Transcript of #3169 RHOP S10E15 Part One: Kemo Sobby

Well, hello, and welcome to What's What Happens.

I'm Roni, and that is Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

Hi. How's it going?

Good. What are you doing? Good. How's your Monday going so far? Welcome back to Los Angeles.

Thank you. It feels wonderful to be back here. I'm just really enjoying the warm air and the LA of it all. It feels great to be back. How's your Monday going?

Good so far. Don't ruin it. Just kidding. It's going good. Had a great weekend. It was my friend Suna's birthday, so that was fun. Did that. Watched a lot of Bravo, watched a lot of other stuff. You finally watched Heated Rivalry. How did you feel about that?

I finished Heated Rivalry. Well, you know, I'm a total Scott Hunter convert. That episode number three, wow. I was like, Oh, my God. I love it. I loved episode three. I thought the rest of it was pretty boring. I'm not going to lie. Everyone was like, It gets so much better in episode 5 and episode 6. I was like, I am dying a slow death watching this. I'm not going to lie. Every time Scott Hunter was on the screen, I was like, Yes, the show is amazing. Then when he'd leave, I'd be like, Okay. I tried. I don't know. I thought there were some really sweet moments, and I appreciated the evolution of their relationship over the course of the show. What was so funny is the guy who plays Ilia, I then saw him do an interview with Seth Meyers. In real life, he's like, Oh, my God, we had so much fun doing the show, and it was really fun. Oh, my God, we didn't even know how to skate. We were like, I was like, This is the same guy. I was like, That guy is give him an Emmy. He did a great job.

He's apparently doesn't, doesn't even speak Russian natively. So I was very impressed. I think, I think for me, the issue just was that, you know, poor Hudson Williams, like, bless his heart. I just felt like, felt like he dragged the show down. I'm not going to lie. I have to say it. I mean, I felt, I just felt like, I know that- He was playing, he was playing a, of a boring, robot person.

I know. Which I know that he did very well.

Bless his heart. I mean, I know that apparently in the books, his character is actually on the spectrum and is supposed to have some issues with emotional resolution or whatever, but I felt like…

No, I didn't know that.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know if that really- I think they might have mentioned that. That would have brought it home, probably.

I felt like…

It would have made more sense. Not in a mean way, but just the way he was acting. It seems like if you told me that that's what he was going for, I would say, Oh, yeah, I get it. He did a good job. I think he did a good job. I thought of him as repressed, just repressed and shy, which I think he did a good job. Listen, you're going to get a sports nerd. I don't know what the reality of that is. You know what I mean? I don't know how real, how charismatic I expected him to be. I loved it, though. I just loved it. So you just shut your goddamn.

It was sweet.

Here's something I'll say is I love that it's like so many women into gay sex now. It cracks me up. My niece, she is 17. She just turned 17. She's like, Oh, my God, uncle, I'm so into heated rivalry in the books. I was like, Oh, my God. If it's like that on TV, what are the books? I mean, the books must be just pure porn. I was like, Well, enjoy the butt sex. I mean, what the hell?

I wonder if the books also-I don't know my line. Describe. I wonder if the books describe the sexual activities where it's something like, Ilea moves out of the bed just so the sheet happens to cover his groin. I mean, every single thing, the amount of… The way that they would move to not show any nudity was hilarious to me. But I do love what the show- I mean, I get that.

That's how I move in my house, too. Even for myself. I'm walking, I'm like, Oh, there's a mirror coming up. There's suddenly a plant in front of me.

I love what the show did for us guys, though. I think it's great. I love that it's, for some people, it's like normalizing us. I think that's very important. I think the show is very important. Again, I loved the Scott Hunter stuff. I just, I don't know.

I mean, it was normalizing. I can't lie.

Yeah, exactly. But like that. Like, when you say, Oh, my God, my niece is, you know, watching gay sex. It's not some freak show, you know? And so, you know. I did think that they were... I think the show got better as it went along, but I also felt like... Yeah, that... Yeah, I struggled a little bit. I can't lie. I know this will get me a certain amount of heat. I think that Dumois sassed off about the show, and then the show's creator was very unhappy with her. I'm not saying that I have any story like Dumois.

I was going to say, I think we're safe.

I'm bracing for backlash. I accept it. I accept it. It did not-well.

It did not totally Giselle doesn't hear about this because she is not very happy. Someone you don't want backlash from is Ms. Giselle. Jesus. So let's get into some Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10, episode 15, The Rocky Road to Gay Butt Sex and Hockey. The Rocky Road to Sisterhood. It is the Colorado trip. We're back with Angel. Angel, Colossal, Colossal failure. Colossal failure. Oh, my gosh. This week, open, and it got even worse.

I almost felt bad for her, honestly, in this episode. I did.

I did feel bad for her.

I felt, on the one hand, that Giselle's fury was justified, but also felt like at a certain point, you've got to... This woman is apologizing, and you can see she's mortified. At some point, you've just got to let it out and then just... You got to move on, Giselle. I don't know. I felt, I felt, this is the first time I actually felt bad for Angel. All the other times this season, I felt like this is Angel making her own, making her own bed. But this time, I think Angel made her bed and didn't realize the room had no running water. And I just, I felt a little bad for her. I'm not going to lie.

