Transcript of Social Causes, Ibuprofen & Shawty: Monday, February 24th, 2025

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to The Toast. And happy Monday. That has really giving Monday energy because we're separated. Families have been torn apart.

We haven't been in this set up since almost two weeks because we were in Miami, Tric, and we did a remote the day before. So we are back with our frames. Nature is healing.

Yes. The wind's coating is coating.

How's being home?

I really miss you. I really miss our Pargy studio. I miss being near the beach, but it's been so nice to be in my own bed. I can't lie. You could take me to the most magical of places, a free trip where I have a butler. It could be the best trip in the world, but that trip doesn't have my bed. And at some point, I'm going to want to go home. Yeah.

How was the hotel bed? Sometimes hotel beds are the best bed you've ever been in, but a lot of times, it's scratchy.

Well, when your needs are as specific as a pregnant woman, it's hard to just flop around in another person's bed. Do you know what I mean? You have your things. At home, I have a lot of different necessities Necessities, especially on the night stand, on the actual bed. It's an orchestra.

Okay, so now you have your necessities.

But in an attempt to feel a little bit more... Their necessities. In an attempt to feel a little bit closer to you, I've decided to do something a little dramatic.

Okay. Wow.

Now, if you're watching on YouTube, you'll see I put on my three blind, my sunglasses. Now, I want to say something. I'm going to take them off. I'm going to take them off. But I am actually going to, and maybe I'll buy another pair because I love these sunglasses, but I am going to leave them here in the studio on the table next to my microphone. Because while we had so much fun, and of course, you can't wear these sunglasses forever. It's not feasible. I do feel like these sunglasses gave me a sense of bravery I haven't had in a really long time. Just speaking my truth and saying things that I might not normally say, like Bonnie Blue is a whore. And I feel like it was due to the shield these gave me, blocking out the haters. So if there's ever a time I need to say something a little brave, I can put on these glasses and find the courage.

Oh, I love that. Like your Invisibility Cloak.

Exactly. So I'm not going to wear them the entire time, but I'm just letting you know. First of all, everybody wants to know where they're from. They're Orium Collective. We I don't support influencer-founded brands here, and toaster-founded brands. I'm going to leave them here. And also my face is getting a little big for them. They're my sunglasses I wear when I'm skinny, so that'll be in a few months time. So I don't really need these right now. I can leave them in the studio.

Okay, good. Because I was going to say, I do need to be able to see as much of your face as possible since our presences and our auras are not physically together. So I was going to be on the side. I know. And I wasn't- The side I decided never wanted to I'm not going to be wearing them full-time.

And also people don't realize the challenges that come with wearing sunglasses indoors for 75 minutes. It gives you a migraine, especially when you're wearing a slickback bun and headphones. It's just a lot of pressure on your temples. So I did what I had to do to feel- Your body is a temple. To feel my best. Now that, obviously, the scars from my facelift have healed, I can remove the sunglasses and not feel shame.

Great. I'm so happy for you and your sunglasses and the bravery It's a brave new world.

We're obviously different because you don't need a pair of sunglasses to say brave things, but I do. There are two different types of swirleys in this world. It's true.

It's like a blanky.

Correct.

Some people need their Blanky.

Now, we have a big show today because it's Monday, which means just verbal diarrhea. Lots to talk about.

Yes, a lot to catch up on since we haven't been together in three days.

But also yesterday was White Lotus, episode 2, which we both watched. And I'm I'm fully caught up on Love Is Blind. I don't know where you're at, but I'm loving spoiling it for you, so you're just going to have to deal with it.

You're fine to spoil it for me. I tried my best to watch stuff, and I got- That's so hard to get through. I maybe cumulatively got through another whole episode, but it just takes forever The episodes are so long, and I had the busiest weekend, so all my spare time that I could devote to it, I did. But then last night, I had to watch White Lotus, and then that was that on that for me. So I probably made very little headway, but I just know I spent all my time watching it. I just didn't have a lot of time.

So White Lotus's Blind recap will be at the end of today's show. So if you're looking for a full... I'm fully caught up on Love Is Blind, and I'm going to do my best to stay on top of it. But I hear you. It is so fucking dreadful.

I watched so much Claudia, and I watched nothing.

And five minutes went by. Yeah, it's thick, it's dense. It's dreadful. I'm enjoying it, but it's dreadful.

And I'm only watching things that you've already told me about, so I'm so behind.

Well, Jackie, just wait, because now TikTok has entered the chat. There's a TikTok that goes viral in real-time about one of the cast mates, and they talk about it.

Wait, I'm obsessed. I'll get there. So it's a good season? Do you take back what you said?

No, it's not a good season. And this is what it really boils down to. This isn't spoiling anything. At the end of the day- But you're allowed to spoil. No, I'm saying... But I'll save all the spoilers. So it'll be in the timestamp. So I'm not spoiling anything right now. But at the end of the day, this season, they can do what they want. They can try as they may. But it is inherently bad because this is an extremely uncool, uninteresting group of people. And that's really like, you can only do so much with editing or whatever, with just a group of really, really regular people. There's nothing... Honestly, Joey is a character. He's special. I've never met anyone like him. Other than that, they're all... It's like, put them in a lineup. They look alike, they act alike. They're just very regular.

Yeah.

And there's only so far we can go.

Okay. Well, we will We kept that at the end of the show. Not right now.

Yes. No, not right now.

We would never do that right now.

I wanted to talk about something I actually meant to get your opinion on because I, of course, remember you talking about this when you were at my stage of life and I wasn't listening. But my lease is up.

On your car?

Yeah, in two, three months.

Oh, my God. You need a Jerry.

I fear I must- Do you have a Jerry? No. I fear I must transition to somewhat of a mom car.

Your car is not a mom car.

My car is an SUV, which makes me think it's a mom car. I like to think I'm the type of mom who's going to drive a Range Rover, but let's be real. I need a mom car.

Yeah. Also, the car's too high up. Especially if you have a Duna, oh, my gosh, you would have to be Tyson Fury to pick that thing up.

It was the perfect car for this very cool phase of my life. But I'm becoming different. Now, I'm struggling because this is a car, obviously, I'm going to transport my family, and it has to be safe, it has to be efficient. But I'm still me. I'm still going to pull up to the club in this car. So I can't go full mom car, and I'm looking for suggestions.

So people love the Volvo. That was what I almost got before I was- You know what? I was thinking Volvo, too. Before I was put on to Tesla, I was probably going to get the Volvo mom car.

And you're saying it like vulva?

What is it?

But it's V-O. So, Volvo. Volvo.

You're saying, Volvo. But you know the car mom is a toaster, and she will be- Yeah, I got to watch some of her videos. She could be your Jerry. No, she'll hear this, and she gave me a really long long review.

The car mom is this influencer who does really in-depth reviews of every different car for different moms. Here's helpful things that will... But she doesn't cover... I need also the cool factor. I'm still made.

She reviews the cyber truck and evaluates it from a mom's perspective. She will give you whatever car you want. I'm trying to think. I guess the coolest mom cars are the Escalade.

I was thinking, I also saw a while ago, Rach Parcell talking about her mom car.

The Lincoln Navi. Navigator.

Yeah, it was this brand new Lincoln Navigator. It looked like a limo. It was so sick on the inside, and that stuck with me, too. But are Lincoln safe? I don't know.

Yeah, you'll have to look into that. But also an Escalade is a bit much for one child.

Yeah, but it's also me and Ben, and me, Ben, and child while we're technically- And Ben's golf clubs. By the way, yeah. That's four human beings, and we really take up a space of six. You're right. Maybe an escalade is exactly what What happens if, God willing, we have a second child? We wouldn't fit in the escalade. What about...

And then parking. That's going to be a bitch to park.

In New York City, the bigger your car, it can double your parking costs per month. It's a lot of things to consider.

Then some people would do a Porsche Cayenne.

Okay, so I would love to be a Porsche Cayenne mother. I can't lie. It's just a little expensive.

I'm so mean. How much is it? Dollars and cents? What do you think it is a month? I don't know. It's a Porsche. I know, but I feel like the Porsche Cayenne, it looks like a BMW X5 or whatever. It's like, that's just how bad you want to be driving a Porsche. It looks like all the other mom cars. You just couldn't conceive. I need.

If I were to just throw caution to the wind and get a car that's not a mom car, but it's just a big-ass car, I would get that Hummer.

The electric one?

Electric or not electric. I don't care about the environment.

But do they make a... I I don't know if they make non-electric Hummer these days.

