Transcript of #3175 RHOSLC S617 Reunion 2 Part 1: Scrolls, Trolls, and Flyingmobiles

Well, hello, and welcome to What's What Happens.

I'm Roni. That's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

Hi, Roni. How's it going? Good.

Hi, everybody. Welcome to Salt Lake City Day. Nice, nice toxic episode for you guys. So welcome. Please join us on February 27th for the Golden Croppies. They will be live in Los Angeles in Hollywood. Might have heard of it. He heard a big tell. It's going to be a good time. We've started inviting all of the guests and all of that, and it's turning out to be a really, really amazing fun musical night. So please join us for that. You can get tickets at watchwhatkrappens. Com. Also, if you want videos, hi, we're on video right now, and you can get those as well as our Trader's bonus episodes and ad-free listening over at our Patreon, which is patreon. Com. Com/watchwhatcrappens. Also, tomorrow, we are going to be on the Jeff Lewis show on Sirius 6M. So join us over there. We're in the second hour at 10: 00 AM with Jeff et al. We're going to be on TV because they're shooting it for their TV show.

They are? Tomorrow? Really?

Yeah. I'm going to start a fight with Ben about something I'm not sure what it's going to be. Oh, man.

That means I have to put together a nice outfit.

You always put together a nice outfit. I always feel like I do.

You do. I always feel like I do. Then what happens is we always take the group photo and I look cray-cray. Then also, they always put me in this one seat. There's the Roni seating the Ben seat, but the Ben seat is the that the camera gets from the side, and I'm always hunched over. I'm literally just like, strike a Nona over her pot whenever they get an angle of me. I feel like I always look crazy. Always.

You don't, and I'm not giving up my seat. Oh, I just wanted to show people while we're talking about outfits. I wasn't really paying attention today. Who cares? I live alone, whatever. I'm dying alone. Just kidding. No, I'm not kidding. I'm just kidding about crying about it. But I just passed myself I know because I had to go get a sweater to put on. You need to look at my outfit. I look like a five-year-old that you let dress themselves to go to school.

This is what I'm wearing. Let's see. He's wearing a green jacket with flowers, which is nice, and then a bright green PGA Masters Blazer green or a miniature golf, turf green, pant, and then a pink shirt. I think it actually is stylish.

I look insane. I just caught myself in the mirror and was like, What in the world, Rondal? I've just become an old lady over here, and you know what? I'm fine with it. Anyway, let's get to it.

I'm wearing my- I'm both in green, darling. No, I'm not in green. I'm wearing a Nike Training Club T-shirt because I used to go to a boot camp thing that I hated, but I kept on going to it because the whole thing was at the end of boot camp, they would give someone a T-shirt if they did a good job. Every week, I was like, I hate this. I fucking want the T-shirt. I deserve the T-shirt. I did it for two years. You'd be different. I tears, and I finally got the T-shirt because it was the last day. They gave a bunch of people T-shirts. I got the pity like, Hey, you came for a long enough time. You eventually got the T-shirt T-shirt. But I still treasure it because I put in the blood sweat, the literal blood, sweat, and tears to get this T-shirt.

That one day. That one.

It's amazing how little of a carrot I need to have dangled in front of me to do certain things.

He'll do anything you want for a T-shirt. Noted. Noted.

Are you heading to the turnt after this, Roni? What is happening with this? This is a new hoodie.

I love this hoodie. I got it from some Facebook ad or something. It's really pretty, but it's got also a nice fuzzy. I'm just very cold. I'm cold-hearted, and I'm cold-headed.

So that's it. I feel like you need a little lantern.

I need to be here like, My butthole is bleeding, and my nose fell off. Ireland is gloomy as fuck. I love that song on The Traitor's. It's just so depressing.

I know it really is. So speaking of depressing, why don't we move in to the real housewives of Salt Lake City.

Guys, what is happening to Salt Lake City? Look, Salt Lake City is always toxic, but it's usually fun toxic. I mean, this was fun, but it was just... It's getting ick, I think. It's getting a little too much. They need to bring back in the fun.

I'm telling you, I feel like I've been a little bit of a canary in the coal mine this season. I love me Salt Lake City. It's still the best one out there, but I'm seeing some things that could be an issue. Now we're at the reunion, and it's a little bit like people are a little unhappy. It is getting a little toxic. It's too much. They're going to have to make some changes. I think they have to make changes for next We don't need to reboot by any means or no. No, no. Just like, I just want to say, don't be complacent, Bravo. Don't be complacent. The rumors are all that two cast members have left. The big rumor is that Whitney has been fired. Now, I'm not saying that there were any visual signs that Whitney has been demoted, but the fact that she spent most of the episode with a giant Winter Olympics box over her head was a pretty bad sign.

It's not a great sign.

Did you see that? That was the funiest thing. It was the funiest because I had seen... Before I'd watch the episode, people were already posting about it on social media. But then when I sat down and watched the episode, because I didn't watch off the screen or I watched off the TV, and it's the entire reunion, every time they got to it, there's just a box right over her face. I took a picture of it. I'll put it up on the screen while you talk because it's just for anyone who just didn't notice it. It was truly the most amazing, most hilarious thing that has ever happened.

One thing that's crazy to me is how Facebook gets away with just posting lies. There's so many lie stories on there. I don't know why anybody even reads that, including me. What am I even doing on there? What am I, 90, anyway? Why am I on Facebook every day? But I am. I read There's all these fake stories. It's like the view Whoopy Goldbergs gets told off by a conservative, and then you read the comments, you're like, This never happened. All the housewives news is just false, false news, and people believe it, including sometimes I forget that I'm just reading complete lies. But one of them that's going around today is that Bronwyn has left the show. Some of them are that she was fired, and some of them is that she left on her own. I don't believe that Bronwyn's leaving. Do you?

