Transcript of Meghan Markle, Meghan Sparkle: Friday, October 24th, 2025

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It's The Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.

It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's The Toast.

They sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Friday. Yay. Last day before Jackie's maternity leave. Nay, boo, stay with us. We want you, don't go.

Maybe I'll be back.

Because the thing is, I've got plans. I'm not worried, you guys are going to love the content. My desire to podcast with anyone but you. No offense to everyone. I'm hosting zero.

I know. There's nothing like Jackson Claude original recipe. Today is my last day, and I'm looking forward to taking off. I mean, who Who knows what that will look like even for me? But you never know. I could pop in.

I would love that. I do want everyone to know the next two weeks of maternity leave are not booked.

Because we're in a flux.

Right. The latter half of November and December, we're slaying. We have so many great people. But the next two weeks, I don't know when Jackie's going to give birth. I would like to come down and see you. I might be in Florida. I haven't really booked people in the next two weeks. So it's going to be a lot of friends and family, like Ben Soffer, Margot Osher, Taylor Strecker energy, which is great. But just know I've got the big guns after Jackie. I don't know, not to make your birth about me, but if you could figure it out, that would really help me.

I know. You were yelling at me yesterday to tell you when I'm going to go. And I gave you an educated guess. So let's see if I'm right. Yeah, the best you could do. Let's see if I'm right on my guess. Okay. Yes, but it's really crazy. I guess this happens every time where you just really don't know. There's a five-week span where it really could be any day.

Yeah. I didn't have that experience because I did have a scheduled C-section, which low-key, there's a lot of things about my birth journey that I didn't love, but knowing exactly who, what, when, where, why, how is so underrated, especially for work. I stopped working on Friday. I missed the toast Monday, Tuesday, and I gave birth on Wednesday.

Yeah. In the past, I've slayed both times. And so let's see how this shakes out if I'm here twiddling my thumbs in two weeks, being like, I could have been working.

Yeah.

We'll see.

Well, just know if you wake up and you're like, I want a toast, I will kick off whoever.

Okay.

Because it's going to be Ben.

Yeah. The thing is, I love to toast. The hard thing is the waking up part because sleep is so fitful for me. It takes so long to fall asleep. Stay asleep. By 07: 00 AM, I'm finally feeling lighter and I'm cozy.

Right. You're back into rem at 07: 00 AM. That's exactly what I experience, too. The night is so hard, but by the time it's morning, you're finally falling asleep. Right.

So that's when I want to sleep, and that's when I have to get up to work. That's why it's hard. But sitting here talking my swirly, actually, it has been painful. Also, SPD Visibility, I got a lot of outreach and love from people who have suffered from SPD, and I just really feel so seen that, Okay, you guys know what I'm going through.

Yesterday was SPT Visibility Day. Everyone was talking about it.

Yeah. I feel like a lot of us... Well, not a lot. A handful of us have been suffering. It's funny because when you go to the doctor, you talk to a friend, you're like, I'm pregnant, and I'm in pain. They're like, Well, of course you are. You're pregnant. You're pregnant. It's not that anyone takes you seriously, but yeah, being pregnant is painful and uncomfortable. You have, Oh, you're painting your vagina because you're pregnant. Too bad. Welcome to pregnancy. No. But there's a threshold. I'm glad that all of us who are experiencing it, we see each other. Someone wrote in a comment that they were talking to a midwife who had worked with a woman who had done a bunch of home births, no epidural, no pain. In one of her pregnancies, she had SPD. She said it's more painful than giving birth.

You're in a great spot, it sounds like.

I am.

You've been trading for this moment. You shouldn't even be afraid of birth.

No, but I actually... You know me. I'm always going to get the epidural, but I'm definitely natural.

I was saying to Ben, I'm like, Jackie's so close.

I'm natural birth curious. I'm home birth curious. I'll never go. I'll never do it. But I have so much respect for it. I'm very interested in it. But in this situation, I need an epidural for my SPD.

I actually ended up on a home birth talk, and I'm not home birth curious at all. I just cannot stress that enough. When I think of home birth, I think of it being weird and painful, and unnecessary. But I didn't even think about, and I ended up on a really sad part of it, that there are casualties. Sometimes you need the hospital or whatever. To me, that makes it not even remotely worth it, the risk of not needing a hospital and not being near one. I actually, I'm going to encourage you not to.

No, you don't have to encourage. I'm not having a home birth, but my ears perk up when someone's talking about a home birth?

They need to come out with a fusion of birth where you give birth at a hospital and they let you go home that day because the sleeping in the hospital is so horrible. My friend just gave birth, and I was FaceTimeming her, and she gave birth at the exact hospital that I did. We were talking about She was showing me her room, and I swear I actually had PTSD. I always say the best day of my life was literally not the day where he was born. It was two days later when I got to lay in my bed with Ruby. Right.

But when you do a home birth, just say it. I know. One of the perks.

For sure. Not worth it.

Yeah. No, I understand what you're saying. Anyways, I just need that epidural for my SPD is what I'm saying.

You're so close. We are going to miss you so dearly.

Where am I?

And again, if you want to start doing the evening terst, we'll work around you because like I said, I have stellar A-list talent coming, and I'm so excited.

But it's not the same. Nothing like a little Jackson Claude.

This doesn't feel like going to work. This is just so fun. And yeah, it's going to be work. I'm going to work.

But you know what? You'll be creating conversation. You'll really be like the elk of a podcast, or that's how I felt on your maternity lead. We're creating conversation. We're having dialog.

We're renting studio space.

We're opening minds and hearts.

Yeah.

Which is fun. Purposeful work.

It's so important that we constantly be creating purposeful content.

I mean, it is. We do. Thankfully, we have so much purpose in our pinky fingers. It's not something that we struggle with. But it's hard. I feel like when you don't feel like you have purpose, that could be a hard place to be.

That must be how the good guys feel. We've got a great show today. Jack and I both watched the new episode of The Kardashian's. It's literally the best show ever made. I don't know how long it was. It was 60 minutes of just giggles. I was just enjoying every minute of it. We have Fast Five. We have Queenie and Weenie. So much to look forward to. I also started the new season of Nobody Wants This. I'm just so in my content era. As did I. Got logged out of the Netflix household again last night.

