Transcript of Jared Freid Is Here For Every Millennial | Hour 1

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This guy is very funny. He's also very busy. He's got a Netflix special, his second. It premieres today, The Family Plan. He also wrote a book, his debut book, Walking Red Flag: Dating Advice from Your Favorite Guy Friend, back in June. Hosts the J Train podcast Co-host the podcast You Up. He's a stand-up comedian, a podcaster, and an author. Jared Fried with us. Thank you and congratulations on your second special. You're, you're young enough in the game that you are still super excited about these things. They take a long time to make. How has the experience doing this one been for you?

It is great to be here. Huge fan. Thank you. I'm coming to you from my studio, uh, hotel room here in Manhattan, sitting here next to the window watching the antics here. I can't believe you guys have a makeup woman. I was just watching during the break. This show having a makeup woman is like the surprise of the century to me. I can't, I can't. You guys are dressed for a pickup game at a JCC and you're like getting blush put on. That's crazy.

I don't know what's worse.

I just think that's insane. People at home don't know, Zaslav's dressed literally to go get coffee after waking up 10 minutes ago, and you guys have someone putting on— I love it. I, I'm proud of the special. Thank you. I'm a huge fan, Le Batard, of, you know, of what you do. And, um, yeah, you just said all, all the stuff I do. I never shut up. And I, um, I have a special that is a 1-hour story about going to the beach with my parents in Delray Beach, Florida in 2018. My dad asked me how much I weighed while we sat across from each other at the beach, and that's the whole special. That's it. And it's all about my family and my parents and the millennial-boomer relationship and how I'm 41 and still on my parents' cell phone plan. If you relate to any of these things— body issues and lack of money while your parents have all of it— you're gonna love the special. It's for everybody. It's for you, your cousin that you go smoke weed with during Thanksgiving, and your parents alike, because my parents came to every, every time I did it in Dania Beach and they brought friends.

So that was really the greatest pleasure, to make fun of them to their face and have them love it.

Did they know they were gonna be a focal point of it?

They knew when I brought them to the— I do the Comedy Cellar in New York. That's like home to me. And I brought my parents and the staff is all friends with me, like all the managers. And they were— and I had been doing this material about my parents and they were like, have they seen it yet? I was like, they lived it. What are you talking about? And I sat them down in the jump seats and I go on stage I start doing these jokes about my mom. She stands up in the middle of the show, goes, no, no, we didn't do that. And, and so now I'm having a fight with my mom. I had to look at the audience and be like, hey, that's my mom. I'm— that's the person I'm talking about right now. So the thing is, they're all true stories, so I don't really feel that weird telling them.

These—

this is all stuff that we would laugh about, you know, fight about, and then eat Chinese food together afterwards.

Does she not understand that she's not supposed to stand up during a professional comedian's act and go, no, no?

She doesn't care. She's never cared. This is my mom. She is the— you know, I say it in the special, like, every time I got sent a Karen video, I thought the next one would be her. Like, I just thought every— you know, like, none of those Karen videos even surprised me. I'm like, yeah, that's a mom going to war for their family. you know, in, in most of those. And it's like, you know, my mom just is like the show, you know. She has always been a character and the fun of my family. And so like growing up, people would be like, you're Kim's son? Like they'd be surprised.

Comedian though, they couldn't have been initially supportive of that as a career choice.

They didn't get it. My dad was like, oh, you're going to be a businessman. This is an entrepreneurial Pursuit. That was his understanding of it. Like, he's like, oh, you'll be one of the guys on 30 Rock sitting around the table dressed like Dan Le Batard and his friends, looking like a slob. So like, that was my dad's thing. My mom, like, she was just like— I think moms are rated based on what their kids do, and they just want an easy answer. Like, kid's a doctor, you've done a good job. You know, like, that's kind of what they want. So I think for a couple years she didn't get it, But my parents were weirdly like, okay, as long as they felt like you were busy.

Your book is about dating. Is this Netflix special that debuts today, does it have a lot of dating in it or is just your parents as the focus and you being a fat guy?

It's me being a fat guy and me having body issues. And it's the special's a 1-hour story. It's all one theme. And there's some stuff about dating, but like, that's really not the focus. focal point. It's really about the millennial-boomer relationship and being, you know, in this weird thing where our relationship with our parents is so different than our parents' relationship with their parents. Like, we fly somewhere and text our family, landed. Like, that's crazy that we're still connected to our parents in this weird way that we thought would be different now.

