Transcript of CMA Sabotage: Thursday, November 21st, 2024

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Thursday. That feels like a Friday because we're fucking celebrating, bitch. Hey, Jax, how are you doing?

I'm doing, Rick. I'm doing, actually. Okay, Laura. We are the ladies in blue today. Okay, Laura. I feel like people wouldn't believe us when we say that we don't plan our outfits. We are just so simpatico that- I actually think people would believe it.

We literally show up looking like rats in sweat pants. Why would we plan that? No, no, no.

Plan matching. Yesterday, we were of the same milk the day before we were wearing cream sweaters and leggings. Today, we're both wearing blue. When do we ever wear blue?

There's just, at least for me, a really limited amount of clothes that I'm willing to put on my body. It couldn't be anything other than accidental.

But it's always... It's just to say we are simpatico.

Now, I just want to get out ahead of some of the drama, letting everyone know the good guys were using my studio yesterday. So if this episode never makes it to air, that's why.

Okay. What were they doing in there?

Just being good.

Did they have a guest or something?

They did, actually. They did.

Do you want to spoil it and just ruin their show and their surprise?

Kind of. But I can't remember the person.

Now, I want to know who- I can't remember their name.

But Ben was obsessed. I'm like, in this very territorial era. I don't know if it's the hormones, but anytime Ben's texting someone, I'm like, Who's your girlfriend? He talks to a lot of people, and now he's only a lot. There are certain people, the other day, he's giggling in the bed texting someone. I'm like, Who are you texting? He says, Alex Scornicelli. Now, Alex Scornicelli is in the list of approved people Ben can talk to because she's married. She doesn't seem romantically interested in Ben, so I'll allow it.

Everyone else- You got to keep your eyes wide open.

Everyone who else Ben talks to is lesbian. He's literally only allowed to talk to lesbians. I believe the guest on the podcast yesterday was lesbian, and I said, That's fine. He has been texting a lot with Wishbone Kitchen because they're doing a collab. Ben is so excited about it, and he doesn't stop talking about this other woman, and she's on my list now, even though she's a toaster, so she is approved, although she's not a lesbian, she is a toaster, and she's in a relationship, so I'll allow it.

He was talking to this other girl. I guess that's what happens when he's in all these female spaces.

Yes.

He's got a lot of females on his speed dial.

Podcasting and cooking. He was talking to this other girl yesterday, and I'm like, Who's that? He was like, She's a lesbian. Don't worry. He's just talking to a lot of bitches.

Or she buy, Claudia. It's a spectrum.

No, she's lesbian.

One day here, next day there.

And of course, because I said this last week, nobody believes me, I have so many friends who are lesbians. The tailors are always like, he's always texting Taylor. I'm like, That's fine. That's fine.

That's completely fine. Approved.

And I'm in a special type of mood today. On the way to work, my body started to break down. I'm not wearing the right bra. Putting on a bra with clasps and cups is so not in the wheelhouse of things I'm capable of doing. I couldn't possibly fathom putting on a regular bra and clipping it in the back.

Just wait till you have to get the bra extender. What's that? Where it extends. It clasps to the clasp, and it gives you a few more inches, and then it clasps to the other side.

Okay. I don't think I'm going to be needing those because I- You're not going to be wearing your bra. I will not be wearing. I bought these bras on Amazon that I really... Actually, when I was at your house, I was I'm in so much trouble with bras. I just ordered some shit on Amazon that would come the next day. They're a cross between a sports bra, but a stretchy relaxation bra. Comfort. They're nice, but every time I wear them for more than a day, they lose their grip on me. They're disposable. I'm walking to work today, and my tits are seriously hitting my knees. There is no support in this bra. My back was killing me. I get to work, I literally took a ponytail, and I bunched up a lot of the extra material of the bra on the back. I have a halter bra on now. If you see my bra straps through my sweater, I don't want to hear it.

Do you own the bra that I have that you fell in love with this summer? Clasps?

I'm seriously not doing it. Yes, clasp. Asking a pregnant woman to clasp her own bra? No, I'm only looking for over-the-head bras. Okay, an over-the-head situation. Situation, yeah. It's been plaguing me. I love the Skims' bralettes, but I'm at a place now where I need a little bit more support.

And the elastic on the rib cage is tight because it's very supportive.

It doesn't bother me.

I couldn't go for that tightness.

I'm really struggling. Although this halter scrunchy situation I've got going on feels amazing. I'm also using a heating pad. I'm in the phase of breaking down. From a physical perspective, and just know if I've got a little extra edge today, that's why. Great for Jackson Claw. I already was feeling edgy because I was gathering my thoughts about the CMA Awards, and they're all negative. I just started off the day in a really negative mode.

Understood. I feel really fair about going in on the CMAs like we're about to today because we're always gassing off the country music industry. Every award show, we're like, This is how it's done. Grammys, take note. Last night, my ears were bleeding. I don't know what I was watching, but weirdly, I watched from start to finish. I just liked being sat in a part of something, and I was looking for something to watch.

Jack, I'm telling you, cable is where it's at.

It just works for my schedule last night, plus the commercials, as you said. But we need to talk about that because it was not good.

I'm assuming that'll be our first story. I have such nasty things to say about the production, about the talent, about the awards, about the outfits. Seriously, I completely We're always gassing them up. I have the most criticisms I've ever had for an award show that I did last. I didn't even make it more than halfway because I fell asleep at 9:30. I saw what I needed to see. I just want to say all of my critiques, just note, I'm obviously not talking about Luke Holmes because I would never- Obviously not because he saved the show with his presence. If you hear that opening intro and you're not lit up, you're not alive.

I think we need to see twisters.

Just to see the song in action.

I guess.

I love that song, Oklahoma by Luke Holmes. He played it when we saw him at MetLife, and it was So good. He was so good last night. So just know, when I'm slamming the country music community this afternoon, today, whenever, just know, I'm not talking about my King Luke Holmes. I wouldn't touch a hair on his pretty little head.

And they didn't give him any awards, those disgusting animals.

I'm assuming that's our lead story.

It is. Cmas recap plus awards plus moments. So we'll get into that in the first story. I don't want to put the carp before the horse, as they say.

I am experiencing something.

Or as we would say, the curt before the hers.

We would say the curt before the hurt. I'm experiencing something. I don't know if I've ever said this on the podcast, but I never lived alone, or even not alone. I never lived with friends. I went from living at the house we grew up in. I stayed there for a little bit longer than I should have. And then I ended up moving in with Ben. So I never had an adult apartment that was my own, my own space, even with roommates. And so when Ben goes away on work trips, I like to larp that I'm a single gal. I'm like, This is my apartment. And it's really interesting to see how clean I can maintain a space for X amount of time. And so we have our apartment, we have a housekeeper come once a week, and it's the best day of my life. And I always try to maintain as many days of that freshness, but I live with Ben, so if he cooks dinner, we're back at square one. Now, my apartment was just cleaned, and I'm a single gal living in New York City. Every time I use a dish, it gets cleaned immediately and put it away, and all the clothes go in the laundry.

I hate being by myself because I miss Ben and I just hate being alone. But I'm loving this single gal era I'm currently in.

You're finding the joy in it. That's good because that's always been your least favorite, but now you're seeing the plus side.

No, I literally act like I'm a girl who's going on dates.

Stop. She's going to download in.

No, literally. I'm just single. I'm like, Yeah, this is my house. I live here by myself. I'm like, Yeah, I do all the dishes.

You want to come over for drinks?

Yeah. No, it's so... I'm pregnant. It's so mature.

It is mature.

So my house is nice.

My house has never been so clean, and I love it. That's really scary because your house is always so clean.

That's really nice of you to say. It's not. Oh, my God.

What are you talking about? There's not a speck of dust. Everything It's like in a cabinet. You don't let the grass grow.

That's seriously so nice.

Yeah, it's on another level of cleanliness. It really is. Oh, my God. I feel like I've given up trying to achieve that because I'm just like, she's just like, turbo sweeper. Like, her house is just like, very- Oh my God.

I didn't know that you noticed.

That's so sweet. That's so sweet and clean.

And under control.

Yeah.

My house is clean and clear and under control.

And it just goes to show that opposite to track because Ben is the exact polar opposite of you. He's getting worse.

He's really just... I can't.

I'm curious to see when you have a baby, they just come with so much stuff. I'm looking forward to seeing What you do with that stuff because I know you're not going to want to look at it.

I'm so glad you just brought that up because that's... I scared you.

It was loud because it's right by your microphone. I just dropped my phone.

Give me two seconds.

I thought the yogurt might go flying.

I thought the yogurt was going to go flying, too.

That would just be so smelly for days, but it didn't. No, we're all good.

I'm so glad you brought that up because a lot of people are asking me questions. Are you nervous? I'm not. I feel really excited. The one thing that's giving me a little bit of a pit is I feel I'm going to lose control of my home and the order of things. I don't like clutter, but the baby Breza and the battles. I'm worried about clutter. I'm worried about dishes. I'm worried about just an influx of laundry. That is definitely something. I know it's so fucked up. That's my number one concern.

No, I feel like the Breza is so ugly. They got to do something about it. It needs to come in a little Mackenzie Childer box set.

Whatever happened to a dishwasher? You will not ever be able to explain to me why I can't just wash a bottle in the dishwasher.

