This episode of The Toast mixes a mock dance-competition segment with a rundown of the week's entertainment and business headlines. The hosts discuss a public spat on Instagram in which Kyle Cooke commented on his ex Amanda Batula's life after West Wilson posted a photo of the pair, and they debate whether the fallout has affected her career.
They then turn to Kim Kardashian's reported surgery after an esophagitis diagnosis, a health story shared on her series. Next comes DoorDash's reported deal to buy Instacart for about $17 billion, with the hosts weighing grocery delivery frustrations.
The episode closes with reactions to Savannah Chrisley's pregnancy and secret wedding.
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Live from Hollywood, this is "Dancing With The Stars." Please welcome your host.
Thanks, Alfonso. Welcome back to "Dancing With The Toast." I am your host, Julianne Huff, joined by my brother, my dear brother.
Brother, life partner, and borderline inappropriate dance partner. Hi, everyone. I'm Derek Huff.
Brava. It's good to see you.
Brava. It's me, Derek Huff.
And my brother.
Sorry, wait. It's me, Derek Huff.
Oh, Derek. Looking good, Derek.
Yeah.
My brother and I are joined by the one and only dear friend of the family, Carrie Ananaba. Thank you so much, Carrie.
Oh, it's me, Carrie Ann. Oh, thank you for having me here.
Carrie Ann, you look good.
Never looked better, Carrie Ann.
Yes. I did shave.
Yes, I'm it's me, Carrie Ann.
Where did you shave, Carrie?
I shaved my face.
You did?
You did? I trimmed. You did? I trimmed.
OK. OK. It looks great.
You look beautiful, Carrie.
Thank you.
Carrie, really. And I just want to say, this wig is like what I want my hair to look like. It's like the most gorgeous wig I've ever seen in my life.
It is quite gorgeous.
It feels.
Tell us your secrets.
It feels tight. I'm not going to lie. You know what? I'm going to give that hair 10 out of 10.
What are you going to give it?
I'm going to give it a 7.
Oh, 7.
7 out of 10.
Carrie.
And if anyone's wondering, Carrie Ann's lip combo, Cherry by MAC. You look good. You look good. You know what? I feel good. I feel good. I was just giving you back that bored wig. Yeah, we've got our paddles.
I'm not a judge, but maybe one day. Dream big.
Dream big. And let's talk about your hosting, Julianne.
Let's talk about it. Brother, dear brother.
You've come under major scrutiny for inappropriate questioning, a line of questioning that people find to be downright offensive at times. And what do you have to say for yourself, Julianne?
I would say that I'm the voice of the people.
I agree.
Right? And we're just having a great time on a great show. And everybody loves us. What can I say?
Thanks, Alfonso.
Thanks, Derek.
And you know what? Both of your footwork's looking just like a little flat. And I want you to rotate that frame. You're ending up a little bit hunched. Relax those arms.
Not me. Never me, right, Derek? Never me.
Are you talking to me?
Not your sister. Not your dear sister.
Let's talk about ourselves.
It sounded like you were describing fibula.
Oh, wow. Not fibula getting straight bullets.
Yeah, fibula, just he just can't cut it. He just can't cut it.
Actually, I heard Derek that you said in the press that you think fibula is going to make top four.
Listen, I'm Derek.
Not if I have something to say about it.
7. I'm Derek Huff. Like, I say shit, you know? And I don't even know what I say sometimes. I don't think anybody knows what I say. But all I know is that I love to dance.
Yes. Well, how has the season been for you, Derek, considering that you also once danced with.
Amber Riley.
And someone also has a prosthetic.
Yes. Let's find out her name before we continue. Amber?
Amy.
No. Amy. Amy. Yes, when I danced with Amy, who had two prosthetics, which obviously Daniela Carragh knows nothing about because two is much more than one, I really learned a lot about the human spirit and how we can adjust those movements, those techniques to really fit and tell a beautiful story. And the story that we told was so beautiful. And I really see that every time I see Azra. Obviously, not as good as when I did it, but.
But pretty good, brother. Pretty good.
Thanks, Alfonso.
I wouldn't say great. That story was a 7.
OK. That's just hurtful.
Carrie Ann, tell us about your childhood.
It was bleak. It was bleak. I come from my mother's actually Scottish. That's why randomly you'll hear, ooh, I'm Carrie Ann. Ooh, Carrie Ann. Ooh.
Hey, Derek. What you doing? Derek.
Hey, Derek. What's going on over there?
What are you doing?
Oh, Derek. I love your pot of boureh. Remember when we used to pot of boureh, Derek?
That's what stuck up at your sister.
Oh, Derek isn't mic'd anymore. A nightmare for Derek.
Derek, I'm not going to lie to you. Ooh, Derek. That was a 7.
I think.
Thanks, Yuvajanaya.
I think it was a 10.
You guys, we did not think through.
Nobody dances like my brother.
You guys, we didn't think through the dance, not having a microphone.
Well, let's turn on.
Let's turn on this one.
Mic over there. We'll push it over. It's a dream for Derek now.
I'm sweating through the adhesive of my moustache. It's going to fall off.
You look so good.
I think you look great with or without these.
Oh, I mean, you look so average.
I shouldn't have given you that battle. I didn't know you were going to use that as a weapon against me.
Carrie Ann, who do you have to take the whole season?
Ooh, I think I think Azra. I think Azra's going to take it. He's so eloquent.
I think Sarah Jane Nader is going to take it.
He's so fantastic. And I just love the way that he moves. And I like Azra.
That's beautiful.
Azra's great.
Azra will win.
We all love Azra.
I'm really trying to think who you look like because you obviously don't look like Carrie Ann and who I look like.
I think you look like Derek Huff.
No, of course. But I really look like someone else. Who is it?
I mean.
And you look like one of the actresses from "Bombshell." Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
For sure.
For sure.
You look like someone.
You do.
Can't quite put my finger on the toaster.
I feel like I kind of look like never mind.
The toasters will identify it, honestly.
No.
You don't think so?
No. You can say that. But I don't.
No, I don't want to like I don't want anybody to like.
Feel bad.
Feel bad.
Oh, Carrie, that's so sweet.
Oh, actually, I do. 7.
Fibula.
I see Carrie Ann as a sweet lady.
Well, you're wrong.
I see her as a misunderstood woman. Like, she's just doing her job.
She's just like trying to give a bit of critique. Carrie, you're so misunderstood.
Yeah, but she's giving a bit.
Does that come from your childhood?
Oh, yeah. I forgot. I'm her. I'm misunderstood. I'm just I'm out here. These people are dancing. I spent my entire life studying ballet.
No, you didn't. Not ballet.
Hip hop.
Not hip hop.
Hip hop, I heard.
Oh. You want to get up and show us some of your moves?
I spent my entire life studying ballroom technique.
Hip hop.
And hip hop.
Ooh, ballroom.
And hip hop to the bus stop.
And hip hop, you don't stop.
Make a wicked cup of cocoa. And then these people come in, and they're terrible. And I try to give them honest critiques to make them better dancers. And you know, it's been a real honor to have the first exclusive interview with you after your big scandal with Val. How are you feeling about the tension in the ballroom?
