Transcript of Grigio Girls: Tuesday, January 28th, 2025

Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to

the Toast, and happy Tuesday. Hope everybody's having a garjee bargy day. Speaking of garjee bargy, it's Jacqueline follet, if you will.

I am having a garjee bargy day because I'm in a garjee bargy environment with a garjee bargy gal.

It's day 2 of new toast era. Obviously, so much has changed. We hear you, you guys. My audio was piece of shit on a stick yesterday. Like, I'm sorry.

I will go jump off the Queensborough Bridge. I'm so sorry. We have made some adjustments. It's gonna be a work in progress till Jackie and I can get our audios totally matching, but today should be a lot better. I know, you know, if it's not, you will let me know.

And we also got some feedback that I actually agreed with, wishing that, you know, you could see our garjee, parchy faces a little bit more.

That's all they had to say. We wanna see more of your faces. We're having a hard time seeing you.

Mhmm.

So we're punching

in. We're punching in. In. Today's episode, like I said, it's gonna be a a a little dance until we get everything a 100% right. But to be in such a gargy environment, I feel really will yield results of garginess.

Yeah. No. It's definitely I've got my podcasting hat on.

Oh, okay. You're gonna wear this hat to the party tonight?

I will always wear this hat to the party tonight, but you just I don't know. Do you think it will change the tone of the show being in such, like, a a studio?

I don't think so, but I do think it will take us a long time to find our footing because, like, I still feel different. Yeah. I still feel like I'm in, like, someone else's living room. I feel, like, seriously strange. And by the end of yesterday's show, like, it obviously worn off.

But, like, it was the first, like, 40 minutes that I still felt weird.

Yeah. And we've never done such an abrupt change. Not to do toast at a glance, not to do it, but this kind of

hard not to do.

This kind of requires a good toast at a glanceness because every other studio change was, like, born of necessity. Like, I moved it, and then I put up wallpaper. We hadn't moved into a new place since June 2020, and we hadn't, like, made choices since then. So it's just given, like, the the changing nature of our lives.

Choices are being made. That's what all

have been made.

Now I'm so paranoid, so I just wanted to quickly check with you. Your camera no. No. But Red button. Red button.

Red button on the bottom right.

Right? Yeah.

There's only 1 1 camera light, like, to the bottom right of the lens. Yeah. I am so paranoid. Today is the 1st day we're on our own. Yesterday, we had, like, all of our fancy people coming and helping us, and they taught us how to do everything.

And today's, like, today's really a test of, like, what Jackson turd can do.

It's true. Training wheels are off. Speaking of our fancy people, we posted a vlog last night on our Patreon of the whole behind the scenes of the setting up process. It starts with Claude in New York. She vlogged her studio transformation and a bit of her move, and then I flogged flogged.

I did flog it.

You did flog,

by the way. We didn't mean we should talk about that. My home studio transformation. So it's a Parzg dual vlog. We really put our heads together, and you can watch it on patreon.com/thetoast.

Yes.

You'll get a little behind the scenes of my new studio. I have done a studio tour in the old OG studio. We both did. It was very MTV Cribs style. So that 1, if you guys wanna go watch it because a lot of people wanted to see the old studio, you'll see it in the new vlog, but there is, like, a full proper tour.

And then my new space, which I probably won't do a tour for a really long time. I'm waiting on so much furniture. It will not be done for a really long time. But this specific corner where I, you know, create art, this is kind of like my artist studio.

In your own little corner, in your own little square, you can be

When you think of Cinderella

Which 1 do I think of? Who is your Cinderella? That's a good question. When I think of that song, of course, I think of Brandy. Of course.

But when I think of Cinderella, honestly, I think about the animated character.

Yeah. Not,

not Lily James.

Lily James.

Not Robert King of the North. Excuse me? Robert Madden? Is that his name?

Oh 0, yeah. Yeah. Robert king of the when I think of king of the North, I think of, like, the enormous, like, Hagrid Robert Baratheon, king of the North. No. Oh, wait.

No. He was literally not even the king of the North. Hold on.

Robert Baratheon was in the show for 2 minutes.

The king. No. But he was also just, like, the regular king.

Yeah. He was the regular king. No.

Yeah.

Rob Star, King of the North.

Yeah. That's, like, a an interesting, piece of history, Robert Madden, how, like, his career, like, truly went nowhere.

No. That's not true. He's in that show or movie, The Bodyguard. He's always nominated for shit. What else?

Like, seriously, what else? Cinderella.

Okay.

He's actually, like, 1 of the ones who made it out of Game of Thrones. There are so few

He's mid tier. He's mid tier. Like, top tiers, obviously, which is so crazy. Somebody was in the show for 30 seconds. Jason Momoa.

Mhmm. Emilia Clarke, she was doing the damn thing for a while, but I think she, like, kind of is over it. It seems like she gave up. Sophie Turner, of course. I would say those are the 3.

Yeah. And she, like

Gwendolyn Christie. Don't sleep on Gwendolyn Christie. She's, like, doing stuff.

Brienne of Tarth? Oathkeeper? Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that.

Peter Dinklage, Wicked. Oh, 0, Peter Dinklage is not doing much work. Association with the movie?

Yeah. He's not doing much press. Maybe if they cast you in a movie as

the worst character too, you wouldn't wanna And you had the only song on the album that's a skip. Like, yeah, you wouldn't wanna show up. My god.

When I'm listening to the Wicked album and Peter Dinklage starts talking, like, Sam Hunt's, like,

talking. Man. He's having me in us.

I can't even repeat it. I, like, I moved so quickly to the skip button.

I've actually hidden that song on the album so that I go straight from, like, wizard and I to dancing through life.

Shall we quickly, just take a turn into the department of corrections? Something I wanted to correct from yesterday's episode that I found hysterical is actually Dexter Morgan, the person who penned the change.org petitioned to have Dora Dorja Cat or whatever, Dora Jar? Dora Jar. Dora Jar removed from the Gracie Abrams tour is actually not, a person. It's a fictional character.

Dexter Morgan is Dexter. So, we said it sounded like a TV character show's name, and we were right.

So So someone didn't put their whole dextacy behind that change that order position.

They did not put their whole dextacy. It's that's exactly what I was trying to say. Thank you.

So show your face. Show yourself. Show your face. Glad to have cleared that up.

Mhmm.

What else did you do last night? Yesterday was such a busy day with post prod, didn't you find?

Busy. So busy. Such a busy day with post prod. Yesterday's episode was slightly delayed. Obviously, Jackie and I are getting our, you know, our new normal in order.

So we will get back to our quick uploads. It's just been, it's been a journey because

everything's changed. Today. Like, I don't wanna jinx anything, but, like, we started on time.

So I think we're We should be okay.

At least for audio.

Yeah. Yeah. So, like, yesterday, I agree. It was, like, super stressful, and it was great. I'm just, like, so loving this new life for myself.

Like, I've just sort of created a new life. You you ever know

do you know that feeling? I I I do. Because you've also created a new life. I have created a new life. What does your new life entail?

Like, a shorter commute, a party studio. Like, I'm gonna make, like, a cute little office here. I'm just, like, excited about what

the future holds. Cultivating a vibe.

Yeah. Oh my god. I got woken up this morning, like, before my alarm, so annoying, by actually, like, a crazy acrobat in my belly. I've never experienced anything like that in my life. I thought there was an earthquake.

