Transcript of Giggling about butt pads, lawyers, and lisps

What's up, gigglers?

Gary, fix your WiFi.

Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

I mean, the day just got away from me.

Hello, my glittering gigglers.

Hello, Hannah.

Can I just say, you have to be careful when you give me compliments. Because you told me that I inspired Margot Robbie with random hair accessories. I took that to heart, woke up this morning, I said, We're going to put as many new accessories in our hair as we can. And then I started regretting it.

You keep me young. You truly keep me young because my Gen Z assistant just recently cut a bob, and she truly cut a bob to wear more clips. And she does that hair style all the time now.

In my heart of hearts, I am Gen Z, but with the millennial upbringing.

And this is how I also know you're a narcissist. Because we've been together for 10 minutes, you haven't said one thing about my feather.

Because I was waiting to press record.

A single thing about my feather.

No, this is the thing. I love this main character, Energy Feather. So she is just a really comfortable T-shirt.

A stowed, oversize. She's thick. I mean, feel that. You'd like that.

No, that is high quality. I thought it was stowed. Tomato-tomato. Tomato-tomato. My mom called me and she's like, You guys got to learn how to pronounce words because it's starting to get to me. And I said, Well, that was the educational system that you brought me up with. I love this feather.

Amazon, I actually put it in the newsletter. Wait, you added it? Yeah.

Oh, you're a full designer. No, I literally- This is Project Runway.

It came up on my Amazon and I was like, What is that fun little clip?

Okay, so I'm going to put my hair clips in the newsletter and you put your feather clip, and the girls are going to be... It's like that Jennifer Anaston movie where they put... What is it called?

Usually I can get there. Usually I can. Jennifer Anaston movie.

She works as a waitress, and she puts When she does good things, they give her more clips. Oh, it's all the space. Flare. Oh, okay. Anyway. Oh, did you watch?

So I watched it.

Okay. Tell me everything.

You made it seem like a nice... I was excited to sit down to watch a good documentary, and it was-I didn't want to give things away for the people. Not enough people are talking about truly how unhinged Tyra is. Like, She seems a little bit crazy in this documentary. Also, I have three weeks left in my Invisalign, and I actually think it gave me a lisp. So I digress for two seconds.

Or is it the Botox that's giving you a lisp?

I think it's a combination of the things.

Because the one thing you have to do for your job is speak.

It's the only thing. And I go, What's a challenge that I could make my job a little bit harder for myself?

So Tyra had this evil grin the whole time? Yeah. Where she'd be like...

She came off... Oh, my God. I don't mean to bash Tyra Banks right now, but she came off a little bit in-off... Not a little bit. She came off pretty in-authentic, especially when they're recounting these events, and then they have the actual girls being like, No, he was groping me. There's no if, and, or, but. I was uncomfortable, and it was weird, and no one did anything.

You could tell she didn't know that the other people were going to speak out the way they It almost seemed like it was posed to her of like, This is a documentary, and we're going to scratch the surface.

You can give us some PR answers, and the other people will talk. You don't have to get as much in the mud.

I can't believe she agreed to it.

I can't believe she agreed to it.

But I also think she was trying to be like, I want to defend myself in a way, but then she didn't really try. She was just like, I don't want to address things.

Well, I just think anything that came up that was like, this is a crazy... Okay, the girl Shandy, where they were talking about how she got blackout drunk and she cheated on her boyfriend, and they filmed- Which is not what happened. And they filmed the whole thing, and then they filmed the next morning. She acted like in the beginning, she didn't even remember who she was. And it's like, okay, if you had come out and been like, of that time period for TV, I was pressured into making it more salacious, and I regret it. I shouldn't have added X, Y, and Z because they were editing it.

And be like, yeah, I got obsessed with making the show as salacious as possible. I wanted to make more money. I wanted the show to be bigger. I wanted to beat it. I think also anyone in reality TV production, she said She wasn't. She's the executive producer. Anyone in reality TV production-I met some of the worst people in my life in reality TV production. Reality TV production. And some people are good people. They fall into it and then realize, Oh, this is horrible what we're doing to these people, and then they get out of it. I'm telling you, there's a reality TV reckoning happening.

I can say I've had some producers on reality TV where I'm like, You have made my experience that much better. You've really helped me tell my story. You've really helped me open up. And then there are some people that I'm like, You actually are the devil. It's crazy that this is your job.

They call it producing, but it's actually manipulating. Produce. They'll say, Hey, I'm going to produce her. Watch this. And then you take a normal person having normal emotions and twist it for them to think they're in some different setting. And seeing Shandy have to do these phone calls on camera, and you could tell to this day.

It fucked her up. Well, every single one of them, even though this was 10 to almost 20 years ago, none of them are over any situation that they went through. You can just tell the way they're talking about it that it has stuck with them, and they think about it every single day.

You know, it's sad. If the show wasn't successful, it actually wouldn't have affected them that much because no one would have seen it. So that's the problem with when things go viral is that everything is that much more intense.