How did that make you feel?
I mean, he's a rat bastard. So that's how I feel. That's that on that.
Can you find any forgiveness in your heart for this rat bastard?
No. I can't.
You can't. And you won't?
I can't. And I won't until next week.
Does that come from your childhood, the lack of forgiveness?
It does. It does. And I do think should Val.
OK, I know you're trying to be Julianne Huff, but you're giving Alex Cooper. Does that come from your childhood?
Talking about your childhood trauma.
Should Val win, I will forgive him. Because I want to be on the right side of the winner. But if he loses, this is going deeper.
Your tits look nice in that dress.
They feel hairy.
Ben, oh, and another shout-out to our iconic businessman of the week.
Shelby Silverstein.
Ben's dress from Amazon did not arrive in time, AKA I forgot to order it. That's my bad. And literally, 9:00 p.m., Instacart from Spirit Halloween.
Thank you, Steven Silverstein.
Thank you, Shel Silverberg.
Back to you, Carrie Ann.
Tell us about your childhood.
It was a 7.
Let's give it a taste. Let's give it a dance.
Let's give it a dance.
Carrie Ann, we heard you wrote a new cookbook.
I did. It's called "Let's Give It a Taste."
How was your lunch day? Not pub day.
Yesterday was.
Your order day.
Yesterday was crazy. I don't know if you looked this morning, but and this is fleeting.
Ben's number 19 on the Amazon charts of all books.
I'm number 2 next to Ina in cookbooks.
In cookbooks. Amazing.
In cookbooks. It's me and Miss Val.
I think we should do a celebratory dance.
Me and the queen. Me and the queen. Yeah, it was just.
Brother, would you do a contemporary dance to embody the spirit of reaching number 19 on books and number 2 on cookbooks?
This dance is a reflection of what it feels like in a contemporary manner to become number 19 on books and number 2 on cookbooks.
I give it a 7.
Nobody dances like my brother. 10, 10.
7. But that is just the only thing written on my board.
There's a dry erase marker. You can update your board.
I'll give it.
Give my brother a 10 or I'll kill you.
A 7.
Oh, my god.
No, that was a wonderful dance. Really, a 10.
I really actually was working on my samba a lot in the bathroom this morning.
That's very good.
What's your favorite style of dance, Derek?
Whatever I do with you, Julianne. And that dance reminded me of when I danced with Amy.
Tell us about that, brother.
Does that make you sad thinking back on those times?
No. It was such a feat, you know? And I think that Amy and I walked so Azra and Daniela could run. And I just think back on that time with Amy a lot, how historic it was and the precedent that we've sended for people like Azra and Daniela to thrive.
They couldn't have done it without you, brother.
I agree.
That's for sure.
Thanks, Alfonso.
So, Julianne, who is your favorite contestant this season?
You know what? Who cares about that? Julianne, let's talk about Ryan Seacrest. Let's talk about the Ryan Seacrest years.
OK.
What was that like?
YOLO.
YOLO.
That's all I have to say about him.
Was he on the show?
YOLO.
They did it for like 10 years.
And all I have to say to him is, thanks, Ryan.
Literally, thank you.
Yeah, they did it.
Yeah, she was like his they did it for a really long time.
You know how much money he's making doing "Wheel of Fortune"?
Time flies when you're Julianne Huff.
Maybe five years. Maybe five.
Oh, OK.
Do you know how much money he's making doing "Wheel of Fortune"?
I don't.
We did look up his salary when we were watching it before.
30 million a year.
It's not insane.
Yeah. But that's like one small that's a side hustle of his.
It's also such a demanding job, lowkey. It's every night.
And then he does every morning.
On the radio.
On the radio.
Remember when he was doing live with Kelly?
Yeah.
How did you guys ever find time to be intimate?
That was a tough time for us.
And that's the only reason.
But I never gave up.
And that's the only reason.
And I never do give up.
And that's the only reason you two had a hard time being intimate.
Brother.
Brother.
Brother.
Brother.
Yeah. I won't discuss such things.
Of course not.
You know that.
Of course not. Having a beard is so itchy. I guess this is not what a real beard feels like.
I'm sorry you're going through that, brother.
Thank you.
Thank you, Derek.
And let's talk about your looks. Actually, you've been heavily criticized for having atrocious fashion this season and seasons beyond. What do you have to say to your fashion haters?
Ooh, I'm for Catherine O'Hara.
Thank you so much. It's a great.
You look like Moira.
You look like Schitt's Creek, Moira.
Well, let me tell you an interesting fact that I'm sure everyone would love to know. So to my haters, I say, this is Gucci.
Wow.
You could go tell.
Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes.
You could go tell to Tom Ford for Gucci. And fun fact is that when I dressed up as Moira Rose, I wore this dress.
That makes sense. You are giving Moira.
This is like my most used dress. And it's this is Jackie speaking.
Do you ever wear the dress not as a costume?
Yes. I've worn it to a couple of events. But it always comes in handy when I have to be an extravagant, stylish woman.
Woman, yeah.
And it's very short, the dress. So I don't wear it out as much anymore. I probably wouldn't wear it like now as a mom. So it's really just like my costume dress. But it is Gucci. So why don't you fuck off.
Do you think.
That's what Julianne has to say to the haters. Official comment, fuck off.
Do you think I should save this? Do you think I'll need this dress again as a young father?
That's a good question.
Yes.
We did buy it in two colors. So we also have it in black.
Do you have anybody that is an XL women's in black?
No.
Long, tall.
No, I don't know anyone who's an XL woman.
Big and tall.
Tall, tall, very tall.
I don't know anyone who would fit that dress.
I would never wear that size.
So funny. I was texting our group chat last night, being like, oh, my god, I forgot to order Ben's dress. Like, where on earth am I going to find like a huge, sparkly dress? And I was like, oh, my closet.
Did you find anything?
I didn't look. It was too upsetting. Like, for real. If I would have found something, I also would have had to find a gun to kill myself. So no, I didn't.
Did you ever did you give away those Reformation dresses from back in the day?
Oh, you know what? You kept writing Reformation dresses in the chat. You mean what's that? It's not Reformation.
Retardation.
What was it called?
Retrofit.
Retrofit. No, I still have them. I could see a future where I wear them. And I don't really want Ben ruining them.
Yeah, like, you'll never be able to unsee it.
They're not.
They wouldn't fit me.
I have a few from my skinny era and a few from my big era. I don't even think the big ones would fit you, no offense.
By the way.
Oh, I know who Ben looks like. Jackie's not going to get this reference.
Will I?
I'm so chronically online. Ben looks like Ash Trevino if you know, you know.
I don't know who that is.
Is that offensive to Ash Trevino?
Is it offensive to me?
Great question.
I don't think anyone's going to take the comparison well.
She's pretty woman. Leave that to me. But great question.
Is she a pretty woman?
I'm showing you as a picture.
Is she a woman?
She is a woman.
That's the first question. No, I what are you even talking about?
No, wait. That's a bad picture.
By the way, that is offensive to me.
No, it's what she looks like.
Find like her profile.
I look nothing like Ash.