Like, my whole stomach I wish I could've seen it because I'm sure, like, my stomach was like like a basketball. Like, it was the craziest thing I've ever felt in

my life, and it wasn't, like, uncomfortable per se, but it wasn't it wasn't pleasant. And that was the baby? Oh, I hope so. As opposed to, like, the bowels?

Yeah. No. No. Oh, yeah. I didn't have diarrhea.

Thank you. I guess that was confusing. No. There was a baby in there.

That's so cute. Like, real kicks and and movement. Really crazy. That's so exciting. And then I entered a new week yesterday,

you know, on those apps.

Oh, Monday's are your days forever. Monday's are

my days. Exactly. So I check and I just wanna say, with each I used to really look forward to checking. It's like, oh, grape. Lentil.

And now I feel every time I check, I'm even more confused and lost than I was the week prior because it feels like we're not moving in a linear way. We're not getting bigger or heavier. Like, it goes from, like first of all, I've gotten grapes twice, and I guess it was, like, a bundle of grapes versus 1 grape. It's just they make it needlessly confusing and also, like, anatomically confusing because Well, it's hard

because a baby isn't a fruit. Yes. I'm aware. But I feel like they're gonna be doing

a better job.

Keep coming up with fruits that are the same, like, inches and do they do it by weight? So now I'm learning, because

I was complaining about this on my Instagram, that it's by length. Because I'm like, how the hell is a baby a banana? Like

Yeah. After just being an avocado, which is very dense. And round. Yeah.

So it's all about length. And to be completely honest, like, of all the facts I could learn about my baby, like, its length is not something I'm, like, particularly interested in, honestly.

Yeah. Well, that's to do with, like that that's helpful for the size, and then you get the weight at the At the doctor's appointment.

And, also, I don't know at what point in your pregnancy you stopped calling the baby it. I haven't reached that point yet.

Well, I feel like later in pregnancy, I came up with, like, a name that it was going by. Like, first was Elsie, and then the second pregnancy was Larry. Don't forget about Larry.

That. I loved when we were calling your unborn baby Larry. Yeah.

I feel like you're gonna get to a place somewhere, like, you have the nickname. It just like all my names.

We've been calling it baby. I that's nice too. Yeah. And it, obviously. It works.

Can't can't forget about it.

Yeah. Have you so sweet today. I look sweet?

It's you so, you know, it's weird to dress differently for these chairs. They're very deep. We're being shot at a different angle.

You see

Yesterday, I looked so short, so I gotta throw a pillow today. And update, my coccydidea, like, wasn't flaring up so terribly during yesterday's episode.

I also saw that you said on the vlog that you need to use your Coxidinia pillow in this chair, but you don't. The the pillow will sink and get lost.

I'll see if I end up needing it. I'm obviously gonna start without because it's fucking ugly. Yeah. I need to get, like, a pillow maker to match the linen of this chair to my Coxidini pillow. Like, I refuse to sit on that big oh my god.

I just have to tell you the funniest thing. I just have to tell you the funniest thing. I was like, I told you yesterday because I wanted to pat myself on the back for a job well done in our new studio. So I took myself out to lunch by myself. And so what do you do?

Just like a small cafe, you know?

Somewhere new or the same old?

Same old. Like, 1 of my local spots. Not like, nothing true.

I won't put you on blast. Just, like, wondering the vibe.

Like Yeah. And so I was by myself, and, obviously, I had nothing to do. So I started, like, listening to people's conversations. And I was stuck between 2 equally uninteresting conversations. I was just like, where do I go from here?

And I feel like there must have been, like, a nearby, like, a local event for Holocaust Remembrance Day because the people in the restaurant were all just giving, like, older and Jewish. I'm like, I just and it was like a lot of people were wearing, like, the yellow ribbon, the hostage pin. I was like, there was an event nearby that just got out. I could just feel it. So I don't know.

That's not relevant. To the ladies sitting next to me are 2 women. 1 of them is, like, very, very old grandma vibes, and 1 of them is, like, you know, like an older mom. I would say she's, like, 40 or 50. You know?

Mhmm. And the younger 1 says I start listening, and she goes to her friend. She goes, oh my god. You remind me so much of my friend who just passed away. And I could tell she immediately was like, oh, shit.

That's not something you say to a person who's, like, actually close to passing away. She was like, not in, like, the old sense, like, in the wise sense. I'm like, yeah. Sure, lady. Like, good luck cleaning that up.

It was seriously so awkward. I was dying. Like, I need to listen to people's conversations more often. They're so interesting. And I was telling Ben, I was like, by the way, that should be 1 of 1 of your, like, Whaddya Nuts is.

Mhmm. You know? I'm always, like, nominating things for Whaddya Nuts. He never chooses mine, so I was like, fuck it. I'll tell it on my podcast.

Yeah. We could have our own segment. Called what are you, futts? I thought you were

gonna say, what are you, fucking nuts? Yeah. No. I'm always like, that's such a good what are you nuts moment, and I know he keeps

them busy. Of you. I just wanna say that you're keeping an ear out for what are you nuts?

He keeps a list in his phone, and, like, whenever something happens, he'll, like, write it down. And whenever I share mine with him, I've never seen him write them down.

To bust out the list? But I

thought that was a good 1. What are you nuts? That's rude. Yeah.

I guess he didn't have that, like, strong reaction because he didn't hear it in person, but that is really odd. It's a what are you nuts moment? It's a what are you nuts moment? The stories today are what? Because we have dear toasters.

We don't have whatdy nuts. We have dear toasters.

Honestly, dear toasters is another version of whatdyandnuts, because there's always 1 person in the situation who's truly direct. It's true. And I kind of love that for us. We're so what you're saying is we actually invented what do you nuts?

It's true. Love that. He could be mining dear toasters for candidates. He could. How are they

today? They're good, actually. I combed through our inbox looking for an update from the girl who wrote in last week about her husband and that circle of nude photos. We haven't heard from her. I'm sure she's dealing with a lot, so, obviously, like, 0 pressure.

I'm sure she, like, you know, hasn't even listened to this week's episodes. She's probably so she doesn't she's even though we moved into a new studio.

To be honest, like, dear toasters will never be the same after that. Like, I think she broke dear toasters.

I know. Even when I was going through submissions for today, my bar has been raised, like, to the like, a crazy level. I nobody's submissions today or even remotely as close, but they're, like, you know, normal people craziness. No.

And it's, like, until she gives us an update, like, we're all just kind of stuck on that, like, Dear Toasters is on pause. Not saying that we're not doing Dear Toasters. Like, I would never. We've learned our lessons. Mhmm.

But we're all just kind of frozen by this.

Yeah. And, like, I think that as a community, we collectively, like, haven't moved from Dear Toasters since that girl wrote in about, like, the guy hoarding water bottles in her office. And now, like, we we had finally, like, just started to move on from that as a community. And then this happens, and we're just sort of stuck again. We're at a standstill.

Yeah. So I'll be curious to see what the girlies have brought for us today.

You know, I hate to be the, like, you know, giving you notes, but remember we did say we wanna sit more in the middle of our chairs. You just look like you're skewing a little a little

Well, actually, my booty do you? I just was reminding you. No. Yesterday well, also because Brody was here yesterday. Yesterday, I was literally in the slot on the side.

