Transcript of 4x4xU Furever: Thursday, February 13th, 2025

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy...

What is it? Thursday.

It's Thursday. Jackson and I are doing a super early morning recording. It's giving the hustle never sleeps.

It's giving early bird gets the worm.

We also are doing an audio-only extravaganza today. Apologies to the YouTube Swirlies, but we will be back tomorrow. Today is a travel day for me. Hey, Jacks, how are you doing?

I'm Durn Good early morning, so I'm just getting my bearings. I have to ask myself how I'm doing. I have no idea.

Don't you feel like your voice is different on an early morning podcast?

Yeah, because you're still waking up.

No, but I mean more like, I feel like I'm whispering. Romeo is asleep behind me.

Actually, my house is asleep right now, which is crazy. The one time I have to get up early. Not on a Sunday. Not on a Sunday, we're sleeping in.

Jacks, I think everyone really tuned in today to find out what the hell you did last night. After all the hype of yesterday's episode, where were you?

I just want to tell you guys, my evening was so amazing. So thank you for asking. Because I went to a women's event at a local school. They had asked me to... They were having a guest speaker come. I'll explain who she is in a moment. They asked me to moderate the conversation. That does fall in my wheelhouse of talent, technically, and I am a Jewish woman. You're a speaker. It was an inspired choice. I agree. And I would love to get back to my community and do something like that. Any time I go to an event, especially a religious event, like the manifesting one, I always get so much out of it. So I'm like, why not have a meaningful evening? Why not? Why not? I agreed to do it. The The guest who came, her name is Joyce Azria, might sound familiar because her dad is BCBG Max Azria. She was the creative director of BCBG, and she's also an Orthodox Jewish woman. It was just all about her life and her journey through Judaism. But this woman just had such a great energy and such a great approach to spirituality and being religious.

You would have really loved her, Claude, because she was just talking about her relationship with Hashem. It's not as Bible thumping, as you would think it would be. It's very energetic. It's very alive. We just had a really great conversation. It was a great evening. It really was.

Well, so happy for you expanding your horizon, socially, religiously, spiritually without me. That sounds amazing.

Yeah. I would love to bring some back to. I feel like every time you go to a Torah class, you always come back with- It's like a little nugget. A little nugget. Last night was to be. I don't know if you saw dat moon. Dat Moon. Dat Moon, though.

I did see Dat Moon. To That's like a parji, a Jewish song that we don't... We're always singing our faves. That one gets lost.

Yeah, because it's the Festival of the Trees. It's obviously not one of the huge ones, but it's- It's Giving Arbor Day. It's underrated. The trees deserve love, too.

You know who else deserves love?

Who?

Me.

Why? Because you passed your glucose test?

Well, first of all, I thought I would be waltzing in here being like, Hey, look at me. I either passed or failed. I didn't get the results. I don't know why I thought it was the driver's test where you just find out immediately if you pass or fail.

I would have thought it was a few hours. You don't know right now?

No, I still don't know. You would know if I knew. Okay. I just want to say I've had it up to here.

With?

The social media misinformation when it comes to women's health.

Wow, you're taking on a lot this early morning.

Yes, and I'm just sorry to have pivoted directly out of your party evening into my torturous afternoon, but it needed to be said. I've had enough. Hopefully, I can use some of the lessons that I've learned from my pargy evening to help you through your torture this afternoon. Let's try.

Let's try.

I've had it up to here with specific Specifically, these bitches. Yesterday, I took my glucose test. Let me tell you, it was one of the most horrible- Yesterday. Yesterday, it was one of the most horrible experiences of my life. It was so long, and that juice, while, yes, it tasted actually very good. People were so dramatic about being like, I couldn't get it down. It made me feel sick. Oh, my God, 20 minutes later, I was like,.

Sugar high.

I felt disgusting. I really felt not okay, but whatever. I was sharing the journey on social media and the amount One of the things people were trying to give me anxiety about that aren't real, actually was starting to piss me off. People were like, You'll have to take the test again. If you drink it through a straw, it doesn't work.

Not true.

Jackie, the lady at the lab gave me the straw You know more than her. First of all, how on God's green dilly dally Earth would drinking something through a straw make it different?

I don't know.

They wouldn't. Then immediately, I was like, Oh, shit. Did I do something wrong? Then I'm like, Wait, wait. Logic needs to prevail here. I literally drink it. Who cares if I drink it with my mouth open or my mouth closed? It was making me regret sharing. These bitches were pissing me off.

I do think people- That's the lesson. Start to regret sharing because, yeah, everyone comes in either thinking they're an expert or wanting to be an expert. I want to be like, Hey, well, one time for me. It's not your time.

Then I was sharing like, Oh, my God, not everybody being so dramatic about this juice, when it was actually quite tasty It tasted like a full sugar Sprite. It really was not bad. Then people were being like, Well, you know they say if you would like the taste of the juice, you actually probably do have gestational diabetes. I was like, Bitch, shut up.

