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Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday. But it's not just a regular Thursday. It is a celebración, an extravaganza, for the Nicolandria Truthers. That's right, welcome to the, the boots on the ground podcast, the people who have been saying what needs to be said for almost a year now. And you know how much shit we took for it?
Yeah.
And just to turn out, we were right. We often are.
Do you think they intentionally waited to put out the statement until the toast was up?
I, I don't actually.
I feel like they might have, like, they— I mean, it doesn't hurt to wait to get the breaking scoop, like, to have talked about it yesterday. I'm obsessed too. And just because, like, they broke up— like, couple, real couples can break up and doesn't necessarily mean that like they were never a real couple just because they broke up. But if I were on like Team Nicolandria, this is exactly when I would break up, like right after the season of Love Island airs.
Everyone's talking about the batons, like Trinity and Bryce.
You can sort of like slowly fade, quietly fade, but there will be nothing quiet about this.
We're gonna try not to talk about it too much, although I'm quite literally busting at the motherfucking seams to talk about it. It is of course our lead story, and also like the rumors that are coming along with it. So before we dive in to talk about just a subject that's like near and dear to our hearts How are you?
I am good. We've had a morning. We're actually vlogging today, so if you want to like—
we also vlogged last night. We're like such vloggers.
We're such vloggers. We love vlogging. You know, I love vlogging, like in another life.
I don't really have like the arm strength for vlogging. It's just so much like—
yeah, it's a lot of that. I'm also a little shy to like vlog in public, and I think the vlogs suffer because of it. Yeah, I'm, I'm not like—
fuck that shit.
When I went to the General Store, like I could have vlogged from the store.
You didn't?
Well, no, I had the idea after, so it like started in my car. But no, that's like something that I have to work on is if I want to be— As a content creator. If I wanna be taken seriously as a vlogger.
Absolutely. And I just feel that we're at a place, like if everyone in the world was like always acting proper, like yeah, I'd be embarrassed to like be filming myself in public. People pee in public. Like I can film myself.
Yeah.
It's not a big deal.
Yeah, it's true. And then last night we filmed an amazing vlog that's going live today.
And when Jackie and I say that like we are doing things on the internet that no other creators, podcasters, Patreoners are doing, This is what we mean when we say that. Like, we had a live mahjong tournament. Like, who is doing that but us? Me, Jackie, and Ben. And the fourth player was you. It was so innovative. It will be up later today if you're into mahjong. Like, you'll really appreciate sort of like the talent and who wins.
But, and you, if you're not into mahjong, like, we don't spend too much time talking about it.
We're not teaching you.
We're not teaching you. Like, it's more entertaining. But if you know the game, you'll know what we're doing. So it was really fun, and we got to play mahjong, even though I hate playing mahjong before bed.
I completely agree.
I run through lines, flower, flower, flower, in my head as I'm sleeping. And last night I literally had to like do a bunch of stuff on my phone to like get it out of my brain.
I watched 2 episodes of Mad Men after mahjong because I'm afraid of like having mahjong dreams. It's like when Ben and I used to vacation and like we were obsessed with playing blackjack. We would go to all these hotels that have casinos. We'd be up all night playing mahjong— I mean, excuse me, I wish— playing blackjack. And then I would be in bed being like, 10 3, 7, like fucking crazy.
No, no, I hate having mahjong dreams. Usually whatever I do that day, like, some— in some way, like, comes up in my dreams, but it's different every day, so it's fine. But the mahjong dreams are not my favorite. So even though I like playing at night, it's not something I'm gonna make a habit of.
Um, I'm just wondering if I look different to anyone today because you have two new pieces of jewelry. Yes, I do want to close the circle. Like, we talked a lot about what Ben got me for Mother's Day, and while it was really beautiful, it needed some work. I finally got it yesterday from the jeweler. It is— I I don't know if I told you guys what it actually was. It was a ruby diamond bracelet. It was like half ruby, half diamond. I just needed like a new setting, a new clasp, and like a couple of new stones. And I finally got it. Our friend Margo and her mom are jewelers and they made it for me. It is so sick. It's in a bezel setting. I don't know if you can see. It's my new favorite piece of jewelry. And then for my birthday, to match, my sister— me—
this one— you have a lot of sisters, clarify—
a ruby diamond ring. Yeah, that's right. And I'm wearing it today. I thought it was too small, so I like left it in the box. I was gonna go exchange it. Then I was like, let me try it on. Fits like a glove.
Yeah, it's so cute.
And that's why I'm getting a sample size.
And it matches your bracelet.
I'm obsessed with my— like, I didn't realize when you have a child that's like named after a stone, like gem, then all your— so obviously my next child's going to be named like Diamond. Um, I just didn't know that was like a part of the journey. Highly recommend Precious Gemstones for inspiration.
Well, there are beautiful gem names.
Of course.
Jade. Pearl.
Topal.
Gemma.
Opalite. Opal.
Opal is a name, right?
She is so lost.
I think that's a name.
Yeah, like there's tons of inspiration.
Pear.
Crystal.
And you could go pear cut.
Pear marquee.
Lariat.
Love.
Yeah.
Asher.
Asher, what's that?
It's like a shape.
It is?
Yeah.
Asher.
I think so.
Emerald, uh, Lagos.
One, one fine day in Emerald Lagos City.
One of my favorite places to visit, Emerald Lagos City.
Um, so yeah, just like kind of like dripping.
Very beautiful. As far as catching up with ourselves and you, dear reader, we had a party day yesterday, did we not? Oh, I went to lunch with a friend. Yeah, with our friend Margo, who made the bracelet and then gave it to me at lunch. She gave to Claudia. So actually it is very full circle. We had like a very party lunch. I had the Caesar salad, which is very brave considering the lettuce outbreak. So true.
Oh, and let's talk for a minute about the lettuce outbreak, because I think a lot of people were sort of looking to us when the FDA sort of pointed the finger at Taylor Farms for the lettuce outbreak. Apparently they are the lettuce supplier to Taco Bell, and Taco Bell's lettuce was the contaminated, and then they just pinned it on Taylor Farms. And obviously like a defamatory claim if True, huge deal. And I did feel like, as a face of the company, like a little bit responsible. And I didn't say anything, obviously, because it's not my fucking problem nor my place.
And we haven't done ads in a while, so like we were doing ads when it wasn't contaminated, right? So like we didn't do— we didn't sell these bags, right?
Right. And we don't promote Taco Bell, we promote Taylor Farms Chop Salad Kits.
