Transcript of Gabbin' Gals with Ben Soffer: Wednesday, November 5th, 2025

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What day is it? Wednesday.

Oh my God. It's It's Hump Day. I'm all for clemed because we are recording from Florida. My co-host is my husband. My rose is also my husband. Hey, Ben. How are you doing?

I'm doing wonderful, my sweet pea. How are you?

Why don't you move the microphone to your mouth? That's what-They can hear me. That's what You're talking to the microphone.

They can hear me. You're talking to the microphone.

Wow, it started early. Why don't you just move the microphone close to your mouth? It started early.

Okay.

Or sit, and then the microphone goes like... When you're doing a podcast, you're supposed to talk into the microphone. I don't know if you know that because you're new to the podcasting game. Move the microphone back. Pull it We were totally fine. No, no. Why is it so far away from you?

Could you be more annoying? We were literally fine.

You're talking into it? You're good? Look how close it is to my mouth. How's that? But you do not want the Rath of the Toaster. How's that? Just ask Mary Orton, you do not want the Rath of the Toaster's coming after you because you've not spoken into the mic correctly. Just have a seriously. How's that? It's good. Thank you. You're welcome to the Toaster's. Hey, Ben, this is your first time co-hosting since Jack is maternity leave. You were here, but in character on Friday. I was, yes. Let's talk about Halloween.

What a beautiful day Halloween is on the toast. Wow. It really is just a day of fun.

Oh, my God. Okay.

It's a day of laughter. Yes. It's a day of gals being gals.

And you're one of the gals.

Gabbing with the gals.

If you had a podcast, would you call it Gabbing with the Gals?

I would call it Gabben with the Gals.

Or you call it Good Guys.

It would be me and Joey Kamasta.

Yeah. Well, after you came on the toast and Joey Kamasta came on the toast, there's a lot of fanfare for you and Joey to do some cooking show or some project.

I love Mr. Kamasta. Joey is not only... Just like... He's so amazing, but he's also so underappreciated. And I'm very thankful to you for platforming him because Joey deserves the world.

Okay, you're being really nice this morning. Right? Yeah. What do you want?

What do you want? What do you want? What do you want? What do you want? What do you want? What do you want to be at the mic?

Oh, you want to go to the golf today? Oh, you want to go to the golf today? Is that what it is?

I'm going to kill you with kindness. And all I have to say is Dave Portner, you let a real one go.

Joey, go. Joey, left.

Dave Portnoy, you didn't pony up enough cash to keep a real one.

Joey, I agree, is such a star. I love having him on the toast because I agree. Platforming him is my life's mission. He's so funny.

He's so funny. He's fantastic. And me and Joey have cooked together before. So if you guys haven't seen that, just scroll deep in my Instagram and look for a gorgeous-But people aren't asking you and Joey to cook together once.

They want a show, a cooking podcast, something. Understood. Would it be called Gabbing with the Gals?

Probably not.

Grillin' with the Gals?

Grillin' with the Gals is good.

Because you are trans, and so is Joey. You have to do something with the gals. We are trans. Joey has said he has T scars. We are trans. He had top surgery, and you're always dressing like a woman.

I am. I'm a cross-dresser. I've been cross-dressing since I was a young man, 13 years old. Oh, that's true. You remember that? My mom sent us that photo that also gave us both a jump scare.

Ben's mom found these old pictures, and it was either like Purum or Halloween from when you were what? Thirteen. Thirteen. Dressed as a woman. The thing is, you have passions.

The thing is, I'm going to dress like a woman. We know. One, it's funny. Two, it's freeing. And three... Oh, wow.

Freeing. Okay. I thought we were joking, but you're being weirdly serious.

It's funny. It's freeing. That said, the long hair, my God, it's so hot and itchy. I know. It's terrible. Anything on my face, the makeup that you do, horrible. It feels terrible.

You don't really have what it takes to be a woman.

I only have what it takes to be a 70 20-year-old Irish woman. Yeah.

Named you Vajanaia.

Named me Vajanaia. That is really who I want to be. And until I can be that, I'm not really going to be myself.

Now, for anyone who's new here, Ben is my husband. He's the host of The Good Guys podcast founder and CEO of SpritzSociety. Com. Chef to the stars. What else are you? That was pretty good. Yeah. And he's one of my favorite co-hosts. I'm so glad you're here. We tailored the stories a little bit today to things that you, maybe I wouldn't normally choose, but you have a wide array of interests, and I you to be intrigued. Ben and I did watch dancing with the stars last night.

We did. I'm an avid watcher.

We were obviously a little bit distracted because just the horrible news. Oh, and we're in Florida, by the way. I don't know if I said that. I don't know if you guys can tell from the studio. I've never been more happy to not be in New York than we were last night. Totally. So the second I have of dancing with the stars, I fell to the back burner because we were busy watching the news.

Talking to your mic. You're talking over your mic. So I don't know if the toaster is like... I don't know if your audio comes out of your neck. But this is literally how you were talking. Thank you, by the And so I would highly recommend talking into your mic.

I'm not going to be disgusting like you. Thank you for the tip. I appreciate it because I care about the audio quality of this show. Very good. Thank you so much. And by the way, do let me know if it happens again. I would appreciate the feedback.

This was very like those cancer commercials.

No, the smoking commercials.

Nothing will ever be the same again.

It's actually not funny.

No, those were not funny. They scared me straight.

No, they didn't. No, because I had a severe vape addiction. Let's talk about that. Okay. It has been almost two years.

I was going to say credit to you for going cold turkey. Thank you. Nobody really... I think that you are the only person in the world that was addicted to a vape. One day said, I don't want to smoke that vape anymore, and just didn't.

Well, it wasn't that easy. I'll say that, but also- You made it look easy. Let's talk about the day I quit the vape. Do you remember? We were in Utah. It was January first, right? And we went out for lunch. Do you remember that at all?

Oh, my God, you were so So mean.

