In this Thursday episode of The Toast, hosts Jackie and Claudia Oshry start with sweet potato Maxxing and candy debates before moving through pop culture news. They discuss Jen Affleck's divorce filing after announcing a pregnancy, Whitney Leovitt's reported Hulu series, Sophia Franklin's bartending turn on Watch What Happens Live, and Lindsay Hubbard's upcoming memoir.
They also cover Kim Kardashian and Jennifer Lawrence's matching pajamas and a Skims campaign, then finish with listener advice from the Dear Toasters segment. The hosts share their opinions on each story, so listeners get a comedic, opinionated recap of reality TV news.
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Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jax and Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast.
They sound amazing.
Welcome back to the Toast, and happy Wednesday—nope, Thursday!
Thursday this week is just flying.
What a little treat. Happy Thursday, latter half energy. Hope everybody's having an amazing day. Hope everyone's having an amazing day. Hey, Jax, how are you doing?
I'm doing good, thank you. Oh, maybe I should be a little more specific. I'm actually—I'm feeling a little bit disoriented, actually. Like, just, I don't know.
I love the specificity.
Sometimes, like, I just—I'm in a fog. I feel this—
Clearly me too, I thought it was Wednesday.
This is my second coffee, which I haven't done since before my Maxx pregnancy. So I think that tells you how I'm doing. How are you doing?
I would think you'd be doing a lot better.
Because I'm with my sister, who I love.
Of course. But also.
Because I'm with my sister, who I love.
Because we sweet potato Maxxed last night.
We did sweet potato Maxx last night. I was so excited to talk about this. So we actually had a great night last night. My friend Rebecca—you guys might know her from the book club.
Of Redhead's fame?
Of Redhead's fame. We called her Becky on the show. She came—she's in Florida, so she came to visit us yesterday. She hung around, we had dinner together, and we decided to sweet potato Maxx. So.
Which, if you're not familiar with, like, what's going on in the trends in the food space, the protein Maxxers are now sweet potato Maxxing, where they're eating ground beef and sweet potato and, like, making different bowls.
Yeah.
Like, in different variations, but always sticking with the main components of, like, your carb being your sweet potato and your protein being your ground beef. It's very like, you know, Manosphere pot—and we're here podcasting after sweet potato Maxxing. Like, we're literally Andrew Tate and his brother.
We're living in the Manosphere.
Yeah.
So I like to make burger bowls for dinner, like hamburger bowls, but Ben and I have been casually discussing sweet potato Maxx.
You have been.
Sending him videos.
Sweet potato Maxx curious.
Yes, and I've been sending him videos, and we just both want a sweet potato Maxx. Plus, the babies love sweet potatoes, so it's like everybody could be sweet potato Maxxing.
Yeah. Kind of everyone but me. Because I had to have a separate meal made that actually looked like it was for Romeo.
It was very sad.
Jackie got a rotisserie chicken from the kosher grocer, which I love, a rotisserie chicken. And we had some leftover white rice. Like, my plate was bright white. It was, like, blinding me in the eye, and everybody else had, like.
And the colors!
Orange, sweet potato, brown beef, lettuce, and tomatoes and onions. My plate, I swear, if I had picked the bowl up and put it on the floor for Bruno, nobody would have been surprised.
Yeah, it did look like something very bland. But that's what you wanted. So anyways.
It was so good.
We had our hamburger bowls with a side of sweet potato Maxxing.
But you don't feel better?
Well, I definitely wasn't hungry last night. I don't think I had an after-dinner snack, now that I think about it.
I did.
What did you have?
I found your husband's candy stash, after claiming that the trigger treaters ate it all.
Oh, I'm sorry. I had two of those little Hershey's nuggets.
I found his stash after he just lied straight to my face and said that, like, trigger treaters.
I've been meaning to send you a picture and say, like, Biggie kept some. Biggie lied. So what have you?
Yeah, he did. And he kept full-size bars. It's not like he kept, like, you know, the bad stuff.
The laughy taffy.
No, he got this Costco industrial-sized mixed box—box, not bag—of KitKat, Reese's cup, like, two huge cup. There might have been a Snickers in there.
And Hershey bars.
And Hershey—Hershey with almond, which is not my favorite.
So we put out a huge bowl of candy on Halloween, so trigger treaters could come and take what they wanted, because we were out trigger treating. And when we came back to the house, like, it was totally empty. And everyone's like, "Oh my gosh, oh no." I'm like, "No." Zach, like, keeps reserves for himself, and he's going to have to put out his personal collection.
So he, like, hunched his shoulders and, like, walked back into the house.
He was like, "Really? I have to put out the full bars?" I was like, "Yes, you have to put out the full bars."
So he went in and bought the full bars, and he was, like, just acting, like, so devastated. Honestly, I'm impressed by his acting skills. He had another—he only put one out of two out, and he also had another bag of, like, little Hershey.
Those are new addition. I think he bought those yesterday.
Okay, okay.
So then when I went in the next day and I saw in the laundry room, there were still a box of full-size bars. Like, Biggie kept some for himself.
Notorious B-I-G. Don't worry, Ben and I took care of it. We, like, we went whole.
And every time I saw that box this week, I meant to send you a picture of me, like, "Don't worry about Zach, he kept some for himself."
And I had a KitKat. I don't have KitKats enough.
KitKats are amazing.
KitKats are amazing.
But my number one.
Is Twix.
Is Twix.
You're wrong for that.
I love Twix.
My number one, like, might be KitKat.
That's fair. That's a good one.
But it also, like, has historically always been Milky Way.
That's disgusting.
It's crazy that when I say that.
I hate Milky Way.
Everyone is like, "Really? Milky Way?"
You could, like, offer me a.
It's like the most classic.
You could offer me a Milky Way, like, in the middle of the day, like, or even after, as, like, a sweet treat after lunch, and I'd be like, "Ugh."
Oh my God. That's insane. Because—and you know they make Milky Way, like, extra caramel?
Mm-hmm.
Oh no, Milky Way—I mean, it's disgusting. They make Milky Way, like, extra caramel. It's, like, so fucking good. Every time. It's, like, one of my shockingly most unpopular opinions.
Yeah.
But as I've grown, I have realized that KitKats, they might be taking over. KitKats are so good.
Yeah. They're a beautiful thing.
And they come in multiple different sizes and formats, and they taste different and, like, better every time.
Yeah, because the chocolate-to-wafer ratio keeps changing.
Yeah. But I do love, like, the classic Big Four sticks.
Yeah.
Those are delicious.
Love KitKat. And then, of course, I also love Almond Joy.
And your Almond Joy is my Milky Way, even though I think Milky Way is, like, so much more palatable and universally liked than Almond Joy.
I agree. I would agree with you on that. Like, Almond Joy is, like, sort of a hot take, except it turns out everybody actually loves it. Everybody loves it. And I think Milky Way—it's like, you think it's obvious. You think it's, like, a Snickers. But it's not.
Okay, but, like, so everyone agrees that, like, Snickers are better than Milky Way. I totally disagree.
Yes. Snickers—like, and if you said your favorite was Snickers, I'd be like, "Oh, classic." It's not my favorite, but that's normal.
Although I do want to say, you're not you when you're hungry. Like, that whole campaign.
It's not you.
Snickers are extremely filling. Like, the peanuts—like, sometimes you eat candy.
Yes, protein.
Yeah, sometimes you eat candy.
Your Snickers Maxxing.
You're not full and you feel disgusting.
Your Snickers Maxxing.
With Snickers, of course you feel disgusting afterwards when you eat, like, the whole one. But you do feel full, like, for a few hours. And, you know, they say a Kind bar is just as unhealthy as a Snickers.
I believe it.
Me too.
I do believe it.
And then, like, lots of the marketing when it comes to candy. "Break me off a piece of that KitKat bar. Give me a break. Give me a break. Break me off a piece." I actually just watched a TikTok about how that commercial—like, you know, at the time, KitKats were extremely unpopular. And the whole, like, coffee break, give me a break, made KitKat the number one candy bar in the world. And they were, like, lowkey, like, losers struggling.
Interesting. That's, like, the Twix one with the left and right factory.
