Transcript of The Sean Box: Monday, June 8th, 2026

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Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Monday. I'm back in New York City, and let me tell you, the city is alive. Ooh, it's alive. People in the streets, like, it's literally, um, you know that scene in 500 Days of Summer when he finally gets laid and he leaves the house and there's like a musical going on outside? There's like a flash mob, the birds are chirping. That's what it is. First of all, it's just like gorgeous outside. Every single person is like in an amazing mood. There's a real like familial sort of energy, like everybody's high-fiving, everybody's wearing their merch, names, literally like fists pounding, you know. You see businessmen, uh, non-businessmen, like businessmen.

It's electric. That's so beautiful.

It really is. I'm like getting really swept up in it.

Do you feel like a part of something major? Because you are.

Yeah.

And you know, I know you had to go back for like other things, but you actually like had to be there for this moment.

Of course. No, Ben was— it was not an option to stay in Florida one minute longer.

No, no, you have to be there and like experience the camaraderie in the community.

The Knicks won on Friday night, and then tonight is game 3, so they're up 2-0. You have to— it's the first one to 4.

Yes.

The next, the next 2 games are at home, so like, I don't see how the Knicks don't sweep Knicks in 4. Like, I don't know how they lose 2 games in a row at home. Like, they're obviously winning tonight. Like, there's so much excitement.

Yeah, but sometimes, like, when you have everything at your back, like, that's when it goes wrong. But also, wouldn't it be fun if they don't win in 4? They win still the series, but there's more games. Like, and this feeling goes longer.

Like, yes, but then they win in Kansas— where's the game? San Antonio, which is like not so the vibe.

Um, yeah, that, that's neat. And they should win here. It behooves them to win here.

And they need to win here because not only are they like prized to win, but they're also currently on track to match the, the NBA record. So they have not won— they have not lost a game in, I think, maybe 12. This is their 12th win in a row in the playoffs. The last time that happened, and the only other time it happened, was 2017 with the Golden State Warriors. So if they win the next 2, they will match the record for like 14 games in a row. So it's kind of like, it's just that they sort of like have to, they really have no choice.

For Ben Sturry and for her Sturry.

And for Ben Sturry. Like there's no option other than winning these next 2 games.

How is Ben Sturry?

My husband is like living in a dream. He has never been in a better mood. He's a delight to be around. Like, it's affecting all, like, business, social, like every— he's firing on all cylinders. He's literally never ever been happier. And you know what? It's infectious. Like, I'm into it. Like, let's fucking go. I'm watching like edits on TikTok, like Hamilton, Alexander Hamilton. Like, is Jalen Brunson reincarnated? Like, I'm so in it.

I see that everything I do is for the Knicks.

Like, I just— people in New York are just— we're not okay. And I say we, yeah, I'm in it.

It's, it's very exciting. And I feel like other cities, they get this a lot, and maybe they've taken it for granted. And they could— there's a lot of different sports where you could get it. I guess like the New York always has like the Yankees, and the Yankees like stay winning, but it's different.

No, it's not. Like, this is so different.

Yeah, no, but it's, it's very, very cool to see.

Yeah, very cool. And like, we were out and about all weekend, like everyone— first of all, we only dressed Foo in like his Knicks merch, and all the kids, everyone at the park Everything is NYX.

Like, it's just NYX mania.

It's NYX mania. It's so much fun. Like, this is the most fun I've ever had. Um, it's just beautiful. I'm really happy for my husband.

I'm happy for him too.

Yeah, this is huge.

Major. Do I look different today?

No.

Okay. I am different.

Inside or outside?

Outside. What? I used the 5-step POV Beauty. Did you film it for Patreon?

Method?

I did film it. Not for Patreon, for, for, um, Reels. Reels, like a little reel. Um, I used all 5 steps under my—

how is your makeup sitting?

You know what, I had a ball. I had a ball with these products. Like when I finished the fifth step, I didn't even wanna put makeup on. My skin actually felt like a glazed donut. Really? Yeah. And it's like, there definitely is like, it doesn't feel like skincare. Like you feel ready for something.

Right, right.

It feels almost like sticky and it's like stick to me makeup. Yep. But like, I was just like a radiant glowing ball.

By the way, you have to at the like end of the day before you take your makeup off, show everyone what your makeup looks like. I will. Like with a back camera flash.

But also yesterday I wore just the primer because I was like really curious. They were just sitting there and I just wore skin makeup yesterday like to, to go, um, have a day. And I came home, I took my makeup off, I took my shower, whatever. Then I used my toning pads, and I had so much makeup on the toning pad still. Like, the makeup didn't come off because it was so stuck on.

Love that.

So it does what it says it's gonna do.

That's beautiful.

Yeah, it was a very fun way to start my week.

We have so much to do today. Love Island Friday and Sunday nights, we have 2 episodes to recap. We're both fully caught up. That's also fun. Like, I'm a part of that too. I'm just like a part of a lot of group things. And you know, tonight my 2 group things are sort of conflicting with one another. This is actually second time where the NBA Finals and Love Island are on at the same time. Like, it's not even a question.

The finals, obviously. And then are you gonna watch Love Island in time for tomorrow's show?

I don't know, the games start at 8:30, which means they actually start at 8:45. Like, they're ending so late. Like, I'm probably— don't look for me tomorrow for a Love Island recap. And I feel like the episode after a recoupling is like never that crazy.

For me, last night was the recoupling.

Um, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

So, oh, the episode after a recoupling is always like sort of low-key. I can still be getting 3 new bombshells. I know we're getting 3 new bombshells, but like, unfortunately, no, no, it is what it is.

I'm not like other girls. I'm literally Bea. Like, I have to watch sports.

No, I, um, it would be nice like to get my night back, you know? It's like, oh, so then I don't have to watch if Claudia's not watching. But the thing is, like, if I don't watch it tonight, like, that means I have to watch 2 the next night, like, which I actually physically can't do. I know. So I have to stay on top of the schedule, because if I fall back, I am never catching up.

Yeah.

So I'm— I guess I'm still going to watch tonight, because otherwise it's over for me if I, if I lose my spot.

Um, yeah, you can't get like too far behind.

Yeah.

And I, I, I hear you and I empathize with you, but like, I, I kind of have no choice.

No, no, I— we all have to do what's right. I'm not saying watch it, I'm just saying I still have to watch it, otherwise I'm going to be watching 3 hours of Love Island the next night. I don't have I don't have that sort of time.

Time on your hands. No, I get it, I get it.

So like, we got a late try being a TV recapper for a day.

Try it. Yeah, so I didn't get a chance to watch Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Like, the— like, being an avid sports fan, like, and I'm sure most of you girl listeners don't understand this because you're not like me, um, but like, it's exhausting. It's a full-time commitment being like such a big fan of sports.

I know, but like, you do it for the love of sports. You couldn't like stop if you tried.

Exactly, exactly. Yeah. Um, let me tell you what I did this weekend. Tell me. I manage— I know everyone's like kind of clamoring to get Nick's tickets. I was able to get tickets to the Gazillion Bubbles show. What a fucking— it was fucking insane. Now, I'd actually been to the Gazillion Bubbles show with Foo when he was in utero. This time he was outero. Oh my God, it was It was literally insane. Like, the art and the culture in this town is just— it's unmatched. The gazillion bubble show was so fucking sick. I love bubbles. Like, I think we went for me.

They're very exciting.

Bubbles are magic. Like, and then of course I bought like at the merch stand like a bubble gun, and I was in the park yesterday like doing bubbles. Like, when I tell you we went for me, bubbles are the most magical thing like on the planet. Mhm. Like bubbles is kind of life. And Knicks, of course.

That's the theme of your weekend. So did Ruby like the show, or—

oh yeah, he was fine. No, he did, he really liked it. But like, I was sad. You were loving it. It's like, it's— they told the story, you know, it was a little bit different than the last time we were there. They told the story, it's like a family-owned show, and like each like sibling— the, the— because we saw it with the guy Danny.

Yeah, it was a girl.

No, it was a girl. I think it was Danny's sister. And guess what? She was wearing Giovanni. I recognized, I clocked that jumpsuit.

Also, is that Danny's Denny, right?

I think it was Danny.

I think his name is Denny.

Okay, well, I saw his sister. Um, just as magical, just as brilliant, just as, just as amazing.

They've all got the talent, the bubble bug.

1,000%. Um, and then I also went to the park, just like, you know, local things. Played mahjong, obviously. Actually played mahjong at night, which is my least favorite thing to do, but like my New York friends, like It's hard to get a game going during the day. Like, they like to play after work time.

