Transcript of Defying Gravity: Monday, November 25th, 2024

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Monday. That dead ass feels like a Wednesday because the week is so short. We have so much to fucking talk about. Hey, Jax, how you doing?

Good. We have so much to talk about. I was working all night last night, watching Wicked.

I worked all night.

It doesn't feel like a Monday. I worked all night. I saw it late because we went after the kids went down, and I didn't get home until the night. It was crazy.

I mean, that's so crazy of you. I was thinking, she's such a good mom. Just miss bedtime one Just go to the movies at four o'clock. I went at 5:00. It was perfect. We got home at 8:30. I went to bed at 9:00. It was perfect.

No, seriously, I got home 11:45. That's so stupid. No, I didn't think that... I don't know what I would have done differently. I wouldn't have left my children to go sit at the movies. Even sitting there and they were sleeping, I'm like, now I remember why I never want to go to the movies. This experience is not for someone with young children, least of all me. But I had to see the movie.

And I I did what needed to be done. This is all Jackie. I wasn't supposed to see the movie. I bought tickets intentionally for Thanksgiving weekend. I thought it would be such a nice way to spend the Thanksgiving weekend. Everybody's out of the city. There were tons of tickets. Then Jackie sprung on me on Saturday. She's like, Hey, I think I'm going to see Wicked tomorrow night. If you could see it, too, so we can recap it together. By the way, trying to get tickets to Wicked in Manhattan is like trying to get tickets to Hamilton. It was insane. I went to the most random theater at this random time, and the theater we booked had three rows. I was like, Where? Are we going to someone's living room? It was so scary. We were so afraid up until the moment we walked in. It was totally fine. It was just a really small theater. And we are going to do a big official Wicked recap. It's going to be our first story. If you're looking to avoid spoilers, check the timestamps in the description of this episode. There will be a full timestamp for anything you could possibly spoil.

That's the first story. We won't get into it. It'll be hard not to. It's also going to be so hard not to sing because I was so well behaved at the theater last night.

No, Claudia. I can't stop singing all morning, and though I'd never show it, I'd be so happy I could melt.

I actually I feel, and I promise we won't dive into the whole thing right now. I just want to start off today's episode by actually apologizing to Cynthia and Ariana because my ass was in the theater holding a shit ton of space for the lyrics of Defying Gravity. And I actually think my husband was also holding space for it, too. Interesting. I feel as though they've been acting so crazy on this press tour. I fully understand why. And given the performances that they delivered, they are allowed to act however they want. If I'm that talented, yeah, I'm also crazy. Okay?

Yeah. Well, that's the thing. With that level of talent, you have to be crazy. Like Elon said, I'm not also going to be a cool, normal dude. But it's also an oxymoron to have to hold space for defying gravity when if you're defying gravity, it doesn't need to be helped.

You're talking about it from a scientific standpoint.

Yeah, it's actually funny.

Now, let's try for the next five minutes not to talk about Wicked because we'll talk about it.

I'll try and remember what else I did this weekend.

Well, I really did not do much except that I watched The Parent Trap.

I remember what I did this weekend.

And I want to talk about The Parent Trap.

I mean, we literally talked about it two weeks ago on Toaster We, and we did the whole episode dedicated to it.

Yeah, and I rewatched it on Saturday night because Ben and I just couldn't decide on something, and we ended up just watching it and loving it. Obviously, I know I'm highly emotional. I cried so many times during Wicked, and I'm crying. That's what I do. But I feel as though, don't write off my tears that I'm about to describe as just pregnancy hormones because I actually... The scene, first of all, the concept of The Parent Trap, and we have talked about this, splitting up those kids. Child abuse. Neglect. It's three identical strangers made into a fictional romanticized film. It's terrible what they did to those girls. But the scene where the American girly goes to London, comes home from camp, and is in the house for the first time looking for her mom, and she runs up the stairs into her mother's arms. I was literally sobbing. It's so sad. It's not cute. It's devastating. No, it's too much.

It's child abuse, neglect.

I was shocked.

It's not just she pulled the wool over her eyes. Reunited. She convinced her she's Annie. It's like, this is your long-lost mother.

It was absolutely devastating. She's trying to connect with her mother whilst pretending to be someone else.

It's a lot for a young child.

It's a lot for a pregnant person, seriously, to watch. I was having a lot of complex emotions. Obviously, the nostalgia of the film. You know why I watch it? Because Lindsay Lohan has been doing a big press tour for- Her new Netflix holiday movie. Yeah, I was like, What is she even doing press for? She went viral for talking about Parent Trap on Watch What Happens Live. I watched that clip, and she was like, Looking so good. I'm having a Lindsay I just I found her on Instagram a couple of months ago because she's looking so gorgeous. Then I was like, You know what? I'll watch Parent Trap. I really wish that I didn't.

Lindsay Lohan, everyone is talking about her. I watched her whole episode of Watch What Happens Live because I thought it was so cute that she did it with Lacey Gretchen Wieners.

That's why I watch What Happens Live is really always supreme. They do shit like that.

But they were also both promoting Netflix holiday movies. It worked on Netflix's part. It was such a cute episode. They're both doing so well. But of course, Lindsay, who at at one point was very unwell. It looks better than ever. So clear, so funny. Just the Lindsay that we always knew. It's crazy that she's just back.

This is how we all wish that she was going to grow up to be. There's actually a big conversation on TikTok happening now about Lindsay, Lohan, and Christina Aguilera. I don't know if you've seen.

About their faces?

Yeah. They're two women who I think went to a little bit of extremes when it came to filler and Botox and plastic surgery over the course of their young adult lives and now have really reined Everyone's trying to figure out who this doctor is who's clearly working with women in Hollywood, like Christina Aguilera and like Lindsay Lohan, who have not only pulled back so much of the plastic surgery, but look amazing for their age.

Right. But no, I don't think it's that they've pulled back the plastic surgery. I think it's just they've done something else that's better.

No, sorry. They've pulled back the look of being really plastic surgery-looking, puffy almost.

Yeah, but I think they did something. Obviously. Some people are saying, it's like, Oh, they stopped the filler. No. I don't know. Face transplants, what? They look amazing.

You You guys have until I give birth to figure out who that doctor is and get me an appointment.

Yeah, they look really great. Not a lot of movement, but who needs movement? I was singing this morning, my face was moving so much. It's like, Stop it.

You know who needs movement, actually? Stop moving. Actors.

I don't know. Lindsay's such a great actor. I didn't watch her new movie, but you forget, she is an amazing actress. We always say there's no such thing as a good actress. It's true. Everyone's just a liar. Anyone can do it. No. There are actually some people who give them any role, they will be good in I mean, and honestly, the parent trap is really evident of her talent.

She was so young, playing two different girls, two different accents, two different roles. She carried that whole fucking film on her back. Talking to herself. Yeah. Actually talking to nobody at most of the film. It's actually beyond impressive. You're right. She is at the core, a very skilled actress.

Yeah. Also, she reminds me a lot about Amanda Binds, and I feel like that feeling that we have about Amanda Binds, which is like, I would love to see her in something today. She's so funny. She's such a good... She just is It's lost.

It's a perfect comparison.

Imagine if Amanda Binds just got it together and was back to work and looking great and feeling great and sounding great. That's how this feels.

