Transcript of Knicks in Five: Thursday, June 11th, 2026 New

Good morning, girlies! It's The Toast! It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts! It's your favorite show, the fast 5 things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's The Toast! I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday! Thursday, or should I say Jersey Day? Because I don't know, I saw a lot of jerseys last night. Welcome to The Toast. It's your episode post-Nicks, post-Euphoria, and the most happenstance, the most beautiful journey, the most whimsical sort of sequence of events. So Jackie's out today, so I'm joined by not only my husband, not only my business partner and life partner, but the biggest Knicks fan you've ever met in your whole life, and actually one of the 20,000 attendees of last night's historic NBA Finals game. Hey, Ben, how you doing?

I, I must correct you.

Like, seriously, how are you doing?

You said post-Euphoria, and I don't— I want you to know, I'll— I don't know when I'll be post-Euphoria. I'm getting FaceTime calls like I'm Eric Adams.

No, it feels like it's literally your, um—

it's my team.

It's your birthday.

I'm the mayor. I'm James Dolan. I own the team. Last night was the worst night of my life turned greatest night of my life. I, I left, I left and I went into the Grand Concourse and got 3 rolls of delicious sushi, by the way. Shout out Tao. What they do at that stadium to have really good quality sushi. Okay, everybody's like, you eating sushi at the stadium? Like, yeah, it's fucking Tao. Yeah, it was really good.

Amazing food at the Garden.

But I was stress eating. I, I inhaled those rolls. We're looking at each other, we're down fucking 30. I'm like, what are we doing here?

Okay, so there is a vlog coming and I am going to get it out today for Patreon. I vlogged the whole experience of us trying to get tickets on Monday, getting the tickets today, the actual game, the highs, the lows, the eating. It was such a journey. We were both there last night at the Garden. It felt like seriously nothing else was going on in the world except for the Knicks game last night. There were so many celebrities in attendance, which we're going to talk about. I want to say the pre-Fast Five banner, the stories, it's all NBA. Like there's not even one other story worth talking about. Oh, there's a little drama with Summer House, which we'll talk about. And I also want to talk about Jesse Solomon. But literally the world was watching last night and we were there. And when the game started and in the first quarter and the second quarter, like, like genuinely like just bad basketball, like I actually could have done a better job myself. And the Knicks were just like really getting stunted on Victor Wembanyama was like seriously being so annoying. When I tell you vibes were so low.

They were horrible.

Oh my God. And I kind of wanted to leave. I was like, do we have to stay the whole time when they're down by almost 30 points? Like, no, right? We can leave.

We could have left. And I actually got— I got texts. Jack texted me. He's like, please tell me you stayed, right? Because I've left games like that. Like, when you're down 30, sometimes it's just not your night. You can't leave Game 4 of the NBA Finals, especially.

Here's the thing, you can't leave the playoffs when it's like that.

They also—

regular game, sure. But no, by the way, Nobody left.

There was not one because it was so early. We went down so early. It wasn't like, okay, it's the middle of the fourth quarter, we're down 30 and it's dead. We were down 30, literally we blinked. Yeah. And we were down 29.

Yeah, it was really, um, it wasn't like this one moment where like everything turned around. They were just chipping away. They were down by 29 and then it was 28 and then it was 27. It was kind of fucking painful. And the whole time I was like, they're definitely going to come back and like be like an almost almost win, but never in my life did I think that they were actually going to win. When I tell you, I thought that the garden, like the building, was going to lift up off the ground. Like, people were screaming. And Ben takes this shit so seriously. This is like the most important thing in his life. And he was literally— it was just an arena full of people like Ben, like seriously holding their heads in shame, crying, excited. Like, the emotions were so extreme.

This is deep cut childhood trauma. Like, people— no, no, really, people have— I'm so fortunate I have the greatest family, greatest parents. I don't have any of that, like, traditional— like, Josh and I talk about this all the time. Like, Josh has some childhood trauma. I have trauma with the Knicks. I swear to God, I've been a fan my entire life.

No, you don't have childhood trauma. Yes, I do. Not be dramatic.

You don't have childhood trauma. Yes, I do.

Yes, I do. Your parents are still married.

Okay. 17 and 65. I watched every single game. The Knicks in 2015 were 17 and 65. Those were my boys.

Like, people get molested. Like, please don't even think about— don't even compare.

Okay, you could have let me make the comparison. You had to bring it dark. You had to bring it dark. You could have let me. Okay, I have childhood trauma from being a Knicks fan, and let me tell you, I was healed.

That's a better way to say I was healed last night.

Now I want to bring it back all the way to the beginning. Okay, first and foremost, I went to Game 1 of the NBA Finals in San Antonio. In San Antonio. I thought that was the best night of my life. Me and Scooter Braun, we were there. We were having the time of our lives. Tyler Cameron, we This was it.

Yeah.

Let me tell you, it pales— last night was 100 times better.

Of course it was. In the garden, you were with your wife.

Hello. It was—

you got to sleep in your own bed.

It was completely electric. You have been— I'm sure you told them— you have been refreshing Ticketmaster. You've been trying to get tickets yesterday. You have been trying to get tickets.

I don't want to spoil the vlog as to like how we got tickets. And yes, we did do pay transparency. We told everyone how much we paid, but you have to watch the vlog to find out. But things worked out really well for us.

I would say things worked out really well. And if I didn't go to San Antonio, we probably wouldn't have gone to Game 4. That's all I'll say.

I have chills. Why do you think that?

Because of who I met.

Oh, it's true. It's true. We got our plug.

Our plug was met in San Antonio.

Shut up, Brett. It's so true. Don't want to spoil the vlog, but like, Brett's kind of like a major player in the vlog.

Yeah, Brett is a major player in the vlog. Okay. So that was that first. Even, even though like whatever, it didn't work out, like we didn't get them the way that we thought maybe we would get them, the— your effort did not go unnoticed.

I really tried. This whole journey was me surprising Ben, cuz like Father's Day is coming up and I know like there's literally the only thing you want in the world is to be at the garden.

I guess you're going to have to find something else. No, I— well, I guess you— no, I'm going to get tickets for her. Yeah, by the way, I, I heard you last night. No, I'll pay for them, I'll pay for them. No, no, you won't. No, you won't. I paid for them already. They're on my card. You're not reimbursing me and getting out on Father's Day. You're going to find something. No, there They're reimbursed on my card and that's that. I paid for them. That's that. That's that. What are you going to get me for Father's Day?

