Transcript of Giggling about k-holes, proposals, and saturn returns

What's up, gigglers? Gary, fix the WiFi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

I mean, the day just got away from me.

What is up, my glorious gigglers? It's the end of the... It's an awkward time in between Christmas and New Year's where no one knows what to do with their hands.

You know one thing, first of all, Hannah and I just stared at each other for two minutes, and then Hannah goes, Are you waiting for me? And I said, You start the pod every week. Why? Anyway, you know what I've realized? Other pods have seasons. Thanks so much for this season. And we're like, What? What?

No, other people do four episodes, and they're like, See you next season.

I'm like, Wait, what are you guys doing? I go crazy.

This whole week, I'm like, I can This is a lifestyle.

I need to talk to Hannah about this.

This is a branded cult that we do every week. I don't care what's going on in our lives. But you told me you're like, Just start the pod and go with it. What's happening? I'm scared.

Just go with it. No, I'm just...

You just want to start the pod.

Let's start with, How was your Christmas?

We got a great question. It was magical because I blackmailed my brother and his wife to come to New York I saw that. From Indiana. When I tell you I have no self-control when it comes to being an aunt, Lois realized that she could ask me for presents at any time, and she will get it. She just kept coming up to me looking so fucking cute and being like, Can I open another present? This is the 22nd, by the way. She's celebrating Hanica at this point. She just gave me another present. I'm like, Okay, because you know I got her three million- She's like, What's for Quanza? Every time she went up to me, she was like, Wouldn't it be crazy if you gave me another present? Right now, would that be crazy? And I'm just like, Yeah, don't tell mom. And then my brother found out I've been giving her presents. He's like, That's literally the whole thing. But when I went shopping for a three-year-old, it was so fun because I went into a toy store and the guy was like- Which, do they exist?

What toy store?

I went to one in West Hampton, and I walked in, and the guy was like, Hey, how are you? And I said, Good. He goes, Age and interests. I said, Great question. Three years old, mermaids, sparkles, purple. If there's no sparkles, she gets very upset. And he goes, Okay, we got this, this, this. Like, literally recommending it like an influencer. He's like, This is amazing. The kids are loving this.

No, bring back mom and pop toy stories. Yes.

Support the small communities.

You can't even really find good toys on online.

I do have to say it's so much more fulfilling going into a store, looking at all the toys, touching them, shaking them, listening to them and being like, She's going to lose her mind at this. Some toys are uniquely complicated. I I had her this manicure set, couldn't figure out how to do it. She figured it out. She said, Hannah, you're a quitter. You have to stop quitting. I just had so much fun being the aunt that was spoiling her little nieces and nephews.

Christmas is so much better when there's little kids around.

When there's no little kids, it's creepy.

No, it's low-key creepy. This was the first year. This was the first year my brother left on Christmas Day and went to his girlfriend's family.

I'm so sorry, it's really dramatic. That's dramatic.

No, Hannah, it was actually so dramatic. I looked at my parents and I was like, So what should we do?

No, when you're the lone one left. You're just like, How you all doing?

It's also there's something about when I go home, I can't not be 16 years old. It's actually so annoying. I get so mad at myself, but it's like, right when I go over the threshold, I immediately turn into a brat. I do nothing. I bring my vitamins. I bring my skincare. I don't even do that because I'm like, What is time? When is dinner?

There was a TikTok by that guy, Brett Neustrum, who's so funny, and he was joking about that and how you're just like, Mom, can I have some water? And she's like, You can get it. And it's like, No, I'm sitting on the couch right now, and I have a blanket on me. I can't get up.

No, I literally was like, Dad, would it be crazy if you poured me a Diet Coke on ice? That was all I said the whole time.

You're literally lowest to me. Wouldn't it be crazy?

And my mom saw one quote and so wouldn't stop saying it the entire fucking Every holiday. She was like, Every holiday is unique, and you have to cherish every holiday because it's unique. I was like, I'm going to fucking kill you.

Marilyn Monroe. That's what Marilyn Monroe said. Thank you, Kim, for raising awareness of joy.

Me and my mom both got each other sentimental gifts this year, which I just felt like was very... We were so telepathic because usually her and I are the ones that will get each other some type of clothes thing. I usually get her a coat or a pair of boots or something. And she has this joke with me that every mom gets a robe. Everyone lists all their presents. I think it was an SNL skit at some point. Everyone's like, I got a watch. I got this, and blah, blah, blah. And every mom's like, I got a robe. So I always get her a robe So I get her a robe every year. And then she had one of my grandma's antique chairs that I love reupholstered into baby blue velvet, which is my favorite. Oh, my God. It was so sweet. And then I got her a picture of her and I. As you should. Like, blown up from a Daphné photoshoot. She was like, Where am I putting this? I'm like, In the foyer.

It's a cardboard cut out of you just all over the house.

It's a family photo of the two most important family members.

I do have to say, as feminists, what I love to do during the holiday season to be at the forefront of feminism is any traditional roles that women play in the household, especially a female family, Italian family. Excuse me. When we're all finished eating and the women just naturally stand up and start picking up the plates, I stay sat. And I look at the man and I said, Can you take my plate, please? And then if I get any pushback, I said, I own this house.

As someone As someone who doesn't live in a feminist household at all- By the way, my mom did everything, but continue.

No.

I literally...

I'm 30... I'm trying to change generational trauma.

I'm so right there with you. I'm 33 years old. I'm still not even allowed to wash the dishes. I can only dry. So that is my job at every family gathering, Paige dries all the dishes.