Yeah, it really makes you irritable. I will say it only lasted a few days, but that day one where I was just really itching for it and couldn't take it, and I literally thrown them all away. I was in a really foul mood.

You had borderline Tourette's. It was like having a conversation. You just be like, Fuck you. Yeah. You're like, Fucking asshole fat fuck. Fuck you. Fuck you. And it's like, okay, I get it. I get it. I'm joking. That's exactly-Yeah. No, it was so weird. It was just like, it's beautiful out. It's snowing, but you'd be like, Oh, my God! The snow is falling. I'm like, No, I didn't need that. 100%.

Yeah, it was bad. But I will say it only lasted two days. Yeah. We went out to lunch and I was just insatiable, and I ate a lot. It was horrible.

It was a horrible day.

It was a horrible day. But we have-We've cleansed. We've cleansed and we've moved past it. You've cleansed. How does it feel to not have a wife who's a vapor anymore? I feel like we don't talk enough. I've recently been bringing it up because now that I'm not pregnant, I can vape, but I choose not to. And I just feel like I actually don't give myself enough credit for quitting the vape. No.

Kudos to you.

Thank you.

I'm happy that you don't do it anymore for Rupee's sake.

Of course. But also for the sake of my fellow peers. Sure. My lungs.

Sure.

I'm not getting in trouble at restaurants anymore.

No, but that's like, restaurants need to chill.

Oh my God. Airlines need to chill. I completely agree.

All these people need to chill. It's so not a big deal.

I completely agree. It's not a big deal. I completely agree.

That's it. I completely agree. Focus on things that matter.

I completely agree.

Focus on things that matter.

I completely agree.

Everybody's crashing. All these airlines, there's so many problems. You're worried about my vape?

I completely fucking agree.

It literally smells like shit everywhere. People need to stop farting on planes. Nonstop. Do you I agree. People are just shitting themselves on planes. Also, people need to stop reclining on planes.

I agree. And that's a controversial take because I talk to Brian about it all the time. I don't believe in reclining on planes. I think it's the most evil thing you can do.

You absolutely can't. Unless you and the person in front of you have a mutual agreement that you're both going to recline.

No, but it's a domino effect because you can agree with the person in front of you, but what about the person in front of them?

There actually needs to be a reclining row.

That's what it is. No, there needs to be an airline for recliners.

Sorry, not row. There needs to be a reclining column. Rows, columns.

Column, yeah. Okay. Excel spreadsheet. Rows, columns.

Column A is the reclining row. Would you agree? The windows are recliners.

No. The thing is, it's just a different breed of human being, and you should be on different airlines. Yeah, I agree. I would go as far to say you should be in different countries. Sure.

It's insane. Sure. Reclining airline.

Recliningairline. Com. I love it.

I'll sign up. Actually, I won't because I don't like to recline.

I don't love it. What's going on with the good guys? Do you guys hear all the shit we talk about you, or you just tune us out?

I tune you out. Does Josh know?

Yeah, Definitely. And Josh knows it's a joke, right? Yeah, for sure. Okay.

Yeah, for sure. No, but it's always apparent when somebody comes up to us in the street and is like, Oh, my God, I'm such a fan of the good guys, and you give them a look. You just want to throw them.

It's a joke with us and the listeners, too. They come up and they're I'm a toaster, and I'm also a moron. Sorry, turdy. It's this fun thing we're all doing. No, no.

By the way, it's great.

We're joking.

And you're platforming.

We're platforming, right?

You can joke and be mean. That said, you're still talking about us. And let me tell... You okay? Yeah. Oh, I thought you had heartburn or something. How dramatic are you?

I was going to say something, and I like, punch my chest. I think we're meant to throw up.

That was the most dramatic thing I've ever seen.

I don't even remember what I was going to say now, but sorry.

The Good Guys is a wonderful podcast.

All right. I didn't come.

I didn't You're a platform to spew hate. You were asking how The Good Guys is. Yeah. How are you doing? That was what you said. We're doing great.

You've had some pretty big guests recently, David Dobrick.

We have John Stamos.

Oh, let's talk about that.

His episode made some headlines.

Well, of course, with the Laura Loughlin, I'm glad somebody came in and defended our girl. But I was talking more about Jen Affleck.

Yes. Jen Affleck, did I talk? Oh, yes, we did during the John Stamos episode.

Yeah, and she posted about it. Did you see? She did. Yes. She posted that John... Because John called her cute. Why were you guys talking about dancing with the stars?

Because it's current and happening.

You were doing Hot Topics with John Stame?

That's an excellent question. I have no idea why we were talking about that. John Stame?

Yeah, him and I are on a nickname basis ever since he posted me on his Instagram. Got it.

Well, he would love to come on the toast, I'm just saying.

Well, when I was in LA and I was going to be doing maternity leave there, which can we talk about how glad we are not to be there? Totally. I was definitely going to have John Stame. That's why I call him Stame. Yeah, big time Stame.

Yeah, BTS. What a great guy.

You love him. Yeah. What's he like in person? What's he like in person?

Just nice, cool.

Do you have any more interesting words than nice and cool?

No, because sometimes these celebrities are so narcissistic, and you meet them, and you're like, Oh, I can't wait to get away from you. They're awful. Yeah. John is not that. John was actually humble and cool, but super talented. Yeah. He does such a wide array of things. Yeah. He told this story. What's Olaf's name?

Josh Gad.

Josh Gad couldn't perform in Jesus Christ Superstar. Is that the name of the show?

Do you know the name of anything?

No, I don't. Big show. Okay. Huge show. And they called John.

On Broadway?

It wasn't on Broadway. It was somewhere else. From Wicked. What's her name?

Oh, my God. Cynthia Arevo.

