Transcript of The Introverted Music Producer: Wednesday, January 15th, 2025

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Wednesday. That's right, it's Hump Day.

It is the day of the Hum. This week is just crawling by, don't you find?

On Toast tunes, we definitely need a Hump Day song. Like, Don't forget to Hump Someone You Love. It's like a dance beat. Don't forget to Hump Someone You Love. Don't forget to... Don't forget to Hump Someone You Love. Then we'll work on it, but just add it to the list.

I mean, add it to the list of of those tunes. Do we even want to go there? Because then we'll be sat doing this for 30 minutes and we don't have studio time booked and I'll be feeling inspired. No. But that, Claudia, I think I should add it.

Ever since the fucking Good Guys, we haven't even talked about this.

I think I should add it to my Manifest list of goals. It's really my goal list. It's not Manifest.

It's not Manifest. It's projects we need to tackle and just stop talking about.

I'm making it goals, okay?

We need to release some music. Now, the fact that the fucking Good Guys went ahead and wrote, recorded and released a song already for their podcast. If you guys haven't listened to the 2025 episodes of the Good Guys podcast.

We love you for that.

We love you for that. At the end of last year, Josh had written and recorded this jingle, and it's so good. It's really good. To basically intro all their episodes. Two Jews, both big and tall, no subject too small for the good guys. A mother's dream premium podcast team, make it your weekly routine, it's the good guys. And if you don't give us five stars, what are you nuts? We're going to be paying them royalties. What are you nuts? What are you nuts? Yeah, we're the good guys, no, not the great guys. We're just the good, good, good, good guys. Hey, guys. Welcome back to Good Guys. I'm so jealous. I literally texted Josh. I'm like, When is it an appropriate amount of time for me to wait for me to ask to write one for us? I want one.

Well, the good news is for Toastunes, this is two separate conversations. We need a theme song and a jingle that plays at the beginning of every episode. It's crazy how we just raw dog these episodes, whereas other people have elevator music. It's really welcoming you into this show.

That Joe Rogan one. The Joe Rogan one. It's all day. Joe Rogan all Yeah, and then Theovonne has a song. It's so good. Where are people getting these songs?

Even if you don't have an original song, everyone has some lovely royalty-free music that plays between the ad breaks and the beginning of the show, just a little buffer, and we raw dog it.

People have a whole week to release their episodes. We have literally three hours to get this shit up.

If we just had a clip, you could... Just like we, not going to put us on the spot, but just like we clip in GMM.

We pre-recorded Good Morning, Millenials a while ago. It hasn't been live in a while.

It's two seconds to put it in if we had a little music. But by the way, that's a separate project, just to say, to have music for our show. Toast tunes would be an album that would encompass a lot of the songs, the original songs that we write live here on the show. And it would also be great for you to listen to with your children.

Wait, I have such a good idea. We need to-It would also be a comedy album, so we could get nominated for a Grammy. The thing that I think is more important, and that actually is feasible, is getting a jingle made for the podcast. I have an idea. I have an idea. We should have a contest because if we could do it, we would have. We can't. I feel like we have a lot of musically inclined tosters. The thing I like about the good guys ones is not only is it musically very catchy and stuff, but it has jokes from their podcast, like, What are you nuts? I just need someone to do that for us. Seriously, if you want to make a video, post it on TikTok or Reels, tag Jacky or I. If someone makes a good one, I will pay you $5,000 for it. That's what I would pay for.

By the way, some people don't want to post something on TikTok or Reels. You can email it to us, too.

No, Jacky, part of this campaign and how I can justify the $5,000 is the press we would get from the engagement. I'm sorry, the engagement. People do this all the time on social media. I saw James Charles did something like it. I'm sorry, you have to put it on social media if you want to be-But the person who might be best for the job might be a private person who isn't posting.

So you could also submit via email.

You could post a private voice memo. You could make a private voice memo.

They can't submit via email?

No, Jackie, it has to be a social media campaign, I'm telling you. And then everyone gets to get involved, and it's really fun. I've seen it go really very viral for certain people. Like, James Charles for his company had... I forget what it was. People do it all the time, and it's actually really smart. So if you are musically inclined and you want to write a 30 to 60 second jingle for the toast to be... Our theme song. Our theme song for the beginning of the show, you can record a video of yourself playing on the guitar or the piano. We will have it produced and everything, but we just are looking for somebody whose song we can purchase from you. You will win $5,000. We will have it produced? Yeah, of course. We'll get in the studio. That part's easy. Okay. It's actually having the I have a song written. Once we have the song, I could get us in the studio by tomorrow, Jacks. Do you know the influence I have in the music community?

We're in a studio.

Yeah, but I mean a music studio.

No, but that's why I'm saying if someone emailed an audio track that was ready to go.

No, but it can't be ready to go. It has to be our voices.

Does it?

Yeah, of course. No, no. Okay, Jackie, you're making this more confusing than it needs to be.

But what if someone's shy? You're not thinking about the introverts. The introverted music producers.

I'm sorry, the introvert, this one's not for you, okay? Wow. The introverted music producers.

Okay. You're not being inclusive.

I'm sorry. I'm not. Okay? Yeah. Thank you. I'm not.

You're centering yourself and the only thing you have yourself type of person.

Yes, correct. If you want to get involved, you can post on TikTok or your reels. You just have to tag.

Oh, thanks for throwing reels in.

Yeah, I want to be inclusive. Tag the toast. Tag Jacky or I so we can see it. Should we have a hashtag so we can find all the places? Hashtag Toast tunes challenge.

No, too long and Toast tunes is a separate project. Toast theme song.

Okay, hashtag Toast theme song. Keep it simple. And by the way, I will pass away if nobody submits.

Well, that's what's going to happen, isn't it?

Yeah, that's what's going to happen. I will die not being like, James Charles did it. Yeah, he has 10 million followers. Seriously, just to save my reputation, somebody please.

It's also a tall task. This could take this person a bit of time. Yes. And now they also have to get camera ready. So let's give it a few days. And what had you said, let's back to the cash prize.

Yeah, the cash prize. Well, we would have to pay someone to write a song for us anyways. I'd rather give it to a toaster. So if you write a song that's good enough for us to choose, the winning song wins $5,000. That $5,000 also comes with the contract where we own the song. We're buying it from you. But yeah, it's a prize, and it's also a fee for your work. Yeah. $5,000. I think that's a fair price.

I think that's a really good price.

Yeah.

That's fun.

And so if you're an introvert, but maybe 5,000 dollars extroverts you, that's perhaps the motivation you need.

Okay, but say you're an introvert and you never really post on your social media and your friends and family follow you, and all of a sudden, you post a video of yourself. Make a new account. Oh, you're going to make a new account. But you post a video, sing this song.

I'm sorry, it's $5,000. You have to work a little hard for it.

And what if you don't win?

Well, you can always delete the video. Don't worry.

I'm thinking of you guys out there. If you're introverted, just know. I tried.

Just know this one's not for you. #toasttheme song, tag the toast, tag Jacky and I. It doesn't need to be fully produced. I mean, if you want to make a fancy video to stand out, of course, do you? But it's time. I'm so jealous of the good guys. Their song is so good.

It is really good. And It would be nice to really segue people into the show. Musically. Get them in the mood for a little toast.

Just in terms of if you're looking for a little bit of inspo, it definitely needs to be an upbeat dance tune.

I would say Chef's Choice.

Yeah, okay, you're right. You guys know us. Extrovert's Choice.

Extrovert's Choice, even though I think that this is... I feel like music producers are very introverted, like Matthew Koma.

The thing is, it's literally not Do you know what I mean?

No, I know it's not. I'm just saying, at the end of the day, we want the best song, right? Best song wins. We do.

Best song wins. So, you know. Raise your voice. Get comfortable being uncomfortable.

Yeah. And just please submit anything. Please. So the hashtag is Toast Theme Song. Just something. I am going, you know what I'm going to do? I am preemptively, esthetically, going to follow the hashtag. Going to follow the hashtag on Instagram.

And by the way, when we post on Instagram today, we have to just use the hashtag just so it's not empty.

I'll be using the hashtag on everything. I'm going to put it on all my old videos.

Oh my God, I'm fucking crying. That's funny.

No results found for Toast Theme Song right now, which is good. It will be ours.