You can, but how many times you run your dishwasher once a day?

No, once a week.

Right. The bottles, we probably at peak, when they're only on bottles and not food, we're probably running that brezza three or four times a day, and it's a smaller thing than a whole ass dishwasher. But is it dishwasher?

I don't want to get a brezza.

Dishwasher would suffice, yes. Oh, it would?

Yeah.

I don't see why not.

Oh, It's okay.

Then also the brezza dries them, too. You don't want the bottle. I hate that fucking drying rack. Things come out of the dishwasher still wet, so you put it on the drying rack to dry out. Yeah.

See, these conversations, this actually makes me anxious and nervous.

These But also, but I feel like the dishes and the laundry, that'll become part of your routine. That's not the issue. It's the stuff, the mats.

Stroller. Where do people who live in New York City, and by the way, my neighbors better get with it because that stroller is staying in the hallway.

The thing is, I used to feel like, I don't want to see all this kids stuff. I thought that's how I was going to feel. I wouldn't want to buy all this stuff because I don't want to see it. But eventually, by the time I got to the place where I was buying that stuff, looking at it brought me joy. I don't think that's what's going to happen for you.

A lot of people are Is Claudia going to move to the suburbs? Is she going to move? If there's anything that's going to push me, it's not going to be my family. It's going to be the fact that I have no place to hide all of that ugly shit. That is what's going to put me over the edge. Yeah.

Elbow room.

We talked about that. Yesterday, Jackie and I dropped an episode on our Patreon. I want to talk about Patreon really quickly because two things exciting. One, I just got an email that we've been actually asking Patreon to do this for a while. You can now buy Patreon gift cards for the holidays. If there's someone in your life who's always using your Patreon account, you can actually give them the gift of Patreon and sign them up with their email and you pay for it. If you go to Patreon. Com, there are now gift cards, which I think is amazing. And with the holiday season, I wanted to let everyone know that. And two, we just dropped a brand new episode, a big Q&A about everything pregnancy-wise, from a lot of people want to know if I'm moving to Florida. I am not. Stop saying it. I'm not. Trying to conceive, journey, conception. So I think we really covered everything that we had wanted to.

It's a video and audio episode on Patreon.

Com/thetoast. And that's That's what I wanted to say.

Yeah. No. I guess the only question we didn't get to is, how do you feel about the incoming clutter?

I could do a whole episode about that because I seriously feel really bad about it. I feel scared. Where are my minimalist mamas? You always are saying, The cave women did it. They didn't have a baby brezza. Why do I need all this stuff? Are there mamas who just don't? I'm going to be the... It's the de-influencer, non-consumer mama.

Okay, well, the cave women didn't have formula and bottles, so they just breastfed and they didn't have dishes. If you want to strictly breastfeed, you don't need to get a brezza.

Okay, by the way, not enough people talk about how that is definitely a check in the column for breastfeeding. I don't know if I'm going to be able to, but I'm going to try super hard just so I don't have to.

No bottles, no pumping, no dishes.

Oh, because that pump is so fucking big and ugly.

Yeah, no taking the bottle with you on ice wherever you want to go. Just whip it out.

Whip it. Yeah, whip it good. Whip it real good. Not enough people talk about that.

Yeah, it's a major key. So that's what the cave women did. But then also, when you want to be a Minilist mama, then you have to just be cautious of sad beige territory. Because the children do need colors at some point. First, they can only see black and white anyway, but eventually, they need their primaries. You're going to have to see that red, yellow, blue, Roy G. Biv in your house.

I happen to love the rainbow. I love color, even though my design palette for my home is very much like neutrals and a splash of emerald. I happen to I love the rainbow. I think it's so beautiful. I love colors. I'm not put off. I just mean in the common spaces, the Breza. The Breza, for me, is emblematic of the baby consumerism industry and how it's gotten a little too far. I saw a machine I think it's also made by Baby Breza, so sorry for dragging them, but I couldn't believe how stupid this was. That puts the formula and the water together for you. Mixes the formula. Bitch, it's a scoop and a bottle of water. That, to me, is consumerism at its finest.

People love that thing, but I've also heard some bad stories about that thing where they've malfunctioned and they're not putting enough powder formula in the bottle. Babies were hungry. The clinical term is called they're not thriving when they're not gaining enough weight and developing. It was because of those Breza machines.

If you follow the turdies, anti-consumerism, baby mama journey, then you won't have these problems.

Just shake it.

That to me was- I was just saying I never had one of those. I guess It's like if I had the biggest house in the world, seriously, the biggest house, and I needed to fill it up with stuff, and I had unlimited money and unlimited space.

All right, maybe I would get it. You would get an Nespresso for your formula.

But I actually wouldn't because I feel like it takes longer to make the bottle. And the kid is screaming, and I'm hungry. Shake it. I'll be like, Ben, what are you doing? He's like, I'm using the machine. Why? Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. No, you're standing there waiting. Yeah.

Oh, my God. To me, that machine is emblematic of really what's wrong with the baby industry and exploiting mothers, honestly.

I agree, but I just want to let people love it.

I could sound off in the comments, you guys. Do I need one?

No. No. To take it.

No, yeah. How did we get here? Oh, yeah, my back hurts. That's what I'm dealing with. Yeah, I guess- The thing is, actually, I don't know if I'm going to be able to breastfeed, but I fucking better because I put off a breast reduction and lift, seriously, for 10 years. Because I'm like, What if I want to breastfeed my kids? It turns out that I can't, and I could have had perky little tits 10 years ago. I'm going to be so mad.

I'm going to be shoving that tip. There's a lot of things that you can do to troubleshoot.

It just sounds like more jobs, more work.

Yeah, that's really so hard.

Yeah, I know. I spoke to Shontal.

Good. She makes it easier. The lactation specialist. She's got all the tips. Yeah. I mean, but for some people, it just comes really... It's the most natural thing in the world.

Yeah. That's what we were saying. There are girls who, pregnancy is lovely and boobies produce milk at no challenge. I have come to terms with the fact I will literally never be one of those girls. And that's okay. Not everyone's as funny and beautiful as me. We all have been dealt different cards in life.

Your singing voice? I mean, triple threat. That's a couple chips.

I couldn't ask for anything more. So I can't complain, but I need to know. I can't go into it being like, Oh, yeah, I'll be one of those girls. I'm not. I'm not one of them girls. Where was Lee Bryce last night?

Not there. Not there singing Summer of Us. And That's why the show stunk. Let's get into our CMA recap and the Fast Five stories without further ado.

And dear toaster, we will do it today.

How many do we have?

I have a few. I have to sift through them. I want the best the cream to rise. Just stay tuned for that.

Love it. I already didn't make my segue. Oh, you did? Yeah.

Ta-da. Okay, so Ta-da is brought to you by Nutrafall. If anyone has experienced hair thinning, shedding any hair issue, You know, I mean, I have. It was literally the worst thing I've ever been through in my entire life. Nutrafall is here to seriously just bring joy to everyone. It is a clinically tested formula for anyone who's experiencing hair issues. Now, it's a number one dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement. It's trusted by over a million people. If you want to see thicker, stronger, faster growing hair with less shedding in just three to six months, you can do that with Nutrafall. When I went on my big weight loss journey, something I did not expect. I was like, Loving life, feeling so good, and then brushing my hair, seeing clumps falling out in the shower all over my lap when I would blow dry my hair. It was really traumatizing, and I did not know what to do. I actually asked people on Instagram, and so many people recommend a Nutrafall. It targets the root cause. You might not know why your hair is thinning or shedding. The best thing about Nutrafall is they're going to target the root cause.

For me, it was a change in diet, but it can be stress, it can be change in diet, it can be menopause, it can be postpartum. If you change to a plant-based diet, there's really a great approach to it from Nutrafall. Nutrafall. It's physician formulated. Also, it's 100% drug-free ingredients. The supplements support healthy hair growth from within by targeting the root cause of thinning. Again, that can be hormones, that can be aging, that can be nutrition. Whether you're gifting yourself or a loved one, give the gift of great hair growth this holiday season. Right now with NutraFall, they're offering our listeners $10 off any order. So that's free shipping when you subscribe at nutrafall. Com. Enter our promo code. It's a new code, so it's the Toast Gift. That's N-U-T-R-A-F-O-L. Com. Promo code, The Toast Gift. Today's episode is also brought to you This holiday season, elevate yours and your loved ones' wardrobe with some winter essentials from Roback. Whether you're in need of warm layers for yourself, buying gift for others, Roback has what you need. First up, their new fleece. It's cropped just right. I feel like everybody, all the cool girls on social are wearing cropped little fleece It's really nice.

The Roback one is so good. It fits great. It has a looser fit. It really has that cozy but very chic elevated look. It's really the perfect gift for anyone who likes to be active outside in the winter or comfortable while relaxing at home. Then there's the Clarity Hoodie and Jogger set. I love the sets from Roback. I think that's the best thing. If you're going to buy one thing from them, you need it. It's a cotton-poly blend. It's ridiculously soft. It has a cropped hoodie and joggers that are really comfortable, but also flattering mid-rise fit. Then their Tempo hood and Jogger set. It is the softest set, I think, on the website. Fabric is amazing. The joggers are the perfect length. Also, don't sleep on their men's stuff, especially the sets for men. I feel like it's hard for men to wear comfy clothes that don't look slabbish. And Roback is the best thing. So if you're looking for something for a brother, a dad, a husband for Christmas or Hanukah, Check out Roback. Don't sleep on their men's stuff. I think it's like their best stuff on the website. They're also having their biggest sale of the year for 20% off the entire website for all customers.