The craziest thing for me is, I feel like I grew up watching Tyra Banks. You watch her on Victoria's Secret, she was in that movie, Life Size. Then this show comes out. I just had this vision of Tyra Banks my whole life of not only she's so stunning and gorgeous, but she's smart. She's a business... Do you hear my list?

How annoying is it for you? Do you hear it? You're like, I can't go on. Or just lean into it. Be like, This is...

Not this.

Tara Banks.

I have to take my...

You could just be French. Be like,. Oh, my God. That was iconic. Keep that in, Grace. Keep that in. I feel like I've done that before hooking up with a guy.

I've totally taken out things I stuff my bra with before. I'm like, Don't worry about this. And not discounting the things that Tyra Banks has done for Black women, curvy women in modeling, opened so many doors, totally. But I saw a clip, and it was her talking about her modeling career, her talking about any business venture, the show, whatever. And she said, I really want my legacy to be ice cream. And I said, You know what? We're done here. Truly, we're done here, I think.

I think you know that when you said there can be multiple truths at once. Yeah.

Did I say that?

No.

That's what I thought.

Back to my original point. She has done so many amazing things for women, for diversity, of size, of race.

Totally. But also- The theory of this show was good intended. It was. This was nice.

Also, the amount of beautiful women who look differently than the popular model at the time. Reality TV is messy because they don't treat you as humans. You're characters that they monetize, except afterwards, they don't go audition for new characters. You are the character. And it's stuck with you. And I also have to say, Tyra didn't act alone. Tyra had. Totally.

Massive Executives.

Executives, fucking. Yeah. Making tons of money off of Shandy.

And if the network says something, then it's like, Okay, well, this is what we have to do. And I feel like she found herself in a rock in a hard place. That's why I feel like doing this documentary now, if she had sat there and was like, so much got fucked up that I would have never seen coming. And now, years later, looking back, I feel really bad. If she had just said that one time, I think I would have had a totally different experience watching her.

Even at the end, when they didn't get what they wanted from her, and it cut to Danielle being like, Shut up. It definitely that was what they wanted you to get from it. I also think what pissed me off the most, actually, there was a lot of things. But one of the things that was frustrating is because it was 2000s, they didn't have Instagram. So nowadays with reality TV, even if something bad happens to you, you still have your own platform that you can build. These girls didn't have that. She just had to go back to Walgreens, and she could not have a voice. She couldn't express herself. She couldn't show other sides of her.

You're almost in a jail that you created or that they created for you.

I could tell... Even Love Island, when these people leave, they're set for five years. Yeah. If they build a following off of it.

Ten years? Yeah.

Where these girls couldn't build a following on their own. That was it. I could see so many of these girls going extremely viral. But then also It could have even been worse. Shandy could have been just so harassed online.

It could have been worse. How do you brought up Love is Blind? Are you watching? No. So the new season came out. Is it good? It's such a good way to gage what dating is like in the current moment. Every guy wants a husband. They all want... They truly want husbands.

The truth is, if they want to be on reality TV, they want a husband.

Louder for the people on the back. They want a husband, and And they also... The only reason why I say that is because a lot of it... They talk a lot this season about being sexually attracted to the person, which totally. I could never do Love is Blind. I feel like that is a solid 50/50. You have to be able to have sex with that person. But the guys want to be... They don't want to do the initiating. One of the arguments was like, Okay, but you could initiate, too. I am so of the mindset of, If you think it should be 50/50, you want a husband. You don't want to date me.

You want her to chase you?

They also, a lot of the men, they bring it up more that they're not attracted to the women. I'm like, Do you own a mirror? Have you ever looked in it one time? No, just one time. Take a glance. Why you think you deserve someone... You're already with someone that's way hotter than you. You think you deserve someone even hotter, please check the mirror.

It is crazy to think what men think they- Well, it's delusion.

And all the girls say that, wow, he's... Here's a one all another gripe I have with Love is Blind. I don't know these people people's names. And if I see them one time on the screen and you don't have their name in the lower third, I'm never remembering it. Love is blind. Someone in editing, keep the names up for longer. This is one season we're never seeing these people again. I'm not memorizing their names. I have no idea what couple is which and what their names are, and I'm just like, the blonde one, the blonde or blonde one.

I just want them to be uglier. People missing teeth.

Okay, that's a totally different show.

No, but that's Love is Blind. I want you to fall in love with someone and be like- No, but everyone is- The same- I actually think they do a really good job of like, I don't think there's someone that I'm like, Oh, my God, she's 10 times better looking than all the other girls.

I really do feel like all the girls are pretty- But is it more interesting if they throw in a model with a horrible personality and then the funiest, most charming girl who isn't traditionally good-looking? I mean, yeah, everything That would make way better to be.

Not me acting like Tyler Banks.

You're no better than a man. You're like, What if we got a leggy model? Okay, and we put her with an ogre. Ratings would skyrocket. And no, they would. But that's why I'm like, it's so crazy that the men are like, I don't know if I'm attracted to you because I'm like, you don't know if you're attracted to her? Are you kidding?

Also, men would have sex with warm bread pudding if it was in their vicinity.

Hannah, you would be so mad. There's this literal... She's an angel. I don't know her name is, though, and I wish I did.

