Transcript of Benedict Ray Cyrus: Tuesday, January 21st, 2025

Good morning, millennials. Welcome back

to the Toast, and happy Tuesday. That has, you know, a different kind of energy because it's the 1st day of the week, but it's not a Monday. And it's 11 degrees, and it's just it's unique.

It feels like a Monday, but it's a Tuesday, which is bless up. So fabulous.

Send your prayers to the sky.

Hopefully, this means the week will go by quickly. Not to rush things along.

We'll progress in a way.

Life along.

That I find unoffensive.

Yeah. But you don't wanna rush through things even though something really exciting is happening next week, but you don't wanna rush through things.

Turn is moving. I meant to acknowledge. Thank you for opening up this space for me. This is my final full week in this studio, which has housed us for so many years, and I'm not even remotely sad, but I feel we must acknowledge this monumental moment.

Yes. It is our longest running studio that we've had. It is? We moved in in 2020. We took refuge after the eviction.

In the midst of coronavirus Who remembers Churdy and Jackson's eviction era? That was probably 1 of my most fun times.

No. That that wasn't a fun time. Before that, when we were in that apartment, like, things were bussing. And then not only were we evicted, we had to go to Zoom Toast, like, dark times. So this studio was our saving grace, and we had so many amazing memories in that studio, so many wonderful shows both together and remote, and it deserves to be honored in a respectful way.

It's true. We sought refuge here, and it was a home to

us when nobody else would have us. And while I am really excited because my new studio is so much closer to my house, and I don't know if I mentioned that it's 11 degrees today, I I wanna put, you're right, some honor and some respect on these 4 walls. You know? These 4 walls came down around us. Do you remember that Miley Cyrus song?

Yes. Of course.

Must have been something sent me out of my head. Oh, speaking of songs, I meant to text you this morning because we haven't this toast theme song competition is completely over.

Yes. That was on my notes of things to discuss because we have not, you and I, officially selected the winner. So if you haven't been reached out to, no 1 has yet. I really I have still top 2 top twos in my head.

Okay. I chose my winner.

Like, this stuck in my head.

We will vote, but I'm sending you a picture of the girl, like, who's my winner. Okay?

Know who it is. It's between it's the same as my top 2?

I think so.

Like a third. Right?

No. No. No. No. Like, we I had 3 that I was, like, mulling over that were like, I would have been happy with any of them.

You saw who I texted you?

I see it. Yeah.

Like, it's her. It's always been her. I'm sorry. It's her. Yeah.

So we will reach out to her privately, you know, get the paperwork sorted out, and then we will announce. And then we have to start the process of recording it. I've already booked studio time with the fabulous producer who produced the Grammy award winning song a 100% by Claudia Ostride. So we're in really good hands, and people seem really excited. I know you haven't seen the fanfare because it's all on TikTok, and we are gonna talk about TikTok.

But, like, people are so invested in the winner because I did admit to TikTok last night. I was like, it's over. Like, I think I know who I want to win, but, like, who do you guys wanna win? And a lot of the same names were circulating, which like, my top 3 seem to be the Internet's top 3, which made me feel

good. But, also, we have given away that it is a singular person and that it's not a man. So in just our conversation, we've

given that away. God. Fucking pronouns. You're right.

Yeah. So

Shit. I really wanted

to fuck. Tells you a little something. No. People are so invested. My friend Sam stayed with me this weekend.

We had such a fun weekend, and her sister called because her sister is a huge toaster. And she was with her camp friends, and they're all toasters. And they were calling to try and find out, like, what I was leaning towards. They're like, have you heard this 1? And they're all singing it.

Jackie, the people coming out of the woodwork. First of all, like, random people text me being, like, I'm dying from this competition. And, too, like, people I know, like, Shannon is so invested being, like, I'm getting DMs from, like, local Nashville songwriters wanting to make sure that you guys see. Guys, I've seen every submission. Don't worry about me.

My screen time this weekend for, like, a 1000000 reasons was so fucking high. Like, I saw every single submission. Don't you worry.

My screen time this weekend was so high. So many things were happening. And I have to think, like, this was the biggest weekend in news, like, ever. I have never turned on, like, cable news. Really, I rarely ever do.

This weekend, like, it was constantly playing in the back of my house for 1 reason or another, like, the hostages coming home, yesterday, the inauguration waiting all

day for rascal flats. TikTok?

TikTok. Like, I had the new like, the the news channels must be really happy people turned on their little shows.

Yeah. Media is a buzz, and that's what we do here. We are women in media. So much

of a shocker. It all down.

Are we making TikTok a story, or should we talk about it now? No.

We are not making TikTok a story.

Okay. Like, I like how you said that. I guess if it was stupid. Like, why?

No. Because because, like, the stories are, like, the fun fatter, not like world news. And 2, we always keep putting into the pre fast 5.

Okay. Okay. Well, let me tell you my experience this weekend then. Because I'm and I wonder if other people are feeling this way. Like and I'm a big advocate.

Like, I love TikTok. It's my favorite place on the planet. It's literally my personality. Like, this affected me. I was directly in the line of fire.

And I'm, like, really getting to the point where these people are making me kind of, like, hate TikTok and, like, not care anymore. It's giving fatigue. It's giving will they, won't they. Because on Saturday night, like, there was a lot of hoopla. They had said they were gonna shut down operations as opposed to just, like, taking it out of the app store, and they did.

So it was kind of like this crazy historic thing. I was with a bunch of girls on Saturday night, and, like, I opened TikTok, and it was 10:30. It wasn't even midnight, and they closed down early. You were making herstory. It was really crazy.

So it was, like, it was it was just this, like, exciting, not in a positive or negative way, but just, like, an exciting thing to be a part of. And it was really crazy to see, like, how the media landscape was shifting, how people were talking about it, where people were going. And it coming back less than 24 hours later was seriously, like, 1 of the lamest things anybody could have done. Like, it was so pick me, so, like, attention seeking. I was just when it came back, I wasn't even, like, relieved, and I I missed it.

Like, I was do you know how many times I opened TikTok in that 14 hour span? Like, when it came back, I was like, wait. No. Like, go back. It was just not it wasn't giving.

It wasn't gone long enough. And first of all, I saw such, like, really crazy content from people, like, crying, sobbing, screaming, crying, throwing up. Like, it really kind of put into perspective for me. Like, we actually, as a society, could have used a break. And I think we actually could have used more than 14 hours.

They'll give it 24 perhaps, like, just so people could perhaps reset and touch grass. So oh, and now that it's back, like, people are like, it's different. TikTok's not the same. Like and I feel like we hyped it up so much because I actually know what people are talking about. Like, it's not hitting in the way that it did before because it was going away.

So we were all excited. Now it's just this, like, thing, like You, all smelly old thing. Yeah. Like, people are and, like, Bethenny Frankel's, like, starting a conspiracy that it's about the drones. She's like, I'm not seeing any more content about the drones.

Like, a lot of people are thinking, like, Chinese Communist Party. Like, I don't think it's that. I just think it's, like, psychological. Like, we hyped this thing up so hard, and then it came back, and it's just an app, like, with dumb videos. Like, I it's just been it's been really crazy.

Like, and I, actually, I'm kind of over, like, the whole conversation. I don't even care anymore. And not me telling everyone, like, because, you know, I'm kind of like a social media expert. You know? Like, so when I was with a bunch of friends, my friends on Saturday, and they're like, do you think, like, it's gonna come back?

Like, what do you And I was so adamant. I'm like, there's no way Trump is gonna bring it back. Like, this was his thing. He hates TikTok. He hates China.

Like, this is, like, this is, like, the Trump thing. And I'm like, guys, it's definitely not, like, being so like, speaking with such conviction. Cut to, like, literally 3 hours later, it's back up. Like, I'm I'm embarrassed.

He has said recently that he didn't want it to go away. He said more recently. Like, yes, 4 years ago, he said, like, national security issues. Then more recently, he was like, we wanna make find a way to make it work. Yeah.

No.

I was just, like, speaking with, like, the utmost conviction. And I think people, like, you know, in like, they respect what I say when it not comes to everything, obviously. But, like, TikTok, and, like, yeah. What she knows probably, and I was like, guys, it's not coming back. Let's say your goodbyes.

Travis has never met Taylor.

Correct. It's gonna be Travis has never met Taylor.

Well, I thought it was coming back imminently. I did not expect it to only be 14 hours. So on that, I wasn't right either.