I have a bunch of dating questions for you. I assume that women always have it worse than men in the dating scene, and that would continue today, correct?

Yes.

What is the worst dating advice out there that you would regard as conventional wisdom?

The worst dating advice out there is, if he wanted to, he would. Because I think it does a disservice to women owning their own feelings and speaking to them. Because if he wanted to, he would is— why are you putting your feelings in their hands? I don't understand that. I don't think guys act like that. And I think a lot of women are misled to hide their feelings and not speak up. And, you know, if I, if I were to change that, I'd be like, if you ain't wet, he don't get, you know, like I would switch that.

Do you think— what do you think is the most common dating mistake that people make?

In these times, hiding. Men make dating profiles to rush a fraternity. Women make dating profiles to not be too much. And I think they would be served well by taking advice from each other. Men need to make a dating profile that is— that could check a lot of boxes and has safety to it and has friends and has normalcy. Women need dating profiles that stand out and are a little bit more them and have a little bit more personality and don't hide.

What's at the top of the list for the men listening in the audience? And it's mostly men on turnoffs, turnoffs that they are regularly doing.

Is— well, the problem with men is not understanding the female side and thinking that their problems are just as big as women in the dating world. My audience, the people that I speak to, are mostly women, and the problem they have with men dating is that it's not a priority for them. It's all fun and games, and they're not seeing that, you know, for a lot of women out there, this is serious, and this is, this is something they're doing well in their whole lives. They're having they're doing great in their career, they have good friends that they go out with every week, and this is the one thing they're kinda having trouble with, and it's because the men generally don't care. I think if men understood that, you know, women generally care about these things and it isn't all fun and games to them, that they would take it a little more seriously and maybe be a better dating partner.

How about specific turn-offs though? Things that guys do that women would tell you, don't do that, that's, that's—

Generally women hate And now you guys are in Florida, I'm in Delray Beach. Women do not like sandals with jeans. They— that is one thing that I went around the country for the first special on Netflix. I had this thing where I was like asking women their icks, and they were somewhat regional. Sandals with jeans in Florida and in Phoenix was like a huge, like, don't do that, you know, that is just not a no-go. But I do also think for a lot of women, like, one woman's ick is another woman's husband. So that's kind of the fun of an ick, is like there's one woman being like, I don't like sandals with jeans, and the woman next to her is rubbing the guy's leg with wearing sandals and jeans, being like, well, it looks good on you, Robert. So like, that's, you know, I, I think that's the, the turn-offs. Otherwise, you know, you have like, you know, chasing a ping pong ball and wearing a backpack and running, but you can't— You can't really out— you can't really zig when you, you know, you can't out, you know, juke out an ick. My best advice is to own your icks, and to be worried about the icks is an ick in itself.

All right, so give me, on a scale of 1 to 10, how big of a red flag is, for example, ghosting?

It's a bad thing, but like ghosting to, you know, the, uh, something in the book that I go over is the definition of ghosting. You know, I think if you're— I think you're always better off— hey, I mean, but I'm, you know, this is advice that's easier to give than it is to take. That's the whole point of the book, is like I'm telling personal stories to tell you what's going on on the male side. I think for men, if they're gonna like get into my book, it's like you're gonna be seen and heard. A lot of your insecurities about career and how, how you're valued based on how you're doing at work is going to be kind of shown in that and kind of give a side to that. But it's definitely the, you know, the premise of like what, you know, what to do to not be a turnoff. Like, you know, you're gonna be, you know, it's all kind of, it's hard to put words to.

Well, give me a number then if you can't find the words, a scale of 1 to 10, red flag ghosting.

I would say that's a 9 out of 10 if you're just gonna disappear on someone.

Double texting?

0 out of 10.

Social media stalking before the first date?

The word stalking that you're giving to it is the wrong word because that kind of gives it like— we all do a level of looking someone up before we go. Again, this is like the male side needs to see it through a woman's eyes. Women, you know, here's the thing men never think about with dating is murder. So I think a lot of women always have murder on their mind, especially with meeting someone off of a dating app. And we all go, well, I'm not that guy, I'm a good guy, I'm not the guy from the Netflix documentary. But that's why men have more fun dating. They'll go meet any woman in any alley and hope for some fun to happen. Women have to think about murder. So a level of looking someone up before a date is a good thing to do, and I don't think it's a problem. But there's such a thing as too much. I think You know, a lot of women will go and put a guy's name into a closed-off Facebook group called Are We Dating the Same Guy? And those Facebook groups serve a really good thing with— they're trying to avoid murder.

