Transcript of Back to Basics: Wednesday, October 29th, 2025

Good morning, girlies. It's The Toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.

It's your favorite show, the fast-fired things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's The Toast.

They sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Hump Day. It is so appropriate that My guest co-host today is no guest of all. She's roamed these Halls. Someone's cooked here before. It's Jacqueline, Follet, Free Bush. Yeah, that's right.

Jack's is back, pregnant as hell. Your favorite Jerome Derry is back for Hump Day.

Yes. Okay, not my clue. Everybody knew my clue. But there were a couple of people, and I thought this might throw people off. Jack's Taylor. We thought maybe Jacks Taylor was closing.

I figured that would be the only other guest unless you don't know Jacks. Who doesn't know Jacks? No, Jacks. Jacks' of Jacks playing.

Oh, the game Jacks.

The game of Jacks.

Such an underrated game. If my back wouldn't give out, I would play Jacks right now.

If there was a way to play in a seated cushion. Table In a chair, it would be the best game ever. But you have to play on the floor. And for that reason, I'm out.

And something just thinking about... Jaxx is such a sleepaway camp game. So if you didn't go to sleepaway camp, you might not know Jaxx.

Right. That's what I'm saying. You might not know Jaxx.

It's not like monopoly. It doesn't have that universal brand awareness. But when I think back to the years and summers I spent playing Jacks, I think that playing Jacks was the happiest I've ever been in my whole life. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

We need to play Jacks. When I come visit you, I'm bringing Jacks.

That's it. I have a good floor for Jacks, I feel like.

I also, two summers ago, when we spent the summer together in the Hamptons, I bought Jacks. Nobody played it.

Well, you have to get the right Jacks because some Jacks are not good.

Are crap. Plastic? No. We want metal. We want The little ones are not good. No, we need Tiffany's to make Jacks.

Yeah, we need the best in the biz. But speaking of Jacks, yes, I am back for today. Speaking of Jacks. I had started my maternity leave, and the maternity leave hasn't started.

The baby didn't really get the notice that the leave started.

Claude was just doing episodes, and I was like, I could pop in if you need me. So we made a plan to do it together. I'm excited. You just can't keep me off this mic.

Shout out to Taylor Strecker for taking the boot like a champ. She knows that she'll be back, and also she doesn't watch Dancing with the stars. And I felt like after last night's episode, I need to talk about it. So it's better that I save her for a Tuesday.

Yeah. We also podcasted yesterday I just won't stop podcasting. They can't shut me up. You can't get her off the mic. You can't shut me up. We did a Patreon episode yesterday of a full catch up of the last four days because I don't know how I- Because you haven't been here. I don't know how I breathe and then don't podcast about it. It's really hard when we are off and I'm like, all these thoughts I have or things that I do, I'm like, who do I tell? Did it even happen?

Not to make everything about me, but I've done two guest co-host episodes, and I'm so tired. She needed a break. It's insane how much work it is. This is my job right here, right now. This feels like a day off. It feels like a short week. Don't make me go back tomorrow. Even though actually tomorrow's host slays big time.

Oh, yeah. Tomorrow's host slays big time. And also, you guys, my iPad case materialized, so I had to come back. So she had to come back. Just to show you that I knew that it would. I knew that I didn't lose it. I just I placed it, and it has materialized two months later. My mic flag is still off. That's okay. I'm still on workers' comp for that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I just wanted to bring my iPad case back, so I came back.

And How are you feeling about labor? You feel like it's going to be... I feel like it's going to be this afternoon. You do. Because it just would be so crazy if you podcasted the day you went into labor. It's so us.

It's so us. No, at this point, for the last few weeks, and also with my...

Spd?

No, actually, with my cervical incompetence, my other ailment, the risk is always going into labor too soon with that. I just always feel like I'm going to go into labor. And now I'm just It's like, you know what? Maybe I'm not. Maybe I have three more weeks.

Oh, you're reverse psychology the baby. No, I'm not.

I'm just like, Okay, you win. Maybe I have three more. I got three more weeks gone.

Listen, the fact that you're a cervical incompetent queen and we're over here just making it till the very end. It's amazing.

I'm thrilled to bits.

Yeah. No, it's huge. It's like this baby slayed.

Yeah. No eviction From me, take your time. Trust the process.

And how big was Baby the last time he was weighed?

Big.

Yeah, that's really crazy. Like a couple of pounds more than Ruby was when he was born.

Yeah.

You have huge babies. You don't get enough credit for that.

I know. I don't get enough credit for the fact that I birthed Charlie at 9 pounds, 5 ounces. That's so crazy. I do feel like that's on me, that I should bring it up more in every day conversation.

I blame you.

So this is me using my platform. So you guys know nine and a half pound baby, things I did.

And what about who? Chaluch.

Harry was 7 pounds, 14 ounces, which is pretty average. Average? Yeah. So we'll see what's in store. But I just feel like I don't get enough credit for that. I'm not annoying enough about it, and I really should be. Because that's crazy stuff.

Yeah.

That's really crazy stuff.

Well, we're so glad to have you here. Seriously, I can't thank you enough. I know the hardest part of podcasting is getting up, getting dressed, and walking up your stairs. We appreciate you. We need you, especially after last night's Standing with the Stars episode. It's only right that your final, final episode be discussing Jen Affleck, the end of her postpartum journey on Dancing with the Stars. As her postpartum journey ends, yours begins.

That my final episode will be Justice for Jen Affleck. I'm not happy to have been right about what I've been saying all season, but It seems as though I've been right about something. Yeah, 1,000 %. That something ain't right. She was so sad last night.

She wasn't even sad. She was done.

I actually, for the first time, did not vote for her because I did not think she wanted to be voted for. I think she wanted to go home.

It was the kind thing to do.

