Transcript of Giggling about glambots, tuning forks, and getting botched

What's up, gigglers? Gary, fix the WiFi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

I mean, the day just got away from me.

Hello, my Garganzola gigglas.

Yeah. How are you? You know, that's so funny. I just put some Gorgonzola in the refrigerator.

That is so you. She's like, I was like, It's a Gorgonzola week. We have oregano, drips, Gorgonzola. Why am I saying It's Gorgan. It's Gorgan. And also, real quick housekeeping. The day after Valentine's Day, February 15th, I'm going to be in Long Island. Strong Island, Westbury. Get tickets. I have two more months left in the tour, and then I'm retiring.

Yes, honey. I can't wait to retire.

I record this special in four weeks. It's starting...

You know, I was going to ask you that today because I was like, Wait, she's been pretty good mentally, but that's certainly got to change in a couple of weeks, right?

I wake up every day like, Is it going to hit me that I'm going to be a nervous wreck? Not today yet. Not today. I don't know. I have my gigglers. What else do you need? I have my gorgonzola. What do I need? Totally. How are you?

I'm still a little under the weather, but nothing too crazy. I did have, obviously, a facial reconstruction situation the the past couple of days, and I went into my Botox, girl, and she was like, Hey, I thought you were going to be more mad about this. And I was like, Here's the thing. My group chats, they loved it. My mom She loved it.

The content was incredible.

The content was superb, and I was really making everyone's day. The one person that did not think my Botox mishap was funny for a second was my dad.

Gary.

He called me, FaceTime me immediately up. What's this I'm hearing? That you can't move your lips. Let me look at you. Don't talk. Let me He goes, Look at you. I'm on FaceTime, I'm not speaking. He's examining my face. He goes, Okay, the good news is you don't look fucked up to me.

He goes, I don't have my reading glasses, but you look beautiful.

He goes, Now talk. Let me see. Okay, not bad. Then he goes, Everyone thinks it's so funny. I don't think this is funny, Paige. This is your face. You've got the perfect face. I'm like, Dad, this is why you're my day one. This is why you aren't going into a home when you are of age.

He's like, I made you perfectly genetically. Why would you try to change? This was the second time you did Botox, and you had a little kerfuffle. A little kerfuffle. Does Does it scare you at all? Or are you like, I have nothing to be afraid of?

I survived. Here's the thing. I really trust in my girl. I think she's extremely good at her job.

She could poke my eye out, and I'm like, She did it for a reason.

She was like, Actually, you'd look better like this. It is only the second time I've gotten it. Everyone's face is a little bit different, and so things go awry. Now, if I had gotten filler or something, I'd be freaking out. But even if she I paralyzed the whole bottom half of my face.

Which sounds peaceful.

Yeah, it sounds nice to take a little voice rest. It would be gone in two months anyway. I wasn't really freaking out. The only reason I was freaking out, I was I was like, Honey, I'm a woman in stem. I've got things coming up. I've got places to be. People are going to be looking at my face.

You're playing in the Super Bowl. Things are happening.

No, I literally am suited up for the game.

I hate when people are like, We can't tell you what's happening when there's stuff going on. But basically, Paige and I were shooting something yesterday. That was very fun. But we spent a lot of time together yesterday.

We had a proper time.

We were obsessed with each other for the last 24 hours.

We were together from 11: 00 AM, really 10: 30, till 6: 00 PM.

You FaceTime me the night before for a full hour, and afterwards, I was like, This could have been a podcast.

And once you do hit a flow state with your friend, it's actually really hard to stop.

Because you have to beat it. You have to beat the last piece of gossip. You have to start making up shit. I don't even have strong opinions on things, and I'm like, You know what I think?

Hannah and I had this song. We were like, Wait, are we going to be 80 and talk about the same? Obviously, I feel like there's a canon event in our friendship that no matter what, we go back to that moment. It could be a completely separate conversation. I'm just wondering, at 75, am I going to be like, well, you know?

A hundred %. Now, this is also... People have told me this is how I am. I have a little amnesia because I love telling stories, and people I'll tell a full story. They're like, You literally just told me that. But you enable me where you know how much fun I have beating a dead horse from different sides and angles.

You break a bat, you pick up another one, and you keep going.

Sorry, Pita. See, my husband, he's like, I'm not talking about this with you again. You, you look at me like you've never even heard this subject before. You say, Wait, wait, what? Wait, what? You said you get some popcorn, you go, What is this? What is this thing that we've been talking about?

So I appreciate you for that. No, I'm a great friend to have because I forget. And I'm like, Wait, I don't remember that. Can you I truly do forget so many things. So it's like you're telling it to me for the first time, and I'm like, Wow.

News update. Altoid Sours are back, and that's our mental health moment. If you're having If you have a panic attack or whatever, the girls, what do they call it nowadays? Crashing out? If you're having a crash attack, take an Altoid Sour, and it can help.

I have heard that that helps.

But don't do it and then it don't work. And blame me. Talk to a doctor if you're having a lot of panic attacks. Wait.

Speaking of things that help panic attacks, to my dismay, I talked about buying tuning forks on the last episode of Giggly Squad, and I was like, everyone's going to be in my DMs and be like, what the hell is a tuning fork? No one. No one even asked the thing. They're like, she's definitely lost it. No one even wanted to broach That's the subject. You know what? We're going to just leave it.