But I just want you to know, like when that was true for a moment, which it turned out not to be true—
so Taylor Farms has been cleared, and I just want to say I never doubted them for a second.
But when it was Taylor Farms, nobody suffered suffered more than us. I had Taylor Farms salad kit in the fridge that I had to throw away. I was so excited for my Mexican Street Corn Fiesta salad.
I think I would actually argue that the people who suffered more than us were like the people who got diarrhea.
No, but like, when it was Taylor Farms, like, who's affected? We were affected.
And I just never doubted them.
But it was—
I never figured out what it was, did they? Like, they pinned it on Taylor Farms and they said never mind.
They still haven't figured out what it was, and that's just not gonna fly.
I know, I just feel like it's gonna be one of those things that like quietly goes down and we'll never find out like what truly happened.
No, but like now Taylor Farms like needs some good PR. They actually should have us do ads where we let everyone know that it wasn't Taylor Farms. Yeah, and they didn't contract us to do that, but as like a good brand partner, I'm gonna use this moment to let you guys know Taylor Farms has been marked safe from the diarrhea outbreak. Yeah, so have I, so have I, even though I had a Caesar salad yesterday, which I wasn't gonna order because of the romaine, but then the person next to me ordered it and I was like, that's what I want.
I actually think that most of restaurants in the Hamptons, because we are like in farmland, do source local. So you are safe, you would hope.
And then I had a tuna crudo, and then we were having so much fun, I got a cappuccino and biscotti, and we continued catching up in the middle of the day. I love a nonfat cappuccino. And you know what, that's what I needed was some caffeine in the middle of the day. Like, it's a long day.
You're a mama.
My one Nespresso is not cutting it anymore, so today I'm on my second coffee.
Wow, shake, shake, shake! Shake, shake, shake.
So yeah, it was inspired by my cappuccino yesterday.
Um, what did I do? Because obviously like I wasn't invited to lunch.
She was very much invited and she very much declined.
Yeah, I was gonna go but then like things just got crazy. And when you came back and we're talking about like how much fun you had, like, and you came back with my bracelet, I like did sort of wish that I went. But like, it's fine, it's fine. Um, what did I do?
We did a little shopping, walking around. Don't worry, I didn't buy anything.
I don't know, you bought a Lunen Water this morning.
I did. So I did have to take out a mortgage for that.
You guys, this water— I just want to say we are not involved.
Every influencer, every influencer is an investor.
We are not involved. We're just sort of, um, spectators, and we had to see what the hype was about. I got one once too. Yeah, and I held on to the bottle like for a month and I kept refilling with like my electrolytes. Like, it's like a big expensive bottle.
Um, I don't know what demon copperhead of water—
I don't know what makes it different. They had it at Deer Media IRL because I think Michael Bostick is an investor. And when I tell you I brought like 4 home. Yeah. It's like, what is with this water?
I don't know, but then you— when you spend so much money on it, you're like, oh, I have to finish it.
Of course.
And I gave you some in your glass.
Yeah, look, you guys, look, I drink the last water, but no one will know because I have this glass.
No, but I'm going to make sure she drinks every last sip.
George glass. I never really like got into The Brady Bunch. Obviously it's before our time, but like, what do you mean?
We loved The Brady Bunch. I think I'll go for a walk outside now, the sun is out calling my name. You hear me now? I just I just can't stay inside all day. I gotta get out, give me some of that sun.
I don't even know where this is coming from. I've never seen them. Sunshine day, everybody seems so happy and gay. I literally don't know where I know this from, and I've never seen The Brady Bunch ever in my life. Here's a story of a lovely lady, of course, who was zaning on two pieces of my bread. What's the, um, When we were in camp, we would say, here's a story of a lettuce and tomato that were sitting on two pieces of my bread.
That's probably like a, uh, your other camp thing, cuz I don't know that.
Okay.
Your other camp. You went to one camp that I didn't go to. Mm-hmm. So that's probably where you learned that. Mm-hmm. But you know Brady Bunch and of course, sure, Jan. Sure, Jan.
I watch such bad shows.
And what about Marsha? My nose.
Marsha, Marsha, Marsha.
You know Brady Bunch.
No, I know, I know like classic stuff.
We watched so much when we were little. We did.
I don't remember that. That's so sad. And Cindy, the little one. The little one. Yeah, I guess.
And the mom, Carol.
Yeah, I guess in a sense, in a sense, I know The Brady Bunch, but like, I don't have any memories of ever watching it. Like, what channel was it on?
That I don't know.
And it was at that time, it was like reruns.
Like, we watched it on like tape. On Yeah, that's how big of fans we were. That's just not true.
I don't remember any of that. Yeah, I can't believe it's Thursday. The week has flown.
It has. It started slow but it picked up.
Yeah, and then Alondra broke up with Nicolandria.
Yeah, and they should have done it on a Friday.
No, I think that— I don't think they wanted to sweep this on. This whole relationship like has been to catapult them to fame, and it was successful, and a breakup is big news. It's lots of headlines, it's lots of Google SEO.
I don't know how other people are feeling about it, and I've always said like she should free herself from Nick Landria, then she could, I don't know, find a boyfriend and be single and like find actual love. And like, but now that we're, you know, auditing Nick Landria because they've broken up, it's not—
you would believe her?
No, no, it's not making her look good. I've seen like a lot of tweets that are like, you left Love Island with like no man and no friends, and like everyone else's friends You know what, let's just dive in.
Okay, let's dive in. Because I have a lot to say and I don't want to say it.
Do you feel adequately caught up? I feel like we are.
Well, I don't want to be accused of like shielding my personal life because I take those comments and allegations like extremely seriously. Um, so let me just think like—
We had an amazing dinner. Ben made stir-fry coupled with the things he made.
Oh, Ben made like a Chinese buffet.
Yeah, he did.
He did like deconstructed egg roll.
He did like, um, like noodles and Asian—
Peanut noodles.
Peanut noodle chicken rocks.
Like my belly was hurting afterwards. I ate so much. I had to like sit down on the couch and recline.
Our stomachs were full and our smiles were wide. So that's really all the catching up. Plus we did film 2 vlogs since you've last saw us, so like everything else is in the vlogs.
And the next time you think of accusing us, try being an influencer for a day.