But what ends up happening is they put the name in and then 30 women write about how they went out with Jason Zaslav and it was like, oh my God, the worst day of the date of their life. and he wore mesh shorts and he came dressed like he came from a JCC basketball game. And you're like, okay, we've done too much stalking at that point. So there's like a—

Did you just snort, Jason?

Okay, see, this is because Jared and I have become friendly. This is now— unless he did it on purpose, which I don't think he did— this is the second time he's called me Jason.

I'm sorry.

That's not your friend, pal.

That is the second time that Jared called me Jason.

We wish each other happy birthday twice a year. We know each other.

That's not your buddy friend. He was very apologetic though.

first time. Now I'm not sure I believe it was.

I'm sorry.

What is a red flag that gets a 10, Jared?

Uh, whoo. Um, I guess a 10 red flag for anyone, male, female, is unawareness. You know, being unaware and not having any care for the other person on the other side. And, you know, I— and I would also say telling someone how horrible dating is. Like, I think complaining about dating to someone else that you're trying to date, it's like, yeah, we're both losers. We're both here. We're both trying to find someone. Like, yeah, this does suck, but like, where does that get us?

Jared, I want to see that picture again of the release of his special there. You seem a good deal heavier there.

Oh, okay.

And one of the things that they say in comedy—

Did my dad call you? What's going on?

No, you just look heavier there than you do now.

And I got great angles when I go on camera in my— on—

Never— a man should never be clean-shaven. I think we all agree. Sorry, Zazz. Jason.

Jason. The funny though, the thing about— you hear this all the time in comedy— if a big guy loses the weight, there's some of the—

No, this is a good idea. This is smart. Yeah, mention that to the guy that's mentioned he's had body issues 12 times in this interview.

Hey, you look really fat now.

You look really fat now.

But look at him now though.

My point is that now— The angles from a Zoom camera, Dave.

But here's his photo.

Listen, nobody likes having their body— this happens all the time. I'll have one guy go, he's not that fat. And then someone else will be like, but he's jolly though. You never want your body to become the debate of a town hall meeting because then you hear what everyone thinks. They're like, the angles are good. No, I've lost some weight. My dad offered me his Ozempic at dinner like a couple months ago. And so, but I'm angle hot. Like, it really depends on where you're looking at me from. Like, you know, Right now, you know, the spot that I'm at, like, I put the— I put the camera right where I need it.

Wow.

Angle.

Like, I—

I can also—

weight loss.

I can tell you right now, Le Batard has a good seat for camera. He knows where he's gonna say— he puts Zaslav in that side seat, then he gets the side angle.

Yeah, Scott gets it.

Dan's way fatter.

He's on to me. Yeah, the, uh, I've had a fat face all my life. I feel like I'm an expert in this area.

Dan, we look like cousins. We're, we're doing a good job. We are. You know, the thing is, the special is really all about that. Like, it's all familial stuff, you know? Like, my dad had body issues, I have body issues, my kids will have it. And all we do is go out and eat and talk about our bodies.

It's just—

that's how it goes.

The Family Plan premieres today. It's his second Netflix special. Also the book Walking Red Flag: Dating Advice from Your Favorite Guy Friend. And he hosts the J Train podcast and co-hosts the podcast You Up. Thank you. Appreciate it, Jared.

Dude, you're the best. Thank you guys for having me. I really appreciate it. Big fan. Thank you guys so much.

Dan Levitar.

What is the worst part of the life?

Jonathan Sassolo.

The worst part of the life of what?

This is the Dan Levitar Show.