Yeah, because it sounds like you're trying to bring back the dead.

And then I'm like, Wait a minute. So not one giggler's on my side of TikTok with the goddamn tuning forks? And I was like, No dead? I'm always and consistently looking for things that will lower my cortisol levels and heal my body in some type of way that I don't know that it's unhealed.

Is the vibrational plate working?

Hannah, the vibrational plate was so three months ago.

But you know me, I'm finally getting around to it. I'm like, Okay, I've seen it for two years.

No, I mean, obviously, I still have it, and I do it every once in a while. I was on a really good regimen. But honestly, it's like, How many things can I do? But I love doing all of them. Okay, my tuning forks is basically like- No one asked. That's what I'm fucking telling you guys. I'm actually in. Is it a weapon? I mean, it probably could be. So it could double for women. But you basically hit this thing, and then the vibration and the sound is... It's like the conspiracy theory that the government got rid of all the bells because massive bells in towns would heal the inside of people's bodies because of the vibration. You're not on that conspiracy. You've never seen that conspiracy theory?

No, I'm not on conspiracy TikTok. Me too.

You go, You know the Bell Conspiracy. I'm I'm like, Surely you know about the Bell.

Where'd all the Bells go?

We don't know. No, there's this big conspiracy theory that there used to be Bells that would tell everyone what time it was, because obviously we didn't have phones and shit like that in every town. Then slowly, they became obsolete or whatever, and they took them away. But they were saying that they were very healing for your body and that they should have never been taken away. I wonder if whoever Whoever was in charge of the Bells, they're running late one day and they're like, Don't worry, I fucking run the Bells.

Okay, we're good.

It's like a guy impressing a girl on a date. He's like, How about everybody wakes up an hour late tomorrow? I have that power. I do the Bells. That's all I would do. But I love that.

I am obsessed, though, with instead of you going to some yoga wellness retreat, you're trying to create one in your own Totally. But with no actual guidance.

You are onto something because the minute I hear someone has to come stay at my apartment or they're doing a little a stint in New York and my room is where they've I was in to stay, I really do try and make it seem like a spa experience. You have a Daphné robe in your bathroom. You've got candles. You have a welcome bag of like, Did you forget moisturizer? Don't worry. Here's some. And it's all yours. Take it with you on your way out.

Because Kim DeSorbo raised you right.

And I'm just I'm very big on that, and then I'm like, I'm a cult curator.

Yeah. You also have a little Kinder Bueno by the side of- You must have a small chocolate before you lay your head down. Can we discuss when you went into my apartment yesterday?

I'm proud of you for even bringing this up on the pod.

I have nothing to hide. I'm an open wunt.

I was meeting Hannah yesterday, and we were early, and so I was like, I'll just stop by your apartment. We'll have a quick coffee together, and then we'll go and do what we have to do. And I walked into her apartment, and I literally thought she had been robbed. I was like, someone's come here and open all your cabinets. Why did someone walk in and just leave your cabinets open? I really felt like I'd walked into a fraternity room.

I'm like, Hannah- You actually use the the word disaster. That was the first word that came out of your mouth.

This place is scary.

Now, my perspective. I woke up, I said, Okay, the apartment looks good, but let's tidy up just a little more because Paige is coming. And I'm putting stuff away. I'm like, Oh, my God. She's good.

And you said that to me, too. You said, I actually tidied.

This is the same thing that happens with my mom. I will tidy up for 30 minutes, and she comes in, and she's like, This is disgusting. I'm like, If only you saw it 30 minutes ago.

Because you want to know what? You You tidy what's important to you. I don't need all the hot sauces in a straight line in the refrigerator. That does nothing for me. That's the things you tidy. I'm like, Oh, God. Simultaneously, though, simultaneously, Des had to go to my apartment quickly for something, and he called Hannah after him. What did he say, Hannah?

He said, You know, Paige is extremely tidy. And I said, Yes, she's Italian. And he said, So are you? I said, Let's not change It's a subject.

I give them a complimentary gift basket on the way out. To tell your friends.

If you were a man and you slept with women, you would definitely give them a gift basket. I'd be so controlling. You'd give them a gift basket when they left.

I'd be so I'd be awful as a man. I'd be so manipulative because as a woman- Or maybe you wouldn't be because you wouldn't have to manipulate because you're a man. As a woman, I use my manipulation tactics for good. I better people's lives.

It's a coping mechanism to manipulate because God forbid, you just say what you want and you're a bitch.

No, you can't say what you want as a woman.

That would be crazy. Where men will say what they want and people are like- I have to disguise it. You have to do a spell.

I planted things in men's head that they haven't realized for a full year. And then one day they're like... And that's the power of page. It's really scary. It's the tuning fork. If I had chosen an evil route, it would be scary.

There was a tuning fork in the road, and you chose good over evil.

I was one decision away from being evil. It was one more man that fucked me over. I would have gone in a crazy different route.

But I also argue in someone's story, you are evil.

A lot of people. I'd say a lot of people's story. No, you know what's so funny about even saying that is like, yeah, obviously in the world, there are people out there that are like, I fucking hate Paige or like, I fucking hate Hannah.

Don't bring me into this. No.