I don't think it matters if you bought something or not. However, Thanksgiving once, I bought all the catering, and I was like, I'm not cleaning up after I bought the catering. It's like, I'm fine if you guys are like, Oh, we bought it, so you guys clean up, then we're going to reverse it. Also, I do have to say my mom and my dad do have a very, very They are a good team. My mom will cook, and he's immediately cleaning. Now, that's a test of a marriage because my mom always toasts, and I'll always catch my dad and just her and my dad in the kitchen.

They don't know anyone's listening. And I'll always catch my dad be like, Good job, Kim. You did a really good job this year. And I'm like, Oh, my God. That is so sweet. She's like, You think so? Oh, thanks. That's so nice.

It's so sweet. Is Gary senior good at getting Kim gifts? That evil laugh. No.

Okay, because I think- No.

My dad is famously the worst gift giver to my mom. She literally is like, just get me something from a spa. Just get me a massage, get me a facial. That's all I need. And he goes to places and gets convinced by the salesperson that he needs to buy something. They don't know my mom. This one, he bought her a cordyroid jacket, and she was like, Why the fuck? She hasn't cursed, but that's what she was saying with her eyes. Why the fuck would you think I want this?

Wait, yeah, your mom doesn't curse.

She's not big on the curse bump. She says it with her eyes. And we all just start laughing because, again, men buying women clothes is such a risk, and he keeps doing it, and we keep saying, Don't do that. Unless it's something sentimental, get her a classic spa certificate.

Yeah, that's such an easy one. I don't know why for whatever this year, I don't know, maybe it's because we're getting older or if it was just in social media this year, I really feel like there was such an emphasis on Christmas magic is just your mom. It's like, Oh, this year doesn't have Christmas It's magic. It's like, Okay, well, that's because you're in your 20s and your mom is older. It's such a crazy shift to think.

Yeah, but that age group where you don't have little kids when it's just you and no one is excited really about Santa. You wake up, you're like, Oh, Santa. It's an awkward age.

I will say this year, I have had the same mattress in my bedroom at home since I was in high school. It's just I needed a new mattress I was like, You know what, Mom? I'm going to order a new mattress. I'm going to order just... I needed a new bed frame. I'm just going to slowly redo that room. And nothing crazy. I'm not going in in totally. I just got a new bed, and she came up to me and said something like, Oh, well, when you have a baby. I immediately was like, A baby? That baby's not going in my room.

The baby's taking your room, Cam.

I'm like, This is my room.

What baby?

And she's like, I mean...

It is so cute that she's kept your room exactly the same because a lot of parents, they turn it into a little gym, a work room.

No, I go home too much to not have a room, and I would feel so violated.

As we learned a couple of weeks ago, my Nana never had a room. But I digress. I digress. I digress. I do have to say I did pretty good with Dez's gifts, which I've had some rough goes in the past. But he's obsessed with Severance. I saw on Amazon, there's the book, The You, You, R, which is the book from the show. I literally bought him the book. So he's like a nerd, and he thought that was funny.

Wait, that's so sweet. If anyone ever got me a book, I'd be fucking livid. Unless it's how to giggle.

I know. But I was giving how to giggle out to everyone. They're like, I already bought it. I'm like, Here's the How to giggle. But then also he doesn't drink. And we went to his restaurant once. Basically, non-alcoholic drinks are becoming very cool. Like a sparkling tea, a Norwegian whatever. And he said he liked it. I wrote it down like a good girlfriend because he's my boyfriend. I got him the sparkling tea. And you would have thought it was like he was going to rage that night. So he was chugging his sparkling tea, reading the book.

Actually, one of my cousins told me this year at Christmas dinner, she was like, I just found out that I'm allergic to alcohol. I was like, wait, I should go get tested for that because- You love getting tested for things. I love getting tested for things. No, I love getting tested for things. Oh, update on my UTI. No, Hannah, you have no idea how many screenshots I have of DMs. First of all, it's astonishing- I'm getting them. It's astonishing the amount of gigglers that are doctors. I know.

It's actually worrisome. It's quite worrisome.

I'm like, Wait, and you listen to me, bitch? You're so much smarter than me. I have so many screenshots of what gigglers have said to me because I was like, I'm never going to be able to find these DMs again. I have to screenshot all of them. A bunch of girls were like, Hey, urologist is great, but that's really for men. You need to go. I'm like, What?

You're so mad right now.

I was so mad. They were like, You need to go to a urologist gynecologist. I didn't even I know that was a fucking thing. I was like, Oh, okay, then I'm not going to a urologist wasting my time and his. I need to find a urologist gynecologist.

Isn't that just a gynecologist? I don't know.

No, they specialize in urology.

Urology, gynecologist. Yes. Well, I keep getting DMs, and it's like, Please send this to Paige. At first, I'm like, Do I have to? Then I'm like, What if this is the advice that changes her life? I'm like, You're You're so dramatic. I texted you one. I was like, I think this is it. And you were like, Calm down. I was like, What if the answer is in my DMs and I didn't forward it to you?

You are Lenore. You're literally slowly turning into Lenor.

I don't want that karma. I don't need that.

No, that's actually so cute.

Wait, I also have a new ick. This is the craziest ick I've ever gotten. The fact that his parents made him No, I have an ick. That's disgusting.

Wait, okay. That's a little broad. That's a little broad, but you're saying him as a child?

