Transcript of The Surreal Housewives of Beverly Hill: Wednesday, November 20th, 2024

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Hum Day. Don't forget to hum someone you love. And speaking of people that I just have so much love for hard hands.

Let's try it. Let's give it a shot.

If you and I are true soulmates. We will make a hard hand perfectly.

Okay, but let's both align around our shoulder.

We can't cheat.

Okay. We'll see what happens.

I don't think I did it.

One day, we will get it, and that will be the end of the toast.

The circle is complete. There will be a prompt that's so wild. I'm going to be like, If we get it today, after 100 years, I'll be like, I'm shaving my head. And then that's the day we get it.

It's like one of those boards, zero days since a successful hard hand. Every time we try it. Yeah, I guess.

It's Wednesday. It's Hump Day. It's a gargy-pargy day. Jackson Clerd in the studio getting lit. We have a big show today.

Jackie and I- On the ones and twos.

Both watched the season premiere of The Real House Lives at Beverly Hills.

That was just what I needed last night. It was 7:45. I was sat, ready for bed, thanks to Daylight Savings. I wanted something to watch. Then I saw Dorit and Lala. I saw Lala Actually, shout out to Lala posted, She was on Watch What Happens Live, and Doreet was there, and I was like, Is tonight the night?

I also found out that Beverly Hills was premiering. What happened to commercials? I literally found out because Doreet posted a picture, and the caption was, #Rehobh, #Doreet. Or whatever. I was like, Wait, what?

Yeah. That was exciting. Then I also watched, Watch What Happens Live.

Random to have Lala on, no? I'm not complaining. I thought that was a weird...

It was random. It was so amazing to see her. She looks unbelievable. She does.

So does Dorit. I'm loving Brunette Dorit.

And also Brala. She was Brunette Lala last night.

I also have taken a full season break from Beverly Hills. I didn't watch at all last season. I came in with a refresh. I feel like every season I come in with my biases from last season. I really came in very fresh, really hating new people and liking new people because I felt completely unburdened by what has been. It was a real refreshing take. I don't feel like I missed much last season.

No. Okay. I'm excited to hear who you're vibing with. Yeah.

I think you'll be surprised.

For me, it's Dorit and Erica.

For me, it's Dorit and Erica, too. For the first time ever in my housewives career, like, Hating Kyle. Yes.

Kyle's going through a lot. We'll talk about it. We have our fifth and final stories about housewives, and then we're going to get into the recap, and then we have dear toaster. So as La Tert said, there's a lot to do today.

And I just know after this episode, I'm going to feel so much lighter like Oh, I saw such an interesting TikTok right before I started.

An interesting TikTok.

And it was this girl being like, I need to get this message to Jackson Clarne. And people tag me in those all the time, and it's like, I don't really need to see the message. This one, brand new information. It's about why John Mayer might have been at the Sabrina Carpenter show because it's weird. This information might help. You know who else was at the show? Danielle Fishel. She's an actress who plays Topanga from Boy Meets World. She was on Girl Meets World, the spit off that Sabrina- Where Sabrina got her start on Girl Meets World. Exactly. Sabrina's big Disney breakout show. I guess her and Danielle Fishel are super close. She was actually a bridesmaid. Danielle Fishel just got married, and Sabrina was a bridesmaid. A groom in that was John Maher. They're clearly connected, family friends-ish. I think that's probably where they met through the officials. Maybe Topanga was coming and brought John.

Let me tell you, I appreciate the knowledge of this connection. It's definitely good information. However, I still think his presence at the concert, she didn't bring the other groomsman. She didn't bring her husband. He wasn't just going to support his friend's wife. It's true. Rides made. Oh, my God.

I have to say something, too. I wanted to tell you that.

Thank you. No, I'm glad to know it.

Something I forgot to mention in the last couple of days when I was saying I'm having aversions to different things, like food, but also institutions, people, places, things, Gilmore Girls. Something I've really, sadly been having an aversion to is the kosher grosser. I couldn't even fathom stepping in there.

I believe it. There's so many sights and smells.

I don't know why. Maybe it's because I spent so much time there right before that the idea Oh my God, I just couldn't. My friend Margot was like, Coase your groceries today. I'm like, I can't. I literally can't. Every time we needed stuff, I would say, Med.

Too many smells. No can do.

The thing is, it's not even smelly, actually, at all, even though they have a fish market. It was just the sheer concept of it. I can't explain these aversions. Yesterday, I actually went because I'm so sick of not having any real food in my house. All I eat is chips. I'm like, I need to give some nutrients to this baby. Dr. Fox was like, Are you having salmon once a week? I'm like, Yeah, lull. I've had salmon twice since I found out I'm pregnant.

That's a tall task to eat salmon.

And by the way, the one time I ate salmon twice, it was in one day. I was obviously feeling fine. I'm like, Let me just eat all the salmon. And so I'm back. I made chicken meatball. So I was like, I'm really trying to eat well. So I had to take my ass to the kosher grocery. It was totally fine. I don't know what I was afraid of. It was actually quite pargy. So we're back.

That's good. Well, speaking of the details of your pregnancy, you and I are sitting down today for Q&A, like Jacks on Claude. Yes, I'm sorry. Not Jacks and Claude. It's Jacks on Claude asking all of the questions about your pregnancy, your journey. We're getting questions from the Facebook group so everyone can chime in, and we're going to get a 360 view of turt and what the last three months have been like, what the last maybe more than three months have been like, what the future looks like.

To be honest, I know this is going to be a crazy thing. I really feel like I haven't talked about it that much. I feel like we've actually had such a busy week with Keke Palmer. I don't know. I actually feel like I haven't... There's so much I have to say.

When you look at the questions, there are There's so many different areas of this that we haven't even covered yet. And that's just the thing about it. It's like, yeah, we've talked about it a lot, but there's so much to say. It's the biggest deal in the world. It's the biggest deal in the world. It's the biggest thing you can do as a human being.

I'm... Like, seriously, I I walk these streets, and I'm like, You guys don't even know what's going on inside my body.

Superwoman, a superhuman.

I have a message I have to deliver because I actually walked through a cloud of cigarette smoke today. And I just, honestly, I can't believe we're at a place where we're smoking cigarettes. What are you, a thousand? Get an electric one. You have to walk out of your building. She was standing on the street and it smelled so bad. It actually almost killed me, let alone second-hand smoke.

Maybe that person was inspired by Real House Eyes of Beverly Hills last night because cigarette stock is about to go through the roof after that scene of Doreet driving through the canyon smoking a cigarette frantically on the day she announced her separation.

Any cigarette connoisseurs know which brand that was? I feel like it was somewhat... She probably gets her cigarettes from Europe. It was very It didn't look like any... It wasn't American spirit. It didn't look like anything I'd ever seen before.

I would think she's a Marlborough light girl.

She gives such camel crush energy. I can't. But it wasn't a camel crush. I didn't see her crush it.

I'm going to go Marlborough light, But I feel like you're only going to be seeing and smelling more smoke ever since that. Seeing like, I want to have a cigarette now, just in solidarity with Doreet.