And I'm saying this for the gigglers, too. Obviously, there's people at your office or in your town that's like- In their place of work. Sorry. They're all over. You have to be aware. Stay alert. No, I sound like the dance mom saying, You're blonde, you're pretty. You're saying nobody hates you? Open your eyes. No, look at Hannah. There's definitely people that are going to hate you. My My response always is, and this is how... I mean, you can say this verbally to people, but this is how you have to think about it. Yeah, no shit I'm going to be the villain in other people's stories. Not everyone gets the same version of me at all. And it goes according on how you treat me. I go based off your energy.

I do have to say one thing about me and you. We never started. Oh, no. We're not starters. We're not starters.

No, no, no. I We haven't started anything in years.

We're not proactive.

We're just reactive.

We are purely reactive. Mental health moment continuing. What I've realized in my 30s is, yes, you can be a villain in other people's stories. But also there are multiple truths to a story, which in my past, I've definitely been like, I was there. I know what happened. That's my truth. But then you have to empathize and be like, Yeah, but they're seeing it through their experience, and you have to respect their truth, even though it's wrong.

And then- Big emphasis on that, though.

Big emphasis. Then also when people used to tell me in my 20s and early 30s, not to take things personally, and that never fucking made sense, I'd always be like, Okay, then why did they say my name? Okay, then why did they say it to my face? Okay, why did they say everything about me to my face and make it about me?

Okay, but why did they say it was personal?

Yeah, why did they say my Social Security number? And then I realized as nothing's personal. They're just seeing... They're just reflecting their shit onto you. You're just a representation in their video game of their solo player. It's not about you.

You're You're just- It's not about you, babe.

It's not about you. And that brings you sanity when you think people actually... You just represent something to them.

It's not actually you. Well, one of the best ways I feel to learn that, too, is Someone said something to me. I don't even know who it was. And this is years ago, and they were just like, Oh, well, you and your brother didn't have the same experience growing up because... And I was just like, Well, no. Yeah, we did. We had the same parents. He was there. We were there. The person was like, Well, no. His experience was obviously different. Your parents were a different age when they had him. They didn't treat him the same. I was like, What? What do you mean? That's so true. And once I feel like you grasp that, it's easier to bring it into your friendship.

When something was personal with me, and someone would say, Don't take it personally, I literally was like, I don't comprehend that because I don't attack people personally unless they attack me personally.

Unless they deserve it.

Unless they deserve it. Also, I was really laughing about you talking about how you had a horrible flu and men would go to the hospital and you had a full week of work.

It really reminded me of-Literally one of my busiest weeks of work, I feel like.

You've never gotten more done. It truly reminded me of Lindsay Vawn, who By the way, the thing with professional athletes, and Shaq talks about it, too. Men talk about it. They get these huge contracts, and then they sprain their ankle, and they're just on the bench getting paid millions of with a sore knee. Anyway, Lindsay Vawn decides, I'm going to fucking come back and win gold. She's in all the pre-Olympic tournaments, and she's winning everything. She's 41, and everyone's like, This is insane. Lindsay Vaughn is the Grace of all time. Of course, the universe doesn't want to make it easy for her, and she completely ruptures her ACL. I see this notification because we're a sports podcast. I have to stay updated on current sports events. And I was like, Holy fuck, she's done. I feel terrible for her. Next article. Lindsay Vons still going to Olympics skiing with a torn ACL. She said, Fuck that ACL.

Put a cast on it. Fuck do I care?

She goes, Give me a bandaid. Let's go. So apparently there are other ligaments in your leg, but the ACL connects your shin and your thigh or something.

Her leg is dangling. She's holding her leg off. As someone who did a project on the ACL in seventh grade. She's fucked.

Her leg is fighting for its life, literally. Lindsay Van is not just walking with a torn ACL. She's going 100 miles per hour down an icy hill and jumping and landing and twisting.

When I saw the headline, and not to make it about me, but hey, it was inside my own brain, so what was I supposed to do? The only thing I could think of was the other day on Giggly Squad, you literally said you've never run a You've never done an athletic thing in your life. And this woman was literally put a bandaid on it, you stupid bitch.

She literally looked at the New York Times and said, It's mental.

Wait, do you want to know the funniest thing about that is peak during my colds that I've had, I'm on FaceTime with my parents, and my dad goes, Honestly, it's mental. My mom has never whipped her head faster. Oh, really? Was it mental? Two weeks? I was like, I just walked into something that I'm not privy to, and I actually have to go.

Wait, that's so funny when your parents get into random little tips, and when you live with them, when you're younger, You're a part of it. You've seen every scene up until that point, so you know. But when you're just FaceTime, you're like, Whoa, I need to hear both of the backgrounds before I pick sides.

It's crazy. There is something that happens when you get into your 30s where you're like, I have to have my mom's back back against these men all these years. She's been literally surviving on her own. Then when your mom has your back on something that's very adult, female-focused, you're like, Say it louder, mom. Say it louder. That's where me and my mom are at right now. We're just ruining my dad and my brother's lives at all times. We stay on their necks. That's the only way I can describe it.

See, what's funny is my brother always takes me on my mom's side, and my dad's always just like, accepts. Because he's smart. My dad accepts that he's not going to win. So it actually is a very high functioning situation.