The whole thing was just, like, really lame for everyone.

Really lame and exhausting and seeing the same content, like, from every individual over and over again, like, of them staying alive.

TikTok, me.

The screenshot of TikTok. Oh my god. Adjusting to reels. Hey. How y'all doing when it comes back?

Like, I am moved on.

Fatigued for sure. And, like, as for the future of TikTok, like, genuinely, I don't care anymore. Like, they've officially made me not care, which I guess is good. Yeah. And I think let this be a lesson to people who make a living on TikTok, whether that's, like, through TikTok shop or you're a content creator.

Diversify your platforms. We give 90 days now, that's 3 months. Like, really, get to work because this is a platform that is, like, kind of finicky. Like, it's here, it's there, it's not there, it's China, it's America. Like, you've been given a warning.

So now

you've been given a warning. So now you've been given a warning.

We could do YouTube. We could bring it on. Reels, come on over to Reels. The water's warm. The more time you spend on Reels, the better it gets for you.

I think that's what people are noticing.

And this was my biggest disappointment because I feel like it was such a wasted opportunity for Instagram because we have known for, like, a real month now that, like, TikTok has this date. And the fact that Instagram didn't do what they usually do and just copy TikTok's algorithm, their format, everything, we would have moved over. Like, if it was even remotely similar, it wouldn't have been such a big deal for TikTok to go. But, like, when Instagram came out with Instagram stories, like, we were all like, oh, this sucks. And then we all just eventually transitioned over and stopped using Snapchat stories.

They do this thing where they copy everyone and we all make fun of them. And then we end up becoming, you know, primary storytellers on Instagram. So I didn't understand why, like because we were left with nothing. Reels, I'm sorry. And I know you, like, love it.

It is not a sufficient alternative to TikTok. Not only is the algorithm, like, not as smart. I don't really feel like it targets what I need to see. The interface is not as user friendly. Like, it just why didn't they spend the last month, like, doing their, you know, usual control c, control v?

Like, copy that shit. Yeah. I thought that was, like, a wasted opportunity from the man who's, like, known for copying other competitive platforms.

Mhmm.

Why do you think that is?

Well, I just have some thoughts. Maybe, a couple things. First, I do think the more that you use Reels, the the more the content is tailored to you. Like, right now, I I like the things that I see, but I also I'm not on TikTok, so it's not like I have the 2 to compare it to. I don't know what an even better algorithm Well for me is.

But I also like that the algorithm on reels isn't as addicting as you say TikTok is because I will inevitably spend less time on it, and so I think that's good. Why Mark Zuckerberg doesn't want me to spend more time on reels and doesn't want me to be as addicted? I don't know. But overall, I'm happy with the product because of those reasons.

Because of those reasons. I think that I wouldn't have been surprised. I think what the the cool thing about TikTok is is that, like, you're seeing content from people you really don't know. And when you scroll your Instagram feed, it's people you follow. Yeah.

They sprinkle in, like, things you might like, and it's never something I would even be remotely interested in. I wish that they had well, now that the opportunity is lost. But if they had created, like, a second feed where you could swipe and see, like, you know, people you don't follow, things you might be interested, just like a feed of not you're following, but just,

Well, when you go to your explore page

Mhmm.

And you and you click a video here. I get so much, like, Sabrina

comment here. Scroll down. And then you start scrolling.

I don't know who any of these people are. Yeah. Like, that's their I'm getting all types

of the FYP. It's just it doesn't hit the same.

That's where you go for outside content. Okay.

Like, I don't know why I, like, only get slime. I I don't I don't partake in slime culture. There's so much slime. And I don't know. It's just TikTok knows me better than I know Claude's self.

Yeah. And that's what I'll miss,

maybe. It's back. Yeah. There's nothing to miss.

There's nothing to miss. It's back. We also have a tell you have your toasters today, and they are so crazy.

Okay. Good. We also have a lot of stories today, and I watched the Molly May documentary this weekend. First 3 episodes dropped. We're getting clarity.

Oh, it's first 3. I thought it was 3 total. I'm like, that's a lot of blah blah for you know?

First 3 episodes dropped. Next 3 drop in the spring, but they showed the previews for the next 3, and there's footage from January 1st where she sees everyone seeing her kissing Tommy on New Year's Eve. Like, the turnaround, they got me there good.

I mean, they are from Love Island. Like, we are used to tight turnaround from these 2.

And, like, technically, you filmed this 2 weeks ago. Like, put it on my screen. It shouldn't be so hard.

You have to

find that it is for other people. Like so here's what's going on between the 2 of them. And a lot of it was shrouded in mystery in the early episodes, and I wish they would have been a little more clear. They're like, what Tommy did, what Tommy does. I'm like, what does Tommy do?

What did he do?

When there's, like, this big thing. It's like you say.

So here's what I've pieced together. He obviously has turned to alcohol since being injured from fighting, and then drinking was ruining their relationship. I don't know exactly what he was doing at family functions, why she had to beg him not to drink at her sister's wedding, what he

would have done. What is he doing? Embarrassing? Like

What? Like, drunk

or angry? Drunk saying embarrassing things, like, how drunk people do.

Yes. But I just don't know which exact

1 Right.

It was. But, like, he was drinking all the time, making like, half the time their relationship was just so terrible because he'd be drinking the other half. Like, she really loves him, like, really, really does. She couldn't keep doing the cycle anymore, and she knew she had it to break up with him. But if she didn't announce it, she would have never followed through with it.

So when she posted that over

the

summer, it was, like, a slow roll last resort, not just, like, Tommy came home drunk on breaking up with him. She posted it and really did it, like, to hold herself accountable in, like, leaving him. You need to get help. However, throughout the documentary, she shares, like, the reason why I haven't been crying and I'm not, like, totally a mess over this is because, like, I believe we're gonna get back together. Mhmm.

So that, like, comes out later in the episodes, and you start to see how, like, they're working towards being back together. He's not in it once except for on the phone and just, like, talking about Bambi. I think in the second half, it will be more about them making their relationship whole again. And then the first 3 episodes are really about her clothing brand, maybe, and all the work that she's put into it and, like, the launch event and a lot of, like, scandal that it had. I didn't even realize that she had a pretty big, like, oopsie with the brand because they launched these blazers that were, like, the hallmark of the collection.

Did you see the blazers on TikTok? The peeling? The bubbling. Yeah. She said, like, the manufacturer, what they actually used to make the blazers was not the agreed upon fabric that she had been wearing every single day.

Like, she was wearing her own blazer, and it was just really a bad mess. And then they had more stuff coming out in that fabric, and I think she had to cancel it. I think maybe has kind of been, like, a complete cluster of

her. Side.

And I'm shocked to hear that. I thought it was such a slight. Everything I've gotten from there, I love. And I also now find that because a lot of it is sold out, I go on, like, revolve and look for pieces that are like, even this card

that I'm

wearing today is maybe inspired, but it's lioness.

I started on Friday night, the Molly Mae documentary, and it occurred to me, like, as I started watching it, like, I'm actually not a Molly Mae fan. Like, I didn't watch Love Island. I don't watch her YouTube videos. I like her and her man as a couple, and I feel like I like them, like, through osmosis from you. And I was, like, forcing Ben to watch it.

And, like, I'm like, when I force Ben to watch something, like, I need to feel really passionate about it. And especially in the beginning, like, they weren't talking about the Tommy stuff, and I was just like, I feel like I have girlboss too close to the sun. Like, this actually isn't for me.

Yeah. It's it's very slow paced. She is a comfort creator. It's not Right. Comedy, exciting, craziness.

Like, it's just like documentary. In her life, in her house. And, like, if you she's what's so remarkable about her, actually, is that she's just a she's a very ordinary girl

Yeah.

Like, who has created something that no other reality TV store star or influencer has done. And, like, why her? It's so crazy, but, like, we are I am drawn to her. I do I don't need her to have, like, the biggest personality. Like, she has really lovely taste, but not

so extravagant.

Like, I don't know. There's just something about her that's

She kinda sounds like an equivalent, not now because she's, like, evolved so much past YouTube, but, like, an Emma Chamberlain. Like, why did Emma Chamberlain, out of all the YouTube swirlies, get this choke hold on America? She her original content, she was just, like, a regular girl who would, like, get manicures and, like, wear her hair in a high pony. Like, she was not she had, like, a certain esthetic that was, like, very, like, Gen z, but it wasn't No. I think she has a big person.

