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This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show mixes sports talk with a long debate about whether audiences can keep enjoying the work of entertainers accused of serious crimes. The hosts and guest David Sampson discuss separating art from artists, whether Hall of Fame figures like O.J.

Simpson should be removed, and a proposal to rename Plantation, Florida. Later, they weigh fandom against business in sports, the effect of midterm elections on college sports legislation, and the weekly NFL picks segment.

Listeners hear arguments from several sides, and the hosts and guest often disagree with one another.

In this episode Dan Le Batard, David Sampson

This Dan Le Batard Show episode on Plantation names and sports fandom was made with the same technology HappyScribe uses for Zoom transcription.

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David Sampson00:01:54

That's weird, right?

Dan Le Batard00:01:55

It's always weird. David Sampson is often unusual, but I just wanted to include him on a conversation here. I just saw something happen in real time that I imagine is happening all the time, and I saw it happen to Zaslow in a way that was interesting. So Russell Brand is about to get a lot of prison time, and Zaslow is just learning now that getting him to the Greek and this guy that he used to like is really disappointing him. It just happened next to me where it's like he's like, "Oh, wait a minute.

I like that guy. What do you mean? What, he's a criminal? He's going to prison?" And so it was fascinating to just watch you sort of get disappointed and feel the crush of, "This is a person I rooted for, and he's an awful human being."

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David Sampson00:02:42

Yeah, forgetting Sarah Marshall is probably my favorite comedy. Getting him to the Greek, I think, is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. So that's disappointing about Russell Brand. Heck, this happened to me also with when I was a teenager and when I was in college. That '70s show, one of my all-time favorite shows. And Danny Masterson, clearly a real piece of shit because he women and now he's in prison for like the rest of his life. And that was shocking also to like, I don't know, you watch these people, it's like, "Oh, he makes me laugh." It's, "Oh, he's a really bad person."

Jeremy00:03:11

This guy lived under a rock. He didn't know about Tommy Tuberville either.

David Sampson00:03:13

He's locked in on sports, Jeremy. What are you doing? Come on.

Jeremy00:03:15

That guy doesn't know sports.

David Sampson00:03:16

Come on.

Jeremy00:03:18

It's just a bummer when you find that.

Dan Le Batard00:03:19

Zaslow lives in a cave, occasionally comes out and watches Forgetting Sarah Marshall, and then goes back to Panthers hockey. Like that. What do you mean?

David Sampson00:03:27

I mean, take my stories also.

Jeremy00:03:29

Take my eyes, but not my shit.

Dan Le Batard00:03:30

I mean, that phenomenon goes all the way back to Cosby, right? Bill Cosby.

David Sampson00:03:36

Cosby's got to be the top one.

Dan Le Batard00:03:37

He's America's dad. And then look at him.

Jeremy00:03:40

So we should do what? A top five guys who turned out to be rapists?

Dan Le Batard00:03:42

Yeah, go ahead and assemble that. David Sampson, you're laughing over there. Nothing personal.

David Sampson00:03:47

Like Family Feud.

Dan Le Batard00:03:49

Well, but David Sampson. So David Sampson loves the movies more than any of your guys. How do you manage all of this stuff?

David Sampson00:03:53

I just don't recognize the difference. So I will tell you that I'll still listen to Michael Jackson songs, and I'll still watch the usual suspects. And I try to remember that these are people who are doing things that are so terrible I don't want to know them in real life.

Dan Le Batard00:04:09

Show me Kevin Spacey.

David Sampson00:04:10

Yeah, good answer. Good answer. And I'm glad that he's going to prison because he's a rapist. But on the other hand, I laughed, and I'm not going to feel bad for not feeling worse. But he's not going to get to make another movie. So he's done making me laugh. It's got to be on rerun only. And if I don't separate art from artist, I'm screwed. I won't be able to watch anything or listen to anything because it turns out celebrities and artists are just people who are committing the same types of crimes as everyone else who's being prosecuted by DAs around the country and the world.

Jeremy00:04:40

So you're really adept at separating art from the artist then.

Dan Le Batard00:04:44

That's what you just said.

David Sampson00:04:44

You have to be.

Dan Le Batard00:04:45

Okay, Roy, I'm sorry. I'm going to have to get you. I'm going to have to get you out of here, Roy. If you weren't listening.

David Sampson00:04:49

Just hammering home the point.

Dan Le Batard00:04:50

Yeah, hammering home the point. Just get out of here.

Jeremy00:04:52

Minor penalty, two minutes for not listening to the show.

David Sampson00:04:55

See that coming?

Dan Le Batard00:04:56

Just get out of here.

Mike00:05:02

Please show yourself out.

Dan Le Batard00:05:04

Another example of what we're talking about, obviously, is O.J. Simpson. I'm curious, David Sampson, should the NFL retroactively abolish O.J. Simpson from the Hall of Fame? That applies to other sports as well, but in this case, I'm curious what you think.

David Sampson00:05:20

There was a committee that was started at Yale where they came up with a way to judge how you decide when to rename buildings or take down statues, when you would go back in time and say, "Wow, that person was a racist or a rapist or a murderer. Do we adjust?" And there's an entire sort of rule book that now people are following with how to navigate your impossible question, Greg, because people will say, "Oh, just it's so easy. Just change the name of the building or get rid of O.J.

Simpson. Just erase him as though it didn't happen." And things aren't necessarily as easy as that. So applying what I know about the system to O.J. Simpson, the answer is no. The answer is that he is O.J. Simpson. Part of his story is that he was found not guilty criminally. He was found liable civilly. And then he went to prison on an unrelated robbery charge. That's part of his story. If we made the Hall of Fame, and of course we pick and choose because some people we choose do not allow in for gambling or steroids, and other people did both of those and are in the Hall of Fame in baseball.

So basically, we pick and choose inconsistently, and we just live with it.