Like, he took up the whole chair.

You were almost out of frame.

Today, my booty is in the middle, but I do, if I may, sip on that lean because I'm leaning.

Oh, sip on that lean, girl.

On that lean.

So we have dear toasters, and the stories are

This is me sipping on that lean.

What is lean? Like, cough syrup?

Yeah. Like, purp? 1

more spoon of cough syrup now. Woah.

Woah. Okay. I'm sitting more centered.

Now coming up now coming up now. That's, like, probably 1 of the best I know you probably don't have, like, an answer in your pocket to this question because you're, like, mentally stable, but what's, like, your favorite Glee cover?

Fat, Got them Girls.

That's a really good answer, and it's definitely in, like, my top 10 as well. But a lot of people's favorite Glee cover is Darren Criss doing cough syrup. They say it's better than

the original. Let me tell you that will never. Darren Criss would never be, like, my number 1. Do you have beef with Blaine? No.

I just, like, don't, relate. Like, he's not, like I don't relate to him so much. Like, the things that he did except for Firework, like, don't really stand out in

my memory. Who is your least favorite character, uncle?

Oh, I don't wanna be rude. I don't wanna be rude because in real life, like, they're probably the only ones that I that would hear this.

Okay. So it's either Becca Tobin, Kitty, which it's obviously not.

You you know

that Is it Tina Cohen Chang? Oh my god. And Jenna Ushkowitz is a toaster. You guys know I recently recorded an episode of the Glee podcast. Make sure to check it out.

Even though it's, like, not a knock on Jenna because Of course not. But she's not Tina. But seriously, it's Tina and Artie.

It's Tina and Artie. Well, both of them, both of the hosts of the Glee podcast that I just

Wait. The only I was like, the only people who've ever supported us. Like, that's why I didn't wanna say it. The only people who have ever platformed us. Like, yes.

They were my most favorite characters.

Wow. I wish you had told me that before going on the Glee podcast, so I could've shared that with them, kind of an exclusive on episode.

I haven't rewatched Glee in a lot of years, so the feelings aren't fresh, but I just remember, like, that was frustrating to me.

Who knows for sure? Tina Cohen Chang was, like, low key the worst. She faked having a lisp, but, like, that's literally so ableist, and then was, like, best friends with an actually disabled person. And, like, she what is my disability a joke to you? It was I agree with you completely.

And Artie actually I didn't dislike Artie. I didn't. But Tina Cohen Chang as a character, although, like, when you are on the journey of the glee club, like, members are always leaving. They're almost like they have to have 12 members for sectionals, and they're always, like, hanging on to, like, 11. And Tina Cohen Chang is 1 of the OG members.

She's in the very first episode. She's 1 of the first 5 members with Finn Finn and Rachel and Artie, Artie also. So there's something to say about, like, their loyalty to the glee club. No.

I think then she was on a power trip. She was, like, 1 of those seniors who, like, was so picked on as a freshman in soccer. Like and the only thing that makes her powerful is being a senior, and Mhmm. They're gonna use that against you.

There actually, I believe, is an episode, like, about that sort of senioritis attitude from the seniors, and Tina sort of leads the pack. You're a 100% right about that. Senioritis. Yes. Senioritis.

What I would do to, like, experience senioritis again

Yeah. Where you

just like, your whole life is

in front of you. No. But the crash from senioritis is so real. Like, I wouldn't want to to have that looming. And I think that's why people really act out with their senioritis because they know they're about

to, like for help.

They're about to go back to the bottom of the heap, whether you're a high school senior and you're gonna be a college freshman or you're a college senior and now you have to, like, enter the real world. Like, that's why they're so angry and pompous.

Think senioritis is more of a cry for help? Yes. I do.

I love that. Least favorite character on Glee, now that you put me on the spot to talk trash? Oh, well, it's Kurt, obviously,

because I also recently rewatched the episode where Kurt's dad has a heart attack. Mhmm. And the glee the glee club is so there for them. And they're really there for them in a spiritual way. And the glee club is quite diverse, so they have members from all backgrounds and religions.

So they're all just, like, offering

their What they chat?

Prayers their prayers. And Kurt is obviously, like, having, like, a moment with God. So he, like, is rejecting not only the prayers, but people's kindness. And he acts and, of course, when you go through tragedy, like, you act however you wanna act. But he's honestly, like, the way he acts is so egregious, but he has his moments.

I I think more so I dislike Kurt because every song he sings, like, is a song I would never choose.

I also, from what I remember, dislike Kurt because he's always, like, knocking Rachel. Like, nobody will say anything, and then he has to, like, insult Rachel. And it's like, okay.

I'm jealous. He's definitely threatened, but there does come a point in Glee where the 2 of them lay down their arms and then become best friends, like, as they should be. Like, the theater Queens, and the show gets so much better after that. And then, of course, they move to New York together. So I think Kurt's redemption arc is when he finally, like, leans into what is meant to like, he's destined for greatness, him and Rachel.

Like, you're a 100% right. He hates Rachel. It's like a jealousy threat. Everyone hates Rachel because they're all jealous of her. But 100%, when he finally embraces, like, that friendship, he becomes such a more tolerable character.

Agreed. And that's what you missed on, Glee. And that's how Jackie sees it. That is how Jackie sees it. Now we can talk about why Sue Sylvester is the best character.

So you didn't ask me who my favorite character is, but it's obviously Sue Sylvester. Also, I can't believe I said my least favorite character is Kurt when it's actually not. It's mister Shue. I'm so sorry.

I know

that. You're of the members of the Glee Club. Known. You know? Yeah.

And when you say, like, my I think I said who's your favorite Glee cast member or Glee club member. Because there's 2 different tiers of characters on the show, the members and then the staff. Obviously, Sue Sylvester is the best character, and, obviously, Matthew Morrison is seriously the devil. So, yeah, I didn't wanna let the segment go on without just acknowledging that.

Yeah. No. It would it's been, I don't know, like, 20 days since we trashed Marcy Morrison.

Actually, it's been way more. No. Whenever I did the Glee Club podcast, that was the last time I trashed Matthew Morrison.

Okay. So I think we should dive

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Thank you, turt. You are welcome. Our first story is what I'm hoping is going to be the last update in the Justin Baldoni Blake lawsuit.

Snuck it out there?

No. For a while because they have gotten a trial date for the lawsuit. A New York judge has set a March 2026 trial date on Monday and moved an initial conference from mid February to next week as the public feud between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni continues to grow and accelerate. And in a new and separate front in the series of legal battles surrounding the film that became a surprise hit last summer, Blake in a Texas court filed a request for a deposition of a man she says was central to turning online sentiment against her during its release and promotion. The New York federal judge told both sides in an order late Monday to prepare for a March 9, 2026 trial.

So

Oh my god.

Over a year. However, I feel like it soon, like, this will be on pause until the trial. That's why I think this

I don't think so. I think that, like, they're gonna use this next year. Like, he keeps dropping things. Like, the lawyer went on Megyn Kelly. They just dropped a voice memo.

They dropped that voice mail. They dropped the pictures from the basement. He will use this next year to really sway pub public opinion because, like we've said, every time we talk about this, like, obviously, everybody wants to win the lawsuit, but they also wanna win public favor. And he has a plan. And, by the way, it's so important to keep in mind, Blake has literally not responded to a single thing yet.