That's such a great comparison, and we need to get Amanda Binds on the Lindsay Lindsay Lohan, Expressway.

Yeah. That's a great comparison. Yeah, because she's the talent of our generation. She is the comedic- The comedic talent.

Yeah. What did you do this weekend besides Wicked at Midnight?

Besides Wicked at Midnight, Dana was here this weekend, and she was really only here for 24 hours, and we had the best day ever. She brought her baby here because she was in town for her wedding, so she stayed over the following night. It was just amazing. Friendship evolving, maturing, children meeting. We had Seriously, the best, most wholesome time.

Tell me about the meeting of the Minds, the wine rep children meeting the Webbman child.

The Webbman child. They loved him. I mean, Reid is not old enough. I couldn't say if Reid loved him, but he wasn't screaming at them. But they couldn't get enough of him. They just wanted to watch him change his diaper. Just everything he was doing, they were just watching him.

Tell me about Dana as a mom. I was with her a couple of weekends ago, and she was holding a baby, and I was seriously, I couldn't get over it because she is a child.

Yeah. She packs for him in a backpack. Claudia, I posted this to my story, but I feel like people... I meant to follow up because I feel like people were probably like, Oh, well, Josh probably had a suitcase. Josh had a backpack. I didn't get him. Josh had a backpack, Dana had her Jan Sport, and her baby had a backpack, and that is how they traveled for the weekend. Where do they keep the bottles?

Let me tell you something. This really, I think, reflects to a conversation we were having last week about how a lot of the anxiety I have about child rearing is so much of the clutter and so much of the shit and consumerism. And honestly, the Dana Webman route of motherhood. Listen, I- The Dana Webman minimalist route. I actually understand it, and I hope to be like her, honestly. If I could just throw everything into three backpacks for a weekend trip with my family, and I'm going to a wedding. Jackie, that's beautiful.

It's so crazy to me. When I travel with just one baby, my carry on would be bigger than their backpack. It's insane. Just of what to bring on the plane, let alone my suitcase.

She's a marvel.

I know, but I also like stuff. I like having options. I like a couple of cozy blankies.

Of course.

Options. Plus, I told her, don't bring anything. I'll give you clothes, I'll give you a carry, I'll give you a stroller, I'll give you changing table. Don't bring a thing.

Yeah, that's so nice.

It was really nice. That was definitely a highlight of the weekend.

I also entered my nesting era very briefly, and I sent you a link. I actually called in I texted you 55 times yesterday, and you were just done with me. You were posting on Instagram and writing in the family chat, and every time I tried to solo... Are you mad at me or something? Every time I tried to solo communicate with you, I was brutally rebuffed.

So I posted one thing of my siete pizzas on Instagram. People I thought I was making seven pizzas, so that made me chuckle.

I also responded to that story, you didn't respond to me back.

Because texting you or calling you back, it's just a worm hole where that requires me in a good way. Then I'm on my phone for a while. I'm talking you on the phone, but I'm with my kids, and I just don't want to be on my phone. So yes, I could shoot off a text. Sounds like a burden. I could shoot off a text to reply to the chat. I could post something to Instagram. But when I talk to you, I'm fat. Usually, I would call you back in the evening, but I saw I've actually been largely ignored by you and your family all week.

I texted you and your husband separately together, asking the boys to call me. What the hell is going on? You guys are obviously mad at me as a family.

We're not. I mean, Saturday, I was with Dana, and we were like, When we're doing stuff, unless I'm sitting on the couch bored with the boys, it's not a great time to call you. I don't want to be talking to you while playing with them. That's distracted. I just like to talk to you when I'm on my own, but I was with them all day long.

I'm just saying it has been noted, the lack of communication.

I'm so sorry, but you were trying to get a hold of me. What can I do you for?

Well, I wanted to show you these new tings I got at Bloomingdale's. I bought so much new stuff. Me and Ben started Ben the other day was like, We need to clean out the kitchen. I said, What did you say? I have always been maintaining the kitchen, and I've just given up these last couple of weeks, months. I'm tired, I'm lazy. Every time I do something, he undoes it, so whatever. But I guess I didn't maintain for a couple of weeks, and now he's feeling like it's a little cluttered. We cleaned out two big cabinets. We're going to go cabinet by cabinet. Each cabinet is like a monstrosity. When he did such a good job getting rid of so many things that we went to Bloomydale's, we bought new things. He needed a couple of new pants. I'm really such a woman now. Those air-sucking containers that you put flour in. You push the button.

The OXXO ones.

Oxxo, yeah. What else did I Oh, and this is what I texted you, a link. I saw this fabulous collection of Judica.

Oh, I saw that you sent me that, and I didn't- I bought a khala plate, Shabbat candles, a new menorah, a knife, all a part of this very Dolce & Vita Judica collection. Were you sending it to me because it's of the elk of dinnerware that we like, but it's Judaiica?

Yeah, and it was reasonably priced. So if you're in the market for Judaiica, I was just spreading the wealth. You wouldn't know that because you didn't respond.

Yeah, well, I We haven't been in a place to chat until right now.

Well, that's good because we have so much to catch up on. I do feel as though I'm so happy I could melt if we don't start talking about Wicked.

Okay, so should we get into it? Is there any other odds and ends to wrap up? I don't think so.

No, I slept, ate, and spent money all weekend. That's literally all I did.

Oh, I did drop some coin yesterday at the mall. I went to the mall on Friday, and it was literally the most unsuccessful thing ever It was just I couldn't find what I wanted. I tried on an outfit. It was cute. I was like, but no, it's expensive. So I left. I just bought 12 lipsticks at Macy's. I was like, forget it.

Not 12.

12. Because they sell Kylie Cosmetics. Then all weekend, I was thinking about that outfit I tried on. I was like, I really need it. I'm going to Dallas. I have a big day in Dallas doing some work stuff. So we went back to them all yesterday, and I just walked in. I'm like, give me the skirt, give me the sweater, order the tights. I'll take the set. Yeah, we'll take it all. I want the Gucci song, us. I went nuts.

She went nuts.

I tried to conserve.

I'm proud of you. I'm actually proud of you.

Yeah. Shout out, Simkai.

No, shout out, Simkai. Gargi Things. I am ready to dive in because I got to get to the first story. If it's okay with you?

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Okay, so starting now, if you want to avoid wicked spoilers, check the time, Sam, and just go straight to Story number 2.

Yes. However, I feel like everybody knows the story of Wicked, so the spoilers won't really be in us talking about the storyline. But just if you want to see what your own original thoughts would be before hearing ours and not let us influence the way that you see the movie, skip to story 2, check the timestamps. But the news is that Wicked has soared past the gladiator, too, at the box office, earning the best opening ever for a Broadway film adaptation.

People are really trying to make it gladiator and Wicked coming out on the same weekend. It's like a Barbenheimer. No, nobody's seeing Gladiator, and I heard it was horrible.

By the way, it looks good, Gladiator.

I love that Paul Mescal. I just love that boy.

I think maybe I've seen the first Gladiator pieces of it. So I'm not a Gladiator swirly, but I would see this one. It's like his Marvel fiction. Is it? Yes, the Roman Empire.

I know nothing, and I actually don't care.