Yeah, because the OG Hummer was such a gas guzzler. They were forced out of the market. Yeah.

So that's- Or what about a Yukon?

I think there's a lot of good options out there. The GMC? I'm closing this chapter of my life, me and my sexy cool Range Rover sport. Yeah.

Bon voyage, Range Rover. It's been fun. That car is so hard to get into.

It is so tall. Yeah, it's really high up. Yeah, especially for girls like Oh, my gosh.

When we did a Moukbong, and I was literally nine months pregnant trying to get it. I'm glad that you're actually getting rid of the car ASAP because you're not going to be able to get in it for much longer.

It's so true. Then also my seat is even higher because I have my coxedinia pillow on it.

Of course.

Of course. There's just been a myriad of challenges, and I'm looking forward to this next chapter.

I'm looking forward to that, too, for you. And it's also very exciting.

You have a really good mom car, like Zack's car.

Oh, my gosh. I don't like Zack's car. You don't like it? No. Everybody knows that.

When you guys told me you were getting the Kia Tilly ride, I'm like, eeu. Let me tell you, nobody drives that car more than me. I think it's the most amazing car. I think it is the most amazing car. On the inside, you would never know it's a Kia. It looks like Uber X. Not X, excuse me, Uber black. It's so gorgeous. It drives so amazing. But you got to be driving a Kia.

Yeah.

That's something I personally... That's a boundary I can never cross. I know.

You're very much like a car snob.

I'm really shallow when It comes... And me, have you ever met Ben?

You guys are such car snobs, which is so funny because I'm not a car snob. And I'm not saying I'm not snobby about other stuff. I'm just like, weirdly not a car snob. Yeah, I would say you're snobby about other stuff. And now that I drive a Tesla, I feel like I'm not even in the conversation. I don't even know where Tesla ranks. It's just on another planet.

It's true. You're not a part of the OG convo with all the different dealerships.

But I do think I once saw a list of cars, I don't know, luxury cars, whatever. I do think Tesla falls under luxury.

I would say yes.

Yeah. No, I don't.

I'm snobby and I want something fabulous. Sorry. I do. I'm a fabulous person.

Ben is more car snobby than you. I forgot about that. Oh my God. You should hear how... I could never recommend.

No, When Ben heard you guys were getting a Kia, he wasn't okay.

Let me tell you. Well, the Kia's time is almost up.

I will be devastated. Can I tell you? Because I remember when you did this whole car mom conversation, which one should I get? You and Zack were really all the options, the best one was a Kia Telly, right? I was floored. I'm like, You guys, you're too cool for a Kia. I was wrong. I was wrong. It's fabulous.

When we got the Kia, I didn't even have my license yet. I really let Zack take the reins on the decision making and that he didn't... The Telluride had been having a moment in that moment when we were looking for a car, and he got totally swept up in the car at the moment. Now he would admit that he got a three-year lease, we can't get rid of this thing. He would admit that it wasn't everything that was promised to him. So we're really looking forward to moving on. But what's so funny is now that I have my license, and now that I drive a lot, when I drive with Zack now, now I notice. I used to think he was the best driver in the world.

She's a little critical.

But now I'm noticing stuff. He's on the fence about using his turn signals. I'm like, You've got a signal for everything, my friend.

So I agree. I'm with you because I'm a seasoned driver, and I don't I give up on signaling. Even the smallest thing, lane changing. And signaling has definitely become optional in certain parts of the country. It's so crazy to me. I will never be one of those drivers.

I noticed all the stuff. He's also always so late to get into the right lane for the correct lane for his turn.

Well, that's you being new driver neurotic.

No, we were literally at the light in the right lane, but we were going left, and he's literally driving perpendicular to get into his lane.

I'm like, What are you doing? Yeah, I know. It's easy to become It's critical.

Yeah. I'm sure he rues the day. I used to not notice.

That's a project I'm taking on.

Very exciting. I should be getting my new car soon, which is exciting for me. Also, we had one of those weekends where we lived out of my car. We were just out all day, like diaper changes in the trunk, change of clothes everywhere. It was literally our mobile home.

Nomadic.

I'm getting another Model Y. I love it. Highly recommend, but I won't even go there with you. I'm sure in a For the next few years, you'll be like, I'm thinking about a Tesla.

The thing is, I'm sure it's a great car. The charging, it's not for me, but mostly it's not for Ben. And Ben's the one in charge of keeping our car guzzling gas or having battery Sorry. And a couple of times, we rented electric cars, we used your Tesla.

He hates it. Yeah. Well, you have to have a charger wherever you live.

I've never gone to a- And Ben does a lot of long-distance drives. He's driving to Massachusetts tomorrow.

It's not for us. It's not for that.

Yeah, sorry. Okay.

Well, keep us posted.

Should we dive in? We do have a lot, even though- It feels short. No, and it feels like... It doesn't feel right. Transitioning to talking about something that's not us is not something I'm dying to do.

The stories are meh. I'm not itching. It just doesn't feel right. I feel like we talked about one thing, and that was cars. That's not enough for a pre-Fastive bander. I also know there are people out there who only listen to this show for the pre-Fast-Five I'm like, I'm not going to like the answers. That would mean they were leaving us. It's too soon.

All right, I'll share a story. I didn't even tell you this. If you watched my Instagram story without sound, which I'm sure you did because you never listen to my stories of sound, you missed this.

Because you don't have captions on your stories. No, I don't. They are not accessible stories.

I am able to I'm ableist. I am ableist. Because honestly, when I do that caption thing on Instagram, I talk so fast, and I don't use English words like, Parchy, that I have to edit it so much. Don't edit it.

It becomes another job. Don't even edit it. Just give us the captions. We can decipher Parchy. Okay.

So I had a a busy day yesterday. Ben, in the middle of February, thought it would be good to golf, and I allowed it. I've become very strict about when Ben can leave the house, but I figured if I gave this one, I would get some leeway to say no. I hadn't said yes in a while. So I had to busy myself. I got a manicure. I went to the kosher grocer, and I ended up walking. Yeah, that's right, 10 blocks. And that's not something I've done. Half a mile. I'm walking... I know. And I didn't have my headphones or anything, so I'm just enjoying the Parchiness of the city. And I do what normal people do. I'm eavesdropping. There's three girls behind me. They're so swirly. They're just like, girls. They're wearing hocas, leggings, big socks. I knew they listened to The Toast. And I'm walking in front of them, and I'm listening to their conversation. They're gossiping about a wedding. And then they're like, By the way, I did not like the toast. And I was like, what the fuck? They don't know I'm right in front of them. And the other girl goes, no, I agree.

It was really burnt. And I was like, Oh.

Oh, I thought you meant the toast at the roommate at the wedding.

Oh, I thought she meant the podcast.

Well, first, of course. But then I'm like, wait, no, they're talking about a wedding. There was a toast.

She didn't like it. No, it wasn't back to back. So she was talking about a wedding. They were talking about a bunch of things. And then it was silenced. Was it a Milwaukee wedding? She was like, I didn't like the toast. Maybe they were coming from a meal or something. And the other girl was like, Yeah, I was really burnt. At first, my heart stopped. I'm like, Oh, my God, am I about to notice people talking shit about me in real life? It's really crazy. Because sometimes you hear things that are not meant for your ears.

Yeah.

I'm like, Oh, my God, what are they going to say? That chubby one is so annoying. I didn't know what they were going to say. I actually wanted to cross- I wanted to cross the street. And then I realized they probably don't listen to the podcast, and not everything is about me. And the word toast does exist in other universes besides my own.

So They were just complaining about burnt toast?

Yeah, I think they just came from brunch. It was like a Sunday at one. So maybe they were like, recapping the meal.

But they still like this show, hopefully.

Well, I don't even know if they listen to it, and I looked so ugly.

But not to make everything about us.

Well, it's hard not to when things like that happen.

Okay.

And something I've noticed is I definitely have given up a little bit on my forward-facing looks when it comes to just random things. I don't have so much energy these days, so I'll get dressed for the toast, and that's pretty much it. If me and Ben go out to lunch, I can't.

Got to let the skin breathe. A hundred %.

It's the biggest organ.

Me, when I leave my house, I'm like, Shit, you got to let the skin breathe. Breathe.

Wow, Trini, you look terrible. I'm letting my skin breathe. Skin's breathing. And the last couple of times I've run into tosters, they're like, Oh, my God, I didn't even recognize you. I recognized Ben. And they meant it very harmlessly. They're like, Oh, my God. I saw BSC, and I knew it was you guys. I'm What not to say? Oh, so you're a fucking bitch.

