Transcript of Summer Charm is Blind: Friday, February 21st, 2025

Good morning, millennialss, and welcome back to The Toast. And... Happy...

Friday. Happy Friday.

She didn't lie. It's Friday. And it doesn't even feel like Friday would have had such an amazing week.

It's such an amazing Fridayries. I feel like somebody who says Happy Friday in earnest. I want to walk down the street and say, Happy Friday to my fellow man?

I don't know if I feel in that good of a mood, but I definitely feel like I'm saying Happy Friday in earnest. The weekend is ahead. I'm sad because I am leaving town today. My time has come.

She is truly. She already looked for flights to extend. They are sold out, so she is going.

You know, I'm really going- Her bags are packed. Jackie, you took the words right out. She's ready to go. I'm standing here at the studio. I hate to wake you up to say good morning, millennials.

I do love to wake you up to say good morning, millennials.

So that's the only thing putting a damper on this otherwise party Friday.

Yeah, but we're going to make the most of it. We're going to soak up each other's awesomeness while we're still together.

I'm going to soak up your awesomeness. Now, that song is sung by Sheryl Crow, Jules.

Sheryl Crow, period.

They're all the same. Do you know what I mean? That genre.

I don't know why you would want to go down to Sheryl Crow Rabbit Hole. I don't. I think we did it a few months ago, and it was fruitless. It was a fruitless endeavor.

We also have so much to fucking do today.

I don't want to talk about Sheryl Crow. Sorry.

No, but what I want to talk about, Love is Blind.

Is Sheryl Crow the one that dated John Melen camp for a hot minute?

I ship. I don't know.

Meg Ryan. Oh, yeah. All the same. Sheryl Crow is the Meg Ryan of singing.

We have so much TV to recap today. We have the Fast Five stories. I am pretty much, I want to say, sub 30 minutes all caught up on the pod episodes of Love is Blind.

That's so crazy. Well, I'm all caught up on Southern Charm. I watched the last two episodes. The Bahamas are on and Siena is off.

Let me just tell you. I saw Siena was also making some news. Did you see her TikTok? She's sharing receipts, Whitney text messages. She's all on TikTok. No. That's why for the Southern Charm stand in you, you need to get on TikTok.

What is she saying? What does she have to prove?

You know this is not English to me because I don't watch a show. So I don't know, but everyone was talking about it.

But the only allegation against her is just that she doesn't like Shep. She just doesn't like him.

I don't think she's fighting that. I think it's It has something to do with Whitney.

Whitney had said that they matched on Raya. He didn't say that they were together. He said they matched on Raya.

I think what she wanted to share was text messages from Whitney.

Oh, maybe Whitney was up her butt.

Maybe it wasn't just a match on Raya.

Okay. Whatever. I actually don't care.

I'll download and send it to you. Somebody please tag me in it and I'll send it to Jackie.

Okay. Thanks very much. I'll give you a little Southern Charm recap at the end. I watched a tiny bit of Love Is Blind as I fell asleep last night, but nothing really of note, except I did see all the stuff that you described with the golf and the work.

Oh, cringe. Yeah.

That guy's going to pick her even though the other girl maybe is the better choice, but he's so sexed up for her.

Mason. Yeah. Now I pretty much know everyone's names, which is such a relief. And I do want to tell you, I'm going to recap and you're going to have to be okay with the spoilers. I don't care. And you know what? Maybe you could just skip to episode 6. I have to tell you what happened.

I can't do that. Just I can't change a song in the middle. I can't just skip over a whole episode. Once I established a couple, I could fast forward through couples I don't like, but I have to do my research. I'm sorry.

Okay, fine.

And I do want to say- But I don't care about the spoilers because I don't care about this show. So go off, queen.

To the toaster two days ago who said, Jack and Claudia, you can't stop watching it. One, because we need the recap, and two, because it gets better. I believed you, and I was right. It does get better. The show is so good. It's literally the dumbest, worst people on the planet being dumb and losery. And that's my joy. Why I would want to strip that from myself? I don't know. I'm so happy to be almost caught up. I haven't gotten to the Instagram thing, but I can pretty much from eyes based on social media. And this particular season is not amazing. So I'm happy. I go on Twitter and I spoil stuff for myself. Usually, I'm really precious about that. Not this time.

Yeah. It's a nice, freer way to be. Not constantly duck, dive, Dive and dodge in the spoilers.

Like burdened by the shackles of spoilers.

Dive deep, dive and dodge.

I heard there was some drama this morning on your commute.

There was drama on my commute. So now that I have my I'm like, I can't go to the parallel park button. The world was my oyster. I was like, I could drive in New York City. I can parallel park. Like, queen, go off. I went to the grocery store and I parallel park just cuts.

Nothing stands in your way.

So this morning I was like, I'm going to get the best spot in the whole village.

But the village was popping today. My spot was gone.

Your spot was gone. My spot was gone. The spot that you saved, all the spots were gone. But then I drive further down the street. I see Koja's, and there's a spot behind you. So I pull up next to Koja. I go to my screen to hit my P button, and it's not there. And the car is not registering that this is a parking spot, and I can't press the button if it's not registering.

So I think it needs to be the most obvious foolproof spot in order for that thing to work. And those are the spots that we could do. That's when you don't need the button.

No, it was very odd that that one wasn't coming up, that first one. Then I skirted around. Then they told me there was parking in the back and there is a back entrance, and it's actually probably a few feet closer. So I tried and I did that. And then when I was in that parking spot, of course, everything was coming up P. So I don't know what happened. It definitely makes me realize that you can't rely technology for everything.

Without technology.

But I'll just go back to parking in the parking lot. Okay.

Right. I heard you also use the P button in the regular parking lot, though.

I did just because I was like, I wanted to do something. Like, prove yourself. Right. Peace of shit. And not only did I use the P button, it backed into the spot, which is something I've never been able to do. So when I get out of here, I'm out.

She could seriously just like, Cruise out of here.

Yeah. So that was cool. Redeemed itself a little bit. But no, embarrassed me in front of my in front of my coworkers. Everyone came out of the building to watch the self park, and I was going to be like, Look, my no hands. And I was embarrassed. So no.

That's terrible.

So all in all, it has been a great week of commuting, though.

It really has. Can I totally ask you, It's a random question? Do you know who Robbie Hoffman is?

No. I didn't think that you were. Tell me who he... It sounds like not completely unfamiliar. So give me a clue.

This is she.

That's the first clue. Okay, I knew that. Okay.

You know, you've definitely seen- She did something recently. She was on the good guys.

Okay, no. What else did she do?

She dates Gabby Wendy from The Bachelor.

That's how I know. I think they have a podcast together. I think people said that you looked like her in your sunglasses. That's why I was just on her page.

So people this week have been like, Clotilde, you look like Robin Hoffman. And Ben just met Robin Hoffman because she came on the Good Guys, and Ben was obsessed with her. She's this former really Orthodox Jew who has taken on this new era of her life. She's still actually pretty religious. They had talked about it. She's really interesting on good guys. She's in a relationship with Gabby from The Bachelor. I think that's how a lot of our listeners would know her.

What's her trade outside of being Gabby's girlfriend? Stand up. Okay. She's a comedian. She has a job. Okay, because you were just saying she's a former Orthodox Jew and Gabby's girlfriend. It's like, so how'd she end up on the good guys?

True, true, true. It didn't sound like they even had Gabby. She has a trade. She has a skill. No, they didn't have Gabby. Everybody was saying all week that I look like her because of the glasses, but I think she wears her hair in a low slickback bud.

No, I had to go look when they said that, and I saw what they were saying.

It's giving Robbie.

Yeah.

You know what? These days, if you're comparing me to a thin person, I'll take it. Right. So yes, call me Trobby.

Okay. Except be careful with your comparisons because you just never know when it goes down in dark, slippery, slow.

