Transcript of Long Suffering Propriety: Friday, January 17th, 2025

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy fucking Friday. My God, thank you, Jesus and all the lords of all people for bringing us to this moment.

It's very exciting for a number of reasons. Second full week of the New Year in the books. And I actually, I read a statistic that most New Year's resolutions are broken on the second Friday of January. Don't you feel that way, that that resolution energy has just gone out the window? You've made it till today.

I don't relate to that because my relationship with resolutions is like, I don't do them. And on the one or two years I have actually done them, it was such an important resolution, the vaping, or when I decided to change my whole life philosophy, saying yes to life. Those are the two resolutions I've ever even tried. I've never been a person on January first who goes to the gym. So I don't participate in resolution culture.

To be honest, I'm very much participate in resolution culture, and I was feeling the lag this week, and I was feeling really unmotivated. If I hadn't read that statistic, I could see myself giving up because now it's the weekend.

Because by the way, what's worse than being another statistic?

It's the weekend, so I'm not up on my goals on the weekend. I could see myself giving up by Monday. But now that I read the statistic, I do not want to be just a statistic. I'm going to carry on. I have my water jug. We are drinking less and less before the show every day, which is good because I can't keep running to pee. So I just have to up my water intake in the afternoon.

It is so important that I, at the top of this show, issue two enormous corrections from yesterday's episode. One of them is yours. Okay. Lane Meester was not in Parenthood.

Okay. In my defense, Minka Kelly is in Parenthood. And in my defense, have the two of them ever been seen in the same way together?

Same trail, different park.

Like, literally-They're the same person they look like. They have similar career traject. Of course, I correct. I stand corrected, but my heart was in the right place.

And mine was also in the right place. And I see how I made this error. But when I was getting my actual diatribe, that's so me, by the way. Whenever I have to issue a correction, it's never like an off-hand remark. It's something I spoke about for 15 minutes. Yeah, you were very passionate about. The story about the Severance TV show that we did yesterday about their big marketing campaign. I was talking about my experience with the show. Spoiler alert, I've actually never seen Severance. What I thought was Severance There's actually a show called Industry.

I could see how you could be good about that.

Look up the posters. They're the same fucking show. They both take place in the workplace. I apologize. I've actually never seen Severance. Now, I want to. It sounds like something I might be interested in. I had watched Industry on HBO Max. I apologize. That whole thing, statement, I made everybody just undo Control Z. I heard Severance is a great show.

Yeah, so maybe we'll give Severance a shot. Maybe. Show called Severance.

Show called Severance.

Streaming on Apple TV.

I have a very complicated relationship with Apple TV subscription. I refuse. I let a lot of my subscriptions stay dormant. I'm never going to cancel Netflix, Hulu, Max. Even if I'm not watching them so frequently, that's baked into my monthly expenses. But there are certain ones, if I'm not using it, like with Ted Lasso, I would sign up for Apple TV. The second I was done with Ted Lasso, we're canceling Apple TV. Same goes for Peacock. I'm not attached to Peacock. I'll sign up to watch something, and then I will cancel. Same with Paramount+. Some of them haven't really adapted to my monthly expenses.

Most of them, I don't really go through the subscriptions and change them. What I have is what I have. But I feel you about Apple TV. They don't have enough content to justify paying a separate price when I already have... You're telling me my Apple TV doesn't come with Apple TV plus?

Yeah, that part's really disgusting.

So crazy. So it's on principle that I pay for it. I agree. Because that makes It makes no sense. I bought your device when I could have bought a Fire Stick or a Roku or something, and you're going to make me pay to watch one show that you have? You have one show.

To be clear, a lot of the networks that have streaming platforms also have products like Fire Stick. Fire Stick doesn't come with Prime, but if you ordered it on Prime, you probably have Prime.

The thing about Prime, though, is we don't know what we're paying for. I have Prime, I assume. How much is it? I don't know.

I signed up.

I get to watch Prime TV, Molly May. I know I have that. I don't see a bill for Prime.

I signed up for Amazon Prime when I was in high school.

I don't think I ever signed up for Prime.

No, Jackie, you had to have.

No, Prime signed me up.

Because it used to be like, when we were all just using Amazon to order stuff in high school, it used to be that you could get it or you could get it in two days with Amazon Prime. And if you were ordering enough, it really justified it wasn't a crazy price. And I've never...

What's the price?

I don't want to know because it's such... To me, there are 30,000 things I would cancel before I would ever cancel my Amazon Prime. I rely on it to live.

I agree. And also, I'm a prime member, apparently. Does that cover my video, my prime video?

Actually, no. I know that Prime Video has recently done its thing because I have Prime Video, I guess. But now the Prime Video that I have has ads. So they've obviously up to... There's a tier. And I actually don't use Prime Video that much, so I'm not going to pay for it.

But when I was watching- Stop with the tears. Stop making me make hard choices.

Yeah, and there are certain streaming services that have tiers. Even the highest tier still has ads. Like, They're wild.

That's crazy. They're wild enough.

That's crazy.

Yeah, it's a mess.

It's a mess. And I actually, not a resolution, but at the beginning of the year, because I pay my taxes at the end of the year. So in December of last year, I paid my taxes. And of course, I always want to start out after that, being a little bit more fiscally responsible. So one of my goals was to get all my subscriptions in order. I just know, sometimes I see a charge for a dollar for a VPN I used once, and that was a year ago. So that's $12. So I really want to get my subscriptions in order. That's a goal of mine. Not a resolution, but a goal.

There's really good apps for that.

Yes, actually, one of them is a sponsor today. Oh, my goodness. It's actually a very good sponsor. So spoiler alert, stay tuned for the code.

Should we do that ad right now?

Honestly, it's so It's organic. It's so organic.

It's so organic, and now I need to go get it.

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Oh my God, I've been hearing all about that book. It's on my list.

We're reading it for the Redheads. I'm so surprised to see- Join us.

I'm very excited. I'm so surprised to see to see to see something so trendy. It's everywhere.

So I've seen it a couple of different places. I was really leaning on AI to help me pick a book because I was giving them what we like, or This was one of the choices I almost picked, but it felt really trendy, like a rom-com. I'm like, I'm not in that mood. They gave me this thriller that I wound up picking that's only available in the UK. If Molly Mae wants to join the Redheads, she could have. Then I went back to the drawing board, and this book kept coming up. It was a read with Jenna Pick, and she always picks really good books. A lot of our pics have converged in the past, and I'm always really happy with those books. I think it's a safe choice, and at this point, I want something that's massly available that people could get on Kindle at their library.

I hate to tell you how to do your job, but I do like when the Redheads choose something on trend. Now, trendy books are always bad. Let's be real. Anytime you hear about it all over Goodread, it's like it's a piece of shit, and it's just never good. Having said that, this is a business, the Redheads, and it's good for you guys to be on trend.

The thing is, I go through waves of that feeling where it's like, let's read the book that everyone's talking about. But then it sometimes doesn't live up to the hype. We don't have the best conversations. A lot of people have already read it and discussed it, and it's We're just circling the drain. Then we're like, let's read a book that everybody's reading for the first time. But I also don't want to pick something from 10 years ago because maybe people did read it 10 years ago, and then they don't want to listen to the episode. Now, it's really a dance. And then the craziest part is that we haven't read the book, so we don't know if it is a good book. If I was doing recommendations about books I already read, easy as pie.

Yeah, that's so true. Well, I wish you the best. I really do.

It was inevitable that something like this would happen. We will be reading The Wedding People, and I'm very excited.