Thank you. And I think that's all the people that I know that are in it. And they called him. They're like, Olaf dropped out. We need you, John. 24 hours noticed. He didn't know any of the lines to anything. He didn't know any of the words to the songs. Learned it, performed, crushed it. On a huge stage with Cynthia. Imagine singing with Cynthia the Aretho, when you don't even know the lyrics. If I closed my eyes, I wouldn't have even known it was you. I would have thought it was Synthony. Synthony? It's a symphony.

Can you do the Defying Gravity? Run? Let's hear it. What's a run?

Is that when I have too much French onion soup?

No. A run in vocal. I know you're not a singer like me. A vocal run is when you do like, You know, like a run. So the Defying Gravity run is like, Let me just take a mix. And cough again on the podcast, and you will find out what a boot up your ass feels like, okay? A boot? I'm wearing a loafer, okay? Okay. Okay, ready? Ben Loakey actually has a decent voice. You would never know because he's married. Let's hear it. What was that face you made? And what was with the shoulder? How was it? You looked like a fish. You looked like a fish. Stop it. Sorry. You looked like a fish, by the way. You were like this Benz. Ben, you were literally like... I'm not going to lie. I did just get the ick.

Was it good?

Oh, no. Sorry, I forgot to say that.

It was bad. It was bad. The ick is such an interesting thing to get.

What's your favorite song from Wicked? When we do have some Wicked News, which would be a good segue.

Wicked Good News. What? My favorite song from Wicked is probably Defying Gravity.

Basic.

It's so basic. I literally hate it. This is a huge pet peeve of mine.

Oh, God. Here we go. Okay.

When fans don't like the best song.

I don't disagree.

Like, oh, Taylor Swift's best song is one that nobody's ever heard of. No.

Well, it is. It's called Peace. But yeah.

Actually, it's not, because otherwise, more people would have heard it, and the streams would be higher.

Why are you talking to the microphone? Why don't you say that?

I am.

Why is this so far There. Okay, move it closer. Okay, if you're having a throat issue, do you maybe want to leave the room? I'll do the ads. This is really inappropriate.

I just have a small amount of post-nasal drip from the plane. Okay?

Sure. Blame the plane.

Do you know we have The Good Guys has a new sponsor, Zizal.

Was that huge for you?

Do you understand? That is so unbelievably cool.

Yeah, and you do the ad reads on Good Guys, yeah?

You need me to do your reads?

No, I don't.

I do a strong read.

I don't think the sponsors would appreciate some rogue random cross-dress are coming in.

He do a strong read.

You do. Actually, I have the great honor of... You do your ad rates at home on the Bluetooth microphones, and I have the great honor. You scream when you do the ads.

Of course, I get very into it.

This episode of The Good Guys. I know all your sponsors. Who? I don't want to say them because I'm loyal to my sponsors. I'm not going to be giving free shout-outs. I think we share a couple. To like, rogue brands that don't sponsor my podcast. Can we share a couple? We do. Definitely. Yeah, cool. So without further ado.

You okay?

It's time for the best five stories that you need to know.

So hot in here.

I'm actually not that hot.

Okay. Yeah, I'm kidding. Another pet peeve. I agree. Is there anything more annoying? Oh, no.

I completely fucking agree. We're full of pet peeves. I completely agree.

I'm hot. I'm not. Okay, so what do we do about it?

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Do you find yourself really susceptible to marketing? Oh, yeah. Yeah, every day something shows up at the house.

I get a new supplement. Anytime anybody says- Are you interested in everyday dose?

I could tell.

Yes. And also wild green.

Oh, are you not familiar?

I'm not familiar.

I didn't mean to put Olivia on the spot because a lot of times she makes her own stuff. But when we go to her house and she has those dinner rolls, they're wild green.

By the way, that's amazing to be able to bake fresh baked bread.

They have sourdough. They really have everything. That's huge. Under 25 minutes. I know.

It's such a pain in the ass. I didn't stop.

Let's talk about how you gave up.

You want to start my sourdough journey? You just gave up.

We haven't even talked about it personally. No.

So here's what happened. We went to Los Angeles, and I just- You didn't bring your starter with you. No, I left it in the fridge to die. I don't know if it's dead because I look at it and it's still there.

No, you can feed it.

So then I think it's okay. So then it's fine.

Yeah, but you just haven't made in a month.

I haven't made it in a while, but also we were in LA for a while.

We moved apartments.

We moved apartments. And the sourdough journey is one that really can only be done when your life is settled, okay? When your life is-Oh, do you feel unsett? I feel like we've been moving around a lot.

We have. Florida, LA, new apartment. Yeah.

Moving around a lot. So once we feel settled again, I will return to baking. My soul will return to the oven, just like my ancestors. Ben. Too far?

Yes. My bad. Not funny. Okay. Okay. First up, we have sexiest man alive. There's been a lot of hoopla about who the sexiest man alive is. It's me. It is, even though... Let's talk about how last year, they did sexiest podcast and they gave it to Josh and not you.

No, but we're a duo. Just give it to both.

It's so true. It was intentional. It felt anti-Semitic, even though Josh is Jewish. Totally. Well, the sexiest man of the year is... Jonathan Bailey. Now, I told Ben who that was. He said, Who That's what it looks like. Now you know it's Fierro. I know Fiero. Dancing through life.

I like Fierro.

Me too. He's extremely handsome. He's also from Bridgerton. I think this is a great selection. I often have a lot to say about who they choose. I think they're ugly or random. This is perfect. It also always to be chosen with someone in conjunction with them doing press. He's obviously getting ready for the Wicked Part 2, which comes out next week. Oh, we should see it while we're here.

I would love to. Is he British? Does he have an accent?

Yeah, he has an accent. Cool. The cover is hot. He's in water. It's a nice photo.

He's a good-looking guy.

Yeah. You like him?

I think that he's got a little bit of receding going on over here. Ben, you're one to talk. I got to introduce him to... What's his name? Dr. Diamond.

Do youBen had fancy plastic surgeon.

I'm pretty in with the doctors.

With Dr. Diamond on his podcast.