Yeah, I feel bad for Angel a lot. I mean, the last episode actually was when I stopped feeling as bad for her because those guys at the party and the whole way that they treated her, that really pissed off. I did not like that, and I feel like she was a part of that. So I didn't like that. But I was back to feeling bad. I mean, Giselle, just kick her while she's down. Why don't you? My God. It's like, enough is enough with her. It was great seeing Quad let Giselle have it. And she didn't let her have it, but she was just honest with her and watch what happens live. And I loved it. I loved it, Ms. Quad. She's alive. She's alive.

But you know what? We'll talk about that on Crappy Hour tonight, which is happening at 5: 30 Pacific Time, 8: 30 East Coast Time. By the way, we also have Amazon Live today, and that's going to be at 4: 00 West Coast, 7: 00 East Coast. Come join us. I know many of you have the day off today. Happy Martin Luther King Day, by the way. Yes. Come join us. If you're not normally able to join us, come join us today. Sorry, a little plug. Yes. A little plug because I... Sorry, I talked so much about heated rivalry. We forgot our heated shilling for ourselves. I feel bad now, by the way. I literally feel bad that I singled out Hudson Williams because he seemed so sweet, and I singled him out for dragging the show.

He's fine. He was hanging out with Ricky Martin all weekend. I just saw it in the…

Okay, good. I don't feel bad anymore. You know what? Sometimes it feels like we have to have gay solidarity sometimes, and I'm like, Oh, gosh. Am I being self-loathing? Am I being a self-loathing gay? I did think there were some very sweet scenes.

For fuck's sake, we are on to Potomac. You do not need to stop the hordes of the heated rivalry people. You're allowed to think some shit is boring. Okay? You're allowed.

It was boring.

This is America. We pay taxes, and we are allowed to think gay things are boring just as much as we think straight things are boring. Okay, good. Being gay does not absolve you of boringness. But I love all of you. Call me. You need to drive a recast. Love you. If you need a chunky, insecure person's storyline, call me. Okay, so we are Colorado, day two, back to the truck with Angel, K, and Tia. They were in this truck a lot. We could have had an entire season of people just driving in the truck because everything's an hour and a half away from each other. No, seriously. Just car conversations with Angel. Angel's like, Okay, everybody is talking about doing a sleepover, but I needed to check with Bobby first because he's watching. I mean, yes, dads watch their kids. I watch my kids. It's not like I said, he's babysitting the kids because we see a flashback of Monique being like, Watching your kids. He's a father. You should. ' Now, if he had said, I have to babysit the kids, ' that's something. But I think him saying like, Listen, I've been with these damn kids all day.

' No. I don't want to, or, 'Get me some help, ' or whatever, it would be a different thing. But she's like, I'm just saying he's watching the kids. What's the big deal? And commenting on it is your crossing boundaries, and you don't know me like that. And he's like, Oh, yes. Well, there's someone with a decent bedroom. Let me just say, let's not do that. I love hot water.

Yeah, I think it's okay to check in with your spouse, your significant other, to make sure, be like, Hey, I'm going to be doing this thing. I just wanted to get a temperature check because you don't want them to ever feel like you're just taking them for granted. You're just going to go off and do your own thing. But Angel, the way she carries herself is that it always seems like she's a little afraid of disappointing Bobby, or she's a little afraid of it all falling apart. Whether that's true or not, hard to say, but that's the way she is at least. That's the vibe she's giving out. When Monique said, Oh, that's just what a dad does. That dad will take care of the kids. That's what dads do. And Angel is like, Oh, she puts her hand up. Don't push it. Don't push it. It's like, Whoa, okay, fine. I mean, yeah, maybe it's a little bit of an overstep for Monique to say that. I think Monique is also testing Angel to see if Angel has the same reaction that Monique would have had a few years ago, but I don't know.

It's a little bit of a gray area for me on this front.

Yeah. Well, also, there's an argument that you're at work, so your husband will be watching your children because this is your job. It's not your job to go home at 5: 00. This is a cast trip, and you're hosting the cast trip, you will be coming to the Benjamin party, so your husband will be watching the kids. But I think they have a good read on her saying, Look, I don't know if I want to be around you, people. You're all mean to me and make me cry. I'll see how it goes tomorrow, and then I will use my husband as an excuse. Because, listen, marriage is not easy. You have to wake up next to somebody after they've been farting at you all night long, getting up in the middle of the night to pee, coming back into bed, ruffling all the blankets, bringing the cold air back into the bed. You have to put up with a lot when you're married, I'm guessing. You should be able to use that as a human shield. That's what I'm saying. If she wants to use Bobby in that way, that is her God-given right.

That's what's happening here. I think that she has just given herself the opportunity to have an escape valve. I think also So not only is this her work, but they are promoting her Wanderland business by coming up there. She's the one who's putting their brand on TV every single week on this show. If Bobby can't look after the kids for one night, I think that's disappointing, personally. But I think you're right. I think it's about something larger than that. I think it's that she just wants to have the opportunity to get away from this group if things don't go well in Aspen.