Wait, I thought you were having a game every day.

I do, I do. But like, it's hard, like, getting that fourth, it's hard to accrue all four.

Oh, okay.

I played and I was just like, I got the sense like nobody wanted to play with me anymore. I won about, I won 5 times, like, out of 8 games, and one of them was a wall game. So it's like, I'm kind of becoming too good where I feel like I'm gonna stop being invited places.

Or you have to like find better people to play with.

No, no. I play with a very— I run in a fabulous circle of mahjong, like very competitive group.

No, but like if you found the best person in every— like it, I think maybe you need like another level of game.

You know where I think you and I would personally thrive? Cuz like we're obviously part of the new generation of mahjongers, but especially in the Jewish community, everyone's moms play. I think we need to start playing with the moms.

Like, yeah, and they've been playing forever.

They play with money too, so they're like a, like much more competitive. And I've decided, yeah, I've decided I don't want to play, um, with money because I hate No interest in playing with money. I mean, I have some interest, but I just know myself. Like when I lose, I take it— like Ben can tell the second I walk in the door whether I lost or I won, cuz like it affects my mood. I take it so personally. And then let's add losing money on top of it. Um, no.

And it's like not enough money to win that like makes the, the losses less painful. And I just think it would take the fun out of it, honest. Like I, I really do.

I agree.

Yeah, I, I am not interested. In that.

Me neither. But what I am interested in is just lighting the house down boots on this episode. What are the stories like? Where are we doing the TV recap?

Like, tell me at the end, because like not everyone watches Love Island, um, and it's not like one where we're like bursting at the— you know, sometimes like we're bursting, and we can do the TV recap at the end, and then the stories are, you know, the happenings of the weekend, really.

Tony Awards? No. Oh, Whitney Lovett was kind of like You know, she was on Broadway, of course, but something about like Chicago the musical is like a little— it's Broadway. No, it's not Broadway, it's just like very mainstream. It's like a show that also goes on tour.

Like, it's not like high art, it's— right.

And so when you think of the Tonys, you think of like really like, you know, Lea Michele, um, Rachel Zegler, like the real belles of the ball. But let me tell you, like, people whose names we don't know, right? When I tell you, like, I watched a bunch of clips, like Whitney was very much—

she's the toast of the town.

Her and the toast of the town.

She was in, in a performance like with Queen Latifah, like a bunch of Broadway legends.

The, the community is very much welcoming her. You know, I think like in some like industries, like the new girl from reality TV who's an influencer, like everyone from Utah who's trying to make it in New York, they would very much look down upon her. But I feel as though like they've welcomed her with open arms. She literally performed with Pink.

Yeah, that's crazy.

And Darren Criss.

It's crazy that she's really the toast of the town. I was saying that like, it's crazy also that like coming from where she came from, like as an influencer, like Mormon wife, that Broadway is like welcome.

It's the opposite.

She is the diamond of the season.

Yeah. And I didn't know if she was a diamond of the season to just the fans or if like the industry like had welcomed her, and they definitely have.

Yeah, they definitely have. Um, no, but we'll be discussing other happenings of the weekend if we may. There's a lot.

There's—

I mean, oh my God, I have to tell the group something so sad happened to me this weekend. Like, actually, like, it's very upsetting. You're not going to understand how upsetting it, it was. My starter, my sourdough starter, it was in a glass mason jar. It fell on the floor. Oh. And it broke.

And I get it.

I didn't— I don't have any discard in the fridge. Like, that's the end of my starter.

Okay, but isn't Olivia's starter a cousin of yours?

It is. Olivia's starter is a descendant of my starter, and I will be taking some of her starter, but like I just know like how I—

is that the same starter from like when you started your journey?

When I started my starter, yes. And wow, all both of them are descendants of Ballerina Farms Willa sourdough. But like, you know, I've like been feeding mine consistently every day for 2 years. Like, I know she does hers too, but it's like I knew what mine was. And now of course I'm taking someone else's starter. Your starter's not starting on my sourdough.

It's kind of akin to like losing a pet, honestly.

It was It was so sad. 2 years.

Was there anyone you could have blamed? Like, did Zach leave the cabinet door in a weird way, or was it your fault?

A little bit of everyone's fault. It was my fault because I took it out and I left it on the counter because I was like doing the dishes, but I was going to start a loaf right after. And in the time that I was doing the dishes, like, one of the children knocked it over. And but like, there shouldn't have been a glass jar in their reach.

So what— where'd you leave it?

Like on the peninsula in my kitchen, like across from the You know, sink. Yeah. Isn't that a good word for what that is? A peninsula. It juts out, it connects to the rest of my kitchen, but it's not an island.

Oh, I was thinking of the island.

No, that's an island, but a peninsula is something that's connected to land.

Oh, I see. So the thing that's connected still to the kitchen sink, the, like the L, the L shape.

The L. Yeah. That's called a peninsula.

I just, I really wouldn't blame yourself. It's like a very normal place to leave stuff.

Like, yeah, no. And it was like literally for 5 minutes while I finished putting the dishes away. It just, it was a tragic accident. And it was so upsetting, but I'm gonna get Olivia's. I'm gonna, I'm gonna come back.

But like, you're taking it surprisingly well.

What's— what a choice do I have?

Well, you do need to kind of figure it out because we do rely on you over the summer to create for the whole family. I'll get some of her starter.

I'll get some of— and it's like, it's crazy. I take my starter to the Hamptons. Like, I've, you know, it's been so many places.

It's a well-traveled—

it couldn't survive my peninsula on a Sunday morning.

Um, I know you also gave it to Rebecca.

I was thinking that too, cuz she doesn't sourdough that often. When she does, she like posts it and her starter grows so much. And it's like a, it's a very much a descendant of mine as well. So I was thinking I could take hers when I come to New York, but I really could take Olivia's. I don't know why I'm like, I quizzed her last night. I'm like, how do you treat your starter? When do you feed it?

What do you do? Right. No, it's very personal.

Yeah.

It's like trading children, honestly.

Also, sourdough mamas will get this, and you, Ben did it too. When you feed your starter, I always put it in a new jar every single time I feed it. Like, But some people just dump some of their old out and then feed it in their existing current. Yeah, I don't love that.

Does Olivia do that?

She says she does, but that— well, she says that she does, but she also renews it as well. I don't really have choices here, so yeah, right. I'm lucky to get her. Like, I literally— I'm so blessed that I have someone down the street with a Descendant.

And you could just like pick some of the starter off the floor and like throw it in the jar.

Well, I thought about it, but like there's glass particles. Like, yeah, that's so unsafe.

Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree.

It was— yeah, it was really bad.

I'm really sorry that you're going through that.

Thank you. I'm, I'm just going to pick myself up and dust myself off.

We're so matching today. We didn't even notice. Like, okay. Oh, by the way, I got creamy—

influenced by Jax and Jemmy.

And Jemmy, I got ballet flats you've been wearing. They were so cozy.

I've moved on to these, um, crochet Mary Janes from Rothy's.

I love just like a sensible shoe these days.

I love a sensible shoe. I like— I don't know if I'm ever going to wear high heels. Ever again. I was, I was thinking about high heels the other day because I saw like someone wearing high heels in the middle of the day, and I was like, why?

Why? Yeah, I had a similar thought when I was at the mall in Florida. I saw a girl wearing biker shorts and heels, and I thought maybe she was doing either like a form of exercise because it is like a leg workout, or she was trying to break them in for like a big event that night because it was such a crazy outfit, like a sports bra, biker shorts, and a pair of stilettos. Like, insane. Um, and I also got to thinking But you know, when I was pregnant, my sister-in-law got married, my machatzonim sister, and I obviously needed like a pair of heels, but I was literally almost 9 months pregnant. So I bought like a very expensive, well-made pair of kitten heels. When I say kitten, I mean genuine kitten. It's literally a ballet flat with like a little something on the heel. And you know what? I love it. They're like a slingback.

That's my idea of a wild time.

Because that way you still get, like, I, I don't even need the height, cuz like obviously I'm short, I'm not fooling anyone. I don't need the height of a heel. I need like the sort of pointy, elegant toe, like peeking out of a dress or a pair of slacks. And a kitten heel is grossly underrated.

I exclusively wear kitten heels. I think the only time I'll ever wear like a heel again is, you know, a wedding or a black tie affair. But I am done. I'm— what are we doing, ladies?

I agree, I'm done.

Half the time when you're wearing heels, like, it doesn't look good.

Wow, okay, harsh words.

You know what I mean?