Is it? Yeah. It's ours. Unfortunately.

For better or for worse.

Oh my God, funny. Okay, I'm excited about that. Hashtag Toast Theme Song.

A little social media challenge. Just I'm going to kick off the hum day.

Who am I, Ben? What's next? A giveaway?

Oh, maybe.

That's him. Okay, I have to tell you the funniest thing. Do you see my hair look amazing? I got a blow yesterday.

Yes.

So I just treated myself to an in-home blowout with my hair stylist, who I haven't seen in months. I literally, I do my own hair, and I just don't go anywhere. So I haven't seen him in so long. And he comes in, and he's Latin. So I'm going to do an accent, and it's important because it's a funny thing. I'm doing the accent for the story, okay?

Just don't be offended.

He's giving me such weird looks. He's looking at my body and I'm like, Excuse me? He's like, Girl, you get implants? I'm like, Excuse me? No, I'm pregnant. He was like, What?

He had no idea. How did he have no idea.

I don't know. I'm like, Are you not following me on Instagram? I haven't seen him in so long, but still, he was like, You have implants? I'm like, No. But I guess it's a good thing like that. My body's changed so much. I haven't seen you since probably my matches, and your major takeaway was that I got implants.

Because if it was waking, he would have said so. He would have been like, Girl. Of course.

He would have said, Girl, are you pregnant? Yeah, literally. I just about died. I was wearing a particularly unsupportive bra. I was in my pajamas, so I was looking a little crazy. I guess I could see how he thought that.

Yeah.

But I guess Ben was like, You should take that as a compliment. Someone who hasn't seen you in months, that's what they think.

Yeah. Really pop off with your implants.

You got implants? I'm like, Yeah. That's what I'll start telling people.

Or just the truth, which is a beautiful, wonderful thing.

Oh, yeah, right. I don't know why I'm acting like I have something to hide. Right. Well, I don't want to set a bad example for other teenagers because teenage pregnancy can be really, really hard. It can be. I'm getting through it.

Yeah, it could be a beautiful thing.

Of course, of course. But it's not always the best path for everyone. Yeah. And that's what me and my other teen moms believe.

What's with you? Not too much. We actually have such good stories today that I don't want to hast in us, but they're really good. No, let's fuck you up. Let's do it. No, I feel like we need another moment. And also let everyone know we have great stories. And then Real House Eyes of Beverly Hills recap today.

Which is such a good episode.

Which was such a good episode. I have so many thoughts.

So do I. It's the thing with this season and these women is like, I can't get comfortable in my Stan-hood or my hatred because the second I start disliking someone like Sutton, she goes and speaks the truth. The thing is, when she speaks the truth on someone you dislike, you're into Sutton. But then sometimes she gets a little full of herself, emboldened, if you will, and she speaks the truth on other things, and it's like, Stop.

No, and it's like, why are you... Even though it's the truth, it's like, why do we need to say that? Why is that necessary? You're hurting someone.

Objection, relevance.

Yeah, right. Same with Garcel, who is really just been on my non-faves list with Dorita on my faves because they, seriously, they're not even beefing. They just dislike each other. They don't even see each other. Right. But she was given some factual opinions and holding Kyle to account. I appreciated that. It was a very interesting episode. We'll get into it.

Yeah. Kyle has no one in this group, so she latched herself onto Garcel and Sutton.

No, and it's like you could feel how weird it is because It's like back in the day, they were the two outcasts. Kyle was the head of the group with all of her friends, and now the friends have gone or they've left her, and now she's like, Hey, guys. Hey, best friends.

What are we doing today? Yeah, should we go to Chuck E. Cheese? Seeing the three of them together, not once, but twice, tennis and then Chuck E. Cheese. I was like, What is this crew? And then I realized the only person Kyle really has on her side is Sutton, and Sutton is still not even afraid to call her out, which I really appreciated. Yeah. We'll get into the recap after the stories, which I'm shocked to hear you say are good. I feel like with the fires and everything, they've been like, Yeah, people are otherwise preoccupied.

But no, some interesting stories today. So without further ado, let's get into the fast five stories that you need to know.

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Our first story, big news from across the on, Tommy Theory reveals the real reason why he split from Molly May. So Tommy Theory has finally detailed the reasons why he and fiance Molly May split. In an emotional interview with Men's Health, carefully timed days before Molly May's much-anticipated documentary is which is in two days, let the countdown show. Tommy became dependent on alcohol following a boxing injury and admitted his mental health was in the pan. Amid rumors that their breakup was a publicity stunt, Tommy spoke candidly about his mental health battle and insisted he has never cheated on Molly May, calling rumors about other women, complete and other bullocks. He said, who is this bitch? Who is this bitch anyway? But let's focus on the primary source. He said, the reason why me and Molly broke up was because I got addicted to alcohol and I couldn't be partner that I wanted to be anymore, he confessed. On the one hand, I feel like I'm right, and on the other hand, I feel like, did he hear what I said? And then- Yeah, by the way, because you literally said, what if he's an alcoholic and he didn't cheat?

You literally said this.

No, what I said was, what if he's an alcoholic and he only cheats when he's blackout? And so if he could swear to Molly and never have a drop of alcohol again, could she take him back?

Yeah, but he said that he didn't cheat, so you're half right.

Right, right, right. Anyways, he said, It kills me to say it, but it's true. I couldn't. I loved a pint of beer. It love to drink, and it is what it is. People go through different things in life, and we all have our crosses to bear. I've got mine to bear. Basically, 2023, he said, was the best year of his life. His daughter was born. He won two multimillion pound boxing matches. And then in 2024, he was injured He broke all the ligaments in his hand, and he couldn't fight anymore. He was replacing the adrenaline and anorphins he used to get from matches and practices with alcohol and was just drinking, Drinking, Drinking, going on Bender weekends, Budapest, Ms. Hungary's there. Just a bad scene.

Yeah. Well, the fact that Tommy and Molly were spotted together somewhat recently makes me think that this is an approved podcast, Molly and him are working together on some strategy with her upcoming documentary. This is Molly approved, right?

Yes. What I'm seeing is that the documentary, previous episodes, will show some of their reconciliation and probably talk about what happened between them. He's just saying it first, and then we'll probably see some of the aftermath in the documentary. And now they are currently filming episodes for the spring episodes that come out of them being back together and going on dates and working through it. So I think it makes sense that Tommy got to share his truth on his own, in his own moment, because I doubt he would just want... I'm sure they're communicating about these things, but for her to be like, Well, Tommy's an alcoholic. That's not really something you out someone about.

Yeah, no, they have to say it publicly on their own terms. That's a good way of looking at it. I have two questions. One, I had not heard any rumors that this breakup was a publicity sign. Is that a UK tabloy thing? I didn't even hear that.

Well, if they're getting back together, then it makes you question. Not me. Sorry. It makes other people question, not I, because- It doesn't make me question at all. I think them breaking up and breaking the hearts of the entire world was so hard for them. The only thing I don't understand is their breakups seem to be extremely immediate. Together one day, done the next, That means something happened, because if it's a slow roll, they could have been living separately before we knew, and then they announced. But we're literally seeing him packing his bags and moving out.

Watching him pulling out of the G-Wagon.

So maybe all of the drinking led to an unforgivable incident. Maybe it wasn't cheating, but maybe it was something else. But I do think it reached a peak because the way their breakup rolled out was like, oh, wow, something. This was like a switch that was flipped.

I have to bring up that awful podcast woman who A lot of people had assumed that he had cheated on Molly Mae with absolutely no proof. But why else would these two break up? And then this girl went viral. She went on a podcast, and she said that in Dubai, she was one of four girls. Tommy had sex with that night, and she was so proud of it. She's become an influencer because of it. She's one of the most wretched-looking he's ever seen in my life.

She's one of the most despicable people I've ever seen. Internally, I don't care what she looks like. And I also saw another clip of her bragging about how she used to throw her dirty drawers her dirty undies on her stepfather and then film his reaction, and he lost his job because of it. And she was really proud because she was getting a lot of followers. This is a morally bankrupt person. I would not believe a word that this person says, and I'm not going to top Tommy, we know him as well as you could know any influencer. He seems like a- He has more trust.