No, I think my brother is probably so disassociated because if he does something and then it's back to back call from me or my mom, dreaming him out about something. I could see someone going into a full psychosis. That is so scary.

He finishes Kim and then he sees you coming.

What does he... How does he recover? I think back to boyfriends, and I didn't even I didn't really fully grasp how diabolical my mom could be until I got older. I was like, I can't believe she said that to someone in our home that I was sleeping with.

That is crazy.

But now I think back and I'm like, Good. You know what? Actually, go harder.

Bringing back Nana, which, by the way, she's become famous on stage. Now on my shows, everyone's like, Justice for Nana. People People are riding for Nana.

You know what? I was thinking about Nana, too, and I have something to say after this.

Well, all I was going to say is, what's cool about Nana is she has grown and learned so much in her life, and She's Italian Catholic, grew up, as we know, in a tough situation in Brooklyn.

In a ditch somewhere.

No heating, no water. Nana was religious, and I was 18, and they were visiting, and my boyfriend was staying over. And she was like, Where is he sleeping? My mom was in her bed.

Wait, how old were you?

Eighteen. Okay. But I also was different than you. As we know, your mom was like, Please don't get a fucking tongue piercing tonight. My mom was like, Hey, do you want to maybe go to a party and see what happens? And I'm like, No, mom, I'm trying to be a professional tennis player.

Lenore was my dream. Like, Yeah, maybe I'll give it a try.

She literally looked at Nana and was like, Hannah got a boyfriend. We're very happy.

My parents were like, Did you sneak out? I'm like, No, why would I do that? When this house is so free, I could go and come as I please. Why would I sneak out?

Kim is like, Why couldn't Paige have met a nice girl like Hannah in high school? She would have kept her inside. They would have stayed inside and talks about the same subjects over and over again.

No, my friends were really bad influences. Yeah.

I had... I guess, yeah, my friends were all sporty and scared of cocaine, too. But anyway, my Nana, at first, she was upset. At first, my Nana was upset, but then she was like, Oh, I guess that's what the kids are doing these days. And she immediately was non-judgmental, happy. She learned... Also, I don't think we're having sex.

We were- Well, do you ever see videos of people that come out, but their grandparents or parents are of such a different generation, and they're so nervous, and the grandparents are like, It's fine. I don't care.

Some of these old people, they're learning and growing and seeing things. And Nana, very early on, immediately was like... But she's in the know. She's been in the know.

Yeah, she's like, hip in with it.

Well, Uncle Johnny, famously, came out as gay, and they were afraid of-Your uncle Johnny.

I feel like you have to give context.

My Everyone has a gay uncle Johnny. When I said, Uncle Johnny came out as gay, everyone listening was like, yes. You don't have a gay uncle Johnny.

It's a funny running bit in my family that I just realized. If you say any time in my household, I think they might be gay, anyone at any time will say, Well, don't tell Paige. She thinks everyone's gay.

That's what my family says about me. And I said, Well...

And I'm like, And where's the lie?

Where's the lie? No one's proven me wrong.

No, not a single person.

Just every day the world gets gayer. Thank God. It's not becoming un-gay. Thank God. Thank God. Hi, gigglers. Okay, this is a debate, a hot debate happening online. Do you think sports bras or sports tank tops, or tank tops in general, should have padding sewn in, or should they have a place to take out the padding?

I'm so glad you're asking me as President of the small boob community.

Let me just tell you the general argument. Some people online are saying, I hate that it falls out. It's like, why even have an opening? And then they're all over the place. And then some people are like, I don't always want them in, so I don't want them sewn in.

I think the padding... Look, as someone who has literally zero boobs, if I put a sports bra on that's a size too small, it is so tight and I look like a flat board. I enjoy having a little padding because I'm like, Oh, at least it gives a little curvature. But if I had larger boobs, I could so see how you're like, I don't need any more padding. I want to take this out. I think you should have the option to take it out and put it back in. The same with bathing suits.

For the first time ever in the history of Giggly Squad, I I agree with you. I agree with you 100%. All your points are so valid because I, as you know, have a perfect sea cup.

You have a perfect rack.

Perfect rack that no one talks about because I don't talk about it. Because I don't want people to get uncomfortable and treat me differently.

We're not objectifying.

Yeah. But when I have a padded bra, I suddenly feel like I have boobs, and you know I don't want to have boobs.

I'm over here buying the skin's nipple bra every chance I get.

We're going to the fucking library. I also think When I wear... I feel like I'm wearing Victoria's Secret push-up bras whenever I have anything with padding on. And I think everyone's staring at my boobs, and I think if someone punched me in the boob, I wouldn't feel it. Do you remember those push-up bras?

I was just going to say a bombshell. When those first came out, I was like...

That was a football uniform. I could tackle a motherfucker.

I missed that era of me. Like an Abercrombie shirt and a Victoria's Secret pink push-up bra that I like, begged my mom to get.

Yeah, that was like 8 inches of padding, and it was like up to your chin.

I was just going to say something now I forget.

Wait, with the Victoria's Secret bra, too, what was I going to say?

Why did we just get so dumb at the same minute? I literally feel like I just passed out and came to, and I'm like, What are you talking about? I feel like I'm high, but I'm not.

It's just the morning. It's 1: 30 PM.

Wait, are you ever with your friend and you truly have talked about anything. And so then you're like, So I guess that's what's going on.