No. But she has a big personality too, and then she was also, like, dressing in a very distinct way. Yeah.

I wouldn't say her personality in her YouTube videos that, like, shot her to fame, like, was so outrageous. Like, it was just, like if she wasn't just a girl, like, she when she was, like, living at home, like, when she really, like, before she blew up, it was just, like, girly swirly content. Yeah.

And I think for Molly also, it's, like, about Molly and Tommy. But even without Tommy, like, it's really about her. So what she's done is just so impressive, and I she's also very much, like, a perfectionist, like, very in the weeds on everything. Like, a post doesn't go out on any social media account related to her without her looking at it. Her she was showing her camera roll.

Like, she just went to take an esthetic picture of her bath, like, 100 of photos of it.

Like like, seriously so unenjoyable. Yeah.

And she's like, it gets to a place of, like, it's absurd. And when we get to that place, like, then I just forget about it.

Well, I have to tell you that when I stopped watching Molly Mae, I did watch the movie Conclave. And I've been meaning to talk to you about it, but you, like, ignored me all weekend because, yeah, you had a friend over. Congratulations. School for you. So happy for you that you have a new best friend.

Yeah.

My best friend was here.

I absolutely have to tell you about this movie.

Okay.

Because me and Ben started to watch it, like, a week ago, and it was just clear that it was, like, not a movie we wanted to watch. And then I was like, let's give it a second chance. Josh had told Ben that it was, like, 1 of his favorite movies of the year. So we were like, you know what? Let's try it again.

And I'm so glad we did because I actually enjoyed it, but, like, it was the craziest movie I'd ever seen. And I am gonna spoil it, so if you have any plans on watching Conclave,

just like Who's in it?

No. Jenny, you're never gonna watch this movie. It's Ralph Fiennes, and it's about the selection of a new pope. It's like a hypothetical scenario. Okay.

I I don't wanna watch that. Yeah.

So the I guess, I didn't know, like, the ceremony after a pope dies is called conclave. All the archbishops and cardinals, excuse me, from all the world, like, the global ones have to come together and vote on which cardinal they want to make the next 1. So it's very political. You know, people have allegiances. It's regional too.

Like, the Europeans want somebody who speaks Italian. The Africans would love someone black. Like, it's very, you know, it's a lot of personalities, a lot of cultures mixed. And Ralph Fiennes plays, like, the the deacon, the dean or something. Like, he's in charge of the procession.

And so, basically, the whole time they're trying to pick a new I didn't, like, understand what the movie was about because at first, I'm, like, oh, they're trying to pick a new pope, and Ralph Fiennes' team wants to put, Stanley Tucci. And I'm like, sorry. Stanley Tucci is actually too famous to act now. In no fucking world did I think Stanley Tucci was a cardinal. And, like, when he was gonna be the pope, I was like, sorry.

It's just I'm not seeing it. Like, I'm I'm just not seeing it.

He has a cookware fine.

Yeah. I I wanna see Stanley Tucci actually ruin the movie with his, like, with his own aura. You know?

Yeah. Yeah.

So and then they were explaining how it's very political. Like, Stanley Tucci and Ralph were, like, a a little bit more, like, of a liberal, very modern progressive pope, whereas a lot of the others were, like, very old school and whatever. So they were just like, we have to true story? No. No.

So then, like, these cardinals who were getting a lot of votes, they hadn't reached the you needed, like, 71 votes. They vote every day. They do a vote until somebody gets it. Then this guy was making a lot of progress. Turns out, you know, he fucks some nun and has a daughter.

So it was, like, all these different scandals. So, like, where is this movie going? Then they're doing 1 of the votes in this, like, special they're under sequestering, like, they're in this, like, secret Vatican room for weeks. 1 of the windows shatters, turns out there's a suicide bomber outside. I'm, like, woah, this movie is taking a weird turn.

Then all the Pope start fighting because they're all like different sides of the political spectrum. And they're talking about like other religions and I'm like, damn, this is getting like kind of twisted. And then this 1 guy stands up and he's like gives this whole speech about like peace for everyone. It was just like very like, you know, middle ground hippie. And the speech was so powerful, the next time they voted, Peacemaker is the Pope.

So we're like, oh, okay. I guess that's At first I was like, you know what? I kind of like that resolution. It's like somewhere in the middle and this rando who people didn't even know. Like, he didn't speak any of the languages.

This rando became pope, and it's like, okay. Alright. But there's, like, something sinister going on while they're getting ready to announce the new pope. I'm like, what is going on? Where is this movie taking us?

Ralph Fiennes, who's in charge, his guy, he's got, like, a spy who's, like, been talking to the outside world for him, comes with some information on the peep the person they have just elected pope. The peacemaker. The pope had this trip to Switzerland, but he never took the trip. Why was he going to Switzerland? He had to go get this medical procedure.

The new pope is a hermaphrodite. The new pope has ovaries and a uterus, And I was like, me and Ben were like And a penis? Yes. So he was explaining his whole life he's been a man. No.

Like, he had a surgery for his esophagus 1 time. They found his uterus and his ovaries. And he's been struggling with it with his faith, and he went to get the surgery, but he said, God made me this way. I'm not getting the surgery. That's why he didn't go to Switzerland.

And, like, Ralph Fiennes is like, oh my God, we tried to avoid the guy with a daughter. We tried to avoid the guy who was paying people off. We ended up with a woman. And then that's how the that's how the the movie ends. Like, it was seriously I didn't know where the movie was going the whole time, and the fact that it ended up, like, so left field, me and Ben were like, what the hell did we just watch?

It was actually so random because I think about the whole suicide bomber plot. I'm like, what was the point of that? Like, it was seriously the craziest movie I'd ever seen. I I couldn't really come to terms with what I was supposed to learn. So did

you like it? Like, yes. Because first of all,

the movie itself was just, like, it moved at a good pace. It was interesting. Like, I didn't know about this whole, you know, what a conclave was. I guess, like, some people know that word. I didn't.

And the movie actually didn't explain, like, that that's what that was, but I put it together. But the ending, like, seriously threw me it was just, like, it was so kind of crazy, you know, and so random that I was like, okay. Like, okay. The popes are hermaphrodite. Like, I imagine if I was, like, a Catholic, I might have, like, stronger opinions about it, but I was just like, oh, okay.

Like, we're just fucking shit up

in this movie. Also, like, wanna go back to the definition of a hermaphrodite, if I may.

Sure. Sure. Sure. And by the way, actually, the movie never said hermaphrodite. It's my understanding that if you are, like, medically, like, a certain gender, but you have other parts, that is a hermaphrodite.

Yes. I I just put the label hermaphrodite. I don't know what the other I'm I'm, like, 90% sure. Yes. Which is a medical condition.

A

penis? Yes. And and ovaries.

Yeah. Because, like, your ovaries are in, like, your stomach. Like, he didn't know. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Until he said he was, like, 35 that he had to get this surgery, the doctors were like, sir, you have a uterus.

Got it.

Okay. Hermaphrodite is an organism that has both male and female reproductive organs. A 100%. Okay. So I was right.

It's hermaphrodite.

Wow.

It was really, like, so like, when I saw this movie about the pope, like, I didn't think we were gonna be going into the gender conversation. Like, it was just Hermaphrodite education. Yeah. And, actually, I've been thinking a lot about hermaphroditism because I feel like

it's feel like hermaphroditism isn't a lot a big part of the gender conversation. It's, like, something completely separate.

No. No. I've been thinking about it because, like, when we were getting straightened for all those genetic tests, the I think everybody does this, but a specific sect of Judaism, we are very on top of it because of Tay Sachs, which is like a genetic disease. If your Ashkenaz is from Eastern European, and a lot of people with our backgrounds can carry it, and if both you and your husband are like, it's very dangerous. So, we get screened for genetic testing.

We just did it. And a lot of the genetic testings are about, like, gender and reproductive genitalia. And, actually, I came back positive for 1 that was like, if you have a boy, the boy's gonna have a big penis. And if you have a girl, the girl's gonna, like, have a big penis too. Now it didn't end up being an issue for Ben and I, but, like, some of these genetic diseases that like, they discover new ones, like, every day.

There's, like, a 1,000 that you could test for, and they're really, really rare. But it's just been top of mind for me. So

Yeah. No. It's so it's basically, like, you have a baby. You're not sure what gender it is, but, like, you're like, you make a call.