I'm excited, too. I meant to tell you, something I've been keeping up with is the Today Show guest co-hosts. And some people have come and gone, and I feel like there was no waves made. Let me tell you, all over social media, Hiki Palmer was yesterday, and she just crushed it. There was so many funny moments, sweet moments, earnest moments. She has a new movie coming out that, seriously, I've only seen promoted on TikTok. I don't know why this movie is getting no... I don't know where the marketing budget. It's starring her and Siza, and Maud Apetau is in it. It's this trio, Girls Night type. It looks so funny. I'm like, I don't know where I can see this movie. For some reason, the rollout is not giving me faith that it's going to be mass-distributed. And of course, I don't know what it's called. But so she's doing a lot of press, and people fucking loved her. I think if she wants the job, there has been such I get a positive feedback from Kiki and Jenna that I actually think the job is hers to turn down.

I think she would be fantastic. I wonder if she wants that job because it does mean you have to-Give up other things. Hang up some of your other hats. She's someone who always has multiple projects because she is a multifaceted entertainer. So just to be sat there five days a week, very routine, I don't know if it's your dream job.

That's why the job tends to go to women who are a little bit older in the industry because they've done that. They've spent their 20s and 30s doing the most and trying every opportunity. Then it's nice to have some stability and just go to work every morning at the same place. It's not for everyone. I agree. You can't have a thriving acting, comedy. She's really also an influencer, a podcaster. You can do all of that while also being a daytime daily host. But I'm happy to see her getting the feedback and the respect that she deserves.

I'm just not surprised.

Things that don't surprise me? You know what? But has confounded me. Me and Ben had this 30-minute conversation last night that we actually ended up in a fight, because I thought he was giving such bad answers. I have been singing Guilty as Sin by Taylor Swift. It's been stuck in my head, and I keep getting stuck on this lyrics that I actually... It could be in Chinese. I do not understand it, okay? You can probably help me. I said to Ben, I'm like, What do you think this means? It had been bothering me all day, and he gave such a wrong answer. I'm like, Okay, never mind. Why am I talking?

Do you think he would give a right answer?

Sometimes he's very profound, and I'm like, Okay, you know what? Never mind. I asked the wrong person. I should have asked Jackie. Tell me what you think this lyrics means. If long suffering propriety is what they want from me, they don't know how you've haunted me so stunningly. What the fuck does that mean? First of all, I had to Google what propriety means.

I don't know what propriety means, but I'm going to use context, please.

What it means is forcing someone to conform. Like acting proper, propriety.

Okay, if long suffering propriety is what they want from me.

Say the next step. They don't know how you've haunted me so stunningly.

Well, before you gave the definition of propriety, I was going off of suffering, and it's like, they want me to suffer for a long time. I think propriety is negative.

They don't know. Like saying...

Well, yeah, okay. They've wanted me to suffer propriety for a long time, and they don't know that you've haunted me so stunningly. Haunting is a negative thing. They don't know that I've been suffering propriety.

But then the next lyrics, I choose you and me religiously. He's making you suffer. Why do you choose him?

I mean, that's a classic question, literally. I don't really ask any girl in a relationship or that's pining after a person that doesn't want her. And yeah, the choosing you and me religiously is what's making her suffer because it's long suffering propriety. And he's haunting her because he don't want her. Who's it about?

Metta Really?

Yeah, this makes sense.

Does it? Because Ben was getting stuck on the word stunningly, saying that it was about beauty. I'm like, no. Oh, goodness. I'm like, no, you're wrong. You are wrong.

Yeah. No, it's just an adjective. I'm like, But the stunning...

I said, Ben, the stunning doesn't refer to a person, it refers to the haunting. It's a possessive adjective. And he was like, No. And then we just started fighting.

Well, you shouldn't have even asked him, not because he couldn't be helpful in something, but with tales The lure, you have to know the lure a little bit, and the lure of the lure.

Sometimes, and I feel like this happened a lot in TTPD, she lyrisized a little too close to the sun. I feel like the older she gets, the less of her lyrics, I actually understand. She's a little too smart. I find myself having to Google words.

Yeah. I also would need the context of the rest of the...

The song.

Song.

Yeah.

But it does sound like people want her to suffer, and little do you know, I've been suffering by pining over this person who has haunted me, who I would choose every day, religiously, who wouldn't choose me. And that is suffering. I'm so glad I asked you.

I feel like I get it.

But I also might really be analyzing them too much on the surface. I have a tendency to do that. Surface lyrics, of course. I'm not very... Deep? What's the word? No, I am deep, but I just sometimes... I'm too on the surface in my analyzation. I don't know how to describe it. So maybe there's something So maybe there's more that I'm missing.

Update on our theme song competition. It is still in full swing. And as of this morning, the Supreme Court has decided to uphold the TikTok band. So Sunday is still the deadline for the theme song competition. Jackie and I are looking all across the nation for a new theme song. Well, not a new. Our first theme song for this podcast right here. You can submit on Instagram reels or on TikTok using the hashtag Toast Theme Song. Try and stand out, play an instrument, do what you want. And we're looking for a 30 to 60 second jingle, not too long, not too short.

Of course, the one and only social media competition we've ever run that's taking place on TikTok ends on the day that TikTok will be banned. So if we want to sit down and watch all the TikToks on Sunday and make a decision, we actually can.

We're not going to have to save and screenshot the profiles of people. I didn't even think about that.

I do think the people who have really put their whole cells into this and our real contenders are on both. But just keep that in mind. That is so crazy. We've never done anything like this. And of course, we It shows the day.

We're going to have to do Saturday night. Saturday night school. Yeah, Saturday night school. But the competition is not over. If you have not submitted yet, we really encourage you to. This has been so much fun. Also, the winner wins $5,000. That's a huge part. And a contract with Toast Studios, so that's just huge. That's worth more than the $5,000. And we're really excited. So #toastthemesong. I've been loving watching everybody's competish, some mish. And yeah, this has been one of the best weeks in my life because of it.

Yeah, it's been really fun, and I'm mostly excited to have a theme song. Because some of the ones that I've listened to have given me chills, which is also like, if you don't give me chills, it could have been the best song, but it didn't give me chills, so it's not going to win. And just to have that experience every day, I think will be really nice.

Yeah, and I'm struggling because the one that I think is best There has been another one that I was singing in my head all day yesterday, which is like the benchmark of a good theme song. So I'm feeling really toward, but I'm also still open. I can't stress enough that the competition is still open.

I think I think also that we'll pick our favorites, two or three, and then maybe we'll ask friends and family to vote. And that won't be the decision, but that might help us see what the people gravitate towards. It's a very intricate decision in voting process.

It's so complex. A lot of people don't understand how hard we work, personally, on this. It's like American idol. Everybody has... Because there are certain videos on TikTok that have gone viral. One of them is a quarter of a million views, and that's great. That doesn't equal winner.

No, it just means that we will see it for sure, even though we will see all of them. It's good to know, though. People just scroll till the end of the hashtag. People like it.

That's good, too.

That's true. That is very true. So there's a couple of buckets that go into the final vote, which is like, Claudia and I, our friends and family, like social media reception. It's a very layered and I would say-Complex equation. Yeah. Resulting in the best result, wouldn't you say?

I would hope that the equation would result in the best result. But you know, time will tell.

Okay, and what do you think about this? If we're between two options, if we had an intro song and an outro song.

That's when the podcast gets crazy.

More songs, just more songs.

I mean, I think if none of them work out, we could always do, What if he's written my-mal on my upper thy mol? That's always an option, of course.

That's guilty as sin, I just learned.

Of course, we could also do, and I'll never stop singing my pargy song. We have options, of course.

If we took the time, we could have done this ourselves.

Yeah, but who wants to do that when you could host a competition?

We're busy women. We are busy women. I'm such the Simon, though, wouldn't she say?

Oh, actually, no. I think you're so Paula. You think everything is so good. I'll send it to you and you'll be like, oh, my God, I love it. I'm like, really? You are definitely the second. You might be Randy. Who was more lenient? Randy or Paula? Paula had empathy that neither of the other two had, but Randy had a low bar for talent.

Yeah. I don't even know how... How did those three become so iconic when I can't even distinguish the personalities of Randy Randy and Paula. I think Randy was just more laid back in his critique. I think Paula had a lot of energy. Was definitely the one like the Katie Perry who was just making best friends with everyone.