Okay, I just want to say- What did it just... Shut up. I saw that one, and it made me chuckle. Okay.

I know, but she was being for real.

I think you heard the laugh.

I thought for a second, I was like, Shit. It does sound... That one sounded... The straw one? Sounded stupid.

The other one has It's like, You love this sugar because you're always eating sugar.

Because you're a big diabetic. I was like- I like that myth.

It can stay.

That myth has merit, but then I did look into it. It's completely fabricated and made up.

Okay, but it can stay still because it's funny. All that to say- It provides value in the humor department.

Yes, all that to say, I still don't know if I passed my glucose test. I had a miserable time doing it both offline and online, and I might stop sharing my journey with these bitches, specifically.

Is there a way for you to share your journey and then tune out these bitches? If you were to share your journey, maybe it's because you're a little too- By the way, we're getting into Jay Shetty territory.

Story right now.

Are we? Oh, my God. Zack was like to me last night. He was like, Do you see that clip of Claudia and Jay Shetty? I'm like, Oh, no, no, no, that's not for me. He was like, What do you mean? I'm like, Well, we're too close. I can't watch. Of course. He was like, What do you mean? He's like, What do you mean you didn't watch a clip?

I was like- He didn't get it?

He didn't get it. I guess it's an odd thing to say at a glance. It's not. We're too close. I can't watch her.

It's literally the least weird thing.

I just want you to know he was very moved by your words.

He only watched a clip, not the whole episode?

Just the clip about that.

You're going to make sure it ends there. It ends with the clip.

I don't even have to make sure he doesn't even listen to The Toast. So true. Unless Cal and Cal heard it was on your episode with Jay Shetty.

By the way, good to know that if we ever runs back to listen to an episode of The Toast, we just have to get Colin Cauhert on The Toast.

That would actually be such a good surprise for something.

Yeah, and we might have a better chance if you didn't literally say the meanest shit about Colin Cauhert yesterday. I think you called him like- I'll rein it in. What'd you call him?

I will rein it in. I will do better. Just for that, if I ever have a surprise.

We have to start kissing cowherd ass.

If I need to get a Colin Cowherd cameo.

Do you think he's on cameo? No, he probably makes a lot of money from ESPN. He doesn't need to do that.

That's never stopped people. It's a certain type of animal on cameo.

It's so true because it's important to remember that Bethany Frankl is or was on cameo while she was a rich woman.

Yeah. It takes all kinds.

It's a different beast over there.

It takes all of us.

We have a great show, actually. Did you watch Summerhouse?

Of course I did. Oh, my gosh.

Summerhouse Premiere.

Summerhouse Premiere. I also watched Watch What Happens Live.

We are so back.

I'm so excited about season. It looks so good. I really enjoyed my time watching it last night after my meaningful evening with Hashem.

Yeah, that's probably what Hashem would have wanted, don't you think?

Yeah. No, but he definitely would have because I was in bed with my warm blanket.

Cozy.

Cozy, feeling fulfilled.

I have a hard time watching Summerhouse, but also recapping it without letting my personal biases get in the way of a good recap because I seriously, I cannot watch that yellow-haired buck on my TV. I hate him so much, 42-year-old in a with a 24-year-old. It actually is hindering me from doing my job, the hate that I have.

But at least for last night's episode, he's not really a part of it. Honestly, I probably wouldn't have mentioned him in my recap, not even as a boycott.

But I'm hyper-focused. Everything he does, I have triggers. My recap would have included a lot of him, even though he contributed zero to the episode.

Got it. That's so funny. I literally forgot about him. I thought you were going to say Carl or Wes.

I hate. Yeah, but I don't know those people. I have a personal beef.

I'll also say just because I forgot about him.

Yeah. If it weren't for my personal beef, he's so forgettable. But seriously, I'll never forget you setting up your DJ equipment. You're 42.

Yeah. Well, I'm really excited to recap that, and I don't want to rush through the rest of the show to do that, but that's what I feel like doing. So down. Because also that's the big thing that happened. It wasn't a crazy news making 24 hours.

Yeah. I hate when it happens.

I hate when that happens. I feel like everyone was just on a spiritual journey. That's how it felt. Or take your glucose test.

Yeah. Well, actually, while you were on your spiritual journey, I was recovering from my glucose test. It took me all day. I wasn't okay.

Yeah, it'll knock your socks off. That just is a little taste of a sugar high. So next time you're consuming loads of sugar, just remember, that's where you're headed.

Okay, RFK. I want to say one about RFK. Okay.

Okay.

You know his whole movement is Make America healthy again. Maheah. Maheah. Okay, thank you. That's what I wanted to say. I haven't seen it. Every time I see it on social media, people referencing it, like positively or negatively, all I can think of is Amanda Bies. Maheah.

I actually have seen someone say like-Oh, good. The hair movement.