She was not acting like someone who wanted to be voted for. Usually, you go up to the voting booth and you're like, vote for Elle. She was just like, she had her soft smile on all night. She wasn't even faking the megawatt smile. I was like, Jen, I hear you. We're done here.

Yeah, she was very defeated. Is there a TV recap? Is there a story?

Yeah. Fifth and final story going into TV recap of Dance With The Stars will be our fifth story. I feel like that's been working for the group. I haven't seen any complaints, which is shocking.

Yeah. No, I like that.

Then what else? I watched a little more Ina to lull me to sleep last night. She was doing Thanksgiving Sides. I was getting inspired.

Oh, I've seen that episode.

I was getting inspired.

I also fell asleep to the sweet sounds of Ms. Garden. What was she? Oh, She made the most... Yeah, Shaki, she made the most insane dish. What did she make? I was barely watching, and then I look up and I'm like, Is that a plate of sausage and grapes? It was the biggest plate of huge sausage garnished with grapes. It was really fucking gross. She's really insane.

Was the sausage... Did it have a special name?

Yes, it was Sausage.

It was Did it start with a K? I don't know. Because a couple of episodes that I've watched, she's cooking this special sausage.

Oh, no. That's not Kilimanjaro, but like- Yes, Kilimanjaro. Yeah, wait. It's like that hot place. Kilbasa. Kilbasa. Wait. Is that right? Hold on. Sausage? That starts with K.

She's always making kilbasa.

With a K.

We're not the only- She put Kilbasa on everything.

Okay, but then I also wanted to look up Ina Garten, Sausage Sausage and Grapes. Oh, look, I'm not the only person. Roasted Sausages and Grapes recipe. She's so disgusting. Oh, yeah. The picture is exactly what she made. It was red and green grapes in this sausagey sauce.

That's really crazy.

Watch. This is a cultural dish, and I'm being offensive. I'm sorry, it looked disgusting.

She's of our culture, right?

I want to know why.

Yeah, which show were you watching?

Back to Basics, and there was nothing basic about that. It was crazy.

Yeah, I had to go find another season of- Yeah, we season hop as well. Yeah, my season was no longer cutting it for me. She made a crab dip nacho.

Okay, so as the seasons go on, you can see she gets really desperate.

Yeah, there's so many things you can cook, but cook it again. I don't care.

I know. And there's 18 seasons, so it's hard to do basics 18 times. So the beginning episodes are better-recipes, but lower-concepts.

Concepts, but lower quality.

But It's like the '80s, so it's really blurry. And then you get later, and it's super high quality. She's got fancy guests, and she's making sausage of grapes. You can't win.

Yeah, but I was enjoying Thanksgiving. I'm hosting Thanksgiving this year, which I'm really- But did Can you talk to Olivia about that?

Yeah.

Okay. We're aligned.

Okay, because she's making the turkey. She's making the turkey.

That's how we do it here in Florida. Liv makes the turkey. I make the sides. I'm excited to host here, and I'm already I'm buying shit. Love that. I've been on William's to know my... It's like, do I take the plunge and get Thanksgiving plates?

I mean, you live in a house, so why'd you move to a house if you're not going to get Thanksgiving plates?

I know, but then that means I'm hosting every year. If I get Thanksgiving plates, it means I'm hosting every year. No.

I think let's not get Thanksgiving plates. Not turkeys on them? Let's get autumnal plates. That way, you can use them for a couple of months. If you don't host Thanksgiving that year, the plate still gets some use. If you make a chili.

That's true. I could get plaid, maybe. A green plaid, like very Shannon.

Okay, Trey McDougal.

Trey McDougal, but it doesn't match my table. My table's pink. I guess I could use a tablecloth.

I cannot think of plaid without thinking of the Highland Flake.

That's so funny because for me now, it's Shannon's sitting room.

Such a beautiful room.

Great. Such a beautiful room. Such a good reference.

To reference or not reference.

And just a great source of inspiration for me. It's funny because when she buys Pliny stuff, she did all of Easter, she decked out her house. She was like, I feel like you.

Yeah. I don't love plaid. I just want to say for your plates.

Okay. But so you think I should get seasonal plates?

Yeah. You know where I need to go. Can you get them from Homegoods or then you have to get them from Tiffany?

No, that's what I was just about to say. I shouldn't get them from William's Sanoma. I should go get them from Homegoods, but I don't think I can go to Homegoods with SPD.

No. You know what? When I fly down, I'll go to Homegoods and just FaceTime you, okay?

Okay. Yeah, that sounds good. That will be so fun. I'll get a couple of nice things from William's Sanoma, but blend. Just a couple. Just a couple. Just a couple of things.

Well, we are here to do the Fast Five. We're here to do dancing with the stars. So if it's all right with you, I'm ready. Yeah, sure. We caught up so much on the Patreon yesterday.

We did. If you guys want more girly, girly the chat. It's all there on the Patreon. Com/thetoast.

If you need to know what the last four days have looked like from Jackie, and if you're looking for a really, really in-depth analysis into Ina Garten's back to Basics, we literally... I'm literally talking about it. I literally cannot stop talking about it.

It's weird that we're both watching it, and I'm sorry, but she just elicits a lot of strong opinions. She's crazy. I didn't even say this on the Patreon, but I had said it to you. I can't watch Jeffrey anymore without bowling over laughing. You have ruined Jeffrey for me. Oh, that's funny. I was in bed with Zack. We were just watching Ina, and I'm sitting there. They're having their grilled cheeses outside, and I'm laughing so hard. And he's like, What are you laughing at? I'm like, It's just funny because Claudia makes fun of him, and it's funny.

He is the worst.

I can't. You've really ruined the show for me.

You're welcome.

And you've ruined Jeffrey.

I can't wait for you to get to Sausage and Grapes.

I hope it never finds me. I didn't jump around, though. When she's doing some weird shit, I'm not out of here.