By the way, I'm not saying what about what she said. I'm saying, how do you let someone talk about you like that? So untruthful without... I I don't know what the laws are in the UK, but there have to be certain laws against just saying whatever the fuck you want.

Yeah, but are you really going to take your time to go and sue this deranged person?

I would. Maybe. That made the whole thing... It got so big because of that clip.

Not for my POV, maybe for other people, but really not for me. I feel like it was just like, Oh, these are the whispers. And there was that night in Dubai, and there was that night with like, Greg and Chris Brown.

There was that night in Dubai, there was that weird video.

Yeah, and the video at the table. So it just added that.

So it was like, Why wouldn't we believe it?

But this isn't a person that I'm not going to take her word. I'm just not.

No, I fucking hate this girl. Every time I see a clip of her, whether it's that original clip that went viral or now she does podcasts talking about how disgusting she is. I have a very physical reaction. I fucking hate her.

I don't even know her name. I don't want to know her name. Me neither. I just know her face and her voice and how she gloats about the absolute most abhorrent Yeah, I feel like her name is Katie, but I'm not sure about that. Yeah. Anyways.

Let me say, Tommy Furry looked very good on that podcast. He looked clear eyes, full hearts, looked mentally lucid. He looked good.

Yeah. So two days her documentary job, so we'll start to get more answers, and we'll see Molly's perspective on it. And I hope that they can rebuild it. And just like I said, when I was speculating, not speculating, I was giving a theory as to how they could get back together. I do think that if he can cut out drinking, the behavior, the thing that makes him behave badly, then can't he go back to being the Tommy that she loves?

Yeah, because these are two people who are meant for each other, right? We've been talking a lot about that, as it pertains to Page and Craig. I think what we're all realizing is actually, maybe these two weren't right for each other in the end. It wasn't. But with Molly and Tommy, they actually are each other's persons, and life gets in the way, and people's flaws get in the way, and you have to work through it. I'm a champion of them working through it, and it's actually very human of them to be going through this. I don't think it was a publicity stunt.

No, neither do I. I feel like even when we're sad about Paige and Craig, there's always that voice that's like, Well, who will they date next? That will be fun, and you can see them with other people. It was never like that for Molly. As a fan of Molly, I never was like, oh, Molly, get out. It's just they have a child together. We all watch their love story. I feel like so much of their story was a storybook romance, and it's easy to be in a A thriving relationship when things are going so well. But this really has, even in 2023, like he said, he was winning all those fights, a lot of money, and then he's down and out. If you can get through something like this, you can get through life.

Yeah, because what they're getting through isn't an issue in their relationship. It's a personal issue that he's having that's creating a blockade in their relationship.

Affecting their relationship.

I think he's been not home. Yeah, but it's not like they can't communicate or they have infidelity. It's not like a relationship issue. It's like a person struggling, and obviously, then the struggles come between two people.

Yes, but if you can take out the alcohol.

Of course. If we work on Tommy, it sounds like a resolution is possible.

Yes.

I'm happy for these two.

Me as well.

And I was like, when I did think he cheated, I was happy to see them back together. But I'm like, come on. You never want to see that. You want to see the cheater lose. And so even though you champion two people getting back together in their family, it doesn't feel good to get back together with somebody It's tough, and it doesn't always work out.

Do you believe him when he says he never cheated on Molly?

Yeah, I do, because it's pretty much before he said that, it was just a truth. We just It's like... So to undo a truth like that and lie about it, it's hard, and a fruitless endeavor.

I believe him, too, because he could have not brought it up. And if the other person brought it up, he could have been like, Listen, I've done things I regret when I was drinking, and I will always regret direct them until the day that I die.

But to say blanket, I've never cheated. I have to believe you.

We've not caught him in a lie before. Once someone's a liar, once you've seen him lie...

And by the way, Molly will not lie on her documentary. If he cheated, it will be in the documentary, and it will negate what he just said. And he looks like a liar. Yeah. It will look crazy.

I will believe someone unless I have seen them lie before.

And I guess the only true evidence we have is that just awful girl. In a court of law, I'm throwing the evidence out.

She is not a reliable witness.

It's inadmissible. Yeah.

So two days.

Did you watch Jury number 2 yet?

No, not yet.

I'm just letting you know your content plate is holding up my life.

Sorry. Let me write it down because I actually have been watching a bit of TV, and I'm not knowing what to watch.

And your husband wants to watch Jury number 2. I spoke to him about it.

Did he watch it without you? No, no, no, no, no, no. But tonight should be the night because Southern Charms not on tonight.

You should watch it. I'm surprised it's not getting any awards season hype. I don't know if it's because it was just released on max.

Maybe because it was good, no?

Yeah, Yeah, right.

Are you ready for our next story, which is a movie drama? Justin Baldoni is demanding that Disney holds on to documents to support his claims, Ryan Reynolds used Nice Pool to bully him. When I first saw this I was so confused.

It wasn't English to me.

My brain felt like, Mush, nice pool?

What the hell is nice pool?

What the fuck is nice pool?

Now that I understand it, I just want to say, never really been a Ryan Reynolds fan. Currently, huge Ryan Reynolds fan.

I just am so glad that I don't watch these stupid movies. Anyways, here's what Nicepool is, because Justin Baldon is seeking to gain communications made about Ryan Reynolds' Nicepool character in an attempt to show it was used to bully him. In his movie, Deadpool and Wolverine, that came out this summer, apparently a character was created called Nice Pool, and he's a cringe male feminist.

Who has a podcast in long hair.

Yeah. And Baldoni and others think that this character was made to make fun of Justin Baldoni. His legal battle, he's responding to Blake Lively's sexual harassment and retaliation claims, and they sent a litigation hold letter on January seventh to Marvel CEO's President and Disney CEO, demanding they hold on to documents that mention Baldoni for potential use in court. According to the letter viewed by people, they want any and all documents relating to the development of the Nice Pull character and communications relating to the development, writing, and filming of story lines and scenes featuring NicePool.

To The thing is, they can ask for shit all they want. Marvel is not being subpoena. They do not have to hand over these documents. I have a hard time believing they're going to give up documents that if maybe make Ryan Reynolds look bad or guilty when Ryan Reynolds is one of their biggest stars. He just did a huge Deadpool franchise. Him, this letter is like, I want this. I want a lot of things.

No, but also, say Ryan Reynolds was ticked off by Justin Maldoni, created a character that's-Not illegal. Not illegal. The claim is that they're looking for documents relating to or reflecting a deliberate attempt to mock, harass, ridicule, intimidate, or bully Baldoni through the character of nice pool.

What? It's called inspiration, first of all. Second of all, Justin Baldoni, you agree. You're like a fake male, awkward, cringe feminist.

And also, so there's... Nicepool barely made the movie, by the way. There's some deleted scenes of this person, and one of them, he said how he's going to monetize the feminist movement for his podcast. With a podcast, yeah. And then he also compliment Ladypool, who is played by Blake Lively. What is Pool? This is so stupid, okay? What is this movie?

I'm not sure. You're so asking. Ask your husband.

So Lady Poole and Nice Poole were talking just like Justin and Blake.

As two pools do.

As two pools do, and And then, as Ladi's pool said to Lady Poole, You look so good for just having a baby.

Okay, I just want to say, I don't think there's really any doubt that Justin Baldoni was the inspiration for this character, this scene, this dialog. It's in the documents, and then it's on your screen.

It's worth noting that the timing of the filming of Deadpool: Wolverine and It Ends With Us are very concurring. So the movies came out at the same time, which meant they were being filmed at the same time. So if Ryan Reynolds added this, it's because of things that happened in tandem on It ends with us set.

So the timing is there. Am I crazy, or is Justin Maldoni validating- Outing himself. Outing himself, validating that maybe he did say that to Blake Lively. And two, just that that's what the vibes were, that they were contentious and you were being a fake female. I don't understand why this helps Justin Baldoni's case, because it's not illegal to use someone as inspiration.

So here's what. There's two things. There's the case, and then there's the court of public opinion, which one could win one and lose the other, but both are important, and you could argue each one is equally more important because this is their job is being in the public. What Justin Baldoni needs to prove in court and to the public is that Blake and Ryan were setting out to launch a smear campaign against him because of what happened on the set of It Ends With Us. That is why he hired Crisis PR- Defensively. And started positioning himself as a good guy, as an attempt to thwart whatever was coming his way. But because that never really happened, it just looked like he was going after her.