No, who are you talking about?

Like, just like, there's a time and a place.

I agree.

So the other half of the time, it's just not the vibe. You're killing yourself for what?

Well, that's the other thing, like, you're like immobile.

You like can barely walk.

Joy is important and like comfort and peace and love. Like those things I think matter more sometimes than like stunting.

Yeah. Yeah.

But maybe it's just reflective of the era that we're in and like maybe there was a time in my life where I cared more about like looking the absolute best snatch tallest that I possibly could. Oh, I'm not having fun. Oh, I can't get up. It doesn't matter. I look amazing.

Yeah.

But now that's obviously not the mindset that I subscribe to.

No, definitely. Like that's my mindset right now. I wonder if like it will change one day. It probably will. But, and there are certain looks that like you absolutely have to wear a heel for, like, like a pencil dress, you know.

Of course. No, of course, you know. But pencil skirt, I don't know, I was really just thinking about it.

Like, I'm done, done. It's a good feeling, very feminist of us. It's very liberating, you know, because a man invented the high heel.

Yeah, right. And it's like, this is our version of like not shaving our armpits, you know.

Yeah, we're like, no, but like, that's disgusting. We're not wearing— yeah.

She never— like having, having our nipples out. No, we'll just like flats and sneakers until I die.

Kitten heels.

Kitten heels. Like get yourself a really good pair of kitten heels. It's one of the best things I've done for myself.

Yeah, I have a nice little, um, collection.

Collection. Yeah, I got to get another. I have this silver pair, like they've saved my life on multiple occasions. Gianvito Rossi. No, no, what's the other one?

Gianvito Oh, Gianbattista Valli.

Gianbattista. I believe they're Gianbattista. No, they're Gianvito Rossi.

They're Gianvito Rossi.

No, I got them at Bergdorf's. Like, I was panicked before my sister-in-law's wedding, being like, how? Like, I can't wear heels, I'm literally immobile. And I didn't take them off during the wedding. Like, I was cozy. I wasn't that girl running around without shoes on, like Get yourself a luxury, well-made pair of kitten heels. Go to The RealReal. Like, let me tell you, it was one of the best things I did for myself. Yeah.

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Our first story, happenings of the weekend. We had the Monaco Grand Prix. The stars were out in Monaco for the Grand Prix. Now, headline news was that Kim went with her sister Khloe to support her man's Lewis Hamilton. And you know what, I'm paying attention.

Oh really?

I'm not. I'm paying attention to the outfits.

I'm on the Aloe yacht, like that's where my ass is. Um, that's all I care about. That's what I was following.

To Alex, Jake, and Stassi baby. Yep, they were a baby.

It was like a little bit confusing, and I don't really understand how like Aloe justifies this enormous expense when like It took me a while to figure out that these three were on an Alo brand trip. Like, it was not very Alo forward, right?

And I don't know that I saw a piece of Alo merchandise.

No, I saw the logo a couple of times, like on the boat and like on a towel.

Well, I guess they also have been like working out on the boat.

Oh, I, I think I did see maybe Jake Shane on a cold plunge.

Yeah, yeah.

All that to say, like, that's where Brett and Trips like kind of confused me. Um, I don't know like how that really— I guess it really did like differentiate Alo is like from all the other brands, like who do different— this was like a very elite brand trip. Yeah. In terms of its location, the boat, the talent on board. But I— it wasn't very product forward.

No, no. But look how many times have we said Alo since.

It's true. And like, oh, I'm going to Manicouagan Grand Prix. Like I'd literally rather be on that boat than anywhere else. Like, you know, they actually had fun.

Yeah. For who else was on it?

Just 3 of them. I saw other people whose names and usernames like meant nothing to me. I, I didn't recognize. Um, but that doesn't mean that they're not special and unique in their own way.

Yes, of course, very beautiful. Um, but no, Kim and Khloé like went out and very fun for like Khloé sister times.

Yeah, love to see Khloé like leaving the gates. We know that like that's not something she does a lot and it gives her a lot of anxiety.

Yeah, also Kim is a WAG, which I feel like we hadn't seen her in her WAG era until this. Like she's there being the supportive partner, she's wearing the looks, you know, she's obviously taking the fashion seriously.

She like wore something— she's like filming his ceremony even though I don't think he came in first place.

Oh, but He was up on the stage.

Yeah, because like the podium is like first, second, and third place, and it looked like he was on the left, which is giving second.

Okay, but still, like the podium. Of course, of course. And he like gave a little—

he blew a kiss to his lady, and she's like filming horizontally, perhaps filming for Patreon.

Yeah, for sure. It was giving like very Kylie and Timothée. It's so funny how Kylie feels like a NYX wag when her husband is not a player, he's just a fan.

No, no, her husband is a wag. She's like her— like, he is a WAG of the Knicks and she's just like there.

Yes. No, but it's like when you think of— like, I keep seeing all these like group photos of the WAGs, I'm like, where's Kylie? Like, just the way that they engage with the team, it feels like she's a WAG, but she's obviously not.

I hope Khloé met someone. Like, I don't know what Khloé's relationship status is, and I feel like she keeps it like very tight to the vest, but as far as I know, she like hasn't dated or had sex in years. That's what she said on Keeping Up, or whatever the show is called. Um, and I don't know that like I want her to be dating an athlete, but like there's lots of eligible people who fly to the south of France or wherever the hell this is for this event. Lots of businessmen, lots of wealthy individuals, you know, investment bankers, things of that nature. Businessman.

But it's like, she didn't meet someone at the Bezos wedding. Like, where is it gonna happen?

Or the Ambani wedding. Yeah, she gets to go everywhere.

Yeah, with all the eligibles. You know, Scooter and Sydney met. Like, you couldn't meet—

is that where they met? At Jeff Bezos' wedding?

Based on what we know, yeah. That was like the first time they were seen together. They were like in a group of like random friends to go shopping like—

yes, yes, yes!

So I just feel like she's there but is she really there? Is she really being present?

Yeah, she's physically there emotionally. I feel like she's probably back in Hidden Hills.

Yeah, and she's like on FaceTime with her daughter, you know what I mean? She is who she is, like leave her alone if she's happy.

You know who like kind of feels like a great guy for her? Uh Someone who's recently gotten dumped. I don't know, someone who's recently gotten dumped from the villa. Sean, devoted father. Sean, law enforcement officer.

Like, I can't open up the Sean box right now because I won't be able to go back, okay?

And like, the Sean box is like firmly like in the files next to the Jaylen box.

I cannot open the Sean box right now unless— if you want the show to go on, it's only story number one.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm putting the Sean box over here.

Okay, um, tape it up.

Monaco Grand Prix. And it's funny because the Monaco Grand Prix was same weekend as Belmont Stakes again, just like the Derby and F1 were the same weekend last time.

I also feel like I wasn't closely following this event. It felt very out of reach. Like, I don't really understand what Formula 1 is. I don't 100% know where Monaco is on a map. Like, this whole thing felt like so 1% to me, to the point where like I actually just like I couldn't I, I couldn't really follow it cuz I wasn't even sure what I was following.

Yeah, it's hard enough to follow like the one in Miami.

Yeah, and it was like a driving race but everybody watched from their boats. Like, it was seriously so Hunger Games. Like, I don't even know what the hell these people are doing.

It's like fancy NASCAR, like Italian NASCAR.

It's definitely European driving.

It's European NASCAR but they compete in Miami sometimes, once a year.

Yeah, like Honestly, I'm not even— oh, you know the World Cup is in New York?

I think I did know that.

And I had no idea. It's at MetLife Stadium, and somebody just like offered me tickets to a match, and I was like, no thanks, I don't need to go see France versus Senegal. And then I found out it's like the most important match. Like, I was like— I thought when I saw the email, I was like, oh my God, yeah, of course, I'd love to go see like America. Like, I'd root for my team.

Yeah.

And they were like, it's the 2 o'clock France versus Senegal match. And I'm like, oh— I was like, I'm good, thanks. And then I was telling like one of Ben's friends, like, no, that's like a sick match.

That's so many. And I'm sure the America match is not sick.

Yeah. Like we stink at soccer, but like I wouldn't go for America. Like it's in America. It's exciting. Yeah.

Um, when does it start?

I have no idea, but that was like how I even found out that it was happening right next to the American Dream Mall.

Well, maybe you can make a day of it. Yeah. Well, the place looks great. Um, can't say well without saying that. I know. So like cute, um, cuteness, cuteness. Yeah, cuteness in Monaco. And like, you know, French Riviera summer is starting. I feel like this was like the, the opening, the cutting of the ribbon for French summer.