No, that he was a sperm, and then it was like, they literally one day were hooked up. Don't be conceived. That's so- If you're a guy, don't be. He was nothing, and then his parents made him. He wouldn't be here if his parents didn't have sex. That's disgusting.

I've been seeing I saw a lot of people getting engaged on Christmas, on TikTok. Here's the other thing. Half the time, I don't know if it's a skit or not, but the only time I'm literally 95 years old, I have to go in the comments. I'm like, Is This is a skit? The amount of women I've seen proposing to met... I was like, This has to be a skit. There's just no way. There was one comment, and it was like, Girl, stand up. Because she was like, She was kneeling down proposing, and this girl was just... The comment was just, Girl, stand up. I was like, What is going on? That is insane.

What is going on? But I wonder if it's super traditional, he's going to take care of the household, and maybe she's...

Even if they say they are, do they?

I know. They're not going to do it as well as someone else. They don't have the heart.

No, you got to have a heart. I just couldn't imagine ever Well, because I wouldn't ever wonder, What do you have proposed to me? Well, yeah. And I can't imagine as a man being comfortable getting proposed, too. She literally just called you a beta bitch without saying that.

I thought you were going to say beta blocker.

No, I would need a beta blocker. If someone said, You have to propose, I'd be like, What?

I did see one of those videos, and it was in front of the whole family.

Yeah, it was probably the one I saw.

Maybe Maybe it was a lavender marriage. You just can't judge. You don't know people's dynamics.

I was thinking about how last year, this exact episode is the episode where... It's just crazy how things change in a year.

I know.

Before we recorded this episode, I was like, Oh, my God. Last year at this time, I was probably shaking, had to take a beta because I was about to say that I broke up, I'm going through a breakup. And it was this episode. And I'm literally in my childhood bedroom, which is where I recorded it. I was thinking about it again this year when I was home for Christmas, and I was like, First of all, how dramatic. How dramatic.

You were not being dramatic. It was the time.

But it's just crazy. You think of things and you're like, Oh, my God, that was a year ago, and I feel so insanely different, obviously, from a whole year. I feel like I get so many DMs from girls like, I'm going through a breakup. How do you go through a breakup? I also get a lot of girls in my DMs being like, I think I should break up with my boyfriend, but I don't know if it's the right time. How do you know if it's right or not?

I love how you've become the breakup artist.

I'm like, Guys, I have no freaking idea.

If you feel the need to DM Paige to ask her about your boyfriend, it's break up with him. It's done.

That's the answer. It's done. Honestly, that Hannah, thank you.

If you click on her profile, that means you should break up with him.

I'm going to just see what Paige thinks real You don't want to date him anymore.

You hate him. He's gay.

I get so many girls. I feel like one of the reasons for me, I was always thinking about the aftermath. Oh, my God, what's going to happen after? What are people going to say? Blah, blah, blah. I feel like that made me freeze. I was frozen for so long with the fear of that. It's such a waste of time because, one, nothing could even happen, or I couldn't have cooked up in my head what happened this year. It's like, Don't let that. It was 10 times worse than what I was imagining. Okay, so don't even worry about it. It's going to be way worse. Just pull the trigger.

But it's pull the trigger is right. You were in fight or flight, but you weren't fighting and you weren't flighting. No, I was frozen. You were stuck. And the truth is, moving is the best thing you could do because then there'll be a different issue, at least.

No, then there will be a different issue.

Don't get stuck with the same issue. That's boring.

I might as well have seen rumors that I was a drug dealer. I was like, I can make that more plausible than what you're saying currently.

Move the plot line of your life. Keep moving it. I always felt, though, once I was over a guy, I felt like I was going to throw up. Every time I talked to him, I felt like I was about to say, I don't want to be with you anymore. You were much better at... You're like a cat, actually, where they say, a cat can be really sick, but they won't show it, and no one knows that they're sick. Where a dog will be like,.

Yeah. Shitting everywhere, vomiting.

That's me, where I literally am like, I don't care what's on the other side, at least it'll be different than what I'm feeling now, which is not sustainable, where you're like, I think I can manage this for a couple of years.

I feel like it also forced me into... This year, I really feel like I was forced into learning the lesson of let people be wrong about you, which is uncomfortable and frustrating, which I hate. But I feel like because I was on reality TV, I could never learn that I couldn't let people be wrong about me because it was like, I was getting asked about it all the time. Now, when I see anything about myself, and it's an uncomfortable feeling of like, Okay, well, that's not true, or like, What the hell is that? It's more like being comfortable, being like, Okay, well, you're wrong about me. And I feel like this summer was the first summer in seven years that I didn't have anyone being like, What's every thought you're having? And tell us everything and what's going on. And so it was just a very transformative year in that sense. And then even to the point of when I did start seeing someone, I felt like I couldn't even say anything because it was like I had a group of ops filming a TV show, and I obviously wasn't telling them any personal information about my life because when people are so committed.

No, seriously, when people are so committed to hate you.

Their full-time job. Their full-time job.

You're like, Okay, well, I can't even give an ounce of personal information because you'll run with it and twist it I can't change it. And it's so crazy.

That's why I don't talk about my relationship, except on Giggly Squad, the little things that I feel the gigglers will laugh at.

Yeah, it was just such an interesting It was an interesting year because I feel like we did so many things professionally, which were amazing. Then personally, I felt like I was really learning a lot of lessons that I wouldn't have been able to learn and complete without leaving reality TV.

Which is crazy. You're being so reflective. I'm obsessed with that.