So we haven't even heard the retaliation in the public sphere.

Yes. He put out a voice note, 2 voice notes he shared that, he had sent to Blake at, like, 2 AM while they were filming there from, like, April 2023. I've heard bits and pieces. Like, I'm finding it really hard to, like, actually listen to and look at the primary source material because it is so cringe. And I just wanna say something.

I feel like some people have, guessed or theorized that something happened between them. Like, Blake developed a crush or they fell in love, and then Ryan found out, and that's why Ryan was so mad and tried to ruin Justin, and that's why Blake was so got her feelings hurt because she had a crush on him and he didn't like that. That was

the running theory that Blake liked Justin, and Justin refused her advances, and that's what this whole saga is about.

So when I've seen that, like, I feel like that is so simplistic and juvenile and Yeah. I've kind of dismissed it every time and I still think that that's, like, not exactly what happened. However, now when I read these texts and I hear the voice notes, I'm like, they are talking to each other more intimately than 2 people would. Like, when he even said, like, I was so I'm so excited to have Blake Lively and the whole of you and all of you. Like, who the fuck talks like that in a voice note?

Like, my voice notes are just

like, and it's My my voice, I receive that not as those 2 having any sort of, like, intimate relationship. I feel like it's a real testament to their character, both as freaks, and as, like, people who really take themselves so seriously as, like, artists. That's Like, you're really making a Colleen Hoover movie.

That's where I was, but now I'm starting to just

Get swept away by all the conspiracy theories?

No. Certainly not swept away. This is not me being swept away. I'm just like, maybe there's some sort of romantic element here. Maybe.

I'm just now giving it more credence because everything that we're seeing, it's just very intimate the way that they speak. It's all I'm saying.

It is. And I think it's more so, like, reflective of these people in Hollywood who seriously are not normal human beings. They're such weirdos and freaks and, like and they talk in an earnest way like this.

Right. And it also just then adds not that Ryan wouldn't ever defend Blake at all costs anytime. Like, I feel like he if she she was wrong, like, he would go balls to the walls. But, like, if he did feel like he was encroaching on his relationship or that his wife caught feelings for someone else, then he's even madder. But, again, I do think it's, like, a

little simplistic. No. People are like, well, Ryan doesn't know. Like, Blake told Blake was mad that Justin did not wanna sleep with her, so she went home and started this rumor that he sexually harassed her. Like, to be honest, I actually think that's, like, such an insulting thing to say, like, that a woman's only saying she's being sexually harassed because her advances were turned down.

Like, that's, like, that's like in the OG handbook of how to deny someone's, like, experience. So I actually, every time I see that, I'm like, okay. That's seriously the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.

Yeah. That I don't think is it, but

something Ryan's in the dark on all of this.

But something about this is, like, a little more intimate. To go from, like, speaking like this to suing each other is very confusing. It's giving scorned lover. I don't know what it's giving, but I'm curious. But that's why I I think I'm gonna watch this whole trial because I cannot parse out what the fuck happened here.

And I don't believe in New York courts, you can have, like, televised media.

We need this to be televised if they're like, the whole whole we need clarity. I have no clarity now. I'm more confused than I've ever been. A 1000%.

And I think that's why people got so invested in the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial was because they were able to, like, really listen in every day and discern for themselves

to watch the testimony.

Yes. And so it's not like we're, leaving it up to a magazine to recap it for us. Like, we will be in New York if and I'm 90% sure you can't televise a trial. Like, there's no media. But people like, a reporter can sit in and then write what they heard.

But then you're getting someone else's version.

Might, like, recap the fire points that 1 lawyer made, and you'll be like, oh my god. But then they might leave out the fire points another reporter made. And they have their bias. And The New York Times is, like, being sued, and they're in the midst of this. So I I actually don't trust the media on this.

Shocking. Yes. I want the primary source material no matter how difficult it is to listen to and watch, like, the footage from the movie and the voice notes and the text messages, like, the cringe. But, I don't know. I feel like this is really high stakes now, and we deserve to know everything, and we

should know everything. We do. I don't think that trumps the law, which is that you can't. But I agree. It will really hinder people's ability to think for themselves because this is so divisive if we're not really given 24 like, full access to what's going on in that courtroom.

Yeah. They need to move it to Virginia, which is where the Amber Heard trial was.

Yeah. But, anyways, it's in a year, so I I can't imagine it's gonna be, like, a year more of, like, every day something dropping. I think it will be quiet for a little bit until trial starts. Because, also, don't you, like, want some things hold back, like, to surprise your

Right. But, also, like, public favor has really moved away from Blake Lively Yeah. That I think it would behoove her between now and the trial to respond in some way. She hasn't said anything since that first complaint. Yeah.

So and, oh, and by the way, once they turn over the text messages to discovery, like, that'll be a whole new wave of media and stories.

Right. Right.

Oh my god.

So that's the latest. Are you ready?

Seriously? I don't envy them.

No. No. This is a mess.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Mhmm.

An update on something on our list is that Meghan Markle has delayed new episodes of her archetypes podcast with Lemonade after postponing her Netflix cookery show. So I

thought you were gonna say she was postponing the Netflix show again, but I literally forgot about Lemonade.

I did not forget about Lemonade. Just to actually It's up there. You manifested it with this story. I manifested it? This story?

We nobody else was asking what happened to Meghan Markle's Lemonade show except for you. So she's already delayed the release of her Netflix cookery show with Love Meghan from January to March due to the devastating wildfires in LA. And now it appears her podcast with Lemonade Media, which appear to tease new episodes at the start of the month, will also be delayed. According to Hello Magazine

Why? What? What's the what's the reason?

IDK. Because of the wildfires? They didn't put out a statement, but, like, if you go and look, they should have been out, and then they're not out. Episodes of archetypes have been pushed back. The magazine, Hello Magazine.

I know how much. You know? They understand that a series of new podcast episodes for Megan has also been pushed back as a result. Dot dot dot of the fires. Of what?

Of the fires.

Because if she was having problems getting this podcast up, which it seems like obviously she has, She should have looped it in with the wildfire delay of the Netflix show being like I'm delaying all my projects Yeah. Because then nobody could say anything. But to delay something now because of the wildfires when they're they're not contained per se, but, like, it's much more under control. Like, people have resumed, you know, normal promotion of things. Yeah.

It's a it's a mistake. She should have looped them all in together.

Yeah. Daily Mail theorizes it's because of that Vanity Fair article about, the divorce book or whatever. Mhmm. I don't think it's that. I think she just doesn't have episodes.

Yeah. And here's the thing. More so

of the

classic Meghan

Harry. You

know? Right. And that's kind of like,

I know that's something people clown on her about, but it it is 1 of my favorite things about her. Like, she doesn't let this sort of, like, stereotype about her. Like, oh, Harry and Meghan never release their projects. Like, if you wanted to sort of beat that, you would release your projects. Right?

Now here we are at the top of the year. Her 2 projects have both been delayed. It's like I love that she doesn't fight it. You know? This, like, this rumor about her, like, she doesn't do anything to dispel it.

And she don't give a fuck. Like, cashing in the check before, like, putting like, delivering your homework, it's just it's a it's it's something I

actually really admire. Yeah. It's, and it's a shame.