I don't watch these shows because I get too mad.

She's an angel. She's gorgeous. She's stunning. She's a doctor. A medical MD doctor went to College multiple years. This man is pushing, pushing 5, 6, truly. And he looks at this woman and he goes, I'm really used to being with someone that goes to Pilates every single day. First of all, no, you're not. So that's a lie. Second of all, then if you like it so much, go.

She's busy saving lives. She doesn't have time to do Pilates three times a day.

She's literally... What was it called during COVID? She's essential.

Oh, she's an essential worker.

She's essential. You're not. And if you love Pilates so much, you should go every day. But also men... I'm also sick of the men going to Pilates. That's a whole other gripe.

That's illegal. It's not a space for you. Who's going to Pilates?

I've been seeing it a lot on my timeline. Oh my God. I'm starting to get really annoyed.

No, because if there's a man in your Pilates class, you're going to get robbed.

Well, it's also like, okay, you don't let us go to the gym and wear sports bras because you're freaks, and now you think you're going to show up to our gorgeous ballet studios.

And then they're always like, Can I put another red on? Shut the fuck up. Shut up.

Anyway, we digress.

But the problem with these middle good-looking men, they're in the middle. We all know those are the ones that really fuck with you. Any time I've dated down, but when you date down- What is your definition of dating up? I don't like dating down. I like to feel like I'm obsessed with them. I want to feel lucky to be with them.

You have to admire them. Yes. I think that's the word.

Yes. I have dated guys who I admire their jawline, but then the second they open their mouth, I'm like, No, no, no, no, no.

My grandma She said something to me. This is like years. I mean, I was in middle school. I'm like, Grandma, I don't even know if I need to know this. But she said something to me that has truly stuck with me through my 20s and my 30s. And that is if you have a son and your son walked through the door right now, and he was an exact replica of who you're currently dating. Are you proud of that person?

And I'm like, I'm delusional. I don't rate myself in any way. I just know that I'm that girl. I'm not like, Oh, I'm this. I don't look in the mirror. I don't know how I look. I just know that I want the best for myself that is right for me.

We have high standards.

I have very high standards.

Very high expectations.

Very high I have high expectations, and I think it's because of my parents, and I know yours as well. Very high expectations. Zero tolerance for disrespect. Zero tolerance for- Zero tolerance for not believing in me. Zero tolerance for sassiness.

Zero tolerance- Gentle parenting not around here. Never seen it, never heard of it. Only heard about it in books and movies. Never experienced it.

And I remember dating down. And when I say down, it's like, in your heart of hearts like...

You're a loser.

He's a loser. I feel like they know that they don't deserve you. And because of their insecurities, they fuck with you. And that's the most upsetting thing. And that's literally made my mind crazy. Crazy.

Yeah. Well, honestly, that's the whole plot of Tell Me Lies.

And the director- Maybe that's why it's triggering for me. It is. I said that girl should not be talking to him.

Well, they just ended the series. They just put the season finale out, which I watched it. Some people were mad about it because they felt like the main character, Steven got away with everything, whatever. There's a lot of discourse about it.

I mean, that's life. That's life. Men getting away with stuff.

That's life. But one of the craziest things is the director, I think she's the director, came out and I was like, I have been shocked over the past few years about how many people are so mad at Lucy, saying that she's just as bad as Steven and hating her, almost in the sense of, Well, because she's weak, we hate her. But discounting the fact that she wasn't like this. He literally manipulated her. He made her into this.

Your response to abuse should not be judged. People respond to abuse in many different ways. Some people freak out. Some people just become a clam. And I think...

Another seafood reference. Do you know my dad called me last night? He was, I got to talk to you about something because I'm a little bit pissed off. And my dad rarely will call me after 8: 00 PM because I'm like, he's asleep. I get a FaceTime at 9: 30, and I'm like, Oh, I must have really annoyed him with something. And he goes, How dare you sit on your podcast and talk bad about clams? He took my side. He He goes, I love clams. You love clams. You're acting like you don't love clams. He goes, We go to Italy every single year. I eat clams for dinner and lunch, and you didn't even say anything.

I love when we say the most horrible shit about men, and your dad calls, Can we discuss the clam?

The clam? He goes, Well, one time in Italy, we saw Michael Kors at breakfast, and he's never forgot it. So when you talk about Michael Kors on the pod, he's like, My friend.

I saw Hannah on my friend. Did she say hi? Did she say Gary says hi?

Because maybe we could all have clams.

I love that Gary's listening. Hi, Gary Bear. No, he listens every week. Speaking of calling people last night, our lives are never boring. Never. Something comes up-eth, and I want to- Express yourself. I'm all hyped up. Yeah. Now, I know it was around 10: 30, and I said, Paige is out for the day.

She's done. She's done. She's clocked out.

She's clocked out. But in one of those moments of friendship, I said, I don't care. Yeah.

If you're calling me post 9: 45, you might get a yoga instructor.

You might get a health guru. I answer, Hyped up. I've been jacked up. Yeah. Paige answers with a mask on.

Yeah, a classic sleep in face mask. Getting my collagen where I can.