Oh, me too. What episode did you get up to in Nobody Wants This? I think I watched two of them.

I got up to the part where Tova Felshire, who plays the mom, says, And I have scissors.

Did you see that? Yeah, that's the last thing I saw, too.

I was cracking up. Ben was dying.

I love her.

Me, too. That's actually a great casting.

Yeah. I can't get over how much they are the sisters.

I know. Oh, wait, by the way, especially this season, Morgan is so Sara Foster.

She's like that?

It's uncanny.

It's uncanny.

I was noticing it more this season than ever. I feel like last season, I was just so excited about the show. I forgot that they were supposed to be Sarah and Aaron. I was like, It's just loosely, loosely, loosely based. No, it's actually an adaptation, if you will.

It's literally copy and paste. The only difference is are that her husband's not a rabbi. He's just a Jew. Sarah, at least previously, was in a relationship, so she wasn't- And she has kids. Yeah, so she wasn't single talking to Sasha.

Oh, yeah. I What's his... Jona, what's his name?

Sasha in the show.

Oh, Sasha. Yeah, I want him and his wife to work it out.

Yeah, no, they're the right for each other. Even though she's a naggy bitch wife to a T, she's his naggy bitch wife.

I just want to say I understand her most on the show. I feel like I see myself most in her.

Yeah, no, I like her. I know she's not super likable, but she's real.

She's so real. Yeah. I'm just in my content era.

Me, too. I've been watching so much TV as I've put myself on bedrest for the latter half of the day.

I, too, have put myself on bedrest. It's actually so not true. The thing I thought about parenthood before I was a parent, and it actually has been so true, everything I thought I knew, I'm like, I'm not going to use pacifiers. The one thing that I thought before motherhood that is 1,000% true is you do not get into bed until it's time for bed. I used to lay in bed all day. Now, I don't even get under the covers until 8: 00 PM. It's insane.

No, you get out of bed, and then you... That was in your special. You don't get back in.

Yeah, that was in my comedy special. It was a joke. It's 1,000% factual. I need to reshare that clip. It needs to make the rounds.

You should share clips from your special.

I was just like, actually, at this point, I'm the same way, but I used to not want to share because I was so much skin hair.

Oh, that's good then. Now you feel like you should share.

Yeah, that's great.

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I like the foundation concealer stick. Cool. Our first story, so I don't really know how to handle this, but I'm just going to make executive decision because it's a major spoiler, but everyone is talking about it. I know. And the thing is, it spoils the end of Love is Blind Season 9 in some way, and then it will spoil the reunion. But now that we're all caught up and we know what happens with every couple. This isn't as much of a spoiler as it was a few days ago.

Yeah. And I do... So we'll put it in the timestamp. If you're watching Love Is Blind, and you don't want it to world, and you've somehow managed to dodge it, thanks to everyone in the comments for rooting it for me yesterday.

For a few days, it was in the sun, and not everyone's. But now it's on the front page of page 6. There's nothing covering anything. The headline, it could mean a million different things. So it's not even a confirmed spoiler because we don't even know exactly what it means.

So if you're looking to not know anything about what's happened to the Love is Blind cast in the past year.

If you don't want to know anything, skip to the next story. But this is what everyone's talking about. Love is Blind star, Sparkle Megan, was spotted with a mystery A mystery man and a baby after a shocking finale. So Love is Blind star, Sparkle Megan, was spotted with a mystery man and a newborn baby after the Netflix show's shocking finale. According to photos obtained by Page 6, an unidentified man who was carrying an infant was seen going in and out of the Reality stars Denver Home on October 19th and 20th.

Wait, she had the baby already?

Yeah, there is a baby.

I thought she was pregnant.

No, there's a baby. Whose baby? We don't know. How old is the baby? It's looking like maybe-Wait, I want to see these pictures. Hold on. Go to page 6.

Maybe she has a male nanny, and it's Jordan's baby.

Three, four, five months baby. Every month counts. I see.

How old is that baby? She looks great. She doesn't look like she recently gave birth.

But she could have snapped back.

Surrogate.

A lot of things could be happening here, and that's why this isn't really a spoiler because we need to know more. But it seems as though Sparkle Megan has a baby. In the preview for the reunion, they only showed one question, and it was nick asking, Jordan made you feel like you had said that you didn't know if you were ready to be a mom. Do you still feel that way? I think she is a mom today.

That's insane. You know what? It's a real shame Netflix couldn't keep us under wraps because if we all found out, We would have freaked.

Yeah. People are freaking. I had heard... First, I heard the spoiler that someone from Love Is Blind this season has a baby, and it's not with their Love Is Blind partner. I'm like, Well, unless it's with another cast member, I don't really care. No, I care. It being Sparkle.

Is huge. Jackie and I were talking about this offline, and it does really support her theory from yesterday that Megan really did go into this experiment earnestly. She's at a time in her life where she's eager to commit, and her ending up now with a new man and a baby is just proof of that. I agree with you. I never thought that she wasn't competing earnestly. I just think that she could have tried harder to make it work with Jordan.

But by the end, where they package her out, it's like, Oh, well, maybe I'm not going to be a mom, and I'm just going to play tennis and golf and stick to my hobbies. Clearly, that's not what happened. So when we were talking yesterday, I did know that she was the one who was rumored to have a baby. I'm like, Okay, that definitely plays into account here. Also, it It reminds me, I said this to you, of Lindsay Hubbard, where it's like, Oh, I'm getting... We're engaged. Oh, we're not engaged? Moving on. Baby. Going to be a mom.

Yeah, no, it's a good comparison. I'm really happy for her. I feel like I lead the Jordan and Sparkle rekindling club, and we've officially closed shop. It's not happening. I feel like this is going to be crushing for Jordan to hear. But I also wonder how he found out, if he found out with everyone at the reunion, or she must have told him before.