Tickets to Game 6. If you guys watch the vlog, you'll understand. When we left the stadium, like, it just kept getting better. I really— I feel like I didn't— I had like 3 sips of a cocktail. We had to go to an event first, so I was dead sober. Like, I felt drunk. I felt like I'm on drugs. Like, I don't even remember last night when we left the stadium. I did get like a little nervous and we will talk in the stories about how, like, people in New York are acting. Really not right. And I'm like feeling embarrassed to be a New Yorker because people are being so disgusting. And I'd see these videos on Game 1, 2, and 3, like the streets of New York sort of erupted very Philly-like. And so I was getting a little nervous. We like ran out of the stadium and we got in the car and it was— besides for like the little panic I felt of like people maybe like stomping our car, it was very thrilling to see like people from just all walks of life in the streets, like jumping for fucking joy. Like it was pure joy.

And Ben was one of them. Like, seriously, I'm sorry. Didn't take your shirt off.

I couldn't. I couldn't breathe. I think for what, for an hour? I just said, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.

Ben was like just dead silent.

And then as we walked through Penn Station, I just like— there's just like certain moments you just start to erupt. Yeah, you just like scream, let's fucking go, from your belly. Yeah. Like, it just— you can't even— you can't control it. We watched the greatest game in the history of basketball. And by the way, if you're not a sports fan, That night, like, like last night is, is what sports are about. You wait.

Not a sports fan. You're obviously a pop culture fan because you're listening to this. And there was so much pop culture to be had. I will say half my vlog is just me zooming in on Taylor Swift. I would say we were probably like 25 rows up from Taylor herself, and it was thrilling. Taylor was there. Kylie was there. All the usuals, of course, like Jimmy Fallon, Tina Fey, Tracy Morgan, Ben Stiller, the whole like New York crew. Timmy. Timmy C. Yeah, but did I say that?

No.

That's the same thing. And then like they had announced that Taylor was coming. I didn't know if it was actually going to be true, but she did come. She came with Haim and Mariska Hargitay. Um, it was insane. Like it was so crazy. It felt like the entire stadium was watching her. Like everything stopped when she walked in. Like I didn't know she walked in, but I felt a shift in the vibes before the game started and I was like, oh, Taylor's here. And I just zoomed in. I was using my phone to like be a magnifying glass. I zoomed in, I saw her. It was, it was so crazy. Of course, like so many pop culture crossovers, which we'll talk about. It was just like, not to make everything about me, but I can't believe that I was there. Like, I feel like if I was watching from home, I would have had so much FOMO.

I said this last night, and I know that you, like, think I'm really dramatic and like, you know, you don't agree with me. I think I might be dead.

Ben was like, are we dead?

I'm dead. I'm dead and I'm in heaven. Otherwise, none of this makes sense. You're telling me we go to a Knicks game, okay? We go to a Knicks game with Taylor Swift. Okay. The Knicks mount a 29-point comeback. This doesn't happen to the Knicks.

It doesn't happen to— that's true.

This doesn't happen to the Knicks.

Who do you think played the best? Like, obviously OG, right? Like, he's like the MVP of the night.

OG's the MVP of the night. But as I watched it back, Brunson did his thing. He helped us chip away. But yeah, this is—

he did help us chip away.

But yeah, this was OG's night.

They said OG barely played in the second half and he had 31 points. Like, that's insane.

He had— he had 33 points.

Sorry, 33.

On 15 shots, which is an unbelievable ratio. Okay, and he has— Brian Windhorst said this, who I hate, by the way. He's like an NBA commentator. I hate him. He's terrible. He's terrible. But he said OG has 2 statues if the Knicks win the Finals on the same play.

I've literally—

on the same play. I'm sorry that you heard a private FaceTime with Pete Alonso. I just want to say Ben, I'm not allowed to regurgitate from a private conversation.

Ben is Lady Gaga. There could be 100 people in a room. Like, I've heard you say this. OG has 2 statues. He does. 100 people in a room.

He has— OG has 2 statues. The chase-down block on De'Aaron Fox and then the fucking tip-in. And let's talk about that tip-in. Jalen Brunson shot that ball with 6 seconds left over Wemby, which took Wemby out of the paint so OG could crash and get that tip-in. If Wemby's there, he can't get that tip-in.

He missed it on purpose. No.

No, no, he obviously tried to make it. Okay, kind of like a dumb question. Yeah, yeah, he tried to miss it on purpose when they're down 1.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was dumb. Sorry. Um, do you think that the Knicks win the championship? Like, is there any world in which the Spurs come back from 3-1? 2-1, maybe. It's never been done.

All I'm gonna say is, one game at a time. I have seen these Knicks do crazier, do the impossible. The Knicks are— that's the thing, we talk about this all the time. You never want to be lucky like that, because luck swings both ways. To come back from 29 points, we could lose the whole— we could lose the series, right? That said, Mike Brown put it nicely. He said, he said, you gotta make your own luck.

That's such a—

put yourself out there. You gotta give yourself a chance to be lucky.

Okay, be lucky.

Luck be a lady tonight.

So if you had it your way, would you prefer like that they win in—

yes, 5 done, go win on the road in San Antonio. Yeah, I don't want to go to another fucking game game. I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired, okay? I'm going to bed at 1 o'clock in the morning every night. I'm waking up at— thank God you let me sleep. Oh my God, that was—

we went to bed at like 1:30 the last time I mentioned it. I didn't even go to 1:30 on New Year's. Like, this is insane.

Oh, by the way, let me sleep. I woke up at a quarter to 8. Like, it really is—

that's like, that's like noon for a parent.

No, I know, but it's like, these games, why are they starting, starting at 8:30?

It's a problem.

Just start at 7:30. Who gives a shit about Los Angeles?

It's a real problem. I agree about Los Angeles.

Oh, because you're not home from work, you can't watch the Knicks and the Spurs, you don't even care.

I agree.

You live on the West Coast.

Prioritize the fans.

Yes, 7:30 game time would be lovely.

I want to say that last night they also had the anthem sung by the same person. It was amazing on Monday, which I love. I talked about him extensively on the toast. His name is Avery Wilson. He's from the, um, Wiz. The Wiz. He was incredible. But it's kind of crazy to have two—

I thought the same— back-to-back performances. I bet you they just like— they were like, we don't want somebody that could maybe fuck up, and we know he's amazing. And he's down.

They have people sing at every single game.

Like, you're so right. I thought that was strange.

I thought it was weird too. And I'm not complaining because he was stellar. Yeah. Um, and shout out to the NYPD for keeping everyone safe. I saw them putting on like their, uh, helmets and the, uh, like the SWAT uniforms to like go— they were walking towards the Garden as everyone was walking away from it because I'm sure like riots were starting. Um, and yeah, part of me wants them to win in San Antonio too, just to like minimize damage done in New York. Like, people are—

can we talk about that for a second?

No, that's one of the stories I want to talk about. Okay.