Dr. Dubrow, Dr. Diamond, the only doctor that we haven't been able to get. Please, if anybody is listening from TLC, Dr. Nizardin. All I want- You have to get Dr. Nizardin.

Is Dr..

Nizarden, so that I can talk about my 600 pound life, 2000 pound sisters, and like mine, Josh's dream to become 2000 pound sisters on a cruise.

That's what you should dress up for Halloween. 2000 pound sisters. You also need to get Dr. Steve Levine on your podcast because your episodes with Terry Dubrow are some of my favorite, mostly because Terry's so pro-Ozempic, and he's always talking about plastic surgery and stuff. He's great. I love him, and he's just a funny reality star. But you do need to get Dr. Steve Levine on your show. Do you know who that is? I don't know who that is. He's the doctor of the moment right now. I don't know if you saw, a couple of celebrities have come out with brand new faces, and they look insanely amazing. Chris Jenner.

Yes.

Lindsay Lohan. Yes.

It turns out- Mr. Levine.

They all went to the same doctor, and they've all been really open about it, and it's Dr. Steve Levine. Now, I hear Dr. Steve Levine has a years-long waitlist now. It's a quarter of a million dollars for a facelift. Yeah. It would be amazing if you get them on the podcast, maybe just because then I could get a facelift for free or something.

Yeah. Well, any of the doctors that I've worked with would love to work with you, but you don't need any work.

Thank you. That's the right answer.

The most gorgeous woman I've ever seen.

Also, speaking of facelifts and sexiest men, I don't know if we haven't spoken about this on The Toast, but Bradley Cooper has a new face.

I've seen that, and it's bad.

Yeah, it's crazy. We're always talking about botched women. Let's talk about the botched man. Bradley Cooper looks nuts. And he was at one point the I'm sure he's been people sexy as man. He is arguably the most good-looking man in the last 20 years. He's like a Brad Pitt, George Clooney level.

It's so funny that I never even thought. He looks terrible. That that's what it was because I've looked at him and I'm like, You don't look the same, Mr. Cooper.

No, he had his face pulled back, and it doesn't look good. He looks like an old woman.

It looks horrible. It looks horrible. Sorry, Mr. Cooper.

But I think this is a great choice for... I feel like every year, whoever they choose, it's so divisive and everyone's always like, clouding. I feel like everybody likes this. I have no notes.

No, who doesn't like Wicked? Picking somebody from Wicked was a layup, okay?

It's so true. And he was really popular before because he was in Bridgerton, and he was the sexy lead. And there's, I burn for you. And it would not be enough. He's a lot of famous.

I wish I saw that show.

You didn't?

No, you watched it without me.

Well, I'm sorry.

You watched so many good ones without me. The only one that I- Why do you try being home?

You're always golfing or going to the nick game. Sorry, I have to do something while you're gone.

You're literally watching Bridgerton at noon on a Wednesday. What do you want from me? It's my job. Yeah. Also, I am watching a show that you're not watching, and you're missing out.

Wait, We also need to talk about Wayward.

The best show ever.

Ben and I just finished Wayward Season 1 on Netflix. You probably haven't heard of it. It was not popular. I literally... We stumbled upon it. It stars Tony Colette, Queen, and it's a cult show. It's amazing.

Amazing show. That said, I'm watching Severance alone, and let me tell you, this show, severed my brain.

Ben started Severance on the plane, and he comes home, and he's like, Have you heard of this random indie little show called Severance?

I did not say that.

Yeah, you did. He keeps calling it his plane show, which is confusing people because people think it's lost, like a show about a plane.

It is my Plane Show. Yeah, exactly. I'll watch it on United. Even though I really shouldn't be flying United.

Ben had a trigger.

Sorry, mic down. Sorry, she messed with her mic.

Ben had a triggering not a triggering, but a really weird experience on a United flight. Do you want to tell that story?

Yeah, I landed from Los Angeles. Oh, yeah. We flew home separately. We flew home separately. And all of a sudden, it was a beautiful flight. Pargy. I watched my severance. I had a great time, except the guy next to me was in a LA flight the entire time, and I couldn't go to the bathroom.

Oh, because he had his legs out the whole time.

He had his legs out the whole time. But other than that, it was really a wonderful flight. And all of a sudden, we land, and The stewardess comes on and she says, Hello, everybody. Welcome to New York. You never would have known it, but two female pilots flew this plane. Isn't that amazing? What are you nuts?

Why do you think it's nuts?

First of all, it completely pushes back the movement to have to tell me that two women successfully flying a plane. Why is it a big deal? On autopilot, by the way, is a big deal. It's not a big deal. I agree.

Making it a big deal is sexist.

It is 100%. She thought that she was advancing. She thought it was a slay. She thought she was doing something there, and she wasn't. The second is, if I had any issues with the flight, then I would have blamed the women. It's so true. It was a great flight, but I'm also smart enough to know that a flight from Los Angeles to New York is literally autopilot.

I'm sorry, what was that?

Autopilot. And then, Undo autopilot and land. Land.

I love that. Ben, obviously, this was a huge loss for you not being people's sexiest man alive, but there is always next year. Yes.

Well, how do I submit? Can somebody submit me?

You got to just put some nude photos out on the internet. Nude. I think maybe... Do they need nudes? I think we need... What?

Sex tape? Yeah. I'm in.

Yeah, I know you are. Now, Okay.

Want to do it now? Yeah.

We're in a studio. All right, calm down, Ben. Keep your shirt on. We are going to do Dancing with the Stars, but in case anybody doesn't watch or I don't want to spoil it, it'll be the fifth story. So just want to say that.

But by the way, if you don't watch, you're really missing out on some clean family fun.

It's so true. It's family fun. I mean, literally, I think they have 10 million viewers a week.

You're missing out on clean family fun. Clean family. Clean family fun. And Carlton from Fresh Prince is the host. And it's clean family fun.