A little bit later in the show, we are going to have Michael Irvin as we do a bit of It's going to be a Caine's Insight sort of day here on the YouTube channel. So that is what is coming down the path here with Michael Irvin in a little bit. I wanted to ask you guys something I didn't talk about yet. You guys saw that Troy Aikman, they have put Monday Night Football limits on how he can do that job. I believe that's a job that pays him $1 million an episode. I believe he gets paid $17 million. I'm assuming there are 17 Monday Night Football games. And so it's a pretty great job, right? There's not a lot you have to do other than be available 17 Mondays a year, which is not something the Mannings can do. They can't be available 17 Mondays a year. So they're going to be available 12 Mondays a year. The idea that he's going to now be able to do that job less well because he's helping a team that has no chance this year try to fix itself. Do you think his employer should have any issue with the fact that he's got a side gig that allows him to do a job that pays him $1 million an episode less well?

Who actually does have the issue? Like, when they make this rule, like, who actually, who actually has the issue with him?

It's just paranoid football people. They're just crazy. They're all crazy about secrets and all of the information trafficking.

I mean, I don't know if the consumers have an issue. It was cited for a reason why Tom Brady struggled, at least early on. Again, should be mentioned that Tom Brady really had a nice end to the season and improved a lot. But Joe Buck and Troy Aikman are calling a Super Bowl this year. They're one of the more trusted broadcast teams. The ratings have gone up with them in that booth. I know football's gone up, but they really needed to improve that booth and they brought in one of the best, if not the best teams out there. It's already popped up. I mean, a quarterback didn't say what's up to Troy Aikman and said what's up to Joe Buck because he didn't know Troy Aikman from the meeting. So we're going to lose some friendships along the way.

Well, so, so Aikman isn't able to participate in the meetings, and that's because Joe Buck and then the producers are able to get the information out of the coaches and the coaching staff that they would like to get for the broadcast. Do we just assume that Joe Buck is not going to tell Troy Aikman? We're going by honor code here?

I trust that in Troy's approach to the game, he's super trusted, whereas Tom doesn't know what he's not getting from that and other teams like Tony Romo. If Tony Romo wasn't allowed, you'd question his preparation. Troy Aikman is considered a consummate professional, so I'm interested to see if there's any sort of drop-off.

Do you guys not think it's funny in any way though that the reason that Troy Aikman was hired by the Dolphins is because he has access to information from these meetings that he's not allowed in anymore?

That's— yeah, when you put it that way, what is he bringing to the table now that that spigot has been closed off?

A football team that is favored to win one football game this entire season has hired somebody— home against the Jets— has hired somebody who now, because of that hiring, has limits on his big full-time job that is a job that requires 17 Mondays from him. Jeremy, can you look up for me, please, what Troy Aikman made in his career, the most he made in a season playing quarterback? Because—

Oh, I want to guess.

I find it fairly extraordinary that all of this is in play. And when I say all of it, I mean all of it, that the Dolphins would hire this person because they think he has some sort of secret access that all their other football people can't get to, and that that person would now be banned from getting that information because of the full-time job he has that's not a full-time job that pays him— I'm guessing here, right? I'm doing the math. I don't know how many other obligations are in Troy Aikman's contract, but I think the obligation is he's got to work 17 days a year plus whatever the travel is before and after the game.

And the playoffs. They call a playoff game and they're calling the Super Bowl this year.

Man, you got to think twice about calling out sick. $1 million on the line.

That's pretty good. Pretty good job if you get it, but it doesn't even buy you exclusivity. Like, it doesn't even buy you the ability to do that job most well because now he is being actively kept out of the meetings where the information is supposed to be. And to me, all of that seems crazy. Let me, let me approach this from another angle when I talk about broadcasters and the guys getting the jobs. Luke Keekley is now the up-and-coming broadcasting star that people like. When they look at Tony Romo and they put him on the bench for a while, they replace him with J.J. Watt. Gronk has a job, even though Gronk is a notoriously bad talker. And I just wonder if you guys notice that the sport is, is disproportionately Black and the broadcasters that get hired are disproportionately white, and it's on purpose. Like, I'm asking the question, it's to make it palatable to the broadest section of people. And so I'm just asking if you guys notice that all of the up-and-coming people are always the white guys. We are so back. There aren't that many white stars in football. There are plenty of Black stars.

Why are the white ones—

Jason's got this one.

Why are the white ones the only ones who get the broadcasting jobs?

You see Jason looking into the custodian?

Conversely though, it's the Black players who then do all the podcasting. I mean, is it possible that most players— and obviously the league is disproportionately Black over white— is it possible that most of the players, they'd actually rather just do the podcasting?

No, that's where the independence and the availability is. That's the jobs are for them. They have to do it themselves because the mainstream's not actually hiring them.