Or maybe everyone knew if she was pregnant, if she was seeing her friends from the show, people might have known.

Okay, but when was- Typically, it's about a year out. When was Love is Blind, most recent season in Denver, filmed?

Yeah, we do need to know every month counts here.

Right.

Every month of the baby's age.

Right.

Who's this guy?

The age-old question. Who the fuck is this guy? Chat has really not been working.

I feel like you don't ask Chat, honestly. This is a question for Reddit. When? Okay, I'm doing it on Google. Is blind.

Season 9. Okay, thank you. Spring 2024. Okay, I need to know a little bit.

Okay, so that's a year and a half.

Casting began in March 2023.

With poddates taking place around March 2024.

February and March. Okay.

Okay. This gives us time.

Do the math for me because I don't get it.

Okay, so if they started in March, say her and Jordan broke up in May, June, roughly. Say this baby is three months, four months. Let's say four months. She met someone three months after. She got pregnant It's so Lindsay Hubbard. Three to six months after breaking up with Jordan.

It feels like then it wasn't planned.

Unless this is an ex.

Right. I like that.

Yeah.

This is so crazy, and this is the best possible promo they could have had for the reunion.

For this season, that was otherwise.

When nobody gets married, it's like, Well, what do we need a reunion for? But no, we need a reunion. I'm like, I'm watching live.

I'm like, I'm waiting up. I'm like, I'm waiting up. I'm going to hold my baby.

Yeah, go Sparkle.

Go Sparkle. I love this for her. I have a team Sparkle. I've been waiting for Sparkle, and she talk the talk, and she's walking the walk.

That's true. It's nice to see somebody who went on the show.

It's like her niece.

Literally. Even though that Pageshicks article said that this man is basically living at her house. He comes in and out at all hours.

He seems to be living in her home, has been out all hours of the day. She was not pictured with the man. She was spotted running errands, visiting a local going grocery shopping. Oh, how fun for her that they're following her for all of this.

Okay, like, Slay also, Sparkle getting papped. I'm sure she didn't think that, or else they would have tried. The idea that A Love is Blind, maybe season one, but the idea that a love is blind star would get paparazzi is so inconceivable that they never even thought to cover the kid's face or hide the kid or hide the guy. He's outside in the front yard in the pictures. He's talking to the neighbors.

Someone must have tipped them off.

Yeah.

Maybe Netflix themselves to drum up some- January. It worked. It worked. Go, Sparkle.

It's your birthday. It's your birthday. Go, Sparkle.

But yeah, we need answers, and we need them now.

Yeah. I don't know when the reunion comes out, but it needs to be coming out now.

Yeah. Zack's going to flip.

Yeah. That must be such a joy, to be someone who's not chronically online, who just watches a show that they like. I don't know. Zack's really always sending me stuff on Instagram. He actually might stumble onto this piece of information, but if he doesn't, please record his reaction.

I don't know where. I think after we watched the finale, I was like, Have you seen any spoilers? And he said no. I think he's like, Yeah, no. What?

He doesn't know what a spoiler is. Honestly, I don't.

What do you mean? The show is over. What spoilers would there be?

It's out. Okay, please record his reaction.

Okay, I will. So stay tuned, Major. Major news in the Sparkle Sphere.

In the Sparkle Sphere, which Jackie's the mayor of.

I didn't see that for myself when I met her because I was the most Sparkle Megan.

Because Sparkle, I was like, This is so stupid.

Sparkle Megan. Megan. I need Josh Peck to just record a video for me of him saying Megan like that so I can use it all the time. So I can be on the show.

We need on our soundboard, we need a Megan button.

Sparkle Megan.

It's actually That's an amazing idea.

We're always talking about some Megan.

Megan Markel.

Megan Fahey. Megan Sparkle.

Oh, has anyone put that together? Megan Markel, Megan Sparkle? Title.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Some major transformation news. Britain's gone talent star Susan Boyle stuns fans. Has a bob. With an unrecognizable look. I thought this was a story. Susan Boyle has shocked fans with her new due. It's not just that she has a new due, but she's snatched herself all the way up.

Let me take a look at the picture.

Hold on. While making a rare reddit car appearance in London, the singer slept out with a blonde bob and blunt bings while she attended the Pride of Britain Awards at the Grovesner House Hotel on Monday. Yeah, Susan Boyle snatched. What about it?

She looks so fucking cute. She's She's so cute. She has bangs and a bob, and it's like a blonde bob. She's royalty. She's British royalty. I don't know if she's been nighted by Buckingham Palace yet, but she absolutely should be.

She should be Dame Susan Boyle.

The crazy thing about Susan Boyle, if we now look back at it, the reason why she went so viral was mean.

Sort of.

I think if- She had this amazing voice, and it's like, Yeah, that's why she went on Britain's Got Talent. It's not a big deal. But they were like, And she's ugly.

No, she was so unassuming-looking. It wasn't just that- Her hair was a little uncamped. The voice really didn't match Her whole energy, it's not just like a... I don't even want to use the U word. A look state.

No, but that's what they made it seem like at the time. They were like, She's a beautiful voice, but an ugly face. It's like, She's so normal-looking.

No, but it's like everybody who watched the clip, it was the literal viral clip of all time. It was before.

Everything's viral now. Everything's viral now. But it happened in Britain. It was cross-continental. It was global. It was the biggest video ever.

Yeah. For a reason, not just because we're like, She's not pretty.

No, everything goes viral now.

Yeah. It was just really shocking because also, she was very unassuming in her presentation. Then she had not just a voice, the voice of an angel. She's singing that song that only- I dream to dream of time gone by. It's like Andrea Bocelli in this little woman's body. It was shocking. It's so true. There are dreams that never die. Honestly, I want to watch it.

Should we play it?

Yeah. Wait, can I play it so I could watch my queen?

No, I want to watch Susan Boyle audition. Well, do we want her audition or then her big performance at the end?

No, the audition. Okay.

Oh, man. It's like before TV was high quality. Oh, and they're all making faces. Chills. Did you? No. I dream a This song is so good.

I love her.

Yeah, you are Susan Boyle.