So speaking of family, David Beckham has been nighted by King Charles, and Victoria Beckham has also gotten a posh new name. Sir David Beckham, he was nighted by King Charles III during an investiture ceremony at Windsor Castle on Tuesday. His wife, Victoria, who was also in attendance at the ceremony, got a new title. She's Lady Beckham. He is Sir David Beckham. They both posted on Instagram. He said, I've obviously been very lucky in my career to have won what I've won and done what I've done. But to receive an honor like this of a night is beyond anything I've ever thought that I would receive. To be honest, a young boy from the east end of London, born in Laten Stone, and here at Windsor Castle, being honored by His Majesty the King, the most important and most respected institution in the world, it's quite a moment. And the Victoria made the suit that he wore to accept the honor because she's a clothing designer.

Are you done?

Yeah, there's more. His parents were in attendance. It's really cute. I could not love these two more. A fun fact about David Beckham is he's obsessed with the royal family, like when Queen Elizabeth most recently died. A part of the ceremony in the UK is they put her coffin in a big palace, and people come from all over the world. They wait in line. He literally, and he could have cut the line. He waited in line for seven hours just to literally stand by her coffin and pay his respects and bow and leave. There were pictures of him, people being like, Is that David Beckham? So this must be the biggest fucking deal.

So then it's really nice that he got it, because what I was going to say, first of all, Beckham, big fan and also big-time Jew.

Jewish king, yes. So proud. So proud. He's so proud.

And we love accomplished, great, non-controversial, proud Jews.

We also don't have a lot of athletes. No. To have a big-time athlete, that's huge for us. Huge for us. We have lots of writers and comedians.

So many writers.

But not a lot of athletes. Not a lot of athletes. That's huge.

I was going to say that I just feel like sometimes they just night. I don't know why they're nighting random people. Sometimes-oh, that's actually funny.

I I don't agree. I feel like it's not something... Yeah, sometimes you can get it, and then it's like everyone's...

I just don't know why, and I love Elton John.

Oh, I know why. Why? Because he makes Britain look good. He's made his people proud. People who go out and accomplish great things in their field, like music, like sports. Yeah, you deserve it. Dame Judy Dench. Got it. Dame Maggie Smith. Sure. I feel like the people that I know in Hollywood who have gotten it are great representation of the British people.

Got it. I didn't even know that Elton John was British. I don't know where the fuck I thought he was from, but now that makes sense. Okay.

Seriously, you really are not okay. You're not okay.

You're not okay. But now that makes sense. Okay, so they're proud members. They're proud of the people, and so they night them. That makes sense. Yeah. And David Beckham makes sense.

Yeah, he's from the UK. I just wanted to make sure. I'm like, Wait. Yeah, he's born in the UK. Oh, wow.

You didn't even know. No, I did.

I saw the movie, but I was Wait, just 100%, yeah? Yeah. Did you see the movie, Rocket Man?

I think so. I think I saw it with you.

I remember, I think I saw it with Olivia.

Were you with-I don't think I saw it with you.

Did you see it, though? You would love it. I think so.

I feel like you saw it with your- Rocket Man.

Nobody loves Elton John more than your dad.

A Rocket Man. And I know. And I think it's going to be a long, long time to...

So, Touchdown brings me around. What's your favorite Elton John song? There are so many good ones. Benny and the Jets.

Benny and the Jets.

I used to call Ben. What's another one? There's so many. Rocket Man.

I'm still standing better than I...

Oh, he sing that song?

Oh, I knew that because last night we were literally watching Dancing with the Stars. Rock 'n' Roll Hall. And I was like, this is sing.

Yeah, this is from sing, too.

I don't know that is Elton John. I know that is sing.

He has a million songs. You should watch a movie. He does.

He does have a million songs. It's funny that I haven't seen that, but I saw Dylan.

Me and Ben saw. What was the movie called? The Bob Dylan?

The Bob Dylan show.

It was called Dylan. No, it had a weird one, like Beautiful Things.

A Beautiful Mind.

Or is that something else? No. That's like a Holocaust movie. Oh, my bad. Let me just double check.

Dylan's...

What was it called?

Oh, it was one of his songs.

Oh, I remember it. Do you want to know? Yeah. A complete unknown. What the fuck?

Terrible name. That said, Timothée Chalamet.

What a guy. Can we just go back to David Beckham really quickly? I'm really happy for him. I'm obsessed with these two. I feel like, obviously, they've been famous. I'm really happy for their whole lives and globally super famous. But I do feel like they've entered into an era recently after his documentary really leveled them up. They're so A-list. I feel like I put them now on the same level as... People are going to think I'm crazy, but like, Megan Markle and Prince Harry, in terms of Fame. The Obamas, they're so up there.

Did you see the video? Did you guys already talk about it?

We talked about it yesterday. Who was my host yesterday?

Strecker.

Oh, Strecker. No, it was two days ago. It was Zandra. I feel like she wasn't really super into royals.

Megan Markel celebrating the World Series was the single worst I've ever seen in my life. I agree. I actually wanted to jump off a bridge. I watched it and I'm like, Oh, Harry needs a divorce today.

Okay, so you know what? I'm actually going to switch our next story because it was Chris Martin and Sophie Turner dating, but we had already spoken about it. There's this new story on Page 6. Now, I can't tell if Page 6 just hates Megan Markel. You have to take everything they say with a grain of salt. But it says, a source says that Hollywood has really soured on Prince Harry and Megan Markel. They've lost a lot of their good faith. Hollywood source tells Page 6 that when it comes to Megan and Harry, There is not only no appetite left for them in LA, but they've also worn through any goodwill that they had. Another source tells them that people are sick of them. Their act has gotten stale. Netflix recently downgraded their deal with a high-profile pair. The couple had originally signed $100 million multi-year deal, which was just renewed as a first-look deal. The source obviously fucking hates Megan and Harry, saying they're just hopeless in professional settings. She also recently lost her in Publicist, and it's like the third publicist in a row. There's a lot of rumors about them, and I do feel like they're overblown, but I do think there's something really sinister, like behind the scenes there.