Um, okay. So the whole— because we don't claim these people.

The whole episode is going to be very basketball coded. And like, it's just hard because I drink a lot of beer and I watch a lot of sports. And so like, yeah, my podcast, like I talk about my interests, which are sports.

How, by the way, you're a big— you're a big beer drinker.

Can we talk about how Grab a Slice this is?

It's really Grab a Slice.

I'm so—

it's actually— it's actually not Grab a Slice because that was the greatest— you went to the greatest game in the history of sports.

I know, but you went to— you said the Grab a Slice thing when we were like 16. You wanted like a girlfriend at the time, wife who was just like chill and like grabbed a slice and like, that's so beer watching sports and like, that's who I am now.

Like, okay, like, okay, okay. That's, that's not you going to Game 4 of the NBA Finals.

I'm so fucking—

you literally went to the—

it was the greatest ticket in the history of sports, which is so grab a slice.

Like, and I just didn't grab a slice.

You're like, I felt like I was so chill the whole time.

You grab a slice, which is why we drove to the Garden instead of taking the subway and why we parked.

We're so grab a slice. Like, I'm so chill. It's insane.

You want to fix it? That's good.

Okay. I'm so chill.

Yeah, you're pretty chill. You're great. You're pretty chill. We waited for— we sat in traffic for an hour. Actually, it was really 20 minutes.

I'm obsessed with the fact that you think we drove to the Garden because of me when it was actually my idea to take the subway at Mahjong yesterday.

It was your idea, and then it was not mine, and then you switched it.

It was your idea to take the subway, and then it was your idea to drive, and then you got invited to an event, a restaurant opening that we had to go to before.

Shout out Avenue, the new Avenue in New York.

So we had to drive and that was like, you're doing— I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.

I didn't. I didn't make us drive, though.

You did.

Okay.

You absolutely did.

You know that? You're like— like your memory is questionable, by the way.

Collective memory yesterday is not—

by the way, collectively, we have very questionable memories.

Why?

I don't know. I just feel like you make stuff up. I make stuff—

I don't make stuff up. Like, I'm telling the truth.

Okay. You make everything up.

Don't put that on me.

Okay. You make everything up.

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Oh, not closing my iPad because we are— I'm doing the stories. Okay, so much to talk about. So our first story is going to be sort of like NBA subset Taylor Swift. Great. Taylor went to the game.

Yes, she did.

She was there with Haim, the two sisters. And then she got seated because I watched the whole thing. So she didn't come with Mariska. Mariska was there, of course. You know, Mariska and Jalen Brunson are like best friends. Did you see when the Knicks won? Mariska Hargitay stormed the— Yes, she stormed the Capitol. She stormed the court and she ran into Rick Brunson's arms.

You're lying.

Can you explain, like, Rick Brunson? So Jalen Brunson's dad is like a coach on the Knicks.

Jalen Brunson's dad. Was also an NBA player for the New York Knicks during 1999 when they played and lost to the Spurs.

Oh, wait, Rick Brunson. The Knicks were in the NBA Finals. They lost and it was 19.

They lost in 5 to the Spurs in 1999.

I didn't realize it was to the Spurs.

I have chills. Yeah. And there were so many parallels. Remember Tim Duncan, who's now like a Hall of Famer for the Spurs?

Yeah, of course. He was on the Spurs.

He was 22.

Victor Wembenyama.

Victor Wembenyama. Yeah. There were so many of those parallels. Rick Brunson. Player, NBA, and that was a coach, and now he's a coach for the Knicks.

It's so cute.

He's been coaching Jalen his whole life. Yeah, it's, it's amazing. The whole thing is amazing.

Yeah, so Taylor was there. Mariska showed up in a different shirt, and then they obviously have made a shirt for Mariska. So I don't know if you saw, Taylor was wearing like a blue shirt that looked like it had the, like, the word Knicks on it, but it actually said Stevie Nicks. Yes. Um, which was really cute. One of the Haim sisters was wearing the same thing. They obviously like did this like DIY project, because one of the other sisters was wearing Nicole Kidman. And I just want to say that one was dumb. I didn't like that one. They all should have been wearing Stevie Nicks, because like, it's Stevie Nicks. Yes. And Taylor's like best friends with Stevie Nicks. So I really like the wardrobe, but I, I didn't like Nicole Kidman. Um, oh, and no, one of them was also wearing one that said Nickelback.

That's cute.

No, I like it. The Stevie Nicks one was the best one. The other ones were silly. Kylie and Timothy were wearing matching Chrome Hearts. Okay, sorry, I'm getting off. So Taylor was there, but don't you think it's really crazy that— and Taylor is like an OG Nick fan. She actually has like deep roots in Nick fandom. She's not like a bandwagoner. So, so it's crazy that she went to the Cleveland game with Travis. Now, she didn't wear Cleveland outfits, she didn't wear Knicks outfits, but she was obviously there like supporting the Cavs, right?

No, no, no, I do know. So you're telling me, you know, for 100— with 100% certainty she was not wearing anything Cleveland Cavalier related during that game?

She wearing red? What color are the Cavaliers? Red. She was wearing maroon.

Oh, maroon is their color.

Taylor Swift.

Because this would be a problem.

Yeah, that's—

and then I, and then I can explain.

Okay, she—

no, no.

Okay, no, she did not wear maroon. She wore black and jeans. Okay, she did not wear one ounce. Okay, actually, her jeans are blue. Okay, and Travis wore all denim. Sure. And a red Cavs hat.

Sure. Okay, Taylor Swift is a Knicks fan. She is. I know for a fact Uh, during Game 1, I actually sat next to a lovely gentleman who was seated first row, but they wouldn't let him wear his Knicks jersey. And so he's taking it off. Instead of taking it off, he got a worse seat.

Okay, that's dumb.

I just want to say, I'm look— I was looking right across at Shane Gillis. Shane Gillis. Oh, was that diehard? Yeah. No, no, it wasn't.

No.

Oh no, these are two separate people.

Oh, okay, you're being confusing. No, I'm So you're saying Shane Gillis took the seat and took off the jersey?

He just wasn't wearing anything.

Yeah, you can't at an away game, you can't wear the opposing team.

You can't wear—

get a courtside seat. And I learned last night actually that courtside seats, for the most part, like, you really can't buy. The Garden, at least. I don't know if this is for every, um, stadium. For the most part, like, a couple of people have season tickets, like Spike Lee, but for the most part, you can't even buy them. Like, they're given away at the discretion of the Garden to Jimmy Fallon, to, I'm sure, like, important business people. So Yeah, they can be strict with the rules, and I'm sure because you're being invited and you're probably not paying. Yeah, that's the thing. Celebrities, unless like Spike Lee has season tickets, but all the other celebrities like don't pay.