She's so Patmore.

And her last name being Boyle.

Well, that was for you. That was unfortunate. She's so Patmore. It would be like if Mrs. Patmore tried out for Britain's Got Talent.

Has there ever been a sit down podcast full-line interview with Susan and her Boyle?

I feel like, yeah. She makes The Rounds, Susan Boyle podcast.

And there are dreams that never die. That song is so Lea Michelle singing with her fake mom, Adina Menzel.

Maybe Why not? We need to- I had a dream my life would be. We need to add her to dream guests.

Different from this hell I'm living. Someone now than what it seems. Did you say we need to add her to our eligible bachelor's list?

To dream guests.

Yeah. I like that.

I would love that.

Yeah, you would love it.

So shout out Susie.

Susie B.

Susie B.

Susie B. B is for Bob.

Looking good. Yeah. Slaying the house down boots.

Slaying the house down boils.

Our next story is some more Jolly Roll news. I don't know why he's decided to pop off this week, but Jolly Roll confesses to cheating on His wife, Bonnie, XO during the worst moment of his life. Her name is Bunny. Her name is Bunny. Wait, hold on. It does say Bunny. I was like, Wait, he was married before? He cheated on Bunny.

But not on Bunny.

Yeah, no, that did say Bunny. I imagined the top half of the U.

That's okay. Unfortunately, this is not a No, but this is really crazy.

So he opened up about his affair on Tuesday's episode of The Human School podcast.

To make news on someone else's podcast when his wife has a podcast is even more egregious than The Affair.

Yeah, that's actually really crazy. This is classic podcasting couple. Open up on our own show. Like, Jenna Kramer.

And that turnt.

But maybe that's why this is... Why are you laughing?

I just like that joke in my head that I'll share with you later.

Maybe that's why this is healthy because they're not duking it out on her podcast.

Right. Like, for clicks.

Yeah. Did I send you a clip of a couple duking it out on a podcast yesterday? No. I saw one. I don't know if I sent it.

Who was the couple?

I don't want to say they're a really nice couple, but it was just like...

Wasn't me and Ben?

No. It was just because... Yeah, I don't want to... They're really nice.

Where are you sending this to me?

Where should I be looking? I'm just texting you the name. It was just too much too personal, I felt.

Oh, interesting.

Anyways. Jolly Roll, cheated on his wife back in the day. He said, I don't talk about this publicly at all, but one of the worst moments of my adulthood was when I had an affair on my wife. He said, The repair has been special and we're stronger than we could have ever been. His transgressions occurred while he was spending time with people who were a bad influence. He said, I was hanging around a bunch of people that were cheating on their wives. When I was doing cocaine, I was hanging around a bunch of people that were doing cocaine. When I was drinking a lot, I was hanging around a lot of people that were drinking a lot. He said, I used to be proud of long-standing friendships just because they had a number attached to them. Horrible humans, but I would just be proud to say that dude's been with me for 12 years. I understand.

He said, I wanted to- I'm loving all the points he's making. I can't endorse.

No, I don't endorse him cheating on his wife, but accountability, check.

The growth appears to be there.

Yeah. I think this is a wonderful story of how you can come back from something like this.

Yeah.

But also, you have to change your entire life. You sleep with the dogs, you get flees.

So true. Who did he sleep with? Did he go into detail?

It's not here if he did.

Also, it sounds like the way he worded it, you can say, I cheated on my wife or I had an Affair. Affair makes it seem like it was more than once. Yeah.

That he was with guys who were doing this, she's addressed- It sounds a little gay.

No, it doesn't. No, I'm kidding. It's just like, Oh, we were all getting together. I'm like, Fucking each other.

She's touched on it a little bit, but she doesn't talk about it too much.

I didn't know any of this.

But it's a known part of their story that he's opening up about.

That's good. I mean, I guess you could only talk about it openly if you are truly healed.

Yeah.

Damn. That's the first non-P jump. Actually, that's not true. Jolly Roll literally went to jail for aggravated or arm drobbling.

Drug dealing.

Arm drobbling.

Yeah.

I guess that's not P jump behavior either.

Yeah. No, I think the P jump nature of Jolly Roll is despite- It's in his growth. Yeah. In spite of all His past.

His mistakes, yeah.

He has emerged a P-Jump. Yeah. It's in the growth. Yeah. Precious growth.

Precious growth of a man.

Are you ready for our fourth story?

Yeah. It looks so giggly today.

You are.

You need to be left. I'm going to miss you so much. Please don't go. Just podcast through birth.

Maybe I should just stop being so funny.

Yeah.

Okay. Well, this next story Documentary is really big news. I don't fully understand it, but I do feel the need to talk about it.

Okay.

Classic. You heard about this gambling scandal in the NBA?

Not really heard about it. My husband won't stop talking about it. Oh, good.

So maybe you know something about it because I just know that a documentary is going to come out about this, and it's going to be the biggest thing. I'm going to be like, Where was I that day? Why didn't we talk about it? So here I go, attempting to talk about it. Are you ready? Hornets Guard, Terry Rozier was indicted as part of an investigation into-Not the Rozier. Insider sports betting, a separate investigation into what law enforcement described as Mafia-organized rig poker games led to charges for Trailblazers coached Chauncey Billups. Two prominent NBA figures were arrested on Thursday in a nationwide federal investigation.

One is a coach.

One's a coach, one's a player. I think other people were arrested who are former players.

Retired players. Yeah.

But literally, don't take anything I'm saying as truth. Because they don't understand. A federal investigation into internal gambling and high scam poker, especially sitting coach and former finals most valuable player, have roiled the league from players to front offices to agents, sources told MBC. The The Rests altered the tenor of this week's conversations around the NBA, whose new season had only started two days earlier, as we discussed. Mbc. It's the home opener. There's a big gambling scandal in the NBA.

It's connected to the Gambino crime Mafia family, right? That's what makes it so crazy, or did I make that part up?

I don't know if it's connected or akin to. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Because I keep reading that it was- No, I'm right. Okay. Yeah. What were they doing?