Well, me and you are weird because we will talk over each other for 20 minutes straight and then be silent on our phones for 10 minutes, but not have any transition. No one's like, I'm going to go look at my phone now. It's like suddenly it's just... Actually, literally yesterday, I called you fully Sheena Shay because I was mid-conversation, and suddenly right here. And I'm like, Okay, Vannerpump Rules Season 2.

It's my favorite thing when you call me Sheena, when I'm on my phone, because I love it so much. I think it's so funny. No, I love the sound of my nails on.

People don't talk enough about being a Vannerpump Rules fan and one day being in an elevator with Sheena Shay and watching her text and hearing it and just feeling like you're watching Michelangelo paint whatever he painted.

Sheena Shay was the first Bravo Leopardy to be nice to me, I feel like, and want me to come on her podcast. She was the first- She was the first one to be nice to us.

Celebrity podcast I did. She was continually nice to us through the ups and downs. Yes. Yes. She was consistent. She was consistent.

Say what you want about Sheena Shay here at Giggly Squad. We respect her and we think that she's- She brought me to her green room when she was on Watch Robbins Live, and I was like, Oh my God.

I watched her get glam.

Wait, that is so sweet.

It was... Yeah, she's iconic. I would bring up the Grammys, but does anyone care anymore? Is it two years ago? Do you have any hot takes?

You know?

Did you watch them?

You know? The Grammys is one award show that I never care about. I don't know why.

Well, you hate music. You've fully publicly stated it's your arch nemesis.

No, I don't hate- No, I don't hate- Yes, you do.

You hate musicals. You hate music. You hate children laughing.

Well, I hate children laughing. No, I hate musicals. I love music. When I'm home by myself, I'm putting a TV show on. So I don't have the same relationship with music during the day that other people do because I love the entertainment in the arts of- Yes. Scripting. Scripting, yeah. Telling a story in that sense.

Storytelling.

Here's Here's what I will say. I'm so fucking excited for Bad Bunny to do the halftime performance. When I did see the clip of him winning, I thought it was just so sweet. You want to know what? I feel the same way about Bad Bunny that I do about Fernando. They have such-Who's Fernando? Fernando, my football player. Come on, first name basis. Fernando. Isn't that his name? Who's Fernando? Fernando, who's I've won that Miami game that I'm obsessed with.

Oh, sorry. I was... You're on college football right now.

You have to keep up.

Okay, sorry. Continue. I thought you got another cat or something. I was like, Who's Fernando?

You know Who Fernando is, and stuff.

I don't think you know? Okay, Fern, yes. Fernie.

I feel the same way about them because there's something so pure about their reactions to themselves doing a good job. Do you know what I mean?

He's authentically happy. They're showing photos of him when he was 16, bagging groceries and to see people's dreams come alive. Also for him to remind people that Puerto Rico is in America.

No.

Let's just- I'm so confused by that. There was a lot of confusion. There is a lot of confusion.

Look, I don't classify myself as smarter than anyone. I know my strengths and I know my weaknesses. But when I saw that, people being like, Where's Puerto Rico? I was like, Surely I'm not the smartest one on the Internet right now. That's really scary.

Well, you're for sure not the dumbest one on the Internet, and that's been proven. I don't want to get into the drama because you know we hate drama.

But tell me everything.

Cole, the Glambot guy. Where is he? What did they do with him? No one unseated. He couldn't have nowhere to be found.

And then I thought he invented the Glambot. I'm like, How are you getting rid of the inventer?

It was Cole and the Glambot. I didn't even know you could get the Glambot without Cole.

Wait, let's start this story from the beginning.

Okay, apparently, there's an email going around from 2019. Now, whenever this stuff happens, it makes me feel like it's a hit.

It's like a- Someone is sitting on it.

Someone was coming for him for some reason. I don't know why.

That's why you have to have a private investigator on call at certain times.

I guess a bride asked him, Can I do a glam art at my wedding? Which is totally valid.

Iconic.

Iconic. Good for her. Woman of the Arts. I guess he was like, You can't afford me. Or he gave her an insane number, which honestly, you're running your business. I know people who are super busy and someone will ask her to do something and she'll be like, Yeah, for a crazy amount.

Well, it's like hairstylist and makeup artist. Yes, that's what I was thinking. Maybe they start out doing weddings, but then they start doing other things and things that pay that aren't as time-consuming, whatever, and you just you grow your business. If you were a celebrity hair stylist and some random person was like, Do my weddings, And they'd be like, Okay, for 200K. Something crazy.

I actually didn't even see the email, but this is what I think I heard online. So take it all with a grain of salt. But I didn't know it became a thing.

I thought it was going to be about JLo.

The Glambot is a humiliation ritual. It never goes well. I asked you, you said you did it once. Was it scary?

Literally terrifying because you freeze up because you're like, I need every angle of me to look good. And then you look frozen.

And then it's like a mosquito coming at you.

Select few people that are really good at it, though.

But I feel like they've done it multiple times. They know what to expect. Also, under pressure, I'll crack doing anything. Tell me to say my name and I'll say it wrong. So I can't imagine. And then also, you not only have to have your face right, you have to have your teeth right and your hair right, and you're holding in your fucking stomach and your boobs in the right place.

