I texted him after, "Great hit, man. Appreciate it. Have you on soon."

That's terrible.

I'm telling you, you heard the clip, Hawk, you'd agree that's what it sounds like.

Play it for Hawk so you can listen to it. Where is it? I want to hear you do it again.

I wanted the very best in sports media, and here we are.

Go ahead. Great. So you think that if Chris studied sports media the way that JSN studies route running and worked harder, you think if Chris worked harder than everyone else, that he would be the and was put in Rich Eisen's slot with ESPN.

He would crush it.

On doing the Pukee broadcaster voice, you want to give us some? You want to throw it to break here as the Pukee broadcaster who's better than anyone else in sports media?

Well, we'll be right back on the show.

That's Gatta, who says, "I'll take the tie and get out of town."