What not to say?

Oh, so you're a fucking bitch.

Yeah, what not to say?

And a couple of girls said it, and I was like, Wait, do I look different? Yes, I do. I'm not trying. And my hair isn't done. I'm really phoning it in unless I'm on camera these days. I used to have so much fun. Let's go to lunch and blow out my hair. No, I didn't recognize you. I saw BSC. Rude. Bsc. So done with him.

Yeah, no, I had a Saturday like that. Yucky. Well, my skin was breathing, and that was good. Okay. Not only was my skin breathing, my hair was- I didn't even tell you, I went out Saturday night. Do you know that?

You went out?

You didn't even post anything. I know because I didn't have my files in order, but I might post it.

Saturday night, and we in the spot. Where'd you go?

Don't believe me. Just watch. I went to a charity event. My friend Erica invited me.

Okay, that's not like going out. I thought you went to a club.

Oh my gosh. Or a bar. No, I went to an event. I was out there. Did you have a cocktail? No. You didn't go out. Because I was driving us home. I said, Zack, you could drink. I'll drive.

Oh, okay.

And I'll use my signals.

Did Zack get wasted?

I'll use my signals.

Did Zack get wasted?

No, he didn't. He actually wound up driving us home.

Oh, that's really funny. Maybe twice in my lifetime have I seen your husband truly wasted. Maybe three times, actually. One time was your wedding where he got up and rapped. Amazing. One other time was at Stage Coach where he took a lobster roll to the And the other time was somebody's birthday party, early on when we all met. It's only been three times, and it was so much fun all three times.

Yeah, it is fun.

I would love to see that again.

Maybe one day.

Let's Roofie Zack.

We're in the same boat now of- You and Zack? Yeah. We got shit to do.

I know. Up early with the kids, who needs that?

Can't be doing that. So anyways, that's why I went free of fauch on Saturday because I know I was getting ready Saturday night because I went out.

Yeah. So the next time, you're feeling ugly, not only can you say you're letting your skin breathe, you're also repairing the heat damage to your hair. Right. I have a hair mask in. It's somebody's business.

No, it's really not. So now without further ado, I guess.

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What can I say?

Our first story, some legal news. Oh, Diddy's lawyer has quit his defense team. He said, Under no circumstances can I continue.

And that's never a good sign, but it's also really not a good sign when that lawyer once represented Osama bin Laden.

Yeah.

So one of- And That's not a euphemism. I'm sorry. He represented the late great Osama.

And from what I understand, lawyers don't really turn down high-profile cases like this. Like, win or lose, it's how you play the game.

No, and of course, ethically, it's like a dilemma, but a job is a job. That's a thing lawyers just have made peace with.

Yeah, but I think that's also part of being a lawyer. I don't know what oath they take, but it's like, even if you're guilty as sin, I will defend you. I won't tell your secrets.

Well, think about everyone who's ever been on trial.

Yeah.

No, but also- That's also the crazy thing. I was watching this documentary- You get attorney-client privilege.

So the attorney could even know if you did it, and they still have to defend you like you didn't.

I was just watching this documentary, and I didn't finish it because it wasn't very good. But it was about how in the '70s, this guy was living in Cleveland. He worked at a factory or whatever. Turns out he was this enormous Nazi. And when they brought... What were those trials called in Israel? The Nuremberg trials?

The Nuremberg trials, yes.

So a lot of people don't know this, but many years after the war, when Israel became the Jewish homeland and they created their own government and stuff, they hosted the Nuremberg trials because there were all these low-key Nazis who, after the war, went on to live lives and have jobs without going to jail for killing. So they would like... Very famous ones, Adolf Eichmann, right? He did a Nuremberg trial. He had to sit in a glass box because somebody was totally going to shoot him. So this guy living in Cleveland was this huge famous this Nazi. They end up figuring it out. He gets extradited to Israel. And the crazy thing about that is even those Nazis had lawyers. That was the point of the story. Excuse me, I got a little off track. To bring it back to Diddy, they could get lawyers, and you can't. I'm suspicious. No.

So it's not like something that the lawyer is ever going to shy away from a case just because you're guilty as sin.

And the more high profile it is, even if it's so guilty- That makes your career Yeah, those are the types of cases where careers are made.

Yeah. Anthony Riecke did not provide a reason for his request in which he wrote, Under no circumstances can I continue to effectively serve as counsel for Sean Holmes, according to an affidavit obtained by people. A judge will need to grant Riecke's motion before he is officially removed from the case. Holmes would still have five other attorneys defending him in his federal sex trafficking case, including lead counsel, Mark Agniffilio. It's not his lead counsel, but one of six.

Now, I feel like we all jumped the gun when we heard this. It's like, Oh, my God, he knows all the terrible things, and he doesn't want to be a part of it anymore. Whereas it's probably something a little bit more administrative than that. A lot of times, a lawyer will have to recuse themselves because of a conflict of interest with another client. I don't know. I feel like it's more something like that than a big scandal. Yeah.

As we said, even Nazis got lawyers. I don't think it's someone who saw too much. Or even, I think people are now starting to feel like Diddy couldn't possibly in this. I think a lot of stuff is going to come out.

Yeah, but he still would have to pay his lawyers, even if he...

Yeah, I don't think that stops you. Again, it's one of six. So I agree with you that it's probably something more inside baseball.

Or maybe this man attended a party or something.

Maybe.

And they just realized, maybe he's innocent, but one time he went to a party, and it turned out to be a ditty party with a client.

Or maybe he just found God and was like, I don't want to... But I'm sure there are godly lawyers who defend the guilt. For Sure.

Well, I think a really godly person would say, even the guiltiest of criminals deserve a defense.

A fair trial, innocent until proven guilty, they might say.

Yeah, this isn't giving godliness. No, no, no. I think that, honestly, if I had to guess, it's just something a little... What's the word I'm looking for? Not administration. A clerical?

Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

There's a lot of drama around who can represent who.

You can't have any- Maybe he's beefing with one of the five. Think about that. Maybe one of the five- Perhaps there's an internal conflict. So his lady.

Perhaps it could be a classic case of an intercommunication issue. Yeah.

Beefing.

Or he doesn't want to defend a freaky ass.

No, because he already wanted to defend a freaky ass.

Yeah.

I think there's drama.

Yeah. I think it's more paperwork, pushing papers around a desk thing.

I think they went out to team Dranks, and it was the classic Deer Toaster's, someone's man, flirt with someone's lady.

I'll have to check our email to see if we got any submissions.

If we got a submission from Anthony Rico.

Literally. You probably wrote it under a pseudonym.

Anthony Fika.

Oh, my goodness.

Are you ready for our next story, which I really tried to not choose, but then just all the thoughts inside of me were bursting to the top, okay?

I would love to know what you're referring to.

Megan Markle's latest set of Instagram stories.

Okay. I did watch them without sound, and I will say the content is starting to lose its luster for me. At first, I was like, Give me, give me, give me. And now I'm like, Okay, you're in a field. Who hasn't been there?

There are so many things here. She posted a set of stories, maybe six stories, each ranging 5 to 10 seconds, so very little snippets. The first story said, Small break from work to soak in the weekend, sunshine emoji. It's different videos around her estate of the flowers and then the grass and the dog running in the grass. It didn't matter that you didn't listen with sound. It was just the sounds of nature. Then there's one selfie of her that's three seconds. You can see that she's wearing a Northwestern sweatshirt, which Princess Diana famously wore. It's just a three-second selfie video. Nothing happens, but Megan is laughing. Classic, Megan.

So unbelievably classic. Now, I have no issue with this, except for one tiny thing. Okay. When people say taking a break from work, and it's a Sunday, right? That's when she posted it, or a Saturday. It's giving that TikTok sound, I just finished work, and it's 5: 19. Try being an influencer for a day. We get it, you work hard. We all do. When people have to post on social media to prove that they're working hard.

Yeah, like been in meetings all day. Finally have a minute to chat to you guys.

We don't give a fuck. Sure. I find that in a lot of... And mostly I find this when I'm watching other content creators or When it starts being a day in my life, I'm like, Well, you definitely chose a busy day and you are being dramatic. Of course.

Sometimes I'll have the busiest day, and I'm like, I should record a day in the life.

Yeah, of course.

People wouldn't believe what I do.

Not every day is like that. The truth is that most content creators, people who don't have really any structure in their drives, they don't even set an alarm. Now, I think Megan does set an alarm. Obviously, she has kids.