Are you talking about hermaphrodite? Yeah. No. Because it's clear what the gender is. Like, this guy was born a boy.

He had a dick. Like, they couldn't see the baby's ovaries. And I guess, like, never in his life did he do a scan or anything where they saw he had a uterus. Like, it was just, you can function. You're a man.

Like, you've, like, you've got balls and a okay. Yeah. It was weird. But the thing

is, like, not hermaphrodites. Hermaphrodites are lovely. Interesting movie.

Like, plot plot twist. Interesting movie. We're talking about it. Like, I'm telling you, it was so crazy. I was actually shook that that is what the and I'm glad I saw it because I think it's gonna be 1 of those Oscar contenders.

And I'm really trying to I'm trying to make my way across all the films, and I'm really doing a good job. So I don't think it should win anything, and I certainly like not to be a hater. I don't think Stanley Tucci should win. I actually think Stanley Tucci needs to stop acting and just commit fully to being like a chef, influencer, socialite celebrity because it's overshadowing his acting career.

Yeah. I agree. His personality is just so big. Like, it's not a it's not a knock on Stanley self.

No. I'm not saying and it's not that he's a bad actor. It's that he's so Stanley.

Yeah. You can't take the Stan out of Stanley. Was he wearing his glasses?

Yes. Like, it was just why is Stanley Tucci at the Vatican?

At least take his glasses off. That's so Stan Lee.

Like and that hasn't been a problem for him up until recently. Like, I didn't blink at him in Devil Wears Prada. I certainly didn't blink at him in the Lovely Bones. Like Yeah. He he is now reaching a pinnacle where he has to choose.

I feel like he would choose acting.

I feel like he would too. I think there's more money in acting.

No. And that's, like, who he is at his core. You can't take

him out. He's, like, trained for in his whole life.

Yeah. Yeah. The rest is just confetti.

Yeah. Okay. Well well, thanks for

that recap.

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Our first story, some musical news from yesterday. 2 headlines to share. 1st, Carrie Underwood sang America the Beautiful acapella after a major text snafu at the inauguration. So, seriously,

such a terrible thing to happen to a performer. Like, the whole world is watching, especially Carrie Underwood. Like, you know, you take a risk when you're performing at an inauguration. You're gonna divide. We're already so divided.

So it was already, like, this big risk, and I know she, like, came ready to slay. And, like, whoever was in charge of the ox chord, like, seriously, the government is so embarrassing. Like, this would never happen at, like, the Grammys. Like, it's just it's not even hard. And the music started

and then stopped. And then it cut. It's

it was seriously just, like, butt clenchingly awkward. I felt so bad for her. And I was thinking I'm like, this is like a Cady Heron, you know, moment. What a bright time. It's the bright time time.

And I'm like, if this goes on a little bit longer, she'll she she should just, like, you know, start singing acapella, and that's exactly what she did. She rallied the room. Honestly, thank fucking god that they moved it indoors. Because if she was outside, there was, like, supposed to be, like, a 100000 people or whatever. I don't know how many go to inauguration.

And there was no music. She would have had to stand there. She couldn't then start singing a capella. Like, she would have had to

stand there and truly wait. Well, actually, I think that would have been okay, and I think she would have done a capella because I think I saw some people saying, like, the room was singing with her, which was really nice, but they were, like, all off key. I was probably making it even harder for her to stay on key. And given all of the trials and tribulations, like, it was getting a little scary there for a second. She sang amazingly.

And we actually just watched her on New Year's rock and eve, and I feel like we were saying, like, it didn't sound the greatest.

We were just saying, like, her vocals were, like, a little bit strained. Yeah. And the thing about Carrie Underwood is, like, we have faith in her as a performer because she comes from 1 of those shows. Like Right. When you come from a talent show, like an expert Kelly Clarkson, like, you have actual talent.

There are so many singers who, like, come up out of nowhere, and who they actually can't sing. It's really crazy. You can't win a competition like that.

Voice raw many a time. However, I feel like people's voices change over the years.

People can't

lose their voices. No. You never know.

She was she was struggling at Rock and E. But she gave a great performance. She looked great. Her music was great. She sounded fine, but, like, we know her to be better than that.

She didn't sound, like, amazing, and here she sounded amazing. Like, perfectly sung. She didn't do anything extra with the song. She hit every note. It was, like, seriously beautiful, and I actually think overall, it turned out to be a really nice moment and probably a little more impressive than if she had had her track and she just sang it.

So I think it actually turned out better than what it would have been.

But now she's being commended for, like, slaying it, but, also, like, making the best out of a shitty situation. It was

make it work moment. I know she

was, like, at first before because, like, the accolades have really been overwhelmingly positive. I know that, like, when she got behind that curtain and it was over, like, she was so pissed.

Like She definitely was. And then she definitely, like, heard that everyone was like, no. That was a made like, Katie Harron. Honestly, that was Katie Harron. Just like she said, that was the best it ever went.

Ever went. Like, it it got the people singing together. It was really, like, a beautiful harmonious moment. Everybody was singing the song together. Everybody knows America the Beautiful.

Yes. It was kind of, like, we should do it like that on purpose next time.

Now for her to have it happened to that song, I could just tell you, like, from a singer's perspective, it's actually a kind of easy song to sing. Like, you can make it big and but it doesn't have any, like, crazy high notes or anything. If you had to do that with the anthem, and then everybody else is trying to join in with you, the anthem is 1 of the hardest songs to sing. So, I'm glad that it happened with that particular song, but beyond unfortunate. And I would like an investigation done.

Like, whose fault is this? I feel like we just moved on from it, and then the music worked for the rest of the day. But, like, who who who?

I want names. Well, the music didn't work. I'm sorry. Yes.

Thank you for

bringing that up.

We have to talk.

The story's other headline news from inauguration performances as we reported Billy Ray Cyrus was performing at the Liberty Ball. All these balls, oh my gosh. Like, you really should participate. And the

fact that where balls fly at our nose.

Like The fact that Rascal and Gavin weren't at the same ball and, like It was so confusing. It was just it was a lot as, like, a a number 1 fan of both of them. I didn't even get to see Gavin perform. Anyways, Billy Ray Cyrus performed at the Liberty Ball, or did he? It was an absolute

You guys. Disaster disaster. Disastrous. And to be honest, I am, like, now I never thought much about Billy Ray Cyrus. I definitely had, like, a soft spot in my heart for him as Hannah's dad on the show and then Miley's dad in real life and achy Ricky heart.

Like, he Old Town Road. Like, he's never given me reasons to dislike him.

No. Except for Miley, and the devil don't need it to you.

And he's Oh, yeah. That oh my god. I forgot about that. That devil dumb slut, Molly. Oh, man.

He's so crazy.

Beefing. So, like, he's been a little bit on my shit list, but I do hold like, I do have this bit of nostalgia where I'm like, oh, maybe it's just, you know, it's just others. I think

a lot of people have that nostalgia. Like, for our age, like, he really raised us. He was, like, the television he was Disney Channel dad, and then for people older than us, like, Achy Breaky Heart. Like, he really does have, like, ties to culture for a lot of different people. Had he said that?

Last night ruined their childhood. The ties were severed.

Childhood ruined.

You guys, it is actually worth watching the whole thing for as fuck because he only sang I don't know how many songs he was slated to sing, but it was very clear from the moment his performance started that he hopefully was high on drugs because if that's, like, who he actually is, like, that's best case, best case, he's high on drugs. Worst case, like, that's who you are. So here's what happened.

And I don't even know what happened. Okay. So he came out, I think. They started playing the music video for Old Town Road on the screen. Now I was watching a really terrible livestream that didn't cut.

It was just, like, the back of the room. So it wasn't until like

he was singing it.

At the end of the song, Claudia is like, what is Billy Ray Cyrus doing? I'm like, he's not up there yet. Like, we're just watching the music video. Turns out he's up there. There's no lights on him.

He's groaning. I thought and I was, like, watching it while also on my phone. I thought I heard someone, like, mumbling in the background. I was like, that's weird. When you told me that, no.

He's there, and then I went to a different stream, and you see him, and he is a mess.

Oh 0 my god. The hair.

He disheveled the hair, the shirt, the scarf. Like, he looks like something that just, like, washed up on his shirt.