But by the way, I like the energy for Glicked, except I think the thing is it's like- It's unwarranted. Men want to see Wicked, too. I think with the Barbie movie, it was like, the boys will see Oppentheimer, the girls will see Barbie. But the guys want to see Wicked, too.

Ben.

Okay, first of all- I saw his video.

Ben absolutely loved it. And Ben, I didn't know. He was on our way. He's like, I didn't want to tell you this until we were almost there. I've never seen- The Wicked show. The Broadway show, which is crazy Because Ben grew up in the city, and Ben's mom loves growing up. That's plenty of that's crazy. It was so crazy. I was so shocked. He was like, It doesn't have anything to do with The Wizard of Oz. It was really crazy.

So I just had to- Okay, so his experience was seeing the Broadway show for the first time.

So fresh, and he was speechless. When it ended, we couldn't speak. We were genuinely speechless. Ben did not stop talking about it the entire ride home, the entire night after playing all the music. Wicked is for everyone.

Yeah, Wicked is for everyone.

Let's have a recap. Cynthia, Ariana. Let's have a tour recap.

Time to recap. Overall thoughts, it was amazing. It was incredibly done, done to perfection, a feast for the eyes. The sets, everything. It was just so beautiful. And then they chose seriously the most talented people. And the storyline is all... There's a reason why it is the most popular show on Broadway. The fact that it's Wicked Witcher of the West, villain origin story. But The story that they've added to it, with Chiz and the friendship, it's just an amazing story that ties back to the Wizard of Oz. Zack was then telling me all of the ways that it ties... Because he's telling me all this stuff about Wizard of Oz. I don't know if this is a spoiler for part two, but I don't think there are spoilers at this point.

But this was that he was- I think it is. I know what you're going to say, and I think it is that Dorothy is in it.

No, that's not what I was going to say. No, I was going to say, do you know that Boc is the scarecrow?

Yeah, of Fierro is the lion.

Fierro is the tin man. And then the lion, he said, is the bear cub they released in the woods.

Well, they did nod to the Wizard of Oz a couple of times. That opening sequence when it said Wicked part 1, that was very coded. And then the little lion cub piquing his head out of the basket. That was like Toto in Wizard of Oz. I loved how much they really subtly nodded to the original.

It was beautiful. It made me realize I know nothing about the Wizard of Oz because then Zack was like, Oh, and so the sister is the one who has the house fall on her.

That fucking sister.

Is that right? He knows all the stuff.

Yeah, no, he's right. That sister, first of all... Okay, let's just talk... Okay, I want to break it down person by person, because to me, I had the biggest impact on me from the film was Ari. We've always known she can sing, and we've seen her act in kids' stuff. We know she can't not act, but I was not prepared to be as blown away by her as I was. I mean, there's Oscar buzz. It's all warranted. To me, she completely stole the show. And Glinda, I mean, Ari is getting nominated as supporting actress. It's not a two- I actually think in this movie, she was more the main character.

She opens the movie, she's in the closing scene. Seeing the only big song she doesn't sing on is The Wizard and I. And I thought she was just as main, or if anything, like 50/50. So that's surprising that she's a supporting character. Maybe they didn't want to compete against each other. Yeah, we always knew she could sing. And also The thing about Ari's voice is not only can she sing, but she can imitate anyone's voice. She doesn't unfound all the time. She could have literally copy and pasted Kristenrishin Chenowitz, and it wasn't even about that. It was like when there was a cast ensemble, like dancing, I'm only looking at Ariana. It's true. They spent All these money on extras. Didn't eat it. I literally could not take my eyes off of her. Agreed.

She radiated. She was supreme. Like, funny. She made me cry so many times. When that scene at the Oss desk where they finally lay down their arms. I was literally sobbing.

I think everyone's not okay.

When she gets on the train, Alphaba, before Glinda goes on, and they just say goodbye to each other, and then she writes that note, I hope you get... I was sobbing. Ari, she's so sweet. I actually think that's who She really, really is. That part was so genuine. She just kept making me cry. Then when she wouldn't get on the broomstick, I understood her in that moment. She was brilliant. She completely stole the show. Her singing was amazing, but I was so blown away by how funny she was, how genuine she was. She really was as an actress. I can't remember a time where I saw better acting. Honestly, it was supreme.

While also being very theatrical.

Yes.

And then it wasn't until maybe it was when it popular came on, then she started to remind me of Kristen Chen with Lauren. I was reminded of how quirky she was. And then when the two of them came out, Idina and Kristen, I'm reminded. Seriously, how fucking crazy is Kristen Chen with this?

Did you know that they were in the movie?

No. I saw that someone said... Margot, Ashtre, not someone. She was like, Did anyone know the people that are in it? Then I saw someone say, There are spoilers on the album. I was like, Who could possibly be in it that would make sense? I thought for a second then, but I didn't think that would be such a big deal. I thought it was a really cute nod to the original, but it didn't knock me out of my seat.

Well, I read a spoiler on Twitter, and I was so annoyed because I wanted to know what my genuine reaction would have been. Ben, even though he's never seen Wicked, knew what they were to the film. I was just like, Oh, yeah. It was so sweet. I'm glad that they were in it because they really-Put it on the map. A thousand %. And I loved that they were in it. I loved that they're all seemingly friends. I thought it was really well done within the context, even though that scene with the play within the Emerald City was my least favorite part. I was really glad that they were in it.

Yeah. And by then, I'm like, It's getting late. Yeah. I was like, I got to go home.

And then I want to talk about Cynthia because I actually had chills. The Wizard and I was so spectacular. And very similarly to Ariana and Chris and Chana, it's really hard not to compare to the original songs. And I thought that so many instances, especially in The Wizard and I and Divine Gravity, Cynthia put her own little spin on certain riffs, little nose changes, and I thought it was so well done. We knew her voice was whatever, but I was really shocked, especially because she's saying in an accent, she's British, and Ben was shocked to find out that she was British. She did an amazing accent. I forgot that she was. I feel like Elfaba, you slowly fall in love with her throughout the film because she's definitely like a fabisun upon them. She has this chip on her shoulder, and I totally get it. But she's just this dark cloud. Then you really start to understand her and learn her. I feel like you love Glinda from the very second. Then the longer the movie goes on, you see Glinda's flawed, and she's not strong. She's not strong, and she's not this moral compass.

With Elphaba, I feel like it's a slow roll. Then by the end, you totally love her and you totally get her. I was so moved by by Elphaba. That scene at the Ozda's where she's crying. There's a couple of scenes where Elphaba is crying, and the acting was just supreme. I was moved. I was touched. I was everything, every word, every emotion.

Yeah. I thought Cynthia, really, she made Elphaba adorable. That's really the way I felt. She was just so cute. Also, Elfaba, she's literally the Wicked Wishes of the West. She's this big bitch on campus. Cynthia just made her just a girl. I want to fit I want to. I want to look pretty. I want to go to the dance. I like this boy. She just made her like, they're adorable.

I also loved, I don't know how I would never even put it together, that yes, her skin is green, but Cynthia being black, it actually, I think, added a layer of depth to the film. She's being made fun of for her skin. Yeah, whose skin is green? Nobody. I actually think, and I don't think any of the leading ladies on Broadway have ever been Black. I think it added another layer of depth to the whole film that was brilliant. Those kids at Shiz were such fucking losers, pissing me off like Bowen Yang. He was great, but his character was such a fucking loser. But I think it's such a great social commentary on how the public... Everybody just thinks what everybody else thinks. Everybody's a follower. To be an original and to be different is so It was so unique and so hard. The way everybody just thought what Glinda thought. I loved it, but those kids were pissing me off. The way they were being so dramatic about, Isn't this a school? I was confused. Is everybody at this school a magician?