I think that's the worst marketing campaign.
And it's like you could have two lefts. Like, it's just stupid.
And it's such, like, politically, like.
You thought it was divisive times.
You thought so? I never even thought of it like that.
I thought there were people who were only buying left Twix and people who were only buying right Twix. I never even thought about it like that.
I just think it created the divide—it made the divide in this country even worse. And I think the Mars company has a lot to explain.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Well, that's your candy update for the day.
Yes. Don't worry, I ate candy last night. It was so good.
And we had sweet potato. And if you've been thinking about sweet potato Maxxing, so good. We just cut the sweet potatoes in half.
Mashed it with a fork.
No, no, no. Then placed them in the oven to roast. One hour, 400.
Sure.
400 degrees. Olive oil, salt. Skin up, flesh down. And then we are Maxxing.
Chilling out Maxx and relaxing on cool.
Shooting some bebop outside of the school. I—I think I might Maxx again.
Wow.
Yeah. I think I might.
Don't overdo it, sister. Don't overdo it.
Because you could do, like, a taco theme.
Yeah, of course you could change the ethnicity of your sweet potato. You can go to the Caribbean. You can go Latina. Of course.
I think I might—
Italian.
I might have a Latina sweet potato tonight. An Italian sweet potato. Buongiorno.
Correct. You could go Mediterranean, do, like, a hummus pita.
Oh, interesting.
You could really.
I love Mediterranean night, but it's a lot of chopping.
Mediterranean is not my favorite cuisine. Probably because it's, like, the cuisine that's probably the healthiest. Like, Italian is fat as fuck.
Yeah.
Asian, you could go either way.
Yeah, you could make it fat.
An Asian sweet potato bowl sounds nice as well.
That does. And we could have your Belindas.
My Belindas! You guys knew when I was on my Weight Watchers journey, which I will be on again soon.
But Belindas is good anytime.
Yes, but I only discovered it because I was in this, like, underground Facebook group for, like, people who needed to eat on Weight Watchers, but, like, wanted to exert zero points. And I got a couple of recipes, some of which are still used to this day, true story. And they were, like, "You have to get this chili sauce to make your—" because you can use unlimited. Usually the sauce is where the points get you. And so I discovered my Belindas Thai Chili. What do you guys know about Belindas Thai Chili? I think everyone knows. I think it's, like, a huge company.
I only know about it from you.
Yeah, I know. But, like, you're not a sauce person.
I'm not a sauce, but, like, Ben made a sauce. It was very collaborative as well, you know, because Ben made his yum yum sauce, or special sauce, sorry.
I'm sorry that everybody just had to see me, like, put my whole mouth on the water bottle.
It is what it is.
These days, like, I can't get enough water.
That's great. That's good.
It is, but, like, I haven't drank still water.
Me neither.
I am living proof that drinking seltzer is the same as drinking regular water, because if it wasn't, I would be dead. I've not picked up a bottle of just, like, Poland Spring, or down here, Zephyr Hills.
Oh no. We don't fuck with Zephyr. Pure life.
Who the fuck came up with that name?
Zephyr Hills. It must be the name of the town.
I'm like Poland Spring till I die.
Yeah, that's.
And they don't sell Poland Spring down here?
No. It's, it's really.
Could you get it, like, delivered? Like, that's an expense for taking it home.
Maybe from, like, Bed Bridges Universe or something.
Yeah, water's very regional.
Yeah. So Zephyr Hills is definitely a knock in the Florida column. But we have Pure Life, which is totally, like, normal and fine.
Kirkland.
Kirkland is normal and fine. But do not give me a Zephyr Hills.
We have dear toasters today. Just want to let you know, like, to be conscious of the time.
Okay. And we actually have great stories. Like, I literally sat down in the first five stories in my email. We're the first five stories.
Will we be discussing Sophia Franklin on Watch Robins Live?
We will. I'm going to find a way to work that in, because.
Because I have a rant?
It's need to discuss information.
I have a rant about our queen.
Okay, so someone's getting the boot. Who will it be?
Yeah. Well, no, I could just talk about it right now.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, I guess Cynthia Erivo is getting the boot. Yeah.
Well, she's running out of goodwill anyways.
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Our first story, Secret Lives, the Mormon Wives star. Jen Affleck files for divorce from her husband, Zach Affleck, four months after announcing their pregnancy with their fourth child. So Jen and Zach are going their separate ways. She filed for divorce from her husband after seven years of marriage. She filed on Tuesday in the Fourth Judicial District Court in Provo, Utah, according to the filing obtained by People. TMZ was the first to report the news, so.
But she's in the O.C. now.
As a reminder, four months ago they announced that they are pregnant with their fourth child. So as far as we know, she is pregnant.
Yeah, she is. I saw her last night. She went to the O.C. Premier.
And divorcing.
Which is, like, never a good place to be. And there's a lot of, like, jokes being made. And, like, we'll talk about all that, of course. But, like, at its core, this is, like, a tragedy, right? This is, like, a family with a lot of young kids and literally one that's not even born yet. And they're breaking up. It's awful. I do think that this show has been overwhelmingly bad for them. And it's funny because I saw, like, so many people being like, "Oh, he's the worst. So glad she got away from him." And it's like, my POV is like, "Ugh, she's the worst. I'm so glad he got away from her." Like, they're just so incompatible. And I think that's, like, a perfect example of, like, why people say you shouldn't get married young, because they've both changed so much.
Obviously, the fame is a huge factor. But they both, I think, like, took the fame and the success and just, like, did different things with it and became different people. And those two people are not compatible. They're really not. And I do feel like they tried, honestly. And, like, I can't even blame them for getting divorced, except for the fact that you have a child on the way. So it's like, try harder, barring some really bad circumstances. Like.
Yeah, I don't want to judge because I don't know what happened. But I do think that if you are getting divorced when you are pregnant, that things are terrible.
Yeah.
They have to be terrible.
Yeah.
Because nobody would do that.
Wants to do it alone.
Nobody would do it to themselves, to their family, especially with three other young children. And I don't want to, like, jump to conclusions because we have no idea what's going on. But last we saw them, from my perspective, like, she was having a mental break.
Yeah. And you also shouldn't make huge decisions when you're pregnant, period, because, like, you're not to be like, "Women are emotional." But, like, I'm pregnant right now, and I'm sure if you were to ask me my take on something, I would say this, and then in a year I would say something else. Like, your emotions really do, like, persuade you to feel things that, like, maybe are just heightened or maybe you don't feel or maybe it's the pregnancy rage. Like, it is a real thing that, like, you become a different person when you are pregnant. And I just wouldn't make any long-term decisions right now.
Yeah, which leads me to assume that something crazy has happened.
You think.
Because I don't think you do this unless something crazy has happened. You don't do this. This is.
Well, honestly, so many crazy things have happened between them.
But, like.
But yeah, recently.
You know, an unforgivable something.
Like a cheating.
Not just, like, "You're annoying me. We're incompatible."
But you want to go.
I want to sing.
The church, and I don't.
Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, those are normal marital problems that, like, we can deal with when we have the bandwidth, when we don't have such young children and I'm not pregnant.
Yeah, it could be deeper than that. It also could be, like, she's coming off of a really bad season where I think she got a lot of negative feedback, a lot of hate. She's also pregnant. So much of that hate had to do with her role in her marriage. Like, maybe that just, like, you know, makes it a tough marriage to be a part of.
Unacceptable.
Agreed. Agreed.
Like, and that's why this is hard for me to, like, speak on without, like, coming off a little bit judgmental.
Judgmental. Totally.
But this is a crazy thing to do if nothing crazy has happened and it's just your usual unhappy marriage. Like, at least just wait.
To give birth.
Give birth. Like, come to yourself. We say it a lot in Hero Toasters. I forget. Maybe you said it. You saw it somewhere. Like, don't make big decisions like this when you have a child under two.
Yeah. Unless, and we're always saying.
Barring extreme.
Circumstances.
Circumstances, abuse, et cetera.
Yeah.
Cheating.
Yeah. Yeah.
So that's why I'm not.