Jackie, but you're going to jump into Sausage and Grapes. That's what happens. What season are you on? I don't know. But if anyone's looking to get in on this journey with us, it's on HBO Max, and there's 18 seasons. It's literally amazing.

You know who I blame for this? Ben. Netflix, because I got kicked out of Netflix. Yeah, me too. I couldn't get in one night, so I was like, I'll go to another app, and I started watching Ina on Max, and that's how we got here, and we can't get out. But I've also been cooking accordingly, making pargy meals. You saw me last night making salmon. Salmon. It's been good. Overall, I'm eating good. That's always a good thing. I can clown all I want. Now, without further ado, it is time for the Fast Five stories that you to do need to know.

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Our first story, Jacob Alorty and Olivia Jade, Gia Nulie, have fully split after briefly rekindling their romance. Jacob, Elordy, and Olivia Jade are done. A relationship is reportedly over for good. They are reportedly not getting back together after briefly rekindling their romance in September, a source said that it is fully over.

Good. She can seriously do better. I'm so over it.

Yeah. Once there was the crack in this relationship, and I saw the potential on the other side, and I really was questioning the relationship for the first time. Is this best for Olivia's self? No, it's not.

No. We need to acknowledge that it was a really good moment for her. When they started dating, she was just coming back from the college admissions scandal, and this was a huge step up. I think he really helped in her image rehabilitation, so much so that when we all talk about Olivia Jade, we don't even talk about that anymore. I think the relationship ran its course, and I'm grateful to him for seeing in her what I've seen for years and leveling her up. But I do think she's outleveled him now.

Agreed. And being a great part of this journey for her. A thousand %. A wonderful stepping stone.

A thousand %.

But we are moving on to Glenn Powell? Higher Steps. No, we're not moving on to Glenn Powell.

I just want to say I ship wholeheartedly. I don't think they are together, but they were spotted together again.

But again- But then you said that they're friends.

They are, and he's really good friends with her mom. I don't know. That's not the type of guy you date. Actually, that's the type of guy you marry, the one who's really good friends with your mom.

No, I don't think Glenn's self, but I do think a Sophia and Elliot route.

I love. Because also, and I know we say this every time, but Olivia Jade grew up nice. Obviously, her mom is Zori Loughlin, but they are billionaires. Her dad is one of the biggest- She likes nice things. Right. I think a businessman, Bo, is a great route. Acting is a little unstable. I don't know if you have unlimited money, especially Olivia lives well. She makes a nice living herself, of course, but we don't want Olivia to work. We want her to just retire and just chill. Yeah, businessman, Bo, I love the Elliot Grange comparison. That's a good one.

Yeah, like business and Bo in the industry, not a stranger. To this lifestyle.

Mutual friend of Sophia Richie Grange and Olivia Jade. Jake Shane. Jake Shane needs to get everyone together and get Elliot to call up one of his friends who he went to high school with, who's single and a nice boy. Maybe we get Olivia Jade to convert, too.

Maybe Olivia Jade went to that high school.

She definitely did.

Maybe she probably noticed him.

Definitely. We actually have a lot of recent party converts. Obviously, Aaron Foster has been talked about a lot. Sophia. Sophia Richie-Grange, and now Dorothy Wang.

Well, she's a story. Thanks for spoiling that. I guess I could bump it up. Yeah, give Dorothy the bump. Yeah, you know what? Especially, just to balance the fact that a couple broke up, another couple got married. Dorothy Wang marries lawyer Brandon Yankowits in a romantic ceremony in Italy. So Dorothy Wang is best known from Rich Kids of Beverly Hills or Bling Empire, NYC, if you happen to catch that like I did.

Or her iconic episode on The Toast where she predicted that Kylie Jenner was pregnant with her first baby. We were like, Dorothy, you're crazy. She was right.

She was right. She got married this weekend to a lawyer, Brandon Yankowits. They did a story with L of their wedding. They got married in Florence, Italy. Their wedding We kicked off with a rehearsal dinner at the collegio a la Cuerse.

She got married at one of the newest... It just opened Abers. Abers. She goes to Orts. Where was it? Tuscany or Florence?

Florence. Then they also had a traditional Chinese tea ceremony to welcome their guests, and then a wedding. It was an all-weekend affair.

Now, I follow Dorothy on Instagram, and if you've been following her insane beauty, wellness, health journey to get ready for the wedding. Oh my God, it paid off in spades. She looked insane. The rehearsal dinner dress was insane. The actual wedding dress was insane. Every outfit was... The thing about Dorothy is, and she'll say this herself, she's a super judgmental She makes fun of everything. You know she had to step her pussy all the way up for this wedding because those who dish it have to be able to take it. Yeah. And literally, that one note, she looked insane.

Yeah, she did look insane. If she has no fans, I'm dead. I have been following her since Rich Kids, and I watch Bling Empire, and I'm just obsessed with her. She's just such great TV, and we need more of her on our TVs. Agreed. Then most recently, she started dating this guy, and she converted to Judaism, and now they are married. It's just a beautiful story.

And by the way, I spoke to her about it. She did a hardcore real conversion. She has a Hebrew name. It's Dahlia.

She didn't do a temple Ahava conversion?

No, she went to the Mikva. She went legit.

Did you get to that part yet?

Of course I did. Seth Rogen?

Oh, yeah. But do you get to the mom? Whose mom? Joanne's mom. What she did. No.

Okay. No. Well, yeah, she had a spiritual awakening. Yeah. But I didn't get further than that.

No, that's really it. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Now, something of note. Morgan Stewart didn't appear to be in attendance. Now, it's no secret these two aren't best friends. I also think for the show, Rich Kids, they played up their friendship a little bit more than it was, and everybody just ended up loving them, best friends, iconic duo. But it is crazy that she wasn't there.