But here's her mug shot.
Trevino.
You look like Ash Trevino.
The hair is.
I see it in the mug shot.
You see it in the mug shot.
I see it more in the mug shot.
Because Carrie Ann is a criminal.
I see it more in the mug shot. Yes, yes.
She has the heart of a criminal.
Obsessed.
She does.
10 out of 10 comparison, honestly.
Yeah.
I figured it out.
You did.
We do have stories today. But like, today's not really about.
The stories. It's about us.
Yeah. And we kind of are the stories always. You just know Derek and Julianne are going to see this, by the way.
Of course.
So like, we have to be mindful of what we clip.
I just need to say, I love Julianne Huff. Like, and I think my portrayal has been, you know, a loving portrayal, a girl who loves her brother, who takes fashion seriously, and who says thank you a lot.
She's very grateful.
She's well-mannered.
She's a grateful queen.
And I love Carrie Ann in Abbo. I do. I love Abbo.
Not Abbo.
Even though I've been calling her Carrie Ann Conway all week.
That is funny.
But I love Carrie Ann in Abbo.
And what?
In Abbo.
When you think of Carrie Ann, what do you think of?
Your childhood?
I think. I when I think of Carrie Ann, I think of a polished, well-read, distinct woman.
I love that.
I actually agree.
Who can.
I agree.
On a real level.
Who is.
This show is a Carrie Ann stanchion.
We're always defending her.
She's just a little bit too good for the show.
I agree. And I think a part of Carrie Ann that people miss is her sensitivity. I think she's very sensitive.
She's just a girl.
And that's the Carrie Ann that I know.
Yeah. And when you guys like, you go to her trailer and stuff, and you guys talk.
Yes, of course we do. Us girls.
We sticky.
Our girls got to stick together.
We sticky.
Yeah, we do.
Because the other girls on the show, they come and go. But Carrie's one of the only ones I can relate to.
We kick it.
As high-level, you know, employee of "Dancing With The Stars."
Now let me ask a question. It feels sort of like a fait accompli that at some point, Julianne, you will take Carrie Ann's seat as a judge, obviously not anytime soon. But does that sort of fracture your friendship?
It definitely makes me.
Worried.
Think about her moves.
Yeah.
Are they earnest?
Don't get into a car with her.
Are they self-centered? But then I think about all of the great times that we've had in our trailer, geeking.
It's true.
And I know that.
What the hell is going down in that trailer?
Girl things. You wouldn't understand. Brother.
Yes, I would.
And I know that she would never do anything to me like that. Right, Alfonso?
Right, Alfonso.
We need Alfonso.
I know.
He's also the best.
He's also the best.
Let's put her on FaceTime.
Thanks, Alfonso.
Alfonso is the best. And I've loved working with him. And to answer these accusations of me trying to serve Carrie Ann, I would never. I love my job. I love this show. And I wouldn't change a hair on its head.
OK. OK.
Plus, that panel only has room for one Huff, considering it's so unnoticed. Carrie, show us some of those hip-hop moves.
Oh, God, those hips.
Twirl there. OK.
I just want to say, this is the most.
Oh.
Carrie Ann.
Carrie Ann, this is a family-friendly show. Some people watch in the car with their kids.
This is the most physical activity I have had in almost a year.
I just got up one time, and I'm not pregnant.
And I'm wearing a fake mustache. It's seriously falling off.
That was really that was hard, strangely.
Let's give it a taste.
Let's give it a taste. Let's give it a taste. Let's give it a 7.
Carrie Ann, if you could taste anything, what would it be?
Ooh.
Something from your childhood.
No, probably a strand of a strand of Ezra's hair, I think.
A strand of his hair.
I would love to taste Ezra's hair.
Another question. Carrie Ann, any on-set romances?
Yes.
You and Bruno, perhaps?
Yes. I mean, besides the glaring one.
Julianne?
Me?
Julianne and.
No, I'm talking about you.
Oh, with me?
You have a love.
Oh, am I a love interest?
Do you have a love in your life? Have you ever dated or hooked up with any of the contestants?
I have, yes. But he recently went home. So I can't I can't speak about it.
Who was it?
Tyler Cameron.
You heard it here first.
You heard it here first.
Carrie Ann Cameron.
Carrie Ann Cameron.
Tada! It's Kate. What do you have to say about that?
It happened on a plane.
Where were you guys going?
The Knicks game.
Oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
You and Tyler.
Special night in Cleveland.
Well, what about the rumors about you and Val and that your feud was just to cover up from a torrid love affair?
Val is happily married, loves his wife. And I would never, ever want to get in the middle of that.
Is Carrie Ann married? Like, what do we even know about her personal life?
What do we know about her childhood?
Oh, good question.
Am I married?
She dated Ardum.
She dated Ardum?
An old pro.
Former pro.
Oh, wow. Oh, so I'm like.
You're getting down.
I'm down to dance.
It sounds like you're eating where you're shitting.
And then he married Nikki Bella.
Of the Bella twins.
Of the Bella twins.
And then she got a restraining order.
I feel like that's the craziest thing I've ever heard, that he used to she used to date Ardum.
She's not married, but she's been engaged twice.
Why do you call out the engagements? That's so.
That's so you.
10 out of 10.
You know, because I'm married to dance. And the idea of marrying anybody other than my craft, it would make me a worse judge. And my whole life is this fucking show. And if you if you only knew what it was like for one second to be me.
Yeah.
You would understand why I I can't hold down a man.
Hi, are you struggling?
Broke my heart.
I am.
Come to my trailer after the show.
I am struggling. I've been coming.
Your story is so inspiring.
I've been coming.
The way you told that story, it's it's brought something out in me that just makes me want to dance.
By?
Oh, the book.
My brother will be dancing a samba to represent the loneliness Carrie Ann feels as a judge on the show who does not have a work-life balance. Derek, that was beautiful. Nobody nobody does storytelling like you.
Fix the book.
I am actually.
Fix the book.
Going to have to go to the bathroom. Like, OK, I got it. I got it.
Oh, Carrie, you feel like dancing? Show us a little hip-hop. OK.
Show us what you're known for.
Oh, yeah. Show us how to pop and lock and jam and break.
And then I promise we could start the stories.
Carrie will be dancing a hip-hop that represents the love between my brother and I.
Oh, it's a very sensual dance then. All right, now samba for us.
Is that this? I would be great on this show.
OK, if you say so.
Would you ever do Ben, would you ever do "Dancing With The Stars"? You can't be underpaid if you're not paid.
That's all right.
So true.
I would do the opening of an envelope.
Yeah, I love that about you.
That would be.
It's fun. You'd make it fun. I'd make it fun. Sure.
Yeah.
You would do it.
That said.
Do you think you would be any good? Can you dance?
I don't think I can dance.
Ben can dance like rhythmically at a wedding. Ben cannot do technique.
That's the first step, by the way.
You can't do pas de bris.
Some people can't dance at a wedding.
But did you know this about me? Look at my feet.
Oh, move back. People can't see. Yeah, Ben can get into the he's very like.
My, Carrie Ann, what big feet you have.
Look, look, Ben. What is this?