That was a great job, Jason. I'm impressed. You pulled that out quick.

That's right.

I'm just wondering whether people notice that it's always JJ Watt, it's always Luke Keekley, as if there aren't a bunch of Jonathan Vilmas out there that are available.

I was gonna say Vilma's the only one I could think of right now. I was gonna say Vilma.

Yeah, there was that—

Jason Vilma.

There was that one year where we all were like, yeah, let's get Tlaib in there, he seems fun.

And then that Stuff happened.

Speaking of white and black, you see what's happening with WEEI? It's always WEEI, a notoriously famous—

Miss me?

A notoriously famous racially charged station in Boston. They— I don't know if they've suspended Will Fleming, but the radio announcer for the Red Sox got mad at Jazz Chisholm. because in a 6-0 game, Jazz Chisholm stole third base at the order of Aaron Boone yelling from the dugout, if you don't hold him on— he was warning them— if you do not hold him on, I am going to run. And then Will Fleming got really upset and said, typical bush league Jazz Chisholm, they should throw at him next time. I like Jazz Chisholm's quotes on this where Jazz Chisholm says, among other things, of Will Fleming, I didn't even know who I didn't know who that was until this morning, and I'm still not going to remember who he is after today. And Jazz Chisholm said the reason that they're unwritten rules is because they're not actually rules. You don't have to follow them. But I find it curious here, Zaslav— tired as well. It's always a white guy going after one of the flamboyant ethnic guys in baseball.

Right.

And protecting something that is Bostonian and specific to Boston very often. and, and specific to WEEI. But I sent over the vacation break, I just sent, uh, Jeremy a screenshot of the Reds scoring 7 runs in the 9th inning against the Giants. Like, 6-nothing, hold the guy on. Like, what are you talking about? You're gonna throw a Jazz Chisholm because he stole a base because you weren't holding him on when the Yankees are still trying to score runs and they want your infielders out of position. So they want you to be holding Jazz Chisholm on so they have more space in the field. But 6-nothing, when is that How is that an egregious offense to steal a base when you're up 6-nothing? How is that—

that—

I don't think that is even an unwritten rule. I think that's totally made up.

Up 6 runs, it was 7-1, and the Yankees go on to score 9 in the inning. So if the Yankees can score 9 in an inning when there were 2 innings left to play, if the Yankees can score 9 in an inning, like, why couldn't the Red Sox score? Like, the only way that this should be a thing that you're not able to run in that spot not— and I understand it's an unwritten rule, okay, save it— but the only reason that it should be a thing is if both managers at this point in the game, they both walk out onto the field and they shake hands and say, we are no longer trying these final 2 innings, let's just get out of here. Anything short of that, play, play the effing game.

I just can't believe that this would be the case in the modern game. 6 runs is not that much, like you just said. The Reds scored 7 runs. They stink! Their offense might be okay, but they stink and they could score 7 runs in the 9th inning. The Marlins scored 6 runs in the 9th just the other day based off the Nationals making errors. Like, this stuff happens all the time, and for them to call— look, if it was 13-1 in the 9th inning, maybe we're having this conversation, but this is sort of like people who think comebacks from, from 20 points with 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter are a big deal, the game has completely changed. The, the math, not to sound like Dan, is totally different.

Here was the clip of Will Fleming on WEI.

And you hold on to it, it's a catch. Chisholm's doing it again. By the way, look, you're up 6, it's the 8th, the team is electing not to hold you on. That's the white flag, right? And normally in that situation, you don't run. You don't run. Wouldn't you sort of like to see Moran drill Wells right here? Infield's coming in.

It's just—

that's selfish play, right? That's just padding your stats. Well, he's a bushwhacker. But guess what? I mean, it's not even a steal. Here's the pitch, and it's swung on and missed. I think that's indifference, don't you? Yeah, it's just, you know, that one of the unwritten rules, like, if we're holding you on, sure, if you get a jump, go. But if I'm gonna play behind you at first base, that's us just saying you just play the game, right? And normally you don't see guys try to steal in that situation up 6 here.

Fuck off, man. If in the 9th inning, like, they score 5 runs and all of a sudden it's a 1-run game, it's like, hey, you know, we would have taken that extra base and maybe scored an insurance run, but you weren't holding us, so we decided— oh, now we lost the game.