An offensive attack. Yeah, no, that's a good point.

So that's what he needs to prove. And he's using Nice Pool as a way to show, they're making fun of me. And this is one piece in the larger thing that was set to destroy Justin Baladoni, that he worked preemptively against.

Understood. Well, I don't really feel like anything I've seen from a legal standpoint. I don't think he has a strong case because, again, even if there's a document, an email that says, I am creating a character named Nespool, and I am going to base him off of this guy who worked with my wife. That's not illegal. So I don't think his legal case has really any merit, but I do think that him filing these things... I do think he's chipping away at the good faith Blake had received from her complaint. And I do think he's successfully turned public opinion around a little bit after because it was always team Justin. And then her complaint, which had a lot of screenshots, a lot of evidence, and a lot of really damning stuff did wonders for her. And honestly, it was crazy because people were just so committed to disliking her that it was really compelling stuff that it ended up flipping for him. And now he's with his complaints and his subpoenas and his suits. And I do think it's actively, he's making headway for himself. I don't know where we landed in terms of public opinion.

I don't think we're split. I think the public is more so leaning towards Justin.

Yes, but I also think we're headed towards a place place of apathy and confusion. Yeah. And everyone just being like, well, we don't know.

And at this point, we really don't care.

Yeah. It's really a bit too messy. It's hard to keep everything apart. You can't keep reading all these lawsuits. We're just...

It's your problem. We have to go back to paying our bills and going to work. It was fun, for sure. And we wish you all the best, but.

Yeah, but I guess the outcome is like, Okay, so what should come of this? Should either one of them be canceled? Are they both safe to work with again for the industry and also just for people? Because the way I feel is like, I'm going to go back to consuming each of them the same way I did before any of this, which is that I don't really engage in his stuff because it's not for me. And when Blake drops a swirly film, I'm there.

Yeah, right. And it's nice to see her with the swirlies at the Rhode Island compound, which I don't know if you saw is getting an extension. I did see.

She needs one. His house is a little small.

A hundred %. Taylor's house in Rhode Island. People found the permits. So basically, she's taking... It's actually crazy, the amount of things you know about people who are famous. Her master bedroom, the master bedroom as it is now, is becoming the bathroom and closet and lounge And then the extension, which is, I think, an additional 500 square feet, is becoming the actual bedroom, where the bed is.

She's got a big husband.

Yeah, it's true. She needs bigger furniture, bigger chairs. She needs bigger everything. The guys that she used to date, literally, weighed less than her, like skinny little British guys. So all the furniture is definitely antique. And Travis probably cracked a chair.

For sure. He's got big protein shakes to put on a night stand. He needs bigger furniture. It's so true. He needs more.

No, and you know he's just aggressive. When he opens a drawer, he pulls it really hard, and it comes off the hinges. She can't be with this little dainty, our antique tables that she finds in Paris. She needs restoration hardware.

She's shopping CB2 now, for sure.

Not even. What's the big and tall equivalent of furniture stores? Restoration hardware, everything there's huge. Honestly, like Raymore and Flatingan, it needs to be good American made shit. Lazy boy. Lazy boy. You know Travis definitely has a recliner in the corner.

Now, she has all these nieces and nephews. She needs more bedrooms. She has all these friends. I don't know how they were all just sharing rooms over that. Whose birthday was it? Blake's birthday when they had the party.

And then also July fourth. She said so many- All of her friends have kids.

I'm sorry, that house is way too small.

I bet you she's making the basement into a kids- Bunk room. Bunk area. Yeah, so much fun with a little play gym.

Oh my God, and the Kelsey girls and the Reynolds girls.

So cute. You know, what's the name of one of the Kelsey girls?

Elliot, Wyatt.

Why it's going to be like, You heard the rumors from me, Nez, you can't believe a word she says. And they're just going to be in the basement starting drama.

Totally in the basement starting drama. So yeah, I saw that.

Such cousin behavior.

I guess she could have moved, too, but moved on the island to a bigger house.

She couldn't. First of all, we're joking. The house is fucking huge.

Oh, yeah, we're so joking. The house is tiny.

And I'm sure the only bigger houses in Rhode Island are those Rockefeller museums. Like the breakers. Those old summer cottages that are now... I went in high school, a tour. They all have velvet stanchions. You can look around, but they're the old Rockefeller and Vanderbilt houses. That's what she needs.

Yeah, she does, because that house is super small.

Actually, she loves her Rhode Island house, a A lot. I think an unfortunate part of it is it's really not private because it's next door to a public beach. People knew that she was doing construction because they just took a picture of the house and there was a tarp. I think she hates it. She likes it so much because it's really not very private. Meanwhile, I've never seen her LA house. Even her Nashville house, I feel like is so... I've seen an aerial view of it. I don't know what it looks like. Of course, the New York apartment, we know the building from the outside, and she does like that a lot because it's super private. But her Rhode Island house is her least It's a nice private house. We just know so much about it. I mean, we're talking about blueprints.

I know, but she probably is also like, Oh, they think they know so much, but we don't know what goes on.

It's true. Actually, we don't know a lot about what it looks like inside. We're always seeing pictures of the outside and the beach. But her LA house is where she did Vogue 73 questions. So we literally saw the whole thing when she was walking through. New York is where all pictures of her baking, it's all in New York. All the reputation that AT&T, like video diaries she did when she was writing Reputation, when she was hiding after Kanye, that was in the Nashville house. So we've seen the interiors of most, not Rhode Island.

Yeah, but now we can guess that it's Furnished.

Maybe she'll do an AD spread with her new big American furniture. I mean, the whole theme of that house is American, right? She always does July fourth there. It's always red, white, and blue. It makes sense that her and Travis would be redoing it for America.

Yeah, and for bigger people.

Correct.

It's so American. They got to raise the ceiling. When the house was built, people were shorter back then.

Don't you find? Yes, Rebecca Harkness, 100 %. Yeah.

That's the latest with Justin V. Blake. This is the craziest. What a nightmare. I know we said this last time, but like, what a nightmare movie.

I do find myself caring a lot less, and this was a subject that at one point I couldn't sleep. I was thinking about it over the summer, nonstop. And so I've really stopped caring. No, I haven't stopped caring. I'm sorry, I haven't because I still find this nice pool thing hilarious and interesting. But my level of interest has definitely decreased it, and I think it's going to continue trending downward. Yeah, same.

Are you ready for our next story? What number? Number three. Oh, yeah. Kate Middleton reveals she's in remission from cancer after a surprise hospital visit. So Kate Middleton is in remission four months after completing her cancer treatment. The Princess of Wales announced the happy news on Instagram Tuesday while sharing photos from her surprise visit to the Royal Marsden in London where she received treatment. She said in her post, I want to take the opportunity to say thank you to the Royal Marsden for looking after me so well during the past year. My heartfelt thanks goes to all those who have walked quietly alongside William and me as we have navigated everything. She went on to say that she couldn't have asked for more from the medical staff who provided exceptional care and advice during her time as a patient. She had then announced that she had taken on the role of joint patron of the hospital now that she's in remission and has returned to her royal duties.

She said it very casually. She had a long caption about her visit to this hospital. At the very end, she dropped the word remission. Everybody was like, Wait. So it was the first we heard of it. She's not making a big deal of it. I think you probably don't want to jinks it either because remission is great, but it can always come back. And I didn't know you could be in remission after four months. I thought it had to be at least a year.

Four months after finishing treatment.

Yeah. I thought it had to be a whole year where all your scans and tests come back positive. But what the hell do I know? I'm not. I'm sure the doctor's at Royal I wanted to know a little bit more. I'm really happy for her. I think taking on a role within the hospital is so royal. You have to do some philanthropic element, and this is so personal. It's great. I'm happy for her, and I hope that this chapter is truly behind her and over.

Yeah, same. Some good news, and I hope for happy days ahead.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story? Another queenie. Rihanna Chicken Fry is on the cover of SI Swimsuit. A Digital Issue. Si Swimsuit and Brianna Chicken Fried, Lepaglia, have shared-Oh, wait.

She pronounced her name in the video. L. The G.

Yeah, she did. Yeah.

Lepaglia? Is that what she said?