Literally, it was bridge troll come to life. He was wearing his crazy hair, a beanie, and then a cowboy hat, a jacket, a shirt, a scarf, and he kept taking items of clothing off and, like, leaving it on the stage. So when it was time for him to leave, he had to, like, pick up all of his belongings. So let's talk about him leaving because I don't know how many songs he was supposed to sing, but somebody clearly turned his guitar off after the first song because it was so disgraceful. And I think they were hoping that like he would just walk away.

Oh, don't walk away when I'm You could not get Willie Wai Cyrus off that stage. You couldn't have offered him $6,000,000 in that moment. Like nothing was stopping this man from continuing to sing. He said, my guitar's not working. My guitar's not working.

Not end. He's walking on the stage, like, talking

to him. Achy, breaky heart.

Like, he did whatever.

We'll just do it acapella.

He compared himself to Carrie Underwood. He said he had tech issues too.

Oh, my God. I actually was mortified. I could only imagine what it was like being there because and, honestly, like, shame on the event planners for not getting a security guard and just like, okay, it would have caused a scene for 1 second. It went on. You would not believe I think the whole thing start to finish was 10 minutes.

Like, it was really long.

And it's just, like, how is this still happening? We're, like, texting. I could not believe what I was watching. And even if you watch it now, like, you'll see what he did. But, like, that feeling of it happening live, and it would not end was so crazy.

And he's walking on the stage talking to everyone. By the time and security's coming. They take his mic stand.

They take his voice. Equipped. The guy was equipped.

Security was like a stage manager.

Yes. He wasn't because somebody needed to give him a flask and grab him by the arm and escort because he kept going the wrong way. Whether it was on purpose or not, he would he could not find the exit of this facility, and he wasn't trying.

He wasn't looking for it.

No. But even when he went down those stairs, and then he thought, like,

he was leaving. Kissing on all the fans and taking pictures like he's princess Diana. Like, it was so crazy.

You guys, it was seriously the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life. It was disgraceful, like, seriously, to every it was a slap in the face to every American. It was in my lifetime in, like, in terms of, like, crazy performances, top 3 craziest I'd ever seen.

Craziest I've ever seen. Like, it was traitorous to our country.

It was Benedict Ray Cyrus. It was so crazy. And now I feel like I have a lot more understanding because while we've gotten a lot of intel on what's going on with the family's Cyrus drama, we don't know for sure. We just know that there's, like, a divide between, like, Billy Ray and everyone. And then there's also that weird thing where, like, maybe Noah dated her mom's boyfriend.

But I now have, like, a deeper understanding of, like, how you actually can't communicate or have a relationship with somebody who's that far gone. And I have to imagine that he was on some sort of alcoholic drug. Yeah. Because that's really not how human beings behave. It was I I genuinely I genuinely hope that he gets the help that he needs because it was a

cry for help. It was a cry for help. I understand now why there's this divide between the Cyrus family. So I'm sorry, Miley, that maybe I didn't see it sooner. Even though after we heard that clip of you don't need The

devil done made my daughter a whore. My daughter a scam. Actually say?

He's called her, like, a skank. A

skank. Devil skank. Miley, the devil skank. Billy. That's what

he said. Now everything's gonna be about this performance,

Miley. Be. I'm sorry. This is, like, a a situation where maybe it could be a wake up call for him, but it's it seems like he's been on this sort of vendor for a while since the devil skank comment.

Yeah. So it was audio that was leaked, and, yeah, he called her the devil skank.

That's such a crazy fucking thing to say about anyone, let alone your daughter. Like, seriously, jail for Billy Ray? Lock him up and throw away the key.

Yeah. So so crazy. That was just a crazy thing. And then Jason Aldean came out.

And Jason Aldean said he's like, oh, we got a little bit more time. I think Billy Ray was supposed to, like, deliver, like, a normal performance of, like, a couple of songs, and that created more time. And Jason Aldine, you know, picked up the pieces that Billy Ray left behind. So he was he's at least, you know, a consummate professional.

Yeah. He went on there like nothing had just happened even though we all saw what

only imagine what was going on backstage. Like, because it's really all country artists. There's it's a small circle, so, like, everybody must be talking about it.

Everybody must be

talking about it.

Is ablaze. No. It was so wild. And they they, like he's blaming it on tech issues. Like, even on stage Is he?

Like, even on stage, he was saying, like,

he said, my guitar is not working. The band is dead.

Saying, like, it's the audio, but, like, no. I think that they cut him off. The video was playing, but they stopped. Like, he wasn't he couldn't sing. He was grumbling.

They cut him off because Jason Aldean had no audio issues or any issues.

Correct. It was just wild time. It was just the absolute craziest thing I've ever seen. Great. It was so nuts.

And it made the Carrie Underwood thing, like, look like, not like a big deal.

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? I am. Some fake news this morning, but I wanna see what you think because Justin Bieber unfollowed his wife.

Fucking news.

So everyone said Justin Bieber unfollowed his wife, Hailey, on Instagram. And then And, by

the way, I guess, technically, you did.

Like yeah. And then today, he posted someone went on my account and unfollowed my wife. Shit is getting sus out here. And when I saw on Twitter this morning that

he had unfollowed his wife, I feel like news like that happens all the time. And then I go and check, and the people still follow each other.

There's so much did unfollow her.

Yeah. But when I checked this morning, he was following her back. So I was like, oh, fake fucking news. And then he released a statement on Instagram stories. So I guess confirming for a period of time, he at 1 point had unfollowed Yes.

His account was no longer following Hailey's. Now you know me. I love to clown on people who, like, have social media faux pas and then say they got hacked. Like, it's seriously so embarrassing. But I don't know.

I'm always very cautious when it comes to Hailey and Justin because there's so much drama around them always, and they couldn't, like, seriously be more stable. Like, they've never broken up. They have a baby. Like, they like, time keeps proving them strong. So I don't know.

Here's, like, I think saying

you got hacked is so lame.

I agree. Here's what I think.

A Jolina a Jolina account, like, in Turkey getting on the hacking system and fucking shut up.

If I had to make a guess as to what happened just like I did with Tommy and Molly Mae, and let's not forget that, like, I completely crushed that 1. Absolutely, Slade. Oh my gosh. Like,

soothsayer. Alcohol.

Soothsayer. No. Alcohol. And she can take him back if he can cut out alcohol. And she's taking him back and he's cutting out alcohol.

Clairvoyant. Yeah. So here's what I think happened here. I don't think Justin Bieber was hacked by an unidentified third party. I don't even think it was a Jolina stan on in Turkey.

I happen to agree. I actually think that it might have been someone on Justin's team. Like, he's got a like, someone nefarious actor on his team

Oh, wow.

Who did something like this, and he's

got ties to Jolina.

Who has ties to Jolina or maybe doesn't like Hailey. Like, there's always, like, rumors about their relationship that I agree with you are on like, I think they're solid. I don't think this is a mark on them as a couple. I think it's a mark on someone who works for Justin.

Oh, there's so many shit. I had actually thought like, because Justin is this, like, diva, big star. I could see them, like, having an argument, like, a regular marital argument and him getting mad and him following her. Like, that's how I thought maybe that this went down. I agree.

I don't I I do not think he got hacked. I think it's actually really hard for a celebrity's Instagram account to get hacked. It used to happen a lot. I feel like it doesn't really happen so much anymore.

If I were to hack Justin Bieber's Instagram, like, I would post, I don't know, a link to Follow at the toast. Yeah. Yeah. Not and I'd say, like, new music, raising funds. Like, people would literally donate, and the person could get away unscathed.

Like, there's so many things you could do, Not unfollow the wife. And I just wanna say, I actually think that if they got into, like, a fight and he unfollowed her, like, that would be really crazy and, like, a really bad fight.

You have to remember these are, like, Hollywood type folks. Like, they do crazy things.

They do crazy thing. No. But that would, like, that would be a serious red flag. That's a crazy thing to do, especially when you know the whole world's watching. You wanna embarrass her like that.

Well, I don't know

how to make sense of this then because I happen to think that, like, there's a lot of hoopla around them, but at the end of the day, like, they're a really strong couple. And so I don't think that this is, like, a sign that they're getting divorced. But, like, but I also don't think he was hacked. So I don't know what happened here.

I agree with both of you. I don't think it's a sign of their relationship, but I do think that a couple people have access to his Instagram and are messing with him.

1 more thing about Conclave that just reminded me of something because The pope's bikini model? Yes. It feel I it reminded me a lot of that time that the pope's Instagram account had liked the photo, from an OnlyFans model's account. And we were all wondering how that happened. And I feel like now that I know a little bit more about, like, the systems in place, there is 0% chance that it was the pope himself.

