Transcript of She Doesn't Even Know: Tuesday, September 9th, 2025

Good morning, girlies. It's The Toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.

It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's The Toast.

They sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Tuesday. It's a big day if you're a member of the DTQ. It's a big day if you're a big woman, and I am. Oh, speaking of, I weighed myself this morning. Sorry not to just start on such a negative note. Hey, Jacks, how are you doing?

Hey, turtle. You did weigh yourself this morning. You called me, and I actually am thinking about weighing myself now. Oh, wow. I'm just curious. This whole pregnancy, especially because I feel like I packed on a lot fast, and I was like, I don't want to know. Every doctor's appointment, I'm like, I don't want to know. I just chugged my simple modern 40ozumbler, and you're weighing me. I don't I want to know. But now, I'm curious. I feel like now the number that I think it's going to be super high, it's a point of pride, almost.

I have to say, as an outsider, complete third party with no particular interest in the matter. I think you look very good. I think you'll be surprised that you don't look so crazy.

I think I'm going to weigh myself tomorrow morning because I like to know the stats. I got to include it in my lifelong note on my phone of my weight throughout the years.

I weighed myself before the summer. It was like two months after... No, like five weeks after baby, and I was really pleasantly, not terribly unhappy. I mean, I wasn't thrilled, but it was fine. And then I just lived it up. Lived it up, and I gained 13 pounds over the summer. So seriously, don't fucking talk to me.

I didn't want to make you feel worse, but you know what else I was thinking? What? We've been home for two weeks, both being extremely slender. Yeah, of course. I definitely gained more. Yeah, you've probably lost weight since you've been home, so you probably gained more.

The thing is, I don't even know why I weighed myself because I'm really not going to do anything about it. Maybe I'll think twice before the second cookie, but I'm really not going to do anything about it. I just have this information in my hands, and I wish I didn't.

Yeah, same. I don't know what to do for you because- You know what?

I don't even want to talk about it. Okay?

I don't even want to- First of all, I just want to say I haven't... Visibly, you look beautiful. I never said you were ugly, but you don't look any different than you did at the beginning of the summer. But it's just a tough time where you can't take extreme measures. Of course, you can't go on a GLPA1 when you're breastfeeding as of this moment. You can't even starve if you wanted to because you are breastfeeding and you- And I don't want to. And you can't. Like, literally, I've never been hungry in my life than when I was breastfeeding.

It's fine. It's fine. It is what it is, and it was what it was.

And maybe it is going to be a BGF after all.

Yeah, and it will be what it's going to be.

I think you're doing great. This is going to be just a blip on the radar screen of your life. It will all... It's so soon- It's actually going to be a blip. It's so soon that you'll be back doing your snatchy things, and you'll remember this time fondly. Don't get hung up on it. I know we need to send it done.

It's fine.

Moving on. You've inspired me. You've inspired me to take the plunge.

I am an inspiration.

Yeah. So I'll let you... You'll be getting a FaceTime from me tomorrow.

It's Tuesday means there's your toaster. We actually have something major going on this week.

You mean tomorrow?

This week is major.

This week is major. I agree.

If you're a member of the DTQ.

Yeah, we have two days of Deer Toasters this week because we have a sponsored segment tomorrow.

Yes, somebody wanted to come in and sponsor Deer Toaster, and I said, You know what? Put your money where your mouth is. We'll do two. One regular, one sponsored. Stay tuned tomorrow to find out who the sponsor is. It's actually a really good one. Today's is just a regular old DTQ, and then tomorrow's is a little bit more thematic. The theme is mother-in-law.

Double DT, double the fun.

Double the D, double the fun.

Double trouble, just like us.

Toil and trouble.

I'm wearing jeans today. It's so crazy. They looked really cute. I posted a picture on my Instagram. You could check them out. But when I went to sit, they wouldn't stay buttoned.

It wasn't so cute.

They are open. I don't know if you can see, maybe my leg is covering the fact that my jeans are open. If you can see, just eyes up here, okay? My eyes are here.

I'm wearing a pair of $200 sweat pants. That's how far I've fallen.

Who makes them? Are there sweat pants, though? They're not silk? They're not silk?

No, I have the silk ones, too. I'm in a place where I'm just buying things that fit. It's like the price is just what it is.

The price is right.

Yeah, every price is right.

No, the draw string, like wearing pants right now, not Not even wide. They're just pants. I can't explain it. That's what's in. That's what really what I'm feeling. When I get dressed in the morning, I'm like, What pants are we wearing today?

Oh, a thousand %. I feel like there was a time in my life where I really valued elasticity, like elastic pants, which, of course, I love an elastic waistband. But there's really something to be said about a draw string.

I don't know. I wore a draw string yesterday, maybe because of the way I had it placed because I had to wear it so high up. It looked so funny, these strings hanging out of my belly.

Well, also the art of the string. They can't be too long, they can't be too short. You don't want to be in a knot, you need a pretty little bow. It's delicate, but we as women, we can figure it out.

At one point, I would get dressed every morning. I'd be like, Okay, I'm wearing leggings and what? And these days, it's like, Okay, I'm wearing pants and what? It's just a shift that I've noticed that I welcome. I personally was inspired by Molly May. Shopping maybe made me start dressing like that, but I see it's happening to women all over.

Speaking of women all over, I did something crazy last night.

Oh, God. What'd you do? What'd you do, Jissy? Jackie. What'd you do, Jistle Tank?

Jackie, I did something crazy last night.

You watched the Real House Eyes of Miami.

Jackie. I'm trying to quote us.

Sorry, I'm cutting to you. Yeah, crack.

I Something that's something crazier. Cork.

Cork. Meth.

I said meth.

Meth.

Crazier.

What?

I started season 2 of With Love, Megan. Okay. It pretty much started and stopped within 30 minutes. No, 15 minutes. It was really dreadful. I watched with Ben, and I watched through the lens. He thought he was just sitting down to a party cooking show, and we actually watched Ina after. We watched a lot of cooking shows. I thought Ben actually might enjoy it, but she didn't cook. She invited people over, and she already had onion tarts made, and she didn't show us how to make them. She had over really legit people, the starters of Momo Fuku and Milk Bar.

They're like, I think they're married.

She made them a little gift, and so she handed them the box. Then The show paused. She was like, Let me show you how I made these gifts. It cuts a pre-made package of her dying silk scarves.

Dying them?

Yeah. She was like, Let me show you how I do it. It's so easy. Then she showed us, and she was like, This is my first time ever doing this. Why don't I do it more? I'm like, But you're giving a tutorial. How can you give a tutorial on something you've never done?

Yeah, it's tough. That's a tough feature of the show. I actually had seen some people messaging me being like, It looks like they took some of your feedback from last season. Because I just wanted more. I want more info. When do you cook? When do you cook? When did you start to cook? Just more backstory. I thought maybe they included more of that, but no, more Pinterest projects on the fly. No, you don't make scarves, typically.

