Transcript of The Love Island Felon: Wednesday, June 10th, 2026 New

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So we have such an exciting morning with our summer merch launch. We also excited I didn't want to delay today's episode, but like, if you hear alarms going off on my phone throughout the episode, like, I'm busy while I'm recording this episode. It's 9:30 right now. Nick's sick of tickets because I'm going tonight, bitch. I don't have tickets, but I'm going. Vivi dropped off a blue Chanel bag. They're like, we heard you're going to the game, here, wear this blue Chanel bag. I'm like, that's great, do you guys also have tickets? I'm going, it's tonight, 10:00 AM.

What kind of bag?

Blue Chanel, it's sick. I'll show you, I'll show you, I'll show you.

What kind of bag?

It's actually like a square shape. I had never seen it before. I'll show you, it was sick.

Are they letting guys in the stadium?

Oh, oh yes, that was just when the president was there. He's not going. Oh my God, you scared me. Um, so it's 9:30 right now, 10 AM Eastern time the tickets go on sale, but I happen to know that at 9:45 the queue opens. So, um, I have an alarm set for 9:44. Don't be alarmed in 10 minutes when my alarm goes off, it's just me.

You're the only one who's going to get scared when your alarm goes off. You're the only one.

That's so true. No, but it's like if a siren was going off, I don't want someone in who's listening to the podcast thinking that like, you know, this is a dream.

No, you're just letting us know and like, we'll be fine. You are going to have a hard attack. Are you able to handle it?

Do you want to know that I literally had a dream last night about getting tickets? And it was just like kind of an amalgamation of all the things I'm interested in, because I was trying to get tickets to the game with Garrett Graham, and like he and I were like looking for tickets, and then we got tickets and I saw Margot. Like, it was— I'm like this—

I need the game—

I need this series to end. Like, it's taking over my life. No, he was very happy with me.

No, because she was with Jesse Solomon, right?

Right, right. I heard Margot and Jesse Solomon were spotted out. Let's start that rumor. Maybe it'll be true. Even though we've actually talked about at length, like Margo, and when I mean we, I mean Jackie and I, we've talked at length about like Margo and Jesse Solomon.

He's not right. They're not right for each other. No.

Jesse Solomon needs Margo. Like I think he's a good girl for her, but I don't think that he is the right match. Like Margo doesn't need him and I don't think that would be a good guy for her.

I agree. And more so like he needs Margo's family, you know, he needs like everything that comes with dating Margo, like siblings and like in like people in the spotlight who get it and who can like help him stay. Brother-in-laws. Yeah, but I don't think like romantically it's right. Yeah, it's not gonna work, but you never know. Maybe because we're like saying it won't, then it will.

Reverse psychology for sure.

Um, so PFFB, so much to discuss. I actually— I'm embarking on a journey today.

A journey? A co-journey?

A co-journey, Fred.

Cojourner Fred.

A cojourner's Fred.

But what's a journer's Fred?

Journer Fred is your new name.

Yeah, of course, my government name. Everybody calls me Cojourney, but my real name is Cojourner Fred. Everyone knows that. Let's call you Fred. Cojourner Fred, I love that. Um.

No, I actually am going on a journey today, which I'm excited to share with everyone, like, when I— my journey is complete.

Oh, that's annoying.

No, but I'm vlogging and like, I'll let you guys know tomorrow.

She's going on a journey!

You know my journey.

I'm going on a journey. Sorry, I keep forgetting that that's this week.

It's today.

Okay, she's going on a kajirna, Fred. Everybody be cool.

Like, it's not a big deal. It's a real kajirna, Fred.

And it actually is a big deal.

It is a big deal. I'm vlogging, so I'm like really excited, and I'll like share more then.

I'm also vlogging, by the way.

Oh, we have— I have like 4 vlogs running right now. I always have like 4 vlogs going in my phone.

You're good about that. Like, you start vlogs months in advance. I start them the day after.

I have a vlog that I'm planning to release in October that I—

that I— you're kidding. That's crazy.

But you know, like, I might— a couple snags along the way. I don't know if it's going to make it, right?

Right.

I don't know if it's going to make it, but like, I had the idea of something that's happening in October. I'm like, what if I started vlogging now? Like, people would love that. Everybody loves that.

Everybody does love that.

So I'm trying, and then I have my other vlog for my journey, and I just have— can't like cross wires.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have to make separate folders, stay organized.

I do, I do have separate folders.

The theme of today's episode is TV recap. I watched 3 hours of TV. I'm all caught up. I was so fucking like time management life hacking yesterday. I took a bath, watched the old episode of Love Island on my computer, like I was so like millennial with my computer in the bathtub, um, and then I watched Summer House, and then the new episode of Love Island. I'm all caught up. I voted for Love Island. I literally downloaded the app. I'm sorry, I do feel I will not. So I feel like a lot of these shows have you vote and whatever, but the votes don't— like Dancing with the Stars or like American Idol, it's like the vote plus the judges, whatever. Yeah, I feel like Love Island—

the scales are tipped.

I feel like Love Island is the only show where they actually make decisions based on the numerical value of the votes. So I feel like your vote really matters, and I feel like—

but the problem is, is that the Love Island fan base can't be trusted.

So I, I really hope actually that everybody learns from last year.

They're gonna learn the wrong lesson, you know what I mean?

Because I voted for— it's like, who do you want the bombshells to be with? That's what the vote was. So I voted that I wanted the new bombshell Caleb to be with, uh, Kenzie. Yeah, soul and sincere, obviously. And, um, Jen and Gabriel.

Yes, those are the right answers. I could see people thinking that like soul and sincere and Melanie are the Jeremiah, Huda, and Iris of the situation. And I actually think that that was a situation where like we voted well, and putting Iris and Jeremiah together was iconic. And it like—

yes, it was, it was iconic.

It kicked off the season like the jaws on the floor. So like I do think that Sol and Sincere should be coupled up. And it was starting to make me feel like if it were up to him, he would still couple up with Melanie. So we need the audience to push him in another direction because Melanie and Sincere is not it.

We'll do a full TV recap. We'll try not to let it bleed into the—

but I don't— I just want to say, like, I'm, I'm committed to the show. I recap it, I watch every day. I'm committed. I will not download that fucking app and give them my email address and vote.

That's a bridge too far. It's your civic duty to vote.

I'm not making my— I'm not grabbing a snack, I'm not helping an elder, I'm not helping an elderly—

bring an elderly neighbor—

and I'm not making my voice heard. Outside of my podcast where I talk about it incessantly. But you also, once you have the app, it's sort of like I'm an influential person, but I'm not a citizen, you know? So I can't actually vote.

I love that.

I don't have voters' rights.

You're like a felon.

I'm like a felon who it can— the Love Island felon who can participate and weigh in, but I can't actually vote.

That's beautiful.

But I can, I can share with you guys my thoughts. And if you wanna vote, you know, having been influenced by my personal Love Island politics. Feel free, but I can't vote.

Okay, well, maybe you shouldn't have robbed that bank. We also have Summer House Part 3 finale reunion, which we will talk about as well. So lots of TV. Um, just 4 minutes until my alarm. I don't want to alarm anyone.

You need to alarm yourself.

I know, I'm just like so paranoid. They've just been dropping— like, seriously, fuck Ticketmaster. This is worse than the Eras Tour, I will say. I'm sure, because with the Eras Tour there was at least some rhyme or reason. They dropped tickets to yesterday's— to today's game 3 times yesterday without telling anyone, like in the middle of the day. It was 5:41. I saw, I'm like, how the fuck do people know that? And there were still 500,000 people in the queue. I also joined the queue, and then Ben joined the queue, and Ben was somehow ahead of me. It's so fucking rigged.

I'm pissed.

This is worse than the Eras Tour. And at least when you got to the Eras Tour, if you were able to get face value tickets, they were somewhat reasonable. Like, the most expensive ticket was like maybe $1,000 or $2,000 less. Like, once you actually— that you're begging for the privilege of getting a face value ticket for $6,000.

