Transcript of Dancing FOR The Randos: Thursday, October 9th, 2025

Good morning, girlies. It's The Toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.

It's your favorite show, the fast-fired things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, It's The Toast.

They sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast. Oh my God, I went to LA, forgot how to speak. Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Thursday. It's a different feeling type of Thursday because I love LA, as the great Chaus as Sunset once said. That's right, turdywood. Turdy takes Hollywood starts today.

I like Turdiewood.

Yeah, me too. I couldn't figure out exactly how to word it, but we're working on it.

Okay, well, welcome to Turdiewood. Claudia is live from LA, which is so exciting for me because I love the elk of an angelian, and I really do hope that you get into the spirit of things. I I think you'll reach untapped potential as an LA creator and podcaster. Look at you in the Dear Media studios. Do you feel different already? Do you feel like talking about wellness and a job in your love? No.

Well, I job my love pretty much every day, so you really don't need to worry about that being a coastal thing. I job my love, and I love my job.

I do know.

Do you feel like you job your love more than you love your job, or you love your job more than you job your love?

These are some big questions. Now we're getting to the big questions, but how does it feel to be in the Dear Media headquarters? We're not really in office swirleys. We're the remote workers with our own studio. I know. So what's it like over there?

I was saying to Daniel here who's literally in this room with me. I was saying, I don't usually do this with people, especially people I'm just meeting. I never do this. I do feel, I'm not going to lie, extremely awkward. Because of Daniel. Because of Daniel. If I'm being weird today, it's Daniel's fault. There's just somebody right here. How could I talk about my period?

Daniel's here. Unfortunately, she can't talk about her period.

The good news is, you guys, I don't have my period. You would know that because I shared the last time I did.

Just to circle back on that period and put a dot at the end of the sentence, how was the whole period? Overall, how was the experience?

Oh, my God. My first period after being pregnant was insane. Was that from My first period? It's from Friends. Chapter one, my first period. Title. Satis, write it down. I'm glad you asked because, yes, I did just have my first period after being pregnant, and it was a blood bath. Jackie, but let me tell you, it lasted one day.

Oh, no. Daniel.

What would Daniel think? It was a 24. It was a 24. I just want to know, Daniel's enjoying immensely. He's like, literally, he's giggling so hard.

Oh, I love that.

I could tell Daniel has swirly energy. I'm actually really not worried. I don't feel weird at all.

I'm sure Daniel has seen and heard everything because really- It's true. Deer Media has so many fabulous podcasts, so many different topics, genres. It's true. Women's Health. They're really a strong voice for women. He's heard it all.

It's true. Yeah, it's true. Having said that, it was a 24-hour blood bath, and that 24 hours happened to fall on Yom Kippur. It was I wore a white school.

Maybe that's why you fainted. You lost too much blood.

Oh, my God. I needed a blood transfusion. Yeah. I wore a white skirt to synagogue on the day that I was literally fighting for my life, menstrually.

I didn't get the all-white memo for Yom Kippur. I don't know how I missed it, but I went to- There is no memo. Everyone at Chul was wearing white. No, and in hindsight, yeah, that is the color for a tone.

Purity, right.

Thankfully, I had a white cardigan, but I felt so So improperly dressed.

So I want to tell you guys about my journey to Los Angeles. It was my first flight with Ruby, and of course, my king was amazing. I seriously have no complaints. I actually could not have asked for him to be better. But it was not without his drama.

Of course, you doubted him. No. Thinking like, Oh, can Ruby do this? Can Ruby do that?

I didn't doubt him, but let me tell you, I was prepared. I brought a cooler of milk, 20 ounces of milk, which we used, by the way. I had my two... I had my tits out the whole flight. Seriously, I did not care. Tits out for the boys.

For the boys, the one.

Just It was one, yeah. It was a little bit of excitement on the plane because Andy Cohen was on my flight. So actually me and Ben were in the lounge, and he walked by. I recognized him immediately. Let me tell you, he has a mop of hair. I've never seen someone have so much hair. It's just thick. That was the first thing I noticed. And Ben, of course, had to center himself, and he was like, Wait, I should tell him that I'm the guy, the Spritz guy, like Craig's business partner.

It's a pretty decent connection, considering you can't go up to him and tell him about the toast because if he wanted I'm not going to search his name- No.

If he ever heard.

Yeah, no, not good.

Ben is really not shy. I was like, You know what? I actually do think Andy would find that interesting, right? Although I don't know if Andy's reputation is like, he's overly gracious to fans and stuff. I don't think he likes being approached. But I said, You know what, Ben, do it. Ben's such an affable guy. I think Andy would appreciate this fun fact about who you are. I saw Ben go over to Andy in the lounge. I heard the conversation. I don't really think Andy... But Ben was so sweet, and he was like, it was fine.

Color me shocked.

But then we got on the plane. I had a feeling Andy was on my flight. He was also going to LA. And then, yes, lo and behold, he was sitting right in front of Ben. And I have read all of Andy's books, and so he's always traveling, and he's always talking about how on his planes, he watches all these episodes of Housewives upcoming, gives notes to the editors. I'm like, there's literally no way he does that. Like, watches every episode and takes notes on what needs to be edited out, what he likes, what he doesn't like. Let me tell you, I walked past his computer five times. He was watching new episodes. Well, I don't know if they were new, but they looked like they had a bit aird yet, of Osi and Salt Lake City, and he was also jotting down notes. I was being such a little rat, like snooting. But let me tell you, he was actually doing it.

Wow. Walking the walk, talking to talk, while not talking to his hands. Exactly.

And then when we all got up to de-plane, and I was right behind him with Ruby in the stroller, he was like, Wow, your baby was so good. I was so proud. I was like, Yeah. He was like, he literally make a peep. Wow, he's such a good baby. Kind of made a lot of comments about it. I was like, Yeah, that's my baby.

Who would have thought between you and your pop culture podcast and Ben and his Bravo connection, Andy was only interested in Foo?