Best part about it is that the Red Sox scored 4 runs in the 9th just 2 days earlier against the Yankees.

And by the way, this is what he does, is very dog whistle. Everybody knows that.

Oh my God, it's crazy.

Even the flag is white. Dan is back!

Dan Levitar!

Yo, I'm not gonna lie.

Jonathan Saslow!

I, I look good in red.

This is the Dan Levitar Show!

We've got more SUI Awards to get to over the course of the show. I'm looking forward, uh, to doing that. Something I'm going to bring back, though, from literally years ago, because I was actually thinking about this on vacation by myself and it made me burst out laughing at the thought of what it is I'm about to say to you by myself. A while ago, Howard Bryant revealed on this show that waking up one morning, he tore both hamstrings. And the thing that made me laugh is I believe statistically I can assemble an argument that that's the The first time that's ever happened to a human being anywhere on Earth. Think about the number of times that you in our audience have torn a hamstring. Now think of all the times in athletics where you've heard of somebody doing something athletic where they've torn both hamstrings. Now make it just waking up. And I'm saying that I don't believe it's ever happened before in the history of humans or in the history of hamstrings where someone has woken up and torn both hamstrings. Do you think that if you had to place a wager and be right as to whether or not that had happened a single other time to anyone else in the history of human beings— not running, not has someone torn both hamstrings doing something athletic— has someone ever torn both hamstrings waking up in the morning?

Do you believe that has happened to anyone other than Howard Bryant?

I think it's a very real chance. That, that has never happened before? Because it— if you dialed it back and said to me, has it ever happened that someone tore their hamstring just getting out of bed? I would have to think that may have never happened before. But then when you add both hamstrings, I think it's quite possible it's never happened.

Has anyone in this room ever torn a hamstring? Have any of you torn a hamstring?

I've had the feeling where, oh crap, I need to not play softball for a couple weeks. But I don't know about tearing.

The answer is no. None of you— if you'd torn a hamstring, you'd know. And the answer is no one in this room has ever torn a single hamstring. I now want you to imagine the tearing of both hamstrings just waking up, and I defy you guys to make a— to assemble an argument for that having happened to anybody in the history of Earth before, because I don't believe that anybody's torn a hamstring just waking up. One hamstring. That has to be something that the statistical odds are lunacy on.

I'm vibing with what you're saying, Dan. Something fishy's going on here.

What do you mean?

He tore those hamstrings some, some other way. I mean, that— I'm with you. Who the hell could do both the hamstrings getting out of bed? Maybe he went for a jog and he was embarrassed. He was just running down the street and it just happened at the same time.

So much worse.

That's not more embarrassing.

If that happened to me, I'd be like, it happened in bed. I can't let people know.

What happened when he got out of bed and he tore— like, is he then just lying face down screaming? What, like, what's the result? He can't walk? You know, if you tear your hamstring, you see like the basketball player like kind of limping off. He tore both, so he's just like face down yelling?

Army crawl to the phone.

Having trouble breathing because he's just face down in the pillow.

Both going at the same time.

Roy, hit me.

Listen up. Time to think fast. Is this a real or fake podcast?

Welcome back, Dan. I've been saving this one for you. You know the game, real or fake podcasts, where I give you 5 podcast titles and you try to discern which one's real, which one's fake. First one up, Unguarded with Fred VanVleet.

I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say that that's fake because Fred wouldn't want—

not a lot of Freds in basketball or in sports for that matter, or VanVleets.

I'm gonna say that he wouldn't want, uh, something that suggests in the title that somehow he doesn't play any defense, even though it's honest that you're going for.

Yeah, I'm saying fake. It's a terrible name.

That is a real podcast, everybody. Unguarded with Fred VanVleet. You know that unguarded could mean several things, you know, not just— that's why he went with it.

It means he's open. That means he's open because he's not good.

Yes. Orange Slices with US Men's National Team international Heath Pierce. Orange Slices with Heath No way.

No.

He guessed it on Morally Abhorrent to promote orange slices with Heath Pierce.

Get out of here.

Yes, it's real. You don't know your soccer?

It's a Little League baseball thing.

Yeah.

It's also a soccer thing. Orange slices are something that they dole out to the kids in soccer.

I'd say it's more of a soccer thing. Take that, Jim.

That's why it's called orange slices. Chasing number 1 with Ja'Marr Chase.