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Our first story: Nickalandria, Alandria Carthan and Nick Vansteenburgh, break up one year after meeting on Love Island USA. So A rep for Nicolandria confirmed to People magazine exclusively that they decided to part ways just over a year after they departed the Fiji villa together. The source said, quote, the distance between them and their busy schedules made it challenging to maintain their fraud— I mean, I mean, connection. They still remain close friends. They share a deep love and respect for each other and will always support one another whenever possible.
Okay, I mean, obviously, like, the show has ended, and I'm not talking about Love Island, I'm talking about their relationship. I think it's been very interesting to see people's reactions because like we're just coming off a season of Love Island where like we were told we had the worst takes, right? And we were the people last season saying like, why are you guys voting for Nick and Alandria? Why are you guys voting for Amaya? Like they're both fake couples. And we got so much hate. We have said from the moment they were still in the villa, not even that they left the villa, from the— we've been saying this is a fake relationship. We got so much hate for it, like people like calling us such haters. Meanwhile, now everyone's reaction— if you read the comments on any public— because of course the second this was announced, I got tagged in 1 million TikToks, Instagrams. I love that everybody thought of us, but all the comments were like, duh, PR relationship is over. And it's like, well, now, now everyone's saying—
no, now everyone's saying— and then Jumoah like posted some old DM she got about how Nick was with a girl at Coachella holding hands. He can't see—
and that this person like ran into Nick and Alandria and they were like being really rude to each other.
They can't stand to be around each other, which actually, like, maybe they were in a relationship.
No, but it's like, you're posting that now.
Yeah, no, like, you're brave now.
Like, why? It's not brave now.
Why not say when it's unpopular?
And like, and that just makes me feel even better because I just know next year, like, people are going to be talking about Carl and Anaya the way we've been talking about them. Like, the voting public of Love Island— and this is just further proof— like, they're wrong about everything. And I feel so good that everyone hated our takes, you know? Yes, I feel that way as well, because we have been saying since day motherfucking one.
Yeah. And the real couples from that season were Ace and Shelly, and we never really wrote for them because like Ace was sort of problematic. Yeah, but, but they were a cute real couple. The fact that they didn't make final 4 is insane. Insane. And then Iris and TJ, which turned into Iris and Pepe, but the Islanders, another bunch of morons, voted TJ out even though they had a strong connection just for some more fake relationships.
Yeah, no, like 'Once again, I feel good, like, about what I contributed to Love Island last season and this season.' But even this statement, like, is not a romantic relationship.
And I feel like Nicola and Andrea, they don't outright lie because they just talk about their connection. There was this clip of them saying, 'We're dating.' And so yeah, like, if the two of them go to dinner, I guess that's considered a date. They don't say, like, you know, they don't kiss, they don't actually pretend to be in love. They really operate like business partners. So the statement, 'The distance between them and their busy schedules made it challenging to maintain their connection. You're still saying connection. So true.
By the way, it's a very manipulative statement.
They still remain close friends. Yes, they've always been. That's the whole thing. Business partners. They share a deep love and respect for each other. Of course I share deep love and respect for myself. Yeah, of course. And we'll always support one another whenever possible. Yes, they've been supporting each other for a year. There's nothing about that that's an actual relationship breakup.
Yeah, that's actually an amazing point. Also contextualizing this, thinking about the interview that they just did Where she's recent. Yeah, that clip where she's talking about being loved out loud, and it's like, you're being loved out loud, you won't even call him your boyfriend in the breakup statement. And also it's a fake relationship.
Like, no, and we didn't see love out loud. We didn't—
oh, they were never together.
We saw him loving Sierra out loud. We saw him— and now, by the way, there are so many tweets that are going about so much discourse, throwing Sierra under the bus, Sierra backing it up, and then running it forward again.
But then the people who are now talking about Sierra are the people who like rode over her with a truck last season.
And then, so after that, then we saw him being a friend to you out loud. That's what we saw. I didn't see love.
I never saw love. I actually saw you guys making out and agreeing to that there's no connection between you.
And then I saw the last few episodes where you guys understand that the fans have been rooting for Nick and Landria, and you guys want to give them what they want. And you like each other and you're friends, and you want to make the finals. His connection's not there. Like, you're done being embarrassed by Taylor. So— oh, and Taylor and Clark were the other real connection.
They're still together.
That, um, that didn't make the finals because everyone like can't get over them.
The fact that he like chose her over Orlandria. Right, which is what you're supposed to do, test your connection. It's like, test your connection, test your connection, but don't—
yeah, explore, but don't—
right. Um, yeah, they're like, they are still together.
Yeah, so that's what I saw. I saw friendship and business out loud.
Yes, I never saw love out loud. And the fact that that interview came out, what, like 2 weeks ago, and they break up, and I didn't even read the statement because like, seriously, who cares? Like, they're broken up. But you're so right about the choice of words.
Yeah, that there's not a lie in there. And even so, for the last few episodes, they talked a lot about like their connection, you know, that seeing it at first, and not necessarily like lying like, I'm in love with you. They don't kiss or anything.
They don't kiss, just like talk. No, but even in public, like, they don't kiss. No, they hold hands and they take pictures.
I saw a funny, uh, like tweet or something that she had her birthday recently, I think was at her like new apartment, and a lot of her family and friends were there, and like he's on the end of every photo so he could be cropped out of any year. In a day, right? Very easily.
There's really not much to say when you've been right, you know, except of course, I told you so.
Her ending one year out with no friends from the villa when she was an OG villager— she had close friends, she ran that villa, like her, Shelly, and Sierra. Yeah, is there a good look for her?
I agree.
When all along I thought Nick Landria was like, you know, Nick is the problem, I think he's a user, I think he's— I actually think he's disgusting.
I agreed. We can't even talk about him without talking about Sierra. Like, he's actually legit a bad person for that. So yeah, we've always focused on him.
So— and she's just a queen. She is a queen, and she, she handled herself amazingly. Like, she— and she's so beautiful, and she's so mature, and like wants a real relationship. And so she ended up in this business partnership, whatever. Like, you— but like, that's good.
Now, like, when the dust has settled, you're right. Like, there's something suspicious about the fact that all the girls are on vacation right now without her, and these are girls that they weren't even friends with him in the villa, but now they're friends. Like, they were not friends with Clark.
There are multiple pockets of friend groups. She could be friends with— like, she should be friends with Shelly because that was her best friend in the world, but she's not because Sierra—
she— Shelly and Sierra are really good friends.
But so like Shelly chose Sierra. She's not friends with like the Iris, Hannah, Hannah cohort. Andrina is always around.
Andrina and Clark— there are a lot of different friend groups and they all like make content together, they go on vacation together, it's so cute. Yeah, um, weird.