Listen, we are parents. Andy's a parent, too. He gets it.

He is.

Now, that's not the story, actually, I wanted to tell you because I've had my first Los Angeles- Experience. Experience. Because this trip to LA is fueled by the good guys, I'm going to phrase it in a what are you nuts, okay? Okay. Because I had a what are you nuts moment this morning. We don't have a car yet. Ben is actually going to pick it up right now, so I just Uber to the studio. Okay. There's a bunch of different options on Uber, and they have different ones in different cities. In New York, you can get Uber X, Uber Black, and Uber premium. That's really it. But other places, they have Uber comfort. There was an option for me to work today. Uber woman driver.

Click.

No. I actually a lot of people relying on me to get to work safely because I don't put out this podcast. Millions of Americans are affected. I can't take such a risk with a woman driver. I'm like, This is so California.

That's really crazy.

I know. I can't. To be clear, if I get a woman... Uberwoman. It was literally called Uberwoman. If I get a female driver in an Uber, I'm not thrilled, but I don't cancel. It's fine. It's fine. It's literally not a big deal. Would I go seek it out?

Probably Probably not. But there might be the case to be made. I don't know if they're doing it for women's empowerment or closing the pay gap or for safety because in other ways, yes, maybe on the road, you're perhaps not as safe with a female driver, but in the car, you might be.

Yeah, I guess if I was traveling at night alone and they had that option, I actually might click it. I take it back.

That might be what it's there for.

Yeah.

No, you're right. Not just a performative thing to platform women and break the glass ceiling.

And kill people. Okay, by the way, you've actually changed my perspective on it. That's actually a really valid reason. If I had a kid taking an Uber, I'd be like, Yeah, do the woman. You'll get here tomorrow, but it's fine.

She's going to read you to Phil. She's going to be so nasty.

I'm an Angelino. I have so much to do today, getting my digs ready. I got to pick up I got to find my local spots. But all in all, Turdywood is off to a good start.

I'm really happy and excited for you, and I love this change of scenery, this change of turt. I actually did something major yesterday. I talked about a few months ago how I was a judge. I was selected as a judge of a short story contest that was hosted by the Novelry. It was the biggest contest in literature with the biggest prize money, $100,000 for the winner. All summer, people submitted their short stories. They got records, crazy amount of submissions, and they shared the top ones with the judges, and the judges panel met yesterday.

Jack is a judge on this really elite thing with other huge celebrities as judges.

Huge celebrities and authors. Just a who's who of the book world.

Literally you. I heard the author of the Camper of the counselor was on that panel.

Right. I was happy to be there amongst colleagues. We met and deliberated yesterday and chose a winner. I think that will be announced soon, which is really exciting, and everyone can read the story. It was fascinating stuff.

Are you going to say who else was on the Zoom? Are you allowed?

Yeah. The judges panel, that was public information when everything was announced. First, the whole panel was shared by Tayari Jones, who wrote American Marriage, an American marriage, massively popular. Julia Quinn was on the panel. Bridgerton. Yahn Martell, Life of Pie. That's a bit- Carly Fortune.

Oh, man. Did she say anything about Megan Markel?

She didn't say anything about Megan Markel, actually.

What have I happened to that story? I know this happens a lot with books where things get an option, but I thought like Megan Markel doing that was a good idea.

It's probably still in ideation.

She bought the rights to Carly Fortune, the big one. What was the- Summer on the Lake. They're all called- Lakehouse Summer. Lakey Summer.

Lakey, Lakey. Who else was there? Emma Roberts. Emma Roberts, major in the book world. A couple of bookfluencers like myself.

A couple of influential voices in the literary space like yourself.

Yeah, it was really cool. I'm really excited for people to read the winning submission.

Go, Jackie. Go, Jackie. Go. Go, Jackie. Go, Jackie. Go.

That's what I was up to yesterday, just judging a literary contest.

Just being judgmental. W-b-u. W-b-u. What about W-B-U? W-b-u. Oh, yeah. I was taking my son on a plane.

I mean, who goes Hollywood? There's nothing better.

I I did feel so spoiled. I had so much access to Brian. I really feel like I hacked, like travel hack the whole thing. Shout out to American Airlines for being extremely baby friendly. It's just so funny how people... I guess it could go either way, but my experience was people, when you have a baby, are just so nice to you. They let you in. I guess some people aren't, but for the most part, except, of course, it wasn't without its drama. When we got through TSA, they had to test my breast milk. Stop it. Seriously, they opened up my cooler and I'm like, Are you going to touch it? She was like, No, we just have to put this paper. And she's dripping. It was so stupid. So then we had to resettle, put our shoes back on, and we go to the lounge, and I'm in the elevator to the lounge. I'm like, Ben, do you have my purse? He was like, No. It's like, I was pushing Ruby, You take everything else.

It's giving tummy furie.

I ran. If you saw me sprinting for my fucking life in JFK Airport Terminal A yesterday, no, you didn't. What first was it? I ran. A big Chanel one. It literally said, Rob me Chanel. And my wallet sticking right out at the top. It was filled to the brim, and my wallet was right at the top. Also Chanel. Seriously, I deserve what comes to me. I'm such an idiot. Let me say, the good people of JFK Airport, it was untouched. It had probably been a total of four or five minutes. It was left there alone on a bench. Oh, that's good. In a point of pride, in a big...

But that area is highly secure, actually, for other reasons, not because of your purse. They have a lot of cameras. If your bag did go missing, you could probably track it down.

Yeah, and the airport is the self-contained thing. You can't rob me and leave.

Yeah. Well, you could, I guess. And then miss your flight came in to rob. All for what?

A Chanel bag that could be fake? It's not, but you don't know that. Yeah.

I hope people have better things to do and want to get to where they're going.

How are the stories today?

Good. Lots to just little bits and bobs to update.

Bits and bobs?

Bits and bobs. Like nothing groundbreaking. Actually, there is groundbreaking news, which is that it looks like peace in the Middle East is on the horizon.

You know what? That is news that breaks ground.