Gambino, Banano, Genovisi, and Lucasey meet the Mafia families in the NBA scandal.

What were they doing? Betting. Were people throwing games?

Illegal sports, betting, and rigged poker games. I don't really get it.

I don't really get it. It would be crazy if- Here's what the FBI director said, The fraud is mind boggling.

It's not hundreds of dollars. It's not thousands of dollars. It's not tens of thousands. It's not even millions of dollars. We're talking about tens of millions of dollars in fraud and theft and robbery across a multi-year investigation.

From poker?

Behind the headlines, here's what we know about so-called New York Mafia families that have been quietly involved in international sports betting operations and other crimes in recent decades, despite a dedicated Justice Department and FBI campaign to eradicate them. I really don't get it.

I don't get it either. It sounds like a really big deal.

Yeah, I don't know these NBA players. I don't really care. You know what? I have an idea.

And a coach asked Chad to sum it up.

Can you explain to me the NBA gambling scandal that happened this week in terms I can understand?

In terms for a dumb bitch?

I know. Chat is pissing me off, literally not generating. Hello, Chad. Are you there? Okay, now he's working on an answer for me. Okay. In the meantime, I guess we can move on.

Yeah, I guess we can. Are we going to come back to it, though? Because I don't want to get excited about moving on and then have to come back.

Maybe I should move to the next ad break while Chat searches the web.

Okay, so ad break, chat Update, fifth and final story.

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Let's see what chat delivered.

I read an interesting paragraph in this.

Okay, go. What? Because my network connection was lost. Chat sucks. It's chat down.

Co-conspirator 8 is accused of giving betters inside information about a Trailblazers game in March 2023 when Billups, who was one of the people who was arrested, was their head coach. He's alleged to have told another defendant in the case that Portland would be tanking the game and that several of the team's players would be held out with injuries. Other defendants in the case. So tanking games and then betting on them, that I can wrap my head around. That's really bad.

Yeah. By the way, ChatGPT is down.

Do the players know?

Definitely not. It's a crazy thing to risk your personal. You worked hard enough to get to the NBA. You're the head coach of an NBA team. It's a job a million girls would dream of, and you could be paid off. You ruin your entire career, your entire legacy. You're just a joke now. Also, you're in a jail. Yeah. It's like when they rigged the World Series, which that saga, I would actually love a documentary on or a movie. I'm sure there is one. Please drop it in the comments. Because that was low-key, so crazy. We even learned about that in school.

When they rigged that McDonald's Monopoly game.

That That was a great... Mcmillions. Is that what the documentary was called? Mcmillions. That was a great documentary.

Yeah, we need the people who did McMillions to do a documentary on this, to explain it in a swirly fashion.

I was just having this conversation because I heard about a crazy thing back in the day with Tylenol. There was this big national news saga where a couple of people in a small suburb of Chicago died, and they realized they all had taken Tylenol, bought at the same pharmacy, and somebody at Tylenol was pulling cyanide, and they never figured out who it was. The government got involved. It was so insane.

I never heard about this story. There was cyanide in the Tylenol.

Yeah, I never heard about it. It was only in this one suburb of Chicago. It wasn't nationwide. But of course, it was a nationwide story. How was cyanide getting into the homes of Americans? They never figured it out. I would love a documentary on that, too. The McMillions people need to get to work. Yeah.

So much corruption, turdy.

I mean, that's why we do what we do. It's being a purpose.

Yeah, but you know who stays on top of it and they don't get their flowers?

Let me think.

Who stays on top of corruption and doesn't get their flowers?

Us.

Well, yes. We stay on top of everything and we don't get our flowers.

Who?

American Greed. They have an episode about everything, and they will have an episode about this before HBO razzle dazzle. They turn that shit around.

Yeah, I love that.

No story too big or too small.

Yeah.

They're going to let you know about the farmer who was swindled by some whore.

Not the farmer who was farmer wants a whore.

Like, really crazy stories.

I've never seen farmer wants a wife. I just feel like we talk about it all the time. We need to watch it.

I feel like we would like it. I see clips sometimes, and I'm like, This looks entertaining.

I hear Bruno trying to escape.

Yeah, he is. Mommy can't get up, Bruno.

So it looks like you're staying.

For the fifth and final story, which is going to lead into our TV recap. Headline news from the Kardashian's. Chloe Kardashian hasn't had sex in three years, she says.

There were so many headline moments. This was such a great episode. I just love these gals. I don't know. I feel like they went through an era. It was on both this show and the E-Show, where the show felt like something they just had to do. We used to literally just watch them scroll on their phones, and then there was like B-Plots of pranks, and it was so stupid. But I feel as though in the last two years, they've really stepped their pussy up. I'm not even in my Kardashian obsessed era right now, and I thought it was the best TV I'd ever seen. I was, first of all, that Barry being dead thing. I texted Simon, I said, I'm sorry, me and Ben could not stop laughing. It was so funny. It was clearly something that they were going to cut out if they thought he was dead. But the fact that he's alive, and not him calling Chloe fat, that was such a crazy story.

Yeah, it was, but it was the '80s.

It was the '80s.

I love that she was not even offended. Of course, she's offended, but that's what you said back then.

She's healed from that, that era. Then the storyline, there were so many great story lines. Every gal had their own thing. Let's just go through the gals. How about that? Okay. Kim, finally, really opening up probably the most she ever has about Kanye and how difficult it's been, while also filming All Spare. Honestly, El Spare looks really good.

Not to me. But I do wonder why Kim now is taking the lid off of all Kanye stuff. She also went on Call Her Daddy, and it seems like with the express purpose of, That's the thing I'm going to open up about is Kanye stuff. I didn't get a chance to watch it, but based on what I've seen from headlines- She echoes what she said in the episode. The most buzzworthy moments were about Kanye things. So a decision has been made that we're talking about it now.

I think what she hinted at on the episode is that she's talking about it because she used to not talk about it so that the kids wouldn't see it. But I think the kids are a little bit aware now, especially the older ones. She protected them as long as she could. That was the vibe that I got.