I just don't believe it. I don't believe. Not for one second. Not for one second. I don't think she's fired for sure. A hundred % not fired. Why would she quit? The only way she would quit would be to protect Todd. Is there like… I think the theory is that they reconcile on Todd as like, it's either me or the show. I think she's choosing the show. I think it's the show for Bronwyn.

Yeah, she choose the show for Walter Matthau, for sure. But I don't know. I don't believe it. I don't know that I believe I don't believe the Whitney thing either. I don't believe anything, and I don't know why. People were saying, Someone's not coming back. One of the blinds said yesterday, Someone's not coming back, and it's not who you think. My thing is Heather. Were they going to finally get rid of Heather?

She's not on the road trip. I don't know if they're going to get… I think they just did a whole show. I don't think that they don't… I think that they keep Heather. I'm going to say that right now.

I would think so. That's a long shot for them to get rid of.

I think Whitney is… Well, some people are saying there's a chance it could be Meredith.

Meredith, I would expect, though, because that's been a rumor at all season that she walked off and she wouldn't film and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah That's the theory that I heard is that there was, there was footage of her on the plane, but like, she because it was non consensual, she was threatening to sue or something like that.

That's someone's conspiracy theory. And like, and so as a result, maybe she might get demoted because it's like, because it's like she's being like that.

Whatever. So since when it's in-flight entertainment banned? I'm so sick of it. Um, we have my entertainment.

I know. Exactly. I mean, come on. It's either watch Meredith have a meltdown or watch a dog movie, the art of racing in the rain once again. You know? Yeah. Does everyone want to see the picture of Whitney? I've got two pictures.

We're not going to recap a show today, so you might as well show us a picture. We're 10 minutes in.

Here's the group picture. Here's the group picture. Is that true?

Is that really what it was like?

Or did you add that? I took this picture. I took this picture.

Come on.

That's my- Come on. Wait, Ron, you haven't seen? You didn't notice? No. Wait. No, I watched the screener.

This is hilarious. It looks like they put a bag over her head, a bag of chips over her head.

It's literally, look, and then here is the closeup.

I mean, people, if you're not on Crap is on demand, I'm so sorry.

I'm not. This is not a ploy to get you to sign up, but I do have to say this is one of the funniest images of 2026. Like, right now, with the world going crazy, with our country making preposterous demands to take over Greenland, with, ice invading Minnesota and being terrible. Like, what I need right now is Whitney with essentially a bag on her head on TV in front of a little bowl.

This is hilarious.

Cakeome of Baclava.

Baclava.

I mean, it just happened. The thing is when they do the other side, show the other side of of the, of the reunion, it covers Bronwyn's head, but when it's on this side, it completely covers what he had. It was the whole night. It wasn't just like, Oh, there was a shooting shot a whole night. Every time they got to the shot.

That is so funny. Can we pose this?

Yeah, I'll send it to-This is hilarious. I may have posed it last night, but I'm going to send it to Kaitlyn, and I'll be like, Hey, do something.

Yeah, put that on the stories. That shit's hilarious. I mean, that really is like, it looks like they put a bag over her head. It's perfectly centered on her shoulders. I mean, that is just gold. They hate her. Okay, so that's good. So that's some good news. I met someone who worked on Salt Lake City this week. I went to a birthday party, and I don't want to say her name because I don't want to get her in trouble. She didn't tell me anything really juicy because she knows I will come on here and tell. Tattletale. But a producer on the show, really nice and sweet and funny. Oh, my God. I was just like, fan girling over her. I was like, Oh, my God. You create You are an artist. You create art. I was losing my mind. It's like a Metadelle. I was like, sing about bread. Sing about how bread broke up with you. Okay, so anyway, hi to her. Okay, so let's start with this reunion. It's going to be 20 hours long today, you guys. It's just the day we're having today.

It's that day.

Just use your fast forward buttons if you need to. But today, we are picking up where we left off. Angie has just pulled out her prop, her scroll. This is a big one because this was given to her as a gift by Meredith, and she's now using it against Meredith's tag team with Lisa. It's pretty big. It's a pretty big stab. It's a pretty big stab in the gut, if you ask me.

Yes. Angie is like, This is the presentation, but you ask, Okay, I have known Lisa. I thought she was my friend. Then I found out she was trolling me because I am Greek, and she says, She's not the source, but if you open up the scroll, you can pass it down and open up your phone. The person trolling me has the same phone number that Lisa has. She passes it down. Lisa is, Oh, my God!

Oh, my God! I'm so glad we're doing this. I'm so glad because now I get to bring out my phone. Oh, I'm sorry. Hold on. Ben, I'll text you back in a minute. I'll text you back in a minute. Hold on. I've got Matt on the other text line. Hey, Matt, tell Ben I'll text him back in a minute. Text him back. Yeah, I'm glad we're doing this because I'm so glad.

Yeah, it's time for a commercial.

It's time for a crappin's commercial.

By the way, there's one little last piece of housekeeping to do before we get really into this, which is that we did get a message from John Barlow, and he informed us that indeed, freshwolf. Com is up for sale. It is true. The rumors are true. But then he said, Aha. But our website is freshwolf. Co, and it is alive and well. So a correction from John Barlow himself.. Yeah, but also a lesson.

A lesson to us all not to buy a. Co.

Because- Honestly, yes.

Why? Who even came up with that? And what was my response to John? I said, That's great, John. You should buy fresh Wolf. Com because it's up for sale right now.