That's my favorite thing. I feel like on Van der Prumper rolls, they didn't shy away from it as much, especially when they were all younger. They were all chain smoking in the A lot of the housewives smoke cigarettes. You see it once and it's shocking, but you don't know that they have a habit. I remember when they were in Dubai and the women finally turned for the first time on Lisa Vanderpump, she ran back to her hotel room and sat on the balcony with Ken smoking cigarettes. She's British. It's not a big deal. I'm sure she smokes all the time, but it was the first time seeing it. I remember being like, What is going on? She's smoking a cigarette? It's so shocking to see your fave smoking cigarettes. So many celebrities smoke cigarettes. You just don't see it.

Yeah. It's always fun to see.

It's so fun to see. It's just different. It's like seeing a teacher out of school.

Yeah. There's nothing wrong or illegal about it, but it feels like they're doing something crazy, especially in this day and age. It's frowned upon.

I also imagine Dorit didn't know that that was going to be included because it was just like B-roll. She was driving, she wasn't talking to anyone.

She said, I'm going to watch What Happens Live. She was being chased by the paparazzi, so I think she was incredibly stressed, and she didn't care that there's a camera in her car. Probably wouldn't be included. I'm going to have my cigarette. I don't care if you guys see it.

She's also Israeli. Israelis love to smoke cigarettes. That's what I always forget about to read.

It's not shocking. Andy asked her about it on Watch What Happens Live. I saw a clip. She wasn't like, Oh, I just had one. I think she just smoked.

No, if you have a pack in your car, you smoke.

Yeah. No, she wasn't like, Oh, my God, that was so crazy.

Yeah. So embarrassed. It was just one time. No, these women like to party. They're smoking cigarettes. I can't remember. I think on Shots of Sunset, oh, my God, they always used to smoke cigarettes. They couldn't even hide it. They were smoking hooka. It was very cultural. They were doing cigarettes, hooka, Venterpump rules. They were always chain smoking.

Yeah. Just a fun little additive But IRL, I'm not loving.

I need people to stop smoking near me. It's seriously disgusting. It can make me throw up.

Yeah, that's rough. I'm sorry. It's rough.

It's also not to speak everything about me, but like...

Second-hand smoke. It's very real. Third-hand smoke in that situation.

Correct.

Well, I'm sorry you're going through that. It seems as though all roads are leading back to Beverly Hills, so I think we should get into the stories so that we can get into the thing that we want to talk about.

I guess, yeah.

Anything else that you would like to share with the class?

I'm trying to think. Pregnancy brain. I literally didn't do anything worth sharing yesterday, except going to the kosher grocery and complained the entire day.

I went to Home Depot, and that was major. It I had a major experience at Home Depot, and I tried to do all these things for my house. I got new lights for my vanity because there's one that's out. I bought three different kinds just to make sure I got the right one. None of them were the right one. I got these grips for my chairs so that they would stop sliding. They didn't fit. I'm done trying.

I so echo your sentiment. I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's literally so real.

However, all of that brought me to Homegoods, where I found the most beautiful plates and bowls that I keep passing in my kitchen because I let them out to dry. I wash them, and they're sparking so much joy. So who cares how many light bulbs I had to buy that didn't work? I've got the plates of my dreams.

There are just some household errands that aren't for us, and going to Home Depot is not one of them. I have such a conflict Did a complicated relationship with Home Depot because the Home Depots in the city are not stores. They're showrooms. You walk in like, I need a faucet. They'll show you because you're limited on space. How big is your Home Depot? Takes up like- It was huge.

I was picking out a pink color. There are so many colors, and then they all come in five different mats, slick, whatever. I gave the guy my paint, a bunch of different sizes, and they literally plug it in and something comes up from the basement, and it's my paint jug.

It's as big as a football field, so we don't have space for that in the city. Most Home Depots in the city are just showrooms where they have one of everything, and then they can order it for you. Who the fuck? I came here to buy it. What order? What is this, Chanel?

Can I tell you something that's going to make you like Home Depot that I read somewhere once?

What?

That once a month, maybe the first Saturday every month, something like that, they have free classes for kids where they learn woodshop skills.

Oh, that's cute. I thought you were going to say something more charitable. I don't know, like veterans or something.

Okay. Yeah, that would be nice, too. Maybe they have a veteran's discount. Maybe they have a program for veterans. But they're giving back to the children.

No, it's sweet. I think you built, you hived up what you were going to say too much. I was expecting They gave a billion dollars, too.

No, but I feel like everyone does that. Yeah, it's so true. Also because it's a tax write-off, so it's totally selfish. But they're just giving back to the children and teaching them how to build so that maybe one day someone can It's like, I'll build a cabinet for me.

Right, maybe.

Or put together the bookchips.

No, that's beautiful. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to clown it on.

Maybe you guys should go. I think you have to be a certain age, but maybe take your kids. That's a really cute thing to do. Yeah. Shout out Home Depot.

I don't think Home Depot is a place for us, you know what I mean, in terms of shopping. It's just the fact that you went, bought a thousand things, and every single one of them was wrong, that tracks.

Yes, but I had to go to pick out the paint color. No, that's not something I could have outsourced to Zack. The returns he can do, I'm not going back there, but I got my paint color, and I did what had to be done. Then I treated myself with a jaunt to Homegoods.

Not a jaunt.

It was a jaunt. The girlies were out. You could not find parking. Oh, my God.

Parking is like... It's different in the city, especially I don't really drive in the city. Ben doesn't. You have to parallel park everywhere, which is hard. But if you ever need a parking spot in the city, it is going to be a parallel park, which is hard. But once you master it, you can do it. Parking in those spaces, at a big parking lot where there's two cars between you. I think that's worse. There's so many people watching.

When Margot was here, she said she knows how to parallel park, but she does not know how to park in a parking space. I only know how to park in a parking space.

The wide turn, it's so complicated. I find it, and I do have trauma because the one and only time I've ever been in any Fender Bender when you were in the car singing Becky G's The Shower, it was me pulling into a regular old parking spot at a Keyfood. That's where my trauma comes from. I think I would rather parallel park in the city.

That is hysterical. Parking is pretty daunting. That's why I actually had a lesson, a solo lesson with my driving instructor after I got my license, where we only did parking. We focused on parking for an hour and a half, and I got the gist.

I think now we're at a place where you and I can admit that the reason I got in that vendor better was because you were playing music so loudly, taking Snapchat videos, right?

Well, you're supposed to be able to tune out your surroundings. I'm just like a plant there.

I was in high school or maybe college. I was such a fresh driver. You were just really being manic in the front seat. Dancing in the mirror, singing in the shower. Really nutty.

Can you help me? That song slaps so hard. You can't not dance.

You ruined that song for me. So thanks.

You can't not dance. You can't not Snapchat.

I do often think about the woman that we sideswept being so cool about the whole situation. She had this old-school catalog. She was loading groceries into her car, and I sideswept her. I was like, Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. It had never been in an accident before, but I know you have to call the police, right? Insurance.

The insurance.

She seriously wiped the side of her car with a rag, and she was like, It's fine.

To be honest, that would be me. It's too It was convenient. I'll just take the dent for a year, and then I'll deal with it.

She was so real, and she saved me. I would have gotten in so much trouble. I did end up getting in trouble because our car had a dent.

No, and it was a rental. Then a month later, when we returned it, they were like, There's a dent in this car.