More on the fly, Pinterest project. That's exactly what it was.

Don't make them for us.

Jackie, there was more Daniel. He was in the first episode, the makeup artist.

Maybe he had a high Q score. They obviously didn't ask me.

I didn't watch more than maybe 10 minutes. Ben was genuinely horrified. I watch it for fun, and there's elements of it. It's the craziest, stupidest, most amazing show, but I watch it through my own lens. Ben really watches it. Ben takes notes when he watches Ina. She made this chicken cooked in butter yesterday. Ben couldn't get over it. So he watches them really critically. I think he's an ideal viewer. He's looking to learn.

He's literally missing his scalp for a fire.

He's looking I'm trying to learn, but I can learn. Let me tell you, he was not learning anything from With Love, Megan, unfortunately. And Farch.

She makes a nice frittata.

We didn't get to the frittata. She did fry an egg. And then Momofuku Man actually fixed it for her because she did it wrong. He was like, You have to do this. I think he put a little water or something. I don't know. Oh, no, he put a plate on top.

These are the tips that we come for. Moma Fuku should have a show.

I bet he does.

Yeah. I bet he does. Did Ben start his bread this Are you kidding?

Of course not. You're lying. I'm not. He had an appointment to get his... Ben's life has been defined recently by this custom set of golf clubs that he's making. You buy golf clubs and they have special sizes. It's based on your height, weight. You get one for a person who's 6 foot. It's all pretty general. It's like a shoe. But I guess when you get to a level that's like, you're really good at golf, you have custom made for your exact hip range, elbow size. I don't fucking know.

Does it change based on your weight?

Kind of. It's like a wedding dress. You go in for fittings.

Why would you gain or lose weight?

Let me tell you, Ben is gaining and losing weight. Yeah.

No, he's- He fluctuates.

He's a little girly like that, actually, the way Ben fluctuates. He went for his custom fitting this morning because I heard you talking him on the phone last night, telling him exactly what to do, wake up, do the fold and stretch, whatever. Because he called me at five o'clock last night saying, I'm about to start my loaf.

I was like, What are you going to wake up in the middle of the night and do stretch and fold? You can't start. It's a 12-hour process. You have to start in the morning. Yeah, somewhat time when you're going to be up 12 hours later, not in the evening. We made a whole plan for him to start at 7: 30 or 8: 00 whenever he gets up and starts his day.

He woke up and went right to try back at it to get fit in for his golf clubs. He's another fitting. He's literally getting married.

So he said golf over loaf.

Correct. He said flog over full.

But when is he going to start his loaf? Tomorrow? Were you Jacky, I don't know.

I'll tell you, he's not serious about it. I'm telling you.

I know.

I think he liked the idea of having a starter. Then beyond that, I don't know if he thought past that.

Well, just wait till he makes a pargy loaf of bread because that feeling is addicting. But I do worry that that feeling won't come for a while because it's a lot of trial and error. But I actually think he's going to have success with it. I think going with ChatGPT accompanying you is a great idea. I would recommend it to all sourdough swirleys. I actually I changed my cook times based on ChatGPT.

And it worked?

Yeah. Because I was feeling like it's not perfect every time. It's great, it's delicious, but it's not perfect. Not something I would sell in a store.

Right. We're always looking for So our worthy bread.

Yeah.

So what else can I tell you?

What else can you tell me, Tarty? I watched the Meal House in Miami last night, but I couldn't stay focused. I lost focus. I called it a night.

That's okay.

Yeah. I have a busy day today, so I was like, Let's get some Zs.

Trying to think. What else do I want to tell my sister, Jacks?

I don't even know.

We did something bad today, me and you.

We FaceTime this morning.

We FaceTime before the show because I wanted to tell Jackie that I waited myself. I feel like I compromised the quality of the show.

No, I don't think you did because we just had a conversation that, one, we've all had on the show before, and two, that we wouldn't be having on the show today, which is like, Can you go on Ozempic while you're best feeding? You know how I feel. I don't know. It's not my favorite idea.

I feel like the show we were going to have before the FaceTime and the show we're going to have now after the FaceTime are two different shows. It's sliding doors.

You know what it's giving? It's giving back in the day, toast of we just have to jump into the stories because we know too much about each other. We're up each other's butt.

No, we're so familiar. It's disgusting.

Yeah. That's why we have to talk about the stories because we have nothing to talk about.

Well, we do have deer toaster, so that's good.

We have to have a long show today. The The stories are interessant.

What's the leading one?

Olivia Jade and Jacob Alorby.

Oh, you're saying that the leading story is Cheney was right?

You were right about Glenn Powell, not dating Olivia Jade. But when Olivia and Jacob broke up, you never said, No, they're still together.

No, I didn't say that, but I did not say it.

You did leave it open to them being together. But we did take the opportunity to take a big duty on and be excited for how well she's going to do after this. Now we have to go back to the place of shipping them, which I've still moved on from.

I'm at the place in my Olivia Jade Stanhood, but whatever Olivia wants, Olivia gets, and I support. I'm trusting my fave.

Trusting your... I completely agree. Trusting my fave.

I did want to tell you something I saw on TikTok because I know you didn't see it. There is a TikTok account called the Toast Fan, whatever. They post really cute party clips of us.

No, you guys.

She has been as active as I wanted recently. But I know her. She's actually started the morning... She was the morning breather's Instagram girl. Her name is Sophie. Do you know her? She lives in Miami.

Yes, I do.

She's an OOG fan. She's always clipping us, helping us go viral. Can't appreciate her enough. She made a video on the page talking to a camera. I was like, Oh, my God, what's going on myself? What's going on? She actually is going to be on the season of survivor. She wanted to tell everyone toosters who love survivor. Tune in because you're girls on the season. I feel like maybe she won or I don't know why. I just have a feeling.

Is it she already filmed it?

Yeah, I think that's how survivor works, right?

Who knows?

Actually, I'm not sure. Well, if you're a toaster- Someone right now, but not us. If you're a surviving toaster, make sure to root for Sophie.

Yeah. Also, message to all tosters. Go on reality shows so we can root for you. We love- Jackie, message for all tosters.

Go on reality shows so you can wear our merch.

So you can quote us. We love watching shows with tosters in them. It makes it so much more fun.

Speaking of quoting us, we have the craziest dear toaster today that directly involves us. There's a girl writing in about- Is it a love you situation? A love you situation?

A lot of people have gone into a pickle in new Relationships because they sign off everything love you, bye. Then we've gotten Deer Toaster. That's funny. We've gotten dear tosters about that where they prematurely say, I love you, but they didn't say, I love you. They said, Love you, bye.

They're like, LARping as us. No, that's not the situation. This one's actually crazier. That's That's just a little tease for what's to come in the DTQ.

We're doing a lot of teasing, but not a lot of substance.