You know, Ben's in first position when your heels touch.
He lives in first position, yeah?
Yeah, I do.
You do have, like, exceptional foot flexibility.
I wonder if that would help you in the competition or harm you.
I think it can only help. I think it can only help. What was the what's his Harry?
Shawn?
Shawn Jr.
Shawn. Amazing dancer. I did think it was funny in some of the early episodes when he implied that his dance background wouldn't help him in this show.
Oh, of course. It would actually hurt him to be such a good dancer.
I will say that my flexibility would help me in this show. There's no way that being foot flexible could hurt.
Yeah.
Right? And I have strong.
I don't know. Maybe your feet, like, rotate too much. And as Derek would say, like.
Over-rotation.
But then I need.
Classic in the dance world.
But then I need to do dances that rely on over-rotation.
Well, you have to do.
There's a pot for every kettle.
We tell you to do.
No, you.
OK, hair flip.
No, I need to do it based on inspired by your recommendations.
I don't even know what we're talking about anymore.
We're talking about Ben on "Dancing With The Stars."
And I just want to say, I love the idea. Because, you know, I'm very much like in my trophy wife era now. Ben's doing all the work.
He launched the book.
Ever since he launched his book, like, I don't want to work anymore. So like, I'll go you've, like, supported me in my crazy endeavors, the masked singer. Yeah, like, let's go to LA so you can be on "Dancing With The Stars." I would love that.
So maybe me and Ben do it together instead of me and you.
Oh, I didn't know you were coming too. If you're coming, Julianne.
Well, you have to come.
Yeah, then I am.
Brothers.
Then I'm.
I don't think I could do it because, obviously, I'm an expert.
Obviously. But that hasn't stopped.
That hasn't stopped anyone, has it?
What are the stories today? Like.
I don't know. I really don't know, honestly. Thanks, Alfonso. These terrible stories.
I mean, I didn't like, you're blaming me.
You're not Alfonso. I'm sorry to tell you, Derek, but you are not Alfonso. And you will never be Alfonso.
And this is a conversation that we have in private that we really shouldn't be airing out in public. Julianne.
I just think it's quite obvious that you are not Alfonso.
I would agree that.
Why is it so obvious?
It's obvious.
Why?
It's pretty obvious, Derek, because you are Derek.
And why isn't Derek Alfonso?
Why isn't Alfonso Derek?
You tell me that.
Why aren't I Alfonso?
Alfonso's a man.
And you are a woman, Carrie.
True, true, true.
Clearly.
Clearly.
Clearly.
True.
We have some Summer House news. We have some.
Oh, I saw that.
Kardashian news.
Kyle's deleted comment. Is that what we're talking about?
Yes.
OK, Carrie Ann. Carrie Ann, do you watch Bravo? You were pretty harsh to Sierra.
I saw that. I'm not going to lie.
You saw it?
I saw it. And it was I have a lot of things to say. You want to.
So do I. I'm kind of switching sides.
To.
I'm on Team Amanda.
I'm kind of on Team Amanda too. Like, in the whole scheme and evolve thing, I'm obviously look, when we're including Sierra in the equation, I'm obviously Team Sierra and Kyle, I guess. But just like West, Kyle, and Amanda going at each other, like, I'm Team West and Amanda.
Wow, Derek.
Yeah.
A2, Derek.
No, it's just like.
It reminds me of this dance I once danced.
About a scoring lover.
Exactly.
That was a beautiful one. I remember every step.
I know you do, sister. I know you do.
Like, shouldn't everybody just move on? He's the only one not moving on.
Oh, Kyle?
Yeah. They moved on.
That's true.
It's over. It's over. And then.
Sierra's moved on.
And I read.
She's doing her opportunities.
And I read something, which was that he wanted to reignite this fire because she said no to "In the City."
That's what we're going to talk about today.
Yes, to "In the City."
OK, so let's talk about it, Carrie.
Let's talk about it.
Let's give it a taste.
Without further adoo-doo-doo-doo-doo, it is time for the fast-five stories that you do need to know.
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So Kyle Cook has taken aim at.
Take aim?
Taking aim.
OK, Julianne.
Derek, don't start with me.
You know, another critique.
Last guy called our mother. Not mother.
We've never heard about their parents because they, like, lived with Shirley Valez their whole life. Don't make me call Shirley.
You don't make me.
Yeah.
Yeah, they, like, trained they moved to live with her in, like, train.
In the UK or something.
Yeah, because she's, like, such a great dancer, and they were very promising young dancers.
Wow.
Yeah, who would have thought? Like, there's so much lore.
Wow.
We have a lot of lore.
I'm still stuck on Artem dating Carrie Anne.
So deep.
Yes. So Kyle raised concerns about his ex Amanda's well-being as he broke his silence after West Wilson did. So Kyle sort of, like, went rogue.
On the Instagram comments.
On Instagram. He West shared a photo of him and Amanda attending a Chiefs football game, and he captioned it, "What the heck?" And then Kyle commented, "More like you a cokehead that blew my ex's life and career up."
So it's such a weird comment. Like, one, to call someone a cokehead in public is just, like, a crazy accusation. But also, like, why so, like, Amanda's completely innocent in all of this, and it's just West the villain? It's, like, such a weird.
No, and, like, that comment made me sad because if that's true, like, her life like, she was, like yeah, her life and her career has been blown up. Then she posted a series of.
Comments.
Instagrams of just, like, life lately. And I think she captioned.
She loves to dump.
She loves to dump. She captioned it, "Y'all mind if I post?" She keeps doing that. Like, every comment is so self-aware. Just, like, move on if you want to move on. And it's a bunch of random photos of, like, her and West, her and friends, of course, the dogs. There are a couple of, like, memes in there. Oh, wait. Yeah. One said, "You've made your bed. Now lie in it." And then, OK, that's actually my favorite thing to do.
That's funny.
Which means she's happy in her life.
Yeah, by the way, I don't see it. I think, yes, her career is obviously blown up. I don't think West blew it up. I think she, like, made a choice and.
She made her choice, but no, like, West.
But what was her career? Like, what am I.
Being a reality star, being a very popular influencer.
And you're saying that Kyle has now stopped that from happening.
No, they're saying West has stopped that from happening.
Because she ended a relationship with West. She's one of the most hated people, and she doesn't get brand deals, and now she's not on either show.
But why is that only West's fault?
No, but it's also why why is that true? Like, what Tom Sandoval is still on the show.
No, he's not.
Oh, he's off?
Well, there's no show for him.
There's no show, but his life was also derailed.
Yeah.
But he was hated before, and he's, like, a narcissist who thrives on being hated. Amanda's life, she's not on Summer House anymore. She did decide not to film In the City. She doesn't get brand deals. She doesn't go to events.
Then maybe she's happy.
Maybe.
I'm saying, like.
I think that's what she's saying.
A career derailed, like, it's only derailed if he liked where it was, and clearly she didn't like where it was. And the choice to not be on TV, it was her choice. That's what he implied.
She also had another comment defending her reasoning for not wanting to return, just basically what we thought it was. Like, the trolling and the hate is so immense.
Sure it is.