Our mom was like, Who? It wasn't even hard. None of the sisters knew how to drive except for me. I got in so much trouble because she was like, If you would have let me fix it before, it would have been so much cheaper than returning it with the debt. I have to pay the Hertz fee. The Hertz fee. Honestly, I felt so bad. It was It plagued me until we returned to the car. It ruined my summer. All thanks to you and Becky G, so thanks.

Well, I'm glad that you have someone to blame it on so that you don't have to accept responsibility.

Obviously, Ben wasn't with us or else it would be him.

I'm glad that he's joined the picture. That leaves space for us to just have a copacetic friendship. It's so true. Maybe he was texting you that day. Maybe.

Okay, I think we could dive in. I agree. We have stuff to do.

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By the way, before we get into the story, it's just an update to a story from yesterday about Pete Davidson and Maria from The Bachelor.

She posted- At M, control Z, Undo.

Yeah. She said, Never dated Pete. False rumor. I'm friends with his sister. Case closed. Then she said, his sister said he's not in rehab and he's been sober for months. He's literally home. Yeah.

I think that Steve, oh my God, Pete Davidson often uses other people's social media to to get his messaging out there. I think that she was talking to his sister, and Pete was like, Tell her to post. He doesn't really utilize his own social media. I have memories of other comedians who he's friends with, him putting out statements on their social medias. I actually feel like this is a verified report. I believe it.

Yeah, no, I believe it, too. Where did this come from? I don't know. A part of me does still want to believe that they went out a little bit because I feel like they did.

They're definitely hooking up behind the sister's back. Sorry.

Like, ship. Yeah. All's to say.

Our first story. My best friend's brother is the one for me. Bfb. Bfb. Literally, Victoria Justice.

It's a classic tale. It's a classic tale of a best friend's brother.

Still as old as time.

Our first story is some sad news. Oh, yeah. Big celeb news of the day, which is that the One Direction members emotionally United at Liam Payne's funeral in the UK. Liam Payne's funeral was held in the UK, and the former One Direction bandmates were amongst the mourners at his funeral on Wednesday. Harry, Zane, Niall, and Louis all came together for the first time in nearly nine years to pay their respects to the late singer. They joined Liam's closest friends and family outside of London as he was laid to rest one month after his fatal fall. Simon Cowell and his fiance were there as well. The mourners were photographed outside walking in.

I also saw a video of them in what appears to be at a cemetery, at the actual gravesite. Now, of course, not to make everything about me, but my first thought was...

Dennis's funeral.

Yeah, it's so wrong. The UK is even worse, right? When it comes to... They're notorious the tabloids for really always crossing the line. This is just something I will never get on board with. I was like, Oh, cool. Nice to see all the guys together. Honestly, I wish I didn't see it. It's so awful.

I feel like the only...

I'm trying to think of recently because I remember Matthew Perry's funeral. There was one drone shot of the six cast members walking into the funeral, into the church. And honestly, as much as I wish they would have left them alone, to me, that was fine.

That's so crazy, though, to put a drone at a funeral. But then also this feels crazy because it's like we're seeing pictures pretty close up of the members. So that means there's paparazzi in their face as they're walking. And I didn't see the video of the graveside. That's really horrible. But as they're walking even from the car into the church or wherever it was held, they're being mobbed.

It's just... It really indicates a moral depravity in our culture. I'm sorry to just talk about this, but it bothers me so much. And you can tell they were all really aware in the video that I saw, aware of where this person was standing. They totally saw them physically standing there because they really did all they could to just give their back to the camera. You didn't get a lot of face. James Corden was there, too.

Yeah.

And his fiancé or girlfriend, obviously, Kate.

James Corden?

No, I'm sorry. That was a confusing way to say it.

I thought he was married. Liam Pay. And she has an egg allergy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Both of us are.

Liam's girlfriend, Kate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

I agree. Sorry. That was a bad way of phrasing him. My bad, my bad.

No, it's okay. Maybe it was just a comma that we couldn't see.

I think we're all commas that we just couldn't see.

I feel like comma should be a word, a spoken word.

Orated.

Yeah.

Comma.

I agree. They're key.

Yeah, they are. Some people also, and I'm looping myself in, don't know how to talk in terms of how to pace your sentences and when to pause. Punctuation is verbal. It's a part of your mannerisms and your intonation. Some people, myself included, just skip right by it. I just swam a whole sentence.

We've even started saying period to let you know I'm done speaking.

Do with comma next what we did with period.

Yeah, I think it would be really helpful. But I also think as more people do talk to text. Maybe the next generation will be speaking like that because you have to let them know when you're doing a comma question mark.

Yeah, it's true. The way I send, sometimes I'll be sending someone a voice memo and I think that I'm doing dictation. So I'll be like, How are you doing? The way my voice memos are so formal because it's hard for me to toggle between talk to text in voice memo.

So I'm very slow. And then I remember a voice memo.

I can never remember which one I'm doing.

I try to inject a little personality.

Totally.

Anyways, sad.

So sad. You know what? Things like this always remind me how in our culture, most of the funerals I've ever been to in Judaism, it's mandatory that you bury the person the day after they died. Now, of course, like extenuating circumstances, maybe you can get an extra day. But it's so crazy to me that when did he pass away?

This is a month ago.

Right. It's so different than what I'm accustomed to. I had almost forgotten that we hadn't had a funeral yet. So that's just a weird thing for me. Again, not to make everything about me. Sorry.

Right. No, it's different.

It's different. I just like, this was a reminder of that. Right.

Are you ready for our next story? It's some fun almost casting Casting News.

I love fun, almost casting news. Thaken.

It's actually very pertinent to the situation. Wicked, nearly had a different director and stars. It nearly starred Lady Gaga as Elphaba and Sean Mendes as Bach.

I don't like that.

The director was going to be Stephen Daldry, who did The Crown. At one point, he was tapped to do the project, and he had Lady Gaga in mind to play Elphaba, and Sean Ron Mendez would play Bach, who eventually is played by Jonathan Bailey. But then this whole concept fell through, and then John M. Chew took over, and that's what we've got.

I do not like the vision you just described, mostly because I think, and I think Ari is the perfect one to do it. I like that everybody in this adaptation is a classically trained Broadway singer. Jonathan Bailey is a huge background in theater. Cynthia Rivio obviously does. It's a musical. It's from the theater. It's a play adaptation. While I love Lady Gaga and Sean Mendez, they are pop stars by trade. Yes, Lady Gaga has a lot of acting experience, but I don't know. I'm more against Sean Mendes being in this. I don't think he has ever even acted, period, than I am Lady Gaga. She's like a chameleon, and she can do anything. But I think a sprinkle of Ariana Grande, who's an actual pop star, is perfect for Glinda. But the integrity of the entire play, I feel, remained intact, given the fact, even Ethan Slater, everyone they tapped was from the theater world.

Yeah. Also, I haven't listened to the whole soundtrack, but it seems like they're really sticking to the notes of the original songs, where Lady Gaga does not know how to do that.

She's such an individual.

She can't even do the Star-Spangled Banner without putting her Lady Gaga spin on it, which we love. But for this, I want to hear the songs as they were written, and not her version of it just yet.

Also, what I thought you were going to make it as a story is they had recently released people who had auditioned for Wicked, and I saw some names on there that I was really surprised by. Amanda Seafreed went out for Glinda. I always forget that she sing because I never saw Mama Mia.