Okay, so we're like every other podcast out there. I love it. See us.

No, this is what we should be doing. We're going to have record numbers.

Have you heard about this thing called podcast farming?

No.

I read an article about it, and I guess it's true. When you swipe through social media, TikTok or Instagram, you see a million podcast clips, right? It's like a man with a microphone talking to a camera.

All the time. That's my whole feed.

So apparently, 90 90% of those clips- And a woman. Yeah, of course. And a woman. Apparently, 90% of those clips are not from real podcast. It's called podcast farming, and it's a way of generating content because podcast clips perform really well, but they don't want to host whole podcasts. So they just get in the studio and make some clips. I love that. It's like with us, what came first, the podcast or the clips? It's the podcast. But for most people, it's like, what came first? The clips.

Yeah, but there's no podcast to back it up, you're saying?

There's no associated episode.

I love that because I enjoy the clips. I can't remember a time when a clip compelled me to listen to a podcast I had previously never heard of.

And sometimes people's clips are better than their show because it's like a highlight reel.

Yeah. Not us, though.

No, I would say with us, our clips barely scratch the surface of the substance that's being churned out here.

It's true. You can have a taste, but if you want the whole treat, it's the show. I know some people just keep up with us through reels, and they're enjoying their life, too, and I'm happy for them, but they don't even know. They're missing the good stuff. Whereas for other shows, that's the good stuff.

What's it from? She doesn't even know. What's it from?

It's a song.

Yeah, it's like a song in a movie that a band is playing.

Euro trip, something like that.

Is it Scottie doesn't know? I don't think so.

Someone will comment it.

It's bothering me right now. She's Lucy Wyman.

Claudia, I was thinking about Lucy Wyman this morning as I was picking up my sweater. I'm like, Oh, my God, I felt so good. Olivia. Oh, really?

She's Lucy Wyman now. I feel like Satchel would know if I asked her.

No, I feel like Ben would know. She doesn't even know. I feel like it's a boy thing.

Now, maybe Olivia?

Why don't you voice the whole family? And whoever comes back first will win a prize.

What's the prize?

Our Love. With Love.

Megan. With Love, Megan. Guys, what movie is this from? She doesn't even know.

Okay, sent. Thank you. I think that's good. You can also ask ChatGPT.

Do you think Chat would know?

We should start asking.

You can also talk to Chat like voice memo, I think. Feel free to ask me about anything. Hi, I'm trying to remember what movie this line is from. Wait, am I talking? Yes, I can hear you just fine. If you want to tell me the line, go ahead, and I'll do my best to help you figure out which movie it's from. She doesn't even know. I think it's a part of a song or something from a movie. Let me know. Thanks. That line is pretty iconic. It's from the movie, Mean Girls. There's a whole scene where they do that song at the talent show, and one of the lines is exactly that. She doesn't even go here.

No, she's wrong.

You got it wrong. You got it wrong and you're stupid.

Go back to school.

I thought for sure they were going to have gotten it. That'd be so crazy.

Oh my God. I can't believe they were wrong. Chat has been slipping.

I know. I actually read something that Chat's data, what they're working with, it's only from 2012. And then I asked Chat because we were on Long Island and I wanted to go to a container store. I'm like, Can you give me a container store between here and my house? That's on the way. I don't want to get out of the way. And they gave me a store that closed six years ago. So I actually feel like that person who told me that, and they say that the most up to date AI is grock. They use data from 2024.

Ask Grok.

I actually wouldn't even know how to use Grok.

Where'd you go? Do you have to tweet at it?

Is it an app? Because that's so embarrassing. If you have to tweet all your AI.

Go for your morning toast account at Grok.

No, I I don't.

I'll just wait for Margot and Olivia to answer. I feel like does grock answer every tweet that's directed at him? I feel like only the most popular ones get answered. Don't you feel?

I actually don't even know what grock is, if I'm being honest. I know it's AI that Twitter makes, but it's an account or it's a service that you pay for. It's a separate app.

It's just ChatGPT, but it's integrated with X because it's made by Elon. You can just tweet at Crock your questions. But then it's all public. It's my chat history. No, but people use it to flex. Of course. Someone says something wrong. They're like, at Grok, what's the backstory here?

I will never give up on Chat because if you ask Chat what the most popular pop culture podcast is, Chat does say us.

Really? Let me Yeah.

What do you think? I'm lying.

I don't know. I just feel like some days they might say us, some days they might not.

And some days I correct Chat because I'm like, they called us the Morning Toast because they're using old data. I said, Chat, that's wrong. Okay.

What's the most popular pop culture podcast? Fingers crossed.

I think they also threw the New York Times one in there, the pop... They have one called... It's supposed to be two men.

Okay. They They gave me five. I've never heard of one of them, and we're not there.

Okay, then obviously, Chad doesn't know you. Chad knows me. Maybe Chad knows that he's talking to me.

Do you want me to pull the current Top Rank pop culture podcast for this week? Yeah. No. What else?

I want you to pull a piece of duty out of your butt. Oh, no. Maybe Chad be slipping.

I'm telling you Chad be slipping. You're useless.

Were we in there?

They They just sent me links to Apple charts. I'm sorry.

This is insane. Yeah, I could do that myself. I could do that myself.

These will show you the current number one pop culture. But pop culture isn't a category, so maybe that's why Chad is struggling.

I don't know. What is the most popular pop culture podcast out there?

But pop culture isn't a category. That's a miss. I guess that would be society and culture. Pop culture. Should we move categories? No.

Why would they put New Heights? That's not What's a sports podcast. Claudia. New Heights and Call Her Daddy. Okay, I take it back. Everything good I said about chat.

They fell in their head.

Literally.

Toaster-racier. Toaster-racier. Maybe they have caught up.

Okay.

Now, let's get in to the fast five stories you need to know because this is the number one pop culture podcast no matter what Chad decides to tell you today. Maybe they know we took the summer off. We'd be slipping. Maybe we'd be slipping.

So true.

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Oh, did you do the...

I did, but I... Oh, I missed it. I changed things, so I know I threw you off.

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You're welcome.

Our first story Sorry, as we teased, Olivia Jade, reunited with Jacob Alorti in Toronto days after, quote, unquote, Date Night with Glenn Powell, and weeks after, it was reported that they split. She supported Jacob at the TIFF, Toronto International Film Festival, premiere of his new horror film, Frankenstein, where she attempted to go incognito per a video captured by people. He posed solo for photographers on the red carpet before meeting her and ushering up the stairs to the Princess of Wales Theater.

Yeah, so obsessed. I loved these two together. We're back. We're so back. We're so back. They actually, I feel, had broken up once before. They were first spotted together and dated briefly. Then they were broken up. I think everybody thought they were broken up, but then they just had been together this whole time. This is what they I do. I'm not worried. That's my girl. He's so lucky to be in her orbit. I hope he treats her like the queen that she is. I know that they broke up because she was over him because she thought it was boring.