I was going to make an Instagram story about it, but it's also a controversial movement, so I got involved. I wasn't in the mood for backlash, but I just wanted to make I'm sure I wasn't the only one who saw it and immediately thought of Amanda Binds.

Rivk. What?

Oh, Rivk. Yes.

Yeah.

It sounded like you were about to tell me something about your religious event last night, a girl named Rivka. That's what I thought you were saying.

No, Rivk-ger.

Rivk-ger, yeah.

Rivk-ger in the Maryam.

Maryam movement. We should rage me people today and make that the title.

Well, actually, if you want to go deep, I wonder if you've seen this in the glucose discourse that the real crunchy ones- Bring their own? They won't drink that drink. Some people skip the test altogether, but some people drink their own sugary concoction because what you drink is literal toxic waste. I mean, and I drink it, too.

I didn't know that that was a thing, but Shannon texted me. She was like, Good luck at your glucose test. She's like, Are you... And Jack's so crunchy that you bring your own juice. I'm like, Wait, I hadn't even heard of it. I'm That's another level of crunchiness that I haven't even heard of. Jackie has never brought that up to me. I did not know that. While I didn't enjoy the test, I'm going to trust the test, and I have no regurts, even though I'm definitely... I feel like I drink toxic waste. That's how heavy and thick it was.

Yeah, it's crazy. It's like, drink this disgusting toxic liquid. Then we'll let you know if something's wrong with you. I'm like, well, there isn't now.

No, and sometimes you could drink it and it's inconclusive. That, to me, would be the worst result if If I have to do the longer test.

Yeah. I wonder what... I've seen what people bring, but it's hard to match the level of craziness that's demanded of the GET.

Yeah. When you make your own, seriously, you make it in the kitchen.

Or you bring a sugary drink. I don't know.

Oh, like a Powerade?

Yeah, but the man here wouldn't drink Powerade.

Of course.

Something else sugary.

Rifkare.

Great.

All right, well, we have a lot to do today. I think we should dive in to...

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Our first story is actually some sad and shocking news. Teddy Mellekamp reveals that doctors have found multiple tumors on her brain that have been growing for at least six months. Teddy Melenkamp posted on her Instagram that for the last several weeks, she'd been dealing with severe and debilitating headaches. Yesterday, the pain was unbearable and required hospitalization. After a CT scan and MRI, doctors found multiple tumors on her brain, which they believe have been growing for the last six months at least. She said, Two of the tumors will be surgically removed today. The remaining smaller tumors will be dealt with via radiation at a later date. I'm blessed to be surrounded by my children, family, friends, doctors, nurses, and surgeons who are doing everything possible to get me back into better health.

I mean, this woman literally can't catch a break. I feel like every time I open my Instagram, she's sharing something new happening in her skin cancer journey. She's always posting these pictures of these crazy scars on her back that she had to have different moles removed. They went under the surface and just found different, I think it's called melanoma. And so I just thought that was her journey. And then to see this on Instagram, I was really shook. Seriously, pray for this woman.

Yeah. Same. I was watching Watch It Happens Live last night, and that's where I actually heard about it because Andy was giving her the muscle of the day. I think she went into surgery last night. I hope today she's recovering. I hope they got what they needed to get and that they're able to attack this. But that is so scary. Of course.

Who gets two different types of cancer? That's seriously so nuts.

Yeah.

I feel like she's also been doing a lot in the last six months because I feel like I've seen her a lot. She's on Skating Confidential. She's always making news, two T's in a pod. It's doing that with tumors? Wow.

Yeah.

I feel like she's also very into health, right?

It's not like someone who's just let it slip by and doesn't pay attention to- She's always doing the most health-wise. Yeah. A healthy person, active. Not that those things... But those should add up to- A healthy life. Yeah.

No, it's really so sad. She was like, such young kids. Seriously, what a crazy fucking story.

Yeah, a crazy story. Just It was really incredibly sad, and we're thinking of her. We'll wait more news.

Correct.

Are you ready for our next story, which is also a bit of crazy news because Naya Rivera's ex, Ryan Dorsey, is speaking out for the first time.

That's such sad stories today.

I know. Just these two, and then we'll move to a better place, but the two big ones.

This story always gives me the biggest pain in my stomach.

Yeah. The actor Ryan Dorsey sat down with People magazine to talk about Naya Haya and his son, almost five years since her death. He's talking about how it's been, how he's working at Warner Brothers and Forest Lawn Cemetery, where she's buried, is on the other side, talking about songs that remind him of her and just raising their son and the trauma that he's been through when at four years old, he was on the boat when his mom drowned. No, it's seriously not. And just doing his best.

Right. And sharing different details from that day. Because even though the whole thing happened very publicly and we were all on the journey as it was actively happening and they were looking for her, we still don't really know 100% what went down on the boat.

Yes, but it's also really hard to know when it was just the two of them and he's so young.

That's the only witness.