She didn't call herself Brianna Chicken Fried. It felt like a move towards a...

Like a genesis. A new era. A rebirth, yeah. I like how she has not corrected a single person on her last name because everybody says Lepaglia. It's Lepaglia.

Yeah. I wonder if she's trying to intentionally be Lush Chicken Fried, or it's like, I'm on the cover of a magazine, I'm going to use my last name.

Yeah, I think it's probably that because I think she likes having a nickname and a username internet persona. It helps with branding. It's all good.

Yeah, it is good. She was just named the cover model for the publications January 2025 Digital Issue, and she said the gig was all about reclaiming herself. She raved about having the freedom to do whatever she wants, which obviously sounds like a shot at Zack Bryant, who she is accused of being emotionally abusive during their year and change of them dating.

She said- I was shocked to see this.

I know.

She said it- Genuinely I'm surprised.

It means so much more to me than feeling sexy and being in a cool location. She said, I'm allowed to do what I want to do. I'm allowed to do it in any fashion, in any amount of clothes in front of whoever I want, and no one has the control over you to tell you what you can or cannot do. She said she was feeling all the emotions throughout the shoot including some nerves, but you wouldn't be able to tell based on the end result.

No, she looks sick. Let me tell you, her body, her torso is so long. I was really shocked to see this.

Her legs are so long.

Sports Illustrated does a really good job of incorporating content creators, influencers, notably like Zandra and Alex. And so I think to be chosen is a really big honor because it's not like they're all an influencer company. They still maintain the integrity of models, but they include digital people, which I really like in a balanced way. So for Brianna to have been picked is a huge honor.

It is, but also for their digital cover, they do a lot of digital... It's a very niche selection of people because it's like, digital people that are also like, Bacquini models and also personalities and also very relevant right now. So they do a really good job.

You get the same level of photoshoot as if you were in the print magazine.

They do a really good job of picking people. The pictures are beautiful. It's exciting for the fans of the influencer, and it's just great for Sports Illustrated as well, because then they're really in the news year round as opposed to just the annual issue. So I think this is brilliant for everyone. And actually something that I probably wouldn't have thought to expect, which I love. It's very unexpected. There are some things I feel like, oh, obvious, duh. But this is like, that's a brilliant idea, and I wouldn't have thought of it.

I completely agree. The photos were insane. She literally looked like a mermaid with her long hair, and I never saw a torso like that.

I know.

Oh, to be young.

I feel like she obviously has some healing to do, and she needs time for herself, and she's just enjoying her life. But I do look forward to seeing who she will date next.

I'm so happy to be able to tell you this. Big news from the Trip It With Tert trip. Brianna brought a guy with her, and she They're doing a bunch of interviews with the Tarte Cosmetic Social Team. They're like, Who'd you bring with you? Who's your plus one? And Brianna is like, I brought my non-boyfriend, boyfriend, non-boyfriend. He's been showing up in a lot of people's videos. He's just a guy, not a whatever. He's super cute. It seems like they're really just having fun and hooking up. If I was Brianna and I looked like that and I was young and everybody was wanting to go out with me, I'd take a guy on the trip with Tarte Trip, too.

Right. That's not what I meant.

No, of course not. Of course not. Also, I've been seeing a lot of discourse about the trip up with Tartip. I'm like, you don't understand. I am knee deep.

In Necker Island.

Do you want to know what's going on? I'll tell you everything you can possibly need to know.

You know what I want to know? What's the beef between Brianna Lepaglia and Ken?

Well, they actually asked it last night. They made up.

Of course they did. What was the original beef?

It was like, actually, I don't know. I'm not even entirely sure. It was like really dumb internet drama. They did something together and they didn't get along. I think Ken thought that Brianna was a bitch, and then Ken made a lot of content, like calling her a bitch. And so it was just... I could see how it happens with two powerful women in the industry.

And then what was crazy is Ken has a podcast, and Ken is another influencer who's on the Tart trip, and she has a podcast, and on the podcast, she talks about how Tart invited her to go on this trip, and they wanted to get on a call to let her know that Brianna was going to be on the trip.

She released that episode while they were on the trip.

She clipped that moment and put it on Instagram while they're on the same island.

These bitches are a different breed. They don't give a fuck.

I like that for them.

Yeah, and they thrive, and they actually are rewarded by this type of... People love it. It keeps things interesting. And the fact that they ended... I mean, the trip is over now, and on the last night, they made up, so they probably spent the entire trip avoiding one another.

I know, but it's just so crazy because probably the original sin is nothing that crazy, and then everything that comes afterwards makes it so much bigger. It wasn't. And if the two girls just sit down, they probably have so much in common and can move forward with their lives. It's just annoying. I feel like everybody's always coming for Brianna. How about we spread it out?

Yeah, no, she's definitely taking on a lot right now from the post-Zack. It was really positive. And then, of course, anything the pendulum swings back. The post-Zack, the Grace, the Barstool, the Ken. It's a lot. I feel like, I don't know what she's dealing with on an emotional level, but she's probably breaking down every once a week, maybe. It's a lot.

It's a lot.

People are like, She deserves it. She needs me to Grace. Nobody deserves Where is that? And you actually don't know what happened.

Right.

Now, what's being said on the interwebs, and it was spawned by Brianna bringing a guy with her, but a lot of... They brought a huge, really wide range of influencers, some who are married with kids, some who are singles, So, Remy was there, she brought her sister. People brought all different. And some people brought their man's husband's. Brianna obviously brought this guy. She's newly dating, but everybody... Some people brought partners, significant others. Plus one. Yeah, right. You get one room and a plus one. So whoever you're comfortable sleeping in a bed with, whether that's your sister or your husband. I've seen a lot of people on social media making TikToks and using that sound like, why would a man be there? Being like, why would anybody bring their husband or boyfriend? It's like such hate or jealous energy because if I was invited on Tart, let's say they literally invited me on this trip. Who else would I have brought besides Ben? Ben's so fun. I'm sorry, I like my husband and we have fun together and I would want to enjoy this special moment with him. Anyone who's brought a significant other who's a man is getting clowned on on TikTok right now, which I I really don't agree with at all.

Maybe that's unbiased because I would have been the girl who brought her husband.

Yeah, that's a random take. I feel like people are really reaching for things that they can come at these girls for. It's a work trip. No, but you're also going to a private island. There's something romantic about that. I would like to do that with my husband.

Yeah, and by the way, some people have fun with their husbands. It's not a big deal to party with your husband. Because that's what the chart trip is. It's every day. It's drinking games. They're black out all day. They've Tart after dark. They're up till 6:00 in the morning. It's fun. I wanted to have fun like that. I'm sure Margaret would be mad that I didn't bring her, but I would have brought Beth.

Yeah, that's so weird. People just, they can't think of what to be mad about. I know.

They can't think of what to be mad about. At the end, they're all jealous. All these influencers making videos about Tart. If I was invited, of course, I would have been.

Are the people who are saying-But wait, you weren't invited. Are the people who are saying they're married?

No, of course not. But some of them are. Actually, I don't know who these people are, but I'm sure some of them have boyfriends and stuff.

But it's different also to be married. And so to clown on someone, to be in a position that you have no idea what that feels like.

No, but so many people are making TikToks. So many influencers are making TikToks about the Tart trip, whether it's tone deaf or whatever. They were like, well, if I was in that position and I was invited, I would have done X, Y, and Z. But it's like, but you weren't invited.

I've actually seen a couple of those videos, and it's like, Well, I don't- By the way, I just did that.

I was like, if I was invited, I would have brought Beth.

You weren't invited? No, but it's like, I don't use Tart, but I would have loved to be on I'm like, But you don't use Tart. Why would you be on this trip?

I do want to talk about that, though, because while we're all talking about Tarte, every other word, Tart, Tart, Tart. It's amazing. They spent $2 million, and that's $2 million worth of marketing. We're talking about Tarte. But the products really have not been front and center. When you go on a brand trip, you're not paid, right? So you don't have to make content, but they make it so pargy, and they give you ring lights in your rooms, and all this different makeup to make content with. Are you okay?

There's a little fly.

Because I'm making a point, you're not listening.

I'm listening. Did you get it? Yeah. No, I didn't get it, but carry on.