There definitely could have been a time in my life where people comparing me to Tim Dylan would have upset me. You're comparing me to a man.

That's different. You're just wearing sunglasses while podcasting.

They're not saying you look like him. Also, I'm less fragile than that these days.

Yeah, but that was different. That's different than being like doppelganger. No one was saying Tim Dylan's your doppelganger. They were just saying you both podcast in Yeah. Groundbreaking. Truly. Groundbreaking stuff.

And the stories, if you had to describe them.

It was a slow start, but they came together. That's beautiful. And Houston, we've got a show.

That was us this week. A slow start, but we came together.

I actually feel like we came out of the gate with a bang, all week, firing on all cylinders. It's true. We really crushed it. Studio, studio, studio. Last week, a week ago, we were in Miami. Game soon. I'm in Miami, bitch.

I thought you were going to say, The Clean Version. I'm in I thought you were going to literally sing the clean version. I'm in Miami trick.

I didn't even know that that's the sub.

I just said the cuteest video. Actually not. Who gives a shit? I take back the sentence.

The thing is we have so much to do today that we can't just go down tangents about a cute video that you saw.

No, and also, nobody cares about the cute video you saw.

Relevance? Yeah.

And I'll tell you, there's a little bit more context why I swallowed the sentence, but I'm not in the mood to get into it. But all in all, it's important to know when you're about to say something uninteresting. It's never too late to Turn, turn the beat around. It's never too late to stop sharing the uninteresting thing you were about to say. And I just did that. I'm woman enough to admit not everything I say is interesting.

Especially on a busy Friday when we're catching flights, not feelings.

Correct. I'm excited to see Romeo.

We're catching a little feelings of missing you.

Yeah. I didn't get a chance to say goodbye to you and Olivia's kids. I didn't know the last time I saw the kids was going to be the last time. Was going to be the last time. Because I really was like, I'll probably extend. But I didn't. And now I'm not going to see the kids.

It's probably better I'm not big on goodbyes.

Well, here comes goodbye.

It's more of a see you later.

Wait, don't... Sabrina Carpenter ruined that.

Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened. Don't smile because it's over.

And then she made a song the opposite. But don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened. We got a beautiful week together.

It's so true. We went back to the beach yesterday. So Kristen Cavalari and Steven Colette coded, and we had a really nice, lovely time. We're becoming geach people I'm trying to tell you bitches. I'm your water sign, of course. Correct. I'm not. I don't love the ocean like you do, and we do live close to the ocean, so we should go more. I'm definitely- Open. Ocean curious.

I love that.

Oceanic curiosity.

And you're so natural. You love, especially for your kids.

It's true. All the vitamins you need in this world are at the beach. At the beach.

The saltwater is good for your hair, for your skin.

The sun, the vitamin D, the sand. It's a natural exfoliator.

It's true. I'm surprised you don't like the beach more and all of it's free offerings.

It was extra crazy that they closed the beaches during COVID, when you think about that. So true. All we needed... Vitamin D was going to be what got you through. And instead, we closed it off and said, Stay in your house with no sunshine.

I also didn't know you could close a beach. Do you know what I mean?

It's like you can't close the air. No, it was a bit much. It was fucking crazy. It was a bit much.

That's another thing about the Wedding People, the book that I'm really struggling to get through, is she references a pandemic a little too much for me.

Well, if you finish the book and to the Redheads, we discuss that. And this... Do you want to just spoil for you what we said? Because one of the Redheads was like, Why did she have to talk about the pandemic? It's really annoying. That's what happened. What are we just not going to write books between 2020 and 2022? We had I live it. We have to talk about it. Also, some of the things that happened during COVID affected people's lives in terms of- Like the girl in the book. She was depressed. She was depressed. The other girl was a COVID bride. She got a divorce. She became a bit of an alcoholic.

I just think books that reference the pandemic in a real way need to have a little symbol on the front so I know to stay away from them. Like, yes, I lived it, and that was enough for me. This stole some of the best years of my life, and I don't want to fucking read about it.

I'm open to things that represent it in an honest way about how it really changed people's lives. What? We're not going to write books about World War I because it's a drag? I don't think so.

Okay. I'm glad you brought that up. I don't think people who lived through World War One were picking up books about it a few years later. That's what I'll say. Time in place. It's not the time. Maybe our children will want to read about the pandemic. I don't think they People in World War One might have said that, too, that our grandchildren are going to be reading about this terrible time.

Yeah. Anyways, I actually didn't mind it, considering I don't like reading about the pandemic. Some of my least favorite books were about it. But that's what happened. We've got to talk about it. If you were a young person- Things that happened? If you were a relatively young person during that time, your life changed in some way. Maybe you had a breakup, maybe you had a divorce, maybe you came an alcoholic, maybe you came a depressed, maybe you're a COVID bride.

Maybe you lost weight. Some people lost weight.

Maybe you gained wait.

Well, we did.

So I actually liked the way that she did it, considering it could go either way.

Should we dive in?

To the stories? Oh, yes. But I also just wanted to say something about what we were talking about yesterday about the Bebas family, because I think after yesterday, we thought that that was the beginning of the end of the story and the grieving could begin. But then last night, it came out. They were identifying all the bodies that came back from Gaza yesterday, and the babies were positively identified. The mother's body was not the mother. It's just some random woman.

They can't identify who it is.

It doesn't match the DNA of any female hostage, even the bodies that are still there.

And then they confirmed this morning, Hamas. Like, Yeah, we did that. It's not her we know.

Where is she?

I have no fucking idea.

So it's not over. And I feel like some influencers maybe breathed a sigh of relief yesterday if they got away with never posting about it. It's not over. The world needs to put so much pressure and speak out. Where is Cheri Bibas? As much as I saw 40 million people post all eyes on Rafa.

They don't even know what that means.

They don't even know what that means with their AI generated photo. Where is Sherri? Influencers, you are not off the hook. 100%. Speak up now more than ever. And it came out that also the babies were killed by their hands.

They weren't shot or anything. They were killed.

They were murdered with their hands a month after they were taken hostage. So you're not off the hook. Keep up The energy. We'll keep up the energy. How about you guys fucking start? Because I'm sick of it.

No, I am, too. I've gone to a place- I saw a lot of performative activism. Don't pretend to care about anti-Semitism. If in moments where it really counts, like right now.

If you said anything about Elon and you have not said anything about this. You're the last person I want to fucking know.

A hundred %. I'm a hundred %. Glad we're aligned. Do not only speak about anti-Semitism when it serves you as some social justice warrior. When Jewish children are murdered by terrorists in cold blood with their own two hands and you can't speak up. You actually have an anti-Semitism issue within, and I highly suggest reflecting on that.

At the very least, if you have that issue, don't pretend to care about some made up shit that you saw.

1,000 %.

Just stay out of it completely. Yeah. But hopefully you care a little bit.

No, it's just an upsetting- That two babies were kidnapped from their home.

Their mother is missing.

Ripped from their mother's arms and killed by a couple of barbarians, not even affiliated with an organized- Not even like terrorist's TM. Yeah, not affiliated with an official terrorist organization in the region. No, just like local civilians.

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Our first story in honor of Chuy is actually giving us a lot to chew on. Okay. Megan Markel is teasing her first as ever product launch in a memory filled vision board.

That's so funny. I saw the vision board, obviously, because Megan's content is the first thing that pops up for me, and I didn't receive it as a product tease. I actually didn't even know what I was looking at.

She teased that she may be releasing a rasberry spread as the first ever product of her new As Ever rebrand.

Oh, that Easter egg went completely over my head.

She took to Instagram Thursday night to share a photo of her personal memory vision board, which included three white As Ever labels with rasberry spread written in the her. She also hinted at the launch earlier this week when she had said Jam is her Jam, and she shared an Instagram Snap of a luscious bunch brunch spread featuring two unlabeled jam jars. The mystery of the jam. But I want to pull up the vision board because there's a lot of clues. It's giving Taylor Swift.