Dan Le Batard00:06:35

Why is Roy not in the penalty box? Roy decided to interrupt Greg Cody by saying literally something David Sampson had said four sentences earlier.

Jeremy00:06:46

In a day after Greg Cody Day as well.

Dan Le Batard00:06:48

Why is he still so close to the studio? Why is he not banished? I wish I still had the ocean. I'm thinking about going back to the Clevelander just so I could send Roy out to sea. I'm thinking like, I don't want he's just going to lean like it's a lamp post. Like he's going to lean against the studio just waiting to be allowed back in when I want him the hell out of here off of Greg Cody's plantation.

Jeremy00:07:14

In his defense, he looked really cool leaning up against the wall.

David Sampson00:07:16

He did.

Jeremy00:07:17

Like a casual of them. I like how that sounded. Yeah, neither did I. Zaz?

Dan Le Batard00:07:21

You know what? Neither did I. You guys continue the show with David Sampson.

Jeremy00:07:25

Minor penalty, two minutes. Accidental racism.

David Sampson00:07:35

Oh, man.

Jeremy00:07:36

Hey, Zaz, what are you, a monk?

David Sampson00:07:39

Well, I mean, David's someone we could ask here. David, do you recognize I have not seen this movie. Do you know what movie I am from? It's a show.

Mike00:07:45

It was also a movie.

David Sampson00:07:46

Oh my God. Do you know what I'm from here, David? What I'm dressed as? So the only thing I thought of, and this is obviously, this could end the segment right now. I thought you could have been Mark.

Jeremy00:07:56

Yeah, I like it. Robin?

Mike00:07:59

What's up? Robin Williams from Mark and Mindy?

Jeremy00:08:00

Yeah.

David Sampson00:08:01

Yes. That's the only thing I thought of, Mike, when I saw Zaz.

Jeremy00:08:05

Mark from Mark?

David Sampson00:08:06

Mark from Mark. That's the first thing that came to my mind.

Jeremy00:08:10

Apparently.

David Sampson00:08:10

I'm a character from the movie Avatar, but I thought those were blue guys.

Jeremy00:08:14

Yeah. They got the blue thing on your face.

David Sampson00:08:16

From Avatar: The Last Airbender. Now that came first. That's not the same Avatar?

Mike00:08:20

So there was an animated series, Avatar: The Last Airbender, and then a feature film that was actually, I believe, directed by M. Night Shyamalan. No twist in this one.

Jeremy00:08:29

I don't watch cartoons. I'm an adult.

Mike00:08:31

Well, it was a movie too.

David Sampson00:08:33

So Mike, without getting too personal, are you supposed to be Gilligan?

Mike00:08:36

No. I lost at the bucket, and you have to wear the losing team's mascot, and I had the Coast Guard.

David Sampson00:08:46

They got annihilated by MIT.

Mike00:08:49

Which honestly was really disappointing for the men in our service. For the armed services, I was it got pushed around by a bunch of tech nerds.

David Sampson00:08:58

Yeah.

Jeremy00:08:59

Coast Guard.

David Sampson00:08:59

I lost the bucket too, and I didn't know what to dress as, so I just dressed as myself.

Jeremy00:09:04

We have something for you when you come down here next, David.

David Sampson00:09:08

Got it.

Jeremy00:09:09

I do.

David Sampson00:09:09

So it's got to be an in-person costume.

Jeremy00:09:11

That's a preference.

David Sampson00:09:12

I do want an update here because the last time we spoke with David, David was going through it because he was getting aggregated very unfairly last week. Remember with the radio? Baseball doesn't need to be on radio anymore. That was right. David, I got to tell you, I felt bad for you. That was unfair.

Dan Le Batard00:09:30

You did it.

David Sampson00:09:31

Don't ever feel badly for yourself.

Dan Le Batard00:09:32

I did not do it. You did it. What do you mean?

David Sampson00:09:35

Yes, you did.

Dan Le Batard00:09:36

You just aggregated him.

David Sampson00:09:37

You did it too.

Dan Le Batard00:09:38

I aggregated him. You and David Sampson are having look.

David Sampson00:09:41

I aggregated him.

Dan Le Batard00:09:41

You do David Sampson no good when you call afterward, "Hey, so sorry. I'm an idiot."

David Sampson00:09:45

I aggregated him.

Dan Le Batard00:09:46

Yes, he wanted to talk about something.

David Sampson00:09:48

Amazing.

Dan Le Batard00:09:49

You made it worse. Did he or did he not, David?

David Sampson00:09:52

It was so shocking how badly he made it worse that it made me laugh, actually, because aggregating is one thing. But when Zaz sort of leads with it in such a clumsy way with incorrect facts based on simply the aggregation, you've got a lot of Roar and reach these days, as you know, Zaz.

Dan Le Batard00:10:12

He forgets sometimes. He forgets when there are two people at City Hall.

David Sampson00:10:17

Exactly.

Dan Le Batard00:10:18

Multiple.

David Sampson00:10:19

So it lasted an extra day or two, Zaz, but I am back doing radio with the very people who were absolutely furious with what I said and said how unacceptable I am in every way.

Dan Le Batard00:10:32

Well, but can we.

David Sampson00:10:32

And when they called to ask me to come on the show for free.

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Dan Le Batard00:10:34

All right, can we fix the conversation? Can we fix the conversation, though? We'll do that in a second. I want to get to something. Roy had a very good idea in the penalty box, and I think we need to implement it and get behind it. This show needs to work to change the name of the city of Plantation.

Jeremy00:10:52

I'm on it.

Dan Le Batard00:10:52

Like publicly, we need to work. We need to create a groundswell to the day after.

Jeremy00:10:58

Dan, that's a great idea you just came up with, Dan. I love that. Why don't we call it Codyville?