Or she was like, I want to be engaged. If it doesn't happen, you're getting to that point. That's interesting.

But I feel like she doesn't.

I feel like she's calling the shots here. I love that for her. This could either be close to the end, breaking up, or sometimes a breakup makes you stronger because it's You're getting serious because also you have to break up with someone because they didn't do the things that you want. But if you get back together, it means that they did them. So maybe she's concealing a ring or whatever she wants.

Maybe. Although I don't find, just as an Olivia Jade fan, and I watch her YouTube, I don't find that that's what she wants. Although I don't know.

Yeah, well, she's 25. It's young. Yeah, it's young, but she might be thinking about it soon.

It's young, but if she were to get engaged, you'd be in a perfectly normal time.

Yeah, I think I got I'm engaged at 25, married at 26.

Normal?

Yeah, I felt like that when I was doing it, it felt a little late. Oh, did it? But now in hindsight, I don't know if times have changed so much in the last few years, but in hindsight, I'm like, Oh, that's super young.

It's also cultural, how you grew up, obviously, coming from a modern, Orthodox community. Yeah. 25 can feel a little late. Not all of us can get engaged at 21. Yeah. I I hear you.

Yeah. Again, I really just see her akin to Sophia Richie, who locked it down. Big time. I feel like that's what she might want. She comes from a loving, stable relationship. Yeah. This is the time in your life when you start to think about those things. So I feel like this breakup has made them more serious in my fan fiction in my head.

She looked angelic in that white gown, truly an angel waiting for him at the end of the red carpet. She almost got away with people not knowing she was there. There was one sneaky little video that they caught.

And then he helped her with her train.

Yeah, as he should. I love when... It's obviously his big night, him and his silly little movie, right? But it's all about Olivia.

Frankenstein. Yeah.

Even though he gives such Frankenstein energy, if you would have asked me, we're making... I didn't even know they were making a new Frankenstein. But if you would have said, We're making a modern Frankenstein, who would you cast? Obviously him. He's so big.

We cast him in everything, too. That's It's super true. Don't forget about Wuthering Heights.

I haven't. Actually, I meant to tell you I watched the trailer, and I thought you did a great job of describing it. It was extremely erotic.

Erotic? Yeah, but in a tactile- In a tactile way. Yeah, and with a lot of innuendo, No? Yeah. Not a lot of actual skin.

Then I saw a theory on TikTok that I'm now taking as my own. I agree with this girl. She figured it out because the poster says Wuthering Heights in quotation marks. If you watch a trailer, it actually looks like they're in two different time periods. Yes, they're both old timey periods, but one looks to be the 1800s and one appears to be the 1900s or whatever. With the quotation mark, somebody thinks that somebody in the 1900s is reading the book and inserting herself in it. Because Margot, I don't know. Actually, I'm not doing a good job of explaining the girl's take.

I saw someone set out to do a take of why it was in quotes, and I scrolled on right by.

Well, people are trying to figure out why is it in quotes?

I don't know. It could have just been a rights thing in order to get the movie. The title might be copyrighted or something.

Maybe. That's not a thing.

Or maybe in old... Because the poster is old-timey. It also looks like vampire-y.

It does. It looks Frankenstein.

It does. It's not really like, I don't know.

Romantic.

It's giving Wuthering Heights, bloodsuckers.

Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought maybe it's an old style of doing movie posters is to have it in quotes.

Something just really surface level, not that deep.

Not so deep. I guess we'll find out.

Yeah, we will find out. I hope that that movie is big for him so that he can afford the ring that she deserves and the life that she deserves. I think I will go and see it just to support her.

Jacob Alerte is going to have to work hard because Olivia Jade grew up low-key very well. She also is successful in her own right. I think when she wants something nice, she just gets it for herself. His little Frankenstein independent films at the Toronto Film Festival, it's not going to work. We're going to need a big budget production. Get back to work on euphoria.

Maybe she was there celebrating saying, Sweetie, this is your last independent film.

Yes. Love the indie life for you, but it's not going to cut it. We're going back to Hollywood. Right. We're going back to the studio.

Yeah. Blockbuster season, babe.

Yeah. I know this is going to sound crazy because he's so famous, but what really has Jacob Alorty done? Besides, Euphoria is huge, right? But it's a TV show and it's never coming back. Of course, there was the Kissing Booth. But why is Jacob Alorty Why is he the leading actor? What is he in? Well, it was- He was in that Elvis movie that nobody saw.

Priscilla.

Yeah.

It was really kissing. It was like, you can't understand how huge that was.

Nobody watched it more times than me.

I love that movie. That catapulted him to be a heartthrob, a teenage heartthrob in a time where there was a dearth. Then Noah Centenario was another one, but he then took himself out of the game. He didn't take it so seriously. Jacob is trying. I guess Euphoria is really big, though. I don't watch it, but it was just like he was the heartthrob star we needed at a time when we didn't have one.

It's Salt burn. Salt burn was huge.

Salt burn.

Salt burn was huge. Yeah. The Kissing Booth. That's what comes up first on his IMDb. Then euphoria.

He needs to start talking to Tom Cruise and getting in some real movies.

I always just feel like we're talking about him getting cast and stuff and all the hype, but it's the pre-production.

It's like, Where's the film? Well, that's why Wuthering Heights is a big deal. We talked about the casting. Because it's coming out. We got the trailer. It's coming out. I think Margot Robbie doesn't miss.

I just want to say, I know you guys don't know you guys or anything. I'm crazy. I just don't feel like he's that successful.

No, I don't. But I think he could have a I feel like future.

I feel like we've just been saying that for quite some time, and it's like, The future is now.

Yeah, I agree.

That's just my hot take of the day. Olivia Jade is more successful than him, sorry.

Well, it depends how you quantify success. Correct. Are you ready for our next story?

Mm-hmm.

A little more cold play couple news, because the husband of the woman who was caught on camera is speaking out amid his divorce from her a few months after the video that shocked the world. Kristin Kabbit, who's the woman in the video with the CEO of Astronomer. News of her filing for divorce from her husband recently made headlines weeks after she was caught on a so-called kiss cam with her then boss, I guess he was. But a spokesperson for Andrew, her ex-husband, told People magazine that they were privately and amicably separated several weeks before the Coldplay concert. Their decision to divorce was already underway prior to that evening. Now that the divorce filing is public, Andrew hopes this provides respectful closure to speculation and allows his family to the privacy they've always valued. No further public comment will be made.

When I heard this, I was like, Okay, so that makes her participation in this less bad, but still bad because the other guy was married.

Yeah, because she's with a married man.