Why exactly? What made her drown? Ryan, Dorsey was saying it must have been some freak- Whirlpool. Yeah.

But they say that about that lake in particular. It's known. It's actually not that out of the ordinary, but it happened to have been a really bad day.

Right, but you don't know that for sure because the only person who is there to see it would probably know what a Whirlpool is. He's four years old.

Right. But a detail he did share that I think people hadn't previously known was that there was an attempt to help. I mean, he was four, but I think he threw a rope.

Yeah, or there was a rope on the boat. He didn't throw it. I think he said that there was a spider on it. I It's just something that haunt him. But he was saying the rope probably wouldn't have breached.

Yeah.

It's just really a sad story. Every time it comes up, it's so sad. I can't believe it. She's gone in that way.

In that way. And it was so cryptic when it happened. Because remind me, the boat just turned up with him on it alone, right? Yeah.

Him napping on it. Yeah. Like three hours after they chartered it.

Him napping on it. That's so sad. I'm going to cry. And so the way it all unfolded was just so scary. I can only imagine what trauma that does to a child. I'm sure peace has come back, but it's so sad.

Yeah. Really, really sad.

I feel like the dad and him are super close. I wish them the best. I don't want to think about them. I just want them to go be happy and have an amazing life.

Live in peace. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of money, lots of joy. The boat didn't have an anchor, so it was drifting away when she and her son were swimming.

That's why she had to-Okay, honestly, these details are making me really sad.

No, but and so they sued over that. Got it. I don't know how much money, if they want any money, but that was a part of it as well.

That's even sadder. Oh, my God. They It's lifting away. I can't.

Well, now are you ready for our next story? A little love news. A little love. Our girl, my favorite person, Lanie Wilson, is engaged. What? Yeah. Country star Lanie Wilson reveals her engagement to former NFL player, Duck Hodges, after four years of dating.

So I knew she had a man.

Lanie and Duck.

Yeah. No, I knew she had a man because she was alluding to it for a really long time on social media and never shared who it was. Then a little while ago, she just was like, fuck it. And people found his identity, and she didn't care. Now she shows him on social media and stuff. He's super cute, super country. I mean, his name is Duck. I didn't realize she was engaged. That's so sweet. He's really cute.

He's a former NFL quarterback.

That I didn't know. I thought he was just a guy with a job.

No. That's good. He knows life in the spotlight has worked well under pressure, works well with others. Correct. Team player.

That's really cute. They literally have the biggest farm, and that's all they do. They're real country folk.

Yeah. She posted a picture on a pargy porch saying, 4 by 4 by you forever.

Wait, say it again.

The caption is, For by, for by, you. Forever.

Oh, really cute. Whose house is that? Very stately manor.

I like that. They don't make houses like that anymore. When you call a builder, I don't think they even know how to do this.

What design is that? Is it a Victorian?

Like, brick is a brick house.

Her ring is really pretty. I really like her. I'm so glad you're turning a corner on her, but you just remind me. I saw the two most random fucking celebrities together this morning in a video. Did you see this about Kylie?

No.

So I'll explain the circumstances that brought these two together afterwards. But just now, last night, Kylie was hanging out with Ella Langley.

I love that.

I love it. For those who don't know, it's a real up and coming country artist. Excuse me. The viral TikTok song, that's her big breakout hit.

You look like you love me. They have such matching energy I just want to say. They have such a bunch of auras plus 10,000, right?

So the reason they were together, it makes a little bit more sense. But at first I saw them hug and I was like, Excuse me? Kylie hosted an event for Sprinter, a pop-up where they were just handing out drinks, and there was a stage, and they had Ella Langley perform.

Oh, my God. That's so funny that she's a small business owner and has to work with local town.

Slum it, yeah.

But I love that. I hope that there was enough time for them to strike up a friendship and real recognize real.

Yeah. It's like Ella Langley is Kylie if she grew up in the South.

1,000%.

Yeah, they actually do look alike.

Yeah, and they have just similar swag. Definitely. I could see Kylie, Excuse me.

Do you think Kylie knows that song? When they were just running different people by Kylie, like, Oh, within budget, we could get this person to perform this person. Kylie was like, Oh, yeah, I like that song. Or do you think she has no idea?

She definitely knows the song because she's on the internet.

Yeah. It's crazy to think about.

Yeah, that's really cute.

What was the story?

Lanie Wilson, For by, for by, you, forever.

Do it again.

It's addicting. Do it again. For by, for by, you, forever.

I like the way you say forever like that. I think you need to start saying it like that more, forever.

After today's episode, I don't know if I'll be able to go back to the way I used to.

That works for me. Forever.

So Mazel Tov, Laine.

Mazel Tov, Laine. I'm really happy for her. She's so Like, everything's coming up Laine.

By the way, her name would be Laine Hodges.

Oh, my God. She's related to Orson?

Isn't that the girl from She's All That?

Oh, my God. Wait. Yes. Laine Hodges. But now I can't keep finding her and her man.