Yeah, you have to be in a dress that's conducive to twirling.

Does he tell you what to do?

Yes. He's so nice.

Directing.

He's basically like, This is what's going to happen. You're going to do this, and we can do it again if you don't like it, and you look amazing. He's a very nice person. So basically, his email starts He's getting circulated from 2019.

And then I guess he's not at the Grammys, and this is where it gets real spicy. People are saying now that a woman was behind the camera and that everyone's glam bot was better than his Grammys. And I said, You know what? That tracks. A straight man should never be involved with photography.

Wait.

No straight man should ever be behind a camera. We've all seen what happens. They're moving, they're talking, they don't understand angles. Maybe someone was like, This guy doesn't support women.

I feel like there aren't many positions where women have, and they've replaced them with men, and it's gone better. But there are so many positions that men have had that they've been replaced with women.

There's so many things that is obvious women will be better at, or at least they tell women, even cooking. But men are the chefs.

Yeah.

Make that make sense. News anchors. Who's good at gossiping? Us. Why is a man telling me what happened in the world?

Right. They don't get a single detail.

And then a photographer? It's always a fucking photographer man with shooting models and stuff. And if you're a famous male photographer, yes, I'll shoot with you. However, that's bonkers. I want a woman behind the lens who's going to be like, Move your hair.

I would never do a sexy photoshoot with a guy.

On some of these sets that are more male gazey, playboy and stuff, there's men involved because they're like, What do you guys think looks good? Because a gay guy thinking something looks good is very different than a man thinking it looks good.

Something that's being sold to men, yeah, I'm going to get that.

It's just a bunch of dudes being like, Yeah, it's hot.

But if it's being sold to women, no. Why would I want a guy there? What does he know?

No. It's with the Real Housewives When the husbands get involved, it's like, Okay, sit down.

That's it.

The Grammys I loved. I hope Cole is okay not being held hostage somewhere. No one said anything about him. Real quick, the guy who sang Ordinary.

And he performed We've done Jimmy Fallon one day when we were there.

He was there? Yeah. He had some trouble with his ear things, and TikTok was funny. They're like, Considering the ear things have one job to do, they never work. Can no one invent an ear thing that works?

Oh, he couldn't He couldn't hear himself when he was performing.

He couldn't hear himself. For a short part of the song, he was singing at the wrong time. The beat was very off, but then he recovered really well. Then afterwards, he posted a TikTok being like, Guys, this is what I was hearing, and it sounded like crazy echoes. But he did great.

I think my best dress was Olivia Deane. I don't know why I never... I think because the Grammys is you can do really whatever you You can wear whatever you want to the Grammys because I feel like it's... Musicians are like...

But they weren't as insane as the VMAs. You know the VMAs? They do get... Because the musicians are more like artists.

Yes. Where I think I like the Oscars and the SAG and Golden Globes because it's a black-tie dress code. Yes. I want to see what you came up for black-tie dress code.

Justin Bieber, people were agasped that he wore boxers. I thought that was very on brand for Justin Bieber. If he didn't- Everyone's always agaced at what him and Haley are doing.

I'm so over it. I'm so over people hating on him and Haley. How about when she looked in the camera and she went like that.

She does have you fingers. She has long fingers like you.

She has royalty fingers.

She has royalty fingers. Well, she famously went on TikTok one day and was just like, I don't say anything. I don't do anything. And you guys see all of me every I don't know what to do.

People are so insane to her. It's so fucking weird.

But not to be dramatic. I got teared up when he was singing because I hate when people are misunderstood, and I hate when people lose themselves.

You hate when people are misunderstood.

I hate when there's injustice. I hate when people are on the wrong path.

You hate when things are point blank, period, unfair.

That is my trigger. It enrages you. I hate when things are unfair. I feel like he blew up. Because he was so fucking talented, he was like, eyes closed, four years old, playing the drums, singing perfect pitch, whatever, bullshit. Then he becomes the biggest person in the world, and everyone starts making fun of him. Then he's singing, and everyone's like, Did you guys know Justin Bieber could sing? Yeah. It's not fucking luck that he He became one of the greatest singers of his generation, and every girl in the world was obsessed with him. It's not just because he had a weird haircut. Anyway, it was just beautiful to see him come out of it all.

No, I think he has a really crazy story that is so not even scratch of the surface told. I think he's such a talented person. His documentary, when we're in our '60s, is going to be so fucking banging, and his son is probably going to produce it. I can't wait for it.

But I do have to say award shows are insane. Sabrina Carpenter didn't win anything, and she's literally just the most relevant artist of this year. That's not controversial. That's so crazy. She got nominated for six or eight things and just sat there and lost every single award. It made me realize they only give the best new artist award to so so many people. If you happen to be in a really good year, you won't get it. And how in the year 2000, Christina Aguilera won, and Britney Spears lost her. So Britney Spears was in the year 2000 being like, I'm a fucking loser. And it's like, Sabrina, I just need to let you know these awards don't mean shit. You're perfect. Keep going.

I feel like they take them with a grain of salt. No?