Because we saw Bobby, and he was like, Well, do you want to go? Well, go ahead. She's also- You know what I'm saying? This whole, Will Bobby let me? Is all bullshit because he's like, Okay, but if you don't want to go, then don't go. What do you want me to say? Do what It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

She's also a no person. She is always going to be the person where if you say, Hey, do you want to go get dinner on Thursday? She'll say, I think I'm busy, but let me get back to you. She's always going to come at you with a no, and then she'll revise to a yes because she never wants to be booked. She never wants to be programmed or locked down. I know people like that. It drives me nuts, personally, as someone who to make plans. It feels actually disrespectful after a while. Just say yes to me. But I think I get the vibe from Angel that that's just what she does. She's never going to commit until she feels comfortable or she's too afraid to commit right away, maybe because she is a slow processor. We've seen she's a slow processor by the fact that someone will say something to her, and then a week later, she'll be mad about it. But I think that's just the way she operates. She likes to give herself some buffer space to think about it before she actually commits to something.

Yeah, but then she loses me saying things like this. If I let them in on my relationship with Bobby, which is sparkling and wonderful, they better consider it a privilege. Shut up. Just be quiet.

Wow.

Consider me less privileged. I don't need the privilege.

Keep it. We don't all need to have to be privileged in this life. Yeah, I don't need it.

Now, we go to the other car with Stacy and Jazzy, or another car. Stacy's like, When you have kids, you have two beautiful blessings in your boys, you're going to learn. That's the easiest excuse. You use them as an excuse, or you use them as something that you resent for not having the career that you could have had if you hadn't had them. It's her right as mother's.

Jassie's like, Yeah, I know. I'm the one who sets up the babysidders in our realm. Okay, realm's a bit of a strange use.

Jassie's like, Oh, I totally get it. I call the babysitter's in our realm. Okay, realm's a bit of a strange use. Jassie's like, Oh, I totally get it. I call the babysitter's in our realm. It's rough. Do you know how rough it is scheduling babysitter's to take care of children? I do it all the time. Totally get it. In my realm. I'm a five-minute wag. Okay, I've been here five minutes.

Stacey's like, Yeah, I just don't know if I believe this about Bobby. Jazzy's like, I'm not believing it. She said she would have to talk to Bobby. No, you have to talk to yourself and feel like you are coming. It's so funny because Jazzy- If you feel like coming. It's funny that Jazzy's like, What the hell? Her vibe is like, What the hell with Angel right now when Jazz is the one who also then narced on the other conversation with Monique to Angel. So Jazzy is definitely playing both sides of the fence here, and she has not been clocked for it yet.

Yeah. So now the other car with Giselle, Monique, Wendy, and Ashley. Monique is like, Okay, well, look, I'm just making assumptions. I'm not saying her husband is a seven-foot-tall person that French presses her to death every night in bed. But these athletes, they make their money, and then they're like, I'm providing. Now you do everything else. I didn't speak on her marriage. I was only speaking on her, only her. My concern was for Angel, and just because I know the weight of that, pun intended, it was a lot of weight. It was a lot of weight. I know where that took me. I'm still expanding like something that was vacuum-packed. I feel like a pillow that was squashed and vacuum-packed and sent across the country and is still needing air to expand. That is how I feel.

I feel like a Casper mattress that just arrived in this box, and now you've taken it out, and people are looking at me being like, I can't believe a whole mattress fit in this box, but it's just me expanding.

I feel like a seahorse in a capsule that was put into water and is now expanding.

I feel like an air mattress that someone's sleeping on, but you're watching the footage in reverse. You can only make mattress references. Sorry, everyone.

I like how many of I love how many mattress references you have just in your back pocket. I'm just seeing so many flashes of your life. Like, whoa. Just running the hell out of the way the second you cut that. We've all been there with the internet mattress. It's like, wow, how did they do this? And you open it, and suddenly it's like, boom. It's like, it pops out at you and expands all over you.

It is very exciting, that moment. It's also very like, bulky and strange, and a lot has to happen.

It's terrifying.

It's terrifying. If you think about it, it's actually one of the scariest moments of my life. But Monique is… I like that Monique is saying… She's saying, basically, my experience with Chris was that everything revolved around him, and I had to be careful. He makes all the money, and then I had to get it to all his needs. Now, I don't know why she would think that about Bobby, just because they went to their house last night and Bobby didn't say hello and didn't stand up and didn't encourage his guests to stand up and didn't broker any friendly relations between the guests and the women. I I don't know why she would ever get the sense that everything revolves around Bobby. What a strange idea.

Yeah, the guys were rude, but I do have a thought on that, just that in a way, that was him showing solidarity with his wife. I think he's heard so much about these ladies being mean to his wife and just treating her like crap, and she's cried so much over it that he's like, Fuck all of you. I think it was incredibly rude and a stupid move on his part because it just makes him look horrible. But I think that he was like… I think that that was showing more solidarity than Chris ever showed.

Chris Bassett?

Yeah. I think that he was like, Oh, no. I have to say that Chris Bassett never showed solidarity. But I She's saying, I have to do everything. In my relationship, I had to do everything. The husband's in his own world, where I think in this one, you're seeing the husband actively stand up for his wife and be like, I'm not going to be nice to you people. You've been horrible to my wife. That's how I took it because Why else would they have acted like that? I mean, they were just assholes.

That's what I think as well, but I also think that's shitty because I think-Oh, I do, too. What you have… I'm not saying that… Neither of us obviously condone it. I think it's very clear that he's trying to have some protest. But I think it's like, What are you doing? You should be trying to set your wife up for success, and this is not going to be it. What you do is you're friendly, and then you talk shit afterwards, instead of just stand there and be rude. Then you know what that's going to do is get all the people who don't like Angel, just angel. Or not angrier, but more like...