Like, why would I put myself in that? And it's like, yeah.
For anything less than a huge payday is why not.
And they weren't willing to buck up.
Yes. Then he posted again. He said, "There's already enough negativity online, and the last thing I want to do is add to it. So I want to be clear, and then I'm leaving this alone. Despite our differences, I will always care about Amanda. And when it comes to people I care about, I fight hard, sometimes too hard." What about when you were married?
Yep, no.
It's been an emotional and frustrating situation. I have let those feelings get the better of me at times, but it doesn't mean my concerns aren't valid.
West also left a comment being, like, "Dude, what are you talking about? You called your wife a dumbass bitch." Like.
Right.
It's the revision I said this once, and I'm sure everyone started hearing it. The revisionist history of Kyle Cook. Like, this is not a good man. This is not a good husband. This is not a protective partner. This is, like, borderline an abusive partner. So, like, the rewriting of me, like, I'm just trying to protect Amanda. Like, you've never been meaner to her in your whole life.
No, but you were her number one op when you guys were married.
Hater.
And then Amanda.
You need protection from you.
It has to be all about me, but.
Of course.
He was mean to me.
Yes, he was.
And he and he or sorry, he was mean to my my dear, close and personal friend, author of Let's Give It a Taste Bend's author.
Oh, right.
And and he never apologized for that.
And then Amanda Bettula responded to a tweet.
Mm.
Cool. It was not real Amanda Bettula. Oh, is it? No, it was real Amanda Bettula.
OK.
She hasn't tweeted since 2023, and she literally came on.
Seven.
She came on Twitter to respond to this tweet. Kyle realized that when Amanda declined to film the upcoming season of In the City, he could no longer control or manipulate her anymore and thus melted down in West's Instagram comments.
I saw that too.
She then replied, tweeted it with, like, the target emoji, like, nailed it.
Yeah.
And I'm pretty sure this is her Twitter. It's not verified. It's AmandaBettula_. But it says creative director, graphic designer, and Summer House cast member on BravoTV.
But she's not.
I was going to say pretty easy to.
Why don't you look if she has, like, a verified one? Just.
There wasn't. This is all I found.
OK, so.
How many followers does she have?
30,000?
Hmm. It's possible.
Yeah.
Is this her?
Also, like, I imagine, like, in the aftermath of West's mandeval, like, she blew up her life, and he felt bad for his ex-wife and just, like, wants to be there for her because she doesn't know what she's doing, or so he thought. But it's almost six months later.
Yeah.
She's in a long-term relationship at this point, I would say. West has committed to her. If he was cheating on her or.
We would know.
Everyone would know.
Uh-huh.
So now she seems to be in a happy relationship. Whether it's one that anybody would want or that people approve of is one thing, but, like, it's not like she blew all of this up for no relationship at all. And he's not abandoned her.
And that's.
And he's also just lost relevancy. Like.
Why don't you talk into the microphone? That might help.
He's also just lost relevancy. Like, I feel like.
To Kyle?
Yeah, I feel like everybody around him is, like, doing other big things. I think he picked his big thing as lover boy. That's what he chose. We just saw that clip of him and Craig where he was talking about how lover boys.
On the brink of bigger every day.
And I can say that it's very, very difficult to own and run a beverage company. That's a very hard but he picked it. That was the thing that he picked. Everybody else seems to have picked other things.
I feel like he's DJing.
Yeah.
OK, well, that's a terrible thing to pick.
I agree.
Like, what are you doing?
That's definitely not.
Where's longevity in DJing?
No, but it's, like, there's less money up front. He just makes money. He doesn't have to spend money.
Yeah.
Ooh.
I don't even think it's so much the.
You just pay Alexa paycheck as opposed to running a business and buying inventory and paying employees.
No, the thing is with the.
Oh, you're saying DJing over.
DJing makes more money for him than a lover boy.
Yeah, definitely. No question. I don't even think it's a relevance thing. I think that if Amanda and West are not on the season of In the City, like, what is Kyle's.
Nothing. He's alone.
Storyline? Like, he gets to be the hero still. I'm, like, the victim. Look, my mean ex-wife ran away with my friend. And if they're not there, like, what are you? You're just the guy we know, an asshole.
Yeah.
Who used to yell at his wife and is now, like, pretending he's not that guy. That's why he's frustrated. He's lost his whole plot line and his whole, like, victim card.
Yeah.
She's not there. We can't even talk about it.
And also, like, meanwhile, he spent the last six months DJing, like, hooking up with other people, spotting with other people. Sally Carson says whenever she sees Kyle, like, it's on.
They have a bed.
So it's not like he's sitting, waiting, crying for Amanda and would take her back in a heartbeat. Like, my wife has been manipulated and stolen from me. Like, he lives large and then, like, doesn't, like she lives a very, like, quiet.
Yep. They go to Milwaukee.
Committed relationship. They go to baseball football games, and they play with the dogs. Like, you're the one out there.
Living that life.
Being crazy.
Yeah. I just, like, I can't stand him.
Yeah. I don't think.
You kind of look like him.
I mean, this is.
You do.
You do. You do.
You do.
Maybe it's, like, a form of self-hatred.
You do. You do look like him.
Yeah.
I think this is sort of backfired for him. I mean, of course, his original comment, like, was obviously not well thought out. You don't just accuse someone of being, like, a cokehead. And I'm sure, like, everyone in this cast, in one way or another, like.
Has participated in this.
Participates in recreational drugs. So, like, I don't really think that.
Yeah, you're telling us Kyle.
That doesn't stick because I was never on the same game.
Because up till 6:00 a.m.
Right. Literally.
Literally.
So it was just, like, a sloppy comment, more like, you a cokehead that blew and it's it the grammar is poor.
You a cokehead.
You don't go to war with poor grammar. You don't.
Agreed. It's a bad comment.
Mm-hmm.
This wig is so hot.
Oh, please, don't even talk to me.
I love my wig.
Why? This wig is so hot.
I'm wearing a wig, a mustache, a goatee, and a child in my belly.
That's true.
So. All right, I'm so excited.
Oh, big announcement, Derek.
You're going to be an auntie.
Yeah, we're really excited, me and my fiancé.
And you already have a baby, right?
Do I?
I think you do.
I love being a father.
You're a great father.
Oh, I wish he was with you, but.
Just like you're a great brother. Just like you're the best brother.
I couldn't be better.
Are you my big brother or my little brother? You're so my big brother.
Really? I feel like I'm so your little brother.
No, I think you're I think you're big brother.
Really?
I think so. Of course you are, Derek.
I am big brother?
Mm-hmm.
Big brother Derek.
Big brother Dee. Do we have any other siblings? I feel sorry for them.
We couldn't possibly have other siblings.
You don't. We couldn't possibly.
Oh, were you the get. Blades of Glory, those twins that they the dancing twins.
They have three older sisters, the Huffs. Oh, yeah, they're Mormon, right? So they have, like, a lot of siblings. We, sorry, we have a lot of siblings.
Yeah.
What were the twin dancers.
And we love them all.
What were the twin dancers in Blades of Glory? What was their name? Oh, I've never seen Blades of Glory.