Whatever. This has been a theme with all the Tart trips, because while you don't get paid to go on an influencer trip, they make it so content friendly that you end up making so much content with the brand, with the products. And they leave a full face of Nars Beauty in your room that you're getting ready, and you end up using all this Nars. But with the Tart thing, first of all, I've seen so few videos of people that it's actually doing their makeup, that it's not even a makeup-focused thing. And what's not being said here is none of these girls use Tarte. Tarte is low-brow makeup.

It is?

Yeah. Nobody really uses Tarte. We're using Charlotte Tilbury. We're using Patrick Ta. This new rare beauty.

This is Tarte.

By the way, I like Tarte, too. I'm just saying in terms of what's hot in the beauty community on social media right now, Tarte is just... It's very... What's the word I'm looking for? I don't know. It reminds me of ColorWOW a little bit.

That is so interesting. I see it as akin to Urban Decay, Sephora brand.

Yeah, sure. Urban Dekay. Those brands right now, just in terms of what's hot on social media, those are not the brands everybody's using in their makeup, Get Ready With Me. It's really Patrick Ta, it's Rare Beauty. It's these clean girl makeup. What's What's her name? What's her name? With the eyeshows, with the P. Pat McGrath. Thank you. What else?

Pat McGrath is not Clean Girl makeup, though.

It's super colorful. It's makeup by Mario. Yeah, but it's very glittery and nude. Got it. Makeup by Mario. There are certain brands that are very in the cool girls. Right now, with all these cool girls who have been invited, they actually don't reach for Tart. And so while I've seen such- I thought everyone uses Tart. No. While And by the way, they do. They're a huge mass American brand. They crush it. They're one of the biggest sellers on TikTok shop. They're one of the biggest sellers in Sephora. But for the cool girl, New York City LA influencer who sit and do their makeup, they're really not using a lot of Tarte products, and they're not even using them on this trip. One, because there's so little get ready with me content. They're all just at the beach drunk making videos. There's Tarte branding everywhere, which is great. But in terms of the actual product, I know they're launching a setting spray. I've seen one video about it, actually. I don't know how successful it is for moving actual product, but for It's a girl brand awareness, it's huge.

Interesting.

Yeah.

I just assume they all had a face full of Tarte, and we're just watching them dancing, sweating, their makeup not moving. And hey, that's a good ad for Tarte.

No, and this is actually, I think, one of the legitimate critiques of Tarte trips. Everybody's like, It's out of touch. My influencers... Sorry, that's just the way the world works. Get over it. But I think if I worked at Tarte, I'd be like, How do we make it a little bit more mandatory that everybody has a lipstick? When they want to use Tarte, they just use the Shape Tape Concealer. That's It's our most popular product. And it's like, that one's stuck around in the culture a little bit, even though it's still a little old school. But it's like, they have so many new products. Nobody's ever talking about it. I think that's an actual issue Tarte should address. Being like, maybe let's require one get ready with me a day For this big trip. People would do it, but they have no social obligations. But everybody posts a thousand things.

Or it's just like, you can only wear... We're going through your suitcases, you can't bring other makeup. You're only wearing Tarte makeup.

No, you can bring it, but don't put it in your videos. Don't bring it. They a little bit more structure around getting their products out there.

It's so funny because we're saying they should be crazier. They should clamp down more.

You're spending $2 million, and it's great because the girls go, they're like, everything's paid for. There's no obligations. Of course, we are going to post, but even if I didn't, I don't have to. There's no responsibility on my end. But there should be a tiny bit, because now the trips are so desirable. If you said to even the biggest of influencers, come Necker Island, you're going to be bringing whoever you want. You just have to post one makeup, get ready with me a day, and show two TAR products, like two. They would say, Yeah, it's just such a low lift. They're making the content anyway. It should just be enforced a little bit more. That's my opinion.

Yeah, I agree. Well, Brianna chicken fry looks beautiful.

She does. I'm really happy for her.

It's Chick. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Oh, God, no.

It's very exciting.

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Our fifth and final story is a little holiday news because we got to keep that, hold on to that holiday spirit.

What is it?

Like, 345 days till Christmas. Literally. So Prianka Chopra is teaming up with nick Jonas, Joe and Kevin Jonas for a holiday movie. So the Joe Bros.

Oh, what is it? Like, Camp Rock 4?

The Joe Bros were spotted filming.

By the way, Prianka is so bitchy.

She's so bitchy. Oh, my gosh. She was spotted filming a holiday movie in Toronto this month, nick, Joe, and Kevin. She was spotted as well there. And also, Frankie, and also another actress. This is a big budget. The bonus. Jonas Brothers holiday movie. They're wasting no time.

I I feel like Priyanka hasn't acted in a minute. Yeah.

I feel like she doesn't do a lot of acting.

But the hot take, what has Priyanka been in? Quanticke. Yeah, well, that's what... She was a really popular Bollywood actress, and then her American debut was Quantico and made her the biggest star. Since then, dead ass, what has she been in?

There was one other thing that was mentioned here.

She was just in that movie. Where Céline Dion wrote an original song for her. What was that movie called? Marry Me? Oh, yeah. Was it Jailo? Was Priyanka in that?

She might have... C'était Was another one that she is in. I don't know what that is.

Love Again. Yeah, that's the one. Love Again. That's the one. Okay. We need to look at her IMDb because I feel like Priyanka Choppa, actress, period. But Priyanka Choppa, actress, question mark.

She was in Love Again.

I feel like she's a celebrity. She's famous for being now... She has 92 million followers. That's her global reach because she really is such a big global star.

Yeah, because she's been in a lot of Movies.

Citadel. Yeah, Love Again. That's the one that Céline Dion wrote an original song for. Oh, right.

What's the premise of that? It was something really crazy, right?

Yeah, it was like a rom-com. There's Céline. So coping with the loss of her fiancé, Mira Ray sends a series of romantic text to his old cell phone number, not realizing it was reassigned to a journalist named Rob Burns. Rob becomes captivated by the honesty of her words in the beautifully constructed text. So he's assigned to write a profile on superstar Céline Dion. He enlists her to figure out how to meet Mira in person. It's Céline Dion and this heartthrob working to meet this catfish girl via text. It's a crazy movie.

That's so crazy. Also, I do think nick Jonas has a cameo.

Those two work together. They support one another. Priyanka is like, Oh, we're doing another music video? Okay. When nick needs to show up in a film, he shows up in a film, and I guess this time he's bringing his brother. I actually really appreciate that. Celebrities, Joe and Sophie used to do it all the time, too. Because I actually just watched, weirdly, the What A Man Got to Do music video for the first time in so long. All the Jay sisters were in it, and each couple was reenacting iconic couples through movie history. So Joe and Sophie were- Greece. Cha Cha Di Gagurio and John Travolta in Greece, and they do the prom dance. They did Risky Business. I forget. It was actually really cute. I missed that time, although now we know how toxic it was. I really miss it. But Priyanka and nick really show up for one another in a compelling way, and I think it's really sweet.

They do. And so I think this is nice, and I think it's great for the Jonas fans, the fans of holiday movies. I endorse this idea.

I happen to think that What A Man Got to Do, sorry to keep harping on that music video. I think it's one of their best songs ever, and I think it's one of the best songs of the last 10 years. What A Man Got A Do. That's strong words. What A Man Got A Do, because it's They don't make music that sounds like that anymore.

Totally locked up by you. It's like Bruno Mars vibe.

Yes, very... What is that? It's like the jive. What is that? You could do the mashed potato to it. What's that genre called? That song could have been on the hairspray sound. That's why I I don't think it's the genre as much as the time.

It's a rock. Yes, '60s. Like Elvis.

No, no. It's like '60s.

Elvis is like '60s.

No. What is the genre music of the Hairspray soundtrack that they're all doing the match potato to?

I don't know what it was called then, but that was also pop music for them.

It was more about the time. It was 60s. Yeah.

And a bit of rock.

People need to make more music like that. People need to make more music like that. And then they also perform like that. When Bruno Mars performs, and they're all wearing matching colorful suits, and they've got a live band, they're all doing the jive.

That's my vibe. Yeah. No, it's music for everyone. That's what Bruno Mars has said, that that's what his goal was in life. I think he saw some performers growing up, and it was music that everyone can like, and He was like, I want to make music like that. And congrats, Bruno, you did it.