Enough how, like, I will not be listening to the Lemonade podcast. No like, no tea, no shade. I didn't listen to her archetypes podcast. I I don't listen to many podcasts. I don't make I don't listen to podcasts.

I just make them. So, like, no tea, no shade. But I imagine there's a contingency of people who've been sort of waiting. Like, if Megan's your girl and she announces a podcast, how excited you are, and those people are just, like, waiting and wait. Like, I'm thinking of Sassy Shorter right now because I know she's excited for the podcast.

You know?

Yeah. No. It it's definitely tough being, like, a Megan fan and just there's a lot of waiting

on things.

To support her projects. Yes. Definitely. She doesn't let you. Imagine being like, we're finally getting the cooking show.

2 days till the show. 2 months. No. And think

about how like, we weren't excited. Like, we're not even huge Meghan fans, but we really wanted to watch that show.

Yeah.

And, like, we were disappointed. So imagine if we were people who, like, ran fan accounts, like, real stans. Yeah. I also be an exhausting job running a Meghan Markle fan account. Like, you can't really make any promises.

No. You can't. You really can't. Unlike the other fan accounts that make, like, really concrete

Oh, they make keepers. Change.org petitions. Okay. Keepers.

I'm also curious from a podcasting standpoint, like, what this show is going to be in. Like, the longer she posts it, like, just the more we don't know. I don't think it's

gonna show page up? Like, can you like, is it just up with the trailer on the podcast app?

I think so. But, also, I I'm sure the old episodes of arc it's still archetypes. So I wonder if they're gonna go back to, like, exploring different archetypes.

It's not, by the way. Like, there's no show page on on Apple.

Oh, interesting. It's on Spotify still.

Archetypes. Yeah. I'm talking about the new Lemonade show.

The new Lemonade show is archetypes. Oh, what? It's her show. She took it to Lemonade.

Oh, she got the name? Yeah. Got it. Okay. Archetypes.

So it's archetypes on Apple? Yes. But it says it's Archwell Studios. That is oh, it's Lemonade. Yay.

Okay. So the most recent yeah. They just have that first season, the Mariah Carey, Serena Williams, Mindy Kaling.

Yeah.

Oh, but now sales and distribution are done by Lemonade Media. So I guess if you're going and listening to old episodes, they're making money off of that because they're selling ads. But I don't know how much the old like, what are these episodes now? How when did this come out?

Like, a year and a half ago.

Doesn't even say. But I don't know how many people are going back and listening.

I don't know. Well, I guess the Megan fans do have that, that they could always go back and listen.

Thank god for, like, the the catalog.

The archetypes catalog.

Yeah. The archives.

The archives. That's a good name too.

It is

a good name. Are you ready? Shipper opens like a library. A library that's empty. Are you ready for our next story, our 3rd story?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. No. No.

Oh, 0, yeah. A little music news, pargy transition. Lady Gaga has unveiled the title, cover, and release date her for her upcoming 7th album.

Wait. That's so crazy that I didn't see this.

No. I didn't see it until I was looking for stories. Like, it didn't cross my desk as just a little monster. That's worrisome. A little bit.

So her new album, her 7th studio album is called mayhem, and it will be released on March 7th. The project will feature 14 tracks, including the previous release songs, disease and die with a smile with Bruno Mars.

Oh. 0, I didn't realize that that was, like, her song for her album.

I think it's also his song for his album because he has a new album coming out too, and I think there's, like, collapse. I think they're both putting it on their album so you can do that. Song, of course. The p song.

Okay. So I feel as though Lady Gaga I don't wanna say flop era because it's just 1 movie. But she commits herself so deeply to things. So Filet I Dieu, while the movie is just like a movie, it was also the last 2 years of her life and her whole, like, public persona. And so I'm just, like, having that association with her, and you forget, like, that she is that bitch.

Right? She's lived so many different lives, and Mhmm. And she has so many different careers. And she's never really had, like, a flop music career, although I think some people would consider Joanna flop, but we would not.

Literally, never. I think the flop is considered art pop, and then I do think history has been kind to art pop. That's the thing.

It's like the time, art pop didn't do well, but now it's reflected on as, like, 1 of the most genius albums of pop work in our time. Like Yeah. And Joanne just, like, didn't do well, and people, like, never went back and took a second look because if they did, they would see, you know, so much to work with.

You can't call Joanne a flop. It just means you didn't listen to it. Oh my god. It's so true. And, you

know, not to go on my celebrity documentary, Tirade, but she is doing Joanne while making the 5 foot 2 documentary on Netflix about the Super Bowl. And so it's not about Joanne. It's about, like, her Super Bowl performance, but you do get a glimpse into just, like, the process of Joanne and how Joanne got leaked. And, like, I just think if you're looking for ways to support and respect Joanne, you would watch that documentary.

Or you would stream Joanne. Yeah. But for

some people, like, clearly, that's difficult because they don't do it.

Take my hand.

Stay Joanne.

Claudia What's your favorite song? That to Things to Listen to at lengths among like, I can't listen to Lady Gaga as an artist because it's also different if I want, like, 1 mood even though I love Lady Gaga. Like, seriously, I'm a little upset. Your favorite song off of Joanne? Grigio Girls, maybe?

Yeah. Grigio Girls. Piano Grigio

Girls. Also, Diamond Heart, so good. Perfect Illusion. Perfect Illusion is Joanne? Yeah.

Like, sometimes we don't deserve Lady Gaga. Anyways, here's the tea on the new album. She said the album started as me facing my fear of returning to the pop music my earliest fans love. She said rather than simply creating the sound of her early hits, she describes her new album style as being akin to reassembling a shattered mirror. Even if you can't put the pieces back together perfectly, you can create something beautiful and whole in its own new way.

Per the release, Mayhem is about chaos and transformation, celebrating music's power to unite, provoke, and heal. Okay. Maybe I sound crazy and delusional, but it does sound like this is heavily influenced by Joanne. Like no.

Let me tell you why. Because she said she's going back to, like, her OG pop because, you know, the the natural progression of her career took her to Joanne. She's always been the type of artist to just, like, follow her gut and, like, do what she thinks is best and make the best possible music. And that took her to Joanne, and people didn't want it. She's like, okay.

Fine. We'll go back and make Born This Way. Okay.

I just wanna say she did put out an album after that, Chromatica. Don't forget. Rain On Me except it was a COVID album, and it didn't get the Love It Dessert because we were not popping At the club. Our proceeds.

At the club. It's a club album. It's, like, literally for

Like, the clubs. Rain On Me is so amazing. It's so, so amazing. That album was really good. So I feel like that album was like her coming back to pop from Joanne.

So this Yeah. Were coming back to pop from coming back to pop during COVID? Okay. However you wanna explain it.

I definitely forgot about Rain On Me. You're right. In that whole era. But I guess she's kind of had, like, 2 back to back albums that didn't go her way. 1, because people refused to wake up on Joanne, and 2, because of COVID, she didn't make music for COVID.

She should have released Joanne during COVID. I actually do think

Joanne Reggio Girls. Joanne was a bit ahead of its time because I feel like that sort of music now is very popular. You know, like, Kacey Musgraves, Maggie Rogers, like, movie, country pop. So true. She was ahead of her time as she always is

because she's a true artist. That's actually a really brilliant point. Had she released Joanne during COVID when people were, like, eating up folklore type music? Folklore. Like, think about all the people who needed to hear, like, Grigio Girls while sitting on their couch for a whole year.