Yes, but it's like she has two kids. It's a lot to go overseas for someone's wedding. It doesn't mean she wasn't invited. It doesn't mean- Okay, so I actually disagree. Oh, you think it's bad?

Because yes, she has two kids, yada, yada. But she's Morgan. She goes everywhere. She takes a private chat wherever she wants. She's literally in New York right now. I saw she took a private chat, and she brings her kids. It's not for you and I, a regular person It's like, yeah, bring your kids. It's like a whole thing. But it's not the same for Morgan. It's giving not invited, not RSVP'd, no.

That's just my take. Interesting. For me, it feels like RSVP'd, no, because I feel like we've seen them over the years be fine. Engage. Be Fine. I think it was a big wedding, I'm assuming. Were any other rich kids there?

Let's see. But who are the other rich kids? Oh, Esra was there, but of course, they're best friends. We knew that. Was EJ there?

I don't know. Was Was Johnny there? Was Roxy there?

No. I think I know for sure that her and Roxy don't fuck with each other anymore. Roxy had a falling out. If you watch Rich Kids, it's literally the best show ever made. Roxy had a falling out with a lot of the girls. She was on the outs most. But they all did quite well for themselves, those Rich Kids.

Then maybe some of the Bling Empire cast was there.

Maybe. I saw Cy from Roni was there.

Bring back Bling Empire, NYC. It was gorgeous.

Between like, Dorothy's level of taste and style and elegance matched with her billionaire status, and then the cultural elements of bringing together the Chinese tea, and then it was a Jewish wedding. I Would have expected a Vogue feature here, I just want to say. Ella's great, of course, but Vogue is Vogue.

Where was her Vogue feature? For me, that's on Vogue. Of course. For missing that.

Big, big mistake.

Huge. Yeah. But no, the pictures are really beautiful and- Really stunning. Really stunning. Yeah. Is it a viral wedding? Because I see it because I follow her, but is it going viral on TikTok and stuff?

They actually got married two, three weeks ago, and it was all under wraps. These photos aren't recent.

Right.

And so it's a slow rollout.

Maybe waiting for L. Maybe waiting for Vogue.

And then L. Right.

Big mistake. Huge.

And then L, right. Big mistake, huge. Pmw? No. Pmh.

H. Mazel tov to the couple, to the Yankowitzes.

Dorothy Yankowitz.

It's beautiful. It works. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? A little sports, celeb news because Megan and Harry- The World Series. Enjoyed a date night at the Dodgers World Series game. I didn't know the World Series was happening between the Dodgers and the Blue Jays.

Yeah, it's so low-key. I feel like the World Series It never really penetrates pop culture, except for that one time when Justin Verlander was doing it, and then he got married to Kate Upton the next day. But it always does feel like it has a relevant vibe to it. And this is just proof of that because I only knew about it because I get in how he went.

I feel like it's because it's always the Dodgers. And so it's always the same people talking about it and excited about it. And if it was two teams that never make it to the World Series, then more people would talk about it.

It's actually such a good not to make everything about me, but you know I've been to the World Series?

No.

In LA for the Dodgers. When I was in LA a couple of years ago, somebody was like, Do you want to go? I have a ticket. I was like, Oh, okay.

At this point, it's just another Dodgers game.

Right. And Dodgers Stadium is so far from the action.

In hindsight, I did see stuff about Shohe, and I think Justin and Haley were there.

Sydney Sweeney was there. What happened with Shohe?

No, he's just doing press because I guess he's in the World Series.

I I love him.

So, yeah, now that I think back on what I've seen in the last few days, everything's coming up Dodgers, I guess because they've been in the World Series. But thanks to Megan and Harry for really letting me know that for sure. And the Blue Jays, which now makes sense because I did see that Kristenristen Nuszsche- Well, wait, also Toronto, Justin and Haley. Kristen Neuszsche made a custom outfit for Bibi Rexa to sing the national anthem at the Dodgers Blue Jays. So it's a Dodgers shirt with a Blue Jays jacket. Everything Dodgers. Everything I'm seeing makes sense now.

Yeah. Like I said, it shouldn't be this hard for us to piece things together. Baseball is just not- Especially being a sports podcast. Having a moment right now. Right. Go, team, go. I'm obviously rooting for the Dodgers because not to be xenophobic, but every time a Canadian team plays in our league, seriously, Scram, Toronto Raptors. Scram.

She doesn't like I love that sound.

Yeah. With the exception of hockey, because hockey is Indigenous to Canada, with baseball, basketball. Get out of here. It's so weird. This is American. You're not- Oh, I don't mind.

You want to join in the fun? I do.

No, get out of here.

That doesn't bother me.

That actually bothers me a lot.

I'm just a woman of the world, and I will accept Canadians in our sport.

As they are. As they are. Wait, can I Can I get your take? Did you see the pictures of Katie Perry and Justin Trudeau in their red dress celebrating her birthday in Paris?

Like leaving a restaurant? Mm-hmm.

What did you think? Because to me, it was really impactful. It totally changed what I think about them. I ship so hard.

You ship?

Yeah, I thought she looked amazing. I love this for her. She's so at rock bottom, so it's like, Where does she go next? Justin Trudeau. Canada. There's only one place to go, North. I like it.

The thing is, to me, I don't ship, but they make so much sense.

You know they both have the worst personalities.

I think they'll be together forever.

Yeah, no, I'm telling you, it's good. And she look great.

I'm sure he's obsessed with her because she's so fabulous. She's obsessed with him because- Because he's smart. Yeah, he's just like... They see each other. I think they'll be together forever.

Yeah, and I'm here for it.

I'm not here for it, but I won't stand in their way.

No, I really like it.

It's just funny to me. They just make me chuckle.

Then was Satya on the podcast when we talked about that?

Yeah, I think so.

Just about how skinny she is. I'm so jealous.

Yeah, she is really slender.