I think she naturally wakes up early. She seems like an early riser.

All is that to say, the little caption on the video was giving meetings, meetings, meetings, try being an influencer for a day.

But also this is her work, actually. When you say, what does Megan even do? If you had to actually nail down what she does, it's being a lifestyle content influencer now. You're not even taking a break from the work. It's more work, and this is the work.

You're creating and publishing content.

Yeah. It's not really a break. But she's soaking in the weekend. She's wearing the Northwestern shirt. She's making a little chuckle to herself. There's literally nothing.

There's absolutely- What do you think she was laughing at?

What is anyone ever laughing at when they're running through the backyard filming themselves? Like, nothing. It's.

Totally. I need her to stop.

Do you know what I mean? No. It's just stop until the show comes because then you can post show clips. There is seriously zero substance here. Every time we say there's no substance, then she puts out something with even less substance. It's comical at this point. I didn't even want to talk about it because not every time she posts an Instagram story, does it have to be news? But this was wild, honestly. And some of the videos she was recording, I think she did Cinematic Mode. So it was like, out of focus on a flower, and then it focuses in. It's giving Britney Spears.

Yes. The real story I'm not here. Yes. Every time she posted an Instagram story, it's not newsworthy. I tried. I know. Because she's been so silent for so long, and now we're forced to look at this so critically. I also find it so strange. I know when you're at that level, like Megan Markel is launching a company, you get the best social media managers, the best strategy people. All this content is pre-scheduled, pre-published. The content is so bad, and it really makes no sense. I think that a lot also about sometimes with Taylor Swift. When she joined TikTok, it was seriously some of the weirdest content. Everybody was making jokes that she was like, Chuggy Millennial, who didn't know how to use TikTok. You know that she has a whole team of people whose job it is to source the footage and the sounds and everything. It's like, How did we get with this piece of content with how many people who had to look at this? And that's how I feel a little bit about Megan. It's like, this instead of Instagram stories cost you $100,000, 1,000% based on salaries and agencies and contracts.

Oh, no. What I was going to say is she should spend $100,000 to get this right. The way it's filmed, I really think she filmed it. I don't think anyone that's a professional in this would have put it out this way. She should have someone filming her picking the orange. We want to see her. I don't want to see her hand. It could be anyone's hand picking the orange. No. There's so many pretty ways to package this because she lives on a beautiful house. I love mindless lifestyle, gardening, nature content love. You literally don't even have to say anything, even though it would be helpful if you did. So we just know who you are, but it's fine. You don't even have to. But there are ways to make this more beautiful. It's a naturally beautiful environment. I don't know how this is such a flop.

See, I think that it's a flop, and she had all these people working on it. There's no way she launched a huge social media campaign for... After years, she's She's finally coming back. There's no way she didn't hire the best of every agency you possibly could when it comes to marketing, social media management, content creators. You can think about all the agencies in LA who would love to... 1,000%, 55 people worked on the set of Instagram stories.

That's a crying shame. I still think it's just her being like, I know how to do this. I've got this, guys.

I don't think so.

Watch the magic.

I don't think so.

Well, I look forward to what's next. Still looking forward to the show. It's not looking good.

All south. Yeah. Even though, what's today's date? We're about 10 days away.

Did I write down the new date in my notebook? Oh, the good thing about being back in the studio I was having my notebook.

Yeah, you have to fill in Queeny and Weeny.

Even though I was fine without it, but it's nice to have. Okay. It moved- I do miss- Okay, it went from January 15th, it moved to March fourth.

I do miss a lot of things about my life in Florida. Yeah. One, I miss sitting behind a desk. I loved the power that gave me and also the flattering angle. Yeah.

But these chairs are comfier?

Yes, these chairs are comfier. I do miss my hotel. My hotel was fab. I know I told everyone, I stayed at a hotel for the first time ever since Jackie moved to Florida, and I won't be returning. And now that I've left the premises, I can say I stayed at the Boca Beach Club. It was amazing.

You should see if they want to do an Eloy partnership with you where you could live there. Where I live there?

Yeah.

And be a character who lives at the hotel. People could come and see you.

I really feel like I got my money's worth. When you go to a hotel and you use every possible amenity that they have to offer- We got your money's worth.

We got your money's worth. Even the day she checked out, we're like, Hey, yeah, Claudia Jacky's room.

We're going to get splashpad. We're going to get splashpad. Room 1101. We're going to get splash pad. Jackie literally showed up every day with her family. It's so family friendly, but also I use the spa. Me and Ben ate at all the restaurants. Ben used the golf course. Ben took the shuttle to all the different properties. We literally were like, It's like that episode of Friends, where Ross really wants to get his money's worth from the hotel. So he takes things from the hotel that technically aren't illegal. He doesn't steal the salt shaker, but he steals all the salt inside. That's yours to take. That was me at the Boca Overtone. That is so funny. Seriously, I was taking everything.

And also what they're so good about is so kid friendly, but they have very much cordoned off adult spaces.

It doesn't feel like if you don't- We were at the Beach Club, which is a little bit more adult, even though they have a bunch of kids' pools.

We had a couple hours, you and I, of just adult time. Time, we went to the spa.

We had lunch at the pool. We had lunch at the adult pool. Yeah, where Jackie was gossiping so loud. Was that where I was gossiping loud? Yes. I said, Could you lower your voice?

Sorry, we had lunch at another adult pool, too. At the beach. When on the lawn chairs where we- Yeah, but you weren't gossiping there. I didn't feel like I don't remember saying anything memorable there.

You didn't.

Anyways, good times.

Good times.

Are you ready for our next story? Whatever? Number three. Yeah, for sure. Is SAD news.

Sad or SAG?

Oh, it's SAD. But speaking of SAG, we made the executive decision to just skip over the SAG Afstra Awards. You guys barely care when we talk about the Grammys and the Oscars. We're certainly not I'm not even talking about SAG Afstra Awards.

We didn't watch it. Since when are people watching it? Because they streamed it on Netflix. I want to say, I think they actually did a good job of trying to get people to watch it. I saw a bunch of clips.

Yeah, I'm sure. But I seriously think- But since when When are SAG after required viewing? I think less than 10% of our audience watched the SAG Awards last night.

Great. I'm not a part of that 10%.

Right. We're not going to do a whole recap of this thing. There's plenty of awards. We're just skipping over that one. Agreed. But the sad news is that- Sad, da. Sad, da, is that Jesus Guerrero, a celebrity hair stylist of Kylie Jenner, Jennifer Lopez, tons of celebrities, has died suddenly and unexpectedly at the age of 34.

So this weekend- His Instagram name is @jesushare. I feel like people probably recognize him from all the girlies.

All the girlies. And then this weekend, news of his death came out on Instagram. The family announced the news in a series of Instagram stories on Sunday, and And then I'm sure you saw everyone's favorite celebrity posting about him. He was just, apparently, obviously, very talented hair stylist, an amazing person, an amazing friend. The community is really torn up about it, and it's very, very sad.

And it's so sad. But then, they're also Also was a very unverified drama about the conditions around his death. Apparently, he had fallen ill while traveling abroad with a celebrity who these unfounded rumors said was Jalo.

Just because a few days ago, he was in Dubai with JLo.

In Dubai with JLo. And he got very sick.

With pneumonia.

And the rumors were that JLo left him behind. Actually, it's been cleared up that, no, they got him back to LA. They got him proper care there, but he ended up getting pneumonia. I don't know what the real conditions around his passing are, but there was some drama trying to be made. Then it was quickly cleared up. I'm not entirely sure. Yeah.

But I think what is somewhat known as that, he felt Still ill and then passed away of pneumonia. Abroad. Yeah, abroad. But he was able to make it back, and whoever he was with did everything they could to get him back, to get proper care, but he still passed, which is just so sad. So sad. People are saying, obviously, the nicest things about him, but just he seems like someone who's just larger than life.

Yeah. And who really was... People kept around, one because he's obviously talented, but mostly because he's just got great energy. Yeah. That's really sad. And he's so young. Yeah.

Sad passing. Are you ready for our next story, which is some happy news?

Yes.

It's actually some very happy news. I don't know if you've seen this. You probably have.

Did it just happen?

Dolores Catania's son, Franky Jr. Oh my God.

Of course, I've seen my best friend Frank's son getting married.

Franky Jr. Is engaged to his girlfriend, Nicole Perico. They posted photos of the engagement. They got engaged on February 22nd at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York City. So There's a lot to note here.

They're so Italian.