No, there's— I— it's probably like 50/50. I think a lot of it's corporate, right?

Like, yeah, right, right, right. Like, you know, uh, like that's why random— White Waterhouse Cooper.

Sure, sure, sure, sure. Um, but yeah, Taylor Swift is a Knick fan. If she went to the Cavs game and didn't wear anything related to the Cavs Last night I saw everything that I needed to see.

She was jumping for joy. She stayed the whole time. She did not stay the whole time at the Cavs game.

I mean, anybody would be jumping for joy last night.

That doesn't—

that's not it.

She was also drunk, which I like love that she's like— she gets drunk. She— I saw her, it's in my vlog. I was like filming her the whole time like a true stalker.

The guy next— the guy next to me was fucking drunk last night. And let me tell you, okay, nice kid, nice kid, whatever. I'm being nice. You turn to me at one point, you're like, are you burping? This fucking kid nonstop. He must have had like 15 beers. Hot dog, hot dog. I was, I was in his mouth. Yeah, I agree, I was in his mouth. And then, by the way, with like 9 seconds left, you saw, hey, let's take a quick selfie. Like, I'm in the middle, we're in the middle of a comeback, okay? And he kept asking me, he kept asking me in the fourth quarter, I don't know if you heard, man, how famous are you, man? Man, how famous are you? We need a selfie, we need a selfie. My, my ex-girlfriend Loved you. She loved the toast. Oh man, she'd be so upset. Oh man, she'd be so upset. But I don't care. I don't care. I'm here with you. He was blackout.

He was blackout.

He was so nice.

There were a lot of people there alone, which was nice because like no one's alone. You're never alone when you're with Branson.

You're never alone when you're with the Knicks. It's true. Once a Knick, always a Knick.

So a couple of things about Taylor's presence there. One, just interesting to see how like so many people interact with her, one of those people being Kylie Jenner. So I don't know if you know, Taylor's just like whenever she goes anywhere, it's like landmines. She has so many, like, feuds or whatever. One of them is, of course, with the Kardashians, Kanye and Kim, the whole song, you know, the letter, the lyric, you know, the saga.

Yeah, but like, I have to assume that now that Kanye is fucking crazy, that the Kardashians and her have no beef.

Well, so Kim, like, when Kim is asked about it, she always says, like, we're good, we're good, we're good. But it's like Kim is the one who did it to Taylor. It's not like on Kim to forgive. It's on Taylor.

Sure.

And let me tell you, Taylor does not forgive, and she does not forget. She wrote like a whole Reputation album about it. She still writes songs. She wrote a song called Thank U, Amy where the K, the I, and the M are all capitalized. Like, she fucking hates Kim. Oh, um, so Kylie was there. And now let me tell you, because I was sitting behind them so I could see, they were in the same row, but there was— they were like pretty far. Like, and especially for coming and going during like halftime and stuff, they were using different sides. So they could have gotten away with not saying hello, not hugging, but they did. When everybody stormed the court, there's this video that like they're in really close quarters and they both like turn and see each other, so they're like, hi, and they hug. And Kylie was like, that was crazy. Yeah, I saw Kylie's eyes. Like, I just know Kylie's shitting her pants. Like, because the thing is, it's been grossly inconvenient for the Kardashians like to be beefing with Taylor Swift. They have so many kids who are girls around the age of like Taylor Swift fans.

Like, I'm sure that they all wanted to go to the Eras Tour. I'm sure that they can't escape the music. Kylie's Stormi is like 5 or 6 years old. Like, 6-year-olds fucking love Taylor Swift. I'm sure they're going to see Toy Story and the new Toy Story movies, all Taylor Swift. Like, I imagine it's been really annoying, but like, Taylor hates them for sure. But she was such a queen. Like, Taylor's so famous now that like a lot of her feuds are sort of not even worth her time.

Sure.

Like, it's beneath her to even care.

Sure.

She's literally like more famous. Like, she's just as— that's why someone at Mahjong yesterday was like, why do people care so much about this wedding? And I'm because it's really the closest thing we have to a royal wedding here in America. So, yeah, she's on such a different level. I don't even know who to compare her to fame-wise. Like the Beatles.

That's why it's so unbelievable that the Knicks did that last night.

I know. Do you think they get nervous when they see her?

Yeah, I think that's exactly why they lost Game 3.

She wasn't there.

No, Trump's in the— Trump's in the building. No, it's just—

he's all the way up there. Like, they barely even know. He's just like a face in a crowd. She's right there. She had probably the best seat in the whole arena. She's at the half-court line. On the wood. Like, I imagine it's actually quite jarring. She is— that's what I mean when I said, like, when she walked in, like, the vibes changed in the whole arena. Like, she is this presence.

Yeah, it was crazy.

I wonder if any of them, you know, where do they, like, where do they stream the press conference afterwards?

Like, I keep seeing clips, but like, I would like to watch on the exact— on the channel.

Oh really?

Yeah, like right after they have post-game interviews. You're kidding. No, like right there. Like, you didn't have to change the channel. I'm cracking up. It's not like hidden from you.

Oh, I thought it was like, yeah, like, like an industry thing.

Okay. But I, but I'm sure that Jalen Brunson is a big Taylor Swift fan because I'm sure that Ali Brunson is a big Taylor Swift fan.

100%.

Like, there's, there's no—

she's very swirly. Like, she's got that twirl.

Yes, 100%. So I'm sure that they were freaking out. I'm sure Josh Hart was. I'm sure that, I'm sure that they were so excited that she was there. They are so used to having A-list, but she really is— she is another level.

More so than even like the Lakers. I think that they're front row is like the most insane A-list. So yes, I think to a degree they're sort of used to it.

I think they're sort of used to it too.

But like, if I was in the press conference, which like, seriously, get me a fucking press pass. Like, I want to ask, like, what did you guys feel when you saw Taylor Swift? Kylie looked insane. She wore a matching Chrome Hearts like denim look with Timothée. Um, and this video of them hugging, like, I could probably watch for 2 hours and like keep seeing new parts of it. Like, it's just— I'm watching it right now. It's insane. And like Taraji P. Henson in the background. That was also the crazy thing. It was everyone was trying to get tickets to this game. It was like the great equalizer. Like, huge celebrities were like in the 5th, 6th row. Like, it was insane.

And that just shows you that celebrities don't pay for tickets, right? Because there's a finite number of tickets in the front row. And if you wanted to go and you wanted free tickets, then they're going to sit you in the first 6 rows. Yeah. Last night's game, though, people slept on it. Ticket prices dropped. They did. They dropped significantly. I'm not saying that they dropped into a place where it was affordable. But they dropped— you could have entered the Garden at $3,000, and last week it was $10,000, $12,000. Yeah, everybody blew their load on Game 3.