I give her all these crazy arguments, she goes, I'm going to need you to relax.

I'm about a joint and a half deep. Hannah starts hitting me with life plaguing questions. Like, I'm not talking next week, next month. I'm talking things that will affect us in 5-7 years.

We have a work project going on, and I'm like, I had an epiphany. I think we scratch it. I go, I think we start from the ground up. And it's because of these seven different points. And she looks at me, she goes, Everything's going to be fine. I need you to just relax. I'm going to need you to take a beat. But mind you, if I'd called you at 11 o'clock right when you're on your walking pad and you're jacked up with coffee, you would have been like, I'm actually... Let me get on the with my lawyer right now and I'll deal with this.

There's nothing I love more than getting on the phone with my lawyer. Actually, there's one thing I love more than getting on the phone with my lawyer is telling people I'm getting on the phone with my lawyer.

Well, seeing you in small claims court is real. Absolutely. A hundred %. Absolutely.

So I'm hosting the SAG Awards, Red Carpet for Netflix. I have a frozen chin, a lisp. Now, I didn't tell Netflix that I have a frozen chin and a lisp. I'm still here now. And my My fear is I'm going to do it, and people are going to be like, Oh, my God. She went so overboard with the Botox. She loves plastic surgery. When I was the one that was like, I'm waiting to get Botox, and then I get a little bit botched, and now all of a sudden, so I'm nervous that that's going to be whatever. I have two weeks, though, until- You're going to be totally fine.

I've been going in the sauna. Also, I've been looking at your face this whole time. I haven't been distracted by your... But I also don't really listen to you.

Yeah, but you love me. And I love you. There's a lot of people out there that don't.

If the worst The thing people have to say about you is you over did the Botox. That's a relatable queen.

Oh, thank you so much for saying that.

It's honestly more likable for you to stop being so perfect all the time, I would feel like.

Let me tell you something, too. I really need your help, and I selfishly asked you to come over to my apartment today because I actually want you to help me with my cards for the SAG Awards.

I was going to say, I was supposed to do it with you.

Hannah is supposed to do the SAG Awards with me, and I get a phone call from Hannah saying, I actually decided to absolutely not do that.

No, but the day before I'm shooting my special. Okay, so you have a lot. It was impossible. And emotionally, I couldn't make it happen.

You couldn't handle it. The amount of beta blockers actually don't exist.

And then you've dealt with me tired, standing on the wrong side before.

No, especially that's a lot, that you need a full week to recover after that.

So you have to study. So I have to study- Because it is... Let me just say it's live, which is different than a lot of people can interview and just take the funniest moments and post it, which is ideal. But live is like, you're going to be working, babe.

Well, I have normal facts about every single celebrity. How many times I've been nominated? What movie it's for? All the boring facts. But now I'm going in and adding one funny question or like, Okay, look, they hired me for a personality, honey. They knew they were a get.

It is live. I guess you can ask anything.

Who here do you trust?

You just do I'm really full Andy Cohen at a reunion with everyone coming in.

No, literally.

You go, who have you been side-eyeing?

Like, do you have a finsta?

No, I'm obsessed.

Also, at the end of the day, your dress is really good. No, my dress is... Which is, at the end of the day, all that matters. Which is, at the end of the day, all that matters. It's truly all that matters.

But it's going to be fun. I can't wait to watch it.

Wait, one other viral thing that I saw recently, and we don't like praising the men on this, but sometimes I'm like, Oh, I have to take someone's side. I don't know why I didn't see this during the Super Bowl or anything, but did you see that clip of Tom braided and Logan Paul? They were at the Super Bowl doing a podcast.

That doesn't come across on my algorithm, thank God.

Okay, the only reason it came across mind was it- Across. It was a girl doing a duet to it, a rebuttal video. Essentially, there's some game or something that Tom braided is doing, I think. I don't know. Men love a game. If it's flag football or if It's football, but it's for a... I have no idea what it is. Tiger, Marco Polo. Yeah, not what I'm here for. But Logan Paul is playing in it. And so they were talking about competing against each other or on the same team, but whatever. And I guess there's other professional sports people playing in said game, whatever.

Crazy. No one asked me. Continue.

So basically, the debate, not even the debate, Tom braided says to Logan Paul, It's cute that you think you're an athlete, but you're not a professional athlete. You're about to be with major professional athletes. And Logan Paul starts talking about high school.

Same. I would do the same.

And then he says how he's in the WWE. Yes. And Tom braided like, chuckled I actually felt bad for Tom braided in this moment because I'm like, if I was sitting there and some fucking kid was across the table from me, and I'm the proven best in my sport in my position for the past 10 years.

Tom braided put himself in that position. Don't go on a podcast with Logan Paul. That's what you get.

And I would say, as someone who admittedly did Logan and Jake Paul's reality show, who knows what I was going through at that time.

Well, let's be honest, you liked the girls in it.

I liked Nina. I liked watching Nina.

Nina and the other one who just won a gold medal.

I love an Olympian.

Sorry, I like women winning. I do have to say, every now and then I'll be talking to someone and I'll bring up something that happened to me in tennis with college, and they're like, You're literally a man. I feel like I'm on a bad hinge date.