Yes, and was there to serve looks and be glamorous. Paula Abdul.

Yeah. So crazy.

So crazy. That was such an interesting... Because now it's like they look for the biggest and baddest star to put in one of those chairs. But those were three unknown. Now, of course, Paula Abdul isn't unknown. But for the audience that was watching, I had no idea who Paula Abdul was. No, me neither. So it was for young people. And we knew this was an older, successful pop star. She was known for her dancing. But I had never heard a Paula Abdul song in my life. So the fact that they became so known is actually so crazy.

Yeah.

Then they tried with X Factor. They tried to make LA Reid, the Randy Jackson. He did a good job, but X Factor wasn't appreciated in its own time. X Factor US.

Yeah.

What can you do? Where were you when you first heard Carly Rosanne and Claire?

I was sad is where I was.

Exactly.

Well, I guess we should get into the stories to bid you goodbye to the week.

We have Queenie and Weanie this week. Do you have yours?

I do. I wrote them down. I actually had a hard time.

I think it was because this week felt so long. I think on Monday, I wrote down somebody that I just wanted to put into contention for my queenie. And now it just feels so irrelevant.

It just feels like last week. No, I know. Because it's been so long.

Exactly.

Yeah. Also, the good news is that next week is a short. Oh, yeah.

Thank you so much for inviting. We're embarking on a three-day weekend. You guys know we respect the hell out of federal holidays, and I would never disrespect my King Martin Luther, and that's on Monday. So MLK Day. Littéral King. Littéral king. Mlk Day, there is no toast. That's Monday, so just prepare yourself I think that's a federal holiday that's widely respected. Certain holidays have become... Everybody goes to work on Columbus Day, and it's people like, Oh, really? You have off for Arbor Day? Yeah, I do. So not all of them are as respected, but I feel like everybody's off on Monday.

And I do feel like after two long, hard, full weeks, we need a day off as a society, not just us. It was a lot coming back into the year.

And with the TikTok band, we all need time to Yes.

And as you said, Monday is just a big day for the world. Also, with the hostage deal, it's just a big day.

So we'll be off. I just wanted to say one thing, not to bring it up after you said hostage deal, so it sounds so vain, but a lot of- When we were adding to our Monday list, I realized if the deal goes as planned, the first hostages are set to be released on Monday. Okay, so I'm actually not going to say what I was going to... Now, I feel really even more so.

Okay, let me say just something else, and then you could say it. Don't forget, New Redheads' book, Is the Wedding People. It's going to be an amazing episode with fun with friends and family.

I feel like I actually haven't given my official thoughts on the TikTok band. I've been updating everybody on it, and how does turdy feel? I obviously love TikTok. I'm the TikTok correspondent for my generation.

I feel like your feelings are complicated, and you've been parsing through them.

My feelings are complicated. Let me tell you why. Am I resentful that I never reached a million followers? I'm definitely underappreciated as fucking hell on that Yes. So do they deserve to go down for that? Absolutely. 100%. But I've gotten to such a good place in my TikTok. I pop up on TikTok at least once a day. I'm in such a good place. My engagement is crushing it. I'm getting so many brand deals. I'm going to miss that. I'm going to miss the attention, but I actually know that I will be better off because of it. I have a very complicated relationship with the app. I love it so much. I rot for hours, and I know that it's bad for me. I got to enter this phase in my life where I need to be present. I know they're not doing this for me, but in its own way, it feels like it's being done for me. I'm actually looking forward to the person I become without this addiction in my life.

It's the vape. I think that's...

I loved it, but I hate it.

I agree. I do think it's coming back, though. So this will be short-lived. And on the plus side, all the money that the brands were spending on you on TikTok, that you would be missing that, those brands will spend that money elsewhere, whether it's on Instagram, on the podcast. Although, Can you explain something to me?

It's live events, trips to the Cape. Me and Ben were talking about China yesterday, obviously. What else do two people talk about? And he was asking, why... Okay, so China is stealing our data and spying on us, for sure. Why is that bad? And I was like, oh, well, I love to cite the 60 Minutes segment I once watched. I actually really colored a lot of my opinions on TikTok and how they really do use it as a weapon. They use TikTok, this amazing algorithm in China, to further the education of minors and teach kids to valuable lessons in math and stem. And then they use that same algorithm to target Americans, to keep them fat, fat, lazy, and mentally ill. And they use it like, they convince people on TikTok that you have mental illnesses that you don't have. It's actually the 60 Minutes segment, if you just Google it, it was actually really powerful. Because at first I was like, who gives a fuck? So I was telling Ben that. He's like, no, no, no, that I know. But the actual data, okay, so they have our data. Now what? What's bad?

So I think for a regular person who's not remarkable, it's not a huge deal to have your data. But then there are people, they get into your phone, they get into your WiFi network. There are people whose parents work in government. It's ways to get, amongst other threats, but it's ways to get proprietary information that maybe just the 13-year-old dancing in their room doesn't know, but their dad has, or mom, has government secrets. Or mom.

Okay, then also, then explain this to me, because everybody... And you just said, you think it's coming back for sure, even though the Supreme Court has upheld the legality of banning it. They say, No, no, no. The law... There's nothing stopping the law from stopping this ban. It's legit. They just said that this morning. So obviously, today's the last working day of Biden's presidency, so now it's up to Trump. But Trump's thing is he hates China. So why would he?

Why would we think it's coming back? I think because whatever makes it so nefarious, and there are a couple different things, I think those will get solved, whether it's a sale, whether it's parameters in place.

I think-Yeah, but the thing I said earlier in the week is true about like...

It can't be inextricable.

It can't be unlinked from the Byte Company, which is based in China. They're data centers. Even if you buy the company, in order for the company to still exist separately, it has to be linked.

I feel like maybe it doesn't. I love that. Maybe there's a workaround. I love that. Maybe there's a solve. And if anything, it'll take- I think the issues will get solved a bit. Not it's just going to like, Oh, we'll keep doing this because this has been a problem for a very long time.

Then Ben also had an interesting point. He was like, You know what? And Ben doesn't come at this with any agenda. He's just a curious person, which I like. He was like, But you know what? If anybody started an app eight years ago and was able to sell it today, it's worth $400 billion. That's the market value. The fact that they don't want to sell it, that gives them various vibes because the whole point of starting a tech company is to sell it and make money. And you've successfully built the biggest one in the shortest amount of time. And now we're like, the government is begging you to sell it, begging. And you won't? Why? Because money maybe wasn't your spying on 13-year-olds whose dad's working government or mom's.

Well, and that's just one case of how they could spy, but just like they had this-Of course. They like to see what-I mean, we-then they have full visibility.

I get it. I get it.

We are into American life.

We are so interesting. If I was living in China and I worked for intelligence, I would want to know what was going on here, too. We are the most fabulous people. We are so complex and we are, of course, not perfect. But if I could spy on any country, of course, I would want to be this one. We are sick. We're gorgeous. God bless America. I get it. I get the their obsession. I got it.

Yeah, it's a real intrigue.

Think about all the people who live here. First of all, us. Who's more interesting than us?

I know. They totally want in our FaceTime. It's like they're so...

If I was a Chinese spy, I would say I want them first.

Yeah, I'd say these girls are really high threat, and we need to be listening to everything. We are high threat.

We're extremely influential.

Yeah. Well, they can hear your end of the call, not mine.

So true. How do you feel, actually? I feel like you haven't been annoying about this at all. As somebody who You guys resisted TikTok for these reasons. There have been from day one, weird concerns about China at first. It was a conspiracy theory, now it's at the Supreme Court. And you have stuck to your guns, and we all made fun of you, and it has made your life difficult, and honestly, difficult for the people around you, too, download and sending. And not only, do you feel vindicated? You haven't been annoying about it at all.