That's 20% off hoodies, joggers, fleeices, and more. There's no code needed. Just head over to their website, robach. Com, and introduce others to the most comfortable active wear in the game this holiday season. That's roback. Com, 20% off all hoodies, joggers, fleeices, and more. Today's episode is also brought to you by Dossier. Dossier has become one of our favorite perfume brands since we started wearing them last year. We've both been wearing their perfume on repeat. And I love the concept of this brand. A lot of people don't know that the perfume industry has an incredibly high markup across designer perfumes. And that's why Dacier was... That was their mission when they got started was to make luxury fragrances accessible. So at Dacier, each scent is crafted with the best ingredient source from Grass France, which is the perfume capital of the world. Their perfume developers are among the top industry experts. They've worked with some of your favorite designer perfume brands, and they have a wide range of designer fragrance impressions. Basically dupes because you can't patent a fragrance formula. Dacier is out here just making very similar fragrances to some of the most expensive brands in the world.

They'll tell you exactly what it smells like. You don't have to go on a sniff test. They're like, This smells like Dolce & Gabbana.

It's so genius. I didn't know, first of all, that the industry had such a high markup. I also didn't know that you couldn't patent. So good. I can make this at home. Thanks. This November, Dossier is in the holiday spirit. They're offering Black Friday sales early. Starting right now, they have discounts as high as 55% off, so be sure to stock up on your favorite perfumes. Pick up a few gifts for the ones that you love. It's a perfect way to treat yourself and share the gift of luxury scents with everybody on your list. At Dossier, Indulging in Luxury is a personal pleasure that everybody can enjoy each day. Visit dossier. Co and use code toast at checkout for 10% off your next order. That's D-O-S-S-I-E-R. Co. Use code toast for 10% off your next order and check out their big sale happening now.

Thank you.

What can I...

Thank you, turt happening now.

Say, accept, jurt happening now.

Our first... Oh my God, she's emotional. I have to address the frog every time. My frog and I are embarrassed. But first Story, CMA Awards 2024. Recap, winners, performances. Where do we want to start? Let's start with the beginning, which were the hosts.

I was unaffedded by them.

So unfunny and not charming or enjoyable, but not offensive.

They were not offensive. And I did think, I'm like, damn, what is Peyton Manning running from? The man says yes to everything, and he's such a legend, and the way they talk about him, you would never know because he's at the opening of every envelope. And he doesn't need to be doing things like this. He's seriously a decorated Hall of Fame. He still does football stuff. People love that him and Eli do, like TV, ESPN recap, whatever. So every time I see him, and last night, I was like, he's working so hard. Why? Why? Go home. Go be your dad. I was seriously judging. I'm like, Get out of here.

Maybe he's a shopaholic, and he has a very high credit card bill, and he needs to work really hard to sustain his level of living.

Although I don't think that hosting the CMAs is a big payday.

No, but it puts your name out there. So the big paydays come for other stuff. They see you in this game, so then they're like, You got hosting chops.

And Luke, it's also very good to just be in the good graces with the CMA brand because you want to win Awards. I understand why they do it because Luke Bryant's a big star. He doesn't need to be hosting this. Laine is on her way up. I totally get why she did it. I understand why it's politics at that point for the country music artists. Seriously, why the fuck was Peyton Manning there? I really feel like he is unhappy at home, and He's spending as much time away from his family as he can. That's what it looks like to me. He's always everywhere.

To me, it looks like he has very expensive hobbies.

Because you know what? You know who's not doing things like that? His brother Eli. We actually saw his brother Eli on the beach this summer. What What is he doing? So busy with his kids. Happy family, man. I'm telling you, there's something going on in Peyton Manning's personal life. He's saying yes to too many low-brow things.

Well, that's a conversation, an episode for another day because the CMA Awards took place, and he was in participation. So the hosts, I thought, stunk, but again, not offended.

A show isn't made or broken by a host. Who cares?

Especially if they're not trying so hard. So it was just fine. They were a conduit from one thing to the next with their little jokes. Performers and winners, which you want to do first.

Performers.

Performers. The show opened with- Who opened? Post Malone and Chris Stapleton. Post Malone and Chris Stapleton.

They were good. They were fine, yeah.

Yeah. I mean, everyone loves both of them. I thought they sounded really good, and it didn't clue me in yet that all the mics were fucked up, and they were going to be fucked up for the entire show.

There was a production issue going on at that arena.

Yes. Yes. Other performers, who were your favorites? Let's start with the good news.

Luke Holmes was amazing. Yes. Excuse me. They were amazing.

That girl. They sounded just like their record.

I have ended up on this side of TikTok. People are obsessed with him. They perform it. I think she opens for him on tour. Then she comes out when he's the headlining, and they sing it together almost every night, and they have amazing chemistry. I think people are writing fan fiction about them because they're so dying for them. It's gorgeous. They need to get married. I love them. I've been following a lot of the lore, and I was really excited to see them live. She's new to the country scene. This song is huge for her. It's an amazing song. It's so different. What's her name? Ella Langley.

Ella Langley.

She's amazing. She's a rising star in country. I thought she was one of the best performers, and I actually thought Reilly Green sounded terrible.

I thought she sounded great. She had such riz. When she was walking, the whole room stopped and stared. She sounded exactly like what she sounds on her song. She was really impressive. I never saw her before, but Of course, I heard that song because I'm a living, breathing individual, and I was really impressed by her.

I completely agree. I'm so glad you liked it, and I need you to get on the fan fiction.

People are writing books about that. Because he's single. We saw him perform.

He's so handsome. I don't know. I feel like he dates a lot of models and stuff, behind the scenes, which I don't love for him. I want him to date her, but I don't know a lot about his personal life.

Got it. One of my favorite performances was Casey Musgraves, The Architect. That song is Harjiness in a bottle. She really showed up and showed them. It's like, Oh, you thought I went to the other world? No, I'm here.

I actually don't think she showed up and showed them. I think it was a little bit like, Hey, how you all doing? I'm back. Hey, I'm back. Yeah. I went to the pop world, and I want to come back, please. I'm glad that they had her perform, and I'm glad she's really back in the country fold because I think she makes her best music when she's not trying to be something that she's not, and she just embraces her roots. That song, The Architect is so country.

Like, simple songs.

I was actually really happy for her. With an eternal message. She looked gorgeous.

I do feel like it was a little bit like, Hey, guys, I'm back. Tale between my legs. Yeah. But her performance- Spoke for itself. She earned her spot. It wasn't like, Oh, pop, want to be, get out of here. No, no, no, no.

I agreed.

Then my boy Shibuzi performed. He performed two songs. He started with Highway, and then he went into a bar song. And that was when the evening shifted for me, because up until that point, The songs were slower, and people weren't singing along or standing. But then a bar song comes on, and that's been the biggest song of the year. And not one person that they panned to knew the lyrics.

That was weird. It really highlighted a weird energy in the room. I would have loved to speak to someone who was there, if we're the vibes off? Because how everyone was not getting up, dancing, popping their pussy for Shibuzi was so strange, even though I did feel like his vocals, he was also having some production issue because I know he can sing. I've seen him perform that song many times.

At a certain point, there were production issues because people who we know can sing didn't sound like themselves. Megan Maroney. You know what we needed? We needed Miley when she was singing flowers. She's like, I know you guys know this fucking song. Get up and dance.

I would feel like it was targeted towards Shibuzi. Then after that performance, I didn't notice it. Everyone was in a bad mood the whole night. It was not Shibuzi targeted, but that's what made me realize it, because that is the bit. I have never went on Spotify and clicked to that song. I know every single word.

Yeah. That was really weird to me, and I was like, This is a sleepy crowd.

Yeah.

It's like maybe they can't even hear. I mean, something was off with the audio, but I was like, Okay, the vibes are off at this show.

Yeah. What other performances?

Chris Stapleton performed with Post Malone and then alone. He performed a song, What Am I going to Do? He always sounds good. Post Malone also performed alone, and he did not sound good, even though he has a nice voice.

Yeah, he did not. I didn't think he sounded good in the opening either, so I didn't want to be mean I'm not going to say that because you were being nice.

But we know he has a nice voice. I think he was really... I think they were all really sabotaged.

Do you think he felt victim to the production issues?

Yes.

Okay.

Megan Maroney.

Oh, my God. She was the most sabotaged because I've seen her perform live. She can sing. That's her thing.

I don't know. I felt like the song she was singing wasn't big enough sonically for an award show. It's just a little ditty. The production was bigger than the song.

You know who absolutely slayed, but she always shows up and does the job. Kelsey Mallarini. She has an amazing voice. She did not fall victim to any. She was not letting those in-ear monitor. She was not letting any of it get her. She sounded vocally. Stunning.

Yeah. I really like that song with Noah Khan, I guess. Kehan? Even though there's an extra A.