If you say check tape to me, I'm like, What?

I don't think we brought this up. I don't know how I didn't watch this earlier. I think it's because I was waiting to watch it, and then it left my desk, and it came right back across my desk. Did you watch the Wagatha Christie story on Hulu?

What the heck is a Wagatha?

Okay, so Agatha Christie is Is it a novel? Is a novel of a investigator? Yeah. It's about soccer wags.

Okay. Documentary? Yes.

In England, which you love England. It's basically Molly May, but if she was with soccer players.

Page. No, that's the money I want to watch on TV.

Page. This is the most incredible thing.

How many episodes? And I'm diving into that.

It's at least three. Okay. Oh, my God. So it starts off... Of course, I don't remember any of the names. But one of the women is with one of the biggest football players in England. She met him in high school, really cute, and immediately goes from just being a poor English girl to getting papped on the street to be like, What's her story? Why is this guy with her? They fell in love in high school. So she immediately is a star, and she's gorgeous, and people like her, but she's just a regular person. And she likes living this regular life. And she has a private Instagram where she has 300 of her friends who she actually knows.

I love that.

And she posts cute things about the family.

Do you know one of my favorite things about my brother's girlfriend is that she doesn't have Instagram. She literally doesn't care about it. And I'm like, you're so cool. We only speak because we send each other TikToks. I'm like, that's my only form of communication with you.

Neither does my brother, which is why...

No, there's something to be said about it.

The men in my family are just iconic. My dad just learned how to post into stories, which is a problem.

My brother hasn't posted in 12 years.

And that's why we trust them. My brother was out here posting for attention. I'd be like, did I not beat you enough?

I actually feel like I get that text once a week from my brother. Did I not beat you enough as a child? I'm like, Okay, you know what? No, I did, actually. That's why I'm so mean to men. That's why I have no respect for any man, because I was beaten my whole life by my older brother. Logan Paul thinks he's so good at the Never seen Gary DeSorbo. Never seen Gary DeSorbo after a couple- Putting a little girl on a headlock. After a two liter of Pepsi? Unstoppable.

Want to wrestle? Anyway, traumatizing. So she posts on her private story. Now, things start getting leaked to the sun. The sun is the Daily Mail. It's like the- The TMZ of England. The TMZ of England. And at first it's innocent stuff like, Oh, no. There was a drama, though. Her husband gets blackout drunk, is found driving in a car with a random girl. He's like, I don't know how I got in the car. Why is this girl in my car? How did this-She needed a ride. She jumped in my car. I didn't know. She was trying to jack my car. I don't know what his excuse was, but she was going through it because she loves this man, and she's like, he clearly has drinking problems and cheats on me when he's drunk. At one point, she posts that she's with him during this on and off time, and it goes to the sun that they're together, the S-U-N. And she's like, that's crazy because I just posted it on my story. And she's looking through like, Who could have leaked this? This continues happening. And she's starting to go crazy and get really paranoid because she's like, Is this one of my close friends?

Are you going to tell us who it is? Because I'd like to put in my formal guess now. It's one of her friends that knows him from high school, and maybe they've hooked up or dated. Please proceed.

That is a great...

Okay.

It could have been. But it wasn't. It's actually one of her not close friends. She was at a big soccer thing, and she met another wag who loves being famous, loves being on covers, loves having articles written about her. Now, for some reason, this girl, when the sun writes about her, it's It's all positive. It's like, look at her on vacation in Italy. And she's like, I've never seen someone get so much positive footage from a tabloid before. So she met this girl, and the girl immediately was like, what's your Instagram? I can't find you. And she's like, oh, this is my private Instagram. So she She's another wag. So she thinks that girl would-There's a code. It's a code. It's like a bro code.

You know what to say. Yeah.

So she's like, I think it's this girl. So she finds a way to block everyone from her story. I mean, that's why they call me Wagatha Christie. This girl is a genius. But also it's interesting, she won't tell anyone. She's not going to a lawyer. She's not going to the police. She's just like, I'm going to figure this out on my own, which is very U-Coded.

I was just going to say the power of a woman The power of a woman. The power of a woman. She goes, I don't need-The power of a determined woman.

I'm not calling a 65-year-old man to put this on his desk and forget about it. So she posts something very controversial. She's always wanted to have a daughter. She has four sons. So So she posts that she's going to Mexico to try to confirm the gender of her child. Something crazy.

We're adopting an alien from Mars.

So she posts it and she sees the other wag see it. She's the only one that saw it. Nothing happens. And then she waits. And then something else gets leaked. And she's like, Fuck this. I'm blocking the girl. And the girl responds. It's like, Hey, why did you block me? The girl's clearly following stuff. Then a couple of months later, The story leaks about the girl and the gender baby. So she's basically- The gender baby. The gender baby. So she just goes straight to Twitter and is like, I cannot believe this wag has been doing this to me. And it goes on a whole thing. It blows up. Guess what the other wag does? She says, It's not me. I'm suing your ass. So they get in this insane legal battle. And the other wag, they're like, Okay, everyone has to submit their phones and stuff. The other wag goes, Oh, my phone got dropped in a lake. And then her agent, too, was like, Oh, my phone broke. I don't know what was going on. But then they submitted files with things redacted.