Well, even just getting into a summer where you're like, Wait a minute, I don't have to spill my guts?

Or if you don't spill everything, you're considered evil. If you want to protect yourself at all, you're a bad person.

Right. If you don't explain everything or talk about every single rumor, it's like, Okay, but then I'm giving people who are making things up about me control. I'm not, No. Fuck that. Say whatever you want about me. I don't give a shit.

I think you got to the point with reality TV where they just force you to have opinions on so many things that you regularly would not have opinions on. You're I don't want to talk about other people's lives to this extent.

Yeah, there was a certain amount of emotional growth that I was like, I don't think I'm feeling things that I should be feeling at my age. Do you know what I mean?

So true.

I still mentally felt in my 20s, and I was like, I'm turning 33.

Well, you're stuck in something. You're stuck in another. You're stuck in a storyline.

I felt, honey. Yes. Honey. And I was like, Okay, got to go.

I do love, though, you saying being okay with being misunderstood. As a people pleaser, that was really hard for me. But I think you realize, Oh, people are going to go out of their way to misunderstand you. And no matter how hard you try. It's like, do you want to have a losing battle with people who... You could literally be Mother Teresa, and they'll be like, I don't like how she did that. It's like, do you want to have your whole life be you trying to... It's like with friends, trying to get people to like you who decided before they met you, they don't like you.

It's the over explaining. I really was thinking about it, too, because I'm sure a lot of people feel like this around the holidays when they're with their families, having to over explain who you're dating, what your job is, just different things. That's what really made me think about it. I was just like, no, be wrong about me. I feel like that is a part of growing up. You don't have to explain every single thing, and you don't have to make people like... You don't have to tell people why they should like you. It's none of your business. I mean, mine was also a little different because there was rumors that were just categorically false, but I was like, Fuck it. I don't give a shit.

It's very violating feeling, and I think everyone's dealt with rumors and stuff about them, but it always stems from something that doesn't have to do with you, is what I've learned. It's always people projecting their shit on and you represent something to them, which as two people who don't shut up, we get in the firing squad every now and then. I mean, yeah, this last year, I had tons of ups and downs. I have to say there was something about your notes. We all write a lot of notes. Do you ever accidentally scroll down to your notes from 2017? And I literally had a list of funny videos I wanted to make. And in that moment- Stop. That's so cute. No, I almost cried because Because I'm looking at these videos and I'm like, I was just so excited to try to make people laugh. I didn't know what the fuck was about to happen in my life.

When we started Giggly Squad?

Pre-summerhouse.

You're saying personally? Okay, sorry. Yeah.

But if you look, my notes literally are my journal, my notes on my phone, where you see the stuff I was brainstorming, the stuff that I was just doing during the week, just any weird numbers. But it's so interesting to scroll through your notes app. Also, a big life update for me. Maybe my second biggest of the year, the first one was the driver's license. I went to Verizon yesterday, and I got off the family plan. No, I know. It took an hour. It took a full hour of customer service. My hands were sweating. If you guys know me, I hate admin. Des literally was like, put me- So it's just you and Des on a plan. No, I know. And I was like, he's not my emergency contact They were like, no, I said, okay, just checking. But I was still in my parents' plan because it's so difficult to get off it. And my dad was just, I guess, billing me each month, skimming some off the top. Who knows? Yeah, who knows? Who knows? And so finally, I'm off it. Des and I are on a family plan together now. So it's serious.

Wait. I actually think that's more serious than emergency contact.

Are you selling your family plan?

Sure I Yeah.

Okay. I felt like that's a Italian thing.

What? I'm going to start a family plan with myself.

You and Daphne? You could join ours if you want. I don't know if that's legal, actually, but it was... I don't know. Wait.

Do you have to actually be in the same family to have a family plan?

I'm like, That's my best friend.

Right.

That's- That's family.

That's family. Yeah. How would you prove it? Just be like, Oh, well, she has a different last name because she got married.

They didn't even ask for a relationship.

That's so interesting.

Very interesting. I don't know the technicalities, but like, Des and I literally physically went to a Verizon store. I took a deep breath, and I was like, Fuck me up, fam. And I survived it, and I got the new... I had an iPhone 13. Now I have an iPhone 17. Things have changed. It's really good. It is. I just took a photo of my cat so far, but it was really good photo. And finally, I learned it actually does work if you download shows before you go on a plane. I thought you made that up. Wow.

2026 is like, my friends are realizing things.

I thought that you just said that so you didn't have to talk to me on the plane.

No, that's a real thing. It really works.

And I watched the Norman Wives. Well, I'm in the Whitney lore, and I wanted to see what was going on. Can I talk shit?

Yeah, sure.

Since we're getting into it. Whenever When you see a drama of someone not showing up to a party, it's so fucking produced, I can't deal with it.

Yeah.

The fact that... You know Whitney was like, Oh, I'm not really close to Taylor anymore. Also, she spread a lot of rumors about me. Obviously, the producers made it really chill with Whitney like, Yeah, you don't have to go. You know that they weren't like, This is a huge deal. Everyone's going to be mad. They definitely were like, Yeah, some people aren't coming. You don't have to go. I know you're mad of Taylor. You don't have to. And she was like, Sure, okay, I have a family. I'll watch them today. Then all the girls show up, and then they make the mom call Whitney. And Whitney's like, I've never talked to her on the phone before at all. It's so fucking made up. The mom doesn't even know who Whitney is, and she's like, How could you not come to my... It's literally so made up. And then all the girls are like, Where's Whitney? Where's Whitney? I'm like, This should win an Oscar. This is amazing. And the fact that America turned on her, starting on that.