Oh, I didn't know that she sang. I didn't forget. I never knew that.

You're going to love this, and you're going to be sad at what you missed because I believe she made it pretty far as Glenda Dove Cameron.

Oh, she would have been amazing.

Renee Rapp had also auditioned for Glenda. She shared that on Watch What Happens Live, although I don't think that would have been the right role for her.

Agreed. Even though Dove Cameron would have been amazing, I wouldn't change a hair on Nari's head. I think she's perfect for it. I was watching an interview of hers from years ago. I'm sure you've seen it. It's making the rounds where she's talking about her dream role is to do Wicked on Broadway movie, whatever. Her dream was to be Alphaba, and she has talked about how when the auditions came around, she was ready for either character. She knew she was going to be asked to do both, and she wound up getting Linda. But this has been Ari's dream. This is the month of dreams realized. Just like us having Kiki on the Toast, or he needed to be in Wicked.

Do you know who went out for Fierro? Fierro. Who? Both nick and Joe Jonas.

That's really crazy.

I want to say, I actually think nick would have done a good job because Fiera is annoying and show-offy, which is so nick.

If you auditioned and you made it far, but you didn't get the part, would you want people to know that you didn't get it?

It's a really good question. Because I feel like even the most successful people have failed auditions, and they become famous stories. It doesn't mean that you're not talented. It really just means you weren't right for the role.

Yeah. And also, sometimes it's the timing doesn't work out. Lady Gaga went on to do Joker 2 instead of this. That's what she did with her past two years.

This article is also interesting because there is a lot of information about who tried out for a lot of roles, but there's very limited information on who tried out for Alphabla. Maybe John Chuh knew it was going to be Cynthia Riva, but it is alleged that Leah Michelle did try out. She would have been great.

She would have been amazing.

She probably did try out. These are unverified, the Alphabla ones. Ariana DeBose, Angela Baston did the thing. Anna Kendrick, No.

She's really talented and so great for so many things, but she doesn't have... She's not what I associate with Alphaba.

You're going to love this one because in your adaptation, it would have been Glinda as Dove Cameron and Alphaba as Jessie Jay.

Jessie Jessie J.

Yeah.

Jessie J would have been amazing.

Yeah. I love Almost because you really... I haven't seen the movie yet, but I imagine it's perfect. Some reviews have come in. It looks perfect. They didn't do anything controversial. They didn't change. It It looks like exactly what you want it to be. So I'm imagining I'm just going to operate under the assumption that it's a great movie and that I'm going to love it. So I love Almost Casting News, but I am not mad about anyone they cast, honestly. I think Jonathan Bailey was perfect. We didn't even talk about how Jeff Goldblum is us. I think that's great. He has such a recognizable, powerful, booming voice. I have seriously no complaints. I think they actually crushed it. And I always think that casting is bad. I always have notes.

Yeah. Also, we haven't seen it yet.

Of course. But like I said, I'm operating under the assumption that it's perfect. From the commercials. I can't believe there's going to be a second one next year. I will be fatigued by then. I'm just putting it out there.

Unless it's so amazing, all you would want is more. I would like a Greatest Showman sequel. Imagine That was coming out the year after I saw Greatest Showman.

Imagine that.

Hugh Jackman should have been in it. I'd like to see him up there shaking that thing.

Who would he have been? I feel like the only age-appropriate role is Oz. There was actually a wicked theme category on Jeopardy two nights ago.

And how did you fare?

I got all but one right. The one that I didn't get right was not even a hard big money one. It was just a dumb question.

Was it which hat should she wear to the party tonight? Yes, that's exactly what it was.

No, it was like, What type of... It was John Chew, he delivered the thing, and he was like, When I want to make this movie, I wanted people to feel like they've entered the Emerald City, giving them this type of movie experience.

Wizard of Oz?

No. It's, I guess, a type of movie, Immersive? I never even heard of that.

Oh, that's just an adjective. Yeah, it was a bad question. Also, it could have been like, it wanted to be a movie that felt like a real movie.

The ones that I knew was like- That would have been the correct answer. What are Glinda's First Words to Alphaba? Two words. You're green?

You knew that?

Yeah, I did. It's in the trailer. It was a good category. I liked it. Actually, I feel like Jeopardy has been really tailored towards me because me and Ben watch every night and we count. I usually I got four, maybe five right. Last night, I got 20 right because there was a category for Billboard Music Awards where they were talking about people, and then they showed a clip of them. They're like, Who's this? It was Mariah Carey, the Jonas Brothers. I was like, Is this supposed to be hard?

I feel like Jeopardy is losing its standing.

Then another category was just so easy.

Also, the fact that a vertical can be bought by Wicked.

I know. A lot of people were impressed by that. They have done sponsored categories before. As long as it doesn't affect the integrity of the questions, I think it's fine. I didn't think the questions were amazing. Yeah. Then they cut to Ken Jennings, and he was like, after the category was finished, and he was like, Wicked in the airs, January, whatever. It was a little tacky.

Ken, sell out.

Yeah. Listen, Ken just does what he gets told to do. He doesn't want to rock the boat. He doesn't want to rock the boat. Yeah.

No, they're doing fun things. Actually, they should have sponsored an episode of The Toast where they made you dress up as Alphabum, me dress up as Glinda, and we could sing the whole time, and I could keep asking you to wear this hat to the party tonight.

Why would they pay us when we actually do that for free?

No, but we could have dressed up. Oh, my God. And you have your green background and I have my pink background. Oh, my God.

Wait, we are so wicked-coated. I didn't even realize that.

We are so wicked-coated. Missed marketing opportunity. Maybe for the sequel.

Yeah. Maybe they'll have enough budget for us next year.

That would be really cute. Now, I just want to do it for free. But it would be better if we were getting paid. So we're not sitting here in a big ballgown.

With green paint on my face. Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story? A little love news.

Who's in love besides me with you?

Oh, turdy. Me with you. No, Jay Cutler is engaged to Samantha Robertson two years after his divorce.

Yes. It's only been two years. I guess maybe two years since they legally- By the way, no, they split up in 2020.

They were the first to crack during the pandemic.

Yeah, but it probably took them two years to legally get divorced.

For sure. But they've been apart for four years.

Yeah, no, that's a misleading headline. Four plus.

I'm glad we called that out because I would have just accepted that and forgotten.

I'm on a fact-fighting mission these days. It's the Jeopardy's influence on me.

Multiple sources, close to the couple, have told People magazine that the two of them had taken the next step in their relationship. She was seen actually rocking a ring on her finger at the Yellowstone Season 5 B premiere, so that settles that.

Why was she at Yellowstone? Is she in Yellowstone? Who is this person?

She is a lady. She's a mother of two. She's a lady? She's just She's a beautiful woman. She was married to an actor before.

She's very pretty.

But I think he probably was invited to the... They went to the premiere together, and she was wearing a ring on her finger.

She's very pretty.

Yeah, she's just a beautiful woman, amongst other things, I'm sure.

Nobody lied to her. Yeah. You're saying she was qualified to own those shoes?

Yeah. Just in every picture of her, here she is at the premiere with Bethany and Jay. She just has that. She's got Riz, as I think they say.

Yeah, she was previously married to Trace Ayala.

He's an actor.

And close friend of Justin Timberlake, according to People magazine.

Interesting.