So that's what I'm saying, like in this audit it's not reflecting well on her when this entire time I've thought like he was bringing her down. She's so above him and she is so above him, but like, now I don't know, the whole thing has sort of like sullied her good name.
And at the end of the day, Nicolandria at its core was just genuine dishonesty, and that's never a good look.
Fraud.
Fraud. People have gone to prison for worse. I mean, for less.
Yeah, and if I were like running Nicolandria Incorporated.org, TM, I would say right after the next season of Love Island airs, we should break up. That's what I would say, right?
It's a little obvious, honestly.
They should have waited another 6 months, or like right before the season aired, so that like people would be on to the next thing.
It wasn't a— it was obviously a choice, like the timing, and I think it was actually a bad time to choose.
Yeah, but now the streets are saying that she's been hooking up with Travis Scott.
That's what Dumas said. And it's like, Dumas, look, keep pissing me off. Isn't the whole point of what you do to like share these titillating things that you get that might shock the public?
Still titillating.
So like, yeah, sharing that they were mean to each other at Coachella, like, now, well, we know they broke up, thanks for that. But that would have been helpful to know at Coachella. Yeah. So like, sorry, her and her like last—
you could have used a backup here.
Yeah, right. It's just, it's not brave to like go along with like, Nicki Landria stans, now they broke up, being like, yeah, I also heard it was fake. It's like, that's— you're supposed to be like the, the hint person.
Yeah, it was—
it's like lame as fuck, honestly.
Yeah. And then she reported today, which she probably just got today now that everyone's talking about Nicki Landria, that Alondra is hooking up with Travis Scott for months, allegedly. So like, I just feel that, which is maybe why they're finally breaking up, so that first of all, maybe it's like getting close to coming out. If she steps out with Travis Scott, that's better for like her stock. Yeah. And maybe she wants that because I think for not only Alondra being Stormi's stepmom, I mean, think about the dinner, like Stormi's graduation. It's with Timothée, Travis, Alondra, Kylie, and Timothée at Stormi's graduation.
Obsessed. Same.
And you know Kylie loves Love Island.
I mean, this is what we have wanted for Elandria.
You know Kylie loves Love Island. Yeah. She probably loves Elandria.
This, when we've talked about Nicolandria at a glance over the last year, like this is what we've wanted for Elandria. She is on another level. She can start dating much more eligible, famous, wealthy men. So like this is exactly what we wanted for her, but I don't know, I'm just not feeling good about it.
About Travis Scott?
No, about the whole thing in general. Like I wanted them to break up and I wanted her to date Travis Scott. Like everything that I wanted to happen is happening, but it just happened in a really like dishonest way.
The way I thought I would feel about her when they broke up is not how I feel about her.
I thought I would feel like, yes, she's free. Yeah, but now it's like, well, you're both liars. Yeah.
And the fact that she doesn't have like friendships from the show doesn't—
it's a red flag—
well on her. And she's just always doing everything alone. Yeah. Everyone's doing everything together. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like people are starting to to turn— which I don't need us to like turn on her or anything, but at what point like does the cost of Nicola and Andrea come home to roost? You know what I mean?
1,000%. Like, this is so serious to me. Like, this is so—
and like any other fake Love Island couple that goes really far or wins just because one of them is really like— that happens every— Amaya and Brian, like, break up 2 weeks later, we don't care.
Like, okay, the show's over, we don't—
yeah, they took it so serious so far. They really thought they were like doing something. Yeah.
And they were, by the way, until a point, cuz like while I was onto them, I'm more media literate than the average person.
A couple weeks later, we're like, the distance, it was too hard. We're better off as friends.
The people who believed them would've stayed believing and like would've just rest in peace, had a, a quiet ceremony. It's true. They gave everyone too much time to doubt them.
And, and I do feel in that year, in that year we're seeing just like public appearances. Mm-hmm. Not couple content.
No, not love.
No.
Like, they were on the COVID of Glamor magazine together. Like, if I'm the editor of Glamor, like, I'm embarrassed. Like, I got duped. I feel like overall Nicolandria, like, was a test for people. I passed. You passed. The toes passed with flying colors. And if I'm a person who failed, like, who even for one second believed that they were real, like, I'm taking a hard look in the mirror. Because like I said, this is serious for me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we can only hope to, like, learn from this.
I don't need to learn anything. Neither do you, of course. But I hope others do.
Definitely. Yeah. And I'll be curious to see the couples at the reunion because so far Karlan and Naya like are— everyone is— at least Karlan and Naya kiss, you know, and like they are like, they are in a sort of couple. But it is like the same thing where she— the fans are obsessed— he went to Casa, chose someone else, right? She stayed, chose him. Then people became obsessed with the relationship. The producers like produced their way into Karnaya, and let's see what happens next. Though I do think there is a little bit more romance between those two. I mean, there is. They kiss and they like make out at night. Yeah, I read Nickelodeon, it's just like paper, separate beds, paper. Yeah, so that's the end of Nickelodeon. I will miss it.
I won't.
I will miss talking about—
I will miss being right.
I miss talking about them. Yeah. And he's just—
he's spooky.
I like— I'll never get over it. I know, I know. He'll never make it right.
Yeah, I know. He, to this day, has never spoken to Sierra.
I would love to talk to Sierra.
I know. I do feel that she's healed. Like, it took a long time, but she talks about it like in vague ways. I follow her on TikTok. Um, she's just— she's just a really good influencer too. She makes amazing content.
She does good makeup, good outfits. I was just looking at her content. I follow her, so I see a lot of it a lot of the time, but not all of it. And like the videos that she makes, like by this—
on the beach doing her makeup, it's— that's like her thing.
You guys have to watch these videos. Like some people just have the content bug. Yeah.
And we just— we all moved on from that too quickly. Like his biggest crime is not even the fraudulent relationship, it's what he did to that girl.
Yeah, of course. No, it's that you could be in a fraudulent relationship, I don't care. Of course. Like, you all had bills to pay. Yeah. Okay, so you're friends and you just want to like you know, make some money. Yeah, Sierra.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story? Hmm, where to go, where to go?
Oh, she's lost.
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City's Whitney Rose, Justin Rose breakup after 16 years of marriage.
Are you gonna be okay? I know how much Justin Rose means to you because he looks like Hannah Brown.