No, I don't feel like I was right or anything, because it's not like this was a working theory that I had. I was reading the same stuff as you guys. I just took it more seriously. And then there were also, aside from the spying It definitely... The mental health, I just realized how much time I would be spending on my phone if I had TikTok. Not that I don't spend a lot of time on my phone, but it's not a number I want to add to. And I'm just really hopeful. I hope that people come to reels, because then reels will get even better. And more brands on Instagram whenever they're like, Do you have TikTok? I'm like, Oh, no. Okay, down the toilet.

It's so true. But by the way, I think what you said is super... We can all talk about China. What the fuck do we know? I actually think the mental health implications for an app that is so targeted towards young people. That's the benefit of it getting banned. Obviously, the national security, which is a little high level for me. I'm not going to pretend to understand it, but if I had a teenager right now, I would be thrilled.

Right. That's a bonus. I think it will be a net good thing. And all social media is ripe with issues. But at least it feels like with most of the big platforms here, they at least pretend to care.

They're also embedded so much in culture that I don't think of Instagram as addictive. I think of it as work, and I I can put it down.

No, but if there was an issue with Instagram and teens, Mark Zuckerberg would at least pretend to do something about it, and certainly not try and make it worse and celebrate it. But he might put in something, and there might be laws in place. I know there's laws in Florida about you can't have social media before a certain age. So at least there are things you can do. And I just feel like TikTok has just gotten so out of control.

But that's also- It's too big to monitor, even.

Yeah, Yeah, and not that I'm so for monitoring or anything. That's why these issues are complicated. But I think the issue is that it is being monitored in a nefarious way. It's not just like they are tailoring people with the worst sorts of content to people and promoting that, as opposed to it actually just being free speech, do whatever you want, and the cream will rise. It's not the cream that's rising.

That's the issue. How do you feel about proceeding with the remaining ads? Are we We're going to dive into the past five stories ads?

So we have one more ad break?

Yeah, and I feel so off-filter.

Let's do the first ad break after story number two today, since everything has been bumped up a little bit.

I'm not going to do it after story number two because now you've just spoiled it for people. But you guys, just stay tuned.

You never know when they'll hit you. Well, now it is time for the fast five stories that you do need to know, if you are ready.

I am. It just feels so weird to be ready.

Our first story is a big story of the day and of the last few months. But a new update has emerged from Justin Baldony's lawsuit because Justin Baldony is claiming that Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift pressured him to accept Blake Lively's It Ends With Us rewrite in a new complaint. Justin Baldoni has filed a $400 million lawsuit against Blake and her husband and their publicist on Thursday, January 16th, less than a month after Blake filed a complaint alleging sexual harassment and a retaliatory smear campaign. Among... And so this is a 179-page complaint. There's a lot of discovery and things, and you can go read all of that. However, among the claims made in this complaint, he alleges that Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds pressured him into accepting one of Blake Lively's rewrites for the film. Christie Hall is credited as a screenwriter who adapted Colleen Hoover's blockbuster novel. So in the pre-production phase, Lively allegedly asked to take a pass on the film's rooftop scene, where her character, Lily, meets his character, Rael for the first time. Justin was, reluctant to let her rewrite this key scene, per the complaint, but agreed to take a look at what she put together.

Justin claims her version was, dramatically different from how it was originally written, and after his exceedingly mild resistance, Lively, went silent for multiple days, and later said an alleged text message that his reaction to her rewrite, didn't feel great for me, or to Reynolds and what Baldony characterizes as another mega celebrity friend. A text message included in the filing reveals that, quote, influential and wealthy celebrity friend is Taylor Swift. Justin claimed that he was, quote, summoned to an earlier meeting with Ryan at their New York City penthouse where the pop star, Taylor, arrived and began praising lively script, Baldony understood the subtext he needed to comply with Blake's direction for the script. Per the complaint, he felt he didn't need Ryan and her mega celebrity friend to pressure him, so he texted her that while her changes made the scene, quote, so much more fun and interesting, he would have felt that way without Ryan and Taylor. At adding a playful emoji. Blake allegedly responded by comparing herself to the Game of Thrones character, Kaleesi, and that Ryan and Taylor are her two dragons.

The sheer fact that this Real Housewives level of drama is in a lawsuit is so embarrassing to me, honestly. People are just gooped and gagged by this. The screenshots going around make Blake look out to be like such a loser and such a mean girl. I don't think that's really ever been up for debate. The crazy thing to me is he filed this 200-page lawsuit, $400 million, and not one of it disputes the original claims that he sexually harassed people on this set. They had to take a break and come up with deal terms. And what? So Blake Lively is a bitch? What does one have to do with the other? His entire lawsuit, yes, this makes her look really bad, which has been the theme the whole time. She's a mean girl. Her texts are so fucking cringe. My drag My Kaleesi.

I have to read this text.

Like cringe. Okay, but you know what else is cringe? Sexually harassing your female co-stars. I don't see what one has to do with the other.

Because it won't change how I feel about this situation, but you just get a glimpse into someone's personality, and it's a little painful. She said, If you ever get around to watching Game of Thrones, you'll appreciate that I'm Kaleesi, and like her, I happen to have a few dragons, for better or worse, but usually for better, because my dragons also protect those I fight for. So really, we all benefit from those gorgeous Stop.

No, I actually cringe. There's a chill down my spine.

Smiling emoji. You will, too. I can promise you.

Great. Let's say Justin Baldon is telling the truth. Everything in his 179-page lawsuit is completely factual. Okay. Blake Lively and her fancy husband and her fancy friend, Taylor Swift, wanted to take over the project. Not a crime, definitely a bad personality trait. But nowhere in there does he dispute any of the things that were alleged about him making her add more nude in these scenes, being weird about the intimacy coordinator, showing nude images to female co-stars. I really don't understand how this has went to do. This is, I think, another strategy in what was originally... And by the way, there is no disputing that he hired people to do astro-turfing. So all the things that were in Blake's original complaint, to me, have not been disputed at all. If anything, he's giving us evidence as to why he was mad at her and did that in the In the first place. She told on him to sag about his inappropriate behavior, and then she... Wait, oh my God. It's crazy how your brain just turns off. He's mad at her and did all that because, oh, yeah, he told on her to sag, and she was like a pain in the ass on set.

So I think here, and it's getting confusing, and I think that's the intended effect, but he is trying to also prove why he hired Crisis PR because all of the things that happened that he's not disputing, there was beef, and there were disagreements, and creative disagreements, and a million other things. And so he's showing why he went on the defensive, which then it looked like an offensive.

Right, but the crazy thing is, is to the public, no one was ever Team Blake. She never put together any strategy when the movie was coming out. It was all making her look bad. So he's like, I was on a defensive. From what? We never thought anything other than you were the good guy, and she was the bad guy.

Right. No, but now he's having to prove that there was an offensive that either hadn't launched yet or was in the midst of it before he came forward with his.

He sounds like a conspiracy theorist. He sounds a little crazy. Because all I've gotten from everything, his original complaint, and now this lawsuit, is that Blake was mean and her fancy friends who Jack made a Taylor Swift made me feminist feel bad. And by the way, I can completely see a world in which Blake Lively, who's the most beautiful woman in the world, married to one of the handsome, best friends of Taylor Swift. She's definitely a bitch. She's not even an amazing actress. I could see her coming on being like, I want to do X, Y, Z. It's like, Girl, just do your job. You're not even going to... I can see all that. None of that literally means anything to me. When there is proof and pretty much confirmation of that list of 30 things that he was acting inappropriately on set, harassing people sexually. Why is that equal to being mean? It's not. These are two separate claims.

Yeah, I don't think it's saying it's equal to being mean.

I think- No, but he's trying to sway public opinion. I was accused of sexual harassment. These people were mean to me.

Okay. No, but he's saying, Blake showed what happened before the AstroTurfing campaign, and now he's showing what happened before that led to the thing that led to the thing. I never wanted to know this much about two people about one movie. Stop making movies, everyone. If it's this hard to just agree on a rooftop scene, seriously, the book was written for you. Just write what's in the book. It's really not that hard. That's the other thing.