It seems like They are co-parenting well. She shares- Two daughters. Did he die? No. She said, Shared a tribute. Oh, yeah. Okay, sorry. Tribute makes it seem like somebody died. Yeah, he's alive, and they have kids together. They seem to get along well. That's nice.

Yeah. They'll have a blended family.

Yeah. I like Jay Cutler. I worry for him. He did have that DUI, and then we just never heard anything about it.

That was literally yesterday, too. Maybe he was celebrating his engagement Management.

Yikes. Yeah. It was definitely gave me pause. Yeah. Oh, and I did watch that Kristen Cavalieri TikTok.

How funny.

Very funny and full of tea.

Full of tea. So real.

So real. She's so pretty. And that neighborhood they were running around, got to buy a house there. It was so nice. Yeah, goals. That's my favorite part of that TikTok trend is people run outside in their neighborhoods, and it's just nice to see where the other half lives.

Totally. Anyways, Mazel tope to Jay. Yeah, that's nice. I hope that Samantha and Kristen get along well, and all as well.

Do you think Kristen is easy to get along with in that type of situation, or she makes it difficult? I could see her being a little Meredith Blake.

I don't think she makes it difficult, but I think she's pretty exacting it. She's also, lest we not forget, the original cool girl. She doesn't want to hang out with some loser. Wow. If someone could match her, I think she would be happy to welcome them in.

Yeah, because their kids are young. They are going to be involved in each other's lives. It's not like the kids are off at college and I would never have to see the new wife. You do.

But I think these two have potential for getting along because she seems, I don't know Samantha Robertson, but she seems like a real one.

Based on her Instagram, she gives good vibes, and that's really half the battle.

I mean, it is. Some people can't even do that.

So true.

Are you ready for our fourth story, which is taking the world by storm? I am. It's some aviation food news.

Okay. It's a little misleading.

Delta Flights will be serving Shake Shack burgers in first class. So, Delta Airlines has announced a partnership to serve Shake Shack burgers on long haul flights to a lucky moneyed few. That's right. An all beef cheeseburger with Shake Shack's special sauce will be available to you as long as you're flying first class. Yes.

And as long as you're flying one specific route.

Yeah. It will only be available on flights longer than 900 miles departing Boston.

Right. Okay. So thanks. This was just big headline news. And then, for lack of a better word, you read it and it's a nothing burger, not a Shake Shack burger. So to all those flying over 900 miles from Boston, Logan Airport, enjoy.

Yeah. No. It could be the start of something new. But also it's so funny to me how it's like first class is meant to be luxury, and this is fast food. You're eating fast food. We're excited about it. You could also probably pick up a Shake Shack in the airport and bring it to your coach seat.

You actually can at JFK. There's two Shake Shacks in the big Delta terminal, and pretty much everyone boards a flight with a big old bag of Shake Shack, but you do have to arrive 30 minutes early. It's the slowest place on the planet. Literally one time, I got a soda from there. It never fucking came.

I guess this lets you jump the line and have it served you on your flight. But I feel like airlines really have pulled one over on us if we're supposed to think that this is the epitome of luxury.

We are being I'm bamboozled into thinking that this is cool and luxury, and it's literally not.

They just got like, Shake Shack delivery.

What they should be doing is partnering with Jean Georges. That's first class. And please, I just want to say, I'm not looking for a Jean Georges meal in first class. I'm more so looking for a Shake Shack. But conceptually, this makes no sense.

Yeah, no. It's not giving what they think it's giving. But I feel like other people are like, Oh, my God, sweet, sick. This is awesome. But I'm just like, You guys, just go down the terminal. There's a Shake Shack.

Yeah, let me buy a $1,500 ticket for a $4 hamburger. I mean, actually, it's probably in this economy, not a $4 hamburger, but you know what I mean.

Yeah.

It's not special. You can literally get it five minutes before your flight. I'm sure at the Boston airport, which is why they have this service, I'm sure they have a Shake Shack there, too, because I know they have.

By the way, they better. They better, so it's fresh.

They definitely have... There already is a pre-existing Delta Shake Shack Q-Lab because it's in the Terminals, the Delta Terminals. This is just the logical next step. But it's literally one route in one city, and it's fast food.

It's fast food that anyone on the plane can access right before their flight.

But this is truly emblematic of the consumer's relationship with the airlines. We beg for scraps, and we are so grateful for the shit that they give us. Now, I'm not saying shake-shack is shit. You guys know what I'm saying, but it is fast food.

No, that we're meant to rejoice over this.

Look how they've tricked us. We're all like, Yay, yay, yay. When seriously, why don't you just treat us like human beings first? Keep your hamburger. Why don't you give us three inches for our knees in coach? It's actually a psychological experiment what That's what they've pulled on us.

No, and it's so crazy how now when you buy a ticket and you're like, Okay, I just want a seat. I'm just going from A to B. You buy your ticket, but then you have to pay for your seat.

Pay for your seat, pay for your bag, pay for your drink.

Even if it's in economy, I guess unless you want to be in the middle seating the bathroom row, that seat is free. But all the other seats, you have to pay for your seat.

They've literally tricked us. It's like there's a baseline fair. Yeah, fair. And then there's the cost of your seat. Excuse me? I'm buying a seat. It's really crazy.

What am I understanding? What's the fair? What is the fair? You could do fair without seat selection, and then it's just up to- If you do fair without seat selection, you're one of the people who gets bumped off.

They have another flight attendant who needs a seat, a jumper seat. Bye. Bump. Bump to next Thursday, you'll get home. It's really insane.

They need to be put in check.

We need to stop rejoicing at news like this because they won. Look at us.

They didn't win an over the toast, though. By the way, we're delta loyalists.

Yeah, and that's mostly because we can't even have Shake Shack because it's not kosher.

I didn't see the veggies burger option.

They do have a mushroom burger that people actually really like. I've had It didn't seem like it was an option, though.

No, it wasn't. All beef all the time. Thank your local cattle rancher.

And you know it's not local. It's totally from Brazil.

And you know they're not thanking their rancher. No, it's disgusting. Even the Brazilian one.

Disgusting.

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Let's Let's do it, turdy.

What if we just did it?

Let's do the fifth story, which is that Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star, Sutton Strack, is claiming that Kyle Richards tried to hook up with Kevin Costner in Aspen. So on last night's episode of Rehob After Show, Sutton was on with Garcelle and Jennifer Tilly, who was on last night's episode. She told this story about how Kyle tried to hook up with Kevin Costner while they were in Aspen at the same time. She said, Kyle and When I have this conversation. She was in Aspen and Kevin Costner was there, and she was trying to hook up with Kevin Costner. The trio had been discussing Kyle's rumored romance with country singer Morgan Wade, who has long been the center of romance gossip with Kyle. She said, Garcelle said, But you want Kevin Costner? And Sutton added, I know. So Sutton said, This is what I'm saying. I don't think that Morgan's the end all be all because Kyle really wants... It's not all about Morgan. There's some Kevin Costner mixed in there.

Okay. The Housewise love Kevin Kostner, which totally makes sense. Luandela Costner, Kyle Kostner. Love it. I ship him with any of them.

He's their Glenn Powell.

It's so true. I love that they're all consistently chasing after him. I love that. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills last night was so refreshing for me. I had taken a break from this show, and I feel good about the fact that I feel like nothing happened last season. I really don't feel like I missed much. I came in. I didn't really have many questions. The only thing is, who is Merce?