Winklevoss twins? Or are those real people?
I was going to say, you know what I feel like?
Vontrap.
Vontrap is sound and music.
The Van Waldenbergs.
You know what I feel like today?
I think they're mostly models, you guys.
Do you know what I feel like today?
Hmm.
I feel like we're, like, streamers. Like, like H3. Like, there's, like, 1,000 people. We all have mics, cameras, angles, and it's, like, we're just, like, cutting between. Have you ever seen H3?
No.
No.
We are H3 today.
And now I never will.
Yeah.
What do you think about that, Derek?
Oh, unaffected.
You've been unaffected by H3.
By the H3 regret and.
Reggie knews.
Breaking news, Derek Huff doesn't care.
Derek, that's what I'm not like. You're such an empath. What about Hila?
Yeah, you're not.
This is a good idea.
This is a good fan.
It's not a toast to being a fitness and sweating through his costume.
It's something.
It's true.
We're sweating through our costumes.
By the way, I'm not even sweating.
Sweating solo camera.
I'm not sweating. I'm in just, like, a dry heat. I'm just, like, my face is just warm. I feel like I have a fever.
We need to make a montage. Like, every you know what it is? Actually, every year, you also wear makeup.
Yeah.
Do you think that your skin doesn't let react well to makeup?
Maybe.
We would.
Hot.
Carrion, come to my trailer. I have some allergy-free.
I have some menopause medication for you.
Oh, hot.
I have some sensitivity.
Carrion's going through perimenopause.
I have to take this off for one second.
No, you can't.
OK.
By the way, once you take it off, you'll never put it back on.
OK, OK.
The episode's almost over. Don't worry.
So hot.
Oh, hot.
So hot.
All right, what's the next story?
Next story, Kim Kardashian undergoes surgery for irregularities.
But not her tissue.
Esophagitis.
What's irregularity?
Irregularity.
Irregularities.
Esophagitis diagnosis. So on the new episode of Kardashians, which we will see tomorrow, not whatever, she has to undergo surgery for irregularities in her throat after a recent esophagitis diagnosis, something she shared was she was worried about given her family's cancer history. So she said, "So I've seen a couple of doctors, and it's been heavy on my mind lately. I haven't really told too many people about this just because I think it's something that really hits home for me, and I just don't want to go there. With my dad having passed away from esophagus cancer, hopefully, I can just take this medication, and this will go away." But then in the preview, she's shown entering a hospital.
The doctor says her esophagus has these irregularities, and I have to cut them out. It's the same thing my dad had.
Yeah, that's actually really scary.
Yeah.
Everyone knows Robert Kardashian passed of esophageal cancer.
Mm-hmm.
So, like, I usually, like, hate when people share their medical, like, diagnoses on reality TV. It's such a boring storyline, but this is actually sad and scary.
And she truly got surgery, like, and she didn't show it. It would be, like, why? Just because someone might be bored? That's really what she's going through.
Yeah, it's nice to see her being open about her surgeries.
Yeah.
After yesterday's conversation.
Yeah.
Kim, do you Kim, Carrion, do you think that Kim Kardashian's ass is real?
No. And that's that on that.
OK.
OK. Do you know something, Carrion?
Oh. Do you go to the same doctor?
I do know.
What do you know?
That it's not real.
You know.
How do you know?
It just is it's not real.
That's beautiful.
One thing that's real: our love, Derek.
A little too real.
Don't you find?
I'm cracking up. The Huffs are going to seriously hate us after this, and that was just, like, never my intention.
The thing is, is that to be an artist is to be understood.
Mm-hmm.
As I'm always saying.
The Huffs are not going to hate you. This is by the way, this is Dancing With The Stars promo. They should be paying us.
Derek left us a hate comment a little while ago.
You're kidding.
It wasn't a hate comment.
What was it?
I put up a clip that was, like, a little snarky. I'll take responsibility for that.
OK.
And he was just, like, in the comment section, like, talking.
Well, I hope that everybody loves this because it's hot.
We'll be mindful of our clips.
Oh, for sure.
We'll be minding our P's and Q's in the clips today.
Are you ready for our next story? A little business news from we're business people.
We do.
Sure.
DoorDash is buying Instacart.
I saw this.
For $17 billion.
And I just want to say, if they touch one hair on the head of Instacart, I will go to headquarters myself and start rolling heads.
I have a I have a hair for them to touch.
What?
On Instacart's head.
Produce?
Produce.
Oh, yeah.
No, no, this is a huge problem. I.
I don't do produce on Instacart.
But isn't that annoying? Like, you're getting the convenience of ordering some of your groceries.
Yeah.
But not all because it is such bad produce.
Well, so I personally have always believed that Instacart has a deal with the supermarkets, that the shoppers will take the worst of the supermarket produce.
What are you talking? Like, a genius?
Right? Because no one else would.
Of course they do.
And you can't really, like, return it. Like.
Of course they do.
You're stuck with it.
So I think that they have a deal.
Genius.
I think it's.
They absolutely do.
It's not a.
They're going to go and pick the perfect avocado?
No.
No.
People don't utilize.
They're going to help out the grocery store. It's not a bug. It's a feature.
You're right.
People don't utilize the return feature on.
No.
Instacart enough. Like, it's laborious and annoying, but you almost always get your money back. So if you say, "Hi, I got apples," and three of them came bruised, they'll give you your money back.
You get your money back, but you don't get your apples.
I know.
Or your time.
So true, Carrion.
I also I have another critique of Instacart, even though I love it. You guys know how I feel. You should be able to order from multiple stores in one order.
Can you not?
No, you order from, like, a store, and that's an order, and then it's another order from another store. Like, different delivery guys. But I would like if, like, someone could do all my errands for me, you know?
Oh, okay.
I'm more so looking for an assistant.
I think it's a hassle grabbing.
Like, because a lot of times, I like to get, like, my beverages from Costco, like, bulk.
Sure.
But my produce, like, from the grocery store.
Yeah, but you have to think about, like, that person's day and, like, that they're doing a bunch of cost orders. They need to deliver then.
You know, I'm going to be completely honest. I'm thinking about my day.
Yeah.
I'm not thinking about the guy's day.
You can place multiple orders. I feel like that's.
It's just, like, annoying.
Yeah.
And there's multiple, like, delivery charges and, like, taxes.
I feel like it is. Yeah, I'm not I'm not positive.
Sorry.
I'm not.
Please, of course.
I'm not positive, Derek, on this critique.
Sounds like Derek's being a diva. Classic brother.
I'm not positive, Derek, on this critique.
But here's the news. DoorDash is buying rival Instacart in a deal worth roughly $17 billion, signaling that the delivery wars continue to heat up. The deal announced.
I thought they had taken a break at the delivery wars.
No. And remember, like, Uber Eats owns Postmates. Postmates doesn't exist anymore.
Oh, my God. Postmates was, like, in the city. Oh, my God.
It was really just so you could get a what was that sushi place?
Yeah, Sugarfish.
Sugarfish.
Sugarfish.
Sugarfish, you could order.
Was on Postmates.
On Postmates.