I'm getting bigger by the second. I'm bigger than I was when we started this podcast episode.

Yeah, she's quite slender.

No, Claudia, you're not getting bigger. You look amazing.

I was going to say it's because you're drinking a lot of water.

For sure.

It's the water. You're retaining water.

I'm carrying a lot of water weight.

Yeah, speaking of.

Got to stop drinking water.

No, that's so good for you.

What was the story? Oh, yeah. They were at the baseball game. So regular. Not Harry being an American. They don't even have baseball abroad. So he was probably so confused. Be like, When I play cricket... Okay.

Yeah. But no, this is what they should do.

Yeah. They're great seats.

Yeah, they match, and it's all good. Cute. Cute. Are you ready for our next story, which is some more sports news? Sports, celeb, relationship, swirly news. The real reason Taylor Swift is going under the radar at Travis's Games has emerged.

Because she was just at the most recent one. I saw a picture of the back of her. She looked so cute.

Yeah, she was in the box. You could see her on TV in her box, but we didn't get the walk. We didn't get nothing. So Taylor Swift is reportedly keeping a low profile at her fiancé's games because of security concerns. According to the Daily Mail, she, has wanted to feel much more protected this year with her security, especially with her current stalker issues. A source told the outlet on Tuesday that she doesn't want her whereabouts to be known every minute of the day because she wants to be safe and she wants her family and friends to be safe. Additionally, he was not having the best season the first few weeks. With all this in mind, she reportedly made a little more natural progression toward being less out there and attracting attention.

Okay, so I think it's more the second than the first, because obviously, security is eternally a concern for Taylor Swift. And yes, it has escalated a little bit with that freaky guy going missing, but I don't think it would make her change that much. They always have their head on a swivel for this guy and all guys, and she has her armored vehicles, and she only goes to games at the Chief Stadium because they can accommodate her security needs. So I think more so, it's not good to make a big spectacle of yourself and then your husband's sticking it up. Big time. It's awkward when you get home. I think it more so is like, let's just be low-key. You crush it. I'll just be there. It's good. It draws more attention to his flop when she's there in her big paparazzi moment.

Yeah, no, it starts to give Jessica Simpson.

Yeah. Oh, right. Then, of course, everybody blames her.

But no one is blaming her. They're not. Especially because they were together last season. He didn't play well, but the team played well. You made it to the Super Bowl.

When they first started dating, and it was a We're now we're all just used to it, but when they would step out and it would be insane. And literally Travis was overnight the biggest, most famous person in the world. It did not affect how he played. He played better than ever. So I think it called off people to be like, She's cursing him. And now it's two years in.

So if he's playing that, that really- If he's playing that, that's on him. Right.

It has nothing to do with her. So she did escape that.

Yeah. I feel like, also, you can't be at that level of every game all the time. It's exhausting. So I I feel like they're just settling into what regular life looks like for them.

She does get dressed up anyways, but sometimes you just want to wear leggings.

Yeah. Well, she could wear leggings. That's football father.

Yeah, but she's wearing her big boots.

She is still wearing high heels.

Right. I would have thought maybe she just wants to go to her boyfriend's game and wear leggings, but she's still getting dressed up even when she's not doing the whole Kit and Kaboodle media thing.

Or she's still hiding to make it seem like she wasn't hiding because of plastic surgery.

Maybe she's committing to the bit. Yeah, I like that. That's the best theory you've thrown out this far. Yeah, we'll see.

If she continues this forever, I'll take it back.

Yeah. But if it's a couple more games just till the filler settles.

No, but it's like the filler has settled, but now she can't look like- If she came back, it would be so obvious.

Well, your stalker is still at large, so why are you back?

Right. She's got see this thing through.

Yeah. I just know, obviously, it must be so terrifying, the multiple stalkers that she has and the level of freaky that they are. But I just know she sleeps better at night ever since she's been with Travis. Maddie Healey was not helping you in the middle of the night at all. Oh, my God. I was just watching this show where somebody gets broken in in the middle of the night. They shake the wife, and they were like, Someone's here. Then he grabbed his gun and went downstairs. It got me thinking, let's say there was a God forbid, God forbid, Chhosa Shalam a million times. I could break it in my house. I feel like I would go.

Yeah. Except you actually wouldn't.

I would be so afraid You actually wouldn't, but I understand.

Yeah.

I just don't trust that Ben would handle it in the right way.

Yeah.

He would also be afraid. He'd be like, No, I'm not going. He'd be like, No, I'm not going. I'll ask him that. He's coming on the toast on Friday for Toaster Ween.

Friday.

You bitches aren't ready for Toaster Ween. I'm really excited. I sent Jackie a video of Ben's costume. Of course, he's playing a woman. That's all the clues I'm going to give you.

I'm so excited. Yeah, that's going to be really fantastic.

It might be one of our best yet, which makes you upset because you're not going to be here.

Well, it makes me excited to just enjoy it.

Yeah, as a viewer.

Halloween and the theatrics that it entails takes really a lot out of me. I don't know if I have what it takes to put on the performance that would be needed right now.

But I do have an idea for who you could be in our roleplay. Maybe you could just record a video.

Okay, cool.

Yeah.

Cool. Keep let me know.

Do you know who you are?

I think I know. Yeah.

That's so you.

So It's so you. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

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Our fifth and final story, dancing with the Stars. Halloween night, last night, a shocking elimination, an injury. A contestant carried out, went to the hospital. Two contestants went to the hospital this week.

Let's- Who else?

Dylan. Dylan. Dylan and Elaine.

So we'll go. Let's just- In order of the dances. Halloween theme, so cute, so fun. I saw a lot of hate for Sheryl Burke. I thought she was an excellent judge.

I thought so, too.