Hannah Brown, I love you. I know you're watching. Yeah. Um, yes, no, I'll be okay. This is just like, I feel like when couples like go through such hard times and like don't break up, then I'm genuinely shocked when they eventually break up. And I feel like last few seasons they've had like really hard like financial issues and changes in their marriage with like her being the breadwinner and the whole dynamic that they like got married under changed when she became a housewife, as it normally does. But I just thought they were so solid. Like, this is— if you had to guess like the next couple that would split in Salt Lake City, I just wouldn't think it would be them.
Actually, like, just because there are a lot of good marriages in Salt Lake City, like I think that Meredith and Seth do have a good marriage, I think that Lisa and John do. I actually might have said Whitney Rose just because they have like a freaky like backstory, like like they have a big age gap, um, and she is so different. That happens a lot, that you just become different.
That's true.
Like, you just change as a person when you become a housewife. And yes, financially independent and like, but just like famous. Yeah, it changes who you are, I think, a lot of the times, like at your core. And sometimes you change into a person that your husband hates, or you change into a person who hates their husband. So yeah, and I feel like she actually has changed so much.
That's a good assessment. So the news is that this— the two have separated after 16 years of marriage. Um, they have not spoken out publicly about what led to their breakup. However, their ups and downs, including job losses— his job loss, failed business ventures, and financial troubles after he put all of his money into her business— um, have been thoroughly chronicled during the last 6 seasons.
Even though, like, when you're having financial issues, kind of the worst thing you can do is get divorced because it's so expensive. You have to split everything. It's like, we only have $1, like, now we have to split it. Um, so I like I just think it's a good financial decision.
That's very true.
It's really bad for like your finances to get divorced. Like even for wealthy people, you become temporarily poor.
Yeah. Okay. I have to catch up on Salt Lake City because I wanna watch the next season. Like a lot's happening, like between it. And I also like wanna know like why now? Mm-hmm. Again, you know, we talk about this a lot with like couples who have been through a lot, who have kids and it's like, what changed? What was like the final straw? Yeah. Because it, it does feel like something had to have happened. Their financial issues started like many years ago. Agreed. It's not that like divorce isn't going to make it any better. So like, why are they getting divorced? Who wanted the divorce? Who do you think wanted it? Whitney. Yeah, me too.
Just a guess.
Yeah, always sad.
Yeah. And I think also maybe it's because how like the franchise is still new, but I do think that if you've been on Housewives for a long time and your marriage has survived like drama and rumors, like you're pretty set. Like especially if you're an older woman. That's why I think Whitney's like also kind of young.
She's still like, you know, 39.
She's still a butterfly. She's still cocooning and changing.
And butterflies are really like the metaphor of the summer.
1,000%.
It's a butterfly summer.
But like, I think with a lot of the older housewives, once they make it through like 5, 6 seasons with their husbands and they're tested, like, it actually ends up being good for marriage if you make it through. Yeah. And so I don't think that one, they've been tested, like, well, they obviously like were tested and failed. And two, like, she's really young. I think if you're like really sure of who you are— I remember when Melissa Gorga came on the podcast she was talking about how like she was a housewife, like she did not make any money, and she was like really happy being— and then she became like really independent, was like going out to events. And I think that like a lot of times like that can happen and it tests your relationship, and like you fail or you succeed. And I think like Teresa and, uh, not Teresa, uh, Melissa and Joe like succeeded. Because if you watch the early episodes, he's like toxic, get in the kitchen, and she's like, wait, but I'm toxic, like male chauvinist.
And then like the, the format of their relationship like changed and gender roles, and it's like you're home with the kids because I gotta go out. And there's definitely growing pains. And you see that and it's like painful, but it doesn't mean that it has to end. Like, you could reformat yourself, right?
And then of course, like, Joe Gorga got himself famous. Like, it all worked out well for them. But I think maybe that's kind of what happened here, because Melissa Gorga was also young. So like, she was like still figuring out who she was as a mom and a woman, and then this thing happens and you're famous. And Jersey, like, they really blew up.
But like, Justin Rose, like, seems very—
I don't know what Justin Rose seems like.
Except for there was a weird scene, right, with Lisa Barlow.
What?
Like, he— like, they got into a fight.
I hate when the men get in fights.
It's like, and it was like, and he like, like spoke nasty to her. Like, she like came at him like ranting about his wife, but like, doesn't matter. Do not get involved.
And he sort of shouldn't—
he started to like barked at her.
Very Kent Todd, stupid woman.
Yeah, yeah. And especially because he's like seems so jovial and like kind-hearted, and it was just a little awkward. Even though like she started, she asked for it, right? It doesn't matter. Like ranting, it doesn't matter. You're just supposed to stand there. You're just supposed to stand there.
Speaking of the men of Bravo Juicy, Andy went, um, Instagram a fish with his boyfriend. Like, they posted such a cute picture. And I do feel— and you know what, somebody tagged me in a clip. You know Hoda? She like started that like media company or whatever. She like does a show in the back of a car. It's like sponsored by Toyota. But, uh, they were talking, she had Andy on, and somebody tagged me in this clip where he was talking about how he loves his job so much, but he went through an era where like he got, um, like a lot of data. They do Bravo like like Q-score tests and focus groups, whatever. And they got a bunch of feedback that it seems like Andy on Watch What Happens Live was like checked out and just like over it. And Andy was like, that was such a reality check for me. Like, I have the best job in the world. And you know, he does feel like he's done a little bit of a— yeah, I was shocked that he shared that. But he was like, yeah, the data, like, people were— the feedback was that like I felt kind of checked out.
You mean the toast?
Literally. And he was like, the second I heard that, like, it just— it hit me sideways, and I realized, like, I have the best job in the world. I don't know, like, what I'm complaining about. And he's been, like, totally recommitted to it ever since.
I'm in shock. How did I not see that?
Because it's on this, like, random sponsored show that Hoda does in the back of a car.
I feel—
I'll find the clip.
I feel personally attacked.
And it was not about you. They ran, like, actual focus groups.
So he says. But literally, we said that.
We're not the only people who said that. Like, it's so obvious. He's sort of cutting people off, shoving them out the door.
Like, I guess so. But, like, it could have just been, like, you know, the streets are saying, and it's us.
No, no, he said we are the He said Bravo gave him like formal data research from the streets of the toast.
We are the streets, by the way.
Literally.
Yeah. So Britney Rose, Britney Rose, just the best. Goodbye. Are you ready for our next story? Aaron Dessner is setting the record straight on Gracie Abrams' song Death Wish. He said it's definitely not about Taylor Swift. So weird that he's addressing this, but as we discussed earlier this week, Gracie Abrams has a song on her new album Death Wish that has some people, mostly me and Liz Woods, wondering if it's about Taylor.