Jellys Roll performed with Brooks and Dawn. Jellys Roll looked amazing. I didn't know that he was on this health journey when they cut to him. Oh, my God. He had such a light in his I thought he looked amazing. I'm so happy for him. I think they said he lost 75 pounds.

He also performed a song Liar with Keith Urban, which is the only song from the evening that I've now added to my Spotify. I loved that song. Also-you Ain't Nothing I was listening this morning in the car. Liar.

This keeps happening to me. I really liked, and you know I don't really like Thomas Red. I loved his performance with Teddy Swims.

Yeah.

That was actually a song that I felt like everybody in the crowd was singing. It's funny how everybody knew that song.

And Thomas Red has only won two CMAs when they introduced him. I thought that was a little embarrassing.

Let's get to the awards because that's really my big gripe.

Yes. So the awards, Chris Stapleton was the big winner, and I just feel like when that happens, no one can really say anything. He won a song of the Year.

I can say something. Let me say this. I am a big country music fan, but it's not my only genre. So I very much exist within the country music space, but also in popular culture and pop music. So I think that I bring a unique POV. I do not know that Chris Stapleton song. Yeah. I hadn't heard it. For him to beat Shibuzi so many times, they went out of their way not to give Shibuzi an awards. I'm sorry, CMA is not beating the allegations that they don't like Black people. I'm sorry. Like with Beyoncé and now Shibuzi, I tried to defend you, but you're becoming indefensible. You can't give it to Shibuzi, the biggest best song of the year. You're literally going out of your way to not give him a single award.

No, that was the song of the year. There's no disputing it.

Now I'm looking at CMA like... Because with Beyoncé, I felt that people were making valid arguments on both sides about whether she deserved to be nominated. I think she did deserve to be nominated, but I could hear a country music critic, whatever. Shibuzi is undeniably the biggest country music artist this year. The fact that his song did not even get a single award. I'm looking at CMAs a little suspiciously.

Then Chris Spableton also won male vocalist of the year. When he won, they announced they were eight-time winner, and they panned to Luke Holmes, and he's like, eight.

Who loses to him every year.

He goes eight times.

I think people were misconstruing that, thinking he was mad. I think it was more of an impressed vibe.

Impressed, shocked. That's so funny. I didn't think he was mad. I don't think Luke gets mad about this stuff. I think he's enjoying his vibe.

I get mad on his behalf. He have seriously snubbed for every single award. He didn't go home with one single award, but okay.

However, entertainer of the year did not go to Chris Stapleton, shockingly. And what was so shocking was that it went to Morgan Wallen, who was not there. And Jeff Bridges read the card, and he said, Morgan Whalen, which I really related to as someone who doesn't pronounce anyone's name right. Then they were like, Morgan Whalen, and he's not here. Jeff is like, So I'm accepting this award on his behalf. He's like, to the girl. He's like, Give me the award.

It's really crazy for the biggest award of the night to go to someone who's not there, but that means that it's fair because- It goes to show that That's really how the academy voted. And that's actually the one award I don't have a big gripe with because obviously, I wish my boy Luke won. But for the past couple of years, it has so clearly been the entertainer of the year, Luke or Morgan. They're on the same level. They play the same size arenas as Beyoncé, as Taylor Swift, as Ed Sheeran. They're undeniably making the biggest impact in popular culture for the country music space. So while I obviously wish it had been Luke, I think Morgan is so deserving. I have no problems with it. I'm fine with it.

No issue. I wonder why he didn't go.

I'm sure Luke feels the same way, to lose to somebody who he actually feels is on his level, not some Rando.

I just feel like Chris Stapleton, it's like when people don't know what to do, they just go Chris Stapleton, and he's not offensive, but it's not exciting.

I don't know how you become-Not exciting. How you beat everyone as the male vocalist of the year, but then you lose to the entertainer of the year.

Maureen was nominated for male vocalist, but that's more so about songs, whereas entertainers are about tickets, tickets, tickets. Brand. Et cetera.

Okay, go through the awards, the main I can get it. Okay, so I can get. Okay.

So entertainer, Morgan Wallen. Single of the Year, White Horse by Chris Stapleton.

Should have been Shibuzi.

Album of the Year, Went to Leather by Cody Johnson. And beat out Fathers & Sons by Lou Holmes, Deeperwell by Casey Musgraves, Hire by Beat Chris Stapleton in his own game, and Witzit Chapel by Jolly Roll. Actually, in addition to Liar, I will be listening to Cody Johnson's album because he performed with Cary Underwood. It sounded really nice, and I feel like I would like him. That was my two takeaways.

I like Cody Johnson. I don't think that any of these albums were the album of the year, so whoever they gave it to, fine.

Who do you think it is?

That's what I'm saying. I don't know. The big ones didn't really release this year, Morgan and Luke.

Well, Luke did Fathers and Sons. Yeah, but that was It wasn't like Game Busters. It was like a passion project.

Yeah. Honestly- So I'm fine with this.

I also would have given it to Deeperwell. I think that album is so party to imperfect, and she doesn't get enough credit. I think everyone not- Because she does have her tail between her legs. But the song The Architect is like a marvel.

It's special.

It's so special. She's not getting enough credit.

I agree. She's working her way back up, I think, the country music ladder, for real. I think that people really did not take it well, that she blew up from country and really left them behind.

Yeah.

Then went on to do breadwinner, and it was like pop. It wasn't a good look, honestly. She's my queen. I literally, I invented her in this universe. I've been listening to her longer than any of you snitches have. You don't know a patch of material.

She left you, too. She left me, too.

I did not listen to Breadwinner. That album was not for me. I don't know who. It was for her, like new fans.

Yeah. Next. Song of the Year went to Whitehorse by Chris Stapleton.

And what else was nominated?

Burn It Down, Dirt Cheap, I Had Some Help, and The Painter. Actually, Shibuzy wasn't even nominated for that.

That was weird, too. I had some help, Should've, One. And I don't know why I didn't see a single nomination for Post Malone's song, Pour Me a Drank, with Blake Shelton, which I think is bigger than the Morgan Wallen one.

I mean, we all have our Post Malone clubs that are, to us, bigger than the Morgan Wallen one.

That's not even my favorite one. I'm just saying, based on how I see the culture and where it's playing in Dwayne Reid, it's the Blake Shelton one, weirdly, which there was no hype for. Everybody was hype for the Morgan one.

I feel like the Morgan one did what it needed to do.

I mean, it's good. The thing is that my overall takeaway from the CMAs, and I know that I come in with a special POV. I'm very internet, right? There's a whole country music scene, country radio. I don't even live in the south. That counts for something, too, of course. Now, my POV in the world I exist in isn't the only one, but I think it accounts for a huge part of success for people. Tiktok, social media. Is your music being played in New York? That's how you know a song is really successful. I just feel like they completely discounted anything that isn't The old-school traditional country, music country, radio, country, world. And that is Shibuzi. That is TikTok. That is social media. So I was really disappointed to see that they were not willing to open up their world at all. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. And then there was also the other random shit that they keep doing. Female vocalist of the year, Laine Wilson.

Who else was nominated?

Kelsey Balerini, Ashley McBride, Megan Maroney, Casey Musgraves, Laine Wilson.

It was Kelsey Balerini's year. Yeah. It was.

Laine Wilson is the female Chris Stapleton. Nobody's going to complain when you give it to her except for us.

By the way, that's literally it, what you just said.

But the country music industry loves her, loves him.

And I say this every year.

I love her. Totally talented.

I love her.

I have no issue with you.

Hang tight, honey, I'm a wild light, running down a dream of a long lost highway. Like, obsessed.

And then the only other category we need to discuss is New Artist of the Year, which went to Megan Maroney, and she beat out Shibuzi, Nate Smith, Mitchell Tenpenny, Zack Top, and Bayly Zimmerman. And as much as I would have gone for Shibuzi, I also would have gone for Megan Maroney. I'm happy with either.

You're a little biased because I can tell you that Shibuzi deserved to win for Bar Song because the song was so big. His album and his breadth of work has has been taken on that life yet. Megan Roni has tons of hits. She has a whole album that everybody loves. She is more of a well-rounded artist. While it remains to be seen if he's a viral Old Town Road, or will it be this big, long career? We're feeling Very defensive of Shibuzi. I didn't think he should have won that category.

I would have been happy if he won, but I was so happy to see her win. She was so happy to win. She was so gorgeous.

She's a beautiful- She's a beautiful girl.

She's a beautiful woman.

Oh, my God. That face. The hair. I don't know. I think she thought she wasn't going to win, so she was really surprised. That was a really nice moment.

Yeah.

Of which I think there were for you.

Yeah, it was not their best. It wasn't country music's best night. Maybe their biggest, not their best.

They just appear to be It's getting smaller. Do you know what I mean? It sucks because it feels like so many pop artists want to get involved in country music. Beyoncé, Post Malone, the biggest. I feel like every year, more and more people show up to the CMAs and do a collab, Teddy Swims. It feels like the CMAs is so not receptive to that. They're not willing to open up.

I don't think they want all that.

It's nice.

No, I don't think they want everyone coming in and doing a little CMA spin. But I do think the people who are in the industry, in all corners in that genre should be more appreciated than the selected few.

Yeah. No, they have their selects. Their selects. And I'm over it, so over it.

The least you could do is fix your sound problems. You're not embarrassing these talented artists. My ears were bleeding at some point.