David Sampson00:11:03

Am I taking crazy pills?

Dan Le Batard00:11:05

That's a good idea, Roy.

David Sampson00:11:07

I think this is the.

Dan Le Batard00:11:08

I think this is the place where we get the other website going, we'replantationpeople.com. I believe that we get.

David Sampson00:11:15

We were Plantation People.

Jeremy00:11:16

Oh, good one.

Dan Le Batard00:11:17

Yes, yes, but we in a progressive America. Look, did you see what the color of our government changed? We are progressive. Let's change the name of Plantation because Greg should not be the king of plantations.

Jeremy00:11:31

Great idea, Roy.

Dan Le Batard00:11:32

You understand I have to abstain from this, right? Like I live in Plantation. I didn't name the city. You don't have to abstain. Don't be a coward. We need to get.

Jeremy00:11:42

We'll hide him. We'll shield him from any fallout. We'll take the blame for renaming the city.

Dan Le Batard00:11:46

It's a stupid name in 2026. That and the mascot.

David Sampson00:11:49

Greg.

Jeremy00:11:50

Codyville.

David Sampson00:11:50

Greg, may I just.

Dan Le Batard00:11:51

Yeah.

David Sampson00:11:51

Greg, I'd like to point out to you that I lived in Plantation as well when I was president of the team.

Dan Le Batard00:11:56

David.

David Sampson00:11:57

And I actually sought professional advice on whether I needed to move.

Dan Le Batard00:12:02

Really?

David Sampson00:12:03

Yes, because I was concerned that it would somehow that Plantation this was when all of this was happening, all of the renaming and all of the this and the that. And what I was told is that the story behind Plantation, Florida is actually not. And I never researched it, confirmed it because I had the backing of a professional who would back me if it ever became a story. And the story was that Plantation, Florida is not named after a plantation in the sense of that you're thinking as in slaves.

So we, well, now you are completely off the hook and have to wear proudly the fact that you are king of Plantation.

Dan Le Batard00:12:49

We're Plantation people.

David Sampson00:12:51

No, we can get the.

Dan Le Batard00:12:52

Let's keep the movement going to get the name changed.

Jeremy00:12:54

That actually makes it easier for us because there's no real controversy here. It's just fun.

Dan Le Batard00:12:59

No, I'd prefer the real controversy.

Jeremy00:13:01

Well, we're creating controversy.

Mike00:13:03

You don't get it, Jeremy. We're changing the name.

Dan Le Batard00:13:05

Jeremy, take a chance.

David Sampson00:13:05

No, you know what? You're right.

Dan Le Batard00:13:06

Take a chance, Jeremy.

Mike00:13:07

How do you think the city of Plantation feels about the last 24 hours? They feel like they did a nice thing for Greg Cody.

Dan Le Batard00:13:13

In their jaundiced room, gave an old man surrounded by a bunch of old white people a prize in Plantation?

Mike00:13:18

I think you need to take a look in the mirror, Dan. This is poor. This is poor form, and it's pretty disrespectful. And there's times to have that conversation about the name of the city, probably not hours after they honored your best friend.

David Sampson00:13:31

Yeah, Mike.

Mike00:13:32

Who you've already had a sordid month with.

David Sampson00:13:34

Yeah, Mike's right.

Dan Le Batard00:13:35

We're Plantation people.

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Dan Le Batard.

David Sampson00:16:04

16.

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Greg Cody.

David Sampson00:16:06

Take the rest of the day off.

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This is the Dan Le Batard Show.

Dan Le Batard00:16:15

So Sampson, how were you misrepresented last week by Zazlow and others?

David Sampson00:16:20

Oh, I never said that there's not going to be audio baseball. I said that you're not going to go to your AM dial. There's going to be a different way that the audio voices will be distributed because there's no money in audio AM radio. That was the fact. And of course, it offends people thinking that I didn't love certain voices. Vince Goliath.

Dan Le Batard00:16:38

People were so offended.

David Sampson00:16:39

It's unbelievable, actually, but they just misunderstood and they don't realize that what I said is actually already happening because they were commenting like on their YouTube site while they were simulcasting their radio show. So it made me laugh. I need to return to something that has been bothering me since last night, and I was so lucky and thankful to be on your show today, Dan. Mike, when you got the news about Malachi Tony, the emotion you're showing, are you a fan or are you a booster and a businessman?

Because the first thing I thought of was the money that is being lost by the university potentially now with him hurt and what it could mean to their ability to go far in CFP, if at all, and how much money that would have meant to the school and the conference.

Dan Le Batard00:17:26

Malachi.

David Sampson00:17:26

Do you think that way now or not?

Mike00:17:28

I am a fan first and foremost, which is why I became a booster. And I'm also a businessman in that I have a Cain's media company. So the Malachi Tony injury kind of affects all those things deeply.

David Sampson00:17:42

But in what order? That's what I'm asking.

Mike00:17:44

Fan first. That's how I got involved. Yeah, fan first.

Dan Le Batard00:17:48

You know, David's asking the question because he can't imagine a world where people don't think money first. Like he's incapable of imagining.

David Sampson00:17:54

It's going to switch, Dan, just so you know.

Mike00:17:56

No.

David Sampson00:17:57

It may not be today. There's going to be an inflection point, Mike. There will be an inflection point, I promise you, where it will be the it will go the other way. And I thought that would be today.

Dan Le Batard00:18:07

Mike, I don't think you get it.

Mike00:18:08

I don't think you get it.

Dan Le Batard00:18:10

I don't think you get it.

Mike00:18:10

The tipping point in terms of money spent came when.

Dan Le Batard00:18:13

You don't think that Sampson gets fandom? Really?

Mike00:18:17

Yeah.

Dan Le Batard00:18:18

You don't think he knows how to take advantage of fandom?

Mike00:18:21

Picking up on the sarcasm.