Okay, sometimes I will be watching a reality TV show, and I'm like, shoot, we make fun of the men so bad for watching the WWE when in reality, sometimes the thing... We're watching the girl version of WWE sometimes.

And by the way, I fully support reality TV I don't support people watching a show and believing that a person is that evil as they're trying to... And that everyone else is like, God is angels, and one person is evil, just putting fire on Everyone. Anyway, that's my two cents about that. Since we're on... What have you been... Oh, what?

I was going to say one more thing that I forgot to say that I wanted to say. Since I feel like this is our new thing, every December, right before New Year's, we just have an unhinged episode. So something else happened to me during the year that I couldn't say in real-time, but I think it's not funny, but it's like there is a part that is funny. I was dealing with a stalker situation. Nothing really crazy, but also had to get people involved to the point where at some point I had to go into a police station. So I'm walking- That's admin. No. No, I'm so stressed. No, Hannah, the admin. I got a text message and it was like, I think It's time for you to file a police report.

And I go, File a police report? What? They'd be like, What's your full name? And I'm like, I can't do this. I can't do this. What's your date of birth? I don't know.

So I don't even think I told you this story. So I'm walking to police station, and I'm nervous. I'm going over the story in my head. I'm like, Okay, and I have to show them this and this, and this, and blah, blah, blah. I walk in there, and I'm thinking, straight SVU. Papers are going to be flying. Phone's going to be ringing off the hook. Someone's going to be in handcuffs, yelling. I'm bracing myself.

A police siren is going to go off.

Something's happening in there. I open the door. You could hear a pin drop. Nobody's even in there. There was maybe two people in the back. I go up to the window, up to the lady. I tell her my whole story, and she looks at me, and she's like, Yeah, we'll keep... Basically, you're being dramatic, we'll keep an eye on it type thing. But in my head... Here's the other thing. All I wanted to do was tell the gigglers, but I was like, This is just not safe. It's obviously under control now, and I have a handle on the situation. But the I would say that the movies and TV shows, I actually left pissed. I was like, okay, so it's not like SVU at all.

You have to start watching documentaries, girl, because no one listens to anyone. No one's listening to anything, and everything is done wrong.

I was like, I feel like you're not taking this seriously. I retold my story. I was like, No, but listen to this part.

Or people will file reports about serious things, and no one will flag it like, This could escalate.

I'm going to be honest. My doorman, my doorman in my building, I was told them the whole story, told the police situation, printed I got a picture of the person, hung it up in the wall. Any time I had to leave, they would walk me out, look both ways. One time, one of my doormen got in my Uber and said, Let me see your face, because I was nervous that the person that was... Well, my mom got me nervous that the person that was stalking me was going to sign up for Uber and then become an Uber driver. We got into a real spiral a while ago, a couple of months ago. But anyway, I was been dying to tell this on the pod, but I legitimately couldn't. Anyway, stay safe out there, girls.

You got a guy to resolve it on- Yeah, I got it.

Essentially, it's taken care of.

We're not going to hear from you anymore.

Don't worry about it. Look, the NYPD was busy, took situation into my own hands. We're all good. No one's going to be bothering me for a while.

I got a friend in Sicily that deals with this stuff. Don't worry about it. He specializes in it.

Watch your fucking back.

Well, I'm really, really, really, really sorry that you had to go through that.

Thank you. No, it was honestly a transformative year. I feel so... I just feel like we had the best year.

Yeah. No, totally. And I think the year wasn't easy. It had a ton of ups and downs, but I feel like we were more equipped to deal with adversity.

We became New York Times best selling authors.

I totally forgot.

No, I literally forgot. I was looking back in my pictures and I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, me and Hannah played at Radio City in January.

I do have to say I think it's a little annoying on my feed when people are like, Best moments of 2025. And then they post like, I did this, I did this, I did this, I did this. I did this. I did this. I did this. I posted one of those. No, you posted best outfits.

On TikTok, I posted best moments of doing it.

It was everything I did. Because, Paige- You want to know what, though?

Mine is outfit-focused. I'm showing all those moments. So you give me a pass. Other people are bragging.

I don't like when people are super, super bragging.

No, other people brag about it. I don't. I'm just literally showing my outfit.

You used it as a vehicle to show your outfits through video. Because I just feel like it could make people feel bad Because I'm like, it's just also a lot of these people accomplish a lot of things, but they were miserable the whole time. I just want to raise awareness about that. Were you happy?

Was I happy? No.

I just feel like sometimes.

No, that's so true. I feel like that is why I love Giggly Squad, because after we do... No, because after we did Jimmy Fallon, anyone could have looked at those pictures and been like, amazing. Little did they know we almost passed out behind the curtain prior to. There's a lot of things that you do that are cool that I'm like, I almost died.

A hundred %. When you're seeing other people's year in review, I almost posted a funny one that was like, I grew up my nails, Guinness Booker World records long with the gel still on. That was pretty crazy. But driver's license is honestly my biggest.

That was a really big accomplishment. Speaking of accomplishments, I saw this. Actually, I don't even know if it's real. Oh, my God. I literally, I can't even on the internet anymore.

You did send me an AI cat thing.

Yeah, well, that I knew was fake. Okay. I saw this thing that it was a story about Michelle and Barack Obama, and it said that- I wrote that down, too.

We both had the same note for the first time ever.