Maybe- Everyone was like, She's so harsh. She's so harsh. Well, first of all, If anyone's allowed to be harsh, it's her. She has walked the walk and talked to the talk. She's been on that stage many times. She has won many times. But I also found sometimes when the judges give critiques, I'm not doubting that they're right. I have no idea what they're talking about. I felt like Sheryl, actually, I knew what she was talking about. She was speaking English to me.

Yeah, I thought she was a good judge. I would say to Dancing with the Stars, Turn the lights on, please. I can't see anything. Of course, it was Halloween night, so they wanted things to be moody. But I say this all the time. Certain people, when they have a moody dance, they turn the lights on, okay? I'm here to watch the technique. It's hard enough with the skirts and the angles. Turn the garish darn lights on. There were some people where I was like, What a shame. This looks like a beautiful dance, but I can't see.

Right. No, that's a valid criticism, I think.

Especially to the pros, they should make sure that the lights are being kept on.

Then that monster dance-athon at the end was so stupid.

That was a real low point.

It was a low point.

It was getting grease, right?

Yes. That's a thing. People do it for charity. It's like a dance-athon. I thought Alex should have won, but other than that, everyone else looked really genuinely stupid.

No, it was really stupid until the end when it was just the two couples dancing, and I could really focus on what they were trying to do here, and I enjoyed that, but that was very odd. Let's go in order of dances. Halloween Night, Dancing with the Stars. First, Whitney, Levet, and Mark Ballas, they did a Beetlejuice thing. They got 37 out of 40.

She was out of sync again.

She goes fast. She has a fast going problem.

She gets so much hate online, and I don't agree with any of it. Sorry, she's doing the hardest dances and is the best dancer. That's just unfortunate that you don't like her, but that's a truth you can't hide from. I did feel like in her packages, she's like, now we're getting to the point in the show where people are just saying stuff. Do you know what I mean? To make some connection to the dance. I feel like she's just not being herself. That's what Carian actually gave her good feedback, which is just chill. She's taking it so seriously, and that's great. But I feel like she's not having fun. She's so hard on herself. Just chill. You're going to win. Just chill.

I don't think she's going to win, actually. I feel like the hate is getting to her. Even when I look on Twitter at the end of the night, there's so much hate for her. They wanted her to go home last night. This girl is the best dancer. It's absurd. If she doesn't have a lot of fans on her side, she's not going to win. So she has to dance even harder. And she is a perfectionist, a crazy person. That's who she is. That is her being herself. So I actually appreciate that she just owns it, and it's like, Yeah, I'm crazy. I'm crazy, and we're going to dance hard.

Yeah. But then I think it makes her mess up a little bit, the tempo.

Yeah, but it's also like when you get nervous, you go fast. You talk fast, you sing fast. It's just that's her thing. That's her... She's not perfect. Achilles heel. Yeah. So I feel for her because she is getting a lot of hate. It's so unwarranted. Why? Because she is a good dancer, because she has experience. And also, they just don't like her. We watch a show. I feel like a lot of the people who don't like her on Dancing with the Stars don't watch Secret Lives, right?

Yeah, right.

And it's like, yeah, she's the villain on her show, but it's a show. Calm down.

She's also not the villain anymore.

But it's a show. Like, grow up. This is a different show. It's called Compartmentalization.

All the swirlies were in attendance. I saw Jessie, Laila, Macy. They were in the ballroom, which is fun.

I feel like they were filming their show in LA this week, and everyone came out. I feel like it was dramatic, and both girls had a bad week. Not because they were filming, but whatever transpires on Slamu this week. We'll see, they were not okay. The Roman wives were not okay last night.

I think also up until this point, they've both been filming dancing with the stars while being full-time moms and content creators. Then I think this week, the show came to LA, and they had to also film the Hulu show. I think with that added responsibility on top of what our full plate, I think it broke them both in terms of responsibilities and time management.

Yeah, because Whitney, you could see, had broken down a little bit. She tried to explain that she's not doing her best, but then, of course, she gets hate like, Oh, you can't do two reality shows.

Where she doesn't want to say, I'm struggling, because then it's like, Well, you're not grateful.

No, and it's like, Oh, you have to make content and film two shows. What about the coal miners? It's like, two things can be true. Both can be hard. This can be true. They're both like moms. It is a lot.

It's insane.

I think it was a hard week for her, but she danced great, and she's a good dancer. She'll be okay. Jordan Childs and Esra Sosa, they got 34 out of 40. They danced to Elastic Heart. I thought it was a good dance.

Oh, I didn't. I thought that harness thing was really stupid. Jordan is the type of dancer who doesn't need silly props like that. Carianne was right. Unless the prop is executed perfectly, it just becomes a distraction. Then up until the point where they ripped the rope off and she was no longer harnessed, it was bad and stupid.

I didn't realize it was bad and stupid until they said that.

It was bad and stupid.

If they had given her all 10s, I might have been like, Yeah, that was really something.

Yeah, right. I just do whatever the judge has told me to do.

Next, Andy and Emma, 28 out of 40, they dance to, what was it, Beethoven?

It was fucking funny. Once again, Every week, I'm like, Okay, this is the week. Andy's going home. But you know what? Actually, me and Ben were like, he was doing a good job. I feel like his dance was technically a little bit harder. He aced the footwork. Obviously, he's not the hardest or best dance as anybody else. But once again, he continues to improve. He continued to make me chuckle. I was sufficiently entertained. I'm sorry, I voted for him 10 fucking times. Yeah.

Who'd you vote for last night? Just Andy. I voted for Andy.

Oh, and Alex.

I think Elaine, I voted for. I wasn't going to because I was like, This isn't fair. But then I actually liked her dance.

I didn't vote for Elaine because... I'm sorry. I think you should go home if you don't perform at the show.

No, I was ready to be like, no. But I don't know, like something in her dance, she just won me over. And I'm like, wait, she has to say.

To be clear, I love Elaine, and I want her to go far. But I think it's just for me, the baseline is you have to be at the show to get to the next round.