Okay, so she's all that. What's that girl's name? Rachael Lee Cook.

Yeah, she's all that. I am. Rachel Lee Cook. Her name is Laney Boggs.

Seanie Fox.

You're close? A hundred %. I immediately went to Orson Hodge. That's going to be her father-in-law.

One thousand %. Thousand %. Very exciting time for the Wilson Hodge family.

Big time. It's going to be a good time for them forever.

It better be forever. At this point, if they don't last, then it wasn't forever.

It was forever.

Are you ready for our next story? I am. Some rock and roll news.

It's still rock and roll to me. Yeah.

The 2025 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees are here.

Yeah, I saw this list. I feel like we talk about it every year, and every year doesn't make sense to me.

I feel like we never talk about it, but I saw it yesterday. I was like, No, I can do without. Today, I was like, I need you. You're in.

You're in. It's giving six men.

It's second string.

Yeah, but I think that we do talk about it every year because when they have the actual induction ceremony, they always have a big performer. That's That's the story. Then we're like, Wait, who got indicted that year? We read the list and we don't know any of the people.

Here are the colonies, which is weird. Not all of them. I didn't realize it was a competition at this stage in the game.

Oh, me neither.

Billy Idle, which feels Like, right?

It's... Wait. Billy Eidol. Oh, okay. I was getting confused. That's not Billy Joel Armstrong. No. It's not Billy Joel.

No. Who is it?

Yeah, I actually think we don't know who this is.

No, I do.

No, I'm telling you, you don't. His photo looks like not even... Oh, Dancing with myself. We know that song.

How does that go?

Dancing with myself.

That's a classic. Oh, he deserves it just for that.

Agreed. But his other top song's Eyes Without a Face, Rebel Yell, I'm not familiar with. I'm sure some of our boomer tosters, which I'm dying to get in with the boomers. I feel like in this day and age, everybody's like, once We're Gen Z or Millennial. And it's like, We're definitely millennial. We're not Gen Z. And I think a lot of people in our position would try to be targeting the next Gen. Gen Z, start talking. I want more boomers. Okay. I'm just putting it out there. When I go to our next set of live shows, I want everybody in the audience to be geriatric. I feel like those are boomers. No, I'm just being dramatic, making a joke about the boomers. They get it.

Okay. I don't know. That's not the way to court them. But okay.

No, but I just feel like the boomers are happy people because they all own homes, and they're at almost the age of retirement. They don't have the problems that all these other chronically online folks have. I just want an audience majorly comprised of boomer, boomer women.

Tell your parents to listen to the toast.

Yeah, and we could start targeting our content to be a little bit, like, skew it a little bit older.

More stories like this of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

To our boomer contingency, which I do feel is growing. I'm telling you, I could feel it. Come get your man. I'm sorry to this man. I have no idea who Billy Eidol is.

Okay, so maybe he won't win. Billboard has his odds as 10 to 1 on getting in.

That doesn't sound good. Those are good odds, right?

Oh, I don't know.

I think they are. It's like 100 to 1.

Next, we have Joy Division/New Order.

My favorite.

Those are four words I've never said. Yeah. Next to each other, aligned. Then there's Bad Company, which, of course, has the classic rock staples feel like making love, can't get enough, shooting star. Frontman is Paul Rogers.

Oh, Paul Rogers.

Their odds are 8 to 1.

I loved Paul Rogers forever.

Their odds are 8 to 1 as our Joy Division New Order's odds.

Okay, cool.

Then Soundgarden, which, of course, Soundgarden has the radio staples, the critical peer respect, the commercial and the relatively enduring importance.

I don't know if I would say they have the relatively enduring importance.

I think they don't have a compelling answer to the question, why now?

Right. That's what it sounds like.

Of course, the band has been dormant since the death of the frontman Chris Cornell.

Oh, by the way, I happen to know who Chris Cornell is. Yes. So let him in.

Od to one. Next. Chubby Checker. No other artist on this ballot has their legacy as tied to one song as Chubby Checker, though.

No other legacy. Let me ask you another question. If you looked on this list, because I'm having fun, I am. Is there anyone whose names you recognize?

Yes. You want me to get to them?

Please just... Yeah.

Cindy Laupper.

Queen, let her in. What are her odds? 10,000 to one. Three to one. You're kidding.

Yeah, so I think we're getting close I'm not sure.

Wait, three to one is bad or good?

Three to one is good, I think. Better than 10 to one. 100%.

Oh, wait.

Okay. I think this is descending or...

Anybody who wrote the song Girls Just Want to Have Fun deserves the world. Actually, the other day, remember when I was telling you how I was listening to a lot of old Miley Cyrus? I forget that most people our age really know all the lyrics to that song because Miley Cyrus has cover of it, which she really put a lot of respect on. It was super well done. We don't talk about that enough. That was really a brilliant move.

No, she was doing covers from a young age. She was always destined for covers.