No, nobody has powers, by the way. Nobody in the realm has- But they know about powers, right? Yeah, they live in a magical land, but most of them are powerless. What's the big deal? Which about that her skin is green.

Her skin being green.

I don't know.

I thought they were overreacting.

Small-minded munchkins they are.

Like, Munchkins, so small-minded.

There were a couple of distracting things about the movie that I was very aware that this is a movie. Fuck. Fuck. Claudia. I just want to say, I thought Jonathan Bailey was amazing. I I actually wouldn't change. Dancing Through Life was a little to Backstreet Boys.

I like the original. Oh my God, I completely disagree.

I loved it, but it was the most changed song, I thought.

Okay, well, dancing Through Life, I had a be our guest moment.

Do you know what I mean? I remember growing up on my iTunes, of all the wicked songs, that was my number one most played. That's my favorite one. That's why I think you should wear this hat to the party tonight. It really resonates with me. And they took that out. I don't even want to go there. Disgraceful. Also, Jonathan Bailey was amazing. However, it's just so crazy. It was like, Bach was seriously the only straight guy on set, and Ari fell in love with him. And it's like, imagine if Fierro had been a guy that maybe Ari could have fallen in love with.

I mean, I absolutely fell in love with Jonathan Bailey. I think he is so handsome. I think he is so talented. I was absolutely dazzled by his dancing through life sequence. When I saw Beauty and the Beast, I saw it in theaters, the Beauty and the Beast remake.

The live-action.

I was so dazzled by it. I remember when I got home, I was trying to explain to you guys how insane it was, and especially during the be our guest sequence, which was just so big and bright and colorful. My face, I don't even know what my face looked like, but I know I just looked like an absolute freak, like with my mouth smile, like eyes wide. I had that with dancing through life. I thought he was incredible. I loved the library sequence with the turning. And yes, I agree that Bach was a distraction and that the song was different. I'm not as familiar with the original song, so I'm not as connected to it or protective over it. I absolutely love No, I loved it.

It was just the song that was probably the most changed. Different. Yeah, it just had more of a poppy, Sean Mendes feel. Oh, wow. But he was so- He was amazing. He was amazing. He was such a good actor, and he was funny, and he sings amazing, and he dance amazing. I'm just saying if the actor were a straight man, maybe Ari would have fallen in love with him and not... It's a bunch of a box character.

Yeah, box was a literal munchkin, and Ari's falling in love with him. That's my She said, That's my man. I found his character also to be so unnecessary.

Well, I mean, they needed characters. Also, I do think that later on, the betrayal of Bac and Nessa will be a bit of something.

Nessa was, seriously, I don't... Name a worst sister in history. Everyone's so mean to Alphaba, and all Nessa is like, Please stop embarrassing. And literally, they grow up with their abusive dad only to Alphaba. You never stand up for your sister. She's just awful. She's so afraid of being embarrassed to the point where it's like, you're actually embarrassing me now. Yeah. I fucking hated her.

Yeah. Also, I didn't understand why Alphaba is green. Her mom was sleeping with someone who was drinking green juice.

Jackie.

What? Do you want me to spoil it? Well, then Zack said her mom was sleeping with the Wizard.

Yeah.

But the Wizard has no powers.

The Wizard is her dad.

That's what Zack was saying. I was like, Oh, okay, I missed that. And then he was like, You didn't hear in the song, he's literally saying, I'm your dad. I'm like, I don't know.

And that green drink.

Okay, but like- He was sipping on that perp. He was sipping on that green. But he doesn't have powers, so the powers just came from- The elixir. The green juice.

The elixir.

I don't know. I'm like, I'm not... And then all of a sudden, she can read that ancient scribe because she's- Because she's special. He's sipping on that green. She's special. But it's chemical. It's chemical. It's not magical. That's all I'm saying.

I guess we'll learn more about her chemical makeup.

So you knew, when do we find out that the Wizard is her dad?

I think in part two. We find out- That's literally...

They need a new trope, like a Darth Vader, I'm your father. It's always the Daddy.

I'm trying to criticize the film. I really don't have many. I didn't love Jeff Goldblum.

We're just not Jeff Goldblum in Girlies. He wasn't cast for us.

He wasn't. I thought Michelle Yeoh was incredible.

Yeah. I didn't know if she was good or bad. I forgot the plot.

I forgot about that, too. So that was an actual plot twist for me. I haven't seen the play in years.

No, I think I saw it maybe twice, but I didn't remember the storyline. And I guess when I would think back on it, it was about a college, she's University.

And I'm trying to think what songs remained for part two? I have been changed.

Besides that. But then also When they say, Fierro.

Oh, No Good Deed.

Yeah.

I'm not that girl.

She's saying that this time.

Oh, okay.

I'm glad it was in two parts. I needed to get up after three. My butt was really hurting. And I wouldn't have taken anything out, any piece of dialog, any song. Zack was saying he was shocked there wasn't an original song. I thought that was an interesting point. I feel like if there were to be one, it will be in the second part.

Because part two is definitely lacking the more recognizable songs. All the ones that you guys know from Glee and Shit are in part one.

Claudia, I forgot about all this shit with the animals.

Yeah, me too. It felt a little silly, but oh my God, I could not focus until I figured out who the professor was. Claudia, stay. Peter's English. And I'm literally like, Who is that voice? Who is that voice? Peter Dinklage.

But I refuse to Google it in the theater. Yeah, same. Googled it when we left Peter Dinklage.

I just want to say I behaved so well in the theater. I did not sing one Lick, One Bar. And the guy next to me, it was one of the theaters where you can order food and cocktails. It's one of those fancy Oh, man, he got a bottle of wine and a cocktail. He was singing. It definitely wasn't his first time because he was pointing out to his friend, like fun things. I wanted to kill him, and then he fell asleep. See, he literally missed half the movie. I was so happy when he fell asleep.

That's so funny. I didn't even feel inclined to sing because they were changing stuff. I wanted to hear it the way they intended, and now I can sing along and enjoy.

I also have to say, you guys know I hate when they make things long, but they definitely intentionally stretched out Defying Gravity.

Claudia, I said the same thing.

They added more unlimited, and I did not- More dialog.

They kept stopping the song.

I did not mind. Oh, you did not mind? I loved that they never wanted it to end, and neither did I. And I knew that when she did, it was going to end right after that. It was even better than I imagined, the fade to black. It was amazing. I loved that they made it extra long.

Thank you. Oh, no. I kept being like, Come on, hit it. I want to get to the note. I'm itching to hear the next part of the song. And when she's in the sky, it's an insane scene. Her cape is going, and she's like, Oh.

And by the way, don't forget who controls the weather. Right. Michelle.

But so she does her, Oh. I thought then it should have gone right to black. They did like- I agree. Three more cuts. They showed Ari, then they showed her flying again. On the soundtrack, there's still 22 more seconds. Good.

I didn't want it to end.

No, they really made a meal.

Good. I could have watched a whole three-hour movie of just that song.