One, Franky Jr. Is engaged. He did not mess around. How old is he? He's still- He's young. He's young, but he is serious. He's 26, which nowadays, is just young.

That's young for a guy.

They got engaged at St. Patrick's Cathedral She is so beautiful. I don't need to know- I didn't even know he had a girlfriend. I don't need to know anything more than these pictures to know that they are a match made in heaven.

I agree. I was so shocked to see this. One, because he is relatively young. Two, he's Frank Catania. See, your son, who's an endless playboy. So I just thought maybe that was going to be Frank Jr's life. I loved to see this, obviously. That should be me. But if it can't, I'm so happy it's this girl. What's her name? Amber. Nicole. Same thing. I'm so thrilled. I feel like Dolores is having an amazing year with traders. Everybody's loving her. She's crushing it now, personally. Things seem to be going really well for her. I was thrilled to hear this, and it does remind me about the issue at hand of New Jersey. And did you see last week there was a rumor that came out?

That three people have made the cut.

And they were Teresa, Melissa, Dolores?

No, I think it wasn't Teresa. And then I saw that This is getting her own show.

Getting her own show.

So is Melissa- Dolores.

Who was the third? Hold on.

I don't know.

I'm not going to- I saw, too. It was unverified. Yeah. And Rachel Fuda had her baby. I saw. Yeah. The claims were that Jennifer Aiden, Margaret Joseph, Rachel Fuda, and Danielle Cabral had been fired, and that Melissa and Dolores would be moving forward in the new season while Theresa would be giving a spinoff. For sure.

There was a third name, though. I'm with you. Yeah, there was, right? There was a third name.

Okay. This reality blog. Com. But then a spokesperson for Bravo said no decisions have been made for the casting around Ronge, even though I feel like that's a legit rumor.

I agree. Maybe the absolute decision hasn't been made, but this is what's transpiring.

Although I do think, and I'm obviously biased because I'm friends with her, but that Margaret should be on the list of people who stay because say what you want about her, love her, hate her. She is a polarizing housewife who makes shit happen.

Yeah, I totally agree. But she wasn't the third name. She was not because I remember it being like, Oh, damn, no Margaret.

Yeah. Who the hell was the third name that I'm glad that you saw it, too. I'm so happy for Frank Catania.

Yeah, me too. I'm so happy for this girl.

But like, hearts are breaking everywhere.

Yeah.

He's a dream boat for a lot of young girls. But I love that he's in a committed relationship I bet, 26. You wouldn't expect that from him. I don't know why. Right.

No, it's just because kids these days, they don't want to settle their down. Kids these days.

Not him getting married before his dad.

They want to have their cake and eat it, too.

It's true.

And he's shirking that. I love it. I love it as well. Mazel tov.

Mazel tov to the Catania family. Is Dolores... Wait. Dolores Catania.

Dolores Catania.

She has her married name. She's so old school like that.

The Catania-Perico family.

Well, what's her name going to be? Amber Catania.

Nicole Catania. Yeah, right. A couple of strong Cs.

Yeah, I was going to say it's continent-heavy, Nicole Catania.

No, it's perfect. She was born for it.

Oh, me and Ben are watching Desperate housewives, and we're almost done with it. We were talking last night like, Oh, my God, we're going to be so sad when it's over. Ben likes it more than me. And he had seen it before, but not for a few years. We were saying what we were going to do next. I realized upon discussing with Ben, Ben has I've never seen Friday Night Lights, and I think that's what we'll tackle next.

That's good.

I was like, You don't know, Clear Eyes, Full Heart, Can't Lose. He was like, I've heard of it, but I don't know what it's regarding.

That's good.

Yeah, I think he'll really like it. Tax is forever.

He will love it. He will love it. You will love it.

Like, literally one time, Jackie's kid said that. If you guys don't know, we've been saying that a lot recently. We forgot to give context. One time, we heard Harry say, You will love it, and we never were the same again. So you will love it. Ben, Ben will love it. Ben will love it, by the way. Harry's right.

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What can I say except you're welcome. Our fifth and final story that will lead into the White Lotus recap is that Sam Nivola, who plays the little weird little brother on White Lotus, the Ratliff family- The freak. Is revealing the surprising muse for his character in White Lotus. So he revealed to People magazine that Mike White, the creative White Lotus, modeled the Ratliff family in the show after Bravo's Southern Charm.

By the way, this is so amazing. One, because I could totally see it, and I had seen somebody saying in a tweet that the dad of that family gives Thomas Ravenel energy. I saw that maybe a week ago, and I was like, Oh, my God, totally. The accent is exactly the same. So this being true is so crazy to the person who tweeted that. But also, I feel like this is not the first time where celebrities and actors have admitted Bravo's influence. Was it Grace Van Patten, who was like, Yeah, we all watched Van der Pol's, or I modeled my character off of Toxic Stasi era. They are literally the blueprint for culture.

Yeah. No, and they're just such interesting characters that when you're trying to character develop on a show, it's like all the work is done for you. Just study.

Yeah. And I saw Lucius Malfoy, the dad, also talking about his accent because he, I think, is British. And he has such a really specific... It's not just a Southern accent. They were told to do North Carolina or something. So I bet they watched some Southern Charm.

Yeah, well, they did. So the little brother told people earlier this month that he prepared to play Lachlin Ratliff before We're heading to Thailand to film. He says, Mike White told him to watch one of Robert's popular reality shows as inspiration for the role. He said, Mike told us to go watch Southern Charm. In fact, Jason Isaacs, who plays our dad, modeled his whole accent and character off of that cast. He went on to joke that his on-screen sister got to skip out on the homework because she already had it down. She's from Alabama. She found out through everyone else that they were all told to watch Southern Charm. She felt left out.

When I think of the dad, yes, I definitely see him as a Thomas. When I think of the mom, she gives Patricia up. Yeah, a little bit. She is by far the best character. If someone's going to be nominated for an Emmy or whatever next season, it'll be her. She's so funny. The kids, I'm trying to think. Honestly, the older son is a little Shep, which sounds insulting to Shep.

A little bit, but then he's also a little Austin because he's younger. But yeah, definitely for the accent, it's really good.

The daughter doesn't remind me of anyone. I'm talking more like, characters.

I actually think Patrick Schwarzenegger does a really good job of carrying himself in the role where he just walks with his butt out, like a preppy guy. It's more than just accents. It's a whole persona. Yes.

Yeah. That must be the coolest feeling, too. You're Craig, and you open up People magazine, and you see this. The biggest show in the world, and they're modeling themselves after you. Yeah. And the episode was fine. The thing is with White Lotus is, in order to really enjoy it, you have to watch the whole season. So episode by episode, it's not a fun show to watch week to week.

It's true. Or at least it doesn't get fun until the end because right now we're world building and character development. Character development. Yeah. So it's a little bit... And people act like, Oh, my God, that was an amazing episode. No, it wasn't.

It wasn't. Stop. It wasn't.

I was bored. Half the time was scenery and animals, and then they are pouring tea. It's very slow, okay? It's all about sideways glances.

Actually, the only- And undertones.

The only group that's actually having fast-paced conversation where things are moving forward are the three women.

Okay, we need to talk about the three women. The three women are- Let me tell you how fucking real that was. At first, when the two girls, Leslie Bibb and Bridget Moynihan, were talking about the third, I'm like, That's so real. There's always somebody who's a third. Then the first episode, too, they were also leaving her out. But then it turns out that it's just one of those really toxic friend groups where you're just talking shit about the other person who's ever... About whoever's not in the room. Right. I'm like, That's also so real. But that girl who we thought was the initial... Don't ask me anybody's name in the show. The one who we thought was the big-time loser, but then also ended up being a little villain about Bridget Moynihan. I do think she's the toxic one in the friend group, even though it's a toxic friend group, period.

The one who's staying in the room outside the house?

Yes.

Oh, yeah. No, but she's definitely losing her mind. She's also drinking a lot. The But there's definitely dynamics between all three of them, but she is on the edge for sure.

Yeah. Are the other two going to start talking about Leslie Bibb, or is Leslie Bibb the- No, they're definitely going to start talking about her because she was also being weird.

There's things to say about her. Yeah.

Her chicken was No, not only that, the Parker Posey thing. Why would you remember spending the weekend with somebody 10 years ago?

No, Parker Posey was weird for that. Why was she either rude or doesn't remember?

Well, Parker Posey is on drugs, so that's why she was weird.

They didn't say 10 years ago.

Yes, they did.

Parker Posey said 10 years ago to her family.

Yeah. Was it not 10 years ago?