I know.. Co. I feel like. Co is a trap domain, right? Because everyone is just going to assume. They see the CEO, they assume the M is there. And so they just...

You know who else assumes it? The search bar or whatever, the address bar. It's like, Do you want. Com? Yes, I do, because that's sensical. It makes sense. Lisa is already. She knew this was coming, I guess. She pulls out her phone. Andy is looking over the scroll. Okay, this is a private account saying, I liked Angie up until I saw her flip flop. Lisa's like, That's not me. I don't even say things like flip flop. It's not me. I know that's 100% not me. Okay? He's like, Well- What is the one?

Yeah.

Well, what I'm looking at is an account that someone… That is Lisa's phone number. That it's not my phone number. How dare you? That is not. My phone number is. Co.

Yeah. My phone number is 713-555. Co. Andy's like, Yeah, but this is posting comments that are negative about you, Angie, and you're saying this is attached to Lisa's number. Okay, so Lisa, is this your number? Well, it depends. I think that's Ben Affleck's number, and I only know that because we're very good friends. Sorry, not sorry.

She's like, That's not how you even look it up. That's not even how you look it up on Twitter. You're so stupid. Whitney's like, Tell him why. Tell him why we figured this out, because the Winter Olympics are coming Friday, February 26th to Peacock, MBC.

He's like, No, no, no, that's not me. You're lying. You're lying. I'm not done.

You're lying.

It's a joke, Andy. I'm not lying. It's a joke. It's a joke, Andy. It's a joke. A real comedian's Blake Lively.

It's your phone number. Accountant. It's your phone number.

It's a prop flop. It's a prop flop.

Hey, that was a prop flop. Prop flop. Tell your friends. Prop flop.

It's okay. You did it. And he's like, Okay, okay, Bezos, he who holds the scroll gets to talk. Okay, first question to the scroll. Are those new boobs? The scroll has boobs. How cool.

What you're saying this proves is this link was sent to this number, which is Lisa's number. We see this iPhone alert that says... We're sending a recovery. I guess it was the recovery thing, right? Which has been used. This is how Jacks was caught with his fake account on Vanderpump rules. They say, I lost the password to this account, and then they say, Okay, we're going to send this phone number or email or whatever.

But don't you enter in the phone number that you want the retrieval from, right? I don't think if you lose… If you forgot the password, I don't think it says, Okay, we're texting it to this number. Does it?

We could try. Should we try it? Yeah, we should try it. It's not random. Yeah, try it. Try something random. Find some horrible… Well, I guess it doesn't have to be horrible. We could just find anybody we want. Just find the President. No. Ben's going to be swatted. Ben's going to be swatted. I want Ben to be swatted in the middle of the street.

No. How about Sonia Morgan?

Okay. Yeah, look up Sonia Morgan.

Okay. How do I do this? Wait, do I have to sign out to do this?

Yeah, just go use a different browser that you're not signed I'll do a private window.

I'm your private window. And I always enter in Twitter, even though-Wing out for money. By the way, even though it always goes to X, I always enter in Twitter as protest. Okay, sign in. Okay, enter in phone, email, or username. Okay, is it Sonia? I didn't even look. Sonia Morgan's username is… It's Sonia T. Morgan. Sonia T. Morgan?

For God I forgot password.

I forgot password. I forgot password. Okay, I forgot password. Find your X account. Okay, enter in your email phone number or username associated with the account to change your password. So Sonia T. Morgan. Is this illegal what we're doing? We're not trying to actually get it.

No, it's not illegal.

Confirm your email. They probably... See, this is where it's...

So what does it say?

Well, it's saying confirm your email. Verify your identity by entering the email address associated with your X account.

Okay.

I don't know Sonia's email account.

Yeah, because then wouldn't it just email the account? I don't know that we're going to prove anything here today. But Lisa is basically saying what you're saying. I think this is terrible about the issue. Yeah, it's terrible. But Lisa is saying what you're saying, basically. No, you entered the phone number. She's yelling that, and they're all yelling at each other. And she's like, I've watched this account for two years, and I was defending Lisa everywhere and shitting on everybody. And then she was mad at me, and I started to see it say things me, trying to put a narrative about me. And then it was Electra's birthday, and it was before I had a ton of followers, so I could see who watched my stories. So Candice watches my stories. And then two minutes later, Lisa's like, Happy birthday to Electra. Lisa never looked at my posts, but Candice looked at my posts.

So, Candice Story. The smoking guns are really smoking right now. Andy is like, Okay, Lisa, would you like to explain yourself? Do you You know Candice Story? Are you Candice Story? Why could you not have come up with a better name for Candice Story? Because we already have Reality Vaunties. Come on, try a little bit. Okay, Andy, it's like it's not me because that's not even my phone number attached to the account. They put my phone number in, and then they just said reset password or whatever. That's not how it works, though.

Yeah. Andy's like, No, that's not what we did. Yes, because my phone number is not attached to that. That's not I'm not even my account. That's stupid. He's like, But you changed. And Andy says, You changed it after I told you about it. And she's like, No, I did not. You are crazy. She's like, No, I'm not. I am Greek. You're fucking crazy. You're non-Greek crazy. And she's like, No, you're crazy. And so they're just yelling at each other, and Andy's trying to shut them up, but they're just yelling back and forth, You're crazy. No, you're crazy. No, you're crazy. No, you're crazy. No, you're crazy. I'm Greek. I am Greek. Dolma, Dolma, Suzuki, Suzuki. Phone number's Ben Affleck. Baclava.

It's his sisterhood of Baclava.

I'm not lying.

By the way.

And so Heather's like, Then why? Why is your phone number attached?