I was thinking about Sugarfish recently. I really like some Sugarfish.
And Postmates was, like, a verb.
Yeah.
Postmates.
Postmates, yeah. And now Postmates is gone.
Postmates.
Postmates.
It's gone.
Postmates.
Thanks, Alphonso.
Thanks, Derek, always calling me.
If you had 15 bill, what company are you buying? I'm buying Spirit Halloween.
That's a cash cow.
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
15 billion.
You only have to, like, 15 months out of the year.
Right. That so works for me.
You live, like, 10 months for two.
For two.
$15 billion. What company am.
Like, what huge company that you think is.
Buying.
A sure-fire return?
I love your Spirit Halloween call. That is a cash cow.
Shell Silver soon.
I'm sure that I could buy, like, a Quick Serve chain. Not McDonald's, but, like, I could buy, like.
Yeah, you could.
Chick-fil-A.
Or, like, Mo's.
Mo's Southwest.
Jackie Mo's?
Mo's is not worth $1 over, like, a million.
I love where your brain went. When was the last time you had Mo's?
You're thinking, like, a mid-size franchise.
Mo's?
Yeah.
Ben, we had Mo's recently.
By the way, Mo's is great.
You should.
It's a better Chipotle.
Mo's.
You should.
Even, like, Dos Toros is, like, at least the better version of Mo's.
You've been living in Florida for too long.
By the way, there are no Mo's in Florida.
Yes, there are.
There are.
There was just a Mo's, like.
You could buy Pollo Tropical.
I could buy Pollo.
No, you should buy Miami Subs, Miami Grill.
But that's not a good return on investment.
No, but you you I think you could buy it at all price.
You could buy it at all price.
You could buy it at a really low price because they're not doing well right now.
$15 billion is a lot. Couldn't I buy Jersey Mike's for $15 billion?
Maybe, yeah.
Jersey Mike's, a sub above. They do a pretty good job.
Do you like Jersey Mike's?
No.
What like, of all the sub chains.
Subway.
Really?
Eat fresh?
I don't eat it, but I just, like, missed out.
That's not true. I saw you were there the other day getting nachos.
OK, I tried the nachos. Yeah, no, I'm not a fan of a chain sandwich place. They just, like, are never good.
We need to open, like, a small mom-and-pop sandwich place.
Strawberry.
Oh, we're doing this again. We're back. OK.
Do you hear that the streets, like, think that we might be opening Strawberries?
There's like.
Have you ever heard that?
No, but that makes sense.
You're even more unplugged than I.
It's the streets.
It's Ben's dream to open a QSR.
People are saying that we are opening a sandwich.
Do you know my do you know my my sandwich concept?
We've discussed this, and mine's Strawberries, and we have creative differences.
You oh, have you heard Ben's?
You don't know my new one.
My real one.
Scoops.
This is my real one. Scoops.
Let's hear it.
You want to hear it?
Let's hear it.
You know Cold Stone? How they have a cold stone?
Yes.
You're familiar.
It's an ice cream shop.
Instead of ice cream, Jackie, tuna salad, chicken salad, egg salad. You pick your protein. We put your protein right on the cold slab. We're then adding in chopped pickles, chopped onions, maybe a little jalapeños, maybe a little bit of corn if you're crazy. We throw in some mayonnaise, mustard, vinaigrette, whatever you want. You put it into just a scoop, or you could put it on a sandwich or on a salad.
Carrion, the businesswoman.
And that is just a scoop.
Yeah, Carrion.
You like it?
Yeah. What's stopping you?
Jackie, you know who else you look like?
I'm.
You look like a character from Game of Thrones.
Oh, for sure.
Do you want to know my other concept?
You look like a Lannister.
A Targaryen.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I meant.
Do you like my other restaurant concept?
Sure.
And you'll tell me which one is better.
OK.
Because I think just a scoop really has some some scoop.
Dream big.
Benny Juana. It is Benny Juana.
Mexican.
I think you've told me this.
Mexican. Think of it. Flat top, fajitas. People love a shrimp skewer right on there. You know, you flip it over.
Mm-hmm.
You can do the tortillas. We can make quesadillas. What can't you make on that black stone?
Mm-hmm.
Benny Juana.
I think you told me that. I think you said it some time on this show because I remember people weighed in.
OK, so just a scoop.
Just a scoop.
I think that's the better one, right?
Yeah, that sounds good.
OK.
Smelly.
Do you have one?
For a restaurant? Strawberries.
So we're just, like, making tomato mozzarella?
We're just yeah, it's kind of like.
And then, of course, the next story, we turn to these warm bowls.
And the strawberries is kind of like something about her, I would say.
Definitely.
But I make the bread myself.
Right.
And I don't know what goes on. It's something about her.
You're not going to sell merch.
And practicality. But it's.
Are they out of business?
No.
We're not sure.
I don't think so.
Got it.
When I was in LA for the Mess Singer, I I walked by it.
And it was in business?
Tell us about that, Derek.
It wasn't open right then and there.
That's so Derek.
But it's like.
It is in business.
It looks like they were actively in business.
They are.
But not at that point.
Well, I wish them well.
Yeah, I think it's I think it does well. And I think it's a like, yeah, that's what Strawberries would be, but just a little more homely, I would say.
I'm going to rip this fucking thing off my face.
It's awful. It's awful. Is yours tight?
It's OK. The wig cap is tighter.
We just have, like, so many TikToks to make after the show. Like, I can't think my beard off.
Oh, gosh.
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Can you see my foot?
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OK, well, let's do another story, shall we? Oh, you know what everyone wants us to talk about, but I don't really care. But I'll do it because there's not a lot of stories.
Mm-hmm.
The Chrisley girl and her engagement.
Now, one thing about me, I'm not going to say anything bad about Savannah Chrisley. She just followed me on TikTok. And I love the work she did to get her.
She's the daughter.
To get her father out of jail. Like, that was.
Did she get out of jail?
Yeah, she literally got her parents pardoned and, in the meantime, like, took care of their whole family while they were gone. She's a stand-up gal. People are freaking out at her.
She's pregnant, and she got married to a businessman who is 56, a year younger than her dad, who apparently was in jail with her dad and who was also.
Wow.
Pardoned by Trump.
Wow.
Yeah. It's obviously.
That's a lot.
Crazy. But as Julianne and I know, like, you can't get in the way of true love.
Yeah, I I mean, I don't know. Like, when I saw she was pregnant and she got married, I was like, great. And now everyone's, like, coming out with all these red flags. But like you said, she seems like she has a good head on her shoulders.
Yeah, like.
So that's what she wants to do.
You know what this great news calls for?
A dance?
A dance.
Me?
Yes.
I think Carrie.
I can't get off.
I'm too hot.
You're not doing a whole lot of dancing. Is it because you're wearing pants under your dress?
It's because I have to move the show along, brother. The executives don't like when I dance too much.
Is there something where if your head gets really hot, your feet get really cold?
I think that's, like, a loss of circulation.
I have a loss of circulation.
OK, so you take your weight off.
My feet are freezing.
Should we all just, like, take a little break?
I'll stay.
My feet.