Judgmental. You're adding fuel to their fire. You're adding fuel to their fire.

You're going to feel the shade.

Instead of being nice and contrasting, you show a contrast. We're nice, we're kind, we're opening, and they're still doing nothing but coming over here and starting drama with my wife. Instead of giving them ammo. Like, Oh, see? We said your husband was an asshole, and then here he is being an asshole.

Yeah. Or it's not even that you act nice, so that way they see that you're actually nice. What you do is you just act normal to show that you're totally unbothered by them and that they mean nothing to you. I think that's what you do. But if you're thinking, I'm going to show them that they mean nothing to us by literally not standing up for them, it's like, well, okay, well, you're clearly bothered and you're doing the most right now by doing the least. I thought that was such a terrible manifestation of disliking these women. That was just so wrong.

Monique is like, Well, in the past, I overextended myself, and I did too much, and then that caused me to lash out at the people that didn't deserve it the most. Then as an example of someone who didn't deserve it, we see 2017 of Giselle being in her kitchen, in Monique's kitchen, going, Oh, here comes the talker. Giselle was so She was so fucking rude in this episode. She was so rude when Monique came on the show. She was rude to her for no reason. It was Giselle. She's been doing this for years. She was being rude to her in her own home. Monique comes over and she's like, Oh, I can't stop talking. Don't be disrespectful on my home. Giselle says, You're aggressive. She's like, I'm not being aggressive. She's like, And it's not a good look. By the way, Giselle got kicked out that day. My only point in going over all this again is to say that maybe you lashed out at people who didn't deserve it. Giselle was not one of those people. Giselle, as I recalled, did deserve it. So please don't go back on that, editors.

Then we also saw the famous umbrella scene with Robin and all that. Then, of course, we saw Monique and Candice actually at the Hodown or wherever they were. This was the proceeding, the Drag her, whatever, Drag me, Drag me, whatever.

Oh, Drag you pregnant and all. Drag me, Monique. Drag me.

Monique is like, I just don't… I don't know what I know what the situation is, but a lot of what I'm seeing is broadly familiar. I said that so clearly, so apparently. Wendy tells me that the whole conversation got back to Angel already. We see earlier today that Wendy has told Monique, Yeah, Angel knows everything that we said in that car. They're like, so jazzy. Jazzy said it. Monique is upset because she's like, I would have liked to been the one to tell this to Angel.

Yeah. Now, Angel, in her car, is like, They don't know my husband, and they don't know our marriage, and they He hasn't spent time with us. All they know is that he doesn't know how to stand up sometimes. And I'm not going to answer. And Kieran is like, Yeah, I don't even think that's a conversation. She goes, Well, anyways, we're going to have a great day today. It's a new day. Everything's going to be great. Let's start this with some positivity. I'm taking the ladies in a private jet to Aspen. We're going to go to ChemoSabi. I'm giving them a taste of things that I love to do in Colorado that make me happy. Well, I hope you're ready to have trauma attached to all of these experiences because-Yes. This is not going to be a good day.

Yeah, it's going to be rough. Okay. Nothing good comes out of KimoSabis on Bravo, and Nothing good It seems to come out of private planes on Bravo anymore. So buckle up. Commercials. Here comes one right now. Then so we go back to the car with Giselle and Ashley, Monique, and Wendy. Wendy. Wendy is like, Well, I wonder what Stacey and Jazzy are talking about. And Jazzy was like, Nothing. Then we go over to them and Stacey's like, Well, I'm trying to convince Timo to buy me a chicken coop. Jazzy's like, You want a chicken coop? Yes. You know? So I can get fresh eggs for Arabella.

She's like, Yeah, I hear that dogs eat the chicken coups. She's like, Dogs eat chickens? The most shocking thing she's ever heard. I know. It's like reconsidering. Dogs, chickens. So Giselle in Giselle's car, she's like, Oh, come on, angel. We were rooting for you. Angel told us we were going to stay at her house number one. She had no intentions of us staying there. She didn't have intentions of us staying in the house altogether. Okay, but you're supposed to be Ms. Colorado, and you got us. You got in in every pocket. So what happened? And Giselle's just going off about how bad this was. And even in her 20s, when she didn't have any money, she did not live like this. She was at least able to shit, shower, and shave.

Yeah, Chazelle is really on one about this. I mean, I get it. You have no running water, and you're on TV, so you can't shower. You're afraid you're not going to look your best. You feel like you're going to get judged, you're going to be apart by all the Bravo people. So I get it, the frustration, and you're also elder statesman of the show and yada, yada, yada, and she's already annoyed. She's annoyed that Angel is going on about the catfish thing. She's annoyed that they're separated and that some people, the cool people, get to go to the nice house. There's that, too, that she didn't get picked for the nice house because you know that despite the fact that she's had a pretty bad relationship with Angel all season, she still expected to be put in the nicer house if there was an option. She's just absolutely furious about this whole situation.

Meanwhile, Angel's like, Oh, it's going to be a great day today. We're going to turn it around today, guys. Cut back to Giselle. Death, death to Angel, death to Angel. We go to the airport and we see the Falcon 900, the jet. It's $8,000 per hour, you guys. It's a big deal. The other ladies come and they're like, Okay, PJ. Everyone says hi and gets on the plane and all that good stuff.