I don't know. She might have just said that to her family to explain why she was being rude, but Leslie Bitt didn't say that.

I saw a theory that you maybe don't understand because you didn't watch the second season, but But Portia, you know that actress, Haley Joe Richardson?

Who's Portia?

Last season, she played Jennifer Coolidge as personal assistant. I think she gets fired, whatever. She's that actress, Haley Joe Richardson, the one who's obsessed with the Jonas Brothers? You know her. Obsessed with the Jonas Brothers? You do. Just look her up. You know her.

Okay, but you can continue with your theory.

A lot of people think she looks a lot like the friend in the three friend groups who's staying outside.

Is that Ellie? You mean the daughter?

Yes. They're talking about her daughter who's that troubled. I saw a theory on TikTok that that's her Portia, the daughter.

I don't think so because they were talking about that girl, she's five years old, and she's like- That's what I thought also. Yeah, because also this girl's not still in school.

There's also a theory going around that this- That theory doesn't work for me.

I just want everyone I don't know. Okay.

This Thailand episode is happening at the same time as season 2. They're in the same exact time period. What about Greg? Well, Greg leaves.

When?

Halfway through Italy.

Greg has been there for a year.

Oh, yeah. I guess all these theories don't make sense. Maybe I should stop getting my information from TikTok. That's the thing. We're just desperately seeking meaning here. We didn't even talk about how Mouk, who is so gorgeous I'm upset with, is from Blackpink. Do you know that?

The girl?

The gorgeous girl who works at the hotel.

No, I didn't know she's from Blackpink. She's a member of Blackpink.

What's her name? Her name is Mouk, M-O-O-K, in the show.

But which... Lisa.

Yeah. She's Like the biggest one, no?

Yeah. Well, Lisa also has her own solo career. She performed at Victoria's Secret Fashion Show. How's she doing all this?

She's also a star. And I love that boy. And if she doesn't make that boy her husband, I'm going to kill her.

Of course. Well, now she's looking at him differently because he had a brush with death.

Now, I did see another theory on TikTok that I actually thought was a good theory.

Okay.

So when the robbery happens, the gate to the hotel is open because one of the employees, Valentin, comes in as being chatty.

And he's in on it, 100%. Yeah. 100%. Okay.

I didn't get that on my own, but when somebody sent him on.

And he's telling the guard, I'll get you tickets. There's not going to be any tickets. And the guard was just excited to be included.

There is no 5K. There is no fight. There's no fight. No, the guard is so sweet. I love him so much. There are also some theories that say Lisa from Blackpink is evil and a villain or two, but I don't see it.

No, I don't see it. Then what's the theory about the guy that was at the gate? Just that he was- Valentin, that he's in.

Valentin, that he's in? I didn't realize that that was obvious, that he was in on it.

That was obvious, yes.

Oh, okay. My My bad.

What's the theory about the balding with the girl?

Another theory is that Greg's girlfriend, that cool girl who lives up there, was also in on the robbery because she's conveniently in the dressing room the whole time.

I guess so. But if she knew the robbery was happening, why would she say, Let's go to the store?

Or if she knew the robbery was happening, why would she leave the dressing room? It's safe.

Yeah, they weren't going to hurt her.

I don't know what the theory on the Game of Thrones actress and the Balding Man is, but they are so my least favorite.

They're so boring. Yeah, but what's with the balding guy? What does he want from the owner's husband?

He's obsessed with the owner's husband. I don't know. I don't know.

Who else is there?

I just have questions, no answers.

Yeah, and they're leaving a lot of questions. They're leaving a lot of questions, so they're going to have a lot to answer for. Then, of course, who's the shooter?

Now, we didn't talk a lot about this last week, and I meant to. Then this week, they pulled back on a little bit the Radcliffe siblings wanting to fuck one another. There's a weirdness there. Patrick Schwartz and Eager jerking off in front of the little brother, both the older siblings being obsessed with getting the younger sibling to be their friend. They're trying to insinuate something.

It's not my favorite.

It's It's not my favorite.

Everyone is like, Oh, my God, the Incess Fives. Oh, my God, Mike White. It's not my favorite. I'm just not paying attention to it. Even when the two free-even when he woke up and the Tushy was there. When they're on the hammock, How could you ask me about my sex life? Seriously, I'm not paying attention. This is so uninteresting to me.

No, not only that. I didn't grow up with any brothers, so I don't know what's appropriate. But I know that talking to your sister about her losing her virginity is fucking weird and disgusting. I was like, Can we stop?

Yeah. And even if they are weird discussing and say the three of them have a three, so I'm like, I seriously don't care. I don't care.

But that hammock in the ocean, that looked amazing. I need the Boca Beach Club to get one of those. It looked so parchey.

It did look very peaceful until your little brother comes up and ends up being annoying.

So funny. Me and Ben were talking about... Because we just got back from a hotel, and we were like, Ben was like, That place looks amazing. I'm like, Really? It looks horrible. It's not really a hotel. It's this wellness thing, but it also has a beach. And Ben was like, actually, yeah, I can imagine having a really nice day there, and that's about it. Imagine spending a week there. Yeah.

Except the wellness, you could just choose massages.

Opt out of, yeah.

But is it only healthy food?

It's the first time that the show is focused on a property that's not just a hotel for rich people. It's like a wellness therapy retreat. Who gives a fuck? Yeah. Not my favorite.

I think it makes it worse. Not my favorite.

Not my favorite.

And then I'm It's sad for the dad that he's going to- I have such a pit for him. I know. I don't even know him, but I just want things to work out for him. Me too.

I'm rooting for him.

I am rooting. I don't know why I am, but I'm rooting for him.

He did his friend a favor, and his friend sold him down the river. Yeah.

I don't know if he's a good guy or a bad guy, but I don't know. I just feel bad that when he goes home, he's going to jail. That's sad.

No, that's not even what I feel bad about. He seems so stressed, and he's the biggest pit. That's a worst feeling. I feel sad for him that he's feeling that.

When the lady was like, Can I take your phone? On the one hand, of course, no. I have to find out if I'm going to jail. But maybe let's find out in seven days.

It wouldn't be so bad. It wouldn't be. It's happening regardless.

Yeah, but then it's like, if he is going to jail when he goes home, should he just disappear?

Right. He has the advantage of being out of the country. Now, Love is Blind. Can we transition for a minute into the Love is Blind recap? Oh, yeah. There are now nine episodes out. We get six Pods episodes, one and a half Honduras episodes. And now we're back in where they live, Minnesota, where they've moved into apartments together. They're starting to meet families. Now, so many crazy, weird things happened. Let's go couple by couple. Jackie Taylor and Daniel Short King and Christmas Girl.

And Instagram.

Yeah. Have you seen the Instagram thing play out?

I've seen a clip where she says, I saw them- Okay, so you haven't seen it.

You haven't seen it.

Okay, no. Oh, my God, Claudia, I'm I literally am still at Ibuprofen. Stop.

Oh, my God. Okay, so they leave the pods, and they're clearly in a holding space. They're at a hotel. We wouldn't have filmed ever at this hotel. They haven't gone to Honduras yet, but they're just waiting there. Taylor's like, It came to me where I know him from, he followed me on Instagram. She tells producers, and they set up this filming situation where she ambishes him in this conference room in a hotel. She's like, You felt so familiar to me, and I couldn't figure it out, but you followed me on Instagram, and I remember that I looked at your profile, and there was a picture of you sitting in front of a Christmas tree with a drink in your hand. I just remember it. Do you have a picture like that on your Instagram? He was like, Maybe. I don't know. I have a picture of me sitting in front of a fireplace. She was looking for this one specific photo. Then she's like, There was so much about me in my bio that you could have gleaned. That I'm a nurse, I like Chaco Bell and that I love Christmas. It's like, okay, well, that's a lot of information for your bio, but sure.

She was basically implying that he took these little nuggets about her and made them his whole personality because they're both obsessed with Christmas.

I'm sorry, but if that's what you fell in love over, then your picker was off to begin with.

She just keeps asking me, did you ever follow me on Instagram? Maybe you unfollowed me. And do you have this picture of yourself on your Instagram? It's like, well, if she just had her fucking phone, we could figure this out. 20 minutes later, a producer is like, Taylor, we're willing to give you back your phone. Do you want it? Or do you want to just believe Daniel, that face value. She's like, give me my phone. She gets her phone and she admits, which is so embarrassing, that she has that unfollow app where you can see who unfollowed you because- That's things to work. Yeah. Because he obviously doesn't follow her right now, but He probably did. So we sit there in dead silence. Did he ever get his phone back? No, but it's possible that he followed and unfollowed her before going into the pods.