No, that's all your industry is, is these stupid fucking awards. That's Yeah, that's true. I think some people are probably better at being like, It's stupid. Well, to everyone who's a creative listening, which is all the gigglers, women of the arts and the gigglers, someone gave me good advice one day, and they said, The second you let other people's opinions affect your creativity is when they win. So the second you're like, I'm not going to post this, or I'm not going to write this, I'm not going to express myself because I'm afraid of other things, then they win. Also, Further, Fucking, More. I'm on a mental health kick this morning.

We haven't said, Further, Fucking, More in a minute.

In a minute. It was needed.

Yeah, that hit.

You're welcome. Thank you. A moment for Further, Fucking, More. Is that it's your decision on how to react to things. So this is not relatable at all, but losing a Grammy, you could literally make that ruin your year and be like, Everyone thinks I'm a loser. I lost a Grammy. Or you literally can choose to be like, I don't give a fuck about this. And that's what life is about. And it's It seems like you're cheating or it seems like you're suppressing things. But no, it's actually like two things can happen to the same person. The same thing can happen to two people, and it's just how they relate to it that makes people either successful or stuck in their head.

You can also apply that to when you have rage.

You go, And let me speak from the angry portion of the night. Oh, my God. I forget that you have- If we were doing devil I'm the devil's advocate, Hannah is the angel, now I'm the devil.

Let me speak from that side.

You're going, If you have a short little temper.

I think people don't realize that I do have one of the craziest tempers.

But you don't let it out a lot. No, no, no. Not with me.

She goes, I say it for people I love. No, because I'm never mad when I'm around you and you've never done a single thing for me to be like, I fucking hate that. I have to freak out. Yeah, you're my joy. You're my peace.

But I've seen you very worked up about things, which actually I love.

Actually, last night when we left each other, I wanted to call you last night because I was just like, Oh, my God. We had so much fun laughing all day. I just want to laugh a little bit more.

But were you like, Oh, I called her the night before, and she's going to be like, Wow, this girl is like- Well, I was just like, No, what are we going to talk about?

We've literally talked about everything. I have to go to bed.

Wait, that's so sweet of you. I love I have Chapel Roan's dress. Oh, Mrs. Fake Nipples doesn't like a nipple dress? That's what I want to see, though. That's the creativity I want to see on the carpet.

Look, you know how I feel about Gen Z. We're very tumultuous. We have certain things that I'm just like, I don't fucking vibe with you guys. And then there are other things where I'm like, Gen Z, you got this, girl. Yes, we're behind you. Hopefully, no one stepped on it. I mean, what was she going to do if there was just a a jam up on the red carpet and someone accidentally stepped on it. Obviously, it was a prosthetic.

If someone stepped on it, that's called viral, baby. It's called content.

I don't know. My whole thing is like, You have anxiety.

Well, this is why I'm obsessed with Chapel Rome, because the interview before, she looks at the woman and the woman's like, Are you okay? And she's like, This is the scariest part of the night because everyone is taking photos of you and you don't know where the photos are going to go. Mind you, she has a cape on still, and she's like, I'm just scared. I'm walking looking at her. I'm like, Poor thing. I hope she just goes inside and gets to sit down and eat something and everyone's nice to her. And then two seconds later, she's on the carpet, whip those Titas out.

She's like, Here's my hard nipple. Don't look at it.

She's like, And if anyone raises their voice. She's testing them. Yeah.

I feel as though I'm in a pickle here.

You know what she is? She's like a cat when and the cat lies on its back and you're like, Your belly's so cute. Can I touch it? And the cat's like, Yeah, touch it. See what happens. See what happens. And they're like, Well, why would you show it to me if you- She's like, Say one thing about my nipple draps.

I freaking dare you. I actually, I want you to. That's why I wore it.

And then she announced her award, and she was like, clearly didn't want to be there.

I've had a dream like that where I'm like, and I forgot my shirt. My nipples are out. And I'm just acting casually. I'm like, Nothing's going on here. Her red carpet was my worst nightmare. You forgot your shirt.

I think I liked it, too, because she's a lesbian. She's showing her boobs not for the male gaze. That is so true. Some people are like, It's not for the male gaze. I'm like, whatever it is. But hers was actually a dress showing your topless. You know the men were like, huh? Which I loved.

Because it was a ring hanging from it.

Yeah, the guys were confused and uncomfortable.

Okay, but that's a perfect example of...

If men are confused and uncomfortable, that means it's art.

But also it's a perfect example of that is a different type of fashion vibe where I'm like, okay, I can't compare that look to when Zendaya walks on the carpet for the Oscars. That is a moment in my soul that it's very different.

Should I get short bang?

No.

Okay. I just wanted to throw out there. Wait, can I show you?

Is everything at home at...

Okay. No, I'm about to shoot my special. You know I'm freaking out.

What are you doing? It looks so bad. What are you doing?

There was the one girl who worked at the Supreme store who didn't bully me, and she had these little- And they were to hear. She was so cool.

No. They've put in the time and the effort to deserve those bags. They've seen some shit. They're not for you. Okay?

Oh, my God. If I go to the salon, they'll be like- I could see you with a wispy bang, though, that ends here, and then your first layer starts here, and you just go down. I'll see.

I'm putting in that out there. One thing at a time.

Speaking of art, do you know that Kid Cuddy is currently painting? He's become a painter, and he goes by the name Scottie Ramone. And now I know what I want for my future.

You want to become an artist?

I'm going to be a painter. It goes by a different name.