I would call that groundbreaking, and that did happen yesterday.

I know. I do feel like over the course of the war, there's been a couple of iterations of things. I will be celebrating when it happens. I'm just a little skeptical only because I have trauma.

Agreed. This seems to be the big one.

I know. They say all hostages- With all hostages.

They say all 48 are coming home. Well, not all because some of the bodies that they kidnapped, they probably can't find. But living hostages, they're estimating around 20 living hostages, will be returned home this weekend or by Monday. So that's amazing news.

Yeah, it really is. I'm just so holding my breath. I don't even want to talk about it until it's real.

But so It's just funny that I said there was no ground-breaking news when actually there was major news.

Yeah, news that broke ground.

Yeah, in a major way. So praying. Cautiously optimistic.

Yeah. Anything else before we dive in? I don't have my clock today. I'm not in my usual situation. I don't know, are we dallying? Are we dillying?

I feel like we are doing an appropriate amount of dillying and dallying, especially considering this foundation on which the toast is built has shifted a bit. Different place, different time. For me, I'm podcasting at noon. I feel like taking a nap.

Oh, my God. Let me just say I know half the people who listen are like, Bitch, this episode is never coming out. I've never podcasted so early in my life, you guys. I'm fighting for my life over here.

Oh, my God. I've never I'm podcasting so late. It's not ideal. I'm like, Time to take my makeup off.

Yeah, that's just the one issue with Turdewood Week. I don't even know how long it's going to be. I don't even have a return flight. That's the one issue is that I'm podcasting so early, and the episodes are coming out so late.

Yeah. I had the time to make a beautiful breakfast this morning. Tomorrow, I'm actually going on an adventure before the toast. I don't know if that's going to help. I have had a whole day.

You're coming on an adventure?

Yeah.

Where to?

I'll tell you about it tomorrow after I've had an adventure, and then I'll be able to share, and then maybe that would be great.

Right. It would be good for the podcast to live before.

To live before, perhaps. Maybe. We'll see. Just switching it up.

Okay. Sorry, Ben is going to kill me. I have someone to share with you guys.

Well, maybe as punishment for the purse.

Yes. As you guys know, Spritz Society is nominated yet again for USA Best Can Cock. We have now won it, I think, three years in a row. It's annoying because now we have to win every year because it's like, what we're in our flop era. We've won it three years in a row. I'm sorry, you guys have to vote. Voting ends Monday, the 13th at midnight. You can vote at least once, no, most once a day. The link to vote is in the Instagram bio of the Spritz Society, Instagram @spritz. It's also in the description of today's episode. Please just help us keep our reputation. I would be embarrassed at You don't have to win everything you're nominated for, but my God, three years in a row, we have a lot to lose now. I almost wish we never won.

It's a lot of pressure.

It is.

That's why we choose not to win awards here at The Toast. Exactly.

It's too stressful.

It's just better this way. But please vote for us. It's vote for El.

Vote for El.

Without further do, do, do, do. It is time for the Fast Five stories that you need to know.

Oh, shit. Sorry. Not me getting distracted on my phone. I'm so LA. Okay. I'm so fucked right now. Just start. I don't even have my clock up. So just start over.

She's just like an Angeline. She's living up to the stereotype- Of being a slob. Of working hard.

Okay, start again. Say it again.

Okay, without further ado, do, do, do, do. Here are the Fast Five stories that you need to know.

The Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Smart Mouth. I forgot to tell you guys this story. Ben has been taking these herbs because he takes these herbs when he thinks he's getting sick. They're called like guy herbs. And I literally turned him in bed not two nights ago, and I said, Do you have B. O. Or is that your breath? I could not tell where the steak was coming from. It was his breath. As you guys know, I am an advocate against bad breath, and that's why SmartMath has made me their leading partner because they know I'm so committed to the cause. So if you're a coffee drinker, a garlic lover, or just someone who never wants to think twice about their breath, SmartMath has you covered. It gives you fresh breath confidence for a night out or on a date, and peace of mind knowing you'll never wake up with morning breath again. Oh my God. Seriously, the mission behind this brand is something I believe in so fiercely. I'm obviously so concerned about my own breath always. If anybody ever said, Oh, that girl Claudia, she has bad breath.

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I'm taking the dog.

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I hate when I miss a turtumer.

I did something crazy while you were reading that ad. Tell me if you can tell. Crack? Crazier.

Okay, wait, hold You did something crazy. Let me put the eye back.

Yeah, focus. Look at me.

Yeah, your hair was up before, right? You put on lipstick? You take your bra off? No. What did you do? Wait, I'm done.

I took off my mic flag. Why? It's digging into my belly, and I'm always adjusting it.

That's the one thing you could have said.

I don't know if you guys have noticed, I'm always moving the microphone, but I have to take it away from me. Then it's too far. I'm taking off because the corners are digging into my belly.

Okay, that's such a fair reason. However, I'm at the Dear Media Studio, so neither of us are. This is a nameless- How is anybody going to know what show this is if you take your mic flag off? I'll just have to hold the iPad up the whole time.

Wait, you know what I'll do? I'll do this. Love. It's a nameless faceless podcast.

Okay.

I needed to do it for my health, and I hope that you understand, and I know that you do.

I do. I do understand, and I know that you needed to do it for your health. However, I just can't help but take It's very personal because you know how much a Mcflad is. I know.

That's why I came clean. I didn't want you to have to find out on your own and feel like I betrayed you because people would like, saw me do it, and they would have commented.

Jackie, if you never said anything, I would not have noticed.

But people would have been like, Why did Jackie take off her Mcflad? And then I would have felt like I was keeping something from you.

Jackie took off her Mcflad because she's a self-hating toaster.

Exactly. I hate our branding. Our success. I can't even say that with a straight face. We're so cute.

Nobody cuter.

Our first story, Laird Swift making more news with her talk show appearances. Last night, she was on Late Night with Seth Meyers, recounting tales from the Eres tour.

By the way, best she's looked in years.