Correct. However, I could also see a world in which, even though she cheated on her husband, the fallout from this public scandal was so bad and so hard on her, even though he's the injured party here. He is saying this to Just so people lay off to help her because it's the mother of your children, and you were married to her for a while. So, yeah, she ruined your life. But what happened to her in return was so much worse than any punishment he could... And he ends up winning. So I could feel like maybe he's lying.

Let me flip it on his head for one second. Say what he's saying is true. They were separated. She's single. He might have even been dating, say. That happens. And this all happened, and everyone's coming down on her and agreed, I'm not going to take away from the fact that she chose to be with a married man, even if she's single. But in that moment when the whole world was against her and he could have cleared her name and been like, No, we're not. We're separated. We're getting divorced. He didn't. Now when the dust has settled, because the divorce papers are out, we now know that they were getting divorced. Now he's coming forward when it's too little, too late. Not saying I'm right or you're wrong, but it could have gone that way, too.

It could have, although I don't know that her falling into this relationship with a married man, making a mess of her life is his fucking problem, honestly.

No, not at all, because the choice to take your newfound singleness and break up someone else's family is a bad choice. But she was being accused of two crimes, one that she actually hadn't committed, and the person who could have exonerated her. Yeah, and he could have cleared it.

But I am of the mind, it's seriously not his problem.

Well, yes.

You got yourself into this mess. I'm not your husband anymore. You can get yourself out. Yeah.

No, I agree with that. But to then say something now- You lie with dogs, you get fleets. But it's like, to say something now is useless. I'd rather almost him not because he looks like he's coming- Interesting. He thinks he's like, if this is the case, by the way, in this scenario, he thinks he's like, Oh, coming to clear her name. It's like, If you wanted to help, the time was a few months ago. We've all done. Right.

Because I never forgot about these people big time.

Yeah, now he's doing his little interview.

Right. Having his moment in the sun.

Making it about Andrew.

Right. It does beg the question, I guess they still hid from the camera because he was married and because they were coworkers. There was multiple levels to why they would hide. I guess her being technically separated makes her a little bit better. But sorry, she still is a lot...

She's still sleeping with a married man, which is bad. If you're single, married, divorced, separated, don't do it.

It begs the question, okay, maybe she was divorced or separated at the moment of the video, but they looked very intimate. They had been together for a while. Maybe the affair stemmed her divorce.

Perhaps. But he's saying here that it didn't, that it's all above board.

He didn't say outright, just saying. I'm just... I should just say.

Yeah, no. I feel like he's coming in the night in China armor. Too little, too late.

It's just a little too late.

Because the damage is done from this.

Yeah. Although it wasn't his mess to clean up, so I stand with Andrew.

No. I do feel like the man, as he should, Andy Byron got the- Yeah, I don't even think she lost her job.

He had to step down, but she didn't- He got most of the heat.

I do think it's because the way it went down, he was clearly cheating on his wife who had no idea. She took him out of it. She changed her name. We're seeing that on his end like, Oh, my God. On her end, always people were like, Oh, they're separated. Quiet. Yeah, it's not. He took the brunt.

It's crazy that he has a spokesperson because he has just regular people.

I think I remember when it all went down, they were saying her husband came from a very wealthy family in Boston. Mm-hmm. Movietime.

Yeah. Who's going to make it- Who are we casting? Gwyneth is obviously the lady.

Gwyneth is obviously- And then the connection to Coldplay.

Oh, well, she maybe is a little too close to it because remember, Ashawnemer hired her.

Yeah. Let me look at her. Who could it be?

Him is giving like... Who was the guy from the founder? Is that Michael Fassbender?

No. Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton. Yeah.

Totally. He's the CEO.

That's really good.

Laura Lane, the mom from Nanny Diaries.

So cute. So cute. I should. Such a good movie. But they'll have to wait to see how it plays out, though. They never do. Yeah, of course. They never do. They make these movies so premature. Too quick. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Speaking of the movies.

The talkies?

Speaking of someone we've been talking about this week, which is now putting more things into context. Glenn Powell is on the cover of GQ. So Glenn Powell is making news this week. He's decided he wants to be in the press. Be famous, yeah. He has a movie coming out. I think that also might be why he was out and about with the Giannuli girlies. He's on the cover of GQ looking extremely weird. Did you see the picture? Because he's wearing- With the big legs. He's wearing leggings that are fake big legs. Yeah. Then inside the magazine, he's wearing more fake muscle stuff.

He's promoting Chad Power, is that correct?

Is he?

Which I think is this Hulu thing where he's playing a big Southern man. I think it's a play on that, I think.

Got it. Because I was reading some of this article, and it's all about how his brand of masculinity fits into Hollywood. I guess for a little while in his early days, there wasn't really a place for Glenn in the industry. What a handsome, striking, funny man.

What is Glenn's brand of masculinity?

You know what? He actually cited some good references because he said when he was starting out, it was very much like the twilight era. People were looking for Robert Padinson, like moody, broody, brooding type of male leads. That's not him. He said he felt very encouraged when Chris Pratt had success in guardians of the Galaxy because it's this macho funny guy. That really is what Glenn is. He's a combination of brawn and chuckle. I didn't realize that sometimes nobody wants that.

Sure. Trends change. You have to think Gen Z, what their type is. They look very skinny, intellectual leads. We grew up big, buff, all-American man.

They Tim Leigh Chalame, Barry Keoghan.

Right.

Kind of like- Rat boy, they call it.

Yes. In another world, someone could say ugly. I wouldn't, but somebody could.

No, Timothée's not ugly. He's beautiful. I thought you were going to say- He's beautiful That was a good word. I thought you were going to say girly. Oh, yeah.

Abyssal feminine, yeah. But just not how I grew up like the most conventionally handsome.

Jeremy Allen?

Yeah. From certain angles, a little ugly.

Yeah, and/or girly.

Yes. They love a girly man, these young girls.

Yeah. I think for Glenn Self, he was like, Where do I fit into this equation? Then he really trends change, and he found his niche within Hollywood, which, again, must have been hard for an incredibly attractive, tall, funny, charming guy. It's always them that are left behind. Yeah, check it out, GQ.

I will.

Yeah, that's two goofy GQ covers in a row because the last one was Travis Gelsy. I was thinking the same thing. What is this?

It was unique creative direction.

It's giving, remember Mad?

Of course.

It's giving Mad. It's like, parody.

Well, I think GQ is a publication for men. I think men, these days, as a gender, there's no uniformity. I don't think they know what's going on with men. I think this is reflective I love that.

Do you know what I mean? I also think, I guess if it's a magazine for men, about men, they don't want to see sexy men pictures. It's not for women.

But magazines inherently are girly. A magazine for men? It's just weird.

Yeah.

You know? Yeah.

Okay. Go off, Glenn. Are you ready for our next story?

Four?

Four. Yeah. Really nice story, actually, because Scarlett Johansson is casting real Holocaust survivors for her movie, Eleanor the Great. Scarlett Johansson has made her directorial debut at the TIFF, Toronto International Film Festival. It's called Eleanor the Great, and it is about a Holocaust survivor played by...