I don't really like that they're grouped.

Oh, because who do you think is worse?

A hundred % Megan.

Oh, I'm a hundred % Harry's worst.

I just don't think that Harry wants what is currently happening.

Oh, I disagree.

You think that he wants fame?

Oh, yeah. But you have to keep in mind. But in what context? Let me tell you, you have to keep in mind that he has lived his whole life in the shadow of his brother. His memoir was called Spare. You have an air and a spare. He's been this throwaway brother. He's been dying for attention his whole life. He went to Vegas and dressed up as a Nazi. He just wanted eyes on him. Now that he's out from the shadow of his brother and came to America as this hero being the bad royal family, I think he has this is the life. Yeah, she wanted to be an actress. What is he doing? Well, that's a great question. They've signed all these deals, and they don't fulfill these deals. So they had a Netflix deal, they had a Spotify deal. He's in this company with Oprah as a mental health specialist. They sign on to all these projects, and they do not fulfill them. He also got a three-book deal with a big book publisher. The first one came it was actually super popular because it was this crazy tell all about the royal family.

And of course, people love to know about the royal family. Beyond that, I don't know what more he has to say, but he does have more books in the pipeline. I think he really wants to be famous. Yeah. I think she does, too. But in a more Who doesn't want to be famous? In a more swirly type of way.

I guess. I don't know.

I don't know if I'm right, though. I don't know if I'm right.

I can only judge based on what I've seen. And what I've seen, first of all, Megan Markelin's suits was fantastic.

Are we I loved suits. And I also feel I'm biased because I recently watched suits, and it really changed to how I see her. I thought she was super beautiful, talented, amazing. She was.

But this show, her cooking show-Oh, well, yeah.

Let's talk about that. Is really-But you loved her jam.

Her jam was delicious.

Like you said, it was the best thing you ever ate.

It was somehow not so insanely caloric. There wasn't so much sugar in it. It was like a clean apricot jam that was delicious that her PR company sent. So kudos to her on making it great.

Her PR company sent...

To you? Yeah.

Okay. You're acting like you have PR. Calm down.

Okay, you're all right? You're all right? Yeah. So, yeah, she can make or works with a team that makes a good product for sure. The show was just so disingenuous.

That's the running theme with all of their projects.

The show was so... I don't believe you. I'm sorry. I don't believe you that you are...

Making a homemade potpourri.

Or that you tie-dying T-shirts.

Yeah, that was scarves.

What are you even doing? It's so simple. You're royal or royal-adjacent or royal, right? Do cool shit. Be like the-No, and they got these huge deals with Spotify, with Netflix.

It would have been great if what they put out was Pargie, right? A Megan Markle cooking show, you're royal. You have lived in this huge farm in Monte Cido. It was Pargy.

It was filmed. Well done. It was well done. It just like, I didn't believe I didn't believe anything that she was doing.

She's had a couple of podcast deals. I understand what this article is saying. This is what the source says. They're just hopeless in professional settings. We're told Harry even showed up late to a Netflix meeting, then asked an executive to get him a cup of hot chocolate, which is apparently his go-to beverage of choice. This story echoes a similar claim made by a Spotify employee who told Vanity Fair that Harry asked for the same drink, but there was none in the office, so employees scramble to obtain some.

All right, well- By the way, that has, one, it's not a big deal. Okay, hot chocolate is delicious. Two, that's on Spotify employees for not saying we don't have hot chocolate.

And not only that, if you have a prince coming, find out what he likes to drink and have it. The report also claimed, this is really interesting, that an idea was pitched to Harry. What if he reviewed a hot chocolate every week while chatting with a different friend, which Harry and his team considered but then rejected? That's a great idea. Oh, my God. I think that's one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. Coffees in cars. Coffees in cars getting coffee.

Yeah, right. But his could be hot chocolate. And we could bring back, what's our favorite low-calorie hot chocolate that nobody-Swismish. It's not for Swissmas. It could be sponsored by Swissmas. The pair had- You're welcome, Swissmas.

The pair had reportedly signed a three-year, $20 million deal with Spotify. It ended in 2023 after one season of her show, Archetypes. Then she had a podcast called Confessions of a Female founder with Lemonada, which ran from April to June of 2025. It's her. Yeah, her podcast and career was not good. I don't know.

I think it's her. I really do.

She's a hard-working girl, though. She got herself on a TV show. I don't think that she's not hardworking.

I never said that. I just think that the stuff that she puts out, it's just weird. I just don't like any of it.

This report says she controls everything. She thinks she's smarter than everyone. She's dismissive. And yes, there was a lot of news recently about her I'm having a stroke. I'm sorry. Yes, she lost another publicist. People who work from her run from her. I don't know. I don't know. I just feel like it's a lie. I don't know. I'm just not buying it. It could be a lie. I hate him. One of my fatal flaws is I am intent on seeing the worst in Prince Harry. I just think he's fucking evil. I do.

I'm sure that he's just a very normal... I don't think so. I think he's a normal person.

I don't think so. Our next story is something I literally would have never chosen.

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That's betterhelp. Com/toast. Toast. All right, Ben, are you ready for the four story that was tailored? Ready. Chosen just for you? Yes. Oreo has envealed their Thanksgiving dinner cookies. So here are the flavors. Ready? Turkey and stuffing.

What the fuck?

And creamed corn.

So- Wait, are you sure this isn't like an April fool?

I'm positive. Oreo Thanksgiving dinner inspired cookies are available in dessert inspired flavors like apple caramel. Not to be confused, but the previously released caramel.

And apple caramel is obviously delicious.