Merce. Oh, my God. This is like a funny story. Is Merce a dog? No. He is a legendary choreographer and dancer, huge in the dance community. He was Sutton's mentor. When she moved to New York after college, she worked for Mers, and that's where she started her career. Even Erica was like, Mers is a legend. Everybody knows Mers. Mers had passed, and they went to Spain to scatter Mers's ashes, and Sutton brought them with her because she was charged with doing that. She brought Mers to the dinner table in her purse, and Eric was like, Merce is in the purse. Then when she went to scatter his ashes, of course, they blew back on all the women. Merce has just been a big figure, one, in his life, and two, now on Beverly Hills.

Funny. Okay, thank you. I literally thought Merce was a dog. Because that's so something the housewives would do, take their dogs' ashes.

I mean, that's literally what Sonia did, and then it blew back on everyone.

Now, I was really shocked when Garcelle put into perspective that now that Doreet is not married, that none of the women in the group are married. I feel like that's actually a really bad sign for a franchise because it reminds me a lot of the downfall of the Real House Lies of New York. Also, very interesting that they premiered Beverly Hills right before New York.

They're really desperately trying to offload some viewers onto New York. Oh my God, they tried desperately. I actually had to leave New York on, so I wouldn't miss Watch What Happens Live because Watch What Happens Live wasn't even on the TV guide. It said Real House Lies of New York. But then I'm looking at Lala's Instagram, they said 10:15. I left on Real House Lies of New York. I watched Against My Will in order to watch Watch What Happens Live. So do not count that rating, Nielson. I didn't watch it.

They are doing everything they can to try and get ratings for Real House Lies of New York. Nobody's watching it. It is large. People hate it. I just thought that was interesting. But I feel like it's not a good sign for a franchise when none of the women are married. Not that you need to be married to be valid, but I just think that Beverly Hills had always had a good mix of single women, but also really strong institutional marriages. It just reminds me a lot of New York, where one by one, they slowly all got divorced. Then it was this cast of single women just being nuts and drinking too much and not really being good housewives.

Yeah, I agree with that, but I don't think that they're there yet, especially because- No, no, no. Doreet and Kyle are still separated, so it's still ongoing, and their marital affairs are story lines. Cathy is married. She's not a full-time housewife. But I feel like, yes, it is really crazy because at one point- And the new housewife, Bowes, is married. No, she's widowed.

Oh, God. Yeah, sorry. Oh, my God.

Yeah. I agree. That's really crazy. I guess we'll start with like, Dorit and PK because we had reported back in the spring when they separated, but I completely forgot. And when she told- Completely forgot. When she told Erica, it was as if I heard it for the first time, and then I was like, Oh, yeah.

You guys, I texted Jackie. I'm like, Did we know this information? I completely forgot. They made that statement, and then nothing had. They just radio silent.

Yeah. The way that Dorit is approaching it, I think she's obviously being really strong, really level-headed and stable for her children. But she's being so matter of fact. I feel like I have no idea what's actually really going on.

Well, I think it's PK's choice to separate. That was the vibe that I got, which I was shocked by.

Yeah. It's like he got sober and then realized all of their issues in their marriage. That their marriage isn't healthy. All their issues in the marriage are still there. Like, yes, they were improved by his sobriety, but they're very real and they're very much there.

Dorit's like, Okay, well, you aren't willing to work on it. Think of all the shit I've put up with your DUI, your bankruptcy, your gambling debts. She's so real for that, first of all. Now you see things and you're out. Excuse me, I've been seeing them clearly the whole time, and I've stuck by you. Right. I agree with her.

I agree with her, too. Right now, they're still- I don't know if Erica was like this last season, but she's so tempered, and she gives good advice to everyone without taking aside.

She's a good friend. She looked amazing.

No, she was like this last season. I fell in love with Erica last season and her journey. Last season was really about her coming back to herself, and she was getting out of the woods on some of this legal stuff. Then that's why I watch Bed It All on Blonde because I really just like, I'm so here for her comeback. She's actually overly patient with the women now and overly forgiving when back in the day, you crossed her once. They were rough. But I guess you can't stay on the show if you're really going to write off everyone who didn't completely have your back. No, she's such a pleasure to watch, and I'm so happy for her.

I agree. She's so mature. It's like a level-headedness that we don't often see on any franchise. I embrace it. I loved it. But I'm just having this thing with Kyle. I feel conflicted, obviously, because... And last night, before the episode was on, they were playing the most recent Reunion Part 3. I watched the last 20 minutes when Andy was really drilling her about Morgan Wade, and she gave us nothing. She was on the verge of tears the whole time. She was, I don't know. We got No, nothing. I feel conflicted because obviously, this is somebody who's going through some sexual awakening and being peppered with questions on reality TV is the worst thing for that. Everybody's entitled to their privacy and entitled to come to this on their own terms. But Kyle's the star of a reality show, multiple reality shows. She's notoriously questioned other people when they were going through things. She's not being afforded. She's given the same grace that she's been giving other people, which isn't a lot. I feel conflicted because I'm like, Girl, take your time. It's nobody's business. But also, you were out here shoving Denise Richards out of the closet.

I actually don't feel bad for her, even though I know I should. It's just like she's in the worst type of environment for what she's dealing with. Even this conversation she had with Garcelle, she's like, I'm going to have it with all the ladies, and I'll have it with you first because I feel safe with you. It was clear she had something to say. She couldn't even get it out. I'm like, What the hell are you talking about?

I think what she was saying is she's pretty much begging Garcelle to not bring it up. She was quivering and she couldn't even get it out. She's so emotional, but basically, she's figuring all of this out. She knows that those are the rules. We bring up stuff, but she's begging her not to because she hasn't figured it out for herself. She has grown children, but mid-grown, where it's like they watch a show and they know, but they're still her babies. I think she's just so scared. But also, I felt like last season, Kyle is a different person, not just because she doesn't drink and because she works out and sheings out with Morgan Wade. Her personality, even the way that she speaks has really changed, and even more so this season where she's, I don't know, just not that confident. Timid. Yeah, she just used to be- Head bitch in charge. And now it's not like that. So it's sad to see, while also She is discovering herself, and she wanted this separation with Mo. I'm sure there's more to the story, but it wasn't like she was begging him to stay. So it is confusing, but also because she is confused.

Yeah, and it's a frustrating thing to watch because I'm just looking for clarity, and she doesn't have that.

I think that's what I got from her conversation with Garcelle. It's like, Please, I'm not doing okay. Please don't go hard on me, because that's what Garcelle does.

That's why I guess she's so mad at Doreet for bringing up that random text message. That's what they do on these shows. You share a text message. It wasn't that big of a deal, but I guess that's what Kyle was so upset about. She felt like it was such a betrayal.

Yeah. I also, even though I watched last season, I still don't know what Doreet's real issue is with Kyle. Okay, so she downplayed their friendship in a few interviews.

Which is so rude, by the way.

But of course, something must have happened before that for her to downplay. I thought Kyle's beef about Bravo Con and the shot for right ear Hilton was so... She's not right for that.