I just want to say, I'm so sorry. I'm going back to trying to hack into Sonia Morgan's account because it occurred to me, if we enter I enter in, Sonia T. Morgan, username, and then if we say, confirm your email, what happens if I enter in, watch what crap is at gmail. Com, which is our public email. If I enter that, will it say, We have no email associated with that, or will it say, okay, if that is the email, you'll get one. So I'm pressing next. It says, incorrect. Please try again. Oh, Roni. You see?

But was it on Twitter or Instagram?

Or X? This was Twitter. This was Twitter. But the point of the story is that if you try to log in, try to do the confirmation email, and the email is incorrect, it says, No, try again.

Okay, but isn't this Instagram that they're talking about? Because they're talking about stories.

Do I have to go to Instagram? I got to do this. Okay. Should I hack into… Okay, who are we going to go? Who on Instagram? Let's keep with Sonia.

Let's keep with Sonia. Okay.

Instagram. Com. Okay, we're doing this. Okay, phone number or username. Okay. Is she Sonia T. Morgan? It doesn't matter. Honestly, It doesn't matter. You can enter in gobbledygook. Okay. Forgot a password. Forgot a password. Okay. Oh, yeah, it was in Scrum. Okay, I'm going to say Sonia T. Morgan. But here's the thing. It says send login link. It just automatically sends a link to that account name.

It doesn't have the phone number?

It doesn't do the thing where it says, Enter in your email, phone, or username, and we'll send you a link to get back to your account. Basically, Obviously, Instagram. What it does to protect Sonia is you say, This is my username, and then Instagram sends that person's registered email or phone number of, Can't log in link. That's what happens.

It works on Twitter, does not work on Instagram. It's looking like it's vindicating Lisa, basically.

Is that what you're saying? On Instagram, I think it's a vindication.

On Twitter, I'm not. I'm actually surprised. I thought Lisa was going to be 100% guilty of this. Because it sounds real.

We need to know how they actually did this. We're just trying to put the piece… We're like forensic criminologists who are trying to put together this in this case, I know that's not an official term, but we're doing CSI, Social Media Hacking division, and it would be great if they just told us what they did, and then we could go in there.

Yeah, it would be. It would be great. But they didn't. But this does sound like what Lisa Eustace is saying, that you're the one who puts your phone number in there, and then it sends you the whatever. I guess for now, in this little science fair project, she's vindicated. But even if she's not and she is guilty, what were these horrible tweets? Because the first one we saw, the only one we really see evidence of is that she calls Angie a flip-flapper. I don't think that that's that bad. But I guess it's that you're putting on a wig and pretending to be somebody else, right?

You're friends. You're in the same friend circle. You shouldn't be doing this, especially the Monica situation. If she is creating a finsta to just shit on Angie, that's really not cool at all.

Okay. Angie is like, Well, we accepted it and moved on. She's like, No, it's not me. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. Heather's like, Why is your phone number attached then? She's like, It's not. It's not. You're dumb. So, Bron was like, Well, you're acting like you're above it, but you're not above it, Lisa. You're not. Okay? Yeah.

Well, you can sit on this couch and say to me, to my face, all six of them, that you are not Candice story. I don't think so.

I'm not Candice story, okay? That's not me. I'm not Candice story.

It knew intimate details. Only you knew about me, about Angie, about Meredith.

What are the intimate details? What are the intimate details then? Post them, because you guys are saying a lot without proof. The only proof we've seen so far is flip floppers. So show me these intimate details then. I want to see them. Lisa's like, No, you're making it up. I mean, listen, you're not going to get another receipt, proof, timeline, screenshots. You're not going to get that because it's not here. So whatever.

Okay, well, I'd like to move. Can we move on a little bit? I'm going to move forward, guys. I'm not going to move forward. It's not me.

I showed you the stuff. I showed it to you. It's not me.

Moving forward.

Let's see. Yeah, move on to it not being me then because I'm going to show you it's not me. I'm going to show you with proof, and then you're going to owe me an apology. You're going to owe me an apology.

I'm going to go forward.

Okay, let's go forward into you trying to prove things, stupid. You're done. All right.

I just want to get- You owe us an apology because we've stayed your friend, and we've all moved on from it and we've known about it for years.

So you owe us an apology, Lisa Barlow.

Lisa, you just said that was your phone number. Okay, we're going to move on.

You guys treat me like shit. You treat me like shit. It's exhausting. I'm so sick of it. Stop. No, I would not accuse you if I didn't know in my soul, in my soul.

Oh, man, I could be home on Grinder right now. Oh, man.

I love how they're going. I know it in my soul. In my soul, Lisa.

Andy is just now, he's just staring at the Baclava on the table like, What am I doing here? How many more reunions do I have to host? What is my retirement plan? Why can't it be New every single night. I just want to get wasted.

Andy just staring off into space and you hear the music. It's just like, What the world needs now. And so everybody's just yelling. They do not stop. Heather and Lisa are just yelling over each other. And finally, Andy gets up and walks off the stage. And Mary's like, No, Andy, I'm wearing elbow-length gloves. Please, Andy.

This is nuts. This is actually nuts. It's nuts. It's not Andy, please come back. Come back, Andy. I don't want to see you.

He's like, Okay, guys, but come on, guys. He comes back and he's very upset. Heather just laughs and she's like, We're sorry, Daddy Andy. They're like, It's not funny, Heather. I'm mad at Heather for laughing.

Andy's like, Okay, moving forward. Heather, you said, I watch what happens live. You said that you have the receipts proof screenshots of Lisa leaking information. Was that what Andy revealed? Well, that was absolutely part of it. The other part was the, the Conwin fraud part of it all. You know, it sees the word play there. Okay, you know what? Do you want to talk about what you said on Red Rocks and the pictures you have on your phone? Yeah. Talk about the Red Rocks, okay? She's like, What? You mean rolling Thunderfuck? You want to go there? You want to talk about rolling Thunderfuck?