She also just has, like, a lot of change in her life, period. Like, she is leaving the Utah Wives. She's going to the O.C. Wives. Have they moved? Maybe they have to file in Utah because that's where they were legally married, but.
Not necessarily. She probably just popped into O.C. to film the show.
Yeah.
Like, she's just all over. And she.
She is.
Yeah. I think they really became, like, rootless when the show started and they, like, stopped going to church and they moved to Arizona and they moved to New York.
She left Medical School.
And now they moved to the O.C. And I what did he say? They've moved nine times in the last few years.
Yeah.
Like, these are not, like, great circumstances for, like, a young family.
No, and they've moved so many times, like, in pursuit of her career and her dreams. And those dreams, like, really haven't panned out. And I think that's why she was so resentful towards Whitney, who's, like, kind of doing it all and it seems impossible. She also has young kids and she moves a lot and her marriage was tested. But it seems just to be working out a lot better for her. So, like, it's no wonder she's so resentful of Whitney and, like, very clearly just jealous. A lot of people were, like, commenting that, you know, the timing of her announcement is just to, like, overshadow. Because yesterday, Whitney and her family made an announcement.
Yeah, we're going to talk about that next.
That they have a new show coming out. And, like, I don't I actually don't think it had anything to do with that. I think that also, you know, the O.C. Premier was last night. I saw a TikTok, like, that all the girls were together. So I think, like, net-net, this is, you know, positive for the show. And it does sort of cement not cement. It creates something for a storyline for Jen.
Well, yes, because for me, I'm like, "Give me Slamu now." Like, I need to understand what's going on between Jen and Zach that would lead to something like this. Like, for me, I'm like, whatever they're putting on, I'm I was going to watch anyway, but now I have to watch.
You know, and also, in terms of Jen and the new show, like, I don't really know what I would be tuning in. To me, the most interesting parts of Jen are her relationship with the Utah ladies. So now she's going to O.C. Well, now I have to watch. Like, I need to know what's going on.
Yeah. But I do think it's not just, like, a ploy for.
Attention.
Attention for the show.
Even though they announced a separation.
Exactly. Not a filing.
No.
She went home to Utah to file paperwork.
Yeah.
And I think that's just a really crazy place to be with three young children and pregnant.
Yeah.
And so I have to assume that, like, things have deteriorated far more than what we saw.
And maybe it's just, like, me being naive, but the last we saw of him.
We.
And he was and by the way, he was the wote in the beginning. I agree with everyone.
We know. We all know. We were all there.
He definitely seemed really sound of mind these last, like, two, three seasons. He was the one who was taking on a majority of the housework.
Very supportive.
Very supportive, but also, like, realistic. And that last conversation they had in the soda shop that he clearly is an investor in was actually, I think, like, it was a devastating scene, but it was quite a good scene for Zach because I think it made it sort of sort of cleared up a lot of the misconceptions about him that he is this, like, sort of unsupportive, old-school, traditional woman-in-the-kitchen type of no, he's been, like, very comfortable for many years, sort of following his wife around and taking on the majority of, like, the child-rearing, more domestic roles. And he just wanted to have that conversation offline, and she was sort of, like, exploiting it for the show.
And it was just a bad look for her. And so the last I saw of him, maybe he's a totally different guy offline, but the last I saw of him, I was like, "No, this is a guy who's trying."
Yes. And that was our take. I know some people disagreed with us that we thought, like, he was a good, supportive husband. And, like, we were in their domestic disputes, we were actually Team Zach because we saw of her. Like, now she wants to do Sports Illustrated.
And write music.
And write music. And she's, like, TikToking alone in New York with the other girls. She's going on this trip to see a girl that she hates. Like, every I thought all of her behavior she's, you know.
Was erratic.
Backing Taylor. I thought all of her behavior was so erratic. And I felt strange watching it. I can't say what I was seeing and feeling, but it just felt strange.
I think a lot of the fans, like, never moved on from Chippendale game.
Yeah.
Like, and so much has happened since then. I have sort of started to see another side of him since Dancing With the Stars.
Even in her confessionals, the way she was speaking, just something.
Crazy.
Was not aligned.
And I want to say that I feel she it's such an unfortunate time for her to be on TV because she's the type of person who's having multiple children really close together. So that's, like, six years of being pregnant, postpartum, breastfeeding. You're really not yourself at all until you're done. And with her, when she's done, she gets pregnant again. So, like, the cycle sort of continues. And I feel like she doesn't really know herself. We don't know her. And she's just sort of stuck in this cycle of, like, hormones. I know that's, like, terrible to say. It's like.
Yeah.
It's, like, reductive to women. But I'm experiencing it right now. I don't feel like I'm the best version of myself. I honestly don't even know who I am. I don't even know what to wear. Like, I'm just, like, sort of trudging through it until I can get back. And I had started to feel like myself before I got pregnant. So when you're doing it so quick back-to-back, like, I don't feel like you get an opportunity to sort of find yourself again. And she's doing it on a public stage. And so people are, of course, are critical.
No, and so and so that's why, like, I give grace even on Dancing With the Stars, I'm like, "Everyone be nice to Jen."
Yeah.
Like, "Shut up if you have something nasty to say." And those aren't necessarily my issues. But even, like, the fact that she, like, keeps growing her family and now is going to file for divorce pregnant, I can't compute it.
It's decisions that are incongruous with one another.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So hopefully we'll know more soon. But all in all, this is just very sad.
Yeah.
I haven't seen any jokes, but, like, I have no jokes to make about it.
No, it's bad. It's sad.
Our next story related, Secret Lives, Mormon Wives, star Whitney Leovitt gets her own reality show on Hulu. So six months after announcing she was leaving Slamu, Whitney Leovitt is back in business with Hulu. Deadline understands that Leovitt is set to star and produce her own show for Hulu. The streamer has greenlit the Untitled series, which comes from the Mormon Wives' producer and production houses. It will, quote, "Follow, firebrand Whitney Leovitt and her family as they navigate her newfound fame and career ambitions while always putting family first."
It sounds like House of Leovitt.
Yes. I think a lot of people have wanted this. I think a lot of people prayed for this. And I think a lot of people predicted this. Now, I do find her life so interesting because she's in a similar what we were just saying. Jen, young children, all these opportunities, marital scuffles, of course. Who could forget the great dating app saga? And she seems to be balancing it all perfectly. Now, of course, nobody's perfect. I'm interested in taking a peek under the hood. I really am.
I am, too. I just, like, get nervous about shows like this because they're never successful.
It is really hard. And the thing about Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is I don't really think any of them need their own show. The interesting part is the dynamics.
Yes. And also, no, like, I need a fifth of how you manage your home life. And then this one and then this one and this one. How are you going to fill an hour? It's hard to go from being part of an ensemble to filling the whole hour. Most people are unsuccessful in doing it. Well, also say that Whitney Leovitt is good at everything that she does.
True.
And I think she'll find success in this because she finds success in everything. I'm just saying, like, typically when someone leaves a show and starts their own show, it's very hard.
Even the biggest star from that show, Bethany.
Yeah.
Bethany Ever After and Bethany SSIU. Like, those were not huge hits.
Yeah.
And she was sort of, like, a guaranteed star.
Like, if I was on a successful ensemble show and everyone's like, "Yeah, you're on a show," it's like, no.
No, it's a trap.
It's a curse. It's a trap. Like, you think but it's like you get to shine when you have other people around you that, like, lift you up. It's just a better dynamic. And you have to have a lot going on in your life and a lot that you want to share for it to work and a lot of, like, supporting characters who we care about.
Stassi is a good example.
That's why I say House of Leovitt.
Yeah. Oh, they were talking about House of Dragon. Like.
House of.
Yeah, like Stassi. I think Stassi brought in, like, as many people as she could because it is almost impossible to do it. Even if you're the most interesting dynamic, funny, successful, it's just a lot of airtime to fill without, like, spilling your guts completely. So yeah, having an ensemble. I don't know, like, who's in her world.
To me.
Oh, you know what? Like.
Bring back to me.
Yeah. I kind of want to hear what she has to say now.
I have no idea.
At the time, I wasn't ready for it.