Taylor Swift definitely read this book on her own because we know she likes to read, and this is a very popular big book, especially for women. And I could see her really getting so excited that her friend was playing Lily and wanting to get involved. And I think it's a really unique strategy because Justin, I think, is motivated a lot by public opinion. Of course, he wants to win, but I think he cares a lot about what people think of him. And including Taylor Swift in your lawsuit, it's a risky move. She's universally beloved. I think people have made an exception for Blake. They're like, Yeah, she's Taylor's best friend. She sucks because everybody's now off of team Blake. But now it's like, Well, Taylor's a part of it. So where do you land? I think it's going to be really interesting to see if that hurts him or helps him.

Yeah. Also, I feel like we already forgot that her song was a part of the movie, and that was a really big hype for the movie.

My tears are caché. So she's not uninvolved in the movie. I forgot about that.

Yeah. So She probably had to like cozy up to Taylor because she's doing this favor, giving the song, and she's like a part of the excitement around the movie. And then also Justin posted pictures yesterday of him in the basement at the premiere with his family. Let me tell you how I do not care that you were at the basement in the premiere. Regardless of what happened, you and the lead actress don't get along. You don't like each other. She will walk the carpet and then you will walk the carpet. And sure, you can wait in the basement. You can wait in your car. I don't give a shit. I don't feel sorry for you that at your big fancy movie premiere, that you were in a basement that looks totally fine and lovely.

I have such a hot take on the basement because... And I know everybody's like, just Claudia, you're not going to be ever team Justin, and I'm not. But this is somebody who, in my opinion now, has been really accused with a lot of proof of sexually harassing female co-stars. None of the female co-stars wanted to be around him. They did not feel comfortable. So much so that at a work event, the premiere, you had to be sequestered like a prisoner in the basement. That's what they do with people who are dangerous. You are a threat. You're not being kept. They're being kept from you. Everybody was fine to walk together and be together upstairs. You were the outlier because you are a threat and you sexually harass these people. I felt like when he released those pictures, I was like, you're literally admitting that you had to be kept separate like a violent criminal.

Yeah, this didn't do for me. I don't feel sorry for you sitting in the basement of a movie theater with all this popcorn, and all your friends and family. It's just big He worked so hard.

People are seriously not okay. Just about so. He's not going to fuck you if you write a nice tweet about him. People are like, It's so upsetting. This was his big night. He worked so hard. Like, Girl.

It's literally not so upsetting. It's not upsetting at all. It ain't.

I'm sorry. It doesn't move the needle. At this point, I feel like people have chosen their sides. At first, people were really easily swayed. Like, Oh, one lawsuit, I'm here. One lawsuit, I'm there. Now, the dust has settled and people have decided what team they're on. I can safely say I've never really switched from disliking Justin I'll donate. And like, I don't think... No amount of pages in a lawsuit is going to change people's minds now. Yeah. Like, enough has been done.

They've reached that point. Now, also, I feel bad for the courts and the jury that will have to sift through all this and relitigate all of this.

What state? California. It was California. Sorry. Yes, it was because they filmed in California. And it's like, the people of California haven't been through enough, now they have to sit on a jury going through this mindless Real House Fives drama. Like the receipts, literally, it's like Monique and her Binder. It's so mind-numming.

Yeah. So they'll duke it out. And I guess we'll wait to see who the courts find. Because this is just us. And also everyone is selectively reading these documents.

It's so true.

I want to see how Blake Lively sends a text, and now I don't want to see.

No, by the way, I've seen enough. Please never give this woman my number. She's on Stredfall. She sounds absolutely Me and my Dragons. Like, yikes.

I'm Kaleesi.

It's butt clenching. It's so cringe.

Agreed. Are you ready for our next story?

I'm desperate to change the subject.

I agree. Lady Gaga, Jolly Roll, and Stevie Nicks will be playing Fireade Benefit concert for LA Wildfire Relief. So a big concert is coming together for LA Wildfire Relief, and the biggest names in music are coming together to raise funds for those affected by the devastating wildfires. Right now, the lineup includes Billy Eilish and Phineas, Earth, Wind, and Fire, Gracie Abrams, Green. Now I do remember. The name is a little...

Oh.

Is a little tasteless.

They should have went EWF.

They should have changed their name. Yeah. Gracie Abrams, Green Day, Gwen Stefani, Jelly Roll, Joni Mitchell, Katie Perry, Lady Gaga, Lil Baby, Pink, Red Hot Chili Steppers, Rod Stewart, Sting, Steven Still, John Mayer, Stevie Nicks, and Tate McRay. For the first time ever, Dave Matthews Band and John Mayer will take the stage together for a special performance.

That's so nice to see all these people.

Speaking of all the streamers we were talking about, this will be streamed live on all of the streamers. Oh, it will? They're coming together. Apple Music, Apple TV, Max, iHeartRadio, Paramount+, Netflix, Prime Video, Amazon Music, all of them.

Yeah, it's nice to see people from country music getting involved because they all did a benefit for North Carolina, and there was no pop people who were offering their time. It was Keith Urban, John Mayer, I mean, not John Mayer. Lou Holmes. Lou Holmes, Eric Church. So like, Jolly Roll showing up representing the community we love to see. This just reminded me of... Oh, I wanted to talk about Jolly Roll because I wanted to talk about... Actually, I have to thank your husband for this. When me, you, and our husbands went on a double date to Yard House, the greatest restaurant in all of America, He was driving, and he put on music, and he put on the F1 trillion album, Post Malone's Country. Yes, he loves it. I actually hadn't listened to the album in full. I knew Luke Holmes, I selectively chose the ones that were popular, like the Morgan Wallen collab and the Blake Sheldon collab. Then, of course, I had to listen to my boy, Luke. But I hadn't listened to the album in full. It was a 20-minute drive there and back. So we listened to most of the album.

I was like, damn, this is so good. I've been listening to it every single morning. It is so underrated by me, obviously, but the culture let me It was like, I rate it under. It wasn't shoved in my face. It should have been. Every collab is better than the next. The Luke Holmes one is so good. The Lainey Wilson one is so good. The Ernest one, that ain't the devil I know. It's so good. Honestly, the Jolly Roll one, and I have not been moved by Jolly Roll's music. I think a lot of people are immediately drawn to it. He definitely has a cult-like fandom, and it just passed over me. Let's hear it for the loser. It's so good. It's made a Jolly Roll fan out of me. This album, I can't believe I lived with it for months and did nothing about it. It's so good.

It's so funny because I have different favorites than you from the album, like wrong ones with Tim McGraw. Sing it for me. But them wrong ones keep looking at me.

Keep looking at me. So good.

He goes so hard. The Dolly Parton one I really like. Sweet. And then also on the album, Post has a song, Just Posty himself. He put himself out there because I do feel like sometimes he hides behind these collabs a little bit. What don't belong to me, what don't belong to me, what don't belong to me. Love. Also, if you like that Jolly Roll song, there's one other Jolly Roll song in Jolly Roll catalog that I like.

I know. We listen to it every time we're in your car.

Well, just because I play my like songs, and that was the first one when you were here. Yes. You ain't nothing but a liar.

There was also one song I did not like.

Yeah.

I can't remember it. Why focus on the negative? I just wanted to say I apologize to Malone and the entire Maloners. That was wrong of me to sit on it. It's actually amazing. It's one of the best country albums this year. He should be nominated for a Grammy of the Year album, Country Album of the Year. I'm down. It's really parj. Really parj. I'm sorry it took me so long to get here. I'm inappropriate.

Well, you're here. We're happy to have you. That's all that matters. And you're really not that late, considering.

So true. I've been later, down to Nabi. How late?

Anyways, this concert-athon sounds really nice and some great performers and really beautiful way to come together for the communauté.

I think you mean theQUnite.

Q-ract. That's all to say on that?