What are these people talking about? First, every time I hear a receipts proof timeline, it's like a Megan trainer song coming on the radio. I just throw things at it and tell it to leave me alone, and I just start screaming to heaven, I never asked for this. Why is this every day of my life? Why is this song still playing? Why? Get her out of my ears. That's what happens every time I hear a receipts proof timeline. So congrats. You've made it to Megan trainer level with me. Okay? First of all. Second of all, the Conwyn fraud port of it all, you guys never even got the nickname right when you were accusing her of that in the first place. The nickname you accused her of using was not the nickname that she used on the social media. And third, they've been calling Bronwyn Conwyn ever since she's been on this show. I read Reddit. Now that I've got that off my chest, who is Rolling Thunder fuck? Once you come out and you say something and say, When you come out with something and say, Red Rocks and Rolling Thunder fuck, you need to explain yourself.

You can't just leave that on the table and expect me to be able to sleep at night.

Yeah, this all just sounds like bars in Arizona.

Rolling thunder. We're going to rolling thunder fucks tonight, Lisa, and you can't come. You're not our real friend.

It's like Lake Havasu. I feel like, you guys, we're going to go to Lake Havasu, then afterwards, we're going to rolling Thunder fucks. Okay, it's so good. It's It's so good. It's karaoke night. I just feel like I see Katie and Lala going there. Heather's like, Everyone on the couch knows who rolling Thunderfuck is. Meredith can explain it. You can ask Lisa, too. Meredith's like, Well, they're alluding to a photograph of me with someone that I dated when Seth and I were separated. His name was Roland Thunderanimo Focacola, and they call him Roland Thunder fox, which I find to be very I'm disrespectful.

For someone to disrespect the Focacola name is beyond disgusting.

The family invented Delivery Focaccia, where it's not Delivery, it's Focaccia. That was the original slogan until it was stolen by the DiJornos.

It's a Jewish Focaccia that doesn't use yeast called Focaccia.

Focaccia.

It's what we call the craziest Focaccia. You're coming after my culture.

No I feel like my faccata has been singled out.

So, faccata, faccata. There.

Look at that. There. Look at that. Finally, okay, I invented this faccata when I was feeling a bit faccata during our separation, and I made it with Roland Thunderopolis, Focacolo. Whatever his name was, I said. It was too many syllabus for me to remember, to be honest, but I'm hoping that we settle on a final saying of his name, and we can go forward from there. Thank you.

Okay, but my question is, why is that even such a big bomb to drop, the red rocks? I mean, why is that a big bomb? Lisa's like, Because. Why do you still have the photos on your fucking phone, though, if you're her friend? She goes, That was three years ago. Okay, so Heather had gathered these pictures on her phone to out Meredith for cheating on the show and was trying to get everybody to… It's basically what I'm cobbling together here. Andy's like, So what's the big deal? Meredith just said she and Seth were dating people when they were split up. It's the dumbest thing. I mean, keep going. It's a bad luck for everybody but me and Mr. Focaccia, who makes delicious I'm out of some.

It's a deal that didn't work out, and that's okay. Andy is like, All right, let's pick it up after the break. Okay, all this focaccia talk is making me hungry. I'm going. Bye, everyone. Commercials. Here comes one right now. Now it's lunch break, and so Heather and Whitney are eating together. Heather's like, Right out of the gate. Meredith just sat there on the couch, says not a word in Lisa's defense. Like, just sit there and hopefully you'll eventually get it. Meredith says nothing in Lisa's defense. I'm like, because that's their dynamic. Meredith doesn't have to. Lisa says a lot. I think Meredith defends Lisa when she wants to. But even if she doesn't, that's between them. That's for Lisa to get upset about. But this is classic Heather. Now, she wants to turn Lisa against Meredith because Heather is mad at Meredith. But too bad because you've annoyed Lisa this season, so she's not going to do what you want.

Also, do you not remember the entire first hour of the reunion that you were screaming, tag team, you're tag teaming. All you do is stand up for each other. You tag team each other. Now, two seconds later, Heather's like, Oh, my God, they're horrible people. Meredith won't even stand up for Lisa. Oh, make up your mind, Heather. Oh, my God, that's so true.

Oh, my God. That's so annoying.

That's so annoying. I can't take it anymore. Heather is just too much. She's too much. I get what she's doing. She thinks she's just making drama for the show, but she's I'm trying too hard. At least follow your own rules. You make stupid rules everybody else has to follow to be a good friend or do whatever in your book, and you don't even follow your own damn rules.

I actually really do worry that Heather is the one who may really hurting this season. I've actually refrained from really leaning into that. I feel like we've talked about how it seems like Heather is self-producing a lot, and that's something that the audience feels. But really looking at this cast, I don't think the audience at large has too much of an issue with Meredith or Lisa. People, sometimes people hate Lisa because she's like, villain. But I don't think anyone's like, Oh, this season's bad because of Lisa. By the way, it's not a bad season. I'm just saying people are not saying that. People, they're not saying that about or Romwen or whatever. I do think that what's coming across is Heather. It seems like she makes these pivots that it feels like what is, whether this is true or not, intention over impact. What's coming over to us is a sense that Heather is making these pivots to have big moments on the show. She's trying to have big Salt Lake City moments, and it's not coming across as authentic, and the audience is picking up on that, and therefore, we're getting pushback on things, the whole thing that we're about to get into with this airplane.