Yeah, I'm not putting my tinfoil hat on for this. Like, I don't believe that it is.
Yes, and like, there was other things, you know, she performed it in 2025 and she said it was about boyfriend, but he addressed the rumors and nastiness. Um, he set the record straight. He said, um, the studio version predates the live recording by several months. We wrote it actually the week that we recorded That's So True and I Told You Things and other songs from Secret of Us Deluxe. In the wake of Daughter from Hell coming out, people were like, wait, what about the original version? This is the original version. Regarding speculation that it's about Taylor, he said, yeah, definitely not. It was written at a time when Gracie was writing about a friend's ex being in a bad relationship.
Okay, he is sort of like parroting her.
I just want to say, like, I can unders— I can accept that it's not about Taylor, but writing about friend's ex. Like, it's just so— and it's such like a strong song. Like, I don't have that strong of feelings about my friend's ex.
I don't know, actually, uh, Meghan Maroney's like number one hit, that like the first ever song she wrote, is about her friend's boyfriend.
What song?
He don't make you wonder.
That's not—
that's the only part that I know. It's complimentary, by the way. Tennessee, and it's because it's her friend that just got married.
So she like— I saw that her wedding speech like went viral, that like, you know, I guess Gracie's young, so like her friendships are like, yeah. And you know, like, young girls are always like, and she's looking for like inspiration everywhere.
Yes, of course, cuz as a songwriter, you can't like only bleed out for yourself. Like, sometimes you have to seek inspiration.
He said, so it was for that, about that kind of person, I think. I wouldn't even actually know who the person is.
I'm like, kind of sounds like Aaron Dessner being the one to set the record straight.
Shout out to Hannah Daly at Billboard for asking the scary questions. Just like, did you see that clip from our competitors at PopCast, the New York Times? What did those fuckers say?
No, I'm kidding.
They asked Olivia Rodrigo about like the Taylor Swift left beef.
She gets asked about it actually quite a bit, to ask like face to face on a podcast.
Like, I thought that was like so brave.
And she always gives like the same— yeah, sort of packaged, not believable. Did you see that New York Magazine wrote an article like that literally said exactly what you said about Olivia Rodrigo dating someone in finance?
Yes, I did. And I, I felt very like validated that there— that was their thought as well. And I think the person who wrote it like is like a proud communist. She's a socialist.
And she was like, but I get it, like we basically— we all know how to get dicked down by finance bros. Like it basically what we said.
She was like coming at it from like another angle, complimentary, like as a socialist, like, yeah, but we're saying the same thing. Yeah. And like, we agree. Yeah, you know what I mean?
World peace.
Oh yeah, like, I think Olivia Rodrigo like might spawn world peace.
1000%. You come together, like, and like be together, be one. Yeah, she gets asked about the Taylor thing quite a bit. We never get anything, like, everything she says is so generic.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it doesn't color what I think at all because it's just like PR.
But like, it's crazy to ask her that too.
I know, because like obviously when you sit down with a celebrity— maybe if you— we don't interview people like a lot. Maybe if we did, like you grow a set of balls, because I would be like, yeah, fuck Taylor Swift. Like, I would just be like scared.
Yeah, like saying whatever she said. Yeah, no, you're not—
and you're so right about that. I would be like, yeah, yeah, no, 100%.
And like people thought there was like a little bit of shade in what she said, but of course like you over— she can't get away with saying anything. But She just like, she talked a lot about how it was like, you know, great learning, blah blah blah, and how like she just like, it's important to her to treat everyone like kindness and respect.
And so it's like, well, why are you bringing that up?
It's giving like, I wasn't treated with kindness, she's disrespectful. Yeah, it's giving, you know. But I'm gonna lay off because like there's no good way to answer that question, and like you don't want to be in like Taylor's crosshairs. So like you just want to get through the question.
And I'm sure she knows every time she sits down for an interview she's going to be asked No, I think that's really—
I think it's really inappropriate that you do. Like, I, I love your, your bravery, but I think it's inappropriate, like, to ask about this, like, drama with this, like, big scary artist that, like, there's— say there is real drama, and there is. What can she say? What, you really want her to, like, compromise her career by, like, actually telling you what happened?
Right, right.
And the fact that you say she's asked about it every time, well, then stop asking. You have the answer. You should be watching her previous interviews before you interview her.
We never get new information So it's just bad journalism.
And like, you know, she's not gonna— journalists ask the same question, like when they all ask someone the same question, that just means you haven't watched their like previous interviews. I want like you asking new questions. So while I commend the balls and I personally hadn't heard her talk about it before, like I do think it's, it's not crazy. And it's like, it's not gonna engender them to wanna be on your show when they're being asked like hard, uncomfortable questions. Yeah.
Yeah.
And crossing the line.
And also she was sitting in the middle and like one of them was to her right and one of them was to her left, which I think is just like a really weird setup for a podcast. Cause she was like talking to both of them, like right, left, right, left, like a tennis match. It just I thought it was weird. Yeah. Speaking of, I meant to tell you, I drove past the movie theater in Southampton yesterday and they are playing The Odyssey in IMAX. Because we were saying that like we really want to see it, but they say it's not worth seeing if it's not an IMAX. And I was like, well, there's definitely not an IMAX in the Hamptons.
There is. I'm just saying we could like— sure, let's go.
I just feel like low-key I'm not gonna like it because like I feel like we should, we should see it like for this show. Like what is it?
Like we used to do Love Island like 7 nights a week. A 3-hour movie.
And like, this is going to be like dumb, but like the Odyssey is like a fake story, right? It's like a— just like a made-up story. Yeah, it's about Greek gods though.
There is some—
yeah. Are all the characters Greek gods or like— or are they just Greeks and they're in the horse? Like, I don't really get it.
No, it's not Trojan Horse.
There is Trojan Horse.
Trojan Horse is part of Odyssey.
Mhm. I saw a clip on TikTok.
Are you sure?
1000% sure. Yeah, I love Trojan Horse, where they hide.
Yeah, oh my God, it's genius.
I saw like someone talking about it.
It's Trojan Horse in Odyssey.
Oh, and I made Ben—
'cause the Trojan Horse is Okay, I'm looking at two conflicting things. AI says yes, but only briefly. Odysseus actually devised the trick, so the wooden horse is mentioned during the story, but the event takes place before the timeline of the Odyssey.