It's a cork board. It's a cork board with-Different things pinned to it.

Photos, a real-life Pinterest board.

Quotes, chips to the cape.

Here are some highlights, if I may. Top left, the biggest thing that you can read. It says, Farm fresh eggs, carrots, two ways, sweet treats. I just have one question.

How many ways can you eat a carrot? What business you What business you all in? Is this a food company?

Wait, then some of the other things that are written that we can read. One, stay close to people who feel like sunshine. Next, happiness looks gorgeous on you. Next, you cannot make everybody happy. You're not a jar of Nutella.

Okay. Now we've entered Chugalicious territory. Chugalicious Millennial.

Not to spoil the ending for you, but everything's going to be okay.

I do like that quote.

So I love you with all my butt. I would say my heart, but my butt is bigger.

Oh, excuse me. Oh, excuse me. Oh, wow. Excuse me, Megan. Now, I'm obviously left with questions.

There's also some photos, some that look like stock photos, others that are like, black and white of Megan and her children. There's a little illustration of what looks to be Megan and Harry, and honestly, Bruno right there. Some pancakes that look like a little man or Mr. Potato head. California 33, like a highway sign.

So it's just the the esthetic of the brand. California, natural green, chewy.

But there is also some Tigg throwbacks. Memorabilia. Because all of those cool cards have the Tigg logo on the bottom. And then another one is Signature Tigg cup, and it's a little recipe. So there's tigginess.

I really don't know what to say. Did you see the company that's also named as ever getting involved? Of course, I did.

That's so classic. Of course, I did. That's classic. Honestly, this wouldn't be a story if they weren't doing and I'm sorry for them. It's giving road. It is giving. Do you know that that company went out of business? I do know that because a lot of times when I'm affiliate linking my road products, road comes up first and I click it and they're like, Sorry, we're not working anymore.

Yeah. When Hailey Bieber announced her skincare line, this dress company named R-H-O-D-E was like, That's our name. People don't understand that you actually can have the same name for a company if the company sell different things. So Megan's trademark on As Ever Jams or whatever the hell it is, does not infringe on As Ever NYC, which is a jacket company. Yeah. But they're obviously loving being the victims, posting on social media, as Ro did the dress company as well. It's people's favorite tropes to play into on social media. Like, A celebrity stole my brand.

If I They had a small business and a celebrity named theirs the same. It's amazing for your small business. One, it's great for SEO. Two, then you get to make this video, They stole my brand. And then everybody hears about you and feel sorry for you. It's a boost.

Yeah, for sure. I do feel like it's a trope that's getting a little tired, at least for me.

When I saw it, I didn't even really write it. I'm like, of course there's as ever. Any word there. Someone's trademarked it somewhere.

Unless it's your name. Monique Lulier. Even Road. I'm sorry. No, your first and last name. Monique Lulie. Okay, that one you can have.

But what if two women are named Monique Lulier? You can't have your own name.

And they both want to be business owners. I think it's rare.

What if they both want to make dresses?

But they can't. That's the point. If they're doing the same category.

And that's tough.

Now, this vision board, for me, did not really help in what I'm seeking, which is clarity on what the hell this brand is, because it's giving hodgepodge.

It's giving the word salad of brands, a lot of lettuce, a lot of produce, no meat.

You have to think about how much money went into this one particular post in terms of creative agencies that they hired, social media strategy companies, social media managers, actually physically making the board. It makes me sad because I don't know what the intended effect was, but it's not reading, at least for me. But sound off in the comments. How did you interpret this Picasso?

To me, it's congruous with the mishmash of branding and words and verbiage that she's put out up until this point. And until there's a product, something tangible, I will continue to ask the question.

Never stop asking why.

Never stop asking what business you in. People need to be able to answer that question.

And Can you... Can let's make a prediction. Is this a jam company? Is that what it's supposed to be the whole time?

It's not just jam. I feel like people don't get that.

What about the final jam? Do you think they'll be serving jam?

This is the first jam, and I think hopefully the final jam would be in years to come. I think it's Wares. Okay?

Wares. Oh, W-A-R. I thought you were about to ask me a question.

It's Wares. Jams.

And?

Carrots, two ways. Oh, right. I forgot.

Carrots, two ways.

I think it's jams, recipes, sweet treats.

Jams, right?

The thing is, everything else is extremely fresh. Like, are Can I come into your house to buy it? Jams are obviously preserved, so that can be sold, mass market. But is she going to can other things?

I think the carrots was more a nod towards recipes. I think the Tigg element will be a part of her company. Will be some push, scoop, online web digital recipe curator.

Or a cookbook eventually. But I don't want to buy your cookbook until I've seen what you make.

And the Netflix show is launching when?

In March. And then would the cookbook be called With Love, Megan or As Ever, Megan?

With Love. I don't know. With Ever as Love, Megan.

I'm stumped.

And I don't think that was the intended effect. That's the thing. I think they hired all these different social media companies to tell us what's going on.

I feel like when you are a brand, you have to put out a bunch of things that you do your business, but then also nonsense, just content, things that look nice.

I know.

This is like every single Instagram post that they could have ever posted on one board. Yeah, they shut their load. Seeing it all together shows you that they're actually not saying anything. They actually don't stand for anything. They have no unique point of view.

Well, as always with Megan and her companies, we'll just have to wait and see.

No, I do think it's unique to think that happiness looks gorgeous on you. I feel like that's not universal.

Is that why you started a podcast with me? Stay close to people who remind you of sunshine. Exactly. Me and my dark sunglasses, my black shirt, my black hair, my black You feel like sunshine.

You feel like sunshine to me.

My eternal sunshine.

So another day.

Another clue.

Another clue. Less clarity. More clues, less clarity.

It was Megan in the kitchen with a knife. With a carrot. With a carrot.

With a mason jar. With love. As ever. So We should wait and see.

As always, we pop off.

As ever, we shall wait and see.

Orchard.

Are you ready for our next story? Everyone's really excited about this. Nobody Wants this season 2 has cast Leighton Meester and Miles Fowler. Leighton Meester, the real-life wife of Adam Brody, who's in Nobody Wants This, has been cast in Season 2 of Nobody Wants This. And obviously, she's an acclaimed actress, country strong, gossip girl. She will actually be playing Abby, who is Kristen Bell's middle school nemesis, who is now an Instagram mommy influencer. Ten out of ten idea.

I love this for so many reasons. One, the gossip girl connection between Kristen Bell and... Do you think they ever met during the Gossip Girl days?

Probably at premieres.

Yeah, because Kristen Bell was just doing voiceover work, so she probably was never on set.

She was in LA.

So there's that millennial connection. Of course, it's her husband's show. Also, these two people just lost their house. They need work.

No, this is amazing for the fosters because we were just saying, get late and back in the game, and now she's going to be on this hit show. She'll get to be with her husband, work with her husband. She's a great actress. I love this role. Sounds great. I actually might watch this. Season 2 sounds so good. I might watch season 1 now.

You didn't watch it?

No.

That's so weird of you.

I know. I talk about it all the time. You literally talked about it yesterday.

I know. No, you have to watch it. I told you, it was really cute and good.

The reason why I don't watch it is because I'm worried I won't like it.

Because you hate everything?

No, I just I've seen and heard some stuff, and I'm worried I wouldn't like it, but I want to like it, so it's better if I don't confirm that. In your mind.

I can tell you it was good. I really enjoyed it.

Would I like it?

The thing is, what mood are you in? You're so unpredictable. If you watch it with your husband, I think your husband would really like it. My husband to two. I don't know. You're so unpredictable. You're just this fire cracker.

But I like a light-hearted fair.

That's what it is.

I don't think it's... Would I like it? So you can't even say.

And the thing is, I want to like it. Because we're so protective and critical of anything that represents Judaism in modern media because it's overwhelmingly bad. But I trust Aaron Foster. And obviously, if it was my show, I could have made different things about the Judaism. But overall, it wasn't offensive at all. And I thought it painted us in a nice light.