Ashley's like, Well, we made it.

Not that you guys cared. Don't smell me. I didn't get to shower because we didn't have any water. Jazzy's like, Oh, God. She goes, Well, for Angel's just like, Well, good morning, ladies. I just want to say by saying, I'm sorry about your accommodations. And Giselle's like, Too late. Boo.

She is heckling. Too late.

Too late. Let me finish.

No, no, no, no, no, No, no, no, no. Let's not hear her out. Let's not hear her out. No, no, no.

No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. Too late. Too late. Okay.

Wait, what's the number that comes after one? Too late.

After one, after seven, two, eight. Just add an L in there. It'll make much more sense. Wendy's like, No one even said, Are you guys okay? No one said, Is the water back? No one even fake pretended to care and say, Hey, we can send an Uber, and if you want, we could send it to you guys, and you could come take a shower at my house. I mean, that's what a host would say. That's what a host would say. They'd also say, We'll be back in two and two. Two and two.

We haven't heard Jack shit from you. Absolutely no way on a trip with all these ladies. I would leave them high and dry with no water to wipe our ass, to brush our teeth, to do a goddamn thing. This is fucked up.

To flush a toilet. To flush a toilet. Wendy.

First of all, let me apologize. This is bad.

This is really, really bad. Oh, my God. This is when we find out it got even worse. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, they couldn't flush and everything. And so Angel's like, Well, let me apologize again. I mean, Angel is basically the... She's the store manager. She's like, This is the... I'd like to speak with the manager moment. This angel just has to be like, Well, let me be the first to apologize. We can give you store credit at the Airbnb. Here's the coupon. Can we give you a free dessert? What can we do?

No. She was like, Too late. You, by no means, you cannot apologize You couldn't even text. I'm sorry? She's like, Okay, maybe I should have reached out and asked them what they were doing. But I jumped into fixing mode, okay? I heard things were broken, and I wanted to rectify the situation. She's like, I've been up since the crack of dawn working on a solution. And Giselle's like, So have we. So have we. Our solution? Digging holes in the backyard, pooping.

And Ashley tries to jump in. She's like, You didn't call anybody, nobody. You didn't text anybody. She's like, No, you didn't. You're too busy. And you didn't either, Kierna. You're too busy. A pressa. So now Kierna is going to get some on the side here. And Kierna was like, No, I'm on my own ass. Let's start there. I am on my own ass. I'm trying to take photos of the landscape for my new picture frame.

Kierna also not really improving. No, I'm my own ass. Let's start there. Okay. So Tia was like, Well, I was just trying to process what she was saying, Leave me out of it. And just I was like, She's not saying shit. Tia's like, Well, they were upset with me, and rightly so. I mean, I woke up, I see angel panicking, she's crying, and that was my immediate need. Did I take for granted that I had water to shower in and also had water coming out of tears eyes that I could have showered in with the other ladies had nothing? Sure. But I was in the middle of an eggs benedict on the patio watching sprinklers. Sprinklers going. I just didn't have time to I'm sorry about the lady. Sorry.

When I saw the tears just streaming down, angel's face, I just went into panic mode. I just wanted to help her. Later, I found out those weren't tears. It was just the water left over from the shower that she had taken a third of the morning, actually. So You understand why I was distracted?

I was worried about the ladies. I said, Let's all sit in the hot tub and talk about it. We'll take showers and drink gallons of water.

We were very lucky. We had a professional come to the house to show us how to shave our legs, so we all took his hands doing it multiple times.

And Angel's like, Well, okay, I should have called you guys, but as soon as I was made… Wait. As soon as I was made aware of the problem, I began to try and find you guys a new house. And Jazelle's like, Well, Angel, I'm sorry, sweetie. I'm sorry, sweetie. Speech is over. And she's like, Or accommodations at the Four Seasons. And Jazelle goes, Don't you think I did that? I told all the girls, pack your shit. What we're not doing is standing in the projects. Because of angel.

This is not the project. It's not the project. Yes, it is. It's not the project.

Yes, it is.

While the heat was at 90 degrees all throughout the house. Oh, sorry. Ashley's like, The heat was at 90 degrees all throughout the house. Then Wendy's like, Yes. Monique woke up and her face was swollen. Stacey goes, Her face was double the size. A big, giant face. Look at her face now. Now, imagine it twice the size. Now, imagine it looking ugly and ridiculous. That was her.

Monique's laughing. She's like, Shut up. My God. And Stacey's like, Carl, you were looking crazy. I was trying to support you, but you were scaring me. You were like the monster under Arabella's bed.

Well, last night, ladies, I found out that there were issues in the what with the water pressure and the The issues were as well. While you guys were at my house, we sent an electrician over to that house, and we also sent the property manager over to that house to make sure all was well. I was informed that the water pressure was back up and that there weren't any issues with the well or the septic.

Okay, so she at least did something, right? But she was like, Okay, well, even if there was no water issues, you hadn't checked on us, and our asses are here because of you, and you are a horrible host, you're a horrible host. I She thought, I mean, she sends a property manager over, and they're like, Nothing's wrong. She's like, Okay, nothing's wrong, and went to bed. Meanwhile, it's like turning into an oven in there, and then the water completely goes out to the point they can't even flush. I mean, this is really bad.