And there is definitely a cardinal who's, like, a young thing, who's, like, taking it on to be I don't think it's, like, an intern per se. I think it's, like, an actual a man of the cloth whose specialty is digital, and he was, you know, playing around with the girls.

I agree. It was not the pope self.

No. It was like Conclave taught me that it wasn't the pope.

Yeah. Agreed. Are you ready for our next story? What number? Number 3, it seems.

Oh, yeah.

Some social media beef. Love. Spencer Pratt says he has beef with caller daddy host Alex Cooper for allegedly refusing to promote Heidi Montag's song. So Spencer Pratt is all over the interwaves, especially with TikTok going down in his big TikTok moment.

Mhmm.

But he's also sharing that he has some beef with Alex Cooper after she allegedly declined to promote his wife, Heidi's, new song. The couple made a lot

of content about this. Like, not only videos, but he also was doing an Instagram lot excuse me, TikTok live The night that TikTok went down with, like, Alex Earle and Bethenny Frankel. While he was on with Bethenny, he was talking nonstop about it.

Yeah. And a few other videos where he explained so when this started happening, he was asking everyone to post Heidi's song. He reached out to a bunch of people. He said she was the only 1 who wouldn't do it. He said at the time that she had said that, we have a lot of people displaced from the fires at our house, and I'm like, post the song, girl.

He previously had gone on her podcast, and I think he was saying, like, he's worn her merch, like, always supported, and that he didn't get that same support from her. Like, he said, like, she's number 1 on

the hit list now. And we're also getting intel into this, like, viral moment from their interview together because there has he had walked off the Call Her Daddy show. And I guess a lot of people thought that it was up until now, we thought it was fake. I thought it was staged, and it was. So Spencer is now making content about that viral moment, sort of pulling the curtain back and being like, yeah.

I mean, it was fake, but, like, she did ask that question, and, like, it was loaded, and it was rude. And we did 2 takes. So, like, he confirmed it was completely staged.

What was the question?

Does it, like, make you sad that you will never be as relevant as you once were? And, like, to Spencer, that's, like, the most hurtful thing you could say. And so he stormed off, and he shared that not only, she did ask that question, which she found to be really offensive, but they had done a take where he responded and said something like, nasty right back to her. And they didn't wanna use that take because they didn't wanna include something, like, nasty that he said about her. So he's just sort of, like, any sort any dirt he has, like, he's throwing.

Like, he's done.

Yeah. But he didn't tell us what he said back to her that was cut out, did he? No. I didn't see that.

No. No. No. He didn't. He didn't.

And then he was providing screenshots. Like, it's getting, you know, it's getting messy. Alex has since used the song. She put out a TikTok statement just about, like, places she's donating and encouraging others, and the song was playing in the background. And it was after Spencer already did all of this.

Right. So there's, you know, there's 2 things. 1, it's like it's not like Alex was making, like, a ton of content and actively not using the song. I believe that was the first time she had posted on social media. She is in LA.

She is directly affected. But 2, it's a low lift. Just do it. Everybody was doing it. Emily Ratajkowski was literally everyone was doing it.

Yeah. That and that's just, like, what influencers and celebrities do for each other. Like, I send you my product. You post it, whatever, and this is just, like, a song, and as you said, it's easier.

A low lift. Yeah. Yeah. Like, this is not a time to be fucking around with Spencer Pratt. Like, he's kind of got the world on your on his side.

He's extremely powerful right now.

He said he said, respectfully, if I keep my platform and I keep being an a list rich celebrity, she's so fucked because I have beef with her. She sounds like you in bed.

No. Literally. Literally, if I keep being a rich a list celebrity. And so, like, moments like this are kind of fleeting for anyone, but especially somebody who's, like, in the cycle of, like, reality star influencer. It's hard to keep the attention of the world.

So the fact that he actively has the world on his side and he's you know, it's kind of humbling to have to reach out to people and be like, can you please just stream my wife's song? So I I get it, and it's crazy. Like, it's seriously the beef I did not see coming.

I see coming.

She hasn't formally, like, gotten in the ring. You know? She hasn't responded, but she made the video sort of, I guess, like, white flag.

I guess. But he's kept going. Like, he posted before she made the video. She made the video.

She's still posting

the video, so that didn't move the needle for him. I don't see her responding to this, though. I don't see it. No. I don't see it either.

I think maybe she, like, marked herself as safe. Like, I I you know, all in all, I did do the song. I did do the thing you asked me. And then she does have a valid excuse. Like, living in LA, she said they're, like, housing a bunch of people.

I'm sure it's been, like, a crazy 2 weeks. But you could also make the argument that, like, you could've posted, like, 1 TikTok. It takes, like, 10 seconds. Like Yeah. Yeah.

You could argue both sides.

Yeah. Spencer said that he's team Sophia with an f now. He said Sophia with an f posted the song and did a dance.

Not only did Sophia with an f post the song, she posted it, like, the minute after Spencer made his first video about Alex. So she, like, she saw an opportunity and she took it. Yeah. So this thing is getting getting deep. And also I found really interesting was the Alex Earl of it all.

Yes. So, I was saying that Saturday night, the night before TikTok, as the TikTok was coming to an end, Bethany, Alex Earl, and Spencer, who are like 3 big personalities on TikTok, did a live together, and actually, it actively stopped. TikTok stopped. It was actually it was, like, kinda crazy. And earlier in the live, they were talking a lot about Alex Cooper.

And so I feel like for Alex and Earl to have been a part of that, I think a lot of people are now questioning, like, is there beef between Alex and Alex?

Well, I feel like the streets were saying that there were whispers that there's beef betwixt the Alexes.

Because they were, like, every everywhere, everything all at once, like, doing events. I haven't seen them together, like, interacting whether it's in person or even on social media in years. Her show is still a part of Alex's network. Years? Oh, I'm sorry.

You know me and time. A year.

To me, like, I don't see that as, like, necessarily a smoking gun, but I actually think, like, going on live with, like, your boss's arch nemesis at the moment is very telling. Like, that's It's indicative. Yeah. This it's told. I'm not even like, oh, it's smoke now.

I'm like, oh, there's beef betwixt the lixes.

But I also think, like, they're not showing up to events. I think that's, like, a core part of Alex's network is throwing these events, and not only do can you come and meet Alex, but you can come and meet all the other unwell swirlies that they just did 1 in Philly. That's, like, I think, a huge part of their, like, business strategy.

Yes. But I think that you could make the argument. Maybe you're you are right. But I For the biggest star,

not to she hasn't been to 1 in a while.

Would say the counterargument is that she was among the first to join the network, and she was the first 1 in the early days going to all the events. And now there are other people, and maybe they take up the torch right now. Like or there's beef between them. Or there's beef. Yeah.

I could also I think a lot of these things, like, can be explained, but when you put it Yes. The the live actually can't be explained, and Alex Earl, like, keeps making videos with the song.

With with the song. Yeah.

And that person was just, like, trash talking your Boston friend.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's definitely layered.

Yeah.

It's a layered 1. My coccydynia

is so fucking bad today. Like, oh, I'm so horny. If you're watching on YouTube, it looks like an actual grandmother is hosting this podcast. Coccydynia strong. Thank you.

Me and my community really, wanna I just genuine genuinely thank you for the advocacy you've done for us, and we are gonna give you our ambassador of hope award. Aw. There weren't any other contenders, so thank you.

That's so beautiful. Thank you. You're welcome. Are you ready for our next story?

I am.

Rachel Kirk and all sister claims that Matt James broke up just 3 hours before it took so long since we did a show.

Like, I forgot how much news there was.

I know. But I just have to, like, put a pin like, a button on this because until Rachel speaks out, this is what we know. Rachel's sister says that Matt James broke up with Rach just 3 hours before the shocking Instagram announcement he shared on Thursday. Trinity, the sister, shared the timeline hint under a TikToker's video about the breakup. Trinity had previously told the TikToker that Rachel and James were still together when he revealed they had separated.

James posted the photo of them, including them meeting at the famous bachelor mansion with his prayer. Trinity said that he had broken up with her 3 hours before he posted that statement.

I have to imagine everything Trinity because Trinity's been making news. You know? And I imagine it's all sanctioned by Rachelle. So for that, like, I feel good.