That Barack Obama said to Michelle that he ran into her high school or college boyfriend, and he's a... What was his job? He's a doctor. And Barack said to Michelle, You would have been a doctor's wife. And she turned around and said, No, he would have been the President.

And I thought, Oh, that is-I have chills. She would have been the President's wife.

That is so just like, It's so true, though.

That's why all the men are trying to marry us because men know they need us. There's so many men that I'm like, If he had a girlfriend, he would have his shit so much more together.

So together. Also, men with a woman-Name a man.

Name a man you've been inspired by recently. Name an inspirational man. The men in Heated Rivalry.

And what a good segue.

Did you go to the cottage?

Of course. Where'd you watch it? It's the year of the cottage in my bedroom at home, at my parents house. And I was texting one of my friends who is a gay man, and We were just chit-chatting about the show, and he said, Paige, I don't think you're understanding because this came out during Christmas break, there's so many gay men who are home watching this in their childhood bedrooms, which is the first place that they had these first thoughts of I'm gay, watching gay porn. And he was like, And so to watch a television show in my childhood bedroom that is like this? He was like, I just can't explain it to you. And that I was like, Oh, my God. Obviously, I didn't think of that, but it really changed my whole perspective.

Also, we still come from the generation of guys who had to come out.

Yes.

Obviously, the Gen Zs and the Gen alphas have to come out, but it's easier. Guys our age, there was very few guys who were out in high school.

Right. Wait, did you see on TikTok the straight men who used to play hockey, they have a podcast. I want to say it's the Netters, something. I'll look it up. Two straight men, ex-NHL players, watched every episode and reviewed it. And it was so refreshing to see because they were genuinely talking about the plot, and they were like, I'm obsessed with him. They've got to get together. And it was like, no, this is how it should be talked about by straight men.

What I'm obsessed with Heated Rivalry, too, is that they also happen to be the best players in the league. The guy who won the Cup, the two other guys, they're all the best players. So it's almost like, I don't know. I wonder if more athletes are going to come out. This is fucking huge.

No, I really think it is like such a cultural- I better see some fucking men making out at the end of the Super Bowl or I'm going to be pissed. Wouldn't that be nice?

I want to see some Mom, it's clinking.

No, I want the men to do something. Do something crazy like that. It's always the girls. It's like we had Brittany and Christina make out on stage. Like, Guys, do something. Spice it up.

I do have to admit, I did go through a depression because I decided to watch season one of euphoria in two days. And I was alone in the house.

That It is so not even a you show. What did you think?

No, I forced myself. I feel like the filmography. Is that a word?

Filmography? Totally.

Was cool. It was well done.

It gives A24. Yes.

I appreciate art, but also I don't care about drugs, and I don't care about kids in high school. But I do think it was Zendaya's best work.

I care about both of those things.

I literally was like, Oh, I'm doing drugs. I'm like, I love it.

Nothing I love more than a teeny bopper freaking high school show. And if one of them dies in it, even better. Fuck, yeah.

It also gives me like, you just remember high school and you remember being like, I just feel bad for myself because it's like, there's no way you can understand what's going on or get control of the situation. But you're trying so hard to understand who you are and the social dynamics.

I think euphoria is a bit extreme. I highly doubt that is the norm. There's no way that's the norm of high school kids. Have you watched Tell Me Lies?

No, that's on my list. But again, another one that I'm a little scared of.

I think you should start that because the third season is coming out.

That's why I watch you for it because the third season. Also, I am in a K-Hole with Great British Baking Show.

It just threw me off that you said K-Hole because my first thought was like, does she actually know what that is? Do you know what that is? No.

But it felt right. It felt right. I envision a K-hole is like, you get really high and you just see a bunch of Ks.

Do you know I think one of the main reasons why I'm not scared to get older is because even though we're a similar age, you'll always feel older to me because you don't know certain things that people our age know.

Wait, I love that you're like, I'm not afraid to be older because you'll always be older than me, and I can always be like, at least I'm not Hannah's age. By the way, guys, one year. It's one year. Also, I've been hanging out. I went to a couple of coffee dates with this girl who's like 30, 31. And she looks at me and she goes, It's so nice to have an older friend. No, I actually almost threw up. I was like, What are you talking about? She's like, No, no, no. All my friends are in their 20s. And it's just nice to be with someone who's like- No, all my friends aren't dead.

What?

Oh, my God. When did I become like, I'm not someone's wise friend. I'm young and fun. No, I know. Also, Page and I- Wait, what did you say you were in a K-Hole from? Great British Baked Show. Oh, right, right, right, right, That note's good. Haven't you watched? Yeah. It's really good. At the end of the day, after watching Euphoria for so long, I needed something soft.

No, that makes a lot of sense.

It's like when you date a really horrible man, and then immediately you have to date the nicest guy on the planet, and he's way too nice. But you're like, I just need this for six months. Just let me have this. I've just been hearing people talk about puddings and loaves and...

It really gets your mind right. Because then you're like, nothing's a big deal.

It's very funny. Would they help each other.

Someone's like- Isn't that amazing?

Someone's three-layer cake is falling and someone's like, Oh, can I help you there? They're like, Oh, of course. It's so nice. Speaking of TV, so Paige and I got asked to do this end of the your thing for ABC, Year In Review, which was giving me PTSD confessional style. Yes. And you're so good at confessionals.

And it was before I got my veneer, which I'm really annoyed about. But anyway.

Well, the clips came out, and I have a note. You, your angle is my good side, and my angle... And by the way, we're solo. My angle is my bad side.