The thing is, I will enjoy watching that back and watching clips of it and stuff. But in that moment, I'm like, Can we just get out?

No. I was like, I knew what they were doing, and I said, Yes, keep going, John Chou.

And they kept stopping the song for her and Ari to talk. Also, I love, and this is obviously from the original movie, but I don't know, I probably missed it or forgot, but how Ari, how Glinda really is responsible for her iconic look, the cape and the hat. You don't even realize you should wear the hat to the party tonight. It's so important. It's germane. Why did they change that? I don't know.

But then in the beginning, when they're burning that big scarecrow of the witch and the classic cape and the hat. That's this look that Ari made for her. At first, not in good faith. But then, okay, that scene, I know it was definitely stretched out, but where they're... Actually, I really was holding space for the lyrics of Defying Gravity because I don't think I realized that the song starts out, I hope you're happy. I hope you're happy now. I hope you're happy how you've lost your brain forever. I hope you think you're clever. They're mad at each other for the decisions that they're making. But then at the end of the song, I hope you're happy now that you're choosing this. I really hope it brings you bliss. I really hope you get it and you don't live to regret it. It's a coming to understand someone else's choices. They're rooting for each other. Yeah, and Elphaba is not mad or judging Ari for not going. And Ari is like, Listen, you got to do what you got to do. But that life on the run being this big controversial figure, it's not for everyone.

And some people aren't strong enough for it. And Glinda is not.

Yeah. No, but she wants Elphaba to be happy. To do it. I hope it all goes well for you. No, it's true. A lot of Defying Gravity and Wizard and I, they play off of each other Unlimited.

Yes. Another great scene was Loathing, where they're dating each other as roommates, and they're just talking in the letters. I love that scene. I remember from the Broadway play, and I thought it was so well done. The set design was also incredible. The room was exactly how I would have pictured it. I mean, Ari's wardrobe was insane. It was spectacular. I would love to shake the hand of John M. Chew. He thinks he did that. Who even is I don't even know. Everyone's talking about him like he's James Cameron. This is the first time I've ever heard his name. It won't be the last.

No. Well, Wicked Part 2. Brilliant. Plus, he's doing the Brittany movie. Is he? Mm-hmm.

Oh, brilliant.

That's why everyone was doubly excited.

When they make a movie about us one day, give it to John.

Yeah. When Wicked Part 2 comes out, I'll see it earlier in the day. If you want to spend some marketing budget on getting us to dress up.

I'm so glad you had the thought to see it this weekend, because if I had waited, I didn't even know what I was missing.

Yeah, and now I get to listen to the soundtrack. I'm having a whole renaissance with the soundtrack. And songs you already know, but they're in the new styles, which is fun and exciting. Do you think you're more of an Elfaba or Glinda? Zack was asking me in the car.

It's a really good question. I think that we all like to think that we're alphabas, that we're morally tough. But when it comes down to making really hard decisions, you're going to throw your whole life away for a cause. Not everyone can do that. Do you know what I mean? That's why, like I said, it's easy for us to judge Glinda, but a lot of us would be Glinda. In that situation, you're going to throw your whole life away. You're going to become this woman on the run who everybody hates, this wicked. I don't know. A part of me understands her. I like to think I'm an alpha, but I'd throw it all away for the... For good. I don't know that I would.

It's a good question. He was like, Do you think of you and Claudia, who's Alphaba? Who's Glinda?

I was like... Okay, if we're bringing it down to the two of us, you're probably more Alphaba, and I'm more Glinda. Not esthetically.

No, at first, I was like, I guess I'm Glinda because I'm all pink and she's Alphaba. He was like, Really? I think you're Alphaba, and she's Glinda. He made some good points, honestly. He's like, You're very- Wait.

He thinks I'm who? He thinks you're Glinda.

So popular and outgoing. No, I agree. I don't know if I'm supposed to take that as an insult, Zack, but I agree. No, he insulted both of us in his descriptions, and It's to me like, you're different. You're-oh, not different. But I do think ideologically, I'm an alpha, for sure.

Ideologically, yes. And so ideologically, I like to think that I would be an alpha, but I don't know that. I've never been put in that situation. Do I want to defy gravity or not? I don't know.

But then also it's like, what does Glenda do in the second half? Maybe she's working for Alpha, but behind the scenes, stopping them on their hunt, casting them in a different direction. So maybe she's working for the cause, doing the good work, but not putting her whole self out there. I'm leaving space for Glenda to be a good faith operator. However, no one warns the wicked. She's literally dancing on her grave.

Yeah. And then she's the one who throws a torch.

Yeah.

Yeah. I'm really excited for part two just to type some loose ends, and it's going to be a whole ass year. So I'll see you guys then.

Yeah. But I feel like I have enough right now.

Me too.

To get me through.

And I think I got to take Ben to see the play.

That's really You should.

He loved it. He's having a cultural awakening, this whole thing. He had no idea this world existed, and now he's been thrown in.

And honestly, it makes Wizard of Oz look like a piece of shite.

Jackie, I thought that... I was actually thinking on my way to work. Do I want to open this can of rooms? The Wizard of Oz could never.

No, I haven't seen it in a while. I just feel like it doesn't go that deep. It's just like- But they weren't trying.

They were just thinking, they didn't know.

They didn't know that someone was going to come in and up and tell the story of their villain. It just makes Wizard of Oz look a little silly. Correct. We're off to see the Wizard. And also it's like, how much time is between all of this? Between Elfabes' and then Elfaba dying, how much? What are they?

Like 20, probably. How old do you think she is when she dies? I'd say like 20 years because the Wizard is still alive.

I guess Glinda just doesn't age.

Correct. She obviously, I feel, makes some with the Wizard because she gets to be magical. She gets a wand. She didn't possess that vernacular.

But the Wizard doesn't have shite.

Melissa. What's her name? Michelle does.

Ms. Marble.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's true.

Oh, not the head mistress being the bearded lady. Did you put that together?

I'm not singing.

I realized halfway there when they're taking Peter Dinklage out back to shoot him, I realized in that moment after a couple of scenes that she was in that that's who that was. I didn't recognize her without her beard.

I recognized her immediately. I didn't. But she better be singing in part, too.

Otherwise- That's weird. No. What are you doing here? She's one of the greatest singers. And by the way, I saw someone say this on TikTok, and I completely agree with it. I don't feel as though I've had this reaction and excitement and takeaway from a movie musical since The Greatest Showman. And before that, it was Beauty and the Beast.

Yeah, before that, Hairspray.

But really, the crazy thing about The Greatest Showman was that it was It's completely original. That's what's exciting about this because it's the first adaptation. Beauty and the Beast is an adaptation of an adaptation. They redo it every couple of years. Wicked, this is the first one, which is why it was such a big deal. But Greatest Showman was based on nothing.

No, it's like, I gave you a perfect routine, and they executed it perfectly. Thankfully, they didn't call them Sparky Palastry, but they had a great script, great actresses, budget for days, and they executed. But you know what? These days, they don't always execute. Some of the worst movies are the biggest budget.

Right.

So we have to acknowledge it and appreciate it. It wasn't a given. They could have really made it shite.

Now, I had this conversation with Ben. Do you think that Ariana and Cynthia got paid the same amount?