And where would $6,000 put you? Sitting where?

For one seat?

Yeah.

$6,000 for one seat will put you high. It'll put you in the, uh, face value. Face value in the 100s. Maybe not center, maybe corner.

Okay. Yeah, that sounds like fair. Yep. But I have like, I think everyone's paying 50 grand, so you can't go by me.

I think people pretty much are paying 50 grand.

No, I saw a video.

No, I saw a video too when they were like going around being like, how much did you pay for your ticket?

And the most someone had paid was $20,000, and she had like an amazing seat.

Oh my God, I saw people who paid $200,000 for 2 tickets.

Oh, in the video I saw the— what, like everybody was like $6,000, $7,500. One girl paid $20,000 in an amazing seat.

Well, I also want to say I feel as though I will be rewarded because like Ticketmaster, like it glitches sometimes. So they offered me this morning, I checked and there were 2 seats available where I didn't want— face value seats where I didn't want to sit.

Mhm.

So I didn't— I did not buy them, although like a, a smarter person would have bought them and then resold them.

Sold them and use the earnings for your big seat.

But like, that's what's wrong. Like, people are buying and selling. I wouldn't wanna take— somebody else bought them. They're gone already. And they got face value seats for where they actually wanted to sit. Like, I'm sorry, I'm lowkey like a socialist.

I was gonna say you're in the right city.

Yeah. Amen to that, comrade. Yeah.

Comrade.

I'm sorry. I could have, I could have, but also who wants the job of like selling tickets out? What am I, a broker?

Yeah, that's true. But they would fly. Like, this is the time to sell a ticket.

Do you think I made a mistake?

I sort of do. You could have earned something, could have put it towards the next seat, could have worked your way up.

What if nobody bought them?

Could have worked your way up. But no, to everyone according to their need, right?

100%, right, Queenie? Yeah, 30 marks, right, Comrade Koji? I just feel like it's wrong. I do. I feel like it's wrong.

Yeah, but there's no—

that's how we're at where we're at right now.

There's no right way to do— like, it— no one's ever going to— everyone be happy.

Like, it No, so somebody else got those two tickets.

Just a hot ticket.

So somebody else got those shit tickets for, uh, $3,000 each, and I passed on.

Where were they?

On a bar stool in the high up $200s. Like, I actually would rather—

oh, they keep— oh, that was the bar stool that you were offered?

No, the first bar stool I was offered was in the $300s. It was one ticket and it was $2,000.

Yeah, $2,000, that's pretty good.

Yeah, I know, for one ticket.

But you could have sold—

yeah, I'm gonna send Ben alone.

You could have sold it, maybe make $4,000, put it towards, you know—

yeah, sorry, I'm not like— I'm not swindling, I'm just trying to get like my husband the night of his life.

Okay, well, pay up.

I, I am prepared to like not be cardboard. I felt like I got a lot of encouragement from the comments yesterday. People are like, well, this is the precise reason that you are cardboard so that you can splurge.

That's true, go comments!

Yes, I feel the comments are very encouraging.

I think I didn't read the comment section yesterday. I usually do, but I just got busy. And like, you're telling me all these things that happen in the comments.

Oh, my alarm, my alarm!

Are you okay?

Okay. But like, they're not here yet, so—

oh wait, what the fuck?

Like, there's no rhyme or reason. This shit's pissing me the fuck off.

Maybe you're like not cut out for this.

I'm certainly not cut out to be a sports fan, let alone a ticket broker.

I think, I think you should just throw money at the problem. I'm trying to. StubHub.

Okay, StubHub is for suckers. Yeah, by the way, I will have to go resale. This is kind of my last chance, this particular drop. I will go resale if all else fails. They're not up yet.

Yeah, but you guys have to go, and honestly, like, maybe you have to go in the $200 or $300s. Like, really? Yeah, if that's what you—

But I have such bad eyesight and I'm so short, like, I won't be able to see anything.

It's about the feeling.

That's true.

You know, you're not really— unless you're sitting courtside, like, seriously, what are you seeing? You're going to be looking at—

that's actually so true.

It's about like experiencing it, this moment in history.

But you'll have to talk to Ben. Ben's like a seat snob for this, so he's like— he's not— he doesn't want to just be—

you don't want to— so you'd rather not go? You'd rather not go? And who even knows if there'll be another game at MSG, at the Garden, right, ever in your life?

Oh my God, yeah, you're right. Fuck.

And rather not go because you're a seat snob?

Well, why don't you open the goddamn waiting room? This is so fucking disgusting. I can't deal with these people.

Okay, like, can we do the show or no?

Yeah, like, we can. Like, honestly, it would be great if, like, you could sort of do the ads.

I know I was thinking that, but, like, I don't have them loaded on my iPad.

I just need to get to the fucking waiting room. Um, okay, give me one minute, one minute. Okay, like, why don't you tell me about what you made for dinner last night?

Oh, I went over to Olivia's. She made a little Greek feast. You know, she loves Greek. If you guys ever think about Olivia, like, flatter her.

We gotta take her to Greece.

We should take her to Greece.

She would fucking— sister trip to Greece.

Oh my God, we're so Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants.

Totally. That would be so cute. America Ferrera.

Is there like a little Greece we could go to in New York?

Sardinia. Oh, you mean like Lower East Side? Definitely. Can we go to Little Greece? We can go to Avra, our favorite Greek restaurant.

Well, honestly, that's all she wants really is to go to like Avra or a Greek restaurant.

What's on Milos, right?

Right. So good. So that's what we had for dinner. And this morning I got her starter and I'm re-embarking on my starter journey. I don't know why, like, I'm— it just doesn't feel the same, even though that starter like is one of my own. It's my next of kin, but it's just, it doesn't feel the same. Not the same? No, it does not. But we'll see. I think once I start feeding it like my way, it'll start to feel more like mine. But that's just been a devastation.

I did it my way.

Did you get in the waiting room?

No. Oh. You said you'll do it my way.

Oh yeah, yeah. You just sounded like you had a triumph.

No, these people are fucking disgusting. Like, a couple of days ago the waiting room opened at 9:45. Yesterday opened at 9:46. It's now 9:47. Open the fuck up.

Oh wow, wow, wow, wow.

I'm going to get flagged. I also got banned from Ticketmaster for 24 hours the other day because I was refreshing a lot. They thought I was like a bot or a scammer. Meanwhile, I'm just like a swirly who's trying to help her husband. But all these bots and scammers actually do get tickets, right?

Right. I think it's like one of those things. And also, I just sort of want to like talk about Summer House.

Um, it's one of those—

no, no, no, like, so we have to do the ads. But I think it's one of those things, it's like if you don't like when you're not least expecting it, it'll happen. So like maybe you should start the ads.

But that's how I get to the end where the queue is of 500,000 people.

Well, you know what, you do your queue, I'm gonna get into the ads, and then we'll get into the story. Sound good, Turtloo? Aye aye, Captain Cojournafred.

I'm not here, you.

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I got kicked out of Ticketmaster again. Permanently for being a bot. I was refreshing so much, and probably just as the tickets are going on sale.

Well, hopefully Ben's having more luck over where he is.

Seriously, fuck you fucking cocksuckers at Ticketmaster. You guys are disgusting fucking criminals. Criminals! I want my fucking band already. Oh my God, I can't believe it. I can't. Like, literally, as like in—

maybe Ben is in.

He's like not taking it as seriously as I am.

Maybe, um, take a drink.

I can't believe it. I did get that. I got kicked out.

Well, maybe the person at Ticketmaster is a toaster and really wants to hear our Summer House thoughts.

And so they said, I know, I know, I want to hear my thoughts. Now I'm just upset.

It's okay, it will happen. You're gonna go. You're going, you guys. Let's start a GoFundMe for Turdy's tickets and let's get her courtside seats.