Okay. So I think now I will watch it, but I'm just letting you know, up until this point, I was worried about that. So I said, maybe it's better if I don't watch it and I can just talk about it. If I did not like it, then I liked it.

No, I think you'll like it. And I'm looking forward to season two as And because I need to see the podcast.

Now it's come up in my life so many times. Yeah.

And their podcast really takes off over the course of the show. So now they're big-time magazine editors.

Life imitating art.

Also, I like that Leighton Meester is joining the show because now she's going to be forced to do press with her husband, and we get nothing from them. They're so private. Now they're probably going to be doing junkets and things.

Yeah. And then Miles Fowler is the other person who was cast, and he is a matza baller's teammate who gets set up with Morgan, who's Justine Loop from Succession and Lucky's Girl Live.

Who is she in Lucky's Girl Live?

The best friend in the city.

Oh, yeah. So he's playing someone who dates her?

Get set up. Who knows what happens next?

Okay. And Matza Ballers, is that their bowling league?

Is that his teammate that's not a basketball?

Oh, yeah. He plays intramural. That was funny. That's so classic. That's so classic. Jewish guy playing intramural league at a local high school. Basketball, 100%. Yeah, I forgot about the Matza Ballers. My husband is a Matza baller. It's called Hale, the League.

I feel like you told us something about Hale one time.

Well, there's two. There's Hale and Rael, the two different Jewish schools. Ben is actually... The thing that I said is that. So there's the Alumni Intramural League, Hale, for two different schools, Hale and Rael. Ben went to Hale, I went to Rael. And if you're an alumni of that school, you can join the League.

And as an alumni husband, does he get to join?

No. When I met him, he was in Rael. I'm like, You're in my alumni intramural league? How did you get in there? Ben, Swindler, networker. And it turns out the commissioner, they take it really seriously, the Commissioner of rail, my high school's alumni intramural league is Abe, who I talk about all the time, his brother. So we had a netbo connection.

Oh, for sure. Yeah.

I think also the league is expensive to run. And if anybody wants to pay the fee, you're welcome to come.

Yeah. My husband just joined an intramural basketball league down here. Did he? Yeah. He plays all the time. He comes back with black and blue marks. He's like, a fight broke out. He came home early-ish because it was usually going later. He came home early-ish. I was like, what happened? He was like, a fight broke out. I had to leave.

Okay. Actually, did I tell the story on the toast? I don't know. The last time Ben... So there's the season, so it's not all year round. So Ben does pick up games. A lot of the gyms in the city have basketball courts. If you show up, there's usually a game going on. And Ben got invited to a game. Oh, yeah. Did I tell the story on the toast? I don't know. And Ben got home early. I'm like, Wait, what happened to your game?

This is what happened to me.

And he was like, I literally walked off the court. I'm like, Oh, John I'm like, Tinch. He's like, No, somebody call me Tubby. I'm like, What? He was like, Yeah, and I wanted to start a fight. I'm like, What am I doing here? And he just left. I'm like, That's very mature of you, but I seriously would have beat the crap out of the guy. And it was someone we loosely know because it was Ben's friend, this guy, and this guy. Text who?

I don't know.

I have to remember, but I hadn't heard of him, but he was from the community. Somebody called him tubby. That's really crazy.

It's like they act like they're not going to see each other at the grocery store tomorrow morning.

No, Ben literally was like, it was so mature. I'm like, What are you doing home early? He's like, I walked off the court. There was some drama. I'm like, What was the drama? I assumed it didn't involve him. He was like, Somebody's going to call me fat. I'm like, What?

I'm sorry. He needs to stay and fight.

Yeah. And then we were looking at the guy. I don't know him, but I was looking up his social media. I wanted to dox him. I was so mad.

That is so crazy. See, there's drama. Anyways, that's very real, all's to say. It's very real. I'm very excited about this casting, and I do think that I'm going to watch. Yeah, I think you should. Bumping it up on the CP.

I think you should on the content plate.

I will support anything the fosters do from now until the end of time. Yeah, Yes.

The fosters have been making news. They're adapting Tinks's upcoming book into, I don't know if it's a TV show or a movie, but it's a sexy smut book about a hot girl in the Hamptons.

I love- Her book hasn't come out yet, and they've already optioned it.

Given their stamp of approval.

Yeah. So I'll support that, too.

Can't wait to give them my money.

I don't give a fuck. I'll support the foster no matter what. I'll do it. I'll do no fuck. All of them. David, too.

You know what? I have a question for the Foster sisters because you know who I've never met? Simon, Aaron's husband.

Okay.

And I feel like he must be this amazing guy because Aaron converted for him.

No, and she wrote a show about him.

Wrote a show. And the whole family loves him so much. Sarah's always posing. And I'm like, he must be an amazing guy.

I'm sure he's an amazing guy with an amazing girl.

100%.

Our next story is some really shocking news. I'm going to be shocked. I don't know if you're ready for this. I'm not. The actor who played Daniel Mead has been arrested for battery, and a shocking mugshot is accompanying this story.

For anybody? Oh, Oh, my God. Give me the iPad.

Daniel Mead is in the slammer.

For anyone who doesn't... If you don't watch ugly Betty, first of all, go do it. I think it's on Hulu. Yeah, educate yourself. He plays the guy who hires Betty and gives her a chance, and he's the best guy.

He's this neppo baby. Yeah, the CEO's son, Caleb Nichols' son.

Oh, my God. If you're watching on YouTube, I'm showing everyone the mug shot. Tim has not been kind to Daniel Mead.

You would have thought it would be because- He's a handsome guy. He's a handsome guy, and I would just say he'd be okay.

He has a black eye in the photo. He also looks like a resident of Whoville. Maybe his face is just swollen. He got punched or something. Yeah. He also looks like he could use a guasha, which I'm feeling a little subconscious about because I have guasha on my face this morning. Everyone's talking about it. And what are the circumstances of his arrest? Who did he assault?

I will let you know.

That's seriously so random. What also is his name?

So he was arrested in Florida on Thursday morning for battery and resisting an officer without violence. He was taken into custody by officers from the Nassau County Sheriff's Department.

Nassau County? It's New York.

I know, but it literally says Florida. At 2: 13 AM local time after allegedly being involved in a bar fight with a woman, per the arrest report obtained by the post, he was then booked into the Nassau County Jail.

Nassau County is also a county in Florida.

Okay, I figured. Nassau County The Oakland Detention Center at 5: 45 AM on the two misdemeanors. The actor appeared to have sustained injuries in the alleged bar brawl as his mugshot showed him with a bruise on the corner of his right eye.

It's near Jacksonville area, if anybody cares.

Who want to see this is Daniel Mead as we know him.

Correct. Correct. Wearing an askot.

Before and after.

Damn. I mean, I guess.

And he's also in every show. He's very much like it. Yeah, he's in a bunch of random shit. That's classic him.

Maybe, I mean, being on a show like Betty is such a A Curse, right? A Blessing and a curse, because it was eight years. I'm sure it was very high paying. It was so popular at the time. It lives in infamy. And a lot of them went on to do great things, America Ferrera. I've got beef between my teeth, Justin. And Danamid, Judith Light, Vanessa Williams, It was really star-studded.

Rebecca Romaine.

Rebecca Romaine, I've never heard. Caleb Nickel. And Mark of Mark and Amanda just won an Emmy for something. He's in a show that I don't watch.

And now they have their They have their podcast.

They have their podcast, and he's in younger. He was the book agent. So everybody's booked and busy except for Daniel Mead. So maybe that's what led to this turmoil?