I think in the spirit of sisterhood, yeah. I think so much about this. And also I had so many thoughts then about the press thing and how they marketed it. And it's really true that other movies, when there's a The two main characters are usually romantic, so they try to make you think they're in love. And they took this strategy of, we're going to bring the friendship of Glinda and Elfabelle, and bring that to press, which seems obvious, but actually isn't. It was very much a choice. And I wonder if they were shitting bricks when Ari and Spongebob came out and everybody hated them. And they were like, this could seriously ruin the movie. If the movie had come out a year before, if it hadn't died down a little bit- In the midst of- people might have not wanted to go Because of all of that. I wonder if people were quaking like, oh, my God, these two are going to ruin the movie.

Okay, so I had seen this, but I didn't want to say it until I just read it about the salaries because I was shocked when I heard this. Ready? So the salaries for Wicked have not been confirmed, but reports indicate that Arevo earned a million dollars for the role of Alphaba, and that makes her far from the best paid member of the cast, with Ariana Grande, reportedly making $15 million, and Michelle Yo and Jeff Goldblum, each making $2 million.

I saw that Jeff Goldblum made $2 million.

I saw that Jeff Goldblum made double of what Cynthia did. And I think that Ari getting more money than Cynthia, while for people, it's really shocking, when you boil it down to business, it makes a lot of sense. Ariana is this global, and this movie is global. People are talking about it in every country. A lot of that has to do with Ariana, the people she brings to this role, the younger people she brings to this role. I understand why she got paid more. I know I was familiar with Cynthia Arevo, and I think people who operate within pop culture are, but she's not globally known. She is now. But I think Jeff Goldblum getting paid more than her is actually disgraceful. He was in it for one No, and anybody could have done what he did.

Any goopy man.

Same with Michelle Yeoh.

She's great. I'm shocked. James Corgan wasn't the Wizard.

Honestly, it's such a good call. Because he's perfect for it.

He would have been great.

He would have been great. I love that. The disparity between Cynthia and Ari makes sense.

It makes sense. Ari brings so much in the lead, just her amount of followers on Instagram. Yeah, you get paid more for that. It's just like, I wonder if that affects their friendship a little bit.

It's definitely weird. I wonder also if these deals are the same for part two, or do you renegotiate?

I don't think so. Part two is filmed.

It was probably one big deal. They probably got paid the same for each film.

Yeah, but they probably have royalties per cent.

I just personally don't feel like Jeff Goldblum. I would have given his $2 million to Cynthia. I didn't think that he was really... He was worth it. I thought Michelle Yeoh was great, but I don't think she deserved to be paid more She was barely in it.

No. And does she sing? In The Wizard and I, she's singing in the beginning, but is she a singer?

As a person? I don't know.

I don't think so. Nothing that matters.

She carried a tune. Yeah, this person responded. I'm going to steal this junk pile Jennifer comment. She wrote, I'm not surprised that Ariana got paid more. I'm surprised that Cynthia got paid so little for such a big movie.

Yeah, a lot of work, a lot of talent.

But this is something you just take.

You want it. She's a title character. This will change her entire career. I I honestly would do it for free.

They're obviously going to perform at the Oscars, right?

Wow. They should perform. Maybe they'll perform Defy and Gravity. Might be too big and too risky. They could do Loathing. That would be amazing.

It would be, but it has to be a song that has both of them, right? Or just Cynthia performs?

Well, also it depends what songs get nominated. Sorry.

By the way, also, Ari could sing... I wonder if Ari was disappointed because you were the one who told me that she tried out for both roles. I wonder if she wanted one more than the other.

She wanted Alphaba more. Her whole life, she wanted to be Alphaba.

Because when you think of Wicked, you think of Alphaba. That's the main character. Even though after watching the film, I wouldn't say that. But she is the main character, and she has all the good songs. I mean, Ari's version of The Wizard and I was at Wicked's 25th anniversary on NBC. Seriously, one of the best covers. Go listen to it on. She would have slayed the house down. I imagine she was disappointed when she didn't get the role that she wanted. But it's really the definition of everything happens for a reason because I don't think she would have been as good as Alphaba as she was as Glenda, honestly.

Yeah. No, she always had Alphaba in her heart, and When Cynthia's singing Defying Gravity, I'm just watching Arie. She wants to sing so badly. Then when I didn't realize Glenda sings on it, too, and she finally gets to sing Defying Gravity, I'm so happy for her.

Me too. But I think it really worked out for the best, honestly.

It did. I mean, she was so Glinda.

Yeah, I couldn't really... I don't see her as Alphaba.

I think she would... I mean, because she's literally become Glinda in her life. She would have become Alphaba. She had dark hair, and she'd be wearing all black all the time, and she would have totally leaned into it. She always saw herself as an Alphaba. Yeah.

I mean, her covers of Wicked, anytime she's ever saying it, sick.

Yeah, so definitely get your ass It is worth it. Yeah. Just try and find the time that doesn't bring you home at 11:45. Your two loaves of sourdough are three hours overproofed, and you got to start shaping. Shaping at midnight. It's not where you want to be.

It's never a good time when you're shaping at midnight.

No, but the loaves actually came out pargy, shockingly.

That's so great.

Three hours over proof, in sourdough years. That's a really long time.

We'll move on whilst trying not to keep talking about wicked, but who knows?

Who knows? Okay, so our next story, even though everything really just like, who gives a fuck. Our next story. Oh, this is really sweet news. Kylie, Kelsey is pregnant, expecting baby number four with her husband, Jason, Kelsey. So they announced their pregnancy in a really sweet way. They took a picture of their three daughters crying, screaming, laughing, saying, I feel like we captured a very accurate representation of how each of the girls feels about getting another sister. At least Ellie, mom and dad are on the same page because Ellie was smiling. They are having a fourth daughter.

Okay, literally us. I'm obsessed. So happy for them. Four daughters. What's better than that? Or it's the Giudices, right?

There's four daughters there, too. Yeah, there's four daughters there.

No, it's really- Iconic quadruplet daughters, the Giudices, the Asheries, and the Kelsies.

The Kelsies. Really, really cute. It's so crazy that Jason Kelsie has four girls when he's the manliest man in the country.

It's really crazy. I know that that's how statistics work. It's 50/50, a boy or a girl, but what are the odds?

Yeah, it's really cute. Of course, the lard, the photo. Of course, this does make you wonder what's next for Taylor and Travis, right?

Does anybody else feel like What's her name? Kylie. Sorry. Oh, my God. Kylie and Taylor don't like each other. Not trying to cause drama, women against women. I just feel like they're so different.

I don't feel like they don't like each other, but they don't have to be best friends. The odds that they're going to be best friends are so slim, and they are so different. I think that that's okay.

Because I can see Kylie not liking Taylor.

Yeah, but I think Taylor makes it her mission for people who she wants. Everyone to like her. Or people who she cares to like her, to like her. She's probably baking her cookies, knocking down her door. I'm sure Kylie hates that even more. They just like, Are two people speaking different languages? However, they have a common goal. Taylor is going to make it work.

Taylor is going to make it work.

Yeah. I don't know.

Something like this, definitely when your brother/brother-in-law has a baby, it definitely starts a conversation.

Uncle Trab, now he's an uncle of four. If this was getting his his juice is flowing, they're flowing even more now is all. Oh, my God.