No, I just— I want to choke the person at fucking Ticketmaster. Like, seriously, Fuck you guys. Fucking disgusting idiots. Like, I— asshole cocksuckers. Oh my God, I'm so fucking pissed.

Deep breath, Jerna Fred. Freddy, I can't—

I can't believe I got kicked out.

Are you there, Freddy?

It's me, Co-Jerner.

Let's get into the stories. Our first story is Summer House reunion part 3 bombshells recap. Beta blockers, monogamy. Uh, part 3 of Summer House reunion aired, and how did it make you feel, Jerna Fred?

It— I, I feel like I definitely echoed a lot of the sentiments that Lindsay was saying. I feel like we got no clarity. The timeline is more confusing than ever. They don't know when they hooked up. Nobody knows. Like, and also I feel like their lack of emotion was like on display even more in this part, and this was the part that focused so heavily on them and their big mistake. Um, it was really just— it's odd behavior, and I, I have to give Andy credit. I feel like he really did a great job at the reunion. He asked all the questions. He didn't pile on. He was like trying to hold them accountable while also remaining somewhat neutral. I feel like he did a really good job. But with these two like sort of crazy people, there was never going to be any sort of resolution. Like even when she says she's sorry, which she's, she's like, I can't say sorry enough times. I'm like, well, you could try.

She literally give a start.

She, she, she barely says sorry. And when she does, it just like is so not believable.

Like I don't think she's sorry. She's like coming from a place of like defensiveness and I'd almost rather hear her say, get—

I'm not sorry.

I'd rather hear her say, get over him, it was 2 years ago, it was 6 months, he doesn't like you, like, get over it. Like, I— this is gonna be my future. Yeah, I'd rather her be a bitch and say that than be like, well, I'm sorry, okay, I said I'm sorry.

Yeah, she's giving nothing. And Andy even asking Wes, because he also— like, when Jesse was crying, like, it was just kind of heartbreaking, and he felt so unmoved by it the entire day. But when they finally asked Jesse why he was crying, and Jesse started crying too, Wes, he was so unmoved by it. Wes, he was so unemotional. Like, that's your best friend, that's your brother. And Andy was like, are you medicated? Like, did you take a beta blocker? And I honestly felt like he was like so upset that Andy asked that question, cuz like he obviously— they both were obviously like heavily medicated. But we know Amanda, like, who's been open about the fact that she does take medication. It was like they just didn't really care about the reunion. They didn't care about talking to everyone. They just wanted to get through it, so they medicated themselves and just did it.

Yeah. Also, people are now being like, beta blockers don't, you know, stymie your emotions just for beta blockers. And it's like, maybe he didn't ask if there are anything else as well, you know, like a Xanax, uh, a weed. And like, he could be on beta blockers and something else, you know what I mean?

Like They're obviously on a lovely little cocktail or something.

Especially her.

Especially her.

Yeah.

But see, like, Amanda did cry like once or twice when everyone was being mean to her, and then when her and Kyle were hugging, they like cried. So you are able to emote. But I also think like West doesn't care. Like, he is a crazy person.

Yeah. I was glad for this part of the reunion cuz I feel like they finally got to the questions that I was really curious about. Like, first of all, I thought Kyle, when he said like, this girl has been in a relationship for 10 years, like, she's in the most vulnerable state. You take her out, you say you're going to show her the streets, and like, you've completely isolated her at like such a vulnerable place in her life. Like, I thought that was like very well said and so true.

Like, yeah, but it takes a lot of the accountability off of Amanda. Like, she has no agency in her life and she's just this sort of woman who gets taken for rides by men, which like she is Maybe she is.

And like, he—

but she's also like a 35-year-old woman who can make her own decisions.

Yeah, but like, she— maybe she is this weak sister and he knows that. He knows who she is. And so the person who came in to be there for her also wound up being the one to like take her away from her friends and tarnish her name. Like, I felt like it was a good point. It just puts like a lot of pressure on their relationship to work. And I felt like we were finally getting at that, which it's like, why did you risk it all Are you in love?

And we didn't get there.

No, no, no. But the questions were asked and like, how could you betray Sierra? And like, just to take it one step further, it's like, do you like West more than you like Sierra? Because that's what it is when you're choosing between pursuing West or keeping your friendship. You've chosen to pursue West because you like him more than your friendship with Sierra. Like, that's more important to you.

I don't even think she likes him more than— like, I just think she's just like, in, like, riding an impulse and giving into every sort of feeling that she has. Maybe that's like her post-divorce liberation, like, you know, I'm just going to, like, yeah, jump off a cliff.

Yeah. Anyways, I felt like the questions were asked and it felt less frustrating of, like, how this could possibly happen, what was going through your mind. Um, even if their answers fell short, which of course they did multiple times, um, they did seem to— they talked about all these conversations that they've had And they're starting to seem like they've gotten to a place where like they've had a conversation that like, if we're gonna give this a shot, like if we're doing all this, like we're giving it a real shot. Like this is something serious. Then they also dropped a trailer for like a bonus episode next week where there's a couple of conversations, West and Kyle, Amanda and Lindsay, Sierra and Mija.

Yeah. I feel like if any of it was like that groundbreaking or important, it wouldn't be relegated to some sort of like bonus episode.

It sounds like Kyle has a conversation with West and asks him like, are you in love with her? And West not only says yes, but says, I've been in love with her for a very long time. Like, thank you. Well, that— I mean, well, that's worth risking.

Yes, throwing your life away for, you know. Yeah, I do know. And throughout the episode, they're like poking holes in their relationship, right, through Mija and the lying. And Amanda's like, you've given me a lot to think about. But we know now, like, the two are still, you know going strong in a relationship. They're traveling together. They went to a family wedding together. She spat in his mouth, like the whole thing, even though I'm pretty sure they were like smoking pot and like, you know, that thing when you blow in someone's mouth. Like, that's just what I thought it was, cuz, cuz she like smokes pot. She's like cool, she's a cool girl like that. Um, so none of it penetrated, and maybe they did have these conversations. And I know that they're pushing Mija so hard, and I think like maybe there are people who are eating it up. I am not people. Um, although like the more we talk about it, like he had a girlfriend the entire summer and lied about about it. Like, he's just a really big liar.

Yeah, but— and here's what is unclear to me. So when he says, like, Mija thought we were exclusive, that she was— was that—

why did she think that?

Like, was that— were you guys exclusive and then you stepped out on her? Or like, she just had this belief and you had actually never had that conversation?

Did she think you were exclusive because you told her that, right?

Or like, she just assumed you're exclusive because like you're together all the time, so like you sort of fall—

how could you not be?

But like, I'm sorry, if you're together 10 months and you never actually said, like, confirmed that you're exclusive. I don't believe how you don't have that conversation one time. Yeah, the Mija stuff, for me, especially because it's like when he met Mija, Amanda was married. He obviously chose Mija for a while, and then as Amanda starts to, you know, become available, he started to throw Mija to the side. Like, yeah, that doesn't really complicate Amanda and West for me. It just shows like what a piece of shit West is, which We know that up until March 1st— oh no, sorry, April 1st, 2026— West Wilson did not want to have a relationship. He never, you know, he dragged girls around and led them on. We know that. But what they're saying is, as of the statement, things have changed. So the Mija thing doesn't change their story, really. She's like, it got a little messy when there was crossover, but I, I, I don't know. It's like Dino, you know?

It's like Dino.

It's like, I just don't care about the storyline that's not on my show.

Yeah, no, I, I'm aligned. And, um, I feel like when they went into the reunion, they were so obsessed with the timeline, and we still don't know the timeline fully, but I think they wanted to clear their names in terms of like having had an affair. And I just want to say, like, after all is said and done, I do not believe that they had any sort of inappropriate relationship. But what they were trying to decipher between was like them having a physical connection and an emotional connection. And it's like, well, yeah, they had an emotional connection because you all have fucking weird relationships with one another. So like, yeah, now it's weird, but it wasn't before because you guys all do this.