But I don't know. Their parents or something? Like.
Sure.
I hope they've been filming. I think. Of a couple successful. Like, the Zolciaks were a successful spinoff.
They were. They're an ensemble. They're an ensemble themselves. The family is 11 people.
Exactly.
It's not just Kim and Croy.
And it's like, Whitney has three kids, but they are toddlers. I don't want to watch her toddler.
No, and please don't make your toddlers.
Don't kids the star of the show.
Uncomfortable.
Like, it's uncomfortable.
It's cruel.
It's cruel. Another success, the Bella twins.
That's interesting.
Let's discuss.
They were on, remind me, because that's a little bit of a blind spot for me.
WWE Divas.
Divas, yes.
Yeah. What was it called?
And then they got Bella twins.
Uh-huh. And then they got the Bella what was that too?
I just can't, like, take anything on E seriously. I don't know why. To me, the network is such a flop. Even though that show and that series was not a flop, and it really made the Bella twins stars.
No, and it's like it was about, like, their parents and their stepdad.
Right. John Cena.
And their, like, boyfriends and husbands and everybody.
Daniel.
Everybody got involved in all of it.
Yeah.
And that was really good.
That's true.
They had, like, a good family that could spin off.
Yeah. The Kardashians have done many successful spinoffs.
Yes.
But they were more so, like, anthologies. Like, they were miniseries.
The miniseries. Yeah.
It's not a guaranteed flop, but it's hard. It is harder than I think people think. Although, I mean, personally, like, I hope they've been filming. I would love to know. I think for sure she had said no to Traidors because it's, like, Connor's time. And then Connor got off in the first week and she literally texted them, like, "No, I'll come now." Like, I would love to know how that worked. I think and they live in New York.
I think they live in Utah now.
Yeah.
And I just saw she filmed an ad in a gorgeous kitchen. That's not in New York.
But didn't they make a whole thing about her moving to New York, even after Chicago, and she was going to do another show?
No, and then they also did, like, a home spread with a magazine.
Yeah.
But it was in a they moved back to Utah.
Oh.
I'm pretty sure that was the thesis.
I think the success of all the women is predicated on them always being in Utah. Like, I don't know why. I think it's, like, a part of the recipe for success. So and I don't think that she's right for New York. Like, stints for your Broadway shows? Of course. But the interesting thing about these women is their connection to the church. Like, it is this sort of anomaly that people are obsessed with. And so I hope that the show films in Utah.
They live in Utah.
And I imagine other cast members, they all left on good terms with her besides Jen. So maybe we'll get cameos.
Like Macy and Michaela.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Macy and Michaela.
That's Slamu.
Macy and Michaela are also teasing their own show, Eminem. And they're, like, writing in the comments, like, about, you know, production and stuff. Like, if everyone's getting their own show.
Yeah.
Why don't you put it all together and make it the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?
No, but it's like if Whitney Leovitt is going to have her own show with Demi and Macy and Michaela, like, that's Slamu.
Yeah.
Because Taylor's leaving, Jen is MIA, that's Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
Yeah.
I don't know. It's just I find that it's a trap, but I also feel like Whitney Leovitt.
If anyone can do it.
When she puts her mind to something, she will succeed. So.
I agree.
I personally will be watching.
Me too.
What's the name of the show? They're Untitled.
Oh.
So I'm just calling it House of Leovitt.
Okay. Leading Levitt.
Yeah. Or they could do, like.
Levitt behind.
Installments. If Hulu, like, gives all these people spinoffs, like, it could just be, like, House of Blank. Like.
It's kind of a good idea.
Yeah.
The House of franchise.
The House of franchise.
But, like, Stassi would have to own it because she did come up with the name.
Yeah, sure.
Sure. Executive produced by Stassi Schroeder.
Love it.
Yeah.
Oh, Jessie Draper.
Yeah.
Is the other Slamu.
She's got a lot going on in her house.
She does. House of.
House of supporting characters. House of Brunette.
House of Brunette. Okay. Are you ready for our next story?
Mm-hmm.
Sophia Franklin bartended on Watch What Happens Live to promote her new memoir, Daddy Issues. Angie Kay and Michelle Collins were guests on the episode. And Sophia actually had some words with Angie Kay. I guess they had some beef.
Beef.
It's a little confusing.
Sophia Franklin's from Utah.
Yes.
So a lot of people don't put that together.
She does a lot of Utah content with Slamu and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
I think she had said that, like, her mom was approached to be on the show. I think maybe her mom, like, knows the women. To be honest, I don't really care about the Angie thing. I wanted to talk about this because I was so shocked to see her bartending. Seriously, who's getting fired? And it's not like, you know, they had unreal guests. They couldn't postpone. I actually really like Michelle Collins. She's been on the show 10,000 times. I think she's sort of, like, one of his, like, sub-ins. Like, when somebody cancels or they need someone in New York, someone who could come on short notice, Kelly Rippa. There he has people who will just John Mayer, who will just, like, John Hill, who will just hop in.
I believe she's one of them. She gives great takes, and she's a very good villain. This is not a slight she's been on the show 10,000 times. Like, literally 10,000 times.
Put Sophia in the chair.
Sophia's writing the tell-all of the season. When I saw her standing there, I wish she had declined it. And I know, like, she's just doing press right now. And so any press is good press. And honestly, she's making more news as a bartender than literally anybody ever has. But I was so shocked and disappointed. And I feel like that was a huge miss for Watch What Happens Live.
Yeah.
They had sat her down and just asked her. I heard I saw a girl on TikTok, her, like, local bookstore, like, had it early, and she read it. She says it's the craziest book. She said, "You guys aren't ready for the T." I skipped it because I didn't want I didn't know if she was going to spill it.
Yeah. No spoilers.
You could have literally had the interview of the century.
Yeah.
And you made her the bartender. Like, I'm mad.
Yeah.
I'm mad on her. I'm sure she was insulted too, but you just take, like, the opportunity. And I think she did an amazing job. They also asked her about Mosquito Island, which is the Real Housewives of New York.
She volunteered because the question was, like, which of the house husbands for Michelle Collins you still think could get it?
Yeah.
She was, like, Mauricio. And then Andy asked Sophia, "Have you ever party with Mauricio?" Which, like, she probably has. But she was, like.
No, but she had a relevant Bravo story.
She was, like, "No, but I have been to Mosquito Island."
Which is the island on Real Housewives of New York that's being, like, widely contested. Is it a private island? Is it a dump? And so this is a person who's literally been there.
Mm-hmm.
Giving like, she would have been an amazing guest.
Yeah. And then Andy said that she was almost cast for Summerhouse. And she was like, "Yeah, I made it to the final rounds, but I didn't get it."
I'm so glad she didn't, by the way. Like.
And he was like, "Oh, that seems like a miss from casting because, like, you would be great." And she was like she was like, "Yeah, but I think I'm meant to be more of an author."
Author?
I was cracking up.
She would have been an amazing guest. It was like we got so many moments, all the clips, because I went on Watch What Happens Lives TikTok today to, like, see the clips. They were all about Sophia. So it's like, your bartender is making more news than the people in your chairs. And yeah, and then Angie confronted her. I guess, like, Sophia on her podcast, like, a couple of years ago, started a rumor that one of her boyfriends that she was seeing hooked up with, like, who she didn't say Angie, but everybody assumed it was Angie. Like, she gave clues or whatever. And Angie was mad because at the time, Angie was married, and it's not true. And Sophia, like, literally didn't even apologize. She was like, "Oh, yeah, it wasn't you. And I'm glad we cleared that up."
Like, she didn't even though Angie was like, "That hurt my feelings. You hurt my marriage." Sophia was like, "You were sort of waiting for her to be like, 'And you're right.'" She was like, "Well, it wasn't. So I'm glad we took care of that."
She's so funny.
Like, I can't believe what a missed opportunity it was. And I'm very curious. The book comes out in, like, five days.
Mm-hmm.
What other PR she's doing. Like, I haven't seen I know she's been doing all these, like, sort of, like, literary excerpts and Vanity Fair articles, but, like, a sit-down. I don't think she'll do, like, Jay Shetty.