Did I tell you that I watched the first episode, Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Greater? No. It was horrible. I really wanted to watch it. It was seriously so bad.

Why?

Are you smarter than a celebrity? Whatever it's called.

Also, that doesn't make sense.

Jackie, they were moving so slow. We watched 20 minutes, and there had been one question. You tune in because you want to see how the questions are. Oh, my God. They were just moving so slow. Every time there was a question, we had to phone a celebrity and tell me where you're from. It's not Travis's fault. It's not Nikki Glaser's fault. It's not any of the celebrity's fault. Not the lovely man who was a contestant. It's a game show. Play the game.

How is Travis?

So cute. I just know he didn't know half the answers. The questions are hard.

I want to hear the questions.

I only got to maybe seriously one or two questions. I knew one of them, and I didn't know the other.

I want to hear them. Are you ready for our next story?

Yes.

What number? Paris. Number 3. Paris Hilton's making headlines claiming that she's never had Botox or fillers, saying she's all-natural. Paris Hilton is aging backwards all-natural. The 43-year-old reality star and DJ claimed on the Zack sing show on Friday that she is working on aging in reverse without the help of any cosmetic features. She said, I feel really proud that I'm all natural. I've stayed out of the sun. I've never done any Botox, injectables, no surgery, nothing. She explained that she has maintained her youthful glow thanks to her mom, Cathy Hilton skincare advice. She said, My mom told me when I was eight years old, Paris, stay out of the sun. Then she taught me this amazing 10-step skincare routine, so I've literally been doing that since I was eight. She also noted that she built an incredible in-home spa called the Sliving Spa.

If features. Yeah. Have you ever seen it? It has a hyperbaric chamber. It's insane.

It has an LED light therapy, offers hydro facials and cryotherapy, and hosts a hyperbaric chamber. She is adamant that she has never- By the way, she has maintained this for years. Yes, she has. People, I think, are really dubious about this claim. However, I'm really... I'm looking into it. I believe her. I think this is really possible. However, there's got to be something. She's 43 years old, and her skin is flawless.

Not even Botox?

Does her forehead move? Gravity is gravity. We can't defy it.

A lot of people don't believe this. One, because it's just not believable that somebody who looks that great could have had No help. But there also just are people who are genetically blessed. You have to keep that in mind, too. Yes, she'd say it out of the sun, and she has a hyperbaric chamber, and she does hydro facials. But there are some people who, even just regular, not celebrities, regular people in your life who look amazing for their age. Part of it is just some people are genetically blessed.

I do think that her sister is also in... They look the same. It's true. They both look amazing. They both said they follow their mom's skincare advice. There's a lot of credibility here.

Yeah, Nikki also looks great.

She has the same She maintains that she has...

I'm sure Nikki has everyone else done stuff. I don't know if she maintains the same line as Paris, but she looks amazing for each two. She's a mom of three.

I think that there is some truth here. I don't think she's lying, and I also don't think she would lie in such a big public, adamant way.

And by the way, I agree with you. She has said this many times. Actually, the first time I ever met Paris, not to make anything about myself, we were just talking and she said this. She said this to me in private. She's like, Yeah, I've never had anything done. I'm like, Well, like Botox, obviously. She was like, No, Not under the knife, not in Jackson. I've never done anything to my face.

No, it's so crazy. When you look at a picture of her from nowadays, she looks like someone who has amazing work. That's just because of what you assume, but potentially she hasn't. I believe her. You know what? I'm a believer. I've not known Paris to lie.

No. What's the crazier part? That she looks this good and has never had anything done, or she's a woman who's been in Hollywood her entire life and has not fallen prey to the plastic surgery?

Yeah.

The thing is, she doesn't look 17. She looks 35.

No, her skin is amazing, though.

Yeah. And by the way, skin, for the most part, is genetic.

Yeah. And Cathy looks amazing.

You can do all your routines.

Cathy has amazing skin.

I love Cathy.

I know. I'm excited for Beverly Hills this week.

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Our next story, a little more housewives news. Teddy Melenkamp has taken accountability and apologized for wrongdoing after her- Does she have a coach? Affair with horse trainer.

Does she have a coach?

A coach? She's taking accountability. Does she have accountability? This is what she posted on Instagram. She said, The only person who can change your life is you. We have two options. Pretend to be a victim or stand up and fight for yourself. We all deserve peace and happiness. It's giving Alphab. I have cried and mourned. I've taken accountability and apologize for things I have done wrong. Now I've given myself permission to grow and thrive. I've decided to not pander to the media and tell my side because in the big scheme of things, click bait means nothing, and of course, three sides to every story. How can I stand up and show up for the people that do matter? Does. This is called being an adult.

Okay. I'm sorry, I stopped carrying four sentences ago, and I already barely cared about the situation in the beginning. What I did want to talk about when it comes to Bravo, is you did that Bravo had another convention in Miami this weekend? Yeah, fan fest. It was called Bravo Fan Fest, which I saw a bunch of good panels. But I don't know why there was no hype for it, Bravo Con. What was this event?

I don't know.

Why wasn't it as hyped up? It looked super well done. It looked really beautiful. They had stars, It was galore.

Yeah, I saw something. It did seem like Bravo Con elk, but I couldn't get my head around what it was.

Also, I heard Kyle Cooke said something about Ben and Craig. I heard that the whole room was booing him. That brings me joy. I don't know if it made any cut. I think it was one of those watch it happens live tapings.

Oh, my God. I wonder what he said. Do you know?

I don't know because the boots on the ground who told me, seriously, he's the worst historian on the planet. He didn't know who it was. I was actually- But I just know that the crowd booed Kyle, and that brought me joy.

I was supposed to be in the video. I was invited to something at the Banff. You should have went. It didn't work out. They should have had you moderate a panel or something. I had to see Wicked at Midnight. I got something. I forget what it was. I forget why it didn't work out. It didn't work out. So I did know there was something Bravo headed to Miami.

Very cool. I saw Jessie Solomon was there. I just think it's really important that everybody knows that if you look at the pictures of Jesse Solomon on the red carpet wearing a knitted, neutral type of shirt, that is the shirt. He is wearing Abercrombie. That's a shirt both Ben and Jason Tardik wore in St. Bart's in different colors. It's from Abercrombie.

So add him to the club.

Yes. Of the Crombie Boys. Reality stars love Abercrombie.

Crombie Boys.

Don't sleep on the men's Crombie. It's good.

Or the women's.

I like that shirt.

Jesse looks great in He should wear this shirt to the party the night.

I can't. I'm already wearing this hat. Oh. Yeah. Just back to Teddy Melenkamp, releasing a statement saying you're not going to be releasing a statement, just release the statement. No. And it's given guilty.

No, you guys. More of this if you want to get out of talking about whatever? Because it's the more nonsense you say like this, the more we just want to move on and we don't want to hear about it because these things are fatiguing. I don't care. I don't want to hear you. It's so So smart. I can't tell you enough.

She might as well have said she was just having a human moment. Yeah. No.

Words salad it up, keep talking about it without actually saying anything, and we will move on.

We were barely I was really caring in the beginning, and now I really, really don't care. So that's a strategy.

Do you see that she does her podcast a lot with Erica? Do you see those clips?

I've seen it, yes.

Where's Tamra? Or is that just they do both?