I would love to find this Airbnb. I would love to see if there's reviews on it. We've never seen in the history of the Real Housewives such a bad Airbnb. We've never seen these issues before. So Kierna is saying that she's like, I've been on a lot of these trips before. Okay, I've been in bunk beds. I've had to share a bathroom, and we see clips of not amazing accommodations. And she's like, These ladies have been in the group longer than me, and this is not their first rodeo. Things happen. I get that's an issue, but we've had issues before. She's like, These people need to relax. Normally, I would actually be like, She's right. But with that, no running water, I think, is a big deal. I think that's worthy of frustration. I also think, though, at a certain point, I don't think Angel is BSing them. I don't think she's being elusive. I think she is genuinely mortified. I think this is not how she wants her brand as the Wanderland co-owner to look like they run a trip.

That's a whole other level where it's like she's supposed to be a vacation specialist, and this is not great.

I think that that's where Giselle is also going hard at her because she's like, This is what you do. I think Giselle is ready to just take her down and in any way and also take down her brand.

You know, but the thing with Giselle is you're sitting on a private plane that this lady has chartered as well. That's the other thing. It's $8,000 an hour, and you won't stop. I understand the being pissed, but Angel didn't know your heat was on and couldn't turn off. She didn't know that everything broke back down, but their point of, You could have called us to make sure, is also valid. That's a good point. You can't really stand up for Angel here. It's just that Giselle won't stop. She's getting worse and worse. This She's just fueling her to get worse. She just keeps going. Angel's like, Well, I found you alternate accommodations. Stacey's like, I feel like we should go where Giselle's going. When he's like, I'm going where Giselle goes. She's like, Well, where are we going? She goes, You know, ladies, I'm a Four Seasons girl, and I've called my Four Seasons people, and that is where we'll be going. Stacey's like, Oh, my God, the Four Seasons. I don't have to pay for that, right? I don't have very much money. I'm not going to deny it. Have you seen my outfits on the QVC?

Do you think that maybe one of Angel's things is that she doesn't like being wrong or she doesn't like being imperfect? Because I can imagine a world where Angel's whole thing is that she's saying, I didn't text because I was trying to solve it. Do you think that in her mind, she's saying, I don't want to text them and check in and things are bad. I don't have a solution for them. I want to check and be like, This is what the new plan is. I'm so sorry. It dovetails with how she treats Bobby in a certain way of like, I don't want to disappoint him. I want to make sure I do everything right. I want to know the full picture before I do something. I get the sense that maybe that's how she's operating, and that's actually to her detriment because people don't want her to be perfect. They want her just to be present. They feel like she's very guarded, and they I feel like she's not giving her her full self. Maybe that's what's going on with this group, with her.

Maybe, but why would she... She's probably afraid to call them. I mean, who does she have on her side over there? Literally nobody. No one likes her. I'm sure she doesn't want to call and be like, Hey, how are you doing? And then be like, This sucks. You suck. Everything sucks. She's just like, I'll call the property manager and make sure it's okay, and then I'll try and deal with them tomorrow. I think is in her mind. I don't think she knew that it had turned into the hell that it turned into. Then she mentioned earlier, she was like, And then I was thinking the Four Seasons, there's an alternate place. She was like, I called the Four Seasons. I don't know if she knew that Giselle had already called the Four Seasons, or if she was going to call the Four Seasons for them, or if that was what she had arranged or what was going on. But yeah, I think she was just like, Well, shit, I don't want to call Giselle. I'll just trust the property manager.

She wanted to have all… Yeah, I think she just wanted to have all her tools ready. That way, when she did reach out to Giselle, she could be like, I've got this all lined up. That way, there wouldn't be an issue. But in the process of doing that, she actually made it worse, unfortunately. They're all going to go to Four Seasons, as we all knew, because we saw that video of the cast at the Four Seasons earlier or last year. Angel is… She's done. They've just destroyed her. You know what? But now Now, they're going to go forward. Now, they're going to move forward on this plan and go up to Aspen.

Yeah. And Angel tries again because Giselle's like, This is the worst. In 10 years, we have been on some bad trips, but this is the Colorado, your number one. And Angel's like, Okay, well, it's going to be a great time in Aspen, though. So once again, everybody. And Giselle goes, Yeah, because of us, not because of you. Ron's like, Oh, God. Oh, God. And Angel says, Well, we're on this jet because of me. And Giselle Well, I would rather have running water than a jet. She goes, So like I was saying, it's like, Well, being able to wash my ass is more important than a jet, honey. She's like, Okay, well, listen, my intention was never for you to have a poor experience. I just don't want you guys to have a bad time on my watch. So, Too late. And Stacey's like, We already did. I hope we can have a great day, ladies. And Kieran goes, Can we toast? And Stacey goes, K, what do you mean, can we toast? What are you saying? Nobody wants to toast.

Kieran is like, Well, I'm just trying to really champion because I know this trip means a lot to Angel, and I just felt like Angel was taking a lot of cannibale, and I just wanted this to be a good time.

I apologize you ladies, for not reaching out to you.