I think she could.
I think she could, but I don't I actually don't know if that would be right for her.
She could do.
You have to go on Howard Stern. Like, Howard Stern notoriously hates Alex Cooper. So, like, you know what I mean?
Oh, that's funny. But also, Alex Stern's audience, like, isn't Alex.
They don't care.
They're not paying attention to this.
Yeah.
She could go on Jake Shane.
I don't think Jake Shane people that are in this industry, like, still afraid of Alex Cooper. She actually is a very powerful woman in media. And I think if you have Sophia Franklin on your show, like, you're sort of aligning yourself with one side or the other. And I don't know if Jake Shane, like, wants to put himself in the middle of that. That's why, like, more traditional media, like, they don't give a fuck. Like.
Yeah.
She should have been on.
They have everyone on.
Watch What Happens Live was the perfect it should have just been that.
Yeah. But I think Jay Shetty Jay Shetty doesn't care. He doesn't he's not in, like, the swirly girly.
No, he's not.
No.
And there is, like, a deeply emotional, traumatic part of what she went through, aside from the gossip that we're all looking for, being universally canceled.
Yes, but also, like, her abortion that she talked about.
Abortion.
And also, like, her daddy issues. The show is the book is about, like, her life. It's not just about.
Alex.
The call her daddy stuff. So I think there's a lot more she could talk about. I wouldn't be surprised if she's, like, next week on Jay Shetty.
Jay Shetty.
A lot of people who write a book then, like, supplement with a Jay Shetty interview.
I'm trying to think, like, more.
Like, Hayden Panettiere.
Yes, yes, yes. I'm just trying to think, like, what other outside of podcasts. Like.
Amy Poehler.
That would be good.
That would be fun.
But again, like, as an Amy Poehler woman in podcasting, like, you are sort of.
Mm. No, I think Amy Poehler is above the drama. There are people who are above the drama.
Yes.
Like, I think Jake Shane, like, is in, like, the girly sphere.
He's in the mix.
So yeah, that would be planting your flag there.
She could go on Hot Mess.
Yes, she could, but it's not like an interview show. I mean, maybe she will.
Oh, Get Right All with me.
Do Get Right All with me.
That is an interview.
But it wouldn't be, like, you know, "Tell me about your child."
No, no. And it's a little too obvious. And everything she's doing so far is, like, very highbrow.
Mm-hmm.
So not that Get Right All is not highbrow. But I think she'll continue to do more, like, mainstream outlets.
Yeah.
I'm curious. And she's obviously hired, like, very good PR because.
She's in The New York Times. She's in Vanity Fair.
It's come across our desk multiple times.
Well, every day.
Yeah.
In every way.
I just couldn't believe they made her bartender. Like, I feel and I'm not saying this in a bad way. I feel like the bar for guests on Watch What Happens Live has actually not gotten lower, but they.
But it's expanded.
Yes. They include lots of different, like, podcasters, digital talent. And I think it's great because for a while, it's like, how many Bravo celebrities in the same four Bravo fans can you, like, swap in and out? So you started to have, like, you know, Danny Pellegrino. And I think it's great when they, like, incorporate.
Teams.
Yeah, when they incorporate digital talent. So, like, I was shocked. Like, who's.
Yeah. And usually these influencers first of all, I find influencers, like, more interesting.
Interesting.
Than a traditional celebrity.
I would watch an episode with Danny Pellegrino and Tinks 10 times faster than I would watch an episode with, like.
Jessica Alba.
Right. 100%.
She's my she's my go-to boring celebrity. Like.
She's so boring. That's why.
You know, and it's like, I don't need to hear an interview, but, like, go. I love your movies.
Yeah, right. I love the Honest Company. I really.
I love.
I love the wipes.
But it's like, that's just, like, my when I think about, like, just a boring celebrity.
The brick land. Yeah.
Influencers oftentimes have had a lot of encounters and experiences with, like, the Bravo world.
The relevant people.
And, like, remember Tinks was involved in, like, the Jessie Solomon show?
Jessie Solomon's weird.
Like, we need to know about.
Even Sophia, she had this, like, Angie Kay connection. Like.
And she auditioned for Summerhouse. She definitely has partied with the people.
There's literally no reason and I can't stress enough how, like, how much I actually really like Michelle Collins. Taylor Schrecker is really good friends with her. And she says she's, like, really cool. And this is not a slight against her. She's the perfect person.
I mean, she's, like, well-read on Bravo. Love.
Like, she literally could have been tomorrow.
Uh-huh. Mm-hmm.
I understand Angie. It's probably they probably aired Salt Lake City last night, so you have someone from the show. And Angie and Sophia, it would have been great. Like, two ops.
Yeah. Or Sophia tomorrow night. Like.
Like, literally whatever. Bring her back. Like, seriously, fix it. Do it again. All the comments were, like, bartender?
Yeah. And these days, bartenders, like, really just, like.
Sponsorship.
You know, the bakery down the shop that paid.
It's a sponsorship.
It's a sponsorship.
Like, the creative director of Bubbly Sparkling Wine. Like.
Exactly. Or, like, Bread's Bakery.
Yeah. It's a sponsorship. It's more often than not paid.
It's not, like, a personality.
No.
Yeah.
Because, like, I think the personalities realized it's the worst gig in the industry.
Yeah.
Like, you get three minutes of airtime. Andy you're a nuisance to Andy. Like, he's just I think he wishes he never started the bartender thing because it's just, like, sort of this, like, like, nap.
Yeah. And it's like he's already in a rush, and he's just guessing.
I always talk to the bartender.
Who paid to be here.
Yeah. Correct.
But you didn't pay when you were the bartender.
No, no. I was hired talent.
Mm-hmm.
But, like, years later, we had inquired about having Ben bartend to, like, for, like, spritz. And we were trying to, like, do it, like, in a funny way. And they were like, "Well, if it's for a brand, it's " so anytime you see, like, a product or, like, a.
It's paid.
It's paid. I think it was, like, $5,000. And I was like, "That's seriously a waste of money."
That's it.
Or maybe it was more.
It's definitely more.
I'm remembering it being 5 or 12. Those two numbers, like, are coming to me.
5, like, is a good deal to get your brand on Watch What Happens Live, and Andy has to engage with it.
Right.
And if it's a good brand, like, with the right audience, everyone would be like, "Oh, we love this."
Yeah. It's a risk because sometimes you're the bartender, and it's like it ends up being bad for your brand because, like, Andy hates you. Everyone hates you. And then sometimes you really can make a moment out of it, very rarely.
Yeah.
And Sophia did.
Yeah.
So it's a gamble.
Yeah.
It's a $5,000 gamble.
Are you ready for our next story?
Whenever.
It's on Bravo News 4.
Yes.
Summerhouse star Lindsay Mother Hubbard reveals her vulnerable new memoir called Activated. So Lindsay Hubbard is ready to share her story with readers no holds barred. The Summerhouse star will publish her debut memoir Activated in 2027 through Simon Schuster Imprint Gallery Books. People can exclusively reveal the cover. So we have Lindsay looking off to the side with Activated above her head.
I guess, like, the time is right. She's obviously, like, on the other side of her journey. She was this sort of, like, controversial some of polarizing reality stars. She went through, like, lows and highs and controversy. And then she came out on top. She got, like, sort of, like, a mini Ariana Madix treatment where she's, like, now well-respected with she's like a she's like a Bravo Hall of Famer now.
Mm-hmm.
So it's a good time to write a book. When I think of the things I want from Lindsay Hubbard, I hadn't thought of a book. I'm sure it'll be good.
I think she has a story to tell because she's 40 years old.
Yeah.
So she had lived life before.
Yeah.
She was on Bravo. She said, "I've sat down many times over the years to write this book, but life moves quickly in my world. Turning 40 felt like the right time to finally tell my whole story. The book promises never-before-told stories along with a thrilling look at her life before cameras started rolling." I mean, we know she has an interesting childhood.
Oh, do we?
Yes.
Really?
And, like, her relationship with her mom.
Oh, yeah.
And she, like, doesn't have one.
Right.