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Let's hear it for the losers.

Our next story. Apparently, Bachelor star Matt James has blindsided and humiliated his ex-girlfriend, Rachel Kerkenel, with the breakup post. I have. So as we announced yesterday, Matt James posted the world's weirdest breakup announcement out of nowhere when the day before, 12 hours prior, they were posting together.

Pizza in London.

Pizza in London, which could have been pizza in London last week. But still, you don't post something when you've broken up with someone.

Within the same 24 hours cycle as your breakup post.

And also, you don't post your breakup post less than 24 hours after you've broken up.

And also, you don't post your breakup post with a geo tag location, and you don't tag your ex in it, and you don't use a photo that's literally not representative of your relationship at all. Oh, and then have a really weird confusing caption about God. Not that there's anything confusing about God, but it was definitely a unique route to take strategically.

It was a unique route But typically, there's time in between when you actually break up.

I love what you're doing with the pen. So if you're broke up- You look like seriously a teacher. I love it.

No, and I'm on the board of the break up.

Well, there's a lot to follow here.

You break up, and then you hope that things are quiet and nobody realizes so that you could process a little bit. You wouldn't post new content with your ex because you guys are heartbroken and you're misleading people. And then you would post your breakup announcement, but there's too much crossover in the windows here, so it's hard to parse what happened. However, team I'm Kerkanal. A couple of things are coming out about how- You said Kirkanal or Kirkanal? I feel like I used to say Kirkanal, but then I remember every time I would hear her last name pronounced, it was not how I pronounced it.

Now I think I say Rachel Kerkanal.

I think that's how people say it. So I'm just trying something on.

I like that she doesn't correct anyone.

Yeah, I'm trying something on.

Do your worst.

I'm probably pronouncing it the way I normally wouldn't, and it's still wrong.

Yeah, that's so us, even when we dry.

So Sources are saying that she was blindsided and humiliated by this breakup post. She thinks it's just as weird as everyone else does. She didn't know he was going to do that and definitely wouldn't have approved of it if she did. And that's what her friends had leaked to the sun. I don't know how much I believe that, but she also liked a comment.

That's why the sun came up with these fake sources.

Right, because they were like, they could see Rachel's self because she liked a comment that basically said, this must be so blindsided.

Guys, she was so blindsided. And I think at first people took it as she was blindsided by the breakup. But if you really think about the context of their relationship, it would make more sense that actually she broke up with him because the way it was going for him, he didn't have to propose. Everything's good. I got my girl. We're making content. But a woman is more sensitive to the timelines, and And I think maybe she finally realized the lack of potential and the lack of a future to really ever get married. And she made the really tough decision to break up with him. And then he, in retaliation, decided to... Because even if you have a contentious breakup, as public figures, you align on how to announce just to minimize this. But he goes rogue and shares his unique I actually, that wasn't...

I don't think she broke up with him.

Oh, you think he broke up with her?

I think he broke up with her and then also posted about it prematurely without telling her. So she's heartbroken. And now everybody knows. Like, Brianna's Chicken Fries. There's a lot of Zack Brian. There's a not a Zack Ryan. Chicken fry, was blindsided by the announcement. Not necessarily the boy kept. They were having issues for a while. They broke up a month before. Blindsided by the fact that she wouldn't even have a few days to just process it before everybody knew the news. So I can see being blindsided, maybe not by a breakup, you're in the relationship, you know what's happening, but by the fact that someone would put it out there long before they needed to. No one was like, Hey, we haven't seen from Matt and Rachel in a while.

Yeah. I am choosing to think that she broke up with him. I don't know why he would have broken up with her. They were in a really happy, I think- That made him in the shade. That made him in the shade. And a man who's not being pressured after four years. And then I think... Because also the subtext of a lot of their videos whenever being asked, or even they went on podcast talking about it. It was always jokey. Like, oh, Rachel wants me to... Excuse me. So I could see her reaching her limit there and breaking up with him and in retaliation, him posting this thing, a vindictive thing to do. Because the Zack Bryant of it all, to break up with someone and then also take control of the public, that's so mean. We now know he was an emotionally abusive person. I don't think Matt James is like that. I think he was a selfish boyfriend, but I don't think he's an evil person. To do both, to break up with someone and then also take control of the public, that's a really mean thing to do. But I could see him being hurt and angry and wanting to retaliate and be like, Well, I'm going to post it on Instagram first.

Yeah. I also think sometimes relationships run their course and people can end things amicably and then also be broken up, but still communicating about how they want to share it with the world. I think that's what happened with Paige and Craig. I think he knew she was going to do a podcast about it and share. He knew that it would be however many days or weeks after they broke up and that you get on on the same page because that is the thing that you have to factor into a public relationship. So when someone doesn't do that, even if you're not boyfriend and girlfriend anymore, that was still your best friend at one point. Treat them with a little respect.

I completely agree. So I took her liking that comment as her being blindsided simply by the announcement, not by the breakup. And let me tell you, Homegirl is active on social media. She like, Do one of my TikToks this morning. Oh, and not to make everything about me, but me and Ben, Ben thought it was so weird, too. And Ben is friends with Matt. So we were like, Matt unfollowed both me and Ben. We don't know when, but I was like, maybe he's obviously going through something because he's obviously being crazy. He unfollowed Ben and I. I don't know if it was this week, but I haven't checked ever. Definitely not this week. So it could have been a year ago, and I wouldn't know. But excuse me, Rude? Now you're mad. But maybe because I know Rachel, I think, is an O. G. Toaster. Maybe Ben and I remind him of Rachel. Not me, literally making this breakup about me.

I think he unvalid you a while ago, and it's unrelated to this breakup.

Yeah, I think so, too. But I wanted to center myself and just let everyone know he unvalled me. Who unfollows people these days?

He's in a bad place.

Clearly struggling.

No, you only unfollow someone when they offend you. Yeah, when you really just like them. You don't just like them. You don't casually unfollow someone. That's why even when I'm like, this person no longer serves me, I follow them at a different time, and then we just grew in different directions. I have such a hard time unfollowing because it's such a fuck you.

It is, and it's really unnecessary.

I don't fuck you. I just don't fuck with you.

Yeah, so I would love to what I did to Matt James. But that's actually something- You hurt him. That's something funny with the new TikTok ban is in the last couple of days, I have unfollowed people. I'm not going to spend my last days engaging with people I don't fuck with. Now, it's like, who cares? But in general, I agree with your unfollowing philosophy. But on TikTok, right now, it's like the Wild West.

Everybody's just like- You got to live like you're dying.

Exactly. I've actually started to block people who I don't know at all, but whose faces bother me.

Oh, I love that. We should be doing that. That's something that's a lesson we should apply.

It's It's so extreme to block someone, but it's not... I'm not blocking because I hate you. I just like, your face and your content are terrible, and I don't want to see it anymore.

No, and because TikTok shoves people down your throat who you have said, I don't like this person, but they're like, No, they're bad for you. Watch more. You have to go out of your way to block them.

They're bad for you. Watch more. That is the TikTok philosophy.

That's what you have to block on TikTok. On reels, they're like, Oh, you didn't watch enough of that. Let's give you something else.

Yes, they're really catering to your likes, not your dislikes.

Yeah, they're catering to your likes. Do you want to amend what you said about Matt James being hacked?

Oh, yeah, I was wrong.

Okay, cool. Oh, yeah. No longer feeling that way.

I still feel like it was the weirdest thing on the planet, but after the hours went by where no correction was made, I was like, Oh, no, this is real. So then I had to start analyzing the situation with no longer with that disbelief.

Yeah. I also for a few hours yesterday thought that maybe it was a prank. Some people were like, Maybe he lost fantasy football, and this was the dare that you have to post this breakup announcement. That's why nobody was I'm not saying anything about it because Rachel has to just let him do it for 24 hours or something. But now I no longer think that because she's liking these comments.

That just proves how strange the announcement was because when couples announced that they get...