Yeah. And I don't want to be mean, but the worst... I'm not going to say it.

There was one person who was saying, I was like, My ears are actually bleeding. This is crazy. And I forget who it was, and I think that's for the best.

I know who it was, but I won't say it.

Who? Will you text me?

We were texting about it.

We were texting me on everything.

Okay, whatever. I'll tell you after.

Okay. Are you ready for our next story? One of our favorite categories of stories. Favorite books It's turning into movies, casting news. Anne Hathaway will star in an adaptation of Colleen Hoover's Verdi for Amazon, MGM Studios, and Michael Schawalter. Following the success of the Amazon film, The Idea of You, Anne Hathaway and director Michael Schow Walter, have found their next big project to team up on. She is set to star in Amazon MGM Studio's upcoming feature, Verdi, which Showalter is helming. They did idea of You Together, now they're doing Verdi, based on the number one New York Times best seller by Colleen Hoover. Nobody doesn't like this book.

This is an amazing book, and it will be a very good movie. Am I wrong in remembering Verdi being blonde? Not that Anne Hathaway can't be blonde, but was she blonde?

Or that Verdi can't be brunette.

Right. Because Verdi is the woman upstairs.

Yeah. She's not who I pictured for Verdi, but she's a woman actress who can get the job done.

She's actually not at all who I pictured. My initial thought when I saw this, I was like, meh. But then I did remember the idea of you, which I was very critical of the book. I opened my iPad on a plane, ready to hate the movie, and I absolutely loved it. So she did that project justice. She's got a little bit more credit in my book now that she did that. I'll wait.

This casting of her doesn't excite me that much. But what excites me is that this is getting off the ground. They're obviously taking it seriously. It's going to be big budget, and it's going to be as good as it can be. So I'm excited about that. And it's not like I had anyone in mind that I was like, This person is Verdi. Also, as much as Verdi is the title character, she's not the main character.

She's barely in it.

I want to know who's playing Loan.

Is that her name? I always pictured Verdi, the crazy blonde lady upstairs, as what What's her name? Diane Kruger?

Oh, but she's- Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but she's a little bit older. Then- There already is like, Diane... Oh, no, I'm sorry. You're thinking of Diane Keen.

No, from Ingllorious Bastards. Yes.

Oh, that's good, too.

That's choked by Christoff Walsh. I don't know why I've always thought of her as like, she's like running around the upstairs looking crazy in a robe.

Yeah. And the sources say that this will be in theaters.

Oh, I love that.

Yeah, it has the potential to be... I said this about Hasme too, so I feel like they're going to be coming out at the same time. The Next Gone Girl, really. It's a great thriller book, and if done well, we'll crush it.

I'm so glad that even though it had its drama, I'm so glad that It Ends With Us did so well in theaters because that means that movies like that will be put in theaters, and it's not just big Dwayne The Rock Johnson movies in theaters anymore.

Yeah. No, it circumvents that Matt Damon. Well, it plays into it because it's like there's an existing audience, and we know this is going to do gangbusters because millions of people have read the book. But now we're getting quality movies, and we're back to rom-coms and romance stories, and for the girls, and not just San Andreas' fault.

Correct.

I'm glad that they found a solution to the lack of DVDs.

Yes. For the girls. When the movie comes out, I will go to theaters and support. I didn't realize that it was difficult to get our type of movies into theaters. Now when they are released in theaters, we all have to go.

Yeah. My husband's going to love to hear that.

I'll literally go with him.

I'll go with him to do our Our part.

Yes. We all have to do our part transnationally.

Yeah. That's exciting.

That is.

We'll keep you posted on other casting news.

She's a good actress. Do you know what I mean? A talented actress. That's really all it takes. Yes. Even if it's not what we vision. Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story? Coachella lineup dropped. Coachella 2025. Headliners are Lady Gaga, Night One, Green Day, Night Two, Post Malone, Night Three, and then some sub-headliners are Missy Elliott, Benson Boon, Charlie XCX, Lisa, Tyler. That's what I'm crazy, that Charlie XCX wouldn't be a headliner for Coachella. Do you agree? She's the second. She's right before Green Day that. I think that's a fair place for her.

Yeah. No, no. When you think about Lady Gaga, they're not on the same level. But when you think about how many people know her music, especially the type of people that go to Coachella, I would have thought she could have been a headliner.

Maybe she could have been, but if they didn't get Green Day or Post Malone. I think her being right under there, and then her next album, she could totally be a headliner. I feel like that feels right. Remember when we went to Coachella and Billy Eilish was second?

She was at some random stage.

Right. But she's bigger now. Now she headlined. I feel like it feels right.

When we went to Coachella, Lady Gaga was a headliner, and it was amazing. She is such a performer. I'm shocked that she's the Friday night, not the Sunday.

She said this. She said, I have long dreamed of throwing a massive night of chaos in the desert. It's like, Girl, we weren't there.

Maybe she wasn't the number one headline. No, she totally was.

She was. She said, I've had a vision. I've never been able to fully realize that Coachella for reasons beyond our control, but I wanted to come through for music fans. What do you mean? We got a crap?

I thought it was amazing. I loved every minute of it.

I have been wanting to go back and do it right, and I am. What did she do?

Why does she have to be excited about something else?

Shit on our experience.

Shit on the one that we went to.

Now it's like the bar is so high. What the fuck are you going to do? What couldn't you do?

Ben's going to want to go see Green Day.

He could go for the night.

Do you have the time? Like, he's going to mosh.

And Post Malone will be good as well. Yeah, very good. This is a pretty good headline and lineup. I would say only good things, except at the bottom, it says Travis Scott designs the desert.

Yikes. Run for your life.

Yeah. I feel like that's worse than having him as a performer. He's designing a festival.

He's a part of the infrastructure. That's way worse than having him headline all three nights. That's It's terrible.

Why would they do that? If you're getting tickets, keep that in mind. Designed by Travis Scott. Are they okay? The more I say it, the crazier it sounds.

Stay towards the back.

The more I say it, the crazier it sounds.

Yeah, of course. For him to be involved in a festival is already like, yikes. But you would assume his involvement is singing.

Just like, artistically.

Him being boots on the ground in charge of security. I don't know. I don't like it.

I don't think that's what it... I'm sure it's just like he's doing some art or shit, but Phrasing it like that, Travis Scott designed this festival. No, thanks.

Run fast for your mother, run fast for your father. I wasn't planning on going. But if I was, this would definitely give me pause.

And if I was, now I'm feeling a little itchy to boycott, just to let you guys know this was a bad idea.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's really crazy.

It is.

I'm not seeing really enough energy for that. Yeah. So he can... Yeah. I'm sorry. The more I think about it, I'm flabbergasted.

Gefad, even though that's not the right word.

Are you ready for our next story, number 4?

Yeah.

It's a little reboot, new spinoff, I guess. Spinoff. Suits LA is bringing back Harvey Specter. Gabriel Macht will return on an-Oh my God, the man of my dreams.

Jewish king.

On an NBC spinoff. This is the news Suits fans have been waiting for. The star of the hit legal drama will appear on upcoming NBC spinoff, Suits LA. Gabriel Macht, who played the brash and suave super lawyer, Harvey Specter on the original series, will reprise his role on the offshoot in a three-episode arc. Sources tell Deadline, a rep for NBC decide to comment.

It's Suits LA, but it's not surrounded around Harvey. He's just on three episodes.

I guess so. It's a passing of the baton.

Perhaps. This is like the Shake Shack news. You must read the fine print.

Suitsla. Suitsla. Yeah. I actually feel like suits spinoff shows have largely failed.

They had that Pearson one, Jessica Pearson, who was a favorite of a lot of people. She had her own law firm show. I don't know. I'm not optimistic, It's really chic, especially because it's... If they were going to do one spinoff, the most beloved... It's Harvey. Everyone loves Harvey. He's so handsome. I feel like perhaps the time for this has passed, even though so many people got into suits in the last year or two. Oh my God, imagine it's successful and like, Megan Markle does an episode. Obsessed. That's, by the way, we all have to watch it. We need to make it popular so that that happens.

I could see it happening. I saw a headline yesterday that Prince Harry was getting tattoos with Jellys Roll or something like that. You're kidding. No, I need to get the exact headline because it was so shocking. I was like, in what world are we living in?

Yeah, that's really crazy. Good for Jolly Roll.

Prince Harry jokes he wants a lower back or ass tattoo in hilarious video with Jolly Roll. That's a headline that I saw.

Queen Elizabeth is rolling over in her grave.

I don't know which part of this Is more shocking. I saw that headline. I was like, Imagine Prince William reading that over his morning tea. He's going to choke on his tea.

He's going to choke. Maybe that was Harry's plan all along.

He wants a lower back or ass tattoo? Is he okay?

Why? Seriously, growing up and maturing is realizing Prince Harry has always been, and it will always be the problem. He was the problem in his family. He's the problem in his marriage. Megan took so much in, and it's him. It's literally him. I have such a hate for him. I think we collectively need to rescue Megan. I think maybe suits law is the thing to just give her the confidence to take her life back.

Well, recently, I've really been itching. I've been ready for and I'm in a place to really receive the American Reveal Sarah Orchard show. I was thinking- Is it out? No. Where is it? She launched her Lemon's Basket.