When we watched that episode where they went to Valtors and they spent 40 minutes of the episode having a confrontation, I loved that episode. I thought that was amazing. I thought it was amazing that we had this up and down, very funny confrontation about the airplane thing. I was shocked that when I went on to social media later that night, a lot of people were like, Oh, enough about the airplane. I'm sick of the I don't want to hear about the airplane. I think that people would not have had that reaction if they had not felt like on some level, they were being manipulated by Heather Gay. I think if they felt like it was an organic interrogation, which it may have very well have been, but the fact that it felt a bit like it was a manipulation for the sake of the TV show, people pick up on that, and they don't like it, and they don't want to be subjected to it too long. I think it's a real problem that they have to start dealing with.

You Yeah, because if you look at all of it, it's pretty much Heather controlling the whole season, which is what they get mad at people for doing. It's like the Lisa Van der Pomp and the blah, blah, blah, blah. It's constant just forcing stuff to happen instead of letting stuff just happen. I mean, you've got Lisa, Meredith, you've got all these crazy people on this cast. It can just happen by itself. You don't have to force it. It makes me fucking crazy about her. Then we go to Angie, Bronwyn, and Mary talking in a dressing room, and Angie's Lisa's being strange today. I mean, wow, she's being mean, which, I mean, that part doesn't surprise me, but it's more than just that. I mean, she's… And Bronwyn's like, Well, I think she's trying to stay calm, which is absolutely disgusting. And she keeps saying we're speaking over her. And when she's notorious for speaking over people. It's like she got over herself a little. She got herself a little like, This is how I'm going to handle myself today, and I'm going to just be calm, and I'm going to stick to it no matter what, and we have to destroy it.

I'm like, Okay, so now you're mad that she's too calm. You people, I Then we go to Meredith and Lisa, and Lisa's like, How do you think today is going so far?

And Meredith's like, Well, I think you're doing great, and I think you're holding your own. I think your screaming has been wonderful. In the next segment, Why don't you blink a lot? I think blinking is really effective.

What was your favorite part? What was your favorite part of me? Do you want an autograph? You know what? We should get screenshots from your favorite part, and you could post it on your social. You should do that. Thank you so much for watching me on the reunion. I appreciate your support, I can't point to anything specific that you done really well.

I think your elbow looks great today, so that was a big win. Oh, my God.

Thank you so much. Big win. Thank you so much. Blake said the same thing. Just generally, yeah. Okay, but I'm doing a good job. Here's the thing. Now we're going to have to talk about the plane ride, and I think we just have to be prepared to back each other because we both know the truth, and you can't argue with the facts. The facts are they don't serve peanuts on the airplane because Heather gave a pussy now. She can't be around peanuts. Let's just hammer on that. Hammer on that.

We have the facts, and we'll get the old ducks in a row. At this point, I actually… Well, okay, so Crazy Rich Asians is about crazy rich Asians, and a girl wants to marry a boy, and in the end, they get into some planes, and they fly into enemy territory. They play dominoes. One of them gets shot down, and then they get rescued by the other one, and then they get out of there, and everyone's great. Goose's son is happy again. Exactly. Crazy Rich Asians. Okay, let's do this. E.

T. Goes back in a bicycle. Okay, we've got it. We've got it.

When they leave Asia, the dinosaurs are left there by themselves, and they will do no more harm to anyone. Crazy Rich Asians.

By the time Richard Gere marries her, she's not a hooker anymore. Okay, we've got it. Send it to print.

Yeah, send it to print, but I do have to say, it's going to be very important for me to share to the women. I was very emotional watching the movie because at the moment of the wedding when she took the ring and threw it in the volcano and destroyed it once and for all, and the world was seen, I got a little swept up in a motion. No, wait, you went too far.

That's Real House Lies at Potomac. That's Real House Lies of Potomac. Come back. Come back to the Five and Die, Meredith Dean. All right. Meredith Dean. Okay, so we come back to the set, and Meredith is just staring at something. Barry is like, What? What are you looking at? She's like, Is that cheese real? That's the way that she's staring at it. You're not really going to beat the Benzo allegations this way. She's just like, I don't know if the cheese is real.

She has intense feta suspicion. I don't know about that. That doesn't look like authentic feta cheese.

I don't think so. I can't tell if it's real or I don't think. Lisa says, according to these notes, It's probably sprayed. I thought she said, It's probably swayed. I went into a wholesale spin of like, Is there now swayed fake food? There is.

Swayed fat out. Yeah, swayed fat out. Don't get water on it. It's really fashionable. Yeah. Welcome back.

Welcome back to the Real Outside of Zola Lake City Reunion. I'm exhausted. I'm Andy Cohen, and I have children. Okay, let's talk about Mary's Faith Temple Pentecostal Church, sponsored by TLC. Mary, let's look at great clips of Mary being adorable and not ribbing off poor people this season.

Here we go. Clips of Mary giving at her church, Mary with her son, Mary giving everyone sage advice, et cetera. All right, Mary, I loved hearing you preach. Did anyone ever get injured by that exposed nail in your pew? I've been curious all season.

Well, Andy, anyone who did is no longer in the church and is now buried someplace. We're not talking about that right now, Andy.

She talks about her son, and she says the reason why he got put in jail is because he went over to his wife, or now ex-wife's house, and she had filed a restraining order against him, but he still went back anyway. He basically got thrown in jail because of that.