Oh my God. It was so clearly a joke. Dorit wasn't going to answer the question. And then Kyle spilled on her. She's like, Actually, never mind. The fact that she didn't see that fake answer she gave about Cathy being first and Kyle being last was clearly because she spilled on her. Everyone in the room knew it was a joke. Andy was knew. Kyle is grasping at straws, and that makes me think that she has really no leg to stand on in this argument with Dorit. And the friendship that Doreet painted, she was like, You guys don't realize.

Because what is she going to say? Honestly, when I saw that, it wasn't even like it's about who does she like more, Kyle or Cathy. It's like, How are you going to rank him third? It's just a shady question, and she was able to get out of it by drinking. Then I thought she handled it perfectly.

I completely agree. I think the way Dorit describes their friendship from Dorit's POV, which is like, it's very much like Kyle runs this friendship, and if I do her say anything she doesn't like, she won't talk to me for months. I'm just like, I'm done feeling discarded. I feel like when you get separated, you find your voice a little bit. I think she's applying a little bit of what she's going through with PK to Kyle, being like, You treat me like a doormat. When we came on this show, there was a power dynamic. Kyle really runs this shit. Maybe we got into a pattern where I was okay with being your sidekick doormat. I don't like that anymore. Kathy Kyle was like, Wait, what? But this is how it's worked for us for so many years. But the whole downplaying on Amazon Live, that was really rude.

Yeah.

I was shocked.

I'm with Jareep, but she's coming in with this energy to everything, not just even Kyle, just different. Of course, She's going through a lot, but I don't know. She was just being-New energy. Yeah. In some areas, I liked it. In other areas, I'm confused. But I guess even when she was talking to Cathy, unloading about, she's It's very... I don't even know the word. Just matter of fact, not emotive. I guess that's how she's getting through. There's a lot that she's dealing with, but it makes it hard to understand her right now, even though I You know I will ride for her forever.

I really want to talk about this party.

Oh, my God. Claudia.

First of all, the fact that everyone was making fun of Dorit's outfit. Now, I don't know surrealism. I don't know if it was in theme or not, but I know she looked pretty. The fact that Sutton Strack had anything to say about anyone's outfit, seriously jail for you and everyone you know, she looked so stupid. Her dress was ugly with the horns. I don't understand surrealism, but I know what's beautiful and I know what's not. I know that Sutton looked not beautiful. It was so stupid. I don't know why everybody kept commenting about Dorit's disk. I thought it was actually very chic. Okay, I don't know. Maybe it wasn't surreal. Sure. I thought she looked pretty. Isn't that just the baseline to look pretty? I actually thought They all looked amazing.

They all looked like clowns. So for one clown to point at another clown and say, You're a clown, it's like, Hey, we're all clowns here. The party was so crazy to me. It was so weird. I guess, I don't know surrealism. I missed that day in art history class, so maybe I'm just uneducated, but it was really weird. It's giving one of these weird Hollywood- When Jennifer Tilly showed up in the white chick's dress with the duck around her neck, I was seriously like, These people are so unserious. All the eyes on the dance floor. Everyone was wearing animals on their head, and it was just... I didn't find it cool. Then that singer singing about her pussy.

No. That singer was seriously such a low budget Erica Jane. Just ask her to perform.

I know. Then also, it's like, if Sutton went to anyone else's party and they had that singer, she would be so nose in the air, snobbish. But because it's Sutton's, it's surrealist.

I have something to say that's really mean because obviously, I don't own a home, and I rent my apartment place. But Sutton She lives on the side of a highway. They kept doing zoom up.

Yeah, I saw there were a lot of cars.

I was like, She lives on the 405.

I guess so, but I just figured it's part of the mountain of Los Angeles.

I just expected more from Sutton.

Is that bad? I don't know. These housewife parties always make me a little sad because it's like, they're all getting dressed up just to talk to each other. And then they have these people in the background who are just so desperate to be on Bravo. And then they're so dressed up. It just didn't look fun. It was really nice of Erica to say that Sutton It was a great party because that didn't feel like a great party to me. The food looked good.

Yeah. Actually, the food did look good.

The salad looked really good.

They never eat. I saw everybody had a plate. It must have been a late party. Everyone was really hungry. I thought that was funny, too. The only people who looked normal were Garcelle and Cathy because they didn't show up in costume. They just wore dresses. Thank you. Hello.

I thought Erica looked great for any theme.

Yes, but she always slays the house down boots. Now, I just really love Garcelle, and I feel in arguments, I'm not always on her side, but When they were doing... Normally, if you come on and you have a whole solo scene about your job, seriously, I don't care. I do not care. But she's so valid in being so proud of herself. When Erica was like, It was so cool to see that chair, that director's chair that said, Garcelle Productions on it, I actually felt so crowd for her. I just recently saw Coming to America for the first time, and I know that's how she got her start. I actually really enjoyed that scene to be a woman of a certain age producing films.

And working more than ever when you've always been told it's over for you.

She obviously has found a niche where she created a production company, and she's being contracted by Lifetime to make these. Okay, they're not Oscar-winning movies, but there's a crowd for that, and there's money in that. If she's just out here banging out X amount of movies per year for Lifetime, that's huge money. She's a single mom. I actually think she's so impressive. I'm sorry, she's fucking funny. When Kyle was not saying Morgan's name, are you kidding? In her confessional, she was like, I'll say it. It's Morgan. We've literally talked about her for two years now. What the hell are you talking about? She's so real.

Kyle had Morgan on the show last season. They got tattoos together.

She called out, Well, your music video didn't help. Sometimes she calls out my faves, and I'm like, I need you to stop. But sometimes she's so real. I'm sorry, you can't deny that she is actually such an amazing addition to this show. She brings a level of... She's like, Are These women don't live in the real world, and Garcelle does. Garcelle works for a living. She's worked for herself for a long time. She's so no nonsense that it's such a refreshing take, except when she's coming for your faves. You're like, Okay, slow down.

Well, so that's my issue with Garcelle at the moment is that she's coming for my fave, Dorine, and I find it so unwarranted. She was really mean to her last season. It was really unwarranted. So that's bothering me still. They need to make it right before you can. Even alluding to the robbery, not being authentic was so... But there were so many just mean things. Everything Dorit says, and does and wears, she's just laughing at her in her confessional being like, Sleeping because Doreet's talking. So I don't like that. But I agree at this point, Garcelle just says the thing that everybody is thinking. She's actually moving the show forward because they're all having these real life squabbles, but she's the one being like, Well, we're on the show. It's Morgan. We're on the show. She came on the show.

She is a professional.

Yes. So that is very helpful of her. But you know what? I had a thought last night. I feel like so often we're like, So and so needs to leave the show. And then a few years later, we're like, Oh, maybe they should come back. I feel like we need to normalize people leaving, and then two years later, coming back. Some people we needed a break from, you needed it, but I could go for Rina now. And just because I didn't want to be back on then. It doesn't mean I was wrong for that then. I think she was going down a place. But now it would be refreshing. I feel like that's actually something they should do more of, not like, Oh, we fired them. They can't come back. But some people need a pause.

Sabbatical.

And we should normalize that.

Yes. It's like an angel dilemma that the network has where someone is doing their job so well at being a villain. They become so hated her getting booed at BravoCon. So much a demand for her to be fired. You know what? That next season was horrible. There is this necessary evil. I agree, a one-year, two-year break because we need Rinna, honestly.