Yeah. And I'm glad that like everyone seems to come to the same page as that. Like Lindsay was saying, we don't think you guys were like having sex over the summer, even though they all think that like things were happening over the summer. But right, it was definitely an emotional affair. But yeah, it's harder to prove, it's subjective. But like, when was the first time they really like looked at each other and like—

so they said it was like when they were out, like sometime in March or whatever, where he looked at— yeah, when he looked at her and was like, am I crazy, or like, are we like in love?

Yeah, but like, is he saying that after months of like of knowing between them? You know what I mean? Of it going unsaid.

Well, I just want to say months of it going on unsaid, like, is fine. Like, you didn't say it. Like, you're not acting on it.

Like, you're not acting on it, but you're continuing to be with this— go out with this person. You're not fighting it.

You're not fighting it, right?

Right. You think that makes you, like, good because you're not acting on it, but you're actually, like, you're feeding it.

Yeah.

You're not walking away. These things are impossible to prove, and I feel like that's where we landed, right? That's where we landed. And, and so I think they are sort of absolved of like not having had any sort of like physical affair over the summer. I think that would be psychotic. But, and now when he says to Kyle in the next episode, I've been in love with her for a long time, like, are we talking years? Like years? Or maybe it's like you've always loved this person but never even thought of her in that way because she was married, and now that you have thought about her in that way, you realize it was like that the whole time. Yeah. Now you can see her in that light. Like, I don't know. I, I mean, they made it through. That was their goal. They made it through. They did the job. I understand completely numbing yourself with medication because the amount of the barrage of what they are about to receive on the reunion stage, it's, it's a lot. I know they're bad people, crazy people who don't care about their friends' feelings, but like, that's a a very— an experience that most human beings don't have.

Because if you betrayed your best friend, you yell at each other, you get to hide, you yell at each other, and then you never speak again. You don't sit on a stage for 12 hours hearing all this horrible stuff about yourself with the world watching. It's not a human experience. So if they want to numb themselves, I honestly can't blame them, especially for a girl who's weak and has mental health issues.

What— where do we go from here casting-wise? Like, for real, they're both out.

Personally, and I'm always wrong because I would— I've put Lexi on last season, so obviously, yeah, of course, whatever I say isn't gonna happen. Um, I think Sierra moves on because she's moved on. Like, not because she should be punished for West and Amanda in any way, but like, I think, I think she's beyond the show now. I think West and Amanda are the storyline. They just are.

I kind of agree. Like, they're crazy, and crazy is interesting.

West and Jesse building back, have a lot of friendship. There's a lot that can happen here. Kyle, that's really up to him if he wants to come back. I don't know if he has a—

oh my God, you're gonna have to take this house from the cold dead hands.

Yeah, Lindsay I think will be in the same place that she's been, but like, I, I think that narratively-wise, like, shifting to focus on like Amanda and Wes, like, because even if they stay together, it's crazy. If they break up, it's crazy. Like, that's where the story is.

Yeah, I feel like the audience hates them so much. Like, people are saying like, no, we don't want them, no, cancel, bring Sierra back. But like, I kind of want to see what those two crazy fucks are gonna get into. Yeah, although I don't know if they wanna— I could see Amanda like being done.

But people say she was with Kyle for so long and put up with all his shit because you wanted to be on TV, and so you're gonna give up now when you're the biggest name in the world?

But you're like the most hated name in the world. I don't know if people want that.

There's only one place to go. Up also. But Sierra leaving, like, doesn't make sense for Mia, and I think Mia should be back. But I, I like Sierra and Mia being together, but that's really her last sort of connection to the house.

No, but Mia can, can stand on her own, I think.

Yeah, but it was just— it was fun having them together. You can stand on her own, but I'm just like, oh, Sierra brought me into the house and now she's leaving. If she's leaving, I feel like— I don't know, I'll be curious to see what they do, but I do feel They're not all going to be together. Sierra's not going to be in a house with them, and I don't really see the show moving on from Kyle and— I mean, Amanda and West and, and Kyle, even everyone, you know. That's the story. That's the meat.

Perhaps an Amanda and West spin-off, Crazy in the City— In the City Crazy Edition.

Yeah, or it's just on In the City because In the City is her show.

Yeah, yeah, and they're a couple now and it's a show for couples.

Yeah, or it's just both. I just keep putting out episodes. I actually like— I, I the bonus episode idea. Like, I want more. Yeah, I do. I want more.

Yeah, yeah. And they're like— they're— it's very much giving like when Vanderpump Rules had this new gen, but the new gen was bad, and like the new gen here is good, but they have to figure out like who goes where and what goes where.

Yeah, but it's like watching Wes and Amanda like talk about them being in love and like their relationship, it's just like so foreign and crazy to me. Like, I still have not had enough of it.

No. And because they were so withdrawn and like so unemotional, they were also unemotional when talking about each other. And like, even West was like saying nice things, it felt like weird and cold because he was very withdrawn.

Yeah, like seeing them walk into the reunion together, it's just like, you know, was a crazy thing to see. So like, I'm still wanting to see this crazy thing that's happening. Yeah, it's like an attraction.

It's like a circus.

It is a train wreck. It is.

You can't look away.

Yeah, and so I'm, I'm still participating.

Yeah, I know that's like not the thing to say because everybody's like, cancel them, may they live and die. But you know what, like, I kind of want to see what those crazy kids get into.

Sorry, like, they did their jobs. Like, they were horrible people and friends and husbands and wives and boyfriends. Of course they were great workers.

It's true. Give them a life.

Give them a promotion.

They gave life to the show. They But I do think that the, the, uh, network like often sides with the audience. So like the audience hates them, everyone's like, cancel them off my screens. So I feel like they're just not going to be invited back.

Okay, I'll leave it to them. But I'm just saying, they did—

you're the experts—

they did their jobs.

Yep, you do yours.

Like really, how could the network be mad at them? They should be sending them flowers and saying thank you and giving them a raise.

It's the same with Scandal. That show was like seriously in the gutter. People forget, but it was like minutes for every time. Like in the, the most recent seasons before that, it was like, is this show still on? It was so dire. And even Scandal, which was immensely helpful, only gave them like 1 or 2 more seasons. But it wasn't—

Summer House wasn't even dire, but things were about to change. You know, they're all crying, they're leaving, everyone knows like most people aren't coming back, and the city's happening.

And the house is being sold.

Yeah. And now we've just like breathed new life into it. But also like with Vanderpump Rules, it was like the seniors graduated and we hadn't even met the freshmen yet. So it was like there wasn't a connection.

It was so much change also. Like they actually did a very good job of blending in this new young generation of people.

Jesse and Dara and Wes. And we know them and we're sticking with them because we're invested already. So whether or not Kyle and Lindsay are there, like we're still watching the show. So this has been done much better. Yeah, and I don't think it's the same. And Amanda and West are the old and the new guard.

Yes, they are.

So it's—

so they could go on either show.

I think I should have said this at the reunion. I think what you all mean to say is thank you.

Thank you.

They, they owe her a thank you.

Yeah, this also has cemented Summer House, which was always like one of the smaller, younger shows of Bravo. It has cemented it as like one of the greats now. I imagine, I imagine it has higher ratings than most of the other shows. Yeah, they're talking about it on red carpets. Like, everyone's being asked, are you team Manda? Like, it's a thing now.

Is that even a question?

Are you team— no, yeah, they're not asking that. They're asking like, are you watching Summer House?

Yeah, yeah. So we'll see you next week for the bonus Jonas. Oh right, are you ready for our next story? Yes. Taylor Swift surprises fans at the premiere of Toy Story 5 with a performance of her new song and a bonus duet. So Taylor showed up at the LA premiere of Toy Story 5. She performed I Knew It, I Knew You, um, accompanied herself with the piano. And then she also sang You've Got a Friend in Me with Randy Newman, and they did a little duet.