According to the arrest report, he was at the bar with a female friend who was asked several times by the bartender and other patrons to leave because she was continuously being disrespectful. The situation turned nasty when the woman allegedly began spitting on people before turning to the alleged victim as if she was going to spit on her. When the alleged victim told the woman that she needed to leave, the woman started shoving her, per the report. That's when the cruel Intentions actor, I guess he was also in Cruel Intentions, allegedly jumped into the altercation, knocking both his companion and the alleged victim to the ground.

What's his name in real life?

Eric Mabius. The alleged victim told officers that... Yeah, that's also a good detail to know.

Oh, by the way, classic Cruel Intentions. Yeah.

He was in Dirty Sexy Money or whatever.

Oh, I never watched that show. But yeah, he was on a rise to Fame when those sitcom type- Yeah.

He definitely had a contract with ABC, and they were like, This is our next big star. Put him in. So he allegedly jumped into the altercation, knocking him to the ground. The alleged victim told officers that while she was on the floor, Eric got on top of her- He's the positive football player in cruel intentions. Eric got on top of the alleged victim, and he was pulling her hair, ripping a handful of her hair from her scalp. Multiple people at the bar then pulled him and his friend off the victim.

Okay, because at first, when you started reading, it sounded like he was being a hero. His friend was being obnoxious, but he was defending his girlfriend. But then his girlfriend wanted to spit on another patron, and the patron was like, Can you fuck all the way off? And instead of escorting his friend out, he decided to beat up this woman.

Yeah, he joined in. It was like a girl fight, and he joined in.

That's so embarrassing. Oh, my God.

That's really awful.

Because we were just talking about bar fights as it pertained to Zack Bryant. And I feel like when you're a man doing bar fights, you really need to limit your opponents to other men who are stalky and short like you.

I didn't even know that this was an option.

Yeah, me neither, because there's etiquette around an appropriate bar fight and how to come out looking like a man. When I think about bar fights, I think about, of course, Snucky. She was punched by a man. That's why it was so unacceptable, brought the whole house together. Despicable. Despicable. Oh, my God. Daniel Mead. So important to separate the act from the actor. What are you looking at?

There's a fly. You haven't noticed it the whole time?

No, it's like that episode of Breaking Bad. I know. But you want sunglasses? I can't see the fly. No, it comes in and out.

Oh, here he is.

Here, here, here. Take a pair. You love these. You love those sunglasses. I do. And I tried on a new pair today.

They always find their way back to me. I actually don't like this look.

They really fit your...

I'm not feeling it, but thank you. And that would give me a migraine. I don't know how you do it. It is a little dark in here. No, but the tightness of the sunglasses with the tightness of the headphones.

Oh, I just... I have all my ailments right now. I haven't even focused on my head. I guess my head is throbbing. Yes, thank you for pointing that out.

Our fourth story. Are you ready for our fourth story? Yeah. Okay. Angela Bassett defends her disappointed- Did the thing? She did the thing by looking disappointed after she lost the Oscar to Jamie Lee Curtis, and she is talking about that moment. So I She's been loving this reaction. She's not apologizing for her viral reaction after the Oscars lost to Jamie Lee Curtis. After two years of facing criticism for her facial expression when Jamie won and she didn't, she defended the look. She said, I found it interesting. Interesting that I wouldn't be allowed to be disappointed pointed at an outcome where I thought I was deserving. I love applauding people, but in that moment, I have put in, put in the time, put in good work over time. I didn't think that was a gift. I thought it was a given. This is exactly what we're saying. She thought she deserved to win. She didn't win. Ergo, disappointment. And that's what showed on her face, and she's allowed to have that emotion.

Yeah. Normalized, being nominated for an award and wanting to win it. I just feel like up until this point, people in Hollywood have really been conditioned to say, it's just an odd... You have to be so gracious when you lose. It's okay to want things for yourself and feel like you earned them after hard work. I love that she's saying what we had said, but she's saying in a much more eloquent way. And like, yes, that's exactly what I was saying when we were talking about Casey Masgraves and then Luke Holmes. It's been- Billy Eilish. It's been coming up a lot. It's okay to want things for yourself. It doesn't make you a bad person.

I actually feel like when celebrities don't have emotions over these awards and the person who wins is just expected and everyone else just sits there, it invalidates the legitimacy of the award show because It's like, do you never expect to win? I don't know. I feel like when people actually have hopes and they think they might win and then they don't win, it makes it more real as opposed to when everyone's just like, oh, yeah, that person is going to win because these things aren't fair.

The Yeah, no. It's a competition. Everybody wants to win things.

So I like that.

I like that, too. And I didn't know that this is... Obviously, her Roman Empire, the year she was nominated. And I guess it was a really big deal because she was nominated for a Marvel movie, Black Panther, which those movies don't really typically lead actor nominations.

I think she was the first lead actor nominate for-For a Marvel film.

An Oscar, yeah. Which would have just been a huge deal. So it's okay to want to make history. Why would anybody... I hate this whole thing. If I ever, ever in my life got nominated for an award and I didn't win, I'm mad. You're going to know. I'm going to be upset. I'm also going to be confused. I'm going to be like, She sucks.

Yeah. Both for actors, but also musicians, it's like you get the part, you do the work, you do so good, you're so close. Then if you don't win, it's like you have to do it all over again if you want to win it. Same for an actor, a musician who writes an album. It's like, I put my years worth of experiences into an album, produced it, put it out, marketed it, sing it, went on tour, didn't win. I have to do it again if I want it. The cycle starts over. If I want that, I have to do all that over again.

Yeah. So I champion this rhetoric, and I'm just like, maybe it's the Bonnie Blue in me, but I'm just really over supporting people.

But then when I think about it that way, and that really exhausts me, thinking we have to do it again win the award. Then I'm like, Let's put less stock in these awards because you just look at things you did all of that, and you're going to let that get you down when it's not even a fair playing field to begin with.

That's why also those awards are tough because these are different arts, and they're subjective. Who's to say that one movie is better than the other? Everybody has their own opinions, where it's like, other competitive things, like sports, there's an outcome. The winner has more points. It's more linear. Whereas putting so much stock in the opinions of these freaks who are totally lining their pockets.

Lining.

It's so political and it's so subjective that even if you win, it's like, Says who?

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We do. We do. And that's why the fifth and final story is TV Recaps.

Okay, you want to go first or second?

I'll go first because Summer House is very much in the news. It's called Southern Charm. Summer Charm. Southern Charm is very much in the news right now. So I watched the last two episodes, and I'm glad that I did because the first episode was just them traveling down to the Bahamas, preparing to see Siena. They land at the airport. Chips like calling.

My phone is talk to texting. Recap, First House is very much... It's called Southern Charm, Southern Charm, Summerhouse in very much in the news right now. Watch the last two episodes.

It's your worst nightmare come true. Okay, go, sorry. So they land at the airport. So the thing with Shep and Siena, it's like they're seeing each other. They're not... Chep is exclusive, but he hasn't had the conversation with her. She goes like days, I guess, without answering his text messages. She's just not that into you, but he takes the whole cast down to the Bahamas. She's like hosting and ghosting. I think they should have titled the episode that, but they didn't ask That's a good title. Thank you. He gets to the airport. He has to call her three times before she picks up because she should be meeting them at the airport.

Of course. Sending a car?

Right. No. Then she's like, I'll meet you at the hotel at 6: 45 before they're going to dinner. Where do they stay? They're staying at the Bahamas. The boys have a presidential suite and the girls have a suite. Actually, I'm loving the group of girls together. Taylor is getting... You can see she's making friends. It's Taylor, Madison, my Queen. I just want to say Madison La Croix is my queen. She's a whole lot of women. Just in case I don't find a way to work that in later. My queen. Agreed. Taylor, Madison, Molly, love. Molly. And Sally-Ann, growing on me. It's just the four of them because Vanita missed her flight, and so she'll be there tomorrow. But the girls are really getting along in there.

Not a good season for Vanita. She drowned, and she missed her flight.

Yeah, and she got turned down by JD. Oh, right. So the four of them are getting along and having fun, even though it's so weird because Taylor used to date Shep. Molly has a crush on Shep.