So on behalf of the fact that I am your friend. And Jaz, he's like, Okay, how about we chose to Jazelle? Asha's like, There is no checking in. They are so mad, and they're still going. But Jazzy's like, No, I chose to Jazelle for getting us Four Seasons accommodations. Thank you, Jazelle, for finding us Four Seasons. They all cheers. And Angel is just like, damn, damn, that was rough. I mean, the poor thing. I mean, it's been a long time since I feel like we've seen someone get really raked over the calls like that on one of these shows. But that wasn't just like, oh, it was a fight. That was That was a thrash. That was a thrash. Yeah, because normally when someone, when there is a clash on the show, someone has like, I'm right. No, I'm right. But in that case, Angel knew she was wrong. So it wasn't like a clash. It was just a pending over and taking it. It was a thrashing. I felt bad for her. I felt bad.

Now, we see footage from Ashley's film. We're flying over the Rocky Mountains, and Jazzy tells us that for 11 years, she was a flight attendant. She's done some domestic international. She's been to a lot of places. She's a low-key professional tripper, guys. Giselle is saying, Yeah, Stacey was sharing hearing that she was bonding with me and Ashley, and we're in this Colorado air, we're in high elevation, so my eyes are super dry. She says that she took her contacts out and she put them on her plate on the side. She's like, Yeah, I didn't want to put them in my napkin. I mean, who's a proper napkin? I don't want to take my contacts out and put them on the table. I mean, who does that? So I put them on the side of my plate. Let's just say my poop was seeing better this morning. My poop was seeing better. She ate her contacts.

She ate her contacts. Hence the 2020 booty hole. So they land in Aspen, and Angel's like, Welcome to Aspen, everyone. I hope the flight wasn't too bumpy for everyone. Too late. Too late. Okay, Giselle. It wasn't that bumpy, though. Too late, it was very bumpy. It's bumpier when you're not clean.

We're going in sprinter vans right away. I would sprint away from this vacation to a private whiskey lounge. Oh, can I wash my ass with whiskey?

We already have some food We picked out, and then we'll go right ahead to Kimo Sabe. More like, Kimo, too late because I'm not washed. Okay, Jazelle, that one doesn't even make sense. Too late. I already said it. Okay.

Too late, too late, sabe, loser. Okay, guys, let's have an amazing day. So they get off, and Angel is just trying to recover. She's like, Okay, well, every celebrity hits Aspen. It's just so fun. There are so many celebrities here. Rihanna, Kevin Costner, Kylie Jenner. Everyone comes to Aspen to play an angel. Too late. Too late. Too late.

Well, it is funny because that One Republic, I think, is from Colorado, and I wonder if they go to Aspen and maybe they sing their seminal song, It's too late to apologize. It's too late. Wow. I don't know how I pulled a One Republic reference there, but You did it. I don't know. Sometimes weird times, right? They're in Aspen, and it's nice. They go to a place called Stranehans Whisky Lodge, and they all sit down. They're going to have some whiskey. They have everything. They have a strange bar menu. They have whiskey, they have vodka. They don't have beer. They don't have wine. They don't have tequila. Ashley is like, What? She's losing her mind by the strange selection. I was like, Oh, God.

Because everywhere they go on this trip is something they can't have. I was like, Okay, welcome to fancy restaurant where you can only have what we're telling you to have. I was like, What the hell? Can I have water?

It's a whiskey Lodge. It's a whiskey Lodge. I think it's okay if a place is called the Whiskey Lodge, that it's going to be primarily whiskey drinks. But Ashley is like… But Ashley doesn't seem too mad because then she starts talking about, well, once whiskey gets hold on the girls, we all go crazy. So we get flashbacks. They came in Islands where we see Karen drunk on whiskey doing that thing. I know how to… You need to know how to control your manskis. Do it like this. She does this thing with her tongue, and everyone just is like, Oh, Karen, too much, too much.

For the most part, these whiskey flashbacks of like, Oh, look at the ladies getting crazy on whiskey, was Robin. We got a lot of Robin being… Because Robin really does change when she gets some whiskey. Ashley's like, I should have brought my flask. They're making small talk, and Monique is like, Oh, so is this somewhere where you and Bobby come? She's like, No, no. We go the Opry Ski area. We go to this hotel called Little Nell. It's pretty famous. I don't know if you've ever heard of it.

It's a small hotel.

She was on Give Me a Break. She was on Give Me A Break.

It's a... Her mother hotel was raised in the wilderness and didn't know about human civilization or didn't have any language. This is the smaller hotel version of that one, Little Nell.

It's a baby Jodie Foster.

It's a great, great little hotel. Hard to understand it, but give it some time, and it'll make sense of it. So Stacy's like, Well, are you guys skiers? She's like, No, not me and Bobby, but we're not good at that at all. She goes, Well, guys, again, I just want to say I know that you're not willing to accept my apology, but once again, I am so sorry for the accommodations. Okay, Giselle, you can say it. Three, two, one.

Too late. Too late. Thank you. But I take full responsibility, and I wanted it to turn out differently. They order drinks, and stuff starts coming out. Wendy's like, Whoa, these are some Aspen deviled eggs? Are they different than regular eggs? Stacey's like, There's quail eggs on top. Look at that.

Talk about yokes. Talk about YTS. Talk about mayonnaise. Talk about mustard. It's a devled egg. Oh, yeah.

Well, they don't taste like your Auntie's devled eggs. Monique's like, So, Jazzy, did you tell Angel the conversation that I had in the car with you all? She's like, Yeah. Why? She's like, Because I was concerned. Wendy's like, Oh, she was concerned about everything that happened when we said, We want to have a sleepover, and you had stated that you needed to talk to Bobby about it. That's what happened.