Yes, she looks partialish. And also, I feel like- She looks parcelish. Parcelish. And she has a new fauch.

Yeah, let's talk about Taylor Swift's new face, and I feel like everyone's talking about it.

It's crazy that for the last five days, she's really gotten away under the radar. Her first appearance on Graham Norton. I know people said stuff, but I just thought maybe she looked different one time. But it's very clear that she's had work done, and that's also why she was hiding at the NFL games. It wasn't about the stalker.

You and I obviously operate on two completely different corners of the internet because where I'm lurking, everyone's talking about her new face.

I've seen a couple of things, but it's not overwhelming what I've seen. I feel like everyone's being really kind, and I actually feel like an asshole bringing it up, but it's very clear.

No, it's so obvious. And love that for her. I'm saying this all in an overwhelmingly positive way because her face looks sick. She It looks so good.

I do think it was the Apple Music interview that really spotlighted it.

Yes, the Zane Lo. I think she thought she could get away because she's on Zoom, and it's not the best lighting, and it's not a perfect camera. It's a computer. She looked more different than ever. I don't know why she would schedule this doctor's appointment so close to the release because it's so obvious. And by the way, you were on the fucking money about her lipstick, trying to throw us off. We can't be deterred.

No, we can't be deterred. I feel like people... Ram Norton, for me, Sometimes you could look a little different, and that was okay with me. I wasn't- Especially you're traveling cross-continental.

You get a little puffy. You look different when you travel.

But as the face continues to settle, I'm like, Oh, it is a new one.

And let me tell you, when we get to the final resting place of the face, which I do not believe we've gotten there yet because she literally looks different every day, I feel like it's going to be so good because she looked gorgeous on the Zane Lo one. Obviously, I don't know what was done. I don't think it was a full-blown facelift, but they are snatching it back.

I've seen people say, Blef, upper Blef.

Blef, yes. That's what Shannon did, the upper Blef.

Foxye.

Yeah, but Foxye was a trendy plastic surgery trend that I feel like it's not popular right now.

It's definitely in the eyes and the cheeks.

Do you think she went to Steve Levine?

I don't think so because she didn't need a facelift, and she didn't get a facelift. And did she do this after the engagement, after New Heights, or before? It's giving me after.

It was after. That's what I'm saying. The timing is just poorly planned. Taylor has said famously in her documentary, her whole life is planned two years in advance. She can't even think about personal milestones. She already knows that in two years, she's going to be on tour or writing an album. For them to have miscalculated the doctor's appointment, it's just like, so not Taylor.

She's slipping. She was off from Eres till August. She was just low-key making showers out.

She has had so much time.

Yeah.

And also speaking of Taylor, not to jump, but we need to talk about Kelly Teller. Liz Wood pointed something out so sinister that's going on. I think a lot of people now, all the Swift's can agree, they're definitely not friends. They're definitely some people who are still in denial. But when we first started saying it, people were like, No, they weren't just busy. No fucking way. There is so something going on between these two. Somebody just unearthed Liz Wood. She posted on her Instagram that an Instagram post from Kelly Teller from before the album came out. It has this long caption. I think it's about her anniversary with Miles or something. There are two to-low us lyrics in there, dancing through the lightning strike.

And knock on wood, which knock on wood is a common phrase. I could give the benefit of the doubt, dancing through the lightning strike. That's crazy. And by that time, the friendship was already in question. Because I could see a world where she did that and they were still friends. And it's like, Wait, you're spoiling my album.

Kelly posted nothing about the album, nothing about Taylor's engagement. They were so buddy-buddy. Probably, and I was obsessed, but a really fast burning friendship. And you went from that to not even posting about the album?

Number one in the rest of your Golden Globes date at every game.

Golden Globes.

Golden Globes date.

Yeah.

Golden Globes date.

What are you saying? Gold Globes date?

Golden Globes 8.

Golden Globes 8, yeah.

Golden Globes.

I mean, it was golden Globes.

Golden I'd post, unless we weren't dating anymore, I'd post about your album and your engagement.

I know. The lyrics are actually really... That's very to me.

Then she launched a clothing line on Tiloas today.

Day 10: 3.

Also not something that you do with a friend, if that's your best friend.

If you have two launches, I need to know what happened between those two.

Not like I can't shop and listen at the same time.

I actually can.

I actually prefer.

But that's a pop culture thing. I'm sure we'll never find out what happened, but that is something I would really love to know.

Yeah. No, it's definitely becoming more and more clear that the friendship is over.

Yeah. And anybody saying no is in denial. They both have full lives. Okay.

They had full lives during Golden Ghost.

Right.

They had full lives.

Travis and...

Oh, sorry. I was going to get to the point of the story, which was some of the anecdotes that Taylor was sharing on lately. Oh, right. Let's not just talk about her looks Yes, Claudia.

Sorry, she looked so sick. That corset snatching up that waist. Like, oh, my God, she looked insane. She just looked like a gazelle. So tall and lean and feminine and just sick. She looked so gorgeous. I'm sorry, I'm a toxic woman. I thought she looked pretty.

Sorry. Yeah, no, but we were also talking about her facelift. She shared some funny stories about the Erris tour about Travis, one that I really enjoyed about Greta Gerwig, or not Greta Gerwig, to Greta or not to Greta.

Netta Nerwig.

Greta Furwig.

I'm just loving this era of Taylor sharing. Even just little things, the fact that Travis would go to a show and then their post-show ritual was them keking and gossiping about what went down in the VIP tent. Just those little nuggets are so important to me as a woman. There used to be a time when she was with that miserable wench where everything was private. They couldn't even take a picture together. Now we've just flipped. So the opposite. There's a weekly podcast coming out every week from Travis and also his sister-in-law, where they just talk about her like, Thank you. I'm a Taylor Swift fan, but I'm also a nosy little bitch. I'm so much happier now than I was back then.

Yeah. Do you want to talk about Kylie's podcast?

I do. I listened to the clip.

And how it made you feel. I'm sorry.