And my belief is that Rachel and like, as a follower of Rachel, I believe her sister is, like, in her content a lot. Like, they are close. Yes. No. This is coming through with a

lot of work.

Sister No.

Samantha. Who

hasn't seen her in years.

Right. Right. And, also, another thing that came out and, you know, I had seen a couple of DMs about these people being like actually, I only got it from 1 girl. It must've been the same girl who submitted to Dumont. She was like, please don't include my name, but, like, I am in Japan, and I saw Rachel and Matt together the day they announced their breakup.

And I was like, wait. What? And then that girl, maybe it was the same girl, maybe someone else, wrote into Dumas being, like, hi. I'm in Japan, and I literally saw these 2 the day they announced they broke up and showed a picture. So the timeline is coming together.

It's still pretty vague, but they weren't in London, which I think a lot of us could have guessed, them having. But they were together the day that they broke up, and they were also on a trip. That is really unbelievably strange. And the more this is like, it's seriously so weird, the whole thing. Yeah.

And I don't know who's gonna speak first.

Is it given the track record, Matt, how who we'd wanna hear from Rachel.

It's true. It's true.

Yeah. So I'm waiting to hear from her. The more I hear about the breakup, the more I'm happy that they broke up because he she deserves something different. You just really never know,

like, what's going on because I think a lot of people would have considered them, like, a really, really strong Mhmm. Everything seemed to be perfect couple. And not only is that not the case, but, like, now, of course, people do things, like, nefariously. But, you know, people go back and say, well, this was something weird that Matt did. And a lot of, like, his comments or things that, you know, was pulled from a podcast, like, it's not giving, like, supportive husband.

Yeah. Especially when it comes to, like, anytime they were asked about proposals. It was very much, like, him making her wait. And how funny is that? It's literally not

Yeah. But it's also, like, hard to judge that stuff, like, on its face because sometimes it is shtick, and, like, you have, like, a a story about your relationship that you put out to the world. But, like, we also don't know what it actually is, So I take that with a grain of salt.

A 100%, and it's not always in good faith. Yeah. Like, I'm not fully like, all signs indicates, like, Matt being the villain here, but I haven't seen enough full a 100% full proof. Like, I need to know Yeah. I need to know more before I can really Agree.

But it's not looking good. 3 hours.

No. It's not. It's not.

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Thank you slash chert. You're welcome. Our 5th and final story, a little hosting news. Host for the Grammy Awards 2025 has been announced. Oh.

And it is Trevor Noah again. So Trevor Noah will return as master of ceremonies of the 67th annual Grammy Awards for the 5th consecutive year. He also will serve as a producer on the show. Okay. Next.

Yeah. Well, you know what? I actually just saw I had 2 stories for the 5th, and I went with that 1. And I bumped the other 1.

Did we did we learn nothing from Nikki Glaser? Like, give it to the give it to the renegade. Like, the same group of people hosting ever like, Trevor Noah is now a Jimmy to me. Like Yeah. But the thing is host of 1 of those daytime show

nighttime shows. Excuse me. And it's just, like, it's boring. He they obviously like him. They think he does a good job.

And I think last year, we said, like, it was It was fine. It was totally fine. I do think Nikki Glaser will force him to, like, step his up because

For Trevor, it's not his It's

his tushy. It's tushy.

You guys know I saw Trevor Noah 1 time in real life, and he had, like, a really big tushy. It was just it's something that Tanya spoke about. Maybe maybe, You can add it to a list of Claudia's favorite stories. We were at Soho House having brunch, and it was buffet, so he got up to go to the buffet. And it was definitely the pants because they were, like, tight khaki, which is just a choice when you have, like, a big ass.

It's cute.

And he's wearing a belt too that was, like, cinching his waist, and it was just it was giving BBL. Like, it really was.

It's already on the list. I do think maybe he'll do a little bit more comedy now that Nikki Glaser set the bar so high, but I do remember remarking last year was totally fine, and, obviously fine. Grammys were fine with it. So the Grammys

were not gonna be giving, like, a diatribe like we did when Nikki Glaser did this, the Grammys and then we Oscars. And then we came on here and gave, like, a whole hour long speech about how amazing it was. There will be no such speech. No.

I doubt it. I mean, always holding space, like, for representation, but probably not. Grammys are February 2nd, so that's kind of soon, sneaking up on us. And, also, like, the Oscar nominations keep getting postponed because of the wildfires. But I do think that they But

they've been given a date.

Yeah. I think they're gonna get the show must go on.

There was, like, a theory that the Oscars were gonna be canceled this year. Oh, and it was so funny. It was making me laugh, not that it's funny, but, like, there was a TikTok from, like, CNN, like, something legit that was, like, Oscars heavily considering canceling stream just because it's, like, so out of touch. Right? And it's just like and that's what people wanted Tark to do.

Right? Like, cancel this sort of extravagant thing. Jackie, the comments were like, well, wouldn't it be better for them to put it on and donate the proceeds? So it's like, you literally can't win. If you cancel, like, you're not helping.

And if you go and donate, you're not helping and you're out of touch. Like, it was actually funny to me to see, like, both sides of the coin. I'm like, okay. Well, people are just impossible. Well, that's the

moral of the story. People are just impossible. People are also complex, and

I think that's really reflected in this week's dear toasters. Jackie, there is the craziest 1. I'll save it for last.

Really? Oh, maybe I won't be able to stop thinking about it. It's hard for me, you know, to toggle between DTs, but So I do

my best. Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I help 3 swirlies in need. They write to us about things that are going on in their lives, whether it's relationship related, work related, hygiene related sometimes. We have a little hygiene 1 today. And so whatever you need help with, if you ever are finding yourself in a pickle being like, I would love to hear from this fabulous Swirlies that I listen to every day, you actually can write into us, dear toasters atgmail.com, or head over to our website, the toast podcast.com.

Scroll down. There's a little submission box. Both are totally anonymous. Are you ready? Mhmm.

Hello, Swirlies. Okay. You have permission to laugh at this absolutely insane conundrum I found myself in. My husband is perfect in every way, but over the course of our marriage, there have been a few times that he has forgotten to flush the toilet, which is not the concern I'm, of course, bringing you today, although it is insane. My concern is that the few times this has happened, there has been no toilet paper in the toilet.

I'm starting in it's poop, just to be clear. Yeah. Yeah. My concern is that the few times this has happened, there's been no toilet paper. And I'm starting to get seriously concerned that he isn't wiping his chissey.

Do I ask him or just, like, let him do his thing? It's kind of embarrassing for him for him, and I'm sure no man wants his wife asking if he wipes his butt, but I also need him to start wiping his butt if that's the case. What do I do?

So I think you would totally ask him. This doesn't seem like a man who's easily embarrassed, or else he would think twice and flush the toilet. That's what someone who's, like, a a shy, embarrassed person would do.

I would like to offer, like, 1 sort of, like, saving grace alternative that, like, maybe, just maybe, the poops that he has not flushed are poops you took before a shower. Because sometimes if you're, like, about to get in the shower, like, unless you had explosive diarrhea, like, you don't need to wipe. Like, I would, but you don't have to. Have you ever ever done that? I've again?

Personally? Yeah. Like yeah. Okay. Like, I have.

Like, if I made, like, a pargy loaf that, like, was sort of

like that. That is so great. It's a good it's a good theory.

And then you're going to shower to to literally wash your ass.

I think it's something that toilet

paper gonna do compared to my body wash. Step 1. For sure. I'm just offering an alternative, and I just wanna say for the record, like, I don't do that all

the time. I would have never crossed my mind. However, I do, in thinking about it, think it's something that a man might do, so that could be 1. But I think you just ask him. Like, there's really no secrets, like, of the like, this between men and women.

It's not that embarrassing. Just be like, by the way, what are you

doing? Ever heard of toilet paper?

Yeah. Just find out. Like, this would, like seriously, curiosity would get the best

of me. And this is just a great reminder of the thing 1 time, speaking of your friend Sam, who stayed at your house this weekend, who's your new best friend, who you, like, don't need me anymore because of. Her husband 1 time

said, like, me for over 10 years.

For sure. For sure. Fuck her. No. I'm kidding.

Her husband 1 time said, like, truly 1 of the most profound things to me that I never forgot. Do you know

what

I'm about to say? I do. About wiping your butt? He was just like, it's really so crazy that, like, 99% of Americans feel it's sufficient to wipe their asses after, like, making a duty with toilet paper. Because, like, let's say you got pee it's, like, it's duty on your skin.