Well, actually what I saw was that somebody complaining that chronologically the horse shouldn't be here.
Well, um, I don't want to see any spoilers.
Yeah, okay, like, I, I do want to see it. I just feel like I'm gonna spend all this time watching it, like, I'm not gonna understand it or like it. Like, I do think it's maybe just like a little bit above my—
you're very smart, and like, you're smarter than the average Well, that's true because I didn't fall for Nicolandria, right? So like, I think you'll get it. It's not— it's a movie. It's a movie. Like, they wanted to appeal to the masses. I think you're not giving yourself enough credit, okay? Nor Christopher Nolan, okay? Like, this is—
it's kind of cute.
No, I don't know him.
Yeah, I've been seeing him a lot like on press and stuff because like when they interview the cast, like, he's there too, you know?
And so like, is Alandria gonna be going to the premiere with Travis Scott?
Probably. Like, I'm ready for that.
I just want that. What is life?
That's what it should have been all along. Yeah. She really got in her own way because she should have been going to premieres and things of that nature with him long ago.
Yeah, trips to the Cape.
Exactly.
Glam bakes. Yeah. Are you ready for our fourth story?
Well, thank you for keeping me in the loop on what number. No, I'm not. Is it our fourth story that's brought to you by Amazon Prime's Ride or Die?
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Our next story is kind of crazy. I don't know if you've seen this. Chelsea Handler laid out her strict rules for family vacation.
Okay, I was so fucking confused. I saw this like 6-page statement, this slide. I didn't know if it was a joke or who she was talking to.
Yeah, so I read all of it and I literally like have put together what I think this is about, but I have no idea.
So she's talking about an actual vacation? I don't know if she was making like euphemisms.
No, she's talking about an actual vacation. I guess she takes a lot of vacations she brings her family on vacation. She has 5 siblings and then all their kids and nephews, like, combined. Um, and she— they all go on vacation together to her various homes in LA and Mallorca and the Vineyard. And she, I guess, wrote them a letter chiding them for their behavior on vacation. It is very, very long, but I will read some of it so you can understand the tone. Out of nowhere, she posted this with the caption It's my family— it's family vacation season, which means it's time to reread the rules. If you want a vacation with me, these are the rules. To all my nuggets, I want to start this email by telling each of you, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, and F, that I love you for all different sorts of reasons, and there is nothing any of you could ever do to get me to unlove you. It can never happen. So it was with great love and hope that we can use this as an opportunity to get better at being together. Our family is dysfunctional, and that's what families are.
What we need to work on, however, is Manners. There was a definite shortfall of manners on this trip, and I left this trip feeling embarrassed and taken advantage of. Say hello to people who are working in the house, who are delivering something, or who work for me. You don't have to have conversations with the housekeepers or workers, but you do need to acknowledge their existence out of my— out of decency and respect. This goes for my home in LA or Mallorca, the vineyard, or wherever we happen to be vacationing. She said— these are the points in bold— but these— she said, I treat my employees like family, and I expect you to do the same. You know, if someone's carrying boxes, help them, whether you're a boy or a girl. Open the door. It's a nice and decent thing to do, to be a conscientious— to be conscientious of the others who are also on the vacation with you. Girls, be kind and thoughtful to my guests. Do not roll your eyes repeatedly or even ever. Then she said, do not consume copious amounts of alcohol on multiple occasions. Uh, do not complain about food while you are eating it.
This happened at every meal. You are not at home, you are a guest. Clean your plates after you eat. Don't put them in the sink and don't leave them where you ate them. Open the dishwasher and put them inside. Do not litter on the grounds of someone else's house. She talks about how they rented the house and how would the owner feel with beer cans everywhere. How do you think these people would react to their property being littered with beer bottles? Do you think they would ever want to rent to us again? Um, I understand that not everyone wants to— and this is just slide 4 out of like 8— I understand that not everyone wants to hang out with their family 24/7, but I'm going to require that when you are with the family You are not on your phone or playing video games. You have the entire day to do what you want. You can make the time to be present with the family for an hour or two at night. Uh, she goes on in detail about how they should behave, what they have been doing, um, how she loves, you know, treating them to these trips, and it's a big financial burden for her, and she pays the cleaners, and she pays for this and that, but she expects people to act at a certain level.
Now, oh, and by the way, the bottom of this, the pages says, I'll have what she's having. So I believe this is an excerpt from her book that came out in 2025, based on like what I've tried to cobble together to understand this.
Yeah, okay. So I think that those are good rules. I just don't know why she's telling this to us and like blowing up her family spot. Like, genuinely, she— like, based on what she's told me, like, your family is piece of shit. Like, that's like— why would you ever want to paint your family in that light? Like, if that's actually what happened, like, good on you for sending that email. Like, these kids need to know, be nice whatever. But it's like, why the fuck are you telling me this?
Why is it in your book?
Why is it on your Instagram?
On Instagram, it is very, very odd. And yeah, if you're treating everyone to a trip and they're not acting graciously, they're not saying please and thank you, they're leaving dishes and garbage on the floor, then I guess it's mature of her to like write this email and be like, if you want to continue to go on these trips, like, this is how it has to be. But I don't know, I would say like maybe don't take everyone on trips. But then she said she now does like adults-only trips so she can be with her siblings, and then she does like trips for the kids.
No, and like, that's all good, but like, why are we talking about this?
I don't know.
Why, why is this now a topic on our podcast?
I don't know. Chelsea Handler's family vacation dynamics and like just— you know, like, why?
Family looks so bad. Like, you make them look like actual animals.
Yeah.
And I'm not doubting that any of this happened. Like, yeah, they need to start talking to you. Like, kids can, you know, be bad.
I didn't even know who these people are. Now I know her siblings' names and, and they have all these kids, and like, if I'm their friend at school, I'm like, no, what did you do? And your family's really weird.
I didn't understand at all what I was reading, and I did try, like, I took like 5 minutes, like a swipe and stuff, and then I stopped caring. And like, now that I think I know, um, okay.
And maybe she's like saying it so like people will share it as like, okay, these are really good rules for family vacation. And like, they are, but it's just like so harsh, and it also creates this dynamic of of like, I pay for everything.
Yeah, I know.
These are my rules and every— all of you fall in line. And that's just like a weird dynamic.
I agree. Like, when you are the wealthy one and you, you want to be gracious, like, if everyone is acting like an animal, like, you sort of do have to throw in like, yeah, bitch, I paid for this.