Yeah. But So her timing is

off, but she's gotta play William Shakespeare in that sense, not appreciated in her own time.

She is appreciated, but she's always ahead of her time because she is, like, such a true artist. Visionary. Also, don't forget, then she was taken to do Star is Born soundtrack after Joanne. So she was, like, busy with that. And then she did House of Gucci.

Yep. And then hold my hand, Maverick.

Hold my hand. I'm so glad you just brought that up. Totally went under the radar because I think when you think about that Top Gun Maverick album, the song that comes to mind that was, like, so big is the 1 Republic 1. You know what I'm talking about?

I worry.

I worry about it right. That song, like, went number 1 in every country. It was, like, the biggest song, and it was so good. And I think it was also the song playing when Miles Teller was doing his naked dance on the beach, which I understand, like, the impact. So Hold My Hand, which Lady Gaga contributed to that soundtrack, did get a little bit overlooked.

And it's disgraceful because I don't know if there was a better song made this century. And I'm I'm just I'm honestly saying

I agree. And Hold My Hand got nominated for, like, all of the awards for that the ratio was on, and she didn't win, and she should've won. And that's why, like, these awards can be taken seriously.

It's so true. They're genuinely meaningless.

Like, remember that hold my hand didn't win. Just remember that.

Yeah. I mean, I don't need to remember it because I think about it every morning when I wake up.

Then she did fa leado music, which is like a musical flop. And now mayhem. And I'm ready. Like, I'm ready for Lady Gaga making doing red carpet, doing press. Like, I just I love her.

She's such a talent. We don't quite appreciate her when we have her.

We don't.

And I'm probably a part of that too because she's, like, she is so crazy. But that's what it takes to be an artist.

I am also, like, ready for her to return to music. I like I like Lady Gaga the pop star more than I like Lady Gaga the actress. And so funny because I feel like a lot of comparisons are made now between, like, her and Ariana Grande, and I happen to prefer Ariana Grande as an actress than a pop star.

In this moment, I like what she's doing, and I understand why she wants to do more of it. Yeah. Okay. Well, see you oh, you know what? I'm gonna add that to my countdown.

Mayhem, March 7th. Yeah. Because it feels like

it's not being put where's the machine? Like, the industry is not putting Lady Gaga on our radar. I haven't even heard about her new music.

Yeah. Well, now I think this is the beginning of the machine. The machine just, like Okay. Got the dish being built. Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story, our 4th story? Yes. Spencer Pratt has passed on a Watch What Happens Live appearance after Andy Cohen's past Heidi Montag diss.

Yes. I saw this.

So Spidey won't be appearing on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen anytime soon. As Heidi's career is making a comeback, fans took to social media to suggest she become Bravo's newest addition to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. While some may be crossing their fingers for her return to television, her husband, Spencer, was quick to shut down any possibility for her to hold a diamond. He said, no. Thanks.

He also said, another 1 asked if they would ever appear on Watch What Happens Live. He said, the person who said he would rather scratch his eyes out than watch my wife hard pass.

When He was saying this on Twitter. Right? He was, like, answering fan questions?

Yeah. So then someone else was like, they would be lucky to be on Watch What Happens Live. He said, Elo, yeah. So lucky the guy that bashes my wife, gonna be so lucky to sit with him. Rather sit in my burned house or uphold.

Here's the thing, and this is exactly why I made Spencer Pratt the queenie of my week, like, 2 weeks ago. Not only because he's, like, being funny and, like, making great content, but at the heart of what he's doing is, like, he so fiercely loves and wants to protect his family. Like, that I think gets overlooked because people are like, oh, he's so funny. Like, But no. No.

Why he's doing all of this is, like, in service of Heidi. And he doesn't let even though he's, like, becoming a big star, Spencer this, Spencer that, it's all about Heidi. It's Heidi first. It's Heidi this. It's Heidi that.

Like, no. Of course, I would never now that I'm having a moment, you want me to go and watch happens live where people disgraced me and my wife? I don't think so. Like, I love that everything he's doing is in service of his family. Like, it's not this, like, selfish, thirsty reality star.

You know? Yeah. No. Nobody holds a grudge like Spencer Pratt, and you would think, like, and admittedly, like, they want to be on TV. They wanna do all these things.

So you would think that when those opportunities come, it's like, scruples out the door. We wanna be everywhere. But it's like, no. He doesn't forget. He's not gonna sit with someone who has spoken poorly about his wife even if the circumstances have changed now and maybe, like, he would be nice to them.

It's like Right. The North remembers. The Pratts remember.

It's true. It's admirable that even, you know, like, his grudge supersedes any potential opportunity. Although, the story is a little misleading because he wasn't offered to watch Trebbens Live and turn it down. A fan just suggested, like, you should go watch Trebbens Live.

Yeah. Yeah. The story is misleading because they said he passed on it, but I don't I didn't see it, like, as a offer.

No. It was like a suggestion from a fan. He was doing, like, a q and a on Twitter.

Yeah. But in these q and a's, we find out who he has beef with.

It's so true. So his running list is just Andy Cohen and Alex Cooper. I think he did have beef with someone, but he just was saying on TikTok, like, it's done. Like, they they've made they're good. I think it might have been, like, Brody.

Oh, that's good that he's also used the song. He's also a forgiving person.

Well, what he had said was that, like, this new era of his life, like, people who are in his mind coming for him or whatever, like, they're his real enemies. Up until this point, it's all just been, like, silliness and drama, but now, like, that his life is on the line and his family, Like, if you cross him now, like, you are his true enemy. The list was sort of, like, wiped clean, especially by anybody who used the song.

Got it. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Are you ready for our 5th and final story?

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It's gritty, it's real, and it's totally captivating. We're also gonna see Christina and her soon to be ex husband, Josh Hall, in a super intense exchange on their way to a flip. It's really awkward, and then Christina then spills the tea to Tarek about what's going on in her marriage, and it's, like, super dramatic. I've seen the first episode. The flip off itself, like, the competition is just, like, fabulous party HGTV vibe HGTV vibes.

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Thank you, turt away. You're welcome. Our 5th and final story, Miley Cyrus is reflecting on her past mistakes and detours. She said I would not go back and change anything. So Miley Cyrus shared an Instagram video on Monday with Pamela Anderson.

They're talking about the movie The Last Show Girl, which also I think you should watch because yeah. But I think it

got like, it didn't get nominated for a bunch of stuff. So, like, it would be a waste of my time in terms of this specific project.

Oh, damn. Because it was nominated for the Globes, and Miley was nominated. But she spoke

Her song.

Her song. Yes. Yes. Yes. Because she has a song on the soundtrack called Beautiful That Way, and Pamela Anderson stars in the film.

So they sat down together, and they were talking shout

And Miley was snubbed for an Oscar.

And Miley was snubbed just like Lady Gaga. Yes. So Miley recalled wanting to be the Baywatch actress when she grew up. She said ever since I was little, it was only Pam. When people would ask me what I wanted to be when I grow up, I would say you and the whole thing, the tattoos, the hair, all of it.

That's all I wanted to do. She added that she loved watching Pamela Anderson evolve and felt inspired. She said I've had so many different pivots and evolutions, and 1 might say detours within my path, But it always ends up coming back around to make the next stage of who we are, something that's more potent, something that's more real. Pamela agreed saying sometimes you need to go do a little research and come back to your path. She then recalled once telling a director she wanted to let everything go from her past.