He He was saying that he was going back because he felt that he was saving the girl from the parents, and Mary is delusional. That's crazy. I don't even know why he thought that. This has been going on for a long time. There was stories that the son was, I don't think, arrested, but there was a warrant out for Mary or something. Remember last year or a couple of years ago? Because this girl was underage and ran away from home, apparently, and moved into Mary's house. The parents were trying to get the kid back. It was crazy. I guess that's why Robert married her, so that she could legally not be... I don't know. I'm just putting things together. I don't know the truth. But putting all this together, it's just nuts. This whole story about Robert He was crazy. He went over. It's stalking. They had a restraining order. He kept going anyway. He got thrown in jail. Then we find out they tased him, and she's crying, which it's always sad to see someone crying over stuff like this. But the story also nuts. She's crying, and then she's like, But I'm happy.

I'm in a good place. I'm like, I don't think you are, but I wouldn't blame you if you're not, because this is sad and crazy. She goes through this whole thing. She's just happy that she's safe. He's like, So are you talking to him? She goes, Oh, yeah. I talk to him every day. He's like, Do you go visit him? She goes, No, I'm not going to the jail. Gross. But I won't even go to a circle K. You think I'm going to go to a No.

But basically, she's like, I don't want to see my child in that way. I think it's too much for her to see him behind the glass incarcerated. But they have conversations. He speaks to her every day, and she's preaching to him and trying to get him through it and stuff. She's really hoping that he will be scared straight. Robert senior hasn't visited yet, but he talked to him on the phone, and basically, Robert Jr. Asked for some books and everything. Then Barry is like, Well, Heather, maybe I'll send him your book. He said he just wants to read, read, read. He also said he needs a better toilet. So you have a stack of your books?

Okay, you can carve them. He needs better toilet paper, Heather. You have any free books? She goes, I'll send him my book. I'll send it to him. That's easy. I mean, there's a chapter in it about you. He'll love it. Just ask him to put it on his jail socials. That would be great. That would be great. Nobody wants your book, and nobody wants it in jail. Okay? So Mary's like, Wow. Okay. Andy Did you read Heather's book?

And she's like, No.

Is it real? Is that a thing that really happened? They gave Heather a book? Yes, Mary. She had a book. There's a chapter about you. She goes, Oh.

She's like, That's nice. Yeah, I was sorry to hear about, by the way, your mom's passing. Do you have any regrets? She's like, No. But they've been estranged for 20 years. She's like, Whatever. Then Andy's like, By the way, there's a documentary series is coming out that says, It's examining your church, and we have a write-in. The Mrs. Mandelkir says, Why does that guy with a talking head have such a bad shirt? They keep showing him over and over again in the documentary Mary. Can you comment on that? Can I have to comment on this woman's disapproval of her son's shirt in the documentary?

Well, let me tell you, nothing in that was true except that statement from the mama. Just kidding. I didn't think her shirt was bad. I liked her shirt You tell Mrs. Mandelgeer, this is not the time. This is the time for parades, okay? This is a Ben parade. She's like, Oh, when he says, Yeah, and I know that your sister is participating, and the trailer alleges that your kink is money and that your congregation sees you as a God. Anything you want to say to that? She turns to Whitney, she goes, You're the one who said that. We see a flashback to 2021 when Whitney's like, Meredith, Mary's congregation believes her to be God. Mary is like, And it hurt me. It definitely hurt me. But I've been through a lot, so just add it to the pile of things that hurt me, Andy. Just add it to the pile. Well, it's ironic. I'm sorry, but how they did not play the clip. Mary gets away with so fucking much with this new, improved personality. I love the new, improved personality. I even like the old personality. I think she's been funny the whole time she's been on this show.

I root for Mary, but they're whitewashing this whole thing, or like, watering it down, I guess, is a better term, because they could have shown the clip of Mary yelling at the congregation, being like, I didn't get anything for my... I didn't get enough for my birthday. What are you, a bunch of poor people? I don't want to be around a bunch of poor people yelling at her congregation. I mean, just videos like that are damning enough. They could have at least played some stuff like that. She's getting off too easy, I think.

Andy is like, Well, it's ironic because fans of this show on Fancy, you were like, Leave her alone. We don't want this. I mean, that had to be gratifying for you. And Mary's like, Yeah, it felt good. Thankful for that, but they'll see the truth. Okay. Lisa and Whitney, any comments about the cult rumor resurfacing about Mary's church? Do you want to revive this right now? Because we had to pretend like we were past it. But now let's get back into it. And Whitney's like, No, no. I stand on the side of I'm glad to see people standing up for Mary and supporting her. I feel that they're doing this. I'm sorry, Whitney. I can't hear you from behind that logo. Can you move your head just a little bit to the left? It's all a little muffled sounding behind there.

I'm sorry. Can you hear me now? Winter Olympics coming soon. Peacock. Lisa's like, Well, here's my opinion. Told you so. You know what? It's old news. I wish it weren't coming out now because I've already said it. It's like, Why are you copying my story lines? That's what I have to say to TLC. Stop copying me. Stop it.

So Andy's basically like, Why has this stuck? Why has this messaging stuck? Mary's like, Well, I think it's because the policies and the rules and the different things that our church does, and they're not used to Pentecostal churches in Utah, and they're not used to a black churches in Utah. I just think they have just no idea. They're just confused.

They're not used to seeing preachers scream at people for more expensive purses on their birthday. I mean, fucking stupid country. Get over it. And Addy's like, Well, coffee is love on Twitter said, Mary was right about Mary Meredith not sticking up for Lisa on the yacht trip. Okay, so we're done with all the church stuff. Yeah, that was crazy. She got off easy on that one, so good for her, I guess. Mary was right about Meredith not sticking up for Lisa on the yacht trip. Meredith, what's your version of sticking up for your friend? She's like, Well, listen, I mean, I'm her friend, so I never read the suit. I just heard from her about it, so I couldn't really compare what they were saying about the suit because I didn't know I'm not going to say anything about the suit.