Your friend who doesn't have a job is in Europe and you're going to spend the next couple of weeks wondering how she paid for it. Like, that time starts now.

Yeah, so clock in, fam. Our next story is something else that happened this weekend that has reached me. And now I can officially say that Garrett Graham has reached me because the actor Belmont Camelli, it was a big weekend for the Belmont.

Yeah, his name is Phil. Phil? Yeah.

But why am I reading Belmont Camelli?

No, like that's his name, but like kind of like his birth name, like his name is Phil.

Is he Garrett Graham?

I just spouted that out.

Is he Garrett Graham?

Yeah, Garrett Graham, the actor Belmont, his name is Phil.

You're gonna have to explain.

Am I not speaking English? His name is Phil. Like, you know how celebrities change their names?

Like, so why is India today calling him Belmont Cameli?

That's like, that's his stage name. Like, like Lady Gaga. Like, his name is Phil.

Oh, like his— the name he doesn't want us to know.

Like how, um, Emma Stone is Emily.

Yeah. Or what's the guy, Tucker Somber? The other one.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, Role Model.

Role Model. They're the same person.

Yeah, his name is Philip Belmont Camelli.

Okay, okay, but like, let him have his— I just feel like, let him have his cute stage name.

Stop. No, I'm— I've turned on him like 100%.

Okay, wait, let me just read the story. Because actor Philip Belmont Camelli, um, brought his Garret Graham moves to the Kid LAROI concert, and fans are—

did he though? No, they're not. Like, we are not losing it.

We're actually like— I have seen this video so many times on my feed.

There's two videos.

The people are flipping for this video. And now, the first time I saw the video, I actually saw like one of my mom friends posted it. That's why I saw it. And I was like, I had no idea what I was watching. I was like, is that Justin Bieber? I was like, maybe her husband like works with Justin Bieber or something. And I just moved on. I was like, she obviously was just like supporting her husband. And then I kept seeing it with like Garrett Graham, Wicked Witch, and I was like, oh, this is like—

Karen Reed.

Oh, Karen Reed.

Benson Moon.

And Wes Wilson. And, um— And like, and, and it's Kid Laroi, who does look like Justin Bieber. And he had this like viral moment like dancing at the Kid Laroi. And does he dance in Off Campus?

Yes. Okay, so the thing at Off Campus is like, music is like a huge part of it. She's a music major. They like bond over music and they use like real music. Um, like they talk about like real artists. Like it's a cute little thing and he dances a little bit and like every time he dances it's like so cute. And he's obviously like a good dancer. Like, and I feel like he's seen the fan edits that like people like when he dances. And I just, I really don't like this. And I was actually arguing with Tinks in the DMs cuz she was like, no, this—

I saw Tinks had like a firm take in the opposite direction.

Yeah. And so I literally DM'd her. I'm like, we've, like, I've never disagreed with her so much. She was like, this is just like him being like, we should be encouraging people to be like fun and free and dance. And it's like, yes, I actually agree with her philosophy on that, but I don't see that as this. Like you don't see, you don't see videos.

You don't feel like he was dancing like nobody's watching. Like you actually felt like he was dancing. He was dancing. Cuz everybody's watching.

Well, because TikTok was watching, he was ready. He's like, oh, here's my next edit. So there's two videos, first of all, and both are like, one's worse than the next. The first is like at the actual concert. He's like with the Kid Laroi, like dancing, pulling up his shirt, showing his abs, like, ek ek ek ek ek ek. Then there's a second where they like made a TikTok to like the song that was playing at the concert, and he's like doing this like cringy ass dance move. It might be like a dance move from the music video. I'm not sure. I don't know the reference. Okay. But I just don't like it. And it's giving like You know, it's nice when people like don't know how good-looking they are. Mm-hmm. And now he's— I mean, he has no choice. Like, he's just had a front row seat to his own close-up, and everyone's obsessed, and everyone like, they love his dancing, they love his smile, they love his abs. So he did all of it like in 3 videos, and it was just— I'm sorry, I thought it was corny. I thought it was cringy.

That's not how my Garrett Graham would act. Like, Garrett would never— this is Phil. Oh, and then I found out his name was Phil, and I was like, okay, you're doing a lot for like somebody named Phil. I just, I don't like it. I don't like it. And maybe this is my brain's way of coping, like, you know, rejecting him before he can reject me, cuz like the obsession is real. But I just— it felt incongruous with Garrett. It was like a little too much, and it was very, hey, look at me. I didn't like it.

Do you want to know my objective thoughts as someone who has no idea what's going on here and who Garrett—

I know you're going to love it—

and who Garrett is and who Belmont Phil is? And like, I just saw this video like as if I was an alien who came down from Yes, you are.

And you are our in-house alien.

I am the in-house alien. I thought it was like really cool.

Cool.

I thought it was cool. I was like, yeah, this is a cool— I understood why, like, if people liked him to begin with, how then watching this video, like, there's a lot of like him lifting his shirt. There was a lot. I didn't see— I, I just saw the moves. I wasn't like breaking down each move. Okay, now he lifts his shirt, now he's— I just saw the whole thing flow together, and there was flow and there was rizz, and I was like, oh, this guy's got charisma.

And this is also someone like in a long-term relationship. Like, imagine if this was Ben acting like that. Like, I'm sorry, you have to act like a little bit respectful when you have— I'm just like, I'm just becoming a hater.

Sorry. It's just so funny, right when you turn on Garrett, I'm ready to defend him. And I just want to say about Off Campus, people are like, why does Jackie hate Off Campus? The, the point is, I don't know Off Campus. I don't hate Off Campus. I, I don't know what's in there. And I, I actually think if I watch it, I would like it based on like my interests.

The more I think about it, I actually also think you would like it.

It's not that I hate Off Campus. I don't even know anything about it to hate it. My issue was more so with the culture that it's like, oh, you didn't watch this weekend, then you have no idea. And then next weekend it's something else and else and else. And it's like, well, we're just supposed to all just like binge watch shows every single weekend or else you don't know what's going on. And like the last show that you watched is irrelevant now. Like it's just too much content. And like I hate that part of the culture.

Oh yeah, I agree. But you're only punishing yourself by like not watching this particular show because I actually now think you would like it.

I'm not not watching it because I, I'm boycotting it or something. Like, I physically can't watch it. I, I'm watching Love Island every night.

Yeah, it's true. It's true.

I, I can't watch it.

You would've had to have watched it before Love Island.

Yeah. I can't watch Off Campus right now. And if I had the time, I think I would watch it. I think I would like it. It's more so just like this constant, like, oh, this is the new thing. Yeah. Like, can't something sustain, you know?

No.

Like, where will Garrett Graham be in 5 years? I worry. I worry about that.

Well, hopefully he'll be on the Bruins.

I think they call this flash in the pan. Not Garrick Graham, Belmont. Where will Belmont—

oh well, this is always interesting when like a young show pops off like this, the potential that it has for the stars. A lot of times, you know, it has the Riverdale effect where like after season 2 of Riverdale, nobody even watched the show. But a lot of those— Cami Mendes, a lot of them, Cole Sprouse— are sort of big. I would say they, they have careers now, like outside of it. Sometimes one of these flash-in-the-pan, big-time YA shows, like you never see or hear from these people ever again. So I will be curious to see what happens with all the breakout stars.

Yeah.

Of which there are probably 4 or 5.

So you are not into Belmont.

I didn't like what I saw at the Kim LoRae concert, no. And it's just like a little too on the nose. It's not mysterious, it's like, oh, you guys like when I dance and you like my abs, let me pull up my shirt and shake my hips. It's like, okay, that's for girls.

Stop. I don't know all the backstory. I thought he had nice moves. People were having fun.

He does— he has nice moves.

People looked cool.

It was cool. They looked cool.

I thought it was cool. And I do like—

I don't know if I'm in the minority though with—

I like what Pink said, like, let's applaud, embrace dancing in public, showing off your moves.

I agree with that. I agree with that. But that's to me like not what he was doing. He was like performing. Like, I understand I don't feel like he was letting his hair down. I love what she said and I agree.

Literally, he's at the camera that's right there. It's not like he was—

and he's like lifting up his shirt and like eye-fucking the lens. Like, I like what she said and I agree. As a culture, like, we don't like embrace this, especially with men. Like, yeah, have fun, dance, whatever, who cares? But this was not giving like Drew Barrymore in The Rain. It wasn't giving carefree. Like, I don't care what anyone thinks. It's giving I'm performing for what everybody thinks.