Dan Le Batard00:18:24

He's called that way. The first thing he thinks all the time, every time, no matter where there's emotion involved in the emotion business is, "Where's the money?"

Mike00:18:33

Yeah, and also like fourth is the relationships involved too. I think about all the people that are affected by this, about how fragile everything is, about how one ankle injury can change the course of history and make a good year, a bad year. Like all of it is pretty sick. But it's why I care so much because when the day comes, and I was hoping it might come later in a couple of months, but who knows now. But when the day comes, it's going to be one of the most fulfilling, wonderful moments of my life. But right now, I'm in pure hell.

David Sampson00:19:03

I think where David is wrong here is Mike's fandom brought him to the business side. David, your fandom didn't bring you to the business. Your career, your ambition brought you to the business side of sports, not your fandom. Yeah. But it's so seductive that it gets everyone caught in its web, definitionally. And it may not be today, Mike, but I just want you to be prepared for the fact that you're right. It will not be as amazing when they win the national championship as it would be if you were simply just a fan.

Dan Le Batard00:19:36

David, what? If I can, because I don't understand why you don't understand what your blind spot is here when you're looking at Mike. Sometimes you wander around life and it seems like you're trying to look at human beings trying to understand how you too can be one. Like when it comes to fandom, you don't really understand it for sports because the business has saturated you, but you do understand it for movies and music, which is weird, right?

David Sampson00:20:01

No, I was a really big fan of sports, actually. And I remember the day. I remember the feeling. I told you I felt better when the Knicks made the finals in '94 than I did when the Marlons won the World Series. It felt totally different, way better.

Mike00:20:14

That's crazy.

David Sampson00:20:14

What happened.

Mike00:20:15

That's crazy.

David Sampson00:20:15

I'm just telling you the truth about the way it was inside me. It was super exciting to win a penalty in the World Series. Like really cool, really good for the business, really good for everything. But being a fan is just way better. But you're both crossing the streams, Mike. You're a fan of the very same entity where you are in business. And there will come a moment that you will be forced to make a choice. And the choice will always be business.

Mike00:20:43

I think there's.

David Sampson00:20:44

And you don't see it now, but it's going to happen.

Mike00:20:46

No, ultimately, the choice is my integrity and what I follow my own convictions. But there've been plenty of those crossroads. Look, I'm not even saying my way is the right way. It's just the way that I prefer. And a lot of people think it's silly to donate as much money to a school that I didn't go to. And I hear all the criticisms. What I value is the relationships I built. I think from a networking standpoint, this relationship with the school and its boosters.

David Sampson00:21:12

I think it's going to feel even better for you.

Mike00:21:13

Has brought a lot to the table. I've made lifelong friendships, and I care for a lot of people in that program. And it was something that I grew up with. I grew up going to the Orange Bowl. I grew up rooting for that. It means a lot to me. And while a lot of people think it's silly, all right, that's how I choose to live my life.

David Sampson00:21:28

Okay, so like David, you said the Knicks making the finals in '94 felt better than the Marlons winning in '03. What if instead of being executive with the Marlons, you weren't executive with the Knicks, your childhood team, and you won? I would have felt great satisfaction. I thought about it when I was interviewing to run the Knicks. I thought about what that would mean when I would possibly win as an executive for the Knicks. And I remember thinking to myself that it will be forever different.

The relationship with the team will be forever different. And that was fine by me. It was not a big issue, actually. Just not firing Isaiah Thomas ended up being the problem there. But it was for me understanding that there's a fan world and a business world. And the first thought when Tony got injured for me was business, much like when a pitcher walks off the mound and you know that it's Tommy John or they're flexing in a way that you know that's a year. It is so unbelievably awful knowing what a player has to go through to rehab.

It is very lonely. It is very difficult. And I have great empathy for it, whether it's an ACL, an Achilles, a Tommy John. But your mind immediately goes to, all right, what's next? What do we do for the business in order to keep it going? Because tomorrow or Saturday, there's a game against Notre Dame. And Christopher Ball is not in that clubhouse saying, "Oh, man, we're screwed. They're next man up. Let's go. We're here to win a national championship." And that's the harsh part about this game.

Dan Le Batard00:22:58

David, you were the Marlons president for a lot of years. Would you describe yourself back then as a ardent baseball fan or not? Because my theory is you don't have to be a fan of the sport to be a great club president.

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David Sampson00:23:13

We actually didn't want to hire fans of the sport. Fans of the sport end up wanting to watch batting practice and hang out with players and not it's why everyone wants to be in sports until they get into sports. And then all of a sudden, they leave because there's not a lot of money in it. And it's not as glamorous as you think. You're not hanging out with Giancarlo Stanton. So yeah, it's something that I think about all the time in terms of it's just a business. And you have to look at it like that or else you just won't be good. Which probably informs Greg a lot of parts of my life, which you call robotic and I just call efficient.

Mike00:23:46

The election changed a lot of things about this country, but there is a sports tie. Many people don't know that a lot of the local elections mean boards of college football, university, and traditional powers, they're going to look a little different. And a lot of people are confused as to what that might be. One of the most influential boosters in the nation at Texas Tech, one of the main power brokers. He might be out of a job soon. But here is an article from Ross Dellinger, and here's a quote from that article. If you want a quote, here it is. The aide said, "The NIL bill is dead on bleeping a rival."

Your take.

David Sampson00:24:20

I did an entire segment on this that is I'd like to just say what I didn't get to say on nothing personal. One of the things about the midterm elections is people end up voting and deciding what matters to them. And we can talk about the corruption. We can talk about the power and the power grab by Trump. And we can talk about how bad things are with the climate and everything else. People actually really vote in a selfish way. They vote about how they're feeling themselves, about their life, about their money situation, about promises that may have been made that didn't happen.