Yeah, everyone. And everyone is losing Game 3. Took a lot of the, I think, like, wind out from—

it's not even that. I was in, I was in the elevator this morning with a guy going to work wearing his Knicks jersey.

I saw him. Everyone is wearing their Knicks outfits.

And I said to him, like, he's like, what a game. I'm like, yeah, I was there. He's like, oh my God, I have tickets to Game 6. What I didn't want to tell him is I don't know if you're going to be going again, right? But it's so hard to say if you have one pot of money, are you going to go—

when do you go to—

you probably want to go to the one that you think is going to be a closeout.

Yeah.

But let me tell you, I really think that was our closeout. I don't know how you go to San Antonio and lose. Yeah, like, like, that was— it does not get better than last night. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't get better than last night.

A little bit more Taylor Swift drama, which is like seriously cracking me up. I saw this on Twitter this morning, and I get got by like so much AI content, like so much fake, like celebrity posted this, and I thought for sure Selena Gomez's Instagram story was fake. But one thing about Selena Gomez is like, she's not of this world. She's the craziest bitch on the planet, and she did write this Instagram story. Okay, so fans are confused by Selena Gomez's very cryptic comment under a picture of Taylor Swift at a Knicks game, and people don't know what to make of it. So everyone was at the Garden last night. The way BuzzFeed writes stories, like, girl, just tell us. So Selena's posting Was that thing that I saw? No, I— okay, sorry. Yeah, all right. So she posted an Instagram story calling out people who have become sudden fans of the Knicks. So she posted like an NBA website screenshot, a historic comeback, and then her little comment is, 'Mad respect for the game.' Okay, congrats to the peeps that represent. What does that mean? What a comeback. So funny how some of y'all— how some are all of a sudden fans though.

LOL. So people think that maybe this had something to do with Taylor being there with, you know, friends and having like her girl gang moment and Selena's not there.

I mean, aren't they friends?

Yes.

Yeah. So that's not what it is, really. Yeah. People want to start beef.

And then wait. And then MTV posted like a carousel of pictures of like Taylor and her girls being like, you know, swirly at the game. And Selena Gomez commented.

LOL.

Oh, that's— yeah, no, I'm telling you, like, first of all, Selena Gomez is crazy. She's a massive Spurs fan because she is from Texas, so she was documenting herself like watching the game. She's in London at 3 AM on her phone being like, yeah, I'm watching. Um, then yeah, MTV posted Mariska Taylor and like the girlies, um, and Selena commented just simply LOL.

The truth is to— I don't wish on my worst enemy to be a Spurs fan last night.

So some people think Selena was just like lolling at Taylor's funny t-shirt. Others assumed it was like a playful team rivalry. She Spurs, they're Knicks. However, some people think that the cryptic comment may have something to do with an Instagram story that Selena apparently posted and deleted after the Spurs loss, which is so funny how some of y'all are all of a sudden fans though. Hmm, like, this is something Selena would do. Her social media is she's actually been—

you know, you know this better than me—

she's been good for like a few years, but she's always posting like the craziest thing. Like, I'm taking a break, and then she comes back 30 seconds later and starts drama. Like, she's really, um, like deeply unwell. So I could see this, but her and Taylor are tried and fucking true. But the good thing is, is that we have this litmus test coming up for Taylor's wedding of like, who's in Taylor's life? Like, who was a real friend? Who was a real colleague? Who was a real acquaintance? Because it's a 1,000-person wedding, so she's being quite generous with the invitations. And like, if you're not there You're not there. Yeah. So if Selena's there, like, we're good. If Selena's not—

I thought they were like— aren't they like best friends?

Like a decades-long friendship?

Yeah.

So I don't— I don't know how Taylor's friends with her though. She seems so crazy.

I don't think that this has anything to do with that. I think that, uh, I think that this has at least the first comment. Yeah, there are a lot of bandwagon Nick fans. I don't give a shit.

Like, you know, talk about that. That shit pisses me off. People like gatekeeping the Knicks. Like It's cool that like even if you don't live here, it's so exciting. Like people wanting to be a part of it, going to bars, every bar and restaurant. And there's so fun, and we want that sort of fanfare. It's not like— it's really truly the more the merrier. I know that makes it harder to get tickets and stuff, but like it is annoying when people are like, well, you're a transplant, or like you haven't lived here that long, or like, oh, you're just now— it's like, girl, shut up.

By the way, it doesn't make it harder to get Nick tickets, okay? That's like—

it's hard already.

It's hard already. It's always gonna be hard. There aren't enough seats for Nick fans. There isn't enough money. Like the tickets are too expensive. That's a totally separate story. These new Knicks fans are not coming up to old Knicks fans claiming that they're bigger Knicks fans. They're just also Knicks fans.

They're just—

they're also just rooting for the team. Gatekeeping. So yeah, I have no— I have no issue with new Knicks fans. Like, there was a time— there was a time where—

I'm cracking up.

You are on one.

Am I?

Sorry. Yeah. There is no issue at all with being a new Knicks fan. It used to be embarrassing to be a Knicks fan, right? Like, it used to be like If you were a Knicks fan, you were a— you were a no— you were a loser.

If you weren't here for the Raymond Felton era, like, you don't know.

Oh, so you're gatekeeping? Because yeah, you know, yeah, they were so bad.

You know what else I found interesting? There were so many celebrities there last night that, like, they did this roundup. They obviously went to every celebrity and, like, had them wave at the camera. But, um, so there was all those courtside seats, but there were, like, two suites full of celebrities. And I found it really interesting, like, who the Garden cheered for, because it kept showing everyone. It's They showed Jerry Seinfeld and everybody went wild, like the classic people. Then they showed Ben Padgley and— Penn Badgley and Nina Dobrev, and let me tell you, like, not one person cheered. Yeah, they showed like Tate McRae and Hailey Bieber, like there were some cheers, but like it's very interesting, like who's so New York, like the people in the audience, like they don't give a fuck about certain people, like who otherwise are extremely famous. Kevin Jonas was there, Keke Palmer was there, there were so many. Of course Liam Neeson, like the New York people, like Edie Falco, um, who plays, um Soprano, the wife, what's her name? Carmine?

Yeah, Karma. No, no, Carmela. Carmela.

No.

Yeah, Carmela Soprano. Wait, wait, wait, I think Carmela. Yeah, I think the other guy, Soprano. Carmela Soprano.

And then like the other guy from Sopranos, they were sitting together, who's also from Blue Bloods, Anthony something. He's like, they got the loudest cheers. And they're not like the most famous or like the most of the moment. It was just very interesting who got like the craziest cheers.