What about if this inspires other men, even though his intentions maybe weren't pure for you? But what if it inspires other people to get out there and dance?

Well, if that is the rip current, you know, the effect, I'll be okay with it. But this is only affecting women. That's what I'm saying. Like, we're just— we're not changing any hearts or minds of young men.

Understood.

This is a women's issue.

Understood. Our next story: Ariana Grande started her tour this weekend, Eternal Sunshine. She, um, is on tour. I, I sort of missed that. I didn't know that that was happening.

Um, I didn't actually— had no idea this was happening.

I thought last I heard from her regarding this, she doesn't like touring, she's, you know, going to Broadway, she's an actress. Okay, wait, I'm going to come back to music soon. And then she put out a song last week, and which I actually really like that song, it's all over my TikTok. Now there's a tour, um, with tickets purchased and everything, and it's, it's on, and it's kicked off in Oakland, California.

Yeah. Can I ask a question? Just like, for the— are we commenting on women's bodies or not?

Yeah, yeah, no, we're talking about this holistically. Yes, we are.

Because I feel really conflicted when people talk about Ariana Grande, because like, to me, I'm the type of person like, well, let's state the obvious, like, she looks so sick. Like, she looks really, really unhealthy and very scary. Um, it's gonna be such a hot take, like, I don't know if the world's ready for it. But I also feel like if we're doing that it has to apply. Like, if we're gonna be like, we're intervening because this is a health issue, I feel like the movement of like women's bodies— like, I don't know how to say this in a way that's like not gonna get me canceled.

Give it a shot, we could always cut it out.

Okay, if we are going to like have these conversations, which I am down for, like I don't think we should ignore this person who's very clearly sick. Like, if we're gonna have those conversations about extreme weight, we also should be having those conversations about extreme weight on the other end. Like, I think that we kind of encourage and applaud people who are sickly in the other way. Mhm. And like, we can't say that, right? Mhm. But we have to say for Ariana Grande, like, she's sick. Yeah. Like, it's— it is two extremes and they're not treated equally. So like, I always feel kind of weird being like, she looks so skinny, she looks unhealthy, cuz it's like you would never say it about the opposite. And they are both equally valid health issues.

Yeah.

You know, so I don't really ever like make like big state, but like, I don't really get involved. But like, yeah, she looks really bad and really scary, and it's— I can't even watch it. It makes me feel sick.

Yeah. And I think when she was doing press for Wicked and she's doing a movie, like, it's, you know, little bits.

You're easy to be like more staged, more covered up.

It's like smaller bits of work. We're walking down a red carpet, we're sitting for an interview, you know. A movie is all cut up. A tour is such a physically demanding thing, even when you're at the peak of physical fitness. And tours are hard for everybody. Everybody cancels midway through, you know, mental health, physical health, everything. And it's like, to start your tour in a place like this— yeah, is so scary. Like, how is she getting through these shows? How is she going? I know dozens of these shows.

It reminds me, in Taylor's documentary she talked about how in the 1989 tour she had like a severe eating disorder. And now when you look back, she's like real thin. But I think at the time she didn't look sick. Like, we always thought she was like this tall and lanky girl.

She also had always been thin. We didn't really realize that she's thinner than usual, and it wasn't like so surprising. She's always like just been naturally thin to us.

But she said like at the end of the shows, like, she would be so lightheaded, like really having a hard time seeing and like dizzy and her balance. So I don't know how Ariana, who I think is in a much more extreme state— much more— I don't know how she's physically able to do it. Yeah, she looks so scary to me, and I feel so sad for her. I think like people forget like she's been through so much. Like the fact that she's still performing, standing, like after Manchester, the fact that she still lives a public life after Mac Miller— like this is a person who's been through like— so I don't— I can't even blame her for struggling. And I don't know like what we're supposed to do or say. Like I, I have no idea. And I'm sure she has people around her who are having these— no, it's not a secret. It's not like she doesn't know.

Uh, does she have people around her who are saying this to her?

I don't She's surrounded by a lot of family and like old school friends, like people from Florida that she's like, you know, she's always with her mom and her grandma and her brother and her friends from like Victorious era. It's like the same people. I have to imagine at least one person has brought it up. Yeah.

And she knows, like, I, I imagine disorder.

I think, you know, you have an eating disorder. And I also think when you have an eating disorder like this, uh, people talking about it like makes it worse.

So I don't know. But I also think she, she might like how she looks.

Well, yes, of course. Like, what I think— that's anorexia. Like, when you look sick, that's like a good thing. Yeah, but then it's also like body dysmorphia. She might look in the mirror and like think she's obese.

Yeah, but no, it's, it's hard to watch someone like dancing and jumping and singing and like doing the most.

Like, because she looks so frail. She looks like I'm so frail. You're gonna break a bone. Yeah, yeah, it's bones popping out of her skin. Like, it's really upsetting.

Yeah, um. I don't know how she can do a whole tour. I feel like this isn't gonna go all the— like, because most people cancel their tour anyway, like, and they're—

I know, I feel like the last time— I feel like the last time she went on tour, she was like running on fumes emotionally. Like, every clip, every news story was she's breaking down crying. Now I feel like she's running on fumes physically. I don't know how one person can literally stand for more than 10 seconds, somebody that looks like her. Like, it's just so—

also, she's singing songs from Wicked.

No, I don't think so. That's funny.

It's like funny to watch her like be a pop star again and like do the dance moves like Thank U, Next. It's like, Glinda, what are you doing here?

It's true. It's like— and also her esthetic is so different now than it was the last time she was a pop star. The last time she was a pop star, she was classic Ariana Grande. Thigh-high boots, little dresses, a classic side part ponytail. Now she still has her side part ponytail because you'll have to literally take that from her cold dead hands. But it's like the very light makeup, it's like fairy lacy dresses. It's very confusing.

Yeah, the pop hits are like— when she sings a ballad, like, she's been doing that for the past few years, even when she has been this way for a while now. But it's like the, the bops and the, and the dance moves, like, it's feels like a different person.

It does.

Yeah. So yeah, we'll see. We'll see how the tour goes. Yeah, but I think people had fun. Hopefully. I can't believe I didn't know this was happening.

I didn't know it was happening either, but I was just reminded. I was like, because she's all over TikTok now, like these clips, and so I ended up on Ariana Talk. It's actually so underrated that she returned to Manchester like 2 weeks after the event and like put on that whole concert. Like, I— people—

she—

like, I think people give her a lot of grace because she's been through so much, but like, it's just— it was a reminder that like she's literally been through like the worst of the worst. Like, It's insane.

Yeah, I think people do give her a lot of grace.

Yeah, and she deserves it.

She deserves more.

Yeah.

Are you—

but I feel scared, like, seeing her.

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

What number? 4.

Yeah, it's a little Bravo news. Kyle Cook and Craig Conover seemingly making amends after drink drama amid reunion with Austin Kroll. So Kyle Cook was spotted with Austin and Craig in, um, Charleston, I believe, because I believe this is just like me putting pieces together. Kyle is dating Sally from Southern Charm.

Oh, you think that's why he was there?

I do. And it's July. Do Southern Charm usually film now? Yeah, actually, this time last year they were filming. So maybe Kyle— it's funny if Kyle's now going on Southern Charm the way that Craig used to go on Summer House.

Yes, yes.

Um, the tables have turned. But yeah, the word on the street was that like Kyle was seeing Sally, so it would make sense that he went down to visit her and like be on the show while they're filming. That's cute content even if they're not going to last forever. Like, sure, why not?

Yes, I got tagged in this quite a bit. I do want to just sort of clear the record. I spoke to Craig.

Do you want to put out—

oh, you spoke to Craig the night before? He obviously like wanted to give us a heads up. He's like, by the way, like, I think Austin's bringing Kyle tomorrow. He's like— he was kind of nervous. And I was like, whatever. Like, just— I know we've all like sort of forgiven Kyle. One thing about me, I have not. I like hate him to my core. He owes my husband an apology. I will say that till I die. And once the apology is given, like, I will move on, but it's not coming. Um, Hopefully he apologized.

I'd love for him to give an apology. I would love that.

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Um, so like, hate— like, if Kyle Cook has no haters, which he almost does, but he never will because I'm still alive, bitch, right?

Maybe he gave an apology to Craig. And what's actually nice is that if they are filming, like, we will see what happens, right?

Um, and I think it probably went better than they thought. You know, boys getting together, drinking, no hard feelings.

Craig has to do what he has to do, and like, boys move on quickly.

Yeah, as they should. As they— so we're just to kind of clear my name, we're all good.