I had to change the name, remember?

Yeah, in the spring. But those PR baskets went out in the spring.

We're coming up- How did we get on that list?

On almost one year, there's no show.

That's so, Megan. That's my queen right there. Announcing projects, cutting the check, and not finishing. That's literally me.

It's goals. How do you get away with that? I feel like we're always being to our deliverables.

It's so true. She is just never finishing what she's starting.

I love that. A $20 million podcast deal with Spotify for two highly-produced seasons where she probably did a total of speaking of 2 hours.

That's what it's about, life, being a businesswoman, taking your time back. No, I love her. She's exploiting these big companies for her own self-interest, and I live for it.

It's just like, you would think at some point, the issue with doing something like that is that the buck runs out and people are on to you and they'll stop right- No, but everyone's lighting up.

They want to work with her.

Yeah.

That's not being interesting and beautiful and really mysterious.

Yeah, but I'm just saying, every night when I go to watch, she'd be like, If American- That's what you're looking for. Aro was out, I would be watching it. The fact that it's not here, it's the season for a nice cozy cooking show.

She really needs that. I do think she has great recipes, and she's definitely organic. She makes her own butter and shit.

She's chicken.

Yeah. I think that it's a missed opportunity, especially 'tis the damn season.

'tis the season. Time is a waste in. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

If it's our fifth and final story, that's brought to you by sacks. Com.

Oh, it is turd. Com.

The premier digital platform for luxury fashion. With the holidays literally right around the corner, sacks. Com makes it easy to find the perfect gift for the piquest of people on your list. Or if you're just shopping for yourself, they've got an expertly curated assortment of fashion. So whether you're shopping for a hard to please family member, Jacqueline Follet, someone that seems to have everything, Jacqueline Follet, or even your ultra-stylish bestie, Jacqueline Follet, sacks. Com has you covered with the most versatile collection of fashion, beauty, home decor, and so much more. And there's something about doing your holiday shopping online that really is integral in protecting your piece. And I think when you go to the stores, if you're going last minute, and you end up not getting the right thing because you're overwhelmed, you just want to get out of the store, you're sweating, and you need to eat something. So Sacks. Com is just a really civilized, organized, user friendly way of doing your holiday shopping. And of course, gift giving is not everyone's language. It's definitely stressful around the holiday this season. But with sacks. Com's holiday gift guide, you'll be able to find the perfect gifts for him, for her, kids, beauty gifts, whatever it is.

We all need a little inspiration when it comes to holiday shopping. And sacks. Com is here to also help you find your own holiday vibe. So you can upgrade party looks this season. Treat yourself to designer brands like Alice and Olivia, Frame, Prada, Gucci, and more. After all, holiday shopping is never complete without spoiling yourself first. So head over to sacks. Com, get ready to be the best gift giver ever and find gifts guaranteed to bring joy for every heart to shop for a person this holiday season at sacks. Com. Let's make this holiday season memorable for you and your loved ones. Today's episode is also brought to you by Good Rancher, something we've been talking about so much recently on the toast, and we're so excited to be working with Good Ranchers. It's long been debated at Thanksgiving. Is it turkey or is it ham? Many families have Had ruined holidays over the simple question, If you picked either, you'd be wrong because the third incorrect option is a free ham from Good Rancher's worth $110. During their Thanksgiving special, you can choose any box of their 100% American meat and wild-cut seafood and get a free 10-pound spiral-cut ham added for So take that turkey.

And of course, by shopping with Good Ranchers, you are directly supporting local farms and ranches in the US. And if everyone's spending the money this holiday season anyway on a big turkey or a big ham, do it at Good Ranchers. It's so much more ethical. It's premium. It's American made. You can skip the chaos of imported meat at the grocery store. And most importantly, you can make time at the table with family easy, delicious, and stress-free dinners. Good Ranch delivers high-quality, 100% American meat straight to your door. You can celebrate what matters most this Thanksgiving with the people that you love, and you don't have to lug a big, gross turkey that's not even made in America, home from the grocery store and break your back. Enjoy 100% American meat, a free 10-pound spiral-cut ham, and get connected to American Farms and Ranchers this November at goodranchers. Com. If food you can trust matters to you, then put the car keys down. Don't go to the grocery store and go to goodranchers. Com instead, and use our code, toast, at checkout. Be sure to order by November 19th for a guaranteed delivery by Thanksgiving. Remember to visit goodranchers.

Com. Use our code toast to claim a free Thanksgiving ham before they run out. And if you're thankful for the farmers and ranchers of this country, go to goodranchers. Com and support them with every order. Goodranchers. Com code toast. It's American meat delivered. Today's episode is also brought to you by Splash Refreshers. Oh, so glad to be talking about this. Splash Refreshers came into my life at a time when I really needed it. Hydration is mandatory, unfortunately. We all do have to drink water. But being boring is not. We respect a good cup of water, but sometimes you got to spice it up because sometimes it's just not going to cut it. And Splash Refresher has become our ride or die when it comes to staying hydrated and having good, delicious beverages in our home and at our office. Because plain water just tastes like the color beige. No matter how hard we try, we're always just a little bit dehydrated. We can never be bothered with a boring glass of water. It's really like pulling teeth, but that's where Splash Refresher comes in. It has zero sugar, zero calories, and a splash of sweetness.

It's like water But it's good. And it's flavored, it's delicious, and it'll keep you hydrated. So make splash refresher your go-to hydrator. It'll put a smile on your face even on the tough days. They have great fruit-freshing flavors, available in five craveable flavors. They are there to satisfy your need for hydration with a little bit of flavor, a little bit of spice. So you could try all their flavors. Wild Berry, acai, grape, pineapple, mango, lemon, and mandarin orange. I happen to love the Wild Berry, but I'll really drink any of them. This is why I love what I do. I'm introduced to brands. I hadn't heard of Splash Refresher, and now I literally can't live without it. I had one yesterday. We always have them stocked at the house, at the studio. Drinking water is so hard, and Splash Refresher is just over here trying to help, and we appreciate that more than they know. So consider yourself hydrated, self-thriving. Find Splash Refresher today on Amazon and Instacart or at your local Walmart, Sam's Club or Kroger. If you're looking for a Splash Refresher, they are not hard to find, so just check it out and you will not be upset that you did.

Thank you, Claudia.

You're welcome.

Our fifth and final story is some podcasting news, which we'll get into in a second, but it reminded me also of Megan Markel and Lemonada. Remember when we reported that? Oh, yeah. What was that? Lemonada got her podcast, and I was just reading up on it. They said that they pushed the launch of the podcast till 2025, so it's not to compete with her new Netflix show, cooking show, The American Reader. Which It didn't come out. Right. So we're just like, we're getting pushed back more.

I'm obsessed.

Our fifth and final story is Giving Lemonada, which is why I remembered that, because someone is entering this podcasting sphere.

Who?

Christie Tegan launches a new wellness podcast called Self-Cconscious. It is an audible exclusive. Christie Tegan is adding another title to her resume, Podcaster. She shares that she hopes her show can help people break the cycle of negative thoughts. She She said, All we do is negative self-talk all day, and I think it's just this beautiful hour release where we can do something to better ourselves and learn something. I honestly really hope that people learn to give themselves a lot of grace. I think it's really easy to be tough on ourselves and easy to think that we're not doing enough. We're not exercising enough. We are not meditating enough. I don't really worry that I don't meditate enough.

I definitely don't exercise enough.

Eating well enough. We drink too much. Over the course of these conversations, she's begun to peel back the layers of challenges hindering her own well-being. She hopes for listeners of the podcast to do the same.

I feel like when people come up with podcasts, they feel like they need a reason and a description that makes them different. A podcast is a podcast. Talk about whatever the fuck you want. The fact that you need this mission statement that we know you're not going to do. It's going to end up you having Kris Jenner on. That's great. That's great. But I think that whenever somebody comes to the space, especially a little bit late, they feel they need to have a structure that is so different from anything that's out there. That's why they're late because they were coming up with this really unique idea. It's just a podcast. It's not that serious.

No. Two people can have the same mission. Five people can. A bunch of people can. You're all going to say different stuff, a different take on the matter.

By the way, every podcast has the same mission, to have interesting conversations. That's it.

Right. Keep you company.

We don't need an outline. We don't need a deck of the mission statement.

Especially not one so dreadful. Come on.

That's not what I would have expected. The thing about Chrissy Tegan is before she got canceled, but even still, she has a really loyal fan base of people who really her personality. Her personality is she makes fun of She's really real. And so this no negative. Why? Sometimes life is negative, and that's fine. Let's talk about it. It's funny. I actually don't think this mission statement really aligns with her personality and why people are drawn to her. They're drawn to her because she's like, Yeah, this supermodel husband is a billionaire. She She lives, but she's so real. She's out here talking about how she wears diapers postpartum. She really keeps it very real. I wish that was the statement because that's really why she's so successful.

Yeah, this podcast will probably fall under the wellness category where it's like, We don't want a wellness podcast from Chr. Tegan. She could have done something in comedy. She could have done something in parenting.

Yeah. Food? Yeah. Hosting.

I mean, hopefully it's not what she says it's going to be because this just really sounds really boring.