Shep is there with his new girlfriend.

We're all there for Shep's new girlfriend. Taylor Taylor's new boyfriend used to date Sally Ann. Okay. Taylor hooked up with Austin, who used to date Madison.

So all the girls- It's very incestuous.

All the girls like the same guys.

That's why the show is good, by the way. That's what the Vannerpump Rules ecosystem was like for a while.

But we're also all there to meet Siena. She comes up to the boys' suite right before dinner. They're having a couple of drinks, and Chep wants to talk to her. Oh, my God, Claudia. It was the most painful thing. He's wearing his Fisherman clothes because he's like, Siena will help me get dressed. I need her help. Do you get any dress? Like, This girl is not your girlfriend, and she doesn't want to be your girlfriend. You should show up looking nice. First of all, she comes and meets the guys, and Craig is like, I've never felt energy like that from another human being. I had to leave. I said, I'm going to check on the reservation. I can't even explain. The energy was so off. I don't even know what he's talking about, but I will believe it. You had to be there to feel it. Yeah. Then the boys go downstairs. He's in the room with Siena, like trying... He was like, Let's go to my room and you can help me get dressed. His room was a mess, too. It's weird because he's like, Craig's brushing hair. They're so nervous to see Ziena.

You're supposed to be impressing this girl.

I don't know why he would leave his room a mess. He should know better than that. But literally, Craig was brushing his hair because he had had hair like, they're so nervous to see Ziena. She pigs out an outfit for him.

I like how she's rolling them with an iron fist. Like, they're afraid. By doing nothing. It's a powerful thing.

She literally, she picks out an outfit for him like, Oh, yeah, that's really great. She don't give a fuck. He's like, okay, I'll put it on. She's like, okay. And she leaves to let him try it on. His face drops because he's like, why won't you...

Your girlfriend can see you naked.

Claudia, I've never seen this man's face like this in my whole 10 Seasons of Southern Charm. His face drops his crest, and then she's leaving the room, and he's like, Don't leave. Claudia, it was so crazy.

Okay, but this is the journey chef needs to go on.

I mean, that's what everyone's saying. Being humbled. It's a taste of his own medicine. Every girl that he's ever been with, he never gave them enough, and they always felt like that. Even Madison is like, he came after my relationship with Austin for so many years. Of course, I love seeing him go through it, and I love poking at him, too. Even though they're fine now, it's just a taste of his own medicine. It's karma. And as Taylor said, it doesn't taste so good.

Yeah, I agree.

So then they have this really weird conversation where he tells her that he's in love with her, which he's already told her that. And then they're like, We'll talk rest later. So they go downstairs and have dinner with the rest of the group. And On TV, it looked okay. But then the next day, when the rest of the cast were recapping it, they were like, It was so weird. It was horrible. Her vibes are just so weird. They don't know what she wants. And I think, obviously, he doesn't want to be with Chef. She's 26, he's 46. I think she's- Wait, what? She's 26, he's 46.

Shepp Rose is 46 years old?

That's what they said on the episode. Maybe it's 43, but that's what Madison said. Shepp Rose age.

I will be shocked.

44.

Okay, it's a little different than 46, but that's really crazy. Yeah.

So obviously, that's not his person.

Yeah.

And then the following episode, Vanita comes, Whitney comes, Ryan. Classic Ryan. It's Rodrigo's husband.

Who's Rodrigo? I only know the major players.

He's been on the Seasons 4. I never can remember his name, but then last night, I committed it to memory. I was like, Olivia Rodrigo.

Okay.

So now we have Rigo and Ryan were waiting for JT to arrive. That will be a bag of fun. But they're just having a good time. It's definitely weird. Austin and Craig are still fighting, just being girly because they hate each other. And that's about it. Sounds good. We'll see what happens next. Yeah, and Molly's just waiting in the wings.

Yeah, of course. She's just going to be there like a shoulder to cry on.

My queen, she couldn't go out. She had a migraine. Meanwhile, she was just hung over. But that does manifest as a migraine sometimes. So I see you.

Let me tell you about Southern Charm. Love is blind, Excuse me. I was really close to giving up.

We need Love Is Bying Charleston, but okay, continue.

We do. That's a great call. But there's a couple of love triangles, love rhombuses, that now that I know who the players are, and they're clearly leaving people behind, and we know who we're going to be following this season, it's a lot easier to follow. The first Love Triangle Rombus is Madison.

With Ben Platt and Mason.

With Ben Platt and Mason. Now, she very clearly likes Ben Platt better. You think? Yes. In the episodes that I watch last night, she chooses Ben Platt.

Well, that's good for the show because that leaves Mason to choose the other girl. Just wait.

Okay. Madison opened up. She didn't say that she had experienced bouts of depression, but she said, There are periods where I really have no energy, and I can't get out of bed, and I forget things. It was just like she goes with depression. And he was not supportive. She was like, Is that going to be an issue for you? He was like, I don't know.

Oh, when she said that she was avoidant personality?

No, they worked through that. Okay.

They're so therapy talk. Did I miss that? I was on my phone.

I was on my phone so much. Actually, me and Ben rewinded twice because he was being weird. We're like, Wait, what is he being weird about?

She said avoidant, and then I picked up my head back up and he got weird. So I was like, What did I miss? Yeah.

But it's very obvious that she likes him more. And she's going around telling Mason that he's playing two girls. She's literally like, the thing that she's mad at. It's been very clear to me that she likes Ben Platt better, and her and Ben Platt told each other that. She goes to break up with Mason, and she's being so manipulative and patronizing, being like, You had two good things, and you might have lost both. You don't even care. You don't like him. That's really crazy. And then she's speaking on behalf of the other girl, and the other girl really likes him, Ant Farm Girl, Meg. So when she gets back to the lounge and she's like, I told him he might lose-Oh, she's Ant Farm? Yes. She actually grew on me a lot.

I like her energy.

She gets back to the lounge and she was like, Yeah, I told him he might lose both of us. And she's like, Wait, what? I like him. She's just being nuts, and she's coming at it from such a moral high ground. I actually really do not like her anymore.

Yeah, you could tell there's a little crazy there.

Yes. And I actually think her and Ben Platt are perfect for one another.

I actually think they're not.

So the craziest love triangle, it gets resolved.

So does Ben propose to Madison?

Did they get engaged? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So is Mason going to go with Sarah? Oh, I'm sorry.

So then... Yeah, thank you. I'm all over the place. Meg is her name. She looks Sarah. When he's getting broken up with, he does the classic thing. He's like, You know what? I shouldn't have validated you and committed myself to you because once I said it, it really didn't feel right. I think Megan's my girl. Okay.

Say what you need to say.

And Madison was like, Sure. And then he said that to Meg, and she was like, I know she wanted to believe it because she really likes him, but she had too much respect for herself, and I really respected it. She was like, No, I'm sorry, I'm out. I just don't believe you. I don't want to be the winner by default. That's the one thing I promise myself when I come here is I want to be chosen by someone. And you literally, textbook definition, did not choose me. So it It was a painful conversation.

Wow, no one ever does that.

I know. Because they just want to be on TV. I had a lot of respect for her, and I know she really liked him, but I think she dodged a fucking bullet.

I actually think they might have been a good match, except then he might have seen Madison and Guatemala.

Jackie, because the second he saw that he wasn't going to get Madison, he was giving major thirsty vibes. If he was a girl, we would have been like, Thirsty, she wants to... That's him.

But I just want to say that situation was interesting because it's like, if he had chose Madison then saw Meg on vacation, he would have been like, Oh, Meg. And if he chose Meg, they were the same same attractiveness. And I feel like his head would have been turned no matter what because he just couldn't make a choice. It's not because one of them is more beautiful than the other. They're actually exactly as beautiful as the other.