I don't know. I'm not even going to I'm not even going to pretend like I understand two T's in a pod, honestly.

Okay. Because I always see Teddy and Erica, and I'm like, Where's a T and an E?

By the way, I'm not doubting you. I've seen them once.

No, I've seen them a couple of times. Maybe it's all from the same episode, but I've seen it over time. You know what I mean?

I think that Erica, when she does a press tour, she goes on the T's. Okay.

She brings the E to the T.

Yeah.

Okay. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? A little more housewives news. Oh, wow. It falls into your favorite category of Louanne Dela Seps shooting her shot with famous actors.

Oh, who this time?

Louanne Dela Seps recalls heavily making out with Hugh Grant at a restaurant in the Hamptons.

Oh, my God.

I love that. Louanne once had a wild night with Hugh Grant. The Bravo star recounted a heated moment she shared with the actor in an interview with Too Fab during her Marie F Kill cabaret tour. She said she decided to dine at a restaurant in the Hamptons called Pierre's after her friend told her that Hugh Grant was there. So she called the restaurant and said, Get the table right next to Hugh Grant. She said, I had my family over. My brother was visiting me, and I said, Let's go. At the Eateries, she set up what she called a Flirting 101 ploy that involved her sitting behind Grant and casually bumping into him while pushing out her chair.

After wish- She said, We could all learn a thing or two from Louanne Dela-Trent.

Take notes, ladies. After which she apologized him. She said, I'm so sorry. Can I buy you a shot? I feel terrible.

A shot?

A shot. And he goes, Okay, but I'll come have a shot with you if do one with me.

Okay. Love that he was receptive because I'm sure things like this happened to him a lot. He obviously was dazzled by the countess.

The night progressed from there, and the two ended up taking shots and making out heavily at the table. She said her brother was like, I can't believe you're making out with Hugh Grant. She was like, Neither can I.

Okay. It's weird that her brother was there, but I'm choosing to ignore that part of the story. I'm obsessed. I believe it. Actually, we saw Hugh Grant in the Hamptons. He obviously spends time there. I believe every lick of this story. Luanne, especially if you don't know her. She did? Yes. I literally saw him walking out of St. Ambrose.

Oh, cool.

If you don't know the lore of this person as a famous housewife/train wreck, and you just see her in the Hamptons, she's really a very beautiful, very worldly- Confident. Confident, older woman, somebody who Hugh Grant would go on a date with. I love that Hugh Grant got got by the Countess. I love that he was attracted to her. I love that he respects a woman his own age. This is 11 points in Hugh Grant's column. I I love that Lou-Anne held onto this story for a little bit before she shared it with us. She's literally a role model.

Yeah. No, she really is. She's not the Countess for no reason. You don't become the Countess just by accident.

It's true. We forget because now it's a joke. But at one point in time, this woman was a part of British aristocracy. She was married to an actual noblemen. She lived in a six-floor townhouse on the Upper East Side, and she would not let Bethany Frankl's driver refer to her by her first name. This woman is otherworldly, and obviously, she's now a reality star and all the things that come with it. But you don't lose that.

No, you don't lose that Riz.

You don't lose that Riz.

She's the Rizler. I love that. I had one more thought about Wicked, though. I forget what just made me think of something from Wicked. I don't know if I'm going to remember, but that's what I wanted to say next.

The girl who played opposite Bowen Yang, the two followers of Glinda, she was great, too.

Bowen Yang was another one who every time I saw him, I remembered I was in the movie theater. Yeah, he distracted you. Yeah, just too much of a person outside. And then, I guess, the Ethan Slater, because I'm just looking at him like, What in the what?

I don't know if I put together that his character, he was booked in a role that likes Ari. No, no, no.

He's like, I would do anything for you, Glenda.

He wasn't acting.

He wasn't. Every time they touched, I'm like, Yeah.

It's true. I agree. The baby. I agree. It was too real. What about the baby? Oh, and by the way, I know it's probably part of the lore, but everyone in the opening scene and every member of Oz, the Munchkins, having the same hair as him. Oh, my God.

I thought everyone was him. I said, Is that Bach? I guess it is part of the lore because it's the scarecrow hair.

Right.

Oh, my gosh. It was crazy. I didn't realize Bach was such a big character. Me neither. I had forgotten who he was, even though he is a big part of dancing through life and wearing the hat to the party the night.

I love Fiera. He was so handsome.

He was so good.

I was longing for him the whole movie.

But then also, it's like, Elsa was touching her friend's man's face. I didn't like that.

That is something that doesn't get spoken about enough because before they can even act on those feelings, the whole Oz thing happens, and we forget about small things, like relationships. But she was betraying her friend.

Yeah, she was going after her friend's man when she knew how much... That all started after Glinda shared she's going to marry him, and then you're in the woods touching his face. You didn't need to do that.

Then she's letting her friend spiral. Things haven't been the same since that day with the professor. You're just sitting there letting her drive herself crazy when you have information. It's literally that scene. It's Miranda when she knew why Big didn't show up at the altar, and she lets Carrie think for months that it was her fault in Sex and the City movie.

But it's not even... But that would be because Big was in love with Miranda.

No, I know. But it's like you're sitting on information. You're letting your friend literally drive you some crazy.

Linda's the one who's the bad friend because she didn't get on the broom, but it's like you're stealing her man. You're in the midst of a man theft.

Right. Why don't you get on that broom and go get your man? Yeah.

So that was not the nicest, but you know. No, it wasn't. Love conquers all, I guess. I don't know. They could have just had a mutual love of animals and been friends and let it be that.

I wasn't sure. I didn't remember who Fiera ended up with. I'm like, Is this Alphaba's love interest or Glinda's? When it was Glinda's, I'm like, You know what? Good. It's fine. Alphaba has too much going on in her life for a romantic partner.

I think that he goes Alphaba, and then he betrays Alphaba, and that's really when the villain... That's a major part of her villain, Arjan's story, is the heartbreak from Fiera and him choosing Glinda. But I'm just that's going on vibes. I don't remember for a fact.

I'm going to see the play. Maybe I'll see it over Thanksgiving weekend.

You should. Spoilers for part two.

Or like Munchkins, so small-minded. No. When she ran into that field, it was getting Belle.

When she ran into... That was one of them... Powerful. If I was on a heart rate monitor, that was one of my peaks where I was just overcome with joy and glean. She was just like, She's such a sweetie. Elvaba's such a sweetie. People don't know that about her.

It was giving that scene when Belle runs into the lavender fields and she says, If you're not singing to an open field in a movie musical, what are you doing?

Really, Julie Andrews did it best, and she did it first. She did it first.

What line does she sing, Belle, when she's like, I want so much more.

I want adventure in the great wide somewhere.

I want it more than I can tell. Yes, thank you.

We're looking at the great wide somewhere. It's literally writes itself.

My only note, actually, is when she's on that cliff, when she's looking out at wasn't Pargy. In Beauty and the Beast, it was so gorgeous. She's looking over the lavender fields of Provence. And of course, in Sound of Music, she's looking over these gorgeous hills, rolling hills. And I don't know. She was looking out over the desert, Alphabée. It was like dusty.

Yeah. Well, it was a magical land. So it was a little bit like colorful AI, not beautiful nature, not the architect. It was more like the lizard. But that's The land that they live in. It's fairy land.

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