I don't wanna think about it anymore, but then the director goes, no. Bring it with you.

That's nice. Honestly, this era of Miley, like, is by far my favorite 1 because I feel like she's really not trying so hard. I think that, like, in the past, she's really struggled to, like, show us who she is as an artist and as a person. So she sort of put on these personas that felt a little inauthentic. She's like, this is me.

This is me. And we're like, okay. Okay. And now I feel like she's not doing that. She's just, like, doing whatever she wants, and it is reading so authentically.

Like, and it feels like she's really sort of I know this sounds crazy, but, like, since Hannah Montana and then, like, the breakdown, and I feel like she has now officially, like, found herself.

Yes. I would agree with that, and it comes through in everything that she does. And she's such a talent. Like, she's just so talented in every pour of her body. So whichever she does, like, is beautiful, but watching her seem so, like, happy and content and at peace with herself, like, and just doing the things that she wants.

Like, she likes this movie, and Emily Anderson, and she wanted to be on the song, and that got her a Golden Globe nomination, not an Oscar because they're fuckers. But Right. You you know, it's all coming with just her being her her real beautiful self.

I think also, like, the phase of life that she's in is, like, being reflected in her music. So she's just, like, releasing, like, happy music and, you know, self reflected music. And music that, like, for someone at my current stage, like, that's exactly what I wanna be listening to. Like Yeah. Not everything needs to be so sad all the time.

I feel like she's having fun. She's looking back and looking forward. You know? Yeah. I just I love the and I feel like I've been hard on Miley.

You know? Mhmm. So I wanted to say to my Smizers, like, I think that, like, this is a really good time. Like, we're not even talking about it. That's how, like, natural it is.

It's just, like, she's sort of effortlessly settled into this Pelleus in her life. Like, I know she's in a happy relationship. I don't even know his name. Like Right. Perfect.

Perfect. It's just really good to to see Miley looking and feeling so good. To see her shining. Totally. So those are the best having said that.

Mhmm. Oh,

yeah. No. Like, everything of who I am is so My own code. Highly, Hannah coded. Like, I'm just it's so crazy when you think about it.

So many of the are inside jokes.

What's your personal favorite era of Miley?

Oh, I have so many well, really, like, Hannah Montana, like, the movie Of course. That was the most clocked in I've ever like, seriously, like, she was my whole world. Do I have to say that?

Yeah.

I have to the climb, like, changed my life, changed me, my DNA, my on a cellular level. It did.

Yeah. I think for me, like, that period when she was, like, a little bit more provocative, but it like, in hindsight, it was, like, so normal, before she went, like, a little nutty. But, like, she had the really long, like, chestnut brown waves and the Can't Be Tamed album, which is such a work of art. And she just, like, would wear fringe shorts, and she was, like, a real style icon. And I think she was just, like, having fun before things got, like, dark.

That's that's definitely a top a top era for me.

Yeah. Like, Miley and Mandy?

Miley and Mandy. Correct. Yeah. So let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. So every Tuesday, Jackie and I do Dear Toasters where we read 3 submissions on air from swirlies who are in need of advice, whether it comes to relationship stuff, work stuff, as of last week, some criminal behavior.

Submissions are totally anonymous. So if you ever find yourself wanting to write in to Jackson Claude, you can do so 1 of 2 ways. Head over to our website, the toast podcast.com, or, write us an email to your toasters atgmail.com. Both totally anonymous. Don't worry.

If your submission has not been read on air yet, it might be too long or unfortunately uninteresting. So try and just keep it concise. You know? Hello, Jackson Turf. I'm in need of immediate help.

I'm currently on vacation with my boyfriend and his family, and we were having such a fabulous trip. Until last night, my boyfriend stayed in for the night with his brother and his parents while I went out to get a drink with his sister. As we got out of our Uber and walked up to the house we are currently all staying at, I literally saw his parents having sex through the window, but it gets worse. His dad was wearing a furry mask. No.

I didn't mistake it, and it wasn't like, I didn't see things too fast. This man was literally wearing a furry cat mask while having sex. My fiancee's sister got out of the car on the other side, so if she saw them, she didn't mention it, but I don't think she did. We just walked in in silence. Do I ask her if she saw anything?

Do I tell my boyfriend? Do I go home? Help. I'm actually traumatized. PS, we've been dating for 4 years, and I thought his family was so normal.

From a toaster who wishes she was blind.

It's always the quiet ones. Here's the thing. They're not hurting anyone. You know? And it's nice to see, like, people obviously, like, this

is crazy. But for furries, that's, like, what the community call this themselves. I've I've heard of it. They're not hurting anyone. And it like, there's you know, it's hard to, you know, stay married for so long and keep things interesting, honestly.

So if anything, you I think you could change your perspective here, like a little bit of a shift from, like, oh my god. They're freaks. Like, being a little little judgmental to just, like, honestly, that's sweet. Like, at least like, you could have seen so many things. A prostitute.

Like, you could have seen infidelity. Like, you saw 2 people who've been together for a really long time who have a beautiful family Keeping it fresh. Taking vacations. Keeping it fresh. And you know what?

Like, maybe it's not for you. Maybe it's not for me, but, like, it is for them. And I think that you can't undo what you saw. Right? But you can change how you receive it.

You can shine a different light on it.

Yeah. There's nothing to be done with this information. Do not tell your fiancee. He he either knows and eek or, you're gonna ruin his job. His

business, by the way. Like, those are his parents.

This is just for you to know, and and now you know a little more about your future in laws than you would have bargained for. But everyone's getting close. This is what happens when you when you share a house, people see things. That's the thing.

Like, going on vacation is obviously amazing, but sometimes you'll see something you can't forget.

So he packed his mask?

I guess. I mean, it's not big.

So I'm sure, like, growing up, your husband has seen the furry side of him, like, at some point.

Yeah. Yeah. Just don't bring it up.

Do not bring it up. But now you know. And And

you know what's so funny is, like, as a family, we travel a lot together.

These trips bring people closer together, and now you're closer.

Have you ever seen anything, like, walked in on someone?

1, I don't know if I would even say it right now. But Okay. 2, like, no. Nothing comes to mind. What about you?

Just 1 thing comes to mind. Do I wanna know?

Do you know it? Do you know it? I'm not gonna say it, but, like, I I, yeah, I believe you were there, but, like, you didn't see it. Do you remember?

I think something's coming to me. I'm gonna text you.

Hold

on. Something that I've previously blocked out is coming forward, and I think it has to do let me just text you with the words I think it has to. Don't text me yet. Tell me if I'm right. Okay?

And, by the way, guys, don't even guess. Like, I'm they'll take the story to my grave. Like, I didn't and nobody knows. Like, I just

Yes. Yes. Unless our tech

Yes. You know?

Unless our techs are in discovery.

Get leaked. Oh, by the way, if we get subpoenaed, we're screwed.

Also, how did Justin Baldoni keep that voice note? Don't they that ish unless the other person keeps it? And even if the other person keeps it, how do you have your own voice note? Unless it was a voice memo. So he's he workshopped it, saved it, and sent her a little podcast.