Mark Shonrather.

Girl, you don't know June Squibb?

You're lying. June Squibb is in a... Starring in a film?

June Squibb is starring in a film directed by Scarlett Johansson that features Holocaust survivors.

June Squibb plays a survivor?

So, yes, she will be playing the titular character of a Holocaust survivor who becomes friendly with a college student. That's the premise of the film. Then other Holocaust survivors were cast to round out the cast. That's really sweet. Really sweet. She talks about how she went about finding people who might want to participate, getting in with the community. She I said, at the time, there was 250,000 survivors living. Of course, every year, it's much less. We were able to identify that it's a community and it was really helpful. They also reach out to the Shoah Foundation to find survivors interested in acting.

Okay. One thing about Scarlett Johansson, I just fucking love that bitch. She's such a queen. She's there when it counts. I trust her. She's there when it counts. There are a lot of shoes in Hollywood, some of them disappointing, some of them great. Scarlett's just... She's a good one.

She's there when it It counts. And I love her. She's not always the loudest and every single time, but when it counts, she does the right thing.

And it doesn't hurt that she's so beautiful. That's just a bonus. And so with these Holocaust stories, I find more and more Hollywood to be disappointing in telling the stories of our people. So I actually trust Scarlett. I love that she's in the directorial seat, and I hope the film is an immense success.

Yeah, and June Squibb, your girl.

Well, this just has the toast written all over it.

Yeah, it really does.

You don't know June Squibb?

I didn't, and now I do. And now I'll know her even more.

And do you find that ever since I enlightened you and showed you June Squibb, that she just pops up everywhere?

I noticed her more. It's definitely like the June Squibb effect.

It's June's world.

Yeah.

And we're just living in it.

It's true. I want to get to our fifth and final story, and I think you're ready, and I think you're going to be really excited about this news on a lot of fronts. It's jam-packed.

I I don't think I'm ready, though.

No, but I think you're ready.

I think you're just getting excited and you're losing sight of the readiness.

Okay, fine.

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Which is so layered. Desperate Housewives stars Andrea Bowen, who plays Julie Meyer, and her husband, Josh Juckerman, who is also from Desperate Housewives. Eddie. Eddie, the serial killer. The murderer. Who tried to kill her.

Who tried to kill Lynette.

Oh, and her, yeah. Yeah, he was her stalker. Are expecting their first baby together.

Okay, so I recently, when I did my rewatch, I found out that they were married. They got married very recently. Susan Meyer was in attendance, Terry Hatcher. And now they're expecting a baby. And it's full circle because when he tried to kill Lynette, she was nine months pregnant. She actually gave birth while being held hostage. This is when the show got a little nuts. She was actually giving birth in the living room of the abandoned house where he killed his mom. She went over to check on him, didn't know he was a serial killer. Then he was like, I'm the serial killer. I was going to flee to Florida, but now I have to hold you hostage because you know that I'm the killer. And all the stress put her into early labor, and he ends up delivering the baby before the police arrived.

Life imitates art. When I saw the two Desperate Houselives actors were married, I had to Google him because I didn't recognize him because he looks very handsome and normal in this picture.

And then I saw- He's not a resident of Osteria Lane. He actually lives a few blocks over in a bad neighborhood. And he's not a title character. No, no, no. He's at first, a friend of Lynette's kid.

Then I saw he's Eddie. I'm like, Well, who's Eddie? And He has different hair. He's so different. He plays the villain. He was crazy-looking. He plays a serial killer, and now they are happily married. More than that, this article includes the fact that she has started a New Desperate Housewives rewatch podcast with Terry Hatcher.

It seems like everybody on the cast fucking hates Terry Hatcher, except for the girl who played her daughter, which is a point in Terry's column.

I'm sure that the relationship that Terry had with the other women competing, it was very different than the relationship she had with the young actress who played her daughter. They probably had just a different relationship than you would have with a colleague who you're in competition with.

Although, if I'm Julie Meyer and I'm starting a rewatch podcast, obviously, I want to have on as many cast mates as I can. I'm not choosing Terry Hatcher as my co- It's definitely a barrier? Yeah. Marsha Cross isn't going on. Eva Longoria is not going on. I don't think Felicity Huffman is doing a lot of podcast interviews since leaving prison, but she's certainly not doing it now that Terry Hatcher is the co-host. I feel as though the podcast has an expiration date because they're not going to get many people to agree to come on.

No, but then it won't be about co-host. Maybe they're taking a page out of the toast book. You and I, we've got this. Every episode will be cargy. We don't need anyone. They have plenty of episodes of Desperate Housewives to talk about.

I'm telling you, Mark Cherry is not going on.

Maybe Josh made friends on set that he's going to bring in.

Who's Josh?

Zuckerman. Her husband, Eddie.

Oh, he's a Jew?

Oh, yeah. I guess he's a Jew.

And she's not Bowen, I wouldn't say. But that's cool. It's cool. Interfaith, marriage. You love to see The article doesn't include anything about their religions. Is he wearing a Yamaka?

I don't see wedding photos. I'm just seeing Sonogram.

That's really cute.

Yeah. I don't know where the wedding photos are.

It's always crazy when people from a TV show It's more so crazy when they were romantically linked on the show, like Emily Van Campen from Revenge. Her and that guy are still married. He's so hot. I'm like, 4 feet tall.

It's crazy that he held her hostage.

He didn't, actually. He tried to her while she was taking out the trash.

Oh, Julie? Yeah. Oh, well, it's just- He held Lynette hostage. Got it. No, but then gave birth to her daughter.

Lynette.

Not Julie?

No. Julie You're thinking, Julie. Actually, Julie and Lynette were both held hostage in the grocery store. Remember when that woman, she holds up the grocery store with a gun because her husband owns a grocery store, and she finds out he's having an affair.

Damn.

You know who gets killed? You guys might not remember. Nora, Tom Scabo's ex-girlfriend who never told Tom that she got pregnant. Tom finds out they have this eight-year-old daughter, Kayla, and she's this nightmare bitch to Lynette. Kayla. Kayla Scabo. Yeah.

And remember that TikTok?

And her mom, Nora, really wants to get back with Tom.

Remember that TikTok?

Of course. I send it to you, right?

Yeah. I have some creator who ran into Tom Scabo.

The actor who plays Tom Scabo, and he just started filming, he was like, You are the worst ever. And the actor who plays Tom Scabo, he knows that, but he obviously feels this deep connection to Tom. So he's like, Oh, come on. No, he's not. And he really is. There's so many... I actually cannot go on my Tom Scalvo rant.

No, you can't. Let's bring it back to the happy couple.

No, I just want to say, I'm not going to go on my Tom Scalvo rant, but the Pizza Shop.