Yeah, Meredith and I are great friends, and I just don't think like… I mean, now you are. Wait, what did you say?

What did you say, Mary? I said, Now you're good friends. Now you're good friends. No, no.

We were always good friends, and we had a fall out for a minute.

Oh, really? When you called her a whore and you said that she slept with half of New York?

Okay, do you want to go through the list of everything? Everybody's called Meredith, or are you just going to fix it on mine? Because I'm a motherfucking of hearing the same goddamn thing on repeat. Okay, I'm done.

I'm done. Do not say goddamn to me.

Do not say goddamn to me. I normally don't. I normally don't, especially when I'm near Ben and Blake, I would never say things like that. But I'm so frustrated. I'm so frustrated. Wait, sorry. Frustrated. However the fuck you say that word, it's not a hard word to say. We're not asking you to say, like, you know, the Montecaucus or something. We're not asking you to say Focaccia. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating.

Well, it was pretty significant. I mean, it took you two years to be able to come back together. I'm here just like, Well, it was us all four years ago, and we've moved on. So why isn't everybody else moving on? Why?

Well, because I have to say, as a viewer with children, it permeates my thoughts that when I watched the two of you, that the two of you were able to get to the other side about it. I'm trying to give nice spin to be like, Isn't that great? But what I'm really saying is, What the hell is wrong with you that you could forgive such a thing?

The funny part is that everybody is sitting here repeatedly calling me a grudge holder, but no one can understand why I'm not holding a grudge. Now, how does that make any sense, Andy?

That's what's really hypocritical. Mary's like, Well, it's just hard to understand this. Yeah, well, I've moved on from things, too. I moved on. One time, they opened up a new Wendy's, so I started going to that one, and I was like, Sorry, old Wendy's. I have to move on from the one on route 16, and now I'm on the one on route 17. I move on. It's not that hard.

I can do it. I'm going to move her on, her, Andy, and that's just the truth. All right, then why was I criticized that I was a grudge holder when I was upset? Well, I think that it's great that you've moved on, but I marvel at it. Okay, but Andy, aren't you the one constantly saying, Guys, we need to leave here with a resolution? We can't just leave here fighting. Now it's four years later, why do we have to fight about the She's a whore in New York thing again? Why? Mary is like, Well, it is great, I guess. Lisa is like, Well, Lisa, why are you obsessed when… Wait, Lisa, were you surprised when Mary took your side? And she's like… And Mary says, Lisa doesn't care. Lisa is all about Lisa, and that's it. She probably doesn't even know what you're talking about right now. It just cuts to Lisa blinking. She's like,.

Angie just starts laughing. She's like, She doesn't even look like she does. She does no idea. Lisa's like, No, I know. I'm marveling at what you're saying right now because Andy just said the word marvel, so I'm saying Marvel. I don't want to denigrate the word Marvel, but it is a bit of a denigration. I'm just like, Marveling right now. Can I Marvel? It's just a big Marvel moment. I feel like I'm part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe because I'm Marveling so much right now.

Well, Andy asked you a question. Can you answer the question? And she's like, Yeah, well, answer it. She's like, I don't need you to tell me what to do and how to do it, Mary. Okay, well, then I need you to answer the question. I mean, that's why we… Mary, first of all, what is Mary so upset with Lisa about? Did they have a fight that I didn't hear this season? Why is she coming to this reunion pounding so hard on Lisa?

You know Mary, the smallest thing, you never know what's going to get, what the bee is going to be that's going to get under her bonnet. She's just not feeling Lisa right now today. Lisa's like, I'm being thoughtful and pragmatic about what I'm saying, and you should be happy because I'm thoughtful and pragmatic about what I'm saying. I'm marveling at my own thoughtfulness and pragmatism. It's just a lot to marvel at.

Well, I'm not happy about anything when it comes to you, Lisa. She's like, Oh, you know what? This is so out of the left field. It's so frustrating. Like, this is wild. It's Wild Mary. It's Wild Mary. Andy says, Well, did you even know that Mary took your side? First of all, Mary wasn't necessarily taking her side as much as she was coming for Meredith. Lisa was just a prop in that. But Lisa's like, Yes, you know what? I Do you know that Mary took my side, and I was so grateful, and I explained that to Mary. You know what? Mary and I have had numerous conversations over five years where I've apologized, okay? She doesn't move forward. She's the one who keeps taking us back. She goes, No, you don't move forward. I mean, you're the one who sat there with Whitney and said, My church was a cult. Mary, you're not moving forward. That was four years ago, five years ago. She's like, Did you forget that? That you went after me and had Cameron on the show? Did you forget that Cameron repurposed his house, mortgaged his house or whatever for your church?

There's a lot in that documentary that I just wish somebody was there to bring up because I feel crazy bringing it up. But Cameron, the guy that you allegedly had an affair with, you were like, You fucked your grandpa for that church. Why are we acting like this is all normal? I can't. If you're going to bring it all up again, then everybody needs to talk about it. There.

Well, she's like, You're the worst person when it comes to forgiving, and do you remember everything? You dwell on it and you get mad, and then you tell it to the press, and you tell it to people, and you're at Bravo Con, and you're talking about Bronwyn, you're talking about negative. You live in the negative train, okay? There's a train with a dining car, and it's called the Negative Train, and they have no food, and I'm just trying to help you out. She's like, I don't need your help.

I don't need your help. How is it trying to help her out, coming for her all the reunion? I don't get this logic. She's like, Well, you do need some help. She goes, Well, not yours. Well, you need someone's help because you're dark. You're very dark, Lisa. You married your grandfather to steal a church from your mother, okay? Who are you calling dark?

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