It was like seriously so fucking cute. First of all, she looked insane. Like, you know, she's doing Sodom Method arms, like she's doing those bridal arms. Her arms looked so toned, like she's just so wedding ready because, you know, she's like getting married. It could be any day now, but allegedly July 3rd. She looked insane. I love this sort of like family-friendly Brantley Vera, you know, Toy Story. I, I'm curious if Chet Hanks came with Tom because I just like— I know that if he did, like, they would have met and really gotten along because he plays like basically a Travis Kelce version on that show.

Travis there?

No, she went with her mom and her brother.

Oh, Travis been there to support her.

And you know, I've been on Ticketmaster like all morning, and I was like scrolling looking for the, um, thing, and it said, uh, might be interested. I think New Heights is like going on tour, like doing live shows.

Oh yeah, they're doing a live show like next week, and that's why people are like they're not getting married then, because they're not getting married June 13th because there's a live show.

Okay, that like is a good reason not to get married.

Yeah. I also feel like she wore two dresses. She wore a red carpet dress, and then she wore the yellow dress for her performance, and I feel like um, probably even unintentionally, that these are maybe like teasers of what her bridal look will be like. Because I do find when you are in your bridal era, like, you are gravitating towards a certain silhouette. And so even her red carpet dress with the off-the-shoulder, like, I would not be surprised if, if something about this is what her bridal look will be.

Yeah. And I think that often her wardrobe is like indicative of whatever era is coming next. And I think that all of her outfits have been like very bridal, very soft, very feminine, like very Hill House almost. And if that's the esthetic for era number 107, wherever we're at, um, love that.

Yeah, she looks insanely beautiful. And I do think like the next album, if we're thinking about like the seasons that she's in and how they like reflect her life, like her next album is the love album.

It's Lover. That's what Lover was supposed to be.

Yeah, but like, no, but Lover, like this is like just like love songs, you know. Lover is like, I guess she turned it into like this like girly pop whatever. But like this would be like the, the love songs album.

Yeah, yeah. Um, that's very thrilling. Like, I also think it could be like her sort of like settling down album, I hope, right?

Well, this has— is the settling down happening yet, or it's just like, you know, the romance and the—

got a couple kids, got the whole block looking like—

yeah, but that's the wish list. Are we checking?

And now it's time, like, to— yeah, she's making a list and checking it twice to have Travis Kelce's babies, to take the Kelces down. Down.

Absolutely. So I think this outing for Taylor, I think that skips over, like, just this one era of just, like, being in her feminine.

Yeah, right. In her— right, right. True love, you're in love, you can hear it in the silence. I loved this little outing for Taylor. It was so fun, like, such a slay to perform with Randy Newman. You just remember what your old pal said. Like, I just fucking love this whole thing. And I love the song for Toy Story. I've been listening to it a lot.

Yeah, I just want to say thank you to Taylor and the whole Toy Story team because it has been successfully implemented. Everyone's so excited about the Jessie song, Toy Story 5, that that, you know, I had to explain comes out in a few weeks. It's not out yet. That's like a little confusing, but it's fine. That is confusing. It's like, wait, what are we looking at? Like this— there's a 5, where's the movie? Yeah, what's Jesse talking about? But I'm just like, in a couple weeks. Um, and we are successfully listening to Taylor Swift in the car because it is Carly to Toy Story. So thank you so much everyone involved.

Um, also Taylor brought a VHS copy. It must be like her original home version of the Toy Story original movie, and she had all like the original um, castmates like Tom Hanks, Tim Allen sign it, which I know she doesn't need the money, but she could sell that for a pretty penny.

And who plays Jessie? Joan Cusack?

I don't know, because I saw Joan Cusack there with Taylor, and I said, oh, she's in Toy Story.

Yes, she is Jessie.

Hmm, cute. I feel like at the time, it's— I feel it's similar to Shrek, that like if you were a celebrity and there was like this new Disney cartoon movie and they asked you to do The Voice. Maybe some people passed on it, maybe some people didn't. You had no idea that this was going to be like the thing that retires you. It's now on their 5th movie. I think like everybody who's involved in Toy Story is like a multi-multi-millionaire many times over because of it. And I just— there's probably someone who passed on it who was like, I don't want to do this like kids movie. Meanwhile, $100 million. It's like Shrek. Everybody from, from Shrek retired. Cameron Diaz, $100 million here, $200 million there.

Like a I think of like Frozen too. Like, Frozen— why does she still work so hard?

1,000%. Josh Gad is wealthy. Like, he is personally wealthy.

Yeah, Idina Menzel— like, that was seriously the biggest movie of all time.

And there are lots of Disney movies that are super popular, but they aren't like these enormous franchises where like there's theme parks and like—

no. Yeah, all of them are sort of like a flash in the pan. It's always going to be a good payday, but there were a couple that just storied franchises. Billion dollars.

Yeah, and I think the most recent one is probably Frozen.

Yeah, yeah, Frozen was a cultural reset.

Frozen was a cultural reset.

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? What number? Great question. Number 3. Yeah, I'm ready. Number 3. Joshua Bassett is on Carl Radke's podcast talking about his past drug addiction.

A sentence I seriously never thought I'd hear.

Yeah, from multiple angles. But Joshua Bassett says fame came with a dark side he never saw saw coming, revealing his substance abuse spiraled so badly at one point he believes he shouldn't have survived it. So he joined the More Life with Carl Radke podcast and got brutally honest about a chapter of his life that was happening behind the scenes while his career was taking off. He says things reached a breaking point when he was 23, admitting, 'It should have killed me, the level of substance.' Um, he doesn't stop there. He goes on to detail just how consumed he was by drugs, describing a daily routine that revolved around getting his next and shutting him off from the outside world. How he would like wake up at 2:30 and go to the ATM because his drug dealer started work at 3, would take out as much money from the ATM as he could, spent all of that, like his daily limit, spent all of it with the drug dealer at 3 o'clock. Cocaine, everything, used it all until he fell asleep, slept till 2:55 the next day, went to the ATM, drug dealer again and again and again.

Yeah, you know what, I feel like Carl Radke having this podcast, which I, I think it's like very slowly becoming, at first it was like different reality stars and influencers, more Summer House, but like him veering into a space where like celebrities or well-known people talk about like addiction and substance abuse, I actually think is like a very niche podcast that doesn't exist. And he's probably a really good person to do it. I think it would be good for Softbar. Um, so I like this journey for him and his podcast. I had no idea Joshua Bassett struggled like that. Did he say when this was?

When he was 23. Um, when he was like coming up in his career, so that must have been like, like post-Driver's License, 2 years ago.

So yeah, yeah, damn.

Yeah, really sad. No, Carl's— Carl has a really good team behind him. Like, not just— not just like he has a great podcast, but like his branding, his like brand, the Carl brand is like very on point. The, the visuals and the messaging around the podcast podcast is very legitimate. You know, a lot of people have a podcast and it's like just random, um, but everything with him feels very intentional. He has like a very good branding.

I agree. No, everything he does also feels elevated, right? Like, it's like legit. And I also am happy to say I feel like Karl has also proved a lot of his detractors wrong, myself included. Like, I thought Softbar was stupid. I thought he was like a like I'm not a smart, like, good person. Um, and I, I'm— I feel as though I was wrong.

Yeah, I think it's like the person that he wanted to be at that time though, like doing a soft bar and, you know, just a soft man, like in general, like, is still— even though he accomplished the things that like Lindsay thought he wouldn't accomplish, Lindsay didn't want to be with that person. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah. And I definitely like saw him through Lindsay's eyes, and I think at the time like she thought poorly of him.

Yeah.

As like a partner and a business person, and just like a— she's looking for more alpha.