How would he know she's going on the pods?

Jackie, the whole thing made no fucking sense. Just wait, okay?

I'm listening, but And by the way, he's acting so guilty.

She's like, If I open my phone and see you there on that unfollow app, he's like, Well, you might- That's the craziest part of this story that she has. He's like, Well, you might. I don't remember. I don't know what you're talking about. He kept saying, I don't remember. I don't remember. So guilty, right?

Yeah, but I guess he probably just follows a lot of random girls and doesn't want to cop to that.

Jackie, they make us watch in silence. She scrolls through all the people who haven't followed her over the years. And she actually makes a joke being like, Damn, I lost a lot of followers. Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, only for her to not find him there. And that's it. That's the whole scandal. I don't know if it comes back, but now I'm at episode nine and it's been buried. Wait, what?

Are they still together? Yeah.

Meaning the parents, it's going really well. It wasn't a thing.

Oh my God.

She literally made it up?

I don't know, but she seems like a little paranoid. Plus she has the unfollow app, and she's a little Instagram crazy. This doesn't good well.

Yeah. It was so cringe because I'm like, Oh, she's making a big deal out of it. And then it turns out not to be true, but he was acting so guilty. The whole thing. And he was like, Well, if you don't want to go to Honduras, it's fine. He wasn't mad at her at all. It was weird.

That is so weird. Yeah.

So then They end up actually being a cute couple. His parents are so in love with her. They love it so much. Her parents hate this whole thing, but still agree to be on camera. They actually both set to parents get together. It ends up being fine. I actually think they have a shot in hell. I do. Next couple I I'm going to talk about is Virginia and Ibuprofen. I actually really like them. I think that they have good chemistry, and they have a good time in Honduras, but a lot of their storyline is now about money. She's a little bit older. She does pretty well. She has a house, and she's just been talking about a prenup, and he doesn't really object to it. She's just like, Listen, why not? There's literally no downside. Then when his parents hear about it, they're definitely weirded out by it. Because I hate when people are like, Why are you quitting this marriage before it even starts? Like, Shut up. I just fucking hate that. A prenup is... Especially for a woman of a certain age who's built up a life for herself.

And especially getting married in this way. It's a gamble. Of course. It's a gamble.

Of course it is. So they're quiet. I don't know if they have the great love of our lives. I don't think so. But there don't give me any red flags. They're just boring.

Yeah. Sometimes it's like, We're just trying to make it till the end. Don't notice us.

Yeah, right. And then there's Joey and Monica, who you can't not notice. They are beaming with personality. All they do is laugh and giggle. The Sockbin, the Sockbin. She tells this story that... It's so funny. Every family has their thing, right? And her family's thing is that growing up, how You go into your room, you have a drawer for your undies and socks. Her family didn't have individual drawers for socks. They had this one laundry basket full of socks. And when you needed socks, he would just go to the Sock bin. He can't get over it. He can't get over how weird this is. He thinks it's the craziest thing ever. They talk about it all the time when he goes to her house to meet her parents. He requires. He says, I need to see the Sock bin. It's seriously so funny. So they're having a lot of fun and all is good. But there is something weird that goes on with Monica family. Monica has a sister. So it's Monica's parents, Monica, Monica's sister, and Monica's sister's boyfriend. And they share that Monica's sister's boyfriend and her met because he actually was talking to Monica.

And then Monica was like, I actually think you would like my sister. So they didn't date or fuck, but they met romantically. That's nice. It actually made Monica look really good. Yeah. But it becomes very clear that there's a weird relationship between her and her sister. The sister feels threatened, or Monica would be getting married now before the sister. And Joey actually says... Because the sister had a problem with Joey. I don't know. I don't think he's good for you, or whatever. And it's like, there's nothing wrong with him. You know? So they're recapping afterwards, and Monica's like, Yeah, she just always has problems with people I bring home. Don't take it personally. And he's asking more about that. And he just very boldly was like, Do you think your sister's jealous of you? And she so is. He diagnosed this family perfectly, and it was very brave. And Monica was like, Oh, I don't know. I never thought about it that way. Maybe because of the weirdness with the boyfriend. Can I ask a crazy question?

Yeah. What does she look like?

Monica's prettier than her, too. Okay. So Joey just said something extremely Safe. Yeah. But also 100% correct because it was such a weird vibe. And Monica's really very lovely girl, very positive, laughing. There was a weird vibe with the sister, and we're like, What's going on? And then Joey said it. I'm like, Oh, yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially because her boyfriend used to like Monica. It's weird. Yeah. But then in the trailer, it seems like Joey stops being so into Monica. Right now, they're in a good place, but in the trailer, she's like, I feel like I like him more than me.

I feel like the trailers are so They're so misleading. Remember when they had us thinking that Jimmy slept with Jessica after he was with Chelsea, and it turned out it was just about his girlfriend, his friend girl? That's true. They're so misleading. She probably was talking to someone just being like, I feel like I like him more than me. I feel like I like him more It makes me chatting. Just because I like him so much.

Yeah, okay, fine. That makes me... Yeah. Because I actually think that they're a good couple, and they actually make me and Ben laugh. They're really sweet with one another, and they're one of the few couples that had sex. So I'm I got to cut to Dave and Lauren next, and we'll get into our whole thing.

That's the arsehole and the nurse?

Yeah, the arsehole and the nurse. When they're in Honduras, they get together one time with the whole group.

Dave and Lauren?

No, the whole group gets together Have we moved on? Yeah, I'm moving on. Okay.

Consider us moved on.

Dave, when they get together, Dave has told us... I hate that they wake up after the first night, and they don't just tell us if they had sex or not. I'm sorry. I know it's invasive, but you should have to tell us. I'm curious. They don't. And me and Ben are guessing. You can tell a little bit. Dave, when they all get together, goes up to every single person and is like, You fucking?

There's always that guy. I really appreciate it. There's always that guy.

I was curious. I would never do it, but he wasn't having sex. So I think he wanted to make sure that that was normal. Is this normal?

Yeah.

So what we find out is that the liberal and the Christian... I can't remember anyone's names.

Who's that? Oh, the girl and the guy.

Gay sister and Christian and the Catholic.

Gay sister and church every week, but I'm not. With his faith. But I barely believe in God.

Social causes and church. They had sex, which I found really shocking. Joey and Monica had sex. Okay. And I think that's it. Dave and Lauren did not.

Virginia.

Virginia did not. Those are all the couples, right?

No. Oh, Shorty.

They did not because they were working through that weird Instagram thing. Even though after that, she shouldn't just talk about something else, she should have just started fucking so that he would forget that weird thing she did.

Shorty.

At first, I'm liking Dave because I feel like maybe he was misunderstood a little bit in the pods because he was being like- An arse. An arse in the pod. Then he was being really sweet with Lauren about whenever you're ready to have sex, take your time. He was being very patient. But then they get back to Minneapolis and things immediately go wrong because it turns out that before the trip, excuse me, before the pods, Lauren was seeing a guy, very casually, probably just fucking. I think they hung out maybe a week before she left for the pods. This guy is actually connected to Dave and his friends. Dave's friends, they're mutual friends. It's a small town. I love this. Dave's friends tell Dave, being like, Yo.

I love that for the teacher.

Right.

You don't think the teacher had it in her.

So Dave's friends are like, Lauren is seeing someone. They're really trying to make it nefarious. And so Lauren's back is up against the wall. She's being forced to explain this. She just was having sex. It's situationship. And she does. She was like, Okay, yeah. We hung out a couple of times. He actually used to date this girl that we worked with. We got ice cream. She was just forced to share uncomfortable parts of this thing. Nobody wants to admit that they were just fucking some guy. And he is just so So disturbed by it. He can't get over it, and he doesn't believe her. He believes his friends who are saying she was in a full-blown relationship with this grifter before the trip and wanted to become famous. And she's literally having to defend herself so hard It just doesn't go away because he's acting weird for a whole week, and he's like, It's this thing with the guy. I can't. The guy lives in the building that they just moved into. What? It's this huge building, and it's a small town. They're supposed to get their friends and family together, but it gets canceled because they just keep fighting about it.

It's becoming very clear because there's nothing here. She's not like that. You can tell it's so nothing, but he doesn't stop.

He's using it as an excuse.

Yeah. He's like, Well, my sister knows about it now. He's been obsessed with his sister the whole fucking time.