Nobody can convince me. Kylie Kelsi doesn't fucking hate Taylor Swift. I'm sorry. The way she talks about Taylor, it's just never, for me, seems genuine. Even when she had to talk about the new album, she I talked about it couched in her girls, which I get. I'm sure the girls love Taylor. But she was like, And speaking of the girls, let's talk about the life of a showgirl. Okay. I don't know. I'm sorry. One thing about me, I'm not buying it.

No, every time she talks about Taylor, I'm like, I just wish you didn't because I wasn't even wondering what does Kylie think of life of a show we're on. Me neither. I'm sure there are people who would be like, Why wouldn't she talk about it? But at this point, I just feel like the way that Kylie is, it's like if she did never I talked about Taylor, I would just respect that that's just because she doesn't want to talk about her. The mystery would make me feel like they're actually good. They're closer. But then when she goes and talks about her, it's just like, it's never enough.

No, and it just never feels...

Like warm and fuzzy. Yeah.

But I think also we don't know Kylie because we don't listen to her podcast. And do you think that's very much her Philly personality, this hard ass. And that's how she talks to her husband, whatever. So maybe we're just like, Don't get her. But all I'm saying is every time I hear a clip, I'm like, She fucking hates this bitch.

Yeah. And I'm like, She shouldn't have said anything because then I wouldn't have heard a clip.

Exactly. And I didn't need... The not talking about Travis and Taylor's engagement was weird because it's about Travis, right? And Travis is her family. Yeah. Taylor's album, I didn't need a recap on. When I think of Taylor's new album, I'm not like... There wasn't a song about Kylie on it. There's not a lyrics about Kylie. I don't actually need Kylie's take, so I wasn't looking for that in an episode.

Yeah, and she did engage with what people have been saying about the song Wishlist is literally like Kylie's life, which is so cute, but it didn't come off as cute.

It's funny. When I heard Wishlist, I didn't think of that. That's Kylie's life.

But she has a whole block looking like you.

Yeah. Actually, they look more like her, but yeah.

Yeah.

There you go. Her name was turdy, made her money being purdy and wordy. Somebody DM that to me yesterday, and I'm obsessed. I might actually make it my new Instagram bio.

Oh, that's cute.

Yeah. Do you think the Lyric is famous enough yet?

No.

In a year, will people know what I'm referencing in my- What's your bio right now?

What are we letting go of?

The Life of a turd Girl. No, I'm kidding. It is... Oh, it's got to go.

What is it?

The name's turdy. Turdy Lou. Okay. Okay, James Bond. Why is nobody talking about how loser in my Instagram bio is? I need more people to be making fun of me for that. Should we change it right now?

Yeah, sure.

To that or anything. You're good with words.

I mean, my Instagram bio couldn't be stupider.

Why? The CEO of Turdilou Global? I love it.

Ceo of Turdilou Global. When people email me, cold email me, they're like, Hi, Jacquelyn, we love what you're doing at Turdilou Global.

Well, when AI He scrapes the internet for information about you, if you ever ask chat, what is Jackie Ostrée's job? They would say, Founder CEO of Turdilou Global. Her name was Churny, made her money bein... I'm going to do it. See how it feels. Being purdy and wordy.

His name was Bruno, made his money being Cruno and Luno.

Okay. Her name was Jackie. Made her money being wacky and…

Tacky. I love it. That's not good.

Wait, but that's funny. You're obviously not tacky.

I know.

Let me see how it looks.

It's just not a nice word.

I just want to say I fucking hate this. I'll fix it later.

Didn't she say that in actually romantic? They called her Taki or something.

Oh, yeah. Stop talking dirty to me.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, next story. You think I'm Taki, baby. I don't even know before we finish this story.

Oh, yeah. She told all these stories on Seth Meyers.

I watched one story, and I enjoyed the one, but I didn't want to hear about the Burmese Python.

But She's just a great storyteller. Seth Myers was there.

Seth Myers was there. She was telling stories. I liked the Greta Gerwig story. I sat through it and I enjoyed it, but I didn't listen to her for their stories.

I also find it surprising that she's not going on Jimmy Kimmel just to make a statement. It's almost like a glaring omission. I was thinking that, too. It's almost like a glaring omission.

I was thinking that, too, because she's- No, her choice to go on Fallon is actually safe.

They're such good friends. They have that connection. His mother love that song.

No, that wasn't the red flag against Kimmel, but now you're making it around.

But now she's doing Also, this tier 2 shows.

I do think, in general, it's a good decision for her to not go on Kimmel because- It's polarizing. It is in this moment. He has less viewers now than he did before everything happened. I just I think she would want no part of it. This is meant to be about the album.

And then it would become about that.

I think that she's wise to just stay away from it because it's not like she has to do it or anything like that. No.

But I just found it interesting.

But I think she should do Jake Shane.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah. I wonder what else she's going to do.

She's doing a lot.

Yeah, she did Apple Music.

I know. While I understand people love Zane Lo, can you raise your hand if you've ever watched a Zane Lo interview? Not like a clip of Taylor on it. Do you tune in to Zane Lo? And by the way, it begs the question, who the fuck is Zane Lo? Why do we care?

He's a music expert. So am I.

And I'm sorry, the music expert of this generation is Jake Shane. Jake Shane is the new Zane Lo. Sorry.

Yeah. And also Zoom? No. Zoom. It's 2025. No.

It's given COVID.

No. That's just upsetting I see something like that. I don't like it, even though I guess this show is on Zoom.

Actually, I'm sorry. No, we don't use Zoom.

We don't use Zoom, and the show is Pargie.

Is the Zoom in the room with us? No, we literally don't use Zoom. It's the worst product ever.

It's the worst interface. Yeah.

I have PTSD.