And pumpkin pie, which is not the pumpkin spice. It's a pumpkin pie. But the snack brand revealed their brand new Thanksgiving dinner inspired cookies yesterday. The cookie sandwiches are each coated in fudge. But here's where the Thanksgiving flavors come in. The fudge is infused with the flavors of six different turkey day dishes. So this is a little bit confusing, but they're selling it in a limited edition Oreo, like 10. It's like a big 10 Oreo. And then there are two of each flavor in the package. It's $20. It's a pretty good It's like a holiday thing that you can send to someone. Oh, nice. Yeah, the flavors sound really unique. Creamed corn is dunked in a bright yellow fudge with a light yellow dribble while the turkey and stuffing cookie is brown. I don't know. I feel conflicted because I say, Oreo, you're a perfect cookie. Leave it be. Just make Oreo. But then, they release Golden Oreo, and I think Golden Oreo is better than regular Oreo.

Then they release the Thinnies, and you're like, holy crap.

They're just called the Thins.

They're delicious, these Thinnies.

They're just called the Thinnies. The Thinnies are the turkey slices that you like.

If you turn the knob, it tightens it. Doing it.

Doing it.

It was the perfect cookie. The Thin is my favorite these days.

Look, here's what-The thin is like a cracker. I could eat a whole slate, especially breastfeeding. I could eat a whole pack of Oreo thins, golden or regular in about 30 minutes.

Here's what I think about these cookies. First and foremost, this is wonderful marketing by Oreo. You're talking about Oreo. They don't care about the Thanksgiving thing. We're just lifting the whole brand, right? Wonderful marketing. Corn is wonderful in sweet and savory settings. I can easily see a creamed corn. Think of a Corn bread, corn muffin.

Corn is extremely versatile.

Corn is extremely versatile. Turkey is not. I have no interest in a turkey and stuffing a chocolate-covered Oreo. It sounds absolutely revolting, and I don't need it.

I think we need to order it and do a patient taste test. We should have them send it to us. I could order it. It's $20. Yeah, you can send it.

Losing the purse trace. Yeah, just send it to me.

Cool. Oh, yeah, because Ben's a very influential foodie. So it's my PO box. Okay, PO box.

You don't even have a PO box. This is my PO.

I just want to say these look disgusting. Yeah, they do. I have a very hot take.

Please.

It's like regular Oreos are very commonly sold now at different fancy food stores, dipped in chocolate, and it's this big... I don't like it. It's not that it's bad.

Oh, you don't like the chocolate-covered Oreo?

It's fine, but it's become so popular. It's too much.

Yeah, look, people started dipping, people started frying. People started taking the Oreo.

Okay, take it back. Fried Oreos are fucking amazing.

I'm not disagreeing that they are amazing. I'm just saying they're a lot.

Yeah, but I'm like an Oreo stand. My favorite type of ice cream is cookies and cream. I love chopped up Oreo. I love Oreo. I'm saying this with love in my heart.

I actually don't know now that I'm thinking about it. I don't know if anybody loves Oreos more than you.

Golden Oreos are my fucking favorite.

No, it's not even When you get any ice cream, you want chocolate crunchies, which are just broken up Oreo.

A lot of people don't realize that Oreo actually has some flour lecithin in it, which is great for breastfeeding mamas. It helps with supply.

And did you know they're parv?

They're parv, yes, which means non-dairy. So they're kosher, too.

They're really just nothing. Yeah.

No, they're fucking amazing.

They're really just 100% chemicals. Like, what the hell is in an Oreo if it's parv?

Okay, voice crack. The fact that they're parv is great, but that means that they're non-dairy. So what's the cream?

What's in it?

Yeah, it's a little... I don't want to know. Some of our less than.

Send it to me. I don't want to know.

Today's Fifth and Final Story is a little dancing with the Stars recap. Spoiler alert. Danielle Fischal went home to Panga, Ben's girlfriend, and PageChicks is reporting that her Boy Meets World co-stars think the judges have a personal vendetta against her. So Danielle Fischal's Boy Meets World co-stars think Dancing with the stars' judges have a personal vendetta against her. Ryder Strong admitted on Saturday's episode of the Pod Meets World podcast in regards to watching the judges score her performances. I held back anger. I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt. At this point, it's starting to feel like a personal vendetta. Are you guys open to the potential that Danielle might be working her ass off?

So I actually- It has nothing to do with working her ass off. Her dance was bad.

Yeah. So I just feel like that podcast was before she went home, and I think he's probably even more enraged now that she did go home. And I feel like I'm actually extremely unbiased when it comes to dancing with the stars, with the exception of Andy. I don't have any horse in this race, and I just feel like it's Danielle's time. That's it. Yeah.

I have a couple of things to say here. First of all, Topanga was just the heartthrob of the generation.

You love her.

I loved her, certainly.

You don't love her anymore?

No. She seems wonderful. That said she looks like our pediatrician.

I said that on the to. She looks like Dr. Freilish.

It was her time.

Yeah, I agree.

Her dance was bad.

It was bad.

This is very clearly a two horse race.

Who would you think the horses are?

The horse is Alex, and the horse is Whitney. Oh, wow. I agree. I know that you probably like Crocodile Dundee.

Well, people love Robert Irwin. Yeah.

He seems wonderful, by the way.

He's a very good dancer.

And he just like, he's a star.

I would agree, except that Jordan Chiles is really stepping her pussy up. So I think you're scooting past her.

Yeah, I just, I don't know. I think that Whitney and Alex are just amazing dancers.

No, Alex has really, in the last two weeks- She crushed it. Oh, my God. Last night's dance was amazing.

And it's so clear how hard she works.

What is up with Flavor Flave? I actually, I like that they brought in a judge who wasn't so serious. People take this show so fucking seriously. It's actually annoying. Whenever we give critiques, people are like, Well, you don't understand the jive. Okay, yeah, I don't understand the jive. I understand that I watched something that I thought was good. It looked good. Yeah. It's nice that he brought a sense of levity, but him giving Andy a nine or an eight, and then Alex a nine. I hate that his voting and judging really made no sense. Having said that, he brought levity, and it was fun and fresh and whatever. But Alex was very close to being the first person to get a completely perfect score, a 40 out of 40, and she got a 39. He had said in an interview afterwards, he meant to give her a 10, and then they wouldn't let him change it. So, yeah. But that's annoying for Alex. But I do believe she's... When we first started, it was very clear that Whitney was going to win. And I feel like Alex was like, Hold my beer. I think Alex really could and should win.