Who do I talk to? No, my angle was what you wanted, and your angle was what I wanted.

No, I know.

Yeah.

What do we do? I don't know. Should we tell them not to play it?

I guess I didn't realize it was happening as we were filming it, but I think the funniest thing about this was that Me and Hannah got asked to do this together, but we were filming on separate days because of whatever schedule stuff. The night before Hannah, I texted Hannah and I go, What are you wearing to the ABC thing?

You knew in your heart?

You felt it. She was like, I don't know. I was like, Great. Again, you always do this. Then I pick out my outfit, and I'm like, This is what I'm wearing. It's waist stuff. Then I have glam. Hannah goes, I'm I'm not getting glam. I go, Hannah, it's on ABC News.

Prime time.

It's a close-up. You're getting- Of your bad side. You're getting your hair and makeup professionally done.

I don't know. Something comes over me sometimes when I'm just like, I'm going to save four hours of my life and not do glam. We sound like the Kardashian.

No, well, do you want to know what? Then don't do glam. Because sometimes when we do something, we're doing it in the moment, but it's not being released to the world for months and months. So you genuinely forget about it. And so everyone has a day where you're like, I'm so tired. I don't want to do my hair, where you're like, I'll throw it up in a bun. Except if we do that, then six months later, people are like, Can you believe that's what she wore? That stupid cunt. You're like, Holy fuck. I had a day that day.

I think I was coming home from a six-state tour of seven shows. No, you were tired. It was Monday morning, and I was like, I'd rather get three more hours of sleep and answer the questions well. But you were like my mom in that moment. You said, I don't... Look at me. I don't care. You're glammed on. You're not embarrassing the family.

The difference between you and other people is you work harder. Show it. Do it. This is not how we are.

Oh, God. That's going to air tonight, which is fun. I don't know how much they're you're going to put of us talking. I feel like you're really good with one-liners, so you should have a bunch. I might have been cut.

We still haven't gotten our wish of doing a confessional together. For how many ever years we were on reality TV and we asked every single year, Hey, we think it'd be funny if you gave us a confessional together. Who's going to give us a confessional together?

I think this podcast is our confessional together. This is what we had to do to get it. Did you hear the drama about the Michigan coach?

The one that she did on his wife with the girl that worked there and then went to her house and said he was going to burn it down, that one? I feel like there's been a lot of sports stuff happening. Then there was a coach that switched teams in the middle of the night. And I kept thinking, did that really mean the middle of the night? Is that a saying?

Okay, Stana, what are you talking about middle of the night?

Well, I feel like my TikTok sometimes, if you watch one walking video, then all of a sudden you get all these videos. So I'm getting the videos about the Michigan guy cheating on his wife. It's videos of him walking out of the tunnel with the mistress. Then I'm getting videos of another guy who changed teams in the middle of the season, and they kept being like, he changed teams in the middle of the night. And I'm like, actually, or is that a figure of speech?

He just showed up at the new team at 04: 00 AM, like you up. So, yeah, the coaches needed to get together. But it is funny. They put these coaches on a pedestal I remember even Wisconsin, the football coach, he was the God of the school, the football coach. And a lot of them are just like, horny creeps. Sorry, I said it. Sorry, I said it.

Well, yeah, it's just...

They could hook up with the girls on campus. That's surprising. Because they're powerful if they wanted to.

You know what's crazy, though, is that we ever get that women are so emotional. It's like, dude, you could have just gotten fired, gotten a divorce, gotten a new job later. Now you have to go to jail What?

Yeah, that escalated so quickly. So quickly. You could have just called your mom, talked it out, came up with a solution. We all went through a sad and return and didn't go to jail. It's possible. Do men go through Saturn returns?

Wait, when do you think mine was? I think that mine was...

What question? When do you think mine was? During the time that you were being I did a text on stage for a full year. That was your Saturn Return, babe.

I think I had had it prior to that because everyone said you had it when you were 27.

You didn't listen to your Saturn Return.

You didn't make the moves you were supposed to. I think mine was during COVID, and I was just like, Sorry, I don't have the time. And they were like, No, bitch, you're going to make the time. Oh, so you think mine was... That tour was so transformative for us, for me, specifically. But also we loved it. No, I loved it. We loved everyone. No, there's still so much coming from it. We haven't even... Even the good stuff that happened, we haven't even said yet.

I haven't even processed it.

I do have to say also, I'm very busy on my phone right now because so many people in my life have adopted cats, and you know I love sending cat memes, but I don't send the same cat memes to everyone because not every cat meme is equal. Sierra gets different ones than I get. Yes.

Sierra gets, Is your orange cat crazy? How do you speak to your cat who's naughty, and then Grace gets all the tuxedo cats, and then you get all the fluffy, beautiful cats or this esthetic cat.

My cats always have glitter. Yes, glitter cats. And smoking a cig.

I am in a K-Hole of Organizing cat memes. There's so many layers. My mom, it's about having three cats.

If you had to take just a wild guess on what a K-Hole is, can you give us just a one sentence, what you think it is?

I think it's when you take LSD and you get so high that you're just spiraling and you murder a family or something. Kind of. You pull a Michigan coach. I think he was in a K-Hole.

It's basically you take Ketamine, which is a horse tranquilizer. And then you're- Wait, wait.

Horses are just out here getting in K-Holes all the time?

Well, no, they're taking it for medical reasons. And then people take it because it obviously is more potent because we're much smaller than a freaking horse.