Speaking Speaking of art, I finished my book.

How does it feel to finish your first book?

It feels really good, and I ordered another one.

Well, do you want to tell them what you're reading? Or you're scared to start a book club?

No, I'm literally scared. Like I said, I wouldn't do this. This is a book club now. I just started it. If I say the name of what I'm reading, it's like, This is a book club. Okay, I read Verdi because- It's Italian.

She read the menu to an Italian restaurant.

You actually don't know how funny that is because in Italy, one of our favorite restaurants, the name of it is La Verde. Sometimes those menus are big, and you're like, certainly, you can't be doing all this correct. All of this is good.

When we were on reality TV, we went to a restaurant once and people took photos and we all were looking at the menu and someone was like, They're reading scripts off these menus.

I remember that.

I was I was.

Okay, I read Verdi, which Anne Hathaway is going to be in the movie. That's why I read it because I was like, Oh, I want to see that movie. And then the book I ordered, it's called Nightingale. And I literally just went on TikTok and watched a bunch of videos of girls who were like, these are my top five favorite books.

Are you on Book Talk?

I'd like, search for it. It doesn't automatically get filtered to me.

It has been caught up. No matter how much you search, the algorithm's It doesn't make sense.

Big tag's like, Really, babe? Who are we impressed? Who's sitting next to you that you're trying to show your phone to?

I feel like you're really good at choosing inspiration for what girls to follow. If I see an influencer that you follow, I'm like, Oh, okay, she's legit. It's a little bit... How do you decide which book influencer is?

I judge it by its cover.

What are you looking for?

By its... Pretty. I wanted to look cool when I bring it on the plane. I wanted to... I'm a hardcover bitch or nothing. Hardcover, honey.

No. I always take the sleeve off because I don't want anyone to talk to me about it.

See, I want someone to do that because I just want to feel like no one's ever said that to me. So I'm just like, I want my first book convo to happen.

I also feel like books are intimate. I don't want people knowing what I'm thinking about. I also feel like I'd read crazy books.

My mom reads so much. And so I said to her, I finished my book and I ordered another one. And I heard my dad in the background go, she's really rounded a corner. We've lost her. Because my personality is more my dad, but sometimes I'll pull something out that's so Kim.

Let me just say to Gary, there was a time where he used to go to bed and pray that you could read. So let's...

And we have to look at the bright side of things. You're so grateful.

I'm really proud I'm really, really proud of you. Final thought about Gen Z. They love disappearing text.

I love disappearing text.

Now-how do you do it?

I don't send them. I love receiving them. Because if I'm going to say something, I'm like, And show them. And I hope they go through your phone and see it.

Can you not screenshot it? Or is it like when people search it, it won't come up? What's the point of a disappearing text?

Well, one, you can't screenshot it. And two-Oh, you're like, We've tried. Yeah, when you can't... I mean, you can undo it and I think screenshot it. It's really more for if someone's next to... But I have a screen on my thing, so you can't even see my phone.

All I know is all my Genzy friends, my tons of little Genzy girlies, they can't send me a normal text. Everything's disappearing. I'm like, Babe, why do I have to work to read this text? But it does make it exciting.

We're on plane so much, and I'm like, I don't know you. Don't look at my fucking phone. Only because I know I'm looking at someone's phone. So I know my own trick, so I'm like, Don't look at my phone. So secret's safe with me. But when I'm gossiping, I have one particular friend that I am thinking of that she will only send me invisible text messages because she's like, I don't know who's around.

But it's also part of me is like, Do you not trust me? When I send someone juicy gossip, I trust them with it. I trust that they'll protect it. I might be like, Hey, if you listen to this voice note...

She doesn't trust the environment ever. Got it.

It's not you. It's the environment.

My assistant will go on my phone or I'll hand over my phone and be like, put your number. There are just certain things where I'm like, Is that information ever leaked?

Yeah. I wonder if boys use disappearing text or if it's just a girl thing. I feel like it's a girl thing because we are the FBI. Men wouldn't do it. I don't know how to do it.

Boys can't even read. I don't even know if they... Actually, that's such a lie because It's actually such a lie because in my grown up years of 30, first of all, not all my friends are friends with each other. So if we threw them in a weird group chat, it'd be like, Hello, I have a job. The amount I have men, and I think pretty much every man I've ever dated, their group chat all day. All day.

Yeah, but nothing juicy. Just sending bad memes.

And I'm like, Wait, this is honestly very...

Male loneless epidemic. Where?

Wait, well, it's just more like, this is actually a very girly thing of you guys to do, but I'm thankful that you're doing it because who else do you talk to? But it's never of anything of importance. It's like, I took a shit today. You could have heard that on Giggly Squad. But I'm fascinated by the male group chat.

Yeah, we're going to do some research. Actually, Gigglers, can you keep an eye on a man's group chat near you and tell us what they're talking about? This has become a full on investigation. We just want to keep tabs on it just in case. Get ahead of it. Gigglers, we love you so, so much. Thank you for all the great feedback of the two episodes.

No, it's been so fun. We're having too much fun. We just scheduled our first guest for one of our Friday episodes that we're very excited about.

Yes. Also, DM us if there's any random fun people you guys want us to have on for a segment or just Chatty Cathy. Let us know. We love you guys so much. Thanks for giddling. Bye.