Oh yeah, yeah. And Kyle posted the photo saying, by the way, so what, S-E-W?

That's so boy, like, so what?

Yeah, after like, you know, causing fights, like a car crash, like everybody else is fighting because you like started shit, and it's like, yeah, what, so what?

So what, we destroyed everyone's businesses and families and lives. So what? Well, the place looks great.

What do you think about Kyle and Sally? Do you know Sally?

I don't know Sally.

You don't know Sally?

No, but I watch Southern Charm. Which one is she? Is she the one that was into Shep and like used to be a pageant queen or something?

No. Oh no, that's Molly, I think, with the, um, tuba.

The one with the tuba? Yeah. Okay. I don't know Sally at all.

Sally came on like 2 seasons ago. She used to fight with Taylor, then she, um, She was really into Austin last season, like literally sitting there waiting for him to break up with his girlfriend, like just waiting, waiting, waiting.

And this isn't the one that Craig was with and then like the— he liked— she liked Craig and then Craig liked her but she didn't like him anymore? No, that was Charlie.

Sally.

Charlie.

And Charlie and Craig ended things cuz Sally got in the way. Got it. Sally just like does the most, the absolute most. But you know what, as far as do I like—

only somebody like desperate and who does the most like would be ever seriously dating Kyle. Sally was on The Bachelor.

Back in the day on Clayton's season. Yeah, who's Clayton?

Oh, I missed that season.

Yeah. Um, so as far as— I can't speak to Sally as a person, but Sally as a character on Southern Charm, like, I don't think we're designed to like her all the time. She does also operate as like an agent of chaos, and like, as someone who was really rooting for Charlie and Craig, like, she completely fucking ruined it for them. Oh. Um, and she's just— yeah, she's really messy. But I actually think like she is who Kyle would have wanted Amanda to be more like, out and about and fun and She is so Kyle.

Got it.

The fun girl.

Went down to party.

The brother. Now here's the girl who will go out every night and have fun and be one of the guys. I actually think like I would like to see what happens between the two of them, 'cause this is what Kyle has said that he wants.

Yeah, and I do think that Kyle's time on Summer House like is over. He's like too old. So graduating to Southern Charm where everyone's older and sometimes they, you know, they settle down. Like I think that that's probably a good move for him professionally.

And Sally says that she wants to settle down, but then like she doesn't. I don't know how much like her actions line up with that, right? But she says that she does, so we'll see. We'll see. It's, it's a fun plot twist. I'm here for it. I love the synergy.

Yeah, right? I love a crossover episode. Suite Life of— That's So Suite Life of Hannah Montana.

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Our fifth story is Page Six is reporting that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are marrying at New York City's Madison Square Garden.

Yeah, so I just want to say, because, you know, I like live for credit, like, I got tagged in this so many times. All my friends were like, you called it, you called it. I didn't come up with this. I had seen it on TikTok.

Like, so I just want to say, like, I have to be honest, originate from—

I just, I saw like people saying like, I heard it was here, I heard it was there. And so one person said Madison Square Garden. I brought it up because I thought it was a really interesting guess. Um, I think the fact that it's widely being reported as such means that it's not. Like, I, I just— again, I think it could be a decoy. I think, like, I just—

it could be a decoy, but it's like, the good thing about Madison Square Garden is that even if everybody knows that it's there, we're not getting anything. We're not getting anything.

Yeah, so that's true. It is sort of like a protected— and like, the game— like, the most famous people in the world, the president, is going to the game tonight. So if it's secure enough for like Game 3 and 4 of the Knicks Finals with all those celebrities, businessmen, politicians, she's probably secure enough in there. I just don't— I don't know, I don't feel confident that we're gonna know where it is when it is. So you're saying it's July 3rd at MSG? Like, I don't know, I feel like maybe it already happened.

But also, at the same time, that like us like talking about it like made this article happen. Like, now they're just—

you think we were like a driving force in it being widely reported?

I think like maybe we put a spotlight on MSG. Maybe we did.

Okay, maybe because like our clip went so viral. Um, maybe. I also think though, because I then had heard, you know, they're saying the guest list is 1,000 people.

Excuse?

Yeah, which let's just operate under the assumption that that's true. There are only so many venues because like Jewish weddings are like 400 or 500 people. And so like I've been to the places in the city where you can have 500 people. Yeah. Um, 1,000? No, I don't know that. So there are only so many places that can physically house 1,000 people. And if you are inviting 1,000 people, yeah, uh, it's gonna get out. You know, the Kennedy wedding, Caroline and JFK, which was like famously private in the middle of nowhere, was 25 people. Like, yeah, 25 people can keep a secret for a few months. Um, but I also heard that people who got invited were told where to be and when, but not exactly where they're going.

What town to be in.

Be in New York, be ready at 7 o'clock, mystery bus ride. Yeah. But yeah, so I'm just hearing a lot of shit. I don't know what's real and what's not. It's hard.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's— we also still have that Rhode Island June 13th. Oh, that's this weekend, by the way.

We also have the Hamptons July 4th. Yep. So we'll see.

Yeah, um, MSG is a great option. I never would have thought of it, but just security-wise, privacy-wise, like, it's an amazing option. They're obviously like— they have their security on point, and you're also like coming in right after high season of security, so it's they've got all the checks in place. The mayor's going tonight, the president's going tonight. Like, they have it all on lock, like, the month before. So everyone's like sort of used to this level of intensity.

Yes, but what if, what if it's like, okay, a stadium is a good idea— not a stadium, an arena, because it's covered, the ceiling's covered. So like, what if it's not this arena, it's a different one, right? Okay, like Arrowhead, duh, but that's a stadium, so ceiling There's no ceiling. Oh, drone, drone, drone. It's helicopters. Cover it. Helicopter. No, no, no, but why not just you in arena?

Yeah, yeah, it has to be like—

what about the Long Island Coliseum?

Nassau Coliseum? I mean, there's so many good arenas.

And that's why they're gonna— they're calling it Hamptons.

Um, I don't know, it's a good—

it's a good, um, idea.

I have heard so many things and I can't— I can't keep apart what I've heard from people I know from Instagram, from the verified sources, from the unverifieds. Although I will say, I know that for a fact, like, people in my life who I know and are cool and like would know people— I've now gotten confirmed from two separate parties, it is in New York City on July 3rd. Or at least the people have been told to be in New York City on July 3rd. Maybe they're chartering a plane and taking them to the Hamptons.

Yeah, exactly. Okay, I don't know. Okay, we will wait and see.

Now a new bombshell has entered the villa.

Let's dive into our tea recap. Open up the Sean box, the Sean files.

So we had two episodes to recap, Friday night and Sunday night. Sunday night we had a, um, a recoupling. The second that new boy Corbin chose, it was pretty obvious that he was going home. Um, I think maybe some people thought Trinity was going to choose him, but like, honestly, I'm really shipping Trinity and Bryce.

No, me too.

They're definitely friends.

But he— I think he was quaking when Trini was like, we haven't had a lot of conversations. Like, I thought she was going to pick Sean for a second, and I don't want to see Bryce go home. It was sad to see both of them up on the chopping block.

I have such a bad feeling about this new bombshell that, like, the thing about Kenzie is I liked her in the beginning. It's hard to watch someone consistently be so dumb that, like, I can't really root for her. She makes really bad decisions.

Now, this was entirely out of her control because Corbin, like, got to choose, but she said she was going to choose him anyway, which I'm glad that we got to know who she was going to choose, and I'm glad that it was Corbin, because it doesn't mean Sean could have stayed and didn't stay. And like, right, I, I'm, I'm very happy, even though I think she's a fool that she was going to choose Corbin.

She's a fool.

She's a fool. Um, I'm glad that things happened the way that they would have happened, and that's that. Now the people here like don't deserve Sean.

Like, Sean— no, it's Jaylen 2.0.

Sean makes me heartsick. Like, the fact that he quit his job, 6 years of police force work— I know it was like 5 in California and like 1 there, okay. Um, and that he has like nothing to go back to. He doesn't have like an influencer career to speak of, you know, because he was only there for a couple of days. Like, I feel sick. I genuinely feel sick. This guy seemed like such a nice guy, such a quality guy, you know. Some of like these girls don't— there are other—

no, they don't deserve it. As much as somebody can show up in a wholesome way, he did. Yeah, like obviously the show's disgusting. He was as good as it could be. And you know what, I saw somebody say this on social media and it's so true because like I remember last season when like Huda— and I imagine like going on the show with a kid is hard, like how you launch that to this group of immature morons, like, is difficult. And I think, like, hiding it and sort of its entrapment— like, I think there's— I think the only right way to do it is the way he did it. And I think he was punished for it because, like, this group, like, can't even imagine dating somebody with a child. He doesn't get enough credit for, like, day one being like, I'm a dad, like, so proud. He never hid it for 2 seconds. Ariana saying that her son would be so proud of him, like, was an extremely bizarre thing to say.