The Protect College Sports Act, that is something that for regular people, regular voters, they're not focused on that. When everything happened, the blue wave that happened, the result is that that Protect College Sports Act is done. But that was not in anyone's mind when they were voting at all, in my opinion. It's collateral damage to it. And there is no way to resuscitate it now. It's going to wait for another day, another session, another year, another midterm. But there were a thousand things like that that are proceeding in a certain way, including judicial appointments, US attorney appointments.

We're talking about people's lives. And I'm not commenting on whether it was a great day or a bad day. To me, it was a great day yesterday. However.

Dan Le Batard00:25:37

You are commenting.

David Sampson00:25:38

A lot of lives got impacted.

Dan Le Batard00:25:39

You did just comment on it. You said you're not commenting.

David Sampson00:25:42

It's just keep going, Dan.

Dan Le Batard00:25:43

You wanted to sit on the fence.

David Sampson00:25:44

I'm not commenting on that.

Dan Le Batard00:25:45

And then you commented on it. You wanted to be a fence sitter and then you didn't. You got off the fence and then you said it was a great day.

David Sampson00:25:50

I'm never a fence sitter. I have a very, very tight tush. There's no fence sitting for me.

Dan Le Batard00:25:55

Interesting.

David Sampson00:25:56

So the point is that a lot of lives changed.

Dan Le Batard00:25:59

Please.

David Sampson00:25:59

And part of it was NIL and Protect College Sports Act. That is not going to happen. And you talked about Texas. That was a big topic of mine. That's a huge deal that people don't think about where the regents are chosen by a person. And when you change the person, it's like bringing in if Dan were replaced by someone, we're all in jeopardy. That's part of life. It's when a new owner comes in or a new team president, people change out. That will happen on the regents, on the board of regents. And that's a very powerful position that just like that disappears.

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Speaker 900:28:17

Dan Le Batard.

Speaker 700:28:18

Can't wait for 39.

David Sampson00:28:19

Yeah, I can't either. 40 comes first.

Speaker 700:28:23

Do you know what 40 is yet?

David Sampson00:28:24

Not yet.

Speaker 700:28:25

See, what are we doing here?

Dan Le Batard00:28:26

Greg, did you just laugh? Did you just laugh out loud at something Louis said in your ear?

Speaker 900:28:31

Greg Coty.

David Sampson00:28:32

Yes. I couldn't help it. It was funny. Thanks, Louis. Gagging the goose.

Mike00:28:42

Of course.

David Sampson00:28:43

Choking the frog. I mean, there's a million of them.

Mike00:28:45

Of course.

David Sampson00:28:46

Half of them would sound dirty if we keep doing it.

Speaker 900:28:48

This is the Dan Le Batard Show.

Dan Le Batard00:29:03

Let's get the reaper, please, so that David Samson, we can get him in a costume. We got a lot of costumes today. You know that pleases me, even though I secretly deny it. What's going on with the who shrunk the reaper? That's far less menacing than it used to be. I mean, you can't have is that Brad Williams? You can't.

Speaker 700:29:26

Stop it.

Mike00:29:26

I got the Patriots. They are, as I've said.

Dan Le Batard00:29:30

Third home against the Packers, three-point favorite.

Speaker 700:29:34

I don't like that.

Mike00:29:35

I don't like that.

Speaker 700:29:36

I don't like that.

Dan Le Batard00:29:37

Three-point favorite.

Speaker 700:29:38

I don't know why I don't like it, but I don't like it.

Mike00:29:40

The Jordan Love got our big game.

Speaker 700:29:42

The Texans.

Dan Le Batard00:29:44

The Texans are at the.

Speaker 700:29:47

It's a good one. Upgrade.

Dan Le Batard00:29:49

They are at the Chargers. They're four and a half point favorite.

Speaker 700:29:51

Oh, the Chargers are going to win against somebody.

Mike00:29:53

Chargers are due.

David Sampson00:29:54

Yeah, Chargers are due for sure.

Dan Le Batard00:29:56

Is McConkie playing?

Mike00:29:57

Yeah. Played last week.

Dan Le Batard00:29:59

Good leg.

Mike00:29:59

Since one of their lone bright spots.

Speaker 700:30:01

Since a very small person.

Dan Le Batard00:30:05

Reaper's a person? Put it on the poll at Le Batard Show. Is the grim reaper a person?

Mike00:30:09

No, this is the Jets. And they're a nine and a half point.

Dan Le Batard00:30:13

They're at the Chiefs. Nine and a half.

Mike00:30:15

I'm going to put that one back.

Speaker 700:30:18

Samson, do you have a preference on who picks for you?

David Sampson00:30:21

No. I believe in everyone equally.

Mike00:30:24

Raiders.

Dan Le Batard00:30:25

You would not fit in Greg Coty's plantation.

Mike00:30:27

I somehow got a worse line. Raiders are plus 10 at the Niners. That's a loss.

Dan Le Batard00:30:31

There are a lot of bad lines this week. There are a lot of just big favorites.

Mike00:30:36

All right, I'm done with the grim reaper.

David Sampson00:30:37

I owe you a costume, Dan.

Mike00:30:39

Same, Ramajan.

Dan Le Batard00:30:41

Some of my favorite words.

Mike00:30:43

Vikings. Ooh, Monday night against the Bills.

Dan Le Batard00:30:46

He owes me a costume. Roy, I need you to pay attention to the show.

Mike00:30:49

We have one ready for you. Don't you worry. I think Bills are going to beat the Vikings on Monday night. I'm going to put that back.

Speaker 700:30:54

We're a bold take there, buddy.

David Sampson00:30:55

You and the rest of America.

Mike00:30:56

Fricking Raiders, man. Panthers against the Broncos.

Dan Le Batard00:31:03

Is that Alex Maribel?

Mike00:31:06

Just talk to me how.