Or they should have just pushed her through, not shown any of her dance, and just been like, She'll go on to the next week.

Yes. But her technically competing against Jen and then Jen going home, that's bullshit.

Yeah, but it's not because we'll get to Jen. Andy and Emma, I don't want them to go home ever. I know any week he could go home, but that's just not interesting to me, him going home.

No. And then there's It's like a fan theory that Andy's being held there against his will. I am actually glad he addressed that head-on.

Yeah. No, I feel like a lot of them, it's like they're having fun. No one wants to go home, but it's like, When this ends, I'll be happy. And he's saying he doesn't feel that way. I'm going to trust him.

I can't wait to see him on the cover of People magazine because he's definitely lost weight. He was looking trim last night in his black priest get up.

Yeah, he was. Then Elaine and Allen, they got 32 out of 40 using a rehearsal footage. It would have been good.

Yeah, whatever.

Next, Danielle Fishel and Pasha, 33 out of 40.

What did she do again? I'm sorry, this is going to be really mean, but I feel like recently, she's just extremely forgettable.

Yeah, she's very mid.

Not bad or good.

In any given episode, it's between her going home at this point, Andy, Elaine, and Jen. Now, we'll get through these next four eliminations. Those are the next couples to go home. It's just like, we have the top tier and then the bottom tier. She is now in the bottom tier. That's all it is. But she's having fun. She's a nice lady. She's so cute and sweet. But it doesn't get the crowd going, me being in the crowd. No.

Also, Carianne and Derek, the girls were fighting last night. I feel like actually Derek was frustrated. I didn't even notice, I guess, every time it was time for him to talk, Carianne had went on a little long, and that cuts into his time. So he was like, I'm getting no time to speak tonight. That's just not Kari Ann's problem. Sorry, I didn't care.

Show us one less gimmicky package. Cure act. Everyone can talk a little longer.

Right.

Next, Robert Irwin and Whitney Carson.

Oh, his was good with the blood on his face. Yeah, he's a winner.

She's a winner.

Yeah.

She's a winner.

I like how you refuse to let me give him a compliment ever. You're always like, Well, it's her.

Well, because she's just so good. It's I'm sad for him that I don't even see him because I'm just like, she's just holding the whole thing together.

But you know what? I actually feel like his strength is that you don't look at him because in ballroom dance, it's very traditional. You're not supposed to see the guy.

His strength is that you don't look at him. I agree. And her strength is that she's drawing all eyes to her. The star.

Yeah. It's perfect. He's definitely top four.

Oh, for sure. And the show loves him. I've been learning more about the show dynamics because now my algorithm knows that I'm watching the Dance with the Stars, so I get served. Oh, yeah.

I saw a recap that was the dating history of the entire crew.

I get served stuff from the history. I get served a lot of the old dance with best moments, which I love to see, and it It was to show you how good it could be, so everyone's step it up. But apparently, Robert and Whitney are like, that's who ABC would want to win this season. They are Like, favored. The Urban family just has a very close relationship with dancing with the stars. If they rigged it- A global audience. If they rigged it, that's who they would want to win. Got it. Just keeping that in mind. That is important. They get good... They just get the goods.

Yeah.

Next. Oh, Jen and Yahn, they got 32 out of 40. They dance to Look what You Made Me Do.

Okay. Now, I say this, I don't know much about ballroom dance, but I know what I saw was so fine. I didn't understand the immediate critiques. Let's not even acknowledge the fact that she's postpartum and nobody gives her any fucking grace. Just face value. It was so fine. I don't even know what the critiques were. They couldn't even just say it was good. Now, let's give a little bit of context. Kari Ann is always talking about how Elaine's age is so inspiring and it's all great for her age. Well, it's like, okay, that's a caveat. Where's Jen?

Yeah. She only gave birth eight weeks ago. Jen got the same score as Elaine. It's absurd. Yeah.

I could tell. I know she thought she did a good job. I also think the judges don't like Jan. She thought she did a good job, and the second they started critiquing her, she was fucking done. I'm glad she went home. I could actually see a world in which she had asked to be sent home because obviously, she's not a winner. Like you said, there's three or four people who are going to go home, and then it's going to be who of the top five, six makes- Five.

There's There's five couples in contention.

Jordan, Dylan, Whitney, Alex, and- Robert. Robert. So, yeah, the other three, it's like, Well, who's going home first? So I actually could have seen her saying, This is no longer worth me spending so much time away from my family. This is not bringing me joy. Please let me go home. And I could see them being like, Sure. It's either you this week or next week.

No, I feel like she told the audience that with her face. Usually, she's up in the box like, Yay, vote. And she didn't smile with teeth at all after Where she danced. Everything was like a subdued smile. She was defeated. This was the first week I did not vote for her because I did not think she wanted me to vote for her.

I could tell the second they started speaking, she just turned off. Turned off. Yeah. You know what? I'm glad she's going home. This is not a good use of her time anymore, especially if it's time away from her family.

Did you see her post-show interview with Yahn, where she said she's moving to LA?

Moving to LA.

No. No, don't do it.

I'm glad that her and Yahn have a good relationship because there's been a lot of criticism about him being paired up with her.

Did you talk about Max?

I think I did, but let's talk about it now. Max Schermen-Klausky. Yeah. He's like an OG retired pro.

Yeah. He has a podcast with his wife, who's also a retired pro. He said that Jan has no business being a pro and that he's not- It's offensive. He's not like, coaching. He went really hard. He went really I would just say it's just not fair when anyone's a first-season pro to make up these dances.

How do we ever expect new pros to get- Right, but it's not like there's something wrong with Jan in particular, but it's like, they should get some better training so that they could operate and give to their star what pros like Val and Whitney are able to give. I think in your first one or two seasons, you should be paired with somebody who needs a little less coaching. Like, Whitney and Jen should have had swapped partners. A woman like Jen who is so freshly postpartum and is doing this on such a whim should be with a Mark Balish. Like, someone who's just experienced and crushes it.