She works so hard.

That's the thing. Whitney does have professional dance background, So I don't know if necessarily Whitney is getting that much better. She was already at the top. Whitney is kids? Yeah. She's kids, right? No, it's insane.

No. Alex has made this. It's very, very clear. Her full-time job, 100% of her personality, committed with Val in that room. He gave her a very inappropriate smooch last night.

On the forehead? Yes, that was weird.

I'm just saying, give her a very inappropriate smooch. And it seems that the two are thick as thives, and they are in it to win it.

Yeah. She's really new to the dance I know she danced a little bit, but in terms of ballroom technique and stuff, and I feel like she's the perfect... They should have her win because she's really what the show embodies. Whitney, who is a professional dancer, winning is like, no, you're supposed to be a star before you're a dancer. She's a great guest judge.

That would be really fun. I agree. I would be like, very Bruno. I give him a nine.

I want to talk about Andy.

That was super Hitler of me. I didn't mean to do that.

That was very Hitler-coated. I want to talk about Andy really quickly, okay?

Yeah, but before Let me go into it. Let me just say, Andy should not be on the show anymore. Andy is a really nice guy. I see a lot of myself in him. When I saw his outfit last night, it was like, Oh, that looks like me, five drinks deep, at a wedding, where I've untucked my shirt and taken off my bow tie, and I'm just like, dancing and sweating. But you've platformed him a little bit too hard. And I think that people are voting for him because you told them to. Oh, wow. At the end of the day, the only argument for Danielle Fishel is that she should not have gone home before Andy.

So I have been like an Andy defender because Every week, while he's certainly not the best dancer, I feel as though he's brought something to the dance, whether it was endearing, like I thought it was sweet, or whether it was funny, like he made me laugh. And last night was the first time he danced, where I was like, Okay, you've actually given me nothing, and all I see is your mistakes, and all I see is your inability to keep up. So I thought that last night was an appropriate time for him to go home. Up until that point, I thought there were people who just did less, and I know people didn't agree with me, but he was bringing something. This is a TV show. He was entertaining me. And last night, I was like, Okay, he can definitely go home. Danielle Fishel going home before him, this is what Jack and I keep saying. It doesn't matter. Andy's not going to win, and Danielle's not going to win. It was one of them going home first. So the fact that it was in. Now, Andy will go home. Now, if he doesn't go home, I will think that it's weird.

The way people every week is like, it's weird that Andy hasn't gone home. I haven't agreed. Now, starting, no one needs to go home besides him.

Agreed.

And I appreciate you blaming me. It's your fault. That's really sweet of you. It's not. But it's time.

It's time. It's time for Andy to go home. Yeah. To his kids. Yeah. And to his wife. Yeah. Because him and what's her name are getting a little bit too close.

Emma? Yeah. I don't think so. I think it's much more of a paternal, daughterly.

Nothing's paternal to a man.

She's dating Allen. Okay. Do you know who that is?

I do. All I know is I don't know what Andy's thinking. Just saying.

What are you talking about?

Just saying. Okay.

That's your Jetsy with the Stars recap, now we're getting to the point where we're thinning the herd. I think once we get to five or six people, Jordan, Whitney, because it's top four. Right now, my top four are Alex, Jordan, Whitney, Robert Irwin.

I also, sorry.

I'm not a fan of Dylan Efron. I think he'll go home soon, too.

Agreed. Andy should have gone home before Jen. Jen was a good dancer. Yeah, I agree. She worked hard. I agree. If we're doing this on hard work and improvement, she was postpartum, and she deserved to go further.

I completely agree. Although Jackie's take on it, and I don't disagree with it, is I do think it was a kind thing to let her go. I think this was a really difficult experience for her. Being away from her kids, breastfeeding full-time, being so freshly postpartum. I think it's hard on her body physically and her mind.

She wasn't going to win, so it was kind. Let her go. Let her go.

Yeah, I think it was the kind thing to do.

Who was the worst contest on dancing with the stars this year?

Who was it?

Who was?

Define worst. It was In a technical sense, it's Andy.

Who annoyed you the most? No, like- Lauren Herege. Got it.

Baren Davis wasn't great. I forgot. We've literally the show has been on for three months already.

Baren Davis was bad. I was not a Hilaria fan. I'm just not an Hilaria.

I'm not an Hilaria fan either because she's so crazy. But in terms of dance, she was very good.

She was a fine dancer.

She went home because people just don't like her. She was a fine dancer. That's the thing. That's what I'm worried about. People really don't like Whitney. When I go to Twitter and see, they're like, I can't believe Whitney didn't go home last night. I'm like, What are you She's the best dancer on TV. I do think that the fan votes actually have a lot of sway, and people really don't like Whitney. I don't know why.

If the fan votes have a lot of sway, Alex will win.

Yeah, agreed. She already won. She already won. She already won. Agreed 100%. I would be very happy. I think she deserves to win. She's my winner right now. That's who I voted for last time. I only voted for one person, and I voted for her 10 times.

She has been amazing. Agreed.

It's been really cool to see someone from TikTok. Crush it. Yeah, that's where our peeps. Content creator.

Cc.

Podcaster. Cc. Guys, give it up for Ben. He'll probably be back because I'm in Florida, and it's literally going to be him and Olivia in rotation. We're going to do it tomorrow? Him and Olivia in rotation. No, I have someone tomorrow joining me.

So maybe Friday.

No, I have someone Friday, but next week. So I'll be back. You'll be back next week. Okay, cool. Guys, send me recommendations for people in Florida. If you live in Florida and are a podcaster, and I know you, and I just can't think of you, please reach out. I do have a couple of days open next week.

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