Backyard, baseball, whatever it was called.

Oh, of course, Backyard Sessions, Jolene. But so much of her career is about covers and new takes on. Now. Yeah. Even though she puts out original music, she does a lot of performances where she's a go-to cover. They should tap her for the Grammys and stuff to do tributes. Tributes also. Because she really becomes the person.

It's giving Kelly Oakey. We need to see Kelly and Miley do a Miley Oakey.

We do. Then next one on the list that you do know Mariah Carey.

See, this is where they lose me. Mariah Carey is a hip hop artist, right? Yeah. This is a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. That's just where I get confused. But let her in.

Yeah. Then Fish. I mean, how are they not in there? Classic.

How are they not there? That's the other thing. I feel like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, they really want to make people deserve it, so much so to the point that they're always dropping the ball.

Yeah. Then Outkast.

Love.

Hey, yeah. Yeah, why not? Sure. Let them in.

Hey, yeah.

The White Stripes.

I'm unfamiliar, but I know the name.

That feels right. The White Stripes.

That's exactly who she'd be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Then Oasis, which Billboard says is the only true to shoe in for this class. That's the best odds, one to two.

To me, just based on how I perceive the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which is definitely incorrectly, the only person on that list who's truly eligible is Cindy Lauber.

I think more. What about Fish? Everybody loves Fish.

I don't know if I would say that they're rock and roll. I feel like it's more like, vibes.

Yeah, it is vibes. But well, Here's Wonderwall.

Anyway, here's Wonderwall, forever.

And after all, you're my wonder By the way, now that you're recovered from your flu, you have to make your-I know. I was thinking that. I'm like, yeah.

Appointment in the studio to lay down tracks for Toast theme song because my version is ready to go.

Yeah, I know. I was thinking that when I woke up this morning, woke me up.

Yeah. It's a little stressful. It shook you out of a dreamless sleep.

It was a little stressful.

You have to do it.

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Our fifth and final story, which is going to lead into a summer house recap, and not to start at the end, but in the trailer before the rest of the season, Katmer is picked up on Paige when she and Craig broke up. So Paige just swore about claims- By the way, you were the one who told me, right, that Southern Charm, we see that Craig...

So it's fair that they're both doing it.

A hundred %. I'm glad that she did it because otherwise, I could see her being mad at Craig for putting it on camera. Now it will be totally balanced. It'll have the same runway to share what happened.

The big bomb that he dropped on his trailer for Is that, page asked me to get a ring.

And he got a ring.

He got a ring. Her big bombshell that we saw in the last... Thank God, I usually turn off the previews, whatever I'll see next week. The last three seconds of the preview, she's talking about how she's upset, which we've been talking about all week, that he's not defending her publicly amidst these cheating rumors, when at the end of the day, she never cheated. He was the one who got caught texting two bitches twice during their relationship. Excuse me?

She said she caught Craig texting two bitches over the course of their relationship. She said some snippets included Craig Are you talking about? I feel like you're so betraying me right now. She also said, You are dead to me.

I feel sick. I feel really sick.

Yeah. Then also on Watch What Happens Live last night, like Cierra and Lindsay were talking about it. Andy asked them, How surprised were you that Paige and Craig broke up? 1-10, 10 being most surprising. Sarah was like, One.

Wow.

Yeah, but she was like, That's my best friend. You know what's going on. You know when someone's close to a breakup, but it sounds like she knew more than maybe Craig.

I saw clips of Cierra I unwatched She Happens Live, and then I also watched her in the premiere, and it's like, actually, she's so striking. I don't know of a person I've watched on reality TV who's maybe as beautiful as she is. It's actually upsetting.

Yeah, she's so beautiful. This new girl is so beautiful.

Oh, yeah.

Lexie. Lexie. It's so crazy to see someone come off of Instagram. I've seen her Instagram because I knew she was joining the cast on Instagram. She seriously looks like a perfect individual. Then to see her in 3D on a show She's just so adorable and perfect-looking. It's really a pleasure. It was such a fun episode with her.

I remember hearing that she was going to be joining the cast, and I remember hearing something about her. Was she like a neppo baby? What was it?

She dated someone famous. Brooklyn Beckham. Yeah.

In 2018. Damn that's crazy.

But she has a very different personality than what I would have expected. I would have expected her to be a little more aloof, cool girl. Too cool. But she's very bubbly, very outgoing, very fun.

She's perfect for the show. However, I feel like with the intro of her and her friend Bayly, who I feel like is an undiscovered talent, I think she's just taking a little bit more time to come to the surface.

Of course, it's always that way.

I do feel like we're really starting to see the two different shows. Because actually last year, we've been complaining for the last few years that there's no good single young guys, and they got West and Jessie, and they're both good, and there's a new guy coming. I feel like this younger single group is starting to carve out a place for themselves, and they leave, and the other half of the group stays home, which is fine, but it doesn't feel like this unit.