Yeah, but even when she sees all of his success now, I don't think any of it makes her feel like, oh, he did do it and I should be with him. I think it's like, if you always wanted to be this person, you were never the right person for me.

And I don't think he would have been able to have become this person if she hadn't sort of lit a fire under him to really prove her wrong.

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

So I didn't see this like becoming his shtickerini, but I like it.

Yeah, it's just so crazy. I didn't watch the early seasons of Summer House, but like even when you watch clips or they show stuff of Carl like from back in the day, like that he's a completely different person and such a testament to the fact that like people can change.

100%. He was like this real douche lord asshole. He used to hook up with every girl in the house.

He hooked up with Paige.

Yeah, and Now he's just like this big softie, friend to all.

He's Mr. Softie.

Oh, you know what got me thinking, going back to Taylor Swift performing with Randy Newman? You've Got a Friend in Me really reminds me of her song It's Nice to Have a Friend. They should have done some sort of mashup.

Oh, cute.

Like, they sound similar, obviously. Like, the messaging is the same.

Yeah, I think they were standing— like, staying on message. It wasn't becoming the Iris Tour mashup. Up.

Secret song? Yeah, no secret song. Um, and I'm sure like he's like an older gentleman, he just like wanted to remember the words to his own song.

Yeah, and he did a great job. It was very cute. They were like bantering.

Slay Randy!

Are you ready for our next story?

I am.

Katy Perry calls Justin Trudeau the love of her life and says she feels anchored by their romance.

So I'm really ready to talk about this.

She was at the Tribeca Film Festival for the premiere for concert film Katy Perry: The Lifetime Tour Live from Paris., and she spoke about her relationship with the former prime minister.

Uh, now I just want to say, like, not to make this about me, when I was driving home from watching the Knick game, there was like a line of people waiting outside on the West Side Highway, and there was like a marquee that said Katy Perry: The Lifetime Story. I was like, what the fuck is going on? I had no idea it was even Tribeca Film Festival, and I certainly didn't know that she had a movie coming out. Although her track record for celebrity documentaries is 1 for 1. She makes her Part of Me part-time documentary, part-time music video. It's one of the greatest pieces of media in modern times.

Yes, but this is live from Paris, so I feel like it's mostly the show and less like a documentary. But this is what she said. She said, I feel like a more grounded person in so many aspects of my life. I'm very in love, and actually that show was after I met the love of my life, and so I felt very anchored by that because I'm a little bit like a rainbow kite. I fly super high and touch the veil cosmos, and sometimes I need to be anchored. So to have that anchor finally makes me feel really whole now.

Okay, I'm ready to talk about this because obviously an unlikely pairing, right? And I think once the shock wore off, like, I'm able to seriously like think about it and talk about it critically. And I just have to say, like, I ship so unbelievably hard. I feel like he made— like, this relationship is so bizarre because like they're like two kind of polarizing figures, right? Like, he's a prime minister. What's more polarizing than that. And she is like this freaky deaky pop star who went to space and like everybody can't seem to stop hating on. And I feel as though this relationship has neutralized both of their public personas.

Two negatives make a positive.

1000%. Like, I ship so hard. They look so happy. Like, and it's just like kind of a slay. She was with Orlando Bloom. It's hard to, you know, date after that. Like, it's Orlando Bloom. And to go a completely different route and go with like a former prime minister It's a very elite choice, and I have a lot of respect for Katy Perry now. I just want to say, I think that this is going to be huge for her.

Yeah, I think that now that the dust has settled and like they're in as in love as they've ever been, they actually remind me a little bit—

let me think, let me think— Taylor and Travis. No, give me a clue.

Um, two people who we've come like probably the biggest ship in the sea. I don't know if you're gonna get it.

Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian?

No, I'll just say Jeff and Lauren Bezos Sanchez.

It's an amazing comparison.

Um, together forever, like really an inspiring, age-appropriate, age-appropriate love story.

Um, cross-genre, like politics, business.

He lifts her up, she lifts him up.

I also think they run in a similar circle as Lauren and Jeff. Maybe that's why you Yeah, I love this. Like, First Lady of Canada, he needs to run for Prime Minister again.

That's what she is. I mean, that would be the only thing to like make it cooler if he was like still employed.

No, no, because you want to know why? Like, when you're an active politician, like, you're very criticized because politics can be so divisive.

Take this to the next level. Like, she's in her First Lady era, like, she has to, you know, it would just be like a movie, you know. Now they're just like a bunch of kids running. No, I disagree.

I disagree. I think it makes it like more criticized. Like she doesn't need anything that's divisive. Like she's been sort of this lightning rod for a couple of years. She just needs like everyone, once you're done being like the president or the prime minister, you sort of fade into like this like bubble retirement. Like nobody criticizes you anymore. Like everybody loves you. Remember Ellen and George Bush? Like you, it's good to be a retired politician. Mm-hmm. It's hard to be an active politician.

Oh, they're definitely like having more fun in this capacity, but it just would've been so high stakes if he were still.

Yeah, but I'm talking about like Q score-wise. I think it's better that he's not because like they both suffered.

They should hang out with Harry and Meghan too, like former diplomat.

Yes, can they have Canada— Canadian connections?

Struggling with the Q score but in love.

Yeah, all they have is love over at As Ever Farms Incorporated.

They actually should be best friends.

Well, there are a lot of people that Harry and Meghan like should be really tight with post royalty moving to Montecito, and the fact that they haven't become friendly with like any of the people we thought that they would— they never hang out with the Obamas, like we thought they were gonna be at that level.

Um, it's definitely weird. I think Harry and Justin—

Justin Trudeau—

would, um, be good friends. They're both just like random, you know? Sure. Like, I feel like they have the same interests, like the environment, whatever.

They both love the environment for sure.

Um, Katie and Meghan, I could see it being like oil and water, you know.

They seem—

absolutely, they seem like they're actually very different, which might make them, you know, Katie would be the one to bring her out of her shell, right? Or hate.

No, I don't see those two getting along. I don't think it's a good match. But I think we're just comparing them because they are similar now with like the Justin Trudeau. They're at a —a different level of fame where it's like you're bordering on like global geopolitical issues.

Yeah, but also like everybody hates you.

Everybody hates you. Yeah, so they have that in common as well.

Yeah, but once you get to a certain level, like everybody hates you. Jeff and Lauren—

I wonder if the Lifetime documentary, like, if at all—

is it just a concert? She said this is very different from Part of Me. That was more of a documentary about my life, and this is a really a concert experience about at the highest level for the fans. Fans.

Well, you know what, like, this was such a criticized tour. We forget because so much has happened since then, but like, that's when she was running around in her like galactic outfits, like being crazy. Um, I would like to see this just to know like what actually happened on that tour. I saw the crazy clips, but I imagine there was other stuff.

Yeah. Oh, they were at an event with Harry and Meghan at the Beef Season 2 Montecito Tastemaker event in April.

Okay, that's like— I thought you were gonna say the, like, Montecito x Netflix.

Like, that is so Harry and Meghan. Yeah. Okay, well, um, good luck to them. Godspeed. You officially have a little ship. Let's see how you do.

No, you have some, some momentum behind you. Don't fuck it up.

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Yeah, which is confusing because I voted today, and but when I went to bed it wasn't up yet, so I was like, oh, I probably missed it. I checked this morning And I was like, oh, that's weird, cuz I feel like they have to do it really quickly. I feel like it's like a 2-hour window to vote. Yeah, usually because they have to have the recoupling, edit the episode, and air it. Yeah, so maybe the recoupling— okay, so— oh, well, there's no episodes on Wednesdays. Okay, so the recoupling probably happens tonight and we watch it tomorrow.

But also, they're ahead of us. I think there's going to be another episode and then a recoupling. Yeah. Yeah, okay, I'm fine with that. And that's what happened with like Pepe and Hannah, where it's like we voted, we put them together because we thought she liked him, and then in the next episode she got back with Charlie, and we're like, well, fuck, we voted for you, we thought you liked him.