The Rewatch podcast. I look forward to hearing Terry's take on it. I don't. Maybe she'll have some tea. Maybe they'll be making headlines.

Felicity Huffman doesn't do press, so we never hear from her. We hear a lot from Eva Longoria because she's always promoting something. She's going on watch Shopping Live, and Andy's always like, Is it going to go back? I just know, aside from the Terry Hatcher drama, they had the best time on that show.

Yeah, it was a moment in time. It was lightning in a bottle.

It was. Eva Longoria said, Literally best job ever.

However, everything that has happened since, they've just ruined the show. Of course.

Of course.

Marsha Crosby's social media footprint has ruined the show. She's so crazy. She's so crazy. Has ruined the show.

Don't bring it back.

Just appreciate it for what it was at the time that we had it.

It was literally a movie, and I don't mean that in a movie sense.

I understand.

Okay, are you ready for Dear Toaster? I'm going to start with the one that I teased, okay? Wait, I have to find it. Okay. I bolded it. Where did it go? Sometimes when I bold things, I accidentally delete it. Hold on. Classic. That's okay. Oh, found it. Okay. All right. Welcome to Dear Toaster, our weekly advice segment. This week, it's going to be bi weekly. Actually, no, bi weekly means every other week. But you know what I mean? Yeah, don't scare anybody. Twice a week. Bi weekly should mean twice a week. I just want to say that.

It does make sense. Do you agree?

Yeah. What's the word for bi weekly? For twice a week?

Yeah. Twice a week.

Sucks. It's not a word, it's a phrase. Our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I try to help tosters in need. If you are ever going through something with a friend, a romantic partner, a health issue, we literally There's no quandry we won't take. Email us, deartoosters@email. Com, or just head over to our website, thetoastpodcast. Com. There's a little submission box when you scroll down, it says, Dear Toaster. Both of them are totally anonymous. Okay, this one directly involves us. We are the injured party.

Oh, I'm mad.

Hey, Jackson Turdy. I have a meta issue. A girl I work with at work is constantly telling stories, sharing takes with our coworkers. That is just literally verbatim what you say on the podcast. She says it like it's an original thought, though, or a personal experience to her. I've mentioned that I also listened to The Toast thinking she would say something like, I heard this on a Gargi podcast when sharing an anecdote, but no, she just shares stories that you girls tell like it's her own. Do I call her out? People think she's so hilarious and has the best takes, but it's so It's freaky to me that she acts like these things are coming from her brain. I hope she hears this, dear toosters, Sincerely a Corporate Toaster.

Oco-taco. But you're saying we're hilarious enough to have the best takes?

I know. On the one hand, I'm mad because I want everyone to know, No, this was my joke, my story. I took my pants off of physical therapy. But on the other hand, the fact that we're empowering young women to just stand out at work.

I don't feel injured by this. I want people to take something from this show and let it enrich their lives. I feel bad for the girl who knows that this girl is- She knows too much. She knows too much, she knows that this girl is lying. This is obviously a little bit of a fraudster because you could also say things, and there's a way to caveat, I heard an interesting story. Say, I It's hard on the toast or whatever, and you'll still get the points for having known it, but you are just being more honest. I'm just frustrated for this girl because that must be really annoying to know that this girl is getting undue credit. But you could also do the same She could do the same thing.

She's Lucy Wyman now.

Yeah, she's Lucy Wyman now. You could do the same thing, but I don't know.

Obviously, the girl who's stealing from us is fucking crazy. So at least you have a leg up on everybody else because everybody's like, Oh, Sarah from Accounting is so funny and cool, and you know she's actually a sociopath. So that's cool for you. Just let it go. I think people really look too much, and this might be a hot take. People look too much into their work relationships. Even the best girl you know from work, she's still your coworker. Just leave this at the office. Go home and talk to your real friends about it.

Yeah, or you could call her out and be like, Oh, that happened to call her? Yeah, I heard that, too. But you also might wind up looking small and everyone was enjoying the moment and you just ruined it.

I see this happen, not to make everything about myself, but when he farted.

Is he okay?

Oh, my God. Is he okay?

I think he's okay. Wake him up. Wake him up. He's an active sleeper.

Jackie, his eyes are rolling behind his head. They're lying.

Wake him up. I swear. Bruno? How does he look?

He's fine.

He's fine, okay.

Oh my gosh. But Jackie, he was like this. He's an active sleeper.

That was really funny. That was a lot. I feel like if I didn't address it, people would be like, What? Is Bruno alive? He was having a bad dream, my baby.

Maybe He was dreaming of being pulled away from his Auntie.

It's true.

Now, not to make this to your toaster, it's about myself, but I do see this happen a lot on TikTok when there's a big pop culture thing and somebody will make a TikTok, it's like a take, and it's literally exactly what we said on the toast. Then I go and I see that they follow us in the toast. On the one hand, I'm grateful for the support, but on the other, it's like, You just stole my joke or my take.

That's different because they're stealing our share of voice, which is the internet. You want to steal the water-cooler, you could have it. Fine by me. We're here to serve. I want to bring value to your life. We do this show so you can have interesting takes if you want to take them to the cocktail party.

We told the girl to do this. Now, saying a story that happened to me, that happened to you, that's another level of crazy. But you know what? I don't give a fuck. As long as you're subscribing.

Totally. That's all I care about. If you're maybe using all of them, just also be a Patreon.

Yeah, you do have to pay to steal. Stop the steal, by the way. You do have to pay. Honestly, if this girl is not a Patreon member, then I have an issue.

Let us know if she's a Patreon member. She probably is to get more stories because that's also where we share the personal stories.

You are paying for that privilege.

Yeah, I agree.

What you're not going to find me doing is caring. Okay. Hi, Swirlies. Love you, girls. Let's get to it. My boyfriend and I are both 23. We've been together for over a year. I recently got dinner with some friends, and they're in relationships, too, and they talked about how they often send nudes to their partners to spice up their love lives. I've never sent one to my boyfriend because we see each other 2-3 times a week and call me crazy, but I feel like he sees it in person enough. I don't really need a digital footprint like that. But am I approved? What's your opinion on nudes? Is it more common for people to send them than I think? This also got me thinking, do you guys think guys ever delete the nudes that they've received in the past? Do they all just have nudes like a Hall of Fame? Would love to hear your take on this.

I guess we never shared our stance on nudes.

Well, I think in order to have a stance, you have to have sent them, and I haven't.

Well, that would be your stance that you've never sent a nude, which I wonder what percentage of people nowadays, of young people, have never sent a nude.

To answer your question, she said, Is it more common than I think? I think pretty much everyone does. Send nudes. Yeah. My take on it is that I can see a world in which you regret sending a nude, but I don't see a world in which you regret not sending one. For me, that's how I've made the decision to not do it.

Yeah, it's not something that I've ever strongly considered or felt compelled to do. To do. I I don't want to break the internet when I share this, but I've never sent a nude, which is probably really shocking. But I understand people who do, I don't think men delete them. Why would they? They don't. Why would they delete them?