Yeah, I'm trying to think who were they, who were they deafeningly silent for? Besides Penn, there was another one, wasn't there? Yeah. Who was it?

I felt bad. Amy Schumer. Like, oh, yeah, booed her. Like, that pisses me off.

Why would they boo her?

Because she's like a Zionist.

Is that what it is?

Yeah, it's really upsetting because like, that's my queen right there. So I'm going to say that I think Selena Gomez was starting stuff, but I guess we'll see if she's at the wedding. Like, then that's that on that. Agreed. That's kind of what's exciting about this wedding. I feel like I do still hold like one candle of hope that like this whole Taylor Swift, Blake Lively like feud is fake, although I'm pretty sure it's not. And if she was at the wedding, I just think that would be like a really big— oh, you know, they say Taylor's getting married at the Garden.

Yes. I don't know why she would be getting married at the Garden because it's so private.

There's no windows there. You can't fly a drone over. Like, it's literally— and it's a 1,000-person wedding, and I think they want to get married in New York City for some reason. So it's like, where can you go in a 1,000-person wedding in the city that's so private? It's kind of an inspired choice.

I guess that you could, with unlimited money, make it not look like the Garden.

Well, yeah, I think a lot of people are like, what, she's gonna have an altar in front of a basketball hoop? No, they're gonna like— you're not even gonna see— it's not gonna look like a stadium.

Like, when you have unlimited money, like, you're right, they were, they were moving this space.

Wedding, like, you walk inside a tent and it looks like there's like drapery. They're gonna do that, like, time— if that's where it is.

That makes sense.

I also just don't know if, like, they're saying it's MSG July 3rd, like, I just don't think we would know.

But that does— it does make more sense. At first I was like, she's getting married on the Knicks court. Yeah, like, no, you remove the court, you remove all the courtside seats, all of a sudden you just have this big blank canvas, 20,000, 30,000 square foot area to just build tents and I think activate.

And like no one can get a picture.

And to your point, crazy security, crazy security.

I mean, look how many people were there last night. They had the president on Monday. Like they're equipped, they're equipped. That's level A-listers who are coming.

You're right, you're right. I know, because it actually does, it makes a little sense. It does, it makes a little sense. And the drone thing, it's very interesting.

Yeah.

You can fly a drone anywhere if it's outside, right? Not inside.

Yeah, it's kind of brilliant.

It is kind of brilliant. What's our next story?

Let me— I'll do one more Knicks story and then we'll move on to, like, other topics of discussion, unfortunately. So the last thing I want to talk about is this video that's going viral of Victor Wembanyama getting pelted with eggs after the Knicks game. So Victor Wembanyama is the star of the other team. He's 22 years old and he's like 6'8". He's like this.

He's 7'4".

Okay, cool. And I think what's like— there are a lot of really tall players, but what's really special about him is like, if you're really tall, sometimes like you're not very coordinated because it takes a long time for like your brain to tell your arm to do something. So he's like very, very coordinated, and he's just like definitely gonna be— he's been in the league what, for one year?

Yeah, he, he's gonna be a great—

he's gonna be like a legend. Um, he's 22, so he's still like really young, and, um, he's French, which I just thought was interesting. And everyone in New York hates him. And I will say like some of the Knicks fans were pissing me off last night because it's like, gets no calls. Victor plays dirty.

And it's like, by the way, Victor does play dirty. He does.

But like, a lot of the— you, you and like your friends around you, like the new friends that you made, were like, that's a fucking foul. And he just has a big arm. Like, no, no, not everything is a conspiracy.

No, no, no, no, no, no. It's, it's, it's real. It's real. You can watch the highlights. The refs were terrible. Uh, that said, you said that he's from France.

Is he not?

He is. He played pro basketball in France.

Okay.

They play dirty overseas. That's a fact. This is a different brand of basketball, and he is playing an overseas brand of basketball where you pull jerseys, where you elbow people, where you are honestly a piece of shit. Like, he really is. He is so dirty. And to be 7'4" and so dirty— that being said, the same way that you said that we have these fair-weather Knick fans that are in and all of a sudden everybody's a Knick fan, let me tell you, we do not claim for one second the person who pelted him with eggs. We do not claim the Knick fan who beat up a Spurs fan apparently. And we certainly do not claim the Knicks fans in the streets that are destroying property, breaking taxi cabs. I've never seen anything like it. And they are— they are not Knick fans. Yeah, they are just hooligans in disguise who love chaos.

Yeah, that's it. The video of him getting pelted with eggs is so wrong. So I guess— and maybe this is not a thing at like every other city, but like because it's in New York City, when like they get on their bus, they go to their hotel. When they walk from the bus to the hotel, there's like barricades of fans, kind of like when Taylor walks to her apartment. Whereas like, I think maybe if you were in like a, like a more suburban town, it wouldn't be like that, like a million fans waiting for you by your hotel. Like, no, it also get a little bit of privacy, but because it's the city, you don't.

I, I really don't know. I, I was surprised to see that he was out in the street and not like going in like a back entrance to somewhere that they can't.

But like, if you were playing in like the middle of Texas, you could like pull into a garage, you Yeah, I don't know why they didn't fly home. So there were a lot of fans like waiting there, of course, like booing, whatever. And then somebody threw an egg at him. Like, I just think like that's really fucked up. And it's like, it's— yeah. And then I saw the video of everybody like stomping on a cab. Like, stop. Like, that's not— that's not the vibe.

But by the way, you saying stop, we don't— these people are nowhere in our orbit.

I know, but these are not represent your city and your team.

No, no, they don't. They're, they're transplants that are there now.

I know. Oh, now they're Now I know how the Philly fans felt when everybody like was calling them like, you know, domestic terrorists.

Like, you know what, you're right. It's interesting.

It's, it's interesting because I was saying that and I can confidently say that about Philly fans in general, but like you wouldn't say that about New York fans, right?

I can confidently say that these are not Knick fans. So if in order for you to believe me, I need to say confidently that those are not Philly fans, okay, then they're not Philly fans.

Like, that's seriously so mean. And he's 22. I like not, you know, I can't really watch too much sports as like a boy mom because I'm like very empathetic, and I was really starting to feel bad for Wemby Nyama. Like, it's just a lot of pressure on him, and he's very talented, like, skill-wise, but I think because he's only 22, he lacks, like, a little bit of, like, a maturity and emotional intelligence.

That's the whole team. The whole team is unbelievable and 22 years old.

So, like, they lack the sort of, like, emotional strength versus the physical strength, and I just, like, was really starting to feel bad for him. Like, everybody was booing him, and, like, the arena kept cheering, like, fuck you, Wemby! And it's like, he's just playing for his team. Like, if he was playing for your guys's team, you would love everything that he was doing. Let me, let me just make sure that I made this point very crystal clear, okay?