So I think there's probably a lot there. She said, "Although you've seen bits and pieces of my journey on TV, there's so much more that fans don't know about my life. From my childhood to college years and my insane PR days." She went to college, yeah. And then she was a publicist.
I remember that she came on as, like, this Hubhouse, like, high-powered publicist in the early days of Summerhouse.
Yeah. I'm giving you all the details of my very full life with vulnerability, laughter, comedy, and excitement. I mean, every year, let's say a handful of reality stars and influencers write their memoirs, you know, who are chosen by.
And Carl's was really well-received.
Yeah. Craig did it. A lot of.
Did he?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pillows and beer. Was it? No, that was a podcast.
That's the name of the podcast.
What's Wrong with My Sewing?
It's a great name for a book, but I don't think it is.
I forget what his was called. We had him on. It was, like, six years ago.
I remember.
LaLa Kent wrote hers. I think Sheena did. Stassi, of course, did.
Pillow Talk.
Pillow Talk. Cute.
And, of course, his children's book, Patchwork.
Oh, yes.
Who could forget?
A new addition to my library.
Yes.
So I think Lindsay's a good choice. Like, if they're looking at the Jessie Draper is writing hers.
Mm-hmm. Laila Mayhow.
Macy, you know.
Yeah.
So if they're looking at people who are ready to write, I actually think she's a better choice than most because she is 40. She is now a mother.
How's life?
She's on the other side of, you know, probably the crazy times in her life. And it probably has a lot of lessons to share. So I think this is a good choice.
I agree. And it's a good title, too.
Oh, title?
Activated.
Yeah.
Like, literally, what else could it have been?
What else could it be? There's actually a lot it could be, but that's good. I'm I approve. Memoirs of a Hubbard.
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Our fifth and final story, Kim Kardashian and Jennifer Lawrence hit the streets in matching PJs on a Girls' Night Out. So Kim and JLa are kicking off the holiday season with a Girls' Night Out. They were spotted entering the Four Seasons Hotel and leaving in matching Skims PJs from the brand's new holiday campaign.
Oh, I didn't see them leaving in the.
Yeah. Matching robes, matching jamas.
But I also see both are getting something out of this because Jennifer Lawrence clearly, who's never been spotted, like, ever.
She's twice a day now.
Historically, you know, very private, being spotted with Kim, like, thanks because we're here to support S Degree. And on the way out, we're supporting Skims Degree.
Yeah.
Like, women in business, I'm reading right through this.
Oh, of course. I mean, we know that they are friends.
Did they say where they went? Did they go to Amman?
They said Four Seasons.
Oh, okay. Okay.
We know they're friends. JLa loves Chris.
Of course. We just saw her beef with Courtney on the show. I don't doubt that this is a real friendship. I think just, like, the timing is obviously very strategic.
Yeah. Like, hey, let's make a moment, you know.
And maybe they would have had dinner anyway, but, like.
Privately.
Yeah. Jennifer Lawrence doesn't do that. Like, curb that curb walk.
Yeah. No, we're literally seeing her twice a day in the morning, offer her morning walk.
Pajamas?
Kim Kardashian.
We're seeing her morning pajamas and her evening pajamas.
Yeah. Yeah. She's doing the most, which you have to do.
I would love to know how S Degree is doing, like, sales-wise. I saw, like, a couple of people reviewing it.
I saw one review.
I didn't see PR or anything.
I saw someone got sent it.
You did?
And so she was using it, and she didn't like it.
Oh.
But she.
Oh, she didn't like it.
But she wasn't, like, trying to be rude or anything. It was, like.
Like an honest review.
She was just like, yeah.
Yeah.
But what I liked, one product that she has is, like, this leave-in thing that you put in before you shower, and then you wash it in the shower, which I love that. I hate a leave-in mask that I have to do in the shower. What, I just wait there for 10 minutes?
I think a lot of them.
Are before the shower.
You can wash it out in the shower.
I've never had a mask like that. You put on dry hair.
Yeah.
And then you go in the shower.
Yeah. Some of them are, like, for a bather. Like, a lot of them, you put them in your wet hair so you lay in the bath with a mask.
I'm in the shower, I'm, like, standing there.
No, I agree. It's a bath thing. It's not a it's not a shower thing.
So I like the idea of a dry mask that washes off in the shower. That works for my, like, you know, my workflow.
Yeah. Agreed. I get the sense that you're, like, really baiting for PR, and it's not working. So you just have to buy it. And you have to try it and perhaps do, like, a whole tutorial.
Oh, no, I wasn't baiting for PR.
So what's stopping you from getting the product? Where do they sell it? Just online?
Yeah. I just.
Someone can do that.
Like, I have a lot of stuff.
Of course. Overconsumption culture is so real. I mean.
And I didn't see anyone say, like, oh, my God, you need this mess degree. So I'm just sort of, like, waiting.
I have not seen anyone saying you need this S Degree.
I'm waiting and seeing.
And listening and learning.
But I'm trying to stay open and supportive.
Yes, you are. That's very sweet of you.
You know?
Yeah.
Like, she never did anything wrong to me.
No, of course not. And I just want to say, I am now, like, looking at her hair.
Yes. And she's covered it with a hood.
Yeah.
But maybe that's the mess, you know, in mess degree.
And the thing is, is, like, regardless of whether or not I think this was, like, a good choice for Sarah Jessica Lawrence. What's her name?
Jennifer.
Sarah what? Jennifer Lawrence. Thank you. Oh, my God. If anyone, like, even my faves had released this, I am not the target demo for a hair care brand that endorses mess. Like, my hair, like, I always want I'm looking for I call your brand Polish Degree. Like, I want a silky smooth polished look, a perfectly straight part, no flyaways. Like, this is just not my hair philosophy.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
I had the craziest dream. I know, like, nobody cares, but we were with Taylor Swift. No, no, Jackie Free.
Unless.
I feel like it means something.
Unless.
We were with Taylor Swift. And she was, like, kind of giving us, like, an interview, but she was also just, like, talking to us. And she shared that she has a five-year-old daughter named Mae, M-A-E. And as she's, like, telling us, we're screaming. Like, we're like, like, we can't believe it. Like, some construction is starting, like, in the room that we're in. So, like, there are all these construction workers. Like, we have this, like, huge high-profile piece of information. Like, so me, you, and Taylor are, like, running around this house. I think it's, like, the house we grew up in, actually. We're running around this house looking for a private place. And every time we go into a room, there's, like, a construction worker laying in your bed or, like, we can't and so we never get to, like, tie like, beyond we never get to hear more.
It's kind of a crazy dream.
I believe it.
Mae. Mae. Because at first, when she said that Mae, her daughter, I'm like, oh, my God, her and Travis had a baby. Then she was like, and she's five. So I'm like, oh, it's Joe Allen's baby.
It's, like, the baby that we always thought.
We thought. Everybody did think that during her, like, before reputation, when she took that year off, Kim.
No, we didn't think that.
We didn't see that.
It felt like everybody thought she had a baby, but it's like, well, you could have had a baby.
And it would have been actually a good time.
Yeah.
She was not spotted for a whole year. Nobody even knows, like, geographically where she was.
Yeah.
It would have been a perfect time to have a child.
So and I think the name, like, is totally.
Mae.
She would have Mae Swift.
M-A-E.
100%.
Mae Kelsey.
Nobody would have been Travis's.
Oh, right.
But maybe he would adopt.
Mae Alwyn.
He would adopt. I think it would be Mae Swift. I think she did it herself.
As she motherfucking should.
And I think Travis will adopt Mae.
I think so too.
And he will be the father that stepped up.
Seriously cracking up.
But honestly, I think, like, that was more of a prophecy and less of a dream.
That's why I shared it. Nobody wants to share their dreams. Do I ever come on here? And every time I do, I'm, like, embarrassed to share. No, I'm telling you, I'm onto something.
But you also feel, like, subconsciously, like, we can't get him in it alone. Is that how you feel?
No.
Everywhere we go.
No, no. You know what it is?
Something in there.
It's, like, literally, like, we're 50 feet from start. I'm like, we got this, you know, huge piece of information, but because of, you know, other circumstances, we can't actually finish it. You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, it's how we'll be nominated for a Golden Globe, but we won't win.