I just feel like everything's very intentional. There's a reason we're talking about it now.

I'm down, by the way. I've been ready for her to talk about it. At first, I respected her, and then I got annoyed.

But she talks about it, but she doesn't really talk- You're specific. What are we... Because when you're saying Kanye is doing one of his things, I'm like, When he's being a Nazi, Is that what we're talking about? Are we talking about when he... Or like- tweets. Yeah. There are so many different things, and I'm sure she's talking about all of it, but specifically, and also of all those things, sometimes he goes after her family, and I think that those are the worst ones. Where does the Nazism rank in terms of frustrating things she does. I feel like we are talking about it without actually really talking about it, which is a good strategy, but it was also like, no one expects for her to talk about it.

Yeah, no. The time for that was over, and you made the decision, and we respected it.

Yeah. I don't need Kanye now. I understand it completely. It makes more sense than if you did talk about it because you have four... Duh. I don't know why now are we talking about it in very vague terms while acting as if we have opened the floodgates.

When she was in her trailer and she was talking about it, and then she's FaceTime me with Chloe, and clearly, all the kids are sleeping at Chloe's house because she's working really late, and she's getting teary-eyed on FaceTime. I was like, You literally don't have to be here.

Claudia, I thought the same thing when they zoomed out on that set, and she's in the middle of Hollywood. Her kids are having a fun sleeper. She's like, I wish I was there. I'm like, Go be there. You don't have to. Don't do this.

No. Of all the things that Kim does, the law really serves a purpose. I think it really fulfills her. Her businesses are what sustained this whole empire, filming the show. This scripted show is the most unnecessary thing Kim's ever done. The fact that you're watching her miss this time her kids, and she's so upset about it. I'm like, You don't have to be here. Leave.

Yeah. That's exactly how I felt watching her in the trailer.

I'm like- She was going to miss family dinner because she had scenes, but they got postponed.

Yeah. No, I'm just like, Why are you there? Why are When you're choosing to be there? You are a billionaire. Your life is your own. You have so many businesses. You could focus on other things that don't need as much of your self and your time. This is where you're putting your eggs. I don't understand it.

That's the luxury of being a billionaire.

I don't understand it. I thought that was so weird. Now that she signed up for the show, you have to miss it because you have to do your scenes. But I don't understand why this is a priority. We felt that way last season, and that does take away from being in a Kim era because I'm like, I'm not.

I think I'm definitely in my Chloe era. Chloe's really a blend of Kim, who is the mom and works, works, but works, works, works, works, works It's your company. She's just mom, mom, mom. Chloe, I feel like she does a good amount of work. She fills her cup work-wise, but she's at home as much as she wants and as much as she can. I feel like she really makes the best use of being the privilege of choosing to work as much as you want. Yeah. I'm so Chloe. I just love Chloe.

I love Chloe. I love what she wore to the dinner. I thought she looked so beautiful.

Oh, my God.

She looked insane. I just loved that pink dress. I love her style, too, in general, where it's Kim is always doing the most. Courtney's doing the least. Doing the least. Everything about Chloe, she's always been the most... Real. Normal one, even in terms of the style of her home, it's a home you want to live in. It's just pargy. It's not avant-garde. It's a museum. I love her taste.

Me too. I love her take on everything. It's clear that the Courtney Kim thing is over. I feel like they both have just come to a place where it's never going to be great, but they've They set aside their differences in a sense. But it's not radioactive anymore. But now, Chloe and Courtney, which is so crazy, because when you think we've been watching Kardashian since season one, we've been obsessed with their dynamics. The dynamic was always that Courtney and Chloe were leaving out Kim. Now it's Kim and Chloe leaving out Courtney.

For the last five years, it's Kim and Chloe. But it seems like this season, Chloe beefing with everyone. But also it seems like the sisters are just not super close at the moment, which always makes me sad. But last season, Chloe and Kim actually have been beefing a lot. Kim gives her a lot of grief about not leaving the gates and always being with the kids, and then they go on a trip, and she's always FaceTiming her kids. It's really unnecessary.

Agreed. Because I feel like Chloe, at least from the way I see it, does it really well.

It's inspirational. They were real fights, too. I don't think you watched last season or all of it. No, I did. You saw when they went to the mountains. Milan.

Oh, India.

No. That was a good times. When they went to some Aspen trip, they took a girls trip for two nights. Chloe was on the phone FaceTiming true a lot. Kim was getting mad at her, saying that every time she goes to a party, she's FaceTiming her kids.

Week. Yeah, now week. The Let Me event was so funny. I was seriously cracking up. And very nice of Chloe to go.

Yeah. She's a real one. She's a supportive cis, and she likes to work out.

She's so supportive. Yeah. Then Courtney is... You know what? I was texting Jackie because I feel like Courtney lives that nontox life. She said, But you know what? I feel like she really walks the walk and talks the talk because for the first time ever, I feel like she's the only one who's actually almost looks her age.

Because she's not having Botox.

That's not clean, Botox and filler. It's probably the most toxic thing that she's done in her life.

It's literally called tox, Botox.

She has said that she's committed to not doing it, and I feel like she really looks like a mom her age. She looks great. But she doesn't look like the rest of them because she is aging somewhat naturally. She looks a little bit older than Chris. Chris looks great. I really respect it. Let's talk about them finally leaning in and talking about the facelift. I don't know how the facelift was at the same time as the fire. That was really crazy. They're evacuating MJ. I love that they're leaning in. Kylie made news a couple of months ago talking about her boob job, and I love it.

Let's talk about the butts. What? Let's talk about the butts.

Oh, thank you. Oh, my God. I didn't even realize. Let's talk about the Butts, yes. But two, it's like, well, everyone's doing it now. It would have been really revolutionary if they had done it years ago because They've always been like, whenever everyone's talking about the standard of beauty, they get always thrown in there. It would have been very powerful. I'm glad that they're doing it now and like, Yeah, let's talk about the ass. But it would have been major if they did it a couple of years ago. I loved that Miranda the Priestly thing. It was weird and random, but the production quality was so good.