So then my personal favorite love triangle was D. Buck, B. Dot, and Virginia. And it was pretty clear to me that Devon liked Brittany more. Maybe we were just seeing of their conversations, but they really have such a good friendship with the basketball connection. Then this date happens where two insane things happen. The first is that she shares that she is attracted to and sees women, but she'll never marry a woman, and that's not how she sees her life. But he was like, But you're interested in women? She was like, I feel like she was still figuring out her journey. You could just tell the second... He was not into it. People have their preferences, and that's just not his. You could tell he stopped liking her in that minute.

Bdot. Bdot.

But they have a really good friendship. I actually think because they have a really common interest, I think that's more that we were seeing. They were really good buddies. He decides to open up to her about something that he went through. And we watch him tell this story, and we actually watch him say it twice because he also says it to Virginia, the other girl he likes. And the first time I heard it, I was like, I must have missed something because I'm on my phone so much. The show is so dreadful that when the time came that he starts I'm telling Virginia the story, I put my phone down and I listened completely. And I said, Oh, my God, no, I did hear that right. And then I also went to Twitter to see if anybody else was talking about it. Now, the story starts. It's a tale as old as time. It was reminding me a lot of Demon Copperhead. He's an athlete. I think he wanted to play professional basketball, maybe go to college, get a scholarship. And when he was in high school, he suffered a really bad back injury. And that's literally how it starts in Demon Copperhead.

So many young guys and girls in that region. It was getting Demon Copperhead. So he went to all these doctors. Nobody God. Nobody can help him. And so he started to self-medicate, as a lot of people do. And he's self-medicating, and he's having really dark thoughts, and he starts taking two Advil, and then four Advil, and then six Advil. And I'm waiting for him to say it, and then I switched to Percaset and Vicodin. No, then I take 10 Advil a day, and then I take 12. And then a couple of months in, I find myself I'm taking 20 Advil a day. And so he's saying, Ibuprofen. Ibuprofen. And I'm like, So You're taking Advil? You're taking Tylenol. That's what you're over to say.

So Ibuprofen.

Jack, he's telling the story. He's crying, Brittany, when she's hearing the story, choking on her sobs. I'm like, Are you Ibuprofen? Are we talking about Advil? And me and Ben are looking at each other. We're like, What the fuck? Then he tells a story again to Virginia, and he says, 10, 12, 14 Ibuprofen a day. We're like, Is Ibuprofen code for something? Or are you really trying to tell me you overdose I'm Advil. I go on Twitter, people are like, Wait. I thought this guy was talking about Percaset. Jackie, me and Ben are laughing so hard. And then he's like, Wait, 20 Advil a day? That's four Advil every five hours. That's literally not crazy. It's a lot. Then it's like, I think my dad does that. It's seriously not a big deal. Oh, my God. I was reading these tweets wheezing in my sleeve because people were just... We all had this general confusion. Are you talking about Advil? And using the generic term for it, Ibuprofen, is that a code word for something?

No, I feel like if it was a harder narcotic, he would have said people share that stuff on this show. Yeah, of course.

So your big tragedy is you overdose on Advil. I was floored, so confused. And then his love triangle really sifted itself out because once Bertani said, I like girls, that was just not... The choice was made. And he ends up with Virginia. And I actually I think that they might... They have potential.

Somewhat I've seen, I think they've got a shot. Oh, I saw the reveal between. Between who? Joey and Monica.

You mean this? Cut to my camera. The whole time she's squatting, she's like, What is it? She's like, Wait, wait. What? She must have the strongest legs on the planet.

Was she perpendicular?

The whole time she was looking at the floor. She was like the letter L upside down.

When she went back into her room, she's folded over. No.

I actually think she's a really tall girl. I think she's a little self-conscious about her height because she was wearing little heels.

I'm sorry. Sometimes the way that people on the show carry themselves. They are gay. Even Chelsea running. Like her folded over on the floor. She got down on a knee before when he did because she's literally on the floor.

But Do you agree? I really felt like I could see their personalities matching up in their reveal. They're both weird.

I think they're perfect for each other, except I thought that her physical gesticulations and her presence was too much. He probably didn't notice it in the moment, but it's like, that's the thing.

She just needs a minute to... Claudia. Jackie, you're telling me? The squatting.

The folded over. He could rest a drink on her back.

Now, I need to talk about another couple, and they're definitely my least favorite.

I guess all the other time in in the show, she was always sitting. Sitting, right. She wasn't folding herself.

Yeah. And that just might be how... I think a lot of tall girls find themselves making themselves smaller.

It was beyond that. It was no. And also they have bad posture, too.

She was just physically bent over. Crawling on the floor. Yeah, crawling. Totally. Now, the next- Are people talking about that? I am. The thing I need to talk about is the girl with the gay sister and the Catholic husband.

I'm not all the way there, but go So they get engaged.

Her name is Sarah. His name is Ben, and they're actually- But not Ben Platt. No, he's a real Ben. There probably aren't two people less compatible with one another than these two. And I find that so many times we find out after a season, there were actually five more engaged couples, and we never heard about them. They ended up on the cutting room floor. These two were so meant for the cutting room floor. They're so uninteresting. My dad likes steak.

My dad makes really good steak.

And on the big foundational things, she thinks organized religion is the worst thing ever. He is obsessed with his faith.

Oh, it was so weird because he was downplaying. He was like, No, I'm not super religious. I believe in God, but that's about it. And then she's like, Do you go to church every week? And he's like, Yeah. I think that would qualify you as a religious person.

You obviously don't have to be on the same religious level as your partner, but on huge things they really don't agree on. She is this big time social justice warrior. He doesn't give a fuck about anything that goes on in the world. He didn't even vote. Core things they don't align with. And then their personalities are so different. They literally are not a good couple. I don't know why they got together. I don't know why we're choosing to follow them. They are so meant to end up on the cutting your floor.

But you didn't follow Leo and Brittany. I'll never fucking forgive them for that. No.

And the thing is, her social causes are the most important thing in the world to her. So much so that I think she goes into the pods knowing she's about to get engaged. And before he has the opportunity to say it, she's like, I just need to know that these social causes are important to you. When he's literally said that they're not, he didn't even vote. And she's like, I just need to know that you have empathy and that you agree with me. And he's like, Listen, it's not your job to teach me about these things, but I'm open. It was so cringe. Actually, you are not compatible with this person. That's okay. And then we saw their reveal, and it was just like, I don't know why I'm watching these two people. They have no chemistry.

That sounds like my fast forward couple if I want to save time.

Well, the thing is the true fast forward couple is Taylor and Short King. Daniel. Except- But they're the drama. That they're the drama. Now, I haven't gotten to the part where she discovers the thing about Instagram, but they have this conversation that's really weird. Their conversations are so boring. I actually watch them the least. I just scroll on my phone. They're talking about Instagram. And then I started listening because I know that they're the Instagram couple. He's like, What's your username? She's like, T. Hats, or Whatever. And he's like, Oh, yeah, I don't follow you. Nobody asked. He was like, Yeah, because I have a weird memory. I remember people's usernames and their profile pictures. It goes to your stalker. She's like, But you know mine? He's like, No, no, I don't know it. It was such a weird conversation. And I'm sure if there hadn't been that social media drama that comes up, it would have been cut. But it is weird.

Do you think it's weird that if he had seen her and then somehow in the pods pieced together that she's that girl from Instagram, that that really matters?

I have to see. So I still have 30 minutes left in the final pod episode, and I don't know. I haven't seen that drama yet.

Because to me, I'm not convinced that this is a cardinal sin.

Me neither. But I need to see. I need to see that.

I need to see more. She just shares her first name in the pods, really. Taylor. Out of everyone who he can't see a girl named Taylor, how does he know that that's a girl from Instagram? I think it's a little far fetch. That's why I will watch it because hopefully, they make the case as to why this is so crazy.