I agree. I'm going to make the call. I don't know if we finish discussing this story, but I'm going to move on to the next story. She's calling it. I'm calling it. I just feel like we'll be back here probably later in the week. Okay. Next story Beckham family puts on a united front at Victoria's Netflix doc premiere without Brooklyn and Nikola. We've been like, countdown to the premiere. We figured Brooklyn and Nikola wouldn't be there, though they were at David's premiere signaling better times. Now we're in worse times because it's Victoria's premiere, and they were not there, though all the kids and their significant others were there to celebrate Victoria's new docuseries on Netflix, which is out now, and I can't wait to watch.

I can't wait to watch it either. The other two kids being there, I'm sorry, it just doesn't do it for me. I don't even know their names. Cruz.

And Beckham. Hold on. Romeo.

Romeo.

Rehomeio. Yeah. You're such an influencer living in LA and rehoming your dog.

Oh, I just want to say my family's made a decision about Romeo. I forgot to tell you this. When we do get back from LA, whenever that is, he will be coming home.

He gets one more chance.

Yeah. Ben went over to his parents house to say goodbye before we left, and he got so emo seeing Romeo. Romeo was being such a good boy. And Ben really loves Romeo. I love Romeo, too, obviously, but not as much as I did before. And Ben was really sad. I said, Of course, he can come home. And now Ruby is sleep-trained. I don't think actually a bark would wake him up. But when Romeo came home and we were trying to put Ruby down for naps, it was so temperamental. And you're fucking barking. Get the fuck out of your bitch. Now we're in a better, more stable place. We have a new home, so it's fine. He'll come home. So Romeo's coming home. He's coming home.

I love that. And Romeo Beckham went home to his family at the premiere of Victoria's Hackey Series. It was Romeo, Cruz, and Harper, the daughter who's 14, who's just so cute. You know she's not caught up in the drama.

No, I am looking forward to her coming-of-age story and seeing her do Fashion Week stuff and becoming an Apple Martin type of swirly because that's totally in her future. Having said that, these kids don't do it for me. I'm sure they're lovely people, but I need Brooklyn there. I need Nicola there, and I'm sure they want Nicola and Brooklyn there, too. I know we always say, Well, maybe she could... No, you're not there.

There's such bad vibes. They had a Vow renewal, and they weren't there. We knew it was done, but this was going to be one more critical thing, just like Taylor's Bachelorette will prove if she's friends with Blake and Kelly. One more critical moment that is the nail in the coffin.

It's really bad. It's such a cliché. Why? Come on, be better.

Yeah. It's upsetting.

But I'm excited- But I'm looking forward to the documentary.

Yeah, me too. I think I'll watch that tonight. Oh, I watched Love is Blind last night. Three new episodes dropped. I'll do a mini recap at The End, one, because Claudia didn't watch it, and I want to talk about it with you. Two, they weren't the most buss in episodes, except the In Denver mixer did happen. Love that. The Denver mixer where all the cast offs came to play. That was, I guess, the most interesting piece of it. But we are getting to see the couples either maturing or not. Some of them, I actually think, have more potential than I did last week when I was like, You should break up today.

Okay. Do you think there's any chance that Victoria's documentary references the issue in her family, or they're not like that?

I think if it did, it actually would be in the stories today because I think editors who already- Would write it up. I saw headlines about talking about eating disorders at a Wintour. I think it would be in the So no. Our next story, an update from- What number? Number three.

Okay.

An update for something we were talking about yesterday, which was dancing with the stars, Dedication Night. Oh, yeah. Danielle Fishel- By the way, we just misunderstood with Dedication Night. Oh, yeah, for sure. It doesn't mean that you're like, dancing with a rando. You are still dancing with the star.

You're dancing for the rando. Tidal. I'm crying. I'm crying. I'm Oh, goodness.

Goodness me.

Goodness me. Also, when I thought it was still like dancing with Arando, and it said, Danielle Fishel is dancing with the 98-year-old Mr. Feaney.

Mr. Feaney. I'm like, That's actually really not fair. That's crazy to make him try it, get up and dance and train for a week.

Oh, I just assumed he would be in a wheelchair and she would be dancing around him. And I only assumed that because- Is he in a wheelchair? No, but in the picture of him and her, the most recent one, he's sitting and she's crouched above him. How you do with an older person, just so they don't have to get up. Just so they don't have to get up. I actually didn't even question how he was going to dance at 99 years old. I just thought for sure they were going to win. But now, well, they might still. Anyway, she is bringing William Daniels, aka Mr. Feeny, to dancing with the Star's Dedication Night, said it's going to be very memorable. We were half right that she would pick someone from Boy Meets World. Apparently, Ben Savage does not associate- Doesn't fuck with Topanga. He doesn't fuck with anyone from Boy Meets World, including Mr..

Feaney, just so you know. He's a self-hating boy. He's a self-hating Disney star.

Yeah. Her and Pasha are going to dance a jive, and Bill is going to be on the ballroom floor with us, and he's going to participate in the dance as well.

Okay, so it's dancing for the Randos. With the Randos.

And with.

For and by. Yeah.

They're dancing to the Boy Meets World theme song, the one you all know and love.

Wait, which one? The original?

The original. Not the Sabrina Carpenter.

The Sabrina Carpenter one is so good. I've been waiting for a day like this to come. That's like lightning. That song is so fucking good.

I'm going to play it. I'm going to play it. So Ben.

Can I say something?

I don't know it.

I've never heard this song before in my life.

Yeah, no.

I was a big Disney kid, but there are particular blind spots. I don't know if you've seen, actually. And I watched Wizards of Waverly Place. But I guess yesterday marked a day. Technically, Alex Ruso's character dies In the last episode, they say she's going to die on October or whatever, 2025. And that was yesterday. And everybody was like, Alex Ruso is dead. Who gives a fuck? There are Disney channel blind spots for me. And Boy Meets World is low-key one of them. I had watched episodes, and I remember that one where that friend, Sean, who was hot, he becomes a bad boy and is addicted to Advil or something. But the show is not really a part of my childhood.

No, it's very much ahead of our time, by years.

But Ben loved it. Ben turned to me when we were watching Dancing with the Stars, and he's like, Topanga was the love of my life. I said, What? Now, I'm looking like Topanga.