Nobody thought Jessica Alba was pranking us. I'm not worse on a dare.

The theories that came out of this are like, no, they're actually announcing an engagement. This is a clue. The theories on TikTok, because if it was a normal announcement, people would have just started processing it. But the fact that there was such disbelief, myself included, and it caused people to actually conspiracy theorize, just proves how weird it was.

No, it was an enigma wrapped in a riddle and prayer.

But it ended up being true. That's the weirdest. To me, that's what I'm shocked at. It was real.

I'm excited to hear from Rachel. Oh, big time. Take But I got here and I'm...

The toast welcomes you with open arms, open invitation. Maybe you can tell me why Matt unfollowed us.

Our next story, a little Hollywood news. Cameron Diaz has a new movie coming out.

I'm so glad you brought up Cameron Diaz because I walked past a billboard for her movie.

It was getting too long till we last brought her out.

Not only that, she doesn't fart without the toast making it headline news. We are obsessed with her. Every time she comes out of environment to do a movie, it's for a purpose. It's like she did it work, and then she made the other woman, and we understood why she took that month.

Of course, that's a story that needs to be told.

The trailer for this movie looks so unbelievably stupid. I have to imagine she's getting paid $20 million because she has a perfect record when it comes to films. What the hell is this dumb action movie on Netflix with who? Jamie Fox, right?

She loves working with Jamie Fox.

She does.

They've been in two movies prior together. So This is what she said about her return to Hollywood, and if she's going to do it. Is this it for her? She said, I don't know how I view it. It's hard to say. If I say it, then it becomes this thing. I deserve the right to say no to doing a movie ever again, and I deserve the right to say yes if I decide to. I'm I'm not defining anything. I'm just open to whatever makes sense for me and my family at any given moment.

Such a healthy outlook. She's in such a privileged position. She doesn't have to work. She has that Shrek money, 100 million on the bank. She gets to work on her passion projects for Avaline Wine. I love when she does decide to step out and do work again. I just really don't understand this one.

Yeah, well, I think it's Netflix money, but also she said about Jamie Fox. I thought that if I was ever going to come back and do a movie, the only person I'd come back and do it with would be this guy. Seriously, I had other opportunities along the way, and I was always saying, no, I'm not doing it. I've told you. What? Jamie asked Jamie? Oh, I can do a movie with Jamie. And also her last movie that she did was Annie with Jamie Fox.

No, Annie was after the other No way.

Yes, Annie was 2014. I'll never forget where I was.

Nobody was more impacted by the Jamie Fox Annie reboot, Quivencene Wallace, than Jackie Osheray.

It's so fucking good. That is how you take a classic tale in modern It's true. People really slept on it because they're like, oh, my gosh, what are they doing?

Another Annie.

But you had to... And also not just another Annie. You had to be there. Not just another Annie, but a modern Annie, because typically, we're telling the story of orphan Annie, Great Depression, FDR. True. But this was no Mr. Stax, not Mr. Warbox. It was modern Manhattan.

She's in a helicopter.

Annie's in a helicopter, not a horse in a carriage.

That's so true.

They did something with it. Ms. Hanigan, she's an influencer. Right.

She has a YouTube channel.

So it was really, really good, considering.

Okay, that's actually a really interesting spin on it. I only saw it once, and I remember being like, Oh, it's good. And now I just talk about it because we always talk about it. But I actually don't know.

And maybe I'm due for a rewatch. Because I told you that it's good. You can believe that it is. Agreed. And Sia did the music. There's original new songs. That are amazing. That's Soleil. Yeah. And they don't get their shine. She did a take on, You're never fully dressed without a smile. Like, Pussy pop an anthem.

And so the fact that It, Cameron Diaz loves Jamie Fox so much makes this whole thing better. But let me just say, the movie looks really stupid, and I feel annoyed that Cameron Diaz is this perfect track record and really a flawless resume. Tell me one bad movie she's made.

Well, I'm going to go to her rolodex. The thing about Cameron Diaz, it's not every single movie, it was a perfect script, like the other woman.

No, she makes it.

It's what she brings to the movie. It's true. I don't even know if I would have loved Bad Teacher as much with a different bad teacher.

Right, right, right. That's a good... It's a hot take. So I do think that- But like something about Mary, the sweetest thing, everything.

But what happens in Vegas could have just been another obnoxious, stupid movie. So true. But she makes it special. So I actually think this movie would be a cute action movie because she is enjoyable to watch and just has effervescence and verve up on the screen.

The movie is what Cameron makes it.

It's really, really true. Let's make it rock. There's no real flops because she doesn't flop.

Okay, that's a really good point. I like that.

Bad Teacher, too. Excuse me.

I heard they're turning it into a series or something without her.

Excusez-moi. Oh, I'm sorry. She made a bad movie once. What? Sex tape with Jason Siegel.

Okay. While I agree- She made a bad movie. The culture actually loves that movie.

The movie was bad, and they're two of my favorite actors.

I know.

And they were in Bad Teacher together. And why didn't they make it a sequel to Bad Teacher where they grow up and then they have a sex tape leak into the cloud? They made a bad movie.

But then have you seen Jason Siegel on The Today Show? His last appearance, which was like, he knew the last time he was going to see Hoda. He said something like, literally so nice. Everybody was saying nice things to Hoda, but his was so genuine. He got a little teary-eyed and just was talking about how she's just such a wonderful person. I feel like it was a real insight into the mench that he is. Please, if you have a story about Jason Siegel, I don't want to hear it. I'm choosing to believe that he's a mench. Actually, it was brought a tear in my eye. It was just a random moment, I feel like it was really indicative of the type of person he is. It was very genuine and very sweet.

Are you going to tell us?

What do you mean? What did he said? I don't know. It was like something whatever. The way he said it was like so... Everybody said, You have been amazing. This building is not the same without you, and it's all really nice.

But He has this courteousness, courtesy, excuse me, about him.

It was so raw, it was so real. Everybody was just saying these rehearsed things that they felt like they had to say to Hoda.

His was real. That's really beautiful. I have to go listen, but I also just saw a headline, Cameron Diaz finally comes out of retirement, 10 years after sex tape sent her packing.

Oh, okay.

I wonder if that's what it was.

Definitely not. It wasn't that bad.

No, Claudia, it's really, really bad.

No, but it did well.

Yeah.

It wasn't an embarrassing public flop.

That's true. Okay. Well, anyway, she's back for now. Might come back again, might not. Tb TV, Cameron does what Cameron wants. I love that. And on a quiet night, I might watch this movie. That sounds like a light fare I would like.

On a desperate night, for sure.

You know what? I'm just going to add that to the content list because otherwise, I will completely forget about it. Yeah. You know? For sure.

Get your book. Totally. Get your book, girl.

In one ear, out the other.

Get that pen. You know what they say about the pen? Mightier than the sword. Whoever wrote that, never heard of Hamas. You know? Right. Good luck using your pen.

I know. Yikes.

Was that the fifth story or the fourth?

It was the fourth.

Well, we're moving slow today.

We are. Our fifth story should be a quickie, though, because Brody Jenner says that he got a sincere apology from Caitlin over feeling abandoned. During Kardashian's Fame.

Yeah, this is a really dark part when you think of Caitlin. There's so much from the Caitlin lore, but we really think of it through the context, through the lens of the Kardashian. But her prior life with all those kids was actually extremely dark.

Yeah, there's just a lot. She's lived a lot of lives, and so not every single chapter was probably her proudest. But Brody is actually on the show Special Forces: World's Toughest Test. Love that. And on Wednesday's episode, he revealed that he received a real sincere apology from his parent just recently. He said, It was the first time in my life that I've ever gotten an apology. I'm sorry for not being there. He told viewers that Caitlin expressed remorse honestly, and that meant a lot to him. He went on to explain why he felt abandoned by Caitlin Kaitlyn, whom he referred to with he/him pronouns as Caitlin has publicly given her blessing for her kids to do so in the past.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, because I think also when they talk about the past... Caitlin is very lax. Yeah, Kaitlyn is very lax. When they talk about the past, I think sometimes they'll refer to as the old name, which I'm not going to do because I...