Things you did. Things you did, that. Because a lot of older people love Bruno Mars.

There's nobody who could say in earnest that Bruno Mars makes bad music.

Okay, Jackie, as Add to your list of goals. Let's go to Bruno Mars concert. Let's fly to one. That's a good goal. Put it on your list. I mean, maybe not this year, it's going to be hard for me, but still, in the next two years.

It's a different goal. It's wishes, but yeah.

Yeah, it's giving me make a wish.

But dream Dreams and wishes, aspirations. Oh, my gosh. Also, Rascal Flatts are going on tour soon. That kicks off.

Did we miss Uncasville?

No. I believe that there's one... There's There's two in Florida, not terribly far, and I think they're in April.

They made it hard for us, for sure.

They made it hard for us. But I'll fucking be there somehow, someway.

Let's talk about the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, a new episode air last night, and what has been a decent season, not bad, not good, a little sleepy. I thought last night was actually a very good episode without a big... I think Bravo feels like they need a big blow up and somebody pulling someone's hair for things be explosive. And I feel like last night was a good example of something like a really good episode. Nothing crazy happened, but it was really crazy how Kyle finally read that text message, and it was exactly... And she's talking to us being like, Look, it's innocent. And what you're reading is like, No, that's exactly what you said it wasn't.

Yeah, No, it was much more subtle.

You know, you can tell me things, and I'll never tell anybody I never have.

And it looks like next week is a blow up, and I'm sure she blows up at that spot, and then it's a to be continued. So we'll get the rest of the fight in two weeks. In two weeks. But yeah, there were a couple of things happening. One, I I also thought it was interesting. Everyone wants Bowes on their side. It's so crazy. I feel like people have not courted a new girl. Usually, the new person has to prove themselves and try and get in and say, Hey, what about me? When there's a lot of drama going on, they get left behind because you're not a part of this. But I guess because she has been such a friend to Doreen, and people do just sometimes just really click and hit it off and connect quicker than other people. That is something that happens, and that's very normal.

Everybody's showing to Bo's house after she got surgery when they've known these girls for three weeks. It really is, courting is the perfect word. It's really crazy. I don't remember a time in which a new girl, A, has not had to work hard at all, and B, everyone's dying to get her on their side. I think that when Kyle came over, it was the most awkward, disingenuous. This woman just had surgery, and you're going on about Mo and Dorit rumor last year. No, not even that.

She comes over and she says, I feel like Bo's doesn't have a good understanding of me based on things that Dorit has said to Bo's, but also in front of the rest of the group. She was like, I feel like she just doesn't understand who I am as a person. So you're going to choose the day that she had surgery to go to her house and show her who you are? She don't give a fuck.

By the way, the editors really are not feeling Kyle this season because at that scene, when she's visiting Boze at the edge of her bed, she's like, Well, me and Doreet, we didn't really... Doreet never opened up to me about what was going on in her life. Meanwhile, they cut to a scene last year with her being like, Honestly, I feel like my marriage might not make it. Then a year later, her marriage doesn't make it.

That's what I keep saying. Everyone is like, Doreet acted like everything was so perfect. She never She shared. She literally was ringing the bell all last season. Even that scene where PK does the pretty woman thing for her was not a happy romantic scene. That was not a good moment. She has shared the entire time, even this season, every therapy session. Nobody listens to her. Can you say she talks too much? Maybe listen to what she's saying so that you can call back to it and remember things that she said.

I love that when Garcelle came over to also blow smoke up Boaz's ass, she was going on about why she doesn't like to read, and she was like, Well, she just doesn't And it's like, that's why you don't like someone. It's not like, oh, well, she killed my friend. And Boze was like, okay. And nobody listens.

Yeah, so she talks a lot. That's not a thing. It's not a crime.

No, it's not. And I really am loving It's rare to see somebody who's so untethered to anyone. And Bo's really just comes in and goes with her gut. And I think a lot of times, a new girl, even if she's not being courted, but if she is, goes to where they think the audience wants them to go. It's always easier to go with the bigger group. And it's just like, Doreet and Erica over To see somebody like...

And Erica is on both sides. Erica is really on the fence.

To see somebody so in control and seriously making their own decisions just based on judgment, based on gut, based on what they think is so refreshing and so rare.

Also, when Kyle was like, she didn't share this stuff with me, and Bo snipped it out in one second. It was the first thing she told me when she met me, and they throw back to...

My husband's an alcoholic.

They literally shake hands. She's like, I'm going through a separation. My husband's an alcoholic. It's been really hard. And so Bo But this is your friend of 10 years, and she's ever told you anything. Bo's just does not believe Kyle, that Doreet didn't tell her those things, and she was right for that.

No, it's so crazy to see somebody with such a gut instinct following that. Their gut is right, but also just not being influenced at all by TV, or Kyle's the O. G. Who would have wanted to be on team Kyle? She survived X many seasons.

Oh, speaking of. No, and also, think of all of the new people who have come on the show, who have either stayed or left, that Kyle really doesn't go out of her way to get to know because she's a mainstay She doesn't need the Anslier character. It's just so crazy to see her really going out of her way to butter up Boes, and it's not working, and she's never even done that before.

Yeah. No, but she's really desperate. That's why she's hanging on to Garcel and Sutton And the scene when they were playing tennis, where they finally addressed the issues in Kyle's marriage, because I guess on its surface, Kyle really hasn't told us what went wrong in her marriage. She alluded to something, a breach of trust in the She didn't get... She just says these things and thinks that it's sufficient, but it's actually not.

She alluded to it at the reunion, which I watched. That was the only time, I guess, that she's mentioned it. I completely forgot about that until they played the clip, because this season, as she tells the story of her marriage, she ever, ever, ever mentions it. At the reunion, her feet were held to the fire, and she had to say trust was broken. That's all she said. But no, it's never come up to the point that I genuinely forgot that, and I've been here for all of it.

The fact that her safe place in this group is Sutton and Garcelle, and the three of them sat down and Sutton brought up the fact that, what do you mean? There wasn't fidelity. You told us. Remember that thing you said once, two years ago? And then Garcelle in her interview is like, I mean, we've all heard the rumors for years about Mo and Kyle.

So at least Sutton was able to lean on that thing that she said at the reunion to back her up is like, oh, you said it. But I think there is so much more that is both known to the group and then also whispers. And then whisper in the community. But I think that they know stuff through probably true sources, but also through Kyle. Maybe off camera, Kyle has told them stuff. But But the fact that they brought up, it was such a weird moment.

Okay, I also, while I thought it was funny, Ha Ha, Chucky Cheese, I also thought like, Sutton trying to do something nice for Erica when she was so awful. I'm like, okay. It was just like, I know Erica. She's accepting the graciousness, but also never forgetting who was there for her and who wasn't and who was awful to her. And Sutton really was. I thought that whole thing was so disingenuous and so weird.

Yeah.

Especially because it was spear headed by Sutton.

There's ways to do a cute girls night out. Chucky Cheese just didn't do it for me. I can't get over.

Did you think that was sponsored?

No, but they did make Chucky cheese look pretty good, considering Chucky cheese has been through it. Do you remember that controversy with the pizzas? No. If you got a pizza at Chucky cheese, and I can't get this out of my head. The pieces don't line up perfectly in the pizza because pretty much they're like, when someone doesn't finish their pizza, they take the old size. No fucking way. But you Google it. You'll see these mismatched pizzas. So when they got their pizza, I'm like, are they eating someone's-Chucky cheese pizza controversy. You'll see, they're all different shapes.

Oh my God, Jackie, do you know who-Shane Dawson.

I know. I know the Shane Dawson.

In 2019, YouTuber Shane Dawson posted a video that claimed that Chuckie Cheese's recycled pizza slices. The video went viral and led to a statement from Chuckie Cheese denying the claims. So Shane Dawson's video presented photos of mismatched slices on half and half pies, suggesting they were randomly placed and not a part of the same original pizza. He also claimed that a high school friend who worked at the restaurant confirmed these suspicions. Chuckie Cheese denied the claim saying that their pizzas are made to order and that the dough is prepared fresh in the restaurant. And Chuckie Cheese explained that the misshapen slices were simply a byproduct of their freshness.