Okay.

Should I say what happened? Yeah. Okay, but you want to know what happened?

You led us all to this water, and then you're like, And find out in the next episode. No, tell us what happened.

So at first it seemed like they weren't going to be able to say who did it, but it was found between the agent and the other wag that they were both colluding to sending stuff. So it was proven that she was guilty. It was the craziest war. But I think that woman still says it wasn't me.

Here's my thing with that. I feel like I've been in the position, you two, so many times where I'm like, I could go to war with this person and truly prove I can prove them wrong in the court of public opinion, and I can bring up all these receipts, and I could show everyone just how fucking crazy you are. But then I will have to live with, anytime someone googles your nameless name, I'm going to come up, and I don't want anything to do with you. I don't want to be put together with you in a news article. I don't want our names ever being in the same sentence. So you have to be really You have to really feel- She regret it.

She said, My life, I thought I was going to win. You think you're getting justice? She thought she was getting justice, and she said, The next three years of my life were the worst years of my life. Millions of dollars spent in legal fees in the negative attention.

And just taking up your energy, even thinking about this loser.

Also, your private life is so exposed. Every single text message, it's very scary. So as two Sicilians who love revenge, there are so many times where you're a miserable fuck, and I'm not playing in the mud with pigs.

Well, you know how I love blocking people and you're letting them watch?

No, I've never blocked a person. I block people on my phone because I don't like people having access to me.

But you're very much let them see my social media where I'm like, Okay, blocked. Got to go. I forget what my point was. I just like to point that out. You don't block people, and I do.

I know block people because look, you got to see the whole movie. You can't stop in the beginning of the movie when things are hard.

No, but I just think it is a better revenge being like, you think you're taking me down, but my silence of never speaking your name, not even knowing that you exist, is probably eating you up more than me acknowledging you and saying that you are, in fact, crazy.

Yeah, I block men. I block bad friends on my phone because I don't want you to have access to me. I don't want you to try to manipulate me. I don't want you to try to fuck up boundaries that I've put. But in terms of me as a person and my social media and what I'm up to, it drives me. I think it's smart. Yeah, I appreciate that. You're so welcome. You know when you give me compliments that you create a monster, so please stop. I'm also obsessed with random neppo babies. I didn't know we're random neppo babies.

Like?

Like Lily Collins. People don't talk about her like she's a neppo baby. Her dad is Phil Collins. Her dad's Phil Collins.

Which is who again?

He's one of the greatest musicians of our time.

No, I knew that.

Well, he's iconic because he looks like an accountant, and then he's playing every instrument and has the voice of an angel. Do you remember the Tarzan soundtrack?

Not off the top of my head, but if someone brought it.

Okay.

No, but still not totally ringing about. You got it.

No, Nathalie, don't be shy.

No. He wrote it, though? Yeah. Any other good ones?

Tarzan was my sexual awakening.

No, I mean, Nepo children.

I thought you wanted to be the keep with That's so funny.

Phil Collins music. That's so funny because I remember when I was younger seeing Tarzan, my first instinct was, Why would she want to be in the jungle? She's wearing a dress.

She's wearing a- You hated that she had pearls and little gloves. I hate it. And then she was forced to be in the mud. Yes.

I hate it. I was pissed off. I actually wouldn't finish watching it. I told my mom, I was like, This is stupid. She's dressed. She's ready. She has to now forage. She's not even speaking to her. I had strong opinions on Tarzana when I was younger. I was like, Get it off the screen, mom.

That's like getting mad at Jasmine for going with the guy with no job instead of Jafar, who is loaded.

Well, I'm like, Baby, it's You have the money. You could show him the world. What are we talking about? You don't have to get on a carpet. You can get in a Lamborghini.

Yeah, a carpet. A carpet that's been sat on multiple... When was the last time they vacuumed that carpet?

We rarely talk about any good we do. Anything nice we do for- That's boring. I do try and do a lot with my old high school. They're still around. I'm like, I can't let another one go. You have your college life.

That's all you have at this point.

No, it's all I have. I could go back to my middle school, which is thriving, but I feel like they don't need my help. Anyway, I try and sponsor things when I can. I try and pay for things, whatever. But one of the things that I do Is they do this alumni connection, and someone can ask you because you've already graduated to be there, whatever. I find myself... Couldn't even be Gen Z. What is she? If you're in college right now.

I think Gen Z.

Is she still Gen Z?

Yeah, I think.

So I find myself chatting with a Gen Z girl quite often. And it's so funny because it's not that long ago that we were freshmen In college? It really isn't, though. How long is that? Ten years?

Like, 15 years.

Oh, actually, okay, wow. The math in my head. I was like, But if I'm 26...

Wait, that was Someone yesterday was talking to us about our age, and I was like, We're 26. Everyone thinks we're 26.

Wait, literally, I just was like, Wait, but I'm 26, so how could that be?

I think people think we're 29 to 31. Whatever.