Then Monique says, Basically, I noticed certain similarities between you and I. My concern was that I don't want you to get to a point where you explode, but sometimes when you're doing so much and even your partner is contributing, sometimes it's still not enough. Then you get in girl circles and you're hard and you're defensive and you're ready to attack and defend because of what you're really already experiencing in the house that they may not be privy to. If you've not been vulnerable in that way, I know what it took for me to get to the moment of awakening. I just don't want to see you in that position. So Angel is like, Okay, so you're wondering if that's also my lived experience? Because I'm going to say lived experience a lot for the rest of the episode going forward. Is that what you're saying, my lived experience? I think that Monique doesn't know anything about my marriage. My husband pampers me to the nth degree by not getting me things and paying our rent in Potomac. This is a depleted woman that you see here. This is a fulfilled woman who's very afraid to ask her husband if he'll babysit the kids for a night.

I think she should leave me out of it. I have abundance and happiness.

This is a woman who sits on an air conditioner while people are meditating. Okay. Does that seem like a scared person to you? And Angel is like, Okay, no, that was just me saying I'm going to check in with him. It's like a respect thing because they're his children, right? And they're my children, but I still use the verb watch. You know what I mean? Because that is a verb. He needs to watch the children. That's the thing that people do. Jazzy's like, Well, I told you that was concerning for me, too. And he is like, Well, that's what I use with Rob when he's watching the kids. What are you supposed to call it? He's tolerating the children. I'm sorry, but I'm going out tonight. Could you tolerate the children? Thank you.

Well, I use the word watch loosely because the last time that Rob Cotycert watched the children, 65 teenagers showed up at our house and someone threw up a red things on the carpet. I don't know how well he's watching the children, but that's the way he is.

The only way he got to watch the children that night was the next day over a police cam video after the police were called to my home for child drunkenness. I had one swinging off a fan, I had one vomiting on the ground, I had my son making up with the mirror. So it was quite a night.

Jazzy is saying, You know what? This was all concerning because the prior conversation where Monique shared her experience, and she was wondering if the correlation could be also what she went through. Then Jazzy goes, As a wag myself, there are a lot of wags that have lost who they are and the idea of becoming a wife. I, of course, am not one of those. I haven't lost myself in it. I just now use interesting language to I'll describe the timelines of my husband because I'm a wag and I need to protect him. But anyway, I haven't lost myself in the wag pursuit.

I've not lost myself. In fact, any man that had children on me during our relationship would totally be fine, even if he wasn't a sports star. I'm not lost myself at all. Where am I? Where am I right now? And Giselle's like, So you knew you were coming to Colorado. Why couldn't you have childcare taken care of? So this is not even a conversation. And she's like, I do have I have our babysitter until nine o'clock, and we have her there tonight. And since we must know the babysitter's schedule, I need to discuss with my husband what I'm doing instead. Wendy's like, Well, the bigger issue is Jazzy. Monique said multiple times, I want to have this conversation, and you did it for her. She's like, At the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing, and that's the life of a wag.

She goes, Angel is my friend, which is funny because she was talking shit about Angel earlier in the car. So Giselle is like, Yes, but when did you all become so close? Because in Nevis, I didn't see it. Jazz is like, Well, Angel has called me since I met her. And when he goes, Off camera. She's like, Yeah. And that is the issue. You can't call off camera. So as if Giselle does not call up the veterans and be like, This is the plan. Now, let's go after the newbie. Make her tripela.

Yeah. And Jazzy's like, Well, Angel wanted me in her house, and she just got Tia by default. And Tia goes, Excuse me. How dare you? It's like, It's true. Well, Where did that come from? And Angel says, Well, I wanted Kate, Tia, and Jazzy in my house. Yes, I did, and I wasn't able to have a third accommodation like I thought. So Tia's like- Oh, well, I'm sure she thought she wanted you there, but if she did, she would be there, and I wouldn't. So I don't know how that's default. I think she made a choice. A choice that you lost. Sorry. I feel like that was close. They said, Would you like Jazzy in your home? She wagged her head. No.

Do you feel this was code, that the producers were like, No, you're going to take Tia because we need to create drama? Tia's like, I don't know, see what rift can come out of the fact that Tia gets chosen as not with the rest of the group, but we don't want you to have one of the friend ofs. We will keep the friend ofs in the other house. I feel like she was speaking code about production when she described that the third accommodation couldn't happen.

She's like, Well, I wanted a third accommodation, but Bobby, unfortunately, took that room for another man cave. He needed six man caves yesterday.

Unfortunately, Bobby invited four men to the house who took up the rooms that you guys would have been able to have. So, yeah, so Jazzy had to stay in the broke-down palace.

Yeah. And so Jazzy's like, Babe, use your brain. She goes, Hey, sorry. She goes, It was by default. It was by default. And Jazzy says that she's talked to Angel several times on the phone, and she never knew that her and Tia were that close. So when she saw her with K and Tia, she thought it had to be by default. Maybe Kay advocated for Tia. So Tia is like, yeah. That's not what default means.

No, it's not what default means at all. And Tia is like, Where did you pop out with that narrative? If Angel wanted you in her home, surely you would be there. No? And, Are you there? No. But guess who is there? Tia is. I don't know why that was so funny to me that she said that in that way.

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