It does. Hopefully, she does an episode with John. She does an episode with her sister who everybody loves. She does an episode on cooking, the holiday one. She's very homemaker-y. This is such a weird angle. Her doing a podcast, she's perfect for it. She has a great personality. People love to hear her talk. Why she had to come up with this, fecoxed new image? Just do a podcast.

Why are you so ashamed? It's actually surprising that she's never done a podcast before. She's very podcasting.

I know. I think there was a really big chunk of time where she was a little She's so good for it. But now she's been humbled like the rest of us, and she goes where all former canceled people go to the podcasting space. We welcome you with open arms. I wish you the best of luck.

But actually, if this were an interview show, Armchair Expert, with her famous friends just having funny conversations that would sound more interesting than whatever this is.

Yeah, because really, if you're going to do conversations, interviews, which it sounds like she's going to do, none of these people are any better of interviewers than the rest. None of these people are formal journalists. It's really just about who you are and who you know and if people want to trust you. She can get Kim on. She's perfect for it. She's really well connected. People really, I think, seem to like her and trust her in the Hollywood space. I don't know why she didn't just lean into that.

No, she could have been female armchair expert.

What was the name of the podcast?

Self-cconscious. With self, like really big, and then conscience.

It's like self-conscious. It's a bad name. I feel like she has this big brand. Or no, conscious.

Not conscience.

You're saying it weird. She should have tied it into her brand, which is Cravings. Like, Cravings and Chat-Chatter. Cravings and Chit-Chat. Yeah, with something.

Chrissy's Cravings Chat-Chat.

Yeah. Thank you. We love alliteration.

Yeah.

We'll see. The thing is, the cream rises. She might end up on our list of celebrities who started podcasts and never finish them. Ashley Graham.

Yeah. Is she on our list? Let's just look. Ashley Graham? Yeah. She is on the official list. No, I think the list is like... That's not who comes to mind for me.

Jvn.

Jvn is done?

Yeah. Don't we always have this conversation?

Yeah. And he's canceled.

Oh, right. He should come back to the podcast.

We got so many people on this list. I didn't even know they had a podcast, let alone- Ellen Pompeo, right? Ellen Pompeo, yeah. Why is she on here?

She's on the list. I actually have this list memorized because it's so funny. Go the list.

Okay. Jay Cutler.

He had a podcast?

Yeah. Remember Sophia with an F went on? Emrata. To me, she's the list.

Oh, yeah. That's really emblematic of this big push and then nothing.

Archetypes, which stays on the list until Lemonada brings it back. Kim, Spotify podcast.

I'm sorry. I apologize to Jvn. He released an episode yesterday.

Oh, taking him off. I'm really sorry.

But he definitely went on break because he was on the list at one point where they were doing old reruns.

Oh, you know who we have to add? Anna Farris.

Yeah, but I feel like it's unfair because that list is failed podcast, in my opinion.

No, and podcasts are allowed to end.

She did it for years, and she was enormously successful.

I agree.

She doesn't go on the list.

I think we've already had this conversation and reached that same conclusion. Kim Spotify. Yeah, that's huge. Her true crime thing. Michelle Obama.

Spotify. A lot of these were the Spotify when they were throwing money at celebrities, and it was supposed to be huge.

Ashley Graham, as you've stated, Graham.

Yeah.

Anderson Cooper.

That's shocking.

Shocking that he did a podcast. You're on TV every day. Why do we need more? Why? Ellen Pompeo, as you said. Hysterical. Darkawashry and Olivia Washington.

Oh, my God. We had to. Listen, the call is coming from inside the house.

You had to. Then, Phineas and Claudia Salusky started a podcast in COVID, and they don't do it anymore.

That sounds dreadful. Oh, my God.

It's a classic I know. By the way, I feel like you guys did this last time, but I forgot to take out my list and add people to it. Sound off in the comments if there are people we're missing. I want to get this list robust.

Next up is Deer Toaster. It's one day late, but don't worry, next week, it'll be one day early. From here on out, we've discussed Tuesdays are Deer Toaster's days because Wednesdays will be Real Housewives of Beverly Hills days. Deer Toaster's is our weekly advice segment where Jackson and I hear from the girlies. We try to help them out. You can write in submissions to us two different ways. One, just send us an email, deerteosters@gmail. Com, or you can head over to our website, thetoastpodcast. Com. Scroll down. There's a little Deer Toaster submission box that goes straight to us. Totally anonymous. We'll help you out with whatever you're dealing with. Hey, Jackson turd. Long-time toaster. First time writing in. Love you lots. I'm in a pickle. About a year and a half ago, I became friends with my neighbor. Things were going Great. Normal. No issues. She then had some health issues, and our group of friends was right there for her through it all. Once she was better, she convinced me to apply to work with her. She works in Child Protective Services. Shortly after we began working together, things were going great, but she sent me a text out of the blue on a Sunday.

Today, saying that she thought I had autism. I was a bit shocked. I didn't love the vibe of being diagnosed by a friend when I didn't ask for it. I ignored it and just hoped that she would get the hint. But the next day at work, she doubled down. She asked me if I saw the text message, what my thoughts were, to which I said, I appreciate you as a friend, but that really isn't me. She then said that I was wrong and urge me to get testing done ASAP. I was put off by this, and I ghosted her and then dropped the friendship completely. It has been about six months. We recently began speaking again about work stuff, and I'm starting to worry that I rushed into a decision to drop a friend. Am I being too sensitive positive about this or was dropping her appropriate? By the way, I just want to say it sounds like she's the one with autism. Because people with autism are known for their directness, and they're saying things that are socially weird. So saying someone randomly that you barely know, that you think they have autism, that's something actually an autistic person would say.

Sorry.

Yeah. Also, I feel like she offended you. Fine to take space, but now you miss her friendship and you're moving on from it. And that's also healthy, too. Just because you drop someone, it can be temporary, and then you pick back up. If you miss her and you work with her and she's your neighbor, how can you really avoid It sounds like you want to forgive her.

It sounds like you're naturally coming back together, which is good.

I like that. I like that. Me too. Normalize that, too. You don't need to drop someone forever. Sometimes you just need to teach someone a lesson. Maybe you guys were getting a little too close. She thought she could say anything to you. You put some distance between it. Now get back to it. Get after it. I agree.

I wouldn't fight the natural urge that seems to be happening. Some people come into your life in waves, and that's fine. But if you're naturally swimming towards her for whatever reason, let it happen. If it comes up, honestly, just say it. It's crazy.

Yeah, and time heals all. Don't feel like you shouldn't forgive her. Forgiveness is a good thing. Even if she didn't say sorry, you can still forgive and move on.

Yeah. People are really just crazy.

That's what Deer Toaster teaches me.

People are crazy. The way people act is really... Actually, that's a good segue to the second Deer Toaster.

You can't control how they act. You can only control how you react.

Swirly's, My pea jump gave me the biggest ick of my life, and I need serious help. I am not an overtly physical person. I love affection for my husband, cuddling my babies, but unnecessary touch from others is not welcome.

I can relate. What is the ick?

Recently, we were at a family gathering at my in-laws. I told my husband I was going to start gathering the kids to go home, and I expected him to follow me. I was getting flustered, juggling the kids, wondering where he went. When I look up and I see my husband is getting a massage from his sister in the middle of the function. The massage continued while I stood there waiting with our tired kids. He even had the audacity to lay on the floor, request a lower back massage. I understand as his wife, I've been lacking and giving him massages. That's why for his birthday, I gifted him a nice massage, and I often encourage him to go to a professional. Once we left the event, I let him know how icky it was to me. He seemed annoyed, and every time I bring it up jokingly, he gets upset at me. I need to move on, but I fear this ick will haunt our marriage forever. Please humble me or help me accept this ick. By the way, you're so valid in your ick.

You're so valid. That is so crazy. I know- Sister? Sister. People in families give massages sometimes. Sometimes, Zack will rub his grandma's back. She's just sitting.

Of course, because he's a good grandson.

She's an old woman. When you said sister, no.

Yeah, Ben actually rubs his dad's back all the time. But his dad actually has a bad back, so it's really nice. No, it's nice.

Honestly, I want that. I will sign up for that one day. But the sister, and then he's laying on the floor. And then also, you forgot, the tired children may need to go home. It's not like you even said she's a professional chiropractor and she was adjusting him. Excuse me? No, I would never get over that. I would never let him live it down just to make sure he never does it again.

Eventually- There's so many elements of it that are weird. Socially, you're laying down in the middle of a party. Get up. You're a father. Second of all, your sister's touching you. That's disgusting. Freudian type shit. Three, you are literally leaving me hanging, getting the kids in their coats. They're screaming, they're tired, they're throwing food. Be an involved parent. Get the fuck up.

This isn't the Canyon Ranch. No. If he really... He needs you to massage him, you get him massages. His sister's massaging him. He should see a doctor because his body's not functioning properly. Nobody needs this many massages. You making it, putting it on, you're like, Maybe I don't give him enough massages. Jackie, I was just... Let me read this sentence. Even to give him one massage is more than enough.

Too many.

It's too many. One too many.

I understand as his wife, I've been lacking in giving him massages. That is not your job.

No, it's not.

Some people, Ben loves a massage. Maybe this guy is the same way. You getting him for a birthday and an anniversary, always giving him a gift card to a massage is amazing. That's seriously brilliant. There is literally no obligation on your part to rub this man's back.