Even in the pods. My sister likes that music, too.

Yeah, and my sister and I kiss.

I think you really get along with my sister.

Yeah, we also use tongue. They're seriously something weird going on with the sister. And then when the sister hears... The sister is already skeptical about this whole process and about Lauren in general, but the sister hears this rumor about- I already knew the sister was skeptical about the process because Dave told me. And once the sister hears about this big scandal, it's like setting them back so much. And it's like, Lauren is really well-meaning, and he is not. It's actually painful to watch her defend herself so hard and just be not believed. And he's like, I don't... He literally will say, I don't believe you. He's like, I believe my friends.

Well, yeah, you have to trust the person that you're with. And even if you have nothing go on, you have to believe them until they give you a reason not to. So if he can't do that, it's not a relationship.

Of course. They need to break up immediately. In this preview, Molly comes and- He sees Molly. Yeah, he sees Molly. A lot of theories that he looked at Molly on Instagram. But I don't think that Lauren and Molly are so different- They're not. That you would look and be like, Oh, I got to leave Lauren to get to Molly. They're both very pretty girls. They're not one more extraordinary than the other.

Yeah, but I think it's just someone who just wants his cake and eat it, too. He was always going to be looking at the next thing. So unless the other girl was much less attractive, he was always going to be like, Hey, what's going on over there? That's the other people. Oh, what's going on with Ben Platt?

Oh, you'll have to wait and see. Can I tell you?

No, but you haven't even mentioned. Please let me tell you. You haven't even mentioned him and his girl.

Can I tell you about Ben Platt? Yeah. So Madison breaks up with Mason because her number one is Ben Platt, and they have more dreadful conversations. Then he's like, No.

Not proposing.

Yeah. They get to an inflection point, and he's like, I just don't think we're good for each other. She's like, What? I broke up with Mason. He actually said the Mason thing had a lot to do with it. She just was so high and mighty and really weird about it, and she didn't like how he treated, how she treated Mason in that moment.

Wait, I don't feel like she did that.

Oh, I thought she did. I thought she was being really weird with Mason being like, You played two girls.

You don't even like him. Sorry, I haven't gotten to that part yet, but so far, I actually have respect for her that like- No, when she breaks up with Mason, I saw a totally different side of her. Okay, because right now, I'm like, Usually people drag the two till the end because they're just playing both odds. I actually like that she broke up with one and made a strong choice for a Ben Platt.

Yeah, but I've never seen it that you make a strong choice, and then you don't end up with that guy.

Yeah, because that he's saying, No, that's really crazy. I actually like the fact that she early on was I'm going with Ben, and I guess she did like, and throw the other girl under the bus, but I haven't gotten there yet.

They're not in Honduras. They're not a factor anymore, even though they show up to this party next week.

Mason and blonde.

And Meg also show up to the party.

Oh.

Well, no, not together.

No, but they'll see each other.

They'll see each other. And I actually got from the trailer that they had connected already. I don't think it was the first time. I think that they are seeing each other. It's just like a vibe.

I love when there's a party.

So the last couple, and the episode ends with this TikTok drama, and it's about churchman and social causes. And so she's sitting on the couch, and they're probably in the best spot. Everything's going really well from them. They're having great sex. He brings his whole group of friends to meet her, and they're a really diverse group. It was just what she needed. No, for real. One of the girls there was lesbian, and I think that was really a relief for her. Like, wow, one of your best friends who you talk about religion with is gay. It was really going well. And I was like, You know what? Maybe these two have a future. She's sitting on the couch and she's scrolling on her phone, and she goes, Oh, my God. At first, I thought it was going to be gossip, juicy, not about her. Apparently, While this was happening in real-time, so a year ago, everyone in Minneapolis was talking about the fact that the love is Blind people, it's a small town. So that the cast is coupled up living in this apartment building, and this TikTok goes viral of a girl crying, being like, I'm I'm so sick of Love is Blind casting these terrible men who do terrible things, like using very strong words.

She doesn't exactly say who it is or what he did, but just being like, I'm sick of it, Netflix giving a platform to these people. So very quickly, the investigator They start investigating, and it's Churchboy Ben. Is that his name? Yeah. That's not Ben Platt. Yeah. Okay. Then other people start sharing their stories. Now, he hasn't been accused of any great crime. She was definitely using a lot of euphemisms. She was just being exaggerating. But basically, he's like a dick. He dates a lot of girls, says he wants a relationship, then never hears from you again after you have sex with you. Nothing criminal, but not good guy that you want to bring home to mother behavior. Then a lot of girls are like, Oh, my God, I dated him, too, and we went home together. It was giving... Remember West Elm Caleb? Yeah. Just a viral guy in a city who dates a lot of girls and promises them the world, and then they have sex, and you never hear from them again. Sarah is in this unique spot because she's her social cause. She's like, Well, I'm not going to invalidate this woman's experience.

But there's no proof. I'm not going to also write off my fiancé because of this one video where she doesn't really say what you did. She was like, Have you seen this TikTok? And he's like, Yeah, he had already seen it. So he must have had the biggest pit until she saw it. She's like, Do you know this person? He's like, Yeah, we dated four years ago. And she's asking him questions about the relationship. Did you ghost her? Did you have sex with her? And he's like, No, I didn't have sex with her. I can't remember if I ghosted her. She's like, You don't remember? And so she's like, drilling him. She's really trying to straddle the line between not invalidating this other woman's experience while also holding space for, it could be a lie, and this is my fiancé, and I like him, but I also need to do proper digging. And so she said at the end of the episode, right before they cut, was like, I believe you, but if I hear anything else, so if there's anything else you want to fess up, let me know, because if I hear something else, I'm going to be pissed.

And I do think in future episodes, because the TikTok blows up and other girls start coming out, I think it becomes a much bigger thing.

Okay.

Yeah.

Well, I look forward to hopefully getting there one day, maybe next year at the rate I'm going.

If I were you, seriously, when the new episodes come out- Fast forward to the pods. No, when the new episodes come out, just join me. I told you everything. No, you know what?

Maybe I'll just start watching Honduras now because I want to see that. That's fun.

No, you need to see Taylor scrolling through the unfollow app.

That's Honduras.

No, it's before Honduras.

Okay, I'll skip to the end of the pods. But I do like to see people's reaction when they see each other because I just know.

Do you have a chance? Yeah, you do just know.

Is there a physical issue between anyone where it's someone is displeased? No.

Sometimes it's so obvious that somebody finds the other person so ugly that they can't go on.

Or sometimes it's so obvious that someone is more attractive than the other person. Even if they're not acting like it, it's like, well, we all know.

A thousand %. No, there's nothing like that. That's what everyone's very ordinary. And I saw Nicole Byer talking about this on a podcast, and I had said it, she said it in a much funnier way. But she's like, Throw Show us some ugly fatties in there. You're like, Is love blind and everybody looks the same? Well, we don't know. It's only really interesting when it comes to the blind love experiment, when there are people of varying degrees of sexiness. I'm sorry. Everybody on this cast is equally good-looking.

Yeah, this isn't a question of, Is love blind? I mean, the show never actually sets out to answer that question because- Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Love is not blind. When you're in a pod, you're really just talking to yourself. I like that. Some people have found relationships coincidentally, but it's not because love is so blind. Because then you could have the same conversation with someone in person. It's just the way people speak. It's not even about what they look like, how they move their hands, how they squat over like a- Who am I? How they squat over like they're on a table. You're blind.

You're loved being blind.

No, I'm loved. You are loved being blind.

So new episodes come out in four days. You have four days to catch up.

Oh, my gosh. Well, why? It comes out on Friday?

The 28th, I think.

What did I also get the weekend then? It's a freaking weekend. Oh, yeah.

Okay, that's good. Yeah, they do it on Friday, and I literally forgot.

I have to read a 600-page book for the Redheads, so it's not the freaking weekend, okay? And it's only Monday.

Okay, well, on that note, thanks.

Yeah.

Should we wrap up?

Yeah, we should, so I could start reading.

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Love you. Goodbye. I have given up on hard hands now that I couldn't even do it with a monitor.

Now that you see that you're the problem, right?

I couldn't even do it with a monitor in front of you.

We have video proof, and I'm so glad everybody was able to see it. They said, Yes, Jackie is the problem.

Something that's just as important as never giving up on your dreams is also giving up on your dreams when you realize they're out of your reach.

They're not realistic. Yeah, I love that.

So goodbye. On that note. On that note, love you. We could both go like this. Love you, bye. Love you, bye.