Dan Le Batard00:31:07

Read past the University of Miami's offensive line coach. That is the tiniest reaper I've ever seen. It looks like a child. Do we have a child doing this?

Mike00:31:17

Underdog.

Dan Le Batard00:31:20

So the smallest favorite in the pros is the Panthers at home as a two and a half point underdog against the Broncos.

Speaker 700:31:27

I'm putting it back.

Mike00:31:29

A lot of putbacks this week.

Dan Le Batard00:31:34

Dolphins. Seven-point dog at home. Oh, another old boy from Greg Coty in the wild.

Mike00:31:39

This has been bloody. This has been a tough one.

Dan Le Batard00:31:43

There are a lot of bad lines here.

Mike00:31:44

We all have dogs.

Dan Le Batard00:31:46

Oh my God. I am getting aroused.

Mike00:31:51

Now he's got Joe Milton.

Speaker 700:31:52

Roy, you have to say the team.

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Mike00:31:53

Yeah, Eagles.

Dan Le Batard00:31:54

No, Joe Milton's terrible.

Speaker 700:31:55

That pause there for a second.

Mike00:31:57

He's been terrible today. The Eagles. I like this watchdog character of Tony. Just keep the energy when you're bad. I'm always bad.

Dan Le Batard00:32:08

Makes me laugh every time he says, "I meant to text him the other day."

Mike00:32:11

Another dog.

Dan Le Batard00:32:13

Somebody's been terrible to me. It's such a brutal axe to hit someone in the neck with. Like they're working hard.

Speaker 700:32:21

He has been terrible to that.

Mike00:32:23

The Colts are six-point underdogs against the Cowboys.

Speaker 700:32:25

And he tells his boss.

Mike00:32:28

Like cattle.

Speaker 700:32:30

Snitches, man.

Mike00:32:31

You know the gift.

Dan Le Batard00:32:32

And he's never wrong.

Mike00:32:33

It's a good bit. No.

Speaker 700:32:35

I was fine yesterday.

Mike00:32:36

100% accuracy. No, you weren't.

Dan Le Batard00:32:40

It's never been wrong.

Mike00:32:41

It's never been wrong. I'll give that to Tony.

Dan Le Batard00:32:43

It's the most successfully accurate thing we do. He's always right. And he says it a lot.

Mike00:32:50

Vikings, okay.

Speaker 700:32:51

The Bills, right?

Mike00:32:52

He walks into his boss's office, and he points at the room and tells his boss, "The Colts have been bad."

Dan Le Batard00:32:59

I've gotten.

Mike00:33:00

Play by play here. He put the Vikings back.

Speaker 700:33:02

I think that's Roy's first time being terrible.

Mike00:33:04

What'd you get?

Speaker 700:33:05

Falcons.

Mike00:33:06

Man, this has been a brutal, brutal bucket. They're a three-point dog at home against the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 700:33:12

Nice.

Mike00:33:12

And we've all pulled dogs multiple times.

Speaker 700:33:15

You put back a Packers.

Mike00:33:18

But they've already been taken. So can I pick again for the first time?

Speaker 700:33:20

No.

Mike00:33:21

How'd you put that back?

Dan Le Batard00:33:22

You can put it back, but you can't pick again.

Mike00:33:24

Why does the Dolphins come in?

Speaker 700:33:25

We have two Dolphins helmets?

Dan Le Batard00:33:26

We do have two Dolphin helmets.

Speaker 700:33:27

You know what? That's fair.

Mike00:33:28

That's not it.

Speaker 700:33:29

Dan, that's dangerous.

Mike00:33:32

I got the Chiefs, and I'm going to keep them. All right, finally, a good pull.

Speaker 700:33:36

Falcons.

Dan Le Batard00:33:37

I'm going to wait a second before I pull because I want to examine this thing that Tony has done that has made me closer to him. His accuracy on who's terrible is so good that I'm reminded, "Yeah, I was thinking the same thing." And so every time he says it, is it exactly the same time as I was like, "You're so right. You're so right." And Roy, he's so right about you today.

Mike00:34:02

What?

Dan Le Batard00:34:02

The Bengals is who I pick.

Speaker 700:34:05

That's for you? Okay.

Dan Le Batard00:34:06

And I think I want them. Don't I?

Speaker 700:34:08

They're a favorite at the Falcons. Three-point favorite.

Dan Le Batard00:34:10

Do I?

Speaker 700:34:11

I like it against the Falcons.

Dan Le Batard00:34:12

Where you going?

Speaker 700:34:13

Reaper, hold on.

Dan Le Batard00:34:14

I don't know that I want that.

Speaker 700:34:15

All right, so put it back.

Mike00:34:16

You don't know if you want a three-point favorite.

Dan Le Batard00:34:19

I think I can do better. I think I can do better.

Speaker 700:34:22

Whoa, this is a whoa from Funny View's experience.

Dan Le Batard00:34:25

No, I threw the helmet somebody gave me back in there.

David Sampson00:34:29

I gave it to you.

Mike00:34:30

Seahawks.

Dan Le Batard00:34:31

Seahawks.

Speaker 700:34:31

That's got to be good.

Mike00:34:32

Drew Lock against the Cardinals.

Speaker 700:34:34

Wait, no. That line can't be right the way we have it written.

Dan Le Batard00:34:38

I've got the Seahawks as a 12 and a half point dog.

Speaker 700:34:41

I think that's just the opposite. I'm going to go out on that.

Mike00:34:43

You want to say that's wrong.

Speaker 700:34:44

Sam Darnold's out.

Mike00:34:45

Seahawks are the favorite.

Speaker 700:34:45

Sam Darnold's out.

Mike00:34:46

Mitchu did look good.

Speaker 700:34:47

I'm like a dog with a bone on this one.