Right? Let's say you got duty on your finger. Would you just wipe it away with toilet paper? Like, no. You would use soap.

So I ever since then It's

not a fair comparison because, like, you eat with your fingers, and it needs to be a pain.

But, no. No. He in his defense, he send your arm. He sent your arm.

Yeah. Also, like, you it's out in the world. So I

just wanna say, like, I ever since then, my house is always fully stocked. I use, like, adult wipes. Mhmm. Cottonelle is my favorite brand if anybody cares, but I'll take whatever I can get. And I think more people need to get comfortable.

I know in other countries, bidets are, like, really, popular. Like, they're even in, like, public toilets and shit. That's, like, extreme for me. But I think a wipe like, as a country, the fact that we don't use more wipes like, there should be wipes in in every major public restroom.

Moral of the story, just ask him. He's not someone who can be embarrassed, and maybe he needs and if he is gonna be embarrassed, like, maybe he needs to be a little bit embarrassed so he starts flushing the toilet. Whether or not he wipes is his issue. If you hadn't noticed it, like, in another way you know? Right.

Like, when you're having sex, like, does it smell like poop?

No. Yeah. Like, then it's probably not an issue, but I would just wanna know for fun. For fun

to date. This one's this one's really crazy.

Okay.

Hi, Swirlies. I'm a working married mom of 2. A few months ago, I got a comment on a TikTok video I posted from a fake account telling me that my husband was cheating on me. It turned out to be true and that is being dealt with. My problem is whoever this person is that messaged me will not stop posting videos of me.

Screenshots of TikTok messages she sent me. But when I blocked her, she tagged my business, or she'll tag my sister. I can't get away from her. Who is she? What does she want?

Do I ignore it? Sincerely, an annoyed toaster who doesn't have time to deal with this bitch.

It might be your husband's mistress who wants to leave him and wants to ruin

your wife. With you.

And wants to ruin your life so that you leave him and that he's all hers. Who else could it be? This is,

like, so crazy to happen to just, like, a civilian. Yeah. You know? Not like a celebrity.

Yeah. But she also, like, has a business, and it seems like she maybe she's a little bit of a creator. So if she didn't have those things, like, I don't know if the person would have messaged her or emailed her or something. But either way, I think it's someone who is sleeping with your husband, obsessed with your husband once during your life.

Yeah. Or, like, slept with your husband once and, like, didn't get the relationship out of it that she wanted, so she's trying to, like, take you down. There are, like, not services, but there are people on the Internet who, like, are FBI investigators who can, like, find out who's behind a Finsta. And if it's, like, really bothering you, because I kind of would wanna know too. Or, honestly, if your husband is in the dog house, like, now would be a great opportunity.

Be like, oh, I need the names of everybody you slept with so I can cross reference them with my stalker. Yeah. And then once you find out the identity of the stalker, she's lost all of her power. Right? Right.

The power is in the anonymity. So you can then go to her place of business and give her a little bit.

Yeah.

Go to the brothel where she works and give her a little bit of her own medicine.

And if you are trying to reconcile with your husband, like, he can earn some points.

He has to come clean.

He can earn some points by sharing some names and, like, letting you know who he thinks this might be. And if you guys are splitting up, well, he could still do you a solid.

Yeah. Like, on your way out after burning the house down, if you could just be decent for 30 seconds, that would be great. Yeah. So I would start with him. Finding out the identity of your stalker is, I think, the first step in taking your power back.

Mhmm.

This 3rd and final tier toasters is 1 of the craziest ones that maybe we've ever had on our show. Okay. Not to be dramatic. Hello, Jackson Claude. I desperately need your advice.

My husband and I are very close with 2 other couples. My husband has known the guys since college. We all have kids the same age. We take trips together throughout the year, and we're pretty much together every weekend. All is this to say, we are very close.

Well, here's my dilemma. I was on my husband's phone looking for an email from my son's school to forward to myself. While looking, I noticed he had sent multiple naked photos of me to the 2 guys in our friend group, and the 2 guys had also sent naked photos of their wives to my husband. Some of the photos were ones I had taken myself and sent to my husband, and some he had taken of me that I had never seen before. Obviously, I feel weird about this and I don't know what to do.

Do I tell the other wives, aka my closest friends? Do I confront the guys about it? Help. Love you. Now what comes to mind immediately?

That guy in France.

A 1000% Giselle Picault or whatever her name is. If you don't know the story, it is probably 1 of the most Disturbing story. Disturbing. This woman who was married to her husband for, like, 50 years found out remind me how she found out again.

Oh, so the guy, he was caught, like, at the mall taking pictures, like, up girl's skirts, and so he was detained by the police. The police went through his phone, his computer And they found all of these photos and videos of his wife. So, basically, what he would do was he was drugging his wife, and then at night was letting men come and gang bang and rape his wife. And he had pictures and videos of it. And this was going on for years years years, and she had no idea.

And, of course, like, she suffered medical issues because of this, and it was just a mystery to her and her doctorate.

Is Gisele Pelicotte. Yeah. So he was and the the the trial just happened. It was, like, 70 men were all found guilty of, like, gang rape and and him, like, taking pictures of his daughters too, selling them, daughters in law selling so it was what I didn't even know humans could be that depraved. It it was huge news in France, and it made its way over here because it they all were just found guilty.

I haven't thought I stopped thinking about that story. Like, it was so upsetting. She would go to the doctor with all these, like, issues.

Yeah. Like Health issues. Issues, of course, like, vaginal health issues. Idea she was being raped every night. Loss.

Oh my god. Like, seriously so crazy. And, honestly, I don't wanna be dramatic, and I know everybody says tardy gets dramatic. This is giving her husband energy. Like, taking nude photos of your wife without her knowledge is such a crazy weird thing to do.

Sending them to other people. Like, now we are entering the territory of your criminal to me.

Yeah. That they have, like, a little thing going on.

Have some yeah.

A 100%. Absolutely.

You have to tell the wives.

Step, tell the wives. I would, if you could, like, just get screenshots of everything, get it to your phone so that you can, like, show them with their own 2 eyes. Like, it's so absurd they might not believe you. And then either confront the men. I don't know.

Like, go to the police. Go to their mothers. Like, this is so crazy. Go to their mothers.

I know. Of course,

like, you think about, like

On its surface, let's say, like, best case,

they're just, like, chunks

sharing. That's grounds for divorce in my opinion. Let's say even if it's nothing more disturbing, sinister, evil than that. Like, bitch, I'm walking around my house naked. That's the most, like, sanct what's the word I'm looking for?

Private, like, intimate and you're taking pictures of any of your friends? That's grounds for divorce. I think there's something even more disturbing going on under the surface. I don't even know what it is. So the fact that, like, the 3 of you them, like, do this, they're doing something worse with these photos.

These are fucking freaks. I agree. And even if they're not doing something worse, that is not your man. Your man protects you. Your man loves you.

Then your man would fight to the end of the earth to keep your body like your private, space. This man is your enemy. He's the devil.

Yeah. Call the police.

Call call the police, comma, call their mothers. Yeah. Sometimes calling someone's mom is more powerful than calling. But sometimes, like, you know, people end up being so fucking crazy because they have crazy parents too. Like, sometimes you'll tell someone, your son did this, and they're like, so?

So sometimes it's, I it's not a foolproof plan, the the mother's thing. But sometimes calling someone's mom, especially if they have, like, a, you know, like, an immigrant parent, oh, they don't fuck around like this. Like, very it's it's very cultural too sometimes. Call their parents. Yeah.

I don't need Jackie's right. Get all the evidence first before before he knows you're onto him because you sat like, this is so Farfetch. I I don't I've never heard of this. You need like, take your phone and film the chat. Yeah.

Film the chat. Film his phone while you're scrolling through the chat. Like, I think because too many screenshots at least a paper trail. Nope. And video this could be edited.

No. Video can't be edited. Film the fucking chat. Yeah. Good idea.

You send that shit to the wives. I like that you know and you have a little bit of head start because you need people are gonna think they're gonna doubt you because it's so crazy. You need unequivocal evidence. Really disturbing. I'm really sorry.

Like, that's such innovation of privacy. Yeah. And that's to your toasters. Yeah. Did I by the way, did I over exaggerate or, like, I left too much?

Feel sick.

I know. That's why I left it for last, so we can just wrap it up.

Okay. Let's wrap up.

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