I just want you to know. I know that Shane Dawson isn't a trusted journalistic source. I can't help it that ever since that came out, I can't not think about it when I think about Chuckie Cheese. I'm like, That is so gross.

That's so gross. Although the pepperoni pie that they showed last night was definitely cooked uniform.

I was I'm going to see if the pepperoni is lined up with one another. And I'm sure they knew that their pepperoni would be on TV. This would be a great moment to combat.

So they made an original pie.

They definitely put their whole Chucko scene into that.

Yeah, that was a good thought.

But this dent remains for me.

One thousand %? I never even heard of that. That's so crazy. So if two different people ordered a pie and they didn't finish it, there was three slices left here. They take their extra slices and they just put them on a new pie.

And it's like, they probably do that.

So also to say, I saw people on Twitter being like, oh, it's so funny, like girlhood. How's why?

That is not girlhood.

And it was weird. And honestly, for as much as Garcel has been pissing me off, she has so many redeeming moments. So, Kyle, are you Like, thank you, actually. It took someone three years to ask that question. So I can't quit Garcel because she really does... It's both her and Sutton. They have redeeming moments when they say the obvious truths, but they get empowered by that. And then I think they attack people a little superfluously. And honestly, at the end of the Viper Room scene, when Garcelle was like, But, Dorit, how are you doing? And I love that Dorit was like, Are you fucking kidding?

Why are you asking me that? I love that she said that, and she explained it perfectly in her interview when she's like, She sees the state that I'm in right now. If she even... One, she doesn't genuinely care how I'm doing because she doesn't like me. But even if she did, to ask me that right now when I'm at level 100, why?

Yeah, and I'm sorry. Dorit is... And I've never seen somebody who's... Every season, is going through something, right? And the women either attack or lift them up. I've never seen somebody who's actively going through something so deeply and also slaying. Every fight, every argument, she's not getting beaten down. She will not go down with this shit.

Yeah, she's...

I won't put my hands up.

And just back to Chuck E. Cheese. I feel like they could have gone to a bowling alley or an arcade. But something about Chuck E. Cheese, it's so for kids.

There are adults...

Chuck E, that's why it felt sponsored. There are adult entertainment. David Busters. Facilities. Yeah, so fun. It was for kids. The crowns didn't fit them. What are you doing there?

No, I'm in agreement. And like, Kyle got up on the skeet ball and threw the ball in the glass. Ha ha.

Yeah.

Also, I love that they immediately addressed in real-time, because usually, I feel like it would happen after on social media, and then brought to the reunion, the vein. Yeah. I like that Kyle knew exactly what was being said. She was like, Yeah, the last time my vein popped like that was, You're such a fucking liar, Camille. The flashback to that actually brought me so much joy. The vein was really popping.

Yeah.

It's not a good season for Kyle. One, I think in herself, she doesn't really... I think she feels lost because she's going through a lot. But two, she's acting poorly within the group. She is being a bad friend. And three, the editors are not letting her get away with one singular lie.

No, they're really not. So then it ends with this text.

I can't wait for the fucking reunion when they go back and watch Dorit never said in Oceanside, wherever they were, that her and Teddy... I forget what it was she was accused of saying, but even Erica was like, Dorit, you did say that.

She didn't. No, no, no. But so then they go to the text message, which now Kyle is saying that Dorit is bringing up this text with PK, just to make Kyle look bad when she doesn't actually care. And I really tried to place myself in this situation of like- By the way, Dorit did not bring it up. What?

She brought up at the Viper Room. Garcell did. No, but I'm saying, in terms of the group? Yeah. Marcel made it a thing. She says it her and PK, Texas.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then when it got you to read, she thought it was just the memes. And it's like, even if you're just sending memes. And so you really have to put yourself in the shoes of like, this is a couple that you're friends with as a couple. We're closing there, The boys are close and the girls are close and we're all friends. But it's not like, I wouldn't say it's like Dana and her husband being friends. You know what I mean? So really like a couple, and really, no matter how many ways I think about it, if the woman of the other couple were texting the husband being like, I'm here for you. I will never I would never tell anyone.

By the way, and both couples are getting divorced.

It is so, at best, unnecessary, at worst, inappropriate. Then that she would have that picture up on her phone of Doreet giving them the hug. I think that was one of the lowest moments of Dorit's life. That was right after the robbery, right? A hundred %. She's like, hugging her friend.

There was someone, literally just someone she knows.

She's like, no makeup, just so distraught. Vulnerable. Vulnerable. I think if you know her as a friend, you know that nothing about that moment was a pass at your husband.

No. And by the way, it couldn't have been because Dorit's husband was right there in the hug. Right. And then we do- And I could see Dorit getting confused and thinking that Mo was back was PK's back.

And I do think I said this last week, but I do need to fast forward to the happy future between Mo and Doreet. Mo and Doreet. I agree. And maybe PK and Kyle should be together. Maybe that's where this is... Maybe it's just a wife swap. I'm down. Even though I don't see them.

Maricio could really provide financially the life that Dorit needs.

I just... Crazier things have happened. Something to think about. I feel like at this point, maybe even if they had feelings for one another that they never would have acted on, never. I feel like at this point, the world and even their spouses are pushing them towards each other.

Yes. Although because Dorit is not a bad friend, she doesn't talk to Maricio. So they're actually not getting closer because they don't text, they don't talk, they don't communicate because it's inappropriate. I could see sooner Kyle and PK getting together because they text all the time. And you know, I would never tell. I never have. What have you never told? The text was so embarrassing.

She thought it was just a standard.

You would have had to waterboard that information out of me. And here she is showing- That's what's so crazy.

She thought that this was just a standard text of support that you send to someone. If you were sending a text to someone to be there for them, even though you're on your wife's side, it'd be like, thinking of you, like want the best for your family, always here for you. Even always here for you is a platitude, fine. You can tell me anything I would never tell anyone, just like, I never have. What have you never have?

Not to be an even bigger conspiracy theorist, but did you find it interesting when she read that text for the first time to Bowes? It was a screenshot of this conversation. If you had nothing to hide, why wouldn't you just go to the conversation and scroll? Is it because there's so much beneath that?

No, and it was like her text was the last one. So what was his response?

It was cropped to a square. What was his response?

And what was above it?

Yeah. It's something to think about. Yeah.

She thought she ate with that. And also being like, I would never show my phone. And I understand that. I'm an adult. I don't have to prove myself. And she's like, But I'll show you this one time.

First of all. I'm going to make an exception just to prove how right I am. Meanwhile, you're literally wrong.

And to prove how wrong it is that you asked me to do this. I'm going to do it.

I'm going to indulge your behavior.

Do you think producers would ever let her get away with not showing?

Yes.

But then she would have to show at the reunion. I feel like as part of this show, she had to show.

I think maybe if Dorit and PK ever were to reconcile or anything, the first thing Dorit would do while PK's sleeping is go through as fine. Yeah.

Also, even though it's not just memes, what memes would the two of them be sending back and forth to each other that they have such... I send memes to people. How many inside jokes do you have? Things where it's like, we really have common ground on something, same funny, harsh opinion of something. What the two of you have in common that you can only share with each that Mo and Doreet wouldn't appreciate because they're so not aligned.

Well, that's the funny thing is the season she's really maintaining her and Doreet's friendship was really never that deep, and they actually never spent time together. But you have so many inside jokes and things to text her husband about? Wouldn't that imply... If you have any relationship with someone's husband, that would imply that that girl is your friend. Yeah. So it just negates her whole argument from the beginning of the season and the Amazon Live thing.

Well, yeah, it all goes back to But that was just like such an obvious lie. That was crazy.

Rude. Well, The Real House is Beverly Hills. Recap that you needed is that, and that is our show.

That is our show.

Don't You get to put your musical producer hat on.

I just want to say, I saw a breaking news notification having to do with TikTok. Oh, TikTok reveals when the app will shut down in the US. Yeah, I think it's Sunday. The app is shutting down on Sunday.

Oh, my God. But what about our challenge? You guys get to work. #toastthemesong.

Put the challenge on reels if you really want us to see it.

I would recommend putting it on either platform, but if you put it on one and tag us and use the hashtag #toastthemesong, that will suffice, don't worry. But you only have until Sunday if you have a TikTok.

If you're putting it on TikTok, definitely also put it on reels because you just never know. And if you want me to see it.

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