Yeah. I thought it was and I I'm, like, I'm, like, not coming for Justin Baldoni anymore because people, like, don't wanna hear what I have to say, and I get so much hate

for him. It's like his case is like, to be fair, his case is getting stronger and stronger.

I mean, it's easy to get stronger when no one's responding to you or rebutting anything you're saying, but sure. I thought it was weird that he sealed the voice memo. Like, people who keep voice memos are just, like, very nefarious to me. But he's only 1. Yeah.

Of course. Yeah. People will disappear.

Yeah. But even if I send you a voice note and you keep it, first of all, never do that. But if you did, I couldn't listen to my own voice note anymore. Only you can listen to my voice note. Correct.

So how does he have his own voice notes? Unless he sent them as voice memos in the voice memo app, in which case he was, like, taking even more like, making voice memos and sending her which is a podcast.

Yeah. And people who send voice memos, generally, like, have something to hide. Whatever. I I don't wanna get into it. Notes.

Voice notes. Excuse me. Yes. You know, it's, like, something you don't wanna put in writing.

But he's sending voice memos, it seems. Otherwise, how could he have his own?

And the how do you have a voice mail too that you'd leave someone? Like, I get a voice mail, and I delete it. Like, I'm just sure. Okay. I agree with you.

Next up. This one's kind of personal to me. Hey, swearlies. Love you. My long distance boyfriend was out Thursday night while I was having a wine night with my friends.

And when I checked his location later that night, he was not home. Instead, he was at his local police department. I thought to myself, what the fuck? I just decided to go to bed and check again in the morning. When I woke up and saw no update on his location from the night before, I googled his name and the local police department, and an immediate mugshot pops up.

He got a DUI. I seriously do not think I can handle this ick. I need your advice on what to do. He has since been bailed out and given the rundown given me the rundown of his nearly 20 hour hangout in jail, including the Willoughby sandwich they gave him for lunch, but I actually can't with him anymore.

Oh, he told you

about it. Do you think a DUI is a deal breaker?

I just think usually a DUI, like, points to a larger issue, so those larger issues might be a deal breaker. I thought for a second he didn't tell you about it, and I was like, well, this is why we can't do long distance. You can get in a legit DUI, and I wouldn't

know about it.

Yeah. Yeah. I think it's like evaluate the relationship separately. Like, I think some I know not for you, and I do think DUIs are are seriously, like, terrible,

of course. The worst things you

could do. Yeah. But people also, like, make mistakes. So I think there's way towards forgiveness, but it just doesn't seem like your relationship is that serious and you're looking for any reason to get rid of him, and this is a very, very good 1. Yeah.

To me, like, this would cross

the line of my moral compass. And if it doesn't cross yours, like, that's not I'm not, like, that's fine too.

If Ben got a DUI?

Okay. But the thing is, like, these are 2 people in a long distance

Right.

Like, this is my that's my husband. Right. Like That's father of my child.

I completely agree with that. It seems like her relationship is unrooted. You guys aren't even together. Like, he could go get a DUI. Right.

If And you're not even

the person involved. Dating if me and Ben when we were dating, and it was a long distance relationship, which I just feel like, you know, adds already, like, trouble to a situation, complications. He got a DUI. Like, I would seriously be like, are you fucking kidding? Like, get a life.

Yeah. I'm sorry. Like, grown men getting DUIs, it's just it's like if you get arrested for, like, getting into a fight at a football game. Like, you're seriously you're not a serious person.

Yeah. I would say it looks like you wanna break up with him anyway. This is as good a reason as any.

Yeah. Yeah. And if if you're feeling like it doesn't align with your set of values, that's totally valid because I feel the same. Alright. Ready for our 3rd and final?

Mhmm. Hey, Jackson. Turd. First, I have to share that y'all's podcast is truly the best part of my day. I love you both so much.

I'm getting married in a few months, and everything has been so great. However, my future mother-in-law has made some of the planning and prep a bit of a headache. She very much loves her son, maybe a little too much, so some of her actions slash comments, I've just learned to ignore. But this most recent 1 sent me over the edge. After she picked out her mother of the groom dress, she made a comment that she doesn't want my fiance to see it until the wedding day because she wants to do basically a first look.

I just ignored the comment, but I actually can't stop thinking about it. Am I crazy to think that that's a really wacky thing to do? We have a great relationship, but the wedding for sure has caused some tension. Should I just show my fiance a picture of her in the dress? Should I tell him that the comment made me uncomfortable?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

I don't think there's anything, like, so, so wrong with this. It's just, like, a little sad because I feel like she has these expectations.

A first look is for

a bride. Of course. But, like, I don't even think if if she was, like, look at my dress, like, I don't even think he would be, like, oh, I hadn't seen it before. Like, he would have been, like, hey, ma, like Cool dress. So it just makes me, like, a little, like, sad that that she has this all built up so much in her head.

And No. I'm not sad. And she's not gonna get the reaction that she's looking for, I don't think. Well, then maybe that you should stop this first look, 1, to protect her, and 2, like, because it's wrong. Like, there's 1 first look.

Like, nobody literally, nobody cares what

you look like, lady. Like, it's not about you.

Why it's making me sad because she doesn't know that yet. So,

yeah, you should, say, I'll come with you to the next fitting, and then bring your husband.

I don't know what you should do. I could let it go is all I'm saying. You gotta pick your battles. And if you're saying this is

But it seems like she was willing to let it go, and then, like, she couldn't stop thinking about it. So it's obviously not You're

not letting it go hard enough. You're not more focused enough.

Well, then maybe it's not worth letting go. Maybe it's not worth letting go.

It just seems like it's been a treacherous journey. You've gotta pick your battles. I personally would not pick this 1. It seems innocuous, all I'll say. Protect your peace.

No.

I don't know. Sometimes these bitches need to be put in their place, and a wedding is a perfect play it's a perfect time to do it, honestly. Because you can get away with, like, saying and doing things your mother-in-law during the wedding planning season. Like, you couldn't like, once the dust settles, like, you have to go back to being a normal human being. But people aren't themselves when they're planning a wedding.

So to, you know what, just fuck shit up. Say it. Say how

you feel. I guess. Or just let it go. 2 paths diverge in a wooded forest. Or don't.

The you are I think both of our advice is okay.

What if you hurt her feelings and then she goes to your husband and then your husband's on you? Why'd you, like, hurt my mom's feelings?

Husband comes to me and is like, you hurt my mom's feelings. Like, bitch, I have to do what I have to do. Like, get on board.

I think it will cause more problems than it's worth.

Well, to be honest, I actually think, like, how you handle any, like, sort of in law spats during the wedding really sets the tone for the rest of your marriage. Because and if you're looking for a husband, like, who defends you, like and I think that's what a lot of women look for when they butt with their mother-in-law is, like, you gotta start somewhere. Okay. I think this is a good trial run for today.

I'm just I'm a pacifist, you know? By the way,

so am I. Like, I would never say anything, but I'm a big talker when it comes to your toasters. I'm like, yeah. Fuck shit up.

It's true. You really don't put yourself in their shoes.

No. Never. And because if it's actually, like, me and my personality in the shoes, like, I say no. Like, I say nothing about anything. And you have to seriously have murdered Romeo for me to actually say something.

Yeah.

It's true. So she talks a big talk. I do.

I just have to live with

your choices. You have to live with them. So how do you wanna live? Let it go.

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