The delay does really— so maybe like Melanie and Sincere will have this like redemptive moment, 1,000%, or like Kenzie and Corbin will decide they're in love. No, the only one I could see is really is is, um, Melanie and Sincere.

Like, because the thing is, even if they decide they want to be together, I don't want them together. So that's why I'm happy to be able to step in, even though I'm not voting, I'm not filming.

Yeah, I like the voting because it's the only, like, chance we have at accountability. Like, sorry, Beatrice, like, is really not trying hard enough with, with anyone. Like, she's a little too settled. She doesn't talk to anyone. She's kind of condescending because she's, like, in this, like, relationship. Meanwhile, she doesn't know she's, like, the freakiest man ever who's, like, making out with everyone. I—

she has no idea what's going on.

She has no idea. Also, like, can I talk about something when it comes to Beatrice? And like, I don't know what it's like to have a prosthetic leg, so like, I don't know how I would act, but she makes so many jokes about it. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with like, you know, you can't be the butt of the joke if you're making the joke. And like, I, I get that totally, but I find it very off-putting.

Oh, I only heard one joke.

Um, I've heard at least three.

Okay, cuz maybe I wasn't paying attention, but she made like one. I thought it was a funny joke, like it's just funny. Which— when she was like, with the girls. Yeah, she was saying how the other girls, you know, they have like, well, I don't have blonde hair, big boobs, and I have one leg. Like, it was—

she said it now though, 3 times. Yeah. Okay, I don't know. I don't know what the right way to talk about not having a leg is because like, that's just not been my experience. But, um, I find it a little Strange.

I think it didn't bother me. I actually thought it was funny and like lighthearted and just the first time I thought that too.

She's just being— the first time she said it, I was like, you know what, good for her.

Yeah, I wonder if I kept hearing it, but I only heard the one and I was like, oh, that's just like funny.

Like, it was funny the first time. Haha. Um, so I watched the episode. I watched 2 episodes. We had that crazy ass orgy challenge, which was insane, and it just gave me insane respect for who I already respected the most, which is my girl Anaya, but also Kada. They were the only two who didn't hump and kiss every guy until they found their guy.

And it's like, they never said you have to kiss everyone until you know who you're kissing. It's like, you can touch their— so the hair, by the way, you could get it in 2 seconds. Everybody has different hair.

So I feel like they were told not to touch their hair, and the only person I saw touch hair is Melanie, which is how she knew it was sincere. And then she knew it was Corbin.

A couple people touched hair briefly, but yes, it— they, they definitely like were asked to not focus on the hair, but like like you could have just given like a swipe and you would know immediately.

Yeah.

And some of them, like everybody, some did lightly touch hair, so like they were able to know. In shower caps.

Oh, that's good. Yeah. Um, so Kada, who was already like high up on my list, and Anaya, who was already high up on my list— like queens, queens, queens, queens. Except like, what was— I wasn't fully following like what went wrong with Kada and Zach. It's really awkward.

Okay, so she acted like a respectful queen Yes, the whole time. The whole time. And then when the new bombshell came, he hooked up with— he made out with everyone. They sort of did a big one. She wrapped her— like, she was on her back, she wrapped her legs around him. Wasn't just like, you know, the obligatory 'I have to make out with the bombshell.' And Zach was like, 'Okay, okay.' And so like the guy kept going a little bit longer, so it was just like an oversized one for a girl who's like in—

but now he's like pulling other people for chats.

No, he's, he's being really like, he's punishing her too much for it.

Yeah, he should have taken that opportunity to close off. Like, I know everyone's like, like afraid of closing off. I don't know why, but like they're so obsessed with one another and like, yeah, it's pissing him off that she's with another guy. I feel like that's a sign that you're ready to close off. Like, why is everybody so against closing off? No, and he wasn't.

He was like ready to close off, but then I think like he was just like very, um, I don't want to say hurt, but I think like his ego was bruised that like this other guy like got to have that moment with his girl. But he doesn't really have a, like, a place to talk because they— those boys sat on the bed, made out with everyone in the house plus two new bombshells while their girls were sitting. Like, she's literally right there sitting there blindfolded. Like, everybody misbehaved. That was like—

that's what I don't understand about the show, which is like, why is some things a bigger deal than others? Like, everybody's humping the whole time. So everything in a— I understand Melanie. I understand Melanie, why everyone's upset with her, because it's like, you knew you had sincere, and so you kept kissing Corbin. That was disgusting. That was fucking crazy. Um, yeah, I seriously— she was the prettiest girl when she got here, and now like I find her insides to be so ugly that like she is no longer my top. No, not at all.

I want her still on the show though because she's like so entertaining. But like, I just— I think Sincere is one of the best guys so far, and they should not be together. No, everything in a challenge—

it's literally Jeremiah and Huda.

Everything in a challenge is in bounds. Like, you can make out with everyone, but then there are people who take it to another level, and we see that sometimes, like Huda an ace in a heart rate challenge. Like, and you see it by everybody's reaction. So the guy came in, he makes out with everyone, that's fine. But the fact that she's like, you know, on her back with her legs— they did a big one. And it's like, but you're my girl and you acted like that with the bombshell. But like, after what had just gone down, I just think he really needs to let it go. I understand he was like bummed that night. She felt really bad. I think she like realized, oh, this is more serious than I thought and I shouldn't be like acting that way. But for him to like punish her into the next day, pull back, say he doesn't actually want to be closed off— like, I think he pulled someone for a chat. He's being like a little controlling at this point. It's getting a little ugly. His red flag.

And you can see she's heartbroken. I know. And like, also, no offense, when there is such a disparity in looks— like, she's so fucking hot and he's like very fine looking— he needs to act right. Like, you can't be acting like that when the girl's much hotter than you.

No, but she— at this point, it doesn't matter. She likes him a lot because she likes him so much. I know it's not like when she came in and she was the bombshell. And it's crazy how like when you're the bombshell, you're like the shiniest, most attractive thing, and then like after— and 2 seconds later, 2 days, you're like old used goods. Like, it's true, looking at you, it's so crazy.

So the 2 new bombshells, Sol and Jen— I do feel like Jen is pro— I guess like the girl who's going home, a girl, right?

I don't Yeah, because the girls got to go last time. So like Beatrice could go home, but we're coupling people up, so we're gonna like put Jen and Gabriel. Oh, so maybe no one will go home yet, just like Huda didn't go home because Jeremiah— so like, Beyoncé or Melanie, and then Vulnerable or Melanie, because Caleb will have to choose someone, and Melanie.

No, Caleb will have to choose someone. Caleb— not Caleb, sorry, uh, Corbin will have to choose someone.

No, why would he? He'll be single and vulnerable.

Oh yeah, I guess. Okay, I don't really understand how these things work.

Sometimes it's a recoupling but no one goes home. Sometimes it's— so yes, Jen will go with Gabriel. I don't know who else people would vote for her to be with. Oh, I guess she spoke to Zach. If people don't like Kada, they'll—

do people not like Kada? No, people are rooting for Kada. Okay, great.

Right, so please keep Jen with Gabriel. Soul and Sincere, I love them, I love them.

Let me tell you about this girl Soul. You have to have like insane confidence to go on a show like this with no hair, and I think you actually have to have insane confidence to walk through life as just a woman with no hair. We put so much emphasis on hair. I could never fucking do it. When I tell you, like, her aura is elite, like she doesn't give a fuck. She has the most insane body. I saw somebody on Twitter I was like, Sol's body's so insane, it makes me want to go to the gym. Like, it's literally— she has such a body tea, as the kids say. Um, and she's kind of radiant. Like, I, I really like her. And I think that Sincere also has— because the way people talk about him, and you see it on the show— I think he has this like amazing aura as well. Like, a great personality, really nice guy. Like, he's a oldest of 5 siblings, like a real man. And he's very sincere, of course. I think that They're an elite duo.