Is he a professional athlete? What is he doing? If so, then get him to come to the house once a week.

A sports therapist. Yeah. No, and I don't know. If you're a professional athlete, you're bringing home the big bucks, all right, I'll rub your back. I don't have to work. I need to know more. But it just sounds like he's a big old baby, and I hate him. No. You're valid and you're ick. Seriously, never let him live this down, if only so that he knows. That type of physical touch with your sister is not appropriate.

No, it's so crazy. Even if he still thinks it's right, just to never do it again, to avoid your ire.

It feels like Melissa Gorgia wrote this in, and Theresa was rubbing Joe's back because they're those type of siblings who definitely touch.

That is so weird.

Okay, the husbands are really acting out. Okay, here's another one about a husband. I hate swirly swirly gum drops. I need to know your thoughts on this. My husband and I have been together for three years. We've been married just over a year. Since we've been together, he has been adamant that I cannot see his butt hole. I jokingly inquired about it a long time ago while we were dating, and he was very clear, no, that was a boundary for him, that I could not see it. Now that we're married and he's locked in forever, I thought maybe it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But no, he is still... He will not, quote, show hole, as the kids say. I'm not really interested in seeing this part of him, and I just make a joke about it occasionally, but now I'm genuinely curious. Is this normal? Please share your thoughts. Sincerely, a wife in the I love your show. It keeps me alive. Thanks. Now, I want to say something really quickly, because sometimes I jump to conclusions on Deer Toaster. Last week, a lot of people were mad at me when I said that it sounded like that girl's fiance had a gambling problem, when in reality, he's just from the south, and people take sports way seriously.

Okay, maybe I was off the mark on this one. You guys know I'm always jumping the gun, like your husband's gay. But it sounds like your husband might have a stretched out booty hole from being gay, like butt stuff. Maybe he didn't want you to see it.

Oh, my I'm taking the total opposite approach. That is a totally fair boundary. I disagree. Why do you want to see his butt hole?

Not want to, but things in life. I've seen Ben's butt hole. What time I to give him an enema? Right.

Things like that would come up. But you're not saying he wouldn't even let me give him an enema. But you just want to look at it for sport. I'm clenching just thinking about it.

No, I have a great idea. Okay, listen, we need to start poisoning this man with a modium. So that he needs an enema. Yeah, we need to give him a modium, like making breakfast every day for a week, and he won't go to the bathroom and say, Babe, I haven't gone to the bathroom in a week. And we say, Oh, well, do you want an enema? It's not a big deal. I'll just give it to you. And we'll see if even in a medical emergency, he won't show his butt hole, then something is off.

Does a gay person who takes it up the butt really have that much of a different-looking butt hole than someone who doesn't?

It depends, I think, how active you are, but I do think you could have a stretched-out booty hole. That's the thing.

That is the thing.

I'm pretty sure it is. Let me just ask.

Hold on. But I feel like if his booty was a little stretched out because he's gay, he could say, I make big duties. I don't think he's hiding anything. I don't think he's hiding anything except once one part of himself, the deepest inner corner of himself, to be private.

Is someone who bottoms a lot, possibly have a stretched out butthole?

I just want to say I've never disagreed with Claudia more. Of course, there's always anyone, your husband could be gay, but that is not at all what I think is going on here. I think this is a very fair-That's so funny.

Boundaries are so foreign to me. Oh my God. Because I walk around my house naked, so does Ben. Boundaries are so foreign that my first instinct was like, he's gay.

You can walk around your house naked and still not want to show someone the innards of your booty hole.

I asked, does someone who bottoms a lot possibly have a stretched out butt hole? Oh, for sure. Hot dog down a hallway vibes.

Wait, but what about the hole itself? Would it be visible to the naked eye? Yeah. No, he's talking about once you're inside.

It would be visible to the naked eye?

The booty hole looks different than a virgin booty hole.

If I looked at your butt hole, I would know that it's been stretched out.

Who'd you ask?

I don't want to say. I'll tell you after, but I don't want to put this person on blast. They usually close.

It's an elastic.

Interesting. So it just stretches.

Listen, not everyone has to show you every crevice of themselves. I understand why he doesn't want to bend over and spread them just because.

Yeah, okay. My thing is wrong.

I'm glad we got to the bottom of that. I'm wrong. One day in time, if you guys stay together, you will see his butt hole. There will be an enema. Maybe as a-Your time is coming. There might be a hemorrhage. He might need you to look at something. But just to look at it for shits and giggles, I understand why to him, that's like, I guess it is just weird that you live with this person, and there's a part of them you haven't seen. I think there should be a little mystery in everyone. Nah. That is so not weird.

Well, I don't know. It's like a man gets to see... If you're married to a man and you have kids, he sees you at your worst, at the goriest. He sees every part of you like, Bend over.

We need to be even. For sure. But if you said to your husband, I don't want you to watch, if that was for some reason how you felt, they wouldn't watch.

They would look still curious.

No, I feel like if you were really adamant about it, they would respect that.

Let's do one more because I do have a fourth, and it's pretty good. And we promised four. Hey, Jackson-Claude. I'll make this short. I'm dating a turtle a P-jum who's been a literal angel sent from above. Now, this is the perfect example of a running inside joke of toasterhood is that people will write and be like, My pea jam, and then they'll say the pea jam did something so not precious and not gem-like. I just want to say to this girl, You are not dating a P-jum, okay?

Start again.

I'm dating a total P-jum who's been a literal angel sent from above. Girl, you do not know the meaning of the word angel.

No. Also, people don't even talk that way about actual P-jums that they love.

No. You have been hoodwinked. However, the last month, I feel like he's been really distant. He recently shared with me how he would rank his priorities. One, it went himself. Two, his family. Three, Three, grad school. Four, the Arizona Cardinals. Five, his job. Six, a baseball team that he coaches. And seven, his friends and me. This isn't sitting right with me, but is it enough to end it? He said he doesn't see these priorities ever changing. He's really obsessed with baseball. But is this normal? No.

Well, no. There's so many issues here. First of all, if he's a P jump, heaven sent onto your lap, and he said one thing wrong one time about his list of priorities, then what are you talking about? He's an angel from heaven. But he's been distant. And he's so great that even though you're number seven, it feels like number one.

Right. But that's not what she's saying. It's not a perfect relationship because they've been experiencing this rough patch.

What I would say is, yeah, his priorities sound fucked up. But if you were to marry him, then you move up to family and you're not in the friend. Right now, you're girlfriend and friends. You're in the friend.

Right, so you would be two. You would be number two. It's crazy putting yourself as your number one And the baseball team that you...

There's craziness here. However, when you're someone's girlfriend, you grow in their hearts and you grow into things. So I think eventually you'd be family. But he just sounds like a piece of work.

He sounds like really self-involved and really immature. Not someone who's looking for a real meaningful, Earth-core shaking love.

I don't know how you would get from friend to family while he's prioritizing He's in grad school, his job, the Arizona Cardinals, and the Little League team that he coaches, not to mention himself.

Yeah, I think probably you being number 7. There's so many issues here, is you being number 7. You not even being number 7 by yourself because you're looped in with friends. Another big issue we're not talking about is himself being number one. That's really, really crazy.

I think with a man like this, it's really hard to get from seven to two.

I don't- Yeah. I think you'll be like, even if he marries you, you'll be like, fighting your whole life to be an important person in your husband's life.

Who the fuck wants that? You just want to be important. I want to know how old he is. I guess he's in grad school, so he's young, like 22. No.

I mean, some people go to grad school directly after college, but some people go years later. You could go when you're 30. It doesn't necessarily mean you're 22.

How does he have time to coach the little team, go to grad school and have a job?

Well, he's neglecting his girlfriend. That's how. I don't know. I would just sit back and think. If your friend came to you and said, My boyfriend put me on number.

But then it's also like, actions speak louder than words. He treats you like a Pjam heaven sent from above. But then he said something, but he treats you great. If he's what you said in the beginning, then what are we talking about?

By the way, do you feel like he's a Pjam? What do you feel more? He's a Pjam angel sent from heaven above, or do you feel more like number seven?

Right. And also, sometimes men say stupid stuff, and they don't realize how wrong it is until weeks later, maybe even years later, maybe years down the line, he would think back on That's the thing that he said. He'd say, I was so stupid. And he can grow out of that stupidity.

Oh, my God.

But you have to evaluate the rest of your relationship, because just as he said that thing one time, I don't think you have to write off what is otherwise a very good relationship.

If it is.

If it is. But you said it is.

Yeah. Oh my God, I'm starving. Can't wait for a big fat fatty lunch.

What's he going to have?

I'm not sure yet. It's It's raining, so I feel like I need to be extra fat.

Extra cozy.

Yeah. Extra patted. I'm asking up for winter. That's our show, you guys. As promised to Deer Toaster was banging. I'm so glad we waited, and it'll be on Tuesday next week. So we'll get into a good rhythm. Tomorrow's Friday. Great. Just great. Great.

Great. Great. Great.

Thank you so much for listening to the Toast & Millennial Morning Show. While we deliver the fast five stories, you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us a video of a thumbs up. We're It'll be on Tuesday next week, so we'll get into a good rhythm. Tomorrow's Friday. Great. Just great, great, great, great, great.