You could take your weight off, Carrie.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
You actually look more like a woman without the wig.
Oh, my God. He looks like a woman in the 20s.
Oh, with her hair slicked back.
Like, you put a little curl on the side.
Oh, my God.
Oh, he looks like Jackson.
I look like Billy Andrews.
Yeah.
You look like Betty Boop.
No, but I do look like a Downton character too.
You look like Mary.
Yeah, you look like you're from Downton.
You look like Mary when she cut her hair.
Oh, I look like Mary when she cut her.
No, you seriously look like Betty Boop. I'm so much happier.
Oh, my God. This wig was hell on earth. My feet are starting to warm up.
You can see the ridges.
What is the style? Like, the ridging in the hair?
Yeah. No, and the.
Tilt your no, actually, no.
Yeah, no, it's like, like that curl that what's her name used to do?
With the gel An Anna.
Anna and also the one with the soap, her ladyship soap. What's that lady's name?
Barrister, whatever. Like, her ladyship soap.
Oh, my God.
If you know those three words, it's.
Who uttered those immortal words?
Wow.
I just want to say.
I'm back in business.
Red is your color.
I'm back in business. Is it?
Yeah, I was.
We'll be auctioning off this wig.
I was.
How many do you think somebody would pay for this wig?
They shouldn't pay more than $3.
More than what you paid, plus it's used.
Right, right.
We probably paid a lot.
Half of what? It's from Amazon.
It was Amazon? It wasn't Instacart?
It was $15.
It was Instacart ads and $9 premium when we added it on Amazon.
You're telling me? That's why there's a $15 billion valuation.
$15 billion.
Instead of $15.
OK, I'm just going to put this over here.
Was it $15?
But don't put the wig too far. We have to make TikToks after this.
$17.
No, it's right over there. What was the story? Oh, the Chrisley's.
The Chrisley's.
Oh, wow.
So here's the news. So she the couple got engaged in the Cayman Islands five months into their romance in December 2025. Savannah shared on her podcast on Tuesday.
Savannah?
He proposed with a massive oval cut diamond ring that he designed with Genevieve Stuller, a prominent family-owned and operated jewelry store based in St. Louis. At the time.
I know people want me to, like, care. And, like, I don't.
She also revealed on her podcast that they're expecting their first baby together.
Yeah, they were supposed to be getting married. Like, they had a big elaborate wedding planned, I think, for January. But obviously.
How long has she and her how long has her dad and her now husband been out of prison?
At least a year, maybe more.
I'm saying because.
They have a podcast. It's called, like, Unchained or whatever.
Is there any chance that they're this baby is vis-a-vis a conjugal visit? She was visiting her dad.
No. No, I don't think so. There's been more than enough time. I highly recommend listening to the Chrisley Parents podcast. It's one of the funniest things I've ever heard in my life. They talk about prison.
I loved that show.
And if I ever were to meet them, I would want to ask them, like, what qualified them at the time to get a show? They were just, like, this random family. They weren't famous.
He was funny.
Yeah, they had, like, this funny dad. But, like.
But they were, like, pretty rich.
A lot of people's dads are funny.
Mm-hmm.
If you're will if you're rich and willing to show your life.
It's a great question.
It is, right?
You ask the best questions.
You could learn something from me.
I think I'm doing a great job. Nothing's going to stop me. You know that.
I love that tenacious attitude. Do you think that comes from your childhood?
I definitely do. I think it comes from my background as a dancer.
Mm-hmm.
Nothing's going to stop me. Nothing's going to bring me down. You know, when I played the titular character in Footloose.
Of course.
Ariel.
Ariel. You should have dressed up as Ariel Footloose version.
Of course.
Oh, my gosh. Those were the glory days, you know? Those were the days.
Yes.
When people respected dance.
Yeah.
I feel they're going to come back, brother.
Too, if you ever.
I do.
What are you, at a restaurant, like, ordering beverages?
You asked me for a water.
I did, bro.
You're walking me under the bus.
You were supposed to be subliminal.
What are you doing?
You were like.
You were asking for beverages.
No, you were like, yeah, you just asked me. Yeah, you were supposed to be subliminal. Like, if I wanted to stop the whole show and be like, hey, can I get a water? I would have done that too. But, like, you're acting like you're at a restaurant. Like, hey, can we get the bill?
Like, hey, can we get two waters?
Betty Boop is thirsty.
Betty Boop is thirsty.
I'm trying to figure out who you look like now.
Just, like, literally Claudia on Toast to Wien. Sorry. I saw the blood drain.
You said Claudia. I was like, you're a bitch.
Thank you.
I look like Claudia? You're kidding.
No, like, this is always your base for Toast to Wien.
Agreed. I always end up at the end of the episode.
And it's like, you just swap out a wig. But this is you.
True.
Like, I'm having flashbacks.
Holy shit. I need a cigarette.
Carrie.
This is wow. I wish this was a vodka.
Wow, Carrie. Come to my trailer.
Oh, that water was good.
Guys, you wonder how I maintain my positive attitude.
She's getting dicked down in the trailer.
No.
Vodka and cigarettes.
Oh, oh, yeah, sorry.
We're drinking.
Dicked down. We're two women.
Oh, right.
Isn't that who gets dicked down? I don't.
Yeah, but somebody needs a dick. It's me.
OK. I'm better now. I can't. OK, so if you guys, like, want to just have hot takes about the Chrisley's, we don't.
No, I don't.
Sorry. And you know what? My take is Mazel Tov she's pregnant and she's married. Like, how exciting for her.
My take is that it's fucking weird.
Can you say the same?
My take is that it's fucking weird.
Jealous.
Oh.
Oh, Ben thinks it's weird. Are you going to give your
time to talk?
OK, give people what they want.
It's weird. Her dad's friend from jail that's his age impregnated his daughter.
How would you feel if your father married someone your age?
Impregnated his daughter.
And married her.
That's really weird. That's really weird.
And you just bet a number, Carrie.
Agreed.
Oh, maybe I'll know that.
You should know that as a woman of a certain age.
That would be really weird.
OK, Betty.
You're just jealous, Carrie.
You're literally Betty. Like, I actually can't with you.
That would be really weird.
And that's our show. 10, 7, 1, 71.
Give me that pen.
Where is the pen?
It might be sitting on yeah, here. Oh, here. Fresh pen. Oh, OK. What are you going to give it, Carrie? What's your final rating? Uh-oh.
10 out of 10.
10 out of 10.
10 out of 10. Like a tiny little handwriting.
OK, let's do it again. Critical.
No, no, it's good. It's good.
No.
Well, thank you, Derek. Thank you, Carrie. Thank you, Alphonso.
And thank you.
Nobody ever thinks of me, right?
How's that?
That's good. Thank you, Julianne.
Always the.
Thank you so much, Julianne.
Always the thinker. Never the thinky.
Sheparding the show.
Thank you, Moira slash Daenerys slash Julianne.
Julianne Todd Merrion.
Yeah.
And thank you.
Thank you, Betty slash Carrie. And, of course, thanks to Kyle Trump.
Fieri.
Fieri Huff.
Correct.
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Uh-oh.
Good?
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