One time, we said it a Page 6 article that had Elliot Page's original name, and we got accused of being transphobic. We literally referenced an article, and we put the link to the article in our description, which we do for every article that we reference, and we were accused of dead naming and being transphobic. Like, excuse me? Not even that, Claudia.

The story was that Elliot Page had transitioned to Elliot Page. So if I never said the person's previous name, you would have no idea who I'm talking about.

No, it was so... Seriously, that was one of the craziest backlashes we ever got. Like, we all... Jackie, you didn't even say it. They didn't like that we referenced it in the description.

Yeah, I said blank I think page has become Elliot Page. We read the page 6 headline.

It was page 6.

Oh, yeah, of course. It was their headline. But if we say we never even said who became Elliot Page, you would say, who is Elliot Page?

All that to say, Caitlin is very understanding and very Blacks.

Yes. Brody said, I'd randomly see him, him at the time, here and there. But my mom, Linda, would tell me that I would write on cards. Why doesn't my dad call me on my birthday? He said, I had an incredible mother. Caitlin wasn't around that Which they split, and then he met a woman, Kris Jenner. She had kids as well. The woman that he met, they had kids together, referencing Kendall and Kylie. Oh, yeah. Brody recalled Caitlin going through her own struggles, transitioning, which was documented on Keeping Up at the time. He said it was all that was put on TV, and there were these moments that we would have that was all films, and it felt very invasive and not very genuine.

I do want to say that totally irrelevant, but this reminds me of that time period where actually, when the Kardashian's E-show was really popping off, and Brody and his brother Brandon, before Caitlin transitioned, they would go on vacations together. Remember that episode where Brody had a half-chub? Half-chub, yeah. I like that, you know what I was talking about. That was a golden age of television. We didn't appreciate it at the time, but now the Hollywood significance of the Jenners, both Brody and Kendall, and then the Kardashian's, it runs so deep. That was so crazy. That was such good TV.

Yeah. No, now it's just a fact of life.

Yeah.

But it is so crazy.

I loved that. We didn't know at the time how dark the past was between Caitlin and the original, the OG kids. Let's talk about Casey Jenner. Before Linda, before Caitlin married and had Brody and Brandon Jenner, excuse me, she had a wife before that, because it's all in Caitlin's, that Diane Sawyer thing. Yeah. And I was like, wait, who's Casey Jenner. There is an older daughter. I don't know where she is, but hopefully, they've also made amends.

Also, Brody is a parent now. I don't know if you follow along with him, but he has a daughter, and he's doing Special Forces. That's nice. That is nice. I'm happy for the family.

Those are the fast five stories. And before we wrap up for the week, before the long weekend, Jackie and I are going to do Queety and Weenie of the Week. One of our favorite things to do here every Friday, a great way to wrap up the week, is to look back and reflect and give out two Who awards Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. They're pretty self-explanatory. Who is somebody who acted like a queenie this week? And who is somebody that acted like a weanie this week? This is a reminder to seven-day title. It's not that serious. It's supposed to be fun. Yes.

So I'll go first. My queenie of the Week goes to Spencer and Heidi Pratt.

My queenie was Spencer, specifically.

Well, Heidi, for hitting number one on the billboard dance charts, the two of them, they continue to emerge every few years, and people are reminded of how just funny and great they are. That's because they really have I remember when Spencer came on our show when we were the breath, and I seriously had tears in my eyes from laughing so hard at everything he was saying. I never laughed that hard any time, ever. And they're always working hard, and the cream rises, and I just feel like every few years, everyone has this renaissance with them, and we shouldn't forget how funny and fantastic they are.

And they also went through it. So I feel like every time they reemerge, they get even more vindicated from their Hills villain, because most people who love Spencer now weren't even socially conscious with the Hills, but they were the most hated couple in America. They were making a lot of money, and they were really famous, but that was hard. So I feel like they constantly get revindicated, especially back to the beach. I feel like everybody was just rewatching the Hills, the Hills of the City, and all those shows. And you were rewatching it now as adults. It's like, they literally did nothing wrong. And by the way, the proof is in the pudding. They are still married.

Right. And a lot of the issues was that Heidi was choosing Spencer over her friends and stuff. But it's like, they're still married. They're that in love. They're each other's person. So the proof is in the pudding. Before that, when Spencer Snapchat got really popular. Taylor Swift. He goes through these waves of people remembering. And so they're obviously going through a very hard time right now, but they are just so entertaining and in love. And I'm just happy for the success that they're having amidst tragedy.

Yeah, I just I wanted to make him my queen of the week for all those reasons that you stated, but also because the way he's chosen to build back his life while never taking... I know it's funny because he's the one posting all this content, but it's all about Heidi. He is propping up the woman in his life, and he's just doing what a man should do to make money, build a life. And I'm sure on top of that, the emotional damage of losing her, I can't even imagine. So they're doing all of that while dealing with that hard stuff. And I just love the approach he's taken while centering his wife. My wife is a star. My wife is hot. My wife is everything. He hasn't been saying me and Heidi, it's just Heidi's song, Heidi's this, Heidi's music video. I just love it.

Yeah, agreed.

What are you writing down?

Your queenie, because remember, I'm starting to write all of them.

Let the record books Reflect.

Let the record reflect. Put it in the toast museum.

Oh, My Weanie. Oh, also, I wanted to give an honor roll mention for Queenie of the Week to Tart. They really gave me so much enjoyment this week. I was watching. I spent so much time making content, reading content I'm watching content about the Tart trip. It was fucking funny, and I enjoyed every minute of it. So honorable mention. But speaking of TikTok, my weaning of the Week is actually all the people who are just mindlessly signing up for Red Note. One, because that's really not the way social your media apps take off. You can't force it. So everybody's like, Red Notes, the new TikTok. It's not. And the next TikTok, if there is one, it will happen very organically. So you can't plan for these things.

It reminds me of threads. And also what was that other one, Lemon?

Lemon 8.

Lemonada?

Lemon 8. The last time TikTok got banned, well, not banned, but it was like 30 days. Everybody signed up for Lemon 8. They're like, It's the next big thing. And did it take off? No, you can't predict what the next big thing is going to And you're not understanding the threat. The Supreme Court doesn't just ban apps for a reason. So it's like, yeah, we can think it's stupid or annoying or wrong, but there's valid reasons. So just to march into the Chinese army, like red note, sign me up terms and conditions. Here's my data. With almost no care in the world, it's weaning. Yeah. I will not be signing up for red note. Don't look for me there.

Yeah. Even threads that got millions of users in one day, the biggest app growth of all time in 24 hours. It's zilch, zero zilch.

You can't predict these things. That's why TikTok was such an anomaly. It was musically and all these kids. And the next thing you know, it's a $400 billion app. You can't predict it. So good luck with what's going to happen to your phone if you have read note, but it It's not going to be me.

My wee is Matt James for the announcement, the confusion, not consulting with his woman. And now actually makes you appreciate those joint statements that are like, We have decided to go our separate ways, because that just shows respect for your And this shows going rogue and disrespect. So that's my weaning.

And also unfollowing two fabulous creators is also weaning-like behavior.

Two fabulous creators. He's obviously not interested in Weenie-like content and just weaning-like content.

Well, that's what will serve him.

I wonder if she still follows him.

Oh, that's a good call. Check.

Because that's grounds for unfollowing.

I made sure she still followed me. I'm like, maybe they both hate me.

She still follows you. Let's see, Matt.

Yet. Don't worry, she still follows because she's a queen.

She still follows Matt.

Well, that'll be a big thing when she unfollows him, and she didn't ask for this drama, so she's not prepared.

Yeah, she's not prepared. So just take it E2C, Rach. Enjoy the long weekend. Yeah.

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