It was so good. It was fun. It was the best thing I ever saw. It was a fun project for the office to work on.

You know the girls in the office were having the best time of their lives. It's hysterical. Chris did an amazing job.

Who? Chris. Oh, yeah.

I love Chris. I'm sorry. I feel like now as a mom, I relate more to Chris ever. Like, Heather was making fun of her for crying. No, Chris is terminally postpartum. No, not terminally. Eternally postpartum. How you look at your baby when you're postpartum and you just cry. That's what she does.

Except when they were talking about when they lived in the El Dorado house, and she was just not paying attention to anything or anyone.

Oh, yeah. That was Chris's crazy era.

Yeah. I loved all this.

That El Dorado house.

I loved that. I know. That was a good house with good juju.

The weird thing is they all have these memories from the house, and even just seeing them currently filming in the kitchen with the fridge behind them, that's such a classic scene. But I also felt like I've been through so much in that house. You know what I mean? I just watched so many seasons of that show.

It's crazy that Kim moved in there with her babies. Kanye and North. That they didn't get a rental house, that they moved into her mom's house, and they lived there for years.

I wish they talked about how the show used a different house from the outside. Because that house is so gorgeous. I didn't realize they still used it. They had a party there. It was a Tru's birthday party. They were flashing back. They used it. It's brilliant. Them selling it does feel like a recession indicator. When the producer was like, Why are you selling it? Chris was like, For cash? I feel like they should have held on to it. It's such a gorgeous house. They were like, I'm thinking, Kim is like, the black of my force? They're so ugly. I love it.

Yeah, it's a moment in time. It's a moment in time. But it is a little dated, which is crazy. I'm scared to think about it. Every 10 years, a house is ugly now.

I know. Kendall's so funny and quirky and different. The fact that showed up on her horse. That was the best part of the episode. It was so different and funny and cool, and I love what it added.

I never saw someone jump on the horse before.

It was the coolest, most different, unique, nerdy thing I've ever seen. Yes, Kylie, give us literally nothing. Yeah. Kylie must not catch a check from this show. It's actually unfair if she does.

Yeah. Were her kids even at the dinner?

Was she, Jackie, was she even miced up?

I don't know.

Rob gave us more.

Rob.

Rob. Oh, my God. We need Rob. I feel like they're getting to a place where Robin, I mean, Caitlin, obsessed. Like, yes, bring everyone.

We need Caitlin. The thing about Rob, I love Rob because he's raw, but I don't miss him, and I just want what's best for him. If he ever is just wanting to be on the show, come one, come all, but it doesn't- I know Chloe was like, I know you guys are dying to have him back.

I'm actually not. I love it. But I want what's best for Rob's self.

Yeah. So he has to really want to come back, and then I'll be like, Great. That would be fun. Caitlin, give me more Caitlin.

Not the hokas.

She's so fucking funny.

She's so fucking funny. I really need her and Chris to reconcile. I know it's so weird for Chris. I know and I fully, I get it. I need her to put her differences aside because the two of them shooting scenes, that's going to make this show the best show on TV.

I completely I completely agree. When Chris was like, There's someone who should be here. We knew Caitlin was coming this season, but I didn't realize in this context. First episode. This was Caitlin's house. Caitlin was, for lack of a better term, the man of the house. They can't say goodbye to the house without Caitlin.

A thousand %. Also, very interesting episode. When Chloe went over to Scott's house, and Scott shared how he wants to move to Newark, I'm like, Okay, this is a subplot that's never going to happen. He was going to take Mason with him. Then I got to think, I'm like, Does Mason live with Scott?

It sounds like that. Which is so crazy. That was very interesting and very curious. It made me sad for Scott because I understand why he would want to leave California at this point, but he can't because his family is in- I know.

Scott is from New York. His parents lived there, but they are both deceased. I don't think it would be good for him to move to a place with no family.

I think he has friends, long-standing childhood friends. I think he just loves New York. But his kids are in California. Even if Mason went with him, he still has two other kids. I just No, you can't. But that made me sad that he's stuck there in a place where he's like, Why do I live here?

Well, maybe he doesn't need to live in Hidden Hills, per se.

But does it get any better than Hidden Hills?

No.

Where is he trying to go? I don't know, but it's like he's- He needs a nice girlfriend.

A thousand %.

He needs a wife and someone who can make a home for him and maybe even have more kids. More kids. He needs family.

He needs a Jewish wife, a beautiful Jewish wife to make a beautiful Jewish home. With lots of Shalom bai. He does. Yeah, because he does feel like he's stuck in this place where he can hang out with... The Kardashians are his family, but he really can't... He should have been at that dinner, but he wasn't invited, obviously, because I don't think anywhere Courtney is, he's not going to be. He hangs out with Chloe, and I think he hangs out with Chris, and sometimes he hangs out with Kim. He films, and I think he makes a nice paycheck from that. But it's not enough. He's a part of a family sometimes.

He needs a wife.

Farmer needs a wife.

A nice Jewish girl in her 30s, that's what he needs.

Oh, honorable mention.

They could have more kids.

Yeah. And Scott seems like a really great dad. He loves being a dad. Yeah. He slowed down his life. He doesn't party so much anymore. His life really lends itself to family and kids.

If anyone knows Scott, set him up with someone like Hamish, please.

Please. Someone really just nice and normal.

Yeah. And also It was beautiful and cool because those things are important to him. But also, hey, Michelle's wife.

I don't know, I mentioned when they were doing the Julia Fox thing, which was interesting to see how that went down. Kim obviously doesn't care. But Courtney called Kim to ask if they could use Julia Fox, and she was like, Oh, we're doing Let Me Play, which is like a libido gummy. And Kim, as a joke, was like, Oh, are you going to have your mom and Cory be in the campaign? And let me tell you, that would have been such a better campaign. That Julia Fox thing was a the pin. I don't even remember it. It wasn't memorable at all. That would have been hilarious.

The Julia Fox thing was so weird to me. Why were they acting like Julia Fox is the only person who could be the face of this campaign? As if she's the face of libidos and the biggest name. Not that they shouldn't have had her because of the association, but it's like, why are they?