But I don't think they're so well-matched. I don't think it'll be hard for them to break up. If this is some big scandal or whatever, it's not the great love that we think it is. The final love triangle is between Medical Aesthetic's Dave and the two girls, Lauren, the teacher.

Oh, I haven't seen them in a while. Molly Redhead. I forgot. I I haven't seen them yesterday.

So he is like, I had gotten the vibe that Molly was so his number one, and Lauren could not stand a chance. And he tells Molly that she's the number one. And Molly goes back to the lounge and is really excited about it. And Lauren has such a fucking chip on her shoulder about the fact that she knows who her guy is also seeing. A lot of the girls don't know. The guy side, they don't say a word. Nobody knows. And the girls are like, chit-chatting it up at night, building forts. It was so stupid. They built a fort. And so she just has such a chip on her shoulder that she knows who the other girl is, and she's being a miserable bitch about it, and I actually can't stand her. And it made me start rooting for Molly. And Dave did say, Molly, you're my number one. So I'm like, Okay, so break up with Laura and Sure. So she comes in one day and she's just had enough, and she gives an ultimatum, and she's being such... Seriously, if that was me, I would run from her. I'm like, That's... She was just giving such a Dre cup.

Well, I heard you told you were number one, that you're going to break up with me. And it's like, well, if that's what he said, he said it, and you should save face and break up with him first. She was being so mean when she went in there. But then he's like, wait, no, I didn't say that. Now, he did say that you're his number one. He didn't say he was going to break up with her. Molly went in and was like, he's breaking up with the other girl. He didn't really say that. And he ends up choosing Lauren. I was so confused. He breaks up with Molly, and Molly this whole time has been cool, calm, collected, being like, listen, I want to be chosen. So I'm giving you the space to figure it out. If it's not me, just let me know. But I want you to be happy. And The whole time, she's so cool and she's so chill.

And she's like, They're not a good match, the teacher and the cosmetology sales.

I agree. I actually think he's way better suited with Molly.

I don't think he would last with either of them, actually get married to either of them. But I think he might be happier with his choice for a longer amount of time with Molly because Lauren is just like... He's just like... He seems like a mean guy. Yeah.

She's soft. She is.

She's very- And sensitive. I think Molly has a bit of a thicker skin that would just she could tolerate him more for a little bit longer, but still they wouldn't work out. So it actually doesn't matter who he chooses. One thing I really like- Because he's just not right for this process.

When Devon broke up with Bertani, and she was like, Listen, I think the other girl you're seeing is Virginia. I thought she was going to start saying nasty things. It was like, Lauren was saying nasty things about Molly. The girls are so manipulative. Brittany was like, She's amazing. You're going to love her. It was actually so sweet. It made me like her so much. She went out with such class being like, You guys are actually really well suited. You're going to be just really happy together, and I'm really happy for you. So I really I feel like they were more friends.

That's really sweet. I might have just gotten the chill. Yeah, no, it was really sweet.

I want to admit it. Especially when you see these other women, like Madison, trying to be sweet. Like, Oh, Meg. They're such bitches. They really are. All in the name of being like, I support other women.

No, and a lot of them I see are using their sexuality. They're getting their guys hard. That's how I felt about- The golf. The golf? But other things where it's like, there's the choice that's the sensible choice, and then there's the sexual choice, which I've I've never really seen that before. I've seen people, of course, like Megan Fox comes to mind. That's a way. I'm not going to decline getting engaged to Megan Fox.

Even when you say your job, like when Virginia is like, I'm a former NBA dancer. But that is her job. Ben was like, Is that cheating? I'm like, No.

No, she did that. That's attractive, and she did it. She's allowed to have had a job. If a guy was like anything, or that was when someone was a football player last season, and then she chooses him and meets him. He's the kicker. He's the kicker.

Yeah, right. So I'm going to keep watching. Loving Every Minute. Love is blind. I'll see you guys on Monday. Try and catch up over the weekend so we can be all caught up together.

I will try.

Let's do Queeny and Weeny, our final segment of the week, where Jackie and I just wrap up the week, put a little bow on things, and give out two awards, Queeny of the Week and Weeny of the Week. We nominate two separate people. Somebody who acted like a weenie this week and somebody who acted like a queenie this week. It's a seven-day title. It's not that serious. It's supposed to be fun. We're all good here. Let's start with queenie. We'll start on a positive. And Jackie, would you like to go first or second?

I'll go first because my queenie of the Week is more of an abstract concept and that my queenie of the week is the week. Is Is the studios, is the production, is the commute, is the lady who parked my car? Is the button that self-parks my car sometimes. Just the week in general was so queeny-like, and I could have chosen any one of those things, but just the ambiance of the week, if we can allow a concept. You can.

Concepts are always welcome at Queeny.

First in place or thing.

Mine is similar. It's the studio. Now, I know we just renovated our studios, and we literally spent every dollar we had to renovate our New York studios. I never knew that I needed to sit behind a desk before. I have had such an amazing time here. I'm so glad. I'm going to come visit you all the time, even though this is probably my last trip before I can no longer travel, right?

I guess. But just you're going to come visit me all the time. We're not going to think like that.

And I've had such an amazing time here. I feel like we've made such premium content. I love sitting behind a desk for my mental health. It's been so good for me. Your sunglasses. My sunglasses. The esthetic.

It sounds like we're aligned. Yes.

Of this week.

The week being the queeny.

Yes. It was an amazing week. We had family time. We were so productive. Just really fabulous.

Yeah.

Now, my weanie of the week is Bonnie Blue.

Oh, I was going to say the horse. Yeah.

The whores, yeah. Both of them because they say the other whore is pregnant now.

And they both are faking pregnancies right now. Bonnie Blue is not pregnant.

Is my culture a costume to you?

I actually saw a headline. I didn't click it that Bonnie Blue faked her pregnancy to raise money for someone else's IVF treatment. Then labiaplasty Lily was faking a pregnancy as a role play for a video of hers.

So These women are my weanies of the week because they have gotten to a place now where I can't ignore them. Up until this point, I had seen them peripherally on social media and chosen to ignore them. But now they're unignorable. It's our jobs, and they're in the fore.

They've broken through.

That is really fucking annoying, that I'm forced to We talked about these people. I'm better than this.

It's so funny. We are so aligned. Queenie, the week. Weenie, the horse.

Do you think it's too long for a title? And can you use horse in a title?

You could asterisk the O.

We'll talk about it. We'll chat offline. We'll workshop. Now, while we're in our split screen, let's do something we wanted to do our whole lives.

Okay, and we have a monitor up. Okay. I see I have to pull it back. Pull it back, pull it down. You guys, that's how- No, Jackie, you are doing the same thing you do it in New York, where your hand is angled.

You need to push your fingers back towards the TV.

Go.

Your camera's over there. Yeah, Jackie, your camera's there.

Oh, right. Okay.

Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. Jackie, turn your fingers towards the TV screen. Relax your fingers a little bit. Turn your fingers a little It's it. Okay.

I'm so glad we're doing this. My hand hurts. Wait, wait, no, Claudia, get back here. Wait, let me organize. Hold on. I'm having a really hard time.

Yeah, it's cramping.

No, I'm just like not... We were closer before.

This is crazy. Turn your chair. That's better. There. I'm here. Okay, you're ready. I was going to say, Jackie, you said it, and then you come in. Jackie, twist your... My hand hurts. Can we be done? I got it. No, you didn't. You're literally...

We literally have I'm coming in hot.

Okay. I can't do it anymore.

Okay, that is actually really educational to let me know that it's never going to fucking happen. It's not us. No, it's never going to happen. I think I have to give up on my dreams, but my car parks itself. So when one door closes, another one opens.

I have carpal tunnel from that. Me too. Yeah. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Cheslin Line. I'm wanting to share. We're doing the fast five stories. You need to know from Monday to Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please don't forget to subscribe me. It's a video of a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere. I'm so embarrassed. You can see the snacks coming out of my purse.

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