But we'll be nominated?
They didn't tell me that in the prophecy, but I'm just, like, extrapolating.
But do you think we'll be nominated?
I'm having a hard time because, like, obviously, I thought no. But the more I'm, like, left to think they gave me a month to think about it. Like, and here are a few reasons why. Statistically, it's not impossible.
Well, out of 30.
Out of 30. And I happen to know just, like, through people I've spoken to, like, there are four or five shows who will not be submitting. And if you could be on the list of 30, but that doesn't mean all 30 are eligible. You have to pay to submit. You have to put together this.
A lot of work.
We had to put together this whole presentation. We did it, and we did it. We did it early. So I would say maybe 25. Those are not but how many nominees? Six? Six out of 25 is, like, a 30% chance.
Mm-hmm.
It's not that crazy. Also, and I don't know I actually wish she didn't say this, but we had, like, a call with our whole team, and our agent was like, well, you guys are obviously being nominated. And this is we actually not to brag. We have an amazing agent who does, like, really high profile. We're, like, one of his lower tier well, actually, Golden Globes. Like, he's not just, like, saying this. And he was like, you guys are he really believed that we were going to be nominated. And I was like, are you just saying that? He was like, no, no. Like, it's almost, like, guaranteed. I was like, wait, what? So I wish he didn't say that because now I'm like, well, we're obviously getting nominated. He said so.
So you're saying there's a chance.
He said it, not me. He's saying there's a chance.
By the way, I would say to the LA toasters, just keep your eyes open.
Yeah. Keep your eyes up, LA toasters.
You got a.
We got a little present for you.
Acknowledge your surroundings.
Yeah.
Be aware of your surroundings.
Right. Don't text and drive. I'll say that.
No, never. But just be aware of your surroundings, LA toasters.
And LA voters. It's not for the toasters. It's for the voters.
No, but the toasters get to experience.
Of course.
What's going on.
What we have in store. What was the story? Oh, mess degree.
Mess degree. Mess degree.
And that's how S sees it.
Mess degree. Mess degree. My hair's a mess degree.
Is this a song or are you just making it up?
I'm just making it up.
Oh, I didn't know if the tune was, like, supposed to be for that.
No, I'm just making it up. I just, like.
I love that. That's so turdy of you.
The brand just makes me want to sing.
She's obsessed. And you tell me she's not baiting for PR.
The brand just makes me want to sing and dance. Mess degree. Mess degree. Mess degree. Mess degree.
Let's dive into Dear Toasters our weekly advice segment, where I guess every Thursday, Jackie and I are, you know, giving back to our community. You guys write into us all the time. Like, Turdy, what do you think about this? Jax, what should I do? And we've decided to turn it into a segment, Dear Toasters. So you can email us, deartoasters@gmail.com, or head on over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Scroll down. There's a little submission box. You can see, you know, share to your heart's desire. Hey, Squirrels, I need your advice. Tell me if I'm being prude or if I should just shut up. My sister-in-law is pregnant, which is amazing. I love babies. I think they're the biggest blessing, and I recently just had my first.
The way she does, she does OnlyFans as her main source of income. We thought she'd quit after finding out that she was pregnant, but we found out she's still been posting content while heavily pregnant with no signs of stopping. It feels exploitive and yucky to me. And being a new mom, I can't even fathom what she's doing. I brought it up to my husband multiple times now. It bothers me, and he never wants to talk about it, which I get. That's his sister, but I have to talk about it. Luckily, we don't see her super often, but she's really open about it, and I'm worried about my baby growing up around this. I know it's my responsibility as his parent to make sure he knows what's wrong and normal, but I guess I'm feeling angry that I even have to worry about this.
Do I suffer in silence, or do I really need to broach the subject with my husband? I'm not even sure the outcome I'm expecting or wanting, but I feel like something has to be said or a line needs to be drawn, preferably not by me. Love you girls so much. Thanks for your help.
Yeah. Your husband doesn't want to talk about his sister's OnlyFans account.
Of course. I just want to say, like, in this particular moment, it doesn't really affect you. Now, down the line of, like, having to you just had a baby, so you shared that. Down the line of, like, having to explain, like, having a family member who does, like, sex work, like, yeah, that's an issue. I 100% agree that that's something that would affect you. At this present moment, it's, like, not your problem.
Yeah.
And as someone who just had a baby, like, you have a lot going on. Like, I would focus on that.
And you see.
Of course, it's crazy.
You don't, like, see her a lot. It's not like she's in your everyday life, in your child's everyday life. So if people, like, over there want to make their choices, this could you could take out the OnlyFans and make this about, like, anything that people do in their personal lives that you might not agree with or values that they hold that you might not agree with and don't want your kids around. And I think, you know, that boundary of, like, being around family but keeping a safe distance based on whatever they're doing that you don't agree with is something that can easily be drawn. I don't even know if you have to, like, talk to your husband about it.
Right.
And I'm sure the fact that he doesn't want to talk about it means that it's weird with him too.
It's his sister.
Yeah.
When you said sister-in-law, I wasn't sure if that was, like, your brother's wife or your husband's of course, your husband doesn't want to talk about it.
Yeah.
And, like, you making it your issue right now, not the time. Save it for a few years down the line, and she might be done with it. Actually, I was just watching Trisha Paytas on Jay Shetty, and she was talking about her time on OnlyFans. And I have to say, I've never heard somebody be so honest. It was actually quite refreshing. She says she looks back on that time, and she's disgusted. Like, we have, as a culture, like, we've really embraced sex work, and it's like we're not judgmental about it, and it's a legitimate form of revenue. And sure, but I think a lot of us, like, would never do it and think differently. And so she it was very refreshing for her to be like, I like, I can't sleep at night when I think about it.
Like, I want to vomit. She explained her reasonings for doing it. Like, at first, for a lot of people, it's financial.
Mm-hmm.
Then you make so much money doing it that, like, it's really not even about the money anymore. She was like, I just had such low self-esteem, and I just felt like this is what the type of work I deserve to be doing. It was really honest. And it was also very refreshing. Like, yeah, I think we went through an era where it was, like, you know, deemed inappropriate to, like, say anything negative about sex work. But to hear somebody who had done it and, like, deeply regretted it, she was like, if I could send one message to anybody who's even thinking about it, like, for whatever reasons, financial or emotional, like, do not do it.
It was like a warning. Some people have to come to that decision on their own.
Yeah. But there also are, like, different tiers of what people are doing on there.
On OnlyFans.
Yeah.
Yeah. This girl could be doing just, like, kinky pregnant, like, shit.
Like, yeah, like lingerie and just, like, you know.
Right. But then there are people who.
The female body.
Full production.
Not.
Productions of pornography, like, to completion.
I would say those two things are different.
I agree.
So.
A lot of people do, like, foot stuff.
Yeah. Or just, like, celebrating the female form.
Yeah. Or, like, sexy pics.
Sexy pics.
Like, wow. That might even be, like, appropriate, like, for a reason.
On Instagram, but then if you realize you can get paid for it.
Yeah.
And you were doing it for free.
Mm-hmm.
Then sure.
Yeah.
So I don't know. This is just, like, you got to use your judgment and, you know, protect your sphere. But it doesn't sound like it really is encroaching on you at all.
Yeah, right now.
Mm-hmm.
So just, like, lay it to the side and pray that it works itself out. Her kids are going to grow up too, and she might just come to the conclusion on her own.
Mm-hmm.
Or not. And then you'll have to have a conversation. And yes, like, your husband will have to get involved.
Mm-hmm.
Next, ready? Hi, Twirlies. I never thought I'd be writing into Dear Toasters, but alas, here I am. That's the thing. Dear Toasters comes for everyone. My boyfriend and I have been together for five years. We have a pretty stable relationship. Last week, he was taking apart our washing machine to fix a weird noise it had been making. Oh, a handyman. Well, I don't know what he did, but it was so hard to come by. Once he fixed the issue, he struggled to reassemble a particular part. He asked me to grab my phone to read him instructions from a Reddit thread. We've always been comfortable using sharing each other's phones, so I really thought nothing of it. I opened Reddit. I tapped the search bar to find the thread and was absolutely horrified to see multiple searches in his search history for Bradley on a budget's OnlyFans content.