Let me tell you, if these two couple up, I will vote for them to win the show.

Yeah, except— no, sorry, Anaya and Casey. Except Anaya's like—

this is a— no, Anaya and Casey are on thin ice, you know? They're one bombshell away from destruction.

I know, except like, she was kind of pissing me off because like, she was being—

I understand why she's looking for problems. No, no, I understand why she's hurt, but you can't be a fabissima, put them crying around the villa all day. Nobody wants to be around chat complaining. It was like, it was better. It was secure. That's what Melanie did, and it makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like, well, yeah, no, I don't want to be with you if all of our chats are just you telling me what I did wrong. And I understand— me, Jackie, understands that what Casey did was wrong and it hurts your feelings, but like, you have to put on a, a happy face because you don't just want to be like the girl crying all day. Nobody wants to be in a relationship with that.

And like, was it raining all day? The weather was like so off. I didn't notice. Oh, you didn't? I thought it was like so crazy that it was cloudy.

Oh, I saw some waves, but I liked it. I was happy for them to get a nice—

and then somebody was like, it's quite breezy in it.

I like that. I'm happy for them in the wind. So anyways, and yeah, I feel like Casey— if like, if a bombshell— like, we're locked in on Casey. Like, right now, Sol and Jen like aren't really like— he's not their number one, so it's like not an issue. But I feel like he might deviate, and they're not as strong. They're just strong right now because nothing's come between them.

Yes, they're not strong enough, and she is not like, um, like bold. And I could see that if her relationship was threatened, she would probably just end up going home because she's not like a mover or shaker in the house. She doesn't like start drama, she doesn't yell. That's why I like her. Like, she's very normal, um, and normal doesn't do well here. Hi Sean and Jaylen!

But a bombshell could come in, turn Casey's head he goes down that path and then he realizes that it's Anaya for him, and then, oh, they would be set. But like, they haven't had any sort of test yet, and I just— I could see him passing the test, I could see him failing the test. But so insincere. If they, you know, if they make a go of it, they just seem like they could go on and on.

Who do you think is going to be the first couple to close off? I do feel like this saga between Kaida and Zach, even though it's like been a red flag I think it probably will lead them, because like the logical thing is like, I didn't like that you were with another guy, but you have to be with other guys because that's what we're here to do. Hmm, if only was there— if there was a way for you to not be with other guys. Like, it's sort of the logical place to land.

Yeah, but he's not seeing it that way. He's like, I don't want to close off with you because you're not someone who like would treat me with more respect. It was low-key manipulative. It was, it was. And I felt really bad for her because obviously she doesn't give a shit about Caleb. She was just like putting on because because it's like funny.

That's what you're supposed to do. You have to like cheer when there's a text. Like, yeah, you have to do these things.

Yeah. And it's like, oh, all of a sudden I did too much.

Like, Bryce and Trinity know each other.

Oh yeah, from the modeling world.

That was weird. Like, what are the odds? But like, I guess Ace and Shelly knew each other.

Yeah, I think it's a small world when you're an Instagram model.

Like, of Thotland.

Uh, Bryce and Trinity are adorable. Adorable.

I don't know if there's like a huge romantic connection there, but they're definitely really good friends and they're having a lot of fun.

Yeah, but if they can like— if they can turn romance, they could win. Yeah, they could win. I think they're very beloved.

Yes, they are. The fans like, like ride for Trinity.

Why am I getting the feeling that Kenzie likes Corbin more than she likes Caleb?

Oh no, I feel like she's down with Corbin. Oh, he's gone. Like, I think that it was very convenient for there to have been like a really attractive bombshell and her to have been like one of the only single gals and he was interested in her. Like, it was truly a situation, like a connection of convenience.

No, but like, he liked her too and she liked— oh, he, by the way, he likes— they're the only ones making out in the bed at night.

Well, it's new, you know, it's always fun to make out when it's new.

Tomorrow they won't make out. But you know what, if Corbin is single and Melanie is single, I think they should give it a shot. They like have their eyes on each other. Sure, Corbin is freaky.

Like, I don't know, I can't get a read on him.

No, and like, his personality just stinks. Like, it's just like— that's so mean. It's just like crazy how like when he came in and he starts talking about his like life, it was just a red flag. I feel like for everyone, like, you're not being genuine, you're ChatGPT. Like, this is not real. Meanwhile, Caleb comes in and there's no question. Like, he's just talking like, and it's just himself. And most people are like that, even sincere, talking about how he wants to go on a road trip to nowhere.

Like, okay, like, just— and she was like, like, drive aimlessly? And he was like, yeah, like, drive aimlessly. I love that. They're perfect for each other.

But like, Corbin doesn't say anything.

No, but he did say that he wanted to, you know, experiment with handcuffs and blindfolds. He's freaky as fuck. Like, I agree, he doesn't really offer anything substantial. He doesn't have deep conversations. And I think that like, when you're spending all fucking day with these people, I think it gets boring really quickly if you're not having actual conversations.

And people's looks go out the window so fast. 1,000%. Like, you're genuinely— does not matter what you look like. And the girls look so cute every day. And I'm like, when Melanie put on her I'm gonna get my man back outfit, like with her bathing suit and her hat, I'm like, you look adorable, you've got this. And it's like, it doesn't matter what you look like.

Yeah, it's true. Like, the looks get stripped away. That's why bombshells like burn bright and fast, because it's something new. But it very quickly— like, your personality is kind of everything when you're spending all all fucking day with these people. And you do then just find yourself attracted to people with attractive personalities.

Yeah, but I guess for like bombshells who come in, they might look at the old villagers, like if someone there is their type and they want to get to know— that's the only way how you can be seen again is from someone that's out.

Yeah, fresh eyes. Totally. It's your only chance at like truly like glimmering for a minute. It just seriously looks horrible, like the experience.

I'm sorry, I could never go on the show. These people who do this show have earned every single follower, dollar, fame, opportunity that they get. This show is a humiliation ritual.

Absolutely. It is torture too. Like, it is truly a form of intellectual, spiritual, physical, and mental torture.

There were like eliminations where the couples had to like choose choose couples to go home. Like, when the Islanders have to choose each other, and it's like not just like a bombshell we don't know, it's like you have to choose like you're the person who's been with—

no, it's like when you— when you're like a hostage and then the hostage holder makes one of the hostages kill another hostage. Like, that's literally what it feels like.

That's what it feels like to them. Like, they go through so much to be on the show, and like even all the agony, the makeouts, and, and they're porn stars.

Yeah. Oh, you know, I was thinking that when they were, um, getting ready for the challenge, they all got on the bed and they filmed them in slow motion, like in the white lingerie, like throwing pillows at each other, and they're like zooming in on people's cheeks. I'm like, it's so crazy, you graduated nursing school last week and now you are like an adult film entertainer. Yeah. And, and a lot of them come in with like jobs like, I make elevators. I'm like, well, you also do porn.

Like, yeah, it's crazy, you do porn. But it's not like sometimes porn stars, like, they don't have to also, you know, be on-camera personalities. And like, they're doing all of this, like talking, doing their make— they're a makeup artist, they're hairstylist.

No, but It's just funny because like, you know, a brand would never do a brand deal with a porn star, like, but you'll do a brand deal with somebody from Love Island. Like, it's the same thing.

Yeah, no, but it's— porn is a part of the job for sure, but it's not the whole part. It's not the whole thing. So like, they're doing a lot, they deserve it all. Agreed. And they're risking a lot because you could end up like Sean, who gave it all up for nothing. For nothing.

You see, Jalen posted about John. He posted the Spider-Man meme, like two Spider-Mans pointing at each other, Jalen and John, and he said, keep your head up, brother, something like that.

Maybe he'll be married by the end of the year.

It's true, anything can happen.

But it, it's more about— so about the, the police force and the job, of course, and the mayor and the unemployment.

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