Wemby is such an unbelievably dirty player. Unbelievably dirty. That said, it stays on the court. You do not throw eggs at somebody. You do not curse at somebody in person. This stays on the court. You're watching a basketball game, you're rooting for your team hard. The second that that game is over, he's, he's a human. He's a human. He's a fierce competitor. I think he's incredibly dirty. I'm not a fan of his. I'm not a fan at all. Yeah, I'll probably hate him forever. He's one of those, like, I, I just—

what if he ever came to play for the Knicks? You would love him.

He'll never come to play for the Knicks. He'll never leave San Antonio. This is like their generational decades-long— this is their guy. He will retire a Spur.

Oh, wow. Really?

Yeah, that's it. They will never let him go.

This was our final story about the Knicks. So like, we are going to move on to talk about like, why?

What the fuck else is going on?

There's like a couple of other things. Like what? If there's anything else you want to say.

I love the Knicks.

Okay.

I love OG Anunoby.

Me too.

I love Jalen Brunson. I love Josh Hart. I love Karl-Anthony Towns. I love Jose Alvarado.

Let me tell you, I love that Mitchell Robinson.

I love Mitchell Robinson.

Yeah, but like, he's gotta like learn how to shoot.

Like, I love Mikal Bridges.

Yeah, also I hope that OG Anunoby has like a beautiful woman at home who takes care of him. Like, I don't know, whenever I see him, I always think like, I hope you have a wife. I don't know anything about him.

I, I think he does. By the way, shout out Canada for bringing us the Toronto native in OG Anunoby, who just seems sweet as sugar.

I agree.

His disposition He's very chill. He's very chill and he is so fucking good. Yeah, the Knicks are— this was me last night. Oh my God, oh my God. All right, I'm doing one loud one. Oh my God, let's go Knicks!

Okay, we can stop. Humiliating. Like, it was so crazy.

No, me in Penn Station, like, oh, I gave so many hugs to cops. We were just like dapping each other up walking around.

We weren't in Penn Station. You keep saying that. We We were in Moynihan Station across the street.

The fuck is the difference?

It's a bus station.

What is Moynihan Station?

It's the bus station, the one across the street.

By the way, it's gorgeous. Yeah, it's new. Much nicer than Penn.

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Okay, our next story, totally switching gears, but it does still apply to you because I want you to share like a super fun fact about yourself. But, um, Jesse Solomon made a lot of news yesterday because because he posted in his Instagram what he believes to be his complete timeline of the Wes Wilson and Amanda Batula romance. So we saw part 3, the final part of the reunion on Tuesday, and everyone was just pretty much left saying like, we have no clarity, you can't get your dates right, when did this happen, who, what, when, where, why, how. Like, it was really not a resolution-filled—

sure—

reunion. Everyone was left with more questions than ever. So Jesse Solomon took it upon himself to use his platform to share what he believes to be his timeline. So he said, that's a wrap on the reunion, thanks for having me, time to lock in on my music. And he did a carousel pictures of Watch What Happens Live and him and Andy, Jesse Solomon with the camera, and then this screenshot of what he says is the timeline. It spans from February 10th to March 23rd. On February 10th— I won't read you the whole thing, you can check out his Instagram— he thinks that like that's where he— that's where it starts for him. Um, Wes and Amanda go to dinner in Miami. Him, Wes, and Amanda are all in Miami together, and they go to dinner by themselves and don't invite me. Then it ends on March 31st where he shares the news dropping, confirms everything. He calls out Wes for lying. Um, I ask Wes— and you know what, I'm actually glad that he did this because I know that Wes is not like a main character in this. It's like Kyle, Amanda, Sierra, and Wes.

But he was crying the entire reunion. He's a very emotional guy. I think that like him and Wes had real friendship. And he never— he didn't get anything from Wes. Nobody did, but he got nothing. And I think he was really expecting like a moment with Wes or a cry, and he got nothing. So I like— of all the people I want to hear from, yeah, like Jesse Solomon is one of them. And you know what, like fun fact, Ben's having dinner with Jesse Solomon tonight. Have you met him before?

We've never met. Um, I'm excited for dinner. We're definitely not going to talk about any of this.

Oh, you think?

Like, yeah, I think— okay, no, I think that he's just I would hope just like a real nice normal Jewish guy.

Well, like him and I were DMing and I was like, I know you're busy right now with like the biggest scandal in reality TV history, but I do think that you should find time to like meet my husband because I think you guys would be great friends. Just like, especially because he's now like doesn't have any— like his summer— Wes was his best friend, his brother, they're like not speaking. So I don't know if he's from New York City, but I just feel like he needs friends. Like he seems kind of lost. So I'm excited that you're getting dinner with him. Like, yeah, don't get tea, just like be a friend.

Be a friend. And I'm also excited. His— this new song, okay, Wildflower, is that what it's called?

Very good.

Wildfly or flower? Wildfire. It's so good. This song is very catchy.

It is.

I, I like it a lot. And I'm so excited. I hope that he's getting something out of reality TV. I know, because it's so important to get yours. Otherwise It just seems to ruin you. Yeah, like dear friend Craig Conover, would you say he's gotten something out of— yeah, a ton, of course.

I mean, he didn't work out, but he met like one of the great loves of his life through reality TV. He built businesses. He— yeah, I would say yeah. Yes, he's gotten a lot about Jesse Solomon.

He's gotten a lot out of it. And the people who get a lot out of it, great. It's a job, and you use that job to propel a career. Yeah, otherwise it just fucking ruins your life.

I think you need to do a chorus, like on Wildflower Love.

That would be great.

You need to do something.

Wow, I could be the rapper. Yes. Yeah, I'm here in the wildflower love looking at you, you're my wildflower love looking at me, you're my wildflower love looking at you.

I'm like Luda, Luda, literally. Okay, like drop, drop it. Yeah, so I can't wait to hear about your dinner with Jesse. Like, just be a friend, you know?

I'm so excited. That said, I am so tired.

I know. I can't believe you have to go out tonight. Like, I'm sitting my ass at home.

I am so tired.

But two nights this week we went to bed at midnight. Like, that's insane.

The Knicks energy is gonna get me through. A bunch of coffees, maybe a little NeuroGum.

Of course, of course. Yeah. Our fifth and final story is a little bit more Summer House news. I'm just sort of closing the loop on something that was—

did I miss the last episode?

You did.

I didn't see it. Did anything happen? Anything?

Actually, no. Like, there wasn't a lot of resolution. There's one more. They did drop a trailer.