It's just unfair because men and women both send it, but mostly guys just send it off their penis, and it's not attached to you, right? But girls, we're artists. We are art.

We're proud of our bodies, especially boobs.

They're close to your face. So it's usually a recognizable photo, which It makes it linked to you forever. I think it's a bigger deal. So if you're on the fence about it, I say no.

If you're on the fence about it, I say no as well. If something is holding you back from doing it, just listen to your gut. But if you're doing it, great, everybody does it. That's how young people communicate nowadays. Yeah, men say them. I'm going to go further.

Maybe it's just because I'm a mom, but I'm going to say something. I don't judge anybody who sends nudes, but a guy who's asking you for a nude, he doesn't love you. Yeah. That might be one of my hotter takes.

What if it's your husband? Maybe he's off.

Well, you could tell your husband to fuck all the way off. That's a good He's thinking about being married.

Maybe you have love and you have trust, and he's off working on an oil rig, and he needs a little something from his lady love.

Even with somebody who's totally trustworthy and totally safe, phones are not. People get hacked all the time. On a small scale, it's about the trust of the person, but it's also the trust of the technology, which I don't have a lot in. Phones are not. Yeah. I don't really ever see a good reason. I'm sorry. I don't. I don't think that we should be sending them.

I am in agreement That's how I live my life. Yeah, I think... What if he's in the military?

Well, thank you for your service, and we can have sex when you get home.

But it's months at a time, and he's missing his darling.

Okay, well, they didn't have cell phones in Vietnam. But they sent a mail.

Who knows what was in there?

Yeah, a little sexy Polaroid.

But it was definitely a cute picture of your face. Everyone would have a picture of their sweetheart.

Yeah. They weren't nudes, but they would send a picture of the little cleavage, and it would be crazy. They would hide it in their bunker.

Yeah. We need to turn back the clock on that. We've gotten too far.

No, our holes are all over the internet now.

It's crazy. Yeah. I do think men keep them because seriously, why would they delete them? They have three nudes.

By the way, here's a good example. This is such a random example. But Raquel, Tom, and Ariana, right? No, sorry. Raquel and Tom were exchanging photos. They trusted one another. Tom, those photos got leaked. She ended up suing Ariana, and it wasn't because of Tom. Now, obviously, she was having a relationship with a man in a relationship. But even in a situation where the photos get out, not through the fault of the person you sent them to.

Yeah, plus not to mention hacking, not phone transfers, sharing a cloud with your family.

It's just a nightmare. The fact that this girl is on the fence about it, I say, Absolutely not. But to the girls listening who maybe do send it, I would recommend actually not. Honestly, sorry. Not to be a grandma over here. She's taking her in the sense. Yeah, I do. I don't really see the purpose in it. Most of the time, it's not with the great love of your life. It's with a guy who you like, and he just wants to see your boobs.

Yeah, and I would hope with the great love of your life, like barring the oil rig or the military, you guys are together all the time, and here you go.

Right. It's nice. Maybe he's on a work trip. Okay, so a little tension never hurt no one. A little anticipation. All right, our third and final is hilarious. Hello, swirleys. I'm thinking about buying a cameo to tell my close friends and family members that I'm getting a divorce. We're not parting on bad terms or anything. It just needs to happen. I want to bring some light to the situation. Who should I use to tell my parents that I'm getting divorced? Now, there's so many great people on cameo, and I do think a real housewife delivers all types of news in a partalicious way. But might I suggest the great Nikki Bonsky?

Oh, that is good. I also think, I don't know what your goals are in life, but you have an opportunity. Not that this would have catapulted you into anything long-lasting, but I could see this going viral. Viral. So who do you want to take viral with you? Obviously, Who do you want to bring up? Countess Luanne comes to mind.

Right. Smoky Robinson.

Chinuca. Happy Chinuca.

But Nikki Blonsky is the face of cameo, and I feel like she needs this. Although I don't know if your parents would know who she is. I feel like parents do keep up a little bit with some of the Real Housewives.

Brandi Glanville.

Yeah, hers are a little all over the place. You also want somebody direct- To get the message across. Because you don't want them to be confused. Sometimes people wax on on these cameos for minutes and you have no idea what they're talking about. Yeah. Theresa does a good one. She reads exactly what you ask her to.

Yeah.

Lots of good options.

Yeah.

Maybe it's the time of year where we go check who's on cameo.

Who are the number ones right now? Or you should do... Who was just on cameo that we wanted to support? Maybe you could do Jalen from Love Island.

I don't think that they would know. And by the way, call me old. I don't know any of the people who are in the top 10 on cameo.

Hold on. I'm on my way.

The Naked Cowboy, you can book.

That's not my vibe. Cameo.

I don't know these people.

Lisa Rinna. Kevin O'Leary.

Oh, you mean Kendra? What's her name? Lecarin.

Kevin O'Leary.

Yeah. He would give some great advice on the business of Divorce?

Yeah, he would. I feel like he might not like what he has to say.

Which is what?

I don't know. I feel like he might make you second guess, your choice. Jacks Taylor.

I put him in the bucket of one of the people who is rambling on, and he won't ever get to the point.

I love this for you, though.

I'm sorry you're getting divorced, but I think you have a great approach to it. I've always said that if you're divorcing without kids, because that's sad, obviously. But if you're just you made a mistake and you're divorcing and you have an ex-husband, and people are really deeply ashamed of that, we need to totally get rid of the stigma of having an ex-husband. I think it's incredibly chic, especially if it's a situation without kids.

Because that would be the family being torn apart. It's really no big deal.

But sometimes people, you realize you married the wrong person and it just happens and it's fine. But then you have this chip on your shoulder that you have an ex-husband at 27. It's really not a big deal.

I think you should have Manteo do it.

Obviously, you're getting a great product, but you're also sending them money to a great place.

A great cause.

Well, yeah, he's a person, not a charity.

No, the cause of uplifting Manteo after what the world got him. Yeah. Correct. Raising his star.

Thank you to everybody who wrote into Deer Toaster. The amazing news is you can tune back in tomorrow for another dose of Deer Toaster, and this one's going to be all about toxic mother-in-law's. That's the tease. We'll see you then. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast on Monday Morning Show, where we deliver the fast-time stories. I need to know everybody on Friday on YouTube. If you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us a video of thumbs up. We're also available on this podcast. We're a podcast. We're a podcast. We're a podcast. Spotify, Twitter, public radio. I'm ready to cast folks. I love this. We have this podcast. That's what I'm saying. We're really talented. We are.

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Leave a fucking comment, okay?

Do it. As long as it's nice. Oh, sorry. Not about my toes or whatever.

Or my weight.

You saw them talking about my toes?

No. My toes. Not about my toes.. My toes. And cut.