Mike00:34:48

Worth noting two things about the bucket this week. Last week's losers were Dan, Mike, and myself. Also, Zazlow just gave up his golden helmet of life. I am not reminding anyone. They have the golden helmet of life, so he just picked the Chiefs. He does have one more week remaining.

Speaker 700:35:03

Wait, what?

Dan Le Batard00:35:04

You didn't have to pick. And now let's pick for David Samson. You had three weeks off, and you picked anyway.

Speaker 700:35:11

No, once you pick, you pick. That's it. I'm not reminding anybody that they have it.

Mike00:35:15

No, but I'll use it next week.

Dan Le Batard00:35:16

Yes, David?

Mike00:35:17

Yeah, you have one more week.

Speaker 700:35:18

Great.

David Sampson00:35:18

I'm raw dogging it.

Mike00:35:20

You what?

David Sampson00:35:21

I'm raw dogging it. Whatever you pick, I'm keeping.

Mike00:35:24

Oh, okay.

Speaker 700:35:25

I like that.

Mike00:35:25

Like first pick? You're just going to ride with that?

Speaker 700:35:27

First pick.

Mike00:35:27

I'll do it for him.

David Sampson00:35:28

That's it.

Speaker 700:35:29

Raw dogging it.

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Mike00:35:31

He has underdog.

Speaker 700:35:33

Pick any underdog.

Mike00:35:34

So we get to pick for him the underdog, right?

Speaker 700:35:35

He gets to pick.

Dan Le Batard00:35:36

He gets to pick.

Mike00:35:37

We just did cover the Seahawks are a 12 and a half point dog at home, according to this paper.

David Sampson00:35:41

I'll take it.

Dan Le Batard00:35:41

No, the Panthers are the smallest dog. If you want the Panthers, they're at home against the Broncos.

Speaker 700:35:46

I've got the Panthers.

Mike00:35:47

Yeah, somebody's already got it.

Speaker 700:35:48

No, you can pick.

Mike00:35:49

You can double up.

Dan Le Batard00:35:51

You guys are now going to talk about what the rules of this should be when we pick two dolphin helmets?

Mike00:35:55

Well, apparently, that was with intention.

Speaker 700:35:57

That was a truthful if I'm being truthful, yes, we upped the odds of being able to select the Dolphins. We want more punishments. That team sucks. We thought they lose every game. We doubled up with Dolphins helmets. We should have to suffer the wrath of our team eating them.

Mike00:36:10

David, what's your pick?

David Sampson00:36:11

Can you just name five underdogs for me?

Mike00:36:13

The Panthers are two and a half point underdog. The Falcons are a three-point. The Browns are a three-point underdog.

Speaker 700:36:18

Fox are a six-point dog.

Mike00:36:20

Chargers, four and a half. This is good radio. The Packers are a three-point.

Dan Le Batard00:36:23

Chargers.

Mike00:36:23

Chargers.

Speaker 700:36:24

Chargers.

Dan Le Batard00:36:24

He wants to dress up. He wants to dress up. He wants the attention.

David Sampson00:36:28

They're going to win a game.

Dan Le Batard00:36:28

He wants to be in a costume.

Mike00:36:30

Now, the they're do theory.

David Sampson00:36:32

Can I explain the pick? I'm a winner either way. Because if the Chargers win, then I win this, and I don't have to dress up. If the Chargers lose, I get to do another segment where I'm going to be right that Mike McDaniel is going to get fired. And I've been calling for it for three straight weeks. I'm eventually going to get that way to see right. So by having the Chargers in the bucket of death, I am a winner either way.

Mike00:36:55

Speaking of the Chargers, Will Anderson, he was at the podium. Will Anderson's probably on pace for defensive player of the year. Dan, he's one of the best pass rushers in the league. He's been incredible all season. I want you guys to take a look and listen to this.

Dan Le Batard00:37:06

Multiple seasons.

Mike00:37:07

Multiple seasons. But I want to take a listen to this and see try to figure out who he's talking about here.

Speaker 800:37:13

Yeah, he's still a really great quarterback in this league. You talk about a big guy who has a big arm that can run around, that can throw the ball deep, makes a lot of plays with his legs. He's still a very respectable player in this league, and we have a ton of respect for them. As far as scheme, we're going to probably see a lot of bounce. McDaniel, he's went against this defense a lot of times, coached against this defense was at San Fran, I believe. So we know what to expect a little bit. But Herbert, man, he's playing out his mind. They have a really great solid O-line as well, and some really good running backs that can get downhill, that can hit the perimeter. So it's going to be a good challenge.

Dan Le Batard00:37:43

Bit of a tell in there, Tony.

Speaker 700:37:44

Michael Pennick.

Mike00:37:45

He's talking about Justin Herbert? He said he's playing out of his mind. The offensive line is great, and their running backs are amazing. Is he watching the right team?

Speaker 700:37:54

Tony.

Mike00:37:55

Hold on. I'm doing a thing here. Hold on.

Speaker 700:37:56

He's trying to power through.

Mike00:37:57

Give me a second. You can't do that to me.

Speaker 700:37:59

Tony.

Mike00:37:59

I do it to you. I do it to you.

Speaker 700:38:01

You've been bad today.

Mike00:38:02

No, it's impossible. It's impossible. Dan, is he watching the same film we're watching? Because he says that the scheme has been great. Herbert's been great. Herbert's thrown interceptions to guys on the other team.

Speaker 700:38:11

No, I didn't say he's been playing great. He's been playing out of his mind.

Mike00:38:14

Out of his mind, Dan.

Dan Le Batard00:38:15

Samson, what are you shaking your head about?

David Sampson00:38:17

Because Tony, you screwed up the edit. You could have played all of that, but stopped it like 10 seconds earlier, and your whole thing is awesome. But you kept it. I don't know if you listened in advance. You're not doing your job. You got to listen to what they cut.