Yeah, it doesn't bother me yet. Maybe that will become very clear over the season. But what I thought was so great, it's like this is what shows used to be where it was a couple of singles and a couple of guys and girls and people would immediately click. It's given not in a bad way. Ron and Sam, where you just see someone in your house, you're like, That's my person. I like how you look. I like how you talk. Watching her and Jessie immediately hit it off. I had a smile on my face the entire time. We I haven't seen that on TV in a very long time. I guess also West and Sierra had that, and that was just- Also Sam and Cory.

Remember them?

I loved Sam and Cory.

I know they broke up, so whatever, but they should have come back.

No, that was always the weirdest thing that they weren't on the next season.

Because she was great, by the way. He was super cute, what's not to like, frat boy energy, perfect for that show.

No, it's really always so fun to watch. It's like what the All the good shows started out like. To have a little bit of that last night. Jesse Solomon seems like such a great guy, a great catch. Everyone wants love for him.

I'm sorry, he's so funny, too, being like, I love her.

No, he's so funny and he's serious. I mean, we'll see. It looks like the rest of the season. I do feel like his fatal flaw is that he's a really big flirt and doesn't take things seriously, but that he's 10 toes deep for this girl. It's really sweet. It's young love, and he deserves it.

It also seems a little bit like there's going to be beef between Lexie and Cierra because I think that Lexie is coming and filling a role that Cierra filled when she first got there. The eligible single girl in the house that all the other single guys are into.

Yeah, no, but I also could see even last night, Jessie flirts with Cierra a lot. He's very touchy with her.

He flirts with Paige a lot, too.

Yeah, he flirts. He's a flirt, but I noticed it the most with Cierra. I think if she and Jessie start hooking up, and it's like, We're not hooking with other people. We'll just focus on this right now. But he still feels like it's okay to flirt with Sierra, that would bother a girl.

I agree because there's being personable and the funny, jolly guy, and then there's just inappropriate.

No, and then there's just when you are taking steps forward in a relationship, you change the way you behave to the rest of the world. And if you're not ready to do that, you're not mature.

You know what? I always think when I watch the first episode of Summer House is how impressive it really is the way they're able to divvy up the rooms. Now, I guess because they're only staying two nights at a time, and then they all go back to their apartment, it's not It's the biggest deal. But when you think about rooms on Bravo shows, it's historically been this crazy saga. They're all extremely mature about it. Except in the beginning, I remember, it was every season, Amanda and Kyle got the master, and it's like, Well, why?

Yeah, especially when two people are also willing to share.

Crm page.

Yeah. But I also feel like the house is growing. There's always more rooms. There's always more people.

They keep putting walls up and just making rooms and throwing beds in rooms.

Yeah. So there really doesn't seem like a really bad room. And when there are bad rooms, you just give them to the boys.

There aren't bad rooms. There are just rooms without bathrooms of their own. Right. Those, I think, are considered the bad rooms.

And those should go to the boys. The girls need ensuite.

Now, let me tell you how much I love Lindsay Hubbard. It's actually crazy. She's so interesting to me. But that also adds another layer. It's really crazy that she's in a house with a 24-year-old. Do you know what I mean? She's birthing new life. Kyle's 42. So many of her friends, Paige is in a committed three-year relationship. And then these 24-year-olds out till 3: 00 in the morning. Sometimes I feel like it'll feel like we're watching two different shows, which not necessarily is a bad thing.

Yeah. No, but we will get into an inflection point. I don't feel like I'm there yet. It's probably where we're headed, though, where you do have to shake up the cast a little bit. Van der Pum rules, Junior and Senior, where do we go from here?

Yeah, but the one thing this has on Van der Pum rules is that Van der Pum rules never got a group of young people. We were even remotely interested. Every person they cast, flop after flop after flop. Meanwhile, between Jessie, West, I would consider Sierra like a bridge. It's like a Sheena. Well, yeah.

Cierra was saying how much she happens to have. She's only two years older than Lexie and one year older than Bayly. She's 28, Lexi's 26 and Bayly is 27. I guess she's just so mature. She was like, Yeah, but I feel so much older. She just doesn't have that- She could play on both cast.

She really Good.

Yeah.

This is also our first episode, She's Without Danielle, which was nice.

I didn't really notice.

Yeah. Okay. Lindsay showing up, I'm sorry. I love her so much, her speech. I know they were trying to make it seem long-winded. They do that editing thing where they just blend the words. But I followed exactly what she was saying. Because I knew where it was going, it made total sense. She was like, 8 years ago this, seven years ago this, six years ago, and this year, I'm pregnant. I actually thought it was really nice, and I loved it, and I loved how happy everyone was for it. But the whole room being like, I knew it. That is such an annoying thing to say.

Yeah, especially because there were a lot of rumors. Even you had said to me on this show, I think I've heard a rumor Lindsay's pregnant. I was like, Oh, well, I hope that's true. Obviously, Obviously, if we heard that, then her cast needs to heard that. It's like, just shut up, okay? Let the woman have a moment.