Yeah, or even Pasha.

Literally anyone else. Pasha. Pasha.

What about Pasha?

So I thought her dance was good. I didn't know what the hub was about, but you know what? I'm glad that she's waking up and not going to I'm nervous today.

Yeah, and I am worried about her, and I've been worried about her, and I think I was onto something. Yeah. I know people thought I was projecting, but- No. I was just putting myself in her shoes. No. I have to stop projecting.

I don't think so. Then the last dance was Alex, right?

Well, no, two more. Alex and Val. They got the best score of the night, 39 out of 40. It was a good night for Alex.

We've been saying that she needs a breakthrough moment, and she finally had it. I thought her dance was amazing. She took it so seriously. I respect how much she is She's dedicated to doing this and doing it well. I think now she's a real contender for Whitney. I do think Alex really could win because she does have the fans. She's improving. Whitney's just been good the whole time. If anything, she's just slipping a little bit now. Alex has gotten better and better and better and better. I think this week was really important for her. I do have one criticism, and I know that she didn't get great scores for her Wicked Dance because they said it wasn't technically difficult. But I just loved Alex. It's this young, hot thing. All her dances are so dark and moody, physically dark, but also visually dark. And I liked popular because it was fun and bright and TikToky. I'm like, That's Alex. I need Alex to do a little bit more of that for her.

But I think also when she does things that are obvious, even when they did Disney night, you would expect her to be Cinderella. And she's Maleficent because she doesn't want to just do what's so obvious and corny. But I like it. Sometimes things are cliché for a reason. So give Give us the goods. Give us just one full Barbie moment, please.

Yes, exactly. She crushed it. I love her. I voted for her and Andy.

I don't know why I didn't vote for her. I guess I did.

I think she should have won that stupid Monster Mash thing. I think she was still at the top of the leaderboard, so it didn't matter. But she should have won that. Hers was better.

Yeah. Who could know who's this better? I didn't know where to look.

At this exact moment, she is my prediction for the winner.

Wow. Our last dance was Dylan and Daniela. They got 35 out of 40. Dylan broke his nose. She danced blindfolded. I thought it was a really good dance, but you said it wasn't.

I did not like it at all.

I thought it was really compelling. She's such a good dancer. She's so intense.

Yeah, and she's really good with her partners. She brings out the best in her partners.

I've been seeing a lot of her and Iman Schumpert.

Me, too. Well, they won, which was a huge upset.

Yeah. That's because she's an amazing pro and the choreographs amazing dances.

Now, people are not going to like what I have to say, and I'm going to say it anyway. I have a really hard time believing that these two are not falling in love. I don't know if they've stepped out and taken that next leap yet. But it's always weird how much the pros hug and kiss one another when they're getting their scores or whatever. And these two have stopped touching each other, almost in an attempt to throw us off. But it's making me more suspicious how not touchy they are. It's like, Well, everybody else is touching because nobody else has anything to hide. I'm sorry.

And you guys used to touch.

Yeah, right. I thought his dance was bad.

You like him?

I don't like him. I don't. I do not like him. And that picture they put up of him in the ocean did not help.

That was weird. Derek Huff almost shaving his head on live television was weird.

Yeah. So they used it as an opportunity. There must be some synergy with People magazine, but both Dylan Efron and Derek Huff won their categories for people's sexiest tattoo person, tattooist. Derek was over 40, or the 40 or the 40-year-old sexy.

Dylan was tattoos.

Yeah, and that's why everybody's saying, Why did they show that picture of him with his ass up in the ocean? You couldn't even see his tattoos. His arms were underwater.

Oh, I'm cracking up. I know. People magazine is so funny. Sma will always be the best thing ever.

Sm, motherfucking A.

That was weird. There was a lot going on in last night's episode. But you know what? I think as there are less participants, they fill the 2 hours more. That's what, eight minutes that we lose of a package?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we get to a point where everybody dances twice.

Cool.

That's really hard on the dancer. I'm actually glad Jen left. She couldn't handle that.

What about longer dances?

No, they do two.

I'm interested to see that.

I don't know if they do this concept for a week, but you know what they should do? Partner swap. That would be interesting.

It would be. But I think that goes against your team.

Just giving them ideas.

That would be Travis playing for the bills.

Did they say what next week is? Rock and roll Hall of Fame.

Is that what they said?

Yeah. And then they said Rock and roll Hall of Fame or Flavor Flave is the guest judge. She said Rock and roll Hall of Fame. I was like, Is it going to be Brett Michael's? Is it going to be Steven Tyler? Flavor Flave.

What I also liked about this episode, it felt like most of the participants were doing the same style of dance, and I felt like I was really able to judge- It's fair. Fairly of contemporary spooky dances.

Yeah, contemporary and spooky. I think rock and roll is going to be also more like darkness and hard. You're saying not like, jive? Where's the Barbie theme?

Give Alex the Barbie theme.

Yeah, so right now, she's my prediction for winner.

Who do you think will be top four? I feel like the fourth spot is going to be Whitney, Alex, and- Steve. Robert. Then the fourth spot is between Jordan and Dylan.

I think Jordan gets it. But that's just because I'm blinded by my dislike.

I just feel like he has a lot of... I feel like there's a lot of fanfare for him. No, there is.

People are obsessed with him, so I get hate for my takes, but sorry, my takes are my takes.

But she is a better dancer.

Then who?

Him.

Well, yes, she's the pro. I thought you meant Daniella. I'm like, Well, that's the point of the show. Are you new here? I am, actually. Jordan.

Jordan is pulling 10.

He's not pulling 10. Yes. No, sorry.

He's fifth. I do feel like he's maxed out on his growth potential.

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