Mike00:38:30

Don't tell me I'm not doing my job.

Dan Le Batard00:38:33

You've been telling everyone that they're terrible at their job. You've been telling everybody. And I've agreed with you. And on this one, I disagree with you, that you've been doing your job correctly. You're going to have to leave the room. Herbert, he said it during the clip. I'd prefer to go to a Gardner-Mitchu.

Mike00:38:47

Ooh, I like that one too.

Speaker 700:38:49

Minor penalty, two minutes. Delay of show.

Dan Le Batard00:38:52

I'd like to get to Gardner-Mitchu gutting a fish because I'm scared of him because.

Mike00:38:58

Cleave show yourself out.

Dan Le Batard00:39:00

Every once in a while, Gardner-Mitchu will throw out a couple of good games in a row, and people will believe he will be a starting quarterback. This hat, this look, is he wearing jean shorts? There have been very few quarterbacks like this, and there are presently none in the league like this. Lot of chess hair.

Speaker 800:39:22

Yeah, so I was out fishing, and I get this call to come play for Arizona. And I said, "It was cool. As long as I always have fresh worms in my locker."

Speaker 700:39:38

He's stoned there, no?

Mike00:39:41

That was my takeaway.

Dan Le Batard00:39:42

Put on the pole has Kent Stabler.

Mike00:39:45

Put on the pole at Le Batard Show has Gardner-Mitchu played stoned. What were you thinking? You think Ken Stabler, Kenny Stabler, would gut a fish during a press conference?

David Sampson00:39:54

That's what I was reminded of watching that clip, that that's how I would picture Kenny Stabler doing a presser would be like that. Sort of, I don't really give a crap.

Dan Le Batard00:40:03

Gutting a fish. Gutting a fish.

David Sampson00:40:04

It's not about gutting a fish. The point is, it was a very laissez-faire attitude. I thought that was your point here, that, "Hey, you have an opportunity now that you didn't have. How great is that?" And that he's trying to be funny and quirky, but this is a serious moment for him, in my opinion.

Dan Le Batard00:40:21

What?

Speaker 700:40:23

In his career, the chance to start is what David's talking about.

David Sampson00:40:26

Yes. Yes.

Speaker 700:40:27

He's done before.

Dan Le Batard00:40:29

He's gutting a fish in a press conference. He's going to Seattle and playing one of the best defenses in the league. Everyone knows he's a backup. He's not a starter.

Speaker 700:40:37

But I'm with David. If their head coach is looking at this, we're doing schtick. You finally have your chance to start, and you're wearing a fishing hat.

Dan Le Batard00:40:46

Are you not familiar with what the Mitchu brand is? It's exactly this. It's been this since college.

Speaker 700:40:51

If I'm the head coach of the Cardinals, I'm putting my hand on my forehead, just like Paul.

Dan Le Batard00:40:55

Put it on the pole at Le Batard Show. Should Mitchu play in jean shorts? That's who this guy is. What are you talking about? It's the whole thing. He comes out every once in a while and surprises you by breaking old Jerry Jones's heart when they put him in a game. And then Burset, that'll end your career every time. Get out of here.

Speaker 700:41:15

That can't be proper cutting technique too. I mean, he's about to cut his.

David Sampson00:41:18

And look at his fingernails.

Speaker 700:41:19

Making me nervous.

David Sampson00:41:20

You don't want a sushi chef with 30 fingernails.

Dan Le Batard00:41:23

David, what's the movie you're reviewing for us today?

David Sampson00:41:26

I'm reviewing a show on Apple TV called Brothers that just finished yesterday with Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson playing themselves in a show that's based on a true rumor.

Mike00:41:37

No, that's True Detective.

David Sampson00:41:40

No, it's called Brothers. True Detective, they were characters.

Dan Le Batard00:41:43

True Detective is the one they were good in. This one stinks.

David Sampson00:41:46

I loved it. I loved the Supertramp opening song. It's the only show that I've watched in a super long time where I never skipped the intro song. Always I press skip intro, but in this one, I loved the feel of hearing Give a Little Bit, which is a Supertramp song. Give a little bit, give a little bit of your love for anyway. And the show itself.

Dan Le Batard00:42:10

Don't do that ever again.

David Sampson00:42:12

Is them. And they are so entertaining. It is eight quick episodes. I strongly suggest it. The question is, are they really brothers in real life? Holland Taylor plays the mother of Matthew McConaughey, and everyone in it is just pitch perfect, including Matthew and Woody, in their best roles they've had since Dallas Spires Club and Cheers, in my opinion.

Speaker 700:42:33

What?

David Sampson00:42:34

Although Natural Born Killers was very, very good.

Dan Le Batard00:42:36

What?

Speaker 700:42:36

David.

Dan Le Batard00:42:37

True Detective. I watched the first 30 minutes of it and turned it off because the writing was so bad.

David Sampson00:42:42

But then you got into episode two because each episode is below 30 minutes. And by episode three, you're so invested in what's happening, and it's just.

Dan Le Batard00:42:50

I didn't even make it 30 minutes. 15 minutes, I made it through writing.

David Sampson00:42:54

So I have a different criteria. I want to be sometimes escape and entertained, and I want to not have to think about things. And it's a perfect I'm not looking for it to win an Oscar or a Pulitzer. I'm looking to be entertained for 27 minutes at a time for eight Wednesdays in a row, and it worked. Why can't I have that as my review? I don't quite understand your point.

Dan Le Batard00:43:15

See you later, David.

David Sampson00:43:16

Okay.

Dan Le Batard00:43:18

Just we're out of time. That's all. We're just out of time. That's it. And you don't understand fandom.

David Sampson00:43:24

I have a very, very tight tush.

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Episode description

"Who shrunk the reaper?"

Something happens in this hour that will get a member of the Shipping Container off the show. Tune in to find out who.
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