Oh, can I just say something? This is important, okay? Because I didn't see— I, I didn't watch this, and I'm not gonna comment on all the— I'm— the drama's the drama, okay? This whole arc that Kyle Cook is a good guy—

I agree.

Let's not forget that he called me a scumbag and a liar, and he called me a liar. Not of, uh—

he called his wife a fucking bitch and a dumb bitch. Like, what? You're the least of it. Yeah, no, this whole rewriting history that like, oh God, because Amanda like slept with someone after her divorce Somehow, like, Amanda being a disgusting friend makes Kyle a good guy. He's still a terrible husband. That was the most frustrating part, especially part 2 of the reunion where they really dived into Kyle and Amanda's— everyone is like rewriting history, being like, yeah, well, Amanda, like, you did this. And it's like, he literally called her a fucking bitch and said fuck you in front of everyone. That's what he did on camera, in front of the world, in front of their friends. Like, please, this whole revisionist history— I completely agree with you. This Kyle Cooke arc, like, it's like, okay, Like, let's— yeah, let's do that.

I also don't ever remember when it was appropriate to say, oh yeah, I cheated, but that's because I was in a loveless marriage.

We weren't having sex.

I, I don't even know. I, I don't know when that became a thing. So he's a cheater. He called me a liar. He was mean. He was mean to me.

If Kyle—

he was mean.

If Kyle could like just apologize to you, would you forgive him?

Of course. Yeah, of course. Like, it's not—

it's not like—

it's not that good. It's not that deep. I just like this idea that he is now all of a sudden a good guy just because his ex-wife did something bad. The real villain here is very clearly West. Well, that's it.

Real hero here is very clearly an A-lister. So, okay, do you remember before the reunion aired but it had taped, there was an audio that got leaked? Like somebody recorded pieces of the reunion as it was happening, and it was a really big deal. Bravo took it really seriously. They did launch an investigation. It was someone from production, they figured it out. But basically somebody recorded at the reunion— they film it and then release it like a month later, um, but somebody recorded like a couple of voice memos, like minutes of— and it was kind of tea-filled, like I lived for it. But Bravo took it really seriously because it was like a huge breach of privacy. Well, Andy Cohen has finally exposed who solved the Summer House leak, and it is an A-lister. So Andy Cohen revealed that the Oscar-winning Bravo superfan Jennifer Lawrence— wow— was responsible for solving the case of the Summer house reunion audio leak. And he said on Watch What Happens Live, there's been a lot of speculation of who that Bravo superfan was, with a lot of people assuming it was Jennifer Lawrence. And he continued, and I just want to say, Bravo super fans are the best.

You rode with us on this. You knew that this was bad and that it was leaked and that you wanted to see it when we presented the facts. Bravo fans are the most loyal and the most dedicated. And they said that Jennifer Lawrence's online sleuthing helped the network catch the person who leaked the audio. Page Six reached out to Jennifer Lawrence's rep for comment. They haven't heard back. Um, I just want to say there was a lot of speculation that it was Jennifer Lawrence. Like, people just made that up online. Like, it was so— and then, and like, Andy like never spoke on who. I just want to say, like, I think he's lying. Like, I know that's crazy, but I think that because I remember hearing Andy talk about it on radio being like, you know, we made this whole big deal about who solved the audio and like now I can't really say. And I don't know, I just feel there's this really convenient rumor that it was Jennifer Lawrence, and like they can't prove that it wasn't, so yeah, it was Jennifer Lawrence.

I also don't understand, like, how could she have figured it out, right?

And that's what I mean, in his Watch What Happens Live admission, he didn't say how she did it. With some online sleuthing? Okay, we can all do that. Like, why Jennifer Lawrence?

But online sleuthing of what?

Yeah, no, he gave no context. I kind of feel like he's lying. I know that's crazy.

I'm with you, right?

That's your conspiracy theorist.

But like, why not? Why not us? The kid next to me last night, the entire time, all he was— he was looking, he's like, why not us? Why can't it fucking be us? Why can't we do this?

That's why Nick's like, so like everyone was so like self-pitying.

He was really though. I, I think he manifested it the whole time. Yeah, he was like, why not us?

The whole arena was packed with them, but we were in a particularly crazy section.

Can we talk about, are the people behind us okay?

No, like everyone's commentary.

And so funny, like, no, not the commentary, them making us stand up when they had their own row.

No, like New Yorkers think that, like, I guess New Yorkers just like talk loud so they think that nobody can hear them, like the commentary around us was just like truly fucking crazy. There was like an actual crazy person 3 rows in front of us. It was extremely entertaining. But when vibes were low, like in the second quarter, we were down by like 30 points and like nobody could score for their lives. It was dark. Like these, like everyone's emotions were just like, so you could feel them.

Yeah, it was, it was crazy. The highs and lows of a lifetime.

It was almost like I was almost about to be so annoyed that I was going to get home at midnight. The Knicks lost by 30. We spent money on tickets. I was about to be so fucking annoyed. And it just turned— it was really— it was amazing. It was amazing.

Literally when— and you will find out more on the Patreon blog— when Brett came up to us at halftime, he's like, I'm so sorry you're at this game. And then as I left, he's like, you're fucking welcome.

That— yeah.

If you're not watching, I made a roller coaster with my index finger.

It was really— I'm sure my Oura ring— I got to check my stats. That's—

my heart rate was through the roof. By the way, we need to go hydrate. Is that what you're doing right now? Yeah, I need like a stick or something.

Yeah, we're not like— no, we need to stay.

I need my electrolytes. I'm really just—

we went to bed at midnight. No, we went to bed at 1:30. Like, that's insane, you guys. And I couldn't even sleep when I got home. I was just like sort of revved up.

I could have stayed up all night.

Yeah, and it wasn't even tired.

No, I wasn't tired. I wasn't tired. I'm tired now. I wasn't tired.

Well, thank you for joining us. Like, seriously, perfect timing.

Yes.

Thank you guys for watching. Thank you so much for listening. Tomorrow Jackie's back, so we'll be regular scheduled program. Can't wait to repeat everything I said here to her tomorrow. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast of the Morning Show. We deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So watching us on YouTube, please be sure to subscribe, give it a thumbs up, sub it, listen to us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube, wherever you listen to podcasts. My name is Toscia Fester. I hope you have a beautiful, stunning, and wickedly talented day. Thank you, Ben. Make sure to listen to Good Guys. Follow Ben on Instagram for more insane content, and we will see you on the next one. Love ya. Bye! Was deine Haut braucht, ist was deine Haut braucht. Pigmentflecken reduzieren und vorbeugen durch innovative Wirkstoffe und höchsten UV-Schutz. OIBOS Anti-Age, dein neues Duo gegen Pigmentflecken und Hautalterung. OIBOS, individual skincare.