It doesn't feel that long ago, even though it was. But when I talk to her, I do immediately get back into the mindset of like, Oh, my God, I don't know if I don't have this figured out. And then I'm telling her, This is what the beginning of college is for, to figure out all these things. You are not behind. You couldn't even mess anything up yet if you tried. And so I find me talking to her about all that stuff. And then obviously, we talk about lasering our hair off and all this. But she texted me recently because we had talked about her being in a relationship and all of this stuff. And she texted me recently, and she was like, I fucked around, and I listened to Giggly Squad a little bit too much, and I broke up with my boyfriend. And I just I feel like now we need to go even younger.

Do you know why I say good? Because no girl has ever broken up with a guy and regrett it.

Which is an amazing point because I would-I've never accidentally made a mistake and broke up with a guy. Do you have one girlfriend that you've ever had a conversation with where she said, he's really the one that got away?

Never. Also, no girl randomly just wakes up and is like, I'm going to break up with a guy. She has went through pros and cons. She's talked to 12 to 17 different people about it, including professionals, including her therapist. I actually think there is a young crew of girls who listen to Giggly Squad, and they're powerful.

No, they're powerful. I'm like, if you can recognize this now that he's holding you back. He doesn't want you to do X, Y, and Z because it's making him feel inadequate because of whatever. If you can realize that now, you save so much time in your 20s.

I also hate to say it because I love sex in the in the city. But it did give me this feeling of you could be single in your 30s, and it's scary. They're like, How do we find this man? How do we find this man? How do we find this man? But maybe they're listening to girls like us in our 30s, where it's like, Yeah, I'm married, but we don't talk about that. I love how he literally was like, You don't need to find a man. But the truth is, we're not like... It's not life or death finding a man.

Well, one, I feel like because you're married, so you don't think about it.

And also because I'm married, and you guys understand that it doesn't...

It doesn't play into your day-to-day life. Where is that man? Who is he?

No, no one's respecting me more because I'm married. Every respect I've ever gotten in this industry is because of myself.

If anything, one of my... I've lost respect. One of my biggest fears of getting married is that I will lose respect.

It's horrible for the brand.

I'm like, Wait, people aren't going to take me seriously because I take you seriously.

You reflect on to me.

I'm like, Do you realize that you're ruining everything about my-Yeah.

And Sex in the City was literally them at brunch sometimes just being like, This guy hurt me. I don't know what to do with this guy. I don't know what to do with that guy.

No, that's like, I would say right now at this time, one of my biggest fears is that if I get married and I have a baby, every Everyone will look at me differently, treat me differently, and my job and career will change.

Seeing girls pre being a mom as like, that's their life. And then after when the mom starts, it's like, well, now you're a mom. But I think we're the generation that's changing that.

Yeah, we'll start with me.

We'll start with you.

But I will say when I froze my eggs, I did feel like, oh, I'm fine.

Also, there's so many women in the arts, women in stem, who you don't realize has a full-fledged family. She just doesn't talk about it. I do have to say I don't like when influencers make their boyfriends their whole personality, because then when it doesn't work out, it's like you're less than because he was making you who you were.

Yeah. And also just if you have a boyfriend that wants to be on your Instagram story, he wants a husband.

Can I just say how take whenever I see influencers posts with their boyfriend and he looks miserable, green flag.

I think so, too. And I've seen girls comments where it's like, he hates you. And I'm like, I couldn't even bring myself to comment that on someone's. That's crazy.

Because I know men in my life who are the greatest men, do not want to be on camera. If a camera gets in front If I wanted them, they're immediately freeze, don't know what to do, don't know what to say, and don't like it. If a man is telling me he wants to be in my Insta story, red fucking flag.

And obviously, there's so many reasons why I never talk about dating a man or being with a man. Even Valentine's Day, people were like, Obviously, you're in a man's bedroom because it has no artwork. The bed's unmade. What's going on here? Is that a jail cell? There's There's so many different reasons on why. One, I feel like because I had such public relationships, and the court of public opinion is not healthy. But two is because I'm like, What What the hell does he have to do with my personality?

100%. I posted Happy Valentine's Day with my mom, and people were messaging me, What's going on with you and Des? I'm like, You mean the man sitting next to me right now?

There's two types of men. There's men that love compliments and love praise and love looking cool. And like, Yeah, I'll post this picture because I want a DM that says I look cool or people to think that I look cool, whatever. And then there's men that don't post because they only care if you think it's cool.

Also, they know they're cool. They don't need other people to tell them.

I actually forget what my point was.

The thing is you're really good at setting up a point. Here's the I'm in. Whatever you're about to say, I agree with.

Actually, let me rewind.

Let me go back.

There's two types of men. There's men that care about what other women think, and then there's men that care about only what the person they're with thinks.

But I I don't even just say men. There's two types of women. Women that care about what every man thinks of them, and women who just care about the man they love thinks of them. And there's a power in that. There's also three types.