I genuinely froze.
He's obviously a toaster.
Of all the things I could have discovered well, was it you? Well, of all the things I could have discovered while helping my boyfriend fix our washing machine, this was the absolute last thing I expected. I haven't confronted him about it because I generally don't know how to approach a conversation. I also haven't told anyone in my personal life out of fear that it'll permanently damage their perception of him. Am I overreacting? Is there any way to rationalize this? Is this something I should address, or should I pretend I never saw it? I love this man, but I genuinely don't know how to look at him in the same way.
Like, why is he going to Reddit for Bradley on a budget's?
I think because and I'm actually guessing here. I think people try to find OnlyFans content without having to pay for it because, like, when you pay for it, you credit card, you should maybe share it with your girlfriend.
Uh-huh.
Maybe people post it. I'm just guessing here, like, screenshots of what goes down. He might have just been curious about what goes down on Bradley on a budget's OnlyFans.
Maybe he's become, like, a big Bradley fan.
A budget baddie called.
Like, I could see you going on Reddit, like, to see what people are saying about Bradley on a budget's OnlyFans. And it's not because, like, you're a consumer of it.
It's because I'm just curious. The thing is, is that you have to ask because it's possible that your man's gay. It's obviously a possibility. And that would just save you a lot of time and heartbreak. And if in, you know, five years, you walked in and I'm having sex with a man, you would think to yourself, well, I did see that Bradley on a budget thing. I wish I just asked a question.
Yeah.
You got to ask.
Yeah.
And he's entitled to, you know, his privacy when it comes to his sexuality, but you don't want to be wasting your time. You know, you're a woman of a certain age. So you just have to ask.
I agree. And it's a boyfriend.
It's a boyfriend. And he also, like, he genuinely could have just been curious.
Yeah.
But.
No, it's like he could have fallen down the Bradley rabbit hole that, as you have, of, like, Bradley's content.
And by the way, I'm a huge Bradley rabbit hole. I've never even thought to go look at his OnlyFans content.
Or, like, what people are saying about it. Like, he might have just gone down an internet rabbit hole.
Right, right, right.
And ended in a gay place.
Yeah, maybe.
You know?
And sometimes, like, you do end up in a gay place. And.
Yeah.
That doesn't make you gay.
Where it's like you might find yourself searching something where it's like, oh, my God, if anybody saw me searching this, they'd get the wrong idea.
Yeah. And most normal people delete their history.
But so he's not hiding.
Right. That's true, by the way.
Just saying. It could be, like, you know, it could have been a deep internet rabbit hole is all.
It happens to the best of us.
Or he wants to see Bradley getting down.
I know you do.
I know you do.
I know Zach wrote this in about you. You were fixing the washing machine.
I was fixing the washing machine. We are having a washing machine issue.
What? What did I say? Hey, Jackson Claude. I'm truly horrified. My in-laws were visiting from out of town today, and as they went to leave the house, I realized that they left a phone. I picked it up to run it down to them, and when I looked at it, I saw Google searches with a bunch of naked women's pictures on it. I need to emphasize that I was not snooping. I literally noticed it just as, like, I locked the phone. It's my father-in-law's phone. Just before they left, he was feeding my nine-month-old. Here are my questions. Do I tell my husband? He looks up to his dad so much, and I think this would crush him. Am I justified in making a rule that my sons are not allowed to play with or look at my in-laws' phones again? My two-year-old loves to watch music videos with his grandpa, but now I'm.
What?
Now I'm feeling like I have to be a psycho about phones. I feel like I have no one to talk to about this.
Okay. Two-year-old watching music videos with his grandpa is the weirdest sentence I ever heard.
And, like, put it on the TV. Like.
No. And also, like, grandpa came over to play. We're not watching music videos.
I do agree.
If someone came over to put on music videos with my two-year-old, I would say, get out.
Agree. That's not meaningful play.
That's not meaningful play.
Absolutely not.
And music videos these days are disgusting.
Now, I don't know if your concern is that he was looking at the naked photos while playing with the kids. Like, maybe they're playing on.
Of course. The screen was open. But also, Google doesn't have naked photos on image search.
That's true. But grandpa probably doesn't know that.
But so what did she see? Just, like, bikini girls?
I'm not sure.
Yeah. This has to be discussed.
You also the thing is, in this day and age, you just have to be careful who you leave your kids alone with.
It's so true.
Family or not. I'm sorry.
Did you see that thing about the Disney roundup?
Disney? Yes.
You literally can't even.
The Disney roundup.
You can't even trust Mickey Mouse.
It's true. So yeah, you just have like, you've been given some sort of, like.
And but you need to tell your husband so that he knows that you're being restricted for a reason.
Because I.
Not just because you don't want to hang out with his parents.
You probably also don't want to hang out with his parents, so this is sort of like a win-win.
No, but sometimes when the grandparents come over, it's great. It's like, oh, we get to kick our feet up.
Oh, we're just kicking up.
Like, grandpa's here.
Yeah.
He's putting on music videos. Lazy.
Lazy parents.
No thanks. I could do that.
Yeah, right. Also, where was grandma?
Where was grandma?
Deadbeat grandma.
Where was grandma?
No, you're underreacting to this.
It's disgusting.
It's disgusting. And, like, letting your two-year-old play with your phone letting a two-year-old play with your phone.
No.
When you have, like, random proclivities for, like, Google nude searches, like, you're sick.
How about this, even without your random proclivities?
Yeah, of course.
You don't give a two-year-old a phone if you can't play with them.
But people have.
If you can't play.
People have different philosophies on phones.
I agree. But you asked for mine. You wrote into Dear Toasters.
Right. Yes. I don't think, like, you coming over to play with the kids and just, like, shoving a phone in their face is helpful.
I can do that.
I could do that. And get the dishes done. Like, thanks, but no thanks. And when grandparents come over, it should be, like, meaningful time.
Meaningful play.
Meaningful play. So yeah, that's just, like, bad play.
Yeah. And so if you're not.
Of course, nudity.
Prepared to bring meaningful play.
Get the hell out of my house. Isolation cabin, okay?
I said good day, sir.
I said good day, sir. Sorry you're going through that. But, like, you know, sometimes you need a little bit of, like, a like, the Lord gives you, like, little warnings sometimes. Like.
Yes. Yes.
And I know this is a small a very small example, but I have this beautiful bracelet that Ben got me for my birthday. Oh, no, Mother's Day. It's rubies and diamonds. It's, like, my favorite thing I've ever, ever had. I was making the bed, like, a couple of weeks ago, and I saw that the little oh.
Ghost.
The little thing was unlatched. I'm like, oh, that's weird. It must be loose. I have to remind myself to get it fixed. Of course, I didn't. We're getting out of the car. We're going to Yard House, of course. I need my chicken lettuce wraps. And it's raining, so I'm like, ugh. I'm like, getting out of the car, and I run. And as I'm running, I just sense I didn't even see it. I sense something on the floor. Now it's raining. Why do I want to stop and turn around? But I did. My bracelet was on the floor. The Lord had given me a warning when I was making the bed, and I ignored it, and I almost lost my bracelet.
Now, thankfully, he gave me a second warning. I got the bracelet fixed, even though I just saw it took a little loose again. I might have to get it fixed again. The Lord has given you a warning. Do with that information what you will.
Mm-hmm.
Or, you know, whatever, you know, statue you pray to, the universe, whatever. It's not religion. I'm not trying to proselytize, of course, but you've been given a warning.
Proselytize? Goji.
No, we don't do that.
We don't.
No, Jews. That's, like, really notorious. We don't you don't like, if you want to join Judaism, you have to ask three times.
Oh, but no, I'm not saying, like, you need to join Judaism.
So what are you proselytizing?
Oh, find God.
Some of you bitches do need to find God. That's absolutely clear in the submissions that I read. But again.
I'm kidding.
I am not your preacher.
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Keep doing you because it keeps Dear Toasters interesting.
Yes, it does.
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