That's a pretty good title, actually.

I don't think his name is Chase. He wears number 1, chasing number 1.

He's one of the few people in sports that wears on his uniform something that suggests to the people behind him what it is they should be doing. It's a verb on his uniform. I was thinking about this yesterday with, uh, Jansen Junk. What a great name for somebody who doesn't strike anybody else.

Awesome. Just the best.

I'm gonna say yes, that's a podcast.

That's a real podcast. It's new.

Just announced yesterday. Chasing number 1.

Try to think of another name in football that it would be what you're talking about.

Jammer. Quentin Jammer. Okay.

And the West is History with David West.

I don't believe he does media like that. David West doesn't— what, he didn't love talking?

And the West is History.

If he were doing a podcast, he wouldn't be doing a pun.

He's doing it with a lisp, like notorious tough guy David West doing it.

Talks like Elmer Fudd in his podcast. And the West is history with David West.

No, no.

I want it to be real.

Yeah. Jerry West.

Just hear him intro it. Welcome back to And the West is History.

It's a clever idea.

Yeah.

And that's how he ends it. But as they say, the West is history.

It's just one of those 1-minute podcast intros.

All right, last one. Shut Up and Dribble with Delonte West and Michael Beasley.

What a crew.

You gotta be kidding, Mike. There's no— I mean, shut up and dribble. No, no, Delonte West can't be doing a podcast. He's truly troubled.

So I thought it had been because he's homeless.

Unhoused. Oh no, wait, we can say home.

Yeah, we're good now.

Yeah, we're good. Uh, guys, for the first time in history I think this is both a real and fake podcast. Let me explain.

Wow.

It was definitely announced that they were doing a podcast together called Shut Up and Dribble, which by the way is like the 17th podcast called Shut Up and Dribble. I believe JaMelle Hill and Kerry Champion had one called Shut Up and Dribble. It's a popular name, but best I can tell, this was announced several months ago in the spring. There has not been an episode. So it is both real and fake.

I mean, Delonte West has had real issues, and you mentioned homelessness, but I don't even put that at the top of the list. Like, the people who care about Delonte West have really cared about him and his mental frailties. And so just the idea of that doing a podcast seems crazy to me. Real?

It's a real—

we hope it's real. Let's just get introspective with it. It can't be real.

Well, the West is history.

Uh, with Jerry West, with Delonte West would have made more sense to me than with David West. Like, notorious tough guy David West.

Be locked in, subscribe right away. And the rest is history.

Uh, what was the podcast, Zazz, that this, uh, that this appeared on? Uh, Jonathan Kuminga, uh, turned down about 3 years, $75 million from, uh, the Golden State Warriors, ends up signing with the Minnesota Timberwolves for 2 years, $12 million. And Aaron Turner had him on. Uh, Aaron Turner is his agent.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And what was the podcast that Aaron Turner appeared on?

He appeared— well, he, he did like a PR tour yesterday, this agent Aaron Turner. because the Kuminga situation is— everybody's saying you gotta fire your agent, you know, you turned down so much money 2 years ago and now you just signed a deal for $12 million for 2 years, like, your agent fumbled the bag, you know? So this Aaron Turner, he's going around, he's doing a PR tour, and one of the shows that he did yesterday to defend the contract and Kuminga's current status, he went on the Ringer podcast, all right? The Kevin O'Connor Show.

Is that still a Ringer podcast? I'm not sure it is anymore.

No, he's with Yahoo now.

Yeah, so like I said, with Yahoo now, the Kevin O'Connor Show on Yahoo, definitely not The Ringer.

You're a Yahoo.

Yeah, and Dan, you gotta listen to this intro, okay? You've never heard— this is— he's onboarding the guests here.

He's staring right at him.

Yeah, he's onboarding the guests. You gotta hear this intro.

All right, joining me now is NBA agent Aaron Turner. Aaron, how are you doing? I'm good, Kevin.

How you doing?

So Jonathan Kuminga just signed a 2-year, $12.4 million deal. Gilbert Arenas called it a Costco member deal. Ty Lawson said to pack your agent up immediately. Sam Viscini called it malpractice. Max Kellerman said you're hustling backwards. It's been a busy weekend for you, Aaron Turner. How would Aaron Turner describe everything that's transpired this past year, though?

Answer not important.

Welcome to the show.