Yeah.
But if you're like holding it over everyone, it's like, this trip sucks.
Like, putting it in your book and putting it on your Instagram, like, yeah.
No, this is weird.
I think it's weird that she put it on her Instagram.
Uh, completely agree.
Yeah.
Completely. Yeah.
And then our fifth and final story, a Julie Andrews documentary is coming to Disney Plus.
You know what I was just thinking the other day, and like I know saying this out loud is gonna get me like, like shit, like I've never seen The Sound of Music. I know.
Turner, you would love it.
I know, and every time I'm looking for a movie and it comes up, I'm like, Ben, you know I've never seen this, like let's watch it. And he's like, no. I do wanna watch it.
We should watch it as a family 'cause like—
The kids will love it.
The kids will like it. It's so beautiful.
What's like the song from it?
There are so many.
Oh, the hills are alive with the sound of music.
For sure, but also raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens.
Oh, Edelweiss, right?
Edelweiss.
Yeah, I need to watch that shit.
Do-Re-Mi.
Of course, Doe a Deer.
What song isn't from it?
Yeah, and I know she's in other stuff, but like the story is just so—
Mary Poppins.
She kind of needs a documentary. I love that.
Yeah, Princess Diaries. I don't know if everyone knows this. I am being reminded myself that she voiced Lady Whistledown in Bridgerton.
I did not know that. No, she's like a low-key queen.
Legendary.
And I think that kids these days, myself included, like don't even know the breadth of her work. I find it interesting that like in everything that she's in, whether it's like 100 Years Ago or like Princess of Genovia, she looks exactly the same. Like you're telling me that in Sound of Music she's what, like 17? She looks 87. Like she's like eternally old.
Yeah, but maybe that's just like because of the way people like looked then.
Yeah, also it is like the pixie cut. She's had the pixie cut not just in old age, she's had it forever. Yeah, I'd love to see her with like a, like a loose wave, you know, beach, beach wave.
Yeah, I think this is gonna be great.
Totally. I didn't know like Disney+ was like doing documentaries, do you know what I mean?
Yeah, um, it's the same documentarian who did Billie Eilish's documentary, and I very sadly missed that. Also The September issue, which was very good. That was a production company. They also did— you never saw September issue?
I don't think so.
Oh, so good.
I do think that it will be well executed.
Yeah.
And when I think of people who like need documentaries, I never would have thought Julie Andrew. Did I tell you guys I watched the Martin Short documentary?
You did.
I liked it. I've thought about it a couple of times. Like sometimes I watch documentary and I never think about it again. Yeah. But now I just—
do you want to like add it to your list of documentaries? No, no, no, that you talk about.
But I also talk about Eddie Murphy's documentary a lot.
Not more than Martin Short. And okay, is there anything you want to add to the list?
No.
Okay, the list will remain intact. Yeah, just Lady Gaga, Five Foot Two, and Katy Perry, Part of Me, and Shawn Mendes.
Well, no, that's the other list, the bad one. Documentaries that didn't need to be made. Shawn Mendes, Wonder. Here, do you want me to tell you? It's literally one.
I don't need to write it down, it's just Hold on, let me just search, um, 5'2".
Oh, because we definitely have this.
Yeah, we do. I know I do. 5 foot— did I do numbers?
You might have done 5 like quotation too.
I hope I didn't. 5 foot— just write Gaga.
Okay, Gaga.
Here it is.
Don't reverse piece of work.
It's under the file of Claudia's repeated stories, and then it's celebrity documentaries. Shawn Mendes versus Lady Gaga.
It's, it's perfect. Like, documentaries that needed to be made and documentaries that did not need to be made. Yes, that's Shawn Mendes Wonder. Like, literally nobody needed that. Nobody in the whole fucking world, even Shawn Mendes's number one fan, didn't need that. But even Lady Gaga's number one hater needed 5 Foot 2.
Yeah, yeah.
And like, 5 2 is— can be swapped with Joan Rivers' Piece of Work.
Oh, 2 perfect—
just 2 perfect documentaries.
That is just— yeah.
And if you're looking for Joan Rivers' Piece of Work, like, you can only watch it on YouTube and you have to buy it. And I do own it.
It's in the Hall of Fame.
It is in the Hall of Fame.
It might be the number 1 documentary of all time.
I know, I could literally quote it. Like, it's so good. Yeah. Well, those are the fast stories, and I feel as though you definitely need to know the first one just to like remind everyone that we were right.
You needed to know the second one that Whitney Rose and Justin Rose, like things we were right about. Yeah, I was just like searching Nicolandria on Twitter because I like want to know what the streets are saying.
They're, they're doubting, right?
Um, yes, there's definitely a lot.
No one's like grieving the loss of this relationship.
Oh no, I saw like, I saw someone.
Well, there are like the people who started the whole Nicolandria fandom and like those fan edits during the season. These were two people, if you're not familiar, they were online.
I don't want to put this person on blast, but that's—
I can't stop shaking. I put put so much love and effort into Nicolandria and this happens. I think this is satire. They literally saved my life and I owe them so much. I don't have— I don't know how I can survive this. That's satire.
Are you sure?
Absolutely. That's funny.
You never know.
I know, especially because like people who— Nicolandria was like, I'm created out of thin air.
I thought that was real.
No, you're funny. Well, that's our show, you guys. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast on Monday Morning Show. We do the fast 5 stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So watching us on YouTube, please feel forget to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast everywhere podcasts can be found, such as Spotify, TuneIn, Stitcher, Public Radio, iHeartRadio, CastBox, all the places where you listen to podcasts. Vanessa, Josephine, 5 Star Beauty, and I'm beautiful stunning, and Wickedly Talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing day, and we will see you tomorrow for Friday.
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1. Olandria Carthen and Nic Vansteenberghe Break Up 1 Year After Meeting on Love Island USA (PEOPLE) (18:06)
2. RHOSLC's Whitney Rose and Husband Justin Break Up After 16 Years of Marriage (E! Online) (30:49)
3. Aaron Dessner Sets the Record Straight on Gracie Abrams’ ‘Death Wish’: It’s ‘Definitely Not’ About Taylor Swift (Billboard) (37:18)
4. Chelsea Handler Lays Out Her Strict Rules for Family Vacation After a Previous ‘Shortfall of Manners’: ‘It Is Not a Free-for-All’ (PEOPLE) (49:36)
5. Julie Andrews Documentary Flies To Disney+ (Deadline) (55:07)
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