Yeah, I would go for LVP. I feel like even every time we say someone should go off the show, eventually, it's like, Oh, well, actually, if they came on right now, that would actually be really interesting. Normalize that. We don't have to re-end that in the video. You don't have to bring a whole new cast of Rihonie. Bring back some of the oldies. Greatest tits. Agreed.

Speaking of, I actually really like the new housewife. I was reading her Wikipedia. When she was saying the CEO of Endeavor, I was like, Oh, my God. But that was just the tip of the tale. She worked at Apple Music for many years, PepsiCo, and she had very high C-suite level jobs at all these companies. Apple Music, PepsiCo, Netflix, Endeavor. Oh, my God. She's literally retired in what she's in her 40s. Insane. That's also a housewife we haven't seen before. We usually get rich women with wealthy husbands, but often now we get women who are rich on their own, but never from the corporate space. I've never seen a girl boss in She-E-O I know for. I find her very interesting. I would like to know more about her. Then I was looking into her husband. She was the breadwinner. He was an advertising executive, like nothing crazy. I need to see her house. I need to see her car. I have needs.

I think she's full-time, and we'll be seeing that. That's exciting.

Her and Cathy know each other?

Do they? No, she said, I don't think so, because she was judging Cathy for taking out her extensions.

But Cathy was like, I know you, boss.

I know, but that was a weird moment.

That was weird. I feel like everybody tried to make it weird, but I knew what Cathy was saying. She's known as being a girl boss and CEO.

I didn't think it was weird. There were a lot of weird moments at that party where I felt really awkward. Even like, Dorea was making me feel awkward. When she walked past the table and stood there? I felt really awkward. It was a really awkward party. Not helped by the big dresses and the hats.

Everybody looking so stupid. Yeah. Was there anything else I wanted to say about Beverly Hills? Beverly Hills.

Beverly Hills.

I don't think so. It was a fine episode.

I like the franchise. I like the ladies. It doesn't always have to be the craziest for me to watch it. It's how I feel about Southern Charm, too.

What I was going to say is because I watched that last reunion, I feel like they were a little hasty in letting go of Crystal Kong Minkoff. I found her annoying.

I I didn't even realize she wasn't there.

Yeah, I found her annoying, but she was similar to Garcelle in the sense she had no loyalty to anyone. She was call out things that made no sense. On the reunion that I was watching, she was at first seat next to Andy, and She was calling out Kyle so hard. I don't know. I feel like we need that.

No, I forgot about her.

She was really wealthy, and I like that about her.

She's not on the season?

No, she was not asked back.

I was more so thinking about the other new housewife who didn't even get a fair shake.

She also started a conversation. I don't know if it was on the show or off the show about trans people in sports, which is just a hot button issue, and she wanted to go there.

I think that Bravo can't handle it.

Bravo wasn't interested in having those It was a complex and dynamic conversation. They were like, Listen, I think it's best if you were just a one-season wonder. Did she say something on the show? Because I didn't watch, but I knew- No, no, no. All that stuff- I think she was posting about it on her social media.

Oh, my gosh. Bravo. They're panties in a bunch. Yeah.

They can't handle any real controversy like that. I think that she wasn't a great housewife, maybe. But the thing is, and what I learned- She never got a fair shot. With Eileen Davidson is you really need to give someone a fair shake. It's two years.

Yeah. I wouldn't have... And she was married.

Maybe it's time to bring Eileen Davidson back, although I don't think she wants to be on the show.

No. You have to bring... You got to bring back the crew.

Her girls are not there yet.

But until we see through this Erica, Dorit, Kyle, storyline, maybe when they need something fresh, they should go back into the archives. I would really like that.

Now, I want to bring something up that I'm afraid to bring up, but I do feel like we should push Deer Toaster to tomorrow.

I agree. In hindsight, if we're going to continue recapping on Wednesday, let's move Deer Toaster to Tuesday. So you get it sooner.

Oh, yeah. Tuesday.

Yesterday, we could have totally done it. We had our guests, but next Tuesday.

I think this week, we swear to God.

We will do it We will do it tomorrow.

We will do it tomorrow. And then moving forward, Deer Toaster should be on Tuesdays because I was thinking that last night, if we're going to now do TV recap of Beverly Hills every Wednesday, then that makes it difficult to do Deer Toaster.

The cards can't handle such a thing and makes the upload time longer. And no, it doesn't make sense.

I'm scared because we've really alienated the Deer Toaster's community.

What's the good news is that to tie you over until literally tomorrow on Patreon, there's a whole episode of Deer Toaster right now. 50 minutes, Deer Toaster's only. Exclusive. And then when you finish I'm listening to that after you've listened to today's episode, Turdie's Q&A will be up.

I think it's the right choice. I just didn't want to rush through the Beverly Hills recap because it was a season premiere, and I think it required our full- No, you're speaking facts. Also, who is Jennifer Tilly?

I don't know her. We're just supposed to know her, I guess. They're acting like she just... The fact that the opening scene with Sutton and Jennifer talking about a surrealist party, when Sutton said, I'm taking them back to Spain, I was like, Why? It's a first episode. Why are we going to Spain?

I checked the TV guide. I thought maybe this was the second episode because it opened with this casualty.

Yeah, it was so weird. I thought they were going to Spain. I didn't realize she was saying she's having a party.

I just put together that's what she was talking about. Well, I was a little disappointed because I'm like, Oh, Jennifer must be a new swirly. And Sutton is driving to her house. They pass Cathy's house. I'm like, Oh, we got a rich lady in Bel Air. I didn't find her home to be so impressive, not to be a bitch.

But I read somewhere, I don't even know where I was reading, that she's very wealthy.

Jennifer Tilly? Yeah.

Let's just do a quick Google.

Yeah. Are Who is supposed to know who that is?

Something about her seems familiar. Lala seemed to know who she was, but maybe she was just... She was like, I love Jennifer, but maybe she was just talking about the one scene that she saw.

American Canadian actress and professional poker player, known for her distinctive breathy voice and comedic timing.

She's in a lot- She was a liar, liar. She's in all these Chucky movies, Monster Zinc.

Oh, wait, wait. I'm sorry. I see an old photo of her. I know who she is. She's an actress. Yeah, classic.

Yeah, she does look familiar. She reminds me of I know her.

But she's also a professional poker player?

Maybe that's where the money comes.

Maybe. Okay, that's better. Was she on last season? No.

Oh. They just jumped to a little bit. Jennifer Tilly.

Interesting.

Weird.

Very strange opening. I love Cathy's house. It's beautiful.

When she was sitting there with the ivy and the patches and the glam and the rollers.

She did look like a cadaver getting ready for a funeral. Just based on how she was laying and not moving and the ivy and her skin was so pale, I was like, Oh, she died. She literally looks like a dead body.

No, I feel like that's emblematic of the women of Beverly Hills. Not the show, but the women, where it's like, that is how they come to life.

But when Sutton was walking through, or no, was it Doree walking through her house, and so we just got a bunch of different visuals of her furniture and shit, I was like, Oh, my God.

I saw a knockoff of her ottomen said Homegoods yesterday. Absolutely. Really gorgeous.

Okay, so that is our show. Tomorrow will be Deer Toaster, and it's going to be so good. You guys are going to be so glad we made it.

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