No, Topanga looks like my friend Sam.

No. Do you know who Topanga looks like? I said it to Ben. He said it was the best call ever. I'm sorry that the tosters are not going to know who this person is. Dr. Freilish, our pediatrician growing up.

Yeah, but you also just have her on the brain.

Because she's a pediatrician. She's Ruby's pediatrician, too.

Because you're seeing her.

No, no, no, no, no, Topanga.

No, to me, she's Sam Frankl.

It's a good call, too. Yeah. But Sam Frankl is Marybeth Holland.

Yes, I do. After you said that, I did start to see it. Anyways, Topanga is bringing out Mr. Feaney. We know who some other people are bringing out. Elaine's bringing out Chessie. Dylan is bringing out the younger Efron's sister, not Zack.

I don't believe you. Not Zack. Okay. Thus, fueling my theory, Zack Efron hates his brother Dylan.

He's just like such a But not a team player. Zack? Yeah. I actually think he loves Dylan and would do anything for him except show up to dancing with the stars. He didn't do the high school musical reunion on Zoom during COVID, which at the time really hurt. But today feels like a good choice.

In hindsight, it was the right call.

It definitely feels like a good choice. He's just always off yodding with his friends and doesn't want to do the things that the people would love.

I feel like Zack Efron was more than happy to include Dylan and be there for Dylan Dylan was a nobody. He had his brother on his show, Zac Efron at the End of the world. Now Dylan is a formidable opponent, and I think Zack's jealous, honestly.

I really don't think that's it. I just think he's a party pooper.

Yeah.

It's annoying. Enjoying me because he's one of my faves.

I agree. In hindsight, he shouldn't have done that high school musical reunion. No. That was a bunch of yellowbelly losers.

But at the time, it's like, Zack, where are you? You're Troy Bolton.

No one's doing anything else. It's COVID.

Be Troy Bolton. Be him. Try.

Right now I can hardly breathe. Oh, you can do it. Just know that I believe. Those Movies. Actually, don't even get me started. Those movies are so fucking good. It's crazy that people thought The Revenant was a good movie. Have you seen High School Musical 3?

I'm not getting you started because this episode is already going out late, and we just can't have it go a half hour later.

Oh, it's so true. Okay, Okay, moving on.

Are you ready to our fourth story?

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Our fourth story, Shersha Ronan, will play Linda McCartney. Sersha. I tried. I really did. She will be playing Linda McCartney in the new Beatles movies. We have been talking about these Beatles movies for years now. Four movies, four Beatles. Everyone gets their own movie. Sersha has landed the role of Linda, the wife of Sir Paul McCartney. Mccartney in the upcoming four-part Beatles biopic. As a reminder, Paul Mezcal will be playing Paul McCartney.

Feels like a generous casting.

For Paul Mezcal?

Yeah.

You mean generous to Paul McCartney?

Correct. In a handsome- In a handsome. I would like Megan Fox to play me in the Turdy Lou global biopic. Everybody's talking about these four Beatles movies. When I tell you, I don't give a shit. And one of my hot takes, and I say this every time. I don't give a fuck about the Beatles. Their music, low-key, sucks. I just don't fucking care. So happy for Sersha that she got this role. I feel like Sersha Ronan has been chasing the high. She can get cast in whatever movie she wants. She will never have a better role than her first role, which was the girl who got murdered in the Lovely Bones, literally the saddest movie ever.

Oh, my God. Do you get this on Instagram? Or maybe it's a success. Yes. Clips of movies. I find myself watching five minutes of a movie on my phone. I can't turn it off. I'm so aware of it now. I'm like, This is a complete fucking waste of my time. Stop watching them.

Jackie, I have seen the entire movie, Interstellar, in the form of TikTok clips. I've never actually seen the movie in full, just in TikTok clips. I've also seen every episode of Young Cheldon in TikTok clips.

I also see the Good Doctor a lot.

Oh, I don't get the Good Doctor with the doctor who's autistic.

Yeah, I get a lot of medical cases. Then so someone comes in and it's- House. Yeah, and they have something very rare. I'm Wait, wait. What is it? I'm literally sitting there watching a movie on Instagram.

Chicago Med I watch. Yeah, no, I literally watch TV shows in two-minute clips.

What is it? I need them to stop for the sake of just productivity and mental health. I don't need to be sitting down to watch a movie right now.

Yeah. It's like, do you think with these directors and these screenwriters put together these passion projects of theirs, do they realize most people are going to consume them in 30 second clips on reels?

I don't know. I get a lot of lovely Bones clips, the scene where Mark Wahlberg realizes. Oh, yeah. When he's building the hut.

Or also when the sister is in Stanley Chuchy's house and she opens the floorboard and Stanley Choochee is like, Is there some bitch in my house? She's trying to be really quiet until she drops the floorboard and he hears it from downstairs and comes running after her. I get that scene all the time.

Oh, my God. No. Him in his backyard building a yurt talking to the father of the woman. The yurt. Oh, my God.

Not enough people talk about Stanley Chuchy's acting abilities. I feel like they just know him like, Devil Wears Prada. He's always playing like, Sassy. No. His His Range, you have to see the Lovely Bones. It's the best fucking movie ever.

No, but it's really disturbing.

Yes, it is. The book, I actually never read the book, but Olivia read it when she was a kid, and she was always talking about it, so much to the point where I feel like I read the book, and I also saw the movie. Such a powerful story.

Yeah. After that, Coming off the High of Lovely Bones, Saoiria will be playing Linda McCartney.

Linda McCartney. That's what I'm saying. It feels right. Yeah. I know somebody probably assumes that I do, but I actually don't have any issues with Saoiria Ronan. I like her, even though I think people would think we would be.

Yeah, we're not the elk of Saoiriaites, but- We're not Ronanites. No, she's a talented actress. It's not her fault that the movies she's in aren't my favorite movies of all time. I guess that is her fault.