Her name could have been thrown in, but it wasn't the end all be all.

It's like that we have to get Julia.

No, you have to get Chris and Cori.

Yeah. When she did the campaign, we wondered if Kim was- There was...

Yeah.

It's just so random.

Yeah. I would have liked to see Chris and Cori. Kim is such a businesswoman. Even her joke idea was amazing.

Yeah.

I loved it.

Yeah.

I thought it was... Maybe I'm being dramatic. I thought it was such a good episode. I was enjoying it. I never wanted it to end.

Yeah, it was definitely more akin to the good old days, but that's also because of the premise of the house. The premise of the house. Yeah. Because a lot of the stuff for the upcoming season, it was packaged very titulating.

But it's not things I'm dying to know.

Right.

I just find the actual details of their dynamics, of their businesses. I find that really interesting.

Yeah, but it really feels like they're less close than ever. It just feels like a bunch of strangers. And that's why now when they insult each other, it's like, you actually can't say that because you don't know me like that.

It's so true. And it's almost like when housewives pick up cameras and you could tell that none them are friends with each other, and they haven't seen each other on the break. It's so boring. We want real friends. It feels like they now only see each other when they film.

Yeah, but it's like they used to be able... They used to always barbed with each other and saming stuff. They would literally slap each other, but they were so close that it's like, that Sisterly. But now when you don't- But when Chris and Courtney slapped each other, that was real, most recently. Yeah, but now when Courtney's saying something insulting to her sister, it's like, okay.

The outfit thing. Yeah. We get it. I actually love that for you. Yeah, You shouldn't have to wear heels anymore. You've worked hard enough in your life. You've worn enough heels. I actually was with her 100% until she was like, And my sister's. It's like, Okay, well, let everyone do their own thing. Don't be judgmental and rude. She's just the type of person. It's not to be judgmental, but then she says something judgmental.

But it's like, here's a perfect example. When they went to Japan and Kim was like, You look like clowns. She was making fun of their outfits, which is exactly what Courtney just did. But at that time, they were close. They're on a trip together. We can just talk shit to one another because we also have the love to balance it out. Here, you just sound mean.

Being a bitch. Yeah. Yeah. She sounded so mean, even though Kim looked nuts at that dinner. She did. How was that comfortable? I know that they're at family dinner, but they're also filming. I understand being in full glam. I understand not wearing pajamas like you would to your family's dinner. But a corset, Capri's and Wedges, that was insane.

Yeah, it's not even about comfortable because I don't think she ever expects to be comfortable. But it also wasn't- Approved.

Appropriate.

Cute or appropriate, the vibe for backyard. Let's dress for the occasion. Chloe looked amazing.

So did Kylie. I just really wanted more Kylie. She looked so great. She didn't even talk.

I know.

Whatever. Give us nothing.

Yeah, that was fun.

It was really fun. Let's dive into our final segment of the week, which is Queeny and Weenie of the Week, where Jackie and I like to take a look back at the week, perhaps at a glance, and deliver two awards, Queeny of the Week and Weenie of the Week, where we're diving out two awards, Queeny of the Week, Weenie of the Week. It's pretty obvious. I really don't want to explain it again, but I always find myself in this trap where I have to explain it. Please, Queenie, let us know.

My Queenie is a last minute addition. She's an eternal queenie, and I don't think she's ever actually been Queenie of the Week on this show. Everything about her is queeny like in nature. That is Susan Boyle.

Oh, I thought you were going to say Bridget.

Oh, always a queenie. Was that your queenie?

No, she was an honorable mention, but I forgot. This has been a crazy week. I've been through a lot this week. A mere seven days ago, I was returning home for my trip to LA. In that spirit, and not seven, five. Oh, my God. In that spirit, I'm making the great city of New York my queenie. Let me just tell you, New York at Christmas. What a sight. Oh, it's so pargy in New York. It's crisp. I'm a little cold when I leave the house. We're going on walks, the leaves. It's such a pargy time. It took me leaving and going to that shithole to appreciate what I have. Let me just use this also as a reminder to let everyone know the New York City mayoral race is coming up, and it's a futile effort, but I'm literally begging you not to vote for Zoran Moundani. I know you're going to, and I know he's going to win, but I just want to have been on the right side of history. In a year, I'm going to play this clip, and you know what I'm going to say? I fucking told you, bitches, okay?

Now, Weanie of the Week. I've been looking forward to Weanie of the Week all week. I actually had so many contenders.

There's one for me that rises above all other Weenies, and that- Let's say it on three.

One, two, three.

Ben Simmons' Sister. From the moment she opened her mouth- Her mouth. On TikTok this week, it was weanie behavior.

Something that could not- From the minute she opened her mouth, a weanie popped out. It was just so loser-y.

Something that could not be eclipsed by other weanie behavior without being commemorated in this moment.

Selena Gomez was in a true second-place honorable mention for me, but honestly, it's too simple to just give her weanie.

Also, it's like, She's going to do it again next week, so you could do it again.

We have so many opportunities, but I don't know when we're going to talk about Ben Simmons' random sister ever again. No. It had to be like a cemented in stone.

It did. I know I wrote down on my thing, like Weanie Olivia Simmons. I know in a month- Her name's Olivia. I think so.

I wrote Ben Simmons' sister.

I know in a month. I'm going to say, Who is that?

Are you still writing them down?

Just today, I did just to organize my thoughts.

No, remember how you were writing down all of our Weanie's and queens?

No, I'm not still doing that because I sometimes lose my pen.

That's a good reason to not write something down. You don't have a pen.

I'm going to keep tabs on my pen. But you know what? I will add the date for this one. What's today?

The 24th. The 24th. Okay.

I actually technically have mine from last week, too. Not That's all she wrote.

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Oh, wait. Are you going to say bye?

I mean, yeah, a bigger bye.

You're going to make it a big deal.

Yeah. Bye. I don't know. I feel like I'm going to be back tomorrow. You know what I mean? Yeah. We'll see you next week. It's not goodbye. It's see you later.

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