No, I shouldn't have said that either, by the way. That was wrong of me.

No, in that moment, I needed to hear it because I was worried about her. Oh, and this idea, I just need to say this idea that Lindsay has moved on too quickly from Kyle. Anyone who is even remotely floating from Carl. Kyle? Oh, just get ready for that. From Carl. Some people are floating that idea like, Well, she's pregnant four and a half months. Kyle was saying that.

So they dated for one month.

The day that Carl broke up with Lindsay, I wouldn't care if she got together with the next person the next day. He is in the past. When you're a woman of a certain age and you want to have children, there is no time to waste. There's no grace period of, We need to get over it. We need closure. I need to heal. I need to be by myself. No, I need to find my future now, and day one starts now. Anyone who remotely goes with that, I don't know if that will become a storyline or it's just people being shady. It's really ridiculous and just goes to show an immature because there is no time to waste around here. Lindsay did not waste time, and Carl wasted her time, so now we got to get time back.

No, and it was pissing me off hearing people say that, but I thought it was just my blind loyalty to Lindsay, but you're 100% right. It's disrespectful.

Yeah. No. However she wants to get over Carl, do it in the next... She's got to keep moving forward. There's no time to waste and mope and find yourself and eat, pray love.

Like Carl's doing. I need to say I absolutely love that she told the group without Carl, ran upstairs, did her sponsored post, told the world, Carl found out with the world, and then had to waltz into the house the next day. It was such a slay of a timeline. I loved it so much. Him coming in. I'm sorry, I I understand this man. Him coming in and walking out of the house, like needing to talk to producers, doing therapy talk. I just don't know how to be in a situation like this, like that.

No, and the producer's like, That's really normal, man.

Lead with your heart, bro. Seriously, grow up.

We're listening to get produced.

We broke up with this woman now almost a year ago. Exactly.

It's embarrassing.

Honestly, this is going to be a crazy thing to say, and I'm just going to say it. You know what? I'm actually not.

Sorry. Continue. Well, What I was going to say is he started to be like, I can't believe she's moved on. I'm still processing. That's a luxury that you have being a man.

To be honest, you are still processing a relationship you ended almost a full year later. That's weird.

No, it's just like, nobody feels bad for you, bro. If you do feel bad for him, you've gotten got. We don't care how much time you want to... The two of you are on completely different journeys now. Apples and oranges. I don't care what she's doing versus what you're doing or what you're doing versus what she's doing. Just because she's moved on and you didn't doesn't make you, Oh, it's so sad, Carl. Didn't have a kiss yet. No.

His confessionals where he's just being a therapist, it's genuinely insufferable.

Yeah.

I loved how How she laid the whole timeline out. That was true queen-like behavior. When she showed everyone her belly and she was wearing the tightest jeans of all time and she had marks on her stomach from the jeans, I wanted to rip those jeans off of her. What are you doing?

Why couldn't she wear leggings and then be like, Boom. I guess she really didn't want people. I think she wanted to get them surprised as much as she could. She was drinking fake alcohol because everyone knew. But then West sees her drinking and it's like, Oh, never mind. Never mind.

I saw something so funny today about Gabby. They were like, I love Gabby. She gives executive assistant energy, true professional. I'm looking forward. It was a tweet. I'm looking forward to seeing her shine outside of being Lindsay's executive assistant, but she is thriving in this role.

Yeah, I completely agree. I love Gabby.

She's a really good friend.

Yeah, she really is. I do look forward to seeing her shine, but she's been wonderful in this role.

I do believe he'll bounce back. He'll be completely fine, but this is the first time he's really seeing everyone since the reunion. It's hard not to remember him as that who's there on the couch at the reunion, not like the cool guy he once was. I'm just having a hard time shaking that image.

Yeah, Weenie West watch parties.

Weanie West, exactly. He does just carry this. We have a chip on our shoulder. He is a weanie.

Yeah. No, it's a very much of a weenie energy. What can you do?

It's just good to see the gang back together. It's nice to have a new show to add to the rotation. We'll be adding it to our Thursday recap. The scheduling for the next couple of weeks goes as such. Mondays, general catch-up. Tuesday, Deer Toaster. Wednesday, Beverly Hills. Thursday, Summerhouse. Friday, Weanie and Weanie. We are so exact. And? Excuse me. And Southern Charm. Of course, how could I forget Southern Charm? We just have a really busy couple of weeks. Tomorrow's episode, Jackie and I are both recording in Miami. We went to a fancy studio. Honestly, if the episode ends up getting published, I'll be shocked. Just like, new studios are so scary.

Why were you so legit?

No, new studios are so scary.

No, but they have their act together. You just go in, they hit record.

We're just going to be like Joe Rogan.

We're just talent. Should we get our hair and makeup done?

Literally.

We're just walking in like, Hey, how you all doing?

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