Like, he, like, seriously flopped and, like, like, was like slimed and like made out with a bunch of like random people he didn't know on TV. But okay.

And I was getting upset because on the challenge, which actually I think the challenges are mostly stupid, but the challenge on Friday was like— I was sat— first of all, the Melanie v.

Kada, it's what we've been asking for. It's what we've been asking for.

When Anaya said that her office crush was Sean, I— there was like a spark of hope that like these two, who I hadn't even considered as a couple as the only two normal people on this show, they're perfect for each other. And I'm devastated that they didn't get a chance. I wish she had— I don't think she's very outgoing. I think she's maybe a little shy. So like, the fact that she's in this couple with like a decent enough guy, and like he keeps saying and doing all the right things, like, why rock the boat? Like, right, he's obviously not the love of her life though. And I think that if she had like sort of taken a chance on Sean, she would have ended up being really happy. And I'm, I'm upset.

Yeah, I am upset too that he's gone. Like, he obviously didn't get enough time. No one could appreciate him because they're like all so immature. But also like, you we do like look a little critically at like people who go on shows like this, like with children. And that doesn't have to apply to him too. It does apply to him.

It does. Yeah, it can't just be the women. Although I'm sorry, it is different. Um, it is, it is. I'm sorry, still, but it's weird.

Agreed. And there are other, there are other reality shows that you can go on with a child and it's not as weird. It's less weird.

Love Island.

One, like Love Island is a porno.

Yeah.

Two, like you don't get contact with the outside world.

I do think if you have a kid, they maybe let you talk, like, on FaceTime.

I think maybe. But there are other shows where it's like more— it's less—

agreed, agreed—

of insular. Like, he could go on The Bachelor and you're not in a—

like, literally on another continent, island. No, I agree, it's weird. And, um, we should be saying it about both the men and the women, but I don't want you guys to think that I think it's equal.

Yeah, I know, I agree, but like, they do deserve some hate for that.

Agreed, agreed. He's not like perfect, but I think the way he like was so proud of being a dad, like, is really sweet. And he didn't hide it, and he was like— it was the first thing out of his mouth. And I think this group of people is like so immature. When Corbin said he was 22, he graduated college 3 weeks ago, like, these are not serious people, right?

No, they're not serious people. So let's talk about Corbin, because I—

somebody on TikTok called him Corbin GBT. He's literally like an AI bot. He says the weirdest things.

I think he's so creepy. Like, I, I don't know. I, I think you should like watch, watch that one. Like, I know everybody like thinks he's so handsome and he is so handsome and so like nobody's going to question him cuz it's like everyone just wants to be with him cuz he's like so beautiful to behold. But like every— everyone like, can I get a kiss? Like, remind me of that kiss. Like, it was just like really creepy and I'm getting like a weird vibe from him. And also now like, that is bad news. Now his personality is like needing to come out a little bit and there's like like not a lot of like depth there. When people ask him about his family, like he just doesn't like go deep. And I feel like the girls are maybe still blinded by his looks, but it's not going to last that long. As you said, like at a certain point, like, you know, you have to be able to have a conversation. And I just— I don't know, I think he's bad news.

Yeah, no, he's like a 10 out of 10 looks-wise, and the more he talks, it drops. Like, he— there's something very dark and sinister. I don't think he's gonna be like a good match for Kenzie. And I understand like that she was sort of like left with Sean by default, and maybe there was no connection there. And I do think that they tried.

I do. You know what, like, but it's something to have in common, like being the outcast.

Yes, yes, that happened with Casey and Anaya. They were just matched up as like two losers, and now I think that they actually are happy with one another. Um, back to the challenge. We need to talk about Melanie versus Kaida because Kaida who I maybe didn't have like that strong of a feeling about before that episode, like is my queen.

Um, one, I like that she didn't kiss the bombshell when he wanted to outside of the challenge.

Outside of the challenge, like after he had just kissed Kenzie, she's like, uh, no, no. And also, she's the same pickup line.

She is in a couple that she is happy and happy to kiss someone outside of a challenge. Apparently, Charlene, there's no rules when it comes to challenge. To kiss someone outside of a challenge, like, that's a big deal. So I was glad that she didn't do that and that like you know, she wants to honor the couple that she's in until she wants to move on from it.

And then Melanie had selected her to get slimed. I forget what the question was. It was like who— something like not trustworthy or whatever. So such low-hanging fruit. Melanie looks so immature, so stupid, like such a loser.

Like, it was because like Kate, uh, Sincere like pulled Kada for her for a chat.

So quite literally none of her— did not her fault. She did not ask for that. Um, she's been nothing but lovely and stunting on these hoes. She gets signed. I thought she handled it with such grace, being like, that's okay, I'm still gonna look cute. And you know what she did? Her slick back was slicked. She was such a queen for that. And then obviously she was gonna slime her back, but the question just was so ripe. Who needs a promotion from their couple? Her choosing Sincere, like, it was such a slay that even Melanie couldn't fight with her. When Melanie got back to the villa, she was like, you ate with that, and like gave her a high five. And I do think that they like technically buried the hatchet, even though I know Kaida just fucking hates Melanie.

Yeah, that's what's weird. It's like the girls keep fighting. I love that. And then they like bury it really quickly and it seems like everyone's moved on, but it's like, personally, I wouldn't forget, you know?

So let's talk about Beyah and—

well, then after the challenge, like, Melanie starts to crash out, as the, as the children say. Um, I guess we only started to see that side of her on Friday night, of this like completely crazy person. And like, the, the talks with Sincere about like him exploring, and because he pulled Kaida for a chat, which he's like well within his rights to do.

They are Jeremiah and Huda.

Yeah, but I think her reaction was so like, was so crazy. And maybe the season just feels like—

which reaction?

When he starts talking to—

oh, him. I thought you were talking about—

yeah, sorry, Melanie. When, when she's talking to Sierra and she's like— and she curses so much. And it's like, yeah, she does. I cuss a little, but like, if you fucking want to explore, I'll fucking be Dora the fucking Explorer, you motherfucker. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, it's, it's, it's uncomfortable. And it's like, it's really, like, it's really cringe, you know? Every other word is the F-word.

It really speaks to her age. This group of people is so young. None— I don't think one of them is over 25.

Yeah, so no, no, but she's actually really crazy. She's not just young, she's crazy.

I felt conflicted because she's a certifiable crazy person. But then the conversation with Béa— first of all, I was— I, I got such a bad feeling from Béa when she, like, sat down Kenzie and was like, you know, you wanted to have a conversation with Gabriel, but like, you didn't talk to me about it. And I just want you to, like, take accountability for that. She kept saying accountability, and it's like, who the fuck are you? Are you the police? Are you the sheriff of Love Island? Like, you're the behavior police? So with Kenzie, okay, I guess she felt personally assaulted by Kenzie, so she was the accountability police. But then when Melanie, who was like maybe being annoying and flirty, like with the new bombshell, she was taking it up on behalf of Kenzie. And it's like, like, seriously, who are you? Like, are you the sheriff? She was pissing me off so much. I was shocked that crazy-ass Melanie handled it perfectly. She was like, oh, I did. And then she turned to Trinity, she's like, I'm sorry, because I guess it was Trinity who she offended, not Beyah. So she was like, oh, I'm really sorry, like, you know, I do that sometimes when I get enthusiastic.

It should have just been done there. But then she was like, yeah, like, after apologizing, being like, yeah, like, we felt like it was really extreme. Like, shut the fuck up.

Oh, that's so funny, because, because I'm already out on Melanie, I was very excited to see someone try and put her in.

Oh my God, no.

No. And what's funny is so Bey is like speaking from completely like— she acts like she's speaking on behalf of Kenzie. She's actually speaking selfishly because she doesn't want Kenzie to come for Gabriel, her man. Um, so she's like taking it upon herself to be this voice of the group. But I did think Melanie's behavior with the new bombshell was very weird. She's so mad at Sincere for exploring, meanwhile she's googly-eyed and she can't sit near her seat or keep it in her pants. So I, I'm like, because Melanie is now on, uh, like my dislike list, I'm happy to see someone go toe-to-toe with her.