There's also another type of man that Who cares what other men think? Well, Des is like this, and I would put Des in this category. He doesn't play when it comes to you. Here's the thing. If you both did a picture of him and someone commented something rude, You're setting him up to have an angry day because he can't compartmentalize. If it was about him, he could compartmentalize and be like, Yeah, that person. Who cares? I don't know that person. But when it comes to you, he doesn't mess around. But then there's men where it's like, You would talk shit about me if someone gave you the opportunity, and they were like, No one will ever know, say what you really feel.

The way your man speaks about you is how he feels about you and what he puts into the world.

And I will say, I don't think I've ever been with someone. I actually, just to dumb it down, I don't think I've ever been with someone who genuinely liked my full personality, liked certain parts and certain characteristics. But I don't think I've ever been with someone that 360 likes my personality.

If you feel like you have to be anything other than yourself, that's the red flag, which goes back to the beginning of Love is Blind, Which is if you feel like you... It's not about being with someone who's really hot or being with someone who's really cool. It's about being with someone who makes you feel like you. And that's what my parents always said to me. Yeah. When my parents would see me with whatever man I was with at the time, they wouldn't look at him. They would look at me. And they would be like, I don't like how you acted around him. Yes.

You're not eating. You're not eating.

I mean, you look amazing. No, it would always be, I feel like you're waiting for him. Or he seems to control. He's controlling. It was looking at me. And when they saw me being able to be childlike and free and myself, that's when they said, That's the man for you. It was never them looking at the man. Girl.

I also think this is the first time in my life I've ever dated someone Italian.

Why do you think you never went Italian before? I don't know. It's not like there weren't enough Italians in New York.

I feel like I never really- Or you knew that once you started, you'd be stuck. I feel like, well, it's hard explaining an Italian family to a waspy white guy from Connecticut. There is such disconnect. Do you know the word achita?

Yeah, you get achita when you get worked up.

Yeah, this morning.

It's how I live my life.

This morning, I was just like, I have achita. I can't... It's heartburn, but it's also you're just like...

Also, you explaining ricotta to someone.

Yeah, and me being like, Okay, origin of the word. Look, I don't know origin of the word, but you give it to me.

I hate to say it and be an annoying New Yorker, but my man is New York. I've dated guys from other places, and it's not that they're evil. It's that they don't feel like home. You cannot have your cortisol level feels confused and weirded out. It makes you bloated. When you're with someone who feels like family, for better or worse, sometimes their demons are your family's demons, which makes things, at least you know how to deal with it, the devil you know. Finding I'm being someone that is right for you and not just right on a paper, technicality or Instagram. Don't get caught up in this like, Oh, he looks good in my Instagram stories.

Right. No, I'll never post a man ever again. If I have a son, I don't even think I'll post him because we never know. We can never be too cautious. I'm like, Am I really your mom? I don't know. No, it is just weird. Dating is weird. It's weird dating also in your 30s, because I don't think when you're younger, you fantasize about it. You fantasize about dating in your 20s like, Oh, my God, what's it going to be like? I'm going to go on all these dates. And you rarely think about it in your 30s because you're like, Oh, well, I'll be married by then. And then when you're not, you're like, Well, what is this? What is dating in your 30s?

Do you even call it a boyfriend?

You're basically his boss. One of my girlfriends texted me the other Okay, this is a perfect example. In my 20s, if someone didn't send an Uber for me to go out on a date, I would think nothing of it. We live in New York City. Yeah, of course. I'm going to meet you there. There's no like, Let me pick you up in New York City because whatever. Now, if I'm in my 30s, if a guy doesn't offer to send me an Uber to dinner, I'm not going.

How am I supposed to get there?

And if he doesn't, it's like an Uber X, I'm not going. I'm not supposed to. This is the first date you're supposed to be putting all your cards out on the table for me to look at.

And some people might have listened to that and said, Paige, you're being high maintenance, you're being over the top. She knows what she wants. And why waste six months with a guy when you know Immediately, he's not thinking the right way.

If you have high expectations, high expectations is what you'll get. And if you have low expectations, low expectations is what you'll get.

But I also think in your 20s, it's so much easier to lie to yourself. You don't know.

Also, you're poor in your 20s.

You're poor and you don't know. You're literally like, Okay, he did that, but that could mean this. We don't know. I always say it's taking your first shot of vodka when someone's like, Do you want to chase her? And you're like, Why? You don't know what could go wrong. And now when you see tequila, you're like, I'm going to gag.

This goes back to Love is Blind because I'm watching grown men explain why they won't give the woman that they picked to marry compliments. I'm like, This is a really painful conversation. One guy I was trying to say, Oh, because you asked me to do it, now I can, and now I'm putting up a wall. If you're with a man and he says the phrase, I'm putting up a wall, again, he wants a husband. That's for girls.

Putting up a wall is for girls because of you guys.

You can't put up walls. You have no walls. I also did buy a Skims butt pad just because I want to say.

Are you going to put it in the dress?

I don't know what we're going to say.

Wait, I'm obsessed with you.

I just wanted to try it out. I mean, I have the nipple bra.

I'm like, what if we just built it? Imagine me with a butt pad.

We can go to my apartment and you could try it on. I have it.

Okay, we got to go try some butt pads. We love you, gigglers. Thank you for listening. And talk to you later. Have a great weekend. Bye.