I love when you turn to a doctor.

Because I've watched so many people fall into a K-hole where I'm like, Are you okay?

In real life?

Yes. And so they'll take it, and then you literally can't move. Here's the thing. When I was in my 20s, after COVID, and I went out again to the bars and the clubs, I saw people doing drugs, and they were doing I was like, I must be so old in the scene because what the fuck do you mean?

What do you mean? I don't even know how you would do it. I don't want to know how you would do it.

How are you standing?

My biggest fear is doing a drug and then not being able to move while someone's talking.

That's exactly what this drug is.

Someone's talking you.

It's literally paralyzing yourself, but you're like...

Yeah, you would hate it. I always felt... That's why I would have panic attacks on weed because I would be watching myself, embarrassing myself. I'm watching other people watch me and watch myself being embarrassed. I'm like, I'm already two in my head.

Anyway, okay, what's your next K-Hole? I love that we We're redefining it. It's really your knowledge.

I did get in a brief K-Hole because I read a comment accidentally that was mean about me, and it's very unique. It made me laugh. It was one of those. Someone said, The back of my head is flatter than Kansas. I didn't know the back... You know the back of my head is none of my business. Do I have a flat back of my head?

Well, it's on the side, so I can't really see. Put your hand down it. Now go down, down, down. Does it curve on in?

I don't know, but like- Do I have a flat head? Maybe my hair was flat in the back. I don't know. A man said it, so I was like...

Wait, that is really specific.

I get the most specific random things. My knees, the back of my head, but also things that I'm like, Okay, good one.

See, I just get my character. You're an evil person.

I also wanted to let you know in the new year, I realized I am a little bit of a germaphobe with some things. There's one thing I'm a huge germaphobe about. I would never, ever buy a neck cushion from a Hudson news in an airport. Because all people do when they walk in, the first thing you do, it's the rule, you have to squeeze the neck cushion. That neck cushion has been squeezed by so many dirty little fingers You're so right. I think the toilet is cleaner.

I think I've bought so many, too. I'm so upset right now. In my lifetime. I don't have one right now currently, and I haven't used one in years. But in my lifetime, I've probably bought about seven, eight.

Yeah.

Thank you for raising awareness, though.

But you turned out okay. It could be the reason for your UTIs, though.

Wait, you know how everyone's getting sick right now? Everyone has the flu.

Yeah.

I was like, wait, I literally don't leave my house. I'm like, wow, everyone's dropping like, flies. And I'm like, I wonder why I'm not getting sick. And I'm like, oh, I haven't interacted with another person in two months.

You're literally quarantining yourself. I'm obsessed with you being in a class action lawsuit for buying airport neck cushions. Are you getting UTIs every day? And you possibly bought a neck cushion from LaGuardia.

Once I go to my urologist, gynecologist, it is over for you bitches.

No, I can't. Final thought. Leonardo DiCaprio never saw the Titanic.

I saw that with Jennifer Lawrence. Petition for Jennifer Lawrence to just be a red carpet correspondent.

For sure. Yeah, she was doing serious journalism. The Lord's work. Leonardo doesn't talk to press.

When When she said- She made fun of him dating? No, when she was with all the women, and she was like, What color does this sound like? Because what's her name said? Oh, I see color when I'm singing. And so she just goes, What color is that?

Candice and Thea Revo. Well, people forget that before Jennifer Lawrence was accused of being the most annoying person in the world, she was the most charming person in the world and very funny. But it's a thin line with women. It's a thin line.

The people tried to Anne Hathaway her. And it's not on my watch.

And you know what? If any of you guys had a bad year, just remember that Anne Hathaway and Jennifer Lawrence were stoned.

Yeah. People tried to say they were annoying.

Now they're back in action. So if they could recover from that, you can recover from whatever you went through this last year.

So true. The other side is just so much better. You got to go through some shit. You just have to buckle down and nothing good lasts and nothing bad lasts.

Oh, my God. You're so- And when people can't mess with your character, they come for your reputation.

And just remember that one. That's my 2026.

That's my 2026. I do have to say any horrible things you guys went through in 2025, I guarantee it made you funnier and more interesting at parties.

I've told that stalker story so many times.

The stalker is like, Tag me at least. Get some credit for credit, too. My stalker is like, Okay, so you are home.

Like, what? Okay, so you're obsessed with me.

You're stalking me at this point. If you say my name one more time.

This is so dark. It's so dark. They're like, Okay, I'm coming. He's on his way. So I actually have to go.

Also, they only mentioned me once in one of the letters. I was like, I'm a big part of her life.

I was like... Oh, my stalker referred to Hannah, but literally in one text. And so I'm like, screenshotting, sending to Hannah, and she's like, Was that it about me? And I'm like, Okay. I'm literally just threatened my life. And you're so It's a giddly squad.

If you're hanging out with your friends one night and one of them gets kidnapped, that's obviously horrible. But for a second, we all were like, What's wrong with me? Why was I not chosen? Okay, we need to be stopped. We Can't get me to be stopped.

Oh, God. Happy New Year. I can't wait to do our second episode. After New Year's Eve, I would assume.

After New Year's Eve next week. We're doing two episodes a week starting... Let me give you guys official so we don't have any confusion. Starting the week of January fifth, we're going two episodes a week. Every episode, nothing changes. We're just double Oreo, double stuffed.

Yeah. Fuck, yeah. Fuck, yeah. Okay.

Love you guys. Bye. Love, yeah.