So Melanie is on my dislike list, but I thought Béa was so out of bounds. Like, I didn't agree with her whatsoever. First of all, her behavior was definitely weird, and that's something you can like gossip with the other girls about being like, um, but like to confront her is crazy. Two, it's not an assault on you. So like, you— if anyone else was upset, they could have said something, but they didn't even realize until Béa brought it up, and Trinity was like, yes, she did do that. And then I do think that Trinity was actually, um, a really good mediator when Melanie got up and had her crazy— she's just like a very crazy emotional person. Like, her reaction was very outside wanting to talk to Kaitlyn, being like, I need a friend. And Kaitlyn's like, no bitch, I'm not your friend. I loved that. I'm sorry, Bea is my least favorite person on this island. I thought I, I sniffed it a little bit in her confrontation with Kenzie, like the morality police. But then I just— I'm sorry, I, I literally hate this person. And she's so high and mighty because she's like in a good connection with the hottest guy there.

And like, I'm sorry, I want him so bad to dump her. Like, I just— I need her to know what it's like. Because like how you act at the top is interesting when you get down on bottom, right? Like, and so she's just so holier than thou. Like, I can't fucking stand her. Oh, that's so funny.

I I don't feel that way. And I'm just like happy to see someone put Melanie in her place because she's like tearing up. She's like a hurricane. It's like it hasn't even— like, I understand week 1, like 2, 3, as the weeks go on, like you're becoming more involved in the sociological experiment. No, and like, but no, it hasn't even started yet. You're being so mad at this guy who like likes you so much, and it's like he's about—

if she just chill—

he's objectively gorgeous. He's allowed to go and have a conversation. Well, even if she was ugly, yeah, right, to go and have a conversation with someone that like— that is what this show is, and we're so not even close to a place where like we're not exploring. And just the way that she handled everything. And then also with all the new guy stuff, she's being like so enthusiastic about it and performative. And it's like also to rile up Sincere. It's not even because she like actually likes him, because if she had a chance to recouple with him, would she have chosen him? No. So you're using him.

It's like watching a middle schooler on Love Island using him.

And it is stopping— I mean, now I don't want Corbin to like really be with Trinity or Kenzie, but like, it was their time to like try and talk to this guy when like you are locked in on Sincere and like you're co-opting everyone's time to like put on this performance for Sincere. Like, it really rubs me so the wrong way that like if anybody has any issue with her, wants to raise it to her, I'm listening.

No, I'm sorry, like how you feel about Melanie is how I feel about Béa. Wow. And then I just want to say the conversation that they— where they made up and then Béa was like, I wish I was like as athletic as you, like, that was really weird.

Melanie was like, you get like fucking play soccer with them and I'm just like standing there fucking watching.

Like, like that was like genuine, like this is what I mean, like actual teenagers. Like we're watching like people who have not experienced life, who have— do not have their frontal lobes fully formed. Like they're not smart, they're not intelligent, they're not sane, they're not mature. Like the conversations are like brain dead.

And that was like her paying her a compliment.

It was—

yes, it was so weird.

I know we were so backhand—

we were meant to be like moved by the scene, but I'm like I'm— I don't think that we feel bad for, for this one because she's too athletic, and I'm supposed to feel bad for that one because she's not athletic.

Too pretty.

Yeah, because she's too pretty. No, it was— they played Die on This Hill by Sienna Spears like they wanted us to feel some sort of way.

And I guess that's like now Béa's like storyline is that like her whole life she's had to be tough and like Gabriel makes her soft. And like that speech that she gave at the recoupling felt so outsized for this 3-day situationship. Like I actually felt uncomfortable. And I think he was already like interested a little bit now in Kenzie from like her performance, her splits, because she's doing the splits.

Yeah, he's here to fight.

And I think this, this crazy speech she gave maybe pushed him even further into Kenzie's arms. I hope so.

Yeah, I like— it's like everyone's just acting like so set and it's like we just got here. Nobody is with anyone. Everything is open and fluid.

I want to talk about Anaya. Okay, so Anaya is hands down my favorite person in the villa. I think she's such a queen. I don't really believe in their love. Like, I think that they were like a situation of like a connection of convenience because they like were the singles at the first challenge and now they're just together and they maybe have some things in common. And he keeps saying all the right things. I don't know if I believe him, but I got very, um, like caught up in their whirlwind romance when they had the conversation about how like Anaya is the blueprint. And it's like a conversation on colorism, how like, you know, I think like in the Black community, like the darker your skin, sometimes like like, you— like, they, they like place less value, like, the darker your skin is. And he was just like, no, no, you're the blueprint. Like, I, I got— like, I was— I, I do feel like he's a little bit of like a wordsmith, just like says what he's exactly supposed to say. But I got caught up in it. I'm like, yes, she is a blueprint.

And you know what, she's the only person on this show who's not out here embarrassing herself, acting like an immature— like, I love her. And so the fact that he said that and saw her, I was like, you know what, she is the blueprint. Like, I got very caught up in it. And like, they're my number one.

No, I know. And like, even though, uh, I'm not completely like sold on like their romantic connection yet. Like, he's done nothing to, you know, be— he's not said one thing to her and then something to someone else. So like, I'm gonna give them the better— give him the benefit of the doubt because I do think like she, she's fantastic. And she really seems to be like the voice of reason on the show towards the girls. You know, she's always giving advice. And also for the audience, like someone that— who's like a reliable narrator. Yes, because the other girls can get a little crazy.

Yeah, 100%. Also, Trinity's such a queen.

Also, Trinity's coming up.

Trinity's coming up, and I have to like stop my brain from resurfacing the daylight savings, um, car blowjob, because like, that's not congruous with the girl. First of all, I thought she really ate in like telling Bia she wasn't 100% right, and then her connection with Bryce, they're just like so funny. He was— she was like, did you have like an ugly face growing up? And he was like, no. Like, I actually think that they're funny. Um, I wish she didn't share that.

Yeah, there was a lot that was shared there that was not— yeah, was not favorable toward the villagers.

Yeah, but that was by far—

that was obviously the highlight. Um, but I'll, I'll try and move past it, otherwise, you know, we'll never move on.

Yeah.

Uh, but no, that's— I can't think about it too hard. But yeah, no, I like her and Bryce. Oh, I like Bryce and Zach.

Like, I think they're gonna— yeah, Bryce and Zach have like a whirlwind romance. They are the Nicolandria of this season, like two people who are acting as friends but who are obviously in love, even though Nicolandria is not love. Um, they're hilarious.

No, or maybe they'll be the first throuple. Like, maybe that was a foreshadowing when Bryce, like, wanted to get in on that. Like, maybe it's the three of them. I love that. Yeah, something new and fresh.

So tonight I will not be able to watch because I'm busy, like, being not like anyone else, and certainly not like any other girls. So Love Island recap resumes on Wednesday.

Okay, great.

That's our show, you guys. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast of the Morning.

Pour one out for Sean.

Like, and I can't because my Simple Modern is leak-proof, but I'm pouring one out.

I just need— I need them to give him his job back.

I know, maybe he'll be a casamor or something. And it's like, but no, the thing is he had no like sparks or connections with anyone, so bringing him back doesn't like shift the plot at all. He's just some random guy.

I saw the two bombshells that we're getting and like, they're probably gonna go for like those other guys, obviously, like not like the steady, stable cop. And also like he did say like he wants to like do it doggy style, pull your hair and spit in your mouth. And like, I don't—

oh my God, I forgot that about him.

And so like, I don't know how he can get back on the force after that.

Oh my God, I don't know how the other, you know, cops can look him in the eyes after every—

how can anyone look at the eyes after like that? And also, I found that challenge, that slime part, like was a humiliation ritual. It was really upsetting when they like— Kenzie was the first girl and like it just totally like rocked her. And then she has to go—

reason why it was so humiliating, it was because it wasn't like a dunk tank where they drop you down. They hurled you forward, so you're like flying through the air, like with your limbs, and you look so stupid.

And you're like belly flopping, your face hits the water. It's also like slime, and it's disgusting. It's not like water. If it had been water, then they could just be wet, which they swim all day anyway. Who cares? The fact that Kenzie and the other girls, she like had to do her performance like this slimed up, like, goop ball— it was really humiliating, and I found it upsetting. Agreed. I found it upsetting to watch. And if somebody slimed me, let me tell you, let me tell you, you might think we're friends. You might think weeks will go by and I'm your best friend in this, and they'll think that you've forgotten, and they'll think I will never forget, and I will hit you where it hurts the most when you're least expecting it.

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