I don't know what genre she does, but it's the anti- turdy genre. I saw Lady Bird. I wasn't inspired.

Me neither.

I I didn't see her version of Little Women, and I'm genuinely okay with that. I've also never seen Little Women. I've never read Little Women. I know somebody dies and somebody's a lesbian, and I do actually one day want to commit to watching it. I'm trying to avoid spoiling it.

We're reading it because it's about four daughters. Sisters. Yeah.

It's about Melania, Gabriella, Gia. They're the father of Little Women.

No, it's about Brooks, Grace Anne, Mary Howard, and Sarah James.

1,000%.

Yeah. No, I guess it is Sears' fault that she chooses movies that she knows we wouldn't want to watch.

There's actually an episode of Friends where Joey reads Little Women, and he goes through the emotions of it. They actually spoil the book In... He reads it because he thinks it's porn because he reads the lesbian scene. He's like, Oh, I could read this. Then it turns out to be this very sad book. And they spoil it. I know somebody dies. I don't know who. They spoil it. I actually, I blocked it out of my memory because the day will come when I'm going to sit my ass down and read that book. I want to be so surprised.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Yeah. Only because it's no offense, Dear Media, a thousand degrees in here. They've got to get some air. I'm dying. Are you dying? Okay, maybe it's me. I'm running hot. I'm breastfeeding.

Maybe it's me. Werdle Game Show is in the works from Jimmy Fallon and NBC with Savannah Guthrie set to host. Wurtl may soon be coming to TV as NBC is piloting a game show based on the brain puzzle game. Jimmy Fallon is producing the project via his electric hot dog banner, and Savannah Guthrie is said to be the host. The pilot, which is also produced by Universal Television Alternative Studio, is filming in the UK.

Okay, so I have nothing against Savannah Guthrie, per se.

I didn't think I did.

I'm not loving the choice. Having said that, I do think that this is a great idea. I love game shows. I feel good. I feel like I made an investment in Jimmy Fallon a few years ago. I've never been a hater. You, low-key, have, and a lot of people have. I feel like I've always just defended Jimmy Fallon. I feel like he's really crushing it lately. Have you heard anything about his show with Boes?

No, it hasn't come out yet, but when it does come out, I'm going to watch because I saw the trailer and I thought that it looked good.

Yeah, I just feel like he's crushing it lately.

Yeah, I think so, too. I think as one, Jimmy sinks another sales.

Yeah, and I know he publicly said he was team Jimmy Kimmel, but I know he was so happy that shit was going down with Jimmy Kimmel. Like, better than Jimmy than me, he was to his wife.

Yeah. Feeling like he made the right choices to just be the funny man. Spineless. Yeah. Commercial.

Right. One thing about Jimmy Fallon, he sings for his supper. You want me to be a Republican? Cool. You want me to be a Democrat? Cool. You want me to be into 13-year-old teen music? Or neither. Oh, yeah. No, he doesn't give a fuck. He's here to entertain. He's here to make a living. You know what? I respect the hustle.

Yeah. I think as a premise, this show would be good because Wirdle is something that you do quickly, solve quickly. Some people are better at it than others. I think that could be a cute show if for game shows.

Have you seen the game show hosted by Jane Krakowski and Randy Jackson, where they have celebrities on as participants, and they give them a song. They have to guess the song based on the first few notes. Erica Jaina just saw it was on, and she was like, I can guess the song in seven notes. But then the person, I forget who she was playing, was like, I can guess it in six. And whoever goes lower. So Eric was like, I couldn't guess it in five. So she lets the girl guess it in six. Randy Jackson then on the piano plays the first six notes of the song. It's seriously stupid. It looks like one of those shows, one of those fake game shows they made on 30 Rock.

Yeah, or for a movie about someone who produces game shows and then she's going to break out and stop living such a stressful life.

It feels so fake. Every time I see, to be clear, a Lucy clips of it on Instagram. I don't know where this show airs. It feels like, seriously, it's actually not a real. It's a fake show.

Great. I'm glad. I don't know what you're talking about.

To be clear, I have never seen somebody successfully guess the song. You literally can't guess a song with just three notes on a piano.

It's so stupid. Charlie Pooth could.

Charlie Pooth could. He should be the host. By the way, no offense to Randy Jackson. It should be Charlie out there shaking his thing.

Charlie's giving music education lessons on TikTok and reels right now, explaining what it means to interpret a song. And let me just say he ate down with that.

Yeah. I just want to say I feel like there were a couple of months where I talked about Charlie Pooth on the podcast all the time, making fun of him. And I stand by what I said, but I just want to update everybody. I don't hate him so much anymore.

I don't remember why.

Why I started hating on him. I can't remember. I feel like he's a cutie.

He's a talented guy, and he has this gift of music. He has perfect pitch, and he's got the music in him. And now he's giving back to the world by explaining it in layman's terms. I actually really enjoyed his videos explaining Interpolation- On Taylor's album. And comparing songs that I feel like everyone compares the same two songs, right? Everyone's like, Marvin Gay, Ed Sheeran, Hall's the Red, Taylor Swift, Blue. He's giving me Fresh Haley Steinfeld versus Fifth Harmon.

Totally. Not I'm pitting women against women.

I love that for him. He definitely takes Uberwoman.

Charlie Pooh, 1,000% calls Uberwoman. Uberwoman?

I wonder if men have that option to do Uberwoman.

I fucking hope not. Right? That would be creepy as fuck.

I need to know more about Uberwoman and the team leading it.

I hear you're the team leading it.

You just know there's a whole team at Uber whose job it is to lead Uber Woman.

I think it paid $250,000 a year.

Yeah, for this big idea. I would love to talk to the team about what's next. Set it up. About what's next. About what's next for Uber Woman.

I am going to call it because, like you said, the episode has to go up.

The show must go on.

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Do you have some... It sounded like half a sentence. Was there more to say?

No, you started talking, so I was holding space for you.

Okay. Get that see you tomorrow out of here. Are you okay? Nasty. Get that see you tomorrow out of here.

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